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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting how the psychology of the left is that

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<v Speaker 1>they're still the ones who are rebelling against older conservative parents.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still the ones who are in the position of rebellion.

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<v Speaker 1>There's still the ones who are the put upon little guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and they continue to carry this attitude into times when

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<v Speaker 1>they are in fact the ones in charge, when they

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones culturally dominant, and then when someone criticizes them.

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<v Speaker 1>When they get into the position of cultural dominance, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't see their own youthful rebellions in the people who

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<v Speaker 1>oppose them. They want to crush any resistance with as

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<v Speaker 1>much authoritarianism as their parents tried to crush their authoritarianism.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of liberalism can be explained as continual continuing

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<v Speaker 1>the rebellion against your conservatives parents. There's this piece in

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<v Speaker 1>GV wire that is somewhat infuriating in that light. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is not stuff anyone in public schools is doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the fact that you noticed conflict over race LGBTQ

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<v Speaker 1>issues cost schools more than three billion dollars last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Conflicts between parents, teachers, and school leaders over parental rights

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<v Speaker 1>policies focusing on LGBTQ plus students. I notice the identity.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a this is a big thing. Hey, for

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<v Speaker 1>all you young parents out there, little childhood psychology tip, stop

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<v Speaker 1>assigning static labels to the human beings who, more than

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<v Speaker 1>any other group of human beings, are in a state

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<v Speaker 1>of wild change, development and fluctuation aka children whose brains

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<v Speaker 1>are exploding at a rate far surpassing anything that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to achieve when you're an adult LGBTQ plus students,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about twelve year olds. You don't think some

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<v Speaker 1>stuff might shift around in there so that that label

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<v Speaker 1>might not necessarily be helpful to give a child a

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<v Speaker 1>static identity that this is no, this is the kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Person you are.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, you can you can apply this to

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<v Speaker 1>far less critical questions, things that are far more innocuous,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're when you're eleven year old says to you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just not good at math. I'm just not someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's good at math. Don't know, don't put that identity

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<v Speaker 1>on yourself. You're having a hard time with math right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's fix it. Let's work on it. You're not bad

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<v Speaker 1>at math. You're struggling a little bit right now. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>work on it. Get those times tables out, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>work the problem anyway. Conflicts between parents, teachers, and school

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<v Speaker 1>leaders over parental rights policies focusing on LGBTQ plus students,

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<v Speaker 1>limitations on teaching about race and racism.

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<v Speaker 2>They're what limitations.

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<v Speaker 1>And book bans.

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<v Speaker 2>Book bands.

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<v Speaker 1>When liberals say book bans, what they mean are parents

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<v Speaker 1>complaining about books that are obviously inappropriate for children, asking

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<v Speaker 1>that they be banned, asking that they not be shelved

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<v Speaker 1>in a public schools library. That's what we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>or utilized as part of the public school curriculum, have

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<v Speaker 1>come with a cost, both socially and financially. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is written by this woman, Diana Lambert, for some publication

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<v Speaker 1>called ed Source, which is obviously the whole tone of

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<v Speaker 1>it is obviously showing her. The whole framing of this

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<v Speaker 1>issue is obviously showing a huge bias. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge bias in favor of lgbt stuff, in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>the party line among.

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<v Speaker 2>The NIA teachers' unions, et.

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<v Speaker 1>Cetera, that we want to teach super left wing ideology

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to race, We want to teach super

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<v Speaker 1>left wing ideology when it comes to sex and sexuality.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to be able to keep from parents a

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<v Speaker 1>child's gender transition if they don't want the parent to

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<v Speaker 1>know about it, and we want you not to complain

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<v Speaker 1>about it. That's the real tone, that's the real message

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<v Speaker 1>of this piece.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>The conflicts i e. Parents getting mad about this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>are disrupting school districts, negatively impacting schools and classrooms, and

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<v Speaker 1>costing district's money that could be used to better pay

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<v Speaker 1>off teachers, i mean better serve students. According to quote

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<v Speaker 1>the Costs of Conflict, the fiscal impact of culturally divisive

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<v Speaker 1>conflicts on public schools in the United States are report

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<v Speaker 1>released last month put together by researchers from UCLA, University

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas at Austin American University, and UC Riverside. These

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<v Speaker 1>universities conducted a national survey of k through twelve public

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<v Speaker 1>school superintendents from forty six states, four hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seven superintendents in all, and found that these conflicts are

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<v Speaker 1>prevalent since the twenty twenty twenty twenty one school year.

