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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of November eleventh,

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<v Speaker 2>we are discussing the second episode of the new season

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<v Speaker 2>of Shrinking.

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<v Speaker 3>It is called I.

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<v Speaker 2>Love Pain, which funds it Gone, which turns out to

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<v Speaker 2>be a coping strategy that Paul gives Sean, which he

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<v Speaker 2>needs to use because he's afraid of Liz. He basically

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<v Speaker 2>it is the may rely just a little bit the

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<v Speaker 2>main reason for that. So so yeah, that's that's the title. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's obviously plenty more going on in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>For pretty lots, there's lots of pain.

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<v Speaker 2>Gabby's in pain because she, you know, can't be with

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy anymore because she caught feelings, as she says, and

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<v Speaker 2>she feels like he took advantage of that, and they

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<v Speaker 2>have what's really kind of an alarmingly physical fight over it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was kind of like, oh, what's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was a little Yeah, well, she has

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<v Speaker 1>to see his underwear, yeah, or the uh, the sex

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<v Speaker 1>that underwear. It would be that he had plans, yes, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So and even you know, his friend Brian's mad because

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<v Speaker 2>he finds out about this whole thing, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>how could he not tell? How could Jimmy not tell me?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm supposed to be his best friend. Everyone else seems

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<v Speaker 2>to know.

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<v Speaker 3>That this is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Pay attention you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's busy being in Newlywood. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have an apparently brilliant solution for the problem

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<v Speaker 1>of Connor mooning over Alice, right, which is summer summer summer?

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<v Speaker 1>Who says, who is that delicious sad boy? I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>him a growth moment so and you know, but Alice

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<v Speaker 1>introduces them and Connor just flips right over. Yeap would

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<v Speaker 1>appear to be while Liz and Derek wonder if they

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<v Speaker 1>can pay her to have sex.

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<v Speaker 2>Person, I don't know, yeah, they may not.

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<v Speaker 1>Need to, yes, yeah, yeah incentive. But one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed of interest is that Ted McGinley is now

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<v Speaker 1>in the opening credits who plays Derek. He was not

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<v Speaker 1>in season one, so we will be seeing if he

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<v Speaker 1>works as well as a steady presence as he did

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<v Speaker 1>as periodic seasoning, right, I think so? I think that

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<v Speaker 1>character is kind of delightful and such a nice counterpoint

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<v Speaker 1>to Liz.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but who needs a counterpoint?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, very much? So, oh well, so happy to see him.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was very funny spying on Jimmy just all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Right, These people are kind of dangerously up

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<v Speaker 1>in one another's business. They are not you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>can Gabby last time last week, but this week it's

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<v Speaker 1>Derek and Jimmy. Right, but how can you resist? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, and we can. We can certainly relate

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, Sean being afraid of disappointing his his

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<v Speaker 2>mother figure Liz. You know, it's not just that she

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<v Speaker 2>funded his his and she works with him on the

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<v Speaker 2>on the food truck, and Derek gave a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the money for it. But you know, she definitely has

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<v Speaker 2>a maternal role to him and to Alice, and so

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<v Speaker 2>he needs he needs a real pep talk from Paul

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<v Speaker 2>the Harrison Ford character, to to confront Liz about how

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<v Speaker 2>he does not want to be, uh do an interview

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<v Speaker 2>with a food blogger.

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<v Speaker 1>Right because the food blogger wants to talk about him

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<v Speaker 1>being a vet and he is avoiding.

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<v Speaker 2>That, right, which I kind of thought, you know, last

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<v Speaker 2>week it was all about how you have to confront

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<v Speaker 2>these things, you can't shrink away from them, and this

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<v Speaker 2>week the problem was avoiding the confrontation with Liz, not

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<v Speaker 2>not avoiding confronting your past. So I did think that

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<v Speaker 2>Paul was going to tell him, you have to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to this, But.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, yeah, I'm going to try that that little

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<v Speaker 1>visualization thing that you mentioned next time. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>difficult thing to confront and see if it works. See

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<v Speaker 1>if TV psychologist Tarys and Port really out what it takes.

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<v Speaker 1>He certainly is not doing super great managing his own

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<v Speaker 1>life at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>So right, Yeah, although By the end of the episode,

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<v Speaker 2>he has decided it's okay for him to be friendly

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<v Speaker 2>with his former patient, does which I know that guy

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<v Speaker 2>is from Cougartown and Scrubs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah was in Cougartown, wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He's definitely Scrubs.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a Bill Lawrence guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in the Bill Lawrence Repertory Company. But it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like that character is just an excuse to have Neil

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<v Speaker 1>Flynn on. But that's fine. I like him any excuse.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, so you could use a friend, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the season long plot about what Summer has

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<v Speaker 1>now called double D the drunk driver who killed Alice's mother,

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<v Speaker 1>and we like Jimmy will uncomfortably adopt that naming convention

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<v Speaker 1>for Brett Goldstein's character. But Jimmy, being a trained, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>therapist and knowing exactly how to broach difficult things just

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as as she's as Alice is celebrating it

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<v Speaker 1>in her driver's license, tells her, oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the drunk driver kills your mom stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, speaking of cars, He says something.

