Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, and for this week of November eleventh,
Speaker 2: we are discussing the second episode of the new season
Speaker 2: of Shrinking.
Speaker 3: It is called I.
Speaker 2: Love Pain, which funds it Gone, which turns out to
Speaker 2: be a coping strategy that Paul gives Sean, which he
Speaker 2: needs to use because he's afraid of Liz. He basically
Speaker 2: it is the may rely just a little bit the
Speaker 2: main reason for that. So so yeah, that's that's the title. Uh,
Speaker 2: there's obviously plenty more going on in this episode.
Speaker 1: For pretty lots, there's lots of pain.
Speaker 2: Gabby's in pain because she, you know, can't be with
Speaker 2: Jimmy anymore because she caught feelings, as she says, and
Speaker 2: she feels like he took advantage of that, and they
Speaker 2: have what's really kind of an alarmingly physical fight over it.
Speaker 3: Like I was kind of like, oh, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 1: You know, I was a little Yeah, well, she has
Speaker 1: to see his underwear, yeah, or the uh, the sex
Speaker 1: that underwear. It would be that he had plans, yes, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So and even you know, his friend Brian's mad because
Speaker 2: he finds out about this whole thing, and he's like,
Speaker 2: how could he not tell? How could Jimmy not tell me?
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be his best friend. Everyone else seems
Speaker 2: to know.
Speaker 3: That this is happening.
Speaker 1: Pay attention you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's busy being in Newlywood. That's right.
Speaker 1: And we have an apparently brilliant solution for the problem
Speaker 1: of Connor mooning over Alice, right, which is summer summer summer?
Speaker 1: Who says, who is that delicious sad boy? I'll give
Speaker 1: him a growth moment so and you know, but Alice
Speaker 1: introduces them and Connor just flips right over. Yeap would
Speaker 1: appear to be while Liz and Derek wonder if they
Speaker 1: can pay her to have sex.
Speaker 2: Person, I don't know, yeah, they may not.
Speaker 1: Need to, yes, yeah, yeah incentive. But one thing that
Speaker 1: I noticed of interest is that Ted McGinley is now
Speaker 1: in the opening credits who plays Derek. He was not
Speaker 1: in season one, so we will be seeing if he
Speaker 1: works as well as a steady presence as he did
Speaker 1: as periodic seasoning, right, I think so? I think that
Speaker 1: character is kind of delightful and such a nice counterpoint
Speaker 1: to Liz.
Speaker 2: Yes, but who needs a counterpoint?
Speaker 1: Yes, very much? So, oh well, so happy to see him.
Speaker 1: And he was very funny spying on Jimmy just all
Speaker 1: the time. Right, These people are kind of dangerously up
Speaker 1: in one another's business. They are not you know, we
Speaker 1: can Gabby last time last week, but this week it's
Speaker 1: Derek and Jimmy. Right, but how can you resist? You know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, and we can. We can certainly relate
Speaker 2: to you know, Sean being afraid of disappointing his his
Speaker 2: mother figure Liz. You know, it's not just that she
Speaker 2: funded his his and she works with him on the
Speaker 2: on the food truck, and Derek gave a lot of
Speaker 2: the money for it. But you know, she definitely has
Speaker 2: a maternal role to him and to Alice, and so
Speaker 2: he needs he needs a real pep talk from Paul
Speaker 2: the Harrison Ford character, to to confront Liz about how
Speaker 2: he does not want to be, uh do an interview
Speaker 2: with a food blogger.
Speaker 1: Right because the food blogger wants to talk about him
Speaker 1: being a vet and he is avoiding.
Speaker 2: That, right, which I kind of thought, you know, last
Speaker 2: week it was all about how you have to confront
Speaker 2: these things, you can't shrink away from them, and this
Speaker 2: week the problem was avoiding the confrontation with Liz, not
Speaker 2: not avoiding confronting your past. So I did think that
Speaker 2: Paul was going to tell him, you have to talk
Speaker 2: to this, But.
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I'm going to try that that little
Speaker 1: visualization thing that you mentioned next time. I have a
Speaker 1: difficult thing to confront and see if it works. See
Speaker 1: if TV psychologist Tarys and Port really out what it takes.
Speaker 1: He certainly is not doing super great managing his own
Speaker 1: life at the moment.
Speaker 2: So right, Yeah, although By the end of the episode,
Speaker 2: he has decided it's okay for him to be friendly
Speaker 2: with his former patient, does which I know that guy
Speaker 2: is from Cougartown and Scrubs.
Speaker 3: Yeah was in Cougartown, wasn't.
Speaker 1: He's definitely Scrubs.
Speaker 3: He's a Bill Lawrence guy.
Speaker 1: He's in the Bill Lawrence Repertory Company. But it feels
Speaker 1: like that character is just an excuse to have Neil
Speaker 1: Flynn on. But that's fine. I like him any excuse.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, so you could use a friend, I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So in the season long plot about what Summer has
Speaker 1: now called double D the drunk driver who killed Alice's mother,
Speaker 1: and we like Jimmy will uncomfortably adopt that naming convention
Speaker 1: for Brett Goldstein's character. But Jimmy, being a trained, you know,
Speaker 1: therapist and knowing exactly how to broach difficult things just
Speaker 1: as soon as as she's as Alice is celebrating it
Speaker 1: in her driver's license, tells her, oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: the drunk driver kills your mom stopped.
