Speaker 1: So I'm laying back there, just laying back there.
Speaker 2: I was watching some video on my phone, and I
Speaker 2: decided I was going to start to go back to sleep.
Speaker 1: So I'm laying up there looking up the sky, and
Speaker 1: I see this ball of light and then it moves
Speaker 1: out further and I see these three tiny white lights
Speaker 1: all lined up together, you know, like a ship, like
Speaker 1: a spaceship. And then it kept moving up and down.
Speaker 1: I was just staring at watching it move up and down.
Speaker 1: Then it moves side to side. It was moving on
Speaker 1: these different directions, and then this weirdest thing, it started
Speaker 1: making like shapes of things with the lights. First of all,
Speaker 1: I've never even heard of this before. Secondly, why me.
Speaker 3: I'd like to welcome Jamie to Bigfoot Crossroads. Jamie reached
Speaker 3: out to me via email with a really interesting story
Speaker 3: that had some elements to it that I don't get
Speaker 3: a lot of chances to talk to witnesses about. So
Speaker 3: I was really excited to get him on and uh, yeah, Jamie,
Speaker 3: thanks for joining me.
Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, So I guess I better start at the
Speaker 1: very beginning, well at the very very beginning, because like
Speaker 1: I've always had, you know, interested in Sasquat since I
Speaker 1: was like ten years old. You know, they had TV
Speaker 1: shows on like the IRV Indiana Are You Afraid of
Speaker 1: the Dark? You know. It was the mid to early nineties,
Speaker 1: and so I was really interested in that stuff. And uh,
Speaker 1: I always I think, I swear, I always kind of
Speaker 1: fuck because my parents, my dad's brother and his wife,
Speaker 1: they live out in a very rural area. When we
Speaker 1: would go out there, I always had this weird vibe
Speaker 1: like I almost felt like they're you know, I almost
Speaker 1: felt them watching me at that time, and I could
Speaker 1: feel they have a certain kind of a presence. I
Speaker 1: would say, their their presence to me. What I feel,
Speaker 1: it's it's it depends. Usually I would say intuitively what
Speaker 1: I feel is like about eighty percent of them are
Speaker 1: good and about the twenty percent of them are genuinely
Speaker 1: you know, not right. But you know they give off
Speaker 1: this very loving, very compassionate vibe. But if you you know,
Speaker 1: like these people they go in their territory, they just
Speaker 1: want to scare them out, and that's what happens. But anyway,
Speaker 1: like I said, I will start the beginning of my
Speaker 1: you know, my journey that came to my sighting. So
Speaker 1: I ended up on the street, which is red. This
Speaker 1: is a really weird thing that happens. So but by
Speaker 1: the way, throughout my life had these weird spiritual experiences.
Speaker 1: But when I ended up being homeless in twenty twenty two, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was twenty twenty two, I got kicked out of
Speaker 1: this hotel because there was this badly run hotel and
Speaker 1: they blamed me for something I didn't do, and so
Speaker 1: I ended up I went back to a room where
Speaker 1: my dad was living. I thought maybe i'd try and
Speaker 1: get back to stay with him. So I ended up
Speaker 1: staying the night behind the walmart and I slept back there.
Speaker 1: But anyway, before I even went to sleep, the weirdest
Speaker 1: thing happened. It was so weird. So I'm laying back there,
Speaker 1: just laying back there.
Speaker 2: I was watching some video on my phone, and I
Speaker 2: decided I was going to start to go back to sleep.
Speaker 1: So I'm laying up there looking up the sky, and
Speaker 1: I see this ball of light and then it moves
Speaker 1: out further and I see these three tiny white lights
Speaker 1: all lined up together, you know, like a ship, like
Speaker 1: a spaceship. And then it kept moving up and down,
Speaker 1: and it was moving and then I was just staring
Speaker 1: at watching it move up and down. Then it moved
Speaker 1: side to side, moving on these different directions, and then
Speaker 1: this weirdest thing it started making like shapes of things
Speaker 1: with the lights. And I'm like, first of all, I've
Speaker 1: never even heard of this before. Secondly, why me? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And from the what I do remember about it was
Speaker 1: I remember seeing what they showed me was it appeared
Speaker 1: to be like a man ascending like stairs. And so,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it was a measure. It's about ascension,
Speaker 1: so you know, take that for what it's worth, I guess,
Speaker 1: But so you know, I don't know any I don't
Speaker 1: remember anything else that would happen that night other than
Speaker 1: other than like, so there was another ship. This is
Speaker 1: so great. It was like there was another ship watching it, right,
Speaker 1: There was a bigger ship watching the smaller ship. This
Speaker 1: is like thirty yards away from me because it's the
Speaker 1: back by the walmart. It's about about one hundred yards
Speaker 1: maybe two hundred yards, so it's about thirty yards away
Speaker 1: from me. And I'm like, what, I guess it's just
Speaker 1: watching it. I don't know why, but so, and I
Speaker 1: was weird, why is it? I can't remember it was
Speaker 1: like moving very slowly towards me or we're obviously it
Speaker 1: was just movie slowly, like like I said, just watching.
