WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.320 Welcome to Spacing Out with BB and Jason this week, 2 00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:09.080 covering Foundation season three, episode three, When a Book finds You. 3 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:17.239 Welcome to Spacy now. I'm BB and. 4 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:20.719 I'm Jason, and we are discussing the Apple TV sci 5 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:25.000 fi series Foundation, one episode at a time, covering season 6 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:27.839 three week to week, and you might be listening to 7 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:30.120 this on our Foundation podcast, but you can also check 8 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:32.439 out our main channel, Spacing Out with Phoebe and Jason. 9 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:35.240 We've covered all sorts of shows on there, including this one. 10 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:37.560 And you're also welcome the right into us if you want. 11 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:38.359 We never really. 12 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:40.759 Mentioned that, but oh yeah, communicate. 13 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:42.600 The channels are open. No one ever writes in but 14 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:46.320 you never know. In this episode, the origins of Don's 15 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:49.280 interest in psychohistory is revealed, with its first meeting years 16 00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:52.000 ago with a projection of Gail Dornick in the present. 17 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:55.439 Gail request Don enclosed Kalgan to stimy the Mules. Ascent 18 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:59.439 the Foundations, Captain Pritcher uses Torn Mallow and Beta as 19 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:01.960 a way into a lavish mule party. Believe that they're 20 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:05.120 becoming overcome. After angering the mule at the party, Torn 21 00:01:05.159 --> 00:01:09.519 and Beta escape with his mysterid musician Magnifico Giganticus the 22 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:12.480 Mule begins reprisals to punish those who did not prevent 23 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:15.760 the escape on trent Or. Fearing the imminent end of history, 24 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:19.519 Day seeks the Imperial Garrison's help to leave Tranto. Pervertly 25 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:22.920 thwarted from stronger action against Calgrin by his brothers, Don 26 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:27.280 is only able to order continued surveillance, and Demerzelle removes 27 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:31.480 Dave's companion's song after he reveals to her Demerzal's true nature. 28 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:37.799 Vive check did we like the episode overall? 29 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:38.439 All? Right? 30 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:40.040 Three episodes in, How are we doing? 31 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:42.079 I like it? That's pretty good. 32 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:43.040 It is. 33 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:48.400 I'm like, there's turns and twists and the characters are activating. 34 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:50.680 So I'm very excited. 35 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:53.560 Yeah, just going to repeat what I've said before, but 36 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:56.719 like all the storylines are engaging. Every time I know 37 00:01:57.040 --> 00:02:00.079 switches to something else, I'm just as interested as the 38 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:03.159 there's so yeah, it's a lot of fun and it's 39 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:05.680 I feel like it's firing on all cylinders. 40 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:09.319 And I'm down for this ride. That first season of Foundation, 41 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:11.680 I was like, I don't know, dude, this is some 42 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:14.280 nerd shit that I can't get on board with, but 43 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:16.439 this one I feel like is approachable. 44 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:19.840 Yeah, it kind of sucks if, like, if you want 45 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:22.759 to share the show with someone, you're like convinced them 46 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:25.199 to get through season one. Yeah, because I don't think 47 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:27.520 you can understand the show without seeing it. 48 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:30.080 Yeah, you kind of have to watch season one. 49 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:32.680 Yeah, this episode continued to be good. 50 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:38.879 Trivia time. What facts or news could we uncover for 51 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:40.039 When a Book Finds You? 52 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:44.319 This was Foundation season three, episode three, When a Book 53 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:47.479 Finds You. This originally aired on July twenty fifth, twenty 54 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:51.120 twenty five, written by Eric Carrasco and Greg Gates and 55 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:53.919 directed by Tim Southand who's the same director as the 56 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:56.599 last episode. So the only writer we haven't talked about 57 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:59.319 before is Greg Gates, who is a writer known for 58 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:02.159 the Sandman series on Netflix and has also had a 59 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:04.639 career as a script supervisor. And then just checking in 60 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:07.280 on the what the critical reception of the season's been 61 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:10.759 so far, And it's been really positive on Rotten Tomatoes, 62 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:13.280 the seasons out an eighty eight percent. It's a little 63 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:15.759 bit down from last season, and in my opinion, I 64 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:17.960 think this is actually coming in stronger than how last 65 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:21.960 season started. Yeah, and the other review aggregators are kind 66 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:24.719 of around that point as well. This episode is also 67 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:27.759 flagged on IMDb as one of the top rated episodes. 