Speaker 1: Are we good to go there at gear Bear? Okay?
Five forty nine, Jesus, that is the last episode is
gonna be episode five point fifty.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's pretty good time. That's good. I know
you didn't. Oh shit, nice.
Speaker 1: Here's a clear Who podcast episode five forty nine. I'm
brandom here with Toby. Never talk about some storm decks now?
Are just trying to do the old Uh who's that
guy from Police Academy that like he did all the
sounds himself?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that's Mike. He was on America's Got
Talent and that's all I remember him from. No shit, really, yeah,
he went on there and doing the exact same thing.
And then he like won a Golden Buzzer and almost won,
and I was like, that's kind of bullshit. He did
a whole movie do it well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we already know that, We already know that
you can make money doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, I don't think he won one, but he
got very close to winning. Was like, we have three
movies of this, three four at the very least, at
the very least the cartoon series.
Speaker 1: You have a fucking action figure alone himself. You wound
a little he wound his arm and.
Speaker 2: I assume he lost all his money, and then he
was like, fuck, I gotta do something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta show that I'm still sweet somehow. Man.
You know how else you can show how sweet yard
I stand? Crazy bullshit? Like, Hey, Toby, We're back here
for another whirlwind adventure.
Speaker 2: How you doing, I'm doing great? What is going down?
So excited to be here?
Speaker 1: There it is, whole bunch is going down. We're gonna
talk about the second to last guild in our arc
of evolution, where we look at the color combination slash
mono colors from twenty nineteen before the influx of the
infamous and insidious universes beyond it ruined magic for everyone forever,
and then compare them to the top ten list of
today in the same colors and see what's changed today?
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The observant listeners listeners viewers on YouTube where you could
be watching, which you should be. Thanks Toby. You'll notice
that I have Toby here instead of Ryan. Ryan is
off playing baseball being super athlete guy with our buddy
fu Aiden and and our resident CDCH enjoyer, Toby offered
to come in too. Would you say this is the
of the two color combinations? Is is it the kind
of CDH one or is this just the one that
you like the most?
Speaker 2: This is the one I like the most. It is
for the two color combos, I would I think is
the most common to see in CDH out of the two.
Most of the time you're gonna see three or four colors.
So out of the two colors, that say, it's probably
the most CDH.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean Blue obviously probably makes the most appearances. Yeah,
and while people feel OHRD as well, but I mean,
Red's got some shit in it.
Speaker 2: Red's really good. That's really good. It's got all the
rituals you can make lots of man at good times.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And you got to turn one deflecting swat turn.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well it's also Yeah, it's got raw rack aka
the best commander ever printed.
Speaker 1: That can only do that in Red baby underworld.
Speaker 2: Breach, which is probably the best CDH card.
Speaker 1: There you go see, and we're do you think we're
going to talk about any decks today? Told me that
could have an underwear breach in them. Do you think
like just ballpark it for me. Do you think we're
gonna talk about two decks today? They play Underworld Breach.
Speaker 2: I'd be surprised if we talked about less than.
Speaker 1: Six, oh shit out of twenty we no, I guess
it was. It wasn't printed until the last ten, So
six out of ten you think would have an Underworld
Breach in.
Speaker 2: It at least? Yeah, I mean, Kreelistically, you're in red.
You could just jam like sometimes I play Underworld Breach
for value.
Speaker 1: This guy value Underworld Breach, great Value, Value creator hoof Behemoth. Yeah,
it's just there because I have guys.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean, I just I got a
swing in for I'll draw a card when I hit you,
because that's the blue thing. Ah, Yes, of course I
give them. It's just to give trample, So I draw
my card.
Speaker 1: Well, of course, yes, naturally, the seventy damage that you
took on this side, it's just a happy accident, as
Bob Ross would say, yes, or meat when I poop in.
Speaker 2: My pants or somebody else's pants that has also happened.
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Speaker 1: See and Toby wouldn't lie because he doesn't have any hair,
And if he was to lie, you might pull what's
left out.
Speaker 2: That'd be tough, tough.
Speaker 1: There's some stubble there. If I got some wax, I
could probably hurt your head real bad. Did you ever
see forty year old vigiin where they turn him into
a man o lantern? Yes, that was his real chest hair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's insane, that's crazy fat.
Speaker 1: Man like Steve Carell, hard as fuck. Hey, but like.
Speaker 2: They were getting patches.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine like that would oh man, like I'm
we probably have. Gary probably has body hair like we do,
though meaning not very much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like he had he had a rug. He had
an absolute rug. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've seen dudes have like prickly back hair poking out
of their shirt and ship. One time I thought I
saw a guy that had like one of those like
under the like neck beard.
Speaker 2: I guess that's what it's called.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't his neck beard. He was just fat
and his chest hair was poking out of his shirt.
Speaker 2: Was god.
Speaker 1: Oh, and I couldn't stop looking at it after that.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you didn't just see like a bear in
human clothes.
Speaker 1: Maybe and they just shaved his face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, bears do look.
Speaker 1: Weird with no hair. Yes, that's a strange thing. We
have weird. Way off top of that rhymes listening, just going,
you fucking guys, you pieces of human shit. So we're
gonna start off in the I've already defined what the
arc of evolution is yep, so we're gonna move forward
with that today, is it? This is the symbol that
I draw an MS paint from memory and then Ryan
tells me why it looks like a butthole today He's
not here, Tobe. You see a butthole and that isn't symbol. Also,
did I get close? I don't look at a thing.
I do it from memory. I think that's what it is, right.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that's close. It does look like an
angry chicken.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of due.
Speaker 2: It does. No butthole today, just angry chicken. I think,
I mean.
Speaker 1: You could probably like if it was a a marrial
eid of some kind, I could see it excess arizing
a butthole like no King shaming in the nation. But
it does have the just jagged edges.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like me like, yeah, I mean, we'll see what
it looks like when the colors flip. It might look
like more of a butthole then, yeah, maybe like we'll
right right now, angry chicken. Okay, all right, I'm an
angry chicken. Yeah, so so far.
Speaker 1: We're what there's ten, so we're eight buttholes in a chicken. Yes, man,
that sounds like something you shouldn't order for a bachelor party.
Speaker 2: Hey, or maybe you do order that.
Speaker 1: I suppose I probably watched that movie Gary show us
the first Card of Them Jury and Ruined Diver.
Speaker 2: I I don't know if you guys remember this. When
I the very first time I came on this show,
we discussed my journey magic. This was my very first
Commander deck. No shit, this this card right here is
still to this day one of my favorite magic cards
ever printed. Oh my god, So you should probably tell
the people what it does.
Speaker 1: I guess it's a two three RF folk wizard for
notorias is. It is end one and it says one
line of text whenever you cast your second spell each
turned draw card.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome. It's it's everything I love. It's just
do a thing, gain a thing, and it's just simple.
Nobody misinterprets it. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: So it's just for a commander, Like, isn't this a
little well? Also, we should we should bread protests. Were
you playing magic into twenty nineteen?
Speaker 2: No, That's why I really wanted to come on and
do this because I have no idea what people were
doing in twenty nineteen. Okay, excellent, zero zero idea. I
played a little bit in twenty fifteen, never played commander,
then quit for a decade, and so this is during
no clue, no clue what you guys were doing. This
is great. This makes me happy that this was this.
We will never see this today, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way this makes the top ten of now.
Speaker 2: No zero chance. Yes, but I wish it would.
Speaker 1: Last week, me and Ryan talked about at the end
of the show, are we going to see like we
were kind of okay, we're going to see all this
civic bullshit. It's going to be draw card, play, a
land play, a land draw card, play a land draw card,
gain of Life. Right, it's gonna be some combination of
those cards. Today, we said, okay, and is it. We're
going to see play as many instance and source reads
as you possibly can. Yep, plus draw card. Do you
think that's what this card basically says? This is a
counter magic, lots of instance, lots of spell slinger, play
stuff on your opponent's turns to gain value. Do you
think that this is basically what the whole list is
going to be today?
Speaker 2: I think I'm not sure about twenty nineteen. I'll be
excited to see. I think the newer stuff we're gonna
see like fork like probably just a little under half
does that? I think? Is it has some newer stuff
we got. I got a couple of universes beyond things
that I think might change it up a little bit.
I think it's not all gonna be spouse Player will
be very very heavy spell slayer. Yeah, Okay, we're gonna
We're gonna see quite a bit of storm decks.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see if we see uh an agro deck,
big fatties, big fatties. Let's see if we can do that.
We'll see Gary. Next card please, Nin the Pain Artist.
This is the first commander out of a Commander pre
con that I built.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so.
Speaker 1: Ni the pain Artist. See if you can guess why
Ni the Pain Artist is a one to one or
is it? And then for is it?
Speaker 2: And X and tap her.
Speaker 1: She deals x damage to target creature. That creature's controller
draws X cards.
