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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>William Ramsey investigates on today's show of a very special guest.

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<v Speaker 1>This will be a third episode in a three part

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<v Speaker 1>series we have been doing, and it started off with

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<v Speaker 1>the si opt to Mind War book, the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>famous book. It was written by Paul Vallli and Michael Lokino,

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<v Speaker 1>and then his follow up to that book, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like a four arder page book. We covered that, but

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<v Speaker 1>this will be part three. This will be our seventh

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<v Speaker 1>episode in total, so you can go back and see

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other subjects we've covered, such as Curtis Jarvin,

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<v Speaker 1>Fort Bragg, Satanic elite pedal rings which are still around,

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<v Speaker 1>and then just generally the sixth g Agenda. It's Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>of the six g Agenda podcast, so it all goes together.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just six G which is right on the horizon.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's even closer than the horizon at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>but really is that agenda of like almost sentient pervasive

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<v Speaker 1>surveillance pallateer style. But it's something everybody should be concerned

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<v Speaker 1>about a whereabout and afraid of really, because it's getting

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<v Speaker 1>very strange and there's a lot of like the capacity

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<v Speaker 1>of the government to really violate constitutional principles of being

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<v Speaker 1>free of search and seizure and things like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot going on. There's the three books for

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<v Speaker 1>if you didn't hear here our earlier shows, you should

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<v Speaker 1>probably go back in and listen to those, because what

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<v Speaker 1>Makino did is he like, after he had this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of smaller document that was about ten fifteen pages, he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote three books on the subject and they're all on

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a different topic. But Andrew can talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about that. So Andrew, welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me on again. William, Yeah, I super excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, as far as the book trilogy goes, they kind

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<v Speaker 3>of work off of each.

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<v Speaker 2>Other in different aspects.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them talks about the idea of manipulating the

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<v Speaker 3>mind psyops mind war through and he mentioned the electromagnetic

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<v Speaker 3>aspect to the brain that you can kind of manipulate mechanically,

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<v Speaker 3>and so that leads into mind Star, which is where

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<v Speaker 3>he goes in mind where I explain the mechanical, materialistic,

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<v Speaker 3>physical side of that electromagnetic part of your brain. But

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<v Speaker 3>there is a spiritual element to that, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, god within man, you know, plasma technology

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<v Speaker 3>of course within like the Theosophical Society, which I think

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<v Speaker 3>is the same as of course the orbs.

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<v Speaker 2>We see that, you know, I've been kind of getting into.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that they're really just it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>in the old days whenever they knew that the sun

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<v Speaker 3>was going to hit have an eclipse and they had

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<v Speaker 3>people sacrifice people and or else the sun wouldn't go away.

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<v Speaker 2>They're doing the same thing with orbs now.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that they understand how to do plasma technology

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<v Speaker 3>and make them appear, and this goes along with this

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<v Speaker 3>UFO idea. So that's part of the sy op to

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<v Speaker 3>mind war aspect. I think that we see it every day,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's good to read this to get some context

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<v Speaker 3>for what we see pervading our life every day.

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks for having me, and I'm super excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, thanks for coming back. Those are those three books,

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<v Speaker 1>So you say, the second one in the series is

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<v Speaker 1>really a Kino kind of promoting his Luciferian satanic philosophy.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yes, and then yeah, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>The third one is kind of like the remote viewing

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<v Speaker 1>type stuff or what is it?

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<v Speaker 3>So this one here is the one we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 3>today find and this one is really the third book,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think it's best to read this one next

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<v Speaker 3>when you're speaking about the police state and you're speaking

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<v Speaker 3>about syops and mind war. You know, the second one

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<v Speaker 3>is more of an initiatory book into the Setian philosophy.

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<v Speaker 3>This one is getting into now that they've explained what

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<v Speaker 3>mind war and what it concentrates on. Fine far is

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<v Speaker 3>about changing the future from a reactive to active society

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<v Speaker 3>and what it is is. I mean, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>go through it, but every chapter, you know, human law,

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<v Speaker 3>divine law, natural law. It talks about water, oceans, refugees, populations, children,

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<v Speaker 3>so everything has a comment where essentially he kind of

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<v Speaker 3>gives a you know, we can manipulate people off of

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<v Speaker 3>each one of these things. So he gives a little aspect,

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<v Speaker 3>a little footnote to each thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I almost think they're using it like a blueprint as

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<v Speaker 3>we go through it. You know, towards the end we

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<v Speaker 3>have the chapter called war is Peace sounds a lot

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<v Speaker 3>to me like p through strength, right, So it gets

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<v Speaker 3>interesting as we go through it.

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<v Speaker 1>So he believed he's kind of continuing on that theme

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<v Speaker 1>or agenda of like just total manipulation from all for good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's for good though, because we're gonna build

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<v Speaker 3>a utopia out of doing this with people.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's of course always what they look at it

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<v Speaker 3>as is we you know, they're redeeming quality. Is this

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<v Speaker 3>is all for the better of humanity, and it's all

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<v Speaker 3>to create you know, god, men on earth, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's the same old story, shall be as gods

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<v Speaker 1>and everything we're doing is actually for the benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>man or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And like Alice Bailey says, you know, many are called,

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<v Speaker 3>few are chosen, and it's okay, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 3>may say it's unfair that a lot of people will die,

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<v Speaker 3>but I have to remind you that this is just

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<v Speaker 3>one of many of the soul's existences, and so this

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<v Speaker 3>physical destruction of the body is like not the worst

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<v Speaker 3>that can happen to man. So they're justifying the idea

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<v Speaker 3>of the calling, and so remember that aspect because that's important, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, So where do you want to get started.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see, Well, there's this preface where he kind of

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<v Speaker 3>just gets into like mind war. He just talks you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't really find this book online. That's the crazy part.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to buy all three because only two out

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<v Speaker 3>of three of them were online.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So Fine Far.

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<v Speaker 3>Takes the three the other two things and just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of mixes it together with the societal aspect of how

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<v Speaker 3>we can mess. He calls it the fourth dimensional dynamic

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<v Speaker 3>called fine Far, which is the subject of this book.

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<v Speaker 3>Fine Far is not a static picture, but it's one

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<v Speaker 3>in motion. It's a projection which is in constant harmonization

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<v Speaker 3>with the mind war campaign. Right, So it's it's every

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<v Speaker 3>aspect of life is just fair game for us to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, essentially use for a mind war campaign is

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<v Speaker 3>all he's saying here. So he gets into this status

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<v Speaker 3>quo and chaos. He calls it frozen in the headlights.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, right out of the starting gate, conventional approaches

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<v Speaker 3>to political problems solving are doomed to confuse and frustration,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's no framework for solution and phased implementation. So

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<v Speaker 3>he's trying to say here that, you know, essentially that's

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<v Speaker 3>what this book is going to offer. So he just

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<v Speaker 3>talks about rather the subject problem is treated as an amorphous,

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<v Speaker 3>discrete incident of state or state of affairs, and so

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<v Speaker 3>proposed solutions are designed and considered for immediate appeasement and

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<v Speaker 3>gratification for interested parties. So he's saying that the symptoms,

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<v Speaker 3>not the causes, are treated and the can and the

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<v Speaker 3>can is kicked down the road. So just like our

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<v Speaker 3>medical industry, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, When was this? When was his what was this

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<v Speaker 1>book published?

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<v Speaker 3>This book was came out? When did this come out?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say twenty seventeen, right before he died?

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha?

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the last one that came out.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha.

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<v Speaker 3>So he gets into three headlights. There's three primary reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>So the headlights are an analogy for I guess the

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<v Speaker 3>things that you know, the symptoms or whatever. So he

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<v Speaker 3>talks about nations, he talks about how there's no way out.

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<v Speaker 3>There's one thousand pound canaries. The no way out aspect

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<v Speaker 3>is that there's no practical solution. So for instance, like

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<v Speaker 3>global warming may in truth be caused by conditions completely

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<v Speaker 3>beyond human control and political and capability, instability and agitation

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<v Speaker 3>is actually ultimately emotionally denial, denial in apocalyptic pant so

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of this is written like he's just a

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<v Speaker 3>crazy person. So whenever you read some of this, you're like, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>this is really just it makes not much sense. But

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<v Speaker 3>he speaks like he's encrypting some kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>deep knowledge into all of his little words. So as

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<v Speaker 3>I read this, I almost you know, I'm like, which

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<v Speaker 3>parts are more important? Because he has aging here, and

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<v Speaker 3>he says there are a lot. There are relative few

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<v Speaker 3>cultures that are advanced enough to respect, love, and care

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<v Speaker 3>for their elders anymore. Their fate is a lonely and

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<v Speaker 3>neglected and miserable one. And so issue here is humanity's

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<v Speaker 3>regard for its own creation and lineage, which must be

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<v Speaker 3>relearned as much from the great civilizations of antiquity as

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<v Speaker 3>restored in a future utopia.

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<v Speaker 2>You see.

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<v Speaker 3>So each of these are just what we need to

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<v Speaker 2>And so he sounds kind of I mean, some of

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds good, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It always does. It's the old temptations and stuffio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we'll skip past kind of all this. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to get to some of the meat of the matter.

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<v Speaker 3>But as I said, he just writes kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>a crazy person a little bit internally. The difficult the

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<v Speaker 3>difficulty with the concept of eschatology. He starts talking about

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<v Speaker 3>eschatology here is that it is necessarily raises the question

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<v Speaker 3>of priority of God exists prior to creation? How could

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<v Speaker 3>he distinguish himself or conceived creation? Is it possible for

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<v Speaker 3>there to be a reason for creation and then necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>requiring for some external reference her alternative, in which case

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<v Speaker 3>no one creation cannot be entire creation. And so he

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<v Speaker 3>just talked about a scatology and how we could use

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<v Speaker 3>this for in the eternal law, for manipulating people into

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<v Speaker 3>the preservation of order.

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<v Speaker 2>He calls it, gotcha, who's do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Who the girl is? Who's the intro? Who Janet Forbes is?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that his first wife?

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<v Speaker 2>Did he have more than one? Did he have more

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<v Speaker 2>than one? No, Lilith was like his main kind of

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>He dedicated this to a woman named Janet Forbes, who's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a picture of her. I don't know who she is.

