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Speaker 1: descriptions of physical and sexual violence against adults, children, and animals.
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Speaker 2: Hi everyone, I'm Tanya and I'm Teleah and we are
Speaker 2: Crimes and Consequences, a true crime podcast.
Speaker 3: Hey Shannon, Hey girl, how are you.
Speaker 2: I am doing pretty good.
Speaker 3: It's Monday, Yay, start of a new week. Oh and
Speaker 3: it's Halloween this week.
Speaker 2: That's right, HALLOWEENI who are.
Speaker 3: You gonna have a lot of kids?
Speaker 2: You think, Oh, yeah, my neighborhood, like people come from
Speaker 2: other neighborhoods, and oh, like they park in it doesn't bother.
Speaker 2: I know some people are all uppity about it, like
Speaker 2: alle shouldn't do that. But you know what, my family
Speaker 2: used to do that because where I grew up there
Speaker 2: was no houses across the street. It was woods and
Speaker 2: the houses in between were like a quarter mile. So
Speaker 2: my parents would take me to the rich ass neighborhoods.
Speaker 3: Yes, as good parents do.
Speaker 2: Exactly, So I don't mind, you know, so by buy
Speaker 2: an extra three bags of candy, like, for fuck's.
Speaker 4: Sake, just exactly. It is one night, keep the kids safe.
Speaker 4: So I'm kind of glad. I don't get to go
Speaker 4: out and where I live more of like space depart.
Speaker 4: So the neighbor told me, I'm like, should I get some?
Speaker 3: And she's like, no, we're good.
Speaker 4: I was like all right, because I was gonna unscrew
Speaker 4: my bald anyway. I I like my evening's quiet, and
Speaker 4: I like.
Speaker 2: You know you don't have a lot of kids in
Speaker 2: your neighborhood though, do you.
Speaker 3: No, not really at all. It's an older crowd.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, so, well.
Speaker 3: Can you got girl?
Speaker 2: What you're gonna bring is I have a very interesting case.
Speaker 2: It's about a man named Michael Wayne Jones Junior.
Speaker 3: Uh oh yeah, no, Wayne's.
Speaker 2: I know those three names right figure. His crimes are
Speaker 2: heinous and I'm just gonna warn everybody there is violence
Speaker 2: against children in this one, so everybody's warned before we
Speaker 2: get into it. Just want to remind everyone to hit
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Speaker 2: I will start off by telling you that. On September sixteenth,
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, police officers responded to a car crash in
Speaker 2: the city of Hiccock, which is in Brantley County, Georgia.
Speaker 2: The vehicle was being driven by Michael Wayne Jones Junior,
Speaker 2: and his car was a white Chrysler pacifica like mini van.
Speaker 2: You remember those, right?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: It was the only car that was involved in this accident. Like,
Speaker 2: he basically crashed it. And when police responded to the crash,
Speaker 2: nobody was prepared for what Michael had to say about
Speaker 2: his wife, Casey and his children. Michael wasn't from Brantley County, Georgia.
Speaker 2: He actually crashed as he was making a long drive
Speaker 2: from Summerfield, Florida, which is where he lived, and that's
Speaker 2: about sixty miles from Orlando. Okay, So when he had
Speaker 2: crashed the mini van, he had driven already about one
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty miles. In Summerfield, Florida, Michael lived in
Speaker 2: a house that he shared with his wife, Casey, who's
Speaker 2: thirty two at the time, and their four shared children.
Speaker 2: There were Michael's two step sons, nine year old Cameron
Speaker 2: Bowers and four year old Preston Bowers, and then his
Speaker 2: two biological children with Casey. His daughter's two year old
Speaker 2: were Cali and eleven month old I Am. Okay, so Casey,
Speaker 2: let me tell you a little bit about her. She
Speaker 2: was almost a Chris miss Baby born December twenty third,
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six to her parents, Nikki and David, and
Speaker 2: she was born in Goshen, Indiana. I think that's how
Speaker 2: you say it. Before she was a stay at home mom.
Speaker 2: She graduated from Elkhart Memorial High School in two thousand
Speaker 2: and five, and she had moved to Florida about a
Speaker 2: decade before the murder. I mean, I really can't blame
Speaker 2: her from leaving Indiana in.
Speaker 3: The Midwest going to sunny Florida, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: She had a twin brother who passed away, and she
Speaker 2: had two sisters, Brandy and Sarah. She also had two
Speaker 2: half brothers and three half sisters. After her parents separated,
Speaker 2: they got remarried to other people. Casey was known to
Speaker 2: be a beautiful person both inside and out, and friends
Speaker 2: spoke really highly of her. I always wonder what people
Speaker 2: would say about me if I were to die. I
Speaker 2: wonder if they'd be like, oh, she was such an asshole.
Speaker 3: Stop it.
Speaker 4: No one would say that you are hilarious.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she was. She laughed, she made me laugh.
Speaker 3: She was so helpful. Oh my gosh, she was so
Speaker 3: lit up a room. Jop, you are so I would
Speaker 3: be a little concerned. I'd be like, well, what was I.
Speaker 4: Going through at the time. I'm not excusing my behavior.
Speaker 4: I I'm a fucking delight. I'm a sweet heart to
Speaker 4: the core.
Speaker 2: Okay, as I told my husband, I am charming as hell.
Speaker 2: So you know, Riz, I've.
Speaker 4: Been waiting for everybody to invent a word almost as
Speaker 4: cool as me.
Speaker 3: Riz, Riz Sam. But then I am bot so glass in.
Speaker 2: Your modest yes. So Casey was always there for her
Speaker 2: loved ones in their time of need. Her children were
Speaker 2: the lights of her entire world. She was a great
Speaker 2: mom who would do absolutely anything in everything for her kids.
