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<v Speaker 1>Eight minutes past the hour of two o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a lovely, beautiful May Tuesday outside, about seventy

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<v Speaker 2>seven degrees clear and sunny here in downtown Salt.

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<v Speaker 1>Lake City, Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>And as it is every single day, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>have you along for the ride. Spence Checkets behind the

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Port, Larson behind the glass. Happy Memorial Day weekend

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<v Speaker 2>to you in the rear view mirror. Hope you had

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<v Speaker 2>some time off like we did yesterday. Going to be

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<v Speaker 2>back on air on this Tuesday afternoon. A lot has

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<v Speaker 2>happened since you and I last spoke on Friday afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>of last week. Of course, the NBA playoffs continue to

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<v Speaker 2>roll along, both in the West and the East. The

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma City Thunder are high speed ahead to not just

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA Finals, but most likely an NBA Championship.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a heavyweight fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Last night in Minneapolis saw OKC beat the Minnesota Timberwolves

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<v Speaker 2>in a game where the Timberwolves really did a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>did a lot of good things, a lot of good things.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll get into it and we'll kind of preview

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<v Speaker 2>what's next.

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<v Speaker 1>In the West. Of course, in the East, since you

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<v Speaker 1>I last spoke, the New.

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<v Speaker 2>York Knicks resurrected their chances for now to make this

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<v Speaker 2>a series. I still have serious reservations about whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not this thing is going to go more than five

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<v Speaker 2>or six games. But we have a massive game for

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<v Speaker 2>tonight in Indiana where the New York Knicks will try

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<v Speaker 2>to tie the series up at two games apiece after.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a big boy win, man, that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a gutty win over the weekends where the

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<v Speaker 2>Knicks were able to beat the Pacers one oh six,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred on Sunday Sunday evening, and now we march

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<v Speaker 2>on to tonight to see how it may go.

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana is a slight favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>They're a two point five point favorite of the last check,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course they lead the series two one, and

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<v Speaker 2>we go back to gain Bridge Field House in Indianapolis, Indiana.

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<v Speaker 2>If the Knicks can get it tonight back to MSG

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<v Speaker 2>deadlock to two. So we'll get to the latest with

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA postseason. We'll get to the latest with the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA draft, as the Utah Jazz are just a number

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks away now from making a couple of selections. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they have two first round picks, they have two second

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<v Speaker 2>round picks. We'll see if they keep all four picks

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<v Speaker 2>or if they decide to do something different than that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we'll get to some offseason stuff, because a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of interesting potential targets for teams if they want

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<v Speaker 2>to get aggressive, whether it's free.

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<v Speaker 1>Agency or trades.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Jazz are in the mix of teams that

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<v Speaker 2>have a bevy of assets that might interest teams that

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<v Speaker 2>need draft capital and clean books if they want to

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<v Speaker 2>jettison some talent that hasn't worked. A big story out

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<v Speaker 2>of the news college football.

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<v Speaker 1>Broke a few hours ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Greg Sankee has announced that the SEC will be breaking

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<v Speaker 2>away from the NCAA effective for the twenty twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty nine academic calendar year. It's not that surprising,

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<v Speaker 2>but to hear it and see it and understand that

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually official is really jarring.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Sport that continues to be ever changing, almost on a

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<v Speaker 2>day by day basis. It's hard to exactly know what

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to look like just in a couple of months,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll get to the latest out of the world

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<v Speaker 2>of college football OTAs in the NFL, Aaron Rodgers is

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<v Speaker 2>still playing Possum.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently he wants to retire a Packer.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that would look like, but ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>I still think he lands with Pittsburgh. So that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a big story making the rounds today. Throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>course of the news cycle, we have four Utah Mammoth

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<v Speaker 2>players that are gold medal winners as the United States

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<v Speaker 2>of America won the World Hockey Championships for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time since nineteen thirty three, a ninety two year drought

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<v Speaker 2>over Clayton Keller, your captain, Logan, Cooley, Josh done, all

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<v Speaker 2>of them really big time contributors again.

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<v Speaker 1>Clayton was the captain of Team USA.

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<v Speaker 2>Logan was second on the team in points and gold medals.

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<v Speaker 2>Around the next of four u Tom Mammoth players, Amelka

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<v Speaker 2>also was in the tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll do a little hockey.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the battle for Lord Stanley's Cup rolls.

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<v Speaker 1>On in the world of professional hockey.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got some more playoff hockey to get to with

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<v Speaker 2>the Oilers taking on the Stars. Carolina actually was able

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<v Speaker 2>to get one with Florida. Man, they might just win

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing. Stars Oilers Tonight at six o'clock in Edmonton.

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<v Speaker 2>Edmonton leads that series two to one. Stars will try

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<v Speaker 2>to get even tonight. So we'll do the latest on

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<v Speaker 2>the hockey playoffs as well.

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<v Speaker 1>What did we ask of.

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<v Speaker 2>Our local soccer club when we second night on Friday?

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<v Speaker 1>We asked for a goal. They gave us two.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is the other team scored three, and if

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<v Speaker 2>I do some quick math, that equals another loss for OURSL,

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<v Speaker 2>a home loss for RSL to Vancouver over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>and now we say goodbye to Diego Luna for at

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<v Speaker 2>least a month and a half, if not more.

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<v Speaker 1>And when the.

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<v Speaker 2>Offense has been even kind of effective about ninety percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the time it's in included Diego Luna. This feels

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<v Speaker 2>like a lost season. I don't know what else to

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<v Speaker 2>say about it. Failures from the front office in the

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<v Speaker 2>previous ownership. This is not on the Millers, So save

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<v Speaker 2>your polls that you put out on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>They just barely took over.

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<v Speaker 2>But certainly Ryan Smith Dave Blitzer, the previous ownership group

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<v Speaker 2>who decided to not reinvest the funds they were able

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<v Speaker 2>to snag as a result of moving on from some

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<v Speaker 2>of the most talented pieces need to wear this because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there's any way back for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be a really, really long season

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<v Speaker 1>without a lot of hope. Quite frankly so.

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<v Speaker 2>Local soccer club, local hockey club, local basketball team. Latest

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<v Speaker 2>in the world of college football, of course, NBA playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>Stanley Cup playoffs, OTA's in the NFL, A little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of everything on this Tuesday afternoon edition after being off

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you for riding along with us on this

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful day.

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<v Speaker 2>Our first guest today Rafael Barlow, who took over from

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<v Speaker 2>our old friend Chad Ford. Front of the program, chat

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<v Speaker 2>Ford Shout Out Ford, NBA Big Board Podcasts, NBA big

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<v Speaker 2>board dot Com. If you want to learn about some

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<v Speaker 2>of the prospects that could be on the board at five,

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<v Speaker 2>Raphael's an excellent, excellent asset and resource for you. He's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna hop on right out of the gates today. Our

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<v Speaker 2>buddy Lee ellis to talk some NBA playoffs on the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Richard Smith forty years with Utah Jazz front office, live

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<v Speaker 2>and studio for an entire hour, and then Voice of

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<v Speaker 2>the Royals, Voice of the Stars, host of the Roundball

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<v Speaker 2>Roundup podcast on the Utah Jazz podcast Network, but most importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>the former producer of this radio show JP John Paul

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<v Speaker 2>Chunga will stop buying a Tuesday afternoon, So good guest

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<v Speaker 2>list today with a lot to get to with Rafael Barlow,

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<v Speaker 2>Lee Ellis, Richard Smith, JP Chunga me, Spence check. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all of you, the great listeners, and that guy Porter

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<v Speaker 2>Larson on a Tuesday afternoon. I sent you the text, Man,

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<v Speaker 2>don't let us get tonight, don't let us get game four.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let us win Game four. That's all I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>right out of the gates.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that would be more along the lines of how

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<v Speaker 3>I feel, Spence. If I hadn't seen the Knicks lose

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<v Speaker 3>the way they did in Game one, right, if I

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<v Speaker 3>hadn't seen the roller coaster that these that these playoffs

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<v Speaker 3>have been, you know, I would say that. But because

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<v Speaker 3>of what I've seen and because it's the New York Knicks,

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<v Speaker 3>if we win Game four, great, But that doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>give me confidence we're winning the series. But it would

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<v Speaker 3>put a lot of pressure back on Indiana. It gives

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<v Speaker 3>the Nicks another chance at the at the Garden, and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Done. So there's my take on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>You think they win to night, I do, wow, I do, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't quote me. I think the Knicks are winning the series.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, Now, now you need to calm down, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>When we were on the show on Friday, you were

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<v Speaker 2>basically in tears, and now you think they're gonna win

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<v Speaker 2>the series.

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<v Speaker 1>I just try to give you the life of a

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks fan. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>It's up and down, it's it's very much a bipolar

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<v Speaker 3>experience and I'm just living it. And listen, it's the

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<v Speaker 3>Eastern Conference finals. Man, how many times in my life. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I've lived now over a quarter century, and I've experienced

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<v Speaker 3>this one time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna enjoy it. I'm gonna lean in. You should

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it. I mean Game three was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Kat earned his Nick uniform and then did not have

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<v Speaker 2>a New York accent after the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happened. He lost his New York

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<v Speaker 3>I need like his urgency to be a little more consistent.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I don't under Sometimes he just looks like

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<v Speaker 3>he's It's not that he doesn't play hard, it just

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<v Speaker 3>looks like sometimes he's not all there and then he realizes, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like one of the better players in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to turn it on and then you see

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<v Speaker 3>what kat is. I don't understand why it's so off

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<v Speaker 3>and on, but I guess that's that's the experience of

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<v Speaker 3>being a Knicks fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, indeed, so we'll see what happens tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>hunderdsports dot com. All right, our first guest today Rafael

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<v Speaker 2>Barlow to Toxin NBA Draft. But before we bring in

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<v Speaker 2>Rafael on a Tuesday afternoon, it is time now for

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<v Speaker 2>your opening tip.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the Drive with Spence check its on Utah's

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<v Speaker 2>A couple things here. We'll start last night. I like

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<v Speaker 2>where the Minnesota Timberwolves probably beat almost every team in

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<v Speaker 2>than anything that had to do with the Minnesota Timberwolves.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though the narrative today and the conversation today has

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<v Speaker 2>been surrounding Anthony Edwards and Aunt's inability to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>can take a little bit of umbridge with Aunt is

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<v Speaker 2>what happened when he gave the ball up. Okay, Because

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<v Speaker 2>when he had the ball, they ran two defenders at him.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally every time he drove one hundred percent of Ant's drives.

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<v Speaker 2>He was double team last night. And what Oklahoma City

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<v Speaker 2>what he did in Game three, and that is get

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<v Speaker 2>off early. So as soon as Aunt caught it, you

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<v Speaker 2>the deck. They didn't double team on the catch. They

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<v Speaker 2>doubled team on the dribble, okay, so they would force

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<v Speaker 2>Ant to pick up the dribble. Then he's in jail,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't just four shots to four shots one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things. And I love the inside inside Guys

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite shows ever. Okay, but ultimately I remind people

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<v Speaker 2>at breaking basketball games down. You'll get some salient points.

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck is the man, Kenny is. Kenny Shack has never

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<v Speaker 1>I should listen to more Shack takes. But Kenny always says.

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<v Speaker 2>unless you force, you know, eighteen to twenty shots if

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<v Speaker 2>fundamental flaw in analyzing what we saw last night because

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<v Speaker 2>after the game, Ann was asked whether or not he

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<v Speaker 2>like I made the right play mostly every time. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know what he did, because here's the deal. What

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Dagnall did last night for stretches is he went small.

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<v Speaker 2>and then his four perimeter defenders surrounding Chet Holgrin as

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<v Speaker 2>rim protector, a very good shot blocker, a very good

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<v Speaker 2>shot changer. He had three blocks last night, altered a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of others. And then on the perimeter, it's Lou Dort,

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<v Speaker 2>who plays defense like a middle linebacker. It's Sga who

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<v Speaker 2>ALL nba caliber. Defender and then you can kind of

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<v Speaker 2>wallace both of whom are absolute pit. Bulls, okay so

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<v Speaker 2>on multiple, possessions and you can go back and look

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<v Speaker 2>at some of this stuff On senergie Or clean The

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<v Speaker 2>glass or. Whatever there were dribble handoffs and different off

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<v Speaker 2>ball actions to Get ant the ball and then get him.

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<v Speaker 2>Involved and you Saw Lou dort suddenly pass him off

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<v Speaker 2>To Jalen, williams and Then Jalen williams Passing ant off

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<v Speaker 2>To Alex, caruso and Then Cason wallace blitzing screens to

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<v Speaker 2>double Team Anthony. Edwards like those are four slash five

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<v Speaker 2>depending on who's the game of the, time absolute dogs

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<v Speaker 2>on the perimeter when it comes to, guarding and their

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<v Speaker 2>whole plan Was ant will not beat, us, period end of. Story,

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<v Speaker 2>okay WHERE i was a little bit disappointed is some

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<v Speaker 2>of the off ball action After aunt would give the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>up because you still have the ability to get involved

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<v Speaker 2>in the. Play and if they're gonna run you off your,

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<v Speaker 2>line if they're gonna blitch you every, time if they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna double team every drive to fort to give it

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<v Speaker 2>up to, teammates your only course of action is finding

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<v Speaker 2>space off the. Ball And ant was not engaged BECAUSE

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<v Speaker 2>i think he was. FRUSTRATED i think he was. Tired

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<v Speaker 2>but the fact of the matter Is minnesota scored forty

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<v Speaker 2>one points in the fourth quarter on fifty four percent

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<v Speaker 2>field goal shooting against one of the best defenses of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Generation last night was not About. Ant it was not About.

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota minnesota was. Good it was a, good roody. Game

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<v Speaker 2>it was the Best dante De vincenzo game of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Playoffs it may have been the best Game i've ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen a Kil Alexander walker. Play a guy who played, here,

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<v Speaker 2>well a guy who was on the team. HERE i

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<v Speaker 2>never really fully understood why he couldn't get more. Run

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<v Speaker 2>BUT i don't know That i've ever seen to Kill.

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<v Speaker 2>Alexander Alexander walker play like that, again Best dante game

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<v Speaker 2>of the, playoffs you, know, ultimately And i'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to do The randall. Stuff you know HOW i feel

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<v Speaker 2>About Julius. Randall like for the last three or four,

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<v Speaker 2>years as The knick started to get a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>better whenever anybody would ask, me what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>about The, michael what do you think About Julius randall

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<v Speaker 2>as your number two offensive option when it. Matters he's

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<v Speaker 2>not a bad, player, okay and he's had some great

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<v Speaker 2>playoff games this, year better playoff performances than we've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Before the second straight, Game Julius randall was watching on

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<v Speaker 2>the bench in the fourth quarter because he was entirely

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<v Speaker 2>unengaged one of seven from the, floor five, points five,

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<v Speaker 2>turnovers disengaged defensively like it was a Pathetic Julius randall.

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<v Speaker 2>Game but what stood out more Was Oklahoma city answered

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<v Speaker 2>every Punch minnesota Through Nikille.

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander walker with his step back, three which he never.

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<v Speaker 2>Does Dante DiVincenzo corner three money Go, bear causing problems

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<v Speaker 2>in the pain not a great Mic conny game last,

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<v Speaker 2>night But nazrid came off the bench gave him some

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<v Speaker 2>good minutes like ultimately And Terren Shannon, junior who by the,

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<v Speaker 2>way was a hell of a college player At. Illinois

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<v Speaker 2>he's kind of been a revelation for. Them minnesota was

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<v Speaker 2>really really good last. Night but what you saw on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side is. Plead this a team that's, ready

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<v Speaker 2>a team In Oklahoma city that's far more ready than anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>thought including, myself based off their lack of track record

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<v Speaker 2>of deep playoff. RUNS i just always have a tough

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<v Speaker 2>time AND i always hesitate to anoint a team that

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<v Speaker 2>has not had a ton of playoff experience, together and

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<v Speaker 2>this group. Hasn't but you know, what they're. Ready doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>MATTER i don't know if they grew up in The denver.

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<v Speaker 2>SERIES i don't. Know if it's just a coach who

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<v Speaker 2>completely has the polts of his team and a personnel

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<v Speaker 2>built By Sam presty that has eleven or twelve players

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<v Speaker 2>that can all really. Go you, Know Mark dagnold has

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<v Speaker 2>trimmed his lineup a little. Bit he's mostly playing nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys Isaiah joe gets a little run here. There the

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<v Speaker 2>Other Jalen williams only came in last night to box

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<v Speaker 2>out on the final. Possession so this has really been

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<v Speaker 2>an eight slash nine man, unit but a team that

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<v Speaker 2>has eleven or twelve guys that can all really really.

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<v Speaker 2>Play and ultimately we're watching the emergence of one of

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<v Speaker 2>the top two or three players in pro basketball right,

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<v Speaker 2>now and that is Shape Gilgess, alexander your DESERVING, mvp

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<v Speaker 2>who has just understood exactly how to do what he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to, do regardless of who the primary defender. Is

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<v Speaker 2>he can get to his. Spots he understands, angles and,

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<v Speaker 2>yes the falling down like you've been shot by a

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<v Speaker 2>sniper when there's minimal, contact it's a little bit, unappealing

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<v Speaker 2>but that does not put him in rarefied air like

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<v Speaker 2>he's AVERAGING i think eight point four free throws per

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<v Speaker 2>game all year. Long That's, lebronish like that's. Durantish that's

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<v Speaker 2>like ball dominant offensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Wing you are in charge of making us.

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<v Speaker 2>Go and once you understand your, angles understand how to

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<v Speaker 2>get to your, spots part of the skill set and

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<v Speaker 2>the tool belt you need is to draw. Fouls get

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<v Speaker 2>the other team in foul, trouble get free points to

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<v Speaker 2>expedite inefficient, offense get to the free throw line and

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<v Speaker 2>get dunks and, threes like it's not that.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard but WHAT sga has learned how to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Is dominate the game as an individual offensive initial ciator

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<v Speaker 2>with a tool belt and the skill set that is totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Complete and he is six' eight and he, is built

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<v Speaker 2>and he is sturdy and. HE guards i think it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Corny group i'm not gonna lie like they're stuff after

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<v Speaker 2>the game where, It's, like okay if one person, is

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed we're all gonna stand here until the. Interview's over

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<v Speaker 2>then we're gonna walk in the locker, room together, all

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<v Speaker 2>right nerds and the dancing. The tiktoks like. It's corny

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<v Speaker 2>i'm not. Gonna lie this is a. Corny group it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to like, him individually but it's hard to deny

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<v Speaker 2>and argue with their RESULTS because i Really think minnesota

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<v Speaker 2>beats almost every team in pro basketball last night with

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<v Speaker 2>the way they played and the game plan they had

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<v Speaker 2>Outside Of, oklahoma CITY and i just feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>time to say, out loud this team's gonna WIN The.

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<v Speaker 2>NBA championship i Don't think minnesota is getting back in

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<v Speaker 2>this three to one ninety two percent of. THE time, i, think,

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<v Speaker 2>actually no it's ninety four percent of. THE time i

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<v Speaker 2>believe In The western finals playoffs overall that if you're

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<v Speaker 2>up three, to one you're gonna win. The THING and

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<v Speaker 2>i just Don't think Indiana Or new york has the

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<v Speaker 2>depth or, quite frankly the athleticism and the connectivity on

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<v Speaker 2>both ends of the Floor That oklahoma city has.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now it's the best team in.

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<v Speaker 2>Pro basketball and If, YOU'RE minnesota i think you'll hold

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<v Speaker 2>your head high because you gave it your best, last

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<v Speaker 2>night but you lost to the best team in. The League,

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<v Speaker 2>all right we'll get To The knicks. PACERS tonight i would.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine That, tom thibodeau and by, the way thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You Coach?

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<v Speaker 2>On friday what did we ask? Out loud can you

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<v Speaker 2>get ten Minutes From? Landry shammitt can you get fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>Minutes From? Delan wright are you gonna rush off Precious?

421
00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Precious achiua will you extend your bench a little bit

422
00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:41.519
<v Speaker 2>so your starters don't look like they're dying at the

423
00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:41.839
<v Speaker 2>end of the?

424
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<v Speaker 1>Fourth Quarter, and tom?

425
00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:46.559
<v Speaker 2>Did it we saw Former You delon wright play a

426
00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:51.480
<v Speaker 2>solid defensive. Thirteen Minutes landry shammitt a solid defensive. Thirteen

427
00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:56.240
<v Speaker 2>minutes Gainsmanship From rick carlisle after, the game saying it.

428
00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Was hard because they were playing their best.

429
00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Defensive players the only play in the rotation that was

430
00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:05.279
<v Speaker 2>not playing in the fourth quarter due to foul Trouble Was,

431
00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:08.960
<v Speaker 2>jalen brunson and it's Clear that indiana wants To hunt

432
00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:12.240
<v Speaker 2>jalen as much as they. Possibly Can mitchell robinson got

433
00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:14.480
<v Speaker 2>the Start. FOR joshart I give josh so much credit

434
00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:17.960
<v Speaker 2>for continuing to play his. Tail off he's one of

435
00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:20.279
<v Speaker 2>the most unique REBOUNDING wings I think i've, ever seen

436
00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:23.799
<v Speaker 2>and his rebounding was as important as anything else to

437
00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:26.799
<v Speaker 2>that game. Three win he had ten boards after coming off,

438
00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:28.119
<v Speaker 2>the bench And The mitchell robinson.

439
00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Thing, Works man. It's real he's, playing really.

440
00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:33.839
<v Speaker 2>Really well when give, An Opportunity Karl anthony towns twenty

441
00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:37.000
<v Speaker 2>points in the. Fourth quarter without, that spurt they. Are

442
00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:40.160
<v Speaker 2>dead they were down twenty in the. SECOND quarter i

443
00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:43.359
<v Speaker 2>do think one of the more under talked about dynamics

444
00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:46.039
<v Speaker 2>is how they closed the second quarter to actually pull it,

445
00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:49.000
<v Speaker 2>within thirteen and they got it done down the stretch

446
00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:52.240
<v Speaker 2>and it sets up, a massive massive. Game tonight it

447
00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:56.039
<v Speaker 2>should be great theater And it's nicks Pacers, From indianapolis,

448
00:21:56.759 --> 00:21:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Game four indiana trying to take that three to one

449
00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:00.880
<v Speaker 2>lead the next trying to it up and send it

450
00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:04.079
<v Speaker 2>back To The GARDEN Tours. Nba playoffs top of mind

451
00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:08.240
<v Speaker 2>awareness right NOW with okc taking a three to one

452
00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Lead over minnesota In The New york knicks attempting to

453
00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:14.960
<v Speaker 2>even things up Tonight. Against indiana that is a six

454
00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:16.960
<v Speaker 2>o'clock tip turner has it for.

455
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<v Speaker 1>You tonight it IS.

456
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<v Speaker 2>On, tnt however we are only weeks away FROM The.

457
00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Nba draft we'll HAVE Great nba draft coverage. FOR you

458
00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:27.880
<v Speaker 2>i will anchor our Coverage Alongside, Gordy Chiason, Richard Smith

459
00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:29.599
<v Speaker 2>basketball Lifers With.

460
00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Utah jazz let's get to know some of.

461
00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:31.480
<v Speaker 5>These.

462
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<v Speaker 1>Prospects now it's.

463
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<v Speaker 2>Been, a Minute But, RAPHAEL barlow Nba, BIG board Nba

464
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<v Speaker 2>big Board, dot com our guest On a, Tuesday, Afternoon Raphael, happy,

465
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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday sir how?

466
00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Are you i'm?

467
00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:42.839
<v Speaker 5>Doing great how are you guys?

468
00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Doing well appreciate, your time, simple question right off. The,

469
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<v Speaker 2>top okay in, your opinion best case scenario For The

470
00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:53.440
<v Speaker 2>utah jazz at five is which prospect And Why.

471
00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:58.640
<v Speaker 5>Tray johnson simple questions. For Me trey johnson LED the

472
00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:01.200
<v Speaker 5>sec and SCORING at i think this year's crop of

473
00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:05.519
<v Speaker 5>teams IN the sec is the best group of teams

474
00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:08.119
<v Speaker 5>he's ever had in, the conference and the number of

475
00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:10.920
<v Speaker 5>teams that they got IN the ncaa tournament reflects that

476
00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:15.160
<v Speaker 5>he LED the sec. In scorings he shot thirty nine

477
00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:18.960
<v Speaker 5>percent from three on about six attempts, per game and

478
00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:23.039
<v Speaker 5>a lot of those attempts were. Heavily contested it wasn't

479
00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:26.440
<v Speaker 5>like he was getting open catch and shoot catch and.

480
00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:30.599
<v Speaker 5>Shoot threes he's a much better passer than he's given.

481
00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:33.319
<v Speaker 5>Credit for he can play off. THE ball i Think

482
00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:36.400
<v Speaker 5>That tray johnson should be and arranged to go as

483
00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:38.839
<v Speaker 5>high as as. Number three so if he falls to

484
00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:41.279
<v Speaker 5>you call a, NUMBER five i think you have your

485
00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:44.440
<v Speaker 5>your go to score of.

486
00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:48.400
<v Speaker 2>The, Future, Okay So trey johnson best case scenario in

487
00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:50.680
<v Speaker 2>your opinion, at five as, you reference you know a

488
00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:52.640
<v Speaker 2>lot of buzz around this kid over the past three

489
00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:55.440
<v Speaker 2>or four weeks that indicate maybe he's not there. At Five,

490
00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:59.039
<v Speaker 2>so raphael if we operate off the assumption and the

491
00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:01.279
<v Speaker 2>premise that a team in the top four falls in

492
00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Love with trey secondary best case scenario For the jazz

493
00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:06.680
<v Speaker 2>at Five if trey is off.

494
00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:07.359
<v Speaker 1>The board.

495
00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:11.680
<v Speaker 5>That's where it gets tough because you Look at Utah

496
00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:14.680
<v Speaker 5>and i've actually talked to some different scouts About the,

497
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:19.640
<v Speaker 5>jazz roster and you just need to like really really

498
00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:23.519
<v Speaker 5>hit on on on one of, your picks and maybe

499
00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:28.039
<v Speaker 5>not necessarily hit this year because there's a there's there's

500
00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:29.759
<v Speaker 5>a kid that's going to be playing a provo next

501
00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:34.920
<v Speaker 5>year that's that pretty pretty Dynamic and ajdvasa that that

502
00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:39.079
<v Speaker 5>could be available if you if this or next season

503
00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:41.920
<v Speaker 5>is similar to. This season but with that being IN my,

504
00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:46.240
<v Speaker 5>I mean i've Heard That ace bailey could.

505
00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:48.160
<v Speaker 6>COULD fall i.

506
00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:50.759
<v Speaker 5>Mean there's some teams that really Like common moley watch

507
00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:53.519
<v Speaker 5>and in his future as far as it's been a

508
00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:58.200
<v Speaker 5>rim protector and and floor space or. Defensive anchor teams REALLY. Like,

509
00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:02.519
<v Speaker 5>VJ edgecombe I Like. JEREMIAH fears i think that he

510
00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:05.400
<v Speaker 5>has the chance to be a star in. This League

511
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:08.839
<v Speaker 5>But isaiah kallier was really Good for utah. Last year

512
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:11.759
<v Speaker 5>what does that Mean? For collier you already have based

513
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:17.839
<v Speaker 5>off Of today Clarkson and Sexton. And KIANTE so I

514
00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:21.640
<v Speaker 5>think utah has a really really. Difficult choice but if

515
00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:26.400
<v Speaker 5>Eighth Or trey johnson falls, to them that would. Be

516
00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:29.920
<v Speaker 5>great but other, THAN that I just i'm having a

517
00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:32.720
<v Speaker 5>hard time about who could be, the best the best Option.

518
00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:35.440
<v Speaker 1>For utah is there any chance that you come is there?

519
00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:36.640
<v Speaker 1>At five any chance?

520
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:36.799
<v Speaker 7>At?

521
00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:40.799
<v Speaker 5>ALL yeah i, THINK so i really. THINK so i

522
00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:43.119
<v Speaker 5>just don't think that would be a good Fit for

523
00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:49.759
<v Speaker 5>utah simply because, is he, you know like a. Dominant

524
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:52.799
<v Speaker 5>scorer is he the type of player that's going to

525
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:55.480
<v Speaker 5>be able to knock down. Open jumpers is he guy that's,

526
00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:58.359
<v Speaker 5>going TO like, i said be a creator off. THE

527
00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:02.000
<v Speaker 5>dribble i just don't know if if he, Provides that

528
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:05.000
<v Speaker 5>AND but i think he can't. BE available i really.

529
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:08.599
<v Speaker 2>Do So if i'm, understanding correctly if Both edge Combe

530
00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:11.079
<v Speaker 2>and trey are there, at five you THINK the jaz

531
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:11.559
<v Speaker 2>Should go.

532
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:15.319
<v Speaker 5>Trey now without, a doubt well without without. A doubt,

533
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:18.079
<v Speaker 5>i MEAN like, I said trey lit sec, and SCORING

534
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:20.640
<v Speaker 5>and i know scoring, isn't EVERYTHING but I think trey

535
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:24.519
<v Speaker 5>is the better passor the. Better shooter he measured out

536
00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:29.200
<v Speaker 5>a little bit bigger and edgem. Is good people are

537
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:32.759
<v Speaker 5>enamored by the athleticism and what he did For the

538
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:37.279
<v Speaker 5>bahamas national team. Last SUMMER but, I mean trey had

539
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:39.359
<v Speaker 5>a better YEAR and i think he's more ready to

540
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:41.720
<v Speaker 5>come in. And contribute is there.

541
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Any intrigue in your mind at one?

542
00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Or two or is IT simply, i, Mean look dallas

543
00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:50.400
<v Speaker 2>came out, and, said look we're. Keeping one their ownership, Group,

544
00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:53.359
<v Speaker 2>said nico you can't. Trade, it okay we're keeping it

545
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:57.680
<v Speaker 2>and We're. Taking cooper, So Ultimately, patrick dumont, the owner made,

546
00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:00.480
<v Speaker 2>the call so We know cooper's. At one any chance

547
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:02.920
<v Speaker 2>It's not dylan? It too or do you feel like

548
00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:03.920
<v Speaker 2>it's a lock both one?

549
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:04.440
<v Speaker 1>And, TWO.

550
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah I mean I think cooper is as much of

551
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:11.799
<v Speaker 5>a lock as you. Can get. Number two i'm not a.

552
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:13.960
<v Speaker 5>BETTING man i, don't GAMBLE but I say i'm about

553
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:17.599
<v Speaker 5>ninety percent Sure san antonio Would Take. Dylan, harper now

554
00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:20.640
<v Speaker 5>whether Or not harper plays a game for, this burst

555
00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:25.240
<v Speaker 5>that's a, different subject because the fit is. An ideal

556
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 5>when you figure that they just Traded For diaron fox at,

557
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:32.759
<v Speaker 5>the deadline And Then, stefan castle who really struggles, to

558
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.079
<v Speaker 5>shoot is at his best when he has on. Ball

559
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:38.400
<v Speaker 5>reps then he really took off in the second half

560
00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:41.839
<v Speaker 5>of the year when he had the opportunity to play

561
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:44.559
<v Speaker 5>with the ball in. His hands And so dylan is

562
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:46.720
<v Speaker 5>at best when he has the ball in. HIS hands

563
00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:50.119
<v Speaker 5>i don't necessarily like, to fit but If san antonio

564
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:53.039
<v Speaker 5>went with best, player available you Go, with harper then

565
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:55.200
<v Speaker 5>try to figure. Things OUT but i think it would

566
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:58.519
<v Speaker 5>be enticing for a Team like milwaukee to possibly have

567
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:02.279
<v Speaker 5>their point guard of. The future and only if ganis

568
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:04.200
<v Speaker 5>it says that he wants to, be MOVED and i

569
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.119
<v Speaker 5>Think san antonio has some pieces to put together a.

570
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Nice package do you think there's any Chance the jazz

571
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.559
<v Speaker 2>could move up in this draft and maybe Enty san

572
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:17.480
<v Speaker 2>antonio with five marketing something, Like that, you know because,

573
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:20.240
<v Speaker 2>ultimately raphaels, you know this is a fan base that

574
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 2>really is looking for, some hope looking for a shot in.

575
00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:25.519
<v Speaker 2>The arm it's an organization that needs some hope and

576
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:27.440
<v Speaker 2>a shot in the arm for the staff. Over there

577
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:32.079
<v Speaker 2>and it's just been a very successful basketball team for

578
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:34.079
<v Speaker 2>the better part of fifty years that has been in no.

579
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Man's land we're coming up on four, Years now so,

580
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:39.720
<v Speaker 2>you know all these reports and rumors out there That

581
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:41.319
<v Speaker 2>the jazz are going to try to be bold and

582
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:42.559
<v Speaker 2>they're going to do what they can to.

583
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Utilize, their assets their, draft capital.

584
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Their, clean books and would be willing to move on

585
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:50.039
<v Speaker 2>for most anybody if it meant moving up to two

586
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>and maybe Grabbing A.

