1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,799 Speaker 1: Before we start the show, I have a quick correction 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,160 from the last episode. In episode eleven of this season, 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,039 I mentioned that Stephen Willard's vehicle and remains were recently 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:15,000 recovered from Flaming Gorge Reservoir. That is incorrect. Stephen and 5 00:00:15,039 --> 00:00:18,480 his two thousand one green Toyota Sequoia were found in 6 00:00:18,559 --> 00:00:22,679 Starvation Reservoir, which is approximately one hundred thirty miles from 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:28,160 Flaming Gorge en route from Salt Lake City to Flaming Gorge. Also, 8 00:00:28,559 --> 00:00:31,679 a few episodes back, I mentioned a podcast series on 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,560 Keys that I took part in, which interviewed Keys's army 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,479 buddy Nathan. That series, The Mind of a Murderer, is 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,880 out now, so check out their multi episode Key series 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:55,880 wherever you listen to podcasts. I promise it's good. This 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:08,560 is a studio both and production. For most of this season, 14 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,319 we've been examining who Keys was, what drove him, and 15 00:01:13,359 --> 00:01:17,959 how he operated through new evidence, new witness statements, new 16 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,040 FBI files, and more. These new lenses have given us 17 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:26,560 better perspective on Keys's crimes and the cases we've looked 18 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,480 at in the past and continue to explore. And as 19 00:01:30,519 --> 00:01:33,439 we pore over new maps, and new information and new 20 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,359 theories and ideas, we can't help but go back to 21 00:01:36,439 --> 00:01:40,879 the unsolved murders. He discussed most his pensant for couples 22 00:01:41,239 --> 00:01:47,959 and how his media consumption impacted his crimes. Earlier this season, 23 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,200 we did a deep dive into couples and examined those 24 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,519 cases for potential connections to Israel Keys. And while we 25 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,799 continue to research potential duos that Keys might have killed 26 00:01:59,719 --> 00:02:04,239 it romantic partners, familial pairs, or complete strangers to one another, 27 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,199 we've also looked into cases that have involved triple murders 28 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:13,319 and familial disappearances. And of dozens, there's one that stands 29 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:23,080 out and has stood out for years. This is true 30 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:29,199 crime bullshit. The Serialized Investigation into Israel Keys Season seven, 31 00:02:29,479 --> 00:02:40,120 Episode twelve Couples, Part two. Throughout our investigation into Israel Keys, 32 00:02:40,719 --> 00:02:45,479 listeners of the show have submitted tips, potential encounters, sightings, 33 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,719 and leads to us. Whenever a new email lands in 34 00:02:48,759 --> 00:02:52,919 our tip inbox, or a social media message notification pops up, 35 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,439 or a listener shares a striking comment during a meet 36 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,560 up or conference, it sends us down yet another rabbit hole. 37 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,800 We do our best to vet the person and their story, 38 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,479 usually through multiple interviews, research of Kisa's timeline and the 39 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,080 details of the story, looking into other tips and stories 40 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,719 we've received that may coincide, and then reviewing it all 41 00:03:15,759 --> 00:03:20,000 with holdback information information we've held from the public that 42 00:03:20,039 --> 00:03:23,439 may assist in further vetting these comments, stories, and tips. 43 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,520 Each person on the research team views these very differently. 44 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:34,039 I tend to be the skeptic, Shana the optimist. Tooks 45 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,199 takes on an unbiased approach to each and everyone. Jordan 46 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,080 and Kathleen tend to be more data minded, each listening 47 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:48,159 to these tips with an ear for details. These journeys 48 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:56,240 have been bizarre, frustrating, hopeful, fruitful, and sometimes hilarious. They've 49 00:03:56,319 --> 00:04:00,599 led to new professional connections, friendships, collaborations, and a sharing 50 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:04,360 of information. Some of these tips have led to dead ends, 51 00:04:04,599 --> 00:04:07,759 while others have helped us Unearthed eye, opening new details 52 00:04:07,879 --> 00:04:11,560 or cases to research. In Anchorage, It's how we learned 53 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:13,960 more about the milk jugs that keys used to weigh 54 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,279 down bodies. A local high school teacher told us that 55 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,439 Detective Monique Dahl had visited her class and shared these 56 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,160 details with her students at a Vermont meet up. The 57 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,519 listener gave us insider information from her family members who 58 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,720 actually worked at the community bank in Tupper Lake while 59 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,399 Keys robbed it. It's also how we made connections with 60 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,560 Sydney Kopp, who connected the dots on the Staceyville John 61 00:04:37,639 --> 00:04:40,240 Doe and helped her former teacher, Christopher Rufe get his 62 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,639 name back. And it's led us to some of our 63 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:51,720 recurring partners Sarah, Kaylene, doctor Chris Cuncle Grandpa Jean. We've 64 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:57,079 also had some wild conversations with bootleggers, former