Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, j Wider, Reality Check, hit like and support
Speaker 1: and all that, and we're here today with Ryder Lee,
Speaker 1: my partner in crime, and he has a new film
Speaker 1: out well, Psychic Agent The Gate Program. Really good. It's
Speaker 1: just opened up on Amazon. Put the link below, and
Speaker 1: it's a really really really good film, really well done.
Speaker 1: It's got great guests and the plot interwees, remote viewing,
Speaker 1: MK ultra and the Gate Program kind of all. It
Speaker 1: was very very well done. Hey, Ryder, good job.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Jay. We did it. It's finally out.
Speaker 2: It took a really long time, but we finally got
Speaker 2: it out there, and we were thinking that maybe there
Speaker 2: was a lot of stuff in this film that you know,
Speaker 2: the powers that be did not want people to see.
Speaker 2: But thankfully it's out there. You can now watch it
Speaker 2: on Amazon Prime Video. Jay's got the link in the description.
Speaker 2: Go over there and check it out, give it a watch,
Speaker 2: and clear out your schedule because it's around two hours
Speaker 2: long and there's a lot of information in there. And
Speaker 2: I mean the first fifty minutes is like basically the
Speaker 2: history of the entire psychic spy program that the government
Speaker 2: set up and how that all came to be. And
Speaker 2: how that originated, throughout all the name changes and everything
Speaker 2: that really happened with that, And that was really important
Speaker 2: for me to really nail down because I don't think
Speaker 2: that there has ever been a documentary really comprehensively getting
Speaker 2: into all of that, because some of the people within
Speaker 2: the gay program don't even agree on the entire history
Speaker 2: of the Stargate program. So it's like, you know, I
Speaker 2: thought that it was really important, but it's all laid
Speaker 2: out according to official, declassified DA and CIA documents. So
Speaker 2: I hope you guys really enjoy it. Clear out the schedule,
Speaker 2: sit down, take notes on your phone, or if you're
Speaker 2: still using a pad and a piece of paper, you're
Speaker 2: probably going to want to take notes or just rewatch
Speaker 2: it again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the history is really interesting, you know, because it
Speaker 1: really started in nineteen fifty eight, which is a really
Speaker 1: strange year in history. By the way, A lot of
Speaker 1: stuff happened in nineteen fifty eight, but Sputnik happened in
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty eight, and you're showing your film how that
Speaker 1: caused the government to go into a full scale panic
Speaker 1: that our education system was not up to par with Russia.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was and it was all decentralized
Speaker 1: at the time. I was only a little kid, I
Speaker 1: don't remember, but it was pretty much each city had
Speaker 1: its own educational system, each state had its own educational system.
Speaker 1: Federal government had nothing to do with anything. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden that just changed and on the
Speaker 1: federal government got completely involved in the education system. And
Speaker 1: that's really where the beginning of this whole psychic thing started, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it even goes further back to that than
Speaker 2: that at Duke University in the thirties with doctor J.
Speaker 2: B Ryan, which developed this telepathy card game called the
Speaker 2: zunder Cards, and then he would go to Canada and test,
Speaker 2: you know, indigenous school children for psychic abilities. He also
Speaker 2: did this in the United States. So the government had
Speaker 2: been funding these different operations through different universities and other
Speaker 2: government contractors long before they ever decided to really study
Speaker 2: it or before SRI ever, you know, got into the
Speaker 2: picture and involved into psychic research and remote viewing. So
Speaker 2: there's a longstanding history with this stuff, and you're one
Speaker 2: hundred percent right in with the Sputnik and how we
Speaker 2: needed to essentially go in and grab scientists and engineers
Speaker 2: and basically cultivate children to put them into roles within society.
Speaker 2: And yeah, they had to do that because I mean,
Speaker 2: that's what it that's the official excuse right in the beginning,
Speaker 2: was that we need to basically cultivate and create these
Speaker 2: people within our society out of the public school system
Speaker 2: because Russia has all the stuff. They beat us in
Speaker 2: the space. It's that classic, you know, Russia did this,
Speaker 2: we got to do it too, type of scenario. And
Speaker 2: what I found really interesting is that Russia on paper
Speaker 2: got more not the scientists and engineers into Russia than
Speaker 2: the United States. They got around six thousand Nazi engineers
Speaker 2: and scientists and people like that, and more than what
Speaker 2: was officially recorded on paper in Project paper Clip, the
Speaker 2: ones that came into the United States. But there was
Speaker 2: a Russian version of that that was called there was
Speaker 2: essentially the Russian version of the Project paper Clip, and
Speaker 2: that's all over six thousand Nazi scientists and engineers and
Speaker 2: their family members put on a train and taken into
Speaker 2: Russia after World War Two. So it's almost like the
Speaker 2: United States got some of the kind of the leftover
Speaker 2: scraps from that, the people that you know, the leftovers,
Speaker 2: the second hand people are the ones that the United
Speaker 2: States got, and that's shown within the remote viewing and
Speaker 2: psychic spy documents. Russia was very heavily into the energetic
Speaker 2: side of remoteing and telepathy and trying to remove, you know,
Speaker 2: move things with your mind and use this program called
Speaker 2: a Donnie ghypnos, which is essentially hypnosis at a distance.
Speaker 2: If they could literally hypnotize people and plant thoughts and
Speaker 2: ideas into other people's minds from across the world on
Speaker 2: the other side of the planet, then you can effectively
Speaker 2: control people, politicians, You can make them do what you
Speaker 2: want them to do. And Jimmy Carter kind of got
Speaker 2: wrapped up into this. One of the times that he
Speaker 2: went to Russia was one of the last, well the
Speaker 2: only time that he went, and whenever he came back,
Speaker 2: he wasn't really quite the same. He was a different
Speaker 2: type of individual. And within the remote viewing community, Lim
Speaker 2: Buchanan talks about this within the movie. People believe that
Speaker 2: that was due to an infiltration into his mind and
Speaker 2: then messing with his mind in Russia through these psychic
Speaker 2: remove viewers.
Speaker 1: And we know that this is not like some Outlantic
Speaker 1: stuff because Tim O'Neill the author of Chaos just testified
Speaker 1: in front of the in front of Congress about all
Speaker 1: of this. It said that they can literally put thoughts
Speaker 1: into your mind. He said that in front of Congress.
Speaker 1: So it's not an outlandis thing at all. It's actually
Speaker 1: quite an easy thing to do.
Speaker 2: It's wrapped up into the mk Ultra stuff. Mk Ultra.
