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<v Speaker 1>KF I AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp,

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<v Speaker 1>the House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app

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<v Speaker 1>Cam I AM six forty live streaming in h tod

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere on the iHeart Radio app. Hey, welcome to home where.

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<v Speaker 1>Every week we help you better understand that place where

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<v Speaker 1>you live. I am Dean Sharp, the house Whisperer, custom

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<v Speaker 1>home builder, custom home designer. Most importantly, today, your guide

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<v Speaker 1>to transforming your ordinary house into an extraordinary home. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what I want to do this morning. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about just protecting your house, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>be ordinary or extraordinary. I want you to have the

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<v Speaker 1>chance of transforming your ordinary house into something extraordinary during

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<v Speaker 1>wildfire season here in southern California. So we're gonna we

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<v Speaker 1>had some other plans for this morning, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to take a little time this morning and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>fire hardening your home. Once again, we've done this earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in the year. We try to help you through that

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<v Speaker 1>as much as we can. But then, of course everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>ears and eyes sort of open up when we have

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<v Speaker 1>something happening, like what is happening right now the Mountain

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<v Speaker 1>fire out in Ventura County and a lot of homes

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<v Speaker 1>lost to this fire already. Now hopefully, hopefully the wind

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<v Speaker 1>event that really drove it at the beginning has calmed

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<v Speaker 1>itself and will remain calm. But and right now, CalFire

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<v Speaker 1>reports fourteen percent containment of the Mountain Fire, twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>plus acres burned and a few hundred homes taken. But

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<v Speaker 1>if that changes, then well we know things can change

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<v Speaker 1>very very quickly. So we're going to talk wildfire hardening

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<v Speaker 1>of your home today, appropriate for anybody who lives up

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<v Speaker 1>against open space or within two or three miles of

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<v Speaker 1>open space. And of course we're going to take some

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<v Speaker 1>calls as we do. And when it comes to calls,

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<v Speaker 1>always here on the program, you get to set the agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna talk. I'm going to hand out the best

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<v Speaker 1>wildfire advice I can give you this morning. You can

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<v Speaker 1>call me about anything that's going on with your home,

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<v Speaker 1>anything that's got you scratching your head wondering what do

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<v Speaker 1>I do next, whether it's wildfire related or not. You

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<v Speaker 1>set the agenda and don't be shy, because that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way it always is with calls. Regardless of what I've

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<v Speaker 1>set for the agenda today, you set the agenda when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to your call, so it can be construction,

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<v Speaker 1>diy inside, outside, landscape, hardscape, decor design, whatever the case

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<v Speaker 1>may be. Give me a call. The number to reach

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<v Speaker 1>me eight three three two. Ask Dean eight three three

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<v Speaker 1>the numeral two ask Dean eight three to three to

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<v Speaker 1>ask Dean. The phone lines are open now. We are

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<v Speaker 1>live and ready to roll. Give me a call and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll put our heads together, we'll figure and if we

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<v Speaker 1>do this all right, we're gonna bring some light into

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<v Speaker 1>your morning and we're gonna make you feel glad that

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<v Speaker 1>you were here. I promise you, the team is here

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Sam is on the board. Good morning Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning Dean. How you doing today? I am well.

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<v Speaker 1>I am doing well. And there is our live studio audience.

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<v Speaker 1>More on live studio audience because then just a bit

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about that on the other side of the break.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna give you yet another opportunity to win

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<v Speaker 1>some tickets to our House Whisper Holiday Home show, What's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be happening on November twenty fourth, Sunday the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourth at the KFI Studios in Burbank, And you

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<v Speaker 1>can be a part of it. More on that. In

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<v Speaker 1>just a bit, Producer Lindsey is standing by taking Oh

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<v Speaker 1>she's taking calls right now. Look at that. She's busy

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone. That number again, eight three three to

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<v Speaker 1>ask Dean eight three three two ask dean. Eileen Gonzalez

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<v Speaker 1>is at the news desk. Good morning, Eileen, Good morning Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going? Uh, I'm going. I'm doing pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was a tiring week. I won't uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to pull any punches. It was a busy, busy,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy, wacky week. How about you? Busy, always busy,

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<v Speaker 1>same same, Yeah, Well, weekends. It continues on the weekends,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it It does? Why is that? Well, it's because

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<v Speaker 1>we're lucky enough to have these jobs. I do consider

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<v Speaker 1>us lucky, don't They don't they know that they could

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<v Speaker 1>just the world can just press pause and just just

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<v Speaker 1>let us relax a little on the weekends. But no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Eileen, glad that you're here as always. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Sitting across the table from me, my better half, clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>my design partner, the co owner, the co found owner