bank robbers, 65 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,480 and even arsonists who wanted to share their thres on 66 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,360 Keys and his crimes. On average, we get about fifteen 67 00:05:05,439 --> 00:05:10,480 tips every single day, and any time I open an email, 68 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,560 I have no idea where it's going to take me 69 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,079 or how much time I'm going to spend with it. 70 00:05:17,319 --> 00:05:19,600 There have been countless times where these tips have led 71 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,160 us to spend hours researching the potential identity of burger 72 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,199 king guy or key sightings around the country, and we've 73 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,079 come up empty handed or knowing less than when we 74 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,759 started exploring a particular lead. We often joke that the 75 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,920 more we know, the less we know. The thing is, however, 76 00:05:38,439 --> 00:05:40,839 we don't need to know where we're headed. When we 77 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,240 dive deeper into this information, we must take the journey 78 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,279 and see what comes of the information. It's all part 79 00:05:48,319 --> 00:05:51,360 of the investigation. Even if we think a tip is 80 00:05:51,439 --> 00:05:55,000 totally bananas, we still have to do our due diligence, 81 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,959 And in twenty twenty one, this is how an unusual 82 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,879 case involving three unexplained deaths ended up on our radar. 83 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,680 Back in twenty twenty one, a listener submitted an interesting 84 00:06:09,759 --> 00:06:12,560 tip about an unsettling case that they'd heard about on 85 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,879 the podcast Trace Evidence. They thought the True Crime Bullshit 86 00:06:16,879 --> 00:06:19,839 Team should look into it. This case hadn't come on 87 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,040 our radar before, but after spending some time looking into it, 88 00:06:23,399 --> 00:06:27,519 we realized that it needed a deep dive, most notably 89 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,319 because it occurred in a Keys hotspot during a time 90 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,240 that he was in the area and during a time 91 00:06:35,319 --> 00:06:38,839 in which the FBI believes Keys committed at least one 92 00:06:38,879 --> 00:06:45,959 homicide in California. After Tooks listened to the Trace Evidence episode, 93 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,519 she shared with the team the peculiar string of events 94 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,759 that led to the unresolved deads of a man and 95 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,720 woman and the murder of a police officer, and this 96 00:06:55,759 --> 00:06:59,199 particular crime reminded all of us of that triple homicide. 97 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,319 Key said he almost committed at Point warrens Off in 98 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,279 twenty eleven, and then. 99 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: During this time frame. 100 00:07:06,199 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: This is also the time frame you talked about Point 101 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:14,199 warns Off for out in that Harry, right, Yeah, right 102 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,680 after you're about the silencer. 103 00:07:18,079 --> 00:07:24,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was I think I went up Togo River 104 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:33,480 after that incident because because a lot of police starting 105 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:34,560 around Acros after. 106 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,639 Speaker 3: Dark and and the time out at Point warns Off. 107 00:07:38,839 --> 00:07:41,120 How late was that when that? I mean, how was 108 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,399 it about eleven o'clock? Was about eleven o'clock? 109 00:07:43,639 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 110 00:07:44,199 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 5: Okay? 111 00:07:44,959 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: And you think that was mid help? How far before 112 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:51,079 you left for you left on June third to go 113 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,680 to or how many days or weeks was that before that? 114 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,319 Speaker 2: I would have been in May sometime probably mid May? 115 00:07:59,639 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 5: Okay. 116 00:08:01,639 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: And do you know for sure if it was an 117 00:08:02,839 --> 00:08:04,040 APD officer or was. 118 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: It it was two of them? 119 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: Definitely not airport police. 120 00:08:14,399 --> 00:08:15,959 Speaker 2: No, I'm pretty sure I saw the car. 121 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: I think it said it had the big it may 122 00:08:19,279 --> 00:08:21,319 it may have been an airport police if their cars 123 00:08:21,319 --> 00:08:22,639 looked the same, but I don't know. 124 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:23,879 Speaker 2: It looked like me. 125 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: Do you remember what kind of car was there other 126 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:28,279 than the police car. What car were you watch it? 127 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,759 Speaker 2: It was a super station wagon. I think what color? 128 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:40,679 Navy blue or darker? Maybe? I don't know why I 129 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,320 was thinking about shooting the cop. 130 00:08:42,399 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 6: I I had always been, you know, ever since I 131 00:08:46,639 --> 00:08:52,279 was a kid. It's like, I don't know, white supremacy 132 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,360 roots or something. That's what I was gonna that. I 133 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,559 was gonna a wish a cop someday. 134 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: And for some reason that night, I had been sitting 135 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:02,519 there long enough. 