WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.000 Now one of your pudding. I got a string going 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:04.200 on here, something. 3 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:04.879 Just because my dog. 4 00:00:05.160 --> 00:00:06.120 Something killed your dog. 5 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:07.320 My dog. 6 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:08.960 We're flying through the air over the tree. 7 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:09.599 I don't know. 8 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:14.759 How it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm really confused. All 9 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:15.880 I saw was my dog. 10 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:17.160 Coming over the fence and he was dead. 11 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:18.920 And once you hit the ground like, I didn't see 12 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:19.359 any cars. 13 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:21.320 All I saw was my dog coming over the fence. 14 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:38.960 Sat what are you putting? 15 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:43.759 We got some wonder or something crawling around out here? 16 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:52.240 Did you see what it was or was it was? 17 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.719 Standing enough. I'm out here looking through the window now 18 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:58.960 and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside, Jesus. 19 00:00:58.719 --> 00:00:59.359 Quice you bick. 20 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:06.040 Hello, hit the boddy out here, quin, I'm out there. 21 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:06.719 I thought of a. 22 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:09.719 Bitch about tech forty nine. I don't know easy, am 23 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:10.159 out there? 24 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:11.560 Yeah, I'm walking right. Hey. 25 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:14.840 I welcome my guest to the show. It is Joey 26 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:16.519 from Maryland. Welcome to the show man. 27 00:01:16.760 --> 00:01:19.319 Thank you appreciate you taking the time to hear me out. 28 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:22.719 I'm glad to have you. You got here in a little 29 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:25.760 bit of an unconventional way for the show, because the 30 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:28.680 show is obviously about sitting down talking to people about 31 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:31.920 their encounter stories. But we've had this thing on our 32 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:35.239 website for years. We pay for it every month, and 33 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:37.840 I've talked about it add nauseum on the show, trying 34 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:40.599 to get people to use this function where you can 35 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:43.879 just click a button, talk into your phone or your computer, 36 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:47.599 your tablet, whatever the hell you're using, and just leave 37 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:51.640 us a voicemail. I've absolutely loved those things. That's why 38 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:53.799 I've kept it on the website all these years. We 39 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:56.159 used to do it a lot on that Bigfoot podcast 40 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:58.200 when Wayne and I were co hosting that show together. 41 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:01.519 I would read emails from people that we got all 42 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:03.920 the time about that particular show, my show, his show, 43 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:07.319 and the voicemails were always one of these centralized things 44 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:10.120 that I looked forward to the most. Because you can 45 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:12.800 send an email to somebody and we get tons of 46 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:15.759 emails every day. I get tons of messages on social media, 47 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:18.240 and I respond to all of those, but there's something 48 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:23.280 about hearing somebody's voice. I tell you a little inside Baseball. 49 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:26.599 My day starts the same almost every day. I get 50 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:29.439 up fairly early, usually an hour or so before Danny 51 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:32.159 gets up, and I do my thing I have my 52 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:35.639 coffee and it's my time to get ready for the workday. 53 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:37.639 I get ready to go into whatever I'm going to 54 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:41.039 be doing as far as production that day, interviews, editing, whatever, 55 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:43.599 and I go and look on social media, see what's 56 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:45.879 going on in the world. A bigfoot. Everything in my feed, 57 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:48.280 all of my algorithms are all bigfoot all the time. 58 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:51.319 So that's pretty much what I'm indicated with. But part 59 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:54.719 of that is I go through and I breeze through 60 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:57.400 the emails. That's Danny's job. I don't really get into 61 00:02:57.439 --> 00:02:59.680 the emails unless I need to, and we have a 62 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:02.960 fly bagging system. If something needs my attention, it'll get flagged. 