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<v Speaker 2>Should look into that. I'm curious about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, let me look in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>He talks about the Great Gatsby in the beginning too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of weird. I don't know, what do you

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<v Speaker 3>know any kind of weird, like why he would include

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<v Speaker 3>that in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not too fir. I mean I've read it in school.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, she looks like Janet f Akino is in

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<v Speaker 3>here too, That's who it's dedicated to, So you might

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<v Speaker 3>be right.

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<v Speaker 2>It might have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Janet Forbes's Janet became Janet Aquino.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, dude, she looks a lot man, she

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<v Speaker 2>looks similar to what.

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<v Speaker 1>If she's part of the Forbes family?

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<v Speaker 2>That would be cool, I was wondering. Yeah, she would.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, I've been researching some stuff about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Kenneth Anger was a part of this company. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's kind of crazy because like the booker that's

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<v Speaker 2>So I've been kind of getting into that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of weird satanic connections with a lot

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's worse than you might think because Disinformation was started

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<v Speaker 1>He started it. Yeah, he started there's a book called

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<v Speaker 1>this Info. He sat down that Metzker. Guys. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>to Kurt Metzker. It's a different medskirt. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>massive big wigs in the occult world, like Robert Anton

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<v Speaker 1>inspiration for that, the Illuminatous trilogy. And also Metzker interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>And Kenneth angers around and that's the guy who books

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<v Speaker 3>Like, so when you go from like a keynot to

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<v Speaker 3>And here he says, if you control time, you control

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<v Speaker 3>the gods. I think that's interesting. He talks about time

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<v Speaker 3>the of an ou god slash the gods. So in short,

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<v Speaker 2>So he speaks in weird codes.

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<v Speaker 3>Here as you read it, but essentially he's talking about

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<v Speaker 3>little G gods. So a mind warrior is a person

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<v Speaker 3>is what he's trying to say. So point being, when

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<v Speaker 3>which is what you find on Saturn, which is the

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<v Speaker 3>god of time, right, but around it or chain links.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's essentially in chaining Saturn, right, so in chaining time.

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<v Speaker 3>So again you know when you look at like the

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<v Speaker 3>House Correspondence shooting, he's on a carpet. It's literally the

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<v Speaker 3>black cubes, just like the Black Cube of Saturn, which

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<v Speaker 3>is about time, and he worked at JPL, which connects

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<v Speaker 3>to this time, you know, traveling through time like Trump

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<v Speaker 3>apparently did, right, And I just did this whole episode

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<v Speaker 3>on you know, this Trump time travel theory because there

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<v Speaker 3>is so much anomalies that they created to make it

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<v Speaker 3>look like he traveled through time. But in reality, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean you can you can change metadata on a tweet

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<v Speaker 3>and make it look like it was tweeted in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three, you know, like that Kechius Maximus account right right, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean Elon Musk literally had that as his

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<v Speaker 3>even original, you know what I mean, Like it makes

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<v Speaker 3>sense that that would be you know changed instead. Just

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<v Speaker 3>to add to this, Trump's a time traveler kind of theory, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and if he controls time, he's God, right, so you

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<v Speaker 3>know it adds to that as well. So thought Crimes

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<v Speaker 3>talked about right here, you know, So as it gets

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<v Speaker 3>He talks about let me not because he has a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of fluff. So a person's denying, for instance, women's

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<v Speaker 3>themselves pro life, while to the threatened women, they're anti choice.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course, nations as a whole prescribe certain terms

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<v Speaker 2>Proscribing others.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether you are a freedom fighter or a terrorist is

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<v Speaker 3>a decision reserved to your friendly neighborhood thought. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>saying like the thought police are going to decide whether

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<v Speaker 3>you're a good person or bad person. At the end

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<v Speaker 3>of World War Two, the Allies felt sympathetic to European

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<v Speaker 3>Jews suffering from suffering during the war, so the United

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<v Speaker 3>States decided to give them a new sovereign nation of

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<v Speaker 3>their own. Despite the fact that it was in Europe

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<v Speaker 3>that the Jews had suffered. There was no question of

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<v Speaker 3>any European nation, even the vanquished Germany and Italy, giving

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<v Speaker 3>up any of their own territory for this magnanimous purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of a funny thing that he added in there. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what this has to do with

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<v Speaker 2>thought crime.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's ironically speaking about the Palestine and Gaza's

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<v Speaker 3>the first place that they kind of enacted Pallenteer, which

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<v Speaker 3>would be the thought police later, right, So that's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of ironic to me though, interesting and the thought police thing,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a huge one with Palenteer and with this whole

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<v Speaker 2>But they were talking about how.

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<v Speaker 3>Essentially thought police and how you know, you may act

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<v Speaker 3>mind and know that you're not actually going along with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's something that's kind of coming.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's exactly what I'm always trying to talk about,

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, it's not gonna matter if you're acting

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<v Speaker 3>I think they were given North Korea was the example

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<v Speaker 3>talking about how North Korea, you know, for example, they

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<v Speaker 3>could have this technology that if you're not actually for

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<v Speaker 3>the regime. They can read your mind and know how

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<v Speaker 3>your thoughts, actions, and emotions are actually rendering, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>the plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Channon Forbes was Kino's first wife. She died in at

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<v Speaker 1>age forty one, very young. No shit, she died in

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<v Speaker 1>eighty nine. Yeah, so then Lilith came after. I think

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<v Speaker 3>He dedicated Mind Star Mind ward of Lilith, and that

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<v Speaker 3>was his first book. So it's funny that he dated

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<v Speaker 1>at Wachuka too, which ties him to the same military base.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like all these guys around TPUSA. Yeah, and a

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<v Speaker 1>Valelli who's like a board member or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well exactly, I mean, you know, he's so crazy, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I mean by you know, the uh, these.

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<v Speaker 3>Are the current iterations of what he was talking about,

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<v Speaker 3>and I guess some of them took the time to

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<v Speaker 3>really understand what he was trying to say in a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of these books, you know, but it's it's a

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<v Speaker 3>it's an indoctrination once you read all this and you

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<v Speaker 3>start thinking this way. This definitely is worded in a

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<v Speaker 3>way where you know, it's getting you to believe in

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<v Speaker 3>this ideology.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you see today that Trump said in eight or

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<v Speaker 3>nine years they'll get out of the office.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not, But I'm not surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's all I'm thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he's externalizing a lot of confusion and

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<v Speaker 1>chaos and like deliberately, like I don't know if he's

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<v Speaker 1>really all their mental but like you can't you can't

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<v Speaker 1>trust anything that comes out of his mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>So on page one hundred and four, you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>get this far in here to kind of get some

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<v Speaker 3>real information. He says, what we do as a geopolitical

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<v Speaker 3>analysis firm, Stratford provides valuable context to global events that

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<v Speaker 3>empowers businesses, governments, and individuals to confidently navigate an increasingly

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<v Speaker 3>complex international environment. Found it twenty years ago around the

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<v Speaker 3>principle that transformative world events are not random or in

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<v Speaker 3>fact aren't in fact predictable. So he's talking about a

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<v Speaker 3>company that was essentially it and like Palentteer, it takes

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<v Speaker 3>data and it kind of predicts what could happen, and

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<v Speaker 3>along with our unique methodology, and so he talks about

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<v Speaker 3>globally engaged individuals from the Fortune five hundred companies, universities,

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<v Speaker 3>and organizations across an array of industries turned to stratf

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<v Speaker 3>for objective geopolitical analysis and forecasting that reveals the underlying

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<v Speaker 2>So it's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>This Stratford company seems to be one of the first

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<v Speaker 3>iterations of kind of a pall Andeer oracle kind of

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<v Speaker 3>situation where we're we're gonna we're gonna forecast what's gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 3>and we can kind of pokeing prod certain buttons and

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're touching on these different corporations that have influenced

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<v Speaker 1>the major culture. Because the guy from Stratfor is connected

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<v Speaker 1>to Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah wow, here called it info Wars for a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how.

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<v Speaker 1>Stratfars in Dallas, or it's in or it's in Austin

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<v Speaker 1>the history of Stratfor is very strange.

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<v Speaker 3>See, because I just was saying the other day, I

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<v Speaker 3>have mind Wars just kind of being made.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody knew about that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The world's leading geopolitical intelligence forum. That's what it at

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<v Speaker 1>least was back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I didn't know that Jones was connected to that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so clear. God, there's some connection between Jones and Stratford,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's in my mind somewhere for It's very opaque.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like overt. Yeah, there is some connection. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to remember it. Let me see if you find it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I see Nefin there talking about jd Vance and Erica

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<v Speaker 3>Kirk looking like brother and sister.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, you know, the Janet chick that he dedicated this

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<v Speaker 3>to looks a lot like Erica Kirk. Janet Aquino like,

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<v Speaker 3>she looks just like her, kind of kind of pretty,

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<v Speaker 3>not as crazy looking as Lilith is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Really she looks actually kind of semi wholesome moment.

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<v Speaker 3>see Alex Jones and Stratford.

426
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<v Speaker 1>Exam. This is not my article, guys, this is somebody else.

427
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<v Speaker 1>I knew that there was something here. Investigation published in

428
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<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve operational connections to Stratford Strategic Forecasting and private

429
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<v Speaker 1>and intelligence firm headquartered in Austin. That's where Jones is.

430
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<v Speaker 1>That is. The allegation sparked a series of responses, counter allegations,

431
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<v Speaker 1>and events that raised questions about the relationships between alternative media,

432
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<v Speaker 1>private intelligence firms, and goverment agencies. They started in Austin

433
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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety six, right around when Jones started his

434
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<v Speaker 1>media career the same year ninety.

435
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, Mine Wars was written right around ninety six.

436
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I want to say the book itself, the

437
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<v Speaker 3>actual book came out right around then.

438
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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit.

439
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<v Speaker 3>So that's crazy because right here it talks about what

440
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<v Speaker 3>they did in their methodology. Here are analysis can begin

441
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<v Speaker 3>with a flood of open source information. Then they filter

442
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<v Speaker 3>out the noise and unearth emerging paradigm's, challenge assumptions and

443
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<v Speaker 3>reconcile conflicting truth. So imagine like social media, right, they

444
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<v Speaker 3>do the same thing on there, and they're data collecting

445
00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:19.839
<v Speaker 3>our reactions so they can kind of, you know, course

446
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<v Speaker 3>correct for the propaganda.