Speaker 2: Oh it's a burn deck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, that uses your mana to waste
your little dude and ship the cards. Yeah, that's the deck.
Speaker 2: Oh we didn't actually, we forgot to say it on
the just popularity. This one doesn't have the date stamp.
Jorian did have a date stamp on it.
Speaker 1: It did, Yes, you didn't have a date stamp twenty sixteen, Yes, yep, yep,
just so.
Speaker 2: No where I know you guys be keeping track of that.
So we got one, so far.
Speaker 1: Got one and yeah, rent Rin or Nin I should say,
was from the first run a Commander decks. It was
in the giving stuff away like the.
Speaker 2: Goat, oh, the jet skuy goat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the deck she comes from. And I think
she's a Farrexi and at no, she's a Fordelsion. Huh.
Speaker 2: Secondary we've had two wizards already.
Speaker 1: I'm shocked. Yeah, I'm sure I am amazed by that.
Might see a few more, maybe, maybe, possibly so Again,
this is a deck that focused on puddings dudes into
plant of your control that you didn't give a shit
if they died or hoped that they died. Then you
dump a bunch of your countermanner that you didn't use
on your opponent's turn to sack your little shitty guy.
Let's use a solemn simula chrum as an example to
draw an ass load of cards to do the zori
the is it thing. I'm gonna call it azorius all day,
and I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: You could also, I guess you could like steal your
opponent's stuff and then alt that because you control it,
you could do that as well. Yeah that seems pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, you could do that.
Speaker 2: Okay, seems good.
Speaker 1: Gary, next card. Ah, we have our first partner pair. Now,
these guys I know we're still around because there was
a whole secret layer about them. I think this was
the was this the first secret layer that they printed?
That was the whole deck. The coin flip one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh is that the first one? Probably let us
know in the comments.
Speaker 1: So it's o'cuon and Zinder Split. I will tell you
what they do momentarily. So o'cun came out in twenty eighteen.
We can tell because there's a date stomp on it.
He's a three to three four five, one of which
is red. When it comes into play, you can find
Zinder Split and put him into your hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, partners, you get it into hand, but he's also
gonna be the command zone, so you're going to fail
to find.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or or you can make your opponent shuffle with it,
which is pretty fun. Nice brainstorm, asshole, and it says
at the beginning of combat, on your turn, flip a
coin until you lose a flip. Whenever any player wins
a coin, flip double ocoon's power and toughness into end
of turn.
Speaker 2: One of the guys that are Monday Magic Group has
the stick as well. It's pretty fun, pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it pounds asses.
Speaker 2: If he's lucky. I've seen it go very poorly.
Speaker 1: Oh, I have certainly seen this just.
Speaker 2: Oh, he has absolutely one tap me with it. I've
also seen him lose four coin flips immediately on his
next four turns and then nothing happened.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I definitely used to run this in Brutoclaud
when I had more of a clone ish sub theme
before I decided to go full on seven Dwarves and
this and zinder Split were kind of my guys, so
i'd have six of him, oh yeah, and the odds
of me missing six times pretty frick and low. So
people were eating a lot of shit. Let's see what
was zinder split? Did there? Gary?
Speaker 2: There's another guy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So this is the blue half of our is it?
Partner pairing also has the thing it costs five you
get blue for a one four hormunculous. This one says
the beginning of combat. On your turn, flip a coin
until you lose a flip. Whenever a player wins a flip,
draw card.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, so the the red side hits you in
the blue side draws a card. Oh my god, who
didn't see that coming?
Speaker 1: Holy shit? Wow over Undertoby. Do you think I still
run this one in Britoklen Yeah? Your goddamn right, I do,
of course, yeah I do. I'm not stupid. I know
what's going on. I just got tired of like one
tapping people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1: Zinder Split still comes in for for one and then
draws a bunch of cards. He is excellent, very good.
And again it's a card that it's a deck that
absolutely kind of builds itself. Right, I guess I'm gonna
play my guys with manna that I make quick, possibly
with rituals. Then I'm going to attack into you and
refill my hand and probably kill you.
Speaker 2: Yeah seems good.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill you outright and refill my hand to
kill the next person next to you.
Speaker 2: We got a little bit of funnily enough, we got
coin flipping support cards and final Fantasy as well. There's
actually new cards in that.
Speaker 1: Fuctal fantasy that don't google that. Actually, I'll bet you
that's the was the rule thirty eight.
Speaker 2: Or rule forty two, rule thirty four?
Speaker 1: Rule thirty four?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't look into why I knew that so quick?
I shall think about that.
Speaker 1: Tania turtles baby, it exists, all right? Next card? Gary,
what what?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That's checks out? Oh come on, then yeah, that
checks out.
Speaker 1: It's another one of these. Okay, it's not only ship
Bag theros gods, which I've been complaining about for weeks,
and why do they belong here? Toby's gonna explain this
one to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, six to five, five for five?
Speaker 1: Is it involved? It's an indestructible as long as your
devotion is less than seven to these colors, it's not.
A dude has reveal the first card you draw on
each of your turns. Whenever you reveal a land card
this way, draw card, whenever revella non land card re
damage to target, creature or player.
Speaker 2: That's that's just I mean, you're gonna urn? Is it? So?
I'm gonna play, I'm gonna do land play. I don't know.
Let's say, opt scry one, draw a card also, no,
I don't even need to. It's so I'm gonna start
my turn, immediately, reveal a card, gonna probably either burn
somebody or draw a second card. Then I'm gonna play
a land I'm gonna say go, and then it's gonna
be your turn.
Speaker 1: But he's not in play yet. Come into play on
turn five.
Speaker 2: Oh we're in red. He's on playing turn like two.
Speaker 1: Are we playing CDH or we just playing magic?
Speaker 2: We're just playing magic?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, okay, Okay, Yeah, we're.
Speaker 2: Just I mean, turn two to three, We're just gonna
piratic ritual play them, okay. And then every turn after that,
I'm gonna play a cantrip and I'm either gonna burn
you or might just draw even more cards.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: And then the minute you try and interact with him,
he's never dying to a board wipe, that's true. He's
never becoming a creature, very true.
Speaker 1: Probably.
Speaker 2: And then anytime you try and do anything to me,
I am going to say no, thank you, get days idiot,
oh wow, or I'm gonna athorize you.
Speaker 1: He is.
Speaker 2: He's this is like a very hardcore land Go commander.
Speaker 1: Okay, And it's all about so we're talking top deck manipulation,
lots of scrying. Perhaps I would just I mean fate ceiling.
Speaker 2: I don't even think you need that. You just rear
and blue you got. I can name probably five different
one blue like cantrips that just say surveil draw, scry draw.
Speaker 1: Is three damage worth that? Like if you're gonna staple
a lightning bolt.
Speaker 2: To an opt yeap?
Speaker 1: Does that is that the deck? Like is that you
want to do? I don't know, man like I've never
seen this. This is a commander before. I've heard about him.
Speaker 2: I've played against him a couple of times. Yeah, it's
pretty much. You just take all your cantrips and now
they're bolts. And if I do that every turn, that
seems pretty good. Okay, and then you're probably also running. Oh,
I don't know all the guys who say your spells
cost one less, who say when you cast a spell,
make a dude when you.
Speaker 1: Well, that's gonna be in all of these guys why
they don't know if karen Os is that like, is
he a build around guy or is he just a
I'm doing fucking red and blue shit and I want
to have something.
Speaker 2: People love those, so I think that just immediately bumps
them into the top seven.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's just this is where playing is that let's
play the ZiT thing because gods are sweet.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's indestructible, immediate, like it's you could really
shell this however you want for your is it stuff? Sure,
but then I have an immediate every time I draw
a land, I can dig a little deeper to not
get a land, and then he's indestructible, So I'm not
casting my commander for the eighteenth time in a game.
Speaker 1: So, Gary, where are we out of the list of
this is number? Is this seven? Okay? So it's so
we hit Kroens. Okay, that's do it real fast. Okay,
So we have one Joran and a Coon and Zinder split?
Speaker 2: Yeah seven?
Speaker 1: Seven?
Speaker 2: Have we six?
Speaker 1: We've seen four commanders?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So far?
Speaker 1: Could you play the exact same deck with any four
of them? And when anything changed?
Speaker 2: Really? Like really, besides the coin flip ones, you had some.
Speaker 1: Coin flip ovius, there's a Croc's thumb and the coin
flip one.
Speaker 2: I think the coin flip one's the only unique one,
like is it from? I think in twenty nineteen was
very We're here to cast spells and guess what I'm
gonna cast? Thirty?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so so far we've lived up to
the exact type that we put on this color pairing.
All right, let's see the next one. Gary, Oh shit,
Oh I had this guy.
Speaker 2: This guy looks awesome. I've never seen it.