136 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,639 Speaker 6: And I was just bored enough and just amped up 137 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:09,320 enough that I almost did it. And then that other 138 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,480 cop showed up as backup showed up, cause I I 139 00:09:12,639 --> 00:09:16,720 was just uh, I was just really psyched, I guess 140 00:09:17,039 --> 00:09:21,600 about the gun, and I just kind of started thinking 141 00:09:21,639 --> 00:09:24,559 about what it would be like, cause like, you wouldn't 142 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,799 even hear if I had shot him. 143 00:09:26,879 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: You know, you wouldn't have even here and heard anything. 144 00:09:29,919 --> 00:09:31,639 Speaker 6: You just would have been standing there at the window 145 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,279 one minute and the next minute he would have just 146 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,639 been on the ground. 147 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: They wouldn't have even known what happened. 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Deputy Mitchell enjoyed 179 00:11:54,039 --> 00:11:56,759 working the night shift because it gave him the opportunity 180 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,960 to spend time with his six year old son Jake, 181 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,440 with his wife, Cristel before heading into work. Known as 182 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,320 a doting family man, Deputy Mitchell kept a laminated photograph 183 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,720 of Crystal and Jake inside his badge. He was dedicated 184 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,120 to his loved ones and his career. Mitchell didn't start 185 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:19,360 his career in law enforcement after high school. He spent 186 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,960 five years in the United States Air Force serving as 187 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,879 a security officer, and after completing his military service, Mitchell 188 00:12:27,879 --> 00:12:32,679 earned a teaching certificate from California State University, Sacramento. He 189 00:12:32,759 --> 00:12:35,840 substitute taught for a few years before deciding to switch 190 00:12:35,879 --> 00:12:40,399 to a career in law enforcement. Initially Mitchell worked for 191 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:45,159 the Rio Consunas Correctional Center in Elk Grove, California. There 192 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,399 he utilized his love of teaching, serving as a recreation 193 00:12:48,519 --> 00:12:53,399 technician and helping lead the center's physical education program. In 194 00:12:53,399 --> 00:12:56,080 two thousand and two, he switched to a position as 195 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,919 a deputy and started serving on patrols. And colleagues have 196 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,679 said that Deputy Mitchell took his love of teaching into 197 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,039 his work as a police officer and that it made 198 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,919 him great with community relations. He was also known for 199 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:18,840 his infectious smile, selflessness, and a love for baseball. As 200 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:23,559 October twenty sixth became Friday, October twenty seventh, Deputy Mitchell 201 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,440 was on patrol in a rural area of Sacramento County 202 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,600 called Slow House, which is about twenty miles outside of Sacramento. 203 00:13:31,759 --> 00:13:35,120 At around three thirty am, Deputy Mitchell sent a message 204 00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:39,480 to dispatch using his vehicle's computer. His message let dispatch 205 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,519 know that he was initiating a traffic stop near Mason 206 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,600 Dillard Roads off Highway sixteen. A white Chevrolet van did 207 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:50,000 not have license plates and there appeared to be one 208 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:55,519 occupant inside. Seven minutes after receiving the message, the dispatcher 209 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,759 on duty heard Deputy Mitchell's radio clicking. The dispatcher tried 210 00:13:59,799 --> 00:14:04,879 calling the deputy's police radio but received no response. Then 211 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,399 they tried Mitchell's cell phone, still no answer. It was 212 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:15,799 clear that something was wrong. Within twelve seconds, the dispatcher 213 00:14:15,879 --> 00:14:19,679 called a Code three, sending police with lights and sirens 214 00:14:19,759 --> 00:14:24,240 to Mice and Dillard Roads. The first responding officer found 215 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,840 Deputy Mitchell lying on the road behind his vehicle. He 216 00:14:27,919 --> 00:14:30,879 was bleeding from a single gunshot wound to the head, 217 00:14:31,919 --> 00:14:36,240 his pulse weakened as he clung to life. Soon dozens 218 00:14:36,279 --> 00:14:39,759 of police officers arrived on the scene, trying to assist 219 00:14:39,759 --> 00:14:44,759 Deputy Mitchell and determine what went wrong who had shot 220 00:14:44,799 --> 00:14:51,720 their fellow officer. Sadly, for almost two decades now, these 221 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:56,919 questions have persisted, and at the time, investigators had no 222 00:14:57,039 --> 00:15:03,039 idea how much this mystery was about to deca According 223 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,919 to an interview with s f gate dot com, then 224 00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:09,960 Sacramento County Sheriff John McGinnis told reporters, this may be 225 00:15:10,039 --> 00:15:12,879 a hunch and we may never have the answer, but 226 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,399 it is my belief that there was something that heightened 227 00:15:15,399 --> 00:15:18,399 Deputy Mitchell's response because it does look like he had 228 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,679 begun to handcuff a suspect. Investigators believe that a fight 229 00:15:22,799 --> 00:15:28,399 ensued with Deputy Mitchell losing control of his pistol. A 230 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:32,120 massive manhunt for the white Chevrolet van began, with electronic 231 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,480 highway signs broadcasting the message officer shot white Chevy van 232 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:41,360 no