Speaker 2: When Casey and Michael first met, he was married to
Speaker 2: his first wife, Sarah. Sarah was working at the Mount
Speaker 2: Dora Veterinary Hospital, which is in Orange County, Florida. When
Speaker 2: Sarah was working as the receptionist, she told her boss
Speaker 2: that she and her husband were eventually going to be
Speaker 2: moving to Vermont to be closer to her mom because
Speaker 2: he couldn't find any work. So this was about seven
Speaker 2: or eight years prior to the murders. I'm going to
Speaker 2: tell you about. The owner of the VAT hospital wanted
Speaker 2: to keep Sarah, so he hired Michael too to be
Speaker 2: a veterinary technician.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, yeah, he does a lot about Sarah too.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you when you told said Casey's name,
Speaker 4: I just got such great vibes from the name and
Speaker 4: just yeah what you had said about I think her,
Speaker 4: oh her birthday. Yeah, I'm like cap as soon as
Speaker 4: she said it, So you actually did the Capricorn but
Speaker 4: very cool.
Speaker 2: And eventually Casey was also hired as an employee at
Speaker 2: the VAT Hospital and that's when she and Michael started
Speaker 2: seeing each other behind Sarah's back. You know, you can't
Speaker 2: stay what you love, though, Shannon. When Sarah, I know.
Speaker 2: When Sarah found out about this affair, she immediately asked
Speaker 2: Michael for a divorce, and during the divorce, Michael moved
Speaker 2: in with the owner of the vet hospital, which that
Speaker 2: was a little odd.
Speaker 3: Wow, I think so too, of course, Sarah. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't like betrayal it all. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: He ended up staying with the owner of the vet
Speaker 2: hospital until many fabricated lies were found out about Sarah
Speaker 2: and she was terminated and then his job was also
Speaker 2: terminated at that same time. What yeah, so they both lost.
Speaker 3: Oh she so Sarah is not this sweet girl.
Speaker 2: No, Sarah is. I don't know who was lying about Sarah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I don't know. Yeah, I don't know who was
Speaker 2: doing it, if it was Michael or what. Anyway, back
Speaker 2: to the crash. Okay, when police responded to his car crash,
Speaker 2: Michael said some really eerie words. He said, quote, you
Speaker 2: may want to put me in handcuffs because there's a
Speaker 2: dead body inside the vehicle. So the police are like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck? And so they waste no time putting
Speaker 2: him in handcuffs and they put him in the police cruiser.
Speaker 2: They then obviously searched the van and they discovered something really,
Speaker 2: really gruesome. In the back of the van. They found
Speaker 2: a large plastic storage bin, like a big giant rubber maid,
Speaker 2: and when it was open, they found Casey's remains, which
Speaker 2: had been in the storage bin for two months.
Speaker 3: Oh, oh my god. Can you can you say the smile?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm gonna talk about that later. Yeah, can
Speaker 2: you imagine? Like so, after finding Casey dead in the
Speaker 2: storage container, Michael confessed and he said he'd not only
Speaker 2: murdered Casey, but also they're shared for children.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Two days prior to crashing the mini van, Casey's mom, Nikki,
Speaker 2: called for a welfare check, and this is like September fourteenth. Sadly,
Speaker 2: there was a missing person's report that was filed at
Speaker 2: this time, and the report it's been like six weeks,
Speaker 2: six weeks since the last time, like NICKI really talked
Speaker 2: to Casey, like physically talked to her. So I'm not
Speaker 2: sure what the hold up was. Actually I do know,
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you a little bit about it later.
Speaker 2: But Nicki filed this after she couldn't get a hold
Speaker 2: of Casey during these six weeks. The report included Casey's description.
Speaker 2: She was five foot eight, she weighed about one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty pounds, and she had blonde hair and blue eyes.
Speaker 2: And a little further down the report was the information
Speaker 2: on her four children and their dates of birth, and
Speaker 2: then a description of the Chrysler PACIFICA van and the
Speaker 2: missing person's report was distributed to other law enforcement agencies
Speaker 2: the following day, September fifteenth. So, following up on the
Speaker 2: missing person's report, police went to check on the family
Speaker 2: home in Summerfield, Florida, that same day, that September fifteenth.
Speaker 2: They discovered nobody was home. The house was emptied and
Speaker 2: it clearly smelled of decomposition. Oh yeah. The local news
Speaker 2: did an interview with Casey's mom, Niki, like right around
Speaker 2: this time, and she said, quote, I've never been so scared.
Speaker 2: They the police, meaning the police, don't know where she's at.
Speaker 2: They went to the house and she's gone. The house
Speaker 2: is empty end quote. She was just really terrified, you know,
Speaker 2: obviously that something had happened to Casey and the kids.
Speaker 2: And the interviewer asked about our grandkids. Nicki stated, quote,
Speaker 2: they're my whole world. They're just like my kids. I
Speaker 2: don't know what I would do without any of them.
Speaker 2: I want them home safe. And her initial call was
Speaker 2: placed because she was petrified that Michael may have calmed
Speaker 2: Casey or the kids. So that's what really prompted her,
Speaker 2: because she's like, something's not right right. So the cops
Speaker 2: go to check on this house and they smell the
Speaker 2: decomposition coming from the home, and they contact the landlord.
Speaker 2: The landlord told police that the eviction process had already
Speaker 2: come out against Michael and Casey, and the cops went
Speaker 2: inside to search the residents. The police department put out
Speaker 2: a release stating that they were looking for Michael and
Speaker 2: for any information on the whereabouts of his family members
Speaker 2: since the house just reeked of death, but I mean
Speaker 2: it was bad. The police went over to speak with
Speaker 2: Michael and Casey's neighbors, who did say that Michael appeared,
Speaker 2: you know, to be on some sort of drug or
Speaker 2: under the influence of something when they last saw him.
