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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to episode twenty three of Scary Era,
Speaker 1: hosted by me Mark Manning from the East coast of
Speaker 1: Dublin in Ireland. Our guest today will be Eugene Dorin,
Speaker 1: founder of Paranormal Afterlife and a recent convert into Ghost
Speaker 1: Era run by our old friend Paranormal Trousers Anthony, So
Speaker 1: do stay tuned for him because he's a really interesting guy.
Speaker 1: And now it's time for our regular little insert random, anonymous,
Speaker 1: strange but true.
Speaker 2: I grew up in the village of Whitegate in Cork Harbor.
Speaker 2: We are the last place you passed through before the
Speaker 2: hellhole that he is Troubulgne. Before it was a holiday center,
Speaker 2: it was an Irish school before that was a convent.
Speaker 2: The story concerned a monk that traveled around the country
Speaker 2: but eventually settled in Whitegate as it was beside the sea,
Speaker 2: but also because at where he'd met and fell in
Speaker 2: love with a young nun. They began to have their
Speaker 2: secret affair. However, they were caught and, in a very
Speaker 2: Unchristian punishment, befell the young nun, who was buried in
Speaker 2: the wall of the newly constructed archway leading to the grounds.
Speaker 2: Wrought with despair, the monk later hung himself from the arch.
Speaker 2: The iron peg he tied the rope to is still
Speaker 2: visible today. No one knows who hangs the noose there
Speaker 2: every year when it is closed for the holidays.
Speaker 3: This tale is more sad than scary. But here in
Speaker 3: Wicklow Town long ago, there was a chapel in Melancholy Lane,
Speaker 3: which continues from the Green Hill Road to the main street,
Speaker 3: and one Sunday morning, when the people were at mass,
Speaker 3: the soldiers under Sir Charles Coote, who had been sent
Speaker 3: over by Queen Elizabeth in the sixteenth century, surrounded the
Speaker 3: lane set fire to the chapel. Some of the soldiers
Speaker 3: blocked the top of the lane. Others formed a line
Speaker 3: at the bottom, so that when the people were in
Speaker 3: the middle of the lane, the soldiers gathered around them
Speaker 3: and killed them. The blood ran down the lane and
Speaker 3: through the main street. It is said that the bricks
Speaker 3: from the ruins of the chapel were built into a
Speaker 3: house which was unlucky. This is why that lane is
Speaker 3: called melancholy Lane.
Speaker 1: I've always thought ghost stories were just that, stories that
Speaker 1: made up stuff you tell around the fire that ends
Speaker 1: with a boo and everyone listening enjoys a goofy laugh
Speaker 1: before moving on to the next tale of horror. I'm
Speaker 1: an atheist, so by default I will deny any indulgence
Speaker 1: in deity, ghosts, or thing after life. When I tell
Speaker 1: this story, I emphasize that it's all the more trouble
Speaker 1: and for me as it challenges my steadfast belief in
Speaker 1: science over religious belief. So saying all that, here's my
Speaker 1: recounting of an experience of a haunting. I used to
Speaker 1: work with the young people who could be described as
Speaker 1: vulnerable or high risk. The work tended toward physical, outdoor
Speaker 1: activities and we often used residential centers across Northern Ireland.
Speaker 1: I'd been in this line of work for nearly fifteen
Speaker 1: years at the time I had this experience, so I
Speaker 1: wasn't some skiddy nube that got spooked by being in
Speaker 1: a unfamiliar building. I led a team of five youth
Speaker 1: workers and we were constantly looking for different venues to
Speaker 1: run short residential for the utes. We were responsible for.
Speaker 1: The kids we worked with fifteen to sixteen years old.
Speaker 1: We generally mess around all night and our main objective
Speaker 1: was to make sure they didn't burn the building to
Speaker 1: the grind or kill each other during the night. You
Speaker 1: might think I'm exaggerating, but this was more than twenty
Speaker 1: five years ago. In life in Belfast was just a
Speaker 1: strying kids and the net result for us meant the
Speaker 1: fixed the deranged kids business was booming. Our charges got
Speaker 1: us kicked out if most of the usual centers for
Speaker 1: anything from arson, vandalism, GBH, intoxication or all of the above.
Speaker 1: After many searches, we found great accommodation in Glenariffe, not
Speaker 1: too far from the forest park. The building we ended
Speaker 1: up using was owned by the monks. The ownership reinforced
Speaker 1: by the odd cross or two on the walls and
Speaker 1: the odd child of prag statue which we hid straight away.
Speaker 1: It had been a parochial house or retreat center that
Speaker 1: had a smell that can only be described as a
Speaker 1: mix of incense, nineteen seventy's bo and fear, but as
Speaker 1: a residential venue for high risk kids it was great.
Speaker 1: No neighbors are warden to keep awake, solid internal walls
Speaker 1: with a good sound insulation, and at least five miles
Speaker 1: from civilization, and to be honest, there wasn't much the
Speaker 1: kids could do to wreck the place, as it was
Speaker 1: an old building with old furniture and random pictures of
Speaker 1: landscapes and Christ and saints hanging from the walls. We
Speaker 1: were on our second night and we had a few
Speaker 1: incidents that almost end at the residential and then things
Speaker 1: were looking better once our group had settled for the night.
Speaker 1: At four am, I was locking up the building and
Speaker 1: was in the process of locking the kitchen door. I
Speaker 1: couldn't get the right key from the bunch in my hand,
Speaker 1: and the only light I had was the glow of
Speaker 1: the white and green fire eggsit sign at the end
Speaker 1: of the corridor that I was standing in. We had
Speaker 1: tried a few keys, old cast iron ones, all rust
Speaker 1: brown and shiny, with years of oxide in greasy hands.
Speaker 1: I found the right one with a bit of red
Speaker 1: tape on it, locked the door, pulled the key, and
Speaker 1: turned to walk the corridor leading to the stairs when
Speaker 1: a child, laughing ran like a flash across the corridor.
Speaker 1: My first reaction was the whispered word through gritted teeth
Speaker 1: christ As. I couldn't work out how one of our
Speaker 1: kids got down the stairs and passed all my colleagues.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, God, it's four a m. I thought
Speaker 1: we were done for the night. However, two things then
Speaker 1: occurred to me that equally confounded me, which rolled in
Speaker 1: my mind in a quick looping succession, and I can't
Speaker 1: say how much time passed as I tried to separate
Speaker 1: these observations. Before I could make any sense of what
Speaker 1: I had just witnessed. We had one of those shift
Speaker 1: and perspective that as akin to hearing someone you know
Speaker 1: well has just died, that dizzy hammering in your head.
Speaker 1: Will you think you'll be sick if you speak or breathe?
Speaker 1: I had just seen a boy aged no more than
Speaker 1: ten years old, wearing gray shorts, black brogues, knee length
Speaker 1: socks which had fallen to his ankles, running across a
Speaker 1: corridor that had no doors or openings on either side.
Speaker 1: I won't say I shrugged this off like a champ,
Speaker 1: because I didn't, and neither do I know more than
Speaker 1: twenty five years later. There was no way it was
Speaker 1: a trick of the light or a figment of a
Speaker 1: tired mind. It was real, no matter how much my
Speaker 1: atheist brain wants to deny it. I used the building
Speaker 1: only once more, and on that occasion again in the
Speaker 1: dead of night, my young traveler from Limerick had a caesier,
Speaker 1: and my colleagues and I were desperately trying to manage
Speaker 1: with our basic first aid skills for an hour before
Speaker 1: the ambulance arrived. As he recovered, he was staring over
Speaker 1: my shoulder. He spoke and said there was a a
Speaker 1: boy laughing behind me. The Limerick kids started wailing, saying
Speaker 1: a load of indecipherable stuff. Heard him saying that the
Speaker 1: boy told him he would be standing in the shadows soon.
Speaker 1: He was so bloody scared. I'll tell you ny that
Speaker 1: nearly finished me. I purely kept it together while we
Speaker 1: waited for the ambulance. I'll confess I was on full
Speaker 1: tilt for a number of years after, I never went
Speaker 1: back to that place, and I'm not sure if it
Speaker 1: was the catalyst for me to leave youth work and
Speaker 1: change career. I live in Dublin. I I used to
Speaker 1: tell this story occasionally when I thought some one would
Speaker 1: get what I saw. More often than not, people listen,
Speaker 1: not laugh, ask if it was real, But no one
Speaker 1: has ever asked how it affected me. Moh have driven
Speaker 1: past that building once since then. I hear it's been
Speaker 1: turned into holiday apartments, but I'm not about to go
Speaker 1: for a look at that place any time soon. I
Speaker 1: would be happier now if I heard the place had
Speaker 1: burnt to the ground, the rubble and ashes tipped into
Speaker 1: the sea. I also heard that the traveler boy from
Speaker 1: Limerick got shot on the head by a point to
Speaker 1: two rifle and he managed to survive. So if you
Speaker 1: know the place I'm talking about, keep it to yourself
Speaker 1: and don't want to hear you are ever there, Nor
Speaker 1: will I describe the place for there for you to find.