447
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<v Speaker 2>It seems like it.

448
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<v Speaker 1>Was released in wiki leaks that there was a Stratford

449
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<v Speaker 1>Jones connection.

450
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<v Speaker 2>No shit.

451
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So February twenty seventh of March twenty twelve and

452
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<v Speaker 1>Forrest published at least a dozen stories with Stratford Stratford

453
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<v Speaker 1>emails in their headlines. The volume of Stratford related content

454
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<v Speaker 1>was unprecedented for the site.

455
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<v Speaker 3>No wonder he was hammering on that Hilary Clinton aspects

456
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<v Speaker 3>to WikiLeaks.

457
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<v Speaker 2>He's like, don't look over here.

458
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<v Speaker 1>Stratford email mentioned Jones, and email stated that the government

459
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<v Speaker 1>should release photographs to shut down the lunatics like Alex

460
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<v Speaker 1>Jones and Glenn Beck.

461
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<v Speaker 2>Glenn Beck, huh. I never really listened to him. What

462
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<v Speaker 2>was he all about? Did you listen? I don't know.

463
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Don't follow them. I don't listen to

464
00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Jones anymore. I went through a Jones period, like or

465
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<v Speaker 1>after nine to eleven, but then I'd had enough. Yeah,

466
00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:16.119
<v Speaker 1>I still I kind of have enough. He's so ever

467
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<v Speaker 1>present that I don't have a choice but to listen

468
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<v Speaker 1>to him.

469
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<v Speaker 3>You know.

470
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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he shows up my social media. But

471
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<v Speaker 1>I mean some of the stuff that he's done recently

472
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<v Speaker 1>is just garbage. It's gobbled.

473
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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, yeah, they shut down.

474
00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:31.640
<v Speaker 1>And conspiracy smack type stuff.

475
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<v Speaker 3>No topic it had to be getting to him that

476
00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:38.240
<v Speaker 3>nobody's taking him seriously anymore, you know, recently, so they're like,

477
00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:41.599
<v Speaker 3>all right, let's shut it down, shut.

478
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<v Speaker 1>It down and restart, rebrand, just like Tucker.

479
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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's what they do. I think Tucker is

480
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<v Speaker 3>the next iteration of the whole thing. You know this

481
00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:51.279
<v Speaker 3>everybody's pushing for this third party with Tucker leading it,

482
00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:52.519
<v Speaker 3>just like I've been saying.

483
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe somebody in the chat knows more about the

484
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<v Speaker 1>Stratford connections, but.

485
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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, I'm gonna have to add that in with

486
00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:01.519
<v Speaker 3>my Disinfoco episode.

487
00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I do. Yeah, there's that one article. I think this

488
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<v Speaker 1>is one of many articles. I think that there's like

489
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<v Speaker 1>other articles about this.

490
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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'll be digging into that.

491
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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy because I know that well, I know like Mappin,

492
00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:15.559
<v Speaker 3>that billionaire Mappin has a connection with Candice and him

493
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<v Speaker 3>via the lawyer or something they share for like, you know,

494
00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:24.319
<v Speaker 3>his Sandy Hook situation, and uh I think she received

495
00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:27.000
<v Speaker 3>yeah he got Yeah, they both have the same lawyer

496
00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:29.279
<v Speaker 3>with the Sandy Hook situation. And then John Mappin, who

497
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:33.440
<v Speaker 3>introduced her to Charlie Kirk, is somebody where she gets

498
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:37.039
<v Speaker 3>connected with like Charlie from a long time ago, but yeah,

499
00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:39.680
<v Speaker 3>very crazy and you know her dad was that like

500
00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Sandy Hook is a maintenance guy or something.

501
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:45.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, something weird like that, Alex and Alex Jones hire

502
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<v Speaker 1>a CIA Stratford agent as his editor, Like this is

503
00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>what's going on? Yeah, no, it's like crazy stuff.

504
00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:53.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, you see, they're trying to say that there was

505
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:57.359
<v Speaker 3>a guy within Info Wars that was sabotaging Alex Jones

506
00:25:57.400 --> 00:25:59.799
<v Speaker 3>show trying to like divert it to somebody else within

507
00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:03.519
<v Speaker 3>his organization. That just came out recently. I forgot his name.

508
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:07.279
<v Speaker 3>It's like Mark or something. I don't know the people

509
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.559
<v Speaker 3>that work at at uh in for Wars. But so

510
00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:12.640
<v Speaker 3>it gets into the Hudson Institute after this. Do you

511
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<v Speaker 3>know anything about connections with that?

512
00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>No, but Hudson Institute pops up a lot, and also

513
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:22.359
<v Speaker 1>the world government, World federal government is heavy CIA stuff.

514
00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Like one of the founders of Operation Mockingbird started that

515
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<v Speaker 1>his name Okay, he had a funny first name. It'll

516
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:37.000
<v Speaker 1>come to me, but he was he was heavily involved

517
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<v Speaker 1>in that. So it's interesting to see a Keno mention that, and.

518
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:45.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he gets into uh, I'm trying to see if

519
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<v Speaker 3>there's any Tavistock in the Hudson Institute.

520
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>World Future Society.

521
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<v Speaker 3>He talked about Hudson Institute challenges conventional thinking and helps

522
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<v Speaker 3>manage strategic transitions to the future through introdis plenary studies

523
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:06.480
<v Speaker 3>in defense, uh, international relations, economics, health, cars, healthcare, and technology. So,

524
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:10.400
<v Speaker 3>like you said, the mockingbird situation makes sense that would

525
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:14.519
<v Speaker 3>come out of here if they're focused on conventional thinking.

526
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that he mentioned stratfor in this book. Incredible.

527
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:23.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he's promoting stratfor. That is like disinfo or

528
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:24.400
<v Speaker 1>something like this.

529
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:25.319
<v Speaker 2>He talked.

530
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<v Speaker 3>He talks about the military industrial complex being the reason

531
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<v Speaker 3>why JFK got killed because the day after he took

532
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:36.720
<v Speaker 3>him out of Vietnam or something, they like, you know,

533
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:40.200
<v Speaker 3>killed him or something something close to that. Uh, maybe

534
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.400
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't the Vietnam but Bay Pigs one of those

535
00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:45.200
<v Speaker 3>where he said that the military industrial complex killed him.

536
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:47.039
<v Speaker 2>And I thought that was kind of crazy to say

537
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:48.400
<v Speaker 2>in a book.

538
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 3>You know, right as a general, you know, for the

539
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:57.039
<v Speaker 3>military to say that it was the military industrial complex

540
00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:00.640
<v Speaker 3>that killed the president surprising. I didn't expect to see

541
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:05.359
<v Speaker 3>that in one of his books. So the CIA, it

542
00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:08.799
<v Speaker 3>talks about uh, contrary to its popular images a behind

543
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:12.680
<v Speaker 3>the green door tree for it. The Central Intelligence Intelligence

544
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:16.519
<v Speaker 3>Agency both publishes and makes web search available vast quantities

545
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:22.880
<v Speaker 3>of information Pert's website, unclassified current publications to basic references

546
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:26.000
<v Speaker 3>reports the maps. So it says the World Factbook provides

547
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:29.720
<v Speaker 3>information on the history, people, government, economy, and so it

548
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:32.559
<v Speaker 3>should be added that the DOS and CIA also attempt

549
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:37.160
<v Speaker 3>to be responsive to public requests for specialized FOYA formalities

550
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:39.559
<v Speaker 3>and simply send them a letter with your question. So

551
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:41.759
<v Speaker 3>he's just kind of advocating for the CIA a little bit.

552
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:44.160
<v Speaker 3>He's so, Yeah, they got a whole database. You can

553
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:46.720
<v Speaker 3>get all kinds of info from them.

554
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:49.519
<v Speaker 1>The guy's name was cord Meyer. He was one of

555
00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:53.319
<v Speaker 1>the top guys from the CIA, and he's one of

556
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:56.759
<v Speaker 1>the United World Federalists. Like I think it's associated with

557
00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:01.039
<v Speaker 1>the WFS, the World Federalist Society Future Society.

558
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:03.559
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. I've heard of that. I didn't look into

559
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:04.160
<v Speaker 2>that very much.

560
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's UWF as World, United World Federalists as what.

561
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:15.039
<v Speaker 1>So it's overlaps. But he's a very interesting guy's a

562
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>whole other story.

563
00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, I've been did you.

564
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:21.519
<v Speaker 3>I'll have to send you this thing about just because

565
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:24.000
<v Speaker 3>it's off topic, about to send you this thing about Epstein.

566
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:27.400
<v Speaker 3>And do you know about like Leslie Epstein and Philip

567
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 3>Epstein like from Hollywood got indicted for like communism and

568
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Hollywood by the Warner brother.

569
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.519
<v Speaker 1>I've heard of that name. Yeahs, I've heard of Leslie Epstein's.

570
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:38.599
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of Epstein's.

571
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:42.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, Jeffy no, but Jeffrey Epstein's dad, Seymour Epstein, went

572
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:45.160
<v Speaker 3>to the war in forty one and then it was

573
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.519
<v Speaker 3>his history was done. And then in nineteen fifty six,

574
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.839
<v Speaker 3>right after Philip Epstein got indicted in Hollywood, he disappears

575
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:53.160
<v Speaker 3>or he.

576
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 2>Died rather from a heart attack at forty two, and.

577
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Then Seymour Epstein out of nowhere gets married that year

578
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 3>over and you know, the Coney Island and has Jeffrey Epstein.

579
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.519
<v Speaker 3>This was the father of Leslie Epstein who wrote the

580
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:07.400
<v Speaker 3>book King of the Jews. So it's like a weird

581
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:10.160
<v Speaker 3>like cross, like they look like brothers. So I don't know,

582
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.799
<v Speaker 3>it's just a little thing I would look into with.

583
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I think jeff was born in nineteen fifty three.

584
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Epstein was.

585
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jeffrey Jeffrey Epstein, the Jeffrey Epstein. Oh really, yeah,

586
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's that's well.