Speaker 1: I fucking love this card. Check this out. It's a
Sphinx wizard Wizard Okay, yeah, five five for six to it?
Which is isn't with flying? Is it's a sphinx, and
it says, whenever you cast a spell, put all the
cards in your hand on the bottom of your library
any order, then draw that many cards. This guy rims
so he puzzle boxes you every time you do anything.
I've fucking loved this. I've killed myself with this deck
so many times because you get greedy. It's like, every
time you would draw card, drop two cards instead. So
you play one spell, you have five cards in your hand,
she'd draw ten cards, and then you play another spell
and you drop fucking cards. Then you draw another one
you got forty, and then you die. That's drawing yourself
to death.
Speaker 2: It is that.
Speaker 1: It's cool, man. I liked it. I have no idea
how it was supposed to work the way I did it.
Speaker 2: I think that's how it's supposed to work. But then
at a certain point you go here the five cards
I win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean there's certainly stuff now, like when
you draw a card, deal of damage to everybody that
didn't exist?
Speaker 2: Right when did the new visits start flying off? Oh?
Speaker 1: I guess nevisit was there, but he was so many
goddamn dollars and only hit one thing. Like you still
have to draw, Like the amount of cards you have
to draw is like the math was very difficult to
draw enough cards to kill everybody and not yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just there'd have to be a way you
just shuffle. That isn't time twisters that you shuffle your
hand and deck together then draw seven cards and start
doing it again.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, And you gotta do it just the right time.
So that's it's a hard it's a tricky one to do.
Speaker 2: So feels like if you're not doing that, it is
just probably a twenty minute turn because you gotta go, okay, well,
now I got to look at my new ten spells
cast one. You got to look my new ten spells.
Gotta look at my new ten spells.
Speaker 1: So that was the thing I didn't like about it.
It was just too much dirtily drug. Because if you
have a hand that's just a bunch of bunks, or
you have three things in your hand that you need,
you're like a fuck, I can play one of these
and then I know it's on the bottom for sure,
and I can't tutor it to the top because then
you and you immediately lose it again. So like it's
a it's a tricky deck to play, and it's kind
of I don't want to say disheartening, but that's what
I found with it, where it's like, fuck, I.
Speaker 2: Can't is the trigger to do that? Does it hit
the stack or just immediately.
Speaker 1: Do it it hits the stack?
Speaker 2: Okay, because I was I was thinking you could.
Speaker 1: But the spell doesn't resolve before you get to it.
Speaker 2: Was just saying, you have to like stack up three
spells if you want to play all three of them,
then do the thing I think. Okay, yeah, yeah, all right,
that's the deck.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, it's neat but hard to do. But I
don't know. You might enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm I might. I might try this, lots of
I might. I might give this a go.
Speaker 1: I think I have a couple of these kicking around
the house if you ever decide you want one, though, Yeah, okay,
twenty eight cents. You could pay twenty six cents at
Fusion Gaming online dot com. Okay, especially home colde Cco Nation.
Get yourself a shirt for your pat with your face
on it. What's the next one? Gary?
Speaker 2: Oh? Fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Top five? Baby brute Clad tells your engineer my personal
favorite fucking is it?
Speaker 2: Guy.
Speaker 1: He's a four to four for six artificer. I think
he's a Ferrexxian now too, right, Yes, I think that
they they.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it does Ferrexian on there. Yeah, he's a
Ferrexian for.
Speaker 1: Sure, because I got his original printing. All these so
creature tokens we control have haste at the beginning of combat.
On your turn, U Greedy two to one blue mirror
artifact creature token. I think it's a Ferrexxian mirror. Now,
choose a token you control. If you do, each other
token you control becomes a copy of that token. Bruta
clad in the Seven Dwarves is one of my more
popular decks. You can check it out on my architect
if you want. Cecio Brando, I love this commander. I
like that it's the it's the only is it agro
deck I could find?
Speaker 2: I think this is the only is it agro deck?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rent is fucking real good.
Speaker 2: I mean in this this leaves so like you can
do so many things with this thing. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't even have to be an agro deck.
You could make it, use it to make treasures by
making crap tokens, or like oh, I'll make a food,
I'll make a scrap, I'll make a whatever the power stone,
all these stupid things.
Speaker 2: But say now, we have also access to stuff like
flash photography, where oh I get a token copy of
literally anything like a seven dwarf. Like a seven dwarf,
like I could just turn all my tokens into islands.
Speaker 1: Yes you can do that, yes, yeah, yep, there's sure.
Speaker 2: There's way better things to do, but that sounds awesome.
Speaker 1: I have certainly turned mine into indestructible manner rocks so
that you can't kill them until I can find a
way to get a seven dwarf token, or even better,
a brash taunter token. Oh two, fuck you in the
face until your lips fall off. Yeah, and then your
butthole is in the dirt because it's looking for your lips,
because your hands are busy going because you're getting you
get it.
Speaker 2: Is that what he's doing. That's why he's looking down.
He's looking for your buttle.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's exactly.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Okay, have you ever played my britic clad deck?
Speaker 1: No, all, baby, you're gonna yeah, it's pretty good. It's
pretty good deck. Pretty good. I'm happy to see him
in the top ten, then I guess, oh fuck me,
ooh oh, get off, ooh, son of them. Another wizard,
another wizard. This one's a goblin. You think I'd be pumped?
Have you? Have you ever heard of this card before? Tobe?
Speaker 2: You know, no idea?
Speaker 1: Okay, let me hit you with this, Let me hit
you with this. Let me let me read this to
your goblin wizard two two for four Yeah, okay. Whenever
you cast an interest or sorcery spell with converted man
of cost greater than the number of experience counters you have,
you get an experience counter. Awesome, it's pretty good. Hey, Sam,
I like experience, Instance and sorcery spells you cast cost
one less to cast for each experience counter you have.
Can you guess what this deck does? Toby?
Speaker 2: Well, I know what I'm doing with it, what you're
doing with it. I'm casting expropriate and copying it eighteen
times because all my copy spells cost one red.
Speaker 1: Now that's right. You know what you did back then?
Speaker 2: Probably the exact same thing. X trespass X.
Speaker 1: Spells and extra turns.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's yep.
Speaker 1: So it was earthquakes and extra turns, is what this deck.
Speaker 2: Was Yeah that sounds about right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, and that's what it was every time because
you because X is now you can pay red and
you're earthquakeing for eight or whatever the hell you're doing,
and then you're temporal trespassing for two and you're walking
the AONs for three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this doesn't this, this isn't doing it for me, guys,
Like an is it? Like I love I love Storm,
Like even my creature decks I've somehow turned into Storm
decks but with creatures. And then yeah, no, the same
saying this seems almost too easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it just it solves it for your Yeah right,
it's just this is the only one that we we
outlawed our local, our local uh like house friend group.
We just not I don't want to play that.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 1: It's like now I don't want to do it.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to. I'm I'm gonna think of a
way that I can make this maybe interesting, But I don't.
Speaker 1: I'd say I don't think you can. Man, Like there's
been a maybe maybe you can, because like enough stupid
instance and sorceries have been printed, but most of them
that costs ten do one of two things. They're either
old and Red and reset the game yep. Or they
say take an extra turn or some number of extra
turns on them yep. And that's what they did before.
So why are are you gonna you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds about red.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play Star of Extinction for one. I mean
that's cool, but like, is it worth it? You know
what I mean? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So are we still we're still on kind of the
storm train?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh I this color pairing is going to be
all storm, which I love. But I mean this, this
is the least interesting of all of them.
Speaker 1: Dang. And we're number four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in the top three. I think it's just
because he's broken.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just too good, but we never see him anymore.
Speaker 2: This guy's fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: You know this guy?
Speaker 2: I know this guy for sure.
Speaker 1: Date stamped there It is twenty seventeen. The Locust God
is a four to four for six with flying. Whenever
you draw cards, you get a one to one red
end blue insect creature token with flying in haste and
then it has what is that four draw card? Then
discard a card and when he dies to return it
to the hand.
Speaker 2: You return to hand at next ends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it comes from your bin to your hand
at the beginning of the next end step.
Speaker 2: This guy will see again for sure. Absolutely, I run
into this guy cons frequently. This guy will see for sure.
He's a house. He's awesome, he's very good.
Speaker 1: And again he's doing the is it thing that you
want to do with some red mixed in because you're
still attacking with dudes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, it's it's just it's blue red. We're drawing cards,
we're casting spells. We're gaining value from drawing cards and
casting spells.
Speaker 1: So in this deck, would you say that you just
have like a blue suite with your interactions to an
interaction aside? Would the core of the deck be like
just a bunch of blue draw stuff and then a
bunch of red stuff to make your attacking creatures bigger
to try and kill with insects? Or is it another
storm deck?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you're doing it byce You're making the
insects by storming, for sure, because that's just you're you're
gonna want to There's a lot so many good blue
spells that just like as you cast more you draw
more cards. I bet this would be more of almost
like an impact Tremor's deck or stuff like that. Yeah,
I bet this would be like token burn.