Speaker 1: I'm only telling you this as a gentle warning. Do
Speaker 1: not seek out paranormal stuff, because if you find it,
Speaker 1: it won't become a story that you keep to tell people.
Speaker 1: It becomes the stuff that keeps you awake at night,
Speaker 1: twenty five years later, Mark Manning.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a couple of things over the years. But
Speaker 4: I've learned, well I don't. I suppose it's not learned.
Speaker 4: I've just become accustomed to it. And I think it's
Speaker 4: kind of it's it's maybe it's another sense or something.
Speaker 4: But often when you go into places, you will get
Speaker 4: a feeling for the place and you'll get a feeling
Speaker 4: of whether or not it's comfortable. And whatever cause is that.
Speaker 4: Who knows what causes that. But we have an intuition.
Speaker 4: We have an inbuilt intuition. I can't describe what it
Speaker 4: is or where it comes from, or the physics of
Speaker 4: it or the chemistry of it, but it's there, and
Speaker 4: anybody will will tell you to stay with your intuition.
Speaker 4: If you think something doesn't feel right, then don't hang around.
Speaker 5: Superb advice from regular contributor to Scary Era, David McGlynn
Speaker 5: aka the Squire, and don't hang around either. If you've
Speaker 5: got an Irish paranormal tale to tell, simply email Paranormal
Speaker 5: Ireland at ProtonMail dot com and it'll be read out
Speaker 5: for you before you get to teleton air yourself. That's
Speaker 5: Paranormal Island at ProtonMail dot com.
Speaker 6: Hi Jenny Sullivan Here. I am the creator and founder
Speaker 6: of Emerald Isle Paranormal Researchers. You can find our latest
Speaker 6: investigation of the beautiful and infamous Lepcastle. You can find
Speaker 6: that on our YouTube page and our Facebook page.
Speaker 7: Hello Scary Era listeners. My name is Anthony Corrigan and
Speaker 7: I'm a member of the paranormal psychical research team called
Speaker 7: ghost Era. You can catch up on where we have
Speaker 7: been also see what we've got up in the future
Speaker 7: by logging into our website ww dot Ghostereo dot net.
Speaker 7: You can also watch shows of the ghost Aid channel,
Speaker 7: where we interview numerous people in the field of the
Speaker 7: paranormal and FOURTEENA. You can also check us on our
Speaker 7: social media pages on Facebook, Instagram and YouTube by just
Speaker 7: typing in Ghostterer or Ghosttero Paranormal.
Speaker 1: You can also watch our new show.
Speaker 7: Phantasm Collective on channels such as Prime UK and also
Speaker 7: Paraflex and other streaming services to be announced. I just
Speaker 7: got to deal with this ghost, now.
Speaker 1: Get out.
Speaker 8: My name is Matthew Clark and I'm mister Cork Supernatural Society,
Speaker 8: our most recent investigation took us to a location called
Speaker 8: the Black Gates in County Cork, which is the ruins
Speaker 8: of an ancient churchyard said to be hunted by a
Speaker 8: demonic presence of a vicar who gave evidence against the
Speaker 8: Irish Rebels to the British and the Irish rebels ended
Speaker 8: up being executed with their heads cut off and put
Speaker 8: on the gate. You can find out about the investigation
Speaker 8: by following us on Facebook or Instagram at Cox Supernatural
Speaker 8: Society and we'll update Any evidence caught on that investigation
Speaker 8: will go up on ease of those pages. Follow us
Speaker 8: on Cox Supernatural Society on Facebook or Instagram.
Speaker 1: Stay with me a moment, because Dublin isn't just a city,
Speaker 1: It's a sperrit. From humble beginnings and tough streets, its
Speaker 1: people have forwarded something unbreakable. There's a warmth behind the struggle,
Speaker 1: a determination that never fades. They are, without question, the
Speaker 1: salt of the earth, steady, strong and full of heart.
Speaker 1: Allow me introduce you to one of Dublin's sons, Eugene
Speaker 1: from After Life Paranormal.
Speaker 9: Welcome, Thank you, Mike, thanks for having me on the program.
Speaker 1: Whereabouts in Dublin are you from originally Eugene bally Firma origine.
Speaker 1: You had that kind of hard edge, didn't you in
Speaker 1: bally Fermat and Ballymont back in the day. But once
Speaker 1: you were in the fold of the community, it was
Speaker 1: a beautiful place, am I right?
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, bally Firmat people are gray. And
Speaker 9: most of my motor's family actually lived in Ballymont, believe
Speaker 9: it or not. And two my uncles started Ballymon athletic
Speaker 9: at the time, would have been in the seventies.
Speaker 1: But do you know really was I don't want to
Speaker 1: be all cliched, but you might know that song in
Speaker 1: the love of the common people right the community, the
Speaker 1: community spirit that exists in kind of inner city Dublin
Speaker 1: or you know even on the outskirts that the whole
Speaker 1: I don't know in Chacorkland Dock and Ballymont, bally firmat
Speaker 1: Sheriff Street, you know you could and I'm sure people
Speaker 1: did back in the day. You would leave your key
Speaker 1: in your door. Neighbors used to regularly go into each
Speaker 1: other's houses. I were remember, that's true.
Speaker 9: A lot of people left are key on the chin
Speaker 9: in through the letter box. Yeah, and you would just
Speaker 9: come and go. And neighbors were great because I remember
Speaker 9: as a kids, mimas, you don't drop in next door
Speaker 9: to missus smith and ass would you have a bit
Speaker 9: of boater till to see which I have a drop
Speaker 9: of milk stuff. But that's I think all people are
Speaker 9: like that. And then guys, I don't think they had
Speaker 9: as much as they have today, you know. And there
Speaker 9: was more a community back in the old days, if
Speaker 9: that's what I want to call it, the owl days.
Speaker 9: But yeah, people were more it was more to gether
Speaker 9: in us than anything. I don't think people had a lot,
Speaker 9: so they used to share.
Speaker 1: So when were the first inklings in Eugene Doran's life
Speaker 1: that there might be something, say, beyond the veil of normality.
Speaker 9: I suppose man said that she lived in I think
Speaker 9: it was something like two sixty four Cowtry Road or
Speaker 9: remember she the ghost, Well that's what she told me.
Speaker 9: And he used to switch on the washing machine, torn
Speaker 9: off the washing machine, lights at flicker, stuff like that.
Speaker 9: And she eventually move down to number one Country Route
Speaker 9: and she said the ghost follow that there, but there
Speaker 9: was a friendly grouse that they were tricks on her,
Speaker 9: and you know, torn off Floyd, so she might ton
Speaker 9: the tally off on go into the kitchen to get
Speaker 9: a cup of tears and to come back to tally
Speaker 9: be off. So she had little stories like that, all
Speaker 9: of little mistagious teams stuff with gow Miss and she'd
Speaker 9: be looking for that for ages and all of a
Speaker 9: sudden they just appear in front of her. So she
Speaker 9: she called her the ghost, her mischievous friend, and he
Speaker 9: followed that that's what she said, yeah, and she may
Speaker 9: have to you and dan Dale then she made with
Speaker 9: the darn Dale and she said the ghost or spirit
Speaker 9: whichever some people call them ghosts. I prefer the world spirit. Yeah,
Speaker 9: And he followed our tale, Daran Dale and doing the
Speaker 9: same things all the time up till the day she
Speaker 9: does it. But she always said there was now malice,
Speaker 9: now harm. And it was just she talked to himcause
Speaker 9: she actually walked down the house talking to him, believe
Speaker 9: it or not. So yeah, and that was kind of
Speaker 9: that really got me into it. So I was saying, oh,
Speaker 9: something going on here. And then probably maybe seven or
Speaker 9: eight was me forced trip to the health for her
Speaker 9: club with my parents and and then had come out
Speaker 9: from England. They were looking for somewhere to go. It
Speaker 9: was lovely summer's evening, so we all headed up to
Speaker 9: the health for her clothes. We forced to climbed up
Speaker 9: in the roof. I had a look around, wasn't didn't
Speaker 9: really know the story of it. And then obviously on
Speaker 9: the drive up they were telling me and and that
Speaker 9: the story of the devil playing cards jumped up set
Speaker 9: the place on for her, and so we started chaining in.
Speaker 9: But I remember going home that night and I went
Speaker 9: to bead and I felt today scared. I was thinking, oh,
Speaker 9: the devil, he could be coming out or whatever. My
Speaker 9: mother came up to me because she knew something was up,
Speaker 9: and she actually said to me, oh, I don't really
Speaker 9: God look after you and did their only stories or whatever.
Speaker 9: So from that I said, well, if there's just started,
Speaker 9: there must be something behind it. So from then on
Speaker 9: then I started kind of getting into not to your cult,
Speaker 9: but reading up on things and start pointing magazines diractly
Speaker 9: had pictures of Dracqueline Gouts and the wolf Man of
Speaker 9: the Bedroom. So that's when I really started getting into
Speaker 9: it then. So I suppose probably from bout seven or eight,
Speaker 9: I was thinking myself or the something else.