Speaker 2: The neighbors also said they really didn't know the Jones
Speaker 2: family all that well because they mostly kept to themselves.
Speaker 2: One neighbor was actually contacted by the property manager and
Speaker 2: he was asked to walk through the house with him
Speaker 2: because of the terrible smell. At that time, nothing had
Speaker 2: been taken or removed from the house all like when
Speaker 2: this guy did the walkthrough, like all personal items had
Speaker 2: been untouched. Really yeah, and he had described it kind
Speaker 2: of like the smell was of something dead.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 2: The following day, the family minivan was seen in the
Speaker 2: driveway and it was gone later that afternoon and everything
Speaker 2: in the house was gone.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: When the eviction notice had started, Initially, Casey's phone had
Speaker 2: been contacted, but the landlord was told she had nothing
Speaker 2: to do with Michael any longer, and if he needed
Speaker 2: to speak about the eviction further, then the landlord would
Speaker 2: need to contact Michael. And I'm not sure who this
Speaker 2: is on the phone, and I'm not climbing, but the
Speaker 2: landlord was never able to get in touch with Michael.
Speaker 2: When the wellness check was done, the landlord was on
Speaker 2: the phone with officers. The officers told him that he
Speaker 2: could revoke the privilege of being inside the home at
Speaker 2: any time. While on the phone, the landlord told them
Speaker 2: that a cleaning service had been called and some small
Speaker 2: repairs had been completed. They found dark red stains, and
Speaker 2: they found a gallon sized container of cleaning products. Some
Speaker 2: of the baseboards showed a discoloration in comparison with the rest,
Speaker 2: and the responding officers what repairs had been done by
Speaker 2: the cleaning service At this time. I guess the landlord
Speaker 2: got a little spooked and he revoked their privileges of
Speaker 2: being in the house. So they left immediately and the
Speaker 2: keys were placed back inside the lock box. And then
Speaker 2: the police had to get a search warrant eventually, and
Speaker 2: when they did, Major Crimes was called and the house
Speaker 2: was considered a crime scene. Right they found a mop
Speaker 2: and bucket that still contained a fluid in it. Located
Speaker 2: in the living room, so the bucket was tested for
Speaker 2: DNA and evidence was gathered from that specifically, and they
Speaker 2: figured it was clear. You know, maybe Michael tried to
Speaker 2: clean up too, because some of the vinyl flooring was
Speaker 2: cut out from the house since there appeared to be
Speaker 2: like bodily fluids that leaked out soaking it. That was
Speaker 2: in a spare bedroom. Base boards were also soaked with
Speaker 2: bodily fluids in the northeast corner of the spare bedroom.
Speaker 2: There was an initial.
Speaker 3: Gross hold on one thing.
Speaker 4: And I'm just trying to comprehend because when you had
Speaker 4: me that she was in a bucket or that's the
Speaker 4: rubber maid. Yeah, and now if Mom's already called six
Speaker 4: weeks ago, so you just figure it's been around that
Speaker 4: time she's been gone at least, like just in our
Speaker 4: business of true crime podcasts, I'm just going to jump
Speaker 4: and say, as soon as Mom felt something, then that's
Speaker 4: when Casey was probably already gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, if it's been six weeks and in this she's
Speaker 4: got to be decomposing in a p to a liquid bite,
Speaker 4: I would imagine, you know, when you told me, I
Speaker 4: was just like, oh my.
Speaker 2: Gosh, Yeah, there has, I mean six weeks and the smell.
Speaker 3: Have you smelled death before? Girl? No?
Speaker 2: Thank god?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: Okay, Like how they say you just don't forget it
Speaker 4: and it is so putrid and like I don't even
Speaker 4: know if that isn't the putrid acrid imprint on your brain,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: And this is like when he crashes, it's like mid September,
Speaker 2: so six weeks before that, it's like July in Floyda, in.
Speaker 4: Florida, and he's living with the smell. Yeah, of surmise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's disgusting, right, Oh, I'm sorry, No, it's okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There was an initial interview or interrogation that Michael had
Speaker 2: with the detectives, and during this initial interview or interrogation,
Speaker 2: Michael would confess some pretty creepy details. The interview was
Speaker 2: done on the same day as the crash. Michael spoke
Speaker 2: with authorities to explain what was going on. He said
Speaker 2: that the night he killed Casey, which was July tenth.
Speaker 3: Twenty nineteen, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: They had been arguing and I guess she supposedly reached
Speaker 2: for a baseball bat that was near a recliner like
Speaker 2: in the I guess in the living room, and he
Speaker 2: said that she broadsided him, or she poked him, or
Speaker 2: she did something with it. Casey had no criminal record
Speaker 2: and there were no reports of Michael being violent with
Speaker 2: her in the past. Casey's sister, Sarah pleaded with her
Speaker 2: to leave Michael like in the past before this night,
Speaker 2: because I guess she had told Sarah that Michael had
Speaker 2: been violent. There were signs of physical abuse, but she
Speaker 2: stayed with Michael because she loved him, and probably because
Speaker 2: of the kids, and probably because she was a stay
Speaker 2: at home mom and she, you know, she might have
Speaker 2: felt trapped. I don't know. I'm not trying to speak
Speaker 2: for her, but I can imagine. And according to some reports,
Speaker 2: Michael was an ex marine, and it seemed that she
Speaker 2: needed the bat kind of to defend herself. Maybe, you know,
Speaker 2: that's what her family initially thought. According to Michael, he
Speaker 2: and Casey get into this argument and after or during
Speaker 2: she accuses him of cheating on her. While she was
Speaker 2: accusing him inside the home in Summerfield, she has this
Speaker 2: metal bat in her hand, and as it gets more heated,
Speaker 2: she pokes him. That sets him off. He grabs the
Speaker 2: baseball bat out of her hand and he whacks her
Speaker 2: in the hud with it. He then proceeds to pummel
Speaker 2: her to death by repeatedly bashing in her head with
Speaker 2: this aluminum baseball bat.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: And after she was dead, Michael moved her body, placing
Speaker 2: it inside a plastic storage bin and he put the
Speaker 2: spin in the back of his closet in the home.