63 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:06.039 But that particular morning, just a couple of weeks ago, 64 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:09.080 when you sent that voicemail, I got up, I did 65 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:11.120 my morning thing, I had my coffee, and I made 66 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:13.599 my way into the studio and I opened up the 67 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:17.120 emails and I saw there was an email that had 68 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:19.680 a voicemail attached to it. Okay, I'm going to listen 69 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:21.400 to this. And I got to be honest, man, I 70 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:24.280 sat here, it was probably seven thirty and I clicked 71 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:26.319 your voicemail and I played it. There was a little 72 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:28.560 over three and a half minutes, and I just sat 73 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:31.800 here in stunned silence listening to your voicemail. And I 74 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:35.439 say that because it wasn't really about an encounter. It 75 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:38.520 was about this new book that I've been working on 76 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:41.560 called Bigfoot Country, and I put out the first couple 77 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:44.360 of chapters of that book, and most people that are 78 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:46.560 listening to this right now probably heard. I think I've 79 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:48.639 put out the first three or four parts of that 80 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:51.560 over here. The other show that I do, backwards Bigfoot Stories, 81 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:53.479 I think I'm on part six over there, so I've 82 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:56.120 got a little farther ahead there. I don't like to 83 00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:58.479 cross post a lot of stuff on both of the 84 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:01.560 shows because a lot of the listenership listens to both shows, 85 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:03.879 so I try to do different things. But that book, 86 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:06.439 to me, is special, so I've done it in both places, 87 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:10.560 and your voicemail was specifically about that first part of 88 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:13.759 that book that I put out, and I've literally been 89 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:17.720 sitting on writing that book for years because I wanted 90 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:21.319 to incorporate some of my personal story in the book. 91 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:25.680 Because this love of bigfoot, this love of the search 92 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:28.480 for the answers about this creature, started in my childhood. 93 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:31.000 So I was like, how do I do that without 94 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:34.360 boring people? Obviously, nobody wants to hear about my horrible 95 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:37.240 childhood traumas and all the shit that I dealt with 96 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:40.000 as a kid, but it, to me is a very 97 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:44.560 powerful and integral part of the story. So I wrestled 98 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:47.040 with how to do that and be honest because I've 99 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:50.160 always prided myself on the show. I just had a 100 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:53.120 conversation with a guy named Luke recently that's similar to this, 101 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:55.800 even though you have your own encounters and experiences we're 102 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.199 going to talk about later and get into. But Luke 103 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:01.040 reached out a couple of weeks ago. This episode literally 104 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:04.839 as we record this today, aired today on Friday, and 105 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:07.560 it was just a conversation about Bigfoot. Luke reached out 106 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:09.360 via email. He said, Hey, man, I've been listening to 107 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:11.439 your show for years. I love what you do. I'm 108 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:14.240 a huge fan of the show. I don't have any encounters. 109 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:16.920 I just want to talk about Bigfoot. 110 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:18.519 At the interview. It's really good too, man. It was 111 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:21.240 just a conversation between two people that was a really 112 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:22.199 good show. 113 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:25.079 Yeah. I was hoping that it would resonate as much 114 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:28.399 as it did for me doing the show. As it 115 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:32.079 did with Luke and I having that conversation, because I 116 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:34.399 think he told one encounter that his grandmother had shared 117 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:36.120 with him, and maybe some other stuff that people had 118 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:38.920 shared with him, but nothing really of his own. But 119 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:41.360 I thought it was so impactful just for him to 120 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:43.920 reach out and say, Hey, let's have a conversation about bigfoot. 121 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.240 I love talking about bigfoot, right, It was just a 122 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:49.399 sort of an experiment for us. He didn't want to 123 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:52.000 be on the show. That was not his intention. I 124 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:54.040 just said, hey, can I record our conversation because I 125 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:56.680 think it's a powerful way for us to connect about 126 00:05:56.759 --> 00:06:00.759 the subject of bigfoot. So when I heard your voicemail, man, 127 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:03.399 I sat here and literally teared up in my studio 128 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:08.519 because that book was and is so much a part 129 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:13.360 of me, right, and to know that it impacted someone 130 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:17.959 the way that it impacted you literally not only changed 131 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:20.160 my day and how I saw the rest of that day, 132 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:24.439 but literally, since that voicemail, I have really had to 133 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:26.959 do sort of a one eighty on the way that 134 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:29.639 I look at the show, because you do this in 135 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:32.120 