68 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:30.240 They kind of keep track of you a handful of 69 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:31.719 episodes that are at the top of the list, so 70 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:33.800 this is one of the best ones according to the 71 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:35.000 ratings on IMDb. 72 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:42.400 Deep Space Dive. Let's break down some of our thoughts 73 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:45.560 on the episode. You can share your thoughts with us 74 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:49.319 through email or social media. We may use your comments 75 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:50.759 on an upcoming episode. 76 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:53.520 Well, this episode starts in the library. 77 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:55.039 Well a library. 78 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:56.680 All good adventures start there. 79 00:03:56.879 --> 00:04:02.280 Yeah, it's like Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode. Those kids 80 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:07.919 are always in the library. Yeah. Brother Don is like, 81 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:11.800 I want to read this book that got us into 82 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:16.519 all of this, And apparently anybody who asks for this 83 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:18.920 book gets to meet Gail Dornick. 84 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:24.279 Yeah, it's like a herd dating service. Yeah, connect me 85 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:25.399 to anyone who's into this. 86 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:33.120 Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, must love dogs and psychohistory. And 87 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:36.680 she literally does go on a date with him this restaurant, 88 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:37.639 at this tea house. 89 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:40.680 Yeah. At times it seemed like this is a little plurity, 90 00:04:40.759 --> 00:04:41.120 isn't it. 91 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:44.279 Yeah, And he's like, how are you three hundred years old, 92 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:46.959 and she's like, oh, you know, I cry a sleep, 93 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:54.680 I moisturize. I like this. I like that she kind 94 00:04:54.680 --> 00:05:02.639 of educated him on previous downs and what they like 95 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:06.399 nature is in some cases where he sees them as 96 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:11.160 traders because that's what he was, like that, that's the propaganda, 97 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:13.759 that's what he was, that's what he learned. But she 98 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:15.680 called them independent thinkers. 99 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:18.000 She offered a different perspective on them. 100 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:21.759 Yeah, and she says, you know, when you reach this age, 101 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:25.560 certain versions of you are looking for an out. And 102 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:29.279 I wish we could see what happened to the og 103 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:33.560 Dawn that escaped with the Cloud Princess. They brought him up, 104 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:36.120 and I'm like, man, we need a flashback or a 105 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:39.800 flash forward, or we need to see that dynasty or 106 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:41.199 what happened with that. 107 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:45.000 Yeah, Like is is he just a reference point to 108 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:47.519 move this character along the ways? Or But I feel 109 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:49.879 like they made such a big deal about like them 110 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:52.040 like desterilizing him or whatever they did. 111 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:55.079 Mm hmmm. So there's I want to see his descendants. 112 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:58.720 I saw Hobo Mellows, which I never thought i'd care about. 113 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:02.759 The thing is that, like the universe doesn't know that 114 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:07.319 these that Empire went rogues that one time, because as 115 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:11.639 they were escaping, they had sent out those proxy like 116 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:16.759 people to go out and like say, hey, we're here, 117 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:18.240 We're queer. Get used to it. 118 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:19.639 Yeah, So it. 119 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:22.839 Was just like it's kind of like a secret that 120 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:28.519 they left. Speaking of secrets, brother day let a big 121 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:33.160 one out. Yeah, So I know I'm jumping forward a lot, 122 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:33.959 but well. 123 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:37.079 Let me just say about Gail just seems so freaking 124 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:38.079 cool in that meeting. 125 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:41.600 Yeah, just like laid back, like meaning back in the chair, 126 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:45.000 Like I could almost see her like with a cigarette, Like, 127 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:48.040 so you want to work for the foundation? 128 00:06:52.399 --> 00:06:54.600 I'm like, is this how Gail is going to be 129 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:57.800 leading without Harry over his shoulder? Because I like it? 130 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:00.879 I do too, I really do. And then when she 131 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:04.160 finds out that Harry Selden gave away the prime radiant 132 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:05.879 and she's like that motherfucker. 133 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:08.240 Oh yeah. That's the other thing is that, like she 134 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:11.040 didn't have all the information going into that meeting either. 135 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:17.279 So now that she knows Drumoselre Demerzelle, yeah damn well, 136 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:20.920 you know, mispronouncing a white woman's name. Equality. 