Speaker 1: Okay, I dig that. I think that's the way is
a six man a commander?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Nowadays, you think you were still gonna see this guy
doing the same deck. It would be the same thing. Right,
We're gonna play impact, we're gonna drop cards, we're gonna
stomp guys out with little dudes. Do you think that's
is that good enough?
Speaker 2: Today?
Speaker 1: Again, not speaking to CDH, just in general.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll keep the CDH off the table until I
see one of those commanders. I think he is interesting enough,
and you cheat on the commander tax. He just usually
just goes back to hand unless somebody actually like swords
it or something. That's the truth, so he doesn't quite
die to a board white right. I have actually still
within the past like years, so I've definitely seen him
a few times. I think he's just cool and people
like him, people like God's he does something interesting. He's
got a lot of words people like on him, so
I think you could still see him.
Speaker 1: He's a two legged grasshopper.
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, the picture is awesome, and I think he's
gotten some pretty cool reprints and some fun foils and stuff.
That's the truth. I think he isn't gonna be the
house that he once was, but we definitely will still
see him.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, it's number two Gary Shit. Okay, yeah,
have you seen this lady before? Do you know her? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I know this lady.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's I mean a little bit different than what.
Speaker 2: We've been talking about. So yeah, it does, it is different.
Speaker 1: This does switch it up a little bit. So this
is this is joyro Weatherlight Captain three three for four.
Whenever you cast a historic spell, draw card, artifacts, legendaries,
and sagas are historic. So I wonder what we're gonna
do here, Toby, tell him what we're gonna do here.
Speaker 2: We're gonna play every zero drop artifact you've ever seen,
and we are going to draw our entire deck in
a singular turn.
Speaker 1: Wow, Like yeah, yeah, that's the deck. That's what the
deck is. And you mean you could do it a
couple of different ways. You could do like, oh, this
is my artifacts whatever deck, which you'll never convince anybody
isn't some kind of Rube Goldberg combo deck.
Speaker 2: Right, even if it isn't, it's two like artifacts when
you when you have your commander that just says draw card.
Every time you play in artifacts artifacts, well I guess
you have to cast the artifact. Oh no, such a
big hoop.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Artifacts discount more artifacts, which discount more artifacts. So by
the end, even your five drop artifactors who I'm play
for free? Play that draw card, play that one for free,
draw card.
Speaker 1: And you could do is it legends? But I mean,
you know what, based on what we've seen so far,
you could play is it Legendaries, and your whole deck
would be pure symmetry. Yeah, the most symmetrical deck of
all time. Fuck, who needs Joe to the unifier When
you have Joyra Weatherlight Captain.
Speaker 2: She goes in that deck for sure, absolutely goes in
that deck.
Speaker 1: She does that house.
Speaker 2: That deck. That deck rips you apart.
Speaker 1: And you could say, oh, I want to play is
it Sagas, No, you don't. You're lying to yourself and
to me by saying that. Yeah, don't do that. Don't
lie to yourself. You can lie to lots of people,
but you can't lie to yourself. That's some CEO wisdom
right there. Yeah, Gary, let's see the number one. Oh yeah,
there is there is.
Speaker 2: Of course, we can see exactly when he came out.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, well this is number one, or this is
number one. We's number one on the list. But it's
like the third niv misit I think. I think this
is nim misic three.
Speaker 2: There are four, I think so because there was a
new The newest one was in Foundations.
Speaker 1: There's the there's the five color one.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: Here's the first one that goes that combos and kills
two people with curiosity, and then there's this one, and
then I can't think of the other one.
Speaker 2: This one kills everybody with curiosity, and.
Speaker 1: There's two of them that kill everybody with curiosity. This
is the better one.
Speaker 2: This is the better one. I'm pretty sure this is two.
Speaker 1: It might be two.
Speaker 2: Because there's n Visit Reborn. Then there's this one. Then
I think there's one in the middle that nobody really plays.
Speaker 1: Probably there's new Missitt fire mind. That's the first one.
Speaker 2: Oh no, this is three then, because then the newest
one is ingenuity or something. He came out in Foundations.
I cracked the fancy version of him.
Speaker 1: Oh that's fun. Yeah, Smithy used to play this guy.
Speaker 2: He still does.
Speaker 1: What a piece of shit? It's five or five, can't
be counter dragon Wizard for blue, Blue, Blue, Red, Red,
red Flying. Whenever you draw card, it deals one damage
to anything. Whenever a target cast interest the sorcery spell
you draw card.
Speaker 2: Yep, just anybody, not even you, just anybody cast ins
in or sorcery.
Speaker 1: So he's the engine, he's the motivation, and he's the
wind condition all on one card.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's everything you could possibly need a commander deck
all stapled into one. And this is the only time
I will ever advocate for doing this. Oh, this is
actually a poison commander. You just put grafted exoskeleton on it.
I don't want to watch you storm off for twenty minutes.
Make it so you storm off for ten minutes and
just kill me with the poisons in half the time.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yep, this is this is the only
time I'll advocate for just go full poison build. This
is this is the guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that that could be done, but
I mean again, it's I hate it sounds like we're
just not even respecting these commanders, respouncing past them. But
they're all the same. They've all been to spell Slinger
and they're the same spells we're.
Speaker 2: Slinging and this done. Guy, I love spell Slinger, like
this is this is my favorite color pairing of all time. Like,
love love a lot of these cards. Yeah, just it's
just it's hard to be like, ooh, this one's different,
this one's different. They're really not that different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I stretched pretty hard to make all the
Gruel commanders feel different. Uh, this one's elseling so hard
it makes you win for your opponents doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. The one thing that makes this card at
least a little fair is just that manocost is crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like six.
Speaker 1: Hard pips is marginally more difficult to do, and you
can't use a sol ring to help you cast them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. This, this deck, it is. This one earns a
little bit of my respect because you do have to
actually have some thought in your brain to make it work,
because you actually have to think about lance.
Speaker 1: Until it comes into play and then you can see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you just it's a curiosity.
Speaker 1: You're dead, or somebody goes, I'll play this and like,
hang on, let me see if I draw my counter
spells and then you do, and then you draw another
one off of the one that you played. It's a
whole thing. I don't We're assuming you're playing forty five
counter spells and you don't always have to do that.
But everybody who sees you playing nive NIV visit Perune assumes. Yes,
everybody assumes that.
Speaker 2: I just assume you're playing cantrips. Really, yeah, I mean fairness.
You sit down with the is a deck, I'm like, cantrips.
Speaker 1: Why why do you need to.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's the the is it mine? So I
want it. Instead of casting one big splashy thing, I
want to cast thirty less splashy things. But I get
value from all of them.
Speaker 1: We get value for our opponents. Shit, it's like, yeah,
I'm gonna cultivate. Yeah, sweet, thanks for the card the
kid and they go, oh, I'm gonna kill this other
problematic guy for some reason, not being ni visit Prune.
Oh don't draw that clip.
Speaker 2: Yes, one of the things you target him with your
sowurds to plowshares, and then yes, I top deck my counterspell.
No you don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll readirect that back to you, asshole, because I'm
playing Red.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're playing Red. Yep. The bolt bends yeah right, damn.
And he has power more than force. That bolt bend
is one manna.
Speaker 1: Yes, And he swings for five and he swings for five,
which is I mean, that's not very good. That's like
a five pump chump. That's that's just sad man.
Speaker 2: You're in Red, though, I guess you could. You could
make him big, boy?
Speaker 1: Are you playing big stuff? To make your guy big?
In this particular situation? Can trips cantrips and pump spells?
Speaker 2: Is that the I think that could actually be a
fun way to build this cantrips and pump.
Speaker 1: Spells instead of CounterPunch, it's just punch cantra punch.
Speaker 2: Ooh, there we go. That's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah like that. So there we solved it. Nive visit
Perune first time ever CCO.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wait, what was the card we were talking about that?
Does it go in all these decks? Underwear Breach? How
many decks so far would underwear Breach have gone in?
Were it printed in twenty nineteen?
Speaker 2: All of them?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: I honestly ten of ten? If you're here's my thing.
If you're in Red and you have just an extra
copy of Underworld Breach Laning rund. I just slam it
in anything, even brute clad. Yeah, because once you remove
my thing I make toe, then I have like my
realm sketching and whatever that make token copy of thing.
Sure awesome. Now I can play them again in exou
three cards and do a thing and underrelled Breach is
just an unbelievable magic card. And if you're slinging spells,
usually my graveyard's pretty fat and pretty full. Yeah, and
then I can just cast my best spells again for
two mana, god damnity, Underwrope breaches just probably honestly, I think,
who's maybe my hot take is probably the best card
in Commander right now, searing the best cart.