a vacuum, right. I sit in this little room in 136 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:34.800 our little tiny house, and I talk to people, and 137 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:36.480 I put the show together, and I put it out 138 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:40.519 for people. I never really am able to connect the 139 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:43.839 dots of how it impacts the people that might consume 140 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:45.560 the show. I know what it does for me. I 141 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:48.959 know how important and impactful every conversation I have with 142 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:53.560 every person I interview is. But hearing from someone like 143 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:56.920 you that it does make a difference, it does impact 144 00:06:56.920 --> 00:06:58.639 you on a different level. And we're talking to go 145 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:02.000 out a personal level because you connected with my childhood. 146 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:05.439 And for everybody who's heard that, those first couple of 147 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:08.120 parts of the book, i'd say part one through three 148 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.199 are pretty much the way that my life went. I 149 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:14.399 didn't embellish there, it wasn't fictionalized. There were some things 150 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:18.360 that were changed here and there in certain ways just 151 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:22.360 to protect other people, so to speak. But by and large, 152 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:24.480 what you hear is my childhood. It is the way 153 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:27.959 that I grew up. It is my life. So I 154 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:31.360 wrestled with that. But part of doing this show for 155 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:34.000 me all these years has been about honesty. When I 156 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:37.079 first started finding evidence, I talked about it with Luke 157 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:39.759 in that episode that aired today. I sat on a 158 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:42.560 lot of evidence because I know how people are going 159 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:44.439 to see that I know how people are going to 160 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:47.240 react to me. When I say I do this, or 161 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:50.439 I found this or I experienced this. It gets looked 162 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:53.120 at through a different lens because of how I'm seen 163 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:57.399 as just an entertainer, as just a podcast in this realm. 164 00:07:57.600 --> 00:07:59.480 If I may, I'm going to have to stop you 165 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:02.079 there to you are not seen as just an entertainer. 166 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:05.439 You have absolutely no idea how much respect people have 167 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:10.480 for you, how much further you push not only this subject, 168 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:13.480 but those of us that listen to you follow you. 169 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:17.560 It may sound strange, but we love not only you 170 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:20.519 and the work that you're doing. You put yourself out 171 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:24.839 so much in ways you don't understand that. Obviously, I 172 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:26.800 don't know you, but I feel like I know you. 173 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:32.080 I've been listening to you for so long following the stories. 174 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:35.080 I love the podcast. I loved the Sasqutch stuff. Like 175 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:38.440 I said in the voicemail, I loved you. When you 176 00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:41.440 opened up in that manner, I connected with you a 177 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:44.440 carter percent. That was it, because then I'm like, dude, 178 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:47.159 you're basically talking about my childhood. I get it. It's 179 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:51.480 a big, put cryptid podcast we're talking about. But you 180 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:53.879 open yourself up in such a way that was just 181 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.679 kind of put this. It was so honest that I 182 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:01.639 had absolutely no recourse but to reach out to you 183 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:04.600 because I grew up the same way. My dad was 184 00:09:04.639 --> 00:09:07.840 a jerk. I dropped out of high school to help 185 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:11.000 take care of my mother because she had cancer. Listening 186 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:13.840 to you, it went beyond the whole Bigfoot thing. It 187 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:16.919 was like, I can actually relate to this person. We 188 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:19.840 have such similar childhood. See, that's why I used to 189 00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:22.279 go into the woods. That's why I had my encounter, 190 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:25.799 because that was my relief was to just deep and 191 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:30.320 go into the woods. Again. You don't understand how you 192 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:34.840 touch people buying. You're a humble person, the way you 193 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:38.559 talk to people, the way you say, the things that 194 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:41.360 you say, and everything else, and you're so honest and 195 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:45.080 open about it that truthfully, that's why I reached out 196 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:48.600 to you, and the same way that you spoke openly, 197 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:51.360 I'm willing to be an open book because of who 198 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:55.840 you are. I got nothing but tons of respect for you. 199 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:59.279 I definitely appreciate it. Let's stop being so sappy and 200 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:03.480 get to what everybody I clicked to play for, which 201 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:06.600 is actually going to be hearing an encounter let's get 202 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:08.519 into that. Man, you didn't think it was a big deal, 203 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:11.440 but I think every encounter is huge. Whether it's you 204 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:14.960 heard something, saw something, smelled something felt something, I don't care. 205 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:16.720 It's all datus. Let's get into that. Why don't you 206 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:18.360 take us back to where you were, what you were doing, 207 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:20.200 and tell us what happened to you. All right? 