Speaker 1: So I walked towards it because I was going to
Speaker 1: try and get closer to it. So at some point
Speaker 1: I go, you know what, I'm gonna try to get
Speaker 1: closer to this one. And I got so close to it.
Speaker 1: There was literally like like almost right above me, above
Speaker 1: the tree line, just maybe like a couple of feet
Speaker 1: above the tree line, and I saw this massive thing.
Speaker 1: It was like thirty yards around. It's got it had orange,
Speaker 1: yellow and green lights on the bottom of it. And
Speaker 1: then it just kind of, you know, moved away from
Speaker 1: me at that point, and I'm like, well, that's weird.
Speaker 1: What's also weird, too, is after that, almost every night
Speaker 1: I saw a ship. Like I said in the beginning,
Speaker 1: how I saw the one come out with the three
Speaker 1: little lights. Sometimes I would look up in the sky
Speaker 1: I would see a bunch of them above me and
Speaker 1: I'd be like and again like why is this happening?
Speaker 1: But anyway, so I don't know if they fit together.
Speaker 1: They might the sighting of the loot foot in the UFO.
Speaker 1: So after I saw the UFO, I ended up in
Speaker 1: the shelter again that i'd been in before. Then March
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, I ended up back where I'm
Speaker 1: at now. So at first when I got back here,
Speaker 1: first of all, I felt them with I felt them
Speaker 1: around me. I couldtuitively feel that. And I was hearing
Speaker 1: these weird whistling sounds and I know I've heard that
Speaker 1: before too, that they do the whistling sounds. And I was,
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I felt the beating around me.
Speaker 1: But even before I was there that time, I had
Speaker 1: been there back there before, like the year before, and
Speaker 1: I heard growling outside of the tent and I didn't
Speaker 1: know it was them. I sort of kind of had
Speaker 1: a feeling maybe I knew they. I knew them wouldn't
Speaker 1: hurt me. I definitely got the vibe of like they're
Speaker 1: not going to hurt me. I'm okay, right, So I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, cool, just go back to sleep, you know.
Speaker 1: I But by the way, I had all this junk
Speaker 1: around there, so I think they're probably pissed off that
Speaker 1: I littered their area, which I understand because there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of shit back here. But anyway, but then, like
Speaker 1: I said, I came back here in March of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four last year, I guess, and you know, I'm
Speaker 1: there for a while. I'm there for a few months,
Speaker 1: and then then one night I'm looking out the back
Speaker 1: window and uh, before before I said before that, like
Speaker 1: before I even started talking, I could feel them standing
Speaker 1: around the tent. And I felt a couple of them
Speaker 1: just standing around. And sometimes I'll wake up in the
Speaker 1: middle night I either feel the tent shake or i'd
Speaker 1: like literally feel them rubbing my head. It was the
Speaker 1: weirdest thing. I would literally feel like a huge hand
Speaker 1: rubbed my head right.
Speaker 3: Like inside the tent, not like from the outside.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, right, like a physical hand rubbing my head.
Speaker 1: And it's weird because I had some time after that,
Speaker 1: I ended up listening to a show about a lady
Speaker 1: who had had similar experiences. She was also, you know,
Speaker 1: a reader, intuitive whatever, and she she intuitively communicates with
Speaker 1: these sasquats. She has them on her property. I guess
Speaker 1: you might have heard of Robin Haines McCrae. Yeah, yeah, so,
Speaker 1: but anyway, but yeah, so they were doing all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and then I think they're trying to get me prepared
Speaker 1: for it. I guess I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. But then one night I remember,
Speaker 1: I swear I heard a smaller one running around on
Speaker 1: the snuckles on the you know, in the grass, and
Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, like it felt like it like intuitively,
Speaker 1: I got the vibe of like, this is not like normal.
