Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It
Speaker 1: is episode one o eight. I'm Mike Mahardy, your host
Speaker 1: has always here with Dan Riker, who's currently sucking on
Speaker 1: a straw.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, cocktail, it made one. It's good that
Speaker 2: like Yoda. Yeah, I don't know what is it? Trade winds?
Speaker 1: Oh? I know, trade wins?
Speaker 2: How is it?
Speaker 1: It's good. It's good.
Speaker 2: You get supposed to an upside down umbrella in it
Speaker 2: like it got blown up from the trade winds.
Speaker 1: You see. Yeah? Yeah, what Uh that's rum based?
Speaker 2: Rum based introduced Mary.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll get to it. That's Mary.
Speaker 2: Well, I just got a bunch of more.
Speaker 4: Uh, Mary, what do you want with the intros? I
Speaker 4: never get the same enthusiasm.
Speaker 2: All right, let's start. You just blow past me. Hello, everybody,
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast.
Speaker 1: It's episode one hundred eight.
Speaker 2: I'm Mike Mahardy here as always.
Speaker 3: With that's Dan Riker.
Speaker 1: Ma kay, Finally, what the fuck is Dan drinking with
Speaker 1: his fucking stupid, little fucking umbrella? Oh my goodness, you'd
Speaker 1: be proud of me. My bar is more stock.
Speaker 2: Now I got tomorrow, Cosino, I got Appara Tief Liony
Speaker 2: or soda.
Speaker 1: You know, you know.
Speaker 2: I got some no Nino. I got some crim Day banana.
Speaker 2: I got all sorts of like good stuff I've had
Speaker 2: out Like with Amazon Prime, I could deliver from a
Speaker 2: local big liquor store and so I just clicked a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of different mixers and liqueurs and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: and it's delicious.
Speaker 3: What's your favorite thing you made?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: I always forget the names. Uh, But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's all good stuff.
Speaker 4: Okay, can we go back to crim Day banana da banana?
Speaker 1: Yes, it's good. I'm just saying it like the fucking
Speaker 1: Donkey Kong sixty.
Speaker 2: Four old bud. But that probably heard it more than
Speaker 2: that context. Yeah, Now I like I like nutty liqueurs.
Speaker 2: It turns out that's good stuff. Well, okay, let's see here.
Speaker 2: Let me let me tell you exactly what I got, Mike.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me what a lot of tiki drinks
Speaker 1: have that nutty like base before you get a fruity Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got amorro siok crro. I got some old
Speaker 2: forest or. I got some Lazaro. What's that I got that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good.
Speaker 2: I got some liny a quavit, got some Johnny Walker
Speaker 2: green some Avarna amorro.
Speaker 1: Fugit crim day banana. Time flies, that's what I said.
Speaker 1: And you've seen weltmore Oh yeah, yeah yah, he said.
Speaker 1: That's that's the school's motto. It's tempest fuge. It means
Speaker 1: time flies and Latin. You've got fucking Dan coming to
Speaker 1: here with this Latin.
Speaker 2: And you say velvit velvet falerum.
Speaker 3: I got that too, belfalerum is good.
Speaker 1: You can. I could send you a recipe to make
Speaker 1: your own. That's generally I'll just buy it.
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 3: No, the di why is better?
Speaker 1: Really? Yeah? Okay, because they like kind of do some
Speaker 1: clarification in the bottle that I don't love. I don't know.
Speaker 3: We don't need to get into this, Mary, what are
Speaker 3: you doing?
Speaker 4: I'm drinking too. I'm drinking a moscow mule.
Speaker 2: Oh alakai mule. I made that recently.
Speaker 1: That was very I don't know if I agree with
Speaker 1: the problem is drink right now. But that's fine. I've
Speaker 1: been on Ukraine side, but that's just me. I know
Speaker 1: you have different leanings these days.
Speaker 4: We do love these political podcasts.
Speaker 2: I'm from Margaritaville.
Speaker 4: Brother, Yeah, they're neutral like Sweden.
Speaker 2: What's the tariff Margaritaville.
Speaker 4: Right, everybody's a friend in Margaritaville.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Russia's welcome with open arms in Margaritaville. It's
Speaker 1: like everybody else, level playing field. It's all easie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, unless you don't like salt on the rim, then
Speaker 4: you can rotten hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, insault on the room. I like all sorts of
Speaker 2: dusty fun flavors on the rim. I think you can
Speaker 2: like lick the side of the glass like a weirdo,
Speaker 2: but I still like the taste.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You can also just like put that part in your
Speaker 2: mouth when you drink it.
Speaker 1: But sometimes it goes like real deep, Like I got
Speaker 1: something that I'm not a fan of that I had
Speaker 1: to show a tongue the whole deal. Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: like that. I don't care for that. I would appreciate
Speaker 1: if people stopped from Northern Rohn really.
Speaker 4: Think that the Army of Margaritaville would.
Speaker 2: Be like, I mean, the fatigues are definitely Hawaiian. The
Speaker 2: Hawaiian shirts, travel flip flops.
Speaker 4: It's all Hawaiian straw hats, crawling on the ground, led
Speaker 4: by four star Margeritaville General Mike Manatti.
Speaker 1: Yes, the patent speech in front of a big Jimmy
Speaker 1: Buffett flag. The most violent weapon they'd have is like
Speaker 1: umbrella spears.
Speaker 3: They could do harpoon guns, I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, brutal way to die is through the heart with.
Speaker 2: An umbrella.
Speaker 1: Open it. Yeah, yeah, smart, Yeah, that's more. That's more
Speaker 1: just to like ward off other people. They are coming
Speaker 1: at you. You get you see your friend taking umbrella
Speaker 1: through the heart. You're not going anywhere close to the
Speaker 1: guy who did it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like the men from Margueriteaville fight with the
Speaker 4: strength of ten regular men.
Speaker 2: Imagine drunk men.
Speaker 1: Imagine thirty years later, like in movies when they're showing
Speaker 1: the like translucent overlay of what happened over the guy
Speaker 1: who's clearly lost in PTSD thought. Imagine the guy just
Speaker 1: kind of having an episode and then you just see
Speaker 1: like men in Hawaiian shirts spearing people with umbrellas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, eating cheeseburgers in Paradise.
Speaker 1: Set to the song where William Dafoe is getting machine
Speaker 1: gun from the helicopter the horror. Yeah, no, were you
Speaker 1: a place far away in a time long ago.
Speaker 3: Hopefully you never have to see it.
Speaker 4: I said, no umbrellas to me, take it away.
Speaker 1: I said, no open toad shoes. Cassandra reminds me of
Speaker 1: when my friend took one to the foot. We should
Speaker 1: start an improv troop.
Speaker 2: It'd be great. That's what everybody wants.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been clamoring more improv troops is what the
Speaker 1: world needs.
Speaker 2: We'll do. We'll do a new tier. We're gonna do
Speaker 2: an improv troop, a new tier. I thought you said
Speaker 2: nude tears. Nude improv is the gimmick.
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, nude computer, load up, nude tear please.
Speaker 4: No, that's the computer refuses.
Speaker 2: Sparks, fly out and kills itself.
Speaker 1: We talk all the time about the Firehouse nude calendar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we never did it.
Speaker 4: Fires Cape nude calendar. I want to do that since
Speaker 4: I to have the the sexiest men of games journalism.
Speaker 4: And it's just like Minati with his like little little
Speaker 4: shorts looking behind him, surprised, you know, like one of
Speaker 4: those people just like nipping at the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a dog. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Would buy it.
Speaker 5: I probably wouldn't hang it, but I would buy it.
Speaker 5: I would support this the hottest men case.
Speaker 2: I mean many would buy that because we have heard
Speaker 2: from Mike MANAUGHTI that he gets some salacious emails from
Speaker 2: people looking for a certain type.
Speaker 4: There's a term for it, and he's that type of
Speaker 4: a certain type.
Speaker 2: He is that type.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's had to say on streams like please stop
Speaker 1: sending me emails about wanting things from me because I
Speaker 1: happened to fit a certain type. Interesting. Yeah, okay, the
Speaker 1: bear is what I hear. Oh I thought I thought
Speaker 1: you're talking more specific.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, just bear. He's just a hairy guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: One of the bowling teams that I bowl against are
Speaker 4: the spare are the spear Bear.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 2: That's good. Lohans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mary, do you like how anytime you post a
Speaker 1: bowling image or image story I respond full penetration because
Speaker 1: I think that name was better.
Speaker 4: Thank you. I'm glad somebody liked it because it wasn't
Speaker 4: very popular when I said it. But Amanda actually had
Speaker 4: the best response when we posted the picture, and she said,
Speaker 4: you can't split with us. Oh nice, she's smarter than
Speaker 4: all of us.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Because it's a reference to a Lindsay Lohan movie being gone.
Speaker 2: Oh, the bowling. I know the bowling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, some of the well you should see it's one
Speaker 4: of the greatest movie.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard it's good.
Speaker 4: It's very good, but it has the bowling. Names are
Speaker 4: very important.
Speaker 5: And one of the names on a that we were
Speaker 5: competing against, they were just Team four and we were like,
Speaker 5: that's weird.
Speaker 4: Why you guys come up with.
Speaker 5: A good name, And they were like we did and
Speaker 5: it got rejected, and so we in protest refuse to
Speaker 5: come up with another name and said what was.
Speaker 4: Your canceled name? And they said it was seven to ten.
Speaker 1: Split is a weed reference in Portly, they were they
Speaker 1: took on bridge with.
Speaker 4: That and legal here that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like raised before anybody else.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's no different than having a beer reference, which
Speaker 5: people do all the time.
Speaker 2: I think even with like weed being legalized, I think
Speaker 2: there are still like people that have not come around
Speaker 2: to it. It's like my dad still doesn't understand that,
Speaker 2: like if it's legal, you can just smoke in a park,
Speaker 2: you can smoke and wherever you can smoke a cigarette.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, this is no way that's true. And
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, you can, Like some people just cannot
Speaker 2: fathom the idea that it's legal now.
Speaker 1: But in Portland, Oregon, I think of all places they'd be.
Speaker 4: All drugs are legal here, Like, it's crazy, all drugs
Speaker 4: legal or decriminalized, criminalized.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well weed is legal, yes, heroines decriminalized.
Speaker 3: I'm saying this is a as if. I know.
Speaker 1: I read one Times article like six months ago, and
Speaker 1: it sounds like it was not going well.
Speaker 4: But yes, they still they're still they're still doing crime.
Speaker 2: Wait, so what's the what's not going well about it?
Speaker 2: Is like crime up.
Speaker 4: I think the idea behind it was stop putting them
Speaker 4: in jail and start putting them in rehab centers where
Speaker 4: people who are like addicts actually genuinely need it. I'm
Speaker 4: not really good at this stuff and do my best
Speaker 4: to describe it, which is just like essentially we decriminalized it,
Speaker 4: but there's just not enough centers open for people who
Speaker 4: like need them. And there's the other subset of people
Speaker 4: who are like I don't want to be rehabilitated. I
Speaker 4: want drugs, to have my drugs, and so it doesn't
Speaker 4: satisfy for that need either. So like some people just
Speaker 4: need to go to jail.
Speaker 5: You know what, I mean, like some people like they
Speaker 5: don't want they don't want to get better, they don't
Speaker 5: want housing, they would like to do crime and do drugs,
Speaker 5: and we can't help them.
Speaker 2: So all right, Mary, not to put you on spot,
Speaker 2: we will need you to propose a clear solution right now,
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 5: I think what other states did was they put them
Speaker 5: on a bus and shipped them to another state and
Speaker 5: made it someone else's fucking problem, which I think is
Speaker 5: evil as shit. And then I feel like some other
Speaker 5: states solution is just they're really cold and then all
Speaker 5: the people freeze off in the winter and then they
Speaker 5: start again each spring.
Speaker 1: So yes, there's like frost punk in New York City.
Speaker 5: Like I'm not a mayor, Like, I don't know what
Speaker 5: you're supposed to fucking do, but my thought is, genuinely,
Speaker 5: if you're refusing treatment.
Speaker 4: To jail, that's how I feel.
Speaker 5: Like, if you really genuinely don't want to get better
Speaker 5: and you're just sitting there shooting up to jail, that's
Speaker 5: how I feel.
Speaker 4: I think you should go to rehab.
Speaker 5: And if you don't want to, then you know, like
Speaker 5: sit in sit in this square.
Speaker 1: So first, all of a sudden, Trump accepts this flying
Speaker 1: fucking fortress. And then all of a sudden, Biden's back
Speaker 1: answer and then next thing, you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: to a flying fortress. He accepted a flying fortress, accepted it.
Speaker 1: He's doctor Robotnik.
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, wait, are is this news to you?
Speaker 1: He's becoming sorry, he has a flying fortress. Yes, this
Speaker 1: is news to me. All right, before we get off politics,
Speaker 1: because I think this threatens to go off the rails.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's wait to saving for the politics section here
Speaker 2: of the podcast.
Speaker 1: It's the biggest bribe in presidential history. He's accepting from Qatar, Kater,
Speaker 1: how do they want to pronounce a like their luxury
Speaker 1: flying fucking mansion, and he's making air Force one that
Speaker 1: I can't make way stuff up?
Speaker 2: Seriously, I guess you've been busy with giant bombs. I've
Speaker 2: been busy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Because he used to always read the New York Times
Speaker 4: every morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, so he is formally here's the New York
Speaker 2: Times to Robotnik by by the day. Yes, I mean,
Speaker 2: if we got to deal with him, I guess it
Speaker 2: would be funnier if he was doctor Robotnik, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because then it it makes the villainy like.
Speaker 1: Kind of like it smooths the edges.
Speaker 4: Or I really want to know how funny it is.
Speaker 5: I really want to know that the person that's gonna
Speaker 5: fucking kill me and take away my citizenship has some
Speaker 5: kind of comedic mustache.
Speaker 2: Anyway doing the start plane fucking rules.
Speaker 1: This is a big plane. Yeah no, yeah, he's yeah,
Speaker 1: you can just do that.
Speaker 4: No you're not.
