Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. One of the most interesting and disturbing topics
when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein is Zoro Ranch. And
now we're learning that a new whistleblower has sent pictures
of alleged burial sites to New Mexico lawmakers. And on
its face, that seems to be the kind of evidence
that could blow things open, right, I mean, actual evidence
that girls were killed at Zoro Ranch. That would blow
this whole thing open. But I'm going to caution everybody,
like usual, to not jump the gun. We have no
idea who sent this email, who sent the photos, or
if it's even real, and considering the concerted effort to
continue to confuse people when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein,
I remain super cautious and guarded when it comes to
evidence that allegedly points to something like this. Now, with
that said, that doesn't mean that I don't believe that
there are graves on this property. I think that it's
a very good possibility. And as you all know, I'm
not somebody that really buys in to all the conspiracy nonsense.
I don't think you need to here. I mean, there's
enough disturbing information, enough salacious information that's verifiable that I
have no idea why people want to dive down rabbit
holes that have no end, unless, of course, those people
are trying to confuse you, because there's a lot of
that out there. So when I say be cautious, that's
what I mean, be very, very cautious of falling into
the trap of following your confirmation bias. Just because you
want something to be real doesn't mean that reality is
going to cooperate. And that's why for me anyway, if
there's something that fits with my confirmation bias, those are
the issues that I try to remain the most skeptical
about because I don't want to fall into the trap. Right.
Oh well, I already believe this, so let's find the
evidence that fits what I believe already. And I think
a lot of people fall into that trap. I know
I have in the past, But when it comes to
this case, I think that the most important thing is
to follow the evidence wherever that evidence takes you. So
in this episode, we have an article from International Business
Times and the headline Epstein Files whistleblower claims grave like
plots were spotted at Zoro ranch as FBI faces questions.
This article was authored by Krisnell Longino. A whistle blower
has claimed to have discovered grave like plots at Jeffrey
Epstein's former Zoro ranch in New Mexico, sharing photos with
state lawmakers investigating the late financier. The images, which have
not been independently verified, reportedly shows several dug up burial
sites on the property. Now, look, that sounds disturbing, right,
but we have to keep in mind that it could
be other things, as an animal buried there. Did somebody
bury a pet dog? You know, things like that. Right,
we have to ask all the questions. And if you're
going to investigate something, you have to turn over every rock,
shake every bush, and kick in every door. And that
obviously was never done here. The revelation comes amid renewed
attention on Epstein's activity and raises fresh questions about the
FBI and other authorities handling of evidence linked to the
controversial estate. What evidence. Nobody rated the estate. Not one
single federal officer showed up there, kicked in the door,
waved the four to four or anything similar. And for
those of you who have been listening since twenty nineteen.
You know exactly how crazy I went when that news broke.
I mean, it was so insane to me that I
had to go down to Zorro Ranch myself. And I'm
not exactly what you would call a journalist, especially back then,
but I knew something was up, and I knew something
was wrong, and I still know something is wrong now.
If that means that there's bodies that are buried there,
I don't know, but I do know that we don't
even have clothes to anywhere near the whole story when
it comes to what was going on at Zoro Ranch.
The tipster, whose identity has been redacted, reportedly broke into
the ranch in twenty twenty and discovered multiple plots they
believe had been used for burials. They sent the images
to Democratic representatives Andrea Romero and Marianna Anaia last month,
along with an email stating that the sites appeared to
have bodies removed. Look very possible. I'm not going to
sit here and tell you that this is BS, because
I don't think it is. I think that weird stuff
was happening at that ranch, and I think most of
us understand that when people are having rough sex things
can go south. One of these dudes might have been
choking a girl or something. Who knows. I don't want
to speculate too far, but a lot of things can
go wrong. And then, of course there is the more
in nefarious idea that they were murdered on purpose, right,
that it wasn't an accident. So until we have more evidence,
I'm not going to close the door on any of it.
To be honest with you, I realized that this might
be illegal, the tipster wrote, but men like that don't
deserve the protection of the law. Romero, who had a
bipartisan commission investigating Epstein in New Mexico, forwarded the correspondence
to Kyle Hartzock, director of Special Investigations at the state
Department of Justice, who assured her that the tip was
being looked into. Well, can we get some confirmation on that?