Speaker 1: Here so when we instead of like watching the A
Speaker 1: team or whatever you were, you were locked up with
Speaker 1: your your ghost magazines and.
Speaker 9: Yeah, gast Magan. And then when I got a little
Speaker 9: bit older, then I started reading Steven King books and
Speaker 9: James Herbert books. You know, I was just all stuff
Speaker 9: like that. But like James Herbert, one of the first
Speaker 9: books are read was Despair. It was the Spare of
Speaker 9: Christ and the Nazi's looking for stuff like that was
Speaker 9: that was probably the first book I remember reading. And
Speaker 9: then I was that got me, you know, wondering what
Speaker 9: they culture is.
Speaker 1: About Eugene visitation dreams. So you were telling me before
Speaker 1: we did this interview that you had two of them.
Speaker 1: Can you recall those for us?
Speaker 9: I can't. The first one was it's gone back to
Speaker 9: two thousand and eight. Then my best friend died in
Speaker 9: November the twenty ninth, and probably a few months later
Speaker 9: in the January, I was duringing and I was in
Speaker 9: the city center near Liberty Hall and over in Elder Connie, Oya.
Speaker 9: Same my best friend Oliver near Liberty Hall and he
Speaker 9: was riving to me, boy a new boy is gesturing,
Speaker 9: and the way he was new when he was actually
Speaker 9: asked me was like, okay, it was everything funny, I
Speaker 9: said I was, and with that the dream ended. And
Speaker 9: then a couple of month flyer at blood driven whether
Speaker 9: in a restaurant or the campaign of some sort, and
Speaker 9: over to the left weathers a set of dollars. One
Speaker 9: whiter goes in moondre or that's bringing in the flight
Speaker 9: and the boy that's bringing out the field comes out
Speaker 9: another door. So we pointed to me towards the dolls
Speaker 9: and said watch yourself stop. So we stopped dead and
Speaker 9: with that a trolley came out. Why I can pushing
Speaker 9: out with trolley and nearly hit me. So that was
Speaker 9: going for a couple of dys Later, I was driving
Speaker 9: to walk and as a kind of a set of lights,
Speaker 9: and I stopped just as we took off. When the
Speaker 9: lights went read the force car went. I was the
Speaker 9: second car, and just as we pulled away, just to
Speaker 9: the left kne in the corner you orither spotted some
Speaker 9: white or looked there realized it as a car, and
Speaker 9: I tried the spade up a little bit to get
Speaker 9: out as well. But he actually came through the junction
Speaker 9: that the lights would have been read for him, and
Speaker 9: he actually destroying that fast came through the junction and
Speaker 9: he hit me. But I think if it hadn't a been,
Speaker 9: I knew that dream was warning me of something. So
Speaker 9: it was kind of a left on the day offered
Speaker 9: a few days before I talking to Jerry shown the
Speaker 9: town me something and car actually hit me at the back.
Speaker 9: Go if it hit me and de Soid in the front,
Speaker 9: if Carl would have ended up in the joyb scene
Speaker 9: and that's what the police counties. Yeah, so that was
Speaker 9: kind of they were two visitis and dreams. I had
Speaker 9: had a couple of down back a few years or
Speaker 9: about I don't know whether they would have been because
Speaker 9: there was a lot younger. Maybe it was just imagination,
Speaker 9: but now now today that's not And I've spout the
Speaker 9: other people since then and they've had some similar and
Speaker 9: dreams or hysitis and dreams, if you will. But yeah,
Speaker 9: it's really interested in that. I suppose visitisans can come
Speaker 9: in different forms. Ago he can to me that I
Speaker 9: walk with and he said to me that is a
Speaker 9: family member that his had died, but a lot long
Speaker 9: before she already bar about the perfume, and he said
Speaker 9: that in around the time of our anniversary that he
Speaker 9: can actually smell the perfume, and she died about twenty
Speaker 9: years ago, but he is convinced coming up to the
Speaker 9: diet that she died he can actually smell perfume for
Speaker 9: a dire tab before that. So that was That's very interesting.
Speaker 9: Other things that I love to hear about stories that
Speaker 9: people telling me of instances where they're seeing someone that
Speaker 9: they haven't seen in a long time and did wave
Speaker 9: to them on the street on the fire side out
Speaker 9: only take half an hour later and meet somebody else. Oh,
Speaker 9: we just said, oh we met you Jane, that I
Speaker 9: seen you Jane earlier on again my wife and the
Speaker 9: person said, now should Jine go it two years ago?
Speaker 9: You know, stuff like that, why did he see them?
Speaker 9: Or stuff like that. But yeah, I kind of really
Speaker 9: got into it affter that then I started that I
Speaker 9: put a little team together and I said, he said,
Speaker 9: you know what, let's go to some castles, Let's go
Speaker 9: to some houses. Let's find out is there something else?
Speaker 9: Is that a residual energy that people leave behind.
Speaker 1: It was very interesting that Jerry, your good friend came
Speaker 1: back to you.
Speaker 9: Strange the vikings happened. Another thing that fascinating me is
Speaker 9: you know some people it's past lawyers. That's kind of another.
Speaker 9: That's something else you know for me like pass lawyers.
Speaker 9: Is you ever get a feeling that you're know something
Speaker 9: really well and that, for instance, that Mike Heights, it's
Speaker 9: I'm fascinated with World War two, jemy in the Nazis,
Speaker 9: and fascinate with the realm and end where And when
Speaker 9: you look about them together, you think the rallies in
Speaker 9: Neuron Bowl that they would have had, and then Melnick
Speaker 9: and all these places, and then you think of the
Speaker 9: big parade the Roumans would have had all the flags,
Speaker 9: the pomp, the howler. I think he said, well, they're
Speaker 9: very your luke. Maybe they tried to take out the
Speaker 9: water and different millennia, if you want to say. And
Speaker 9: then I think to himself, that's sometimes you say to yourself.
Speaker 9: I was saying that before, or you remember that you
Speaker 9: look at something. And I went to see two different
Speaker 9: mediums himself. One head in Orland I spouked it and
Speaker 9: one in America. Was in America about ten years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 9: ten years ago. I was in America and I'll just
Speaker 9: for the phone of it. I said, I'll go and
Speaker 9: say a medium that I'm seeing it up, said we
Speaker 9: go want to have a thing, and both of them
Speaker 9: mediums said, oh he was a gem and soldier in
Speaker 9: the Second World War, right, and thinking, oh, we don't
Speaker 9: know about that. But when they were explaining to me,
Speaker 9: they ex both explained that I would have been a child,
Speaker 9: and I said when the game me the date. They
Speaker 9: were saying, oh, you were in the end, you were
Speaker 9: a child, and they gave me the dates and when
Speaker 9: I was born, and I was saying, and that could
Speaker 9: be right. That only made me about tourten or fourteen
Speaker 9: and when or he actually ready into it even more
Speaker 9: than there was child soldiers. Yeah, yeah, but in the
Speaker 9: last days of the war, we were running our men. Yeah,
Speaker 9: they were running out of men, they were running ourselves.
Speaker 9: He actually recruited children. So there was children from the
Speaker 9: age of eight years of age.
Speaker 1: Yes, folkstorm older and young boys.
Speaker 9: So yeah, it was so or I don't When I
Speaker 9: spoke with Anti from Guls there Or he actually told
Speaker 9: him that story. And we've don't impaired an interview. We don't,
Speaker 9: and we discussed that, but I think could have you know,
Speaker 9: is after life and this is where or I got
Speaker 9: I went to after life paranormal is is that after life?
Speaker 9: What is the after life? Do we actually go to
Speaker 9: another dimension or those are is the after life we
Speaker 9: travel on in our DNA. So for instance, if three
Speaker 9: hundred years ago, as a long last relative could play
Speaker 9: piano and say through there from the relation the mind
Speaker 9: is born a five years old, so all of a
Speaker 9: sudden we sits that piano and is able to play
Speaker 9: the piano. Is that is that a day and a
Speaker 9: team on back to the DA and I travel and
Speaker 9: that's how you become the martlist? That would?
Speaker 1: I think that's a very good way of putting it.
Speaker 1: I think we live on that kind of thread that continues,
Speaker 1: and it's it's probably a few things. It's experiential like
Speaker 1: safe say, for instance, like a trauma. I mean apparently
Speaker 1: like Holocaust relatives of Holocaust victims, you know, are are
Speaker 1: affected by trauma to some extent even though they weren't there,
Speaker 1: and then just shared experiences as well, shared language, shared attitudes.
Speaker 1: Because the whole idea is I think like life is
Speaker 1: a bit of a batton thing. You pass the battle
Speaker 1: onto the next. Do you use much technology in your investigations?