587
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Dylan harper Could the jazz be in play to move

588
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>up to?

589
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:58.400
<v Speaker 5>TWO possibly, I mean i think maybe three would be

590
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:03.359
<v Speaker 5>a little bit more Realistic since philadelphia their timeline has

591
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.359
<v Speaker 5>to be. WIN now, i mean if you think, about

592
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:08.319
<v Speaker 5>It with embid and his health Concerns And paul george

593
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.480
<v Speaker 5>on the wrong side of, THIRTY five i don't know

594
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.319
<v Speaker 5>how you can make a deal work just, you know,

595
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.799
<v Speaker 5>numbers WISE but i would say three is probably the

596
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.000
<v Speaker 5>highest they. CAN go i don't know If san antonio

597
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:23.599
<v Speaker 5>would what would make a move up for, number two

598
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.160
<v Speaker 5>especially if they can if they think that there's a

599
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.519
<v Speaker 5>chance that They Compare victor Wimbiyama And yais. Okitakuboy together

600
00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 5>let me ask You.

601
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:34.799
<v Speaker 2>About ace let me dig In On ace bailey a little,

602
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.359
<v Speaker 2>bit more because there are some people, out there, and

603
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:39.680
<v Speaker 2>look there's so many and we we like what. You

604
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:41.640
<v Speaker 2>DO and i was always a big chat. Forward guys

605
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 2>so we like having you on the SHOW and i read.

606
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 2>Your stuff but there are a lot of mocks, out

607
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:47.559
<v Speaker 2>there a lot of people out there that try to

608
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>do what you do and, others do and a lot

609
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>of them have a falling a little bit as a

610
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:53.599
<v Speaker 2>result of the combine measurements.

611
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>And such so.

612
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Let's play a game a little bit and let's say

613
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.039
<v Speaker 2>he falls to five And the jazz, are just, you

614
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 2>know deciding that that's the direction they're they're wanting.

615
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:03.079
<v Speaker 1>TO go i don't know if he'll.

616
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:05.720
<v Speaker 2>BE there i don't know if they, like him but

617
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 2>if It Is ace bailey, At, five raphael tell jazz

618
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:12.319
<v Speaker 2>fans what you think he can be as a professional

619
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 2>when he's, fully developed.

620
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.839
<v Speaker 5>If he maximizes. HIS potential, i mean you're talking about

621
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 5>a guy that is just able to score and score

622
00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:27.039
<v Speaker 5>with the best, of them still has a ways. TO

623
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:31.000
<v Speaker 5>go i don't know why his stock would be dropping

624
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:34.319
<v Speaker 5>because he didn't measure out at. Six ten i've had

625
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:36.839
<v Speaker 5>people tell, me like if you went to games and

626
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 5>if you, saw him then you knew he, Wasn't sixten

627
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:42.680
<v Speaker 5>so why would this cock drop down because he didn't

628
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.640
<v Speaker 5>measure out out at SIXTEN but i mean, in shoes

629
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.799
<v Speaker 5>he's probably what six' nine and a, half in shoes

630
00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:49.720
<v Speaker 5>and you play the, game AND shoes so i can't

631
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:53.559
<v Speaker 5>imagine his stock falling week. Because of that but if

632
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:55.279
<v Speaker 5>he puts, IT all together i mean he's. HAD some

633
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.119
<v Speaker 5>games i think he had a game where he was

634
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.799
<v Speaker 5>like thirteen or fifteen. From the floor he had another

635
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:02.839
<v Speaker 5>game he was like. THIRTEEN of, twenty i mean when,

636
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:05.799
<v Speaker 5>he is going he's just a guy that can just

637
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:10.319
<v Speaker 5>make some of the most difficult. Shots look easy when,

638
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:13.599
<v Speaker 5>HE was guarded i mean he made like forty four percent.

639
00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:17.160
<v Speaker 5>Of his threes. IT'S just stylistically i think some people

640
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:21.400
<v Speaker 5>are just not a fan of his heavy reliance on,

641
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:24.039
<v Speaker 5>mid range shooting and then you know the mid range

642
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:27.559
<v Speaker 5>is not considered the most efficient shot as far. As

643
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.400
<v Speaker 5>his analytics but if he, puts it together you have

644
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.039
<v Speaker 5>a guy, that can rebound that should be a weak,

645
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:35.920
<v Speaker 5>site shot blocker that can, space the floor and that

646
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:37.960
<v Speaker 5>could be a guy that when you need a bucket

647
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:39.279
<v Speaker 5>at the end of, the shot clock he can.

648
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:43.240
<v Speaker 2>GET you, one I know the cooper flag is Gonna Be.

649
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:45.799
<v Speaker 2>A dallas maverick, and of course off the, board OF

650
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:48.160
<v Speaker 2>one and i think at the start of the college

651
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:50.359
<v Speaker 2>basketball season maybe there was a bit, of a debate,

652
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:53.920
<v Speaker 2>but he, clearly you know decided that debate. On his

653
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 2>own let me. Just ask, you you know you hear

654
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:58.839
<v Speaker 2>a Lot of. The kauhi stuff there are a lot,

655
00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:02.079
<v Speaker 2>of you know a lot of. COMPS going AROUND i

656
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:04.079
<v Speaker 2>sometimes i. DON'T love comps i think it puts a

657
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:06.599
<v Speaker 2>bad idea in a fan's mind and sets a prospect.

658
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Up for failure but just are you among the PEOPLE

659
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>or ol fa all that believe that?

660
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>He's generationally special, and you know Do you think dallas

661
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:18.359
<v Speaker 2>really has this superstar type talent that Could Be an

662
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:20.039
<v Speaker 2>all star for ten to fifteen YEARS?

663
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 8>In?

664
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:22.359
<v Speaker 1>THE nba yeah.

665
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:26.279
<v Speaker 5>I Think, so i mean the word generational talent is just.

666
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:28.920
<v Speaker 5>Up For debate like i've had this conversation, a few

667
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:33.759
<v Speaker 5>Times Like is carrie irving? A Generational Talent is anthony davis?

668
00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:36.880
<v Speaker 5>A generational talent just throwing names out there that. PEOPLE have,

669
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.480
<v Speaker 5>ARGUED i mean i have even Had People say dwayne

670
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:42.640
<v Speaker 5>wade isn't. A GENERATIONAL talent so I don't think cooper

671
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:47.440
<v Speaker 5>has to be quote unquote generational to have Like a

672
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:50.440
<v Speaker 5>special hall of. Fame type career BUT one thing i

673
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.440
<v Speaker 5>will Say about the cooper FLAG comps that i actually

674
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:56.720
<v Speaker 5>like is that this is probably the First guy that

675
00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:02.160
<v Speaker 5>i've seen where it's like. Cross racial Comparisons usually a

676
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:04.680
<v Speaker 5>european is only Compared to a european player, and so

677
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.400
<v Speaker 5>ON and so, i think like when it, comes to

678
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:11.680
<v Speaker 5>comparisons you have to have a wide range of comparisons

679
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:13.720
<v Speaker 5>if you're gonna. Go THAT way and i know that

680
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:16.319
<v Speaker 5>there are some teams that they make players or they

681
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:21.119
<v Speaker 5>make their scouts Not only Compare, europeans to europeans or

682
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:23.960
<v Speaker 5>white players to white players. Or so On so with

683
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:28.240
<v Speaker 5>cooper being compared To, Everyone from Kawhi i've seen, ak

684
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:30.920
<v Speaker 5>forty seven who you guys are obviously Familiar, With in

685
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:35.200
<v Speaker 5>utah i've seen some people Compare. HIM to tatum i

686
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 5>just think nobody knows what he is because he has

687
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.160
<v Speaker 5>so many ways that he can. Impact the game he

688
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:43.519
<v Speaker 5>can be a mix of a little bit of everything

689
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.759
<v Speaker 5>because he's such, a good defender he's. A good passer

690
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 5>he shocked the ball a lot better. THAN anyone expected

691
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:52.119
<v Speaker 5>i don't think anyone thought he was gonna shoot thirty

692
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.680
<v Speaker 5>and a half percent FROM three but i do think

693
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:56.160
<v Speaker 5>he's going. TO be good i think if he puts,

694
00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:58.920
<v Speaker 5>it ALL together which i think he, has a, HIGH

695
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.279
<v Speaker 5>high floor i see him as A Multi. TIME all

696
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:02.920
<v Speaker 5>star i just don't know if he's LIKE. YOUR one

697
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:05.519
<v Speaker 5>a i don't know if he's your YOUR your one

698
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 5>a on. The championship team but if HE'S, your one.

699
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 5>B that's, good I Mean there's anthony DAVIS. THE one

700
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:13.320
<v Speaker 5>a i. Don't think so BUT, as One b the lakers,

701
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:16.599
<v Speaker 5>Won A championship So i think cooper could have, a

702
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.159
<v Speaker 5>you Know Multi, time all Star MULTI Time all. Nba

703
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.079
<v Speaker 5>ALL defense so i just don't know if. He's YOUR

704
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:25.320
<v Speaker 5>closer but i.

705
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Could be wrong let.

706
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:29.639
<v Speaker 2>Me ask you i've seen a couple of mock Drafts

707
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.079
<v Speaker 2>That have jeremiah fears Going to the, Jazz at five

708
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.360
<v Speaker 2>and you brought. This up earlier it's, a GOOD point

709
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>and i honestly can't.

710
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Speak.

711
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.239
<v Speaker 2>TO it uh i know that there are some in

712
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:43.119
<v Speaker 2>the organization That Don't think keyante george is going to

713
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:46.639
<v Speaker 2>be a rotational piece for a good player, for excuse

714
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:49.880
<v Speaker 2>me for a good team. In pro basketball they like

715
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:51.920
<v Speaker 2>the call, Of your kid but if you're lead guard

716
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.760
<v Speaker 2>to shoot shooting twenty five percent from THREE in the

717
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:57.119
<v Speaker 2>nba in. Twenty twenty five you're probably not gonna win a.

718
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Lot of games so maybe on paper you look, at

719
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:02.119
<v Speaker 2>and say, wait a second they've got. Some young guards

720
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:03.920
<v Speaker 2>i'm not sure they like any of their young guards.

721
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.639
<v Speaker 2>An awful lot so If It is jeremiah, fears at

722
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:09.440
<v Speaker 2>five which some people are, kind of prognosticated what kind of?

723
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Prospect is he raphael.

724
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:14.360
<v Speaker 5>Hes a guy really. LIKE a lot i think MY

725
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.159
<v Speaker 5>brother and i were probably the first to put him

726
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:19.960
<v Speaker 5>in the top ten Range, back in december and it sounded,

727
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 5>crazy back then but he has the ability to consistently

728
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:26.719
<v Speaker 5>get two feet, in the paint which Is Something that

729
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:29.440
<v Speaker 5>isaiah khleier was able to do with just his speed.

730
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:32.679
<v Speaker 5>And HIS aggressiveness but i Think, that with fears you

731
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:35.320
<v Speaker 5>have to look at how. YOUNG he, was i mean

732
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:39.440
<v Speaker 5>he's supposed to be at least either Preparing for the

733
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:42.480
<v Speaker 5>prom or just finish Going, to the prom and instead

734
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.400
<v Speaker 5>he's PREPARING for. The nba draft he was the go

735
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.000
<v Speaker 5>to guy AND a, tough SEC conference like, i mentioned

736
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.280
<v Speaker 5>earlier not afraid, of the, moment hit game. Win a

737
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:53.400
<v Speaker 5>shot but they intrigued with him as his ability to

738
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 5>consistently get two feet. In the paint he can create.

739
00:35:56.360 --> 00:36:00.639
<v Speaker 5>His own, shot he's, tough he's competitive and he's to

740
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:03.880
<v Speaker 5>has a long ways to go as far as like reaching,

741
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:07.800
<v Speaker 5>his FULL potential and i, think for him THE sky's

742
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:09.679
<v Speaker 5>actually i think the sky's the. LIMIT for him i

743
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:11.880
<v Speaker 5>think he could be one of the two or three

744
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.880
<v Speaker 5>best players in this draft that we're talking about five.

745
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:15.719
<v Speaker 5>Years From now.

746
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Cooper flags teammate Duke, kan K nipple the malawatch. Kid

747
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.960
<v Speaker 2>is Intriguing but The Jazz, WITH walker kestler i can't

748
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:25.639
<v Speaker 2>imagine they'd Want to add Malawatch next to walker unless

749
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:27.360
<v Speaker 2>they're going to Move, on FROM walker which i don't.

750
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Think they'll do he's Extension eligible and i'm hearing they,

751
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>will EXTEND him which i think is. The right thing

752
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:35.519
<v Speaker 2>but tell Us about kN kinneple, a little bit another

753
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:37.199
<v Speaker 2>name that has kind of been Linked to the jazz

754
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Potentially at five and do you think five is too High?

755
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:43.239
<v Speaker 1>To, take knipple yeah five.

756
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.079
<v Speaker 5>IS too HIGH i mean i think, at number five

757
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:48.440
<v Speaker 5>especially if you're A, team like utah you're looking for

758
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:51.920
<v Speaker 5>someone that you think can be. A, franchise guy now

759
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 5>is it easy to get a franchise. Guy, at FIVE

760
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:58.320
<v Speaker 5>no but i think you're in a situation where you're

761
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.920
<v Speaker 5>not just looking for, another CONNECTIVE piece and I, THINK

762
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 5>for tom i think that's going to be his ROLE

763
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:08.960
<v Speaker 5>in the nba is as, a connective passer floor spacer.

764
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:12.559
<v Speaker 5>Guy that competes and the role that He played at

765
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:16.039
<v Speaker 5>duke where he, wasn't the man is going to be

766
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:18.159
<v Speaker 5>the role that he PLAYS in the nba. In MY

767
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:22.159
<v Speaker 5>opinion so i don't THINK five is I don't think

768
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:24.840
<v Speaker 5>i think five is too. High for him up Like That.

769
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:30.559
<v Speaker 2>JEG or demon, byu point guard there's like this undercurrent

770
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:32.880
<v Speaker 2>of Fear that the jazz are going to draft him

771
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 2>at five BECAUSE he's a byu Guy and the jazz

772
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:40.599
<v Speaker 2>owner ALSO helps. Bankroll byu basketball, as you know it

773
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:44.599
<v Speaker 2>was interesting to watch him. Evolve this year oftentimes he

774
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.280
<v Speaker 2>had a lot of trouble against Pressure in, the Big

775
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Twelve and kevin Young Would play dallan hall against teams

776
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 2>that Would press because jegor just couldn't. Really handle it

777
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:58.000
<v Speaker 2>he's young and this was his first experience playing really.

778
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Physical college basketball the measure there he can. REALLY pass.

779
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 2>It i understand the combine stuff was a good. Look

780
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.159
<v Speaker 2>for him do you think there's any chance that he's

781
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:10.559
<v Speaker 2>in play at five and where do you think ultimately he?

782
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:14.559
<v Speaker 5>Lands, AND why YEAH i mean I think there's i think.

783
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 5>THERE'S a, chance I mean the utah has had a

784
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:20.920
<v Speaker 5>small backcourt for the. LAST few years i do think.

785
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:24.480
<v Speaker 5>THERE'S a, chance i mean everything that you mentioned before could.

786
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:27.320
<v Speaker 5>Be A factor and i guess it just Depends on

787
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:31.159
<v Speaker 5>how utah sees him or sees his potential. As a

788
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:35.320
<v Speaker 5>shooter I've been following yegor since he was. FIFTEEN years

789
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:38.079
<v Speaker 5>old I went to madrid to. Watch him play i've

790
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:41.800
<v Speaker 5>talked to him in person. A few times i really

791
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:44.639
<v Speaker 5>like him, as A kid and i could understand why

792
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:48.559
<v Speaker 5>a team can just. Fall for him but the concerns,

793
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.800
<v Speaker 5>are there about, like you said how. He HANDLES pressure

794
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:55.079
<v Speaker 5>and i literally just spoke to a scout from a

795
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:58.760
<v Speaker 5>team a couple hours ago, and, He said yes yegor

796
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Speaker 5>probably helped himself with how well he measured and the

797
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:04.599
<v Speaker 5>fact that he shot the. Ball really well but he

798
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:07.920
<v Speaker 5>said that the thing that everybody wants to see is how.

799
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:12.000
<v Speaker 5>Tough he is can he compete when there's smaller guards

800
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:16.079
<v Speaker 5>that are just defending Him Like, a jose alvarado or

801
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:18.039
<v Speaker 5>can he bring the, ball up court up the Court

802
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 5>Against the drew. Holliday type defender and, the scout said

803
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:23.760
<v Speaker 5>that's something that you won't see in the pre draft

804
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:26.199
<v Speaker 5>process because he's probably not going to. Go against anybody

805
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:29.079
<v Speaker 5>he didn't Play. At the combine so whoever drafts him

806
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:34.159
<v Speaker 5>is going to have to believe that the areas that

807
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:37.199
<v Speaker 5>he struggled, with this year whether whether it's the shooting or,

808
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.800
<v Speaker 5>sometimes being assertive that they can get the best. Out

809
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:43.639
<v Speaker 5>OF him but i do think it's realistic that he

810
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:45.679
<v Speaker 5>could be In play, for utah five or maybe they

811
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:46.599
<v Speaker 5>trade down. To get him.

812
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:50.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm, not sure guys also out, of Twenty one and

813
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 2>i'm not going to pin you to a name. At

814
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:56.679
<v Speaker 2>twenty one i'll, just ask, you generally speaking do you

815
00:39:56.719 --> 00:39:59.599
<v Speaker 2>believe this draft is deep enough that some options at

816
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:02.360
<v Speaker 2>twenty one one could? Be intriguing enough, and you, Know

817
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:05.039
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting raphael is the Better picks the jazz have

818
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:08.360
<v Speaker 2>made ever since the ownership change in the front office

819
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:12.840
<v Speaker 2>change have, been later, On You, Know Kyle. Philipowski isaiah

820
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.880
<v Speaker 2>collier we'll see What. Happens with, taylor he's hurt but

821
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:18.639
<v Speaker 2>obviously it was a Rough look for. Cody last year

822
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.519
<v Speaker 2>no one's anointing or dismissing based off.

823
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Of one YEAR.

824
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:25.519
<v Speaker 2>In the nba but this is a front office that

825
00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:27.679
<v Speaker 2>shown the ability to find some things. In the, twenties

826
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:29.760
<v Speaker 2>generally speaking what sort of talent would be there.

827
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 1>At, twenty one.

828
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:34.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah there's A player that i Really, like for utah

829
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:40.000
<v Speaker 5>and That is the greek prospect Named. Meopliss ab dallas

830
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:43.360
<v Speaker 5>i've been higher on him. THAN the consensus i think

831
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:45.519
<v Speaker 5>that if he would have went to, college this year

832
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:48.519
<v Speaker 5>we'd be talking about him as, a lottery Pick Similar

833
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:53.320
<v Speaker 5>to Jegor Demon and kaspar shakachonas and some of the.

834
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:56.960
<v Speaker 5>Other international players he just didn't. Have the opportunity he didn't.

835
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<v Speaker 5>Go to College And, Then Vin sarasi noah singhe Are,

836
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 5>playing in germany but they're playing on a team that

837
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:09.199
<v Speaker 5>gives young, players the Opportunity and most european teams really

838
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:12.960
<v Speaker 5>don't give young. Players an opportunity they, everything is, win

839
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.519
<v Speaker 5>win now and they think that it's better to. Win

840
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.880
<v Speaker 5>with veterans so with, that Being said our dallas, is

841
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:21.039
<v Speaker 5>six' eight. HE'S a good passer i think he's one

842
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:25.360
<v Speaker 5>of the better athletes in this draft as far, as

843
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:29.719
<v Speaker 5>the guard position plus. He has positional side he played.

844
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:32.440
<v Speaker 5>Well at the combine he not, going to open shots

845
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:35.239
<v Speaker 5>but he didn't really have the opportunity to play much with.

846
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:38.039
<v Speaker 5>All in his hands, SO at twenty one, i think

847
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:40.760
<v Speaker 5>for him if he, is a point guard then you

848
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:42.639
<v Speaker 5>got a six. To eight point guard, but if he's

849
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.519
<v Speaker 5>not because of his size and, his ability to shoot

850
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.519
<v Speaker 5>it gives you some flexibility into how. You can use

851
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.519
<v Speaker 5>them and with, all that being said if he does

852
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:54.880
<v Speaker 5>end up, going to college route which we may find

853
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:56.960
<v Speaker 5>out in the, NEXT couple of days i think he

854
00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:00.840
<v Speaker 5>ends up being a lottery picked. Him at twenty one,

855
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:04.159
<v Speaker 5>you get a steal Another steal for the jazz later

856
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:06.760
<v Speaker 5>one in the. Outside of, The, lottery.

857
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:08.199
<v Speaker 1>All, right Raphael last thing and.

858
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll set you loose you, referenced his Name earlier and

859
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.960
<v Speaker 2>everything i've seen every Time i've, Watched aj debonca, play

860
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:17.119
<v Speaker 2>i'm just, Like Oh my gosh like I'M not sure

861
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:20.039
<v Speaker 2>that byu fans know what. They have down there i'm

862
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.800
<v Speaker 2>not sure that in state college. Basketball fans are ready

863
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:25.239
<v Speaker 2>he might be the best player that, we've ever had

864
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:28.519
<v Speaker 2>here Certainly as a talent it's hard to argue. With

865
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:30.559
<v Speaker 2>any of that we've never had, a, top you know

866
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:35.159
<v Speaker 2>five or even one recruit Play at Either the UNIVERSITY,

867
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.480
<v Speaker 2>of utah or Byu And we, Had dame lillard here

868
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.880
<v Speaker 2>so let's Put a Respect On dame And Andre miller

869
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:43.559
<v Speaker 2>and jimmer furdett and everyone that's played. HERE in the state,

870
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.760
<v Speaker 2>i could keep going but for basketball fans that are,

871
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:49.559
<v Speaker 2>curious but not familiar just what KIND of player IS?

872
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Byu, Getting, in aj Debonca.

873
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, you, Have, ben, horan Right yes Yes certainly keith

874
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:57.280
<v Speaker 2>van horne should. Be ON that, LIST like i said,

875
00:42:57.280 --> 00:42:59.599
<v Speaker 2>i Could keep going but I'm not sure that KEITH had,

876
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:01.559
<v Speaker 2>The TALENT a Did and i think keith himself.

877
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:02.639
<v Speaker 1>Would, probably, Admit.

878
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:04.679
<v Speaker 5>That yeah well, keith went pretty.

879
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 6>High was.

880
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:07.800
<v Speaker 1>NUMBER two number. Two aj.

881
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:12.599
<v Speaker 5>Is specials he's special he's got, the, ideal positional size.

882
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:17.559
<v Speaker 5>Athleticism the shot making he was really, good HIS senior

883
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:19.599
<v Speaker 5>year but i felt like he. WAS a, little bored

884
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.079
<v Speaker 5>i mean he had been dominating high school since, he

885
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:27.440
<v Speaker 5>WAS a freshman and i think that having a new,

886
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 5>CHALLENGE of college basketball i think that's going to bring

887
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:33.239
<v Speaker 5>something else out of him that. We haven't, CONSISTENTLY seen

888
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:35.519
<v Speaker 5>but yeah i mean it's going to be exciting For

889
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.239
<v Speaker 5>the FANS in. UTAH and byu fans i think that,

890
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 5>he has a really really good shot at being. The

891
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:45.159
<v Speaker 5>number one pick but there's two other guys in this

892
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:47.719
<v Speaker 5>class that are that are special Next Year's class And

893
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:51.639
<v Speaker 5>Dan peterson And cameron boozer and jazz fans are Familiar

894
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:54.840
<v Speaker 5>With the Name carlos Boozer and, cameron is Carlos's son

895
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:58.559
<v Speaker 5>but aj is is right up there as far, as

896
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:02.079
<v Speaker 5>the my opinion the best prospects to come out of

897
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:06.320
<v Speaker 5>high school in. The LAST ten years and i think

898
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:09.679
<v Speaker 5>that it's going to be a Year Similar to when

899
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:14.199
<v Speaker 5>zion williamson, was in college basketball even with twenty Two

900
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:17.400
<v Speaker 5>When you have Ben carroll And Chet, holmern and jabari

901
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:20.400
<v Speaker 5>smith where teams felt like if they get one of

902
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 5>those guys that they're going to be a playoff team

903
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:26.400
<v Speaker 5>within the. Year TWO or three And i think if

904
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:30.760
<v Speaker 5>utah DOES get aj then i think that's the franchise

905
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:33.559
<v Speaker 5>guy that, you were hoping for and it could also

906
00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:37.320
<v Speaker 5>be a great consolations tight not the best, way TO

907
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.199
<v Speaker 5>use it but i do think that aj Could be.

908
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:42.639
<v Speaker 5>Better than cooper flat so it could be a BLESSING

909
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.760
<v Speaker 5>in disguise as aj ends up being the number one

910
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:48.199
<v Speaker 5>pick in Twenty twenty six and utah's number one and

911
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:50.400
<v Speaker 5>They missed out on cooper flag. IN twenty twenty five.

912
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:53.639
<v Speaker 2>A lot of jazz fans, Curious. About these prospects rafael where.

913
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Can they go? Get all your work you CAN find

914
00:44:56.440 --> 00:44:57.000
<v Speaker 1>me at nba.

915
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:59.800
<v Speaker 5>Big board dot com. It is my newsletter try to

916
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:02.320
<v Speaker 5>put out an article two or, three times A week

917
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:05.599
<v Speaker 5>but then, I Have My podcast nba Big boards on,

918
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.719
<v Speaker 5>the LOCKED one network and, i HAVE a podcast but

919
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:13.159
<v Speaker 5>i do at the least, five times a. Week Sometimes

920
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:15.840
<v Speaker 5>even more so i'm. Pretty easy, to, fire all.

921
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Right man, thanks for. The time good stuff we'll, Get,

922
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:18.039
<v Speaker 1>you back, soon.

923
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:20.079
<v Speaker 5>Okay no problem, Anytime Let.

924
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Me KNOW Rafael barlow the nba draft is a. Matter

925
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:25.280
<v Speaker 2>of weeks away. June the twenty fifth we will have

926
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:28.000
<v Speaker 2>YOU covered here. ON espn seven hundred i will be

927
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Anchoring Our coverage Alongside Gordy.

928
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Chisa and richard smith and there's a chance we're going to.

929
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Be out and about so if you're a jazz fan,

930
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:36.960
<v Speaker 2>looking to hang, out grab, some dinner some drinks what

931
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:37.400
<v Speaker 2>have you.

932
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:39.639
<v Speaker 1>And watch the draft do it WITH us here.

933
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:43.239
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<v Speaker 2>LIVE in studio today i thought we'd Do that on

943
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:07.400
<v Speaker 2>a tuesday to Get You ready. For nick pacers TONIGHT

944
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:10.960
<v Speaker 2>look back on Okcs. Went over in Minnesota we'll do

945
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:14.320
<v Speaker 2>some Jazz. Offseason basketball with smitty spent Forty Years in the.

946
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Utah jazz front office now good enough to. Give us

947
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:20.119
<v Speaker 2>some time jp Chunga voice of The, royals and the

948
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Stars Host of, the roundball roundup podcast will join Us

949
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:26.920
<v Speaker 2>later on BUT tuesday afternoon more nba basketball with, One

950
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Of OUR Favorites lee ellis Espn Australia. Head Of, global pickup,

951
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:35.000
<v Speaker 2>BUT lee quite frankly i don't mean to make you.

952
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:37.480
<v Speaker 2>FEEL awkward or uncomfortable a little. BIT of a pioneer

953
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that i've ever really talked. To you

954
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:45.199
<v Speaker 2>about this you were among the FIRST podcasters. Covering the

955
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.039
<v Speaker 2>nba basketball is, that a, fair.

956
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:50.880
<v Speaker 6>STATEMENT well SOMEWHAT yes i MEAN i wouldn't say. I

957
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 6>was the pioneer i think that Really Title goes TO

958
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:56.960
<v Speaker 6>skeets pass and jd because they created A podcast before

959
00:46:57.400 --> 00:46:59.960
<v Speaker 6>even i knew. What A podcast, was but i said

960
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:02.039
<v Speaker 6>they did come in and write their coattails, for a

961
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:05.159
<v Speaker 6>while there and we BEGAN THE show on nba tv.

962
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:08.320
<v Speaker 6>Back in twenty, THIRTEEN so you KNOW i wouldn't say

963
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.280
<v Speaker 6>i was the number one draft. Pick in THAT sense

964
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:12.960
<v Speaker 6>i'd say i was. A FREE agent signing but i

965
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.320
<v Speaker 6>certainly LIKE to feel that i made a. Contribution to the,

966
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:18.480
<v Speaker 6>show and you know now it's. Amazing how, many people,

967
00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:21.400
<v Speaker 6>in FACT just today Here, i am in indianapolis a

968
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:22.679
<v Speaker 6>guy came out to me on the, street, AND he

969
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.559
<v Speaker 6>said man i remember You From the Basketball. Jones day's

970
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:28.360
<v Speaker 6>in toronto so that was quite a kind of freaky

971
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:30.559
<v Speaker 6>to sort of still hear that just, out on the,

972
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.599
<v Speaker 6>street because you know that was. AT a, different time,

973
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:36.000
<v Speaker 6>I think you know i don't think when the guys

974
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:38.880
<v Speaker 6>originally Started it Not even twitter or facebook or anything,

975
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:41.519
<v Speaker 6>like that even existed and they were doing a podcast

976
00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:45.039
<v Speaker 6>and they've grown it into. Something that, CONTINUES today in

977
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:48.519
<v Speaker 6>fact i believe it's going to Be twenty years In,

978
00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:52.360
<v Speaker 6>January from WHEN skeets tatts and jd did their very

979
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:56.679
<v Speaker 6>very First podcast back in JD's the. BASEMENT of his

980
00:47:56.760 --> 00:47:59.000
<v Speaker 6>house i think it was back in two Thousand. And

981
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.360
<v Speaker 6>six in, toronto it's quite remarkable how. You know our

982
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:05.679
<v Speaker 6>journeys everybody's. Journey is, slightly different but yes THE seeds

983
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:10.679
<v Speaker 6>of where i am Today were planted in toronto about fifteen.

984
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:12.559
<v Speaker 6>Or sixteen. Years ago for myself.

985
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:14.599
<v Speaker 2>What was the name of the pod YOU GUYS? Had

986
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:15.440
<v Speaker 2>on Nba Tv?

987
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:16.519
<v Speaker 1>Was it no Dunk's?

988
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:18.519
<v Speaker 2>WAS it the starters i honestly can't remember what THE

989
00:48:18.599 --> 00:48:20.039
<v Speaker 2>NAME of the. Nba, Tv, pod.

990
00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:23.000
<v Speaker 6>Was yeah Yeah we WERE THE starters on mba tv

991
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:25.400
<v Speaker 6>AND that was a tv. Show and, the podcast but

992
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.079
<v Speaker 6>yeah did that for six seasons and it was honestly

993
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:31.559
<v Speaker 6>one of those sort of pinched me. Moments literally, EVERY

994
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:33.719
<v Speaker 6>day in fact i remember, saying, TO my wife like

995
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:38.000
<v Speaker 6>I CAN'T believe on nba. Tv wearing plaid shirts i'm

996
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:41.360
<v Speaker 6>talking to. My friends. About basketball you Know so one

997
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.000
<v Speaker 6>day shaq came in, while we were recording got, me

998
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:46.519
<v Speaker 6>In a, HEADLOCKED and i'm like i don't know how to.

999
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:48.840
<v Speaker 6>Explain this to. Anybody is you know people, would, ask

1000
00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:50.519
<v Speaker 6>me like hey DO YOU, get on nba tv like,

1001
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:52.840
<v Speaker 6>That's A cool, JOB and i'm like i can't REALLY

1002
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:54.719
<v Speaker 6>tell you. Because i don't know there wasn't LIKE a.

1003
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:57.320
<v Speaker 6>Blueprint that i followed it was just a few things

1004
00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.480
<v Speaker 6>happened AND the, NEXT thing i know i had the

1005
00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:01.280
<v Speaker 6>biggest man in the world getting you IN. A headlock on.

1006
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:04.639
<v Speaker 6>Tv so, it's, crazy IT'S funny.

1007
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.239
<v Speaker 2>MAN because, i, Can I mean look i'm i'm a basketball.

1008
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Sicko like YOU are AND SO i WATCH nba tv

1009
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:13.360
<v Speaker 2>and i can remember watching back IN the day and

1010
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:15.800
<v Speaker 2>i was watching just some recap or highlight, show, and

1011
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:18.960
<v Speaker 2>they're like hey don't forget, tomorrow at whatever time tune

1012
00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:21.840
<v Speaker 2>into the. Starters a, basketball podcast.

1013
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm, like wait a. SECOND what is this i don't

1014
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:27.760
<v Speaker 1>even know what. Any of this, is and you know now.