Speaker 2: There were several mk ultra subprojects that were used just
Speaker 2: for the study of psychic abilities, and several of them
Speaker 2: were on children as well. I mean, I have a
Speaker 2: whole part in the documentary that just talks about the
Speaker 2: CIA's involvement with children and what they were doing with
Speaker 2: children as summer camps. It's really verifiable, so it seems
Speaker 2: like it's a The gate program is a big mixture
Speaker 2: of a bunch of different things. It wraps in the
Speaker 2: psychic spy stuff, it wraps in the mk Ultra, wraps
Speaker 2: in the Monroe Institute. And that's another really big distinction
Speaker 2: that I think that we really get across within the
Speaker 2: movie is that there's a lot of gate stuff, Like
Speaker 2: it seems like a lot of things has gate at
Speaker 2: the end of it. You got the Gateway Project, the
Speaker 2: Stargate project that you got the gate programs in public school.
Speaker 2: It seems like that they're kind of naming all of
Speaker 2: these things very similar, so that you kind of get confused.
Speaker 2: And because I really believe that a lot of people
Speaker 2: got confused between the Monroe Institute Gateway program and the
Speaker 2: Stargate program. See a lot of people that were involved
Speaker 2: in the Gateway program got confused and thought that they
Speaker 2: were a part of the Stargate program. But I have
Speaker 2: Dell Graph in the documentary that actually coined the term
Speaker 2: Stargate for the remote viewing unit in the early nineties,
Speaker 2: and it went through several name changes. It was Center Lane,
Speaker 2: Sunstreet Girl, Flame. It went through all of these different
Speaker 2: name changes in different iterations through different organizations. It was
Speaker 2: from the DA then went to the Army Intelligence, back
Speaker 2: to DIA. It was this back and forth of and
Speaker 2: anybody that doubts that remote viewing doesn't work, I mean,
Speaker 2: you can just read through some of the documents. That's
Speaker 2: what I did. I read through every single document that
Speaker 2: I could possibly get my hands on, and there are
Speaker 2: real verifiable depictions and drawings of these individuals literally seeing
Speaker 2: things with their mind, and it's called an idiogram. They
Speaker 2: would literally sketch it out on a piece of paper
Speaker 2: and and there would be a lot of them turned
Speaker 2: out to be very correct. I mean Angela Ford within
Speaker 2: the documentary, she was a psychic spy for the DA
Speaker 2: and Army intelligence. You know, she will tell you that
Speaker 2: they weren't even really that accurate, but most of them were.
Speaker 2: They would hit it like it a sixty sixty to
Speaker 2: seventy percent. And if something works sixty to seventy percent
Speaker 2: of the time, I think that's a pretty good ratio
Speaker 2: when you're looking at it from you know, the whenever
Speaker 2: you take that information and then gather with the actual
Speaker 2: information that you do have and that you can't get
Speaker 2: from like intel and imagery and everything. So then you
Speaker 2: would combine the information that the removed viewers are also
Speaker 2: getting along with all the other information that you have,
Speaker 2: and then you have a kind of a detailed, accurate
Speaker 2: thing that is essentially going on in that area. But
Speaker 2: Ingo swan really popular remove viewer, considered one of the
Speaker 2: best pap price another really popular Removvie were widely considered
Speaker 2: to be one of the greatest remove viewers of all time.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, I think that we just really we
Speaker 2: hit on a lot of different areas in there, and
Speaker 2: I think it's really great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of really quite brilliant how you mixed
Speaker 1: the mkos or remote viewing and the Gate program. So
Speaker 1: what is the What do you think is the goal
Speaker 1: of the Gate program? They take these kids, they test them.
Speaker 1: The ones that turn out to have some psychic ability
Speaker 1: to get moved into classrooms away from the other students,
Speaker 1: and then they're given psychic tests. We don't know a
Speaker 1: lot about what happened. All the stories are so disparate.
Speaker 1: Some people don't remember anything. I talk to people who
Speaker 1: don't remember. They went every year, but they don't remember
Speaker 1: what happened. I just don't know. But what do you
Speaker 1: think the goal is still going on? So what is
Speaker 1: the goal? Where were they trying to do?
Speaker 2: Well? A lot of people remember being in the Gay Program.
Speaker 2: Millions of kids have been through it. A lot of
Speaker 2: people now are experiencing what they claim to be some
Speaker 2: sort of collective dream that they all seem to be in.
Speaker 2: They've labeled in more World and they've kind of mapped
Speaker 2: it all out, and they're there every single night. And
Speaker 2: I've spoken with some individuals that have reached out to
Speaker 2: me from me making this movie and making them aware,
Speaker 2: and they said that their kids are currently in the program.
Speaker 2: He said that one individual that I can't name because
Speaker 2: he wants his identity to be secret and you know,
Speaker 2: because of scrutiny, and he lives in like a an
Speaker 2: area that if you were to come out and say this,
Speaker 2: they would automatically know, you know, who he was. But
Speaker 2: he said that his daughter came back from school one
Speaker 2: day and was like, every single day, this black van
Speaker 2: pulls up to the school and me and a handful
Speaker 2: of kids get on this get inside of this black van,
Speaker 2: this black suv, and then we go on these field
Speaker 2: trips every day. She said, this happens. And she says
Speaker 2: whenever she gets home at night, a bunch of kids
Speaker 2: come and get her out of bed in the middle
Speaker 2: of the night, and then they go outside and they
Speaker 2: all go out and meet in the middle of the
Speaker 2: night during the school week.
Speaker 1: Willie's three Streever wrote a book called Secret School that's
Speaker 1: been thirty years ago about and he's my age, and
Speaker 1: he said the same thing he was. I think it
Speaker 1: was San Antonio he lived in and they would come
Speaker 1: and get him at night and they take him to
Speaker 1: places and you know that would have to be around
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two or so, so it was going on
Speaker 1: even back then. And when I first read his book,
Speaker 1: I thought it was all balder dash. I said, come,
Speaker 1: only give me a break, right, And then this stuff
Speaker 1: started coming out, and let's apologize to the whity man.
Speaker 1: You were onto something I did not know. So where
Speaker 1: are we going with it? With all this? What's the
Speaker 1: what's the ultimate goal here? But do you think I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just hypothetical because we don't know. But what do
Speaker 1: you think?