137 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:25.040 But she spent a lot of season two calling your 138 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:28.160 Demerzal or something, but it's Demerzel Demersal. 139 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:31.279 Anyway, She's got the prime radiant and I like that. 140 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:33.680 He was like, I remember the first time I saw it, 141 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:36.279 I was five years old, which means she's had it 142 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:38.319 for a while. She's had it for a long time, 143 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:40.879 for many decades, maybe even oh. 144 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:44.480 Yeah, we're like two hundred and fifty years past last season, 145 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:47.079 So she's been working on it long before he was born. 146 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:50.839 And now he has insight that she doesn't. And it's 147 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:53.720 very interesting to see their dynamic when they're in that 148 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:56.279 throne room, because she's like, no, we got to worry 149 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:59.199 about the counsel and he's like, honey, the mule is 150 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:03.160 the problem. And he's trying to, like, you know, convince 151 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:06.399 them that they need to do this thing without giving 152 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:10.759 away that he's being influenced by an outside source. What 153 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:12.519 a tangled web they weave. 154 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:16.160 Yeah, so everyone else thinks he's been because pirate. 155 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:20.360 Yeah, he's been overly cautious and he's maybe trying to 156 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:25.040 flex because he's the new day around the corner. 157 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:27.079 Yeah, like you have power, you just want to use 158 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:27.720 the military. 159 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:32.799 So it just I can feel like I relate to 160 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:35.559 that feeling where you're the only person in the room 161 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.200 who's like sounding the alarm and nobody's listening. Like it's 162 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:44.279 so hard to feel alone in that moment, knowing that 163 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:47.960 you're right, knowing that there's like like this is the 164 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:51.840 reason that the world is going to end, and like 165 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.480 saying like we need to be cautious because there's a 166 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:57.039 rumor that he can control your mind. Oh, or to 167 00:08:57.159 --> 00:09:00.000 hear that rumor, Don, well, you know it's a rumor. Yeah, 168 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:04.159 it's very interesting. So I don't know. It's just like 169 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:08.320 I like that he's kind of like walking this very 170 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:12.799 thin line of like trying to be influential without overstepping 171 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:17.159 his position and role at this time. So I really 172 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:20.240 liked Don in this one that he did really well. 173 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:23.320 Yeah. And then as you were saying about brother Day, 174 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:27.080 he's you know, very close with song Oh yeah, to 175 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:29.159 the point where he is willing to well he. 176 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:33.720 Thinks he's close because he doesn't even know where she's from. Yeah, Well, 177 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:36.159 I mean they've been hanging out for six months. 178 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:39.679 That could be on her part, like maintaining her secret 179 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:42.039 because it's illegal for her to be part of that religion. 180 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:45.840 Yeah, And I mean his reaction to like, having a 181 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:50.399 robot in the house isn't the same as hers, probably like, 182 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:54.960 but damn, that's like he's been burying his soul. He's 183 00:09:55.000 --> 00:10:00.600 been telling like empire's secrets to this woman, and she 184 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:03.799 won't even tell him. I believe in robots. I think 185 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:05.240 there are saviors yep. 186 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:08.159 But so it's it's unclear what her reaction really is 187 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:11.960 at first when she learns about Demersal, But she suddenly 188 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:14.120 she like wants to stay in the palace and be 189 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:18.200 like around her because she believes that the robots are 190 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:20.679 coming back as their saviors or something like that. 191 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:24.159 Yeah, well, and maybe they might be. I mean, there 192 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:29.519 might be some grain of truth to that, if Demersal 193 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:35.799 wasn't so help bent on like preserving empire but preserving 194 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:40.200 humanity instead. But I think, what's who's to say that 195 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:45.919 those two are not intrinsically like entangled and connected. Who's 196 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:48.240 I mean? I don't know, though, a fall of an 197 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:53.679 empire doesn't mean the fall of humanity necessarily. It just 198 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:57.919 means that humanity will suffer for you know, a period 199 00:10:57.919 --> 00:11:02.840 of time to recover from losing things that empire can bring. 200 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:08.120 Because I think it's complicated. We think of empire as 201 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:12.919 this like big evil like thing, but you have to think, 202 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:17.720 like it's also this agency of like providing some sort 203 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:19.279 of stability to the people. 