plate. Over the years, Crystal Mitchell has told reporters 233 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:43,919 that she remembers seeing those alerts in the early hours 234 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,960 of October twenty seventh on her heartbreaking drive to the 235 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,159 hospital to say goodbye to her husband. She wasn't allowed 236 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:53,840 to touch him, as investigators told her they needed to 237 00:15:53,879 --> 00:15:58,759 preserve all evidence. At four forty five am on October 238 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:06,279 twenty seven, six, Deputy Mitchell was pronounced dead. When Cristel 239 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,279 returned home, she sat down with their six year old son, 240 00:16:09,399 --> 00:16:12,240 Jake to inform him of the news. Regarding his father, 241 00:16:13,879 --> 00:16:17,159 Cristel told the press, Jake asked me how he died. 242 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,440 I told him a bad man shot his daddy. He 243 00:16:21,559 --> 00:16:26,399 wanted to know where, and I told him in the head. 244 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:29,480 And his next question was why the doctors couldn't put 245 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:34,600 a band aid on him and fix him. While loved 246 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,440 ones began to process the senseless murder of a beloved 247 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,600 father and police officer. The search for the white van 248 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:45,879 and Deputy Mitchell's killer or killers continued. While driving along 249 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,600 Highway forty nine in El Dorado County, a couple who 250 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,840 had seen the Bolo signs earlier noticed something strange near 251 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:56,879 the town of Plymouth, California. In the Consumer's River down 252 00:16:56,919 --> 00:16:59,840 below the highway, there was a white van in the water. 253 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,319 Something wasn't right, and the vehicle looked like the one 254 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,519 on the highway signs, so the couple reported the siding 255 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:12,240 to police. The half submerged van was about thirty minutes 256 00:17:12,279 --> 00:17:16,200 from where Deputy Mitchell was murdered, but while investigators believed 257 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,960 finding the vehicle would lead them to Mitchell's killer, it 258 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:25,960 actually opened up a whole new investigation. Law enforcement responded 259 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,200 to the floating, half submerged van and discovered something shocking. 260 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,960 Inside were the bodies of a man and woman, later 261 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:37,519 identified as Alan Everett Schubert forty three and Nicole Ann Welch, 262 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,000 twenty eight. The van was registered to Schubert, whose body 263 00:17:42,079 --> 00:17:45,000 was found in the driver's seat, with Welch discovered in 264 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:48,400 the rear of the van. There were no obvious signs 265 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:53,599 of what had caused the pair's deaths. Schubert resided in 266 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,640 Sacramento and Welch in the Sacramento suburb of North Highlands. 267 00:17:58,279 --> 00:18:01,519 According to friends, Schubert lived and worked as a handyman 268 00:18:01,599 --> 00:18:05,720 in mechanic, sometimes operating out of his van, which was 269 00:18:05,759 --> 00:18:08,960 filled with his tools. He had offered Nicole Well to 270 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:11,880 ride up to Jackson, where she planned to visit a friend. 271 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,880 Schubert did plan to stay long as he had an 272 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,759 upcoming court appearance in Sacramento. While Schubert did have a 273 00:18:19,839 --> 00:18:22,680 number of charges on his record, none of them were violent. 274 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,519 His mother, Carolyn, told The Sacramento Bee a detective came 275 00:18:26,519 --> 00:18:30,400 to her home to question her about Deputy Mitchell's murder. However, 276 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,680 police quickly ruled out any involvement by Welch or Schubert. 277 00:18:34,039 --> 00:18:37,839 The pair were likely already deceased when Deputy Mitchell initiated 278 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:42,680 the traffic stop. Police also quickly ruled out suicide, in 279 00:18:42,759 --> 00:18:45,240 part after learning that Schubert had plans to move in 280 00:18:45,279 --> 00:18:47,000 with his girlfriend, Robin soon. 281 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: Later. 282 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: Reports from the Sacramento Bee indicated that Schubert, who was 283 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,200 five foot eight and approximately two hundred pounds, had some 284 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,119 marks on him that indicated potential physical trauma, though the 285 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,960 marks could have also occurred. Post mortem autopsies would eventually 286 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,720 determine that Welch and Schubert had died of carbon monoxide poisoning. 287 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:13,359 But how exactly if investigators know. They've yet to publicly 288 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,000 release that information. Police tried to deny a link between 289 00:19:17,079 --> 00:19:21,039 Schubert's van and Deputy Mitchell's murder. It's unclear why they 290 00:19:21,079 --> 00:19:24,880 initially took this stance. However, it soon became undeniable that 291 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,440 the trio's deaths were all linked. Once investigators shifted their 292 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,720 stance on the three deaths being connected, law enforcement was 293 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:35,839 quick to affirm that Nicole Welch and Alan Schubert were 294 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,839 not responsible for Deputy Mitchell's murder. Nicole and Allen were 295 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,960 dead before Deputy Mitchell was murdered, and so the prevailing 296 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,799 theory became