Speaker 2: Well, there's multifaceted and multi layered, right, and they definitely
Speaker 2: want to create leaders in communities, including inventors and outside
Speaker 2: of the box thinkers, and they want to control them
Speaker 2: from the very beginning. I believe that this is about
Speaker 2: control on many different levels. And whenever you have those
Speaker 2: types of when you can control people from a very
Speaker 2: young age, you can essentially then control the future because
Speaker 2: you have all of the brightest minds in the United
Speaker 2: States working for you. You have them working for the
Speaker 2: government essentially, so no one can really step outside of
Speaker 2: that and create something that's going to benefit and change
Speaker 2: our way of life, right, because you already have them.
Speaker 2: You know, working for you, and the ones that slipped
Speaker 2: through the cracks that may invent something that would really
Speaker 2: change our way of life and revolutionize the way that
Speaker 2: we operate as a society. Those inventions and those patterns
Speaker 2: just get buried under the National Security Act and no
Speaker 2: one ever finds out about it, and then a lot
Speaker 2: of times they're just killed, assassinated or murdered. Right. The
Speaker 2: Invention Secrecy Act of nineteen fifty one, you know, basically
Speaker 2: makes it to where the government can classify in any
Speaker 2: patent under the threat of national security. And that's the
Speaker 2: best excuse for anything. The government has been been using
Speaker 2: the excuse of a threat of national security for who
Speaker 2: knows how long, Because national security can be whatever you
Speaker 2: want it to be. They can just say, yeah, this
Speaker 2: is national security. You can't know, or we're doing this
Speaker 2: because of national security reasons. We see this a lot
Speaker 2: with the UFO topic, which I believe in the future
Speaker 2: where a lot of information is going to come out
Speaker 2: about this and it's going to, you know, be something
Speaker 2: like that. Some of these kids maybe being groomed to
Speaker 2: essentilly control craft with their mind.
Speaker 1: So they're captured. They're capturing the best of the best
Speaker 1: from a young age and they're pretty much captured for
Speaker 1: the rest of their life. And the ones that rebel
Speaker 1: are taking care of in whatever way that they take
Speaker 1: care of it.
Speaker 2: So they would get them hooked on some torpos to
Speaker 2: the type of drugs they would essentially drug the crap
Speaker 2: out of them. I mean Charlie Kirk. This is what
Speaker 2: was going to happen to Charlie Kirk. They wanted to
Speaker 2: drug him, put him on a cramp ton of drugs
Speaker 2: and his mom said no, and then they put him
Speaker 2: into a specialized Gate Program school. So if you rebel,
Speaker 2: then they essentially turned your life to cramp they did.
Speaker 1: That's what I've been told now. I had a woman
Speaker 1: tell me she was in the Gate Program and she
Speaker 1: said that she came home one day after school completely traumatized,
Speaker 1: but she couldn't tell her mom what she was traumatized bot.
Speaker 1: She didn't know, but her mom thought that she had
Speaker 1: been sexually traumatized. She was like twelve years old, And
Speaker 1: I kept her out of school for two weeks and
Speaker 1: then started attending school with her because she was too
Speaker 1: terrorized to go back to school. She did not want
Speaker 1: to go back, and eventually she did go back and
Speaker 1: the trauma subsided. But you got to wonder what happened
Speaker 1: to her, right, I mean if we.
Speaker 2: Know that.
Speaker 1: Trauma can make you more psychic, and we do know that, now,
Speaker 1: would they have the moral fiber to not do that?
Speaker 2: I don't think shot, I don't think any of these
Speaker 2: people are moral. They don't care at all. They just
Speaker 2: want to They want to work on and do what's
Speaker 2: best for them so that they.
Speaker 1: Can get to their bottom line.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's really what it is. And they don't
Speaker 2: care how many people that they hurt in the process,
Speaker 2: and that's inevitable. I mean if you just look back
Speaker 2: at the last fifty to sixty years, I mean you
Speaker 2: can see that that it's all right in front of
Speaker 2: her face, is that these people do not care about
Speaker 2: us and who they who they harm, and who they
Speaker 2: hurt and who they traumatized. Now we just have a
Speaker 2: traumatization on mass scales, and now they just do it
Speaker 2: to everybody all at the exact same time instead of
Speaker 2: you know, an individual type process. But yes, trauma does
Speaker 2: tend to unlock these abilities. I mean we kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, postulated that in our film before this, which
Speaker 2: was a clockwork Shining in Cubric's Odyssey three, where we
Speaker 2: essentially the doctor within the movie, the Shining is telling
Speaker 2: Wendy in the apartment that you know this has to
Speaker 2: do with him being injured and him being traumatized, that
Speaker 2: he's started having these psychic visions. They've known this for
Speaker 2: a really long time. And Ravens Craig started by doctor
Speaker 2: Hugh and Cameron in Canada. That was his process, right,
Speaker 2: you drug them, you traumatize them, you psychically drive them.
Speaker 2: Then well he did this thing before the psychic driving
Speaker 2: called deep patterning, which was a part of the traumatization
Speaker 2: in there, and then you psychically drive them, so then
Speaker 2: you can implant thoughts and ideas and beliefs directly into
Speaker 2: their head and make them believe something that may or
Speaker 2: may not have happened, or make them not believe something
Speaker 2: that did happen. It works both ways. And that's what
Speaker 2: it seems like that is going on within these gay programs, right.
Speaker 2: They're forced to be taking a strange substance, the pink
Speaker 2: drink that everyone talks about. To me, that seems like
Speaker 2: it's some kind of drug. Now, what kind of drug
Speaker 2: we don't really know? Could be some sort of hallucinogenic drug.
Speaker 2: It could be something that gets you more relaxed, it
Speaker 2: could be a sedative whatever. And then they take them
Speaker 2: in and they give them this hearing test, and the
Speaker 2: hearing tests are essentially a biofeedback type Monroe Institute get
Speaker 2: you outside of your body type thing. And then what
Speaker 2: did we equate to getting outside of your body? Getting
Speaker 2: outside of your body is equating you to unlocking your
Speaker 2: psychic abilities. So when you lay all this stuff out
Speaker 2: and you know all this is very real, That's what
Speaker 2: the Monroe Institute Gateway tapes were to do, was to
Speaker 2: induce an out of body experiment, and that's why the
Speaker 2: CIA got so interested in the Monroe Institute. The d
Speaker 2: IA literally send army soldiers to the Monroe Institute to
Speaker 2: study under Robert Monroe to see if getting outside of
Speaker 2: your body can essentially help. And a lot of the
Speaker 2: earlier remote viewers like Ingo Swan would talk about how
Speaker 2: being outside of your body is really the most advanced
Speaker 2: form of remote viewing. So astral projection is the most
Speaker 2: advanced form of remote viewing because you're actually there.