Speaker 2: I guess so, well, no, not if they offered it
Speaker 2: to not Saudi Ara. What if it's like the plane
Speaker 2: company offered it to me as a internet beloved video gamesman,
Speaker 2: I take that. Yeah, I guess you could. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: not your It would be less of an issue if
Speaker 2: I took an air fortress, then the president, I think,
Speaker 2: so okay, yes, well it's an option airplane people, Yeah,
Speaker 2: hit up Saudi Arabia. No, just bowing. I'll just deal
Speaker 2: directly with whoever it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're close contact with Boeing.
Speaker 2: Sure people blood where we already did politics? What about health?
Speaker 2: Let's get people health advice. Oh I've been so, I've
Speaker 2: been a bunch of dark blood.
Speaker 1: Mucus has been coming out of my nose for a
Speaker 1: week and then it stopped, and now it's.
Speaker 2: Coming out of my throat.
Speaker 1: Today.
Speaker 2: I was in the shower and a bunch of like
Speaker 2: like just dark, gross, thick blood came out of my throat.
Speaker 4: Dare doctor when blood comes out of you?
Speaker 2: But it's like I had a cold. And so I
Speaker 2: did do like a video call and be like, hey,
Speaker 2: check out this gross picture. And she was like, look,
Speaker 2: it's probably just like irritated nasal passages.
Speaker 1: She was this doctor on the video call. A doctor said,
Speaker 1: it's fine that you're said, it's like it's like it's
Speaker 1: not actively like gushing. It's not like it just seems
Speaker 1: like it's old dried blood, but it's like very dark.
Speaker 2: It's like it's weird. I got a couple of things
Speaker 2: going on. Look you open this door. I got gross
Speaker 2: dark blood coming out of my nose and throat. And
Speaker 2: also my shits are looking like poppy seed muffins. There's
Speaker 2: like a million fucking little black seeds in my turn
Speaker 2: birds today, and my farts are real bad.
Speaker 1: Do you have any theories as to what the poppy seed?
Speaker 1: Ask the poppy seeds? I ate two bananas yesterday. I
Speaker 1: normally have a maximum of one banana banana, and.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's all your banana liquor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, y all that crumbed to banana.
Speaker 2: The banana runs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm hoping it is just banana seeds in
Speaker 1: my ship.
Speaker 2: And that's just been today. The fart's been bad for
Speaker 2: a couple of days.
Speaker 4: It's a banana seed.
Speaker 2: There's seeds. There's a little black seeds in there. And
Speaker 2: I had a bunch of quine wa yesterday. I had
Speaker 2: a bunch of kin one tonight. But normally I can
Speaker 2: digest it fine.
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping my bust and blood and have it
Speaker 1: in costello.
Speaker 2: I had a bunch of quine wa tonight. Yeah, banana.
Speaker 1: But I'm not like actively in a bunch of pain.
Speaker 2: I'm just my stomach's been weird and rumbly, and I'm
Speaker 2: just bleeding out of holes in my head.
Speaker 5: I just don't think that you're ever supposed to bleed
Speaker 5: out of any hole.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm feeling.
Speaker 2: I started running like I'm full on training now for
Speaker 2: the marathon. So it's like four miles a day, three yesterday,
Speaker 2: six on Sunday. Like I'm running. I'm good. I'm feeling.
Speaker 5: Doesn't mean that you are allowed to bleed.
Speaker 2: It gets the blood out just squeezing.
Speaker 1: The boy doesn't cancel anything else out of it's making
Speaker 1: me less fat, and so it's squeezing all the excess
Speaker 1: goop out of my body through my holes. You know that.
Speaker 4: Where they say that pain is just uh, the body,
Speaker 4: blood is just.
Speaker 2: Blood is fat leaving the body.
Speaker 4: It's your fucking blood leaving the body, and you need it.
Speaker 3: You don't die. They go to hell to regroup.
Speaker 2: No, I really think it's okay. I do think it's okay.
Speaker 2: It's gross. Look I got do you want to see pictures?
Speaker 1: No? Do?
Speaker 4: Your action looks like a muffin? Like is it muffin shaped?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just like if a muff if
Speaker 1: if a poppy seed muffin was turd shaped. Hey all,
Speaker 1: you hundreds of new patrons, get out on our video.
Speaker 1: That's oh, here's here's a wait wait wait, wait, wait
Speaker 1: prep me. Is this the blood stuff or is this
Speaker 1: the puppet? Oh my god, that's.
Speaker 4: I don't like it.
Speaker 1: It's your dog, doctor said, that's probably fine a video
Speaker 1: call doctor.
Speaker 2: Here's another one from yeah, like this is like it's thick.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, are you fine?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: That was from my nose. Now it's coming out of
Speaker 2: my throat, which I think is better because it's moving down. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's farther from my brain.
Speaker 4: Keep it away from your heart.
Speaker 2: If I keep it just out coming out of the
Speaker 2: mouth hole, then that's the middle point of the brain
Speaker 2: and the heart.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think you should get a second opinion.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm in between what situations right now.
Speaker 3: Serious enough to consider.
Speaker 2: Though I feel fine, well the outside I do have
Speaker 2: I have been having crippling etaches behind my eyes and stuff.
Speaker 1: But oh my god, dude, well look.
Speaker 2: I was descending into Montreal and then I had incredibly
Speaker 2: oh let me show you this fucking picture ended into montrealre.
Speaker 3: Like fucking fandom was holding you together, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, so you insurance. I love sending in Montreal,
Speaker 2: and like I had like a nose stuffy situation. So
Speaker 2: I started getting serious pain in my ears and then
Speaker 2: like the sharpest pain ever behind my right eyebrow. So
Speaker 2: for like three minutes, yeah, yeah, while it was all
Speaker 2: blocked up and everything. That's the north aerro sinusciitis or whatever.
Speaker 2: But then I land and it's the different countries. So
Speaker 2: they make you take a picture for your passport thing
Speaker 2: and all that. And I was not trying to make
Speaker 2: a face when they took my photo at the thing.
Speaker 2: But this is what they have on file for me
Speaker 2: landing in Montreal. Damn, you look like respute.
Speaker 1: And what is this? That's the worst photo of me
Speaker 1: that's ever You look like the NBA two K scan
Speaker 1: of you.
Speaker 5: That looks like an AI generated murderer who's going out
Speaker 5: of prison.
Speaker 2: I shape, I've never looked like that ever.
Speaker 1: That looks like a character from Watchdog's Legion who you
Speaker 1: scan and you're trying to possess, and it's like he's homeless.
Speaker 3: His only skill is blending in.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not trying to God's concerned. I actually feel
Speaker 2: fine again. I just ran four miles, like a couple
Speaker 2: of hours ago.
Speaker 5: That was like one of those NBA two K scanning features,
Speaker 5: but it fucked up the scan of your face and
Speaker 5: just gave you half eyes.
Speaker 1: I just said that, Mike, we've established we don't listen
Speaker 1: to you on this podcast. Let it be known.
Speaker 3: I just made that bit married.
Speaker 4: I made it better. I think mine was funnier.
Speaker 1: I said the same thing.
Speaker 2: It's even I who doesn't remember anything. He was like,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Mike just said this.
Speaker 3: No, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Wait, uh, Dan, do you do you remember when Mary
Speaker 1: mary her thoughts on twenty twenty as a whole? You know,
Speaker 1: we're all stuck at home. Oh god, damnit, I never
Speaker 1: mind it. We'll save it, We'll say. No, I don't my.
Speaker 2: The thing isn't working. So but yes, I do remember.
Speaker 1: No, like, hold on, like Mary, I think we were
Speaker 1: talking about twenty twenty and uh, you know you were
Speaker 1: just saying like you did. You're saying it wasn't great
Speaker 1: in general. But uh but what what else?
Speaker 3: Oh right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Did you hear that love that pandemic? Love that pandemic?
Speaker 5: What I I didn't say that, you did say that enthusiastics?
Speaker 3: No, but like what did you truly.
Speaker 4: Think sove that pandemic?
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's move on in this podcastics health. I
Speaker 1: don't ever want to talk about health or politics again.
Speaker 2: I'm fine, although we're recording this one super early, so
Speaker 2: I mean, if I do die in the next week
Speaker 2: and a half, it'll be pretty funny. I don't mean
Speaker 2: that I'm fine.
Speaker 1: Mary.
Speaker 3: How are you feeling these days?
Speaker 4: I feel fine, genuinely, like relatively, yeah, like I'm genuinely
Speaker 4: physically fine.
Speaker 5: I will say, like, I also got a little sick
Speaker 5: because I just got back from packs and usually when
Speaker 5: you do a PAX, you're just probably gonna get the
Speaker 5: pax pos. That is like a natural thing that happens.
Speaker 4: So my uh as it as it happens.
Speaker 5: I just recognized, maybe like three or five days ago
Speaker 5: that I wasn't feeling super hot. But I beat it
Speaker 5: by sheer willpower this time, which is how I usually
Speaker 5: beat all sicknesses. I very rarely have to go to
Speaker 5: the doctor, and I always feel like if I.
Speaker 4: Just rest and have soup, I can figure it out.
Speaker 5: And the last time I got sick, I needed antibiotics
Speaker 5: and everything I was fucked up.
Speaker 4: I was like a total mess bag.
Speaker 5: This time, I'm back to my usual, Like I just
Speaker 5: beat it with willpower and like time, you know, like
Speaker 5: regular people.
Speaker 1: You're like a Dennis in the Gang gets quarantined where
Speaker 1: he's like, if I was sick, I would simply say,
Speaker 1: sees break. God, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Usually fight it. I mean, I'm telling you I'm kind
Speaker 4: of notorious for it. And like some people call me
Speaker 4: patient zero because like I'm the kind of person will
Speaker 4: be like my throat's a little scratchy on the way
Speaker 4: to like twitch con anyway, everybody have a good con.
Speaker 5: And I'll just sit on the fucking plane and be like,
Speaker 5: I'm not sick, and I will I will will it
Speaker 5: down into my body and I will I will work
Speaker 5: and I will do my job, and I will do
Speaker 5: I will work like everybody else, you know, all the hours,
Speaker 5: all the late nights, all the early mornings, and then
Speaker 5: when I get home, my body will implode because I
Speaker 5: have allowed it to.
Speaker 4: I have been like, now, you can be sick, but
Speaker 4: I won't allow them.
Speaker 1: Now. I think that's a fairly common thing, Like, uh,
Speaker 1: your body recognizes you just genuinely you're not in like
Speaker 1: a safe place to be sick, So it waits until then.
Speaker 4: You body like you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't be sick right now as soon as you
Speaker 3: walk in the door.
Speaker 4: E three was no different. You just can't fucking be
Speaker 4: sick during E three.
Speaker 5: Like, get your shit together, get it together, figure it out,
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter. Like yeah, like I'll like take cough
Speaker 5: drops or something like that or some kind of like
Speaker 5: minor medicine for headaches.
Speaker 4: But like my ass is getting out there and I'm
Speaker 4: doing the thing.
Speaker 5: I know it's not right, especially by today's standards, where
Speaker 5: you're really not supposed to like even come out of
Speaker 5: the house if you're sick. But like there's just like
Speaker 5: work stuff where I'm essentially like you're fine, just get
Speaker 5: over it, and my body actually does react to that,
Speaker 5: and it's just like Okay, no fever, like figure it out,
Speaker 5: like go do your job.
Speaker 4: And then and then when I come home, I like
Speaker 4: actually melt.
Speaker 2: Especially like when we all work from home, where it's
Speaker 2: like I never really took sick days anyway, like when
Speaker 2: I worked at an office, but like I cannot remember.
Speaker 2: I cannot remember the last time I took a certainly
Speaker 2: not in the last five years. And that's why I remember.
Speaker 2: Like when I was a game informer, there's someone who
Speaker 2: like literally would take like two days off because like
Speaker 2: I got a flu shot yesterday and my arm's kind
Speaker 2: of sore, and it's like that was an actual excuse,
Speaker 2: and I was like I want to kill you. Like
Speaker 2: that is like I don't know if it's just like
Speaker 2: Midwest like work ethic stuff where it's just like I
Speaker 2: just we're toxic, you know, I think we'd yeah.
Speaker 4: Bad and it is very normal.
Speaker 5: To be able to be like I am sick, but
Speaker 5: I just I don't have that ability. My mind is like, no,
Speaker 5: you get your ass up if I'm genuinely, like feverishly
Speaker 5: fucking ill. And that happened a couple months ago. I
Speaker 5: really was down for the count. I had to go
Speaker 5: to a doctor and everything, and it was a mess.
Speaker 5: I took a I took an afternoon off.
Speaker 4: I took one afternoon off to go. I went to
Speaker 4: an emergency room and got and got medicine, and then
Speaker 4: I sat in a hotel room and like stewed about it.
Speaker 4: And the next day I was like, I'm fine.
Speaker 2: I don't like getting medicine.
Speaker 3: Don't you in the mirror you're weak?
Speaker 4: Yeah I was. I was like slapping myself in front
Speaker 4: of the mirror, like you get better.
Speaker 5: I don't like it, and I want to be a
Speaker 5: part of the experience and be better.
Speaker 4: But I have to. I have to give myself the
Speaker 4: ability and the flexibility to be sick, and we definitely
Speaker 4: have to give the flexibility to other people.
Speaker 2: To be oh yeah, yeah, you can't expect everyone to
Speaker 2: be like weird about this, like we are, like I
Speaker 2: guess with like I had COVID once and I took
Speaker 2: time off for that, and I, uh, I have a pandemic.
Speaker 4: God damn it.
Speaker 2: I had a couple of the surgeries, like post surgery.
Speaker 2: Like if you count of those of sick days and
Speaker 2: I've taken them for sure, but like for like a
Speaker 2: cold or something like that, like no way, you know, it's.
Speaker 4: Very very rare. Like I have been at twitch for
Speaker 4: eight years. I don't think I could count on one
Speaker 4: hand the amount of sick days I've taken. It never
Speaker 4: fucking happens, and I definitely have been sick. When you
Speaker 4: work from home, though, like you just pull up a
Speaker 4: laptop next to the bed.
Speaker 1: And you just yeah, I might be like if my
Speaker 1: notice it is totally stepped up, maybe I'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: are you good for this podcast or whatever?