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<v Speaker 1>of House Whisper, and just so happens, my best friend

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<v Speaker 1>on planet Earth. Tina is here. Welcome home. How you

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<v Speaker 1>doing good? Yeah? That was a loaded good. Yeah. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot going on. Yeah, that's true. There's

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot going on. All right, So how about this,

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<v Speaker 1>how about we get to it. Yeah, okay, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to hand it some wildfire advice. When all right, on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the news break, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about winning some seats at the House

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<v Speaker 1>Whisper Holiday home show. We'll talk about that and wildfires

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<v Speaker 1>and your calls get fine sharp the House Whisper at

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<v Speaker 1>your service. Ah, well, here we are a Saturday morning

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<v Speaker 1>live here November ninth, twenty twenty four. We have the

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<v Speaker 1>Mountain Fire burning here in southern California, twenty thousand acres

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<v Speaker 1>and fourteen percent contained currently. Thankfully, the wind of that

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<v Speaker 1>really really drove. It has subsided, and I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>any indications that there's anticipation of another one coming soon.

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<v Speaker 1>But so let's keep our fingers crossed on that. But

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of homes lost, a lot of evacuations, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people affected, and a good amount of acreage

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<v Speaker 1>burned from the Mountain fire. And so we are tabling

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<v Speaker 1>our previously planned discussion this morning, so that we can

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<v Speaker 1>just spend some time talking to you about fire hardening

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<v Speaker 1>homes and what you can do. I'm approaching it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit differently because the fire is present right now

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<v Speaker 1>then I normally would where we take an extra amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time on all of the prep I just basically

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<v Speaker 1>want to divide my advice this morning up into two categories. One,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have some time, however much time that is,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that you're not being threatened by a wildfire currently.

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<v Speaker 1>And two, if you don't have much time when you

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<v Speaker 1>find yourself in the situation of facing potential evacuation and

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<v Speaker 1>the like, I just want you to hear the full,

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<v Speaker 1>well rounded advice that you know what your options are.

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<v Speaker 1>So number one, like I've said before many many times

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<v Speaker 1>on the programs, if you have some time, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to take a look at the orientation of your home

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<v Speaker 1>in regards to the open space where wildfires can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, none of this advice is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>excludes your home whether or not you're anywhere near a

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<v Speaker 1>wildfire open space area, because you know structure fires can happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and none of this hurts even if you are embedded

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<v Speaker 1>miles and miles into an urban or suburban environment without

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of open space. But here in southern California,

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<v Speaker 1>there is open space all round us. And it's rare,

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<v Speaker 1>actually that you are more than just a handful of

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<v Speaker 1>miles away from an open space area. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>we've expressed the concern before that we now know embers

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<v Speaker 1>flying from those wildfires can travel four miles two to

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<v Speaker 1>three miles in good conditions, or I should say in

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<v Speaker 1>bad conditions. In the right conditions, I should say, for

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<v Speaker 1>an ember to stay lit can fly a long, long distance.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why when you hear about wildfires starting

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<v Speaker 1>up and threatening neighborhoods and stuff, that quite often the

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<v Speaker 1>first house that begins burning is not even on the

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<v Speaker 1>fire line. It's before the fire line actually reaches the

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<v Speaker 1>edges of residential properties, because attics are sucking those embers

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<v Speaker 1>into their attic open space. And I get asked this

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<v Speaker 1>question all the time, why is it dep that houses

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<v Speaker 1>are designed for addicts to draw embers into them, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's a really, really valid question. It's a question that

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<v Speaker 1>I have been asking myself of the building community for

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<v Speaker 1>a long long time, and it's one that just an

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<v Speaker 1>fyi that I addressed an entire program around earlier this year,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been what I don't know, a couple three months

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<v Speaker 1>or so. Please go onto the podcast and look for

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<v Speaker 1>a New Attic. It's a show on the new Attic.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sure if that's exactly the name. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Tina can look that up and find it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the idea of a conditioned attic space, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>that we're including the attic space in the air conditioned

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<v Speaker 1>and heated air of the house, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>benefits to that. Not only is it nice in the

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<v Speaker 1>attic because of that, but it's also, I make the argument,

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<v Speaker 1>more energy efficient, and when that happens, then we don't

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<v Speaker 1>need and we don't use at events at all, zero

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<v Speaker 1>at events coming into your attic, which means that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about embers crawling into your attic

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<v Speaker 1>during a wildfire. One of the benefits of that is

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that it really fire hardens a home. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that we're going to see in the next decade,

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<v Speaker 1>because there already is a trend moving towards conditioned attic spaces,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly among our clientele and others. I think in the

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<v Speaker 1>next decade you're going to see it become a mainstream