587
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I wonder how they why, I mean, you can't trust much.

588
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<v Speaker 3>Maybe fifty two, I said fifty six. Maybe it was

589
00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:31.000
<v Speaker 3>fifty two, because fifty two I believe he gets married

590
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:33.200
<v Speaker 3>and then Coney Island he moves there and then has

591
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:34.079
<v Speaker 3>Jeffrey Epstein.

592
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:35.519
<v Speaker 2>It could have been fifty two.

593
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:37.960
<v Speaker 3>So I have to double for a year because it's

594
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:40.319
<v Speaker 3>very close to what you're saying, So that really runs

595
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:42.279
<v Speaker 3>into the timeline.

596
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:46.079
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Philip Epstein, you know, apparently died.

597
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:50.039
<v Speaker 1>January twentieth, nineteen fifty three. Jeffrey Edward Epstein.

598
00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Cool.

599
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:55.799
<v Speaker 3>And then I wonder when when did Seymour Epstein get married?

600
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's find out. Let's see if he happened.

601
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 3>He got married, just because I'm curious, But you got married,

602
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.799
<v Speaker 3>let me see here, nineteen fifty two. Yeah, so that's

603
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:09.759
<v Speaker 3>the year that And then now watch this, when did

604
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Philip Epstein.

605
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:13.359
<v Speaker 2>He died of a heart attack?

606
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:21.039
<v Speaker 3>And that's so crazy that one of the Warner brothers

607
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:27.480
<v Speaker 3>testified against this guy nineteen forty. Is this the same guy?

608
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:29.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure if this the same guy. I'd have

609
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:35.400
<v Speaker 3>to see. But it's crazy that that one of the

610
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:38.079
<v Speaker 3>Warner brothers testified against these guys for communism.

611
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:39.759
<v Speaker 2>Nineteen fifty two he dies.

612
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:42.599
<v Speaker 3>So Philip Epstein dies in nineteen fifty two at age

613
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:44.839
<v Speaker 3>forty two from a heart attack. He was one of

614
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:46.599
<v Speaker 3>the people who co wrote Casablanca.

615
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, yeah, so.

616
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Like the Epstein's came here from Germany co write, you know,

617
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 3>they go to Hollywood co write Casablanca, and then all

618
00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:56.000
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden people start pointing at him. There's a

619
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.359
<v Speaker 3>huge political turmoil in Hollywood for communism. And then he

620
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.079
<v Speaker 3>dies of a heart attack that same year, the Seymour

621
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Epstein guy, it's almost like his identity got used, even

622
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.160
<v Speaker 3>though he died in a war or something. And then boom,

623
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:09.720
<v Speaker 3>he gets married, goes to Coney Island, has Jeffrey Epstein,

624
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:13.319
<v Speaker 3>and he had already had Leslie, and so that's why

625
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.599
<v Speaker 3>it's like, what's up with that, you know? And then

626
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:18.599
<v Speaker 3>Leslie writes a book that Leslie writes a book about

627
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:21.880
<v Speaker 3>like Donald Trump essentially, or is somebody like him, I

628
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:24.559
<v Speaker 3>don't know, some odd stuff, man, some odd stuff.

629
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>It's so strange, man, it is so freaking strange that

630
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned Stratford and disinfo because that's like one of

631
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the lesser known thing about Rogan. It's not just his

632
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.759
<v Speaker 1>connection to the Epstein network. It's like he is tied

633
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:40.279
<v Speaker 1>into Satanist's brow.

634
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was at that one.

635
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:44.440
<v Speaker 3>He was at that one guy's wedding, and that was,

636
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:47.359
<v Speaker 3>for a the longest time, the only kind of evidence

637
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:47.960
<v Speaker 3>you had.

638
00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:51.000
<v Speaker 2>But then the Disinfoco kind of really opens it all up.

639
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know this, but he has

640
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:55.559
<v Speaker 1>this one guy, he's a repeat guest on there. He's

641
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:59.319
<v Speaker 1>very close associates with Damian Eccles of the West Memphis three.

642
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:03.920
<v Speaker 3>So it's like yeah, shit, okay, yeah, and you know

643
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:05.720
<v Speaker 3>a lot about the West Memphis Three. I remember I

644
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 3>spoke out a turn on that thinking that they didn't

645
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:13.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, that they didn't do it, but they definitely Yeah.

646
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.559
<v Speaker 1>They're convicted at law, Like I understand what convictions mean.

647
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>That means that you've gone through the process. They're actually

648
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:21.559
<v Speaker 1>strange because they've been convicted twice. And I would argue

649
00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I probably know more about the West Memphis three than

650
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>even the lawyers who worked on it back in nineteen.

651
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.599
<v Speaker 2>Ninety sixty, right, I mean, you have that back.

652
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:34.559
<v Speaker 1>Because they just moved on, Like I have the long

653
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>range view that looks back through the whole case, right

654
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.319
<v Speaker 1>and just you know, prosecute and move forward.

655
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Man, some more evidence comes up. Get there, ass.

656
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:44.359
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you this when I when I published my

657
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.039
<v Speaker 1>first when I published my book about the West Memphis Three,

658
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I was a very you know, small group of people

659
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.079
<v Speaker 1>who kind of understood the case, like because the public

660
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:56.279
<v Speaker 1>believed that he was innocent and he was railroad for

661
00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>a crime he didn't commit. But once I published that,

662
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:01.519
<v Speaker 1>they took my book and they put it up on

663
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the Arkansas Supreme Court website. You can actually go through

664
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the wayback machine right around twenty twelve, so they the

665
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:12.599
<v Speaker 1>Arkansas Supreme Court recommended my book as the book about

666
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the West Memphis Three.

667
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:14.159
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing.

668
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's kind of like a feather in my cap.

669
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:19.159
<v Speaker 1>I have a screenshot of it somewhere.

670
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:20.119
<v Speaker 2>No, that's awesome.

671
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Echols is close to this guy. It's called there

672
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:27.599
<v Speaker 1>was a show called Midnight Climax or something like that.

673
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.199
<v Speaker 1>I've heard it, yeah, and the guy's name is.

674
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:35.159
<v Speaker 3>I think it was LaVey's grandson's wedding. He was at

675
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:36.920
<v Speaker 3>two or son, there's a picture of it.

676
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, it wasn't that. I have to find a

677
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>guest name out. It wasn't Midnight Climax. It's something else,

678
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Purple Midnight.

679
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Well. Ben Gertzel is another weird one, Like you know that.

680
00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.760
<v Speaker 3>That guy's a weird guy to have on and he

681
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:01.960
<v Speaker 3>was in the Epstein files, like you know, pretty it

682
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:04.400
<v Speaker 3>seemed like talk to Epstein a pretty good amount.

683
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Midnight. The guy's name is Charles Duncan Trussell and he

684
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>did something oh Midnight Gospel that featured Damien Knuckles.

685
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.079
<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, dude, Duncan Trustle's connected to him. So

686
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:18.480
<v Speaker 3>that's crazy because my favorite episodes for the longest time

687
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:20.760
<v Speaker 3>before I got real deep into this kind of like

688
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:22.840
<v Speaker 3>started to wake up a little more was Duncan Trussell

689
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.599
<v Speaker 3>and Joe Rogan episodes and Duncan Trustle will come on

690
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 3>and he was He's very uh, man, it's hard to explain.

691
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:33.760
<v Speaker 3>He's like the weirdest like hippie mixed with like Buddhist

692
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:38.880
<v Speaker 3>kind so deep at it though, like it really makes

693
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:41.519
<v Speaker 3>you like, man, I love how he's talking. Uh.

694
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:43.480
<v Speaker 2>It's one of those things where it's.

695
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:44.920
<v Speaker 3>Like but then now I've kind of looked back and

696
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:47.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, man, that the dude's an idiot. But either way,

697
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:49.880
<v Speaker 3>that's crazy. I had no idea he was connected to them.

698
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:51.559
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't shock me at all.

699
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Though he was featured in the Midnight Gospel ecchos was

700
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of in a positive way, so like the I

701
00:35:58.000 --> 00:35:59.760
<v Speaker 1>think the Hollywood people have been involved in.

702
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, when you say Midnight Gospel, it rang a bell.

703
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:04.519
<v Speaker 3>But I did not connect Duncan Trussel. But now that

704
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:06.639
<v Speaker 3>you said that, I know that that was his show. Yeah,

705
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:08.639
<v Speaker 3>that was his show he made. And I didn't know

706
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:10.039
<v Speaker 3>he had echoes in there.

707
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Damn.

708
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you want to have a bad And he

709
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:16.840
<v Speaker 1>was on Tim Poole and Tim Poole just like log

710
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.320
<v Speaker 1>roll for Ecchoes the whole time. It's kind of it

711
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:22.159
<v Speaker 1>is outside of this, but it's not the reason that

712
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.519
<v Speaker 1>it's not outside of this is because there isn't a cult,

713
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 1>a culted underground of a Kino involved in TPUs a

714
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>modern type stuff disinformation to rogue in Midnight Gospel, West

715
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Memphis Street to Trussel. So there is a something underneath

716
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:41.599
<v Speaker 1>our common culture.

717
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:44.920
<v Speaker 3>They're trying to generate a culture, and they're pointing I

718
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.079
<v Speaker 3>believe they're pointing at design as called in like the

719
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:49.320
<v Speaker 3>whole like you know, the Jewish Hollywood and all this

720
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.960
<v Speaker 3>to trying to really drive this culture more into being

721
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:58.599
<v Speaker 3>the normal one. Uh you know, we're yeah, we're not

722
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 3>going to get a better alternate to what we already

723
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:01.960
<v Speaker 3>have been given.

724
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:05.679
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, man, wow, yeah no, So there's a lot there.

725
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 2>It's very related though.

726
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:09.559
<v Speaker 3>Every influencer I believe is the next generation of this

727
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:12.159
<v Speaker 3>same kind of mind war campaign. So that's why it's

728
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:14.480
<v Speaker 3>it's good to cross reference with what we're talking about.

729
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:17.320
<v Speaker 1>But that's why they get elevated. That's why these guys

730
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:19.679
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden they have a million freaking followers

731
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:23.599
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, is because they're part of the club. They're

732
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>called part of the club. Man.