1015
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Everybody has a podcast, we podcast this show and if

1016
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:35.480
<v Speaker 2>you're in the ecosystem of, media and sport period chances

1017
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:37.559
<v Speaker 2>are if you don't, have a standalone pod you pod

1018
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.679
<v Speaker 2>your live show, like we do here and would you

1019
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:44.440
<v Speaker 2>would you would you characterize it as something that was

1020
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:47.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of like beyond anything you dared to dream about

1021
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:49.119
<v Speaker 2>as far as how. YOU got into it i always

1022
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.239
<v Speaker 2>find it interesting to hear the origin story of how

1023
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:54.400
<v Speaker 2>people were able to carve out their piece of real

1024
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:56.519
<v Speaker 2>estate in this ecosystem that's really hard to.

1025
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<v Speaker 6>Find, REAL estate, in yeah i mean that's a great

1026
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.320
<v Speaker 6>way putting, it, because you know again no one really

1027
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:04.119
<v Speaker 6>knew what it was or what it. Was GOING to

1028
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:06.559
<v Speaker 6>become and i remember again in the early days speaking

1029
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:09.239
<v Speaker 6>to those guys because, they, had normal JOBS skeets Tasks

1030
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<v Speaker 6>and jd who, I'm referring to here so they would

1031
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<v Speaker 6>record their pot at like six o'clock In, the morning,

1032
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:17.000
<v Speaker 6>over skype you know put, the podcast out there then go.

1033
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<v Speaker 6>About their daily jobs and so there was. No money

1034
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:21.800
<v Speaker 6>in it they weren't like sitting. Back rolling in money

1035
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:23.559
<v Speaker 6>they had to put all their own money. And TIME

1036
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:26.039
<v Speaker 6>into it and jd had just become a father and

1037
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:28.559
<v Speaker 6>they were just trying this thing that no one. Really

1038
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:32.800
<v Speaker 6>knew what happened but Because At, THE time apple iTunes

1039
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<v Speaker 6>i think it was still, called then you know people

1040
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.599
<v Speaker 6>from around the world started listening to it because basketball is,

1041
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.440
<v Speaker 6>such a global sport and that encouraged the guys and

1042
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:43.280
<v Speaker 6>it inspired, them to keep going and eventually They Made,

1043
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.239
<v Speaker 6>it to the score which IS an independent Sports, tv

1044
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:49.960
<v Speaker 6>network in TORONTO AND from their nba tv got hold

1045
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.280
<v Speaker 6>of it and moved Us. All down to, atlanta and,

1046
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:56.639
<v Speaker 6>you know so again the story itself is Sort of

1047
00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:58.440
<v Speaker 6>even when i'm, saying This to you and i've said

1048
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:00.760
<v Speaker 6>this on numerous, Podcasts over the years, i'm, sort of

1049
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:02.880
<v Speaker 6>like man it's amazing how many things just had to

1050
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:05.119
<v Speaker 6>sort of line up and. Be ready to, go and

1051
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:07.719
<v Speaker 6>you know getting visas even to Come and work in

1052
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.360
<v Speaker 6>america is. Not easy as well we have to somehow

1053
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:14.239
<v Speaker 6>convince the immigration, lawyers that, we were you know worthy

1054
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:16.880
<v Speaker 6>of getting work visas. And things LIKE that and, then i,

1055
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:19.320
<v Speaker 6>remember again you know when we're Doing, a podcast in

1056
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:21.920
<v Speaker 6>toronto there, was no time, limit so you know you

1057
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:23.199
<v Speaker 6>can go for an hour or an hour and. A

1058
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:24.960
<v Speaker 6>half or whatever but then WE CAME to the nba

1059
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:27.480
<v Speaker 6>tv and we had a forty four minute show daily

1060
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:30.159
<v Speaker 6>that we HAD to hit and i, remember just thinking,

1061
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:32.920
<v Speaker 6>like oh my god this is like crazy you can't BE.

1062
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:35.079
<v Speaker 6>As loose on tv you certainly have to, dress a

1063
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:36.760
<v Speaker 6>little nice so you have to be a, little more

1064
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 6>you know professional in. How you approach it you can't

1065
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:41.159
<v Speaker 6>certainly can't swear and things like that that you. Can

1066
00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:43.920
<v Speaker 6>on a podcast so it. Was A real adjustment but

1067
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:47.400
<v Speaker 6>i think we all got motivated and inspired by so

1068
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:51.599
<v Speaker 6>many people who saw us, as non former players just

1069
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:54.440
<v Speaker 6>fans of the game trying to bring an. Entertaining angle

1070
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:57.079
<v Speaker 6>to it like we we never claimed to be former

1071
00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:59.679
<v Speaker 6>pro players. Or anything like that we were just, guys

1072
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:03.039
<v Speaker 6>who you know started something new THAT grew. Into a tv,

1073
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:05.400
<v Speaker 6>SHOW and you know i love for the game is

1074
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:08.320
<v Speaker 6>what so many PEOPLE around the world i think could relate.

1075
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:09.840
<v Speaker 6>To AND connect with and i, think.

1076
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 2>IT'S really cool man i always applaud people that have

1077
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:15.239
<v Speaker 2>the courage to, just try stuff like, let's we love

1078
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:15.559
<v Speaker 2>this so.

1079
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's go try it let's see.

1080
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 2>What it turns into let's, Give it some effort let's give,

1081
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:22.239
<v Speaker 2>it some you know some real energy and resources and

1082
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:23.440
<v Speaker 2>stories like.

1083
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:26.360
<v Speaker 1>That are, Really cool all right let's Before We get.

1084
00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:29.840
<v Speaker 2>TO nick pacers tonight, I, SAID this earlier lee i

1085
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:34.280
<v Speaker 2>want to. SEE if You agree i think minnesota last

1086
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:38.599
<v Speaker 2>night beats almost EVERY team in the nba except the team.

1087
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:42.239
<v Speaker 2>They played right like and there's a lot Of conversation

1088
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:46.039
<v Speaker 2>today About Aunt this, and julius randall that and certainly

1089
00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:47.760
<v Speaker 2>there's some things that we can get into. THAT are

1090
00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:51.199
<v Speaker 2>probably fair i thought last night was Far More about

1091
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:54.320
<v Speaker 2>who oklahoma city is As opposed to. WHO minnesota is

1092
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:58.800
<v Speaker 2>not i was quick to be a little bit skeptical

1093
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:02.079
<v Speaker 2>about okas ability to, run through the playoffs only because we.

1094
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Haven't seen it before, but in a vacuum last night

1095
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:09.800
<v Speaker 2>was an, incredibly ENTERTAINING basketball game and I, think if

1096
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:12.679
<v Speaker 2>you're minnesota you're just kind of like they might be

1097
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:15.239
<v Speaker 2>better than. Us and everybody else give me. Your, thoughts, on.

1098
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:17.679
<v Speaker 6>THAT yeah well and i think you know what You've

1099
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:19.679
<v Speaker 6>seen with the thunder is they were the number one seed,

1100
00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:21.800
<v Speaker 6>with a you know by A Mile, in the Western

1101
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:24.719
<v Speaker 6>conference whereas the wolves. Were the sixth seeds, so any

1102
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:27.239
<v Speaker 6>other season if you had the one, versus the sixth

1103
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:30.239
<v Speaker 6>seed the number one seed. Should, Win fairly comfortably now

1104
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:33.360
<v Speaker 6>game three was that season on the line Type, of

1105
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.599
<v Speaker 6>response from minnesota and You Could almost see oklahoma city

1106
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:38.079
<v Speaker 6>kind of let. Go of the rope there a little

1107
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:39.639
<v Speaker 6>bit once he got out of hand, in the second

1108
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:42.960
<v Speaker 6>half but then they regathered and regrouped and sort. Of

1109
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:45.119
<v Speaker 6>showed last night they flexed their muscles, a little, bit,

1110
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:47.039
<v Speaker 6>more saying like hey we are. Better than this team

1111
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:49.840
<v Speaker 6>they have got A few vulnerabilities and i think they.

1112
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:51.599
<v Speaker 6>Exposed THEM last night and i hope you give a

1113
00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:54.000
<v Speaker 6>Lot Of Credit, to shay gilders, alexander because you know

1114
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:56.280
<v Speaker 6>he's almost gone to that point where he was, a

1115
00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:58.559
<v Speaker 6>big fan favorite and now people are starting, to turn

1116
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:01.760
<v Speaker 6>on him criticizing him for the free throw, embellishment whatever

1117
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:04.559
<v Speaker 6>you know. Whatever that really means but he's gone out

1118
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:06.880
<v Speaker 6>there and led his team. And HE handled everything and

1119
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:08.920
<v Speaker 6>i put a lot of it Actually Back into that denver,

1120
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:11.599
<v Speaker 6>nugget series as well where they Looked bad against, the

1121
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:15.159
<v Speaker 6>nuggets at times but as really good teams do they,

1122
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:17.440
<v Speaker 6>get THE job done and. I think that's important i

1123
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:19.119
<v Speaker 6>think that does sort of build you up and get

1124
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:21.760
<v Speaker 6>you ready. For the Next, ROUND whereas, the timblewolves i

1125
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:23.440
<v Speaker 6>mean when you have, A win like that i think

1126
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:26.559
<v Speaker 6>it was Forty two, points in game three it's almost it's.

1127
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:29.400
<v Speaker 6>Almost like too much they, didn't have to fight they

1128
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:32.079
<v Speaker 6>didn't really. Have to do everything they just sort of

1129
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:34.480
<v Speaker 6>everything they. Threw up went in but it wasn't like

1130
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:36.920
<v Speaker 6>they had something really solid to fall back on because

1131
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:39.320
<v Speaker 6>last night they kind of got. Exposed A Little, BIT

1132
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:41.320
<v Speaker 6>and anthony edwards i heard what he, said after the

1133
00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:43.480
<v Speaker 6>game because he's been criticized and. Not taking though shots

1134
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:45.559
<v Speaker 6>he said he. Made the right. PLACE maybe he did

1135
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:47.920
<v Speaker 6>i think there, is an argument there but you also

1136
00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:51.599
<v Speaker 6>expect your start, to, sort of say well It's A

1137
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:55.039
<v Speaker 6>Bit like karl Anthony towns Here in indiana on Monday night,

1138
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:57.519
<v Speaker 6>where or, sunday night excuse me, where, He was like

1139
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.800
<v Speaker 6>right i'm putting my team on my back and we are.

1140
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:03.519
<v Speaker 6>Not LOSING this game and i didn't Really See, that

1141
00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:06.119
<v Speaker 6>from anthony edwards like he. Didn't go down fighting, he

1142
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:09.199
<v Speaker 6>played well enough but it wasn't the sort of epic, performance,

1143
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:10.719
<v Speaker 6>where you thought man he left it all on the.

1144
00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:12.920
<v Speaker 6>TABLE there last night i think he had a little bit.

1145
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:16.400
<v Speaker 6>More in the. Chamber and we'll see now they obviously

1146
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:18.599
<v Speaker 6>go to a Must Win, game in oklahoma, city but

1147
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:21.320
<v Speaker 6>you know, and there's, People Saying, oh man oklahoma, city

1148
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:23.480
<v Speaker 6>LIKE you know the. Nba, Doesn't want that. WELL i'm

1149
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:25.400
<v Speaker 6>the opposite i think this is. GREAT for the league

1150
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:27.199
<v Speaker 6>i think there's, a bit more parody there's, a bit

1151
00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:30.000
<v Speaker 6>more evenness and every, team is a chance. And we're,

1152
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:34.039
<v Speaker 6>seeing that you know We're likely To get Oklahoma the

1153
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:36.239
<v Speaker 6>city and. Indiana in the finals. I'M fine with it

1154
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:38.960
<v Speaker 6>i think these both. FUN teams to watch i love watching,

1155
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:42.199
<v Speaker 6>the YOUNG stars emerge and i think we've set, up

1156
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:44.920
<v Speaker 6>for a. Really really fun finals, however it turns out

1157
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:47.840
<v Speaker 6>because the other one Is maybe We Get, minnesota versus

1158
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:50.480
<v Speaker 6>new york who of course had that incredible trade right

1159
00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:53.840
<v Speaker 6>before training, camp started last season so that would be

1160
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:55.440
<v Speaker 6>a fun way to cut. The season as, WELL but

1161
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:57.840
<v Speaker 6>you know i think, no matter what happens people are

1162
00:55:57.840 --> 00:55:59.880
<v Speaker 6>going to criticize the league and criticize the game, and

1163
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.480
<v Speaker 6>things like that because that's the nature of. Social media

1164
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:05.119
<v Speaker 6>these days but as a fan, And as an analyst.

1165
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:07.639
<v Speaker 6>I'm really enjoying it so.

1166
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:11.199
<v Speaker 2>Let's dig into the ants, stuff for a, Minute because,

1167
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:15.519
<v Speaker 2>you know game three he comes out of the, gates completely,

1168
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:20.280
<v Speaker 2>on fire and certainly if you want to Say more

1169
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:23.760
<v Speaker 2>engaged in game three, OUT of THE gates i guess i.

1170
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Can concede THAT point but what i Saw Last.

1171
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:32.079
<v Speaker 2>Night From oklahoma city as mark dagnoldlets to Move off,

1172
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:34.840
<v Speaker 2>of the Hartenstein stuff he puts, chad into the, five

1173
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:39.360
<v Speaker 2>he goes small and, then, on every dribble handoff on,

1174
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:42.679
<v Speaker 2>every pick and roll on, every off ball action you

1175
00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:46.440
<v Speaker 2>have First of all lout dort who plays defense like,

1176
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:51.000
<v Speaker 2>He's A middle linebacker jalen WILLIAMS who's like, All nba

1177
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:55.679
<v Speaker 2>defense caliber, shay who's six's Eight And then Either Alex

1178
00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:59.000
<v Speaker 2>caruso or casan wallace that are both just absolute. Dogs

1179
00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:02.760
<v Speaker 2>on The perimeter they blitzed ant on every single pick

1180
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:06.320
<v Speaker 2>and roll one hundred. Percent of his drives he was

1181
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:07.960
<v Speaker 2>double teamed every time he put the.

1182
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Ball in the deck they ran.

1183
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:11.679
<v Speaker 2>Two, DEFENDERS at him lee i don't know what you

1184
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:13.159
<v Speaker 2>do if your aunt because.

1185
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:14.960
<v Speaker 1>They're just like you go. Back and watch it there's

1186
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:16.320
<v Speaker 1>no room for him to.

1187
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Get his shots off and he did, MAKE the right

1188
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:22.639
<v Speaker 2>play i thought, more often than not and his teammates,

1189
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:25.840
<v Speaker 2>did knock down shots so you know. You hear The

1190
00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:29.360
<v Speaker 2>inside guys like kenny always talks about if you're one,

1191
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:31.280
<v Speaker 2>OF the great players i need you to take, eighteen

1192
00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:33.480
<v Speaker 2>TO twenty shots then i know kind. Of where you're

1193
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:37.480
<v Speaker 2>at and if those shots are forced in the face of,

1194
00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:40.480
<v Speaker 2>two and three defenders they're. Not high quality Looks so

1195
00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:44.360
<v Speaker 2>what was aunt kind of supposed TO do when the

1196
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:48.239
<v Speaker 2>okc game plan was clearly we are going to throw

1197
00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:50.920
<v Speaker 2>two of these dog defenders at him every time, he

1198
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:52.840
<v Speaker 2>gets the ball and we are going to make.

1199
00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Other players beat us, and they almost did.

1200
00:57:56.360 --> 00:57:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Because they scored forty one points in the fourth quarter

1201
00:57:59.280 --> 00:58:01.320
<v Speaker 2>against one of the best defensive teams that we've seen.

1202
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:03.599
<v Speaker 2>In a long time i'm Just not sure what anne

1203
00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:05.880
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to do last night in the face of

1204
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:07.840
<v Speaker 2>that game plan that was designed to take him.

1205
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Entirely, OUT of, it yeah.

1206
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:12.079
<v Speaker 6>I mean it's again, it's a good question and it's

1207
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:14.559
<v Speaker 6>a fair way to sort of analyze, it because you

1208
00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:16.880
<v Speaker 6>know we, always, sort of say like we want the

1209
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:19.000
<v Speaker 6>guy to step up and, make the big play and

1210
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:21.800
<v Speaker 6>that doesn't necessarily mean, MAKE the. Big, shot i, guess

1211
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.119
<v Speaker 6>so YOU know, from what i saw he had a

1212
00:58:24.119 --> 00:58:26.840
<v Speaker 6>couple of those drives where he. Went, inside fairly quickly

1213
00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:30.440
<v Speaker 6>now if you know, the double is coming then maybe

1214
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:32.840
<v Speaker 6>that's on the Coaching Staff, there of chris finch but

1215
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:35.159
<v Speaker 6>it's also Maybe On on on anthony edward was to

1216
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:37.239
<v Speaker 6>get into that action a little quicker to try, to

1217
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.559
<v Speaker 6>beat that, double or you know see if he can

1218
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:42.519
<v Speaker 6>get a switch to get a defender that you. PREFER to,

1219
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:45.360
<v Speaker 6>have there i mean It's always we're all monday morning

1220
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:47.679
<v Speaker 6>quarterbacks after the game and, we can you know analyze

1221
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:50.199
<v Speaker 6>and criticize. And things like that but he had a

1222
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:52.599
<v Speaker 6>couple of moves because he is so athletic and he

1223
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:56.119
<v Speaker 6>is so fast that he can, cruise inside, to me you.

1224
00:58:56.159 --> 00:58:58.960
<v Speaker 6>Know seemingly at will but last night he did it,

1225
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:00.920
<v Speaker 6>a couple of times but then. He sort of hesitated

1226
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:04.159
<v Speaker 6>and again maybe the leadership, FROM him is like i

1227
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:05.719
<v Speaker 6>don't want to have to. DO it all myself i

1228
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:09.280
<v Speaker 6>want to show trust and. Faith in my, teammates, and

1229
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:11.880
<v Speaker 6>you know again there's, no real right answer because if

1230
00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:14.159
<v Speaker 6>he has one of those games where he goes for

1231
00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:16.519
<v Speaker 6>forty five points or fifty points, or something like that

1232
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:18.760
<v Speaker 6>then maybe people will criticize, them, anyway and say hey

1233
00:59:18.760 --> 00:59:21.679
<v Speaker 6>you got to. Trust your teammates more but. IT'S a,

1234
00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:24.760
<v Speaker 6>TOUGH one I Mean i remember jason tatum's unfortunately his

1235
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:27.599
<v Speaker 6>last game Of The Season in new york city against

1236
00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:29.960
<v Speaker 6>the next he had forty two points and he, was carrying,

1237
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:32.519
<v Speaker 6>his team you know putting them into a spot where

1238
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:34.119
<v Speaker 6>they were going. To win the game, Now they ULTIMATELY

1239
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:37.000
<v Speaker 6>didn't but what i saw from him was a, LEADER

1240
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:39.000
<v Speaker 6>who was like i know these other, guys can, Do

1241
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:40.840
<v Speaker 6>it but tonight i'm going to step. Up and do

1242
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:43.079
<v Speaker 6>it and he was on the way to doing that.

1243
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:47.079
<v Speaker 6>Before unfortunately got injured so, there's, always you know again

1244
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:49.400
<v Speaker 6>it's always, EASY to, look back i think and sort

1245
00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:51.320
<v Speaker 6>of pinpoint things and say you, should have done this he.

1246
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:54.480
<v Speaker 6>Should have, DONE that Either Way i think anthony edwards

1247
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:57.159
<v Speaker 6>will learn from last night's game and we'll see how

1248
00:59:57.159 --> 00:59:59.039
<v Speaker 6>It plays out in game five and not just, for

1249
00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:02.280
<v Speaker 6>THIS season on because i truly think he has got

1250
01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:07.559
<v Speaker 6>that elite level competitiveness in him and ultimately he'll become better.

1251
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:08.639
<v Speaker 1>For it Before.

1252
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:11.719
<v Speaker 2>WE move out East A, thought, on julius, randall who

1253
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:15.679
<v Speaker 2>in fairness has had the best spring that he's EVER had.

1254
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:17.840
<v Speaker 1>As an Nba player, AS a nick fan i.

1255
01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:20.760
<v Speaker 2>CAN speak to it i always was skeptical of THE

1256
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:24.519
<v Speaker 2>way the previous nick team Was built. Only because jalen's

1257
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:27.079
<v Speaker 2>awesome but if your number Two Offensive, option is julius

1258
01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:30.239
<v Speaker 2>randall you're going to run into games like we've run

1259
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:33.119
<v Speaker 2>into over the past two where he is watching, from

1260
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:35.360
<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter like he's watching from the bench, in

1261
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:37.960
<v Speaker 2>THE fourth quarter and i just for, All the ant

1262
01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Stuff i'm looking at, julius one, of seven. Five points

1263
01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:44.440
<v Speaker 2>five turnovers And The, problem with julius randall this has.

1264
01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Always been the deal, if he's not scoring if he's

1265
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:50.960
<v Speaker 2>not involved, offensively and making shots he's just. Not as

1266
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:55.199
<v Speaker 2>engaged defensively and we. Saw it last night so what's

1267
01:00:55.239 --> 01:00:57.440
<v Speaker 2>your take on What We've seen from julius randall over the.

1268
01:00:57.480 --> 01:00:59.199
<v Speaker 1>Past, couple, OF games.

1269
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:01.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah well i mean those First two games in oka

1270
01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:04.360
<v Speaker 6>see and he was really, aggressive from the start almost, Like,

1271
01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:07.280
<v Speaker 6>He was like okay i'm going to show the years,

1272
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:09.320
<v Speaker 6>of my experience here because he was hitting threes and

1273
01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:11.760
<v Speaker 6>he was aggressive and. On for his shot but certainly

1274
01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:14.960
<v Speaker 6>that has Been the criticism of julius, rounds throughout his

1275
01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:17.719
<v Speaker 6>career where some nights he LOOKED like an, all nba

1276
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:21.480
<v Speaker 6>caliber player and other, nights like last night he does

1277
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:23.679
<v Speaker 6>seem to be sleepwalking. A LITTLE bit more and i

1278
01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:26.519
<v Speaker 6>think that consistency is tough for a lot of players

1279
01:01:26.519 --> 01:01:28.599
<v Speaker 6>because you have those good games and then all of

1280
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:30.760
<v Speaker 6>a sudden things? Aren't going your way what do you?

1281
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:33.480
<v Speaker 6>Have as a backup when Do YOU? Go To plan

1282
01:01:33.599 --> 01:01:37.159
<v Speaker 6>b and julius doesn't really, Seem to have, that whereas

1283
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:39.440
<v Speaker 6>you know you would like to see, him go inside

1284
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:42.239
<v Speaker 6>again maybe try, to draw some fout get, some high percentage.

1285
01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:44.639
<v Speaker 6>Looks whatever it is if a, three is not falling

1286
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:47.199
<v Speaker 6>if the mid, range is not falling have something else.

1287
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:50.519
<v Speaker 6>There in your bag and. At times he does but

1288
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:53.440
<v Speaker 6>again it's a little bit frustrating because there are times

1289
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:55.760
<v Speaker 6>where it just seems like he's just not. Focused on,

1290
01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:57.519
<v Speaker 6>the game and again last night was a must Win.

1291
01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:00.880
<v Speaker 6>REALLY for, the wolves i mean obviously they're, still statistically

1292
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:03.280
<v Speaker 6>in it but for, all intents and purposes are going

1293
01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:07.559
<v Speaker 6>to lose. In five games here and it was just

1294
01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:10.679
<v Speaker 6>just A frustrating, way because i thought even though it,

1295
01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:13.119
<v Speaker 6>WAS close last night i Always felt that the, thunder

1296
01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:15.159
<v Speaker 6>WERE in control and i think you know that that

1297
01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:17.320
<v Speaker 6>was sort of. Reflected in the. Score In the end the,

1298
01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:20.599
<v Speaker 6>wolves gave it everything but ultimately they just didn't have

1299
01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:25.199
<v Speaker 6>that same or that same, aggression that they Had you,

1300
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:27.199
<v Speaker 6>know in game three which got, them that huge, win

1301
01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:29.880
<v Speaker 6>And you know the thunder were able to sort of

1302
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:32.440
<v Speaker 6>overcome that like a, pretty embarrassing loss there and they

1303
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:35.079
<v Speaker 6>were able to bounce, back a lot quicker whereas it

1304
01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:37.119
<v Speaker 6>was Almost like maybe the wolves thought all. Their work,

1305
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:40.320
<v Speaker 6>was done who, knows but you know we'll see, the

1306
01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:43.079
<v Speaker 6>playoffs this, year and you know every series seems to be.

1307
01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:45.480
<v Speaker 6>A little bit crazy so, there is, a chance, you

1308
01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:47.480
<v Speaker 6>know if you if you sort, of think About it

1309
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:49.400
<v Speaker 6>that the wolves could still extend this series and get.

1310
01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:52.039
<v Speaker 6>Themselves BACK into it but i think they probably blew.

1311
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Their chance, last night all right before We get to Tonight,

1312
01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:59.519
<v Speaker 2>sunday's game, IN indiana you know i was ready to

1313
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:01.960
<v Speaker 2>turn it off in the second quarter, and, ready to

1314
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:02.519
<v Speaker 2>say okay.

1315
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:05.480
<v Speaker 1>This Is a sweep the. Knicks go, down twenty you

1316
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:07.159
<v Speaker 1>know one of the more under Talked.

1317
01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:09.920
<v Speaker 2>About, dynamics of sunday, lee in my Opinion Is the

1318
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:12.639
<v Speaker 2>way new york closed the second quarter to get. It,

1319
01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:15.039
<v Speaker 2>down to thirteen now that doesn't, sound like a lot

1320
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:18.519
<v Speaker 2>but when they Went down twenty and, halliburton gets the,

1321
01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Steal there's a dunk.

1322
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:21.960
<v Speaker 1>It just felt like there.

1323
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Was no way Back even though the knicks have come back,

1324
01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:27.360
<v Speaker 2>down from you know come back from down twenty points

1325
01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:29.639
<v Speaker 2>a Couple. Times against the celtics the pacers just felt like.

1326
01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:32.920
<v Speaker 2>They Were Built differently when nie, smith hurt his ankle

1327
01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:36.079
<v Speaker 2>that changed the. Scope Of, THE game, on friday i

1328
01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:38.960
<v Speaker 2>said a, couple Of Different times can tom thibodeau find

1329
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:41.880
<v Speaker 2>ten To Fifteen, minutes For Landry, shammitt for delon Wright

1330
01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:45.119
<v Speaker 2>even precious to chew, Who did not play and he

1331
01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:47.360
<v Speaker 2>was able to find some minutes for some, of His

1332
01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:50.360
<v Speaker 2>bench players and jalen, was in foul trouble so of

1333
01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:52.679
<v Speaker 2>course he was limited as far, as HIS minutes go

1334
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:55.440
<v Speaker 2>which i think is good because the starters didn't look

1335
01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:58.599
<v Speaker 2>like they were dying Down the stretch in game three

1336
01:03:58.719 --> 01:04:01.360
<v Speaker 2>because he was able To get, Some rep you know

1337
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:03.239
<v Speaker 2>kat has that stretch to the.

1338
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:05.679
<v Speaker 1>Start of the fourth it reminds you like how special he.

1339
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:09.039
<v Speaker 2>Is when he's engaged but your Main Takeaways with how

1340
01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:11.679
<v Speaker 2>new york came back from that deficit and Got, it,

1341
01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:14.199
<v Speaker 2>done on sunday well it WAS.

1342
01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:18.039
<v Speaker 6>Quite interesting because tj McConnell had a press availability yesterday and,

1343
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:20.039
<v Speaker 6>he was asked like did you guys maybe take you

1344
01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:21.760
<v Speaker 6>from the gas a little bit when they were up

1345
01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:24.519
<v Speaker 6>twenty with about seven minutes to go, in the second

1346
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:27.400
<v Speaker 6>quarter and, he, said you know. Yeah subconsciously you do

1347
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:29.119
<v Speaker 6>you sort of feel like you've got the game in.

1348
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:30.760
<v Speaker 6>Hand a little Bit and then the knicks made a

1349
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:32.760
<v Speaker 6>little push to get it close with at a half

1350
01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:35.639
<v Speaker 6>time and then it was still about double digits going

1351
01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:38.599
<v Speaker 6>into the fourth and It Felt Like then karl anthony

1352
01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:41.039
<v Speaker 6>toown's had four, points and, four, rebounds was like man

1353
01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:42.920
<v Speaker 6>the headlines are not going to be. Kind to, him

1354
01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:45.719
<v Speaker 6>tomorrow you know it's like this guy. Has not stepped

1355
01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.280
<v Speaker 6>up and instead he went out there and delivered one,

1356
01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:50.960
<v Speaker 6>of the best performances not just for the fourth quarter

1357
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:53.679
<v Speaker 6>in about a seven minute stretch there where he had twenty,

1358
01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:55.920
<v Speaker 6>points and eight rebounds, hit the big three and most,

1359
01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:59.599
<v Speaker 6>importantly and most impressively he. Attacked the Rim Too, he

1360
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:02.679
<v Speaker 6>went miles turner he had a. Huge and one dunk

1361
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:05.079
<v Speaker 6>he had another layup where he Just went straight at

1362
01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:07.599
<v Speaker 6>turner and said you're either going To block me or i'm,

1363
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:10.159
<v Speaker 6>getting a basket here and both times he made it

1364
01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:12.480
<v Speaker 6>turned it into. A three point play and so we

1365
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:15.440
<v Speaker 6>know That That Is what karl anthony. Towns is capable

1366
01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:17.599
<v Speaker 6>of and it took basically the next season to be

1367
01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:19.639
<v Speaker 6>on the line there for him, to bring it Out

1368
01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:22.400
<v Speaker 6>and so now i'm really excited. To see the game

1369
01:05:22.440 --> 01:05:23.920
<v Speaker 6>i'm going to be heading to the arena in about

1370
01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:26.119
<v Speaker 6>half an hour OR so here because i really Want

1371
01:05:26.119 --> 01:05:28.199
<v Speaker 6>To see if karl anthony town starts, the game like

1372
01:05:28.239 --> 01:05:29.960
<v Speaker 6>that and if he comes, out, AND he says hey

1373
01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:32.719
<v Speaker 6>i am the best player out there and these guys

1374
01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:34.480
<v Speaker 6>can't defend, me ONE on one and i want to

1375
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:36.400
<v Speaker 6>see him put his team in a position where they

1376
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:38.480
<v Speaker 6>don't have to come back, from twenty points down they

1377
01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:40.719
<v Speaker 6>don't have to sort of be in that position, where

1378
01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:44.159
<v Speaker 6>it's like okay all, or nothing right now instead have

1379
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:47.119
<v Speaker 6>some sort, of A comfortable game because i Think that's

1380
01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:50.039
<v Speaker 6>What The knicks and karl. Anthonytowns are capable of we just.

1381
01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:53.400
<v Speaker 6>Don't see it consistently but that. WAS another, remarkable Game

1382
01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:55.559
<v Speaker 6>i mean jalb brunson. Was in foul trouble he had four.

1383
01:05:55.559 --> 01:05:58.480
<v Speaker 6>In the first half pounds is. Often In foul trouble,

1384
01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:01.519
<v Speaker 6>landry shammock came out gave them a, decent little stretch

1385
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:03.800
<v Speaker 6>there hit a couple of baskets and the, lot Right.

1386
01:06:04.119 --> 01:06:07.159
<v Speaker 6>ANOTHER guy another vet i think he can handle the possessions,

1387
01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:09.760
<v Speaker 6>better than campaign anyway, for a Few Minutes, and so

1388
01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:12.599
<v Speaker 6>tom thibodeau he obviously mixed up the. Starting lineup as

1389
01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:15.280
<v Speaker 6>Well He. Went with mitchell. Robinson he changed things now

1390
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:17.840
<v Speaker 6>didn't necessarily work straight away because they were down to,

1391
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:20.320
<v Speaker 6>twenty as we discussed but. They got the Win and

1392
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:24.280
<v Speaker 6>so now i'm really Fascinated To see does tom tipoteau

1393
01:06:24.360 --> 01:06:26.079
<v Speaker 6>now go a little deeper into that bench and not,

1394
01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:29.400
<v Speaker 6>necessarily with more players but Give those guys like shaman

1395
01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:31.559
<v Speaker 6>and write a little bit more trust and a little

1396
01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:35.519
<v Speaker 6>bit more time to save, the legs, of Guys you

1397
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:38.159
<v Speaker 6>know Like bridges and like brunton who, have just, played

1398
01:06:38.199 --> 01:06:41.239
<v Speaker 6>HEAVY heavy minutes because i think that's the Only real

1399
01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:43.119
<v Speaker 6>way the knicks are going to survive. And extend this

1400
01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:45.760
<v Speaker 6>series they've got to get, a few more guys a

1401
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:48.000
<v Speaker 6>few more minutes and hold up their. End of The,

1402
01:06:48.039 --> 01:06:51.480
<v Speaker 6>bargain because the pacers Who May be without nie smith tonight,

1403
01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:54.039
<v Speaker 6>hasn't been announced yet they can write a lot like

1404
01:06:54.079 --> 01:06:56.239
<v Speaker 6>that because they already play, nine OR ten Guys And

1405
01:06:56.280 --> 01:06:59.440
<v Speaker 6>i know rick carlyle Has Some guys like ben sheppard

1406
01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:01.320
<v Speaker 6>who can come out there and play. Some really Good

1407
01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:04.559
<v Speaker 6>minutes so THE knicks saw Something i think in game

1408
01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:07.400
<v Speaker 6>three and now we're going to be really Interested to

1409
01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:10.400
<v Speaker 6>see if. Tibeau Sticks with, that in game four there.