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<v Speaker 1>concept right here in southern California, conditioned attic spaces. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can go and look that up and I discuss

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<v Speaker 1>it in greater details. So find the episode on the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and Tina will have that title force just bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course, the whole idea here is that the

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<v Speaker 1>eighty percent of homes that are ignited as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of wildfire activity are not not homes that are on

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<v Speaker 1>the fire line, homes that are being literally threatened by

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<v Speaker 1>the flames themselves. Oh. There, it is the New Attic

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<v Speaker 1>in June, so you'll find it dated June sixteenth. June sixteenth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the New Attic is the show that we did that

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<v Speaker 1>on to find out about conditioned attic spaces. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you have some time, we need to talk about emberproofing

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<v Speaker 1>your existing attic. Okay, assuming that we're not completely remodeling

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<v Speaker 1>the attic to become a conditioned space, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about emberproofing it. We'll talk about emberproof vents and

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<v Speaker 1>what that means. You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp

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<v Speaker 1>on demand from KFI AM six forty PFI AM forty Live,

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<v Speaker 1>bringing an HD everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You have

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<v Speaker 1>found home with Dean Sharp the house Whisper. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you do feel like your home here on Saturday mornings

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<v Speaker 1>when we are live with you talking about your home

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<v Speaker 1>and everything that makes it special. Trans transforming, transforming, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>transforming ordinary houses into an extraordinary home. That's what we're

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<v Speaker 1>all about this morning. We're talking about wildfires and fire

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<v Speaker 1>hardening your home. So I've divided my advice up into

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<v Speaker 1>two categories. One, if you have some time because you're

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<v Speaker 1>not being threatened by a wildfire currently. Two if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have much time, and what you do in those situations.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've got time, ember proofing the vents in your attic.

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<v Speaker 1>And I already did a big lead up to this,

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<v Speaker 1>so the point is those vents that you find, smaller

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<v Speaker 1>vents around the eaves of your attic down the eaves

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<v Speaker 1>of the roofline. Quite often they are small two inch

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<v Speaker 1>holes with mesh over them. There's a number of different

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<v Speaker 1>ways that attics can be vented over the years, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that's not necessarily the configuration you're gonna find on

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<v Speaker 1>your home. But the idea is this, a well vented

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<v Speaker 1>attic has low vents for drawing in cooler air and

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<v Speaker 1>higher vents up near the ridgeline in order to let

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<v Speaker 1>hot air in the attic out. You may have a

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<v Speaker 1>gabled roof in which there are large gable vents. A

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<v Speaker 1>the vents are in order to fire harden them. If

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<v Speaker 1>As they're being sucked in. It's the convection process in

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<v Speaker 1>quietly vacuuming air around it on any given day as

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<v Speaker 1>heat rises in the attic. So that's the idea. Brands

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<v Speaker 1>out your windows and doors, then consider fire rated windows

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<v Speaker 1>and doors, at least the side of the house that

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<v Speaker 1>windows and doors simply means that those windows and doors

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<v Speaker 1>that face the open space will be switched out to

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<v Speaker 1>a long long time. That's been the case, so that

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't need to shift. But the windows are annealed regular

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<v Speaker 1>fire codes. And a lot of older homes aren't even

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of older homes that already switched out their

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<v Speaker 1>windows don't necessarily have tempered glass windows facing the side

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<v Speaker 1>of threat for the house for fire. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously this is money. Okay, So we're just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>long term. And this is not something you do in

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<v Speaker 1>an emergency, Okay, this is if we've got some time.

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<v Speaker 1>And in addition to this, cleaning up your trees, getting

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do for the life of the tree. We've

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<v Speaker 1>Cleaning up and cleaning out trees in the fall is

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<v Speaker 1>clearing your defensible zone for those of you who are

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<v Speaker 1>usually required by the HOA or your local city or

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<v Speaker 1>the state. And you know, and I always see eye

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<v Speaker 1>rolls on the parts of phoe owners who are like,

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<v Speaker 1>to have this thing. Listen. I don't know if you've

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<v Speaker 1>and get you thinking about it. A wall of wildfire

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<v Speaker 1>flames can be twenty feet tall on a still day, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>when winds are blowing it and exasperating it. Thirty to

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<v Speaker 1>forty foot tall walls of flame okay, coming down the

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<v Speaker 1>hillside or up the hillside towards your neighborhood, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>that wall of flame can pump out well over well

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<v Speaker 1>over one thousand degrees of heat. Okay. So here's a question.

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<v Speaker 1>far away from that wall of flame does a firefighter

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<v Speaker 1>need to stand to effectively defend your home from it?