733
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:26.400
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

734
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, crazy.

735
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:29.719
<v Speaker 3>So it talks about false flags here as well. He

736
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:33.639
<v Speaker 3>just kind of defines it covert attack stage to appear

737
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:36.639
<v Speaker 3>conducted by a nation or group other than oneself. They

738
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:39.719
<v Speaker 3>are used to attack one's own territory in people, as

739
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:44.199
<v Speaker 3>George Orwell indifferently observed in nineteen eighty four, domestic populations

740
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:47.960
<v Speaker 3>emotionally reject believing that their own governments would kill Some

741
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:51.239
<v Speaker 3>are even many of them merely to excuse attacking a

742
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:55.639
<v Speaker 3>foreign target such as appalling not just routine, but unremarkably so,

743
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:57.760
<v Speaker 3>so that's all he had to say about it. So

744
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:02.320
<v Speaker 3>it's he didn't say it's a bad thing necessarily either.

745
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:05.599
<v Speaker 3>You know, he's not saying this is deplorable, we should

746
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:07.840
<v Speaker 3>never do it. He's saying no, I mean, the population

747
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:09.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of rejects the idea that we would do that,

748
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:14.920
<v Speaker 3>almost to give it credence that we should. So my

749
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:19.800
<v Speaker 3>more contrast, talks about the enemy as a definition. Humans

750
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:23.239
<v Speaker 3>are not harmed nor their property destroyed, because they're never

751
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:26.840
<v Speaker 3>defined as the enemy. Rather, the enemy is the probable

752
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:32.360
<v Speaker 3>situation itself against which all involved humans are in alliance

753
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 3>to overcome. So that's a weird definition. It's an odd definition.

754
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:44.679
<v Speaker 3>So what does that even mean? The enemy is the

755
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:49.840
<v Speaker 3>problem situation itself. That reminds me of like my you know,

756
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:53.039
<v Speaker 3>the hive mind kind of like idea, you know.

757
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:55.480
<v Speaker 2>A little bit.

758
00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:58.400
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, he talks about the aristos here a little

759
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:00.199
<v Speaker 3>bit more, where we kind of try to define it

760
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Speaker 3>last time, and it was a little bit, a little

761
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:07.400
<v Speaker 3>bit hard. He says that mcavelly is combination of virtue

762
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.719
<v Speaker 3>and occasion resulting in Ordini.

763
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Dude, he uses crazy words.

764
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:14.480
<v Speaker 3>It would be quite possibly to limit the mind ware

765
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:20.920
<v Speaker 3>campaign campaign to this implicit practicality of aristos and he

766
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:25.639
<v Speaker 3>again doesn't give it a very good definition. See, it's

767
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:28.800
<v Speaker 3>this ultra vague vagueness that they use that really just

768
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:32.519
<v Speaker 3>makes me, you know, because you can't honestly, Mind Wars

769
00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:34.039
<v Speaker 3>is the main book that you can draw a lot

770
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:35.760
<v Speaker 3>out of. The rest of these are kind of just

771
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:40.239
<v Speaker 3>like him, musing, musing as he writes, that's what a

772
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.519
<v Speaker 3>lot of these other books are. It's like you're stepping

773
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.920
<v Speaker 3>into a psycho's brain, right.

774
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:50.760
<v Speaker 1>It's one of the kind of central components of a

775
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:55.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of Satanists is getting into other people's minds and

776
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:59.559
<v Speaker 1>mind control. So it even pre dates this kind of

777
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>system type of thing like MK ultra. But you I've

778
00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:06.159
<v Speaker 1>read I've had the misfortune reading a lot of Crowley

779
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:12.159
<v Speaker 1>in Lovey and a Chino, and it's always like mimetics, subtle,

780
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:17.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, get into the unconscious. Uh. And it was

781
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>a neuro linguistic programming, so people don't know they're being influenced,

782
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:24.840
<v Speaker 1>so it's just kind of dark influence. I've actually a

783
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:28.760
<v Speaker 1>book did a book discussion with a guy who wrote

784
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a known psychiatrist who wrote a book called Dark Influence.

785
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:35.599
<v Speaker 1>And you see this, like LaVey had books about my control.

786
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>They were all into it. Marilyn Manson too, they're all

787
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and and Echols for that matter.

788
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 3>And it's how you it's how you speak, it's the

789
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:44.480
<v Speaker 3>way you talk, it's how you know. It's the shortening

790
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.679
<v Speaker 3>of words and just different things like that that really

791
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:50.199
<v Speaker 3>gets in your brain. Yeah, that's why I don't like to, uh, like,

792
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.400
<v Speaker 3>I read the Have you ever read the Satanic Bible.

793
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I've read everything, dude, I've read the Satanic Bible. I've

794
00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:00.360
<v Speaker 1>read like what else whatever LaVey has written back in

795
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the day. And I didn't understand that number nine, his

796
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:05.639
<v Speaker 1>number nine and stuff like that. I wasn't aware of that.

797
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:07.519
<v Speaker 1>Now I understand the power number and all that.

798
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:10.039
<v Speaker 3>And that's where the nine A comes from, right, that's

799
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:11.840
<v Speaker 3>the whole old nine A and everything else.

800
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nine gates.

801
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the power. It's like the most powerful number

802
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:18.360
<v Speaker 1>before the numbers start repeating themselves exactly.

803
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

804
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:21.000
<v Speaker 3>And it's funny because like in astrology some of the

805
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:24.360
<v Speaker 3>New Age philosophy, you'll read that nine is the uh

806
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:28.440
<v Speaker 3>it lasts imperfect number before the perfect, so it's like

807
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of venerated in a weird way. But it seems

808
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:34.639
<v Speaker 3>to be that nine would be almost implicit of the

809
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Luciferian false light because it's not quite the perfect, it's

810
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:40.519
<v Speaker 3>the imperfect, and so it's kind of a weird thing there,

811
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:40.840
<v Speaker 3>you know.

812
00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:43.639
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, bring up Leve. He has like the nine

813
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:46.679
<v Speaker 1>dictims of like Satanism, you know, so it's like they're

814
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:49.239
<v Speaker 1>not eight, there's not ten. And that's the whole thing

815
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>about eleven is like it skips over the perfect number ten,

816
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:54.639
<v Speaker 1>the dryad or whatever they call it.

817
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and it's like it's like double masculine two,

818
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:01.599
<v Speaker 3>which seems to be makes sense that.

819
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:02.880
<v Speaker 2>It would be part of the left hand path.

820
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think so.

821
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:06.960
<v Speaker 3>So, you know, there's one point where he talks about

822
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:08.639
<v Speaker 3>the left hand path as a matter of fact in here,

823
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:09.960
<v Speaker 3>and he says that, you know, it's been kind of

824
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:12.840
<v Speaker 3>looked at, you know, bad, but you know, making yourself

825
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:14.800
<v Speaker 3>one as God is not like a bad thing. So

826
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.800
<v Speaker 3>he kind of justifies the idea of making your you know,

827
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:20.800
<v Speaker 3>doing the left hand path when it comes to you know,

828
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.360
<v Speaker 3>witchcraft or satanism.

829
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>They all do, that's all. They're all making it good.

830
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he gets into this, this idea of the pyramid structure,

831
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 3>where at.

832
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:35.960
<v Speaker 2>The bottom of it is here, hold on, let me

833
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:36.360
<v Speaker 2>get to it.

834
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:40.039
<v Speaker 3>Here at the bottom of it is homeostasis. And the

835
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:42.159
<v Speaker 3>way you achieve that is, of course at the very top,

836
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.760
<v Speaker 3>we'll skip to the top. Here there's parapolitics, right, and

837
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:48.599
<v Speaker 3>then you know above that would be agathon or the good,

838
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:52.320
<v Speaker 3>and so there's the archetypes and pure vision. So they

839
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:54.679
<v Speaker 3>use the archetypes to kind of manipulate you at the top,

840
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:57.800
<v Speaker 3>and then down below that would be thinking, which would

841
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:00.760
<v Speaker 3>be your thinking, right, So they use archetypes to thinking,

842
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:03.639
<v Speaker 3>and then below would be believing, right, So they get

843
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.159
<v Speaker 3>you to believe in things, and then of course gets

844
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:07.960
<v Speaker 3>you to imagine things at the bottom, which I don't

845
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:10.159
<v Speaker 3>know what that has, it's pretty much the same thing.

846
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:12.920
<v Speaker 3>And then of course achieving homeostasis. So it's a top

847
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:17.280
<v Speaker 3>down kind of pyramidal structure that he and of course

848
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:21.079
<v Speaker 3>at the top is like a son almost like a god,

849
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:23.239
<v Speaker 3>which I believe that he looks at it as each

850
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:26.440
<v Speaker 3>initiate would be that, right, So each initiate puts down

851
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:30.320
<v Speaker 3>the the pure vision to change your thinking and believing,

852
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:33.719
<v Speaker 3>and then of course now you achieve the homeostasis, which

853
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:34.320
<v Speaker 3>is control.

854
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, it's all the same, man, it's all the same.

855
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Everybody shall be as gods. There's no god but man,

856
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:44.679
<v Speaker 1>luck Crowley. These guys are all similar. That's why they

857
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:47.280
<v Speaker 1>have to break off and start their own religion because

858
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:49.280
<v Speaker 1>they're thinking it's too similar. They have to kind of

859
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 1>rebrand it almost. But in all the core philosophies and

860
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:54.719
<v Speaker 1>ideas are still.

861
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I know this better than you do.

862
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:58.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say it the way I know it, you know,

863
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.840
<v Speaker 3>And they reword it their way. But it's the same thing,

864
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:04.079
<v Speaker 3>and it's different yep, Like like Ben says, you know,

865
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:07.039
<v Speaker 3>it's just a different pig with a different lipstick on,

866
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:08.000
<v Speaker 3>shade lipstick on.

867
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:11.199
<v Speaker 1>Indeed, there's there's that is the truth.

868
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:16.079
<v Speaker 3>Uh So here I'm almost to this one kind of

869
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:19.239
<v Speaker 3>interesting part that I found War is Peace I kind

870
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:20.360
<v Speaker 3>of talked about a little bit ago.

