Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to a bit
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of the Clippers culture I think was moved today. Terrence
Man is no longer a Clipper. Unfortunate bummer, but all
in all, it's better for both parties involved in this.
For sure, Terrence Man was out of the rotation, he
was not getting meaningful minutes, he was not having the
best season. It's tough, you know, emotionally. But the move
the Clippers trade, excuse me, the move the Clippers made
makes a lot of sense. It was Terrence Man and
Bones Highland for Bogdan Bogdanovich and three second round picks,
which might tell you something about how Bogden Bogdanovic has
been playing and some of these ticky tacky injuries he's
had to deal with so far this season. It's been
his statistically kind of his worst year in uh in
the league so far, but he's you know, it pairs
the rotation down. The Clippers also moved Kevin Porter Junior
for someone who I don't think is going to play
very much in Marjon Beauchamp. I don't know how many
minutes he's gonna play, but yeah, it's it's a bit
of a bummer. Renzo the old head. I'm I'm older
than him, so that man will be missed, but it
had to be done. He will get cheers from his
fan base anytime he steps on the court Game six
and gave five duck ungle Beart will always be remembered.
Couldn't have said it better myself. A very weird tenure
for Terrence. He did everything the Clippers asked him to do.
He played multiple positions, you know, in the same seven
day stretch, but there was a bit of a plateau
development wise, and it just made sense for the Clippers.
Nothing but love for Terrence Man. You know, on this podcast,
we love Terrence Man, but it was time to move
on for both parties. Hopefully he can go to Atlanta,
get some playing time, get back into form, because when
he is playing well, he can really help a team.
How this helps the Clippers. Well, the rotation, like I mentioned,
is paired down right, we don't have to do any
more of this. Who's the backup too? You know? Is
Terrence gonna play tonight? Is KPJ gonna play tonight? We
don't really know, Law Murray tweeting out that Bogdanovic should
be looked at as Kevin Junior's replacement. So as of now,
it would appear that the backcourt off the bench is
going to be Chris Dunn and Bogden, which is, hey, okay,
you got the defense there with Chris done a point
of attack. Law also said this, really I thought this
interesting thing about like not thinking of it in terms
of a backup point guard and more like a play starter,
you know, kind of being asked to do different things
depending on who you're on the floor with. So Ty
still has some stuff to figure out how we're gonna
use these guys. But again, if Bogden can get back
anywhere close to what his his averages from three, the
Clippers are gonna be great. He's a career thirty eight
percent shooter from deep. He's at thirty percent this year.
He's bad. He's also at his worst field goal percentage
so theoretically, again I'm saying, theoretically should be moving up,
and it looks like if it ends up working out,
it's a wonderful trade for the Clippers. They get these
seconds which people were upset about when we traded for
Drew Eubanks, So now we get one of those back.
So it's gonna be interesting. Ursula is asking why do
you think the Hawks agreed to this trade? I couldn't
tell you. I do not know why the Hawks agreed
to this trade. They get Bones Highland to be their
backup point guard. I mean, for they're kind of a
lost franchise, like where they're going wise, you know what
I mean. So I think it's just a weird move
that a weird front office does, Like I just think
that's what happens. Jeremy Mormon asking what do you think
they're going to do with the second round picks? Do
you think they're going to make a move in the
offseason or do you think you're gonna use them to
draft players? I don't know second round picks. I don't
mean this disrespectfully. I lose track of them as soon
as they come into the play, into the mix until
they're traded how many do we We got three when
we got Luke Canard, we get three here. They just
they're kind of like water. I don't I don't know
what they're gonna do with them. Probably draft a big
who can't shoot very well, as my guess with the
second round picks, So we'll see. Kevin Porter Junior also
moved off the team, which I'm gonna be honest, I
was a little surprised about this, just based on how
much time he was getting and seemingly the fact that
he just was cemented as the backup point guard. But
he's been traded in Milwaukee for Marjohn Beauchamp. I don't
know a whole lot about boat Champ. I don't think
he's gonna be the backup point guard. Well, we'll see
what happens. We'll see if he if he plays meaningful
minutes for this Clippers team. I don't think it's gonna
happen tonight against the Pacers, obviously, so it'll be interesting there.
And now everything kind of moves towards the buyout market,
right lot Murray saying, you know, Ben Simmons is going
to be a big target for the Clippers. I think
he's gonna be a big target for most teams on
a buyout. It's hard to dislike the idea of Ben
Simmons again for absolutely free on the buyout market. Malcolm
Brogden is another guy whose name has come up a lot.