1410
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Were plus twelve in The seventeen minutes without jalen in

1411
01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:16.199
<v Speaker 2>minus six and the thirty one. Minutes, which he, played

1412
01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:20.400
<v Speaker 2>that's of course not An Indictment on who jalen brunson,

1413
01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:22.599
<v Speaker 2>is as a player but it does make you curious

1414
01:07:22.639 --> 01:07:26.280
<v Speaker 2>about some of the defensive potential with some. Of the Other,

1415
01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:30.039
<v Speaker 2>lineups for at, carlisle with, his gamesmanship of course has

1416
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:30.679
<v Speaker 2>made a.

1417
01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Couple of comments that.

1418
01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:33.559
<v Speaker 2>Have been SOMEWHAT interesting but before, I say you lose

1419
01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:37.000
<v Speaker 2>indiana's a two point. Five Point Favorite tonight if, nie

1420
01:07:37.079 --> 01:07:40.320
<v Speaker 2>smith can't Go My, guess it's ben shephard who's been

1421
01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:42.920
<v Speaker 2>solid as a perimitterive defensive player and a guy that

1422
01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:43.360
<v Speaker 2>can knock.

1423
01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Down threes AS well so before, i set you Loose?

1424
01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you have Aleen?

1425
01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Do you have aleen as far as how you think

1426
01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:50.039
<v Speaker 2>we're going to, see it go tonight that's.

1427
01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:53.639
<v Speaker 6>A pretty good Line i favor THE pacers because again

1428
01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:56.239
<v Speaker 6>i think they were somewhat Embarrassed how they lost game

1429
01:07:56.280 --> 01:07:59.320
<v Speaker 6>three and they know they, stole home court, advantage which

1430
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:01.280
<v Speaker 6>is great but the worst thing is if you have

1431
01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:03.320
<v Speaker 6>home court advantage and. You GIVE it back so i

1432
01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:05.400
<v Speaker 6>Think they know that game five is going to be

1433
01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:07.320
<v Speaker 6>tough No Matter What, in new york city that we.

1434
01:08:07.400 --> 01:08:09.519
<v Speaker 6>KNOW we're going There i think the pacers want to

1435
01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:12.119
<v Speaker 6>make sure they take care of business tonight because they

1436
01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:14.239
<v Speaker 6>don't want to get into A situation where the knicks

1437
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:16.680
<v Speaker 6>potentially turn this around and, get up three Too because,

1438
01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:19.159
<v Speaker 6>we know game seven if, it goes that far Would

1439
01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:20.960
<v Speaker 6>Be Back. In New york city the pace has, won there,

1440
01:08:21.039 --> 01:08:23.760
<v Speaker 6>last year of course, but again every season, Every SERIES

1441
01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:26.399
<v Speaker 6>is different So i think the, paces ARE okay tonight

1442
01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:27.720
<v Speaker 6>but i think it is going to be. A pretty

1443
01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:28.960
<v Speaker 6>tight one i think it's going to be. A low

1444
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:31.479
<v Speaker 6>scoring affair i think both teams are going to try

1445
01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:33.640
<v Speaker 6>to keep it a little bit slower than normally and.

1446
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<v Speaker 6>Just Keep it tight So i'll. TAKE the paces well

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<v Speaker 6>i think, they probably do cover.

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<v Speaker 1>But not by much where can People go find you

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<v Speaker 1>worklee and follow?

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<v Speaker 2>Along?

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01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:44.359
<v Speaker 1>With The journey yeah.

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01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:46.960
<v Speaker 6>Just lee ellis on all, The, Social, channels there twitter

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<v Speaker 6>INSTAGRAM TikTok l E i G H E l L,

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<v Speaker 6>I s and yeah i'll be, at The arena tonight

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<v Speaker 6>so I'LL be sharing what i see behind the scenes and.

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<v Speaker 6>All that, good, stuff thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Sir enjoy the, Game, we'll chat soon.

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01:08:58.920 --> 01:09:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay thanks having me, leellis old school podcaster LEGEND as far.

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<v Speaker 2>As nba podcasters Go he is In indianapolis for The

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<v Speaker 2>knicks and The Pacers tonight at. Lee ellis on socializ

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<v Speaker 4>The pride of norwich connecticut and An Adopted Son. Of

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<v Speaker 4>salt lake city after Forty Years, with the utah jazz

1489
01:10:22.199 --> 01:10:25.800
<v Speaker 4>there's no one better. To Talk Some hoops richard smitty

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01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:30.079
<v Speaker 4>smith Is back ON the drive. On Espn Seven hundred.

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01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:34.439
<v Speaker 2>Richard smitty smith Is back ON the drive, on espn

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01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:38.920
<v Speaker 2>seven Hundred, Live In, studio smitty, happy tuesday my, friend how?

1493
01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:40.239
<v Speaker 1>ARE you sir man i am.

1494
01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:41.199
<v Speaker 8>DOING a good spress i.

1495
01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:44.439
<v Speaker 9>HAD a good weekend i had had the opportunity to

1496
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:47.600
<v Speaker 9>uh to, play a little golf starting A long weekend

1497
01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:52.960
<v Speaker 9>on friday with an all star foursome that included you

1498
01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:56.560
<v Speaker 9>right at the, top of The Chart and And Tim.

1499
01:10:56.640 --> 01:10:59.359
<v Speaker 9>Howells and wesley ruff That was a fun that was a.

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01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:01.960
<v Speaker 9>Fun day for me and then of course by the

1501
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:04.600
<v Speaker 9>rest of my weekend went downhill because when you start

1502
01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:06.960
<v Speaker 9>right at the top of the mountain and you're hanging

1503
01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:10.760
<v Speaker 9>Out With like The Mount Rushmore of salt, lake city

1504
01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:13.079
<v Speaker 9>sports scene and then you have nowhere.

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01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:15.479
<v Speaker 8>To go But downhill that's what that's what it, was

1506
01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:16.000
<v Speaker 8>Like For me.

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01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:18.600
<v Speaker 2>The Mount Rushmore Of the salt, lake, City sports Scene Me.

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01:11:18.760 --> 01:11:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Tim and west, ralphie, you, get well hey hey you.

1509
01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Guys are right there you, guys are. Right there right

1510
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:25.840
<v Speaker 2>there they're still. They're, still carving.

1511
01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:26.319
<v Speaker 1>It sure it's.

1512
01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:31.560
<v Speaker 9>STILL going on, now i, imagine Somehow You know soon president

1513
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:34.760
<v Speaker 9>trump will, fit in there somewhere because apparently he wants

1514
01:11:34.800 --> 01:11:35.359
<v Speaker 9>to be in all.

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01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:37.439
<v Speaker 8>The all, the, stuff, but, sure.

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01:11:37.359 --> 01:11:40.479
<v Speaker 1>Sure yeah sure well it was. It was a pleasure thank.

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01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:42.840
<v Speaker 1>You for The, invite oh hey spence you.

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01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:44.159
<v Speaker 8>You are playing well for all of.

1519
01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:47.000
<v Speaker 9>Our listeners who here you talked about golfer going out

1520
01:11:47.119 --> 01:11:50.039
<v Speaker 9>hack or. Whatever you you are you have a very

1521
01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:52.600
<v Speaker 9>nice swing and you can really tag the ball.

1522
01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:54.359
<v Speaker 8>When you get. A, HOLD of it. Now I like

1523
01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:55.840
<v Speaker 8>that and i think It.

1524
01:11:55.920 --> 01:11:58.760
<v Speaker 9>Was sixteen at bontaville we were in the middle of

1525
01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:00.880
<v Speaker 9>the fairway and YOU had a nice i don't. Know

1526
01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:03.680
<v Speaker 9>what it was one eighty or something and to the green,

1527
01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:05.560
<v Speaker 9>and you hit it and the thing just took off

1528
01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:08.239
<v Speaker 9>and none of us. Knew where it went and we

1529
01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:11.399
<v Speaker 9>just saw it fly over, the over the trap and

1530
01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:15.680
<v Speaker 9>over the trees and over the next tea box. And

1531
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:19.239
<v Speaker 9>then it disappeared and we looked at each other like

1532
01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:22.319
<v Speaker 9>that ball must have gone like two twenty.

1533
01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:24.279
<v Speaker 8>THIRTY yards or something i don't, know where it, went.

1534
01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:25.800
<v Speaker 1>BUT selection.

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01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:30.199
<v Speaker 9>SIT sir i turned, I. TURNED to you spence i don't.

1536
01:12:30.199 --> 01:12:32.880
<v Speaker 9>Think you hear IT heard, Me, when i said spence. They,

1537
01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:34.600
<v Speaker 9>moved the green. Yeah it's over.

1538
01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:36.279
<v Speaker 8>Here. It's over here yeah.

1539
01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:38.479
<v Speaker 1>And, AT part five. TOO i blew.

1540
01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:39.840
<v Speaker 2>It I blew it so i put, it over the,

1541
01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:42.479
<v Speaker 2>green had to drop was able to, get up and.

1542
01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Down which was nice But Great. TO see tim outse

1543
01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:46.760
<v Speaker 2>i haven't seen him. In a long time.

1544
01:12:47.640 --> 01:12:50.279
<v Speaker 9>Tim is him is. A very good golfer he's been.

1545
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:52.840
<v Speaker 9>Playing All, his life, and tim you know. He really,

1546
01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:55.319
<v Speaker 9>gives back you know he's been involved for a lot

1547
01:12:55.359 --> 01:12:58.000
<v Speaker 9>of Years with the first tea program Here and here

1548
01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:01.560
<v Speaker 9>in utah that that helps some young kids get involved

1549
01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:04.600
<v Speaker 9>with the game of golf and and and exposing them

1550
01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:07.000
<v Speaker 9>to the to. The game Early on and and tim's

1551
01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:09.279
<v Speaker 9>been a, big proponent of that and and the heead

1552
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:12.000
<v Speaker 9>of that for for for, a while, as well and

1553
01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:14.640
<v Speaker 9>uh it's Still acted them that and it was good

1554
01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:16.000
<v Speaker 9>to hang out with him.

1555
01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:18.119
<v Speaker 2>On a golf course and for our listeners that, May

1556
01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:20.920
<v Speaker 2>not be familiar tim was the General manager of the

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01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:21.640
<v Speaker 2>jazz for A.

1558
01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:21.880
<v Speaker 5>Few.

1559
01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:25.720
<v Speaker 10>Years, the bah yeah yeah he was, there for ten

1560
01:13:25.800 --> 01:13:28.560
<v Speaker 10>years ten years ninety to two thousand and during The

1561
01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:31.359
<v Speaker 10>so called hey day, and and you know And and

1562
01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:34.600
<v Speaker 10>when the jazz finished their run and had won more

1563
01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:37.720
<v Speaker 10>games THAN anybody in the nba during, That ten year

1564
01:13:37.800 --> 01:13:41.319
<v Speaker 10>run tim called, the, meeting and said BOYS that's that's.

1565
01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:43.720
<v Speaker 9>All i, can do, and uh you know. It's up

1566
01:13:43.720 --> 01:13:46.159
<v Speaker 9>to you, i'm out of here and walked. Out the

1567
01:13:46.199 --> 01:13:49.520
<v Speaker 9>Back door and Then i'm Only team i'm teasing. Tim

1568
01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:51.880
<v Speaker 9>on the air but he did a, great job for

1569
01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:54.159
<v Speaker 9>us for the for the organization all those.

1570
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:54.800
<v Speaker 8>Years, he, Was.

1571
01:13:54.760 --> 01:13:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Involved yeah yeah So shout out sim Als And Of

1572
01:13:57.119 --> 01:13:58.000
<v Speaker 1>course Wes. Roff.

1573
01:13:58.439 --> 01:14:02.960
<v Speaker 9>Hall, Of famer wes okay wes is gonna is gonna

1574
01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:06.359
<v Speaker 9>push BACK and TELL you i was i Was honored By.

1575
01:14:07.159 --> 01:14:11.960
<v Speaker 9>THE hall of fame i was Not inducted into. The hall,

1576
01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:15.600
<v Speaker 9>of fame, he's gonna, you know it's like but but

1577
01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:18.039
<v Speaker 9>a great honor for him and and way overdue in,

1578
01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:20.600
<v Speaker 9>my in My opinion knowing what wes has done in

1579
01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:23.920
<v Speaker 9>the local sports scene forever as well as especially with

1580
01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:26.039
<v Speaker 9>the with the game of. Golf for so long but

1581
01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:29.359
<v Speaker 9>you know that that that kind of reminds me that

1582
01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:32.680
<v Speaker 9>that the semantics in the language spence is a little

1583
01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:36.319
<v Speaker 9>bit LIKE when you. AND i play golf i know

1584
01:14:36.920 --> 01:14:39.880
<v Speaker 9>that there's you taught me a great phrase to use

1585
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:43.000
<v Speaker 9>Along With, my buddy chris lino who told me this a,

1586
01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:45.560
<v Speaker 9>couple of years ago said when he when he's walking

1587
01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:48.920
<v Speaker 9>to the, cart off the, green and he said there's

1588
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:52.399
<v Speaker 9>a difference when THE guy tells you, i got a

1589
01:14:52.479 --> 01:14:56.560
<v Speaker 9>five or, He says to you, I'll TAKE a five

1590
01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:00.920
<v Speaker 9>and i know that's that's uh in the. SAME vein

1591
01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:03.119
<v Speaker 9>that spends i know you you walk off a lot

1592
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:04.720
<v Speaker 9>of greens and Just yell over and.

1593
01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:05.479
<v Speaker 8>I'll take a four.

1594
01:15:05.600 --> 01:15:07.640
<v Speaker 2>I'LL take a FORE i feel like i keep, my

1595
01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:10.560
<v Speaker 2>score with Integrity But at times i'll i'll take a

1596
01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:11.680
<v Speaker 2>generous strivege and maybe.

1597
01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Give myself a part but who?

1598
01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:16.479
<v Speaker 9>Were supposed to do nicholas was one of the one

1599
01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:20.000
<v Speaker 9>of the obviously maybe probably. The greatest GOLFER ever and

1600
01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:23.560
<v Speaker 9>he's i heard him say time and time again over

1601
01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:26.199
<v Speaker 9>the years and interviews when people ask him for advice

1602
01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:29.960
<v Speaker 9>or about, the game, of golf he says people forget that,

1603
01:15:29.960 --> 01:15:33.479
<v Speaker 9>that first and foremost it's supposed to be a fun

1604
01:15:33.720 --> 01:15:36.760
<v Speaker 9>game that you go out and you enjoy it with

1605
01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:40.479
<v Speaker 9>friends and family or, new friends or whoever and you.

1606
01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:43.000
<v Speaker 9>Have fun with it and people who get all wrapped

1607
01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:46.640
<v Speaker 9>up in what their score is or what the technicalities

1608
01:15:46.680 --> 01:15:49.279
<v Speaker 9>are when they're, playing a, fun round you Know on,

1609
01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:53.000
<v Speaker 9>on a saturday morning or losing sight of what it's supposed,

1610
01:15:53.039 --> 01:15:56.199
<v Speaker 9>to be. All, About you know yeah and it's one

1611
01:15:56.199 --> 01:15:59.119
<v Speaker 9>of the great people to be reminded Of, that lesson

1612
01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:01.119
<v Speaker 9>about right we had A. Great time on friday we

1613
01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:04.159
<v Speaker 9>did fun to hang. Out, with you guys no thank.

1614
01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:06.680
<v Speaker 1>You for the invite last thing on this and. Then.

1615
01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:09.920
<v Speaker 2>We'll move on uh one thing really changed my approach

1616
01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:13.439
<v Speaker 2>to to the game where one of THE really good,

1617
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:15.760
<v Speaker 2>players i play, with and he said if, you want

1618
01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:18.159
<v Speaker 2>to improve you. Go to the range if, you want

1619
01:16:18.199 --> 01:16:20.199
<v Speaker 2>to improve. You go hit balls if, you want to improve.

1620
01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:22.199
<v Speaker 2>You take a lesson if, you want to improve you

1621
01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:24.920
<v Speaker 2>grab somebody that can help. You understand your swing we're

1622
01:16:24.920 --> 01:16:27.399
<v Speaker 2>out here to. Have a good time we're not out there,

1623
01:16:27.439 --> 01:16:30.640
<v Speaker 2>like during the round because you can drive yourself crazy

1624
01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:33.560
<v Speaker 2>with every single minute adjustment you feel like you have to.

1625
01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Make while you're playing but then you lose sight of

1626
01:16:35.560 --> 01:16:38.640
<v Speaker 2>the fact that we're outside for four hours in the sunshine.

1627
01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:42.000
<v Speaker 9>Having, a good time, spence you know me and, you

1628
01:16:42.079 --> 01:16:44.079
<v Speaker 9>know my game and you know it's it's it's really

1629
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:47.640
<v Speaker 9>in the gut or most Of the time when i'm

1630
01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:50.840
<v Speaker 9>standing over the ball and, ALL of a sudden i

1631
01:16:50.960 --> 01:16:54.960
<v Speaker 9>Have eight different. THINGS i'm thinking about I already. KNOW

1632
01:16:55.800 --> 01:16:59.560
<v Speaker 9>that i'm defeated I already know that i'm only gonna

1633
01:16:59.640 --> 01:17:02.000
<v Speaker 9>maybe take care of two of those eight, things on.

1634
01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:05.239
<v Speaker 9>This swing you know and and, when when that happens

1635
01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:07.319
<v Speaker 9>you know you're you know you're in trouble when you're

1636
01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:08.119
<v Speaker 9>when you're trying to.

1637
01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Outthink yourself, for sure all right well let's do let's

1638
01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:11.920
<v Speaker 1>do the.

1639
01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Jazz stuff this segment THEN We'll save the nba playoffs stuff. For,

1640
01:17:16.039 --> 01:17:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Our second segment smith he's live with. Us For an

1641
01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:20.840
<v Speaker 2>hour uh june twenty fifth is. Right, around the corner

1642
01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:23.600
<v Speaker 2>yeah so WEEKS Away, FROM the nba draft i will

1643
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:24.600
<v Speaker 2>be anchoring our Coverage.

1644
01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:26.479
<v Speaker 1>With you and gordy. Can't wait for it. That's gonna

1645
01:17:26.479 --> 01:17:27.239
<v Speaker 1>be awesome we're gonna.

1646
01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Have a good time what as somebody that were was

1647
01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:34.439
<v Speaker 2>in these rooms? For basically four decades what what?

1648
01:17:34.439 --> 01:17:34.800
<v Speaker 1>What's the?

1649
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:38.439
<v Speaker 2>Process like right now is? Weeks before the draft we're

1650
01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:40.920
<v Speaker 2>here and so it's. Kind of go time what's what's happening? To?

1651
01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Prepare for This.

1652
01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:45.880
<v Speaker 9>Yeah so now SPENCE the. The the nba personnel, the

1653
01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:49.239
<v Speaker 9>last few weeks THEY'VE gotten THROUGH The Uh the, nba

1654
01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:51.319
<v Speaker 9>pre draft camp which is a Couple. Weeks ago, in

1655
01:17:51.399 --> 01:17:56.119
<v Speaker 9>chicago following that then there were a bunch of what,

1656
01:17:56.159 --> 01:18:00.479
<v Speaker 9>we call agent workouts most of them sent In two

1657
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:03.560
<v Speaker 9>areas in chicago while they're at. The pre draft, camp

1658
01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:08.479
<v Speaker 9>right after that some agents would organize some individual workouts for,

1659
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:12.880
<v Speaker 9>for their their players their, their draft eligible players and

1660
01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:17.520
<v Speaker 9>then almost all of that group get on separate flights

1661
01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:20.520
<v Speaker 9>AND fly to the la area and then, they spend

1662
01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:25.119
<v Speaker 9>last week about a four or five day Period Prior

1663
01:18:25.159 --> 01:18:30.680
<v Speaker 9>to the MEMORIAL day weekend getting uh going To Agent

1664
01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:37.159
<v Speaker 9>workouts In Thousand, oaks In Santa monica in huntington beach

1665
01:18:38.399 --> 01:18:43.000
<v Speaker 9>and in various PLACES on north of la and they're,

1666
01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:46.760
<v Speaker 9>all in different gyms and you always they're coordinating, with each,

1667
01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:49.319
<v Speaker 9>other about you know who's gonna have a workout at

1668
01:18:49.359 --> 01:18:52.039
<v Speaker 9>ten in the morning and, with their five guys and

1669
01:18:52.279 --> 01:18:54.600
<v Speaker 9>all the all the people from the teams, want to

1670
01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:56.720
<v Speaker 9>be there and so they don't want to miss the

1671
01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:59.479
<v Speaker 9>workout for a guy who's who's working, out in another

1672
01:18:59.560 --> 01:19:02.479
<v Speaker 9>gym and, so, the agent says well we'll do. Ours

1673
01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:05.039
<v Speaker 9>at one o'clock so all you guys at the Ten

1674
01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:08.319
<v Speaker 9>O'clock workout in santa monica can then jump in your

1675
01:19:08.319 --> 01:19:10.800
<v Speaker 9>car and get on the four h five And Drive

1676
01:19:10.880 --> 01:19:12.800
<v Speaker 9>up the thousand oaks and get to the gym in

1677
01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:16.199
<v Speaker 9>time for the. One o'clock workout there and then some

1678
01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:20.960
<v Speaker 9>of you got TO come back to ucla at four

1679
01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:24.520
<v Speaker 9>o'clock for the workout that one agency is going to have.

1680
01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:27.520
<v Speaker 9>With THEIR three, guys and i mean it's really. It's

1681
01:19:27.560 --> 01:19:30.399
<v Speaker 9>really a jumble and sometimes you have to divide your

1682
01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:33.279
<v Speaker 9>forces because you have a lot of guys from your

1683
01:19:33.359 --> 01:19:38.359
<v Speaker 9>organization that are, there watching the workouts maybe conducting, some

1684
01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:42.479
<v Speaker 9>interviews at hotels sometimes right. There at, the gym you

1685
01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:44.880
<v Speaker 9>know on the side of the gym while guys are walking.

1686
01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:45.319
<v Speaker 8>Out of the.

1687
01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:49.600
<v Speaker 9>Gym it really becomes a hodgepodge sometimes depending on who's

1688
01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:51.600
<v Speaker 9>available and who you want to talk to and who

1689
01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:53.840
<v Speaker 9>you want. To reach out to and then you're also

1690
01:19:53.920 --> 01:19:58.680
<v Speaker 9>working with the agents at that time about guys they

1691
01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:01.600
<v Speaker 9>represent who you may have an interest in, bringing to

1692
01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:06.760
<v Speaker 9>your market uh for a more full scale workout with

1693
01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:10.800
<v Speaker 9>your coaches in tow running the workouts and being able

1694
01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:14.840
<v Speaker 9>to do interviews and and and do a player profiles and.

1695
01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:17.960
<v Speaker 9>Those kinds of things and so they've, got all that

1696
01:20:18.079 --> 01:20:21.199
<v Speaker 9>stuff all that so called travel stuff. Is in the

1697
01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:25.600
<v Speaker 9>bank so now they are starting to invite players.

1698
01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:26.680
<v Speaker 8>Uh to their to.

1699
01:20:26.800 --> 01:20:30.439
<v Speaker 9>Their their Home market so the jazz are working on

1700
01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:34.600
<v Speaker 9>scheduling guys to. Come in for workouts they're, working with

1701
01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:38.359
<v Speaker 9>other teams so they're calling Their their Counterparts in denver

1702
01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:42.920
<v Speaker 9>And phoenix And And. Sacramento, and golden state hey you

1703
01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:48.000
<v Speaker 9>bringing In the Kid, From rutgers on thursday can you

1704
01:20:48.079 --> 01:20:50.840
<v Speaker 9>Send them here on friday so we can get a

1705
01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:52.600
<v Speaker 9>look at them and. That kind of thing so you're

1706
01:20:52.600 --> 01:20:56.239
<v Speaker 9>coordinating with the teams as well as. Coordinating with the

1707
01:20:56.279 --> 01:20:58.960
<v Speaker 9>agents so there's a. Lot of moving parts for. A

1708
01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:01.880
<v Speaker 9>lot of years our point Man On, that was walt

1709
01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:05.119
<v Speaker 9>perrin who is our vice president player personnel. For a

1710
01:21:05.119 --> 01:21:07.920
<v Speaker 9>Long time and and walt was always going crazy, this

1711
01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:10.560
<v Speaker 9>time of year mixing and matching and moving all the

1712
01:21:10.640 --> 01:21:14.279
<v Speaker 9>chess pieces around and and and it never works out

1713
01:21:14.279 --> 01:21:16.279
<v Speaker 9>the way you wanted to because a, guy always drops

1714
01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:18.920
<v Speaker 9>out or a, guy missed a flight or a guy

1715
01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:22.039
<v Speaker 9>twisted His, ankle yesterday in denver and now he can't work.

1716
01:21:22.039 --> 01:21:24.600
<v Speaker 9>Out for you today and and so she got all those,

1717
01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:27.960
<v Speaker 9>moving parts going on and then add on, on top

1718
01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:31.920
<v Speaker 9>of that you've now got also a contingency that's going To,

1719
01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:37.840
<v Speaker 9>Go over to treviso italy in the next Week to

1720
01:21:37.840 --> 01:21:41.640
<v Speaker 9>to watch european guys do the same thing That was

1721
01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:46.000
<v Speaker 9>done in CHICAGO here At the. Nba pre Draft camp

1722
01:21:46.039 --> 01:21:49.560
<v Speaker 9>so the european pre draft camp Will, be held in

1723
01:21:49.560 --> 01:21:53.439
<v Speaker 9>treviso which Is, Just, outside of venice italy and a

1724
01:21:53.439 --> 01:21:56.760
<v Speaker 9>lot of guys trying and draw the long straw so

1725
01:21:56.800 --> 01:21:59.479
<v Speaker 9>they can they can Get a trip over italy for a,

1726
01:21:59.520 --> 01:22:01.960
<v Speaker 9>week To watch them the italian players and, get some,

1727
01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:05.960
<v Speaker 9>good food you Know in the early june before they really, cranking,

1728
01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:07.279
<v Speaker 9>out the draft.

1729
01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:09.920
<v Speaker 8>Which as you mentioned is The. Last week of.

1730
01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:12.840
<v Speaker 2>June so when it, comes to individual workouts the way,

1731
01:22:12.960 --> 01:22:16.279
<v Speaker 2>teams handle these, workouts and you know it was always

1732
01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:18.319
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite things to. SIT back and watch

1733
01:22:18.359 --> 01:22:20.640
<v Speaker 2>I Can Remember before jeff van gundy was the Head

1734
01:22:20.680 --> 01:22:24.119
<v Speaker 2>coach of the Knicks and. Was pat riley's assistant he,

1735
01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:28.279
<v Speaker 2>was the you know he was the honorary chest passer

1736
01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:31.199
<v Speaker 2>for these young kids THEY'D come, IN and i remember

1737
01:22:31.239 --> 01:22:34.239
<v Speaker 2>i think it was Ninety two when the knicks had a.

1738
01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Late first round pick They Used.

1739
01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:37.920
<v Speaker 2>It on hubert davis But They worked Out doug christy

1740
01:22:37.960 --> 01:22:42.000
<v Speaker 2>and ROBERT or together and i was courtside. WATCHING the

1741
01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:43.680
<v Speaker 2>whole thing i just thought it, was the, coolest thing

1742
01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:47.159
<v Speaker 2>you know watching these. Things kind of transpire what are

1743
01:22:47.239 --> 01:22:49.640
<v Speaker 2>you looking for if you put yourself in The Seat.

1744
01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Of the utah, jazz first of all as a team with,

1745
01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:55.840
<v Speaker 2>the top five pick you have doors opened. All over

1746
01:22:55.880 --> 01:22:58.079
<v Speaker 2>the place agents want, to talk to you players want

1747
01:22:58.079 --> 01:22:59.640
<v Speaker 2>to work out for you because you have. A TOP

1748
01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:02.720
<v Speaker 2>five pick so i would imagine that opens up avenues

1749
01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:04.680
<v Speaker 2>And doors that the jazz wouldn't have if they were.

1750
01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Only, At twenty.

1751
01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:08.159
<v Speaker 2>One right so you have. A top five pick people will.

1752
01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Answer your phone call they want. To talk to you

1753
01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:13.840
<v Speaker 2>what are you trying to accomplish throughout the process of

1754
01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:16.359
<v Speaker 2>these individual? Workouts and player interviews what are you? Trying

1755
01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:17.359
<v Speaker 2>to find Out.

1756
01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:19.560
<v Speaker 9>Most of it's spence it really has to do with

1757
01:23:19.680 --> 01:23:23.359
<v Speaker 9>getting to know the individual player and also doing any

1758
01:23:23.479 --> 01:23:28.239
<v Speaker 9>follow up in terms, of physical testing him making sure

1759
01:23:28.439 --> 01:23:30.920
<v Speaker 9>he doesn't have a bad knee or you heard that

1760
01:23:31.159 --> 01:23:34.920
<v Speaker 9>he played during the season. With a sore, back you,

1761
01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:36.840
<v Speaker 9>want to you know want to check on those things

1762
01:23:36.840 --> 01:23:40.039
<v Speaker 9>with your medical staff while. They're in town here they

1763
01:23:40.079 --> 01:23:43.880
<v Speaker 9>all go Through, medical testing in chicago so every team

1764
01:23:43.920 --> 01:23:47.199
<v Speaker 9>gets the exact same Reports out of the chicago pre

1765
01:23:47.319 --> 01:23:50.000
<v Speaker 9>draft camp. For all thirty guys they put, it in.

1766
01:23:50.039 --> 01:23:54.760
<v Speaker 9>A big big binder you would have a meeting with all,

1767
01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:58.399
<v Speaker 9>of your decision makers with all your, people within your

1768
01:23:58.520 --> 01:24:01.319
<v Speaker 9>organization usually about a week he, could before the draft

1769
01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:04.520
<v Speaker 9>and you sit down for a whole evening with your

1770
01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:08.199
<v Speaker 9>doctors and you go through every. Player page by page

1771
01:24:08.199 --> 01:24:09.840
<v Speaker 9>you start with the a's and you go all, the

1772
01:24:09.840 --> 01:24:12.960
<v Speaker 9>way through disease and you go through how Is. This,

1773
01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:15.560
<v Speaker 9>guy in, chicago yeah he's, okay he's a. Green he's

1774
01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:18.359
<v Speaker 9>an orange he's a red flag depending on how. His

1775
01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:21.399
<v Speaker 9>physical came out but when he, comes in your market

1776
01:24:21.520 --> 01:24:23.680
<v Speaker 9>if there was something, there was a question then you

1777
01:24:23.840 --> 01:24:26.319
<v Speaker 9>have a chance to follow up on. That kind of

1778
01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:30.720
<v Speaker 9>thing the workout itself is probably the last thing on

1779
01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:34.000
<v Speaker 9>the priority scale of, things that you do because you've

1780
01:24:34.039 --> 01:24:37.720
<v Speaker 9>been watching. Him play all year You watch them in chicago.

1781
01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:41.319
<v Speaker 9>With the other guys the, workout you may have there

1782
01:24:41.359 --> 01:24:46.079
<v Speaker 9>are specific rules to the, workout in your, market so

1783
01:24:46.239 --> 01:24:49.560
<v Speaker 9>for example you cannot work out more than six. Guys

1784
01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:53.279
<v Speaker 9>at one time so the perfect workout is when you

1785
01:24:53.359 --> 01:24:58.800
<v Speaker 9>have six guys who were all playing similar positions and

1786
01:24:58.920 --> 01:25:01.720
<v Speaker 9>all who are are projected to be in a similar.

1787
01:25:01.880 --> 01:25:04.479
<v Speaker 9>Space of the draft because now you can you can

1788
01:25:04.520 --> 01:25:07.000
<v Speaker 9>kind of look at apples to apples and see how they.

1789
01:25:07.079 --> 01:25:10.520
<v Speaker 9>Play against each other but it's always you're, always couch,

1790
01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:15.640
<v Speaker 9>that with you know with, a degree of ambiguity, because

1791
01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:18.720
<v Speaker 9>you're not sure you know if if what you see

1792
01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:21.880
<v Speaker 9>good bad in the middle in a workout is really

1793
01:25:21.880 --> 01:25:24.000
<v Speaker 9>who the guy is and and and those are the

1794
01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:28.000
<v Speaker 9>things that, really temper you know your what you come away,

1795
01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:32.000
<v Speaker 9>with on, those uh you know We've Had We had

1796
01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:35.319
<v Speaker 9>carlos boozer who's, who was you know obviously had a

1797
01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:38.800
<v Speaker 9>terrific career and had Great. Years for the jazz came

1798
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:41.680
<v Speaker 9>in for his first workout with us and and was.