Speaker 1: I was scared to look outside. And it was a
Speaker 1: little one. Because the little ones, I guess I've heard
Speaker 1: they're more curious and sometimes they're they're sighted, sometimes more
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. But but anyway, what's weird,
Speaker 1: what's really weird is then, like I was telling you before,
Speaker 1: I saw this little one climb the tree. But I
Speaker 1: was looking like I looked out the back window this
Speaker 1: like I said, this is like I think June. So
Speaker 1: I seen it standing there and I could see all
Speaker 1: the hair. It was about three feet tall and for one,
Speaker 1: you know, since obviously I've never seen a big foot before,
Speaker 1: a lot of people they they you know, try to
Speaker 1: explain it away. I was like, well, maybe it's a raccoon.
Speaker 1: I've heard they can climb trees. I read that they
Speaker 1: can whatever and so. But it but it did was
Speaker 1: it shimmed up the tree. It got pretty high. Then
Speaker 1: it went smoothly, by the way, smoothly like an ape
Speaker 1: would smoothly transition to the next tree. And then it
Speaker 1: really shook it hard, and I go, okay, a raccoon
Speaker 1: can't do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's no raccoon.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, okay, then, like so I guess
Speaker 1: this is maybe there's you know, because like I said before, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't explain to you how I ended up back
Speaker 1: here in the first place. So I'm sorry, this is
Speaker 1: I've never done this for by.
Speaker 3: The way, you're you're you're good. I'm just listening.
Speaker 1: So so, so I had I had been in a
Speaker 1: different shelter before that, but I had I had different
Speaker 1: experiences with them. I heard them, but I didn't see
Speaker 1: anything actually saw what do you call it? Tree structure
Speaker 1: kind of thing. It was a well what happened was okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I gotta start from this. So I've been
Speaker 1: homes for a while, man, I mean four years now.
Speaker 1: I mean, so I was at the shelter, right, and
Speaker 1: then I kept feeling this feeling of like, get your tent,
Speaker 1: go live on the woods, just do it. And I
Speaker 1: was like really, and it kept magative me, magative me.
Speaker 1: I go okay, fine, So I did it, and in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, I would here like children
Speaker 1: laughing in the middle of the woods. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is weird because the middle night, middle woods, I
Speaker 1: hear kids laughing. This is very strange. And I I
Speaker 1: I heard bear run by my tent too. A bear.
Speaker 1: I'm in Ohio to northeast Ohio, and there's not really
Speaker 1: bear around here. It might have been then imitating a bear.
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's possible. But what happened was
Speaker 1: this weird thing happened was so where I was at
Speaker 1: you could kind of get lost if you weren't careful,
Speaker 1: and so I ended up getting lost. But it was
Speaker 1: weird when I when I was getting lost, had this
Speaker 1: weird feeling like I went through like a portal or something.
Speaker 1: It was very strange feeling. But so I ended up
Speaker 1: in this area where I want to say it was
Speaker 1: like a kill spot or like a hunting spot, because
Speaker 1: it was very very muddy, and like I said, there
Speaker 1: was like this loopy like it was like a sapling
Speaker 1: that somebody manipulated bend over like a bow. And I
Speaker 1: felt like that was a place where they would get
Speaker 1: the deer and they would kill them. And because I
Speaker 1: kept feeling like I need to get out of here,
Speaker 1: I should be here, so I left. And I don't
Speaker 1: think I don't remember hearing them all that much around
Speaker 1: that timeframe, but I think I was slowly getting introduced
Speaker 1: to them that way. Yeah, And like I said, I
Speaker 1: ended up back here where I'm at now, and then
Speaker 1: I was and you know, it's one of the first
Speaker 1: things that it was. It was like a slow burden.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it, because the first thing I heard,
Speaker 1: they would go like that, just like that, like like
Speaker 1: I know, it's not an owl obviously, you.