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<v Speaker 1>When it's forty feet tall and fifteen hundred degrees Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the answer, generally speaking, is three to four times. The

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<v Speaker 1>to effectively fight it. So let's just be moderate and

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<v Speaker 1>say that we've got twenty five foot flames coming up

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<v Speaker 1>the hillside. Okay, three to four times. That means one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred feet away is the ideal, or I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>minimum distance that firefighters want to be away from that

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<v Speaker 1>flame in order to defend your home and your neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what the defensible zone is about. Okay, It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just about not having materials that can burn all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up to your home. It's about giving room

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<v Speaker 1>for the fire department to come in and save your home.

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<v Speaker 1>So clear the defensible zone. That should go without saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I think all right, when we come back, well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about what do you do when you find

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<v Speaker 1>out that you might be right in the path, you

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<v Speaker 1>might be facing evacuation. What if some of these things

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<v Speaker 1>that you could have done ahead of time weren't done

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of time? What do you do? Then? I've got

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<v Speaker 1>some solid advice for you, So go knowwhere your home

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<v Speaker 1>with Dean Sharp the house whisper can't pie Dean Sharp

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<v Speaker 1>the house whisper, Welcome home. We're talking about wildfire hardening

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<v Speaker 1>of your home today, just handing out some advice, pertinent

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<v Speaker 1>advice because of the Mountain fire and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you know it always throws everybody's eyes open to the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that oh yeah, oh yeah, it's fire season time,

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<v Speaker 1>and every time we have a severe wind event, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes and it comes fast and hard and heavy,

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<v Speaker 1>as the Mountain fire did, destroying several hundred homes, earning

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully that's going to grow, assuming that wind events

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<v Speaker 1>So we are talking about fire hardening your home, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dividing it into two sections of advice. The first

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<v Speaker 1>which I've already covered if you've got some time, things

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<v Speaker 1>like changing out your windows and doors to fire rated

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<v Speaker 1>temper glass windows and doors, and ember proofing the events

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<v Speaker 1>for your attic, which you know, I know, I sound

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<v Speaker 1>like a broken record on for those of you who

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<v Speaker 1>It's true. It's just so necessary. Cleaning up your trees

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<v Speaker 1>and clearing the defensible zone. Now we want to turn

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<v Speaker 1>to what if you don't have much time, What if

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<v Speaker 1>you get caught, you know, with your pants down as

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<v Speaker 1>it were, in a fire zone and it's it's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give you that advice, And so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>first bit of advice here we're running a little late

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<v Speaker 1>we'll pick up the other side, and then we are

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<v Speaker 1>taking calls. By the way, eight three three two. Ask

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<v Speaker 1>dean A three to three the numeral two, ask dean.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're on the phone lines, hang tight. I'm coming

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<v Speaker 1>to you, I promise. But the very first thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you can do if you don't have much time is

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<v Speaker 1>number one. Get stuff away from your house before you

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<v Speaker 1>have to leave, before you potentially have to evacuate. Move

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<v Speaker 1>the junk away from the walls of your house, anything,

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<v Speaker 1>anything that could burn, anything that could ignite. Get it

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<v Speaker 1>clear away from the house. I don't know how more

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<v Speaker 1>so to put that. It is simply really really smart

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<v Speaker 1>it back. All right, but move stuff away from the house. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say we haven't ember proofed your vents and you

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<v Speaker 1>are potentially inside the two or three mile radius of

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<v Speaker 1>a wildfire, whether you've been told to evacuate or not.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have your concerns and rightly so, tape them up.

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<v Speaker 1>Tape up your vents. I don't care what you expected.

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<v Speaker 1>To tape up your vents. Put cardboard over them. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>cardboard burns. I'm not talking about the fire line reaching

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<v Speaker 1>your house. We're simply talking about protecting your attic from

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<v Speaker 1>sucking those vents in duct tape, cardboard, whatever you can find.

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<v Speaker 1>Tape up as many of the vents on your attic.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe me, your attic is not going to suffer for

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<v Speaker 1>a few days or a few hours of having the

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<v Speaker 1>them up. I don't want vents, I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want embers getting into your attic, so safely. Okay, don't

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<v Speaker 1>a two story house, But if at all possible, just

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<v Speaker 1>seal those vents up, even temporarily, so you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>that worry. And then, finally, I want to recommend again

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<v Speaker 1>a product. I'm going to do this on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the break Firejel, I wish every one of

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<v Speaker 1>you listening to me right now had fire gel sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in your garage. Some of you are like, what is Firejel,

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<v Speaker 1>What does it do? We'll talk about that right after

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<v Speaker 1>Eileen Gonzalez gives us the news. You're listening to Home

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<v Speaker 1>with Dean Sharp The House Whisper on KFI. You're listening

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