1799
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:42.359
<v Speaker 8>Not very good at.

1800
01:25:42.359 --> 01:25:44.239
<v Speaker 1>All, the second round yeah.

1801
01:25:44.239 --> 01:25:47.079
<v Speaker 9>But but but we we get him in the, interview, and, We,

1802
01:25:47.159 --> 01:25:50.439
<v Speaker 9>say hey uh carlos how was how'd you feel out.

1803
01:25:50.439 --> 01:25:52.640
<v Speaker 9>There in the court it looked like a little sluggish you,

1804
01:25:52.680 --> 01:25:55.359
<v Speaker 9>were you, didn't work you know it didn't quite, what we,

1805
01:25:55.359 --> 01:25:57.840
<v Speaker 9>Were expecting you know, and, and, HE said, WELL yeah.

1806
01:25:57.880 --> 01:26:01.439
<v Speaker 9>I know i apologize I am probably because i don't

1807
01:26:01.439 --> 01:26:03.399
<v Speaker 9>have a. Lot of energy today and we said is

1808
01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:05.600
<v Speaker 9>there a reason for that and you know or? Something

1809
01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:08.239
<v Speaker 9>we should, know, AND he goes. WELL i don't know

1810
01:26:08.319 --> 01:26:11.359
<v Speaker 9>i haven't eaten. In twenty four hours, and, we, said

1811
01:26:11.800 --> 01:26:14.479
<v Speaker 9>wa wha wha wha what you haven't eaten? In twenty

1812
01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:16.359
<v Speaker 9>four hour? What do, you, MEAN he goes well i

1813
01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:18.760
<v Speaker 9>got Up yesterday MORNING and durham and i had to

1814
01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:21.199
<v Speaker 9>GET the flight AND i don't have i don't, have

1815
01:26:21.239 --> 01:26:24.039
<v Speaker 9>A credit card so i. Don't have any money and

1816
01:26:24.079 --> 01:26:27.479
<v Speaker 9>When we traveled with duke on the, road for our

1817
01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:31.640
<v Speaker 9>games we were we were supplied, food by the team

1818
01:26:31.680 --> 01:26:35.199
<v Speaker 9>but we're always told that we couldn't we couldn't order

1819
01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:38.239
<v Speaker 9>any room service because they weren't allowed. To pay for

1820
01:26:38.319 --> 01:26:41.119
<v Speaker 9>THAT and so so i got here IN the hotel

1821
01:26:41.159 --> 01:26:42.960
<v Speaker 9>and i didn't. HAVE a credit card i, don't HAVE

1822
01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:45.760
<v Speaker 9>any money. So i haven't eat we go what?

1823
01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:46.039
<v Speaker 8>Are you?

1824
01:26:46.119 --> 01:26:48.800
<v Speaker 9>Talking about you know and and so we actually had

1825
01:26:48.880 --> 01:26:51.199
<v Speaker 9>him come back for another workout, like two, weeks Later

1826
01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:55.119
<v Speaker 9>you know and, Kevin, O'Connor, told him look Carlos You

1827
01:26:55.279 --> 01:26:56.199
<v Speaker 9>go into golden state.

1828
01:26:56.239 --> 01:26:56.760
<v Speaker 8>Tomorrow for.

1829
01:26:56.760 --> 01:27:00.800
<v Speaker 9>Another workout you're going you, make sure you properly. You do,

1830
01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:04.399
<v Speaker 9>all that and look if you, ever have a problem here's.

1831
01:27:04.479 --> 01:27:06.760
<v Speaker 9>My credit card number you just keep it in your

1832
01:27:06.840 --> 01:27:09.319
<v Speaker 9>wallet and. Charge it, to me he goes don't. Don't

1833
01:27:09.359 --> 01:27:11.960
<v Speaker 9>be doing that you're you're you're. Playing with Your career

1834
01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:14.560
<v Speaker 9>and and carlos, was just, being honest you. Know with,

1835
01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:17.159
<v Speaker 9>THE process you know i, don't Have any money so,

1836
01:27:17.399 --> 01:27:20.239
<v Speaker 9>i'm not you, know that's you know, that's just. A

1837
01:27:20.279 --> 01:27:23.680
<v Speaker 9>situation you know and so and then you can, flip

1838
01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:26.439
<v Speaker 9>the other end and You Have, guys like donovan mitchell

1839
01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:30.680
<v Speaker 9>who had a nice a Couple. Of years, at louisville

1840
01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:35.079
<v Speaker 9>nothing Spectacular Nothing on the all american, level anything like

1841
01:27:35.119 --> 01:27:39.680
<v Speaker 9>that and he came in and doesn't, work out for us, and,

1842
01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:43.119
<v Speaker 9>and we're, going okay, all right hold on was this

1843
01:27:43.279 --> 01:27:47.439
<v Speaker 9>like just happened to be his day or is that

1844
01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:51.039
<v Speaker 9>something We didn't see at louisville, for whatever the reason

1845
01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:54.880
<v Speaker 9>or are? We what we're seeing is, that really you

1846
01:27:54.920 --> 01:27:58.279
<v Speaker 9>know to be believed or so you're you're, measuring all

1847
01:27:58.279 --> 01:28:01.560
<v Speaker 9>those things and it's. Always all, The scale you know

1848
01:28:02.680 --> 01:28:05.680
<v Speaker 9>Rudy came in and rudy had did his workout three,

1849
01:28:05.760 --> 01:28:08.840
<v Speaker 9>days Before the draft and rudy had Been sick in the,

1850
01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:12.560
<v Speaker 9>chicago pre draft camp so he did. Not perform very

1851
01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:15.600
<v Speaker 9>well so, a lot, of teams you know were skeptical

1852
01:28:15.600 --> 01:28:17.680
<v Speaker 9>about who he was because He was coming from france

1853
01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:20.840
<v Speaker 9>and he played on the lower division team there and maybe,

1854
01:28:20.880 --> 01:28:24.399
<v Speaker 9>he's just seven, one and you know it just, happens

1855
01:28:24.439 --> 01:28:27.600
<v Speaker 9>to be tall but isn't that good. Or whatever it

1856
01:28:27.720 --> 01:28:31.439
<v Speaker 9>is and he came in and, and for, us anyway

1857
01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:34.079
<v Speaker 9>you know really showed that he could move and could

1858
01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:36.119
<v Speaker 9>run and move his hips and we thought there was

1859
01:28:36.159 --> 01:28:38.720
<v Speaker 9>something there, and and you, know but even then he

1860
01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:41.840
<v Speaker 9>still slid to twenty, seven in, the draft you know

1861
01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:46.399
<v Speaker 9>and so these things go, all over the scale you

1862
01:28:46.479 --> 01:28:49.760
<v Speaker 9>Have to have a one of the things you really

1863
01:28:49.760 --> 01:28:52.760
<v Speaker 9>need in your room as a team is to have

1864
01:28:52.880 --> 01:28:56.119
<v Speaker 9>some guys who have, been through, that process you know

1865
01:28:56.479 --> 01:29:00.199
<v Speaker 9>many times and understand what it is and don't get

1866
01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:05.039
<v Speaker 9>up in the things that don't look really look bad

1867
01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:07.520
<v Speaker 9>or the things that look really good and don't. Get

1868
01:29:07.600 --> 01:29:10.359
<v Speaker 9>swayed either, way but, you have you know some kind

1869
01:29:10.399 --> 01:29:11.479
<v Speaker 9>of experience doing.

1870
01:29:11.479 --> 01:29:13.439
<v Speaker 8>That kind of thing obviously the.

1871
01:29:13.479 --> 01:29:16.680
<v Speaker 9>Jazz, do With You know with danny Ainge And guys

1872
01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:19.000
<v Speaker 9>like bart taylor who have been through, that for you

1873
01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:22.239
<v Speaker 9>know ten fifteen years now and have a good handle on.

1874
01:29:22.279 --> 01:29:24.520
<v Speaker 9>Those kind of things so that's that's the stuff you're

1875
01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:27.600
<v Speaker 9>looking for when, you get, them in you know for

1876
01:29:27.640 --> 01:29:31.039
<v Speaker 9>a for an on site workout and, trying to, figure

1877
01:29:31.079 --> 01:29:34.439
<v Speaker 9>out you know mostly who is this guy and is

1878
01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:37.000
<v Speaker 9>someone that we want to seriously consider.

1879
01:29:37.560 --> 01:29:39.560
<v Speaker 8>Adding to our group.

1880
01:29:39.479 --> 01:29:42.399
<v Speaker 2>Let me Follow up, about the donovan workout because it's

1881
01:29:42.439 --> 01:29:46.279
<v Speaker 2>one of these, chapters in jazz history in jazz lore

1882
01:29:46.399 --> 01:29:51.199
<v Speaker 2>that has a lot, of, Tales SURROUNDING it right AND

1883
01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:53.479
<v Speaker 2>i can remember i was with the team's radio, station

1884
01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:56.760
<v Speaker 2>at the time and you started hearing things after the

1885
01:29:56.800 --> 01:30:00.640
<v Speaker 2>workout Where. The Reports, were dennis dennis lindsey who was

1886
01:30:01.119 --> 01:30:04.840
<v Speaker 2>running the, team at the time basically told everybody you

1887
01:30:04.880 --> 01:30:07.239
<v Speaker 2>do not whisper a word about, what we just saw,

1888
01:30:07.399 --> 01:30:08.840
<v Speaker 2>and if you do you. WILL lose your job i

1889
01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know if, it was that dramatic but and Then

1890
01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:15.079
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting because summer league this year will Be Up

1891
01:30:15.119 --> 01:30:18.079
<v Speaker 2>at the huntsman Center As. They're renovating delta center And

1892
01:30:18.119 --> 01:30:20.439
<v Speaker 2>The last time summer League was at The delta centers

1893
01:30:20.439 --> 01:30:23.600
<v Speaker 2>when donovan went Head To head against jason tatum and,

1894
01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:26.920
<v Speaker 2>gave it to him and, that's, when everybody's like, wait Wait.

1895
01:30:26.960 --> 01:30:29.960
<v Speaker 2>A second, Because tatum i mean i'm not. TAKING a

1896
01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Victory lap i thought tatum was the best, player in

1897
01:30:31.680 --> 01:30:34.520
<v Speaker 2>that draft All Due respect to markelle folks who went

1898
01:30:34.600 --> 01:30:37.319
<v Speaker 2>number one and couldn't stay healthy and had. Some, weird

1899
01:30:37.359 --> 01:30:40.880
<v Speaker 2>stuff happen unfortunately THAT'S part of. The nba JOURNEY sometimes

1900
01:30:41.880 --> 01:30:44.600
<v Speaker 2>And when I watched donovan just i remember he slapped

1901
01:30:44.640 --> 01:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>the Floor and, he picked tatum's pocket went down and

1902
01:30:46.760 --> 01:30:49.119
<v Speaker 2>dunked it with forst and STARTED doing things that i didn't.

1903
01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:52.439
<v Speaker 2>Know he could do what was it about That workout

1904
01:30:52.800 --> 01:30:56.199
<v Speaker 2>that motivated dennis to be so adamant like we just

1905
01:30:56.239 --> 01:30:58.600
<v Speaker 2>found something special here that maybe we didn't know that.

1906
01:30:58.640 --> 01:30:58.720
<v Speaker 6>We.

1907
01:30:58.720 --> 01:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Were, Gonna find.

1908
01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:03.920
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, YEAH first of all i would respond just To

1909
01:31:03.960 --> 01:31:07.680
<v Speaker 9>the notion that dennis. May have, said something you know

1910
01:31:07.760 --> 01:31:10.359
<v Speaker 9>nobody SPEAK about this or i don't if. IF that

1911
01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:13.920
<v Speaker 9>ever happened i wasn't in the, room during, that time

1912
01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:16.600
<v Speaker 9>because look we, were at that time we were picking

1913
01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:22.199
<v Speaker 9>twenty four that year in the draft, and during, the workout,

1914
01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:28.680
<v Speaker 9>film study, you know internal discussion conversations with other guys

1915
01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:31.439
<v Speaker 9>we knew around the league who you might have seen

1916
01:31:31.520 --> 01:31:33.560
<v Speaker 9>him more and knew a little. Bit more about him

1917
01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:35.760
<v Speaker 9>and as we did all of our background work and all,

1918
01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:39.239
<v Speaker 9>that kind of stuff he became a player. We were

1919
01:31:39.239 --> 01:31:43.840
<v Speaker 9>interested in but, we also felt, like you know enough

1920
01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:47.479
<v Speaker 9>other teams are going to see what we see and

1921
01:31:47.600 --> 01:31:52.000
<v Speaker 9>he's not going. To get, to us but okay we like. Him,

1922
01:31:52.119 --> 01:31:54.800
<v Speaker 9>to some extent okay we put him up on the

1923
01:31:54.800 --> 01:31:58.720
<v Speaker 9>wall and. Our board And whatever and then dennis was

1924
01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:02.279
<v Speaker 9>able to do his magic, on on, draft night you

1925
01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:04.439
<v Speaker 9>know and be able to. Move up to thirteen and

1926
01:32:04.880 --> 01:32:07.840
<v Speaker 9>because we, want everything we had we all of our

1927
01:32:07.880 --> 01:32:10.800
<v Speaker 9>research showed that he probably wasn't going to get past

1928
01:32:11.279 --> 01:32:15.720
<v Speaker 9>fifteen sixteen. Seventeen something like, that so you know sometimes

1929
01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:18.920
<v Speaker 9>those things happen and they. Fall, in your, lap now

1930
01:32:19.239 --> 01:32:22.199
<v Speaker 9>you know will we the only Team That you like

1931
01:32:22.319 --> 01:32:25.199
<v Speaker 9>donovan mitchell will be the, only ones, who saw you

1932
01:32:25.239 --> 01:32:27.119
<v Speaker 9>know what he might, Be able to know and that's

1933
01:32:27.199 --> 01:32:30.880
<v Speaker 9>that narrative is just. It's just not true you know

1934
01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:34.239
<v Speaker 9>a lot, of teams liked him a lot of teams

1935
01:32:34.279 --> 01:32:37.800
<v Speaker 9>had some concerns about why he didn't play that way When.

1936
01:32:37.800 --> 01:32:39.760
<v Speaker 9>He was, at louisville, you can you know look at

1937
01:32:39.800 --> 01:32:43.119
<v Speaker 9>a lot, of different things whatever and, and Some of

1938
01:32:43.159 --> 01:32:45.840
<v Speaker 9>it really spence just goes to the fact that you know,

1939
01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:49.479
<v Speaker 9>he HAS you KNOW what i would i determine now,

1940
01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:52.239
<v Speaker 9>looking back on it he just HAS more of an

1941
01:32:52.399 --> 01:32:57.239
<v Speaker 9>nba type game in him than you're allowed. To show

1942
01:32:57.279 --> 01:32:59.880
<v Speaker 9>in college and we see guys who can do that.

1943
01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:03.359
<v Speaker 8>From time. To time you know as far, as the,

1944
01:33:04.119 --> 01:33:06.479
<v Speaker 8>process itself you.

1945
01:33:06.439 --> 01:33:11.079
<v Speaker 9>Know we're we're we're always looking for different guys who

1946
01:33:11.119 --> 01:33:13.600
<v Speaker 9>can try and. Add to, your group you know it's

1947
01:33:13.640 --> 01:33:17.239
<v Speaker 9>everything you have, up on the board everything, that you're looking,

1948
01:33:17.279 --> 01:33:22.039
<v Speaker 9>at everything is monitored is recorded in terms of what.

1949
01:33:22.159 --> 01:33:24.760
<v Speaker 9>Teams you've talked to if you're trying, TO move you

1950
01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:27.159
<v Speaker 9>Know i know the jazz are picking five and twenty,

1951
01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:29.520
<v Speaker 9>one at the moment those are. The picks they have

1952
01:33:29.640 --> 01:33:32.399
<v Speaker 9>we always would, be careful, about saying you know are

1953
01:33:33.239 --> 01:33:36.920
<v Speaker 9>the picks we? Have at the moment are these because

1954
01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:39.079
<v Speaker 9>you never know if you're, going to move up, you're

1955
01:33:39.119 --> 01:33:42.520
<v Speaker 9>gonna move back you're gonna move, out of the draft

1956
01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:45.399
<v Speaker 9>depending on all all kinds of things that. Can be,

1957
01:33:45.439 --> 01:33:48.880
<v Speaker 9>going on of course This, year for, the jazz you

1958
01:33:48.920 --> 01:33:52.359
<v Speaker 9>know they're in a, situation where where, everything in my.

1959
01:33:52.439 --> 01:33:56.600
<v Speaker 9>Opinion is in play there is nothing, that's not you

1960
01:33:56.600 --> 01:34:01.479
<v Speaker 9>know either discussable or, something where you say yeah that

1961
01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:03.720
<v Speaker 9>we're just not gonna do that kind of a thing

1962
01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:06.159
<v Speaker 9>because they don't have a team, that's in, a position

1963
01:34:06.680 --> 01:34:08.239
<v Speaker 9>you know to to.

1964
01:34:07.760 --> 01:34:09.479
<v Speaker 8>To act like that so there.

1965
01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:15.079
<v Speaker 9>They'll HAVE everything open everything's i would think is in

1966
01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:20.640
<v Speaker 9>play as far as moving and trading and and trying to,

1967
01:34:20.840 --> 01:34:24.479
<v Speaker 9>compile picks and. Whatever blah blah blah and that's gonna

1968
01:34:24.479 --> 01:34:27.479
<v Speaker 9>be the interesting part for this next month is all

1969
01:34:27.479 --> 01:34:30.159
<v Speaker 9>the all the stuff that might be going On leading.

1970
01:34:30.239 --> 01:34:31.239
<v Speaker 8>Up to, draft day all.

1971
01:34:31.279 --> 01:34:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Right before, we catch a break let's move over to

1972
01:34:33.800 --> 01:34:36.720
<v Speaker 2>this draft and give me your. Thoughts on on, this

1973
01:34:36.840 --> 01:34:39.840
<v Speaker 2>so you know when you Look at who the jazz,

1974
01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:43.600
<v Speaker 2>have on their roster and in a way this Always

1975
01:34:43.640 --> 01:34:47.680
<v Speaker 2>concerned Me with donovan and mike, as a starting backcourt

1976
01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:50.920
<v Speaker 2>even though they're both awesome and obviously they've both gone on.

1977
01:34:50.960 --> 01:34:54.800
<v Speaker 2>To play, well elsewhere You Know we'll use oklahoma city

1978
01:34:54.840 --> 01:34:58.199
<v Speaker 2>as an example because they're just kind of the. Shining stars,

1979
01:34:58.199 --> 01:35:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Of Now you know lou dort, Six Five two twenty,

1980
01:35:01.119 --> 01:35:03.720
<v Speaker 2>alex carusoe sixty. FIVE one ninety five i feel like

1981
01:35:03.720 --> 01:35:07.600
<v Speaker 2>He's bigger than. That jay sixty, seven, even a guy

1982
01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:10.720
<v Speaker 2>uh Even A guy like cason wallace who's, six three

1983
01:35:10.800 --> 01:35:13.319
<v Speaker 2>sixty four plays a. Lot bigger than that jalen, is six,

1984
01:35:13.439 --> 01:35:18.479
<v Speaker 2>'s nine You Know uh so kendrick. Williams is six seven,

1985
01:35:18.600 --> 01:35:22.840
<v Speaker 2>So On the perimeter oklahoma city has. Tremendous size and,

1986
01:35:22.960 --> 01:35:26.159
<v Speaker 2>length and you know you saw last Night They just put.

1987
01:35:26.159 --> 01:35:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Anthony edwards in jail he. Had nowhere to go and

1988
01:35:29.319 --> 01:35:31.920
<v Speaker 2>when You look at the, Jazz, Roster, RIGHT now uh

1989
01:35:31.960 --> 01:35:34.560
<v Speaker 2>clarkson i don't know if he's part, of the future plans.

1990
01:35:34.640 --> 01:35:37.720
<v Speaker 2>But he's Six three they list. ISAIAH at six three

1991
01:35:37.760 --> 01:35:39.840
<v Speaker 2>i don't know. That he's sixty three kant. Sixty, Three

1992
01:35:39.880 --> 01:35:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Sixty four uh, colin sexton sixty three like the, majority

1993
01:35:43.520 --> 01:35:48.199
<v Speaker 2>of their guards uh aren't, necessarily big and long Like

1994
01:35:48.239 --> 01:35:50.800
<v Speaker 2>the wings From minnesota outside of mike And The. Wings

1995
01:35:50.800 --> 01:35:55.199
<v Speaker 2>FOR oklahoma city, and i, feel like you know, it's,

1996
01:35:55.199 --> 01:35:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Easy to say well danny likes Length because He. Drafted

1997
01:35:57.600 --> 01:35:59.720
<v Speaker 2>tatum and brown everybody likes length and. That's what you

1998
01:35:59.760 --> 01:36:02.640
<v Speaker 2>need so when you look at some of the Prospects

1999
01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:06.600
<v Speaker 2>available where the, jazz could be drafting and we don't.

2000
01:36:06.640 --> 01:36:09.399
<v Speaker 2>Know What's gonna happen ace bailey is six seven Six

2001
01:36:09.560 --> 01:36:12.640
<v Speaker 2>eight b. J, edgecomb Sixt' five uh the, Fears Kid,

2002
01:36:12.680 --> 01:36:15.600
<v Speaker 2>is small, trey johnson you know. Six four sixty five

2003
01:36:15.640 --> 01:36:19.239
<v Speaker 2>there are some big wings available with some length. And

2004
01:36:19.319 --> 01:36:21.479
<v Speaker 2>some size there dylan's not going. To get to them,

2005
01:36:21.560 --> 01:36:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Dylan would be, great dylan sixty five but he's probably

2006
01:36:24.199 --> 01:36:24.880
<v Speaker 2>probably gonna be off.

2007
01:36:24.920 --> 01:36:27.880
<v Speaker 1>THE board of two i think they need more length than.

2008
01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:31.039
<v Speaker 2>ATHLETICISM on the Perimeter i Feel like larry and walker

2009
01:36:31.079 --> 01:36:33.920
<v Speaker 2>are the Only two players where, I'd, feel confident like okay,

2010
01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:36.960
<v Speaker 2>we've got those two and then everybody else has a

2011
01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:40.359
<v Speaker 2>tremendous question, marks in MY opinion what sort i know

2012
01:36:40.399 --> 01:36:42.600
<v Speaker 2>you said. Everything's on the, table but At five what

2013
01:36:42.680 --> 01:36:45.800
<v Speaker 2>should jazz fans hope as far as Best case that

2014
01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:47.800
<v Speaker 2>the jazz, Could, WALK away with well i.

2015
01:36:47.800 --> 01:36:49.920
<v Speaker 9>Would think that a number of the guys that are.

2016
01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:52.000
<v Speaker 9>GOING to be there i think if they, ended up

2017
01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:56.680
<v Speaker 9>picking five there may be a couple of surprises that happened.

2018
01:36:56.680 --> 01:36:59.399
<v Speaker 9>AT three and four i think one and, two are

2019
01:36:59.399 --> 01:37:02.439
<v Speaker 9>probably then whether It's those Two Teams dallas and san

2020
01:37:02.439 --> 01:37:06.159
<v Speaker 9>antonio take take the Flag kid, and the harper kid or,

2021
01:37:06.399 --> 01:37:08.840
<v Speaker 9>or if, they they you know for some reason make a,

2022
01:37:08.920 --> 01:37:11.600
<v Speaker 9>trade of, some sort you know and a. Lot of the,

2023
01:37:11.640 --> 01:37:13.760
<v Speaker 9>scuttle but you know as you get closer to THE

2024
01:37:13.880 --> 01:37:17.399
<v Speaker 9>draft is gonna i think it's gonna start getting Some

2025
01:37:17.479 --> 01:37:22.199
<v Speaker 9>steam behind What giannie's situations in milwaukee and what's, gonna

2026
01:37:22.199 --> 01:37:22.760
<v Speaker 9>happen with that.

2027
01:37:22.720 --> 01:37:24.439
<v Speaker 8>Because those, would be to me would.

2028
01:37:24.439 --> 01:37:27.720
<v Speaker 9>Be very interesting Discussions if You're In dallas or san,

2029
01:37:27.720 --> 01:37:31.479
<v Speaker 9>antonio and you Know and somebody from milwaukee, calls, you

2030
01:37:31.520 --> 01:37:34.399
<v Speaker 9>and says hey, you got, a minute you know because,

2031
01:37:35.159 --> 01:37:40.279
<v Speaker 9>for you yeah, exactly and so uh anything could happen

2032
01:37:40.319 --> 01:37:44.159
<v Speaker 9>in that regard and. That in those slots, but then

2033
01:37:44.439 --> 01:37:46.600
<v Speaker 9>you know when, you, get, to three four five there's

2034
01:37:46.600 --> 01:37:50.199
<v Speaker 9>some discussion about who these guys could be and and

2035
01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:53.600
<v Speaker 9>what teams are gonna need, and and you know look

2036
01:37:53.640 --> 01:37:56.119
<v Speaker 9>at A, team like the jazz if they, don't do

2037
01:37:56.159 --> 01:37:59.079
<v Speaker 9>anything else and if they just stay at five and

2038
01:37:59.119 --> 01:38:01.840
<v Speaker 9>they end up picking, a gun at five they're, they're

2039
01:38:01.920 --> 01:38:05.960
<v Speaker 9>really their, responsibility in my opinion is to pick the

2040
01:38:05.960 --> 01:38:11.319
<v Speaker 9>guy whoever they think is the best talent and has the,

2041
01:38:11.359 --> 01:38:12.319
<v Speaker 9>best chance of.

2042
01:38:12.640 --> 01:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Succeeding, regardless doing well yeah because.

2043
01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:20.880
<v Speaker 9>Because they need players, they they they're badly they're at

2044
01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:23.560
<v Speaker 9>the bottom looking up and so you know you can't,

2045
01:38:23.600 --> 01:38:25.720
<v Speaker 9>be going for well we. Need a point guard so

2046
01:38:25.760 --> 01:38:27.880
<v Speaker 9>we'll just take. Whoever the point, guard and, you know

2047
01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:30.199
<v Speaker 9>you know if if you determine that some other guy

2048
01:38:30.760 --> 01:38:33.640
<v Speaker 9>uh at another position is going to. Be a better

2049
01:38:33.680 --> 01:38:36.760
<v Speaker 9>player now that that's always in a in a, an

2050
01:38:36.840 --> 01:38:41.119
<v Speaker 9>assessment you make that's always an evaluation of. Guys in

2051
01:38:41.159 --> 01:38:44.960
<v Speaker 9>your room, that's always you know ends, up being you

2052
01:38:44.960 --> 01:38:47.439
<v Speaker 9>know when all when, all the dust settles the guy

2053
01:38:47.479 --> 01:38:50.640
<v Speaker 9>who's your decision maker in This, case, for THE jazz

2054
01:38:51.039 --> 01:38:54.680
<v Speaker 9>uh It's I believe it's danny ainge. Has the, final

2055
01:38:54.720 --> 01:38:58.279
<v Speaker 9>word you know he'll he'll make an assessment based on

2056
01:38:58.359 --> 01:39:02.560
<v Speaker 9>everybody's input and how everybody has has seen uh seen

2057
01:39:02.640 --> 01:39:05.960
<v Speaker 9>these guys and determine what would be the make the

2058
01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:10.079
<v Speaker 9>Most sense for the jazz in terms of adding skill and.

2059
01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:15.560
<v Speaker 9>Talent to their base? What position is that who Knows

2060
01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:18.000
<v Speaker 9>is that the fears kid who you know may have

2061
01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:20.800
<v Speaker 9>a good careers as. As a point Guard is that

2062
01:39:20.880 --> 01:39:24.319
<v Speaker 9>The johnson kid from texas who's who's a flat out score,

2063
01:39:24.439 --> 01:39:27.319
<v Speaker 9>and has good, size uh you know has.

2064
01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:31.439
<v Speaker 8>Has a pro game, and a pro body uh? To

2065
01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:31.920
<v Speaker 8>go with?

2066
01:39:31.960 --> 01:39:35.039
<v Speaker 9>It at that, part at that point is that somebody

2067
01:39:35.119 --> 01:39:38.960
<v Speaker 9>Like The kid from duke nipple who's who measured uh

2068
01:39:39.159 --> 01:39:42.239
<v Speaker 9>shorter than than everybody thought He, was in in chicago

2069
01:39:43.479 --> 01:39:46.760
<v Speaker 9>but is a true playmaker out on the, floor with

2070
01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:49.239
<v Speaker 9>the ball is. Really a smart guy so do you

2071
01:39:49.279 --> 01:39:51.359
<v Speaker 9>need do you want a guy like that to? Add

2072
01:39:51.720 --> 01:39:54.720
<v Speaker 9>to your mix because as we're seeing with these teams

2073
01:39:54.720 --> 01:39:57.439
<v Speaker 9>that are still, alive in the playoffs they all have

2074
01:39:57.680 --> 01:40:03.239
<v Speaker 9>guys that fit in round, pegs into round holes meaning

2075
01:40:03.279 --> 01:40:07.880
<v Speaker 9>they put. Team, A Team Together right shay GILDERS. Alexander,

2076
01:40:08.159 --> 01:40:12.439
<v Speaker 9>is an mvp okay the home grown kid is not

2077
01:40:12.600 --> 01:40:15.119
<v Speaker 9>far behind in terms of just how, he affects the

2078
01:40:15.159 --> 01:40:17.359
<v Speaker 9>game what he. Brings on the floor but now you're

2079
01:40:17.359 --> 01:40:21.479
<v Speaker 9>talking about two key, contributors to their team where guys

2080
01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:25.720
<v Speaker 9>who are not even Drafted in Lou. Dort and and

2081
01:40:25.800 --> 01:40:29.560
<v Speaker 9>caruso and so you have to figure out as an

2082
01:40:29.640 --> 01:40:34.359
<v Speaker 9>organization who who, the big guys are who those guys,

2083
01:40:34.399 --> 01:40:36.920
<v Speaker 9>are going, to be. You know going forward but then

2084
01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:40.159
<v Speaker 9>you also have to plug in those holes somewhere along

2085
01:40:40.159 --> 01:40:43.680
<v Speaker 9>the line with guys that you determined can add to

2086
01:40:43.720 --> 01:40:46.760
<v Speaker 9>your group and fit in and be part of that

2087
01:40:46.880 --> 01:40:51.199
<v Speaker 9>puzzle you're. Trying to put together that's what makes doing

2088
01:40:51.279 --> 01:40:54.119
<v Speaker 9>this such a, difficult task for Teams. And that's why

2089
01:40:54.199 --> 01:40:58.399
<v Speaker 9>spence you see some organizations they're just always spinning their

2090
01:40:58.439 --> 01:41:01.159
<v Speaker 9>wheels and can never get attraction because they don't have

2091
01:41:01.239 --> 01:41:04.560
<v Speaker 9>the patients to be able to put a few pieces

2092
01:41:04.600 --> 01:41:07.439
<v Speaker 9>together and then wait till the next cycle and, put

2093
01:41:07.479 --> 01:41:10.319
<v Speaker 9>another piece together and then wait for the next cycle

2094
01:41:10.680 --> 01:41:13.520
<v Speaker 9>and try and see what they're doing long. Term and

2095
01:41:13.560 --> 01:41:16.560
<v Speaker 9>big picture and. That's That's the situation the jazz, are

2096
01:41:16.560 --> 01:41:17.000
<v Speaker 9>in right.

2097
01:41:16.920 --> 01:41:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Now about two hours away From tip off In indiana

2098
01:41:20.279 --> 01:41:21.439
<v Speaker 2>where The knicks and the pacers are.

2099
01:41:21.439 --> 01:41:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Going to do battle we.

2100
01:41:22.199 --> 01:41:25.479
<v Speaker 2>Have Some breaking news aaron nesmith is available to play

2101
01:41:26.119 --> 01:41:27.079
<v Speaker 2>after spraining his.

2102
01:41:27.119 --> 01:41:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Ankle in game three we'll.

2103
01:41:28.640 --> 01:41:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Catch a quick break we'll talk about that game TONIGHT And,

2104
01:41:31.560 --> 01:41:34.159
<v Speaker 2>we'll talk okc minnesota maybe do a little more Jazz

2105
01:41:34.159 --> 01:41:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Of time allows richard smith live in studio for one

2106
01:41:36.560 --> 01:41:39.439
<v Speaker 2>more segment coming up on the other SIDE right here,

2107
01:41:39.560 --> 01:41:41.439
<v Speaker 2>on espn seven hundred.

2108
01:41:41.159 --> 01:41:41.920
<v Speaker 1>About one hour.