208 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:25.360 This is back in the mid late eighties. I was twelve, 209 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:28.399 thirteen years old and almost fifty now. Like I said, 210 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:30.039 I used to go into the woods all the time. 211 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:32.679 It was just a creep Like that little creek a 212 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:34.600 couple of blocks down from my house that I used 213 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:38.480 to go hike into that were deer. I saw a 214 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:40.799 bobcat that was really cool. I ran into a couple 215 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:44.480 of boxes and coyotes, and it was just my thing. 216 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:48.159 That was like my getaway. I used to love going 217 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:51.519 through the creeks and looking for turtles and water snakes, 218 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:54.279 that sort of stuff, just being a little kid. In 219 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:57.320 this one time, I heard a noise behind me. I 220 00:10:57.399 --> 00:11:01.519 want to treat like when a squirreled into the bark. 221 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:05.080 So I turned around and start scanning. But it wasn't 222 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:08.919 a squirrel. It was a little white I call it 223 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:12.440 a monkey. People have corrected me on that because it 224 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:16.360 looked like a little chimp. That's what it looked like 225 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:20.559 to me. I was twelve years old, so my knowledge 226 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:23.919 was obviously limited, but that's what it looked like to me. 227 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:28.279 The little thing was coming down at the tree head first. 228 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:31.159 Since the first time I actually spoke about it, I 229 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:33.519 try to remember more about it. I know that there 230 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:36.679 was a limb that it had its little arm on once. 231 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:39.080 It was a left arm that was leaning on the limb, 232 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:42.000 and the other one was just around the tree. We 233 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:46.320 just locked eyes and we just looked at each other. Now, 234 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:48.759 this little thing to me looked like a baby chimp. 235 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:51.679 It was no more two feet from the top of 236 00:11:51.720 --> 00:11:54.440 the head to the bottom. Obviously it's got its little 237 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:57.600 legs and stuff, but that was it. It was a 238 00:11:57.639 --> 00:12:00.240 trainy little thing. Any way I would see it. It 239 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:03.840 was a big kind of primate monkey, whatever you want 240 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:06.399 to call but I know that it was a bee. 241 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:09.720 We just locked eyes. After we looked at each other 242 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:13.320 for a minute, it went around the tree. I've said 243 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:15.360 before that it went around the tree like a squirrel. 244 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:17.559 It wasn't like head down and it just went around 245 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:18.039 the tree. 246 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:18.759 Legged squirrel. 247 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:24.080 No, it actually turned and went around. So I come over. 248 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:26.399 I walk out of the creek because I was waiting 249 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:28.919 through the creek looking for stuff. I come out of 250 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:31.480 the creek and go over to the tree, and I 251 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:35.279 circle the tree looking for it, and I couldn't see 252 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:37.519 it again. I don't know if there was a hole 253 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:39.679 in the tree. I don't know if it made it 254 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.600 to another tree and jumped away. Well anything, there was 255 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:48.639 no feeling of anything weird. I didn't smell anything. As 256 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:51.639 a matter of fact, I can't even tell you that 257 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:55.440 what I saw was a quote unquote Bigfoot or sasquad. 