that Mitchell stumbled upon the van while someone 297 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,640 was trying to dispose of Welch and Schubert's bodies. So 298 00:19:51,759 --> 00:19:56,920 what happened? Assuming the driver went the speed limit, it 299 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,400 would have taken them about twenty seven minutes to get 300 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,720 from Mace Road to the spot in the river where 301 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,599 Schubert's van was found, and detectives believe that Deputy Mitchell's 302 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,680 killer immediately dumped the van. So there are a number 303 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,799 of theories that could explain this case. There are rumors 304 00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:16,640 that police know who killed Deputy Mitchell, but don't have 305 00:20:16,759 --> 00:20:20,119 enough evidence to charge this person, who some say has 306 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,039 fled to Mexico. Some media reports also allege that Schubert 307 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:28,519 and Welch had ties to meth. Carbon monoxide poisoning is 308 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:32,920 a known risk associated with meth production, so could this 309 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,400 explain the pair's death. Was an involved party attempting to 310 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,240 dispose of their bodies when they encountered Deputy Mitchell. This 311 00:20:40,319 --> 00:20:43,880 theory is certainly the strongest and most plausible, and it 312 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:49,559 appears to be where police lean. However, it's worth examining 313 00:20:49,599 --> 00:20:54,000 if something else happened. Did someone keys or another person 314 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,440 murder Welch and Schubert, and, once discovered by Deputy Mitchell, 315 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,920 shoot the officer to cover their tracks. As far as 316 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,519 Kisa's potential connection, there are several areas of interest worth 317 00:21:07,559 --> 00:21:08,319 exploring here. 318 00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 6: There were a couple of times that I moved you know, 319 00:21:16,319 --> 00:21:19,559 cars and stuff of theirs, but it's not like I kidnapped. 320 00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:22,920 When the cardjaking thing didn't work out, I decided I 321 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,440 was going to look for a house with a couple 322 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:25,759 in it. 323 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: The first point of interest for us was from the 324 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,160 clip we played earlier this episode regarding Keys's thwarted plans 325 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,319 at point Warren's off. His description of what happened there 326 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,039 is eerily similar to what happened with Schubert, Welch and Mitchell. 327 00:21:47,599 --> 00:21:50,079 A male female couple turned up dead in their vehicle 328 00:21:50,599 --> 00:21:53,279 and a police officer was shot and killed at the scene. 329 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: He said, the. 330 00:21:54,599 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 6: Accuracy for a distance with this one, you could actually 331 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,680 get this one to be accurate for a long distance. Yeah. 332 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: Hum, yeah, how did you know that? I mean, how 333 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:02,920 could you touch that? 334 00:22:04,519 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 8: Oh? 335 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: I shot it? I mean I sh I probably I 336 00:22:07,519 --> 00:22:09,799 took it up in their woods out and shoegash and 337 00:22:09,839 --> 00:22:13,599 I had it. I had a whole target system set 338 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:19,160 up there. I had you give away my grand plane here. 339 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,400 But I had. 340 00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:25,559 Speaker 6: A moving target system to where I could trip the 341 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,319 target and it would start rolling downhill on a pulley. 342 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: And it was just a piece of printer paper. 343 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 6: But then I would put a black mark like spray 344 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,240 paying a black mark about that big fra an ame 345 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,000 point and that's what that's what I was shooting at 346 00:22:43,039 --> 00:22:52,720 with it at about fifty yards and that was Uh, 347 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,359 that was the plan I had. 348 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,039 Speaker 7: I didn't actually ended up ended up doing it that 349 00:22:58,079 --> 00:22:58,480 way then. 350 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,519 Speaker 2: Uh. That's the. 351 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: Secondly, Keyes had ties to Sacramento. His grandmother lived there 352 00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:13,799 and he visited her several times. In just six months 353 00:23:13,839 --> 00:23:16,200 after the deaths of Schubert and Welch and the murder 354 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,559 of Mitchell, Keyes was one hour away from slow House, 355 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,960 kayaking and camping alone while Kim was staying at a 356 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,759 nearby resort. That same night, there was an arson at 357 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:30,119 a school just fifteen miles from where Mitchell was found dead. 358 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,640 This is the same two day period that the FBI 359 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,000 believes Keyes murdered someone in northern California, and we believe 360 00:23:38,319 --> 00:23:42,079 that someone may have been at minimum Noam Young of 361 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,960 San Bruno, California, a town car driver who was dispatched 362 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:51,880 to an unknown location and never returned. Records indicate that 363 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,759 from July seventh to the tenth of twenty ten, Keyes 364 00:23:54,839 --> 00:23:58,279 turned off his phone while in Sacramento. He also rented 365 00:23:58,319 --> 00:24:01,680 a car during this period from July ninth to July twelfth, 366 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,400 so it's certainly an area where he was up to 367 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:09,279 something during at least one period in time. We've explored 368 00:24:09,319 --> 00:24:12,480 missing persons who vanished during this blackout period at length 369 00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:15,799 and other episodes, but as a quick aside, it's worth 370 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,920 noting that one of these cases recently saw some movement. 