Speaker 2: And I'll sit that one out. But like sure, email
Speaker 2: people and do that shit and play games.
Speaker 5: You know, you can email, you can think about a
Speaker 5: problem that you're solving.
Speaker 2: But I think we're just tougher and better than everyone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think jobs are easier than a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Also that that's probably a big part of it.
Speaker 1: If I'm but like, yeah, if I was driving the
Speaker 1: park left to the ups Factory, I would probably uh
Speaker 1: not feel the pilots don't really have this same I'm
Speaker 1: going to sit out my session of Doom the Dark
Speaker 1: Ages today.
Speaker 2: I got some sniffles.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many demons I can quench if
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I love quenching demons. I love punching demons.
Speaker 1: Calls. I got it.
Speaker 2: Ever, that is something we should always keep in mind
Speaker 2: is that we have very different jobs than most people.
Speaker 2: And it's maybe easy for us to say, but I
Speaker 2: don't know. Like Mike, you're always doing stuff. Mary, you're
Speaker 2: always like I'm always doing stuff. Most of my stuff
Speaker 2: involves just like talking to my friends on podcasts, whut
Speaker 2: video games? So like, I don't think I have the
Speaker 2: hardest job of us three.
Speaker 4: No, I know you're the biggest joke of them all.
Speaker 1: I think there he's a CEO.
Speaker 2: There's CEO.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a CEO.
Speaker 4: College. Like, you can be a CEO of a bunch
Speaker 4: of joke ship. You're still a CEO CCO giant.
Speaker 3: We're talking to you like that.
Speaker 4: Make a company that's just one?
Speaker 2: We have five worthless.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't all be CEO.
Speaker 1: No, I'm don't have a CEO. I'm c CEO and
Speaker 1: co owners watching someone play Rascal right now. You be
Speaker 1: careful who you're talking to CCO stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm very aware of who I'm talking.
Speaker 1: I got this sniffles.
Speaker 3: I can't watch you play wescal that.
Speaker 2: No, I say I do because I'm a tough, hard worker.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not right. Be impressed everyone. Hey dad, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna muscle through watching my friend play Wescal for the day.
Speaker 2: I'm going to be a big man about it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a good impression.
Speaker 1: I've told you this. There's a there's a real estate company.
Speaker 1: Like in my neck of the woods. It's spelled w
Speaker 1: E I c h e r T. Yeah. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure how it's supposed to be pronounced, but I always
Speaker 1: see it whitecout.
Speaker 2: That's like that was my last night when I was
Speaker 2: a baby.
Speaker 6: Ye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you changed it when you came of age. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's uncomfortable to see around town. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I don't like. I think it depends on your occupation.
Speaker 1: I'd definitely say there are certain people who have to
Speaker 1: call in sick medical workers. Yes, of course, clearly not politicians.
Speaker 1: They're definitely not saying it's the right way to be.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying like in are like Mary and I specifically, like,
Speaker 2: you know, we can do our jobs sick from home.
Speaker 1: You know, my job mostly remote as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some time.
Speaker 4: I think that, uh, we do have a lot of leniencies.
Speaker 4: But I also think that because maybe we have those leniencies,
Speaker 4: it makes it more important for me to always be available.
Speaker 4: And that's sure good or bad, But I do feel
Speaker 4: the urge.
Speaker 5: And I've always felt the urge in every job that
Speaker 5: I've ever had, even if it was like you know,
Speaker 5: being a hostess or a sandwich artist a subway. I
Speaker 5: was always like, I'm here, I'm going to do my best.
Speaker 5: I don't care how sick I am. I'm gonna make
Speaker 5: these sandwich.
Speaker 1: I'm going to come in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was me.
Speaker 2: You know what, You're a hero, Mary, let's hear it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right here.
Speaker 5: I've always said that I'm a hero, and I'm really
Speaker 5: glad that this podcast at least has one hero.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We need one collective us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one villain, one hero.
Speaker 1: We did politics, health, yeah, whatever the opposite of health is.
Speaker 4: Let's do finances.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, religion after that. Oh yeah, let's do religion first.
Speaker 2: I hate god, no finance. Invest in a little a
Speaker 2: little stock, invested.
Speaker 1: A little stock I like to call giant bomb because
Speaker 1: I think the stocks going up, we shot back and
Speaker 1: we should go public.
Speaker 2: That's a good idea, do you have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be sick. I could be part owner and
Speaker 1: then I could own Dan if I buy enough stocks.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't go public. Oh, I would love to call
Speaker 1: board meetings. And it's just me at the end of
Speaker 1: a long table. I don't agree with this video. You
Speaker 1: did got a nice odd number right now. You Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't know that's going to go yet.
Speaker 2: It's just there's still so much stuff to do, which
Speaker 2: again thank god for Jeff back Larry. He's been doing
Speaker 2: all the big kids stuff. So uh yeah, it should
Speaker 2: be all set up here a little after SGF maybe
Speaker 2: maybe like in the next month after that. But it's
Speaker 2: been fun.
Speaker 1: Shay Gilgers, Alexander, that's a very esoteric joke. So Jeff's
Speaker 1: so Jeff, Jeff and Jeff and Mike and you and
Speaker 1: Jan Spirits seem high.
Speaker 3: Things are going well.
Speaker 1: I know you talk about this on every show you've
Speaker 1: gone on, so you don't have to go into detail.
Speaker 1: But short version is it's just been tremendous. The amount
Speaker 1: of support that's come in from folks.
Speaker 2: Giant bomb dot com, slash Join support, independent games media
Speaker 2: has been amazing. It's been very very also Patreon dot com.
Speaker 1: Slash Firescape, Pussy dot com, dish pussy dot com.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's great, it's just really great. It's just worrying
Speaker 2: about the stuff that matters and you know, putting together
Speaker 2: sgfuh hopefully you know, there's still a lot of things
Speaker 2: up in the air, but we're working very hard on that.
Speaker 2: The content stuff has been incredible, The audience has been
Speaker 2: and we're seeing so many people come back that I
Speaker 2: haven't watched for years and everything. It's just it's been
Speaker 2: feeling tremendous. So yeah, that's the short version is big,
Speaker 2: big thumbs up so far. Happy to hear Mary. How's
Speaker 2: bowling going.
Speaker 4: It's amazing. It's like cathartic and uh oh, so the
Speaker 4: season I was in ended, So we've we finished, we
Speaker 4: were we finished in second place?
Speaker 2: How many nice it? Yeah, it was like two.
Speaker 4: And a half months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you signed up two and a half months ago? Gotcha?
Speaker 5: Because I thought maybe I qud or I didn't know
Speaker 5: if I was actually like into it. But I've signed
Speaker 5: up for a second season. Now I'm actually like I've decided.
Speaker 4: I like it. It's I bought a ball, I have
Speaker 4: a ball.
Speaker 1: Get eight or ten? What do you say? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Boys.
Speaker 5: I was told from Larry's ball shop that you want
Speaker 5: to go heavy because it knocks the pins over. It's like,
Speaker 5: Larry's this crazy guy who has been I think he
Speaker 5: must be coveted.
Speaker 4: There are bowler shops.
Speaker 5: There's not a lot of bowler like places to get
Speaker 5: your ball drilled in Portland, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But there's a couple and most of them have like
Speaker 5: five to ten reviews, and Larry's has like hundreds and
Speaker 5: hundreds of reviews. This dude has been doing this for
Speaker 5: forty years. He is tried and tested. He's a bit
Speaker 5: of a firecracker when I can't yes testing. And he
Speaker 5: he's a strange man. His his desk was filled to
Speaker 5: the brim with papers. And the first thing he did
Speaker 5: when I came in was he was like, have you
Speaker 5: filled out a paper? And I was like no, And
Speaker 5: he's like, well you got a thille out And I
Speaker 5: was like, where are you going to put it?
Speaker 4: And he was like, with all the other papers, how
Speaker 4: dare you? And I was like okay, and I filled.
Speaker 5: It out and he put it on his giant desk
Speaker 5: of papers and he said what do you want and
Speaker 5: I said, well, I already someone gave me a ball
Speaker 5: and I'd like to fill the holes and I'd like
Speaker 5: to redraw them.
Speaker 4: With my fingers. And he was like, I bet you'd
Speaker 4: like that, and I was like I would genuinely. And
Speaker 4: he was like, where's this guy?
Speaker 5: He was giving me all this shit and I was like,
Speaker 5: that is what I would like and he was like
Speaker 5: he was like, well, I can do it by next Tuesday.
Speaker 4: And I was like that's a great deal.
Speaker 5: And he was like, well then great, I'll see you
Speaker 5: next Tuesday. And then the next tuesday I came in
Speaker 5: and I said it's me. I'm here for my appointment
Speaker 5: and he said, are you Marty?
Speaker 4: I said no, I'm married. I have Marty down for
Speaker 4: your for disappointment.
Speaker 5: I said, I'm Mary and I wrote it down on
Speaker 5: this piece of paper and he was like, I have
Speaker 5: Marty and I said, well, then I am Marty for
Speaker 5: the entire one hour appointment. When he measured my fingers,
Speaker 5: I was Marty awesome.
Speaker 2: Nice, that's good, Yeah, Marty Kisch.
Speaker 1: That works.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the people with those jobs, you need them to
Speaker 1: be eccentric or else I don't trust them.
Speaker 3: There's someone here in Jersey.
Speaker 1: Back when I was in the dart league and people
Speaker 1: were really into their personal set of darts, there's a
Speaker 1: woman near here Dan like maybe Bonk has heard of
Speaker 1: her at some point, I don't know, or you know
Speaker 1: Bank's family.
Speaker 2: She's called the dart Whisperer. And you basically go and she's.
Speaker 1: Got a dart board and you like you throw a dart,
Speaker 1: and in that one throw, she could tell like what
Speaker 1: kind of stroke you have? Like what she she?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people expect her to coach you,
Speaker 1: but she's like, I don't coach. I just observe and
Speaker 1: I react or something thing like that. And then she'll
Speaker 1: measure your arm. She'll look your hands eye like the
Speaker 1: thumb to finger, the thumb to middle finger, and then
Speaker 1: she'll design a set of darts that would work best
Speaker 1: with your throat.
Speaker 2: That's cool, Yeah, Like I.
Speaker 3: Want to be a specialty artisan for.
Speaker 4: A person too.
Speaker 5: There's something very interesting about that, isn't like that's all
Speaker 5: they do.
Speaker 4: Larry balls for forty years.
Speaker 1: What's the most specific sports paraphernalia you'd like to design?
Speaker 2: I was thinking like bowling, because I do like bowling,
Speaker 2: and Mary, you've like activated me just talking about bowling again.
Speaker 2: I want to get like, you know, like King panhil
Speaker 2: Bill Murray has like his hand inside the ball, and
Speaker 2: it's clear, could your Marty, could your guy do the
Speaker 2: thing where like you could give him an object and
Speaker 2: he would put it inside the ball.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I've never asked him. He's so weird.
Speaker 5: I'm like a little afraid to ask him stuff because
Speaker 5: it usually like it just turns into these crazy tangents
Speaker 5: for like hours.
Speaker 4: Sounds like you want like a custom resin ball where
Speaker 4: you're like putting weird objects into resin. He will drill
Speaker 4: any ball.
Speaker 1: That's why I shop found it Larry's Pro Shop Bowling
Speaker 1: store in Portland, Oregon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bowling equipment. Up your game. Let me see.
Speaker 4: He was incredible.
Speaker 1: The dropdown for the contact contact us box just says feedback,
Speaker 1: that's not contact.
Speaker 4: He lessons he does.
Speaker 5: And when I was done, so he gave me my
Speaker 5: drilled Oh this was interesting. So uh my appointment was
Speaker 5: at five thirty, my first round of official bowling, and
Speaker 5: they are serious about the rules. You have to show
Speaker 5: up on time was six fifteen and I said do
Speaker 5: I have enough time?
Speaker 4: And he said it's no problem.
Speaker 5: He measured my hand for like thirty minutes and it's
Speaker 5: six and I was like, cool, so you're going to
Speaker 5: drill this ball and give it to me in the
Speaker 5: next fifteen minutes and he was like, no problem.
Speaker 4: And so I sit down.
Speaker 5: We're waiting for six fifteen, and at six fourteen he
Speaker 5: comes over to me and he gives me my ball
Speaker 5: and he goes it was actually done by six o eight.
Speaker 4: I just sat there for five minutes.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know we're here and doing some quick searching.
Speaker 2: This is Larry Schwab from Larry's Pro Shop in Portland.
Speaker 2: I thought there was a video down there where it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: check out what we're about. I am now on Larry
Speaker 2: Schwab's YouTube page. He has one video and one subscriber.
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's subscribe Larry. Everyone go to at Larry
Speaker 2: L A. R. R. Y Schwab sc ch Wab nine
Speaker 2: two four five on YouTube. That's Larry Schwab nine two
Speaker 2: four five. Let's just suddenly make him go from one
Speaker 2: subscriber to like hundreds of not thousands.
Speaker 1: Listen, please subscribe. It's doing in my back.
Speaker 4: This guy obviously, like really gives a shit. I he
Speaker 4: is a he is a still, but I really do
Speaker 4: think that he is good at what he does. And
Speaker 4: towards the end of my bowling, and this is a
Speaker 4: three games so it took about two and a half hours.
Speaker 4: I turned around and he was just sitting and watching
Speaker 4: me bowl, and I was like, Hey, how's it going, Larry?
Speaker 4: And he was like good. How do the holes feel?
Speaker 4: And I was like they feel great?
Speaker 5: And he was like good, just making sure, just making
Speaker 5: sure that the ball meets your needs.
Speaker 4: And then he walked away. He watched me for like
Speaker 4: probably thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, is it a comfortable ball?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very comfortable. I don't know a lot about
Speaker 4: balls and holes.
Speaker 1: You don't know if it was uncomfortable, like an uncomfortable
Speaker 1: bowling ball does not feel right coming off those tips.
Speaker 4: It feels good in the hand. I feel like it
Speaker 4: has a good swing to it. And I got a
Speaker 4: good I got a good total that night, even though
Speaker 4: it was a new ball, so I had to get
Speaker 4: adjusted to it. But I'm still learning, you guys.