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<v Speaker 1>Uncivil discourse parents being upset and getting a little over

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<v Speaker 1>the top of a school board meeting, and hostile political

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<v Speaker 1>rhetoric OOH at school board meetings and on school campuses

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<v Speaker 1>has been an ongoing problem. Hostile political rhetoric at school

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<v Speaker 1>board meetings. Forgive me, how are most school board members

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<v Speaker 1>picked in this country?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, they're elected, so ergo.

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<v Speaker 1>The power they wield is a kind of political power.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So when people are talking to them at a school

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<v Speaker 1>board meeting, they are talking to a politician.

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<v Speaker 2>So the kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Rhetoric they use could very well be political rhetoric.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Two thirds of the school superintendent surveyed for the studies

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<v Speaker 1>said they have experienced moderate to high levels of culturally

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<v Speaker 1>divisive conflict in their district. Well, once it goes from

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<v Speaker 1>moderate to high, they.

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<v Speaker 2>How are we measuring this?

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<v Speaker 1>Superintendent surveyed for the studies said they have experienced moderate

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<v Speaker 1>to high levels of culturally divisive conflict in their districts,

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<v Speaker 1>including misinformation campaigns. Who is defining this as a misinformation campaign?

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<v Speaker 1>Does this mean a campaign that is accurate but that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't like, Because that's very often what liberals mean

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<v Speaker 1>when they say misinformation. They mean information that may very

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<v Speaker 1>well be true. Misinformation campaigns, violent rhetoric, okay, and threats.

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<v Speaker 1>Cultural conflicts cost us school districts. About three point two

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars last school year, according to the study. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you may be thinking, wait a minute, Okay, I can

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<v Speaker 1>understand superintendents having, you know, a burr in their butt

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<v Speaker 1>about parents complaining about stuff. Okay, I get that. I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that they'll be upset. How is it costing school

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<v Speaker 1>district money? Also, three point two billion dollars spread over

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<v Speaker 1>how many school districts are there in America? Okay, there's Gazille,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. How many school districts are there all over America?

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<v Speaker 1>And for context, let's remember Fresnoe Unified just this year

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<v Speaker 1>is getting a five hundred million dollar bond. Okay that

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<v Speaker 1>we just voted on Measure H to get Fresne Unified

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<v Speaker 1>a five hundred million dollar bond just for Fresno Unified

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<v Speaker 1>School district located in Fresno, California. So forgive me for

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<v Speaker 1>noticing that three point two billion dollars spread across every

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<v Speaker 1>school district in the United States of America is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a drop in the bucket relatively speaking, But it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like, obviously it's more money than I'm ever going

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<v Speaker 1>to see. People are supposed to read this and think

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<v Speaker 1>that's impressive. But how are they even calculating that parents

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<v Speaker 1>being angry over LGBT stuff, or parents being angry over

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<v Speaker 1>critical race theory stuff. How are we calculating that that

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<v Speaker 1>has a cost?

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<v Speaker 2>You may ask, let us continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Researchers estimate that districts with high levels of conflict spent

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<v Speaker 1>about eighty dollars per student. Okay, well, they're already spending

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty thousand dollars per student in California, so I

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<v Speaker 1>can't say that I'm crying over eighty dollars per student.

