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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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Epstein Chronicles. One of the most interesting and disturbing topics

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when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein is Zoro Ranch. And

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now we're learning that a new whistleblower has sent pictures

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of alleged burial sites to New Mexico lawmakers. And on

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its face, that seems to be the kind of evidence

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that could blow things open, right, I mean, actual evidence

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that girls were killed at Zoro Ranch. That would blow

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this whole thing open. But I'm going to caution everybody,

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like usual, to not jump the gun. We have no

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idea who sent this email, who sent the photos, or

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if it's even real, and considering the concerted effort to

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continue to confuse people when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein,

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I remain super cautious and guarded when it comes to

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evidence that allegedly points to something like this. Now, with

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that said, that doesn't mean that I don't believe that

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there are graves on this property. I think that it's

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a very good possibility. And as you all know, I'm

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not somebody that really buys in to all the conspiracy nonsense.

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I don't think you need to here. I mean, there's

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enough disturbing information, enough salacious information that's verifiable that I

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have no idea why people want to dive down rabbit

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holes that have no end, unless, of course, those people

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are trying to confuse you, because there's a lot of

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that out there. So when I say be cautious, that's

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what I mean, be very, very cautious of falling into

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the trap of following your confirmation bias. Just because you

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want something to be real doesn't mean that reality is

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going to cooperate. And that's why for me anyway, if

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there's something that fits with my confirmation bias, those are

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the issues that I try to remain the most skeptical

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about because I don't want to fall into the trap. Right.

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Oh well, I already believe this, so let's find the

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evidence that fits what I believe already. And I think

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a lot of people fall into that trap. I know

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I have in the past, But when it comes to

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this case, I think that the most important thing is

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to follow the evidence wherever that evidence takes you. So

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in this episode, we have an article from International Business

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Times and the headline Epstein Files whistleblower claims grave like

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plots were spotted at Zoro ranch as FBI faces questions.

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This article was authored by Krisnell Longino. A whistle blower

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has claimed to have discovered grave like plots at Jeffrey

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Epstein's former Zoro ranch in New Mexico, sharing photos with

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state lawmakers investigating the late financier. The images, which have

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not been independently verified, reportedly shows several dug up burial

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sites on the property. Now, look, that sounds disturbing, right,

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but we have to keep in mind that it could

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be other things, as an animal buried there. Did somebody

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bury a pet dog? You know, things like that. Right,

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we have to ask all the questions. And if you're

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going to investigate something, you have to turn over every rock,

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shake every bush, and kick in every door. And that

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obviously was never done here. The revelation comes amid renewed

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attention on Epstein's activity and raises fresh questions about the

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FBI and other authorities handling of evidence linked to the

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controversial estate. What evidence. Nobody rated the estate. Not one

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single federal officer showed up there, kicked in the door,

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waved the four to four or anything similar. And for

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those of you who have been listening since twenty nineteen.

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You know exactly how crazy I went when that news broke.

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I mean, it was so insane to me that I

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had to go down to Zorro Ranch myself. And I'm

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not exactly what you would call a journalist, especially back then,

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but I knew something was up, and I knew something

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was wrong, and I still know something is wrong now.

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If that means that there's bodies that are buried there,

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I don't know, but I do know that we don't

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even have clothes to anywhere near the whole story when

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it comes to what was going on at Zoro Ranch.

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The tipster, whose identity has been redacted, reportedly broke into

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the ranch in twenty twenty and discovered multiple plots they

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believe had been used for burials. They sent the images

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to Democratic representatives Andrea Romero and Marianna Anaia last month,

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along with an email stating that the sites appeared to

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have bodies removed. Look very possible. I'm not going to

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sit here and tell you that this is BS, because

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I don't think it is. I think that weird stuff

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was happening at that ranch, and I think most of

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us understand that when people are having rough sex things

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can go south. One of these dudes might have been

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choking a girl or something. Who knows. I don't want

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to speculate too far, but a lot of things can

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go wrong. And then, of course there is the more

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in nefarious idea that they were murdered on purpose, right,

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that it wasn't an accident. So until we have more evidence,

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I'm not going to close the door on any of it.

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To be honest with you, I realized that this might

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be illegal, the tipster wrote, but men like that don't

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deserve the protection of the law. Romero, who had a

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bipartisan commission investigating Epstein in New Mexico, forwarded the correspondence

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to Kyle Hartzock, director of Special Investigations at the state

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Department of Justice, who assured her that the tip was

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being looked into. Well, can we get some confirmation on that?

