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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the deep dive. Our mission here is well

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<v Speaker 1>pretty simple. We take your sources, peel back the layers,

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<v Speaker 1>and pull out the most important insights. It's basically a

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<v Speaker 1>shortcut to being really well informed. Today we're plunging into

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<v Speaker 1>the complex and constantly shifting world of cybersecurity. We're drawing

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<v Speaker 1>our insights from this incredibly practical book, Cybersecurity, Attack and

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<v Speaker 1>Defense Strategies by Uri Diogenes and erdal Askaya. Our goal

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<v Speaker 1>for this deep dive it is to truly understand that

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<v Speaker 1>intricate dance between cyber attackers and the defenders. We'll explore

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<v Speaker 1>how cyber criminals think, dig into their sophisticated methods, and

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<v Speaker 1>then pivot to understanding the robust strategies and essential tools

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<v Speaker 1>that organizations and importantly you can use to protect against them.

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<v Speaker 1>You might actually be surprised to discover just how often

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<v Speaker 1>some of the most devastating attacks are based on surprisingly

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<v Speaker 1>old techniques fill with the modern twist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and what's truly critical, I think, from the author's perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>is this A strong security posture isn't just about building

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<v Speaker 2>walls anymore, not at all. It's equally about having robust

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<v Speaker 2>ways to detect when those walls are breached, and then

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<v Speaker 2>crucially rapidly respond. So this deep dive it should offer

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<v Speaker 2>you a complete picture, helping you grasp not just what

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<v Speaker 2>attacks look like, but why they manage to succeed, and

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<v Speaker 2>then how truly effective defenses are actually constructed.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let's unpack this. Then why has cybersecurity become

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<v Speaker 1>such an enormous challenge right now? What are the big

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<v Speaker 1>shifts really driving this?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if we zoom out look at the bigger picture,

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<v Speaker 2>it really boils down to two sort of seismic shifts

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<v Speaker 2>in how we work and live digitally, First the explosive

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<v Speaker 2>growth of remote work and second the widespread adoption of

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<v Speaker 2>cloud computing. The book actually highlights that nearly half of

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<v Speaker 2>employed Americans are now working remotely, and often they're using

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<v Speaker 2>their own devices, their home networks, which means that old

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<v Speaker 2>idea of a secure office perimeter it's practically gone. The user,

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<v Speaker 2>you sitting at your home computer, you become the frontline target.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a huge shift. So what does that actually mean

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<v Speaker 1>for individuals? For companies trying to stay secure? If our

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<v Speaker 1>traditional boundary are blurring, where is the new perimeter?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it leads to a fundamental rethink, doesn't it. If

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<v Speaker 2>identity is now the new perimeter, how are we protecting it?

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<v Speaker 2>And the book lays out or really stark statistic from

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<v Speaker 2>Verizon's twenty seventeen data breach investigations report, stolen credentials are

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<v Speaker 2>the go to attack method for financially motivated cyber criminals. Really, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>accounting for a staggering sixty three percent of confirmed data breaches.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking weak passwords, default passwords, stolen passwords.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Things like users re using passwords across personal and work accounts.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's where it gets maybe surprising. Even two factor authentication,

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<v Speaker 2>which we rely on so heavily, it can be bypassed

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<v Speaker 2>clever social engineering like that Deraymakissen simswap example. Attackers just

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<v Speaker 2>tricked his phone carrier, got his number transferred, and intercepted

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<v Speaker 2>his codes.

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<v Speaker 1>So they didn't even need a technical exploit exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes they just exploit human trust. It shows vulnerability isn't

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<v Speaker 2>always technical.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's a powerful example of Yeah, human vulnerability. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>beyond our login details, what about all these new apps

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<v Speaker 1>we use and just the sheer volume of data we're generating,

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<v Speaker 1>are they also major targets.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely, applications, especially those cloud based software as a

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<v Speaker 2>service you know, sauce apps. They're evolving incredibly fast. But

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<v Speaker 2>the question is how secure are they? And just as importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>how secure are the apps employees are using without it

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<v Speaker 2>even knowing this whole shadow it thing shadow ike, right,

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<v Speaker 2>employees using unapproved apps like personal cloud storage, maybe uploading

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<v Speaker 2>confidential work documents. The Cloud Security Alliance found something like

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<v Speaker 2>ninety two percent of companies don't actually know the full

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<v Speaker 2>scope of their shadow it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety two percent. That's huge.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a massive blind spot, a huge risk for data leakage.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's the data itself, you know, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>just sitting there on a server at rest or zipping

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<v Speaker 2>across the Internet in transit. Each state needs specific defenses

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<v Speaker 2>like encryption because it presents unique threats.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, here's where it gets really counterintuitive for me. The

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<v Speaker 1>book says the biggest, most costly data breaches often stem

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<v Speaker 1>from old attack methods just applied with new sophistication. That

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<v Speaker 1>feels like a contradiction.