258 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:59.159 I'm simply telling you what I saw. I don't know 259 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:02.039 what I saw it that that's what it looked like 260 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:06.399 to me. I know that it was not an albino, 261 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:09.320 because the albinos have the red eyes and the pale 262 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:12.600 skin and all that stuff. That little thing did not 263 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:16.120 have any of those characteristics. The hair for the fur 264 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.480 was white, but to the best of my recollection and 265 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.960 my new this is what thirty years ago, the skin 266 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:28.799 was gray, the eyes were normal, and we just looked 267 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:31.200 at each other. I don't necessarily know what to make 268 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:33.200 of that, because I can't tell you what it was. 269 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:34.320 I went home. 270 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:38.320 I told my older brother that I saw this thing, 271 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:41.120 and he just looked at me and said, he probably 272 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:43.240 just saw it squirrel man. I left it there. It 273 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.120 wasn't like one of those things that it didn't threaten me. 274 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:49.519 It was just something I saw. I had run into 275 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:52.399 a bobcat back then. Bobcat will give you a whoop 276 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:55.279 if you mess with him. I knew better to go 277 00:13:55.360 --> 00:13:58.159 mess with a Bobcat. I knew better than to mess 278 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:00.840 with a kyo or something like that. This was just 279 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:05.440 another I thought, just another animal I ran into, and 280 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:09.159 I never thought that it could be anything else. I 281 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:12.480 didn't understand it, but I didn't have bigfoot or cryptis 282 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:15.159 in my mind at that time. It wasn't until I 283 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:19.799 grew up much later in my late thirties early forties 284 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:23.960 started to find out about this big crypting. People started 285 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:26.320 talking about it, and then I started putting things together, 286 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:29.320 and I'm like, wait a minute, I've seen these things. 287 00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:33.120 I've heard things in the woods before. That's where I 288 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:36.240 started to put two and two together, and I thought 289 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:39.799 to myself, is that what I saw? Is that what 290 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:43.039 it was? But again, there was no feeling of dread. 291 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:46.919 I didn't see a mom or dadd or, and I 292 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:49.000 just saw that little thing. And that's the only thing 293 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:52.440 I've ever seen. Everything else you can say you circumstantial, 294 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:57.360 because it's just things that I've heard and seen. I'll 295 00:14:57.399 --> 00:14:59.519 tell you about how my dogs react to it. 296 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:04.000 Stay tuned for more Sasquatch Outasy. We'll be right back 297 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:08.759 after these messages. 298 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:11.679 In twenty twenty two, once I was trying to get 299 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:18.320 into this, I started blasting the Sierra sounds into the 300 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:20.519 back of this creek where we were at for a 301 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:23.679 little bit. We had dogs. I was working with some rescues, 302 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:27.039 so we had more dolls than we do now. Nothing 303 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:29.320 happened for months. I'm not gonna lie to you and 304 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:32.080 tell you that, oh yeah, we got tons of response. 305 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:32.840 No we didn't. 306 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:37.080 I blasted it, didn't blast it. Nothing happened. All of 307 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:40.039 a sudden, a few months later, I'm taking my dolls 308 00:15:40.039 --> 00:15:42.120 out because I leave very early for work. I do 309 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:45.759 electrical work, so I usually i'm up by two forty 310 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:47.840 two forty five in the morning, and I try to 311 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:51.559 leave the house buying about three twenty. So I got 312 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:53.919 to feed the dogs, get everything done, all that other 313 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:57.559 stuff I take the dolls out through the back. They 314 00:15:57.559 --> 00:16:00.399 won't come up. They won't come off the back porch, 315 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:02.720 and I'm like, let's go. I don't want to be 316 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:03.240 laid for work. 317 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:03.639 Let's go. 318 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:07.360 They wouldn't come off the back porch. Then behind me, 319 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:10.799 to my I guess if I'm facing the back, to 320 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:15.679 my right, I hear chimps. The sound of chimps, mate. 321 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:20.960 It was an exchange between two entities, I guess I 322 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:24.200 can say that went back and forth. It was very 323 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:28.000 similar to the Sierra sounds at exactly like that, but 324 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:31.879 it was that same kind of vocalization the world like 325 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:35.879 you can tell that there's two entities there. There was 326 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:39.080 an exchange. We might have heard it for ten seconds, 327 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:43.080 that's it. And those dogs would not move off the 328 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:46.600 back porch, so I bring them back in. I'm on 329 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:48.600 my way into work and I call my brother and 330 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:51.080 I tell him, hey, dude, I think I just heard 331 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:55.240 two chimps, and he's sure you did, laughs at me, 332 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:58.480 and I left it there. The thing about it is 333 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:02.559 about a week later, we had gone to bed already 334 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:07.240 and I hear and always wakes me up. So I 335 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:11.000 wake