Speaker 1: What's the best card in Commander? Down in the comments?
Is this totally right? Maybe he is. I'm not gonna
say I think brash Hunter is still the best card
in Commander. But we all know that. We all knew that.
Mm hmmm, Gary hit him with the thing.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, Oh you didn't invert it. We got another
flame and chicken.
Speaker 1: Oh that's on. That's disappointing. For next week, I'm gonna
make an inverted one and bring it.
Speaker 2: That's perfect.
Speaker 1: That's not like me because that's not just the same
picture twice. You would see the picture if you're watching
on YouTube.
Speaker 2: You know what, it kind of looks like a nipple ring,
which should be.
Speaker 1: It does look kind of like a nipple ring here.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was too focused on the nipple ring on screen.
I got I got lost in the sauce.
Speaker 1: To be fair, no nipple on the butthole, and if
you do have a nipple on your butthole, you should
get that checked out.
Speaker 2: You should.
Speaker 1: You should checked out commander cookout at gmail dot com.
I would. I am interested. You know, you're ask for
stuff like that very often. Oh, get straight into it.
Speaker 2: Straight into it.
Speaker 1: Oh, check it out.
Speaker 2: It's back.
Speaker 1: It's a Coon and Zinder split again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd believe it. I can cool it.
Speaker 1: That coin flip still gets thing. It was also a
premium pre con that was printed.
Speaker 2: This is this is the premium pre con yet.
Speaker 1: Now this is the premium print. Show us the next
one there, Gary will show the next art or the
next art there.
Speaker 2: Oh neat hey, I if you're not watching on YouTube,
which it should be, that is probably my favorite card
that you guys have shown on screen in a while.
That is sweet.
Speaker 1: I like that it blends in with the wall. Yeah
behind us, that's pretty neat. But yeah, so, I mean,
obviously these guys are still going to be there. They
are really fun deck to pilot. I've certainly done it.
I've seen it done, lots of people enjoy it. And again,
the pre con bias that we talk about sometimes is
very much on dispel for sure. So draw new hand,
kill somebody, draw new hand, kill somebody every turn, yep,
or just kill everybody because one of the cards you
drew is an extra combat spell.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Who doesn't love gambling? Who doesn't love a good
coin flip and deck?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, there's a reason Las Vegas exists, and it's
not because it's cheap to live there. Mm hmmmm mmmmm
Gary remember nine.
Speaker 2: Oh this decks a fucking unbelievable deck.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember this one. This is the This
is another one from last week we talked about, uh
not coma uh uh something of wort. The Geyer Straits,
the one where you see, yes, were you would buy
the commander deck that she came in because she was
worth more than the deck.
Speaker 2: Ye. Now, I've been looking for one for no joke,
since Bloomboro come out like they're sold out everywhere all
the time.
Speaker 1: Of course they are, so uh Gary likes her. So
it's a three three rogue otter for is it end
two with prowess, So whenever you cast an interest resourceery
spell or non creature spell, it guess plus one plus
one to let him turn. Other creatures you control have
prowess only shit. And whenever you cast a non creature
spelled target creature you control can't be blocked this turn.
Speaker 2: So this is is it deck because I'm gonna make
one of my things real and big and then I'm
gonna bonk you over the head with it and you
can't block.
Speaker 1: It, okay, or you're gonna make a bunch of things
really big.
Speaker 2: I guess too, well, this is I really want this
because I loved all the otter stuff from Bloomborough, sure,
and all the otters all the things they make auto tokens,
and all the auto tokens have prowess already, so this
gives them prowess.
Speaker 1: Prowess, double prowess. So every time I.
Speaker 2: Cast a cantrip or I don't know, let's say one
of my zero drop artifacts. They get plus two plus
two and can't be blocked.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
Speaker 2: So I only have to cast a few and you dead.
Speaker 1: It's not too bad. Yeah, all right, I can see
why she's hard to find. Only yeah, I think of
this card also like the one on the screen, which.
Speaker 2: So this was actually printed in I believe it was
a dual deck, so you got this, and I want
to say it was like a Gulgary deck was the
other one.
Speaker 1: I think it was some kind of squirrel deck.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think it was the Bulgary Squirrels.
And they were sixty card decks meant to be played
against each other when you're learning. Yeah, and that's the
only this wasn't a main set card as far as
I know correct, So it's I think I'm probably up
to fifty sixty bucks now, yeah, and so limited, so
limited printing. If I ever find those decks out in
the wild, I'm immediately snatching them. Yeah. Really annoying card,
really great card goes and would be all my decks.
Speaker 1: So okay, well Gary, okay, are they gonna try something
real quick? Phanom what a guy? Yeah? Oh sh not?
Only did whatever you guys do work good? I love
I hate phones. Not only did whatever they do worked,
this is and this is true. The commander of my
trash Anti deck that I used to win my very
first trophy ever.
Speaker 2: Yes, also my second commander ever.
Speaker 1: What do you? What do I call him? What? What
I'll call him?
Speaker 2: Make?
Speaker 1: Make the pun? Make the pun? Toby, you got it.
You're right there. You've been hanging around me long enough
to know what I call this guy. Tell them, Tell
the people, Tell the.
Speaker 2: People, tell them. I'm actually stumped. This is crazy. Why
am I blanking right now? I am?
Speaker 1: Sometimes it comes in a bag. Sometimes it happens before
you have surgery. Sometimes people do it before they have
exploratory other things.
Speaker 2: No, oh, there is my man. I knew that.
Speaker 1: Okay. So it's a six six flyer with ward three
and pay three life because why not for a Ferrexian nightmare,
Because it is. It's a six six for seven. Whenever
you cast a non creature spell, create X one to
one Firexian goblin creature tokens where X is the man
of value and they gain haste until end of turn.
Speaker 2: Man of rocks the deck. Yes, it's right, maniros the deck. Baby,
that's right.
Speaker 1: So you you're playing Man of Rocks to get to Ovika.
Then you're gonna keep playing Man of Rocks to play again. Yes,
and sometimes you're gonna pay rituals or other free spells
that like sacked two mountains to earn somebody for four,
but it costs six, so he makes six guys. It's
a super fun deck and it's it's lots of fun
to play because you actually do get to play. While
a lot of it's is a garbage, it's also some
of those fucking spells that you never ever see, Like
I know, common Deer is making a comeback like common Deer,
and it's like where it costs a ten, but you
exile a red card and it's free. There's a little
card called Force of Will that will make you six guys, right,
five guys, those guys five guys days makes you two.
Those are cards you're probably playing anyway.
Speaker 2: I got I hit Smitty in my very first days
the other day that actually worked.
Speaker 1: He didn't pay the one.
Speaker 2: No wait, he was he was playing Landfall and he
tapped his six guys. I can't know what giant massive
landfall duty was. It raging bailoffs and it was. So
he's waiting to play his land after and I said, hey,
I mean lands, you get open. He goes no, No,
I go sweet, get dazed, idiot.
Speaker 1: I lost. I love when Smitty gets a dazed so Vika,
this is now, this is still enough. This is another.
Speaker 2: I think this is this is I mean, this is?
Speaker 1: Is this different enough to call it not a spell
slinger deck?
Speaker 2: No? But also yes, I always this is to me,
it's just Manarrocks dot deck. Yeah, it's Manarros dot deck.
It's just you play all the three. It actually makes
all the three cost Manner rocks good.
Speaker 1: Well, they were already good as Dana roach. He loves them.
Speaker 2: I think they're solid. Everybody hates it. Actually, he even
makes like your your fur cost man of Rocks. They're great,
that's right. I don't know if there's any six cost
Manner Rocks, but they'd be good.
Speaker 1: There's eight drop man of Rocks. You ever heard a
little spell called the Great Hinge?
Speaker 2: Oh can't play that here though? No, you can't be
really good here.
Speaker 1: It is a perfectly fair and balanced magic card that
could be played in here without any issue. I can,
I can, I can see yeah, sure, why not? Why
not do it betam the next card.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 1: Captain Howler the scourgez Scooge is a five to four
with ward two and paid two life because why not
h four shark pirate.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah.
Speaker 1: Whenever you discard one or more cards, target creature gets
plus two plus zero until end of turn for each
card discarded this way. Whenever a creature does combat damage
to a player this turn, you draw a card.
Speaker 2: So at that same tournament, you won, I won coolest
deck with this guy right here? No shit, yeah, I
want well, I guess most unique deck, okay, because it's
all just it's everything that says discarded card make a
guy unblockable, and a bunch of dudes who naturally say unblockable. Okay,
and then you just pitch as many cards as you
can in a singular turn and then swing out for
a big, big that can't be blocked. And each trigger
so if I play a spell that makes me discard
one card, that's one trigger, right, And then if you
stack it up, each of those things staples another draw card.
So it's not like you only, oh, I targeted the
guy three cards, I hit you, I draw three cards.