204 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:24.399 Yeah, it's it's structure. Yeah, so for good and bad. Yeah, 205 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:27.320 like lose that like that. That's what the the idea 206 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:30.480 of the foundation is that like empire will fall and 207 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.080 we're going to minimize the suffering that comes with it. 208 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:37.200 Yeah, it's just like I think a good like governing 209 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:43.519 body should be made to where even if the governing people, 210 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:48.519 the people on top, are unavailable, the other parts of 211 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.240 it will still move on, move forward. Like my my 212 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:55.200 main thing is like even if there's not a president, 213 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:58.120 we should still have a post office. Even if there's 214 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.639 not a president, we should still have education department, you know, 215 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:04.679 like things like that. Like, to me, that's what makes 216 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:10.120 a good like government or empire or whatever you may 217 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:13.639 call it. That Like, even though there's not a king 218 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:16.759 in place, the people will still be able to live 219 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:19.279 their day to day lives and access their day to 220 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:25.240 day like infrastructure, like life will go on without the emperor. 221 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:29.120 But I think the way that dem Rezol sees it 222 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:32.200 is that you know, and I think maybe she's changing 223 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:36.919 on it because she did kill a couple of them, 224 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:41.759 where maybe the Empire isn't just the people on the throne, 225 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:46.679 you know, So I don't know, I'm very interested to 226 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:50.159 see the challenges that the Empire will face with this 227 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:53.360 new player on the board. As Gail said, the mule 228 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:55.759 is on the board, so it's kind of like a 229 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:59.279 chess game. There was a moment in they're of just 230 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:03.600 like the Empires, just hanging out, sharing that drink and 231 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:05.960 that tradition, and it was just really nice to see 232 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.720 them all together kind of as brothers in a way. 233 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:13.120 I thought it was interesting that they did not engage 234 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:18.440 in that commodittory until Demrisol left. Yeah, like they kind 235 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:21.879 of like loosen their tie and unbutton their shirts and 236 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:25.279 kind of like we're family, and their version of a 237 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:29.600 family of like this like idea of passing down a 238 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:34.799 tradition and having like a positive male role model show 239 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:37.840 you that, like not everything has to be so serious. 240 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:41.799 Yeah, And with these versions of them this season, you know, 241 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:45.039 they've largely been kind of at odds with each other, 242 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:47.799 maybe not Don in Dusk as much, but somewhat in 243 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:50.480 this episode too. So it's just nice to see that 244 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:53.480 they do have that closeness and that capability of that 245 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:56.039 mm hmmm, which will probably make it hurt a little 246 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:59.600 more when whatever inevitably rips them apart throughout the season. 247 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:02.639 Well, you have one of them wanting to run away, 248 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:06.240 and then the other one is committing treason, and then 249 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:09.039 the oldest one has a fucking death star. 250 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:13.279 That's true, and is trying to escape death too. 251 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:17.639 Yeah, somehow escape death while bringing death. What a What 252 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:22.000 a juxtaposition of an existence. So yeah, I think it's 253 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:25.240 gonna be very interesting to see. I think it's it's 254 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:29.320 definitely setting us up for some sort of like tragic 255 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:36.440 family dispute or like their their relationship that seems tight 256 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:41.440 and close knit even through their differences, it's going to 257 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:44.679 be ripped apart by all of these different things pulling 258 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:48.480 them in these different directions. So I'm very I love that. 259 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:53.080 I love that, Like I think relational tensions are so 260 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:59.399 much more exciting than like war fighting or whatever. I 261 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:05.559 think that dynamics between personalities and having like establishing that 262 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:08.440 closeness I think is gonna hurt more when they do 263 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:11.000 finally tear apart. So I kind of love that. 264 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:14.879 I love that little bit of levity about the geirafe 265 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:19.279 the grass. Yeah, that was good, right before the Merzil 266 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:20.120 breaks it. 267 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:23.559 