2109
01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:44.920
<v Speaker 2>And fifty minutes away tip off tonight At, Massive game

2110
01:41:45.119 --> 01:41:47.239
<v Speaker 2>in indiana knicks are going to try to lock it

2111
01:41:47.319 --> 01:41:49.560
<v Speaker 2>up at. Two Games a piece the pacers will try

2112
01:41:49.560 --> 01:41:52.239
<v Speaker 2>to take a three to one lead. Over The next

2113
01:41:52.279 --> 01:41:56.760
<v Speaker 2>tonight aaron. Neismith available to play after spraining his, ankle

2114
01:41:56.840 --> 01:41:59.520
<v Speaker 2>in game three he left, for the locker room did

2115
01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:01.640
<v Speaker 2>come back and. Finish Off the game richard smith, Is,

2116
01:42:01.680 --> 01:42:04.039
<v Speaker 2>LIVE in studio smithy i wanted to get one more

2117
01:42:04.119 --> 01:42:07.560
<v Speaker 2>quick JAZZ thing in because i. Haven't Asked you this walker,

2118
01:42:07.640 --> 01:42:13.520
<v Speaker 2>kessler is extension eligible so the. Date is coming up as,

2119
01:42:13.560 --> 01:42:18.079
<v Speaker 2>far as you know The Decision to extend walker kessler

2120
01:42:19.079 --> 01:42:21.760
<v Speaker 2>fourteen point six. MIL free Agent Hole i got bobby

2121
01:42:21.760 --> 01:42:23.640
<v Speaker 2>mark's notes in Front of me. Because, bobby's the man

2122
01:42:23.840 --> 01:42:25.560
<v Speaker 2>yep it feels, like, A no.

2123
01:42:25.560 --> 01:42:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Brainer, RIGHT i mean walker.

2124
01:42:26.880 --> 01:42:29.439
<v Speaker 2>I feel like after, a great rookie year had, a

2125
01:42:29.479 --> 01:42:32.199
<v Speaker 2>dip year two but really played. WELL well year three

2126
01:42:32.640 --> 01:42:34.640
<v Speaker 2>i would imagine this is a formality that They Do.

2127
01:42:34.720 --> 01:42:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Lock, Up, WALKER kessler.

2128
01:42:36.600 --> 01:42:39.600
<v Speaker 9>Well spence i would agree with YOU in terms of

2129
01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:42.800
<v Speaker 9>i think he's a guy who who you can actually

2130
01:42:42.840 --> 01:42:45.560
<v Speaker 9>have as one of your pieces of trying to. Build

2131
01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:49.399
<v Speaker 9>something going forward so that makes sense to, Me on

2132
01:42:49.439 --> 01:42:52.960
<v Speaker 9>the surface but you have to, look behind the scenes

2133
01:42:53.039 --> 01:42:56.159
<v Speaker 9>and you have to look at your whole organization and

2134
01:42:56.239 --> 01:42:58.439
<v Speaker 9>the whole team and as you're trying. To build it

2135
01:42:58.479 --> 01:43:04.479
<v Speaker 9>out and they Don't Have to extend, walker kessler this

2136
01:43:04.600 --> 01:43:08.359
<v Speaker 9>year they can they can go another year on the

2137
01:43:08.439 --> 01:43:11.159
<v Speaker 9>last year what, would be next, year his fourth year

2138
01:43:11.239 --> 01:43:13.720
<v Speaker 9>the last year, of his rookie contract and then he

2139
01:43:13.760 --> 01:43:17.640
<v Speaker 9>would become. A, restricted free agent uh they can give,

2140
01:43:17.720 --> 01:43:20.800
<v Speaker 9>him a qualifying offer and then uh they.

2141
01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:21.399
<v Speaker 8>Can Wait, and.

2142
01:43:21.359 --> 01:43:26.439
<v Speaker 9>See because spence if if you're if you're not holding

2143
01:43:26.520 --> 01:43:31.319
<v Speaker 9>onto a guy who's helping you to get to a mountaintop, That,

2144
01:43:31.399 --> 01:43:36.000
<v Speaker 9>you're right near okay if you're just still trying, to

2145
01:43:36.039 --> 01:43:39.399
<v Speaker 9>build your foundation there are a lot of moving parts

2146
01:43:39.439 --> 01:43:43.319
<v Speaker 9>and pieces that that that could change between. Now and

2147
01:43:43.399 --> 01:43:48.800
<v Speaker 9>next summer he could have. A bad fourth year he

2148
01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:53.720
<v Speaker 9>could heaven forbid blow a knee out. And have something

2149
01:43:53.760 --> 01:43:59.039
<v Speaker 9>happen so there's not An urgency on the. Jazz's part

2150
01:43:59.399 --> 01:44:03.960
<v Speaker 9>to extend sometimes you want to do those things as

2151
01:44:04.000 --> 01:44:07.119
<v Speaker 9>a good faith measure and, to, show the player yeah,

2152
01:44:07.159 --> 01:44:11.239
<v Speaker 9>hey we want you and here we go and and

2153
01:44:11.319 --> 01:44:13.600
<v Speaker 9>so those are the decisions that, you have to make

2154
01:44:13.960 --> 01:44:15.640
<v Speaker 9>and those are the business decisions that you.

2155
01:44:16.000 --> 01:44:16.920
<v Speaker 8>Talk over with your.

2156
01:44:16.960 --> 01:44:19.760
<v Speaker 9>Group and your owner and then you're also you're talking

2157
01:44:19.800 --> 01:44:23.359
<v Speaker 9>with his his agent and and and trying to understand

2158
01:44:23.399 --> 01:44:29.600
<v Speaker 9>what all the ramifications are around uh extending him right away,

2159
01:44:30.239 --> 01:44:34.119
<v Speaker 9>or waiting on, it, or, you know, explaining hey you

2160
01:44:34.159 --> 01:44:36.159
<v Speaker 9>know we want to wait because next year we. Might,

2161
01:44:36.199 --> 01:44:38.880
<v Speaker 9>have more money uh he might play himself.

2162
01:44:38.960 --> 01:44:40.399
<v Speaker 8>Into a. Better deal.

2163
01:44:42.000 --> 01:44:44.960
<v Speaker 9>You know there's a lot of that jockeying around and

2164
01:44:44.960 --> 01:44:47.880
<v Speaker 9>and uh. Negotiating behind the scenes so there's a lot

2165
01:44:47.920 --> 01:44:50.640
<v Speaker 9>Of ways that the, jazz could play it but, just

2166
01:44:50.680 --> 01:44:53.680
<v Speaker 9>for our listeners for them to understand it in general

2167
01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:58.479
<v Speaker 9>business and, and Team building terms the jazz do not have.

2168
01:44:58.560 --> 01:45:01.960
<v Speaker 9>To do anything summer if, they choose not to they

2169
01:45:02.000 --> 01:45:05.359
<v Speaker 9>can ride it, out for another year where then next

2170
01:45:05.399 --> 01:45:11.479
<v Speaker 9>summer they would still. Have the Final say as with

2171
01:45:11.640 --> 01:45:14.720
<v Speaker 9>kessler being, a restricted free agent in terms of whether

2172
01:45:14.760 --> 01:45:16.920
<v Speaker 9>they want. To, bring it back, now that's what happened

2173
01:45:18.720 --> 01:45:22.319
<v Speaker 9>Going Back to, the gordon hayward scenario You. Know and,

2174
01:45:22.359 --> 01:45:25.640
<v Speaker 9>the jazz you know we're playing it out and then

2175
01:45:25.680 --> 01:45:28.279
<v Speaker 9>they offered, him a you know a deal that he

2176
01:45:28.319 --> 01:45:30.920
<v Speaker 9>wanted to, go get another offer which he did and

2177
01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:33.359
<v Speaker 9>he won that one and whatever and all that. That

2178
01:45:33.439 --> 01:45:36.920
<v Speaker 9>kind of, stuff but you KNOW, so in the nba

2179
01:45:37.920 --> 01:45:41.000
<v Speaker 9>as long as you like a guy and as long

2180
01:45:41.039 --> 01:45:44.520
<v Speaker 9>as he's your guy going forward and you think he's

2181
01:45:44.560 --> 01:45:47.800
<v Speaker 9>a good, part of, your future the team no, matter

2182
01:45:47.840 --> 01:45:51.720
<v Speaker 9>what it does always has the control for minimum of

2183
01:45:51.760 --> 01:45:54.960
<v Speaker 9>the first seven years of the player's career because you

2184
01:45:55.039 --> 01:45:58.479
<v Speaker 9>have that restricted free agency tag on them where you

2185
01:45:58.520 --> 01:46:01.880
<v Speaker 9>can always match an offer that someone. Else would give

2186
01:46:01.960 --> 01:46:04.359
<v Speaker 9>him so you're also playing that, game, because you say,

2187
01:46:04.359 --> 01:46:06.840
<v Speaker 9>well if we wait then next year he could. Earn

2188
01:46:06.880 --> 01:46:10.159
<v Speaker 9>some more money but maybe next year, we get him cheaper,

2189
01:46:10.479 --> 01:46:13.000
<v Speaker 9>or maybe, next year you know some team that has

2190
01:46:13.039 --> 01:46:15.119
<v Speaker 9>a whole bunch of money really loves them and they just,

2191
01:46:15.199 --> 01:46:18.640
<v Speaker 9>throw a, you know, a big you know wopping lowry

2192
01:46:18.680 --> 01:46:21.479
<v Speaker 9>market and type deal at, him, and, you go whoa whoa,

2193
01:46:21.520 --> 01:46:23.920
<v Speaker 9>we can't do. That you know whatever so there's a

2194
01:46:23.960 --> 01:46:27.880
<v Speaker 9>lot of a lot of dancing around behind closed doors

2195
01:46:27.960 --> 01:46:30.640
<v Speaker 9>that the team has to figure out is he going

2196
01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:33.119
<v Speaker 9>to be one of their guys that they want.

2197
01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:35.439
<v Speaker 8>To make that kind. Of financial commitment too.

2198
01:46:35.439 --> 01:46:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Let, me ask you this since You brought, up the

2199
01:46:36.840 --> 01:46:40.119
<v Speaker 2>hayward stuff there is a narrative that's been out there

2200
01:46:40.159 --> 01:46:41.920
<v Speaker 2>FOR a while and i don't know that ever.

2201
01:46:41.960 --> 01:46:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Fully BROUGHT into it. BUT i don't know.

2202
01:46:43.720 --> 01:46:47.039
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea my whole Assertion is the way

2203
01:46:47.119 --> 01:46:51.159
<v Speaker 2>gordon handled The Exit and. THE player's tribune article i

2204
01:46:51.279 --> 01:46:53.239
<v Speaker 2>feel like he wanted to sit at the cool kids

2205
01:46:53.279 --> 01:46:55.000
<v Speaker 2>lunch table, in A bigger market and i feel like

2206
01:46:55.000 --> 01:46:55.720
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to go play.

2207
01:46:55.720 --> 01:46:58.399
<v Speaker 1>For his college coach but some.

2208
01:46:58.279 --> 01:47:01.359
<v Speaker 2>People believe as a result of the decision not to

2209
01:47:01.399 --> 01:47:04.560
<v Speaker 2>simply maxim as soon as he was up for it

2210
01:47:04.760 --> 01:47:07.640
<v Speaker 2>and give him what he wanted after the rookie deal

2211
01:47:07.920 --> 01:47:10.840
<v Speaker 2>was able to be extended and tell him to go

2212
01:47:10.880 --> 01:47:12.800
<v Speaker 2>bet on himself was one of.

2213
01:47:12.840 --> 01:47:14.880
<v Speaker 1>The reasons he left do you put? Any, STOCK into that.

2214
01:47:15.279 --> 01:47:15.680
<v Speaker 5>No I.

2215
01:47:17.199 --> 01:47:22.479
<v Speaker 9>Don't know that i understand. WHAT that narrative was i

2216
01:47:22.520 --> 01:47:25.199
<v Speaker 9>think it Was more really knowing GORDON the way. That

2217
01:47:25.279 --> 01:47:29.319
<v Speaker 9>i know him it's just, MY own personal opinion i

2218
01:47:29.399 --> 01:47:34.239
<v Speaker 9>think when he had the opportunity to go play for

2219
01:47:34.319 --> 01:47:38.000
<v Speaker 9>his college coach and had the opportunity to go play

2220
01:47:38.039 --> 01:47:41.960
<v Speaker 9>for a Storied, franchise like the celtics and was going

2221
01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:46.560
<v Speaker 9>into a good situation where they had a chance to win,

2222
01:47:46.720 --> 01:47:49.960
<v Speaker 9>AND all that that i think that was too much of.

2223
01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:51.199
<v Speaker 8>A pull FOR.

2224
01:47:51.279 --> 01:47:55.560
<v Speaker 9>Him i think i do also think that, again my

2225
01:47:55.640 --> 01:48:00.359
<v Speaker 9>own opinion my own gut tells me that he was

2226
01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:06.600
<v Speaker 9>more comfortable playing here in this market because He's More

2227
01:48:07.079 --> 01:48:11.119
<v Speaker 9>Of a salt lake city type guy off the floor

2228
01:48:11.680 --> 01:48:16.920
<v Speaker 9>Than he is a boston type guy. OFF the floor there,

2229
01:48:17.079 --> 01:48:20.439
<v Speaker 9>i mean his personality, he's a quiet guy. He's A

2230
01:48:20.479 --> 01:48:25.399
<v Speaker 9>Family guy salt lake city really fit him to a

2231
01:48:25.520 --> 01:48:28.560
<v Speaker 9>t in terms of what uh he wants to be

2232
01:48:28.840 --> 01:48:31.479
<v Speaker 9>just in. His life IN general and so i was

2233
01:48:31.520 --> 01:48:34.520
<v Speaker 9>a little bit surprised When he went TO BOSTON, only because,

2234
01:48:34.560 --> 01:48:37.479
<v Speaker 9>i i you know coming coming from that that read

2235
01:48:37.760 --> 01:48:40.199
<v Speaker 9>growing up there in that, REGION of the country i

2236
01:48:40.279 --> 01:48:43.239
<v Speaker 9>knew there it wasn't something that that would, really, fit

2237
01:48:43.359 --> 01:48:48.560
<v Speaker 9>his personality uh outside of the basketball stuff and so

2238
01:48:48.960 --> 01:48:51.640
<v Speaker 9>the real life stuff. As WE call it so i

2239
01:48:51.680 --> 01:48:55.039
<v Speaker 9>knew that would be a major adjustment for for for,

2240
01:48:55.159 --> 01:48:57.680
<v Speaker 9>he and his. Family his young, family BUT you know

2241
01:48:57.760 --> 01:49:00.840
<v Speaker 9>but i, think that the poll, again just my opinion

2242
01:49:01.399 --> 01:49:03.680
<v Speaker 9>the Pull To play for brad Stevens and go to

2243
01:49:03.720 --> 01:49:07.640
<v Speaker 9>boston and do that was too much of a. Storybook thing,

2244
01:49:07.720 --> 01:49:11.319
<v Speaker 9>for him and look he. He ended up, leaving At

2245
01:49:11.319 --> 01:49:17.119
<v Speaker 9>that time the jazz had had the financial ability. To pay,

2246
01:49:17.199 --> 01:49:19.720
<v Speaker 9>more money you know he left in the neighborhood of

2247
01:49:19.760 --> 01:49:22.800
<v Speaker 9>forty million dollars on the Table. To go To boston

2248
01:49:23.680 --> 01:49:26.680
<v Speaker 9>that the jazz would have guaranteed him more because they

2249
01:49:26.720 --> 01:49:30.159
<v Speaker 9>could give him that fifth year that. That other teams

2250
01:49:30.159 --> 01:49:32.920
<v Speaker 9>couldn't that's, how, the rules were right and, and he,

2251
01:49:33.079 --> 01:49:35.760
<v Speaker 9>chose to you know leave that on. The table and,

2252
01:49:36.119 --> 01:49:39.119
<v Speaker 9>go and YOU know but again i think it was

2253
01:49:39.159 --> 01:49:42.479
<v Speaker 9>more of an emotional thing for him and on on

2254
01:49:42.520 --> 01:49:44.840
<v Speaker 9>the personal side than it. Was A, business thing all.

2255
01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Right a couple, Of minutes left here so let's get

2256
01:49:46.640 --> 01:49:48.800
<v Speaker 2>to the playoffs that are. Going on right now before,

2257
01:49:48.800 --> 01:49:53.520
<v Speaker 2>we get TO Tonight. Let's, talk okc minnesota okay see

2258
01:49:53.720 --> 01:49:57.600
<v Speaker 2>up three to One. And last night, smiddie first, of

2259
01:49:57.600 --> 01:50:01.319
<v Speaker 2>all awesome game, really fun of one. High level shot

2260
01:50:01.439 --> 01:50:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Making my assertion is minnesota beats maybe every team in

2261
01:50:04.920 --> 01:50:07.720
<v Speaker 2>the league last night besides. The, one they played Yeah

2262
01:50:07.760 --> 01:50:10.199
<v Speaker 2>and you know ants taking a. Lot Of heat today

2263
01:50:10.319 --> 01:50:13.880
<v Speaker 2>julius randall for, the second. Straight game just disappeared watched

2264
01:50:13.920 --> 01:50:16.840
<v Speaker 2>the game in the fourth quarter From The bench after

2265
01:50:16.920 --> 01:50:20.119
<v Speaker 2>chris finch decided to go. In a different direction all

2266
01:50:20.159 --> 01:50:22.840
<v Speaker 2>that's finding good And. We Can, talk minnesota this minnesota

2267
01:50:22.880 --> 01:50:25.159
<v Speaker 2>that they hung forty one points in the fourth quarter

2268
01:50:25.199 --> 01:50:27.279
<v Speaker 2>on one of the best. Defenses in pro basketball to

2269
01:50:27.319 --> 01:50:30.760
<v Speaker 2>me last night. Was Who okasee is mark dagnol was,

2270
01:50:30.800 --> 01:50:32.600
<v Speaker 2>asked after the game what'd you learn? About your, team,

2271
01:50:32.640 --> 01:50:36.239
<v Speaker 2>tonight he said? NOTHING who we are i thought last

2272
01:50:36.319 --> 01:50:38.720
<v Speaker 2>NIGHT was More. About okac than? Minnesota, what's YOUR take.

2273
01:50:38.720 --> 01:50:40.880
<v Speaker 9>Yeah Well, I think they yeah i. THINK you're exactly

2274
01:50:40.960 --> 01:50:42.800
<v Speaker 9>right i think It was a great it was, a

2275
01:50:42.840 --> 01:50:46.319
<v Speaker 9>great horse race and it came down to the, wire and,

2276
01:50:46.720 --> 01:50:49.159
<v Speaker 9>one team you, know got you know beat the other team,

2277
01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:53.720
<v Speaker 9>out by a nose. To use that Analogy, and you,

2278
01:50:53.720 --> 01:50:57.039
<v Speaker 9>know minnesota you know they have a, ball bounced their

2279
01:50:57.079 --> 01:50:59.359
<v Speaker 9>way or they have a shot, fall in for them

2280
01:50:59.520 --> 01:51:03.239
<v Speaker 9>or they have a foul call that should have been. Made,

2281
01:51:03.239 --> 01:51:05.720
<v Speaker 9>that wasn't, made whatever you know all those things that

2282
01:51:05.760 --> 01:51:08.199
<v Speaker 9>can happen in the tight game with under, two minutes

2283
01:51:08.239 --> 01:51:10.680
<v Speaker 9>to go a couple of, things go their way and,

2284
01:51:10.720 --> 01:51:14.359
<v Speaker 9>it's Two to two and randall has A bad game

2285
01:51:14.920 --> 01:51:18.920
<v Speaker 9>and ant has, just a pedestrian, game and, everybody goes

2286
01:51:18.920 --> 01:51:22.439
<v Speaker 9>look see you see these, guys are for real because

2287
01:51:22.479 --> 01:51:25.840
<v Speaker 9>look they're two main guys, were just so so and

2288
01:51:25.880 --> 01:51:28.880
<v Speaker 9>they still won the game against the team that. HAD

2289
01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:30.760
<v Speaker 9>the best record i mean that, would, be, the narrowest

2290
01:51:30.840 --> 01:51:32.039
<v Speaker 9>right so so.

2291
01:51:32.800 --> 01:51:34.920
<v Speaker 8>You know it was it. Was a close game it

2292
01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:35.720
<v Speaker 8>was a. Fun game.

2293
01:51:35.760 --> 01:51:39.640
<v Speaker 9>TO watch you know i do think it's Gonna be

2294
01:51:39.680 --> 01:51:42.520
<v Speaker 9>hard for minnesota to to ratchet up now because now

2295
01:51:42.800 --> 01:51:44.720
<v Speaker 9>they're gonna in order to get out of the series

2296
01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:47.760
<v Speaker 9>and and move, On to the finals minnesota's gonna, have

2297
01:51:47.800 --> 01:51:49.960
<v Speaker 9>to be okay see three times.

2298
01:51:49.680 --> 01:51:51.840
<v Speaker 1>In a row and twice and, twice in.

2299
01:51:51.760 --> 01:51:53.359
<v Speaker 8>That building and that that's gonna.

2300
01:51:53.399 --> 01:51:57.239
<v Speaker 9>Be a tough warder but as we've seen, early in

2301
01:51:57.239 --> 01:52:01.760
<v Speaker 9>the playoffs that's why you play them because maybe somebody gets,

2302
01:52:01.760 --> 01:52:05.840
<v Speaker 9>in early foul trouble maybe, somebody has an injury something

2303
01:52:05.960 --> 01:52:09.960
<v Speaker 9>happens to affect the sway of what the momentum. And

2304
01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:13.399
<v Speaker 9>what's going, on you never know somebody comes out of

2305
01:52:13.399 --> 01:52:16.760
<v Speaker 9>the Would work like if minnesota, Pulled, that game out

2306
01:52:17.079 --> 01:52:21.239
<v Speaker 9>spence you'd be talking about how good they, can play

2307
01:52:21.279 --> 01:52:25.359
<v Speaker 9>against okay see how, well rounded they are and that

2308
01:52:25.479 --> 01:52:28.479
<v Speaker 9>you Had A Guy, like nikhil, alexander walker you, know

2309
01:52:28.640 --> 01:52:32.199
<v Speaker 9>HAVE a, game a va Game have a tray, Man

2310
01:52:32.239 --> 01:52:36.560
<v Speaker 9>game right right and so you'd be talking about. That

2311
01:52:36.640 --> 01:52:40.399
<v Speaker 9>kind of thing and so the narrative always changes depending

2312
01:52:40.439 --> 01:52:43.840
<v Speaker 9>on when. You get close games just what, happened and

2313
01:52:44.119 --> 01:52:46.079
<v Speaker 9>you know a bounce of a ball here, and there

2314
01:52:46.119 --> 01:52:49.039
<v Speaker 9>or whatever and the whole tone and what everybody's talking

2315
01:52:49.039 --> 01:52:52.640
<v Speaker 9>about changes from one. Thing to the next and and

2316
01:52:52.720 --> 01:52:55.319
<v Speaker 9>when you lose and, it's a tough game then you're

2317
01:52:55.359 --> 01:52:58.159
<v Speaker 9>looking at your main guys and trying to point, the

2318
01:52:58.239 --> 01:53:02.439
<v Speaker 9>fingers at them which is which is always the lazy way.

2319
01:53:02.439 --> 01:53:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Out in my opinion so in about an hour and,

2320
01:53:04.840 --> 01:53:07.720
<v Speaker 2>a half in change we have Tip Off of. The

2321
01:53:07.720 --> 01:53:12.600
<v Speaker 2>pacers knicks game It, is two on indiana AND since you,

2322
01:53:12.640 --> 01:53:16.439
<v Speaker 2>and I last spoke the knicks pulled a miraculous comeback

2323
01:53:16.479 --> 01:53:19.600
<v Speaker 2>off as they've done this year in the postseason. A

2324
01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:22.239
<v Speaker 2>few different times and when they went down twenty, IN

2325
01:53:22.279 --> 01:53:24.560
<v Speaker 2>the second quarter i almost went. And hit, Golf balls

2326
01:53:24.600 --> 01:53:27.239
<v Speaker 2>i'm Like i'm not doing. I'M not watching this i

2327
01:53:27.279 --> 01:53:29.319
<v Speaker 2>don't think enough was talked about as far as the

2328
01:53:29.319 --> 01:53:31.079
<v Speaker 2>way they closed the second quarter to.

2329
01:53:31.159 --> 01:53:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Get it within thirteen.

2330
01:53:33.479 --> 01:53:35.399
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't sound awesome but when you're down twenty and

2331
01:53:35.439 --> 01:53:37.880
<v Speaker 2>all the momentums going the other way and you're able

2332
01:53:37.920 --> 01:53:39.159
<v Speaker 2>to get a, couple of threes here there are a,

2333
01:53:39.199 --> 01:53:42.119
<v Speaker 2>couple stops here there and just end the hap with

2334
01:53:42.159 --> 01:53:43.840
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of confidence so you. KNOW you're not

2335
01:53:43.960 --> 01:53:47.199
<v Speaker 2>dead i felt like. That that Wasn't nothing the knee smith.

2336
01:53:47.239 --> 01:53:50.479
<v Speaker 2>Injury changed the game he's. Available to play tonight we'll see.

2337
01:53:50.520 --> 01:53:52.239
<v Speaker 2>If he can go he did come back in. And

2338
01:53:52.279 --> 01:53:54.760
<v Speaker 2>close The Game but when, nie smith went down it

2339
01:53:54.880 --> 01:53:56.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of changed the way that you Know.

2340
01:53:56.399 --> 01:53:57.720
<v Speaker 1>They were guarding jalen jalen.

2341
01:53:57.760 --> 01:54:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Gets in foul trouble when you were in studio last

2342
01:54:00.960 --> 01:54:03.279
<v Speaker 2>week and when we're on The, GOLF course on friday,

2343
01:54:03.279 --> 01:54:05.760
<v Speaker 2>i Said to you can tom Find Ten? Minutes for

2344
01:54:05.840 --> 01:54:08.520
<v Speaker 2>landry shammitt can he find ten to fifteen minutes for

2345
01:54:08.680 --> 01:54:10.600
<v Speaker 2>precious to you who did not. Get Off The bench

2346
01:54:11.239 --> 01:54:14.079
<v Speaker 2>former delon wright got some ron. Played really good defense

2347
01:54:14.359 --> 01:54:17.399
<v Speaker 2>It's weird to see delon play with, so little confidence

2348
01:54:17.479 --> 01:54:21.159
<v Speaker 2>offensively like he wasn't looking to attack, at all on

2349
01:54:21.239 --> 01:54:24.079
<v Speaker 2>offense but Did guard well and shaman gave him some.

2350
01:54:24.119 --> 01:54:28.159
<v Speaker 2>Good Run as well mitchell robinson, In The starting lineup josh.

2351
01:54:28.239 --> 01:54:30.000
<v Speaker 2>HART to The bench i give josh a lot of

2352
01:54:30.039 --> 01:54:32.159
<v Speaker 2>credit for the way he played coming in off the bench.

2353
01:54:32.760 --> 01:54:35.520
<v Speaker 2>With ten big rebounds he's as good OF a rebounding

2354
01:54:35.560 --> 01:54:38.079
<v Speaker 2>wing i think as there. Is in the league no

2355
01:54:38.199 --> 01:54:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Part Of me believes new york is. Gonna win this

2356
01:54:39.960 --> 01:54:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Series that's. Just where i'm at we'll. See what happens

2357
01:54:42.319 --> 01:54:44.600
<v Speaker 2>tonight pacers are a two. Point five point favorite so

2358
01:54:44.680 --> 01:54:47.520
<v Speaker 2>before we end, our hit this week Your thoughts on

2359
01:54:47.520 --> 01:54:49.239
<v Speaker 2>the knicks come back and what do?

2360
01:54:49.279 --> 01:54:50.520
<v Speaker 1>You, think, HAPPENS tonight.

2361
01:54:50.399 --> 01:54:53.479
<v Speaker 9>Yeah well i think, the first of all for all

2362
01:54:53.520 --> 01:54:57.520
<v Speaker 9>of the, talk all season long, everybody, has the, teams.

2363
01:54:57.560 --> 01:55:03.039
<v Speaker 9>Themselves the media Everybody, You're, Talking in december january february

2364
01:55:03.079 --> 01:55:06.039
<v Speaker 9>about who is in the position to have home court

2365
01:55:06.079 --> 01:55:10.000
<v Speaker 9>advantage in the first, round of the playoffs and everybody's

2366
01:55:10.079 --> 01:55:17.880
<v Speaker 9>always that's that's. Always The talking point the knicks so

2367
01:55:18.119 --> 01:55:22.359
<v Speaker 9>far are three and Five At Home and masison square,

2368
01:55:22.399 --> 01:55:24.800
<v Speaker 9>garden in the playoffs and they're six and.

2369
01:55:24.840 --> 01:55:31.880
<v Speaker 8>One on the road so? What does that mean who.

2370
01:55:31.880 --> 01:55:34.960
<v Speaker 9>Knows what it means other teams get Up To Play,

2371
01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:39.720
<v Speaker 9>at Madison square garden the knicks don't play as fluidly

2372
01:55:39.840 --> 01:55:42.600
<v Speaker 9>maybe or as easy because they got all those the

2373
01:55:42.800 --> 01:55:45.600
<v Speaker 9>expectations and everything on them that they're supposed to win

2374
01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:48.359
<v Speaker 9>When they're at The Garden and the new york fans

2375
01:55:48.399 --> 01:55:51.119
<v Speaker 9>are going to get them across the finish line or whatever.

2376
01:55:51.560 --> 01:55:54.960
<v Speaker 9>Whatever the mantra is and then they go on the,

2377
01:55:55.039 --> 01:55:57.680
<v Speaker 9>road and, they play you. Know, whatever they do now

2378
01:55:57.680 --> 01:56:00.000
<v Speaker 9>they've had several games that they've won in the sixth

2379
01:56:00.199 --> 01:56:03.880
<v Speaker 9>and one road playoff run of theirs where it's been

2380
01:56:04.039 --> 01:56:06.880
<v Speaker 9>a one minute game and it's been, whoever makes this

2381
01:56:07.039 --> 01:56:10.600
<v Speaker 9>shot or, whoever gets this stop or whoever makes a

2382
01:56:10.680 --> 01:56:13.439
<v Speaker 9>defensive play or whatever. It's going To be and the

2383
01:56:13.520 --> 01:56:16.600
<v Speaker 9>knicks had been able to do it several times in

2384
01:56:16.640 --> 01:56:17.760
<v Speaker 9>these playoffs.

2385
01:56:17.399 --> 01:56:18.159
<v Speaker 8>To to to.

2386
01:56:18.479 --> 01:56:22.319
<v Speaker 9>Uh to their credit and, Then the other night towns

2387
01:56:22.359 --> 01:56:25.600
<v Speaker 9>just went went on a, heater and you know he

2388
01:56:25.640 --> 01:56:27.880
<v Speaker 9>had one of. THOSE three point shots i thought he

2389
01:56:27.960 --> 01:56:30.600
<v Speaker 9>was just throwing up to. Hopefully get a foul they,

2390
01:56:30.640 --> 01:56:35.680
<v Speaker 9>didn't call the foul but. He banked it, in, but

2391
01:56:35.840 --> 01:56:39.920
<v Speaker 9>you know okay so. Called, Banks, it in okay okay

2392
01:56:40.279 --> 01:56:42.960
<v Speaker 9>that that's what's going, on, At this moment okay and

2393
01:56:43.039 --> 01:56:46.039
<v Speaker 9>he FELT it And and i think indiana felt.

2394
01:56:46.079 --> 01:56:47.479
<v Speaker 8>It a, little bit but.

2395
01:56:47.560 --> 01:56:50.920
<v Speaker 9>Again the same thing the, ball bounces one way the ball,

2396
01:56:50.960 --> 01:56:53.720
<v Speaker 9>bounces the other way, a shot goes in one of

2397
01:56:53.760 --> 01:56:57.880
<v Speaker 9>his shots doesn't, fall, or Rims out whatever, and indiana

2398
01:56:57.960 --> 01:56:59.600
<v Speaker 9>comes out and all of a sudden they're up, three

2399
01:56:59.600 --> 01:57:03.159
<v Speaker 9>to oh right and everybody's Talking about burying, the knicks

2400
01:57:03.159 --> 01:57:06.479
<v Speaker 9>and everything and, now, the talk Is hey can the

2401
01:57:06.520 --> 01:57:09.600
<v Speaker 9>knicks do it again and and even this series And Get?

2402
01:57:09.640 --> 01:57:12.800
<v Speaker 9>Back to, NEW york, you, know, I say uh gee

2403
01:57:12.840 --> 01:57:14.760
<v Speaker 9>i'm looking at, the Playoffs so far and i'm looking

2404
01:57:14.800 --> 01:57:17.880
<v Speaker 9>at their record on. THE road and home I don't

2405
01:57:17.920 --> 01:57:19.319
<v Speaker 9>know if i Don't know if the knicks want. To

2406
01:57:19.359 --> 01:57:21.560
<v Speaker 9>go back home maybe they they just want to keep,

2407
01:57:21.560 --> 01:57:23.439
<v Speaker 9>SAYING on, the road i mean. The way they're playing,

2408
01:57:24.600 --> 01:57:27.640
<v Speaker 9>but it's. A fun entertaining, series They both are, and

2409
01:57:28.039 --> 01:57:29.520
<v Speaker 9>i'm expecting nothing nothing.