We thought the Clippers had a trade for Malcolm Brogden
not too long ago, and then that was mixed. So
I don't know what's gonna happen. I think they could
maybe sign both if they really wanted to, but probably
Ben Simmons is the focus right now. Will Updyke, another
host of this pod, really wants Ben Simmons, which would
be interesting. Yeap Tory Craig off the market. He's off
to Boston. Can't blame him. Why would you not go
there if you were Craig? But Ben, I don't. I mean,
there's like other than Ben Simmons and Malcolm Brogden, Like
who else? Do we really want it to be on
a buyout for this Clippers team? Oh, they're saying Brogden
is staying well and it's Ben Simmons. Baby. Some did
point out it would be fun to have a Bogden
and a Brogden on the team. That'd be a good
time Okay, yeah, here we go, David Aldridge. The Wizards
are holding on to Malcolm Brogden because they believe that
he and newly acquired Chris Milton and Smart would be
good mentors for the young Guards and Wings. We'll see.
Lonzo Ball is absolutely not available. Lonzo Ball signed a
contract extension, so we are not getting Lonzo Ball. Sorry
to burst anyone's bubble there, There's been some Larry Nance
has Like there's a couple of people in the chat
right now who are who wanted Larry Nance. He's kind
of been on the the buy out. Maybe we should
get this guy radar for the Clippers for a little bit.
I don't for a team that's like trying to get
who needs maybe a younger, more athletic piece for defense.
I don't know if Larry Nance is the right move.
I'm not like mad at it. He's a great locker
room guy. He's I mean, you know, he's not terrible, right,
but I'm not sure defensively it's necessarily what the Clippers
would be looking for. He's played twenty games this season,
but again, this is buyout, so like it's hard to
be like, you know, arguing between Ben Simmons and Larry
Nance Junior. Everyone wins or loses, depending how you look
at it. Yeah, here we go LaMelo and maybe he's Ion.
Yeah coming soon, let's do it. But yeah, I mean
I thought this deadline was gonna be kind of quiet
than it was for the Clippers, and then they moved Terrence. Man,
it is relatively quiet, right, There wasn't any real big
swings to have. How much better do you think the
Clippers got after this trade deadline? There's gonna be some
buyout candidates, but I think they're slightly better, for sure.
I think they're better in the sense that we understand
the rotation more now there's less moves for Tylou to
kind of make with the rotation, because I was a
little concerned about that. As we went forward, it was like,
what we need a clear cut rotation, right, we had
this rotating starting lineup. It became very apparent that Derek
Jones Junior should be in that starting spot instead of
Chris Done, which is great. Now we get a little
more flexibility off the bench, a guy who in Bogden
who does fit well with this team. For sure. I'm
still a little worried about backup center. But I guess
that's where you get Ben Simmons to come in and
effectively be a small ball back up center. Nico needs
a break. He's a little older, He's gonna be asked
to play center in the playoffs, and we just need
someone to maybe spell him a little bit. And yeah,
you know, I'm not mad at Ben Simmons for the backup. Yeah,
Chris g sand kind of the idea of the shooting,
especially from Bogden, because it's been really bad this year,
but it should get better. It would be nice. Ursula's
got the plug, uh saying both Clippers and Cavs eyeing
Ben Simmons. I think, yeah, a lot of teams. All
the reports are like a lot of teams are gonna
be eyeing Ben Simmons. Hey, the Clipper is gonna offer
him a pretty big role and he brings you. If
you're not asking him to shoot, you're not asking him
to do anything but basically move the ball and place
solid defense, which he can still do. I think, so
Ben Simmons in the role the Clippers would have for
him in that, please just play defense, Please move the ball,
make the cuts. When you make the cuts, signal for
the oop when you got it. I think would be
great for a backup center role. Hi okay, Cat saying Hi,
say what's up, Bravy. Yes, so this is a great point.
If we can get the Boggan that was going shot
for shot with Team USA, we get a lot better.
Hell yeah we do. That was an awesome Bogden. Bogden
also hates the Lakers with the passion, which I think
helps this team. Maybe that's why they got him after
getting our asses handed to us the other night. M
Greggy saying, Kelly olynok and Lonnie Walker available. I dislike
Olenick as a just as a fan. I don't like Olyenic,
but I think he would be good for the Clippers
team Jeffrey saying, honestly, I was so take pouschere over Boggie.
Ship is sailed. Man, I don't know what to tell you, sorry,
but that's where we are. I don't we can't Microman like,
what are we gonna do here? Watch the Raptors. I
guess I don't know. It would be cool. I bet
they called for him, but they couldn't make the move.
Max asking, so overwhile, did we get better or no?