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<v Speaker 2>It does, doesn't it, But it's absolutely true. Despite all

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<v Speaker 2>the advanced threats we hear about, the top causes for

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<v Speaker 2>breeches are still you know, viruses, basic malware, trojans, but

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<v Speaker 2>also lack of diligence, untrained employees, phishing, social engineering. These

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<v Speaker 2>are still at the top.

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<v Speaker 1>Really still. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Take the wantacry ransomware attack in twenty seventeen. It infected

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of thousands of machines globally, how by exploding a

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerability that Microsoft had already released a patch for almost

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<v Speaker 2>two months prior.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty nine days. Yeah, that's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. The truly stunning insight here is that despite

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<v Speaker 2>all the cutting edge tech, our most persistent vulnerabilities remain

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<v Speaker 2>remarkably basic human oic sight, failing to apply fixes that

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<v Speaker 2>have existed for ages.

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<v Speaker 1>So the basics still matter a lot, immensely.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a reminder that even in cybersecurity, the simplest fixes

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<v Speaker 2>are often the most overlooked. And we're also seeing this

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<v Speaker 2>chilling shift towards government sponsored cyber attacks, you know, data

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<v Speaker 2>as a weapon aiming to steal info for geopolitical advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>Think Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear targeting the DNC network.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So, if these old attacks are still so effective

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<v Speaker 1>and human factors are so critical, how do we even

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<v Speaker 1>begin to defend ourselves. The book suggests starting by thinking

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<v Speaker 1>like the attacker. It introduces something called the cybersecurity kill chain.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>The kill chain? It's essentially a step by step roadmap

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<v Speaker 2>that most cyber attackers follow. It outlines the typical phases

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<v Speaker 2>they go through to achieve their goals, and it all

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<v Speaker 2>kicks off with reconnaissance, which is basically their intelligence gathering phase.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, reconnaissance like spying.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much, it can be external reconnaissance happening outside your

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<v Speaker 2>organization's network, sometimes surprisingly low tech, like dumpster diving for

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<v Speaker 2>discarded documents. People still do that, oh yeah, But more commonly,

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<v Speaker 2>it leverages publicly available info, especially social media. Attackers scour

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<v Speaker 2>social media for personal details, birth dates, pet names, family info,

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<v Speaker 2>anything that might give clues for passwords or security questions.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we all put online exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And this lets the craft highly convincing spear phishing attacks

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<v Speaker 2>tailored just for you, like that Pentagon official who clicked

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<v Speaker 2>a malicious holiday package post. Social engineering is key here too,

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<v Speaker 2>Exploiting human psychology are liking things, respecting authority, social validation,

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<v Speaker 2>using techniques like pretexting, making up elaborate lies, phishing fraudulent

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<v Speaker 2>emails or even phone calls. That's vishing and water holing,

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<v Speaker 2>infecting websites. Their targets visit.

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<v Speaker 1>Often, so they poison the well basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely, and don't underestimate physical methods like tailgating just walking

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<v Speaker 2>in right behind someone with legitimate access.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it's a lot of ways to gather intel without

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<v Speaker 1>even touching a keyboard. Okay, So once they have all

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<v Speaker 1>this information, maybe even a physical foothold, what happens next

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<v Speaker 1>in this kill chain? How do they get deeper?

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<v Speaker 2>That's when they move to internal reconnaissance. Once they're inside,

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<v Speaker 2>they use specialized tools to map the network from the

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<v Speaker 2>inside out. They'll use network scanners like endmap to identify

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<v Speaker 2>connected devices, open ports, operating systems, maybe check firewall.

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<v Speaker 1>Rules seeing what's connected.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they might deploy packet sniffers like wire shark to

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<v Speaker 2>capture an analyzed network traffic, looking for say, insecurely exchanged passwords.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they use hacking frameworks metasploit is a big one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a toolkit full of various exploits and payloads.