2410
01:57:29.600 --> 01:57:32.039
<v Speaker 8>LESS than that tonight. I think it's uh i think.

2411
01:57:32.079 --> 01:57:34.399
<v Speaker 9>IT'S fun to watch i think both teams, really get after,

2412
01:57:34.439 --> 01:57:37.680
<v Speaker 9>It and both teams spence, to your earlier point have

2413
01:57:37.840 --> 01:57:40.920
<v Speaker 9>done things with their roster where it's, not just you

2414
01:57:40.960 --> 01:57:44.560
<v Speaker 9>know top draft picks that are that. Are pulling the

2415
01:57:44.560 --> 01:57:47.319
<v Speaker 9>wagon it's other guys that they've brought in and pieced

2416
01:57:47.359 --> 01:57:51.319
<v Speaker 9>together to have a full team effect that that that.

2417
01:57:51.479 --> 01:57:52.279
<v Speaker 8>Can help you, win.

2418
01:57:52.439 --> 01:57:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Should be fun smitty great to see you. Enjoy the game.

2419
01:57:55.640 --> 01:57:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Tonight we'll, chat soon. Thanks man Appreciate It.

2420
01:57:57.359 --> 01:57:59.960
<v Speaker 2>The great, richard smith, all right coming up Join me

2421
01:58:00.640 --> 01:58:04.079
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01:58:04.119 --> 01:58:06.880
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2423
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2424
01:58:09.560 --> 01:58:12.760
<v Speaker 2>scenic saint george all the proceedings from this tournament go

2425
01:58:12.800 --> 01:58:16.680
<v Speaker 2>To Benefit The van ney valor foundation that helps foster Kids.

2426
01:58:16.680 --> 01:58:20.119
<v Speaker 2>And the adoption foundations kyle was, adopted as an infant

2427
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<v Speaker 2>so this cause.

2428
01:58:20.760 --> 01:58:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Is very meaningful to.

2429
01:58:21.760 --> 01:58:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Him and His, Family starts on sunday, june the twenty

2430
01:58:24.600 --> 01:58:27.880
<v Speaker 2>second with a welcome cocktail party at SEVEN o'clock AND.

2431
01:58:27.920 --> 01:58:30.000
<v Speaker 2>A Q, and a on monday we get going at

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01:58:30.039 --> 01:58:31.760
<v Speaker 2>eight am with a check in And a breakfast. At

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01:58:31.760 --> 01:58:35.079
<v Speaker 2>club seventy three welcomes, at eight forty five, Shotgun start

2434
01:58:35.079 --> 01:58:37.640
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2435
01:58:37.680 --> 01:58:40.720
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01:58:40.720 --> 01:58:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Give smart, dot com all right we'll get to the

2437
01:58:43.279 --> 01:58:44.960
<v Speaker 1>five o'clock out of the program coming up.

2438
01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:47.800
<v Speaker 2>In just a minute one of my favorite bumps leading

2439
01:58:47.840 --> 01:58:51.640
<v Speaker 2>into This segment song called montreal By The Ghost. Of

2440
01:58:51.680 --> 01:58:56.039
<v Speaker 2>paul revere? Porter have you ever have you ever had

2441
01:58:56.079 --> 01:58:59.079
<v Speaker 2>A chance to visit? Montreal in the summertimes that's something

2442
01:58:59.119 --> 01:58:59.479
<v Speaker 2>you've ever had?

2443
01:58:59.520 --> 01:59:03.479
<v Speaker 1>A chance to do? Montreal? In, the summertime oh man one.

2444
01:59:03.479 --> 01:59:06.479
<v Speaker 1>WOULD be so LUCKY i. Don't, Think i have okay

2445
01:59:06.560 --> 01:59:08.359
<v Speaker 1>i've never Even Been, to the montreal well you should

2446
01:59:08.359 --> 01:59:09.399
<v Speaker 1>know that it's.

2447
01:59:09.439 --> 01:59:11.920
<v Speaker 2>On my bucket, list AND you know if i have

2448
01:59:11.960 --> 01:59:16.079
<v Speaker 2>any friends that ever Plan a trip to, MONTREAL in

2449
01:59:16.079 --> 01:59:16.960
<v Speaker 2>the summer i just would.

2450
01:59:17.039 --> 01:59:18.039
<v Speaker 1>Like to be included. I'll go.

2451
01:59:18.079 --> 01:59:21.359
<v Speaker 2>With you thank you let's get, to our next, Guest

2452
01:59:21.560 --> 01:59:25.840
<v Speaker 2>live in Studio, Voice of the Stars, voice of the

2453
01:59:25.920 --> 01:59:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Royals Host of, the roundball roundup podcast and former a

2454
01:59:30.560 --> 01:59:33.760
<v Speaker 2>producer And Founder of THE Drive This Program.

2455
01:59:34.439 --> 01:59:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Jp john paul chunga? How are you pal.

2456
01:59:36.359 --> 01:59:38.720
<v Speaker 7>I'm honored to do this in person because that would

2457
01:59:38.760 --> 01:59:40.800
<v Speaker 7>have been hitting me in a different.

2458
01:59:40.800 --> 01:59:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Way, over the phone indeed it's. GREAT to, SEE you i.

2459
01:59:43.760 --> 01:59:46.079
<v Speaker 1>Mean i don't. Know have you been have you been

2460
01:59:46.119 --> 01:59:46.840
<v Speaker 1>to The fine?

2461
01:59:46.840 --> 01:59:47.119
<v Speaker 8>City?

2462
01:59:47.159 --> 01:59:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Of MONTREAL before.

2463
01:59:48.199 --> 01:59:50.319
<v Speaker 7>No but, i HAVE my passport so i would love to.

2464
01:59:50.359 --> 01:59:52.560
<v Speaker 7>Go at some point. It'd be really fun.

2465
01:59:52.399 --> 01:59:53.479
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any plans to?

2466
01:59:53.560 --> 01:59:53.880
<v Speaker 8>GO at?

2467
01:59:53.880 --> 01:59:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Any time? I? DO you?

2468
01:59:55.720 --> 01:59:55.880
<v Speaker 5>Do.

2469
01:59:55.960 --> 01:59:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I, Do.

2470
01:59:56.680 --> 01:59:59.720
<v Speaker 7>Yeah over july i'm Gonna. Be going, TO montreal oh

2471
01:59:59.800 --> 02:00:02.840
<v Speaker 7>man i got a lot of Stuff.

2472
02:00:02.880 --> 02:00:04.079
<v Speaker 1>GOING on, in july I Know.

2473
02:00:04.159 --> 02:00:07.760
<v Speaker 7>Big Twelve media days Media, Days is during July, Summer

2474
02:00:07.800 --> 02:00:09.399
<v Speaker 7>leagues during july and do you have a.

2475
02:00:09.600 --> 02:00:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Packed social schedule on top of?

2476
02:00:11.680 --> 02:00:14.560
<v Speaker 7>Everything THAT you do so i know that it's going

2477
02:00:14.600 --> 02:00:17.239
<v Speaker 7>to be very difficult to get you away for a

2478
02:00:17.279 --> 02:00:18.560
<v Speaker 7>trip if it.

2479
02:00:18.520 --> 02:00:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Were to Be in montreal in july. On, the twenty, fifth.

2480
02:00:21.640 --> 02:00:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah hypothetically, speaking only hypothetically, SPEAKING let's be clear i

2481
02:00:25.479 --> 02:00:26.199
<v Speaker 2>probably could not.

2482
02:00:26.279 --> 02:00:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Make.

2483
02:00:26.439 --> 02:00:28.840
<v Speaker 2>It, happen, UNFORTUNATELY yeah yeah, yeah i know that, which

2484
02:00:28.880 --> 02:00:33.000
<v Speaker 2>you already knew. Which you, already knew let's see where?

2485
02:00:33.000 --> 02:00:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Should We Start today john paul lot going on in

2486
02:00:36.000 --> 02:00:38.880
<v Speaker 2>The Land, Of the utah jazz lot Going on with the.

2487
02:00:38.960 --> 02:00:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Royals and the stars what's keeping? You busiest? Right now Right.

2488
02:00:42.039 --> 02:00:44.359
<v Speaker 7>Now it's the royals. And what they're doing had a.

2489
02:00:44.399 --> 02:00:46.399
<v Speaker 7>Game OVER the weekend and i don't know if. You

2490
02:00:46.439 --> 02:00:47.720
<v Speaker 7>watched the broadcast it was just.

2491
02:00:47.960 --> 02:00:51.479
<v Speaker 2>Your boy, on it, solo, style solo style wow, cutting

2492
02:00:51.479 --> 02:00:52.520
<v Speaker 2>budget more huh.

2493
02:00:52.319 --> 02:00:56.760
<v Speaker 7>Two, hours and thirty minutes entertaining people. Who are watching

2494
02:00:56.800 --> 02:01:01.239
<v Speaker 7>television i'm very impressed actively watching, Tele VISION is this

2495
02:01:01.359 --> 02:01:04.000
<v Speaker 7>and i, give you great credit going Live two To,

2496
02:01:04.119 --> 02:01:09.079
<v Speaker 7>six monday through friday, no exceptions except, YESTERDAY well Four Hours.

2497
02:01:09.119 --> 02:01:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean memorial day we take it. OFF for the

2498
02:01:10.840 --> 02:01:13.199
<v Speaker 1>troops i mean you can knock on us for. THAT if.

2499
02:01:13.239 --> 02:01:16.640
<v Speaker 1>YOU'D like. I agree i agree you should. Have taken yesterday.

2500
02:01:16.640 --> 02:01:18.760
<v Speaker 1>OFF and you did i know that was such a

2501
02:01:18.800 --> 02:01:19.680
<v Speaker 1>difficult thing. FOR you to do.

2502
02:01:19.800 --> 02:01:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to i asked. To do the show

2503
02:01:22.359 --> 02:01:24.119
<v Speaker 2>the key. Card did not Work You.

2504
02:01:24.119 --> 02:01:27.479
<v Speaker 7>Were like colin cowherd you do not, take breaks every day.

2505
02:01:27.560 --> 02:01:31.640
<v Speaker 7>No VACATIONS every day but i did the, broadcast solo

2506
02:01:31.800 --> 02:01:35.159
<v Speaker 7>two HOURS, thirty minutes on kmyu The Home. Of the

2507
02:01:35.279 --> 02:01:37.840
<v Speaker 7>utah royals you can watch those games Next One, up

2508
02:01:37.880 --> 02:01:41.239
<v Speaker 7>against racing louisville but following this team ahead of An

2509
02:01:41.239 --> 02:01:45.239
<v Speaker 7>International break Where ali sentnor the sensation's going to BE

2510
02:01:45.239 --> 02:01:48.000
<v Speaker 7>playing for the us Women's, national team this saturday against

2511
02:01:48.279 --> 02:01:48.760
<v Speaker 7>a Top.

2512
02:01:48.840 --> 02:01:51.199
<v Speaker 1>TWENTY team in china I. Knew it was china give.

2513
02:01:51.239 --> 02:01:51.880
<v Speaker 1>ME a little credit I.

2514
02:01:51.920 --> 02:01:54.640
<v Speaker 7>Knew it, was CHINA congratulations sir and i bet You also,

2515
02:01:54.720 --> 02:01:58.159
<v Speaker 7>knew about mandy McGlenn Who's Also on. The utah royals,

2516
02:01:58.279 --> 02:02:02.279
<v Speaker 7>roster had six saves had, nine the week before including

2517
02:02:02.319 --> 02:02:02.920
<v Speaker 7>the save OF The.

2518
02:02:02.960 --> 02:02:04.039
<v Speaker 1>Week On.

2519
02:02:04.640 --> 02:02:09.239
<v Speaker 7>Buyu zone actually hatch people know her from her starring For.

2520
02:02:09.359 --> 02:02:11.039
<v Speaker 7>THE team down south i know you're not allowed.

2521
02:02:11.039 --> 02:02:11.279
<v Speaker 8>To say.

2522
02:02:11.279 --> 02:02:14.560
<v Speaker 7>That name thank you you remember she made a save

2523
02:02:14.880 --> 02:02:17.439
<v Speaker 7>eleven converted penalties Up until.

2524
02:02:17.479 --> 02:02:18.640
<v Speaker 1>She met mandy McGlenn.

2525
02:02:18.840 --> 02:02:21.479
<v Speaker 7>She's in soaring form, ali's in soaring form and they're

2526
02:02:21.479 --> 02:02:23.960
<v Speaker 7>getting ready for this INTERNATIONAL break for The. Us takes

2527
02:02:24.000 --> 02:02:27.800
<v Speaker 7>on china that consumes me right now and as they

2528
02:02:28.039 --> 02:02:31.279
<v Speaker 7>look to turn the corner on this second year Of Existence.

2529
02:02:31.279 --> 02:02:32.399
<v Speaker 1>As the utah royal so.

2530
02:02:32.399 --> 02:02:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Two AND A half hours tv solo indicates the. Budget

2531
02:02:36.000 --> 02:02:39.720
<v Speaker 2>has been cut who's? To Blame For That, DAVID james djack.

2532
02:02:39.840 --> 02:02:44.760
<v Speaker 7>No dj wasn't available, his SON was graduating which i absolutely.

2533
02:02:45.840 --> 02:02:50.000
<v Speaker 7>Understand empathize with that he had to go and. Attend

2534
02:02:50.000 --> 02:02:52.880
<v Speaker 7>A family, Matter so i. Said i'll do, it. I'll

2535
02:02:52.880 --> 02:02:55.000
<v Speaker 7>do it solo i'll talk to myself for two, and

2536
02:02:55.039 --> 02:02:56.520
<v Speaker 7>A half, hours AND i did and i thought.

2537
02:02:56.520 --> 02:02:58.600
<v Speaker 2>It went pretty well, did you enjoy it. Because some

2538
02:02:58.640 --> 02:03:00.800
<v Speaker 2>people don't some people, think that a heavy.

2539
02:03:00.920 --> 02:03:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Heavy burden to.

2540
02:03:01.720 --> 02:03:03.840
<v Speaker 7>Bear so it wasn't The first time that i've had.

2541
02:03:03.880 --> 02:03:06.359
<v Speaker 7>To do it solo they had me do a couple of,

2542
02:03:06.399 --> 02:03:09.319
<v Speaker 7>games last year solo but. It was ONLY radio but

2543
02:03:09.760 --> 02:03:11.920
<v Speaker 7>for tv you'd just pare it, back a, little bit

2544
02:03:12.039 --> 02:03:15.000
<v Speaker 7>less words. SO it is fine, i really enjoyed it

2545
02:03:15.039 --> 02:03:17.920
<v Speaker 7>and it was an awesome performance by one of the

2546
02:03:17.960 --> 02:03:21.880
<v Speaker 7>best PLAYERS, In All of Nwsl barbara banda with orlando

2547
02:03:22.199 --> 02:03:24.680
<v Speaker 7>and They have the legend marda who's on and is

2548
02:03:24.720 --> 02:03:29.239
<v Speaker 7>Still playing the goat, wow of women's soccer. Thirty nine years.

2549
02:03:29.119 --> 02:03:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Old she's still. Playing at thirty nine.

2550
02:03:31.079 --> 02:03:34.399
<v Speaker 7>She signed a two year extension, to start this year so.

2551
02:03:34.439 --> 02:03:37.439
<v Speaker 1>She's playing. Next year that's twelve she's going to play at.

2552
02:03:37.479 --> 02:03:41.119
<v Speaker 7>The age of FORTY she got the, nwsl championship last

2553
02:03:41.159 --> 02:03:43.880
<v Speaker 7>year the only thing, that she doesn't have and then

2554
02:03:43.920 --> 02:03:44.680
<v Speaker 7>now just trying to.

2555
02:03:44.720 --> 02:03:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Add to the. Legacy at thirty nine She's Going to go.

2556
02:03:46.920 --> 02:03:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Tom brady on.

2557
02:03:47.640 --> 02:03:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Us so we got one two and seven minus eleven goal,

2558
02:03:51.680 --> 02:03:56.279
<v Speaker 2>differential eight goal. Scored nineteen goals allowed what gives why?

2559
02:03:56.359 --> 02:03:58.680
<v Speaker 2>The lack of results ali's obviously awesome.

2560
02:03:58.600 --> 02:04:01.079
<v Speaker 1>Injuries is one hundred percent.

2561
02:04:01.119 --> 02:04:04.600
<v Speaker 7>The reason for that they've lost their captain who's supposed

2562
02:04:04.600 --> 02:04:07.560
<v Speaker 7>to be coming back After, The Break. Against louisville paige

2563
02:04:07.600 --> 02:04:09.640
<v Speaker 7>monahan she hasn't been with the team since, the very

2564
02:04:09.640 --> 02:04:12.760
<v Speaker 7>first game and, Then Their, center back kaylee real also has.

2565
02:04:12.800 --> 02:04:16.119
<v Speaker 7>Been injured as well the top, Earner on The, team

2566
02:04:16.199 --> 02:04:19.279
<v Speaker 7>chloe la, cast their goal scorer was out with an

2567
02:04:19.319 --> 02:04:23.359
<v Speaker 7>acl at the, end of last year so they're expecting

2568
02:04:23.399 --> 02:04:26.319
<v Speaker 7>her later. On in this summer but, without the goal,

2569
02:04:26.399 --> 02:04:29.960
<v Speaker 7>scorer without the captain without, your major center back you've

2570
02:04:30.000 --> 02:04:32.560
<v Speaker 7>just had to dig deep into a, lot of this

2571
02:04:32.760 --> 02:04:37.479
<v Speaker 7>lineup in the. Depth of the squad but ultimately there's still.

2572
02:04:37.479 --> 02:04:39.600
<v Speaker 7>A lot of time there's the second half of the SEASON,

2573
02:04:39.760 --> 02:04:43.319
<v Speaker 7>to go in nwsl and if anything shows from the,

2574
02:04:43.399 --> 02:04:46.359
<v Speaker 7>chaos of the league you get a couple, of good

2575
02:04:46.399 --> 02:04:49.359
<v Speaker 7>results together you can actually string things to where, you're

2576
02:04:49.399 --> 02:04:52.439
<v Speaker 7>in playoff contention just like how they were last year

2577
02:04:52.479 --> 02:04:54.920
<v Speaker 7>where they didn't have this many points at this same.

2578
02:04:55.199 --> 02:04:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Point of, the season that's right they did go on a.

2579
02:04:57.119 --> 02:05:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Crazy rundown the year while, WE'RE in the space i

2580
02:05:00.359 --> 02:05:02.439
<v Speaker 2>know that this. YEAR has been.

2581
02:05:02.640 --> 02:05:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Challenging i know that.

2582
02:05:04.439 --> 02:05:07.159
<v Speaker 2>IT has been trying i would imagine it has tugged

2583
02:05:07.199 --> 02:05:09.319
<v Speaker 2>at your. HEARTSTRINGS a little bit i don't know. What,

2584
02:05:09.399 --> 02:05:11.520
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about well last year we have a fifteen.

2585
02:05:11.600 --> 02:05:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Game on beaten streak we have, records for goals. Scored records,

2586
02:05:15.680 --> 02:05:20.439
<v Speaker 2>for points, it is you know a season that brought

2587
02:05:20.439 --> 02:05:22.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people out of hope about not just THE,

2588
02:05:22.800 --> 02:05:25.159
<v Speaker 2>current situation with rsl but what the.

2589
02:05:25.199 --> 02:05:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Future could look like, GOMEZ no, longer here I?

2590
02:05:29.000 --> 02:05:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Believe is it france they sold them To, A team

2591
02:05:30.760 --> 02:05:34.159
<v Speaker 2>in france Chicho Scoring. Goals in san, Jose you know

2592
02:05:34.199 --> 02:05:35.680
<v Speaker 2>what i'm not even Going. To bring up moose I'm

2593
02:05:35.680 --> 02:05:37.399
<v Speaker 2>going to LEAVE moose aside because i know what. That

2594
02:05:37.520 --> 02:05:40.560
<v Speaker 2>does to, you but you know a lot Of, Offensive Firepower.

2595
02:05:40.640 --> 02:05:44.680
<v Speaker 2>GONE anderson, JULIO ando I, mean i call himano but

2596
02:05:44.720 --> 02:05:46.359
<v Speaker 2>you call HIM whatever you want i call may be,

2597
02:05:49.399 --> 02:05:55.159
<v Speaker 2>several pieces moved on very. Few pieces, brought In Our

2598
02:05:55.199 --> 02:05:59.560
<v Speaker 2>guy big willie goles has not looked. The part just yet,

2599
02:06:00.479 --> 02:06:03.000
<v Speaker 2>on a serious note this feels like a. LOST season

2600
02:06:03.039 --> 02:06:06.079
<v Speaker 2>for ourselves i don't see an avenue. Back, Already lost

2601
02:06:06.119 --> 02:06:08.359
<v Speaker 2>season yes i'm ready. TO say lost season i.

2602
02:06:08.359 --> 02:06:09.479
<v Speaker 1>Mean they lost, me AT the beginning.

2603
02:06:09.520 --> 02:06:11.520
<v Speaker 7>So i know that how's it even more of a

2604
02:06:11.560 --> 02:06:13.680
<v Speaker 7>lost season when you've already lost somebody who was with?

2605
02:06:13.720 --> 02:06:17.880
<v Speaker 7>You since day, one lifelong rsel, fan lifelong was there

2606
02:06:20.159 --> 02:06:23.359
<v Speaker 7>is there at, meet, The Team, day Meeting Jason Christ, MEETING,

2607
02:06:23.680 --> 02:06:29.920
<v Speaker 7>Leslie tiger Fitzpatrick, dj countess j knolly all the people

2608
02:06:30.720 --> 02:06:35.880
<v Speaker 7>for them to see, this regression in results. Aggression and

2609
02:06:35.920 --> 02:06:39.439
<v Speaker 7>gold production and the only promise that you Get IS

2610
02:06:39.479 --> 02:06:44.840
<v Speaker 7>That This harriman messi xavier gozo's coming on this team

2611
02:06:45.439 --> 02:06:50.720
<v Speaker 7>that you. Can really, BUILD behind you, KNOW i need goals.

2612
02:06:50.800 --> 02:06:54.319
<v Speaker 7>I need attractive soccer i, need an idea Something As

2613
02:06:54.359 --> 02:06:58.720
<v Speaker 7>our friend, chris camronnie, would say he said is there an?

2614
02:06:58.760 --> 02:07:02.000
<v Speaker 7>Idea on the field and sometimes you just. Don't see

2615
02:07:02.000 --> 02:07:03.000
<v Speaker 7>any Ideas so.

2616
02:07:03.000 --> 02:07:05.359
<v Speaker 2>That's why i'm out All They do is diego Luna

2617
02:07:05.399 --> 02:07:08.760
<v Speaker 2>well and as ali is headed. To the national team

2618
02:07:08.800 --> 02:07:11.279
<v Speaker 2>diego is gonna represent the National Team, in the gold

2619
02:07:11.279 --> 02:07:12.479
<v Speaker 2>cup so they're going to lose him.

2620
02:07:12.520 --> 02:07:15.119
<v Speaker 1>FOR six, SEVEN weeks i honestly i.

2621
02:07:15.439 --> 02:07:15.479
<v Speaker 2>Just.

2622
02:07:15.520 --> 02:07:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Don't SEE it man like i try TO.

2623
02:07:17.000 --> 02:07:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Be optimistic and i want that, team to do well

2624
02:07:19.239 --> 02:07:20.800
<v Speaker 2>but they are so uninspiring.

2625
02:07:20.840 --> 02:07:24.199
<v Speaker 1>And THEY'RE so boring and i, like the gosh kid

2626
02:07:24.239 --> 02:07:24.399
<v Speaker 1>but he.

2627
02:07:24.439 --> 02:07:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Just graduated high school, Sign a grown, up sign, an

2628
02:07:26.720 --> 02:07:29.199
<v Speaker 2>adult you. Know like do something but now we have

2629
02:07:29.239 --> 02:07:32.079
<v Speaker 2>to wait till. The primary transfer window when the marquee

2630
02:07:32.119 --> 02:07:36.000
<v Speaker 2>signing is the? Goalkeeper secondary, transfer. Window, EXCUSE me summer.

2631
02:07:36.039 --> 02:07:38.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah i know people. WOULD be correcting you, I don't

2632
02:07:38.439 --> 02:07:42.600
<v Speaker 1>want Text, i don't want. Yeah they and such they're,

2633
02:07:42.640 --> 02:07:43.079
<v Speaker 1>still going to.

2634
02:07:43.119 --> 02:07:46.800
<v Speaker 7>Text so It's Okay but when ralpha cabral is Your

2635
02:07:46.800 --> 02:07:50.119
<v Speaker 7>big move and i'm supposed to get psyched about how many,

2636
02:07:50.199 --> 02:07:53.840
<v Speaker 7>SAVES that he's making i don't know if that that.

2637
02:07:53.920 --> 02:07:58.840
<v Speaker 7>Moves the needle here knowing that people Like Our great

2638
02:07:58.880 --> 02:08:02.680
<v Speaker 7>friend nate bench and eight would show up and To

2639
02:08:02.720 --> 02:08:07.359
<v Speaker 7>your attacking soccer pablo would have. This team playing effervescent

2640
02:08:07.439 --> 02:08:12.039
<v Speaker 7>they would be, electric on the field and then you see.

2641
02:08:12.039 --> 02:08:15.560
<v Speaker 7>What they have now not putting the investment with all

2642
02:08:15.600 --> 02:08:17.800
<v Speaker 7>the transfers that, you have going out it should be

2643
02:08:17.840 --> 02:08:21.199
<v Speaker 7>going right back into the team and knowing that there

2644
02:08:21.319 --> 02:08:24.920
<v Speaker 7>is so much that. YOU had last year i just

2645
02:08:24.960 --> 02:08:28.840
<v Speaker 7>feel a. LOT of a lot i feel a lot

2646
02:08:28.920 --> 02:08:32.239
<v Speaker 7>for the fans that are supporting this team because it can.

2647
02:08:32.359 --> 02:08:34.560
<v Speaker 7>Get to great heights you've seen it. Get to great

2648
02:08:34.600 --> 02:08:36.199
<v Speaker 7>heights just? Isn't there right.

2649
02:08:36.119 --> 02:08:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Now do You have confidence despite twitter polls out, there

2650
02:08:40.119 --> 02:08:44.399
<v Speaker 2>who to blame that the ownership transition will lead to economic,

2651
02:08:44.479 --> 02:08:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Investment in additional talent because. Here's the deal, man as

2652
02:08:47.720 --> 02:08:51.199
<v Speaker 2>you know once upon a time you could build a

2653
02:08:51.199 --> 02:08:51.920
<v Speaker 2>good team on a.

2654
02:08:51.920 --> 02:08:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Budget in this league that's how we did it in.

2655
02:08:54.439 --> 02:08:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Two thousand and nine that allowed that club To Lift

2656
02:08:57.039 --> 02:09:01.800
<v Speaker 2>down My ls Cup over beckham and donovan and the

2657
02:09:01.840 --> 02:09:03.760
<v Speaker 2>team of stars against the, team.

2658
02:09:03.880 --> 02:09:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Is the star right we. Can't DO that anymore like.

2659
02:09:07.960 --> 02:09:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know a grip about any of these players that,

2660
02:09:09.720 --> 02:09:13.199
<v Speaker 2>are brought in elsewhere but you read the releases where

2661
02:09:13.239 --> 02:09:15.800
<v Speaker 2>they're paying four or five million dollars, for a, bit

2662
02:09:15.880 --> 02:09:19.079
<v Speaker 2>winger you know to support the fifteen million. Dollars striker

2663
02:09:19.159 --> 02:09:23.359
<v Speaker 2>they signed so with The Ownership TRANSITION and mike, guy

2664
02:09:23.439 --> 02:09:26.159
<v Speaker 2>rai shout out backward hat, Guy in their. Forties no

2665
02:09:26.239 --> 02:09:29.319
<v Speaker 2>big deal he's got his playfull With, hockey and the jazz.

2666
02:09:29.359 --> 02:09:33.319
<v Speaker 2>So he Steps aside my guy blitz maintains a portion.

2667
02:09:33.399 --> 02:09:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Of the ownership control But now. It's the miller's show

2668
02:09:35.319 --> 02:09:36.920
<v Speaker 2>do you think? They're gonna write checks.

2669
02:09:36.800 --> 02:09:40.239
<v Speaker 7>They have to prove it this upcoming transfer window. And

2670
02:09:40.640 --> 02:09:45.039
<v Speaker 7>the successive ones but looking at the track record with

2671
02:09:45.079 --> 02:09:47.000
<v Speaker 7>what They've, done with the jazz you have to think

2672
02:09:47.039 --> 02:09:49.680
<v Speaker 7>that that if they believe that, there's a winner there they,

2673
02:09:49.720 --> 02:09:51.279
<v Speaker 7>will invest in it because that's what.

2674
02:09:51.359 --> 02:09:53.039
<v Speaker 1>They'd done the past.

2675
02:09:52.760 --> 02:09:55.439
<v Speaker 7>If you give them good reasons to Go into luxury

2676
02:09:55.479 --> 02:09:57.920
<v Speaker 7>tax i'm sure they would have Done. It With the, jazz,

2677
02:09:57.960 --> 02:10:03.039
<v Speaker 7>when dennis asks hey can we start making real Trades

2678
02:10:03.079 --> 02:10:06.079
<v Speaker 7>to Build around donovan and rudy and This Next, iteration

2679
02:10:06.319 --> 02:10:09.560
<v Speaker 7>POST gordon hayward can i get that green Light And?

2680
02:10:09.560 --> 02:10:12.640
<v Speaker 7>Go FOR mike conley Can I? Sign boy on bugdanovic,

2681
02:10:12.840 --> 02:10:14.319
<v Speaker 7>and EVEN before That Could?

2682
02:10:14.399 --> 02:10:16.439
<v Speaker 1>I SIGN niko miritic? Could?

2683
02:10:16.439 --> 02:10:16.640
<v Speaker 5>I do.

2684
02:10:16.720 --> 02:10:20.239
<v Speaker 1>That yeah you can they gave him the.

2685
02:10:20.520 --> 02:10:23.920
<v Speaker 7>Opportunity to do that so if you really have a

2686
02:10:24.239 --> 02:10:26.359
<v Speaker 7>detailed plan and are ready, TO go for it i

2687
02:10:26.720 --> 02:10:28.560
<v Speaker 7>have No doubt that the millers would be, able to

2688
02:10:28.600 --> 02:10:29.159
<v Speaker 7>do that and you.

2689
02:10:29.119 --> 02:10:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Need to give them a.

2690
02:10:29.800 --> 02:10:31.800
<v Speaker 7>Little bit of time they're Still in the hunter sufice.

2691
02:10:31.840 --> 02:10:35.079
<v Speaker 7>Sending out, your polls it's, OKAY it'll be. Fine i

2692
02:10:35.199 --> 02:10:37.680
<v Speaker 7>get it you're in the front row of the supporters

2693
02:10:37.720 --> 02:10:41.560
<v Speaker 7>section wearing a, tight jersey looks sick.

2694
02:10:42.319 --> 02:10:46.439
<v Speaker 1>But it'll, be okay you know you can choose. Your

2695
02:10:46.479 --> 02:10:47.680
<v Speaker 1>size of jerseys it doesn't have.

2696
02:10:47.680 --> 02:10:47.880
<v Speaker 8>To be.

2697
02:10:47.920 --> 02:10:50.600
<v Speaker 1>That snug all right, we're all, getting.

2698
02:10:50.600 --> 02:10:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Older we are indeed and, one more thing here because

2699
02:10:54.159 --> 02:10:56.079
<v Speaker 2>you do hear this, thing, where It's like well the

2700
02:10:56.079 --> 02:10:58.760
<v Speaker 2>millers didn't go into Luxury, tax for the jazz a.

2701
02:10:58.840 --> 02:11:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Luxury TAX paying team the nba is one hundred and.

2702
02:11:01.000 --> 02:11:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Eighty five million dollars how much money do you have?

2703
02:11:03.760 --> 02:11:08.079
<v Speaker 2>To spend, an mls not that but let's talk about,

2704
02:11:08.079 --> 02:11:11.319
<v Speaker 2>a number for real because you don't have to spend

2705
02:11:11.319 --> 02:11:14.800
<v Speaker 2>one hundred, and eighty five, mil, but, you ten fifteen,

2706
02:11:14.880 --> 02:11:17.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty and you know spend seven or?

2707
02:11:17.760 --> 02:11:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Eight on one?

2708
02:11:18.920 --> 02:11:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Guy don't you know be bringing four Million dollar players,

2709
02:11:22.920 --> 02:11:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Like Diego is awful lachlan brook can't get, Off the bench.