Speaker 9: Wor aquittment? Is camera? The video recorder, courts E MF
Speaker 9: reader and a voice recorder. That's that's me. Everything fits
Speaker 9: into one little box and half we go. But on
Speaker 9: investigations now we've or it's gone to being to lead Castle,
Speaker 9: Redwood Castle, ross Castle, can or been to spoil oiland
Speaker 9: or or Nilus. One of the unbelievable flight that of
Speaker 9: being to and of the same same now spirit now
Speaker 9: sign of vanity, only a heaviness and sadness, And that
Speaker 9: was Lima Vadi wo house, Limavaddy. I was there and
Speaker 9: probably even today till die, of all the things of
Speaker 9: saying that I can't explain, or noises that I can't explain, whatever,
Speaker 9: this is the one place that law will be waiting.
Speaker 9: I was there. The story of the woe houses, the
Speaker 9: way they separate the families, and when you just go
Speaker 9: in there was the complete sadness that they fail is
Speaker 9: just unbelievable. Because I do a lot of things. The
Speaker 9: day was when I got out a lot tight and
Speaker 9: the first thing out there stand and now the sounds
Speaker 9: stupid for they standing appuntly hand on the walls.
Speaker 1: No, I do that totally. I do that all the time.
Speaker 9: And yeah, and I just closed my eyes and probably
Speaker 9: for maybe two minutes. I tried to block out everything
Speaker 9: and just try to fail fail the vibrations of the building,
Speaker 9: treat the pike in the Howard atmosphere. I tried to
Speaker 9: block out everything else and just fail, try and fail
Speaker 9: what energy that is? And then I'm off then to
Speaker 9: find out, right, Okay, what do people say here? Why
Speaker 9: do they thinks they say? And that's mostly that's where
Speaker 9: they come from. I probably should have done a few
Speaker 9: people tell me, or should have done a parapsychology course,
Speaker 9: which I keep saying, yeah they were they up point
Speaker 9: never get around today own it because people think I'm
Speaker 9: really good at talking to them about teams that have
Speaker 9: happened to them. So yeah, probably parapsychology or really like
Speaker 9: I'm just saying talk and getting that in formation. But
Speaker 9: as far in the the guys and one of the
Speaker 9: people are inside, have you ever seen the gout? And
Speaker 9: they can't believe them, and I was like, now I haven't.
Speaker 9: I've never seen a gout or the spreader, whatever you
Speaker 9: want to call it. Instead of saying things, I've had
Speaker 9: things that I can't explain. But ninety point nine point
Speaker 9: nine point nine of stuff is explainable if you hear
Speaker 9: I was in the puzzle one night and people are saying, oh,
Speaker 9: I can hear the baby. It's like the baby. It's
Speaker 9: just this little whining sound like the baby. So while
Speaker 9: everyone was sitting around the table, there was the science
Speaker 9: sky and I actually invested the gate and in one
Speaker 9: window down and I was listening down one window on
Speaker 9: the window find old wooden windows, obviously, and there was
Speaker 9: a little crack in the glass and the wind was
Speaker 9: holding outside and every now and again where every way
Speaker 9: the wind that hit that window, you just had this.
Speaker 1: It's the wind serre it through the little crack, I know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and sometimes floorboards the same.
Speaker 9: Exactly, and that's what it was. Both that took me
Speaker 9: about half an hour to actually find that down. So
Speaker 9: like that was a complete either don't get everything until
Speaker 9: I actually can't. I have no explanation for it. And
Speaker 9: then yes, well this could be something. And then other
Speaker 9: people said, oh, I thought seeing a ghost one point,
Speaker 9: and this that and the other. But then when I
Speaker 9: think that do we see ghosts, do we see spirits
Speaker 9: or do they see us? Is a parallel the universe
Speaker 9: running along sort and do we step into their universe?
Speaker 9: Just for a split second and back out. And it's
Speaker 9: not actually that we see a ghost, it's that they
Speaker 9: actually see us. Now I think of all this is mad.
Speaker 9: I have to think of all scenarios that when you
Speaker 9: run out of that, you left with something that, well,
Speaker 9: this could be something all morey or on natural, if
Speaker 9: that's why you want.
Speaker 1: To I think there's a variety of explanations. And I
Speaker 1: am different from you in so far as I saw
Speaker 1: one thing that's as a child that stuck with me forever,
Speaker 1: and I am going to hold true to that experience,
Speaker 1: and nobody is going to tell me I saw anything different.
Speaker 1: It was too vivid. So I'm sometimes I feel like
Speaker 1: an impost syndrome when I'm talking to all of you.
Speaker 1: Guys are carrying out investigations regularly. Anthony as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: or Pooka Vogue or Pjkavna and God rest in PJ.
Speaker 1: Doug and that lovely lady as well, up an Emerald
Speaker 1: dial paranormal Jenny or yeah, and who's the guy the
Speaker 1: paranormal resident? Have you heard of him as well?
Speaker 9: I want against Yeah, Now I've never met's head seeing
Speaker 9: phogrades be with Jenny, he's.
Speaker 1: With Jenny, and he's also with Rhonda. He seems to
Speaker 1: be a bit of a ladies man.
Speaker 9: From that.
Speaker 1: How come he's such a hit with a girl's Eugene,
Speaker 1: it's not fair.
Speaker 9: That mostly as a big.
Speaker 1: Camera Yes he's big camera with his with his multiple lenses.
Speaker 1: But I want to get him on because he's done
Speaker 1: some beautiful camera work as well. If you have seen
Speaker 1: his YouTube channel, I think for those of you who
Speaker 1: are listening, it's ParaNorman Resident it's called and I know
Speaker 1: he did a series with with Rhonda as well. I
Speaker 1: think he was called it The American Psychic or whatever.
Speaker 1: But the filming is beautiful. I mean, it's so well
Speaker 1: crafted when I'm on the show. But I also want
Speaker 1: to know how he does what he does because it's
Speaker 1: a it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 9: Eugene, Yeah, it is, yeah, And there's some really really
Speaker 9: good people. And you know what it is that even
Speaker 9: though a lot was I'm sure have met each other,
Speaker 9: have met people from a group that I used to
Speaker 9: go with a part events from up being the North
Speaker 9: with them, Yeah, yes, yeah, it's just different things have happened,
Speaker 9: the people have gone different, and I was in it
Speaker 9: when I started my group there a few years ago.
Speaker 9: There was a few of us and then people got
Speaker 9: married and some nail, some had kids, so was hard
Speaker 9: to get everyone back together again. And then I kind
Speaker 9: of just went. Then it was just myself and Val
Speaker 9: and we had a girl the medium that we used
Speaker 9: to pick up and she'd come up, but then she
Speaker 9: went off. Then hour around pain and people did and
Speaker 9: one kind of a long wolf while I was allowed
Speaker 9: wolf up a couple of weeks ago aboard. Yeah, and
Speaker 9: but yeah, so being everywhere, I've been to a great place,
Speaker 9: a place called Sharon Rectory.
Speaker 1: Bruce Murder there, I think at one stage was the.
Speaker 9: Double that's really yeah, and I've been there too. I
Speaker 9: had the pleasure of being there Toye and we went.
Speaker 9: The fourth time we went, I was unbelievable, and then
Speaker 9: they thought that we've done such a good job they
Speaker 9: asked us to come back again. So we went back
Speaker 9: the following year for All Souls Night and that was
Speaker 9: absolutely brilliant. Yeah, it's brilliant place. It's one of the
Speaker 9: spikiest places I've ever been, and probably the spukiest in rectory.
Speaker 1: What part of the of Ireland is it in this
Speaker 1: in the north.
Speaker 9: It's upen Manor Hamilton and Dunny Love. Yeah, and yeah,
Speaker 9: there's em the ways of there, our sister Victoria and
Speaker 9: a man Lisa. But we were there to give you
Speaker 9: a care when they got there, to give you a
Speaker 9: care first of all, explain different realms, you know, what's
Speaker 9: happened to them and that. But I was unbelievable, and
Speaker 9: he was in the house for about twenty minutes. All
Speaker 9: of a sudden, or just became seasick as the only
Speaker 9: war second nauseous. Yeah, just I wouldn't lead, You wouldn't lead.
Speaker 9: And it was lately from hours of the day and
Speaker 9: when we were there, now we knew nothing about the building.
Speaker 9: It was just pure Look, we got the chance to
Speaker 9: go out there and I was there in the cellar.
Speaker 9: We were doing a calling out setting in the cellar,
Speaker 9: and for some reason, I kept saying my sister was
Speaker 9: there at the time, she was part of the team,
Speaker 9: and I kept saying the whole was touching the wall
Speaker 9: behind me, and I was saying, there's something behind that wall,
Speaker 9: and his sister saying, couldn't they we're under the ground.