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<v Speaker 2>Other tools target wireless network specifically, or identify misconfigurations and

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<v Speaker 2>missing patches or driving still happens too looking for unsecured WiFi.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so they've gathered their intel map the network. Now

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<v Speaker 1>what this is where they actually try to break in,

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<v Speaker 1>right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>The next critical phase is compromising the system. This is

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<v Speaker 2>where they actively try to exploit those vulnerabilities they found

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<v Speaker 2>during reconnaissance. And we're seeing definite trends here. Things like

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<v Speaker 2>extortion attacks, ransomware like wannacrize the classic example, but also

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<v Speaker 2>threats to leak sensitive data if you don't pay up,

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<v Speaker 2>like what happened with Ashley Madison or that charge of

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<v Speaker 2>bank incident.

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<v Speaker 1>Right the extortion angle.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there are data manipulation attacks. The goal isn't just

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<v Speaker 2>stealing but altering information. Think Chinese spies allegedly altering US

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<v Speaker 2>defense blueprints or that hack of the Associated presss TWITTER

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<v Speaker 2>that caused a huge stock market dip. Scary stuff absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>And with the explosion of connected devices, IoT device attacks

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<v Speaker 2>are surging, creating massive networks of compromised devices, bought nets

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<v Speaker 2>for things like DDAs attacks often just exploiting default passwords.

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<v Speaker 1>Default passwords against.

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<v Speaker 2>Still a huge issue. We're also seeing persistent use of

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<v Speaker 2>back doors, often hidden in legitimate software hardware, and a

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<v Speaker 2>big increase in attacks targeting mobile devices.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of our systems and data are in

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<v Speaker 1>the cloud. Now does that make them more or less secure?

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<v Speaker 1>How does that factor in?

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<v Speaker 2>That raises a really important question, doesn't it? If everything

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<v Speaker 2>is shared in the cart, what does that mean for security?

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<v Speaker 2>The book emphasizes this shared responsibility model. The cloud provider

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<v Speaker 2>handles a lot, sure, but the customer, you still hold

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<v Speaker 2>significant responsibility, especially for what you put into the cloud.

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<v Speaker 2>How you can figure it so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just handed over and forget it?

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely not, and many organizations simply aren't ready for this.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen high profile breaches target Home Depot, Sony Pictures,

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<v Speaker 2>even the Irs, where initial compromises were leveraged to steal

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<v Speaker 2>data from cloud servers. Microsoft's own security intelligence report noted

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<v Speaker 2>a three hundred percent increase in cyber attax on cloud

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<v Speaker 2>based Microsoft accounts in just one year from Q one

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen to Q one twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And often attackers exploit zero day vulnerabilities. These are

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<v Speaker 2>the really dangerous ones. Flaws unknown to the vendor, so

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<v Speaker 2>there's no patch available yet.

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<v Speaker 1>How do they find those?

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<v Speaker 2>Through techniques like fuzzing? Basically throwing unexpected data at software

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<v Speaker 2>to see if it breaks, or by meticulously analyzing publicly

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<v Speaker 2>available source code, or using reverse engineering tools like idaprro Okay, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say they've gotten in compromise a system using one

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<v Speaker 1>of these methods, it's not overright, how do they typically

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<v Speaker 1>maintain that access and then spread out correct?

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<v Speaker 2>That leads to two interconnected phases, really chasing a user's

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<v Speaker 2>identity and lateral movement. After getting that initial foothold, often

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<v Speaker 2>with just a low level standard user account, their next

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<v Speaker 2>goal is to gain a deeper, more persistent presence. Even

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<v Speaker 2>after a successful initial breach, attackers or red teams in

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<v Speaker 2>a testing scenario will study how legitimate users operate to

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<v Speaker 2>try and blend in emulate their patterns, blend invite, and surprisingly,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most successful entry points even now is

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<v Speaker 2>still the well crafted phishing email, often tailored using that

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<v Speaker 2>social media intel we talked about earlier, matching the target's

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<v Speaker 2>hobbies or interests.

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<v Speaker 1>This is much more convincing.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly so, once they're in lateral movement means moving from

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<v Speaker 2>that initial compromise system to other systems within the network.