Speaker 3: Know, and this is like right by your tent.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, like maybe like ten yards away from me.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that far off. And then they, like I said,
Speaker 1: they would slowly start to come in closer and they
Speaker 1: would make these other they would make other noises. But
Speaker 1: then see, because I went from here, then I went
Speaker 1: to another spot. But when I went to the other spot,
Speaker 1: I swear the little one that I had seen over
Speaker 1: here kind of went over there because only like I think,
Speaker 1: it's like a quarter mile away, And then like he
Speaker 1: would he would come up by my tent like he
Speaker 1: was literally six ft ago. He went like this, he
Speaker 1: goes just like that. And it was weird because he'd
Speaker 1: do it right after I woke up, like literally the
Speaker 1: second after I woke up. I would literally just it
Speaker 1: soapen my eyes. And I heard it, I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, like that had to been that couldn't have
Speaker 1: been like freaking raccoon or anything like that was and
Speaker 1: U And I'm like, wow, that's amazing, Like why are
Speaker 1: they They must really trust me, I must be very
Speaker 1: you know, they must really like me or something. You know.
Speaker 1: The other thing too, is I did talk to them,
Speaker 1: and I feel like this is also important key too
Speaker 1: for people to take away is that if you do
Speaker 1: feel you have squatched around, you talk to them. Be
Speaker 1: firm yet gentle, you know, to say to them, you know,
Speaker 1: if if they're having problems, they're making a lot of noose,
Speaker 1: just be firm saying, you know what, I don't appreciate
Speaker 1: you doing this. This is my property. Can you please
Speaker 1: not do that? You know obviously, you know, and if
Speaker 1: that doesn't work, maybe you have some really not some
Speaker 1: nice squatches maybe, you know. But I talked to them.
Speaker 1: I told them because they I remember I said all
Speaker 1: this shit back here. I actually did feel like they
Speaker 1: were a little upset with me about that, so I
Speaker 1: had to talk to them and try to smooth it
Speaker 1: over as best I can to let them know, You're, like,
Speaker 1: I'm a good person. I care about you guys, I
Speaker 1: actually am here. I would love to help you if
Speaker 1: I could. If I would, I could help you to help,
Speaker 1: you know, because they're knocking down trees. You know, people
Speaker 1: all over are knocking down trees, and I feel like
Speaker 1: that's probably why we're having more and more of these sightings.
Speaker 1: I think they're getting tired of, you know, people doing
Speaker 1: this to their home and and you know, it's like
Speaker 1: man like, they don't they people if they understood how
Speaker 1: gentle these creatures were, they would leave them away alone
Speaker 1: for one thing. They'd leave them alone for nothing. They
Speaker 1: wouldn't do anything with the forest, they'd leave it alone.
Speaker 1: But I think because of all the stuff that their
Speaker 1: humans are doing, they're just like they're tired of it.
Speaker 1: I saw a video whereas big Foot knocked over this
Speaker 1: big tree, and it was obvious this was not Ai.
Speaker 1: You could tell it wasn't Ai. But anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, and it has to happen. I mean,
Speaker 1: eventually we have to evolve to a point where we're
Speaker 1: ready and okay with at least in it. And like
Speaker 1: I said, I feel like like the way that I
Speaker 1: was introducing them, it would be the same with society
Speaker 1: as a whole, be very slow, and it might just
Speaker 1: be just the people that who like us, they're open
Speaker 1: and ready for this kind of communication. Well we'll have that,
Speaker 1: you know. And but you know, like I said, with
Speaker 1: that thing, I only he so the like I said,
Speaker 1: the Sasquatch. It's funny because he really must really like me.
Speaker 1: I kind of felt that too. He's a very rambunctious
Speaker 1: type of child. I guess he's a lot of fun
Speaker 1: it's very you know, he really is a ball. And
Speaker 1: then like he came over there. I moved the third
Speaker 1: time too, and then he even went over there too,
Speaker 1: and he was making the noise and the sound, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, but you know what's funny is like I
Speaker 1: had this recorder and I was playing it, and I
Speaker 1: thought maybe he did that to try to sound like
Speaker 1: the recorder. Yeah, I think that why he was doing it.
Speaker 1: Because you know, they're like behavioral, they're sort of you know,
Speaker 1: it's how anything learns, they imitate something else, anyone or anything.