Speaker 5: So like my max is like lower than probably other
Speaker 5: Bowler League people's maxes. Like if I get one hundred
Speaker 5: and twenty score at the end, I'm like not too shabby.
Speaker 4: Like I just I have low expectations for myself. So
Speaker 4: just so everybody's aware.
Speaker 2: Can we next time we're doing Game of the Year,
Speaker 2: whether it's here or elsewhere, can we all go bowling together?
Speaker 1: Can that be part of my love?
Speaker 4: That that would be so cool?
Speaker 2: Love bowling.
Speaker 1: Bowling's out there with like roller blading of things I
Speaker 1: did when I was young that I want to do
Speaker 1: more now than I'm an adult.
Speaker 2: If I rollerblade, that would immediately break so many bones.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I couldn't do it as a kid, not
Speaker 2: that way. I just don't have any balance at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's a tough gig.
Speaker 2: Biking, Yeah, I'm great of bikes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've created bikes. Biking good, Bowling tough.
Speaker 5: The thing that I like about bowling, and the reason
Speaker 5: I've like decided that this is the sport for me
Speaker 5: is that like it for now is that it doesn't
Speaker 5: matter if I have a bad day.
Speaker 4: I couldn't give a shit if I have a bad
Speaker 4: like round of bowling. It's just something to do. I'm
Speaker 4: drinking like a picture of beer while I do it.
Speaker 4: But it gets me off my buck. But I'm not
Speaker 4: watching TV all night like I'm enjoying it. So it's silly,
Speaker 4: but it's it is meaningful now.
Speaker 1: Actually because it makes me want to do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's bold, let's bolt again.
Speaker 2: It makes me want to do like a league like
Speaker 2: and then bowl together like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could commit.
Speaker 3: You did a dart league, Mike, Yeah, and Hoboken people.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people.
Speaker 1: So I was in the B League. Thankfully, I consider
Speaker 1: myself pretty decent at darts. But I was in the
Speaker 1: B League, and uh, there were people there. And it's
Speaker 1: kind of cool because you represent a specific bar, so
Speaker 1: you're away games or another bar just down the street.
Speaker 1: I represented the bar you both have been to, Dan
Speaker 1: you especially a eighth Street tavern at the time, not anymore,
Speaker 1: I don't, I haven't been there in years. But you'd
Speaker 1: go to away games and other bars and certain bars
Speaker 1: took it very seriously. And we were the B League,
Speaker 1: a league I found out later does not touch a
Speaker 1: drop of alcohol when they're doing it.
Speaker 4: They're they're in the zone.
Speaker 5: We have bowlers that are like that too, and they
Speaker 5: they bowl and when they get a strike, I go,
Speaker 5: great job, and they don't look at me.
Speaker 4: Not having it at all.
Speaker 1: It should be fun.
Speaker 2: It should be drinky, like if you're going if yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that.
Speaker 5: I mean there's just there's people like that and every
Speaker 5: everything that take it a little too seriously.
Speaker 4: I think that is par for the course.
Speaker 5: But I find it funny because I mean it's just
Speaker 5: a hobby, you know, It's just something you're enjoying.
Speaker 4: It shouldn't It should not be that serious.
Speaker 1: John Goodman from Bicklebowski just like, okay, settle down, dude,
Speaker 1: like all line.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've had experiences like that a little bit where
Speaker 5: people have just like taken it really seriously. But I
Speaker 5: think it's funny when they get really upset because it's
Speaker 5: not that serious.
Speaker 1: I've said, people over things that don't warrant it, or
Speaker 1: it's pretty funny.
Speaker 4: That's the right reaction, like yeah, oh you're mad, Like
Speaker 4: bowling isn't good tonight, Like who cares?
Speaker 1: Like it's it's a feeling I get when and it's
Speaker 1: like people are getting furious about something and like whatever
Speaker 1: the non controversy of the week is in video games
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's like people getting like it's ruining their
Speaker 1: lives and they're making angry YouTube videos about it. It's
Speaker 1: like that's this is not a real problem.
Speaker 5: We've lost the plot when the thing that you are
Speaker 5: supposed to enjoy brings you like an immense amount of pain,
Speaker 5: And like I'm talking to you Star Wars fans that
Speaker 5: are just like unable to enjoy something anymore.
Speaker 2: And it's like Star Wars fans, wrestling fans, video game fans,
Speaker 2: fans of certain consoles and brands and developers, sports fans,
Speaker 2: sports fans, just fandom.
Speaker 1: Itself, like the no no, no, no no no. I
Speaker 1: literally mean this as a concept. It's like being a
Speaker 1: fan of something can go very awry.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean that's kind of always been
Speaker 2: the case. And I was thinking back to like Recess
Speaker 2: in the early nineties, and it's like, yeah, people were
Speaker 2: heads about Superintendent per Second Genesis back then, our Sonic Verse, Mario,
Speaker 2: Mortal Kombat Verse, Street Fighter, but then the Internet happened,
Speaker 2: and it's like everyone's just louder and stupider about it.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 5: I mean again, I think the right reaction, though, is
Speaker 5: to laugh about it. I mean, none of these things
Speaker 5: are meant to be that serious, and life is too short,
Speaker 5: I think to be really upset all the time. Like, Yes,
Speaker 5: I could take bowling really seriously, and I could get
Speaker 5: mad at everybody who's a better bowler than me, and
Speaker 5: get mad at myself when I don't bowl as good
Speaker 5: as I want to. But I just think that life
Speaker 5: is better if I drink two pictures of beer and
Speaker 5: kind of bowl.
Speaker 1: Okay, you were on the right side of history, Mary,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 3: Minus the Nixon stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and the and the airplane and the pandemic
Speaker 1: thing and the pandemic thing.
Speaker 4: I regret nothing. Everything I've done is right.
Speaker 2: Do you guys want to talk about video games?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think we talked about Doom. We definitely talked
Speaker 1: about doing The Dark Ages last episode. I have since
Speaker 1: played it quite a bit. I'm fourteen missions in. Do
Speaker 1: you like it?
Speaker 3: Out of twenty two?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You like it?
Speaker 2: Rightm dooms Mandy.
Speaker 3: Afew say, Okay, I like that game a lot.
Speaker 1: Mary.
Speaker 2: Oh, Mary, this is a this is a family broadcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mary, come on, oh, come on.
Speaker 3: Come on, oh, come on, you're fluffing me.
Speaker 2: That's for the video podcast, folks.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like dark ages a lot. It's good parry
Speaker 1: and that green stuff is good. That's good. The shield bash,
Speaker 1: the shield.
Speaker 4: Throw love so enjoyable.
Speaker 1: I love every time you think you have a grasp
Speaker 1: on what's going to be in the next weapons drop,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's a fucking flail and then
Speaker 1: you're just smoking people with that.
Speaker 2: For that grenade launcher, it's just like a heavy ass
Speaker 2: spiked grenade balls.
Speaker 4: Like, the grenade is fun. The grenade is fun. You
Speaker 4: might think to yourself, well, of course the grenade is fun,
Speaker 4: and good news. You're right. The grenade is super fun.
Speaker 1: Better than you would expect a grenade launcher to be.
Speaker 1: The fucking the The skull crusher shoots the spread ye is.
Speaker 1: I I'm hard pressed to think of a better It's
Speaker 1: not even a reload. It's just the animation it makes
Speaker 1: while you're shooting it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, crunching, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: For those who haven't play, it's just the skulls sitting
Speaker 1: like right in between this press like vice in the
Speaker 1: pushes it through these like four blades that then crunch
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 3: And shoot pieces of skull it's awesome, and.
Speaker 1: The skull of your dead enemies that technically could work
Speaker 1: with like a tibia, but no, it has to be
Speaker 1: skulls in the lore here.
Speaker 4: The animators clearly had a feeld day with this, And
Speaker 4: I think something that we probably I don't think we
Speaker 4: talk about enough though, is like, did they obviously have
Speaker 4: so much fun making this and you know it?
Speaker 5: You know, the dude who animated this was just like
Speaker 5: so stoked to be like, look at how fucking sick
Speaker 5: this looks the next.
Speaker 4: Day, and they did that with me.
Speaker 2: It was a woman.
Speaker 4: Dude is gender neutral?
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, there's a lot of feminine energy to Doom that.
Speaker 3: I want it, gotcha, it's not doom.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Doom is also gender neutral.
Speaker 1: I think dooms never mind, anyone is a dude.
Speaker 5: But what I'm just saying is is like, whoever like
Speaker 5: animated this had a field day and they knew it.
Speaker 5: And I think you can you can see the joy
Speaker 5: in the people who worked on this game. I feel
Speaker 5: like the people who made this game this was a
Speaker 5: labor of love and you can feel it. You can
Speaker 5: feel the joy in their experiences and how excited they
Speaker 5: were to have these like giant monsters in the background.
Speaker 4: Duking it out and like the uh, I don't know.
Speaker 5: All all of the constructions and the animations are are
Speaker 5: really fun and whimsical, like they're.
Speaker 4: Wild and very doom.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: Everything's just like a big explosion.
Speaker 2: At the levels where it's just you're just stomping on
Speaker 2: bridges full of enemies and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's so fucking cool they give you. They give you
Speaker 1: so many different ways to explode hordes of enemies at once. Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: whether it be throwing the shield at the overheated metal
Speaker 1: which comes into play in boss fights where the armor
Speaker 1: itself is overheated, or you're trying to overheat it yourself
Speaker 1: then using the energy weapons. Yeah, we talked about this
Speaker 1: last episode.
Speaker 2: Even the shield charge like takes out like five guys
Speaker 2: in here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I will say, like, I think I agree
Speaker 1: with what you guys are saying last time, not the
Speaker 1: but words in your mouth, Marry, I think it was
Speaker 1: you more than Dan.
Speaker 3: The Dragon stuff are super cool.
Speaker 1: It's like, I like the structure of the first Dragon
Speaker 1: mission where it reminds me of the Halo mission in
Speaker 1: Halo two and three where you're going between points in
Speaker 1: like either the Hornet or a Pelican and you're disembarking
Speaker 1: and going into these ships. It's a really cool mission structure. Overall,
Speaker 1: the Dragon stuff just feels more like a one off
Speaker 1: set piece.
Speaker 2: Not one off literally, but like fourteen missions in have
Speaker 2: you done the Dragon more than once? Twice?
Speaker 1: Now? Okay, so it might not be fourteen, but for
Speaker 1: reference sake, I've done the Dragon twice. It does feel
Speaker 1: more like a tact on thing, not tact on, Like
Speaker 1: they clearly put a lot of thought and time into it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think the coolest kill animation in the
Speaker 1: game is when you open up the Titan's mouth and
Speaker 1: breathe fire into his bargains. Yeah, and then he's like
Speaker 1: ah and that he explodes. It's the coolest thing I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life.
Speaker 5: They love shoving things in people's throats too, Like, there's
Speaker 5: multiple ones of that that's There's not just the fire one.
Speaker 5: There's also one where I think you like have a
Speaker 5: grid eight or something and you shove that in their
Speaker 5: throats to kill a thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, kill.
Speaker 4: Me you're fucked, Yeah you can, you can undo.
Speaker 1: I do think.
Speaker 3: It's funny. I haven't played Eternal in a while.
Speaker 1: I played it I think twice, and I came around
Speaker 1: on it a lot more of the second time I
Speaker 1: played it, enjoyed it quite a bit, and especially after
Speaker 1: going back to twenty sixteen, which twenty sixteen was so
Speaker 1: clean in the loop of all right, you chang saw guys.
Speaker 1: I might be fucking this up, but generally speaking, you
Speaker 1: chain saw guys to get AMMO, you do melee kills
Speaker 1: to get more.
Speaker 2: Health chan.
Speaker 3: And then there's one more to give you chains off fields.
Speaker 1: So is this really tight, like infinity loop whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call it, do Eternal start blowing that up
Speaker 1: in several ways where you got so many options that
Speaker 1: it got a bit overwhelming. Yes, I would actually say
Speaker 1: Dark Ages kind of corrects that a bit. I stepped
Speaker 1: away from it for a few days to go to Montreal.
Speaker 1: I started it and did a few missions. I will
Speaker 1: say this is not the easiest shooter to go back
Speaker 1: to because of how many options you have. It's not
Speaker 1: a knock on the game. It's not like it didn't
Speaker 1: make me take a five day break, but it is
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, right, Oka, I'm gonna throw my shield
Speaker 1: at them because they're superheated. And that's the thing I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, the enemy hordes I don't love in
Speaker 1: the composition, and like now I'm thinking like dark souls.
Speaker 3: Wise, it too often feels.
Speaker 2: So clean in that. So here's the line five energy.
Speaker 1: Shields here, all right, I'm gonna throw that. It's gonna
Speaker 1: kill the other energy shield guys. I think Eternal especially
Speaker 1: felt really organic, where there's several different kinds of demons
Speaker 1: rushing me from different angles. Now it's like overheated shields,
Speaker 1: energy shields. Oh this guy that are going to do
Speaker 1: the green attacks, I gotta get ready to parry that.
Speaker 1: It feels a bit to Arcadie, and I feel I
Speaker 1: realize I just said that a doom game feels to Arcadie.
Speaker 3: That's a dumb.
Speaker 1: Criticism they're supposed to I never really considered it, Arcadie.
Speaker 1: You know, it feels a bit too artificial.
Speaker 3: And the end, like the the s, it just.
Speaker 2: Seems kind of like by the numbers and that like, Okay,
Speaker 2: there's that shield line. Now I do this, and now
Speaker 2: here's this thing.
Speaker 4: I do this.
Speaker 2: That's a better way of putting it. That's what I
Speaker 2: was trying to say.
Speaker 1: It just feels I almost feel paint by numbers when
Speaker 1: I jump into, like come off a cliff and there's
Speaker 1: a fight right in front of me. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll take these guys out more out of obligation. They're
Speaker 1: not part of this puzzle I'm trying to solve, like
Speaker 1: Doom Eternal did. But I do appreciate the balance between
Speaker 1: melee and range.
Speaker 2: So you're saying Doom sixteen is more of a Jackson
Speaker 2: Pollock of violence, where this is more of a Bob Ross.
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying. I'm sorry, I'm using art
Speaker 2: art references again.