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<v Speaker 2>This allows them to strengthen their hold, maybe find more

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<v Speaker 2>valuable data or get closer to critical system and they're

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<v Speaker 2>often using legitimate Windows tools for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Built in tools, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Things like PowerShell utilities from the SUS internal suite like PSZX,

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<v Speaker 2>Windows Management Instrumentation WMI Scheduled Tasks tools admins use every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Physical destruction from code.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it showed the world that a cyber attacker's goal

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<v Speaker 1>That is truly sobering. Yeah, okay, so how do we

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<v Speaker 1>possibly counter such sophisticated, evolving threats. The book talks about

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<v Speaker 1>strengthening your security posture through three foundational pillars. What are those? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>These pillars are absolutely foundational, protection, detection, and response. Historically,

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<v Speaker 2>building firewalls, installing anti virus, rolling the walls higher exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But the way threats are shifting now means we absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>need balanced investment across all three. Protection is still vital,

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<v Speaker 2>but you have to assume you'll be breached eventually, so

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<v Speaker 2>detection and response become critical. This is where the Red

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<v Speaker 2>The Red Team acts as the adversary, the attackers. They

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<v Speaker 2>often following that kill chain we just discussed. The Blue Team,

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<v Speaker 1>So they learned from the simulated attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely and full open collaboration between these teams is vital.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not about winning or losing, it's about improving. They

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<v Speaker 2>focus on key metrics like ETTD estimated time to detection

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<v Speaker 1>Makes sense. The book really emphasizes incident response too, calling

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<v Speaker 1>it primordial for companies. What does a solid, effective incident

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be a clearly documented process. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>It's about having a plan for handling security incidents and

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<v Speaker 2>world example. Again, when users at a company suddenly saw

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<v Speaker 2>those ransomware screens, the security team had to move fast.

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<v Speaker 2>They needed to rapidly identify the threat, use available threat intelligence,

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<v Speaker 2>find the right patch MS seventeen zero ten in that case,

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<v Speaker 1>Externally, coordinated effort, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>And the critical part often missed is that the process

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't end when the incident is resolved. It continues after

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<v Speaker 2>with crucial lessons learned, documentation, what went wrong, How can

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<v Speaker 1>Continuous improvement exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the cloud, incident response involves that shared responsibility again.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it? So, given all this, what are the foundational

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<v Speaker 2>Really all begins with a well defined security policy. And

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't just some dusty document sitting on a shelf.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be a living document. It needs constant review,

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<v Speaker 2>constant updates, incorporating the latest industry standards, clear procedures, clear guidelines,

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<v Speaker 2>and m'st clearly define its scope. Who does it apply to? Employees, contractors? Everyone?

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<v Speaker 1>Living document? Not set and forget definitely not.

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<v Speaker 2>And this raises that crucial point again. If the end

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<v Speaker 2>user is often called the weakest link. How do we

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<v Speaker 2>but not just boring lectures right. Real world examples show

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<v Speaker 2>people what a phishing email actually looks like. Simulate a

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<v Speaker 2>fake social media campaign targeted at them. That's stuff far

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<v Speaker 2>more effective than just reading texts. Make it real. It

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<v Speaker 2>also means clear social media security guidelines. What's appropriate business

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<v Speaker 2>behavior online? What are the potential disciplinary actions for, say,

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<v Speaker 2>defamatory or hostile posts. It all needs to be clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Then these policies need to be enforced holistically, not just

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<v Speaker 2>on individual computers and servers, but network devices too, routers, switches, firewalls, everywhere, everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>For Windows systems, you can use Group Policy objects GPOs

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<v Speaker 2>authorized applications based on their publisher or digital signature. Stopping

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<v Speaker 2>unknown stuff from running. Hardening systems is also key. Applying

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<v Speaker 2>Often using tools like Microsoft Security Compliance Manager or the

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<v Speaker 1>And enforcing isn't enough, right, you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Check exactly you must monitor for compliance. There are dashboard

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's fascinating here too is the idea of physically

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely. Network segmentation is a core defense in depth approach.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of it like the layers of an onion. You

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<v Speaker 2>within your core infrastructure layer upon layer exactly for existing

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<v Speaker 2>physical networks, just understanding the complex layout the topology can

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<v Speaker 2>Wind's Network Performance Monitor Suite help discover the network. Physical

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<v Speaker 2>network segmentation, whether it's on your own premises or in

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<v Speaker 2>a hybrid cloud, involves isolating virtual networks and using routing

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<v Speaker 2>services or virtual firewalls between them. AZ your security center

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<v Speaker 1>Radius, right, contain the damage? And how do active sensors

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<v Speaker 2>You're absolutely right. Active sensors go well beyond simply looking

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<v Speaker 2>These are like patterns of behavior or specific digital footprints

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<v Speaker 2>left by threats. Think of it like the PETI ransomware

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<v Speaker 2>always running a specific command. That command becomes an IOC,

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<v Speaker 2>a tilltale sign exactly. Organizations can you shared resources like

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<v Speaker 2>spot threats faster. Then we talk about IDs versus IPS

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<v Speaker 2>Intrusion detection systems IDs simply detect potential intrusions and alert you.