Speaker 1: But I was at this one shelter. I remember, I
Speaker 1: was telling you that I kept feeling that take my
Speaker 1: tent to go, you know. But what's weird about it
Speaker 1: is the day I decided to go, I coincidentally see
Speaker 1: my dad's girlfriend at the Goodwill in that air which
Speaker 1: is an area that was like thirty miles away from
Speaker 1: my dad. And I don't even think she knew I
Speaker 1: was even there. And you know, I didn't see her
Speaker 1: see her. I saw her, but I don't think she
Speaker 1: saw me. Yeah, but uh, you know, we don't get
Speaker 1: along anyway. So but anyway, but what's also weird is
Speaker 1: twenty minutes before I decided to leave, I saw a
Speaker 1: wolf in someone's car. A wolf what yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: like a wolf in the like they're a wolf pet
Speaker 1: wolf in that passenger seat. I don't wasn't, But this is,
Speaker 1: like I said, man, this is my life. I see
Speaker 1: shit like this all the time. Yeah, So it's not
Speaker 1: even it's just almost it's like predictable now to me,
Speaker 1: it's almost normal.
Speaker 3: And this is something that like, I mean, you were
Speaker 3: into it of whenever you were young, like a kid.
Speaker 3: It's something you've dealt with your whole life.
Speaker 1: It's so much so that I would literally be able
Speaker 1: to communicate with people that have passed on, and I
Speaker 1: literally do that for a living. Was so much of
Speaker 1: a living because I don't make that much money. But
Speaker 1: that's fine, That's just what I need to do right now.
Speaker 1: It's I'm healing quite a bit, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've never probably talked to a hermit before, but I'm
Speaker 1: a hermit. I mean, I've lived on my own in
Speaker 1: the woods for this many years now, and I don't
Speaker 1: talk to anyonever. I don't always keep to myself. I
Speaker 1: basically just talk to my customers and that's it, you know.
Speaker 1: And then and then and then the spirits decide to
Speaker 1: visit me. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: But but do you think that do you think the
Speaker 3: Bigfoot are on the same frequency? Is like the spirit world?
Speaker 1: That's a really good question. I guess that's more of
Speaker 1: a logistic question, I guess I it's I feel like
Speaker 1: it's similar. I don't know that it's the same, but
Speaker 1: it's definitely similar.
Speaker 3: Whenever you're like talking to the spirits or filling the
Speaker 3: spirits around you, does it feel the same as whenever
Speaker 3: it's happening with a bigfoot.
Speaker 1: It's actually, I gotta say it is pretty similar because
Speaker 1: I think your brain waves have to go to like
Speaker 1: an alpha state or seta or something like that, and
Speaker 1: then you know, so they're probably always there. So once
Speaker 1: you're there meeting them, you know, you can kind of
Speaker 1: and definitely fiel one right behind me right now. Again,
Speaker 1: you know, I think because they know they know, they
Speaker 1: know what's going on. They know what's going on. So
Speaker 1: let me see. You don't want to see if maybe
Speaker 1: they have any messages, maybe there's something you want to Okay,
Speaker 1: let me let me see if they want to say anything.
Speaker 1: We're not as bad as you think we are. We're not.
Speaker 1: You must understand that, be aware of your own intentions,
Speaker 1: beware of your own intentions, and be always intentful when
Speaker 1: you go out to the woods to communicate, be very
Speaker 1: clear in your intention, and have respect, because if you
Speaker 1: don't have solid respect, then you know, and it can happen.
Speaker 1: You know, they really appreciate people when they're respectful and
Speaker 1: if they honor the nature that they're in, and that's
Speaker 1: really important for them. They very much honor nature nature
Speaker 1: to them is everything. It really is everything. It's a
Speaker 1: way of life, you know, and it's they're just they're
Speaker 1: very compassionate creatures, they really are. They truly care about us,
Speaker 1: but they can't help us unless we're being if we're
Speaker 1: not open enough for them to help us, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, to be clearly, very honest
Speaker 1: with you. I'm starting to remember being back here with them,
Speaker 1: and I felt so much love and compassion from them.
Speaker 1: It was incredible. Like I just like I felt like
Speaker 1: I was being held sometimes at night, Like I literally
Speaker 1: felt they would hold me sometimes and I'd be like wow,
Speaker 1: And I felt there was a female around too, and
Speaker 1: she was just very motherly towards me, and it was
Speaker 1: really really beautiful. And also too, this is really crazy,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you've ever heard of this.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever heard of this, but they
Speaker 1: left handprints at the pavilion where I hang out at.