Speaker 2: And according to Michael in one of his interrogations, the
Speaker 2: kids were asleep when this happened, so they were home.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: So now that she's out of the way, Michael decides
Speaker 2: he needs to get rid of the kids that weren't
Speaker 2: biologically his, which is Cameron and Preston. So for the
Speaker 2: next two weeks, Casey's body remained in the closet, and
Speaker 2: during these two weeks, her two sons went to spend
Speaker 2: time with their biological father. His name was Richard Bowers,
Speaker 2: and it was getting toward the end of the summer,
Speaker 2: so it's before the start of the next school year.
Speaker 2: They go to see their dad for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Ayana and Mrcali were sent to see their grandmother, Nikki,
Speaker 2: you know Casey's mom, So they were gone for a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, and when the four kids came back
Speaker 2: home to live with Michael, they had no idea what
Speaker 2: Michael had planned for them. The next morning, before school,
Speaker 2: Michael walked into Cameron's room, ripped him from his bed,
Speaker 2: and strangled him to death. Sadly, according to the police report,
Speaker 2: he kneeled on Cameron's chest to stop him from breathing
Speaker 2: and screaming while he used his hands for manual strangulation
Speaker 2: throughout the entire ordeal. Preston was asleep in the next room.
Speaker 2: Cameron's lifeless body was then placed into a suitcase while
Speaker 2: he took care of Preston. So Michael had exerted a
Speaker 2: lot of strength to kill Cameron, and his hands were
Speaker 2: really sore like afterwards, like boo fucking who, So he
Speaker 2: thought it was best to just like chill that full
Speaker 2: day and night so he could regain his strength to
Speaker 2: be able to kill Preston. Although Preston's like four, So
Speaker 2: I don't know how much strength you really need, but
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I've never killed anybody, I guess, so.
Speaker 4: It does take quite a bit of strength to I mean,
Speaker 4: they make it look like it's super easy to strangle someone.
Speaker 2: To death, I know, And it takes a while with.
Speaker 4: Your bare hands. It takes eight fucking a lot. I mean,
Speaker 4: it really does make sense with even if he's nine. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and he's a psychopath anyway, Yeah, I'd imagine he's getting
Speaker 4: some kind of fucking who even knows what he's thinking?
Speaker 2: Number one?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, And this is just fucking sick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as a marine, it seems like that would be
Speaker 4: how he killed his son.
Speaker 3: Or a step son. Would be a way to silently
Speaker 3: kill some an enemy, right, something that he would have
Speaker 3: learned in the Marines.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's possible, right, So, and I just kept wondering,
Speaker 2: like why didn't Preston ask where Cameron was the next day?
Speaker 2: But I don't know, he's four, you know, Michael made
Speaker 2: up some bullshit, I'm.
Speaker 4: Sure, Oh yeah, for the four year olds is totally
Speaker 4: gonna believe.
Speaker 2: Right, trust, yes, exactly. And I think they're like, where's mom?
Speaker 2: That's what I would think too. But anyway, so the
Speaker 2: following night, he goes into Preston's room to kill him.
Speaker 2: Upon honering his room, he puts a zip tie around
Speaker 2: the little boy's neck. He later confessed that he thought
Speaker 2: of using the zip tie after he struggled to kill Cameron.
Speaker 2: After placing the zip tie, he carried Preston into the bathroom.
Speaker 2: He then placed his body into the tub, put a
Speaker 2: rag in the drain, and then drowned Preston under the
Speaker 2: running bathtub faucet while pulling on the zip tie.
Speaker 4: He's a fucking cont God, damn, this is so disgusting.
Speaker 3: It's just so right. What a trigger.
Speaker 2: And he's got time, he's got time to think about this.
Speaker 2: Thank you could have stopped himself, Like, okay, maybe you
Speaker 2: snapped and killed Casey. Not that it's okay, but you know,
Speaker 2: over this heat of passion shit, you know, but the
Speaker 2: kids like, why don't you just send the boys to
Speaker 2: see their dad again? I don't want the fuck right,
Speaker 2: I don't eat.
Speaker 4: This is fucking sociopath shit, motherfucker. Oh tan, I just
Speaker 4: want them, you know, like the eye for eye shit's
Speaker 4: coming out real strong, right right.
Speaker 2: So Michael is telling the police during this interrogation that
Speaker 2: the timing around Cameron and Preston visiting their dad. The
Speaker 2: boys were gone for about two weeks to spend some
Speaker 2: time with their dad, you know, before school started again.
Speaker 2: They were brought back home on their scheduled drop off day,
Speaker 2: and they met at a common meeting place, which was
Speaker 2: a mall, like a local mall. Michael said that for
Speaker 2: a while, Richard, the boy's father, lost contact with everyone,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, like, over the years, maybe I basically
Speaker 2: fell off the face of the earth, is how Michael
Speaker 2: described it, like for a few years. Richard eventually got
Speaker 2: visitation rights, but they were unsure if they were court
Speaker 2: ordered at the time. That you know, Michael's telling the
Speaker 2: story right when the boys go to visit their dad.