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Can we get an update, because I really just don't

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believe that the government gives a shit. Now, hopefully it's

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going to be different with the state led investigation here

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in New Mexico, But we have to understand that there's

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a lot of pieces in play, and there's a lot

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of rich people, powerful people in New Meca Ago who

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want this to go away. The new claims add to

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the scrutiny of the FBI and other agencies involved in

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the Epstein investigation. Critics note that multiple tips and warnings

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about the Zoro Ranch have emerged over the years, yet

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authorities have said that they could not find corroborating evidence.

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One anonymous tip from twenty nineteen claimed that Epstein and

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Galaine buried two foreign girls on the property and offered

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videos of alleged abuse for payment in bitcoin. Yo, Like

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what now? Again? We have to keep in mind that

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there are a lot of people out there that will

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look to try and exploit a situation like this, and

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they'll say they have this or that the other thing,

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try and get some bitcoin and scan people. So I'm

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not saying that all of this is one hundred percent

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or that it's true, but I feel like all of

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it has to be explored. And that's because of the

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next negligence that we've seen throughout the whole entire process.

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The authorities have not earned the benefit of the doubt.

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So in my opinion, every single tip must be investigated,

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no matter how small or large. Public reaction online has

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highlighted frustration over the perceived lack of accountability. One social

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media user wrote, bro I can't believe that they've been

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tipping the FBI off for years and the FBI still

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has the audacity to say they couldn't find any evidence.

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Others warned that the evidence may have already been destroyed,

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as the property has changed hands and landscaping work has

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already reportedly been completed. Well, that's part of it, right,

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and it just so happens that mister Huffines ends up

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buying the land. Huh. I guess it's just another coincidence.

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State authorities have acknowledged receipt of the tip, but have

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been cautious about providing additional details. Romero told Al Jazeera,

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we will get details on the veracity of any claims

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as we conduct our investigation. I can't provide any additional

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context or clarification regarding the email that you're referencing, and

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I would expect this to be the kind of response

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we get, because if they have an investigation going, they

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don't want to jeopardize it by possibly polluting a journey

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pool or tipping somebody off, So I don't expect them

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to be forthcoming with actual granular details. Aneya and Hartsock

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did not respond to her request for comment, and the

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photos have not been independently verified by journalists. So that's

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what I'm saying about being cautious. Don't take this as canon, right.

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We don't know yet, but it's certainly a possibility and

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certainly something that merits further discussion on the podcast and

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certainly in New Mexico. Last month, New Mexico State Attorney

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General Ronald Torres or a reopening of inquiries into the

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ranch following the release of the latest tranch of Epstein

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files by the US Department of Justice. These files included

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references to the property and unverified claims about Epstein's conduct,

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renewing public interest in the investigation. Well, I think the

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public was never informed in the first place. That's the problem.

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If the legacy media would have told the truth from

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the beginning, this would have been a whole different story.

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Experts warned that verifying such claims may be difficult due

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to the size of the property and the potential for

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evidence to have been removed or destroyed. Online commentators have

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speculated about the use of incinerators or other methods for

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disposing of remains, while others suggested that modern tools like

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drones with ground penetrating radar and cadaver dogs could assist investigations. Oh,

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there's no doubt. But you have to have a general area, right.

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It's a gigantic property. So you get a basic area,

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you grit it off and you start looking. Now, is

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that what they're going to do? I hope so, because

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that's the way you find evidence if you're really looking.

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Moving a body is one thing, but getting every last

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trace is an entirely different matter. One analyst noted. The

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main thing is the ranch is so big that could

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work for or against a cover up. It's entirely possible.

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Even the people who buried the bodies don't know where

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they are. Authorities are reportedly considering these challenges as they

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review the tip and plan the investigative approach. The alleged

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grave like plots at Zorro Ranch, combined with years of

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whistleblower tips and the controversial history of Epstein's activity, have

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created a complex, intense backdrop for the ongoing investigation. A

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state and federal authorities continue to review evidence. The public

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and lawmakers alike are waiting for answers at what occurred

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at the new Mexico estate. So look, Hopefully this investigation

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gives us some more answers, because one thing I know

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for sure, we have only begun to scratch the surface

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of what Jeffrey Epstein was up to at Zoro Ranch.

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All the information that goes with this episode can be

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found in the description box.