Speaker 1: Reap what they're teaching them. They're teaching them how to
Speaker 1: go out of their body, how to astrally project, how
Speaker 1: to become a remote viewer, how to spy on your neighbors,
Speaker 1: how to spy on your corporation that you're working for,
Speaker 1: how to be in meetings that you're not invited to
Speaker 1: because you're remote viewed them. That's what they're doing. And
Speaker 1: then that's all fed back to some kind of profiling
Speaker 1: mechanism Ai've probably driven now, but before that just computer driven,
Speaker 1: and then profiles are created on not just the people
Speaker 1: that are in the program, but people that are around them,
Speaker 1: so because they're there, and then the successful ones get
Speaker 1: to be at the top of the entertainment and the
Speaker 1: politics and the corporate world. And then the ones that
Speaker 1: don't comply end up probably vetinol, addicts or something something
Speaker 1: to lower their ability. You know, there's a movie I
Speaker 1: highly recommend it. It's called The Fury. It was directed
Speaker 1: by Brian de Palma, and it's about two young people
Speaker 1: who well, the beginning of the movie, a psychic guy
Speaker 1: is walking around Chicago trying to identify people who are psychic, right,
Speaker 1: and he identifies as one woman is being psychic, and
Speaker 1: then she gets taken into a program where they give
Speaker 1: the cards all the psychic stuff goes on, and it's
Speaker 1: a precursor to all of this. It must have been
Speaker 1: made by somebody in the CIA or something, because I
Speaker 1: don't know how that movie got everything so right, But
Speaker 1: it was even back then, in nineteen seventy eight, there
Speaker 1: were special schools that were taken in psychic kids by
Speaker 1: the government. The government was doing it. Sean Cassabetti's is
Speaker 1: the government agent in the movie who's running the program
Speaker 1: looking for psychic kids. And so this has been around
Speaker 1: only time. That movie is almost fifty years old, and
Speaker 1: so it's not something that is new, but it is
Speaker 1: something that has not been talked about in a way
Speaker 1: that is real, because that movie is a fiction. So
Speaker 1: now we know that they have had these programs, and
Speaker 1: then raises the question like, are all our leaders in
Speaker 1: all these fields? Are they all the direct results of
Speaker 1: the Gate program? I mean, I think the answer is yeah.
Speaker 2: I think so too. And it seems like that they
Speaker 2: just put out a bunch of front people, Like the
Speaker 2: military will develop a technology, then they'll give that technology
Speaker 2: to the public. But the only way to give it
Speaker 2: to the BLAKE is to create a front person for
Speaker 2: the public facing version of the military. Project. So then
Speaker 2: they make it look like that the public front facing
Speaker 2: person that developed this all this stuff is the one
Speaker 2: that created it, when they really weren't. They were just
Speaker 2: given They were just given the technology and was like, here,
Speaker 2: we want to bring this out to the public. We
Speaker 2: don't know how to bring this out to the public
Speaker 2: because this is a military created operation. Here, we'll give
Speaker 2: this to you. You go out and say that you
Speaker 2: created this whole thing. And then I mean, I one
Speaker 2: percent believe that with Mark Zuckerberg, A one percent believe
Speaker 2: the Facebook was a some sort of operation that was
Speaker 2: just given to Mark Zuckerberg. And then he's a front
Speaker 2: facing person of that company and he pretends to run it,
Speaker 2: run it when he's not really the one doing anything.
Speaker 1: He never And the real insult is that, like Zucky,
Speaker 1: he's got to give a lot of that money back
Speaker 1: to the people that gave him that technology. He's didn't
Speaker 1: get away with that for free. He doesn't get to
Speaker 1: make hundreds of billions of dollars. That's how it works.
Speaker 1: I have a friend whose dad was in the Navy
Speaker 1: for like twenty five years. He retired, but when he retired,
Speaker 1: he started inventing. He wasn't an engineer or anything, but
Speaker 1: somehow he started inventing all this navigational equipment for the
Speaker 1: Navy and for private people that have ships and everything.
Speaker 1: And he's literally made like, within five years of retiring
Speaker 1: from the Navy, he was a billionaire. And I knew
Speaker 1: his daughter. She used to tell me I'm going to
Speaker 1: make a one hundred million dollars when my dad dies,
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, I'm going to follow this one.
Speaker 1: So I kept following it, and then finally her dad died,
Speaker 1: and about a year later I saw her after her
Speaker 1: dad died and I said, so, how much money did
Speaker 1: you get? And she didn't and really sour look on
Speaker 1: her face. I said, wait a minute, did you get
Speaker 1: your one hundred million dollars that you were going to
Speaker 1: get from your dad's great inventions? And she looks at
Speaker 1: he goes, well, oh, I got a couple hundred thousand
Speaker 1: so far.
Speaker 2: I'm like what.
Speaker 1: And still to this day, ten years since he died,
Speaker 1: she's only gotten like under a million dollars, right, and
Speaker 1: all of his money's gone, It's gone. I asked her
Speaker 1: where is all the money? She said, she told me directly,
Speaker 1: the CIA took it I'm like, oh my god, and
Speaker 1: I said, you're probably right. They probably did, and but
Speaker 1: they take it back. I think that I don't want
Speaker 1: to cast dis versions on Steve Jobs. He's a brilliant guy.
Speaker 1: But I think the iPad actually is actually that. I
Speaker 1: think the MAC is actually that. I think the MAC
Speaker 1: and the iPad were invented for the secret space program,
Speaker 1: some kind of military operation, and then they finally so, oh,
Speaker 1: let's put it out. We'll make a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: money Steve Jobs and kick back millions back to us.
Speaker 1: And I think that's how it works. I don't know
Speaker 1: how much Steve Jobs actually had in his bank account
Speaker 1: when he died. You know, he might have been one
Speaker 1: of them too, by the way, he might have been
Speaker 1: a gate a gator.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way that it seems like it's shaping up.
Speaker 2: And even with the Hemi Sinh technology and the Gateway
Speaker 2: tapes in the Monroe Institute, it almost seems like the
Speaker 2: Robert Monroe didn't really invent it, that he was given
Speaker 2: the technology.
Speaker 1: We know the institute was cia frant We built that
Speaker 1: for years, so I mean, we know it. It's not
Speaker 1: a secret. We looked at the board members like fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago, and they were all CIA, all of them.
Speaker 1: So he Monroe's always been kind of a compromised institute,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: But I don't have anything bad to say about him.