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<v Speaker 1>Districts with modern moderate levels of conflict spend fifty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>per student, with districts with low conflict spend twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>dollars per student. Which, again, how we're coming up with

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<v Speaker 1>these numbers. We'll see this is first we just take

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<v Speaker 1>that as a given. This is costing US general fund

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<v Speaker 1>dollars set a superintendent from a mid size school district

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<v Speaker 1>in a western state in the twenty twenty three twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four school year, the district spent an additional one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars on security, hiring armed playing clothes off

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<v Speaker 1>duty officers because people coming to the board meetings are unpredictable.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes violent, such a grotti.

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<v Speaker 2>Assari tour gratti snigatu or moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, gratis assi to a grotti snigata is this fun

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<v Speaker 1>little Latin phrase. If you're just asserting something freely with

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<v Speaker 1>no evidence, I can deny it freely with no evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>What school district was having, like police arrestable violent threats

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<v Speaker 1>being made, we probably would have heard of it. That

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<v Speaker 1>just wasn't happening, that police were arresting people who were

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<v Speaker 1>making threats in school board meetings. Look, I remember at

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<v Speaker 1>the Bakersfield City Counts there was a protester who made

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<v Speaker 1>an actual threat. She didn't realize just how serious her

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<v Speaker 1>conduct was. She made an actual threat. She was arrested

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<v Speaker 1>right there. If that was actually happening in school board meetings,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Okay, so you need more security at

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<v Speaker 1>school board meetings because you have a ton of parents

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<v Speaker 1>who are all really upset. Okay, I'm very sorry that

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<v Speaker 1>you had to spend a little more on that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>parents should be more polite. But allow me to retort.

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<v Speaker 1>If someone on a street corner showed my kid a

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<v Speaker 1>picture from one of the books that these public schools

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<v Speaker 1>liked to use for like to stock in their libraries

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<v Speaker 1>for sex related stuff, sex ed related stuff, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of these books that are by that, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>we dealt with this issue here in Fresno, with the

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<v Speaker 1>whole Presne County Libraries controversy. Steve Brandau's I think heroic

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<v Speaker 1>efforts to do something about it. Some of the books

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<v Speaker 1>that are in the Presne County libraries that are clearly

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<v Speaker 1>designed to be for public school districts. If some random

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<v Speaker 1>guy on a street corners tried to show a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of that to my kid, I would knock that guy's

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<v Speaker 1>lights out, Like, yeah, you need to physically restrain me.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's because what public educators think is good is

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<v Speaker 1>so radically out of step with people, and so radically

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<v Speaker 1>out of step in leading their children whom they love

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<v Speaker 1>astray that it makes people pretty darn angry. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if you need that much security, maybe it's a

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<v Speaker 1>reflection of you on what you are teaching and doing,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than some rising of parents being awful. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's because of security, but what they really say

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<v Speaker 1>it's because of superintendent turnover. That's really what it. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>when you boil it down, what they're saying is superintendents

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<v Speaker 1>are quitting and other school personnel are quitting because parents

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<v Speaker 1>are so upset all the time, and it's stressing these

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<v Speaker 1>people out and they say, I want another job. That's

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<v Speaker 1>actually what's happening here. Which if that's the case, good good.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope people feel uncomfortable when they propose, like pornographic

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<v Speaker 1>material to be shown to twelve year olds in a

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<v Speaker 1>seventh grade health sex ed class. I want people to

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<v Speaker 1>feel uncomfortable if they allow that, I want them to quit.

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<v Speaker 1>I want them to be afraid of not physical violence,

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<v Speaker 1>but be afraid stressed out about parents being really freaking furious.

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<v Speaker 1>They should be that way, because it's horrible. It's evil.