I think the Clippers got better they got better in
a very boring way, which is shoring up the bench
rotation and the rotation overall, and what Bogie should be
able to bring in terms of shooting. Not looking at
this year, but holistically, I think it makes the team better.
Does it make them some kind of super contender that
now has some way better chance of getting out of
the first round? Not necessarily, but they are better right
like this, I think the rotation is settled for the
most part. We'll see how the buyout plays out, which
could take a while to wait. Buyouts kind of take
a weird amount of time, So don't don't hope for
a ton of news on that. Yeah, Ursula a great point.
I think we got better as long as we didn't
compromise our defense. Totally agree. We kept we didn't lose
any defense in any of these trades, which is great.
We kept Chris Dunn, Terrence Man's defense, the idea of
it is there. He just wasn't playing bones not lose
any defense with that. So here we are. We are back. Yes,
addition by subtraction yet again, that is the theme of
this season. Thank you Norm Powell and thank you John
for putting that on. Yeah, because he actually shoots. Bogey
is a better version of Cannard because he actually shoots
the ball. Oscar is upset. We can't win a damn trade.
How did we lose the Bogdanovitch trade? What? How did
we lose that trade? We didn't lose that trade. In
the say we traded two guys who don't play for
a guy who's going to be the backup two guard.
I don't consider that a loss. I don't consider it
a loss. And those three seconds could be anything. They
could even be another Terrence Man. Yeah, getting Ben Simmons again,
buy out like we can maintain the defense. Nayerbot asking
of the new additions, is Bognen the only one that
gets actual minutes? I'm choosing to believe actual minutes as
you mean, like meaningful minutes, right, And the answer is yes.
Drew Eubanks, we'll probably see an expanded role for him tonight,
but I don't really know what that looks like in
the locker room. But Boggin's gonna get real minutes. Bogin's
going to be the second guy off the bench for
a playoff team, so he's very much getting real minutes.
John Paul wants to know. What about Beauchamp. I don't know. Man,
he averages two points a game. I can't see him
making a huge impact. I just don't think he's gonna
get a bunch of it. There's no disrespect on him.
I'm not super familiar with his game looking at the stats,
I don't see him taking anyone's place in this, uh
this lineup for the Clippers. Maybe, but also I just
I don't think it's a very good shot. No disrespect
to the guy. Go follow him on Twitter. He'll follow
you back. That was happening a bunch, but it's not.
You know, we trade out the backup point guard for Beauchamp.
I just don't he's not taken. He's not Whose minutes
is he taken? Oh damn. Sorry to Jason Davis as
a diehard FSU and Clippers fan, it's a tough day.
Will miss Man. Hate to see him go. It was tough.
There's a lot of great memories with Terrence Man. He
hated he hates Luca, which we all love. Obviously, Game six,
the Game five dunk was awesome. Really series against Dallas two. Hey,
so it's tough. Sorry. I hope you have the Terrence
man Fsu Jersey. That's pretty sick, actually, one hundred percent
welcome to the Canoes. But also moving KPJ for the
player that they moved him for in boat Champ opens
up some opportunities for Jordan Miller, right, Like, I don't
think Jordan Miller and bow Champ are that far apart
in terms of where they are, So this does, hopefully, theoretically,
if you want to pull the strings, open up some
more time time for Jordan Miller. So it'll be interesting. Hi, Yeah,
you gotta get out of here. He is. He is
very much on the Canoes, though, Wami saying, and this
is a fair question, apart from his obvious flaws, what
is the justification for trading our only backup ball handler?
The justification is you don't have to worry about what
the hell the rotation looks like, and you've set a
bench rotation for the backcourt as Kris Don and Bogden.
I mean that that's the justification. I was. I agree.
I was surprised, just from a pure basketball perspective how
much KPJ was allowed to do for the team, But
this shows up the rotation. There was a I said
it earlier, but it's kind of like it's not so
much like backup ball hands. I just can you set
shit up? Like, I don't know, they know how to
get things going better, you know, to the front office's eyes.
But it's a totally fair question because it is like, okay,
like Brogden staying too, so that kind of takes off
one of the possible other you know, backup ball handlers.
So we'll see how it works. J C. C Asking
I wonder why we didn't get a stretch for because
there's none available, Like what what stretch for are we
going to get? This person's concerned that the Lakers and
the Nuggets are too big for us. I don't know, man,
I guess that's never really been like, we've never been
like beat because you're not. We have one of the
we have a top ten center, which helps. Bogden is
not a small two, you know what I mean. I
think they're gonna be okay. Again. This team is a
this team is a let's get out of the first
round safely team, and that's where they're at right now. Yeah,
I think this is totally fair. Gregy saying, I think
we need more shot makers. I feel we have enough defense.