Speaker 9: And I said, now there is there's something there, but
Speaker 9: to like someone's behind it. I was only lighter on
Speaker 9: in that evening that one of the people that lived
Speaker 9: in the house wounded the lord. Well wouldn't I wouldn't
Speaker 9: call them lords for you know, one of the gentry,
Speaker 9: we said, and he had an affair made there. I
Speaker 9: tried the TiAl for living gentle control and seeingly and
Speaker 9: the start is the child was buried, killed and very
Speaker 9: pointing the wall. Now that's the version. But yeah, that
Speaker 9: was that was. That was a bright place. And there's
Speaker 9: actually a footage of a ball that was actually files there.
Speaker 9: We were shopping when we knew we were going back
Speaker 9: the second time. We were out shopping and we're down
Speaker 9: on fast. It's now a mighty boy this little ball.
Speaker 9: Because I remember someone on the no he said to me,
Speaker 9: there's be a child on the stairwell. So Ball said, look,
Speaker 9: you know what, we boy this ball and we put
Speaker 9: it on top of the stairwell and we'll see there's
Speaker 9: anything happened. So we set up camera the howler, and
Speaker 9: we would set up the television and we have people
Speaker 9: well I love to deal with sick people and front
Speaker 9: of the television screen and maybe they was we were
Speaker 9: setting up the cameras. We give someone an out book,
Speaker 9: and we tied them. Okay, there's an outbook if you
Speaker 9: say and you write down the toying and what you
Speaker 9: think you saw. So people had love that you and
Speaker 9: oh yeah in the that and if people were killing
Speaker 9: each other to sit in front. So we gave everyone
Speaker 9: and now we say, okay, you team sit there for
Speaker 9: an hour? Would documented point what you call your blah
Speaker 9: blah or whatever. So we had people there and some
Speaker 9: some members of the public were there as well, so
Speaker 9: they were we're all on the big paar or he
Speaker 9: was at the back. And I had to say it,
Speaker 9: and it was a nervous myself there because he was
Speaker 9: saying to people, just whatever you do, don't be just
Speaker 9: to seeing the person on their o. It's just something
Speaker 9: about the building.
Speaker 1: And what if I recall as well, wasn't that you
Speaker 1: were in charge of the investigation. This is Sharon Rectory
Speaker 1: and yeah you you insisted that nobody be alone.
Speaker 9: That's it, that's it. Yeah, that's it. I know. He
Speaker 9: said that there's been no one to be on their own,
Speaker 9: that someone has to be with them, even if someone
Speaker 9: was going the toilet, of saying someone go with so
Speaker 9: we obviously done the ethical thing. Was, and he gales
Speaker 9: gown the toilet wanted then the female members of Tame
Speaker 9: would go and wait it out the toile for him.
Speaker 9: Whatever they did. Yeah that. So we set the ball
Speaker 9: up on the top of the styles. We brought people
Speaker 9: trail and we asked people can get tap the bards
Speaker 9: around the wall the ball and nothing. Nothing was happening.
Speaker 9: The ball was dead stale because I actually set it
Speaker 9: into a grave in the flowerboards himself and I was tappening.
Speaker 9: I was, and so I was. We got people today
Speaker 9: with members of the public just outside the people because
Speaker 9: one guy said he watched the bar for so explained
Speaker 9: to him and it's just tap around the dead seats
Speaker 9: of mail. But they didn't. But just in front of
Speaker 9: that and about the toad stepped down there was a
Speaker 9: little budd ahead, so that was it. The camera's there,
Speaker 9: everyone's watching the screens and about forty minutes into the
Speaker 9: investigation and the balls wabbling slowly and with that bounced
Speaker 9: down the stare. But it didn't go over the bud ahead.
Speaker 9: It actually went around it. Now because it went around
Speaker 9: out today that we say it was going down the
Speaker 9: left wall. So what should have happened is with the
Speaker 9: ball there should have actually went across the stires, that's
Speaker 9: what really should have happened, but it didn't have actually
Speaker 9: went rend to go thehead back, cross to the wall
Speaker 9: and straight down the stairs behind it. An intelligent Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm interested that your your wife and yourself are part
Speaker 1: of the team because females have a different energy. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: a different person and often are wiser than us guys.
Speaker 9: I think I think women are definitely always of their
Speaker 9: men more intuition. Yeah, that's it exactly. Yeah, now we
Speaker 9: will would be more I suppose pure for that spirituol.
Speaker 9: But I saw she'd be really really spiritual ourselves. Yeah,
Speaker 9: she's I's hard to explain it and what she's like,
Speaker 9: but she's just she can just failed teams. She now
Speaker 9: was like we were in the building, she could really
Speaker 9: tell you what's in the next room, what we're going
Speaker 9: to encounter, just that kind of feeling. And she's she's
Speaker 9: she's been involved in a couple of sciences then with
Speaker 9: other media, but she's not a media now weight mediums
Speaker 9: and yeah, she's really good. I don't know, different type
Speaker 9: and stuff to me, but that's probably what I say
Speaker 9: good or we are together and has.
Speaker 1: Heard anything that stands out.
Speaker 9: She now she'd be the science. Thing, she'd be the
Speaker 9: science made. We're not going to tell people are saying
Speaker 9: someone ever haven't and now she'd be the science. It's
Speaker 9: the same things and fell things that she can't explain
Speaker 9: or you know, stuff like that. But she's now she's
Speaker 9: just different. I don't know, it's hard to explain. You'd
Speaker 9: have to say their own wherever she she just I
Speaker 9: don't help to explain her. That's that's the honest thing.
Speaker 9: Or just it's hard to explain what she does actually
Speaker 9: have to say her. Yeah, she's just a really spiritual then. Yeah.
Speaker 9: The thing about it unfort me is and I don't know,
Speaker 9: it's it's probably it's not a good thing. Is she's
Speaker 9: annoy idealist unforced me. She thinks, you know everything, everyone
Speaker 9: should be peace in the world, nobody should be hungry,
Speaker 9: and you should should be friends and get on. While
Speaker 9: I'm the outside, it'd be well, that's never gonna happen.
Speaker 9: That's why she's an idealist.
Speaker 1: It's all you're right, it's very good to be Pollyanna
Speaker 1: and uh and to see the good and everything and
Speaker 1: never see the bad in anybody, But listen, it's the
Speaker 1: world isn't fair, and no, not everybody is a good person.
Speaker 1: Sure there might be a background there that leads them
Speaker 1: to behave like that. It's all lovely, but if they're
Speaker 1: killing or raping or whatever, the head has gone on
Speaker 1: or manipulating people, you know, I'd love to see the
Speaker 1: good and and I'd love to make an excuse that
Speaker 1: it's the background. Some people are just badasses and they'll
Speaker 1: take you for all you can get. And by the way,
Speaker 1: they pray on the idealistic type mindset, you know, and you,
Speaker 1: as you know, you need to as a man, you
Speaker 1: need to in search r someself somewhere in the middle
Speaker 1: and say, listen, I love your idealism. I really appreciate
Speaker 1: it a little bit, you know, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say it to their face, but a little bit naive.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit naive, but God help anyone who
Speaker 1: tries to take advantage of it. Yeah, because the meek
Speaker 1: shalin hurt the earth, I would hope, you know, but
Speaker 1: that's just a little brand. I know what you're saying though,
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a fact.
Speaker 9: But even with the paranormal or supernatural still I still
Speaker 9: think of say God, what do people think of God?
Speaker 9: But you know I would actually probably say I'm in
Speaker 9: a pagan are good?
Speaker 1: I like patents? You know your right?
Speaker 9: The most now, no val would be thought would be
Speaker 9: the science we always tigan because I wouldn't believe in it.
Speaker 9: In and look or not knocking religions or whatever. If
Speaker 9: if Catholic, whatever your Catholic, Protestants, whatever, Jewish, if your
Speaker 9: religion gives you that's absolutely fantastic, like all you wish,
Speaker 9: sure you'd have that kind of ating. But my vess
Speaker 9: on it is and is is the Soone a loo
Speaker 9: the ancient Egypt and everything to do being t waged
Speaker 9: three times? But is the the faa whack and at
Speaker 9: the soon? And I'm just wondering, is the soon God?
Speaker 9: Because so the Soone can give life, it can take life,
Speaker 9: it can destroy safe tones for the same the desert.
Speaker 9: So that is the n the real God. And then
Speaker 9: you're a vest And I actually had the Howard Witnesses
Speaker 9: a few years ago, you know, they knocking around the dollars,
Speaker 9: they talked and I actually set outside with them on
Speaker 9: the wall and had a really good conversation that I
Speaker 9: was actually, you know, they were signed to the game
Speaker 9: with that good god liflet and whatever that's And I said,
Speaker 9: I'm not a believer. And they actually asked why are
Speaker 9: not believed? So I said to them, well we fourting is.
Speaker 9: I don't don't believe there's an all god won. Maybe
Speaker 9: we're all all ed energy that when we do, we
Speaker 9: become a collective by maybe.
Speaker 1: It's reckoned that everybody is connected.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's it. Maybe we'd just come home big life force.