371 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,759 Linda Lee Haney, thirty nine, was last seen in northern 372 00:24:23,799 --> 00:24:28,799 California in late June twenty ten and reported missing in July. 373 00:24:29,839 --> 00:24:32,319 We often wondered if Keys could have been responsible for 374 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,000 her disappearance, given his close proximity to the area at 375 00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:40,640 the time and the details surrounding Haney's disappearance. However, in 376 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,720 November of twenty twenty five, investigators announced that they'd arrested 377 00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:47,720 and charged a man from Tennessee in connection with Linda 378 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:52,160 Hainey's disappearance and presumed murder. Her body has still not 379 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,599 been recovered, but we can almost certainly rule Keys out 380 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,960 in this case moving forward. As we have also covered 381 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,119 at length multiple times, we believe that Keyes buried a 382 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,920 cash at Lake Paris in southern California. There are credible 383 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,200 sightings placing him in the area, and names forty five 384 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,920 cases also point to a southern California victim or victims 385 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,960 and in October two thousand six, the same week that Mitchell, 386 00:25:20,039 --> 00:25:25,920 Allen and Schubert died, Keyes was in California. On October 387 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,720 twenty one of six Keys flew from Seattle to San Diego. 388 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,799 On the twenty second, he crossed into Mexico at the 389 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:38,440 Sandy Cadro California Pedestrian Border crossing, but the travel records 390 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,599 after this are murky. According to the FBI's records, there's 391 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,680 information for a flight on October twenty third from San 392 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,960 Diego to Seattle, followed by a flight from Seattle to 393 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,480 Anchorage on the same day. However, there's also a Seattle 394 00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:58,079 to Anchorage flight on November eighth. Did Keyes stay behind 395 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,880 in California and or Seattle before heading back to Alaska 396 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,799 on November eighth? Did Keys road trip through California to 397 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,200 Oregon and Washington? Or did he fly with Kim from 398 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,319 San Diego back to Seattle on October twenty third? What 399 00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:17,160 was he up to during these sixteen days? This is 400 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,000 a trip. We're currently exploring more and we will report 401 00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:22,680 back if we uncover any additional points of interest or 402 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:28,279 confirmation on further details. While Keys claims to have only 403 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,279 shot and killed one person, Bill Courier, and preferred to 404 00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:35,279 strangle as victims. It is of note to mention that 405 00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:39,920 serial killers Angelo Poino and Kenneth Bianchi experimented with carbon 406 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,880 monoxide poisoning. Anne Charlene and Gerald Gallego killed teenagers Kippi, 407 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,480 Jacqueline Vaught and Rondeli Scheffler on September eleventh, nineteen seventy 408 00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:54,559 eight in Slow House, California. Bueno and Bianchi are covered 409 00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:58,119 in Mind Hunter, and Gallego is featured in Roy Hazelwood's 410 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,319 book Dark Dreams, two true crime books we know Keyes read, 411 00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:06,039 which leads us to another strange coincidence. 412 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,519 Speaker 2: Well, there was a book I read years and years ago. 413 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,440 They gave me a lot of ideas. 414 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,759 Speaker 6: But I can't really blame that because those are Dane stuff. 415 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: When I read that book, But I gave you ideas. Yeah, 416 00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:27,160 what the book was that It's called Intensity, like Dean 417 00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:29,960 Kuhn's back. 418 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,079 Speaker 1: When Tooks first told me about the Schubert Mitchell Welch case, 419 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,119 it sounded incredibly familiar, like I'd read about it before. 