Speaker 2: I literally watched so much of his interviews just to
Speaker 2: get the clips for the documentary, and he seemed like
Speaker 2: he was a very genuine person that was really interested
Speaker 2: in a lot of this stuff. So I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to be disparaging toward the Monroe Institute, but it does
Speaker 2: seem like that Andrija Puharag had a hand in a
Speaker 2: lot of those documents, and he might have been the
Speaker 2: one that kind of pushed Monroe in this direction to then,
Speaker 2: you know, bring this technology to the public. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of different ways that you can because when you
Speaker 2: think about it, they're taking kids in there essentially drugging them. Again,
Speaker 2: we don't know with what exact drugs, but it's a
Speaker 2: strange substance. Every child that remembers taking this sort of drink.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's different colors. Sometimes it's an orange drink, sometimes
Speaker 2: it's a pink drink. Sometimes it's different. But they're all
Speaker 2: told that the substance and the reason that they're taking
Speaker 2: it is for a different reason. Some people were told
Speaker 2: that it was vitamins. Other people were told that it
Speaker 2: was like a liquid vaccine. Other people were told that
Speaker 2: it was asthma medication. But regardless, they were told to
Speaker 2: take it. So when you think of they're drugging these
Speaker 2: these kids, a lot of people remember like three D glasses,
Speaker 2: having to put on a set of three D glasses,
Speaker 2: and that would be to try and induce and bring
Speaker 2: out these psychic abilities and get you outside of your
Speaker 2: body faster, because think about it, if you're drugged and
Speaker 2: then you have these headphones on your head that induce
Speaker 2: them out of body experience, the best way to do
Speaker 2: that on top of the drugs would be to put
Speaker 2: some three D type of glasses on the kind of
Speaker 2: blurry your vision and make doubles of everything. They remember
Speaker 2: the flash cards, and you can essentially do this with
Speaker 2: taking a set of ping pong balls, well just one
Speaker 2: ping pong ball, and cutting the ping pong ball in
Speaker 2: half and then taping them to your eyelids and then
Speaker 2: taking a bright red light and shining it on your face.
Speaker 2: And people that have done this for a long period
Speaker 2: of time experience visions, they see things, they tend to hallucinate.
Speaker 2: So then if you couple that on with taking some
Speaker 2: sort of hallucinogenic drug, you're really going to You're really
Speaker 2: going to be in there, you know. And that experiment
Speaker 2: is very real. It's called the Handsfeld experiment. Dean Raiding
Speaker 2: that was just on. Joe Rogan talked about this and
Speaker 2: how children are tend to be more psychic, and even
Speaker 2: in the documents that we show in the movie A
Speaker 2: Psychic Agent, the Gate program says that children are more
Speaker 2: psychic than adults. They tend to no more, they tend
Speaker 2: to be more open to the psychic phenomena and it
Speaker 2: can predict things better than adults do or even teenagers do.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's true. I was definitely more psychic when I
Speaker 1: was a little kid than I am now. Actually was
Speaker 1: actually scaring me. I know something was going to happen
Speaker 1: before it happened, and I'd be warning my dad to
Speaker 1: watch out while we're driving. All of a sudden we
Speaker 1: see a semi crash, right, and but it did afterrophee
Speaker 1: a little bit. As I age, although lately it seems
Speaker 1: like my ability is increasing. I'm not sure what's going
Speaker 1: on here. I've been told by a bunch of people
Speaker 1: that it's everybody. He's getting more psychic right now. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. I can definitely admit
Speaker 1: that I am. I'm having incredible experiences and sometimes I
Speaker 1: just don't understand how I'm doing it. But so, where
Speaker 1: do you think we are now with all this?
Speaker 2: You know, I heard.
Speaker 1: I heard a guy he was in the Gate program,
Speaker 1: I think it was on YouTube, and he told me,
Speaker 1: or he told the audience that the whole purpose of
Speaker 1: the of the program was to get in communication with
Speaker 1: non human intelligence. Did you hear anything like that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of the goal of the Monroe Institute
Speaker 2: technology was to get outside of your body and talk
Speaker 2: with non human entities. I mean, Robert Monroe talked about
Speaker 2: doing all the time.
Speaker 1: All the time.
Speaker 2: He would literally every time that he would get outside
Speaker 2: of his body, and then he would take that information
Speaker 2: that the entity gave him, This non human promorphic entity
Speaker 2: would tell him all this stuff, and then he would
Speaker 2: come back and he would write it down. And that's
Speaker 2: how he wrote a lot of his books. These entities
Speaker 2: were just giving him information. I mean, it's really fat.
Speaker 2: I sat down and I listened to an eight hour
Speaker 2: presentation of Robert Monroe talking about all this stuff and
Speaker 2: it's actually really incredible, and he's talking about you know,
Speaker 2: reincarnation and essentially, you know, becoming, giving a version of
Speaker 2: God yourself and creating your own reality and your own planning.
Speaker 2: And he said that he went back home and then
Speaker 2: whenever he that's all that he wanted to do is
Speaker 2: like go back home. And we've had this long, long
Speaker 2: instance of us thinking that we don't belong here and
Speaker 2: that this place is in our home and that was
Speaker 2: basically his goal. And he talks about this in a
Speaker 2: lot of his interviews. He's like, I just want to
Speaker 2: go back home, and that's what he would talk with
Speaker 2: these entities about, like how do I get back home?
Speaker 2: And finally he got back home to where he was from,
Speaker 2: and he realized that everything was just being played on
Speaker 2: a loop. You know. Yes, it was beautiful and it
Speaker 2: was majestic, and he was essentially laying on a cloud
Speaker 2: and beautiful music was playing and these beautiful entities were
Speaker 2: all around him playing music twenty four to seven. He
Speaker 2: was like, Wow, this is great. But he said after
Speaker 2: being there for a few hours, he was like, is
Speaker 2: this all that it is? It's just this on a
Speaker 2: freaking loop over and over.
Speaker 1: That's what caused you to reincarnate.
Speaker 2: Because there's nothing else out there.
Speaker 1: It's just boring. I mean, you know, it's like so
Speaker 1: it's what it really is is there's two plasma clouds
Speaker 1: right out of the L five region, right outside the
Speaker 1: Earth or each they're called the Kordleski clouds. There are
Speaker 1: ten times bigger than the planet Earth. There's two of
Speaker 1: them and they're right next to each other. And I
Speaker 1: don't think that there's any planets anywhere that we've seen
Speaker 1: that have there's no planets that we've seen that have
Speaker 1: any plasma clouds around him, and so I think that's
Speaker 1: really where he goes and where people go in the
Speaker 1: afterlife and where they go with astral travel. And there's
Speaker 1: like planes of existence, just like Monroe says, right, there's
Speaker 1: a lower planes and higher plane, and each plane has
Speaker 1: got like a different arc texture, different music, different activity.