Not enough offense. That's where you hope that Bogden shooting
comes back up right again. Career thirty eight percent shooter,
really down in the dumps this year, so we hope
that goes back up. It's not been very good this year.
I'm not gonna pretend that, but we just that we
hope that it gets back to his usual career splits
from outside for sure. Alfredo Rodriguez of the teams who
made major trade Spurs, Warriors, Lakers rank them in terms,
It's the Lakers, but that's obviously the Lakers. They added
Luka donc it's the damn Nightmare. It's the I'm not
the Warriors whatever. The Spurs are very annoying, which is
which is not fun, But it's the Lakers. They added
the they added the best player. So Jonathan Gonzalez I
like this point. Doesn't it suck not having a Zoo
back up? It does. Someday I'm gonna write a very
long winded book about how everything has gone wrong since
the Clippers traded Hartenstein. It is weird. We'll see what
Drew Eubanks looks like. He said all the right things,
and the pressers right. He just wants to be there
to fill in give gives you a break and stuff
like that, but it does kind of suck right now.
It's a little murky, and we hope that if they
do get Ben Simmons on the buyout, that's kind of
the small ball five backups, so you can give Nico
a break a little bit, I think. So we just
have to wait and see how the buyout market works,
but it does kind of suck. If they get Ben Simmons,
it makes me feel a little bit better because it's
just more bodies you can put at the five position
for the Clippers, So that would make me feel a
little bit better than I do as of now. But
it's a completely fair point, mister Gonzales, that it does
kind of suck to not have like a true backup
for Zoo talk about swings and missus. The Clippers and
backup centers have been bad these last couple of seasons.
You saying, Tyler, you are gonna play Patty Mills like
KPJ was on the Clippers. Wouldn't be surprised. Hope that
doesn't happen. We might see some Patty minutes, but I
don't think that's gonna happen. Yes, the perfect sentiment from
GREGI here, John Wallover, Hartenstein, damn you PG could not
agree more with this sentiment right here. Yeah, there's a
lot of people really freaking out just doing a numbers
thing here. And the two rotational guys the Clippers lost.
Bone's not a rotational guy. Terrence was borderline not a
rotational guy. He wasn't getting minutes, and the KPJ one,
it was a little surprising to see him traded. I'm
not going to pretend that T D yes absolutely. Who
else is available on the buyout market who can possibly
play the backup five. There's been Larry Nance Jr. There's
been Ben Simmons. I guess I would go the younger,
the younger option. I think that's kind of what I
would lean towards, would be the younger again buy out arguing,
you know, trying to debate Larry Nance over over Ben Simmons.
I don't know if anyone's winning that argument. I don't
mean that disrespectfully. So yeah, I feel pretty good, right
I don't. It's hard to feel like upset if you
take kind of holistically what the Clippers had to work with,
which is not a lot, especially in draft capital, they
got better. They short up their rotation. You traded two
guys who don't play for a guy who's going to
be your backup two. You traded your backup one, which
we'll see how this works, because evidently they believe in
Chris Dunn and the idea that Bogden can kind of
do what they're supposed to do. Uh with the offense
as backups. And there you go. The Clippers had no
first round picks to trade. Let's just everyone chill about that.
I know it's hard to having Fomo's real when every
other team is making a bunch of trades. The Fomo's real.
Jeffrey Herrera asking what seed do we think the Clippers
will finish at? Right now? They are the sixth seed.
The team above them, who is two and a half
games ahead, just got Luka Doncic. They are three and
a half games behind the Nuggets, and they are a
half game up on the seven seed Timberwolves. I think
we're looking at I mean six and seven and eight.
Feel where we're gonna be. I think it's six, seven
or eight. Let's undrespect to the Clippers. The Lakers got better.
We don't know what the MAVs look like but I
think they got better. They got worse. I take that
back immediately. So I think they're gonna be like that
six to seven or eight. I don't know if they're gonna
be able to climb to five. With what the Lakers
have done, it's gonna be tough. Yeah, I think it's
gonna stay at six. Okay, I'm heading out. Thank you
everyone for hanging out. This is gonna be up in
audio later tonight. We're doing a full crew episode tomorrow
with myself, Adam and will go watch Adam over on
Clippers Talk. Let's hope the Clippers get a win tonight.
The Pacers are gonna be annoying, but let's hope that
we get a win tonight. We'll talk to y'all tomorrow.
As always, Let's go Clips. Welcome the new Clippers with
open arms. It's gonna be a good time. Thank you everything,
Terrence Man, and we will talk to you all tomorrow