Down that your girlfriend loves robots and she gave me 268 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:26.600 the I love robots sign and I had to erase 269 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:29.039 our memory. You're lucky at inn killer, And I think 270 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:31.600 part of it was also that she like likes that 271 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:37.919 those people exist. Okay, you guys like robots, Well, I'll 272 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:38.480 let you live. 273 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:43.240 Yeah. So that's where we ended the episode, right, It 274 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:46.600 was that revealing day being pissed off. So I wonder 275 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:47.840 what his next move is. 276 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:51.559 Is he still well, he already entangled that guard. Yeah, 277 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:54.279 and that guard has the memory of them making a plan, 278 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:57.960 and he the guard needs his daughter to be saved. 279 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:01.480 Regardless of whether or not this motherfucker wants to leave 280 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:04.879 or stay. He already promised that he would save his daughter. 281 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:09.120 It just sucks that he can't escape with his lover. 282 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:12.480 And honestly, that's all she was is a lover because 283 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:15.000 she wasn't a partner to him. She was more like 284 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:18.440 a drug dealer that gave him drugs and sex in 285 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:22.200 order for her to survive and have her memory for longer. 286 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:26.519 I think she was very I think she was kind 287 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:28.720 of playing him in a way. I don't know if 288 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:31.559 she ever really loved him, if she never revealed herself 289 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:35.080 to him like that. Because if my partner that I 290 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:40.240 trusted and loved told me that his nanny advisor is 291 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:43.759 a robot and I love robots, I'd be like, oh, man, 292 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:47.200 you know what I have to tell you. I love robots. 293 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:49.799 I know you hate them, but I love them. I 294 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.759 believe there are saviors, and I think we should stay. 295 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:55.639 Like to tell you why I believe we should stay, 296 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:57.639 Not Oh, I think we should stay. I think it's 297 00:16:57.679 --> 00:16:59.440 not it's not a bad idea to just kind of 298 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:00.519 hang out a little longer. 299 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:02.799 Well, I mean, she might have gotten to that point, 300 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:04.839 but they were kind of interrupted. 301 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:08.119 Because she gave the symbol she she should have also 302 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:13.319 like stayed chill, like she was obviously enthusiastic enough to 303 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:18.000 give out away her position to a damn robot, but 304 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:21.880 not to her partner who she's been sleeping with for 305 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:24.319 the last six months. That's fucked up. I don't know. 306 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:26.559 It makes me feel like I could never trust her, 307 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:29.480 even if she had her memories, even if she even 308 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:33.359 if fucking the robot lady didn't say shit, Because God 309 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:35.680 wouldn't that be a plot twist if they like, if 310 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:37.559 she's like, okay, I'll be your savior. 311 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:41.079 Yeah, but my question is is Day going to go 312 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:43.799 try to track her down now using his escape route 313 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:46.200 and go after her, try to get her memory back. 314 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:47.960 We know that possibilities out there. 315 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:48.759 Yeah. 316 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:52.160 He also suggested that they put their fingers in their 317 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:54.440 little buttoles. What do you miss that line? 318 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:55.240 Yeah? 319 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:57.480 He said, if you're gonna he's talking when they're in 320 00:17:57.480 --> 00:17:59.960 the throne room, huh said, if we're gonna poke hole 321 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:02.279 and things, I was just starting with your little buttholes. 322 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:03.839 At least you get some pleasure out of it. 323 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:07.960 Oh he said that, Oh my god, that's funny. Who's 324 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:12.680 poking holes and things? Okay, that's interesting. I think that 325 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:13.799 should be your outline. 326 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:17.160 So there was a party. 327 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:21.559 On the Pleasure Planet cling on what's that planet called? 328 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:25.839 It's what the keke Kegan Cake Calgan. The Pleasure Planet 329 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:30.119 has parties. What a novelty. What was weird was that 330 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.039 there was a young person drinking. Yeah, that was you know, 331 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:39.160 like holy shit, like another level of like just evil 332 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:43.880 added to the mule. Like I mean he was evil already. 