Speaker 1: And the lower ones are the loopy ones. The lower
Speaker 1: planes or where you're just looping. So the higher planes
Speaker 1: you're not looping as much. But the reason that you're
Speaker 1: looping in the lower planes. He didn't die, I got
Speaker 1: to say when he did this. He was just asked
Speaker 1: for projecting. So, but if you die and you're caught
Speaker 1: in the lower planes, it's because you didn't learn the
Speaker 1: right lessons that you were supposed to learn in your hair,
Speaker 1: and so they loop you so that you learn your lessons.
Speaker 1: If you do learn most of the lessons that you're
Speaker 1: supposed to learn here, then you get to go to
Speaker 1: the upper planes. The whole goal, of course, is to
Speaker 1: not go at all. It's a break free of reincarnation
Speaker 1: and the cycle of it, which is extremely difficult. It
Speaker 1: takes a lot of spiritual discipline and meditation. But that's
Speaker 1: the other thing I've been thinking about since I watched
Speaker 1: the film again the other day, is what is the
Speaker 1: spiritual ramifications of the Gate Program? You know, how how
Speaker 1: does this affect these kids' future spirituality? I mean, I've
Speaker 1: known the rejects, the ones that rejected the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and they're very spiritual people. Uh, but I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know the ones that got through that were, you know,
Speaker 1: with it, that wanted to do it. Charlie Kirk was
Speaker 1: in it, and he was a very spiritual person. So
Speaker 1: maybe it does create spiritual people, but you think it
Speaker 1: would also create spiritual wrecks, and it's just people that
Speaker 1: are just racked.
Speaker 2: Ye are the people that don't know what it is
Speaker 2: that they're supposed to be doing with their life there
Speaker 2: and like a really weird state Whi's then you know,
Speaker 2: brings them to this, uh, this this downfall of their life.
Speaker 2: They get involved in miscellaneous activity things that is not
Speaker 2: good for them spiritually. And I think that that's a
Speaker 2: really good question. I mean, we would have to do
Speaker 2: some kind of but I'm willing to bet if you
Speaker 2: were to do like a poll, because the issue is here, Jay,
Speaker 2: is that the people that actually made it through the program,
Speaker 2: that are in a not even that. It doesn't even
Speaker 2: have to be a high position of power. It doesn't
Speaker 2: even have to be the leader of a giant Cortney
Speaker 2: could literally be your freaking mailman. I think we might
Speaker 2: have a grandios idea of what might be actually going
Speaker 2: on here when it can be as simple as just
Speaker 2: a post office worker.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It can literally be that simple. The post office worker
Speaker 2: could be a government agent from the gate pro You
Speaker 2: just never know, right, Yeah, That's been the plan from
Speaker 2: the entire is to infiltrate into every aspect of reality.
Speaker 2: And the thing is is these people don't know what
Speaker 2: it is that they are either. And that's the problem
Speaker 2: with the people that made it through that are in
Speaker 2: the high up versions of this. They don't really care
Speaker 2: about any of this, right, They don't care about what
Speaker 2: they went through as because they're successful in their life
Speaker 2: and they have money and they've kind of been pushed
Speaker 2: in this direction. And that's what Charlie Kirk was starting
Speaker 2: to figure out towards the end, You're starting to figure
Speaker 2: out that, holy shit, what is actually going on here?
Speaker 2: Is my entire life been pre programmed for me? Have
Speaker 2: I been pre programmed and destined for this by and
Speaker 2: selected to do this? And that's one what I believe
Speaker 2: was going on with him there toward the end, he
Speaker 2: was realizing that his entire life was pre arranged and
Speaker 2: essentially predetermined for him by a group of people.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was on Jesse Venture's Conspiracy Theory show in
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. He flew me out to Denver
Speaker 1: because we did a tour of Denver Airport. I gave
Speaker 1: him a tour of Denver Airport. It was it was
Speaker 1: really fun and at one point I think we were
Speaker 1: at lunch, and he said that when he got elected
Speaker 1: to be governor of Minnesota, he only won with thirty
Speaker 1: five percent, but there was two other candidates, so they
Speaker 1: split it. He barely won. It was his first day
Speaker 1: in office as governor. He had a street up on
Speaker 1: the table and he smoking a cigar, probably had a
Speaker 1: brand with him, thinking even on the top of the world,
Speaker 1: and I'm a governor man. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: this little dwie Bok, little short guy, he says, Governor,
Speaker 1: you're wanted in a meeting down in the basement. He's
Speaker 1: like what, So he follows the guy that go down
Speaker 1: into the basement. This is what Jesse told them, And
Speaker 1: he goes down. There's this big room with this big,
Speaker 1: huge oval table. There's like forty people around this table.
Speaker 1: And he's like, look, He's like, what the hell's going on?
Speaker 1: And the little tweevy guy goes, uh, well, Jesse, this
Speaker 1: is the local CIA for Minneapolis and Saint Paul. And
Speaker 1: he's like, well, that can't be because the CIA is charters.
Speaker 1: They can't do anything domestically. The whole table broke out laughing,
Speaker 1: and he said there were post office workers and nuns, ups, drivers,
Speaker 1: they'd be really important to have, by the way, he
Speaker 1: said everyone he said none, He said, what was a
Speaker 1: nun You couldn't believe it? And they sat down at
Speaker 1: the head of it, and each one interrogated him for
Speaker 1: eight hours, and he was told by each one of
Speaker 1: the people what you're going to do over the next
Speaker 1: four years, and what you're not going to do over
Speaker 1: the next four years, and if you get out of line, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we want your kids to go to college.
Speaker 1: So you know, he says, like what and he said,
Speaker 1: told me that. He said, within twenty minutes of sitting
Speaker 1: down in that chair and having those people talk to
Speaker 1: me like that, I said, I am never running for
Speaker 1: office again. And he never did, so I know you're right,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, he learned a lot, and he
Speaker 1: learned that everywhere he went, and they wanted him to
Speaker 1: know that too, by the way. That's why they did it.