Speaker 2: The girls were home with Michael and they go to
Speaker 2: Nicky's and then they come home after their visit and
Speaker 2: they were enrolled to start their next school year, but
Speaker 2: they never made it because they were also murdered. Michael said.
Speaker 2: He claimed that he thought about turning himself in before
Speaker 2: he killed his daughters, but apparently he decided against it
Speaker 2: since he really wasn't caught until he crashed that van.
Speaker 4: And then, yeah, yeah, but you wanted to share your
Speaker 4: thought about it.
Speaker 5: Eat a dick fuck, I know, right, Yeah, Remember I
Speaker 5: told you it took Nicky about six weeks to do
Speaker 5: this welfare chock and the missing person's report.
Speaker 2: Well, I think what contributed to it was Michael had
Speaker 2: Casey's smartphone and he would use it to keep her
Speaker 2: friends and family, you know, thinking that she was still alive.
Speaker 2: He confessed to texting people pretending to be her, and
Speaker 2: he even went as far as to post on Facebook
Speaker 2: using her profile, Oh my gosh, what a psycho Casey is.
Speaker 2: Older sister, who was named Sarah, actually called the police
Speaker 2: to report that she had been seeing some alarming things
Speaker 2: on her sister's Facebook page after she gotten a hold
Speaker 2: of an officer who was working the case. Sarah said
Speaker 2: that she would talk to Casey at least once every
Speaker 2: two weeks, depending on, you know, what was going on
Speaker 2: in their lives. The weird thing was she hadn't heard
Speaker 2: from Casey since August twenty sixth, and the only thing
Speaker 2: she actually saw from her sister was a post that
Speaker 2: you know, supposedly Casey made on her own profile about
Speaker 2: losing everything.
Speaker 3: So you know, that was August.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was at the end of August. So since
Speaker 2: Casey had been dead since light tenth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to map out.
Speaker 2: This, Yes, like six weeks. Her family had no idea
Speaker 2: she wasn't the one texting and posting on Facebook to
Speaker 2: make things even more worrisome for Sarah. Casey's oldest son's
Speaker 2: birthday had gone by and so did Sarah's, and Casey
Speaker 2: didn't reach out in regard to either one of them
Speaker 2: on their birthdays or like post about her son, didn't
Speaker 2: wish Sarah a happy birthday, So Sarah knew that something's
Speaker 2: wrong because Casey always posted about birthdays on Facebook. Right
Speaker 2: a few weeks prior to the missing persons report, Nikki
Speaker 2: had gotten a text from Casey's phone. The text message
Speaker 2: was Michael, because Casey was dead by this time, asking
Speaker 2: if she could watch the girls for a while. Nicki
Speaker 2: later said that Michael was bying time and he was
Speaker 2: using Casey's phone to do so. When Nicky agreed to
Speaker 2: watch the kids, she was expecting to see her daughter
Speaker 2: at the drop off, but since she was already dead,
Speaker 2: Michael was the one who left the kids with Nicki.
Speaker 2: A few days prior to the original pickup date, Michael
Speaker 2: again texted from Casey's phone and asked Nicky if she
Speaker 2: could watch the girls for a few more days. She
Speaker 2: of course agreed to. I don't know why he just
Speaker 2: didn't leave them but yeah, you know, Throughout the entire
Speaker 2: time she was watching the girls, Nicky had zero communication
Speaker 2: with Casey, verbal or otherwise, and since this was highly unusual,
Speaker 2: alarm bells had already started going off and Nicky's head,
Speaker 2: but she waited to act on it because she's probably thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, everything's fine, you know. So she was stunned
Speaker 2: after Michael came alone again to pick up the girls
Speaker 2: without Casey, especially after the text messages all came from
Speaker 2: Casey's phone. When it was time for the boys to
Speaker 2: come home from their dad's house, Michael used her phone
Speaker 2: to communicate with Richard to make it seem like Casey
Speaker 2: was still alive. He eventually confessed to smashing her phone
Speaker 2: and throwing it into a dumpster. Richard later called the
Speaker 2: police after seeing a Facebook post. The post was an
Speaker 2: announcement asking that anyone called the Marion County Police Department
Speaker 2: if they had any information. When he called the police,
Speaker 2: he was actually asking for more information about his ex wife,
Speaker 2: since to his knowledge, there was nothing wrong, because I
Speaker 2: think it might have been something about her like the
Speaker 2: missing prit He and Casey never kept in constant contact
Speaker 2: with one another, but they would communicate from time to
Speaker 2: time using a cell phone app for their child custody agreement.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Richard told officers that it was really alarming to him
Speaker 2: since Casey had not posted anything on Facebook since the
Speaker 2: end of August, and she would post at least once
Speaker 2: a day. I like how the social media like you know,
Speaker 2: people's habits, right.
Speaker 3: Why it's a good way to keep tabs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. After speaking with Sarah and Richard, a bolo,
Speaker 2: which is beyond the lookout, was sent out for the
Speaker 2: white Chrysler PACIFICA. Richard Bowers did end up calling the
Speaker 2: police department again and he left a voicemail upon the
Speaker 2: returned call. Richard had quite a bit to say about
Speaker 2: Michael's treatment toward Cameron, specifically during the time that Richard
Speaker 2: had the boys in July and again in August. Cameron
Speaker 2: actually told him that Michael was physically abusive toward him
Speaker 2: and Preston. He also noted that he and Casey fought
Speaker 2: a lot, like he told his dad, you know, mom
Speaker 2: and Michael fight a lot, and that the fights between
Speaker 2: Casey and Michael were almost every single night. Cameron told
Speaker 2: his dad that these fights would go on for hours
Speaker 2: and they eventually became physical. Wow, yeah, Richard, let the
Speaker 2: officers know that Michael beat Cameron and Preston with close
Speaker 2: hangers whenever he got angry.