420 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,880 But the more we talked about it, the more confused 421 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,119 I got. It was similar but different from the case 422 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,160 that I'd read about as I remembered it. It was 423 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,759 three men who were killed. Not long after I realized 424 00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:56,640 what I was actually remembering a chapter from Mister Murder, 425 00:27:57,039 --> 00:27:59,160 the Dean Kunz book that was found in the shed 426 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,839 where Keys murdered at Samantha Koonig. It's the Dean Koon's 427 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,319 book that makes intensity look like Nobel Prize material. I'm 428 00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:09,720 not going to refresh your memories on this book because 429 00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:12,480 every time I try to describe it, my brain fries 430 00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:15,559 and my eyes ache from rolling. But what I will 431 00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:17,960 tell you is there is a chapter in this terrible 432 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,240 book about a killer sneaking into a parked van, killing 433 00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:25,440 one passenger in the front seat and another in the 434 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,119 rear of the van, then using dser to decompose their bodies, 435 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,039 and eventually waiting for a cop to arrive before then 436 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,359 killing him at the scene too. And this occurs in 437 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,079 Mammoth Lakes, California, just two hundred miles southeast of Slow House. 438 00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:48,759 Maybe these coincidences are innocuous, but throughout our research into keys, 439 00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:52,240 we find a lot of strange connections like these, and 440 00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:54,559 we can't overlook that much of keys. As m o 441 00:28:54,759 --> 00:28:57,720 seems to have been derived from Mister Murder, which was 442 00:28:57,759 --> 00:29:01,799 published in nineteen ninety three. Here just a few passages 443 00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:05,400 from the book. After leaving the dead bodies at the 444 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,039 job site, he should have broken the weapon down into 445 00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:11,160 as many pieces as possible. He should have disposed of 446 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,599 its parts in widely separated locations, the barrel in a 447 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,319 storm drain, perhaps half the frame in the creek, the 448 00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:23,039 other half in a dumpster, until nothing was left. This 449 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,839 is almost identical to what happened after the couriers. The 450 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,559 book goes on with He parks the rental Ford in 451 00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:35,480 a residential neighborhood and walks three blocks, trying the doors 452 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,200 of the cars at the curb. Only half are locked. 453 00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:40,599 He is prepared to hot wire a car if it 454 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,119 comes to that, but in a blue Honda, he finds 455 00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:47,319 the keys tucked behind the sun visor, driving back to 456 00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:50,880 the Ford and transferring his suit cases and the pistol 457 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,200 to the Honda. Again eerily similar to what happened with 458 00:29:56,279 --> 00:30:01,599 the couriers. With credit cards, someone will surely be able 459 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,200 to track him through his purchases. He will need to 460 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,359 pay cash from now on. He swaps the license plates 461 00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:11,400 on the Honda for those on a Chevy, making his 462 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,359 stolen vehicle more difficult to locate. The neighbors couldn't have 463 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,519 heard gunshots above the raging storm. The killer's mo in 464 00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:24,599 the book is this he would carjack someone or steal 465 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,720 a car, take off or swap the license plates, use 466 00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:31,680 their car in the commission of a murder, then abandon 467 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,440 it and find a new one, always covering his tracks 468 00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:38,880 and keeping his known location as far as possible from 469 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:44,559 the location of his crime. Sound familiar and this book 470 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,200 largely takes place in Las Vegas, Riverside, Barstow, and the 471 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,680 surrounding deserts and forests, all areas Keys spent a significant 472 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,319 amount of time in whether or not Keys had any 473 00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:02,400 involvement in the deaths of Mitchell, Schubert, and Welch. This 474 00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:05,920 case also highlights something we've encountered often in our research. 475 00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:10,119 Certain victims or missing people are treated differently by police 476 00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:13,359 and the media, especially if the victims have a history 477 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,759 of drug use or come from lower socioeconomic means. While 478 00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:21,839 there are countless details about Deputy Mitchell, there is very 479 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,559 little information available about the other two victims in this case, 480 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,839 Nicole Welch and Alan Schubert, the two victims debts who 481 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,759 undoubtedly led to Deputy Mitchell's From what we have learned, 482 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,079 Schubert was a skilled mechanic with a deep knowledge of cars. 483 00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:42,160 He was a son, brother, uncle, and boyfriend. He loved 484 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,640 animals and left behind a dog named Brutus. His obituary 485 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,599 noted that his mom, Carolyne, was his biggest hero, and 486 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,640 in lieu of flowers, loved ones were asked to donate 487 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,160 to the Sacramento Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. 