Speaker 1: I know that's my thing, but yeah, that's a good
Speaker 1: way to put it. I would say do Maternal was
Speaker 1: like the Monette. Oh, and then I'd say this is
Speaker 1: more of a Mike Mike being character wines. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: say Doom twenty sixteen was why did I ask for this?
Speaker 1: Doom twenty sixteen was more of like a like a
Speaker 1: premier cruise shabilee, really good, you know what you're gonna get,
Speaker 1: Like just you know what you want is there in spades.
Speaker 1: It's not trying to be something it's not. I would
Speaker 1: say Doom Maternal almost to the to the Shabbie. The
Speaker 1: premier CRUCIBLEE of Doom twenty sixteen was more of this,
Speaker 1: like Condrew, kind of like Viigne Marsan Roussan Blend. It's
Speaker 1: like it's doing a lot, it's in your face, it's
Speaker 1: coming out of you. And then dark Age is almost
Speaker 1: like a correction there. It's like, oh, it was like
Speaker 1: a little bit too much oak in this Conjrew. I think,
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna scale back a bit and make
Speaker 1: it a bit more formulaic, but then they just end
Speaker 1: up with like this, this this really like this this
Speaker 1: reserve Pinogriggio from alto Adage, And I'm not really sure
Speaker 1: where I stand with it, because it's delicious, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, I just don't know if I'm going to
Speaker 1: go back to it night after night, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 2: I mean, Mary and I were going to respond, but
Speaker 2: I could see it in both of our faces that
Speaker 2: you just said everything we were gonna So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: now that is fun. I continually just want to be
Speaker 2: playing it when I'm not, which is like my sign
Speaker 2: of a good game. There's not a lot of friction there.
Speaker 2: It's just like, you know, I like the fact that
Speaker 2: like there are secrets and things, but it's easy enough
Speaker 2: to kind of like look at the map and just
Speaker 2: you know, I'll go figure out how to open that thing.
Speaker 1: This more than the other two games, I'm having trouble
Speaker 1: with some of these collectibles. Maybe maybe I'm like, again,
Speaker 1: maybe it's a by virtue of me stepping away for
Speaker 1: a few days. There's certain things I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what they want me to do with this door,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying the shield slam, I'm trying the shield throw,
Speaker 1: I'm trying the I'm looking around for the flesh statues
Speaker 1: that catch your shield and launch you. And maybe I'm
Speaker 1: just not like pouring over every nook and cranny enough,
Speaker 1: which is possible because you know those games.
Speaker 5: A lot of times it's like a hole. Like every
Speaker 5: time I go to a door and they're.
Speaker 4: Showing they're showing me like some fucking thing that I
Speaker 4: want behind a wall. It's not to get in that wall.
Speaker 4: It's if there's a hole somewhere or drop down one
Speaker 4: hundred percent. It's usually like there's a small little section.
Speaker 4: What I've also found that I just like, maybe this
Speaker 4: is like nostalgia, but this game a lot if once
Speaker 4: you enter an area, turn around. It would be amazed
Speaker 4: how often they have hid something behind you when you
Speaker 4: enter a new space. And I think that's so cute
Speaker 4: and so indicative of like a classic game design, which
Speaker 4: just like explore dude, like get in there, like look around.
Speaker 5: I've really enjoyed all the little secrets that I found.
Speaker 5: It makes me feel really special and I don't feel
Speaker 5: like I have to find them, which is also really nice.
Speaker 5: I miss them all the time, you know, at the
Speaker 5: end of the level, and I'll tell you how much
Speaker 5: shit you miss and I'm never like, oh damn it,
Speaker 5: I really needed that to get through this level. Like
Speaker 5: I'm fine either way. I feel great when you get
Speaker 5: the money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Like I don't feel like I'm hurting it
Speaker 1: if I like, oh I didn't get everything there, I
Speaker 1: can't afford this upgrade, Like I feel like I've been
Speaker 1: upgrading at a good clip. You know.
Speaker 4: They put the gold bars also as secret finders.
Speaker 2: Most of them are Ye.
Speaker 4: If you see gold bars up a staircase, like that's
Speaker 4: you're in, Like that's a secret like and it's so funny,
Speaker 4: like sometimes you'll just be like, oh, he candy, oop,
Speaker 4: he candy, and you're just like following this very obvious trail,
Speaker 4: and then I walk into a door and it's like
Speaker 4: a secret discovered, and there's a guy who's like, we
Speaker 4: can't stay here, and they're having some like generic audio
Speaker 4: going on. It's just like, well, this isn't too much
Speaker 4: of a secret, guys, but God, love you for letting
Speaker 4: me feel like I'm very smart by following these gold
Speaker 4: bars into this very obvious area.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I will also say I've heard some people say
Speaker 1: there's too much story for them in a Doom game.
Speaker 1: There's not. There's I don't know what the last time
Speaker 1: someone played Doom Eternal was there. There's some stuff going
Speaker 1: on there. Even Doom twenty sixteen they had those two
Speaker 1: main villains, like, there's definitely a bit more here. What
Speaker 1: they're trying to do with the characters, and honestly reminds
Speaker 1: me of Gears of War and the vibes of what's happening.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's it doesn't overstay.
Speaker 1: It's welcome to me.
Speaker 2: It's it gets annoying because, like you know, I'm not
Speaker 2: a big story guy in games. It bugs me if
Speaker 2: it's like in the middle of the mission, if it
Speaker 2: was taking a break, Like every time I enter a
Speaker 2: new area where it's like, oh, here's a cut scene
Speaker 2: I gotta wait for that's a metal year thing. But
Speaker 2: like they're longish levels, so you know, I could be
Speaker 2: playing for thirty forty minutes before an in between level
Speaker 2: cut scene. At that point I'm fine to set my
Speaker 2: controller down and check my phone for a second. I
Speaker 2: don't know, like none of them are super long or anything.
Speaker 2: I yeah, it has not bothered me at all. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I sorry, go ahead. Well, I was gonna say playing
Speaker 2: it in you know a lot of Doom talk lately,
Speaker 2: Mike Manatti was talking about recently playing the Doom one
Speaker 2: and two, the night Dive remix that recently came out,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, you know what, I'm kind
Speaker 2: of in the mood for that. So I did download
Speaker 2: Doom one and two I think came out like in
Speaker 2: the last six months or something like that, and sure enough,
Speaker 2: they do incredible remakes and everything. Oh yeah, system Shock
Speaker 2: the thing. The thing was really good.
Speaker 3: They're like they're becoming they're like the new Blue Point
Speaker 3: with that stuff.
Speaker 1: They're killing it to discredit Blue Point, but like night
Speaker 1: Time's kind of the one that's hot right now. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they're really nailing with the Doom thing, Like
Speaker 2: you know, you can have it be like the clean,
Speaker 2: you know, more modern HUD, or you can make it
Speaker 2: look like all that chunky doss font and everything. So
Speaker 2: I went just old with everything. It's like they have
Speaker 2: a whole remixed soundtrack and put it on.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this is fucking This remixed soundtrack is
Speaker 1: incredible with like you know, like real you know, guitar
Speaker 1: music and stuff.
Speaker 2: But then I just switched back to the MIDI and
Speaker 2: it's like, eh, kind of just want to hear the
Speaker 2: original Doom music. This is still really fucking good.
Speaker 1: That game is still very fun for being one of
Speaker 1: the first FPS games, Like that's it's crazy that it
Speaker 1: holds up. I have never played Doom three. I never
Speaker 1: really did either. It got kind of ravaged in the
Speaker 1: reviews back in the day. I you know, I the
Speaker 1: most I saw of it. Tim Terry was playing it
Speaker 1: when I lived in their house for that month.
Speaker 3: He was playing that.
Speaker 1: He finished Resumeal four and he was doing all the
Speaker 1: like the hardest ship to do in Resume four, and
Speaker 1: then I think he jumped at Doom three to show
Speaker 1: me almost like survival horror ish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of weird stuff like computer interfaces and
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of like puzzles on screens and
Speaker 2: things like. I've seen enough of it where it's like,
Speaker 2: this doesn't feel like the Doom I'm used to. But
Speaker 2: I feel like there's been a reevaluation recently where some
Speaker 2: people kind of come around on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to go back and try it out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Between that, it's it's nice that I feel like Doom
Speaker 1: the reboot. The franchise has just maintained its momentum since
Speaker 1: it got rebooted. Wolfenstein, though, and I loved new Blood. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no.
Speaker 2: Old Blood.
Speaker 1: I did not like new Blood was the co opera.
Speaker 1: Old Blood was the DLC for the first was the
Speaker 1: second game? Which I loved new Blood or Young Blood?
Speaker 1: I I really you know, I think Arcane a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff I don't like about that game. Is there
Speaker 1: a new Wolfenstein on the Jones? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, machine Games in Sweden. That's what they did.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Wolfenstein's not happening soon. But I mean, what's
Speaker 1: the difference between what nazis Oh gotcha? Oh yeah, They're
Speaker 1: they're always killing Nazis in their games. That's a given.
Speaker 2: It's a different vibe to it, for sure. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: that Wolfenstein was way more just gleeful violence and just
Speaker 2: wild story things where it's like I feel Indie was very,
Speaker 2: very faithful to the vibe of Indy.
Speaker 1: I feel the need to remind you too, And I
Speaker 1: guess people listening that Indiana Jones is eligible for any
Speaker 1: awards we might want to nominate it for this coming
Speaker 1: year because we we went I think a week like
Speaker 1: a few days after it released, a few days after
Speaker 1: the reviews went up, a few days after we did that, definitely.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no dark Ages. I'm digging. I'm actually kind
Speaker 3: of glad.
Speaker 1: I don't know what more they would have done if
Speaker 1: they just kept going same timeline, whatever you want to
Speaker 1: say for after Eternal, I'm sure they would have figured
Speaker 1: it out. They're good at that stuff. But dark A
Speaker 1: just feels pretty new. I like the balance between it's
Speaker 1: not just melee and ranged. I like that they've embraced
Speaker 1: the idea of defense, which I did not think I
Speaker 1: would want in, you know, in a series known for
Speaker 1: like their whole philosophy is always moved forward and keep
Speaker 1: killing stuff and be aggressive. They somehow have maintained that,
Speaker 1: but also like propelled it with defense and melee stuff,
Speaker 1: which is pretty impressive.
Speaker 2: Almost more offense than it is defense half the time,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's when I'm fighting like a I don't know
Speaker 1: what's the enemy. You see all the time, the big
Speaker 1: dudes with the double arm cannon flame role what they're called.
Speaker 1: It's it's when you're fighting them. It's like they kind
Speaker 1: of if you really you're fighting a tougher one with armor.
Speaker 1: They really require you to use a lot of the
Speaker 1: tools at your disposal because it's like, oh, they'll do
Speaker 1: the ground pound, which you could parry because it's green,
Speaker 1: but then they do the flames. Would you have to
Speaker 1: block if you don't want to take any damage? Of
Speaker 1: course you can or dodge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: I'm really liking that game. That's where my I'm only
Speaker 1: mid game right now, I'm past the midpoint. I think
Speaker 1: there's twenty two missions. I'm at fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 5: It's pretty clear, right, It like even gives you like
Speaker 5: a top like when you're finished, which I was just
Speaker 5: gonna say, I really like that.
Speaker 4: The game says we have twenty two chapters. Enjoy them.
Speaker 4: It takes out some of the anxiety of like how
Speaker 4: far is it?
Speaker 2: How much?
Speaker 4: How much longer do I have?
Speaker 5: I get to enjoy each chapter. I know where I'm
Speaker 5: at in the process, and I'm enjoying the ride. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think it's a really well designed game. I think
Speaker 5: it's modern to tell your audience how long they have left.
Speaker 4: That is neat and I like it.
Speaker 1: The last thing I'll say that they're so good at
Speaker 1: like communicating what the game is doing. So anytime you
Speaker 1: get like a hint of a new upgrade, you know
Speaker 1: exactly how it's going to change the game. Like they
Speaker 1: show you, Okay, here's how the shield works, here's the
Speaker 1: cool shit you could do with it. The moment, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's just you get a chainsaw blade
Speaker 1: around the edge. You're like, oh fuck, I get I
Speaker 1: get exactly how this is going to change the game.
Speaker 1: And then of course they fuck with those expectations. But
Speaker 1: like they're almost like inviting you along for their riot.
Speaker 1: They're like, you're right there in the co pilot seat
Speaker 1: where you think you are. But then they do stuff
Speaker 1: with the new tools you're getting. We're like, oh no,
Speaker 1: I've just been a passenger this whole time they're piloting
Speaker 1: this whole thing.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the shield, it's like, I feel like it.
Speaker 2: It's so much more of a fun addition than like,
Speaker 2: you know, I like the flamethrower. I like the kind
Speaker 2: of grapple shotgun thing and eternal but like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: this feels like more of a core part of the
Speaker 2: game rather than like I'll switch to the shotgun and
Speaker 2: do the grapple thing.
Speaker 1: Like I'm loving it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they had fun making this and it shows, and
Speaker 5: I think that that is one of the reasons why
Speaker 5: we're having so much fun playing it. And I'm excited
Speaker 5: for this new era where Doom is not only relevant,
Speaker 5: but it's something we really look forward to. Like I
Speaker 5: get excited when these are coming out because I know
Speaker 5: they're going to be fun now, Like I know they're
Speaker 5: going to be good.
Speaker 2: I just love it when you know games from my
Speaker 2: childhood are relevant and good and not just a nostalgia act,
Speaker 2: you know, Like I look at Mario Zelda, Mario Kart, Doom.
Speaker 2: There's a recent one. I think about Mortal kmbat all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 1: Mortal Kombat, I feel like, is such a fucking great
Speaker 1: example of that because it's like it is still so
Speaker 1: true to what it's been since the early nineties. It's
Speaker 1: been Ed Boone at the Helm the entire time, through
Speaker 1: all the ups and downs. It has evolved, it has
Speaker 1: taken risks, it's done weird things, but it's been Mortal
Speaker 1: Kombat through and through, and I just I really really
Speaker 1: love that because that was such an important series to
Speaker 1: me as a kid, and just every time there's a
Speaker 1: new Mortal kmbat, it's like, god damn, they are still
Speaker 1: fucking do same with Mario Kart. Mario Kart World is
Speaker 1: about to come out very soon, and it's like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: from some of my earlies, childhood memories playing that game
Speaker 1: with my dad, Mario Kart has never left my life,
Speaker 1: and it's never just been it.