Speaker 2: Right, speaking of cars, He says something.
Speaker 1: Like oh Jimmy, oh dear, yeah, yeah, and then Derek
Speaker 1: later calls him on.
Speaker 3: It, Yeah, because he was paid.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So then she broods on that for a while
Speaker 1: and doesn't want to drive, and then finally she does,
Speaker 1: and she drives over to the guy's house, which she
Speaker 1: knows where it is. How public records, I.
Speaker 2: Guess, Yeah, I mean I guess if he was you know,
Speaker 2: he was arrested and yeah, somehow, you know, prosecuted for this,
Speaker 2: So I guess she could find out that way.
Speaker 1: He still lives in the same place, but don't ask questions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she finds his house. She's written him a letter, and
Speaker 1: she finds his house, and then she sits and looks
Speaker 1: in the window. So Brett Goldstein gets about fifteen seconds
Speaker 1: of through the window at work this week. But still
Speaker 1: she's kind of messed up about.
Speaker 3: Her Yeah, well as one would be. One would be
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean, it is good advice to write a letter
Speaker 2: and not send it like, good job, Summer.
Speaker 3: The only one.
Speaker 1: Who's into the rescue, right and left here on some
Speaker 1: good psychological advoice, and I'll take that mooney boy off
Speaker 1: your hands.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, she's she's the only one who's.
Speaker 2: Not a trained psychologist in Alice's life.
Speaker 1: Who is They might want to annex her. Do they
Speaker 1: have room for a junior associate?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: You avoid hard conversations because they can be painful. Is
Speaker 1: certainly a line I can relate to. Yes, you bleep,
Speaker 1: and well bet I do?
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't I.
Speaker 1: Don't we all? And I guess we got I assume
Speaker 1: this was supposed to be the explanation for the scrunchies
Speaker 1: on Gabby's lamp. Yeah, they were from Tia had them
Speaker 1: scene with Tia. That actress gets a lot of work
Speaker 1: for a dead person. But I was fine with them
Speaker 1: just being a whimsical design element. Honestly, I wasn't wondering.
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's really a reasonable line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if they have some special meeting.
Speaker 2: But that just gave you, you know, more insight into
Speaker 2: why it's not a good idea for them to be
Speaker 2: sleeping together Gabby and Jimmy. Yes, because Tia was her
Speaker 2: very close friend.
Speaker 1: Right, we're having a whole family thing now for Gabby.
Speaker 1: They're building her out into a difficult family. She has
Speaker 1: a difficult sister who's talking about their difficult mother. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna have some parenting content there.
Speaker 2: Boy, yes, which we haven't seen really anything with that.
Speaker 1: Plus we have her throwing us a bone. You know,
Speaker 1: I need some parenting content. Girls, there you go.
Speaker 2: We also have her student, who we thought we were
Speaker 2: going to see more of, which I still think we will, but.
Speaker 1: Looking forward to seeing the student's mother and feeling solidarity.
Speaker 1: I feel so seen over involved mothers of college. Yes,
Speaker 1: as an old person, I enjoyed when Sean I guess
Speaker 1: was texting Paul and said, it's almost seven, you're probably already.
Speaker 2: And then he voiced to text him like something that
Speaker 2: Paul has to scroll through for twenty minutes to.
Speaker 3: Get to the end of Yes, that was.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I won't say I've never been nabbing on
Speaker 1: the couch at seven. Oh.
Speaker 2: Yes, and then he misses his window with his doctor friend.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah several times.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: She's very patient, but she's also like I'm not waiting
Speaker 2: around for you, you know what I mean, Like, yes,
Speaker 2: this is yes, and she needs to go to bed
Speaker 2: at some point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Oh yeah. We still have the ongoing thing of
Speaker 1: his patient being in jail. Grace. We're just gonna like
Speaker 1: see her every episode to say, hey, you remember that
Speaker 1: really bad choice we made back again the last season.
Speaker 1: You just have to name check it every now and
Speaker 1: then we just dispense with it all together. Yeah, it'll
Speaker 1: be fine. Some more work, for a little bit more work,
Speaker 1: and then we're out of here.
Speaker 2: But okay, I mean, and she's she's doing a great
Speaker 2: job of like being angry and sad and.
Speaker 3: Scared and all the all the feelings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whole little mini drama there, which I wish I
Speaker 1: had never.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, exactly, Maybe.
Speaker 1: She should write a letter.
Speaker 3: No, she should have done that before.
Speaker 1: We also found it find out that her horrible husband
Speaker 1: was not just abusive and a jerk, but having an
Speaker 1: affair with a coworkers. So is it too late for
Speaker 1: that guy to have been killed in the fall? Is
Speaker 1: it too late? Does he still have to be around?
Speaker 1: Because because no, you please dispense with the subplot asab
Speaker 1: more Brett Goldstein. Yeah, less less that guy stakes of
Speaker 1: the previous season, right, So it's a simple request.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see what happens next week. We will discuss
Speaker 2: the third episode of season two. Just as a reminder,
Speaker 2: we're a few weeks behind when these are dropping on
Speaker 2: Apple TV Plus. So the third episode is called Psychological something.
Speaker 1: Is more psychologist humor Whoo.
Speaker 2: That's right, and we'll see you back here tomorrow for
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