871
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:21.519
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

872
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 3>It just goes into George Orwell and how he kind

873
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:26.480
<v Speaker 3>of how he had it right. And this kind of

874
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:30.199
<v Speaker 3>double think, this double speak, and this politics it together

875
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:32.840
<v Speaker 3>kind of gets people to kind of come against one enemy,

876
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:35.239
<v Speaker 3>and we forget about the problems we have here at home,

877
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:38.079
<v Speaker 3>and so war ends up being peace in the homeland

878
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:40.400
<v Speaker 3>because we've got somebody to go after. And that's why

879
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:42.559
<v Speaker 3>we're always in a perpetual state of war in America,

880
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:46.639
<v Speaker 3>because we're not focusing on the degregation going on here

881
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 3>as much. It's getting hard to ignore now, but for

882
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:51.639
<v Speaker 3>a while it worked.

883
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, La looks like a third world country. It's a

884
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:57.480
<v Speaker 1>total dun't. They can't even pave the roads, like at

885
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:01.320
<v Speaker 1>a basic level, Like I've literally seen the civilization like

886
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:03.159
<v Speaker 1>circle the toilet. It's incredible.

887
00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I know, I was there.

888
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:06.679
<v Speaker 3>Last time I was there, I think it was in

889
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:10.159
<v Speaker 3>twenty sixteen, and so it was right before it kind

890
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:12.760
<v Speaker 3>of really got down trodden after, you know, during COVID

891
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:13.440
<v Speaker 3>and after.

892
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:19.039
<v Speaker 1>They literally have like shutdowns on the freaking freeway so

893
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you can't get on the freeway. They shut it down

894
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and like just do circles like it's from a scene

895
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:28.199
<v Speaker 1>in The Joker. I'm not exaggerating. The police are incompetent

896
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:33.639
<v Speaker 1>and incapable of like ameliorating the problems, and there's no

897
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:36.679
<v Speaker 1>political will to do it. They're not tough, they're weak, so.

898
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.239
<v Speaker 2>And they want it. They want that kind of society

899
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 2>because I.

900
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Think they want to destroy the society.

901
00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:44.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you want to society, yeah, because then once you

902
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:47.239
<v Speaker 3>get that, you have a reason to institute the police state.

903
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

904
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:50.559
<v Speaker 3>You know, you need people begging for it, like Kissinger Stead.

905
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:53.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, they'll be begging for the you know, National

906
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:55.639
<v Speaker 3>Guard on every corner, That's what I mean. You know,

907
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:57.920
<v Speaker 3>guns on every corner. That's something mentioned in this book

908
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.320
<v Speaker 3>as well. Guns on every corner is some thing that

909
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:03.719
<v Speaker 3>would make things a lot more safe and a lot better.

910
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:08.159
<v Speaker 3>So this is their idea of making a good world.

911
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:13.119
<v Speaker 1>It's incredible, it's incredible. They haven't fixed like you know,

912
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.800
<v Speaker 1>part of the city burnt down, Pacific palacids. They haven't

913
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:18.679
<v Speaker 1>fixed it at all. That right, So that's the agenda.

914
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>The agenda is to destroy.

915
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:25.199
<v Speaker 3>It, burn it all down, sure, yeah, and build this metropolis.

916
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:27.639
<v Speaker 3>Here we are on a page one, sixty sixty six

917
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:29.599
<v Speaker 3>towards the end, and as I said, it seems like

918
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:31.639
<v Speaker 3>as you go through it, it's the progression of what

919
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:34.639
<v Speaker 3>we've seen in our society where it talks about wars,

920
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:38.679
<v Speaker 3>peace and not long after this techno state. The nineteen

921
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:45.480
<v Speaker 3>sixties political science circles was increasingly speculation, indeed, anticipation of

922
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:49.639
<v Speaker 3>an impending eclipse of the centuries familiar nation state frame

923
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:53.239
<v Speaker 3>of reference by a new monster called the multinational corporation.

924
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:55.920
<v Speaker 2>So the largest business ventures.

925
00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:59.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because in the sixties, I guess corporatism started to

926
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.159
<v Speaker 3>grow out of World War II too. There's a lot

927
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:03.079
<v Speaker 3>of people that think that the Nazis took a lot

928
00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:05.480
<v Speaker 3>of their money that they had and started these corporations,

929
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:09.239
<v Speaker 3>and so this corporatism consumerism kind of started to grow

930
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 3>after and if you think about it, it leads to the

931
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:14.599
<v Speaker 3>fascist state that the Nazis kind of started. And where

932
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:17.400
<v Speaker 3>we're at now, where you know, meta Facebook, can you

933
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:21.000
<v Speaker 3>know censor you? Because they're a private company, right, So

934
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:23.519
<v Speaker 3>that's your way to get this fascist kind of state

935
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:25.320
<v Speaker 3>where if the government can't do it, then the private

936
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:26.000
<v Speaker 3>companies can.

937
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:28.280
<v Speaker 2>And so I think that this kind of started after

938
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:28.800
<v Speaker 2>World War Two.

939
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:30.880
<v Speaker 3>But point being, he starts to kind of lay out

940
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.800
<v Speaker 3>this growth of this movement, and he said, as the

941
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:39.239
<v Speaker 3>decades rolled on, the spectrumdeed materialized, but along with the

942
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:43.719
<v Speaker 3>came a derivative, arguably even more sinister, the transformation of

943
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:49.320
<v Speaker 3>human values into technological ones. So Traditionally, the biological human

944
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:53.639
<v Speaker 3>being has been the substance of society, whether individually or

945
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.760
<v Speaker 3>in mass. But along with the proliferation of computers and

946
00:47:56.800 --> 00:48:02.920
<v Speaker 3>smartphones and other population pervasiveibernetics came the gradual revaluation of

947
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:06.800
<v Speaker 3>humans not as users of, but as used by these appendages.

948
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:11.840
<v Speaker 3>So he talked about the conquest of organic life by

949
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:15.800
<v Speaker 3>inorganic machines has long been the staple of science fiction

950
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:21.519
<v Speaker 3>like I Robot, The Humanoids, and Battlestar Galactica. But what

951
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:24.599
<v Speaker 3>parents and educators are suddenly worrying about is something much

952
00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:29.320
<v Speaker 3>more subtle and unnervingly science fact that iPhone suckle generations

953
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:32.360
<v Speaker 3>are growing up conditioned to process thoughts more like the

954
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:37.320
<v Speaker 3>machines who are increasingly their actual babysitters, friends, and teachers.

955
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:44.360
<v Speaker 3>This transition from organic analogic to inorganic digitalogic sacrifices in

956
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.920
<v Speaker 3>tangibles and abstractions for the speed and precision of either

957
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:49.079
<v Speaker 3>or simplification.

958
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:52.000
<v Speaker 2>So he's one hundred percent right here.

959
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:55.639
<v Speaker 3>Along the way, the metaphysical divine soul of the individual

960
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:00.480
<v Speaker 3>human being is first ignored and then disregarded, finally intentionally

961
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:04.079
<v Speaker 3>destroyed as an irrelevant obsolescence. So he seems to pose

962
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:07.559
<v Speaker 3>against this in a weird way. That's kind of interesting.

963
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Even the most venerable university is besieged by a generation

964
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:15.400
<v Speaker 3>of students, desperate for a foothold in the increasingly competitive

965
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:19.880
<v Speaker 3>and shrinking technological job market, are neglecting the humanities in

966
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:24.320
<v Speaker 3>favor of career practical curricula. So he talked about orwell,

967
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:28.559
<v Speaker 3>by twenty fifty earlier, probably all real knowledge of old

968
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.000
<v Speaker 3>speak will have disappeared.

969
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:33.280
<v Speaker 2>The whole literature of the Yeah, this is a quote.

970
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:37.039
<v Speaker 3>From that book of the past will have been destroyed Shakespeare,

971
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.920
<v Speaker 3>Milton Byron. They'll exist only in new speak versions, not

972
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:44.840
<v Speaker 3>merely changed into something different, but actually changed into something contradictory.

973
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.079
<v Speaker 3>And if you remember, they want to shorten everything to

974
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:50.119
<v Speaker 3>one word in that book. Every generation, we want to

975
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:53.679
<v Speaker 3>short it down, kind of like btw lol. And you

976
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:58.159
<v Speaker 3>know we've started that kind of little bit of a tiptoe.

977
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:01.039
<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, that's in. In fact, there will be

978
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:04.559
<v Speaker 3>no thought as we understand it now. Orthodoxy means not thinking,

979
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:08.119
<v Speaker 3>not needing to think. In Orthodoxy is unconsciousness, and that's

980
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:09.880
<v Speaker 3>where where they're trying to lead us.

981
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:13.719
<v Speaker 2>And and you know whether or not this guy wanted

982
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:14.000
<v Speaker 2>them to.

983
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:17.840
<v Speaker 3>They're using his like blueprint to do it, and that's

984
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:19.199
<v Speaker 3>the irony of the whole thing.

985
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:22.800
<v Speaker 1>What's interesting in some of these books, it's kind of

986
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.360
<v Speaker 1>the revelation of the method type thing. This is what

987
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:27.719
<v Speaker 1>you see their thing, and that's the like one of

988
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.760
<v Speaker 1>the takeaways from mind Slop to mind Wark is this

989
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:34.559
<v Speaker 1>is what they're talking about in military these huge military

990
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:38.840
<v Speaker 1>places like Wahoojah or wherever they write, they sit around

991
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and write theeces and masters, you know, theces and like

992
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:46.320
<v Speaker 1>on this type of subject. So this is what's kind

993
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:49.599
<v Speaker 1>of led out from these military brag and these other

994
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.920
<v Speaker 1>places where these guys are writing stuff for just interior

995
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.000
<v Speaker 1>for the military. They're not writing it for the public.

996
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:57.679
<v Speaker 1>And so that's what that's what they're This is like

997
00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:00.239
<v Speaker 1>what they're thinking. And you you don't even have to

998
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:04.320
<v Speaker 1>hear what they say because we can see it's being implemented. Yeah, right,

999
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:06.920
<v Speaker 1>like we can just see it with our own eyes.