Speaker 2: Exactly. And then when you start to try and break
Speaker 2: away from that, I mean we see a lot of
Speaker 2: instance with that with you know, with Charlie Kirk, and
Speaker 2: they'll essentially try and completely take away your funding, take
Speaker 2: away your career character. Assassin h you make you look
Speaker 2: like that you're not an accurate trying to ruin your
Speaker 2: credibility and essentially destroy you to try and then but
Speaker 2: now the version of that is just to hire a
Speaker 2: bunch of bots. They'll just get a bunch of bots
Speaker 2: online to get on there and talk shit and attack
Speaker 2: you for absolutely no reason. That's the new version of
Speaker 2: what they were doing before.
Speaker 1: They're doing that on X right now with canvae Oh,
Speaker 1: and she's just getting absolutely slammed by people have never
Speaker 1: heard that before, so they seem to have a voice.
Speaker 1: It gets heard. But you remember the remember the journalist
Speaker 1: who crashed into the palm tree in La doing one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty mi an hour about ten years ago.
Speaker 1: He was on top of some really important subject and
Speaker 1: he called up I think his girlfriend said I've got it.
Speaker 1: I got to do this interview and then I've got
Speaker 1: the story of the century. And then like five minutes later,
Speaker 1: it's like they took control of his car right and
Speaker 1: they just slammed it into a tree. And it was
Speaker 1: an expensive car too, I think it was a Lamborghini.
Speaker 1: And so that's what they can do to you if
Speaker 1: you get out of line, and they want you to
Speaker 1: know that they can do that. To you. So, you know,
Speaker 1: you did really brave work here with this film. I
Speaker 1: just really appreciate the effort that you made, and I
Speaker 1: think it's going to do really well, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 2: I mean, even if you look at the that's the
Speaker 2: same type of story with the Danny Castlero murders as well.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he was on top of a
Speaker 2: story called it the Web, the Web of the Octopus
Speaker 2: or the you know, the Giant Octopus that involved this
Speaker 2: black Budgets CIA operation that was running off of Indian
Speaker 2: reservations that essentially started all this casino stuff that was
Speaker 2: in the human trafficking, guns, trafficking, money laundering that was
Speaker 2: responsible for all these different people. And then he ends
Speaker 2: up dead and he was going to do a final
Speaker 2: interview with the person that was going to put all
Speaker 2: this stuff together with him for him in West Virginia,
Speaker 2: and then he ends up dead. You know a lot
Speaker 2: of these people that they just died really weird and
Speaker 2: strange circumstances that make absolutely no sense, and they end
Speaker 2: up getting taken out in some kind of way because
Speaker 2: they've known too much or they were onto something, and
Speaker 2: then they just they just get wiped off of the
Speaker 2: board because that's the easiest way to really do it,
Speaker 2: and then you make them look like, oh, well, they
Speaker 2: hated their life, they were depressed, they were a drug addict.
Speaker 2: I mean, how many people have we seen that have
Speaker 2: just overdosed on drugs unexplainably, that did not have a
Speaker 2: prior history or have any kind of drug use issues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really true. The guy who wrote back in
Speaker 1: two thousand. Yeah, back in two thousand, a guy wrote
Speaker 1: a book called Fortunate Son, a biography of George W. Bush,
Speaker 1: and it was a nasty, nasty book. About three weeks
Speaker 1: after he got published, he committed suicide. Over and over again.
Speaker 1: You follow these stories and they like to do suicides,
Speaker 1: and you know, because that's what you would do after
Speaker 1: you got your book published, after you worked really hard
Speaker 1: to publish and write a book, and that you kill
Speaker 1: yourself after he got published, because now you're going to
Speaker 1: reap the rewards of all your hard work. So that's
Speaker 1: when you would take your life. So they're you know,
Speaker 1: that's what they do. And I guess what we should
Speaker 1: do is it's just on our guard for what's going
Speaker 1: on in this world right now. It's not good. So
Speaker 1: writer I really appreciate you making this movie. I am
Speaker 1: the executive producer, folks, you know, and I'm also in it.
Speaker 1: I really like the movie. I really think it's revolutionary.
Speaker 1: I love your filmmaking style, and wow, you got any
Speaker 1: ideas what you're gonna do next?
Speaker 2: Oh, I would love to do something on Charlie Kirk
Speaker 2: and the investigation around Charlie Kirk is It's just it
Speaker 2: gets so so ridiculously deep, and things are changing on
Speaker 2: it every single day. We're finding out new information, and
Speaker 2: I would really like to put together a comprehensive timeline
Speaker 2: of events, which is really a big undertaking. I mean,
Speaker 2: I thought that this movie was a big undertaking. I
Speaker 2: mean every movie kind of gets that I do, gets
Speaker 2: more difficult to put together and keep track of and
Speaker 2: try and make all the pieces fit. But that's one
Speaker 2: of the things that I love most about making a
Speaker 2: movie is is the editing process and watching the entire
Speaker 2: thing come together, because you get to see it come
Speaker 2: together right before your very eyes, and you get those
Speaker 2: chills when you're watching it and you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is then I'm gonna put this here. Then I'm
Speaker 2: gonna put that there. But it just takes a lot
Speaker 2: of time and effort and watching everything over and over
Speaker 2: and over again and knowing exactly what you have and
Speaker 2: being able to inter exchange those clips to try and
Speaker 2: make the whole thing makes sense and which is one
Speaker 2: of my favorite parts of filmmaking. And there's a lot
Speaker 2: of things within the movie that you're gonna have to remember.
Speaker 1: Okay, your film has to be watched three times.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, yeah, you gotta watch it a lot. And
Speaker 2: there's things that that are really important because I'm just
Speaker 2: not one of these people that like to repeat things
Speaker 2: twenty times. That's what I do not like about movies.
Speaker 2: I don't like all the exposition and over explaining in
Speaker 2: every single scene. Right, So you really have to sit
Speaker 2: down and pay attention and remember and connect a lot
Speaker 2: of the dots on your own and put them together
Speaker 2: on your own. Because everything is there, it all makes sense.
Speaker 2: You just have to kind of put it together yourself.
Speaker 2: And that's the best type of filmmaking that I really
Speaker 2: love is when not everything is given to you. I
Speaker 2: mean it's given to you, but it's not given to
Speaker 2: you all in one amazing You're not reminded of it
Speaker 2: every ten minutes, right, You don't have an exposition and
Speaker 2: re explaining the thing that you just explained.
Speaker 1: It's called respect for the intelligence of the viewer. Right.
Speaker 1: People that repeat repeat, well, they're thinking that you're a
Speaker 1: big dummy and they have to repeat it all the time.
Speaker 1: You don't do that, and I would I actually wouldn't
Speaker 1: like the film because I hate films that do that.