Speaker 3: I hate, I know, as if there was a measure.
Speaker 4: Do you think that Casey's mom he had a feeling?
Speaker 4: You know, in abusive relationships, you have this timecy to
Speaker 4: portray like old's not as bad as it seems, right,
Speaker 4: Just this is just a spat, This is just a
Speaker 4: phase moms.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I think she knew something was off.
Speaker 4: Something, Yeah, I was, you know, like but hoping like
Speaker 4: because because if you go after as a momy, you're like,
Speaker 4: I hate this fucker. Well guess how tighter she's gonna
Speaker 4: hold on to him?
Speaker 2: Right, So you got to help.
Speaker 3: And be all like, okay, because of my.
Speaker 4: Daughter, you getting or getting a huge blessing, which is
Speaker 4: my acception, you know, or I'm holding my tongue because
Speaker 4: it's just.
Speaker 2: I wonder too, like did Sarah, her sister, ever say
Speaker 2: anything to their mom, Like was she like, oh, Keitha
Speaker 2: told me, you know, such and such, Like I wonder
Speaker 2: if they were if they had that kind of relationship
Speaker 2: or if it was just something wonder and Sarah, But yeah,
Speaker 2: Ni Nicky knew something was wrong, and you know, I
Speaker 2: think when stuff like this happens, you think, Okay, there's
Speaker 2: got to be a logical explaination, right, Like it can't
Speaker 2: be the worst. Like you know, of course you're gonna
Speaker 2: think the worst. Like that's always where my mind goes, like, Oh,
Speaker 2: she's dead, right, But you're you're like, okay, no, she's
Speaker 2: it's probably okay. She's just busy the school, yeah, starting
Speaker 2: you know, she's getting whatever ready for the kids, and
Speaker 2: you know she just hasn't had time to call or
Speaker 2: you know whatever. But then when Michael shows up again,
Speaker 2: like to pick up the kids, I'd be like, what.
Speaker 3: Like why am I keep seeing you? But I'm not
Speaker 3: hearing enough from my daughter?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we're going on, you know.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: Richard also said that Michael had a warrant out for
Speaker 2: his arrest a few years prior to the disappearances, and
Speaker 2: the incident that led to that was it happened in
Speaker 2: Orange County. Michael burglarized his place of work, that veterinary hospital.
Speaker 2: That's probably why he got fired, so when he warrant
Speaker 2: was still out on him. Richard said that Casey rented
Speaker 2: out a storage unit and kept Michael in there so
Speaker 2: police couldn't find him. Casey really loved Michael, I mean,
Speaker 2: and it was pretty clear that she would have done
Speaker 2: anything for him, regardless of how she was treated. I mean,
Speaker 2: she was really loyal in that way.
Speaker 3: Oh so poisonous to her.
Speaker 4: I mean, you can call it loyalty, right, And I'm
Speaker 4: not bashing her at all. It's just what happens in
Speaker 4: these very hard you know, where a bigger heart, but
Speaker 4: then someone else has a more manipulative, right, harmful, but
Speaker 4: you have no Yeah, like you said, like you don't
Speaker 4: think it's as bad as your first ping pong thought
Speaker 4: of going to the worst somewhere in an acceptable medium,
Speaker 4: you know, a digestible medium.
Speaker 3: This is like I'm vomiting all this up, you know, in.
Speaker 4: A angry way, for the kids and for her.
Speaker 3: I know, it's just the kid.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that piece should I know. So Michael
Speaker 2: waited two whole weeks before he killed his two daughters,
Speaker 2: so he had a shit ton of time.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, exactly decided not thinking about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So somewhere around August twenty third, he was served
Speaker 2: in eviction notice, so he knew his time's running out
Speaker 2: like the clock is ticking for how long he has
Speaker 2: to be there. He eventually drowned Murcallay and Ayana, just
Speaker 2: as he did to Cameron. And after Michael killed his
Speaker 2: five family members, he packed their bodies into individual plastic toats,
Speaker 2: put them in the white mini van and he left
Speaker 2: them there. So he knows he's going to be kicked out,
Speaker 2: so he is trying to come up with a plan,
Speaker 2: like what is he going to do? So on September one,
Speaker 2: Michael drove to visit his first wife, Sarah, and I'm
Speaker 2: not sure why, but police spoke with his ex wife.
Speaker 2: Sarah confirmed that she never saw Cameron, Preston, mrcalli, or
Speaker 2: Ayana when he came to visit. He came alone. She
Speaker 2: also said that Michael's older son that he had with
Speaker 2: her commented that the white minivan smelled like dead animals. Oh,
Speaker 2: the bodies are still in the minivan like when he
Speaker 2: goes to visit them, and he tried using a cleaning
Speaker 2: spray and mothballs to mask the smell of their decomposing bodies.
Speaker 2: During one of his interrogations with police, Michael was told
Speaker 2: that the decomposition could be smelled as far away as
Speaker 2: fifty feet. That's quite a bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He then asked if anyone spoke to Michael about the smell, like,
Speaker 2: you know, dude, did anybody mention it? When you were.
Speaker 4: Anybody address slopping as a marine? I would think he
Speaker 4: had a little experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's visiting his ex wife and his older children, Like,
Speaker 2: did anybody mention it? And He's like, no, nobody ever
Speaker 2: said a word to him about the smell. Michael was
Speaker 2: asked if he could smell anything, could you smell it?