Speaker 1: There's this little park and there's a pavilion there, but
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, so there's like you know, like a
Speaker 1: roof or whatever. You're like a and then like on
Speaker 1: the inside there's like also a flat roof, you know,
Speaker 1: with all wood and everything, and they freaking pushed up
Speaker 1: on the paneling. They're like, I here them laughing, like
Speaker 1: you push it up on the palel, like they literally Okay,
Speaker 1: So like in the front of it, the front part
Speaker 1: of it, it's pushed up where you can see like
Speaker 1: there's a gap in between the you know, the wood
Speaker 1: and everything. And then they did the same thing in
Speaker 1: the back of it and like almost like it, you know,
Speaker 1: it blinds up, you know, with the same whatever. And
Speaker 1: then there's hamprints there. There's fucking ambrids like the oil
Speaker 1: and shit, it's oil oil like the inside of the roof, right,
Speaker 1: So you like if you just stand in the building,
Speaker 1: you look up, you can see them, huh, And it's
Speaker 1: like wow. And there's even like when someone pointed this
Speaker 1: out to me, I didn't even think of it, but
Speaker 1: they took their loom to their foot and pushed up
Speaker 1: there's toe prints out there. Wow.
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if the handprint thing is kind of almost
Speaker 3: like a signature of theirs, because I've heard about them
Speaker 3: leaving handprints like that other places, right, Yeah, And like
Speaker 3: a lot of the things that you're saying about them
Speaker 3: are things that I've heard from other people who've experienced
Speaker 3: them in a similar way as you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all around us. Oh there. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't think they'd even be in this area, but
Speaker 1: they're everywhere. I guess they really are everywhere. I was doubtful,
Speaker 1: but I mean they are really everywhere. Oh that's mine.
Speaker 1: This isn't due, dude, This is insane. What I'm about
Speaker 1: to tell you is insane. All right. So I was
Speaker 1: sleeping in my tent right like this is this is
Speaker 1: the third time I'd moved. But anyway, so I'm laying
Speaker 1: there sleeping. It's it's the fall, I believe was the fall.
Speaker 1: I'm laying there close right up to the tent wall
Speaker 1: in the middle of the I feel this big finger
Speaker 1: tap on the middle of my forehead, right where my
Speaker 1: third eye is, and I'm like, what the hell? I
Speaker 1: mean it was a huge finger. I mean it was like,
Speaker 1: there's no way that was human.
Speaker 3: Do you think that they know that you have these
Speaker 3: abilities and that's why they like reached out to you
Speaker 3: like that?
Speaker 1: They absolutely know they hundred percent. Now, like I said,
Speaker 1: since I was a child, they they've kind of been
Speaker 1: around me. I didn't know because Like I said, I
Speaker 1: didn't understand what I was feeling when I would be
Speaker 1: around them when I was little. I didn't because you know,
Speaker 1: we had a big wooded area around my school too,
Speaker 1: and I and I felt them around there too, and
Speaker 1: I didn't even know it. Actually, now that i'm remembering,
Speaker 1: my very very first sighting was right over there by
Speaker 1: my old school. I actually ended up, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: outside again. Yeah, I was in the tent and I
Speaker 1: woke up in the middle of night. I saw the
Speaker 1: things shadow through the tent, the tent wall or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, what the hell like? And then
Speaker 1: just it disappeared. I'm like, geez it's I was not
Speaker 1: expecting it for one thing either, because well, there are
Speaker 1: deer around there, so I mean, you know, there's definitely deer.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is Ohio. It was supposed to be
Speaker 1: like a hotspot for them too.
Speaker 3: I guess lots of sightings in Ohio. It's something that
Speaker 3: I honestly thought about before someone in your situation, you know,
Speaker 3: in these different I want to say, encampments or whatever,
Speaker 3: you know, and just homeless areas where people camp out
Speaker 3: in the woods. Like I've always been curious if they
Speaker 3: have interactions with these things, if the bigfoot come around them,
Speaker 3: Because I think there's a lot of people that end
Speaker 3: up there because they might have a situation where they
Speaker 3: are intuitive or have abilities and you know, trying to
Speaker 3: deal with it and everything and living outside of society
Speaker 3: and everything. And I think bigfoot have a way of
Speaker 3: picking up on people just like you're saying they do.
Speaker 3: You know, their intent and everything, and a lot of
Speaker 3: those people would be much more approachable than hunters or
Speaker 3: anybody else out in the woods.