Speaker 9: But I said to him that when it came to Jesus,
Speaker 9: I said, Jesus probably was a real person. And I said,
Speaker 9: and what you could other possibly bame was the forced
Speaker 9: path and to probably have empathy for people, you know,
Speaker 9: say a sick man in the street, help them a begart,
Speaker 9: give them failed somebody sick to him, help them, bring
Speaker 9: them back to life. Maybe something like that. And that's
Speaker 9: what I said to them. The Lazarus thing, I said,
Speaker 9: maybe he was someone that was really really ill, the
Speaker 9: goyd Jesus came along, helped them, maybe gave him medicine
Speaker 9: that you know, potions or whatever they made, and he
Speaker 9: actually came back from to bring to death. So everyone thought,
Speaker 9: oh my god, he's brought and a lawyer, and maybe
Speaker 9: he was just one of them people that was he
Speaker 9: was just had empathetic to the world, and he got followers,
Speaker 9: and I went on and on, and then I said
Speaker 9: to them and then I said, and now this sound
Speaker 9: was probably a terrible thing to say. I said, but
Speaker 9: when he was nailed to the cross, I said, maybe
Speaker 9: in his last breaths and he actually thought that was
Speaker 9: a god. He was actually saying, you know, when he said, boyfather,
Speaker 9: have they are forsaking me? I said, maybe at his
Speaker 9: last team on that cross, he was actually thinking someone
Speaker 9: is going to come and say and nobody ever did.
Speaker 1: Mhm.
Speaker 9: You know. So there's a lot of people talk about
Speaker 9: the paranormal, super and actual, but for me, it's you
Speaker 9: can trowl a legion in their history.
Speaker 10: Everything is all in there, well paranormal actually, you know,
Speaker 10: we're all none of us can choose, you know, what
Speaker 10: faith were indoctrinated into a born born.
Speaker 1: I often default to Christendom, and because i'm it's it's
Speaker 1: broadly in line with the whole ethos of good and evil.
Speaker 1: And do wantto others that I think if.
Speaker 9: You don't still harm than anyone and you're trying to
Speaker 9: live a good life.
Speaker 1: Jesus without the middleman. Don't give me the mausoleum palace. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not the Christ I'm aware of who who had
Speaker 1: nothing but time for the poor. Don't give me all
Speaker 1: this ornate paintings, galleries in Rome. You know, that's not
Speaker 1: what it's It was ever about it. It was never
Speaker 1: about being a business. Have you any opinions, Eugene on
Speaker 1: ancient Irish sites? Have you gone to some of the
Speaker 1: let's say, not conventional type buildings, but some of the
Speaker 1: old I don't know, stone circles or places like New Grange,
Speaker 1: any investigations.
Speaker 9: I didn't do any investigation or that it was in
Speaker 9: New Brains and the society delve for the time that
Speaker 9: the the could actually build a dwelling on the salts
Speaker 9: to day, that the stone would actually show in that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know. That's what I want to call it,
Speaker 1: twenty first December every year.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and if modern man trying to do that today
Speaker 9: did have to use computers and all sorts of gadgets
Speaker 9: just to do with that, you know. So I don't
Speaker 9: know whether all the them kind of buildings were gone
Speaker 9: back to the time when an ancient race that was well,
Speaker 9: not any more intelligent than those, but the last civilizations
Speaker 9: I think over time. And let's see where. I'll tell
Speaker 9: you where there is a great place. I suppose it's not.
Speaker 9: I don't know whether it's open ground the lock. Yeah.
Speaker 1: St.
Speaker 9: Kevin snow there exactly. Yeah, I was just gonna side that.
Speaker 9: I mean, they're up there, it's a fab just sit
Speaker 9: down and have something to eat, and it's just it's
Speaker 9: kind of sitting there. There's just a peece there of
Speaker 9: something I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the opposite of the opposite of Lima Vaddier on
Speaker 1: a big You've got this beautiful, peaceful, tranquil atmosphere of
Speaker 1: contemplation and of being being. You get your headspace. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know what you meant about Lima vaddy the workhouse,
Speaker 1: because I was in a place in Barbados way back
Speaker 1: and it was an old colony house. It had been
Speaker 1: used for slavery. And even though it was all converted
Speaker 1: now and it was five star and we're eating underneath
Speaker 1: the stars, actually at night I could feel the oppression
Speaker 1: in the place, just like identified with that when you
Speaker 1: said Limavadi. It was the misery and the hopelessness, and
Speaker 1: it didn't matter what lobter. I was eating at that
Speaker 1: table underneath the stars, So I know what that feels like.
Speaker 1: And beauty of up there in the monastery. What was
Speaker 1: it Kevin's it's the piece acceptance. You know, you sit
Speaker 1: there and you are as one. It is an amazing place.
Speaker 9: And if you're looking at the sand, looking at it. Yeah,
Speaker 9: now I think it's just I don't know, daughter is
Speaker 9: I'm just going away again. Now I'll just going back
Speaker 9: to the god thing. But we got actually doesn't believe
Speaker 9: in God, sees actually believe when we do it. That's it.
Speaker 9: Someone knocks off the way and that's the end. Yeah,
Speaker 9: lots of papers, paper, but I don't think that's right.
Speaker 9: I don't think we live for hopefully maybe ninety years.
Speaker 9: If you're lucky and you have children, you have burgers, sisters,
Speaker 9: all people in your life that you love and I
Speaker 9: love you, and then someone just tones off the light
Speaker 9: and that's it. The fields to accept that, I have to.
Speaker 1: Say, well, it mightn't be so bad. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the way to you. I you know, when I was
Speaker 1: under the surgeon's knife a few years back, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know where we go, But we're gone, you know.
Speaker 1: I was gone for eight nine hours. I was gone,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know where it was. It didn't
Speaker 1: feel particularly bad. I just was no more.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 1: I thought I was dead for a while, but a
Speaker 1: sister of mine reminded me that I was on one
Speaker 1: of these ventilator type things, so I was being kept
Speaker 1: alive while they operated. But I remember thinking, well, what
Speaker 1: I won't know, won't kill me kind of thing. I
Speaker 1: just I've done. We go, you know, so I have
Speaker 1: no idea what it's all about. We can speculate till
Speaker 1: the cows come home. I had experienced one thing I
Speaker 1: did see, and I've seen videos similar. When my mother
Speaker 1: was passing up in Saint James's hospital, myself and my
Speaker 1: sister and we were the two youngest, had some time
Speaker 1: with her, and I think it might have been twenty
Speaker 1: four hours before she died, and she was looking up
Speaker 1: above the you know, at the ceiling of the hospital bedroom,
Speaker 1: and she was talking and she was going, she actually went,
Speaker 1: can you see it? Isn't it beautiful? It's beautiful? And
Speaker 1: then she said will you come with me? And you
Speaker 1: could see her looking up but say, you know, like
Speaker 1: you see these old pictures of say, adoration of the
Speaker 1: Blessed Virgin or whatever people are, their eyes are focused.
Speaker 1: So I did see that. Now, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the explanation for is that is, you know, does the
Speaker 1: body kick in certain chemicals to you know? Is it
Speaker 1: actually maybe the drugs that she would have been on,
Speaker 1: as they which they which they employed these days to
Speaker 1: help you along the way. But I mean, she was
Speaker 1: very at peace, and she seemed to be focusing, and
Speaker 1: she you know, she look at us every so often,
Speaker 1: and she looked back at it. Do you not see it?
Speaker 1: Isn't it beauty? Aren't they lovely? Are you coming with it?
Speaker 9: That seems to be a strange phenomenon because I've heard
Speaker 9: that low point from all different people, well, talk of
Speaker 9: their family members and even the wife's grandmother. When she
Speaker 9: was doing, and she was in Jame the fospel as well.
Speaker 9: When she was doing, she kept saying, He kept saying,
Speaker 9: is the Maazi there? But that would have been like
Speaker 9: an owl would fire, what she called it, the Maasie
Speaker 9: the Mazie star. And when she was getting out of
Speaker 9: the bed looking for her and his friend when he
Speaker 9: was doing all he spoke about portray of four days
Speaker 9: before doing it was his mother. Yes, that's all he
Speaker 9: spoke about his mother, his mother. And he always was
Speaker 9: saying that when he was doing, he knew he was doing.
Speaker 9: He was saying, I helped me mad come from No,
Speaker 9: of course, you know, kind in his full mind at
Speaker 9: that start.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and it's well, it's well documented on battlefields like
Speaker 1: World War one, man, yeah two, many as the soldier
Speaker 1: died calling for their mother. They could be the toughest
Speaker 1: mothers themselves, but when it came to them actually being
Speaker 1: in being, you know, torn apart or wounded her on
Speaker 1: the point of death, they'd be screaming for their mum.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe mothers, maybe mother. There's something in God
Speaker 1: and mother. You know, we are the father all the time,
Speaker 1: but you know the mother is the nurturer and the
Speaker 1: one who creates us in the first place. So who knows?
Speaker 1: Have you any opinion on on weedia boards?