488 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,480 Even a few months before drafting this episode, one of 489 00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:02,920 Alan's friends commented on his online obituary that they are 490 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,799 still thinking of and missing him nearly twenty years later. Unfortunately, 491 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,599 there is even less information available publicly about Nicole Welch. However, 492 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,759 we know the families and loved ones of all three 493 00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:19,839 individuals are still hoping for answers to understand what happened 494 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:38,359 in late October two thousand and six. Outside Sacramento. In 495 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,000 twenty fifteen, thieves stole a bench and other mementoes from 496 00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:46,079 a memorial erected for Deputy Mitchell. A year later, thanks 497 00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:49,640 to support from the community, a new bench was installed 498 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,319 near the site of his murder. The baseball field in 499 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,519 El Dorado Hills was also named in Deputy Mitchell's honor 500 00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:00,440 to commemorate his love of baseball and his care immunity. 501 00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:06,000 In twenty sixteen, ten years after his death, Schubert's mother, 502 00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:09,559 Caroline died. She never got answers on what happened to 503 00:33:09,599 --> 00:33:14,240 her son. On October twenty seventh, twenty twenty five, the 504 00:33:14,319 --> 00:33:18,039 nineteen year anniversary of Deputy Mitchell's death, his son Jake 505 00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:22,400 shared this tribute on social media. There's so many things 506 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,039 I could say about my dad. First off, just that 507 00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:28,519 I miss him more than words will ever explain. Being 508 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,640 six when he was taken from us meant that so 509 00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:33,519 many memories in life were taken from my family and me. 510 00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:38,319 Never got to play catch, getting taught to shave, teaching 511 00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:41,559 me how to throw a curveball, or watching Red Zone 512 00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:44,640 on Sundays. I still know every day he's looking down 513 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,039 on my family and supporting us and being our angel. 514 00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:51,720 But there's always that what if, what if he was 515 00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:55,319 still here feeling every day? There's one thing I've heard 516 00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:58,759 from all my dad's friends and family. He was always smiling, 517 00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:01,720 no matter what. The Asian or time of day, just 518 00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:05,920 bringing pure joy to everyone he met. I still live 519 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,960 and abide by this myself, hoping to carry that part 520 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,679 of him with me everywhere I go. He touched so 521 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,400 many people's lives, and hopefully one day we can get 522 00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:17,239 justice for whoever took him away from us. If you 523 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,800 know anything, please let the Sacramento Sheriff's Office know. It 524 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:26,480 would mean the world to us. Unfortunately, our repeated Foye 525 00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:30,000 attempts for this case have been denied, at least for now, 526 00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:33,679 But it's a case like Linda Haney's that we're keeping 527 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,039 on our radar, whether or not Keys was involved. We 528 00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:40,559 hope the families of Nicole Welch, Alan Schubert and Deputy 529 00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:42,480 Jeffrey Mitchell get answers soon. 530 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:08,199 Speaker 9: Who's on a bad moon, Who's on a taxi journ 531 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,960 in the clockberg avoiding the fire with this man he 532 00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:19,440 is meeting stands on the lobby, counties, questions in the 533 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:26,119 neon lights and count the river suwer line touches the 534 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:31,559 edit the suburbs. Back to the beach where a family 535 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,079 is waiting on. 536 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,679 Speaker 8: Rumors of summer, lay out of blanket and bring somethings 537 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:39,440 of feed. 538 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 5: The Burns. 539 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: If you have any information regarding Deputy Jeffrey Mitchell's murder 540 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,679 or the deaths of Alan Schubert or Nicole Welch, please 541 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,880 submit a tip to the Sacramento County Sheriff's Office online 542 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,679 or at nine one six eight seven four eight four 543 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,840 seven seven. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced 544 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,519 by Michelle Tooker, with additional writing and editing by Josh 545 00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:06,679 Hallmark and research assistants by Jordan Taylor and Shana wa Lensky. 546 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,679 Sources include NamUs, The Charlie Project, Mister Murder by Dean Coonts, 547 00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:17,000 Intensity by Dean Coontz, The Sacramento b The Trace Evidence Podcast, 548 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,400 SFGate dot Com, and Unresolved dot me. 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