Let's not draw one card because you hit them once.
Each new trigger makes you draw an additional card.
Speaker 1: Oh, neat, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: And if you pitch seven cards that guy got, it's
plus fourteen plus.
Speaker 1: Oh it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yep, I mean, and it can be him. So then
all of a sudden, hey, buddy, guess what, Yeah, you're dead?
Speaker 1: Actually you know, uh, fun math fact. Maybe you didn't
know this. Maybe you listening didn't know that. Did you
know that fourteen is bigger than two? It's a bigger number.
It's a bigger number. Just pretty cool. I actually play
Captain Howler in my what's his name? The Green Goblin? Yep,
Harry Osborne deck because Norman Osbourne, Yeah, that's the one,
and he because he does what what Tolby just said?
Speaker 2: He definitely go I've seen him in that deck a
few times. I gotta put this guy back together. This
guy's awesome.
Speaker 1: He's pretty cool. He's like a shark with a gun.
Speaker 2: I have this exact printing because it was cheap and awesome.
I don't know why more people don't. I guess he's
the fifth most popular, so yeah, I guess people are playing.
Speaker 1: I guess we could ask Phantom, but he probably doesn't.
Speaker 2: It's fine, I'm gonna assume five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well let's keep going, Adam next one the
hell vague. I know this guy vey Iran Voice of
Duality Freed Wizard two two four three with mage crafts.
Whenever you cast her copy in instance of sorcery, I
guess plus one plus one on turn. So kind of
shitty prowess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially, but this is well, prowess only triggers off cast.
This triggers off casts and copies.
Speaker 1: Okay, sure, sure. Just if you're storming, you're so different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're if you're copying a lot of.
Speaker 1: Spells, yeah, uh, if you if you casting or copying
an instant or sorcery spell causes the triggered ability of
a permanent, you can totally trigger that ability triggers in
a different additional time. So the mage craft on her
would trigger twice.
Speaker 2: Yeses, Okay, so you play this, you play storm kill artists,
you play that arch major Murnius. Sure, you play all
the things. So every time you cast spell, you make
two treasures, make this giant draw too cards. You play
all the mage craft things. You probably play a harmonic
prodigy to make of them. Trigger an additional additional time. Sure,
and then yeah.
Speaker 1: You could win way more and play thousand dar Storm,
which gives all your spells storm.
Speaker 2: Oh I hate that card so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, too much thinking, but like because it would copy
him twice, right, he would storm the thing twice with
a thousand year storms. So like, not only would you
win more, your friends would like you less.
Speaker 2: Well, that card has I've I've only ever seen. Oh,
I put this new card and I'm like, listen, I've
tried it. Here's what thousand year storm does.
Speaker 1: Oh it never works.
Speaker 2: Well, no, the fact is it does work. The problem
is you were already gonna win without spending six man
to do that, because you've already cast thirty five spells,
you're gonna win. Yeah, honestly makes it a little easier.
It's also six man and I go get greened, dickhead.
It's it's it's now a three three elephant yeah or
nothing or nothing yeah, and it's exiled that's even better.
Speaker 1: Maybe forest forest now or there. Maybe they're planet blue
when it's uh wists yep, essentially a waist yeah yeah yeah,
yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Garbage garbage hate that card. So is this I don't know,
like this, this is this, This deck's unbelievable. It's no
the storm Storm deck. But this one's more copying than
I think, whereas a lot of them it's just playing
singular instance, this one's I'm getting my dual castor made involved,
I'm getting.
Speaker 1: So these are like copy these are modern is it?
It's the same, but with all the modern is it's yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the big thing in here is you're playing
a storm Storm killing artist. So you basically never run
out of mana because that's every time you cast her
copy spell, you were making the treasure. So two treasures
every single time.
Speaker 1: That sounds horrific. Yeah, and I hate everything about that venom.
Next card.
Speaker 2: On another order, second daughter, this order, good order.
Speaker 1: A Lania the Divergent Storm is a three to five
for five otter a wizard. Whenever you cast a spell,
if it's the first instant spell, the first sorcery spell,
or the first otter spell other than her you've cast
this turn, you have target opponent draw card if you
do copy the spell, and you may choose new targets
for the copy. So the mentioned spells have gift a
card copy the spell.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Essentially, yes, each turn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesus, this is the Otter deck. But because this
was in the actual set, you can actually own it.
The only reason that this isn't this and Bria aren't
flipped is because Bria is hard to get. You think, oh, yeah,
for sure, absolutely, one hundred and ten percent.
Speaker 1: Okay, so they would be the same deck, It would
be in each other's decks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they and it also might just be to taste.
Maybe you want to do a little bit more of
a copy thing. Like I there's one guy I play
with at one of the local stores and he has
this deck and he has Bria in it. Sure, and
some every time he goes, oh bored, I'll flip them. Okay, yeah,
hey that's the deck. Yeah. I hate it more more
sposely in copy stuff. Weird. It can off also a wizard,
A lot of wizards.
Speaker 1: A lot of wizards.
Speaker 2: But say, I think we're probably up to like thirteen
fourteen wizards.
Speaker 1: Are we one hundred percent on underwear breach? Still? Yeah,
hard undred percent?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Maybe's I think the only one clad last brutal Cloud
in the first ten I think is a maybe.
Speaker 2: I think, well, they'll maybes. It really depends because if
you build around Underworld Breach, even just a little bit
best card. If you don't build around it whatever, Like
you don't you can it's just a chuck away card.
But the other thing is, and is it you don't
have the best recursion in the world. So I've just
played Underworld Breach to get out my Archibashi Marinus again,
just to keep my engines going so I can draw
more cards. Like it's just an unbelievable car. Okay, I
think we can still jam at one hundred percent of
decks we've seen.
Speaker 1: Okay, madam, let's go again. Stella Lee, Oh this is
our Oh, this isn't a This isn't a Universes beyond one.
It just kind of looks like it. This Do we
know this one?
Speaker 2: Do you know this one? This is so already this one?
This is Stelly the wild card. She is a two
four human rogue for is it in one? Whenever you
cast your second spell each turn, exile the top card
of your library until the end of your next turn.
You may play it. Important part of this one is
you can tap her to copy instant or sorcery spell
you control. You may choose new targets for the spell.
Activate activate only if you've cast three or more spells
this turn. So you play three spells, tapper copy one.
This is a CEDH commander, okay, because all you do
is you cast three spells, then you cast I don't
know something that says untapped target creature and draw card.
And then you just and you draw your whole deck
and tosses oracle.
Speaker 1: Oh that sounds really shitty.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's ausmin CDH.
Speaker 1: I hate everything about that.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's it this, there's there's obviously there's obviously a
better way to do that. Like there's also you can
do all sorts of weird little magecraft things, of course,
where you make a bunch of treasures and do this
and do that, and then you can do other more
complicated lines. But the easy way to do it is
you just cast. H it's a two mana. It's a
blue and one untapped creature draw card.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't.
Speaker 2: Remember the name of it. And they can picture if
the guy it's the two bald guys and the ones
touching the other's head. Yeah, and focus, refocus something focus
something like that doesn't matter, and then you just tap
this commander over and over and over and over. And
over again, making infinite copies of it, and you draw
until you have your whole deck in your hand, and
then you win one of any way.
Speaker 1: Yes, you win one of the ways, that is it
or CDH deck will yes, with all the backup you get,
possibly mustard.
Speaker 2: This is a really good starter CDH deck, okay, because
I mean you play a ton of counter spells you play.
It's very different than a lot of other CDH decks
because you play a lot of bad cards. I like
that because you because you need to cast three spells
before you do.
Speaker 1: It right, So you're playing some of the cheerios nonsense
you're playing.
Speaker 2: Well, they have to be in cast three or more.
Oh yeah, no, just yeah, you play a couple of
cheerios things. I do think she has been replaced. I
have a pretty good idea of two cards that aren't
on here that I'm pretty sure we're going to see. Okay,
once is an MH three card and the others obviously
you might be a wizard from Final Fantasy and we
haven't seen either of me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're talking about and I'm you know
how sometimes we go on the show ah fuck because
we saw it. Yeah, we're like, yeah, there will no
surprise if he shows up. So let's talk about this
lady for one more second time. Is she here because
of the competitive things she's capable of doing? Because I
feel like what you're saying is this requires a lot
more hoops if you're just playing casual.
Speaker 2: This was also a pre con. This has the pre
con staple to it as well. Oh this was this
was a thunder Junction pre con.
Speaker 1: Okay, So like, is there any reason that you would
play this one over? Like, can you go back a
card over her?
Speaker 2: I think she's also got more of a card draw
thing because it's you can do a play from exile things.
When you cast your second card every turn, you exel
a top card, So you can maybe do some play
from exile stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, you could maybe incorporate.