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<v Speaker 1>It is diabolical. And I'm using that not in the

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it is involving the diaboloose, involving the devil

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<v Speaker 1>that I literally mean. It is diabolical to show kids

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of stuff. I think it is diabolical for

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<v Speaker 1>a kid confused about his gender to keep that issue

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<v Speaker 1>from parents, to play this elaborate shell game in which

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand people at Clovis High School are going to

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<v Speaker 1>call this biological boy. She call Michelle instead of Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>This student will come out to three thousand people at

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<v Speaker 1>clubs high school, but we don't tell the parents about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want superintendents to feel really stressed out about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want them to be subject to extreme anger from

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<v Speaker 1>parents at school board meetings. I'm not saying anyone should

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<v Speaker 1>burn anyone's house down. I'm not saying anyone should beat

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<v Speaker 1>anyone up, but this woe is me act from school

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<v Speaker 1>officials like you're especially from school board members. You're elected

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<v Speaker 1>by the people. Deal with it like that. It comes

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<v Speaker 1>with the territory. People are gonna disagree with you really strongly.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's too much heat for you, get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen. We'll talk about this more after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the John Girardi Show here on Power Talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Reading this piece in GV Wire, originally published by It's

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<v Speaker 1>called ed Source kind of an education based publication written

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<v Speaker 1>by Diana Lambert about the costs of culturally divisive issues

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<v Speaker 1>within public school districts LGBT stuff, racial stuff, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>That the idea, the whole tone of it being pretty straightforward.

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<v Speaker 1>It's bad that parents are angry and objecting to the

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<v Speaker 1>extreme liberal ideology that public schools are promoting. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>parent's fault for being upset. Parents should shut up and

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<v Speaker 1>let school districts teach what they want to teach. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like.

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<v Speaker 1>And the study they put together to show this is

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest shambolic nonsense ever saying, oh, culturally divisive issues

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<v Speaker 1>are costing three point two billion dollars to public universities. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>three point two billion dollars spread over every k through

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<v Speaker 1>twelve school district in America. It's not a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, in the grand scheme of things, It's really

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of money. Secondly, the biggest costs they

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<v Speaker 1>identify is turnover. That superintendents are upset and that there's turnover,

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<v Speaker 1>and the costs associated with people quitting, which good. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope people quit. I hope people feel uncomfortable when they

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<v Speaker 1>try to show pornography to twelve year olds and call

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<v Speaker 1>want to quit because parents are so flipp and outraged.

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<v Speaker 1>And this piece starts bellyaching and whining about the mental

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<v Speaker 1>health status of school superintendents. The relentless demands of leading

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<v Speaker 1>a school district can easily overshadow their own well being, which,

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<v Speaker 1>if neglected, not only affects their personal health, but also

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<v Speaker 1>the health and stability of students, educators, and the families

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<v Speaker 1>they served, said Rachel S. White of the University of

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<v Speaker 1>Texas at Austin in a statement. Reducing the extent to

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<v Speaker 1>which superintendents experience warranted divisiveness is an important step to

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<v Speaker 1>change the trajectory of increasing superintendent sure by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the increase over the last four years, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think there was something other than culturally divisive

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<v Speaker 1>issues that may be caused more stress for superintendents over

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<v Speaker 1>the last four years? Obviously COVID the increase was two

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<v Speaker 1>point nine percent fourteen point two percent turnover to seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>point one percent turnover for K through twelve public school

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<v Speaker 1>district superintendents. That's not that big of an increase. The

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<v Speaker 1>probably margin of error there is such that it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even I don't know, the turnover doesn't seem that much higher.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, let me, you're the superintendent of a school district.

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<v Speaker 1>big job. Yeah, you're gonna be stressed out. Put your

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<v Speaker 1>big point, put your big boy pants on, put your

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<v Speaker 1>big girl pants on and do the freaking job. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>belly ach to me about oh my mental health state.