1000
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.719
<v Speaker 3>I call it mental masturbation. A lot of these people

1001
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.960
<v Speaker 3>participate in. It's just you know, they're just sitting there

1002
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:17.559
<v Speaker 3>and just just you know, listening to themselves muse and rights,

1003
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:19.360
<v Speaker 3>and they just feel like they're just kind of in

1004
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:21.920
<v Speaker 3>their zone and they're just like the best, the best

1005
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:23.920
<v Speaker 3>to ever do it, you know, they're just like they're.

1006
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:25.039
<v Speaker 2>Just so full of themselves.

1007
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:27.239
<v Speaker 3>And you can see it come through the writing because

1008
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:29.400
<v Speaker 3>a lot of it isn't even coherent. It's stuff that

1009
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:31.679
<v Speaker 3>only they can understand because they feel like they're just

1010
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 3>so intelligent that they're speaking on this other level. And

1011
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:37.239
<v Speaker 3>it's not really like that intelligent when you break it down.

1012
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:41.079
<v Speaker 3>It's it's like stuff that you implicitly know instinctively that

1013
00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:44.119
<v Speaker 3>they're wording in a way that makes it super complicated.

1014
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:45.960
<v Speaker 2>That's what I've noticed.

1015
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:47.400
<v Speaker 3>With a lot of writings, and it kind of gets

1016
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:49.639
<v Speaker 3>annoying and boring after a while because you're like, dude,

1017
00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:51.599
<v Speaker 3>you're not doing anything. You guys are all saying the

1018
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:53.239
<v Speaker 3>same thing as we spoke about earlier.

1019
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:57.599
<v Speaker 1>You're all saying the same stuff. It's the old story

1020
00:51:57.639 --> 00:51:59.440
<v Speaker 1>all the way back into the garden. I guess is

1021
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the way to put you know.

1022
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So the last thing he ever wrote was this.

1023
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:08.039
<v Speaker 3>He put in like a like a little excerpt. It's

1024
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 3>this afterward, and I guess we could finish with this

1025
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:13.280
<v Speaker 3>out of this and we'll do mine stars sometime now.

1026
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:15.679
<v Speaker 2>That we kind of laid out. This was just kind

1027
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:16.719
<v Speaker 2>of a yeah, I didn't.

1028
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:18.119
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's just a lot of, like I said,

1029
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:21.800
<v Speaker 3>musing about all these different topics. You know, one thing though,

1030
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:25.920
<v Speaker 3>really quick, this does say disarmament. It is not just

1031
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:30.000
<v Speaker 3>atomic weaponry that poses a danger to humanity. The proliferation

1032
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:33.400
<v Speaker 3>of conventional armaments is proving every bit is lethal and

1033
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:38.480
<v Speaker 3>unlike nukes is everywhere in cywar use. So you know,

1034
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:41.079
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of different things in here. It's every

1035
00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:43.719
<v Speaker 3>aspect of our life they want to change and effect

1036
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:45.599
<v Speaker 3>with mind war. So that's kind of the gist of

1037
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:48.400
<v Speaker 3>this whole book. You know, whether it's the ocean, whether

1038
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:50.519
<v Speaker 3>it's water. He even talks about water can be used

1039
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:53.199
<v Speaker 3>against people. I just did an episode about manufacturing and

1040
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:55.800
<v Speaker 3>water and food crisis, and it seems like they're trying

1041
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:58.199
<v Speaker 3>to do that now. And you know, this is part

1042
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:05.559
<v Speaker 3>of that same kind of thing. So this afterward here

1043
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:08.840
<v Speaker 3>it's called The Prince and the Magician. So it says,

1044
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:11.639
<v Speaker 3>once upon a time there was a young prince who

1045
00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:14.519
<v Speaker 3>believed in all things but three. He did not believe

1046
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:17.000
<v Speaker 3>in princesses, he did not believe in islands, and he

1047
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:20.400
<v Speaker 3>did not believe in God. His father, the King, told

1048
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:22.599
<v Speaker 3>him that such things did not exist, as there were

1049
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:27.679
<v Speaker 3>only princesses, islands or islands in his father's domains, and

1050
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:30.320
<v Speaker 3>no sign of God. The young prince believed his father.

1051
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:33.000
<v Speaker 3>One day, the prince ran away from his palace and

1052
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:36.079
<v Speaker 3>he came to the next land. There is, to his astonishment,

1053
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:39.079
<v Speaker 3>from every coast he saw islands, and on these islands

1054
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:41.639
<v Speaker 3>strange and troubling creatures, from whom he dared not name.

1055
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.760
<v Speaker 3>And as he was searching for a boat, a man

1056
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:48.800
<v Speaker 3>in full evening dress approached him along the shore. Are

1057
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:53.199
<v Speaker 3>those real islands, asked the young prince. Of course they are,

1058
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:55.920
<v Speaker 3>said the man in the evening dress. And those strange

1059
00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:59.360
<v Speaker 3>and troubling creatures, well, they are genuine and authentic princesses.

1060
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:03.559
<v Speaker 3>Then God must exist, cried the prince. I am God,

1061
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:05.960
<v Speaker 3>replied the man in full evening dress with a bow.

1062
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:09.519
<v Speaker 3>The young prince returned home as as quickly as he could.

1063
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:12.639
<v Speaker 3>So you were back, said his father the King. I

1064
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.639
<v Speaker 3>have seen the islands, and I've seen princesses. I've seen God,

1065
00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:19.480
<v Speaker 3>said the prince reproachfully, and the King was unmoved. Neither

1066
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:23.440
<v Speaker 3>real islands nor real princesses, nor real God exists, and

1067
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:25.239
<v Speaker 3>he said, I saw them. He said, tell me how

1068
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:28.280
<v Speaker 3>God was dressed. Well, God was in full evening dress,

1069
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:31.480
<v Speaker 3>where the sleeves of his coat rolled back, and the

1070
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:32.760
<v Speaker 3>prince remembered that they had been.

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00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, that is the uniform of a magician. You have

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00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:36.840
<v Speaker 2>been deceived.

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<v Speaker 3>At this, the prince returned to the next land and

1074
00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:42.039
<v Speaker 3>went to the same shore, where once again he came

1075
00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:44.199
<v Speaker 3>upon the man in full evening dress, and he said,

1076
00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:46.719
<v Speaker 3>my father, the king has told me who you are.

1077
00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:51.119
<v Speaker 3>And the young prince indignantly he sat there while he said,

1078
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:54.159
<v Speaker 3>you deceived me the last time, but not again. Now

1079
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:57.079
<v Speaker 3>I know that you are not real in islands and

1080
00:54:57.199 --> 00:54:59.639
<v Speaker 3>real princesses, because you are a magician. And the man

1081
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:02.400
<v Speaker 3>on the show who are smiled. The end of this

1082
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:06.440
<v Speaker 3>is very interesting. It is you who are deceived, my boy.

1083
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:09.639
<v Speaker 3>In your father's kingdom, there are many islands and many princesses,

1084
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:12.480
<v Speaker 3>but you were under your father's spell, so you cannot

1085
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:16.400
<v Speaker 3>see them. And so the prince returned pensively home. When

1086
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:19.239
<v Speaker 3>he saw his father, he looked at him in the eyes. Father,

1087
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:20.639
<v Speaker 3>it is true that you are not a real king,

1088
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:22.920
<v Speaker 3>but only a magician, And the king smiled and rolled

1089
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:26.320
<v Speaker 3>his sleeves back. Yes, my son, I'm only a magician.

1090
00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Then the man on the shore was God. The man

1091
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:32.119
<v Speaker 3>on the shore was another magician. So I must know

1092
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:36.239
<v Speaker 3>the real truth beyond magic. There is no truth beyond magic,

1093
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:39.199
<v Speaker 3>said the king. The prince was full of sadness. He said,

1094
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I will kill myself. The king, by magic, caused death

1095
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:45.079
<v Speaker 3>to appear. Death stood in the door and beckoned to

1096
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:47.719
<v Speaker 3>the prince. The prince shuddered. He remembered the beauty and

1097
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:51.039
<v Speaker 3>the unreal islands and the unreal beauty of princesses. Very well,

1098
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:52.840
<v Speaker 3>he said, I can bear it. And he said, you see,

1099
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:58.119
<v Speaker 3>my son, you too now have become a magician. So

1100
00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:01.079
<v Speaker 3>he faced death and came up. It's this death and

1101
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:04.559
<v Speaker 3>rebirth with like facing death. His dad's a magician. There's

1102
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:07.559
<v Speaker 3>nothing past magician. There's no God. It's only the magician.

1103
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:11.039
<v Speaker 3>He's saying, like, there is no god, it's only man

1104
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:17.719
<v Speaker 3>that becomes God through magic. Very interesting. I mean, that's

1105
00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:19.400
<v Speaker 3>what that's what I took out of that. Did you

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00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:20.480
<v Speaker 3>take anything else oude of that?

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00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:22.000
<v Speaker 2>No?

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00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:24.239
<v Speaker 1>But I think that that's the common theme, like all

1109
00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:27.760
<v Speaker 1>these guys are magicians, Like, that's what he talked about. Exactly,

1110
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:32.679
<v Speaker 1>magic in theory and practice, the ability to change reality

1111
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:35.159
<v Speaker 1>or time and space that can conformance with your own will.

1112
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

1113
00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:38.400
<v Speaker 1>It even goes up to trump like the magician card

1114
00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and all this other stuff like that's he's beyond a liar.

1115
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:47.280
<v Speaker 1>He's like reorganizing reality based upon his words. If you

1116
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:51.000
<v Speaker 1>listen to him, if you stop listening to him, you

1117
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:53.440
<v Speaker 1>realize that he's just trying to get inside your mind,

1118
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:55.960
<v Speaker 1>promote mind war on you.

1119
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Like that's exactly.

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00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:59.840
<v Speaker 1>We're an excursion. It's just, it's just a small war.

1121
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:02.079
<v Speaker 1>Are a little bit of pain now for a lot

1122
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:03.800
<v Speaker 1>of benefit later. It's all just.