Speaker 1: You know. I've heard they like to smell a weed too.
Speaker 1: I was there. I agree with that because when I
Speaker 1: used to smoke when I would be back here, I
Speaker 1: swear they came around me more often than they normally would.
Speaker 1: I've heard of stories where people have left beer for them.
Speaker 1: They drank the beer and they just and they left
Speaker 1: the kids.
Speaker 3: Huh. I wanted to ask you about the one that
Speaker 3: you saw climb the tree, like did you get a
Speaker 3: good look at it? Like what was it like daylight
Speaker 3: all nighttime?
Speaker 1: Or yeah, it was it was nighttime. I basically saw
Speaker 1: the outline in the shadow of it. You know, it
Speaker 1: was about I guess about thirty yards away. You know,
Speaker 1: like I see they I could see the hair eye,
Speaker 1: I could see it's obviously I could see the hair
Speaker 1: at least, you know, what was like a shadowy figure
Speaker 1: type of deal right where you just kind of see
Speaker 1: the outline of it. But yeah, I did see that.
Speaker 1: And you know, like I said, being back here before,
Speaker 1: I had seen another shadow. I just remember earlier that
Speaker 1: we did see another shadow of one, but it was
Speaker 1: just a shadow. But like again, I feel like it
Speaker 1: was like maybe like a a snapshadow what I'd be
Speaker 1: seeing later on, like they had. They actually are super clever.
Speaker 1: They literally it's almost like they're in your head and
Speaker 1: they know how to approach you. Sometimes if you're willing
Speaker 1: and ready, they'll do it very, very subtly so that
Speaker 1: you don't freak out. I think. I think they just
Speaker 1: don't want you to freak out because they don't want
Speaker 1: to scare you. I don't want to scare well sometimes
Speaker 1: they sometimes they do. We know stories about that, But
Speaker 1: I never had any. I mean, like I said, though,
Speaker 1: other than the growling one, I don't really ever have.
Speaker 1: I didn't have any really, I don't know, you know what.
Speaker 1: I think maybe because I left them fruit. Maybe that
Speaker 1: one tapped me on the head. Maybe it was maybe
Speaker 1: wanted more fruit. Maybe that's why he tapped me on
Speaker 1: the head. I don't know, I've never heard of that before.
Speaker 1: I never heard of a oh you no, I think
Speaker 1: I did hear one story where they I'm sure they
Speaker 1: do touch people, we just don't hear about it all
Speaker 1: the time. But I mean, I felt really blessed that
Speaker 1: that that squatch felt like tapping me on the forehead.
Speaker 1: Oddly enough, it was right on my third eye too,
Speaker 1: so maybe he kind of activated me in a certain way.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Whenever you saw it go from tree to tree, was
Speaker 3: it just like you know we see apes do on television,
Speaker 3: like arm over arm?
Speaker 1: Pretty much? Yeah, it was. It was, that's what. But yeah,
Speaker 1: But of course, when you're when you're when you're saying something,
Speaker 1: you still kind of like you can't. You still are like,
Speaker 1: maybe I could explain the way somehow this can't be
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But then you know, I go, well,
Speaker 1: I guess that's what it is. Yeah, you know, well,
Speaker 1: I mean I would say, just as it aside that
Speaker 1: what they do do and I've heard stories about this,
Speaker 1: and I can test to this. They'll send animals to
Speaker 1: check you up. They'll like, I don't know, maybe sometimes,
Speaker 1: like I said before, maybe the animals helped you adjust.
Speaker 1: Because I had this really weird experience where there was
Speaker 1: a rabbit directly in front of my tent and I
Speaker 1: unzipped the thing. Well, it had already been just the
Speaker 1: window was open, right, So I looked down at it,
Speaker 1: it looked up at me and just stayed there and
Speaker 1: I'm like, why is this thing moving? That's weird, you know.
Speaker 1: So I think sometimes they send animals to to check
Speaker 1: on you, you know, to just investigate you. And you know,
Speaker 1: when they're around, sometimes you see random's animals really randomly,
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't expect. And also too, I've heard stories
Speaker 1: that they have an ability to even transform into animals,
Speaker 1: which I mean could happen, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if they have the abilities we're talking
Speaker 3: about where they can get in your head, you know,
Speaker 3: it's not a matter of even physically having to turn
Speaker 3: into another animal. They can just mentally project that that
Speaker 3: they're turning into another animal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's what it is. Right.