Speaker 2: It's not just a nostalgia thing. It's not like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm playing Earthworm Gym because I played it when I
Speaker 2: was ten. It's like, no, Mario Kart's still a fucking
Speaker 2: force to be reckoned. With ninety six tracks you can play.
Speaker 2: It's after the DLC and the Deluxe Edition. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like people like Ed Boone, that's so fucking impressive.
Speaker 1: Not to just credit the series with just him, but
Speaker 1: obviously he's the head of the snake there. It's like
Speaker 1: for him to stay in touch that much with video games,
Speaker 1: not just like continue to make games, but to understand
Speaker 1: the zeitgeist surrounding them enough to then toy with it
Speaker 1: with characters and gameplay mechanics.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have that kind of Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's crazy. He's one of the best. And like
Speaker 2: I don't know, like how many big name developers and
Speaker 2: again old teams surrounded him. But like if you're looking
Speaker 2: at like a studio head or director or something like,
Speaker 2: you know, Miamoto is not sitting there, you know, making
Speaker 2: the new Mario in his garage anymore. You know, it's
Speaker 2: like how many of these?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope Hugo Martin continues to get those opportunities
Speaker 1: with Doom games or other shooters whatever he does, Like
Speaker 1: if they can keep messing with Doom and I I'm
Speaker 1: not super optimistic, just thinking about how things are going
Speaker 1: with Microsoft and whatnot. I don't know how many more
Speaker 1: chances they're going to get to make games like this,
Speaker 1: and these games are you know, a different kind of
Speaker 1: scale than a lot of fighting games in the grand
Speaker 1: scheme of things. But like, I don't know, it's always great.
Speaker 1: It's great to see like in this date and age
Speaker 1: people continue to make that kind of stuff. That's like
Speaker 1: adapting with the times and finding success with it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, or Larry forty years later, still really drilling those
Speaker 5: balls and doing a great job at it. Imagine which
Speaker 5: culture changes in forty years and you're still able to
Speaker 5: drill a ball.
Speaker 2: Larry's Hideo Kajima of drilling bowling ball.
Speaker 1: I get Larry Schwab and Ed Boone on a podcast stats,
Speaker 1: I would be fine.
Speaker 2: Just if we need to sub one week, bring in Larry,
Speaker 2: that would be I would do it.
Speaker 1: I would do it.
Speaker 3: Dan, here's a free idea for this new venture years.
Speaker 1: Find like local small business artisans who have just been
Speaker 1: embedded a community for like forty years, mom and pop
Speaker 1: kind of stuff and are just very good at what
Speaker 1: they do. Get them to talk to like the Ed Boons.
Speaker 1: Huba Martin's, Oh, like that feels very letterman Like. Let's
Speaker 1: find the guy that works the day, get down the
Speaker 1: street and send him to be our Olympics correspondent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that, Okay, they talk for half an hour
Speaker 1: each and it's like they'll find some common ground. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I love bowling balls as much as you love like
Speaker 1: rendering lighting. Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Got shot down numerous times and bomb probably for good reason.
Speaker 2: Then probably still would today is to just task Rabbit
Speaker 2: four people to come play fifty turns of Mario Party
Speaker 2: against each other, like four random people that don't know
Speaker 2: each other, and just be like, you will be paid.
Speaker 2: You will just be We'll give you snacks and drinks.
Speaker 4: You will be paid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something about that. If I was one of them,
Speaker 1: I would start to feel like I'm in a Saw movie.
Speaker 2: I'd make it very clear, they're like, here's what we are,
Speaker 2: here's what you're gonna do. It's not we're not making
Speaker 2: fun of you. It's just like, let's see what this
Speaker 2: is like.
Speaker 1: I yeah, no, I agree. The The end result might
Speaker 1: be really funny. But if I was them, my alarm
Speaker 1: bells would be going off as.
Speaker 4: Soon as I kill me. I would be murdered because
Speaker 4: you have told me that you were going to pay
Speaker 4: me to play Mario Kart.
Speaker 2: I would jump at the chance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'm glad you're still with us. Glad you'd
Speaker 4: ever gone to that white van who said that they
Speaker 4: were going to let you play Mario Kart all day.
Speaker 2: I've done a lot of very questionable like I shouldn't
Speaker 2: have gotten gone there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing in.
Speaker 2: College I used to frequently if I ever saw party bus,
Speaker 2: just like whoever I was at the bar with, I'd
Speaker 2: be like, pt is off on this party bus and
Speaker 2: see where it goes. And I would just hop on
Speaker 2: and befriend people on the party bus, whoever was the
Speaker 2: birthday guy or whatever or some party or something. Just
Speaker 2: befriend people and then they're just like, oh, yeah, you're
Speaker 2: part of the crew. Then you wind up in fucking
Speaker 2: Topeka or something, and yeah, nothing bad ever happened. It
Speaker 2: was always fun.
Speaker 1: Everyone loved me.
Speaker 6: It was great.
Speaker 4: The original wedding.
Speaker 2: I could have gotten killed so many times.
Speaker 1: I'd make for a good bachelor party killing you.
Speaker 4: M Yeah, you're all united.
Speaker 1: You had the Hampton's you're a bachelor, We had you
Speaker 1: in the woods wherever we wanted.
Speaker 2: We easily killed me in the Hampton Say. It would
Speaker 2: have been so easy.
Speaker 4: At your bachelor party.
Speaker 2: That was about Mark. That was about Miss pac Man.
Speaker 4: That was about Miss pac Man.
Speaker 2: But who won an end?
Speaker 1: It was me. It was me.
Speaker 2: I got the pictures too.
Speaker 4: You can't use my own proof against me.
Speaker 7: I got my own proof and a court a flaw.
Speaker 7: Let the record show that Dan changed all of the photography.
Speaker 2: You fucking assaulted me physically. All I did was beat
Speaker 2: you in a video game. You think the courts are
Speaker 2: gonna side with you.
Speaker 4: Your own wife told you that you deserved it.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's assible in court.
Speaker 4: Within ten seconds she was like it's too much. Get
Speaker 4: away from her, and I was like, get away from me.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna kill this man.
Speaker 1: So just jackass.
Speaker 4: Yes, you were doing this thing where I was getting
Speaker 4: close to beating your score, and when I would get
Speaker 4: close to beating your score, you get really close to
Speaker 4: me be like, oh you better not making any mistakes
Speaker 4: because you're very close to beating my score. Better not
Speaker 4: be don't go left it, And then I would. You
Speaker 4: were like psychologically.
Speaker 5: Fucking with me, which I think is like cheating in
Speaker 5: a way, like you weren't touching me. You're doing that
Speaker 5: thing where like like really annoying brothers where they're like I'm.
Speaker 3: Not touching you, Yeah, little brother energy.
Speaker 1: I've never been.
Speaker 5: To the degree where like I was close, you got
Speaker 5: in my face enough and I lost and I turned
Speaker 5: around and I socked you right in the arm, and.
Speaker 4: And Bank was there and was like, dang, you get
Speaker 4: out of here.
Speaker 1: Came down.
Speaker 3: I came or I came into the room.
Speaker 1: Like while Dan was kind of recoiling from it, and
Speaker 1: I could sense violence had just happened.
Speaker 4: No, but you was fencing up for it. He was ten,
Speaker 4: was eight back right when I hit him.
Speaker 2: It wasn't oh God, I might I'm gonna fuck this up.
Speaker 1: It was like Houdini. It was for shoot. Uh, not
Speaker 1: a work like I could tell it was for shoot.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, he's actually kind of thrown
Speaker 1: off from something.
Speaker 2: I remember very hit pretty hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 2: kind of threw me off.
Speaker 4: Was like punching a wet paper bag. It was like,
Speaker 4: I just I wanted to hurt you. And then as
Speaker 4: soon as I did it, I was like, ah, you
Speaker 4: really shouldn't punch people because.
Speaker 2: Of the Yeah, so who's the villain here?
Speaker 4: You still you. I haven't changed my tune. I don't
Speaker 4: always think violence is the answer, but I don't regret
Speaker 4: hitting you.
Speaker 2: I won in the end, so whatever history is my favorite.
Speaker 1: Yeah, weekend maybe. And then we discovered we did the
Speaker 1: we the garage had like twelve shwind bikes on hooks,
Speaker 1: so we made they took advantage of that.
Speaker 4: We all hit the bike, so it was so cute.
Speaker 3: And then we like found this.
Speaker 1: A couple of my friends, like local friends here, found
Speaker 1: that backwoods route into a different neighborhood and then we
Speaker 1: stumbled across that gas station with the beers. We all
Speaker 1: there was the fan that worked there, right, Oh no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's the liquor store. No, we this might have been.
Speaker 1: It was my buddy Drew a nick like found this
Speaker 1: path through the woods somehow. And then we came out
Speaker 1: into another neighborhood and there was like this bodega in
Speaker 1: the corner that we got beers at and rode back
Speaker 1: with beers and paper bags to the house.
Speaker 3: The the liquor store was Dylan was a fan named Dylan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, good memory. That was a fun trip.
Speaker 4: We had a good time. Everybody drank a lot and
Speaker 4: I won the misspac Man contest jaking.
Speaker 1: At that part out. But yeah, it was a good time. Dan,
Speaker 1: what's I know what it is, But how's delivered all costs.
Speaker 2: Actually, I want to segue from our Doom conversation into
Speaker 2: I've been playing We're talking about Doom three, and I've
Speaker 2: been playing a game that runs on the Doom three
Speaker 2: engine and Deep.
Speaker 1: I don't know, have you guys heard of us skin Deep?
Speaker 4: No, tell me about it.
Speaker 2: So I've actually specifically thought of Mike a lot.
Speaker 1: Well, it looks like Shadow Run kind of art almost well,
Speaker 1: always described to me as an im sim but like comedic,
Speaker 1: and so soon as I heard that, I thought Mike
Speaker 1: Mahart because yeah, people were saying like, oh, it's like
Speaker 1: Prey or Dishonored, but like if it was funny, and
Speaker 1: and yes, that does appear to be an accurate description
Speaker 1: of it. I suck at it, so like, I don't
Speaker 1: think I loved it, But I think this is a
Speaker 1: me problem because like it clearly gives you a million
Speaker 1: tools here where it's like you're in space and you're
Speaker 1: saving cats from like spaceship, like space.
Speaker 4: I can get behind this is this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the most Mike ma hearty coded game ever.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you're in space and some saving cats and
Speaker 2: so there's stuff like okay, you can go up and
Speaker 2: there's a soap dispenser and if you hit that, it'll
Speaker 2: make a cloud of flammable soap liquid in the air
Speaker 2: and you can go hide somewhere wait for a guy
Speaker 2: to walk through it, and you can throw a lighter
Speaker 2: and you can you know, ignite everything. Or like you
Speaker 2: can set a banana down next to an airlock, and
Speaker 2: a guy slipped on a banana and get sucked out
Speaker 2: of an airlock into space next to a what air lock? No,
Speaker 2: you sleep on a what? But nanna thank you?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you slip on the banana, and but I
Speaker 2: suck at it. So I would just get caught and
Speaker 2: throw like pepper in their face and then go like
Speaker 2: try to beat them to death of the pipe. So
Speaker 2: it was frustrating for me because it's like I could
Speaker 2: tell there were so many cool things you could do,
Speaker 2: and I wanted to do them, but I just kept
Speaker 2: sucking up. But I think I think either review would
Speaker 2: be much better than me at this, and it's fun too.
Speaker 2: Is like when you knock out an enemy, you have
Speaker 2: to like their head comes off and you have to
Speaker 2: to kill them kill them. You have to like send
Speaker 2: their head out into space so you can throw their
Speaker 2: head into an air lock and jettison it out, or
Speaker 2: you can throw it in a trash can that exits
Speaker 2: into space. Otherwise it will like shre like the head
Speaker 2: gets like reconnected to the body basically, and they come
Speaker 2: back to life. So this is a weird game for sure.
Speaker 1: Look, you're saving cats that are in like these like
Speaker 1: locked up like in case of fire break the glass
Speaker 1: kind of containers.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you're getting like a blue cat key and
Speaker 2: you go save Jerry the cat. And then after you
Speaker 2: save them, they're like emailing you. So like you go
Speaker 2: up to terminals and you're like responding to cat emails
Speaker 2: and having conversations with them and stuff. It's it's got
Speaker 2: a lot of personality. I think it works. I think
Speaker 2: describing it, I would worry that it's like, Oh, is
Speaker 2: this gonna be fucking Internet? Oh isn't bacon sweet? I
Speaker 2: can't have cheeseburger like wacky random humor.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 2: It seems actually funny.
Speaker 1: Like I like the tone of this game a lot,
Speaker 1: and I think if I was just better at these
Speaker 1: type of games, I would love it.
Speaker 2: But I got it here what Mike would.
Speaker 1: Think of it? But also Mary, I think this might
Speaker 1: be like, this could be like a fun stream indie
Speaker 1: game for you.
Speaker 5: Usually when they're games like this, I struggle with them too,
Speaker 5: because I'm not sneaky, and usually unless it's being more
Speaker 5: clear with what it wants me to do, I'll be
Speaker 5: like this is too sandboxy.
Speaker 4: Just tell me like what you want of me in
Speaker 4: this situation.
Speaker 1: But I love the.
Speaker 4: Humor of it.
Speaker 5: It's like it looks like another way you can go
Speaker 5: heart of the heads is by flushing them. This is
Speaker 5: a funny idea, is like you're just like getting rid
Speaker 5: of these heads after you've killed them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like, yeah, I'm seeing gameplay.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you got you escaped one sector or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say through the trash shoot. So
Speaker 1: now you smell and you're tracking fark like smell clouds
Speaker 1: around which they can follow you by.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I came out of a stinky thing or whatever,
Speaker 2: and like those text on the screens like you are smelly.