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<v Speaker 1>Then quit, Then quit, get a different job. Sorry. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're managing an entity with a budget of at least

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<v Speaker 1>tens of millions of dollars, I guess I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>here for a mid size school districts annual budget, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to look up, like what's Resident Unified's budget? I

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<v Speaker 1>know they got five hundred million dollars in one shot

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<v Speaker 1>from a school bond measure. You're managing hundreds of millions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars. You're managing dreds and hundreds and hundreds of personnel.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're managing multiple schools. Yeah, you're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>stressed out. That's what the money is for. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>get paid a lot to be overseeing all this stuff. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>you're appointed by politically accountable, a politically accountable board of

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<v Speaker 1>directors whom they need to hear it from voters. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be stressed out. Superintendents who were surveyed

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<v Speaker 1>expressed concern that the time they spend managing cultural conflict

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<v Speaker 1>include and this is all this is a great line

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<v Speaker 1>including responding to Freedom of Information Act requests and unsubstantiated

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<v Speaker 1>rumors and misinformation is keeping them from focusing on improving instruction. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>those damn pesky freedom of information requests. So what this

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<v Speaker 1>Foyer the Freedom of Information Act was this piece of

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<v Speaker 1>federal legislation that basically says, hey, government should be transparent

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<v Speaker 1>if something isn't like classified or sensitive material, the public

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<v Speaker 1>know about communications between federal employees.

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<v Speaker 2>It has a right to know.

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<v Speaker 1>About blah blah blah blah. And so people can file

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<v Speaker 1>a Freedom of Information Act request, a Foyer request for

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<v Speaker 1>information about Hey, we're personnel within the Department of Transportation

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<v Speaker 1>discussing blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a federal employee, you need to, you know, send

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<v Speaker 1>a Foyer request. Similarly, state governments have mandated similar things

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<v Speaker 1>for state institutions, patterned off of the federal FOYA law.

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<v Speaker 1>So school districts are subject to this. I've done this

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<v Speaker 1>with President Unified globes unified, and I've said, hey, can

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<v Speaker 1>you show me I'd like to submit a public records

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<v Speaker 1>request for I want to see what information you have

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<v Speaker 1>about bump up Bah bah bah.

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<v Speaker 2>They give it to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done this with the City of Fresno. I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like information about this grant, this pass through grant

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<v Speaker 1>that the city is giving to Planned parenthood, got information

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<v Speaker 1>about it, talked about it on the radio, so that

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<v Speaker 1>they're bellyaching about the fact that they have to be

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<v Speaker 1>transparent to the public. You're a public official, and this

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<v Speaker 2>This is the longest short of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Your whole job is spending the public's money, and you

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<v Speaker 1>complain about the public. Your whole job is receiving the

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<v Speaker 1>Just this culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Attitude among educators.

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<v Speaker 1>That they are that they should just be immune to

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<v Speaker 1>criticism from parents who don't like them, that they are experts,

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore, how dare you criticize their curriculum decisions, their

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<v Speaker 1>credential that they're somehow an expert on whether a boy

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<v Speaker 1>can become a girl or a girl can become a boy.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to shut up. And the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>make me stressed out about it. It's actually you're You're

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<v Speaker 1>the one at fault here, not me, for trying to

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<v Speaker 1>show your kid pornography and calling it sex head. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the attitude of so much of the education establishment in

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<v Speaker 1>this country. And at the very least the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>needs to cut off money. State at least red state

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<v Speaker 1>governments need to cut off money. They got to resort

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. And God help us in California when

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<v Speaker 1>we return the news about jay Z and how me

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<v Speaker 1>too missed some obvious targets. Next on The John Gardy Show,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when the story about p Diddy came out.

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<v Speaker 1>For those who don't by the way, for I want

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<v Speaker 1>there with me, all right, Just hang in there with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be mentioning a story involving rappers whom you

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<v Speaker 1>about rap also will probably not care about these people.

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<v Speaker 1>They have stupid stage names. I'm going to talk about them,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's gonna be interesting, Okay, So hang in there

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<v Speaker 1>it first, all right. A couple of months ago, Sean Combs,

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<v Speaker 1>who has gone by various rap stage names over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>Puff Daddy p Diddy, was arrested in connection to sex trafficking,

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<v Speaker 1>being charged of sex trafficking. Word came out about these

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<v Speaker 1>in I think it was in New York, which were

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<v Speaker 1>just basically orgies. I think that's a fair characterization of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Of what these parties were. They were orgies, and that

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<v Speaker 1>basically there were the women were being trafficked for these parties.