Speaker 2: And Michael said, well, once you got up to it,
Speaker 2: like right before you opened a container, you could smell it.
Speaker 2: But he claimed, you know, you couldn't smell it. He
Speaker 2: did say there were flies flying around everywhere, so he
Speaker 2: would spray a fly spray, like a killing spray around
Speaker 2: to help mask the smell and to get the flies out.
Speaker 2: When the police asked him, you know, why did you
Speaker 2: kill Casey, he said their marriage had been falling apart
Speaker 2: for quite some time, and then he said, quote, it
Speaker 2: just got worse, like little things all the time with her.
Speaker 2: She would come at me and we'd argue it never
Speaker 2: it never really got physical. Quote, yeah, Oh it's her fault.
Speaker 2: It's her fault. She came at him all the time.
Speaker 2: She's just about right, you know. She learned that she
Speaker 2: wouldn't leave alone.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, try to hold him accountable. Get a job, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you get a job. Can you support the house?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. The detective moved on from that discussion and
Speaker 2: asked Michael to explain why he killed not only Casey,
Speaker 2: but her kids and his own two little girls. He's
Speaker 2: trying to get Michael to open up about his reasoning
Speaker 2: behind it all. The detective told him he understand why
Speaker 2: he would kill Casey, but he needed Michael to explain
Speaker 2: why he killed the children.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, after some back and forth, the detective told Michael
Speaker 2: that his DNA was going to be taken and gathered
Speaker 2: for evidence, and then he would be transferred over to
Speaker 2: the county jail to await his initial court hearing. The
Speaker 2: detective explained that when someone's arrested for a felony, DNA
Speaker 2: can be gathered, and he explained that this is going
Speaker 2: to happen right then and there. Richard, Bauers and Nikki
Speaker 2: also gave DNA swabs. They did it voluntarily where they
Speaker 2: swabbed the inside of your mouth. The detective went over
Speaker 2: to the table where supplies were being stored. He put
Speaker 2: on some gloves. He grabbed two long que tips and
Speaker 2: he swabbed them along the inside of Michael's cheeks like
Speaker 2: he didn't protest. Right before the detective left, he thanked
Speaker 2: Michael for his cooperation, and that's when he let him
Speaker 2: know that he was going to be charged with four
Speaker 2: counts of first degree murder for the children, with an
Speaker 2: additional second degree murder charge for Casey. The detective said
Speaker 2: there may be more charges added on regarding the remains
Speaker 2: of each victim. Michael kept his head down and he
Speaker 2: kept shaking his head in agreement with what the detective
Speaker 2: was saying. The detective then thinked to begin and he
Speaker 2: left and Michael was transferred to the jail.
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, time, just I'm sorry, Tyy. I don't mean
Speaker 3: to keep interrupting, you know, it's just so much to.
Speaker 4: Like like that's like the only good thing is he
Speaker 4: was able to just be forthcoming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they didn't pull the information out of him, yes, right, or.
Speaker 4: Or barter or you know, and he was very forthcoming
Speaker 4: even on the traffic stop, you know right away.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, I know, I know it's it's so much.
Speaker 2: It's just the story is so fucking disturbing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really, it's just because of the breaks and of
Speaker 3: course everything with children, Yeah, like betting in everything with children,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: I'm just I never understand how people can kill not
Speaker 2: only their children, but any children. I mean, yes, so
Speaker 2: like how can you kill your own child? Like how
Speaker 2: are you holding your eleven month old baby under the
Speaker 2: bathroom faucet and fucking drowning her?
Speaker 3: Like it's exactly, it's I don't know what. It's hard. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's hard to put like when I do the p
Speaker 3: put myself in their shoes kind of thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is so hard for me to get there
Speaker 4: mentally because they're so scrambled and fucked up.
Speaker 3: It's scary. I don't get what. Yeah, same thing, and
Speaker 3: it's just and then like the breaks, those fucking weeks
Speaker 3: like yes, lead the girls with Nikki, what you've already
Speaker 3: done to the boys.
Speaker 2: Is ugh, and then they're in fucking plastic bins for
Speaker 2: weeks and weeks and weeks.
Speaker 3: Like to sit in that smell is un evil that
Speaker 3: because that smell is evil to me. It's just very I.
Speaker 2: Don't even don't I don't know how they did it.
Speaker 3: I just see either eye.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Blood was found inside the home. In the home
Speaker 2: in Summerfield. It was on the floors the ceiling. DNA
Speaker 2: was gathered from the bodily fluids that were located inside
Speaker 2: and outside the closet door frame inside the master bedroom.
Speaker 2: The toothbrushes that belonged to the children were taken into
Speaker 2: evidence to compare with DNA found at the home. Blood
Speaker 2: was also found inside the master bathroom floor and baseboards,
Speaker 2: and the same was found in the spare bathroom bathtub.
Speaker 2: Two bloody knives were also found in the van. I
Speaker 2: don't know what those were for. Bodily fluid was found
Speaker 2: all over the van's interior and DNA was also gathered
Speaker 2: from the vans airbags, seatbelts, handles, shifters, and doors. According
Speaker 2: to the police reports, a shower curtain with quote suspected
Speaker 2: bodily fluids was also seized from the van, along with
Speaker 2: fifty gallon toats, along with a comforter that had duct
Speaker 2: tape and rope intertwined. Empty beer cans and empty prescription
Speaker 2: bottles were taken into evidence by the Brantley County Police
Speaker 2: Department that were also found in the van. I can
Speaker 2: only imagine this place was a fucking pigsie.