Speaker 3: I've heard stories of people seeing them, you know, go
Speaker 3: back and forth into a deer and you know, turning
Speaker 3: back into a Bigfoot. And then there's also a lot
Speaker 3: of stories about them having animals with them during the siding,
Speaker 3: especially coyotes.
Speaker 1: For some reason, it's weird because I've always been obsessed
Speaker 1: with coyotes. I always thought like, I can have a
Speaker 1: coyote for a pet. One day. I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1: If there's more, let me just think first. Se And
Speaker 1: because there are more messages, they want to relay. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I generally feel the frustration with humans, but
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's a given. But they it's like
Speaker 1: they keep reiterating this thing about respect and being aware
Speaker 1: of your surroundings and that this is their home. That's
Speaker 1: their home. You are in their home. See. It's funny
Speaker 1: because here in Ohio, at least in this area, everyone's
Speaker 1: obsessed with it's their property, my property, that property. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it's not your property, buddy, it's not it's their property.
Speaker 1: They're letting you live there, and uh, you know, actually
Speaker 1: it's really weird, dude. This is really odd because this
Speaker 1: morning I was in McDonald's and this guy was talking
Speaker 1: to this lady and he was saying something weird sounds
Speaker 1: outside last night, and he didn't know what it was,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is the weirdest thing I've heard
Speaker 1: being because around here you never hear stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You know, people ladies are Oh god, I couldn't. I
Speaker 1: got I was scared. I went back it. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: made went outside there with a flash the last night.
Speaker 1: I would have maybe done something, but I would well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would. Just I want to give some a little advice,
Speaker 1: and I'm giving you some advices. I've had connections with
Speaker 1: these big thoughts, big foughts. Okay, So if you really
Speaker 1: want to connect with them, first of all, be in
Speaker 1: their area. Don't don't like they hate when you tried
Speaker 1: doing that. They don't like the whoops that much. They
Speaker 1: don't really like the tree knocks. If you want to
Speaker 1: track them, just sit in nature in a tent or
Speaker 1: whatever you got, or around the fire, enjoy yourself. Just
Speaker 1: listen to some music. They love music. By the way,
Speaker 1: affect that I didn't mentionin that, but when I was
Speaker 1: listening like Michael Jackson and stuff, they really were digging it.
Speaker 1: I could feel them. They were like bomb into it,
Speaker 1: and you know, they were really happy about it. I
Speaker 1: loved it, and like, especially like song I listened like
Speaker 1: Heal the World. They really love that song, you know.
Speaker 1: And but you know, it's like, if you want to
Speaker 1: really connect with them, get yourself in a place where
Speaker 1: you're really open to anything that might happen, and make
Speaker 1: sure that you you have an intent, a loving intention,
Speaker 1: you know, and then that way you'll have more of
Speaker 1: a better experience too. You know. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: really anything else you could really do. I mean fire,
Speaker 1: I get to probably like fire too, but you know,
Speaker 1: just in laughter. They like laughter, they like playing jokes.
Speaker 1: I mean, we all heard of that stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's it, you know, just just if you
Speaker 2: want to connect with them, be kind, be loving also
Speaker 2: to like if you want to be like, they like
Speaker 2: animals too, so I feel like a doll with you
Speaker 2: that might be more attracted to that because they like,
Speaker 2: they like animals.
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know what to say other
Speaker 1: than that, But yeah, thank you so much, Matt. This
Speaker 1: has been awesome. Like I finally had to talk about
Speaker 1: of the UFO stuff, because that's crazy, Like every single night,
Speaker 1: if I look up at the sky, I literally do
Speaker 1: see that. I don't know if that's really good or
Speaker 1: really bad. I think it's really good just from what
Speaker 1: I remember. Why else because okay, so let's just say,
Speaker 1: for instance, if this is the government that's watching you,
Speaker 1: they're not going to show you shapes in the sky
Speaker 1: like that. They're not going to do that more than likely,
Speaker 1: not unless they're really unless they really want to get you,
Speaker 1: like unless they really think that I'm super psychic and
Speaker 1: they want to like capture me. But anyway, you talk
Speaker 1: to a hermit, now, how do you feel. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3: It's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. Yeah, Thank you so much again, man,
Speaker 1: this has been really incredible. Thank you so much.
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