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<v Speaker 2>Also that he was engaged in all kinds of same.

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<v Speaker 1>Sex sexual activity. He turns out he was an enormous deviant.

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<v Speaker 1>When the Feds went into his home to arrest him,

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<v Speaker 1>sure what all that's about. Sounds pretty gross whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Now for context, Sean Combs is like a gazillionaire and

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop, if you will, has been for decades, for

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<v Speaker 1>about thirty years. I'd say he was a big time producer.

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<v Speaker 1>He did a bunch of songs himself. He dated Jennifer Lopez,

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<v Speaker 1>he was hosting these huge parties at all these celebrities

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<v Speaker 1>would go to. Another person in the New York hip

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<v Speaker 1>name jay Z. You may have heard of jay Z

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<v Speaker 1>because of his coziness with the Obamas. Jay Z is

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<v Speaker 1>and p Diddy, that Sean Carter and Sean Combs raped

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<v Speaker 1>a thirteen year old girl in the year two thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Jay Z has released a public statement about this.

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<v Speaker 2>The Me too movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the idea behind the Me Too movement was that

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<v Speaker 2>I also was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Victim of an act of sexual assault, and whether that's

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<v Speaker 1>an actual act of rape to some slightly lesser form

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<v Speaker 1>of sexual assault to just sexual harassment. I think one

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<v Speaker 1>like actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Raping people.

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<v Speaker 1>All the way to on the other end of the spectrum,

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<v Speaker 1>defending it, but it's you know, ten miles different from

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<v Speaker 1>enormous power imbalance, power dynamic imbalance, where you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you get out of a White House internship? A

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<v Speaker 1>wreck letter from the President looks pretty damn impressive on

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<v Speaker 1>anyone's application for anything. So what am I going to

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<v Speaker 1>get fired if I don't, you know, accede to this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's demands. I'll use some FCC compliant language here, am

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<v Speaker 1>I gonna? Am I gonna get fired if I don't

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<v Speaker 1>sexually pleasure this man? What are we doing here? And

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<v Speaker 1>people have you know, thirty years too late, twenty something

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<v Speaker 1>years too late, I've started to say, hey, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>that was really messed up what Bill Clinton did, and

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of raises some questions about just how meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>the consent Monica Lewinsky could have possibly given in.

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<v Speaker 2>That context was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a real thing. I think. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really important thing to think about. Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think consent is the end all be all, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think consent is very flimsy. This is why you

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<v Speaker 1>have these liberals and libertarian types are like, oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>could legalize prostitution, and that's fine. Legalized prostitution. Really, someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's in such a desperate situation that they resort to

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<v Speaker 1>selling the only thing they have left to them, their body,

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<v Speaker 1>You think that's free and meaningful consent. Then liberals will

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<v Speaker 1>try it, Well, this person's a sex worker and that's

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<v Speaker 1>dignified work and we should really respect. No, no, we

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't sex work. In one nanosecond, can go from oh,

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<v Speaker 1>i'm then you know, fully consensually engaging in an act

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<v Speaker 1>of prostitution too, Oh my gosh, I'm being raped in

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<v Speaker 1>one nanosecond. So the idea of consent being the end

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<v Speaker 1>all be all of sexual ethics. Obviously it is a

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<v Speaker 1>necessary element of sexual ethics, but I do not think

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<v Speaker 1>it is a sufficient element. I think the only way

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<v Speaker 1>to look at sex in a way that is sexually

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<v Speaker 1>ethical is to look at it for what it ought

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<v Speaker 1>to be, a free exchange of life giving love that

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<v Speaker 1>has long term consequences to it. Then long term consequences