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<v Speaker 2>Intrusion prevention systems IPS actively take action, block the traffic, stop.

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<v Speaker 1>The process, detect versus prevent right.

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<v Speaker 2>IPS operates in rule based mode, following specific rules like

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<v Speaker 2>They build a baseline, then they flag anything that significantly

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely essential for spotting security breaches. Early track legitimate processes

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<v Speaker 1>Patterns so they know it's normal for you exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Tools like Microsoft Advanced Thread Analytics ATA or Azure Security

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<v Speaker 2>That's the core promise the power of thread intelligence. It's

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<v Speaker 2>their TTPs, tactics, techniques and procedures. This allows you to

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<v Speaker 2>scope your defenses, prioritize based on the most likely attacker profiles,

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<v Speaker 2>targeting your specific organization or industry, tailoring the precisely. And

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<v Speaker 2>the Wantacry and Pettia outbreaks are prime examples of how

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<v Speaker 2>threat intelligence offers a degree of predictability. Remember Eternal Blue.

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<v Speaker 2>That exploit was leaked by the Shadow Brokers group in

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<v Speaker 2>April twenty seventeen. Microsoft had released the pasch M S

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen zero ten back in March. Wantacry used Eternal Blue

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<v Speaker 2>in May. This means organizations had the intelligence the information

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<v Speaker 2>to predict the risk and act proactively before the massive outbreak.

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<v Speaker 1>They just had to connect the.

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<v Speaker 2>Dots, connect the dots, and act on the intelligence. Petia

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<v Speaker 2>later used Eternal Blue again for lateral movement, further proving

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<v Speaker 2>there's a level of predictability in attack methods if you're watching.

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<v Speaker 2>There are many open source platforms now like virus Total,

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<v Speaker 2>Alien ball Otx, Meta Defender Cloud that provide this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of threat intelligence, and tools like Azure Security Center's Threat

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<v Speaker 2>Intelligence Dashboard can help visualize compromised areas, attack origins, connecting

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<v Speaker 2>those dots for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, beyond just detecting threats, how do organizations proactively manage

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<v Speaker 1>their own inherent security weaknesses? It feels like plugging holes

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<v Speaker 1>in a dam a constant battle.

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<v Speaker 2>It absolutely is, and that's precisely where vulnerability management comes in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a one off task. It's a structured, ongoing

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<v Speaker 2>life cycle. It involves taking a detailed inventory of all

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<v Speaker 2>your digital assets you can't protect, what you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>you have, analyzing your existing security policies against those assets,

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<v Speaker 2>conducting risk assessments which vulnerabilities matter most, then doing actual

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerability assessments, simulating attacks with tools like nessus to actively

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<v Speaker 2>find weaknesses. This is followed by information management, getting timely

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<v Speaker 2>alerts about new vulnerabilities from places like the cert Coordination Center,

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<v Speaker 2>then crucially reporting and remediation tracking, making sure holes actually

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<v Speaker 2>get plugged, and finally response planning what do we do

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<v Speaker 2>if a vulnerability is exploited before we patch it? The

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<v Speaker 2>whole process a continuous cycle. And again, MS blaster Worm

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<v Speaker 2>way back in two thousand and three and WannaCry in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventeen both exploited vulnerabilities that had patches available weeks

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<v Speaker 2>or even months before the widespread attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>History repeating itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Sadly, yes, it just underscores the critical need for a

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<v Speaker 2>strict change management process and proactive patching tools like nessis

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<v Speaker 2>help with the scanning, and others like Secunia, PSI or

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<v Speaker 2>CSI help manage the patching process itself. It's about fixing

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<v Speaker 2>the roof before it rains, not scrambling afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes perfect sense. Finally, when an incident inevitably does

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<v Speaker 1>hit despite all these defenses, how do defenders become detectives

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<v Speaker 1>and piece together exactly what happened? Where do they look?

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<v Speaker 2>This is where log analysis becomes absolutely crucial. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>being a digital detective, sifting through clues. The sheer volume

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<v Speaker 2>of logs from operating systems, firewalls, web servers, applications can

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<v Speaker 2>be completely overwhelming, So data correlation is the key skill here,

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<v Speaker 2>connecting the dots between different log sources finding the pattern exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, you might see a suspicious process startup in

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<v Speaker 2>the Windows operating system logs. That might lead you to

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<v Speaker 2>check the firewall logs to see if that process tried

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<v Speaker 2>to communicate it externally out to the internet. Then maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you check the web server logs around the same time

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<v Speaker 2>to see if there were signs of a web application

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<v Speaker 2>attack like SQL injection attempts that could have allowed that

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<v Speaker 2>process to start following the trail. Following the trail. In Windows,

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<v Speaker 2>the event viewer is packed with critical security related events.