2710
02:11:27.119 --> 02:11:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Mark zuke has moments but instead of bringing in three

2711
02:11:30.039 --> 02:11:32.960
<v Speaker 2>or four like eight hundred, thousand million dollar players go

2712
02:11:33.039 --> 02:11:37.079
<v Speaker 2>spend seven eight nine million? Dollars on one dude what

2713
02:11:37.239 --> 02:11:39.800
<v Speaker 2>sort of money are? We really looking at what type

2714
02:11:39.800 --> 02:11:41.880
<v Speaker 2>of money are we looking at to get this team

2715
02:11:41.960 --> 02:11:45.600
<v Speaker 2>back to Consistent Competitive Level in major league soccer.

2716
02:11:45.640 --> 02:11:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Fifteen, to twenty mil.

2717
02:11:47.119 --> 02:11:49.760
<v Speaker 7>Yeah it's around there especially to get. Just, a goal

2718
02:11:49.800 --> 02:11:53.720
<v Speaker 7>scorer yeah. Because they Needed somebody you saw chico, at

2719
02:11:53.760 --> 02:11:58.319
<v Speaker 7>a big burden And, Even He. Needed anderson julio andrescomez

2720
02:11:58.399 --> 02:12:01.760
<v Speaker 7>he he needed things around. Him to be successful but

2721
02:12:01.840 --> 02:12:05.840
<v Speaker 7>you have to find someone at the most, crazy position

2722
02:12:05.920 --> 02:12:08.840
<v Speaker 7>in soccer which is being able to score goals when

2723
02:12:09.039 --> 02:12:11.319
<v Speaker 7>eleven people are trying to stop. You from doing that

2724
02:12:11.800 --> 02:12:15.359
<v Speaker 7>and it's why all those guys go, for such high,

2725
02:12:15.439 --> 02:12:19.319
<v Speaker 7>draft such high capital because it is. A very difficult

2726
02:12:19.359 --> 02:12:22.199
<v Speaker 7>job this isn't two thousand and nine where the guy

2727
02:12:22.239 --> 02:12:23.720
<v Speaker 7>who takes the penalty kick.

2728
02:12:24.159 --> 02:12:25.479
<v Speaker 1>Is now A, Doctor.

2729
02:12:25.279 --> 02:12:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Shout out Robbie Shout, out doctor robbie Russell The Championship. For,

2730
02:12:28.560 --> 02:12:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Salt lake city yes, saunders on his line and you

2731
02:12:33.479 --> 02:12:36.319
<v Speaker 2>Think About, not Only robbie Russell But.

2732
02:12:36.840 --> 02:12:40.800
<v Speaker 7>UCLA's own tony beltran that isn't the same thing.

2733
02:12:40.920 --> 02:12:41.199
<v Speaker 8>That you.

2734
02:12:41.279 --> 02:12:44.760
<v Speaker 7>CAN Do Right now a lionel messi is attacking you,

2735
02:12:44.840 --> 02:12:47.680
<v Speaker 7>ON the other end i don't know how it's gonna

2736
02:12:47.720 --> 02:12:51.319
<v Speaker 7>faire When he's going against UCLA's number. Three in the

2737
02:12:51.359 --> 02:12:54.119
<v Speaker 7>back you have to invest in these teams and they have.

2738
02:12:54.199 --> 02:12:57.680
<v Speaker 7>The Youth, investment thing really well You go OUT to

2739
02:12:57.760 --> 02:13:01.600
<v Speaker 7>harriman as i am. GRINDING often pounding pavement I know,

2740
02:13:01.680 --> 02:13:05.439
<v Speaker 7>that watching royals practice you see that the youth. Setup

2741
02:13:05.600 --> 02:13:08.039
<v Speaker 7>is good there they. Have a great facility people want

2742
02:13:08.079 --> 02:13:10.720
<v Speaker 7>to go and play. There and train there but now

2743
02:13:10.720 --> 02:13:13.119
<v Speaker 7>it needs to match an investment on the.

2744
02:13:13.159 --> 02:13:14.680
<v Speaker 1>First senior team level.

2745
02:13:14.520 --> 02:13:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Pablo on the show last, week broke little news because,

2746
02:13:17.960 --> 02:13:21.560
<v Speaker 2>we're journalists around here hard hitting, at that film shoes

2747
02:13:21.680 --> 02:13:24.199
<v Speaker 2>that he Was told that the millers. Are, actually, no

2748
02:13:24.279 --> 02:13:27.880
<v Speaker 2>longer well no, it's not No longer but the millers

2749
02:13:27.920 --> 02:13:32.119
<v Speaker 2>are not Interested in like Selling diego and developing, gozo

2750
02:13:32.119 --> 02:13:33.600
<v Speaker 2>and moving on like they want to keep.

2751
02:13:33.640 --> 02:13:35.600
<v Speaker 1>THE young players here i thought that was a.

2752
02:13:35.600 --> 02:13:39.439
<v Speaker 2>Piece, of good news now If A club In Bundesliga,

2753
02:13:39.560 --> 02:13:43.000
<v Speaker 2>little inside la lega whatever call and Offer, thirty mil

2754
02:13:43.079 --> 02:13:45.640
<v Speaker 2>for diego you probably take The. Thirty mil for diego,

2755
02:13:46.640 --> 02:13:50.199
<v Speaker 2>but until that Happens if, you're an ursel fan that's

2756
02:13:50.640 --> 02:13:52.119
<v Speaker 2>Good news that maybe diego's here.

2757
02:13:52.119 --> 02:13:52.760
<v Speaker 1>For a few years.

2758
02:13:52.800 --> 02:13:55.239
<v Speaker 7>That's the whole thing if they're willing to invest in

2759
02:13:55.439 --> 02:13:58.239
<v Speaker 7>the player that everybody, is going, to watch and frankly

2760
02:13:58.239 --> 02:14:00.680
<v Speaker 7>every other team is looking to defend and. He still

2761
02:14:00.760 --> 02:14:04.359
<v Speaker 7>produces right which is the Most amazing part about diego

2762
02:14:04.479 --> 02:14:07.520
<v Speaker 7>is that he's a marked man amongst a team that

2763
02:14:07.560 --> 02:14:10.560
<v Speaker 7>doesn't really. Have many marked men that he can. Do

2764
02:14:10.640 --> 02:14:14.520
<v Speaker 7>that is unreal if they're willing, to, invest in that

2765
02:14:14.600 --> 02:14:18.079
<v Speaker 7>dude you have to give this ownership group the benefit

2766
02:14:18.119 --> 02:14:20.960
<v Speaker 7>of doubt that they'll start to figure and piece Things

2767
02:14:21.000 --> 02:14:24.239
<v Speaker 7>together with what Kurt has going in looking, at all

2768
02:14:24.279 --> 02:14:25.039
<v Speaker 7>these players.

2769
02:14:24.800 --> 02:14:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like diego is now moon man and?

2770
02:14:27.359 --> 02:14:27.479
<v Speaker 2>No?

2771
02:14:27.520 --> 02:14:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Longer moon, boy yeah oh yeah.

2772
02:14:29.520 --> 02:14:33.600
<v Speaker 7>He's Been Moon man when marizio pochattino talks, about his

2773
02:14:34.279 --> 02:14:36.680
<v Speaker 7>big manhood that is proof.

2774
02:14:36.760 --> 02:14:38.239
<v Speaker 1>That he's a man he's. No longer a.

2775
02:14:38.279 --> 02:14:39.840
<v Speaker 2>BOY i'm, with you i mean we could get into

2776
02:14:39.880 --> 02:14:42.560
<v Speaker 2>the dark Arts, and then done sethary but we can

2777
02:14:42.680 --> 02:14:45.239
<v Speaker 2>leave that aside real quick before you. GET to, the

2778
02:14:45.319 --> 02:14:48.560
<v Speaker 2>jazz i know you know this ninety Five days. Away

2779
02:14:48.640 --> 02:14:51.800
<v Speaker 2>from utah football my question is When do you start

2780
02:14:52.000 --> 02:14:54.239
<v Speaker 2>we start our countdown at One hundred.

2781
02:14:54.319 --> 02:14:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Days for utah football when? Do You Start yours.

2782
02:14:57.079 --> 02:15:01.039
<v Speaker 7>When phil steele comes, out with that book when it

2783
02:15:01.199 --> 02:15:05.720
<v Speaker 7>arrives at the door, after the PRE order that's when,

2784
02:15:05.840 --> 02:15:08.359
<v Speaker 7>i start my campdown BECAUSE that's that's when. I, Know

2785
02:15:08.399 --> 02:15:11.039
<v Speaker 7>it's real YEAH and that's when i can start, looking

2786
02:15:11.079 --> 02:15:16.600
<v Speaker 7>at two, deeps fall, camp battles quarterback, rooms. Tight end

2787
02:15:16.640 --> 02:15:21.399
<v Speaker 7>ROOMS personnel that's when i start really. Gearing in thirteen

2788
02:15:21.479 --> 02:15:24.000
<v Speaker 7>personnel we're fans of. That on, THE show all right,

2789
02:15:24.920 --> 02:15:25.920
<v Speaker 7>a few minutes Left let's.

2790
02:15:25.920 --> 02:15:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Socco little jazz here so we're just a few weeks

2791
02:15:27.960 --> 02:15:32.119
<v Speaker 2>Away from the, draft june twenty, Fifth and you know,

2792
02:15:32.600 --> 02:15:36.479
<v Speaker 2>i'm watching last, Night and you, know crusoe's six', Five

2793
02:15:36.600 --> 02:15:41.560
<v Speaker 2>dort is six,' five shay is, six' seven uh and obviously.

2794
02:15:41.680 --> 02:15:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Chets But but they're, They're perimeter players. Cason Wallace six'

2795
02:15:45.079 --> 02:15:50.319
<v Speaker 2>four jalen sixty. Six the jazz need Length on the.

2796
02:15:50.319 --> 02:15:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Perimeter and we'll see what taylor can do like obviously

2797
02:15:53.359 --> 02:15:55.479
<v Speaker 2>he was hurt. AND so we don't. Know anything about

2798
02:15:55.520 --> 02:15:58.119
<v Speaker 2>him i still like. Him cody's built had a.

2799
02:15:58.199 --> 02:15:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Rough.

2800
02:15:58.439 --> 02:16:01.159
<v Speaker 2>Year one we'll, SEE what happens Here two. For OUR

2801
02:16:01.199 --> 02:16:03.760
<v Speaker 2>listeners jp is a jazz employee so i. Want to

2802
02:16:03.760 --> 02:16:05.159
<v Speaker 2>put you in a bad, spot but as you look

2803
02:16:05.159 --> 02:16:07.920
<v Speaker 2>at the draft, what do you hope they, come away,

2804
02:16:07.960 --> 02:16:10.079
<v Speaker 2>with whether, they stay at five trade up trade down?

2805
02:16:10.119 --> 02:16:11.840
<v Speaker 1>What do. YOU hope they Come away, with this year.

2806
02:16:11.720 --> 02:16:15.840
<v Speaker 7>I think they for them it's another big swing trying

2807
02:16:15.840 --> 02:16:18.800
<v Speaker 7>to get that guy. Who can help this team as

2808
02:16:18.840 --> 02:16:21.399
<v Speaker 7>Everybody's Young because you look at the way okay, see

2809
02:16:21.399 --> 02:16:23.600
<v Speaker 7>built it a lot, of draft PICKS a lot of

2810
02:16:23.680 --> 02:16:26.439
<v Speaker 7>young players and. The cba is going to crush them

2811
02:16:26.479 --> 02:16:30.439
<v Speaker 7>eventually but still that's the way that they're going about

2812
02:16:30.439 --> 02:16:34.879
<v Speaker 7>building this team. And taking big Swings With their draft picks,

2813
02:16:35.000 --> 02:16:38.520
<v Speaker 7>you look at danny aingel's history. In drafts him being.

2814
02:16:38.520 --> 02:16:42.440
<v Speaker 7>Able to find players he's done it before. He knows

2815
02:16:42.520 --> 02:16:49.319
<v Speaker 7>exactly what gets winning teams together so Of Why You

2816
02:16:49.360 --> 02:16:53.159
<v Speaker 7>don't Blanche When he drafts jason. Jlen, brown and jason

2817
02:16:53.159 --> 02:16:56.760
<v Speaker 7>tatum in successive? Drafts, oh isn't there a little position

2818
02:16:56.840 --> 02:17:00.520
<v Speaker 7>crossover no he realizes that this is a league about.

2819
02:17:00.200 --> 02:17:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Wings and you.

2820
02:17:01.280 --> 02:17:05.200
<v Speaker 7>Need wings as The, Lifeblood of your team so for

2821
02:17:05.280 --> 02:17:07.840
<v Speaker 7>the jazz i'm hoping that they find someone who can

2822
02:17:08.280 --> 02:17:12.399
<v Speaker 7>eventually be an impactful player come the time that they're

2823
02:17:12.440 --> 02:17:15.760
<v Speaker 7>ready to go out and win and pushing the other

2824
02:17:15.920 --> 02:17:19.399
<v Speaker 7>draft capital. Because, THEY can't use every Single draft pick

2825
02:17:19.479 --> 02:17:21.959
<v Speaker 7>sure i think of the nets as a team that

2826
02:17:22.680 --> 02:17:25.920
<v Speaker 7>are they going to? Use four first round draft. Picks

2827
02:17:25.959 --> 02:17:29.520
<v Speaker 7>this year four first round Draft picks, it's Not the

2828
02:17:29.600 --> 02:17:33.479
<v Speaker 7>three that the, jazz had and brooklyn's in a, similar

2829
02:17:33.520 --> 02:17:36.760
<v Speaker 7>situation but four first round draft. Picks how are they

2830
02:17:36.799 --> 02:17:40.520
<v Speaker 7>going to use that You're going to see things move

2831
02:17:40.559 --> 02:17:43.879
<v Speaker 7>with the jazz as they start to keep getting in

2832
02:17:43.959 --> 02:17:46.319
<v Speaker 7>that talent acquisition mode and get to the point where

2833
02:17:46.360 --> 02:17:47.040
<v Speaker 7>they've got.

2834
02:17:47.040 --> 02:17:49.319
<v Speaker 2>Guys who will be a part of this we keep

2835
02:17:49.360 --> 02:17:53.040
<v Speaker 2>hearing a lot About the potential of being. Bold and

2836
02:17:53.280 --> 02:17:56.639
<v Speaker 2>san antonio at two is interesting which. FAVORS the, bold

2837
02:17:57.280 --> 02:17:59.520
<v Speaker 2>the team is the star i mean we're. Dropping All

2838
02:17:59.559 --> 02:18:02.079
<v Speaker 2>of the tip bit You need san antonio two. Is

2839
02:18:02.120 --> 02:18:05.760
<v Speaker 2>interesting in phillya three is also interesting philly's More Win.

2840
02:18:05.920 --> 02:18:06.719
<v Speaker 1>Now Because Of m.

2841
02:18:06.760 --> 02:18:10.440
<v Speaker 2>BEAT and, paul george the paul george stuff i mean

2842
02:18:10.440 --> 02:18:12.719
<v Speaker 2>you hear The Stuff about maybe they'll. Move on From

2843
02:18:12.760 --> 02:18:15.799
<v Speaker 2>paul george and trade, three if the jazz wanted to.

2844
02:18:15.799 --> 02:18:17.879
<v Speaker 2>Do that it would have to, include marketing if you

2845
02:18:17.879 --> 02:18:19.639
<v Speaker 2>look at the numbers. There's NO other way to Make

2846
02:18:19.680 --> 02:18:23.360
<v Speaker 2>It work and i don't Know that paul george, is

2847
02:18:23.399 --> 02:18:25.440
<v Speaker 2>something that the jazz, would look at even If A

2848
02:18:25.520 --> 02:18:28.479
<v Speaker 2>men three five and lowry for. PAUL george and three

2849
02:18:28.479 --> 02:18:31.040
<v Speaker 2>and some other, pieces i don't know maybe there's something there?

2850
02:18:32.479 --> 02:18:35.440
<v Speaker 2>But do you believe that there's the potential like If

2851
02:18:35.479 --> 02:18:38.040
<v Speaker 2>you if, you do your calculation on dylan at two

2852
02:18:39.159 --> 02:18:41.719
<v Speaker 2>do you believe it's worth going all in as much

2853
02:18:41.719 --> 02:18:43.399
<v Speaker 2>as you can. To, Try to move up. And Grab

2854
02:18:43.479 --> 02:18:46.239
<v Speaker 2>him no, dallas isn't moving, One, du mott was like.

2855
02:18:46.280 --> 02:18:48.760
<v Speaker 2>We're keeping one nico, you can't trade It we're, keeping

2856
02:18:48.799 --> 02:18:50.360
<v Speaker 2>you know we're gonna draft cooper flag.

2857
02:18:50.159 --> 02:18:52.959
<v Speaker 1>Which is sad that, an, owner has. To come out

2858
02:18:53.000 --> 02:18:55.799
<v Speaker 1>and say yeah sure don't we're. Gonna, do the. Thing that,

2859
02:18:55.840 --> 02:18:56.280
<v Speaker 1>we should.

2860
02:18:56.280 --> 02:18:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Do yep don't, worry ideas pow don't worry but if,

2861
02:18:59.600 --> 02:19:02.520
<v Speaker 2>two's if two and three are In play would you

2862
02:19:02.680 --> 02:19:05.799
<v Speaker 2>like to see the jazz get bold and kind of

2863
02:19:05.840 --> 02:19:06.920
<v Speaker 2>try to do what they.

2864
02:19:06.959 --> 02:19:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Can to, maybe get a franchise changing piece of, course

2865
02:19:09.600 --> 02:19:11.079
<v Speaker 1>because they need a franchise changing.

2866
02:19:11.120 --> 02:19:14.360
<v Speaker 7>Piece, they need, somebody that, can be it yeah the

2867
02:19:14.920 --> 02:19:19.159
<v Speaker 7>guy the coverman the dude who can get this done

2868
02:19:19.319 --> 02:19:22.360
<v Speaker 7>because that guy currently isn't on the roster. AND you

2869
02:19:22.440 --> 02:19:25.879
<v Speaker 7>Need them at this top level i Know Indiana, is

2870
02:19:25.920 --> 02:19:28.760
<v Speaker 7>a very different case with tyrese halburton but he's very

2871
02:19:28.879 --> 02:19:32.200
<v Speaker 7>very good and they did it. Through shrewd trades to

2872
02:19:32.280 --> 02:19:35.479
<v Speaker 7>GET to that point but you need those. A Level

2873
02:19:35.520 --> 02:19:39.440
<v Speaker 7>guys to have some Serious Winning Jalen, Brunson Invested in

2874
02:19:39.600 --> 02:19:42.239
<v Speaker 7>by the new york, knicks anthony edwards a number one

2875
02:19:42.280 --> 02:19:46.479
<v Speaker 7>overall Pick And Then. The entire cavalcade of the. Oklahoma

2876
02:19:46.520 --> 02:19:50.479
<v Speaker 7>city thunder all of that was investment was finding a

2877
02:19:50.520 --> 02:19:53.079
<v Speaker 7>guy and then, building around him someone. Who is a

2878
02:19:53.360 --> 02:19:56.360
<v Speaker 7>Level top of. The line that's what this jazz Team

2879
02:19:56.399 --> 02:19:56.879
<v Speaker 7>Needs you.

2880
02:19:56.840 --> 02:19:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Find yourself cheering for The tea wolves because of. ALL

2881
02:19:58.920 --> 02:19:59.719
<v Speaker 2>the ex jazz guys.

2882
02:19:59.719 --> 02:19:59.799
<v Speaker 5>On the.

2883
02:19:59.879 --> 02:20:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Right i root for. Good basketball.

2884
02:20:02.399 --> 02:20:04.440
<v Speaker 2>That's, IT that's, ALL you want that's it well i

2885
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<v Speaker 2>mean i know how much. YOU'VE been grinding on tape

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02:20:06.639 --> 02:20:09.520
<v Speaker 2>for the draft i just wonder HOW much. SPACE you have,

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<v Speaker 2>Left for actual nba.

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<v Speaker 7>Basketball I watch both i'm Thinking about Both when i,

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<v Speaker 7>WENT to see dylan and ace. IN person, I, know

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<v Speaker 7>you Did gum Shoeing, I Know, okay driving From philly

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<v Speaker 7>to piscataway new. Jersey everybody knows i'm putting in the.

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<v Speaker 7>EFFORT i'm thinking about, THE next level always i know.

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<v Speaker 2>You are i know You are all right we'll call

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<v Speaker 2>it because I've. Taken us to the top of the

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02:20:34.079 --> 02:20:36.000
<v Speaker 2>hour i've Got to get to, the five, O'clock hour Live,

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<v Speaker 2>coming up next of. Course roundball round up all? The

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<v Speaker 2>Great Projects where Can.

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<v Speaker 7>They find Them Roundbowl Rounduputah Jazz. Dot com just search

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<v Speaker 7>utah jazz podcast network you'll be Able to find It

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<v Speaker 7>and Then catch the royals next week friday racing louisville.

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<v Speaker 7>On cam y your local Listings for That?

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<v Speaker 1>Are, YOU caught UP on friends and neighbors yes.

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<v Speaker 7>I completely. I watched it all you did. It's awesome

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02:20:58.479 --> 02:21:01.200
<v Speaker 7>i Have Only one episode deep you. Need a john

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02:21:01.239 --> 02:21:02.799
<v Speaker 7>Hamm On your basketball TEAM you.

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02:21:02.840 --> 02:21:03.079
<v Speaker 8>Need a.

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<v Speaker 7>JOHN hamm and, YOUR tv series, HE'S back i. Like

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02:21:05.879 --> 02:21:06.920
<v Speaker 7>it i am in i.

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02:21:06.920 --> 02:21:07.879
<v Speaker 1>Love it i'm gonna, go, WATCH.

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02:21:07.920 --> 02:21:10.840
<v Speaker 2>It Tonight Great to see you buddy Jp john Paul

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02:21:10.920 --> 02:21:13.920
<v Speaker 2>chung a voice of the Royals The stars. And also

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02:21:14.000 --> 02:21:16.920
<v Speaker 2>host of the roundball roundup podcast most.

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02:21:16.719 --> 02:21:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Notably and importantly a founder.

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02:21:18.600 --> 02:21:21.120
<v Speaker 2>AND a Former Producer of this Radio Show jp STOPS

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02:21:21.120 --> 02:21:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Spot Today.

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02:21:21.559 --> 02:21:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Courtesy who our friends.

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02:21:22.319 --> 02:21:25.280
<v Speaker 2>At ifa country stores when the, seasons change if you

2918
02:21:25.399 --> 02:21:27.280
<v Speaker 2>like any good coach you'll put together your game plan

2919
02:21:27.319 --> 02:21:29.399
<v Speaker 2>for a healthy green LAWN. And you'll TURN To the

2920
02:21:29.479 --> 02:21:32.639
<v Speaker 2>experts at. Ifa got some nhl playoffs coming your way

2921
02:21:32.719 --> 02:21:34.120
<v Speaker 2>coming up, on The other side.

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02:21:33.840 --> 02:21:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Of a quick Break. The Oilers And the.

2923
02:21:36.040 --> 02:21:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Stars live from edmonton four utah mammoth Players Are now

2924
02:21:40.559 --> 02:21:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Gold medal winners As The united states of america won

2925
02:21:43.280 --> 02:21:46.959
<v Speaker 2>the world championships. For the, first time SINCE Nineteen thirty three.

2926
02:21:47.920 --> 02:21:50.600
<v Speaker 2>And then of course, nba playoff basketball Tonight over on

2927
02:21:50.680 --> 02:21:53.879
<v Speaker 2>The Fan It, is the Pacers And the new york

2928
02:21:53.959 --> 02:21:56.280
<v Speaker 2>knicks where the indiana pacers are a two point five

2929
02:21:56.319 --> 02:21:58.799
<v Speaker 2>point favorite to win tonight at home. And take, a

2930
02:21:58.840 --> 02:22:04.200
<v Speaker 2>commanding three to one. Lead all right porter vibe check

2931
02:22:04.440 --> 02:22:06.559
<v Speaker 2>vibe check. TIP off is in, a COUPLE of minutes

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02:22:07.719 --> 02:22:11.760
<v Speaker 2>i will say this and i Agree with the Assertion

2933
02:22:11.920 --> 02:22:15.239
<v Speaker 2>That Just having the knicks in the eastern, conference Finals

2934
02:22:15.840 --> 02:22:18.799
<v Speaker 2>has been a lot. Of fun and i've Enjoyed watching

2935
02:22:18.840 --> 02:22:21.000
<v Speaker 2>these games it's the first time i've. LIKE nervous watched

2936
02:22:21.040 --> 02:22:24.440
<v Speaker 2>anything In a long time. I nervous watched, the jazz,

2937
02:22:24.479 --> 02:22:26.840
<v Speaker 2>when they're good i'd like to you know, cheer FOR

2938
02:22:26.879 --> 02:22:29.719
<v Speaker 2>our local. Teams, all The Time but i don't know,

2939
02:22:29.760 --> 02:22:32.120
<v Speaker 2>man de nie smith. Injury is not nothing it, Really

2940
02:22:32.159 --> 02:22:33.920
<v Speaker 2>is not we'll see if he. Starts we'll see how

2941
02:22:33.920 --> 02:22:36.239
<v Speaker 2>many minutes he plays if, you watch the replay of.

2942
02:22:36.239 --> 02:22:38.360
<v Speaker 1>His ankle role it actually wasn't very severe.

2943
02:22:38.479 --> 02:22:38.680
<v Speaker 7>He just.

2944
02:22:38.760 --> 02:22:41.280
<v Speaker 2>KIND of went Over On it we'll see i would

2945
02:22:41.319 --> 02:22:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Imagine Mitchell robinson GETS the start again, for JOSH hart

2946
02:22:44.600 --> 02:22:46.600
<v Speaker 2>If i Ask you this if i took, jalen and

2947
02:22:46.719 --> 02:22:49.120
<v Speaker 2>kat off the table and said who needs to step

2948
02:22:49.200 --> 02:22:51.159
<v Speaker 2>up on offense for the, next outside of their two

2949
02:22:51.200 --> 02:22:52.959
<v Speaker 2>stars the most give, ME a third Guy You're.

2950
02:22:53.000 --> 02:22:53.719
<v Speaker 1>LOOKING for, tonight.

2951
02:22:55.600 --> 02:22:59.200
<v Speaker 3>I think it's michel bridges i agree, yep i don't

2952
02:22:59.200 --> 02:23:02.040
<v Speaker 3>know That it should be but it is mckail bridges

2953
02:23:02.079 --> 02:23:03.920
<v Speaker 3>because of what, he's shown us his his mid range

2954
02:23:03.959 --> 02:23:08.159
<v Speaker 3>game his ability to his ability to Kind Of, keep

2955
02:23:08.239 --> 02:23:11.440
<v Speaker 3>up space against defenders like Pascal siakam. And and, THE

2956
02:23:11.760 --> 02:23:16.360
<v Speaker 3>link that That indiana has YOU know i go with

2957
02:23:16.440 --> 02:23:18.680
<v Speaker 3>bridges just because i, think that when he is on

2958
02:23:19.440 --> 02:23:21.959
<v Speaker 3>the addition, his shooting makes and here's the other. Thing

2959
02:23:22.120 --> 02:23:24.680
<v Speaker 3>he's going to, play forty plus minutes so if he's

2960
02:23:24.760 --> 02:23:29.479
<v Speaker 3>on it's. Going to give, you way way more production then,

2961
02:23:29.680 --> 02:23:34.600
<v Speaker 3>YOU know if McBride Is so for me i look

2962
02:23:34.639 --> 02:23:37.120
<v Speaker 3>at mickael bridges as not Not only does, he need

2963
02:23:37.159 --> 02:23:40.159
<v Speaker 3>to be the knicks. Number three but he's got to

2964
02:23:40.159 --> 02:23:42.399
<v Speaker 3>be aggressive he's got to be hitting that Pull up,

2965
02:23:42.479 --> 02:23:47.760
<v Speaker 3>jay that, he did in the celtics series and man

2966
02:23:47.799 --> 02:23:49.680
<v Speaker 3>if we could get a, few corner threes out of

2967
02:23:49.719 --> 02:23:54.200
<v Speaker 3>Him a game it's It's Huge for the knicks. Spacing

2968
02:23:54.440 --> 02:23:58.079
<v Speaker 3>and for jalen brunston's OPERATION as. Well that's THAT'S kind

2969
02:23:58.120 --> 02:23:59.600
<v Speaker 3>of where i look but ultimately i.

2970
02:23:59.639 --> 02:24:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Think it's to be. A bi committee.

2971
02:24:01.920 --> 02:24:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Approach you still have confidence i taught you. Four hours

2972
02:24:05.120 --> 02:24:07.120
<v Speaker 2>ago when we, started the show As We say good

2973
02:24:07.200 --> 02:24:07.479
<v Speaker 2>night you?

2974
02:24:07.479 --> 02:24:10.200
<v Speaker 1>STILL think new. York. Can get this done i think

2975
02:24:10.239 --> 02:24:15.079
<v Speaker 1>so man there's, we're.

2976
02:24:15.120 --> 02:24:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Getting into the point, of this series right, we're seven

2977
02:24:17.639 --> 02:24:21.959
<v Speaker 3>games in we're several series in and these coaches are

2978
02:24:22.000 --> 02:24:24.479
<v Speaker 3>to a point now where they kind of, know what

2979
02:24:24.559 --> 02:24:27.239
<v Speaker 3>the other guy is gonna try and they're starting. To

2980
02:24:27.280 --> 02:24:29.280
<v Speaker 3>be a little bit of the gamesmanship they're starting to

2981
02:24:29.280 --> 02:24:30.799
<v Speaker 3>be a little bit, Of the back and forth of,

2982
02:24:31.120 --> 02:24:33.200
<v Speaker 3>All right I'm gonna maybe throw this Out I'm gonna

2983
02:24:33.920 --> 02:24:37.280
<v Speaker 3>i'm gonna try something that rick. Carlisle hasn't seen on

2984
02:24:37.399 --> 02:24:40.079
<v Speaker 3>film or vice versa we're starting to see. A little

2985
02:24:40.079 --> 02:24:41.520
<v Speaker 3>bit of that in, this series, that's what it gets

2986
02:24:41.559 --> 02:24:46.440
<v Speaker 3>really interesting really fun and we may learn a lot

2987
02:24:46.520 --> 02:24:49.159
<v Speaker 3>about what, The rest OF the series looks like, tonight

2988
02:24:49.840 --> 02:24:53.200
<v Speaker 3>and Like i said the last time WHOEVER wins, tonight's

2989
02:24:53.239 --> 02:24:58.040
<v Speaker 3>gonna maybe. Probably most likely i Think win, the SERIES.

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02:24:57.879 --> 02:25:00.399
<v Speaker 2>Don't let us, win game four as i cantinue, to

2991
02:25:00.440 --> 02:25:02.680
<v Speaker 2>say don't let us. Win, game FOUR go back, to

2992
02:25:02.719 --> 02:25:06.280
<v Speaker 2>the garden although, as i said earlier with these two

2993
02:25:06.280 --> 02:25:07.719
<v Speaker 2>teams home court IS.

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02:25:07.760 --> 02:25:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Not nearest paramount as. It is, with okc that's just my.

2995
02:25:10.799 --> 02:25:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Opinion all right let's get out of here time To

2996
02:25:13.440 --> 02:25:16.200
<v Speaker 2>watch some basketball and Some puck Tonight porter what comes our.

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02:25:16.239 --> 02:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Way, on a wednesday edition of the.

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02:25:17.760 --> 02:25:20.239
<v Speaker 3>Program yeah Already, Halfway through the work week ON A

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<v Speaker 3>Wednesday Tim McMahon Stops, By The nba daily assist. On

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02:25:24.000 --> 02:25:28.440
<v Speaker 3>A Wednesday Neil smith Talking Some puck former nhl STANLEY,

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02:25:28.440 --> 02:25:32.799
<v Speaker 3>cup winner Jason christ Stops by for rssel AND then

3002
02:25:32.879 --> 02:25:36.639
<v Speaker 3>chris com ronnie entire hour with. Ck in, studio to

3003
02:25:36.680 --> 02:25:37.680
<v Speaker 3>finish off The show.

3004
02:25:37.479 --> 02:25:39.479
<v Speaker 2>All right that'll be a good wednesday program And we.

3005
02:25:39.559 --> 02:25:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Will say good night for this Tuesday Show, And A,

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02:25:41.520 --> 02:25:45.239
<v Speaker 2>Special Thank, you to rafael BARLOW Lee Ellis Richard.

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02:25:45.239 --> 02:25:46.399
<v Speaker 1>Smith and our guy jp.

3008
02:25:46.639 --> 02:25:49.079
<v Speaker 2>John paul chung always good to see him for any sound,

3009
02:25:49.079 --> 02:25:51.760
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<v Speaker 2>The Stars It actually HELPS out for Porter i'm, spen

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<v Speaker 2>sing and i enjoy your. Tuesday evening enjoy some hockey

3021
02:26:18.559 --> 02:26:20.120
<v Speaker 2>and Some hoops we'll talk to you, on a wednesday

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02:26:20.120 --> 02:26:22.840
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