Can we get an update, because I really just don't
believe that the government gives a shit. Now, hopefully it's
going to be different with the state led investigation here
in New Mexico, But we have to understand that there's
a lot of pieces in play, and there's a lot
of rich people, powerful people in New Meca Ago who
want this to go away. The new claims add to
the scrutiny of the FBI and other agencies involved in
the Epstein investigation. Critics note that multiple tips and warnings
about the Zoro Ranch have emerged over the years, yet
authorities have said that they could not find corroborating evidence.
One anonymous tip from twenty nineteen claimed that Epstein and
Galaine buried two foreign girls on the property and offered
videos of alleged abuse for payment in bitcoin. Yo, Like
what now? Again? We have to keep in mind that
there are a lot of people out there that will
look to try and exploit a situation like this, and
they'll say they have this or that the other thing,
try and get some bitcoin and scan people. So I'm
not saying that all of this is one hundred percent
or that it's true, but I feel like all of
it has to be explored. And that's because of the
next negligence that we've seen throughout the whole entire process.
The authorities have not earned the benefit of the doubt.
So in my opinion, every single tip must be investigated,
no matter how small or large. Public reaction online has
highlighted frustration over the perceived lack of accountability. One social
media user wrote, bro I can't believe that they've been
tipping the FBI off for years and the FBI still
has the audacity to say they couldn't find any evidence.
Others warned that the evidence may have already been destroyed,
as the property has changed hands and landscaping work has
already reportedly been completed. Well, that's part of it, right,
and it just so happens that mister Huffines ends up
buying the land. Huh. I guess it's just another coincidence.
State authorities have acknowledged receipt of the tip, but have
been cautious about providing additional details. Romero told Al Jazeera,
we will get details on the veracity of any claims
as we conduct our investigation. I can't provide any additional
context or clarification regarding the email that you're referencing, and
I would expect this to be the kind of response
we get, because if they have an investigation going, they
don't want to jeopardize it by possibly polluting a journey
pool or tipping somebody off, So I don't expect them
to be forthcoming with actual granular details. Aneya and Hartsock
did not respond to her request for comment, and the
photos have not been independently verified by journalists. So that's
what I'm saying about being cautious. Don't take this as canon, right.
We don't know yet, but it's certainly a possibility and
certainly something that merits further discussion on the podcast and
certainly in New Mexico. Last month, New Mexico State Attorney
General Ronald Torres or a reopening of inquiries into the
ranch following the release of the latest tranch of Epstein
files by the US Department of Justice. These files included
references to the property and unverified claims about Epstein's conduct,
renewing public interest in the investigation. Well, I think the
public was never informed in the first place. That's the problem.
If the legacy media would have told the truth from
the beginning, this would have been a whole different story.
Experts warned that verifying such claims may be difficult due
to the size of the property and the potential for
evidence to have been removed or destroyed. Online commentators have
speculated about the use of incinerators or other methods for
disposing of remains, while others suggested that modern tools like
drones with ground penetrating radar and cadaver dogs could assist investigations. Oh,
there's no doubt. But you have to have a general area, right.
It's a gigantic property. So you get a basic area,
you grit it off and you start looking. Now, is
that what they're going to do? I hope so, because
that's the way you find evidence if you're really looking.
Moving a body is one thing, but getting every last
trace is an entirely different matter. One analyst noted. The
main thing is the ranch is so big that could
work for or against a cover up. It's entirely possible.
Even the people who buried the bodies don't know where
they are. Authorities are reportedly considering these challenges as they
review the tip and plan the investigative approach. The alleged
grave like plots at Zorro Ranch, combined with years of
whistleblower tips and the controversial history of Epstein's activity, have
created a complex, intense backdrop for the ongoing investigation. A
state and federal authorities continue to review evidence. The public
and lawmakers alike are waiting for answers at what occurred
at the new Mexico estate. So look, Hopefully this investigation
gives us some more answers, because one thing I know
for sure, we have only begun to scratch the surface
of what Jeffrey Epstein was up to at Zoro Ranch.
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