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<v Speaker 2>Event ID four six eighty eight shows new processes being created,

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<v Speaker 2>which is key for spotting malware execution. Event ID four

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<v Speaker 2>seven twenty shows a new user account was created, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>by an attacker. Even things like prefetch files or user

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<v Speaker 2>mode crash dumps can reveal malicious activity. On Linux systems,

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<v Speaker 2>logs like var logof dot log track authentication events, who

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<v Speaker 2>logged in, when from where?

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<v Speaker 1>So os logs are critical What else.

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<v Speaker 2>Network and weblogs are vital too. Firewall logs from checkpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>met screen or Linux iptables show who initiated communication, the destination,

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<v Speaker 2>the protocol used, and importantly, whether the connection was allowed

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<v Speaker 2>or denied by the firewall rules. Web server logs from

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<v Speaker 2>Eyes or Apache are crucial for understanding attack against your

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<v Speaker 2>web applications. You can use tools like log parser to

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<v Speaker 2>querry these logs, specifically for signs of SQL injection or

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<v Speaker 2>other web attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Querrying logs like a database pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>The book walks through a really fascinating real world scenario

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<v Speaker 2>investigating a phishing email that led to a full system compromise.

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<v Speaker 2>By correlating virus total scan results of a malicious URL

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<v Speaker 2>found in the email with Windows of NID for sixty

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<v Speaker 2>eight eight process creation, you can trace the execution of

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<v Speaker 2>hacking tools like mimicats for stealing passwords or sec for

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<v Speaker 2>lateral movement. Even seeing a vent ID eleven zero two,

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<v Speaker 2>which means the security log was cleared, is itself a

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<v Speaker 2>huge indicator of compromise attackers trying to cover their tracks.

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<v Speaker 1>UH. Clearing the logs is a clue itself.

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<v Speaker 2>A big one, and in a hybrid cloud environment, tools

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<v Speaker 2>like Azure Security Center provide investigation maps. These visually link

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<v Speaker 2>correlated alerts show compromised hosts, affected user accounts, really helping

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<v Speaker 2>the incident response team quickly find the root cause and

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<v Speaker 2>understand the scope of the breach.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. What an incredible and slightly tar verifying deep dive

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<v Speaker 1>into the world of cybersecurity, attack and defense. We've really

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<v Speaker 1>explored everything from the subtle art of social engineering and

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<v Speaker 1>the scary reach of a zero day exploit, all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to the methodical precision of red team simulating attacks

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<v Speaker 1>and the critical vigilance of blue teams defending against them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this deep dive has truly shown us. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that the cybersecurity landscape is just a constantly moving target,

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<v Speaker 2>relentlessly evolving. Attackers are always adapting, using both incredibly sophisticated

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<v Speaker 2>new techniques and as we saw, even those old tricks

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<v Speaker 2>with modern twists. But the good news is defenders are

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<v Speaker 2>also rapidly evolving. They're leveraging advanced behavior analytics, smart threat intelligence,

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<v Speaker 2>robust policy enforcement, really trying to stay ahead, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least keep pace.

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<v Speaker 1>So what does this all mean for you listening right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it means cybersecurity isn't just some IT department's

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<v Speaker 1>problem anymore, is it. It's a share of responsibility. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a crucial part of everyone's digital life now, Your awareness,

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<v Speaker 1>your proactive measures at every level, from understanding the basics

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<v Speaker 1>of strong security policies and the need for continuous user

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<v Speaker 1>education to recognizing attacker patterns and maybe even leveraging some

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<v Speaker 1>powerful detection tools yourself. It's all absolutely essential.

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<v Speaker 2>And this really raises an important final question for you,

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<v Speaker 2>the listener, to maybe ponder. In a world where even

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<v Speaker 2>legitimate system tools can be weaponized against you, and your

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<v Speaker 2>very identity is effectively the new perimeter, how often are

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<v Speaker 2>you truly reevaluating your own digital habits? What specific steps

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<v Speaker 2>are you actually taking day to day to ensure your

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<v Speaker 2>personal and your professional digital footprint is adequately protected