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<v Speaker 1>Like oh Jimmy, oh dear, yeah, yeah, and then Derek

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<v Speaker 1>later calls him on.

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<v Speaker 3>It, Yeah, because he was paid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So then she broods on that for a while

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<v Speaker 1>and doesn't want to drive, and then finally she does,

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<v Speaker 1>and she drives over to the guy's house, which she

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<v Speaker 1>knows where it is. How public records, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess, Yeah, I mean I guess if he was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was arrested and yeah, somehow, you know, prosecuted for this,

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess she could find out that way.

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<v Speaker 1>He still lives in the same place, but don't ask questions. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she finds his house. She's written him a letter, and

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<v Speaker 1>she finds his house, and then she sits and looks

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<v Speaker 1>in the window. So Brett Goldstein gets about fifteen seconds

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<v Speaker 1>of through the window at work this week. But still

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<v Speaker 1>she's kind of messed up about.

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<v Speaker 3>Her Yeah, well as one would be. One would be

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<v Speaker 3>for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it is good advice to write a letter

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<v Speaker 2>and not send it like, good job, Summer.

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<v Speaker 3>The only one.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's into the rescue, right and left here on some

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<v Speaker 1>good psychological advoice, and I'll take that mooney boy off

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I mean, she's she's the only one who's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a trained psychologist in Alice's life.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is They might want to annex her. Do they

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<v Speaker 1>have room for a junior associate?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>You avoid hard conversations because they can be painful. Is

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<v Speaker 1>certainly a line I can relate to. Yes, you bleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and well bet I do?

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<v Speaker 3>Why wouldn't I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't we all? And I guess we got I assume

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<v Speaker 1>this was supposed to be the explanation for the scrunchies

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<v Speaker 1>on Gabby's lamp. Yeah, they were from Tia had them

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<v Speaker 1>scene with Tia. That actress gets a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>for a dead person. But I was fine with them

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<v Speaker 1>just being a whimsical design element. Honestly, I wasn't wondering.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if there's really a reasonable line.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wonder if they have some special meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>But that just gave you, you know, more insight into

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<v Speaker 2>why it's not a good idea for them to be

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<v Speaker 2>sleeping together Gabby and Jimmy. Yes, because Tia was her

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<v Speaker 2>very close friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we're having a whole family thing now for Gabby.

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<v Speaker 1>They're building her out into a difficult family. She has

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<v Speaker 1>a difficult sister who's talking about their difficult mother. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have some parenting content there.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, yes, which we haven't seen really anything with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus we have her throwing us a bone. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I need some parenting content. Girls, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have her student, who we thought we were

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<v Speaker 2>going to see more of, which I still think we will, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking forward to seeing the student's mother and feeling solidarity.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel so seen over involved mothers of college. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>as an old person, I enjoyed when Sean I guess

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<v Speaker 1>was texting Paul and said, it's almost seven, you're probably already.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he voiced to text him like something that

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<v Speaker 2>Paul has to scroll through for twenty minutes to.

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<v Speaker 3>Get to the end of Yes, that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I won't say I've never been nabbing on

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<v Speaker 1>the couch at seven. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and then he misses his window with his doctor friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah several times.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>She's very patient, but she's also like I'm not waiting

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<v Speaker 2>around for you, you know what I mean, Like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this is yes, and she needs to go to bed

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<v Speaker 2>at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Oh yeah. We still have the ongoing thing of

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<v Speaker 1>his patient being in jail. Grace. We're just gonna like

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<v Speaker 1>see her every episode to say, hey, you remember that

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<v Speaker 1>really bad choice we made back again the last season.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to name check it every now and

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<v Speaker 1>then we just dispense with it all together. Yeah, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be fine. Some more work, for a little bit more work,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, I mean, and she's she's doing a great

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<v Speaker 2>job of like being angry and sad and.

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<v Speaker 3>Scared and all the all the feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whole little mini drama there, which I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>had never.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, exactly, Maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>She should write a letter.

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<v Speaker 3>No, she should have done that before.

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<v Speaker 1>We also found it find out that her horrible husband

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<v Speaker 1>was not just abusive and a jerk, but having an

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<v Speaker 1>affair with a coworkers. So is it too late for

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<v Speaker 1>that guy to have been killed in the fall? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it too late? Does he still have to be around?

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<v Speaker 1>Because because no, you please dispense with the subplot asab

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<v Speaker 1>more Brett Goldstein. Yeah, less less that guy stakes of

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<v Speaker 1>the previous season, right, So it's a simple request.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll see what happens next week. We will discuss

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<v Speaker 2>the third episode of season two. Just as a reminder,

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<v Speaker 2>we're a few weeks behind when these are dropping on

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<v Speaker 2>Apple TV Plus. So the third episode is called Psychological something.

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<v Speaker 1>Is more psychologist humor Whoo.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, and we'll see you back here tomorrow for

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<v Speaker 2>our weekly Roundabout roundup.

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<v Speaker 2>links to a lot of the things we've talked about

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<v Speaker 2>over the years.