Speaker 9: Well, I just have our own opinion. I have one
Speaker 9: myself for I'm willing to give it to the annually
Speaker 9: if they listening, If you want all power I bought
Speaker 9: now there is people that loved them. I actually bought
Speaker 9: one myself, and it's actually more of an ornamental piece.
Speaker 9: That's what you want.
Speaker 10: It is lovely.
Speaker 9: It's a lovely of broad and investigations and put it
Speaker 9: out on the table and how people look and say,
Speaker 9: oh that's fabulous though, and it's not your regular weed board.
Speaker 9: But in my opinion, anytime I've ever been on on
Speaker 9: one with anybody, I don't don't now because I will
Speaker 9: be honest, I actually in my opinion it's a massive
Speaker 9: Stadia team. Yes, and what could fit well, I don't know.
Speaker 9: I'm not saying that they don't work. This is just
Speaker 9: my opinion on it is. What made me think it's
Speaker 9: a hysteria team is I was in lead Castle one
Speaker 9: night and when we were doing the investigation to have
Speaker 9: public people, so we're doing glass walk you know the
Speaker 9: yes now with the glass and all different things, scions
Speaker 9: and one other corner whatever. Well, one of us wanted
Speaker 9: the team would be with the people. So the noise
Speaker 9: that we had the weeds the board, it purned out.
Speaker 9: It was my night to be on the weeds board.
Speaker 9: So I sat there and the four girls got on
Speaker 9: the wage of board and they were saying, well what
Speaker 9: do we do? Is explaining to them, you know, ask
Speaker 9: the questions. I'll keep the hand on the planchet. The
Speaker 9: singers or whatever ask whatever questions they were had. So
Speaker 9: I was sitting there watching them and one of the
Speaker 9: girls asked the question. I don't remember what the question was,
Speaker 9: but next of all, the plan to started movement and
Speaker 9: one of the guests says, oh my god, it's Milen
Speaker 9: m hm. And the one said to me, I joining us,
Speaker 9: and I said, now, it's not my pain. And on
Speaker 9: one side to him, it doesn't work, just because I
Speaker 9: now other teams that have used them and it wokes
Speaker 9: for them. But for me, it's just not my team.
Speaker 9: And that's what I said, It's just not my thing.
Speaker 9: And I'm not because one of the girl said, I
Speaker 9: afraid it was, and I said, no, no, it's just
Speaker 9: not my thing. And she so anyway, she was the
Speaker 9: I'm not saying. She was nail there. I was oving,
Speaker 9: and she said, oh my god, it's ni Oven. So
Speaker 9: another guy laughed another question and then moved again, and
Speaker 9: she said, oh, this definitely works. So all of a
Speaker 9: suddenly they were all lasting questions and I was going everywhere.
Speaker 9: But in my mind, this is my opinion on it,
Speaker 9: and I'm probably completely on and that's fine because that's
Speaker 9: just my opinion and somebody else's opinion is theirs, and
Speaker 9: we now have to agree. And that's that's what it's
Speaker 9: all about, because as I do so other members of
Speaker 9: other teams that much. We're all looking to get to
Speaker 9: the sign points, but we're just using different paths to
Speaker 9: get there. And so what I thought think is that
Speaker 9: one person subliminally starts moving it, and because it's moving,
Speaker 9: the next person thinks, oh my god, it isn't and
Speaker 9: they're actually it. Yeah. So that's how when they're all
Speaker 9: laughing different questions, they're all getting the answers that I'm
Speaker 9: looking for. And I just think it's the fact that
Speaker 9: none of them now that that they want to. The
Speaker 9: four gals are sitting there, but the actually didn't real
Speaker 9: well I'm not saying I can't say that, but in
Speaker 9: my opinion, I just think that it's moving and they
Speaker 9: actually don't know that they own it themselves. That's my
Speaker 9: opinion a thing, and it's.
Speaker 1: Not uncommon either, by the way. That's us fact for you.
Speaker 1: Do you know where the name Wija comes from?
Speaker 9: We did, But now it was a board game invented
Speaker 9: in eighty something for it. But it's a gem and
Speaker 9: yeah it is.
Speaker 1: You know what it is. I'll tell you what it is.
Speaker 1: It's we is the French for yes, and yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the German. Yes.
Speaker 10: There you go.
Speaker 1: You learn every day nobody goes away from this show.
Speaker 9: Yes, but it's yes, and that's what my belief and
Speaker 9: it's about. Then as I say, that doesn't mean it
Speaker 9: doesn't more. It's just for me. That's that's my opinion.
Speaker 9: And that's more.
Speaker 1: Okay, can I ask your opinion? I ask your opinion
Speaker 1: on one last thing.
Speaker 10: So here we are.
Speaker 1: We're in scary era.
Speaker 10: I e.
Speaker 1: We're in Ireland, all right. So do you think Ireland's past,
Speaker 1: say the colonization, the famine conflict, contributes to the reputation
Speaker 1: as a really haunted land.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it does. Yeah, I think it does.
Speaker 1: It's a mix, isn't it.
Speaker 9: Yeah? Yeah, I definitely think of you know, things that
Speaker 9: happened there with the energy of the people inside the famine,
Speaker 9: for the instance, like obviously the amount of sorrow, the
Speaker 9: amount of lawyers, last, the energy that would have been
Speaker 9: in them body, it's obviously going to be long last
Speaker 9: and the energy goes into the ground, goes into the
Speaker 9: walls whatever. It's like saying that we go back to
Speaker 9: a haunted castle navy somewhere sign Malahoyde Castle for the instance.
Speaker 9: People are saying saying they're saying the spirits there. And
Speaker 9: you remember one person saying, oh, I thought saw gals there,
Speaker 9: but I only say in the top half of the body.
Speaker 9: I didn't see the legs or anything like that. But
Speaker 9: is it because that when that spirit existed? Maybe the
Speaker 9: because he said what was there? And I was like
Speaker 9: the raw bushes but you could see trail of them,
Speaker 9: but I couldn't say any legs, And maybe in that
Speaker 9: point there was now heads there.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, in the case of ala Hyde, I think there's
Speaker 1: a little dwarf type ghost there. I've heard of that
Speaker 1: now Okaka before as well, but I'm not sure about that.
Speaker 1: But I think there was a little serving boy or
Speaker 1: some serving boy that was a little dwarf for something.
Speaker 1: They popped a little head popped up every so often.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was there last year for Guran Duran.
Speaker 1: You know my band The Last God. I love Gianne Duran.
Speaker 1: Don't start go off from one of my influenced tangents again.
Speaker 1: And Simon me and Simon, I tell you that night
Speaker 1: we were walking you know that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, they said it was but I peeked them
Speaker 9: up back to it was parked out on the grass
Speaker 9: and the Ryan and I could actually see the stays
Speaker 9: on the screen. So we've got probably the last fift
Speaker 9: them in a three, but I was on the screen.
Speaker 1: It just brings me back, Eugene Dorian from go on,
Speaker 1: tell us the name of your organization, after an Armor,
Speaker 1: after life, paranormal, It's been it's been a pleasure to
Speaker 1: meet you.
Speaker 9: And so kind. I just give it. One mart before
Speaker 9: the Redwood Castle and we were there and something similar
Speaker 9: happened in Leed Castle and another night we were there,
Speaker 9: We're all standing, I want to open the chapel. They
Speaker 9: just happened and yeah we had a second and people
Speaker 9: were saying, OK, say something tugging at me this that
Speaker 9: Europe right, and something tugged off my hat wherever it
Speaker 9: would be, So it was funny, yeah whatever, And then
Speaker 9: we were in a Redwood Castle and it was something
Speaker 9: similar right both When I was in Wexford there in October,
Speaker 9: I went on a back walk and I'll just say
Speaker 9: what was like that? But they had gadgets there and
Speaker 9: they could pick up the bats their signals, and by
Speaker 9: the signal they could tell Yeah, but the frequency and
Speaker 9: all they could tell what type the battle was. I'm
Speaker 9: going to get a back tracker for that. Yeah, they
Speaker 9: were said maybe in lead Castle and in Redwood Castle
Speaker 9: would have been bats in the dark. But because they
Speaker 9: have a short video and we have a set up
Speaker 9: and the camera is pointing to the fire soid of
Speaker 9: the chapel and you have to really really there that
Speaker 9: you can see a bat in the distance. Gone boy.
Speaker 9: But next of all, the flow is up the front
Speaker 9: of the camera. I wonder would it be bas started
Speaker 9: flowing around and i' tipping half people to people, I said, oh,
Speaker 9: something's to to me there or something, and the way
Speaker 9: they'd be thinking it's a go out where the actually
Speaker 9: it's probably just the bats. So I'm going to buy
Speaker 9: a frequency de type down now on yourself. I'm gonna
Speaker 9: definitely get one of them, because that was brilliant because
Speaker 9: it tells you exactly when the bat is coming. Nice,
Speaker 9: so you can hear the bat, you know, whatever they
Speaker 9: say on.