Speaker 2: Some Outlaws stuff. I really love one of my favorite
sets of all time, Outlaws of thunder Junction, So you
can do a little bit of Outlaws stuff. I think
there's like this is more you could do a little
bit more, Like is it tribal? I have my my
wizards and stuff fromicly thunder Junction. This is an otter deck.
You know you want to cap copy your orders.
Speaker 1: Okay, So Lania, okay, all right, I think that Fedom,
let's go forward to another one. There it is? There
is NIVM is it the pay ron against two?
Speaker 2: Three?
Speaker 1: This is I don't know two or three or four? Fndom.
Can you go back to the one that I drew
and then we're gonna go back up to this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's go. I would like to know because
we got to be coming up on.
Speaker 1: A quick recap here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, recap cap okay? Ten?
Speaker 1: So ten is Zinda split in a coom?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Then next one uh Riah number nine, O Vika eight,
Captain Howler the Sea Scourge seven. They ran Voice of
Duality six, a cool picture on them. Two, there's Alania five.
Stella is number four?
Speaker 2: Okay, top three.
Speaker 1: Okay, so nim is it still top three?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We drew to that coming Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually I didn't like for costing green or red red,
red blue blah blue. I didn't expect him to.
Speaker 2: Still, it's just the curiosity combo draws in too many
new players too, like that. When I was when I
first started, You're telling me I can kill the table
with one card in my commander and I get to
play lots of instance in sorceries and I get to
feel cool, which, in fairness you do get cast lots
of Finch stories and it does feel pretty cool.
Speaker 1: It's like they've never seen food chain and avy before.
Speaker 2: They haven't. I still haven't seen that shit. I don't
know what you're talking about, food chain.
Speaker 1: And what Maybe it's the ooze storm Ooze.
Speaker 2: No, don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Oh, just commos with itself and food chain. Oh yeah,
never make infinite dudes. I've seen food chain and squee
good yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's where it should be. Yeah,
well it's not that it's where it should be, so we.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think this is still kind of probably up here
because lots of people like the And again I'm gonna
use the blue guy voice. Oh I'm smoter than you
because it does all the blue stuff, it does all
the red stuff. Plus it kind of punishes your opponents
for kind of being inferior at the spell Slinger game.
Speaker 2: For all our audio listeners out there, we're looking at
and miss it again in case we didn't say it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't everybody knew just by my voice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's you know what, he's still. I think
he's cool. He's a great beginner spell slinger commander. You
you can mail build him. Kind of cool, I bet.
But it's it's gonna be, it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Be Storm's it's a storm. It's an instance in.
Speaker 2: That's that's what it is.
Speaker 1: You said there was We've seen no universes beyond yet,
not a one that is crract wild two cards left.
You said there was two in your brain. Have we
seen either of them yet? I know which one of them,
I know what one one of them is.
Speaker 2: We all know the final fantasy one. I'm gonna I'm
gonna should I just check it out there. I think
the next card is going to be real monsoon made
from m H three Avena. Oh oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 1: This guy Gyerson starn Keller Morph. Yeah, he's a three
to two hearing a human So he's you versus Beyond.
Speaker 2: This is from what is this war Warhammer?
Speaker 1: Warhammer? We did this guy on the show has ward two,
because why the hell not the universe beyond? Whenever another
source you control deals exactly one damage to a permanent
or a player. Gyrison starn Keller Morph deals two damaged
to that permanent or player.
Speaker 2: So Firebrand, Archer, dot Deck, uh, whatever you've there's so
many different fire Spinner. Well all your pingers that say
when you cast spell, deal one damage.
Speaker 1: What is a prodigal Sorcerer? Is that the that's like
the guy right, there's like a little there's like a
dude that costs blue and two app but one damage
to something.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did. I would just play all the
there's the new otter that has offspring that deals one
damage to everybody. There's a million Yeah with the.
Speaker 1: Kind of the first y kind of one e that
does that was like this prodigal sorcerer.
Speaker 2: What this guy rips? This guy beats you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we've certainly seen a few of these decks
in the nation. I know if you guys play it,
I know we've done it on the show at least once. Like,
I'm surprised to think of this guy. Who is that?
We all know who the first, the next, Yeah, we
all know the next. So who is this guy?
Speaker 2: You were telling me cdh deck on the scene. But
he's really cool and I've seen him floating around in
our local meta a little bit. Uh, he's one of
the flip planes walkers from MH three and essentially I
need to worry about it's Raal Monsoon. He's one of
the rows we all rouse a famous character. Uh, he's
read in one. He makes all your instance and sorceries
cost one less sure. Whenever you cast one, you flip
a coin and then you if you lose the flip,
you take one damage. If you win the flip, he
flips into a planes walker with loyalty equal to the
amount of spells you've cast. So the goal of the
deck is to flip him with after you've cast enough
spells to immediately ultimate him, and then you exile a
bunch of cards off the top of your deck. You
play him all for free, and then you should just
win from there.
Speaker 1: Check out.
Speaker 2: That's that's the deck, and it's it's been It's really cool.
It's a new CDH deck with that. I like because
once again plays a lot of bad cards.
Speaker 1: I like. I like the X play bad cards. I
don't know if you know you've been around the nation long.
Oh no, we love our bare so Gyriz and Star
not a bad card.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Now that we know that we're on nine or two,
we know what the next one's going to be for
h ptom shows VV surprise it's vb oh.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 1: This is wicked mad crazy dude. I feel so smart
for knowing.
Speaker 2: This was here. I mean also this is probably what
this is, of course. Well no, this is like my
favorite card of all time. This this card's so good.
I love this card.
Speaker 1: Zero three for three Yeah, wizard zero at X man
I had any combination of blue and or red where
X is his power activate only during your turn. It
only wants each turn. Next paragraph, whenever you cast a
non creature spell, put a plus one plus one counter
on VV, and it does one damage to each opponent. Toby,
tell them how this deck works. Just explain to them
how this deck is different than all the other is
at decks we've talked about today.
Speaker 2: Because you play Curiosity in a Fity and Eye and
then draw most of your deck the whole time, and
then anybody tries to interact with you, you say, no thanks,
I'm gonna counter your thing. I'm'na make a ton more
mana underworld breach one hundred percent in this deck. Yeah,
you're gonna play. I kind of want to build VV cheerios.
Why not because I because it's all non creature. I
think that'd be kind of fun, just dumping your hand
playing a bunch of year there's I mean, it's literally
he's just the best Man of rot three drop Man
of Rock ever printed in the command zone. Sure, and
you can also win through burn. It's not different than
any of the other decks. I kind of ooh, I've
look looking through all these cards since I've liked almost
all of them. Okay, I think I might build is
it then? And now the deck and just take all
the creatures we've seen, put them in one deck with
VV at the helm, and it will be basically all
of the decks we've seen.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: I think that could be fun.
Speaker 1: Even ruder Clad Yep.
Speaker 2: I'll put brud Glad in there. He has to go
in if I do all of them.
Speaker 1: Ruder Clad does make tokens. So does the Locust God. Yep,
all right, lots of the otters make otter tokens.
Speaker 2: Yep. We could. Well, I'll figure it out. I'll build,
I'll build, I'll build. Is it top ten deck?
Speaker 1: Oh? Fit of Animal Goliath definitely makes goblins. Yeah, there's
lots of token generation.
Speaker 2: I guess you could fit them all, yep, oh, I
could definitely fit them all and.
Speaker 1: Everybody else that says cast intens of source or readrop.
Speaker 2: Card, Yeah, pretty good deck.
Speaker 1: Would you say that the myth of is it just
being a spell slinger color combination have been dashed or
do you think that they have been? I would say,
and maybe I'm being a pessimist, tell me if I'm wrong.
I think they were pretty much confirmed here. They had
some decks that were wacky and doing crazy stuff. Our
June is different, Zinder split in a comb with the
coin flip kind of thing going on. They're a little different.
But I think at the core, I think we talked
about sixteen storm next today.
Speaker 2: I'm going to make a bold claim right now, okay,
And I don't think the problems that is it. I
think the problem is with I want everybody to go
to your bathroom, look in the mirror. The problems with us,
it's problems with you anybody who plays, is it? I
think there's way cooler things out there. I think there's
awesome stuff, even just ripping through ball like, there's lots
of cool stuff we can do. And is it just
nobody's creative enough to do it? And they just want
to do that, and like I understand, like I love
spell Slinger, like I understand everybody's gonna have one. But
I think there is chances for cooler stuff to be
on this list that didn't make it. I think there's
awesome things you can do in Blue Red. I think
there's probably some different different ways to build it. Having
said that, the best way to play it is spell Slinger,
and that is what we saw. It's not the entire
color though, That's not all we can do.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of people gravitate towards doing it, and.