up and what I hear is something like a 336 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:13.960 baseball back hitting a tree because it's just going. But 337 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:17.759 the thing about it is after it would hit whatever 338 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:21.759 it was hitting three times. Talk to other people since 339 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:24.839 then and what it mimicked. Actually, what I came to 340 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:28.119 realize what it mimic is the same way that a 341 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:31.559 gorilla will beat on his chest because they can do 342 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:34.440 that so quickly. Again, Brian, I'm not going to tell 343 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:38.160 you what it was. I'm simply telling you what I've 344 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:42.440 heard and what other people have suggested. I am not 345 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:46.440 telling you that there was a sasquatch there because I 346 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:49.440 don't know what the heck they are. I'm only telling 347 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:53.880 you what happened to me so I wake up. This 348 00:17:53.920 --> 00:18:00.119 is going on. I own German line, German blood or 349 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:05.799 to German shepherds. They are trained in protection. Everybody knows 350 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:10.119 that my dogs are very social. But you're not coming 351 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:11.880 up to the house in the middle of the night 352 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:15.440 to start something and not going to get a response. 353 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:19.880 Even the big male I have, who his bed was 354 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:23.880 always next to my bed on the floor, these dogs 355 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:26.920 are laying down and if you look at them, they're 356 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:30.759 basically trying to bury themselves in their bed. Ears back 357 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:35.519 just completely flack, and those are not the dogs that 358 00:18:35.559 --> 00:18:38.880 I own. If somebody came to the door and started 359 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:43.240 beating on a tree or knocking on the door, those 360 00:18:43.279 --> 00:18:47.480 dogs would have ripped through their floor and been down there, 361 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:52.599 not heartbeat, ready to challenge whatever was doing that. I 362 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:56.160 even had a dog Argentina at that time. All these 363 00:18:56.359 --> 00:19:01.240 dogs were buried in their beds trying to and as 364 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:04.039 I sat up picked up the phone in the nightstand 365 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:06.880 to try to record this, and as soon as I 366 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:09.559 picked up the phone, they'd immediately stopped. I don't know 367 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:12.480 how to explain this. People can believe this if they 368 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:14.480 want to, or not if they don't want to. But 369 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:18.559 this feeling just came over me, and all my share 370 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:21.839 just all of a sudden stood up, and I felt 371 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:27.480 this horrible fear that I can't explain. I have seen 372 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:31.880 nothing from literally sitting up in my bed, and this 373 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:36.559 feeling just overwhelmed that my shair stood up. I could 374 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:41.400 sense that there was something that was so angry outside. 375 00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:44.039 I don't know how to explain that. Like I said, 376 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:46.799 I had the phone meaningly stop when I had the 377 00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:49.839 phone in my hand, so I turned it off and 378 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:52.559 then I see the Knox again. They sound so much 379 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:55.680 further away, and I tried recording it, and I've tried 380 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:58.640 to have that clarified. What's a cell phone inside a room? 381 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:01.039 And by then it was far away, and I'm like, 382 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:04.160 how does something move that far away so quickly? Those 383 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:07.519 are things I can't explain. Again, I'm telling you truth 384 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:09.200 be told, Brian. I'm not going to tell you that 385 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:12.880 was a sasquatch because I never saw anything. I can 386 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:15.680 only tell you what I experienced. I can only tell 387 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:19.240 you how my dogs reacted to it. I don't know 388 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:22.359 what was outside, but I know that it put the 389 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:25.599 fear of God into me and into the dogs. And 390 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:26.680 I don't know what it was. 391 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:30.000 Is that the only kind of experiences that you've had 392 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:32.720 like that, the wood knocking and the vocalizations outside of 393 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:34.240 seeing what you saw when you were a kid. 394 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:37.200 No, since then, that's all abound, all these other things. 395 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:41.039 And I remember this one time that, like I told you, 396 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:43.880 I lived in Maryland. There's a Tumick River that's a 397 00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:48.240 really damous river in our state, and I used to 398 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:51.039 go fishing, like really early in the morning. I was 399 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:53.839 trying to catch fishing stuff. And I remember this one 400 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:57.759 morning where I pronounce and it's not like I'm not 401 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:01.079