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<v Speaker 1>that should be good and should be appreciated and should

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<v Speaker 1>be positive, and can only meaningfully be a good thing

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<v Speaker 1>in a context of a probably ideally lifelong, committed relationship

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<v Speaker 1>i e. Marriage. The contraceptization of marriage and sexuality that

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<v Speaker 1>our culture's experience, the contraceptionization of sex that our culture

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<v Speaker 1>has experienced, has led us to forget. No. Sex is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be something that has lifelong consequences. It's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be something that inherently requires commitment, and commitment of

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<v Speaker 1>a lifelong nature, you know, because a new human being

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<v Speaker 1>can be produced by it. I think contraception is completely,

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<v Speaker 1>in an unhealthy way, warped our whole perception of sex.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the left, because they assume they think of

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<v Speaker 1>sex as a consequence three free activity, the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>they care about is consent. But if consense your only thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It provides such a weak defense against non consensual activity. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So the me too movement wound up taking down some

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<v Speaker 1>richly deserving targets, the Harvey Weinstein's of the world, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cosby's of the world, but it seems like it

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<v Speaker 1>missed a whole category of other people, rappers and rock

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<v Speaker 1>and roll guys, probably a lot of athletes too. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I would always laugh at how like liberal like pop

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<v Speaker 1>culture journalists would like glowingly talk about, Oh man, what

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<v Speaker 1>a cool ladies man. You know, either Wilt Chamberlain was,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, these guys from this rock and roll

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<v Speaker 1>band who are doing tons of drugs and sleeping with

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of ladies and having you know, twelve girls

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<v Speaker 1>come backstage after every show on the tour bus. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, rappers celebrate this kind of thing constantly all

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<v Speaker 1>the time in every single hip hop song, especially as

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<v Speaker 1>gangster rap has kind of receded a bit since the nineties. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what are rapper's going to talk about that? Well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about money and girls, and we celebrate these people

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<v Speaker 1>for their women. But we just think, yep, this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>a cool guy. He's having tons of six and doing

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<v Speaker 1>lots of drugs, and every time he has sex, he

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<v Speaker 1>receives clear, meaningful consent from a sober woman that she's

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<v Speaker 1>willingly and meaningfully having consensual sex and that she's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>not seventeen because he checked her ID beforehand. No, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>any guy who's living that kind of lifestyle probably had

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<v Speaker 1>non consensual sex with somebody. So the fact that jay

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<v Speaker 1>Z and Sean Combs are being at least acute of

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<v Speaker 1>Seawan Colmbs pretty credibly. Jay Z seems to be one accusation.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that people are finally being accused of these

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<v Speaker 1>things is like the least surprising thing in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably a reckoning on this should have come a long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago. When we return prizingly great movie A Muppet

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Carol. My review. Next on The John Girardi Show. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend my house was a house of sickness. Four

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<v Speaker 1>of my five children threw up, so Holly and I

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<v Speaker 1>were up late taking care of all these people. We

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<v Speaker 1>felt completely fine. I still feel completely fine. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>my that's the death sentence right there. So everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>just a bunch of sickies. Was no good and this

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<v Speaker 1>is why we don't let them watch a lot of TV.

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<v Speaker 1>We sort of reserve it for weekends like this when

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is sick and we turned on a Muppet Christmas Carol. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>was not expecting it to be that good. Was phenomenal,

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<v Speaker 1>was very funny. And Michael Caine, who plays Ebenezer Scrooge,

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<v Speaker 1>plays it one serious, gives it everything. Michael Caine's got.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the performance of a lifetime. Do yourself a favor.

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<v Speaker 1>Go watch them up at Christmas Carol. You will laugh,

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<v Speaker 1>you will cry. Holy cow, what a great movie. Thirty

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<v Speaker 1>you know, forty years too late here, but what a

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<v Speaker 1>great movie. That'll do it. John Girardi show, see you

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<v Speaker 1>next time on Power Talk