Speaker 3: Right, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: When you said about the the shower curtain, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: that's how he dragged the toats over to the van.
Speaker 4: You know, have he's had him stacked, then you can
Speaker 4: just finally fluid spill out. It's on the curtain. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, you got to take the practicality and then
Speaker 4: apply it to the sociopathic cold detach its more than detachment.
Speaker 4: But oh right, I know, it's just I know, I'm time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Police also searched Sarah Jones's house, Michael's ex wife, and
Speaker 2: they found a baseball dad that was taken into evidence.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if that was the bat he
Speaker 2: killed Pacey with or I don't fucking know. So, as
Speaker 2: you know, Michael when he was when he crashed the
Speaker 2: mini van, He's found with only Casey's body, right, Okay,
Speaker 2: So where are Cameron, Preston, Murcali and Ayana? Eventually Michael
Speaker 2: leads the police to their shallow graves. The bodies were
Speaker 2: buried in the woods not far from where he crashed
Speaker 2: the van, which was off of Highway three oh one.
Speaker 2: He had actually just got done bearing all the children
Speaker 2: right before the crash. I think he was just like,
Speaker 2: I gotta get the fuck out of here, and he probably.
Speaker 4: Lost right, yeah good, got got caught up in the
Speaker 4: yea his own ship.
Speaker 2: Nine year old Cameron was buried in a gray colored
Speaker 2: plastic tote, while his clothes were placed in a trash
Speaker 2: bag and stored in a red suitcase. Little Preston was
Speaker 2: buried in a pink plastic tote and he was found
Speaker 2: with the zip tie still around his neck. Mercali and
Speaker 2: Ayana were buried in the same blue plastic tote. With
Speaker 2: all the evidence that was gathered against Michael, he kind
Speaker 2: of knew that he was fucked right, so he pleaded
Speaker 2: guilty to all five charges, which was one second degree
Speaker 2: murder charge like I told you for Casey, and four
Speaker 2: first degree murder charges because they were definitely premeditated of
Speaker 2: the children.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: And at this time when he was sentenced, he was
Speaker 2: forty one years old. We're in Florida because that's where
Speaker 2: the crimes took place, and Florida has death penalty, so
Speaker 2: he was sentenced to death by a unanimous vote in
Speaker 2: September of this year. So just last month, the Supreme
Speaker 2: Court heard arguments for his death penalty sentence to be appealed,
Speaker 2: and the ruling has not yet been made as of
Speaker 2: the writing of the story, which was about a week
Speaker 2: or so ago, so I didn't check it today if
Speaker 2: the decision has been released.
Speaker 4: But I am going to put out there and like
Speaker 4: all of us who are list that like good energy,
Speaker 4: that it sticks that he fucking does not get overturned.
Speaker 4: He gets the death penalty. Well, and then I'm sure
Speaker 4: there's here. I am pushing my own agenda and it's
Speaker 4: not my agenda. I guess it's just how I this motherfucker.
Speaker 3: I don't He doesn't deserve to anything.
Speaker 2: He's a fucking waste of space, yes, waste of air,
Speaker 2: waste of tax dollars. And I don't know, I've always been.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so funny when you hurt.
Speaker 4: In a sense and to do it so fucking systematically.
Speaker 4: Are you kidding about the zip ties?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I can't even letn pump the brakes if you. Everybody
Speaker 4: has their own opinions. But I know what I'm The
Speaker 4: kind of energy I'm putting out doesn't make me good,
Speaker 4: doesn't make me anything doesn't make me bad. I hope
Speaker 4: it stands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, or maybe he gets his ass beaten in
Speaker 2: prison like Jeffrey Dahmer did. I mean, I'm not saying,
Speaker 2: you know, somebody.
Speaker 3: Should do I hear you. I ain't putting it.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it should be done, but you know,
Speaker 2: it's something that wait.
Speaker 3: I ain't saying shit, no, but you know what people
Speaker 3: are ready to do with it? And I do, and
Speaker 3: I can't understand getting more and more.
Speaker 4: I guess maybe less judgmental about a more direct form
Speaker 4: of justice to protect children that are here as well. Right,
Speaker 4: so we can't forget what is here before us, right,
Speaker 4: which are women and children.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to keep checking back and seeing absolutely
Speaker 2: gets overturned or if they affirm it. I'm I can't
Speaker 2: imagine what his arguments would be. I mean, he can
Speaker 2: he confessed any pled guilty, so that was to the
Speaker 2: you know, to the convictions. So I mean, what could
Speaker 2: he possibly say he had a fucked up childhood? Like
Speaker 2: what are his you know, contributing?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Nothing, I mean the children.
Speaker 4: You it's something that some life that could not defend itself,
Speaker 4: you were called on to defend it and what did
Speaker 4: you do to it?
Speaker 3: Right? You destroyed it? To it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he destroyed it, and.
Speaker 3: So I mean that's where my passion.
Speaker 2: They just you know, you have to argue like the
Speaker 2: mitigating factors or whatever. And I just can't imagine. You know,
Speaker 2: everybody's entitled to an appeal whatever, blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: That's my opinion, lawyer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me say all the right things.
Speaker 4: And I'm not you know, it might not be a
Speaker 4: popular opinion. It's simply my opinion. And you know, fearce Mama,
Speaker 4: their energy will not be stopped definitely. So yeah, thank you,
Speaker 4: You're welcome. Are those kids from the memory and Casey
Speaker 4: and just.
Speaker 2: I know the only thing gives me comfort is there
Speaker 2: together exactly. Yes, you know, I just it's so horrible.
Speaker 4: It's just the yes to get you have to keep going, yeah,
Speaker 4: try to get this place better.
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