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00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:06.719
<v Speaker 3>And as we went over Maga magas, that's the fifth

1124
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:10.000
<v Speaker 3>degree of Satanic church. You know, the writer being cut

1125
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:12.760
<v Speaker 3>is done for the high priest, right, so this is

1126
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:15.960
<v Speaker 3>what the servant has done. I mean, Maga is the

1127
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:18.639
<v Speaker 3>servant of the high priest. So there's nothing above the

1128
00:57:18.679 --> 00:57:22.760
<v Speaker 3>fifth level of Satanism. But above that is always the

1129
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.679
<v Speaker 3>high priestess, who is like who you worship, right, So

1130
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:28.320
<v Speaker 3>that's the depth of it, right, And it's even mentioned

1131
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:30.199
<v Speaker 3>in the Bible. So I think definitely this guy is

1132
00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:33.519
<v Speaker 3>if you know, you know which you know as you.

1133
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Know, like he just keeps going, he keeps going, I'm

1134
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:40.920
<v Speaker 1>a healer, blah blah blah, sacriligious stuff, crazy stuff on

1135
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:44.599
<v Speaker 1>Easter Sunday, no respect from the day, totally like, Oh,

1136
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:48.280
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna and destroy your civilization. Praise be to Allah,

1137
00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Like what the hell is that?

1138
00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, it is a huge It's a.

1139
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Mind work and the mind war precedes the fizz war, Right,

1140
00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:58.400
<v Speaker 1>That's what a kino's thing is. So the battle for

1141
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:03.559
<v Speaker 1>the mind is the predicate yes to standard kinetic warfare.

1142
00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think that you know, Trump is also

1143
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:10.159
<v Speaker 3>pushing people to the real maga quote unquote right, So

1144
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:12.679
<v Speaker 3>he's kind of posing himself. He's kind of putting himself

1145
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:15.119
<v Speaker 3>in the villain position. Doesn't mind being the villain, he

1146
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:17.599
<v Speaker 3>never has. I think he's trying to drive people away

1147
00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:20.119
<v Speaker 3>from him, drive people into the Vance arms, drive people

1148
00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:23.960
<v Speaker 3>into Tucker's arms, drive people into these questioning, questioning arms,

1149
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:27.719
<v Speaker 3>and then you'll get all the mind war syop narratives

1150
00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:29.920
<v Speaker 3>that are being driven by his people.

1151
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:32.280
<v Speaker 2>It's just asymmetrical warfare.

1152
00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:34.920
<v Speaker 1>No question about it. And it goes by I mean,

1153
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:39.840
<v Speaker 1>it's being rolled out against us. For even COVID was

1154
00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:42.440
<v Speaker 1>just a massive global mind war. It has to be

1155
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:45.519
<v Speaker 1>seen as mind war. Like, imagine how powerful that is.

1156
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:49.039
<v Speaker 1>They don't have to do much physical warfare to have

1157
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:52.039
<v Speaker 1>this war against humanity. It's off the charts. They pulled

1158
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:55.280
<v Speaker 1>it off, and then they basically just change the subject like, oh,

1159
00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not important anymore. So they're basically hard, like they're

1160
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>able to literally changed people's perception against their own self

1161
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>preservation like that.

1162
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:10.119
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's insane, and yet it's a matter controlling all

1163
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:12.679
<v Speaker 3>the information, like it said in mind war, and then

1164
00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:16.159
<v Speaker 3>you can sway people your way based off their beliefs

1165
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:16.880
<v Speaker 3>and their actions.

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00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:20.760
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean we've been up against Iran for

1167
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:25.440
<v Speaker 1>forty seven years. We have what I don't even know,

1168
00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:27.679
<v Speaker 1>I Benny, Persians, I don't even know what you're talking about.

1169
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Right, But to them we have been because they gave

1170
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:33.800
<v Speaker 3>an f you to the to the overall global deep

1171
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:37.239
<v Speaker 3>state whenever they left, you know, whenever the what's his

1172
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:39.719
<v Speaker 3>name the Shaw left because he had cancer. They took

1173
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:41.320
<v Speaker 3>their country back from America.

1174
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Seventy nine, they took their country back and the revolution.

1175
00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:45.079
<v Speaker 3>Right, and yeah, we've been at war since. Well, we

1176
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:47.039
<v Speaker 3>didn't know that, but they've been at war. The elites

1177
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:48.519
<v Speaker 3>had been at war with them since because they gave

1178
00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:50.599
<v Speaker 3>a middle finger to them and you don't do that right.

1179
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:52.920
<v Speaker 2>So this is a long time coming for them.

1180
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:56.519
<v Speaker 1>And you know, the average American Iranian is paying twelve

1181
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:59.679
<v Speaker 1>cents a gallon. Guys, that's what the revolution achieved.

1182
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:03.320
<v Speaker 3>People think I'm crazy whenever I say that that this

1183
01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:05.679
<v Speaker 3>war is actually benefiting. I ran more than us, and

1184
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:08.039
<v Speaker 3>then actually China I ran. They're all benefiting off of

1185
01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:11.079
<v Speaker 3>this whole situation over there. People think I'm insane until

1186
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:14.000
<v Speaker 3>I start laying it out and they're like shocked. Yeah, dude,

1187
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.440
<v Speaker 3>they're charging two billion or what is it, two million

1188
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:17.840
<v Speaker 3>dollars a ship that comes through.

1189
01:00:18.280 --> 01:00:19.679
<v Speaker 2>Each barrel is like one hundred fifty.

1190
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:22.960
<v Speaker 3>They're only they're synthetically lowering our prices now because of

1191
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:26.039
<v Speaker 3>our reserves, but our shit's gonna skyrocket soon when our

1192
01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:28.000
<v Speaker 3>reserves are gone. They can't sit here and act like

1193
01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:29.679
<v Speaker 3>the oils cheaper than it is like they are.

1194
01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Now.

1195
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:33.480
<v Speaker 1>The last tanker from the Middle East just showed up

1196
01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:36.760
<v Speaker 1>in California. So once those things stop coming, like the

1197
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:39.960
<v Speaker 1>idiots here like they're just total clowns like it's almost

1198
01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:44.280
<v Speaker 1>like retard level. They there's gas and oil around here,

1199
01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:47.000
<v Speaker 1>they just refuse to drill for it. So that's the

1200
01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:49.880
<v Speaker 1>foundation of all wealth. Really is oil, guys. I'm sorry,

1201
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it is solar power power.

1202
01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:54.519
<v Speaker 3>He's got a new pipeline deal with Canada. But I mean,

1203
01:00:54.559 --> 01:00:56.679
<v Speaker 3>think about how long that'll take to actually get you know,

1204
01:00:57.039 --> 01:00:59.760
<v Speaker 3>you're not we're gonna hate. We're gonna feel it for

1205
01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:01.559
<v Speaker 3>a while before that ever happens.

1206
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.440
<v Speaker 2>It's just a controlled demolition of the global economy.

1207
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.199
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, they're going to make money on the up

1208
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:10.079
<v Speaker 1>down of downside and upside. They're already juicing the market,

1209
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:13.440
<v Speaker 1>so they're controlling the markets for their own benefit, laying

1210
01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:16.239
<v Speaker 1>bets on it, knowing that it's going to go down,

1211
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:18.639
<v Speaker 1>and telling everybody it's going to be all right when

1212
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:21.400
<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's only going to get worse. Guys, you're

1213
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:24.239
<v Speaker 1>the next six months are going to be incredible. People

1214
01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:26.519
<v Speaker 1>have no idea what's coming. Talk about mind war. They're

1215
01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:29.280
<v Speaker 1>going to try to just mind worrying to thinking that

1216
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:32.119
<v Speaker 1>ten dollars a gallon gas is normal.

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01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:35.000
<v Speaker 3>And well, there's there's one hundred thousand flock cameras in

1218
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:37.800
<v Speaker 3>America now versus the twenty thousand and six months ago.

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01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:39.880
<v Speaker 3>For a reason, they've been building them up like crazy

1220
01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:42.480
<v Speaker 3>because this police state is going to be. This police

1221
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.320
<v Speaker 3>state's being built simultaneously with the control demolition of our

1222
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:47.960
<v Speaker 3>global economy because they understand that they can only get

1223
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:49.000
<v Speaker 3>away with this for so long.

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01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:52.760
<v Speaker 1>There's no question. That's why these books are really important.

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01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Like you keep to the importance of these knot books,

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01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:58.000
<v Speaker 1>so I'm glad that you are bringing it to the

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01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:01.000
<v Speaker 1>public's attention. We are at the hour. I know that

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01:02:01.039 --> 01:02:03.280
<v Speaker 1>you said you only had an hour where people will

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01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:05.000
<v Speaker 1>find the six g Agenda.

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01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.039
<v Speaker 2>All platforms you get your podcasts.

1231
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:11.239
<v Speaker 3>We do live streams through YouTube and Patreon multiple times

1232
01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:14.039
<v Speaker 3>a week and all members get those all the time,

1233
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:16.119
<v Speaker 3>and then goes out to the free feed, Spotify, wherever

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01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:16.840
<v Speaker 3>you get your stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>We are there. Six g Agenda. Thank you so much, William.

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01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:21.039
<v Speaker 2>I love doing shows with you.

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01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, likewise, I do too. The podcast is I mean,

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01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:28.480
<v Speaker 1>your Patreon is the same name as your podcast, so

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01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:32.760
<v Speaker 1>it's six g Agenda everywhere. You can probably just type

1240
01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:34.960
<v Speaker 1>in Google six g Agenda.

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01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Yep, and you'll find a link. You'll find a link

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01:02:36.639 --> 01:02:36.920
<v Speaker 2>on my.

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01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:39.639
<v Speaker 3>Bio everywhere you go, for everywhere, and uh you know,

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01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:40.400
<v Speaker 3>wherever you're at.

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01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:43.119
<v Speaker 2>It's a pretty standard sixt g Agenda so awesome.

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01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, Andrew, thanks for your time, Thanks for coming back again.

1247
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:48.519
<v Speaker 1>It's the sixth g Agenda podcast and Patreon. I'll try

1248
01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:50.280
<v Speaker 1>to put links to both of those in there. People

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01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:52.880
<v Speaker 1>check them out and check out these books, they're really worthwhile,

1250
01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:55.079
<v Speaker 1>and check out our earlier shows. This will be our

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01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:59.239
<v Speaker 1>seventh episode. Yeah, definitely, Loper so speaking, thanks for your time.

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01:02:59.239 --> 01:02:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Appreci