333 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:47.160 We we know that he's a bad guy, But to 334 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:50.759 bring a child to that environment and let them drink 335 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:55.559 and encourage them to drink, I just can't. I can't, 336 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:58.640 I can't. I hate this guy so much. I hate 337 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:02.039 him so much, and he's so scary. And I told 338 00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:05.119 you that guy from the Foundation was from Second Foundation. 339 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:08.240 I still don't think that's true. We saw him in 340 00:19:08.279 --> 00:19:09.279 the first episode. 341 00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:12.839 But he has brain powers. Yes, that's not part of 342 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:15.759 the Foundation. That's part of foundation too. We need to 343 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:17.079 rewatch all the episodes. 344 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.880 In the first episode, he was with the original Foundation 345 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:24.839 talking to their mayor and stuff and oh yeah, Craters 346 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:26.920 and the other Mallow. 347 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:31.079 I just don't. I cannot believe that there is somebody 348 00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:36.480 with special abilities in this the first Foundation. It's very 349 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:39.400 hard to believe that. I associate that purely with the 350 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:43.160 Second Foundation because that's what they've cultivated and what they've encouraged. 351 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:47.240 So I don't know. I'm confused. I'm confused. Why would 352 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:50.759 they would give this character those special abilities? And then 353 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:53.960 he approaches the mule, and the mule clocks him and 354 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:57.440 he's like, who's Gail Dornick? Tell me more and he's like, 355 00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:00.000 fuck that, And then his eyeball got dirty and he left. 356 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:03.559 Yeah, so I don't know, we didn't get much of him, No, 357 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:07.680 Von Pritchard's that really understand? Like does he know Gail? 358 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:10.400 Well, everybody in the Foundation knows Gail. 359 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:12.559 Knows of her, but I don't think they know that 360 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:16.880 she's out there living briefing because the First Foundation does 361 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:19.440 not know of the Second Foundation, right and Gail wants 362 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:21.359 to keep it that way, and. 363 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:25.960 In her visions, the mule is asking her where is 364 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:30.519 the Second Foundation? So sorry that was love, Yeah, because 365 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:33.319 they're the threat to him. Yeah, So when is he 366 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.000 going to find out about the Second Foundation to look 367 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:38.319 for it and seek it out? Is the cool? Like? 368 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:41.359 That is a question that's I think a good one 369 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:44.839 to have at this point right now. But I'm confused 370 00:20:44.839 --> 00:20:48.039 about his allegiance because of his abilities. 371 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:52.519 Well, and I think I'll do more research. Well, then 372 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:54.359 I'll do like a book talk thing here at the 373 00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:57.400 end to go into some of these characters and with 374 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:00.920 how their roles are in the books. That'll be buttentially spoilery, 375 00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:02.680 So if anyone doesn't want to hear that, they don't 376 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:05.640 have to listen to that. But the party goes on 377 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:11.119 after Han Pritcher leaves as a beta and Torrin decide 378 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:15.480 to make themselves useful and investigate the Mule and his musician. 379 00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:19.720 Right the hobo mellow in them came out the descendants. 380 00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:22.119 They're like, oh, we need to figure out what Pritcher 381 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:25.079 couldn't and they split up and they steal his musician 382 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:26.640 and then he gets flayed. 383 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:29.519 H that was gross. 384 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:34.240 That was disgusting, and ah, oh oh it would it 385 00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:37.720 should have been more bloody. Honestly, your hand whenever you 386 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:40.279 get a little cut. I've cut myself with a potato 387 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:43.440 peeler before. That's why it felt so viscerle to be 388 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:47.599 way more blood would have come out, way more. It 389 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:49.799 should have been way bloodier. But I think this show 390 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:52.759 is trying to like not be that kind of show 391 00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:55.519 right where it's like body Horror. But I think it's 392 00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:58.319 like touching, like it's flirting with it. When it comes 393 00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:01.279 to the Mule. I think that's like a very interesting 394 00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:06.759 choice because I think it elicits terror and fear, and 395 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:11.000 like Body Horror kind of does that, like whenever you 396 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:15.240 see like somebody getting flayed, you're definitely going to have 397 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:18.920 like a gut reaction. But I thought he was very 398 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:22.119 clever when he's got his like little cameras and he's 399 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:26.119 like flash, so he was like surprised and couldn't concentrate 400 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:30.759 on making him one of his many victims. Yeah, that 401 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:35.279