Speaker 1: Then I saw a lady who looks after bats on
Speaker 1: some documentary and apparently there you know, when you get
Speaker 1: to know them. And they were all by the way
Speaker 1: when she was talking. They were all hanging upside down
Speaker 1: in this room. Yeah, but they all have different personalities,
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, like a dog or something, So they
Speaker 1: have different personalities.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know, I didn't know any of that tale.
Speaker 9: That was a cowber. I went when the are we
Speaker 9: just said, you know what we got on this bat walk.
Speaker 9: It was just something to do. We went on and
Speaker 9: the bath what would you call him? Conservation people, the
Speaker 9: guive us the bat I can't actually think of the
Speaker 9: exact name of them. At the mountain, I was doing
Speaker 9: pigs up the frequency and the guide to us, and
Speaker 9: as as the sound was getting near, they say, we
Speaker 9: put a part on them. When you put the cart
Speaker 9: the bat b beside you where if you were just walking,
Speaker 9: you wouldn't say it because you weren't expecting it. Where
Speaker 9: the tracker was bringing the batty and you could tell
Speaker 9: exactly what that and the other information I got that No,
Speaker 9: he was every night in the summer by eat two
Speaker 9: thousands a night, So there you go.
Speaker 1: That is I'm sorry, but you've just trumped my weed
Speaker 1: aboard revelation to you to the origin of the name
Speaker 1: you've you've given us much better one. What does it again? Heat?
Speaker 1: Too many midgets?
Speaker 9: Two thousand midges?
Speaker 1: An who's counting? Though? All right, I'm not happy notes.
Speaker 1: I think we're going to be that crazy. So yeah,
Speaker 1: where where can people find find your Eugene Duran?
Speaker 9: Just Facebook after paranormal Facebook and post in the future.
Speaker 9: Please God, I'll go well on you as the ghost there.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I'll joined the team. So I hope he's
Speaker 9: from the end of February. You will be getting involved
Speaker 9: in whatever the well, if.
Speaker 1: I know Anthony, if I know Anthony, he'll have some
Speaker 1: crazy initiation germonies. Now, yeah, he might have to wear
Speaker 1: his pants and and go around the church three times. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's paranormal pans.
Speaker 9: We maybe just need.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Listen, you'll cancel each other out
Speaker 1: because he's well able to yap himself, right, you take
Speaker 1: care of yourself, all right, all right, buddy, yes, eugen Okay, bye,
Speaker 1: not paranormal. Mark Manning is real. Now that's a scary sort. Oh,
Speaker 1: I can assure you, deep voiced man, I am very real,
Speaker 1: and indeed it's good to have a little chat with
Speaker 1: you here before we wind up Things on Scary Era,
Speaker 1: episode number twenty three. Hope you enjoyed it. I certainly did.
Speaker 1: Isn't Eugene during Such a great guy, such a dub
Speaker 1: Yeah sort of the year, you know. Speaking of which,
Speaker 1: we need to thank some people our readers, the lovely, loyal,
Speaker 1: vivacious Sarah Campbell. She's a Northern Ireland broadcaster and voiceover
Speaker 1: artist as well as an event host, and she is
Speaker 1: extremely loyal to this podcast and her vocal talent is
Speaker 1: always appreciated. You hear her on the random, Anonymous, strange
Speaker 1: but true section as you do. My old friend David McGlynn.
Speaker 1: David has reinvented himself some years back as a restorer
Speaker 1: of antique furniture. He is hugely erudite about the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I never knew it. I just knew him as a
Speaker 1: yuppie and a very funny guy. But no, no, I
Speaker 1: mean this. If you ever saw what was that if
Speaker 1: on this side of the pond, you ever saw that
Speaker 1: old TV show Love Joy, remember the antiques guy, That's
Speaker 1: very much who David is these days. He just has
Speaker 1: a passion for it. It's amazing. So anyway, thanks very
Speaker 1: much to our readers. I mentioned episode twenty three. Let
Speaker 1: me inform you that I've planned to take Scary Era
Speaker 1: up to the top of the Ferris Wheel at fifty episodes.
Speaker 1: So I don't know when that's gonna be. If the
Speaker 1: Lord spares me, in maybe two years time or something,
Speaker 1: we'll hit episode fifty. We began matters in October twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four with episode one of Scary Era, and if
Speaker 1: it goes on beyond fifty episodes, it'll be because of you, guys.
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Speaker 1: If I don't hear from you, I can't really build
Speaker 1: a show. It's as simple as that. That said when
Speaker 1: I began the show in October twenty twenty four, out
Speaker 1: of the woodwork, sorry about the pun, David. Out of
Speaker 1: the woodwork. I got so many of you great paranormal guys,
Speaker 1: the pjs, of course, and one of who sadly we
Speaker 1: lost to three pjs, Pjkavna, who is a total She
Speaker 1: does not he doesn't really know about the paranormal over
Speaker 1: on the West of Ireland, and of course down south
Speaker 1: you've got the PJ in Pukovogue paranormal as well. And
Speaker 1: of course lovely Jenny joins us from Emerald Dial speaking
Speaker 1: of ladies. Actually we have a guest on the next show.
Speaker 1: Her name is Carmel Conway. She's a psychic medium based
Speaker 1: out of Chum in Galway, and she is, as we
Speaker 1: say in Ireland, great crack. But she's scaringly accurate as
Speaker 1: well in some of her observations and predictions. And you
Speaker 1: know when you're talking to his psychic medium and they
Speaker 1: start getting a bit too close to the bone and
Speaker 1: you're going, no, I don't need to know about that,
Speaker 1: and neither do you. That's what you're saying in your head.
Speaker 1: You know, she is really good. So I recorded her
Speaker 1: over a two hour period in January, and I just
Speaker 1: kept delaying on getting the editing done because it was
Speaker 1: a long chat. Editing is when you're tidy it all up,
Speaker 1: you know, not only was it good in its organic state,
Speaker 1: but I just had to get rid of my ums
Speaker 1: and ah's and you know, I go off on tangents
Speaker 1: as well. It's just something else I did. About to
Speaker 1: do one now because I want to talk to you
Speaker 1: about Marvin the cat. We've had him since two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine for a variety of reasons. He's also known
Speaker 1: as Charlie and poor El. Marvin is in the twilight
Speaker 1: of his years now as I speak to you on
Speaker 1: the East coast of Ireland, South County, Dublin. I'm about
Speaker 1: to take off into the clouds tomorrow for the sunny
Speaker 1: climes in Malta, for some sea sand and mind your
Speaker 1: own business and wine. We're going to be thirty years
Speaker 1: married in May, so we decided to take the girls
Speaker 1: and just have a you know, just have a blowout
Speaker 1: in the med Why am I telling you that, Well,
Speaker 1: because Marvin's going to be well. He does have a
Speaker 1: little partner cat, but he's getting old and he pines,
Speaker 1: you know, I know, he kind of really we wrecked
Speaker 1: his head when we went to New York on a
Speaker 1: couple of vocasions. You know, when we came back, he
Speaker 1: wasn't quite the same. He's getting needy, you know that way,
Speaker 1: and he yowls into space.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 1: I've seen him walking around and not trying to be
Speaker 1: glib about it, but it's like looks like a kind
Speaker 1: of cat Zeimer's thing going on, just walking and plodding around,
Speaker 1: going aw. He's got a variety of intonations. By the way,
Speaker 1: Marvin is a talking cat. He will actually respond to
Speaker 1: you when when you say something, and he's always been
Speaker 1: like that. And I'm being more light and airy about it,
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you something, folks. If we lose him,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's far off he will be,
Speaker 1: it'll be a big loss. He'll be missed. He's been
Speaker 1: a unique member of the family. I've never felt like
Speaker 1: any other pet like this guy, because it's like he's
Speaker 1: been here before. It's almost like he's human. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say too much about it, but hopefully we've
Speaker 1: got a few more miaws left out of them. But
Speaker 1: you know they put out back legs as well, you know,
Speaker 1: when they go a bit wockety. There was a young
Speaker 1: buck on the scene as well, which didn't seem to help.
Speaker 1: We call him Big Tam, Big Town, the Big Tomcat
Speaker 1: apparently Scottish for Thomas Tam And I don't know why
Speaker 1: I gave him such a moniker. It's just seems to
Speaker 1: have a big Scottish looking ahead on him, so I
Speaker 1: dow it. But but they became friends. I think they
Speaker 1: had a scrap and they buried the hatchet, probably respectively
Speaker 1: in each other's heads, but they seem to have worked
Speaker 1: it out. You know, I even think Big Tam made
Speaker 1: it into our conservatory recently and they were all hanging out,
Speaker 1: the three cats, the little cat which is Abby, Tabby Marvin,
Speaker 1: and you know Big Tam had come over and he
Speaker 1: was being accepted. Really weird cats. Are you board listening
Speaker 1: to that? Well, don't be so. Yeah, from me, Mark
Speaker 1: Manning on Scary Era, Take care because I care