Speaker 1: But your film doesn't do that. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: novel moment. Every minute for the whole entire time that
Speaker 1: you're watching it, you're learning something constantly. Your visuals are great,
Speaker 1: your music is great, the guests are great. So I
Speaker 1: read it. It's a good film. Speaking of film, I've
Speaker 1: got good news that I'm making. The Invisible Universe will
Speaker 1: be out probably within six weeks. They're making it into
Speaker 1: two ninety minute films, no longer making it into a series.
Speaker 1: I heard that that was just the death to your
Speaker 1: film if you do that. So I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: But we are putting out two ninety minute films. It
Speaker 1: should be both out before the end of the year.
Speaker 1: And then, folks, I'm going to have my entire filmography
Speaker 1: up on Amazon and I'm going to own it for
Speaker 1: the first time since I sold it off to Gaia.
Speaker 1: I'm getting it all back from Guya, so I'll have
Speaker 1: Cubic's Odyssey one, two, and three. You can watch all
Speaker 1: three together for the first time. And arn't mind with
Speaker 1: Alex Gray healing the lum in his Body, Infinity, The
Speaker 1: Ultimate Trip, my film with Greg Braden. They're all coming
Speaker 1: out and they're going to come out under Cute Brick Productions,
Speaker 1: So I'm really happy about that one. And because I'm
Speaker 1: sure that Guya has made millions of dollars off my
Speaker 1: films anyway.
Speaker 2: They've had him for a long time. How long have
Speaker 2: they had him for the.
Speaker 1: Fourteen years yep ensince January fourteen years they had so
Speaker 1: it's probably triple maybe three or four million.
Speaker 2: I might know.
Speaker 1: They were always world My films were always in the
Speaker 1: top like one hundred, right, all of my films were
Speaker 1: always in the top hundred A guy at because I
Speaker 1: was ahead of acquisition, so I get to see the
Speaker 1: list every year. I said, oh, yeah, yeah, my.
Speaker 2: Film from I made ten years ago. It was still
Speaker 2: off pacing everything you sell it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, that's a great thing about documentaries. If you
Speaker 1: don't make them time related, like you don't, then they're
Speaker 1: they're timeless, so you can watch it ten years from
Speaker 1: now and get the same thing out of it. So
Speaker 1: that's what's so great about it. Anyway, writer, your film
Speaker 1: is up on Amazon and YouTube and probably soon will
Speaker 1: be on to me and Apple TV, we hope. But
Speaker 1: nothing is really gonna happen until you got it up,
Speaker 1: and you just got it up today, so you can't
Speaker 1: really expect anyone to see it until it's up. Now
Speaker 1: they'll take it. So it's really good and I congratulate
Speaker 1: you on a job well done.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much today. Really appreciate it. And uh,
Speaker 2: check the link in the description watch my movie. Jay
Speaker 2: is in it. Walter Bosley is also in a Katie
Speaker 2: Page is in it. Verified Army Intelligence, the IA remote
Speaker 2: viewers are in it. Limb Buchannon, Angela Ford, the director
Speaker 2: and operations manager of the Storegate unit himself Dell Graph.
Speaker 2: He's the one that coined the term stargate for the
Speaker 2: remote viewing unit. Please give it a watch, give it
Speaker 2: a listen, and uh, you know, carve out that time
Speaker 2: of your day and sit down for around two hours
Speaker 2: and uh, and I think that you're really going to
Speaker 2: enjoy it. And I think that you're really going to
Speaker 2: learn something and leave a review and a rating on
Speaker 2: Amazon Prime after you've watched it, and and be honest
Speaker 2: about it. I'm always about good and honest feedback. If
Speaker 2: it's you know, conducive to you know what we're doing.
Speaker 2: So thank you guys very much, really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Any money out theres and wants to find his Charlie
Speaker 1: Kirk movie, contact me in the comments and I will
Speaker 1: definitely get in contact with you. We could use any
Speaker 1: help we can because we want to get Writer's career
Speaker 1: going even faster. And I put the trailer up on
Speaker 1: Reality Check. So go up there and watch the trailer
Speaker 1: for the film. And thanks Writer, Thanks Jane, appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Segment three this evening is titled The Children and the CIA.
Speaker 1: Tonight we'll learn of the agency's interest in children. Part
Speaker 1: of the gate program where I was pulled out of
Speaker 1: the room by a guy in a suit.
Speaker 2: I went in and did like the different tones in
Speaker 2: the leftier tones and the right ear different, you know,
Speaker 2: raising your hand in.
Speaker 1: The weird things they had kids do is the strange liquid,
Speaker 1: that weird.
Speaker 2: Pink drink, that pink drink that you're always shoving down.
Speaker 1: So to really understand what I'm talking about, you have
Speaker 1: to go back to nineteen fifty eight. It's a spotneck.
Speaker 2: Nineteen fifty eight marked the first time government became involved
Speaker 2: with public school. With this new policy came identifying gifted
Speaker 2: and talented children.
Speaker 1: Who's gifted, who's talented, and taking them out and giving
Speaker 1: them different education. What that different education is cuts back
Speaker 1: to the Monroe Institute. You should be hearing my voice
Speaker 1: in your.
Speaker 2: Right ear until I heard those Gateway tapes and I
Speaker 2: was like, WHOA, this is very very similar.
Speaker 1: Whose gate programs are grooming people to take roles in society? Entertainers,
Speaker 1: corporate owners, Politicians.
Speaker 2: Discussed the fact that Charlie was indeed a gifted child
Speaker 2: who went to a literal children's at school for the gifted.
Speaker 2: But they're looking at you long before that.
Speaker 1: They are looking at you from childhood.
Speaker 2: The Thuds have a record file on every single child
Speaker 2: from preschool to your career.
Speaker 1: Your Laxation program by Thomas H. Bodinski, PhD. Here they are,
Speaker 1: Could they and would they have just advanced to making.
Speaker 2: Psychics like testing for esp abilities.
Speaker 1: You could go to scary places with that.
Speaker 2: Do you know anybody else that has these days.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know anybody else in the program.
Speaker 2: You know, they have a front for a front for
Speaker 2: a front, So what are they covering up?
Speaker 1: Could have been.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you're not crazy. The government really was doing psychic
Speaker 2: testing on children, and I am going to prove it.
Speaker 1: H you're finally starting out. Remember you should be hearing
Speaker 1: my voice. You should be hearing my voice. You should
Speaker 1: be hearing my voice. In your right ear the Gate
Speaker 1: program m.