Speaker 2: Everybody has one is it Spellslinger deck that wants to
do it, and then they might do something cool with
is It? But that's like a maybe thing. But everybody
who's thought about doing blue is like, oh, do spell
Slinger once, and then maybe I'll touch it again and
do something different. Maybe I'll do Bruna Clad, Maybe I'll
do something I haven't even thought of. Maybe I'm not creative.
Speaker 1: Enough to We've got a lot of that cdch bouncing around.
Let me ask another VV question. Absolutely, I've been wondering
about this lots. Yeah, let's say he's not from final thing.
Let's say he's Chuck Limberger, and he's a mouse, and
he's from fucking I don't know. I don't care what
plane he's from. I don't give a shit. He's a
mouse named Chuck. Says the same shit on him. He's
still gonna be good, He's still gonna be very popular.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?
Speaker 1: Is he still number one? Or do you think the
Final Fantasy a factor in him? Being a very popular
character from one of the popular games raised his profile
even more than it already was.
Speaker 2: I think because I've need I want this exact printing.
This exact printing is like several one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: So chokeable race trackfoil.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna get the race trackfoil, but I
just just do want one of the things from that set. Anyways,
Number one, I think you made a bad example there
because Chuck the Mouse sounded awesome.
Speaker 1: You're right, what if it was Chuck Chuck the Mouse
from Chucky Cheese, We're gonna give it an even worse
universes beyond it's the Chucky Cheese crossover.
Speaker 2: If you made Chuck Uck Chee, this card is Chuck
e Cheese crossover, it would be the number one commander
on hedh Trek, Are you kidding me? I would have
five chuck E Cheese decks. You think Chuckie Cheese like
if you made it, I don't know, some garbage like
let's make it a new copenna, weird thug guy. Okay,
I still think it would be number one for Several's
Number one. I thought it was a bad Sah deck.
People smarter than me have figured it out and it's
seeing tournament results again excellent, So that's putting it up there.
Number two. It is the best spell Slinger commander just
by far right.
Speaker 1: It does say deal damage to each and the plus
one plus one plus one is permanent, unlike all the
Prowess commanders we saw it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's man of stapled right onto it. I
think it would it would probably be still top two
or three for sure, even if it wasn't VV being
VV helped. I don't know how beloved VV is in
the final Fantasy scene. I'm sure you can attest to that.
Pretty he's a pretty beloved characters That always helps, for sure.
Speaker 1: He had his own minigame which infuriated everybody sitting to
Toby's right right now now.
Speaker 2: For years I looked left immediately, and I was like, really,
I don't.
Speaker 1: Then they motherfucking made a trophy around it and I
stopped playing the Final Fantasy nine remaster. I'm not jumping rope, Nope, nopeurs,
but fuck you still.
Speaker 2: Also, we didn't see any universes beyond until the top two,
which is hilarious.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: It was like, we're like, no universe beyond. Oh yeah,
the top two commanders are you? So does that wait
them more heavily to universes beyond? Has ruined? Is it?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, actually, this one, this one
might because like the we had the copying stuff commander. Yeah,
we had two Prowess commanders, Yeah, both of whom were
just completely outclassed by VV.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, everything's outclassed by VV.
Speaker 1: Who was probably pushed to this power level because it
was a Final Fantasy Universe Beyond card. So I would
say this one might. I would say maybe VV ruined.
Maybe he did.
Speaker 2: I think he might have, because if you're sitting down,
oh my god, I was playing, I go Sunday to
a store where none of our the normal guys I
play with go to sure, including yourself, and I sit
down and I'm playing and then.
Speaker 1: Uh, deck show up?
Speaker 2: Oh well he he sits there and he plays VV.
He's like, and I go, all right, obviously I'm going
to deal with that. He goes, oh, he just got
right in my win con. Is like, what do you
mean Vv's your win con? Like recomboing with curiosity like
and it pure? Curiosity goes No, he just deals one
damage to you. And I was like, oh, my sweet
summer child, how new are you. He's like, ohly be
playing for like three four months. I'm like, that's not
win con. That's not win con.
Speaker 1: Son, Sorry, well, I mean it is if you're deck
does the does the heat big storm turn thing.
Speaker 2: You could He was not doing thirteen spells a turn
to make that a win con. Okay, is there's I
think the problem with this deck is it's been everything.
It's so good. I think he's honestly corrupted new players
into thinking he himself is a win con. Oh if
you're not casting forty five spells, which most of the
new guys aren't. I know, I tried to never got there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I just thought I thought that was a little fun story.
I do think it is some of the rhetoric online around.
Some of these cards will lead newer players astray.
Speaker 1: I think VV is one of them.
Speaker 2: Heh, I think VV is one of them. I think
he's led a couple of new players astray go Oh,
I just need VV. No, you kind of got to
do some other things. Okay, you gotta do some other things.
Real good guard still, don't get me wrong. That's why
I had to remove it immediately. But I just want
you to know that this isn't isn't it itself a
win con? You need to do other stuff? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he does the is it thing the hardest,
and I think that we have established that maybe is
it just sort of his design to do the is
it thing? Which is too bad?
Speaker 2: I again, I think there's it's just the most common
way to play it. I think there's cool stuff to
be had here.
Speaker 1: Sure, but in the top ten and the most popular
way of doing it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ten way and the most popular way to
do it is just kind of slinging a ton of spells,
which I nothing. I love. I will stand on this hill.
It is super fun. You want to play your storm
deck with me, I'll have a great time do it. Yeah,
awesome bustler, but.
Speaker 1: It didn't work out like how we thought Orozov was
going to be all aristocrats, but there was just that
one aristocrat commander that was so much better that it
just ate the lunch of the rest of the aristocrats ones,
and then you had a bunch of other stuff. Yeah, right,
Simmic was the kind of the same thing. There was
a couple of Simmit guys, then kind of the wacky
fucking shit that Simmit can do, because there's the there's
the clear best one. Yeah, here there's a clear best one,
and then a bunch of its kind of little buddies,
you know what I mean. So, I mean, I'm sure
there is it, but not not here.
Speaker 2: I think, well, I think the thing is like there
were some almost some different vein stuff because we had
some like copy commanders. We're still casting smells, sure, but
now I'm copying them, whereas this is I'm just casting
a ton. There was the coin flip guy that's pretty cool.
Bruno Clad was Brunaclad on the new list. No he
didn't make it, did any Yeah he did, Oh he did,
so we still Brutoclad. Like there was some slight divergence.
It all was kind of the same, but it was
just branches of a tree. Yeah, they're all we're doing
the thing, but we're doing it with glitter on it
this time, where yeah, you know what I mean, Like,
we're doing the thing, but we're doing it slightly different.
So it's just kind of.
Speaker 1: This time, we're gonna hit you with an eight ball
in a sock instead of a cue ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's just flavored to taste. I like
paprika over chili powder. It was all. It was all,
we're all eating chicken. What did you put on your chicken?
Speaker 1: Do you really like paprika more than chili potter? No, okay,
because I thought we were gonna have to uninvite you
from the show.
Speaker 2: I like them together very much. That's great, that's fine.
Speaker 1: But if you can only pick one, there is a
right answer to that question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if I had to pick one, it
would be chili powder.
Speaker 1: What if you had to put one into your eye.
I don't know if paprika is bad in your eye.
Phantom know nothing about that. M doesn't know if paprika
is bad.
Speaker 2: For your I think it wouldn't hurt as much, but
I think it'd be harder to get out because it
clumps real bad.
Speaker 1: Gross. Oh yet like that were like paprika.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it'd be worse to get out, but
chili flakes would hurt more initially but be easier to get.
Speaker 1: Out because they're bigger. Yeah, on dust, there's having a
goddamn lawn mower down the thing. Anyway, nobody can nobody
can hear that except for us. You know what else
nobody can hear except for us us talk off of
the air. We're gonna talk more about magic off the air. Probably.
I'm gonna get one more prediction from our guest host
Toby following what we just saw with this. Yes, we're
doing Boros next week.
Speaker 2: Yes, do you think.
Speaker 1: That Boros is going to be just attacky, attack and
now with artifacts equipment specifically, do you think that that's
what we're gonna see next week? Or do you think
Boros will surprise us? What do you think?
Speaker 2: I think Boris is gonna surprise you? I have made
several Boros decks over the past year. Okay, Boros is cool. Now.
I think they really wanted to get it out of
just being like Tokens attack burn type deal. Okay, because
they like in Lorewin. They made they made a Boros
spell copy. Commander, I've come on this show to talk
about my breed life life gain from exile decks. Right,
I'm trying to think of a few other I think
Boros has some cool options. Now. I think the question is,
like we've seen with is it are people playing them
commonly in enough for it not to just be a
tacky attacking and equipment.
Speaker 1: That's the question.
Speaker 2: That's the question, and we were you know, you know what.
Speaker 1: We're gonna answer that question next week on the next
exciting episode of Commander Cookout podcast
Speaker 2: In Our Thing