Speaker 2: It's oh shit, I'm smelly, so like you got to
Speaker 2: keep your stink in mind. But it's also stuff like
Speaker 2: you know, you you break a window with something and
Speaker 2: then you walk past it and oh shit, you get
Speaker 2: glass in your feet and you have to like, you know,
Speaker 2: pull the glass out and stuff like. There's just a
Speaker 2: lot of interesting interactions with the environment, in the enemies
Speaker 2: in this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks rad I like the I kind of
Speaker 1: read this description in Mary's voice. It's like, skin Deep
Speaker 1: is an immersive first person shooter. We got sneezing, we
Speaker 1: got things getting stuck in your feet. It's is the
Speaker 1: most like Mary wrote that kind of Okay.
Speaker 4: Maybe I did their marketing. Yeah, You're out numbered. I love.
Speaker 5: I haven't heard much about this, and I also haven't
Speaker 5: heard much from Annapurna in a while, so I'm quite
Speaker 5: interested in what's going on over there.
Speaker 3: Blendo Games.
Speaker 1: What else did they do?
Speaker 3: They Quadrilateral Cowboy and Cyber No, what's it called?
Speaker 1: Quadrilateral Cowboy, Gravity Bone Flotilla, Quadrilateral Cowboy, Adam Zombie, no
Speaker 1: Hypno Space Outlaw was the same people that did that.
Speaker 1: They did another similar game. But yeah, okay, yeah, so
Speaker 1: you know the humor is good, you know, yeah, Quastion
Speaker 1: Literal Cowboys humor was definitely good. The hacking game for
Speaker 1: those didn't play it was it was funny. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to play this, Yeah, I'd love to hear what
Speaker 1: you two think of it, because I wanted to add
Speaker 1: to kart Go right now?
Speaker 2: Do that expense?
Speaker 1: This is a company that I'm joking.
Speaker 2: We work for companies and expense stuff.
Speaker 1: Look at us. No, I'm uh, I'm just gonna. Oh
Speaker 1: I don't have a Steam. Oh I'm not in Steam,
Speaker 1: or I was in the I was on.
Speaker 4: The websites, not Steam anyway, what other games.
Speaker 3: I was on the website.
Speaker 4: I don't care.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hold on a second, let's check this out.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, minus seventy percent of the Wischer three
Speaker 1: wild Hout with expansions seven forty nine.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, saying things out loud, My god.
Speaker 3: Oh Dan's gone and it's just me doing this.
Speaker 4: Yes, Mike, you're playing. They are billions.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is gonna be a really quick thing.
Speaker 1: I I don't think. No, it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Fairbellians does not have rats.
Speaker 2: What am I thinking of I don't know.
Speaker 1: Depends. I think zombies, not rats, though it's rats. There's
Speaker 1: no rats in it's zombies. So I don't think.
Speaker 3: I think this would have been pre fire Escape.
Speaker 1: Uh this game.
Speaker 3: Numantean Game's Spanish studio made it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It's it's not a new game whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I just went back to replay it lately. It's still
Speaker 1: really fucking good.
Speaker 2: It's like RTS, but you're like basically just building the
Speaker 2: base and then the waves of rats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it was made for people who play real
Speaker 1: time strategy games.
Speaker 2: Zombies, not Wrave of rats.
Speaker 1: See that's wave. But I liked it. I remember I
Speaker 1: played a decent amount of it, and there's like a shit,
Speaker 1: this is this is kind of scratching, like a base
Speaker 1: building itch. Yeah. No, well so it's it's built. They
Speaker 1: literally built it for people who turtle in real time
Speaker 1: strategy games, whereas you played defensively and you slowly build
Speaker 1: out your base and build up your the strength of
Speaker 1: your forces.
Speaker 3: So you're just you start off with a like a.
Speaker 1: In command center rather and you get a few different
Speaker 1: like bow and arrow characters and a soldier, and you're
Speaker 1: just expanding across this wasteland, building shelters and then fishing
Speaker 1: huts for food, lumber mills, stone quarries, and eventually you're
Speaker 1: building up an army. But your main concern is that
Speaker 1: every like ten depending on the difficulty, every ten to
Speaker 1: thirty days, Zombies waves of zombies are gonna attack, and
Speaker 1: the game's tech is such that it can render a
Speaker 1: lot of zombies at once and explosions and blood, blood
Speaker 1: pops and whatnot. So you're just it's defending this base
Speaker 1: over time and slowly expanding it when you need more space. Eventually,
Speaker 1: the last wave, it's like, all right, they're coming.
Speaker 3: They are billions.
Speaker 1: It's not actually a billion, but it's quite a few
Speaker 1: of them. If you haven't played this game, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If you're a strategy fan, real time strategy fan and
Speaker 1: you like Turtling and Command of conquer or Company of Heroes,
Speaker 1: what have you?
Speaker 2: Check us out. It's still in really good spot.
Speaker 1: Do not.
Speaker 3: Don't play the campaign. Play the survival mode.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, they started with survival mode in early access
Speaker 1: and they added the campaign. All the campaign does is
Speaker 1: some very loose story on top of pretty boring linear
Speaker 1: missions that introduce certain units at a very slow pace,
Speaker 1: as opposed to survival, which is very much about kind
Speaker 1: of making the most of your time, and you know,
Speaker 1: you send out parties to go investigate zombie villages and
Speaker 1: get the resources there. I don't know, just a shout
Speaker 1: to them, because this game has held up. Have you
Speaker 1: heard of a Tempest rising?
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the Command of Conquer inspired.
Speaker 1: I want to play that.
Speaker 2: I've played very briefly and it's extremely Command and Conquer like.
Speaker 2: They even got like Frank Klapaki for some like music tracks.
Speaker 2: What era mechanically speaking, maybe like a Tiberian Sun or
Speaker 2: a Tiberian Sun Red Alert to era.
Speaker 1: I would say, oh, I think you would like I
Speaker 1: would maybe we should play it against each other at
Speaker 1: some point.
Speaker 3: No, I know the time period're saying.
Speaker 1: I was saying Tiberian Sun Radulers, who are very different
Speaker 1: games in terms of like how they flow.
Speaker 2: The units themselves are more GDI verse NOD, but a
Speaker 2: gameplay itself and a lot of the sounds is like
Speaker 2: the fucking unit sounds sound like they're straight out a
Speaker 2: Red Alert too. So it's definitely thinking of like numerous
Speaker 2: Command of Conquer games while playing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to play that for sure? Is it
Speaker 1: early access? There's a fully out it's out out now. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think we got a couple of emails asking if
Speaker 2: we had played that.
Speaker 1: I'm not yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to play more. For sure strategy game.
Speaker 1: Our real time strategy is kind of the thing I
Speaker 1: go to the most lately to get away from everything
Speaker 1: in terms of, like I'm playing new games, but when
Speaker 1: I have a choice of what to play outside of
Speaker 1: trying to keep up with new releases, it's real time strategy.
Speaker 1: That's probably why I went back to their Billions, but
Speaker 1: Tempest Rising is high on my list as well.
Speaker 3: Nice Mary, what else have you been playing?
Speaker 4: I played a game that Dan recommended to me.
Speaker 5: Dan told me that he was playing this game called
Speaker 5: Bionic Bay that was like kind of limbo, you know,
Speaker 5: where you.
Speaker 4: Just go through it. You die, but you do your
Speaker 4: best to survive and you learn the different rules of
Speaker 4: the world. And I I he was right. I'm playing
Speaker 4: it and I think it's really cool. It has atmosphere
Speaker 4: out the wazoo. Oh yeah, you are essentially in some
Speaker 4: kind of like futuristic fucked up factory. I don't know
Speaker 4: what they're making in that factory, but he's deadly. There
Speaker 4: is like a bomb up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's bombs everywhere, and the gears are sharp, and
Speaker 5: you're just this tiny person in this giant factory. If
Speaker 5: you look at any screenshot or any gameplay from this game,
Speaker 5: you'll you just this tiny little person with these gangly
Speaker 5: little arms and you're dipping diving through these giant mechanical
Speaker 5: parts trying to survive.
Speaker 4: Now, the interesting component of this game that I don't
Speaker 4: know if you explained. Maybe I was like I'm not listening,
Speaker 4: but like I don't remember you telling me about the
Speaker 4: swipsop ability ability.
Speaker 5: Where you can like punch stuff and then you can
Speaker 5: swap places with it, which is really nice and new
Speaker 5: way to play on this limbo type game where you're
Speaker 5: constantly dying and getting crossed or electrocuted or melted or whatever.
Speaker 5: But like in this one, maybe a laser is coming
Speaker 5: towards you and there's a box, so you have to
Speaker 5: switch places with the box.
Speaker 4: The laser hits the box and not you. Now you're
Speaker 4: hiding behind the box. I think that's a really fun
Speaker 4: concept behind it.
Speaker 5: I think there are other games that are like completely
Speaker 5: dedicated to swip swapping, like Swapper and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Like I think if you like things like that, this
Speaker 4: game is so up your alley. I think it's been
Speaker 4: a fun ride so far.
Speaker 2: And even though the platforming, like the jumping that like
Speaker 2: roll dive, you know, dive.
Speaker 5: In the air like that dive then jump on. Yeah,
Speaker 5: there's a roll jump dive jump dive is the longest
Speaker 5: and it's a big ass jump and that's pretty fun.
Speaker 2: And then sometimes when you're doing that with like swapping
Speaker 2: a thing out like okay, and then I'm gonna drop
Speaker 2: this block onto spike so i can land on it,
Speaker 2: and like, oh, it's really fucking cool.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of platforming in this that I don't
Speaker 5: think Limbo every day every day, and like, I know,
Speaker 5: maybe like the Limbo comparison is mostly because you die
Speaker 5: a lot, like you're experiencing something.
Speaker 4: And your intention. The intention is for you to die
Speaker 4: and then learn and be like, oh, okay, I see
Speaker 4: this crushes me. I need this faster.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like the atmosphere kind of like it's got that
Speaker 1: Limbo vibe to it. It is just like Limbo is heavier.
Speaker 2: The needle is more in the puzzle side with Limbo,
Speaker 2: and it's more in the platforming on this. But there's
Speaker 2: elements of both in both, you know, and.
Speaker 5: I and I appreciate platforming puzzles. It's like one of
Speaker 5: my favorite things to do. So over time, like figuring
Speaker 5: out how it wants me to get past a certain
Speaker 5: area has been quite fun. There's some gotcha's, just like
Speaker 5: any of these games where like you think you've gotten
Speaker 5: passinary and you touch a box and it explodes, and
Speaker 5: it's like, well those are the exploding boxes, and it's like,
Speaker 5: all right, you little bitch. But like, I think it's
Speaker 5: fun and lighthearted and simple enough, and the save states
Speaker 5: are respectful enough that even when I die randomly because
Speaker 5: they didn't know that that thing was going to kill me,
Speaker 5: I'm like five seconds away from that area.
Speaker 4: It's very considerate.
Speaker 2: I'm always laughing. I'm never frustrated when I like die
Speaker 2: to something like that because like there's not like a
Speaker 2: load time when you die, it's just like you're right
Speaker 2: back there. And like Mary said, the save states are
Speaker 2: just like right, like your checkpoints are right where you were,
Speaker 2: so like you'll never lose a ton of progress.
Speaker 1: It's I will just because your little dude gets fucked up.
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh that thing just cuts me, cuts
Speaker 1: my limbs off. Oh that thing explodes me. It's like
Speaker 1: a let's try that a different way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's not a frustrating game. I think it's
Speaker 4: I think it's nice.
Speaker 5: I also just will say visually, I think it's the
Speaker 5: something kind of almost monochrome about it, where like everything
Speaker 5: is either like all soft.
Speaker 4: Blues or like all warm orange hues. They've done a
Speaker 4: good job visually. The aesthetic is nice.
Speaker 5: You're in some kind of futuristic tech world or hell,
Speaker 5: I don't really know.
Speaker 2: It doesn't even try to like, it's just like, oh,
Speaker 2: something goes wrong, some science experiment went wrong at the beginning,
Speaker 2: and like at the end of like each like longer level,
Speaker 2: you'll get like a page of text from like a
Speaker 2: dead guy or a scientist or something. Yes, like okay, whatever,
Speaker 2: it's you don't. You don't need to follow anything story
Speaker 2: wise here on the Dowey.
Speaker 4: Versus Talkie scale. You just show up in this factory
Speaker 4: and like eight hours in there's like one paragraph yes
Speaker 4: you don't, and you don't have to read it.
Speaker 2: And I was worried that it wasn't gonna run well
Speaker 2: on steam Deck because like there's a lot of physics
Speaker 2: stuff going on in this game. But it is a
Speaker 2: fantastic flight game. It's a great steam Deck game. Highly recommended.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been I've really liked to thank you for
Speaker 4: the recommendation.
Speaker 5: I think this is perfect for someone who's just looking
Speaker 5: for like a I don't want to say brain dead.
Speaker 4: I think there are some puzzles, there are some thinking's,
Speaker 4: but not like not really.
Speaker 5: Most of the time, it's just like, get it done,
Speaker 5: figure it out, get past this glowing blob, don't get electrocuted,
Speaker 5: don't let this crush you.
Speaker 4: Like what I'm Yeah, yeah, don't get electrocuted. Don't let
Speaker 4: this crush you. Figure it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, awesome game again. Took like hours off of
Speaker 2: my Japan flight recently, just real good flight game.
Speaker 4: It's it's probably longer than it seems too, because I
Speaker 4: put like eight hours into it, and I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't know how far I am into it, but
Speaker 4: I bet I have a lot more to go.
Speaker 2: But it evolves enough, like it's not like you're just
Speaker 2: doing the same thing over and over again. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is really heavy on the swap mechanic, and then
Speaker 2: it's moving into a different thing. And yeah, it's very
Speaker 2: very smartly put together game.
Speaker 4: Cool, thank you for the wreck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're about to deliver at all costs. This is
Speaker 1: a wacky little game that speaks to me. Also on
Speaker 1: the Dewey scale. Actually there is there is more talking
Speaker 1: than nude expect in this game. But the dewey is
Speaker 1: very dewey. It's isometric. You're driving a car around. You're
Speaker 1: a delivery guy. You work for a company called We Deliver,
Speaker 1: and it's just really weird shit. So like one of
Speaker 1: the first emissions is like, oh, at this tiki bar,
Speaker 1: all of these watermelons got stinky and gross and there's
Speaker 1: bugs on them. It's like, okay, well, I'm going to
Speaker 1: get paid to take these watermelons to a pesticide plant
Speaker 1: or whatever and spram all with pesticides and then I'm going.
Speaker 2: And like while they're in the back of your truck.
Speaker 2: It's all physics. So it's like you start with sixty
Speaker 2: watermelons and you need to at least deliver twenty. But
Speaker 2: if you take a turn too sharp, nope, there go
Speaker 2: ten watermelons. You know, so you're like really trying to
Speaker 2: be careful.
Speaker 4: Delivering this crazy taxi boy in a way.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is a lot of delivering. It's not
Speaker 1: as yeah, say, ye taxi goes room, but I know
Speaker 1: that's not what it is. But it's just similar name convention. Sure, No,
Speaker 1: it's it's less time specifically than crazy Taxi. It crazy
Speaker 1: tax She was made for the arcade, so it's like
Speaker 1: get people out, get another quarter.
Speaker 2: Know this one is. There are some time missions, but
Speaker 2: it's a lot more just like get up and down
Speaker 2: this precarious mountain and drive a truck into a volcano.
Speaker 2: Or like that watermelon one, so you spray with pesticides,
Speaker 2: then you take them to like a place where you
Speaker 2: paint them all green, and then you go sell them
Speaker 2: back to the tiki bar because it's like, oh, look
Speaker 2: they're fresh melons. It's like no, you just sprayed the
Speaker 2: bugs off them and painted them green. So just weird
Speaker 2: shit like that. You're delivering fireworks, like boxes of fireworks
Speaker 2: while they're all going off and like they're exploding and
Speaker 2: making the physics on your cargo crazy. You can get
Speaker 2: spike spike wheels. You can like get a catapult that
Speaker 2: launches stuff off of your truck. There's alien stuff where
Speaker 2: you're following saucers around and taking pictures while they're abducting cows.
Speaker 2: It's just it almost it's got the vibe of like
Speaker 2: a weird PS two game that.
Speaker 5: I really it definitely does. It is that in like
Speaker 5: a nineteen forties mobster era.
Speaker 2: Sixties and it's kind of like idyllic sixties stuff, and
Speaker 2: like there is a little more story than I think
Speaker 2: I would want in this game, because it's not the
Speaker 2: best in terms of story, but the driving around I
Speaker 2: think a key thing is too. The destructibility is you
Speaker 2: can just drive straight through any building, Like you go
Speaker 2: into the suburbs and you're driving through every church, every store,
Speaker 2: every house. Oh yeah, yeah, and it's it all just
Speaker 2: is very satisfying the way everything kind of breaks apart
Speaker 2: and then it's like, oh you have to like go
Speaker 2: the opposite direction where it's like I have a bomb
Speaker 2: in the back of my truck and if I tap
Speaker 2: another car, it's going to like terminat or to nuke
Speaker 2: explode everything in this area. So it's it's it is
Speaker 2: all just delivering stuff for me to be for the
Speaker 2: most part. But it does a good job of kind
Speaker 2: of keeping those missions fresh. You know, I haven't played
Speaker 2: like something like that in a while.
Speaker 5: It seems fun, like kind of silly and quirky, and like,
Speaker 5: I don't it seems interesting though, but like what's the
Speaker 5: depth of it is?
Speaker 1: It?
Speaker 4: Is it super cash?
Speaker 2: It's ketch, Like I I have come to kind of
Speaker 2: play it as a podcast game. You know, at first,
Speaker 2: like the tone is very quirky and fun, but there
Speaker 2: is just a lot of story, and I'm I don't
Speaker 2: love it as much as like the tone great, the
Speaker 2: story itself, It's just kind of convoluted unnecessarily, and so
Speaker 2: I do find myself just kind of like listening to
Speaker 2: podcasts or you know, like I'll have something on in
Speaker 2: the background while I'm playing this, and like I'm just
Speaker 2: kind of here for the driving around and destroying shit.
Speaker 2: And the missions are more fun than the cut scenes
Speaker 2: between the missions, for sure. Yeah, very very very fun.
Speaker 2: And it turns out Konami's making video games again, so
Speaker 2: that's great.
Speaker 4: Why Konami does it feel like it should.
Speaker 1: Be Oh it doesn't.
Speaker 2: I was surprised when I went to that event in
Speaker 2: England and it was like, okay, I'm going to the
Speaker 2: Snake Eater event and so yeah, they got Snake Eater,
Speaker 2: but also Silent Hill too, which is also good, and
Speaker 2: then also delivered all costs, this quirky indie game. It's like, wait,
Speaker 2: they have three games here and they're all good and
Speaker 2: very surprising, Like we had two remakes but then one
Speaker 2: totally original indie game, like yeah.
Speaker 1: Cool. Remind me when Snake Eater's out. What is it
Speaker 1: like August September or something like that. Okay, so it's
Speaker 1: still a ways, yeah, but it is this year. They
Speaker 1: did August twenty six, so I mean that's just three
Speaker 1: months away. I can't wait for that. It No, it's
Speaker 1: what I played this very good, all right. I think
Speaker 1: it's all the games I played more Blueprints. I'm still
Speaker 1: playing that, liking it more and more than more I.
Speaker 4: Play it, I finish it because we're going to do
Speaker 4: a spoiler.
Speaker 3: Cast, so I love great.
Speaker 1: Will it be obvious when I quote unquote beat it,
Speaker 1: I didn't beat it.
Speaker 4: I mean, like you don't actually ever beat it. But
Speaker 4: there are a credits roll, right, But.
Speaker 1: Like the Hades, you know when you quote you like
Speaker 1: beat you you beat the bass game. I think if
Speaker 1: you see credits, I think you beat. Like if you
Speaker 1: want to be a real sicko about it, you can.
Speaker 1: And I resila, but it's like this will goes very
Speaker 1: deep and I had to play other seven at a
Speaker 1: certain point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I think you'll know where I'm not yet.
Speaker 5: There's like a there's like a vo and everything, like
Speaker 5: there's like a like there's like a voiceover and there's
Speaker 5: like a I don't know if it's animated, but there's
Speaker 5: like an ending.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's getting the room forty six. You know,
Speaker 2: it's the thing I tell you from the beginning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not lying about that, Okay, cool? Yeah, Uh,
Speaker 1: y'all keep playing that. I'd love to do a spoiler
Speaker 1: cast some point. All right, you wanna you want to
Speaker 1: talk about emails? Sure, yeah, let's talk about yeah, okay, cool. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So crazy that they used to like be like you
Speaker 4: are in so much trouble at this company and then
Speaker 4: they would stamp it and put it in the mail.
Speaker 2: Yeah you get it. Yeah, flee the country by that point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I could be it. I could be in I could
Speaker 2: be in fucking Guadaloupe by that point.
Speaker 3: You don't know where I'm going.
Speaker 1: We don't. We'll talk about emails all right, as usual.
Speaker 1: You can write into firescape cast at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: Get those questions comments in, mainly questions. Uh, We've we've
Speaker 1: got a pretty deep well most of the time, but
Speaker 1: we've been running through a bunch of them. Dan and
Speaker 1: Mike and Jeff I think did like eight on their episode.
Speaker 1: So keep filling up that inbox with questions for the show.
Speaker 1: We might read it if we like enough. Mary, can
Speaker 1: you read this one? From? This is from Jeffrey, Mary,
Speaker 1: I believe also like a Kanini fan, so long time
Speaker 1: fire Escape as well.
Speaker 4: But coo you an apology? Okay, here we go.
Speaker 5: Earlier tonight, I ordered my kids and our sitter the
Speaker 5: nude Dominoes stuff Cruss pizza, which.
Speaker 4: Apparently only comes out in medium. I didn't know that.
Speaker 4: Whatever I had a slice, it was good. I went
Speaker 4: out for drinks, et cetera, et cetera, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 5: Anyway, I got home and leftover room temp slice of
Speaker 5: aforementioned pizza, and goddamn it, if that room temp pizza
Speaker 5: was the best fucking thing I ate all day.
Speaker 4: It was even more memorable than when it was hot.
Speaker 5: What are other foods that are better at room temp
Speaker 5: after they've been left out than when they are fresh?
Speaker 4: Jeffrey, Oh, really.
Speaker 1: Quick, because I know, Dan, you've got some stuff locked
Speaker 1: and loaded. I got an idea or Jeffrey, I want
Speaker 1: to clarify something in this email, because what it sounds
Speaker 1: like is he had a sitter come over right to
Speaker 1: go out for the night. So the sitter is gonna
Speaker 1: watch the kids, so he ordered pizza for the kids
Speaker 1: in the sitter.
Speaker 3: Oh, positing that maybe you just got home.
Speaker 1: After a couple of drinky poos and anything you were
Speaker 1: gonna eat really good. No, and I'm growning on that this.
Speaker 2: Is a good pizza. I'm telling you I had.
Speaker 1: I had two Domino's pizzas this week, and I have
Speaker 1: two Dominos pizzas.
Speaker 3: I'm a thin crust.
Speaker 1: It's got a like the cardboard thin crust, and I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's cardboard cracker crust. Yeah, that's what I got.
Speaker 1: So it was judging. I'm just saying it was a
Speaker 1: six nine. You can as many things as you want
Speaker 1: for six ninety nine from this list. So I got
Speaker 1: the parmesan uh stuff crust with a bacon on one
Speaker 1: half pepperoni and the other half. And then for the
Speaker 1: other medium pizza, I got my thin crust barbecue with
Speaker 1: ranch tip. Thing.
Speaker 3: It sounds it all sounds delicious.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. Yeah, I don't fall you for it.
Speaker 3: But what's a yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, So to answer the question, what is something that
Speaker 1: tastes better room temp after it's cooled off on crustables? Okay,
Speaker 1: wait those already be now they come from the freezer,
Speaker 1: and then you'll leave them out for like forty five minutes.
Speaker 4: Right you don't pressure?
Speaker 2: Well, am I wrong? Then that they're better at room.
Speaker 1: He specifically says, so, what are other foods that are
Speaker 1: better at room temperature? Then they've then let at left
Speaker 1: out than when they are fresh, like hot Halo top,
Speaker 1: Halo top the ice cream. You just did the same
Speaker 1: thing with our heads when you said you had.
Speaker 2: A halo toper the Briars Delights or something.
Speaker 1: So I was gonna say ice cream when you pull
Speaker 1: ice cream out of the or like we'll eat out
Speaker 1: of like the things. Yeah, yeah, we'll lead out of
Speaker 1: the cartons, the tolenty also like even sorbet, when it
Speaker 1: melts a bit and it gets that little like puddle
Speaker 1: around the edges, then it gets better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ice cream was mine.
Speaker 2: You gotta be patient. You give it at least ten minutes.
Speaker 3: Or just breathe really hard on it.
Speaker 2: You mean microwave for like ten seconds to kind of
Speaker 2: kick started.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there's methods, there's there's ways. Yeah, there's there's
Speaker 1: be a few things too. I would actually say, like
Speaker 1: this is a sopranos thing I would say ZD. Like
Speaker 1: pasta involving cheese, I would say it's better once it's
Speaker 1: cooled off a bit and the cheese gets a bit
Speaker 1: chewier and kind of quag like.
Speaker 2: That's the thing with pizza too. It's super hot, let
Speaker 2: it sit for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what I mean to avoid burning, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just think the texture of like ZD or lasagna
Speaker 1: is better once the cheese is cooled off, because the
Speaker 1: cheese is incorporated into the actual dome much better.
Speaker 2: Mac and cheese is the same way. It'll be a
Speaker 2: little soup if you.
Speaker 4: Do it right away, say mac and cheese.
Speaker 5: I personally, when I make mac and cheese, I usually
Speaker 5: put it in the fridge or just leave it around.
Speaker 5: And just like pizza, I think mac and cheese is
Speaker 5: better the second eating. It's just had time to marinate
Speaker 5: a lot of pasta there adding its flavors.
Speaker 1: Yeah. To that point, I would actually say, this is
Speaker 1: not exactly the question. I would say most braised or
Speaker 1: like stewed food. I would say most stews are better
Speaker 1: once they've sat in the fridge overnight and the flavors
Speaker 1: incorporate way more.
Speaker 5: You usually want to reheat those. It's a bit someone,
Speaker 5: but like it's mac and cheese. I actually will eat
Speaker 5: cold from the fridge and it's fucking delicious.
Speaker 4: It's still good.
Speaker 2: But also mac and cheese just microwaved is very good. Still,
Speaker 2: like it's very reheatable. Like there's some stuff like French fries.
Speaker 2: You never want a microwave that sucks ass. The Airfriyer's
Speaker 2: the only way that makes it even decent. Even even
Speaker 2: that's kind of a pale imitation a pizza, Like I
Speaker 2: air fried so much that Domino's and it was like
Speaker 2: better the second time around. Taco Bell is extremely good
Speaker 2: air fried, Like oh yeah, but.
Speaker 4: Can you have Taco bell room tem and be like
Speaker 4: that is better than when it keep better.
Speaker 2: It's good, but it's it's not going to be better, no, okay.
Speaker 3: I have one that are better when they've cooled off
Speaker 3: than if they're hot.
Speaker 4: I think that's true too, and I think it's just
Speaker 4: because they're two hots.
Speaker 3: Chew in my dessert.
Speaker 5: I have definitely every time I like go to Buffalo
Speaker 5: Wild Wings or like any sports bra bra sports we
Speaker 5: actually we have a sports bar in uh in Portland
Speaker 5: called the sports Bra and it's a Women's Sports bar.
Speaker 4: Wow, it's very funn that.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I these Angels and Kaitlyn Clark
Speaker 1: face off.
Speaker 3: So you have you been seeing the ship, dude?
Speaker 4: I can't get enough of it.
Speaker 3: Every time the face off.
Speaker 1: Apparently it's like they break a new record, every viewership record,
Speaker 1: every time they play. They hate each other and it's
Speaker 1: the same team. No, Dan, this is like w W level,
Speaker 1: like like drama gets played up, Magic Johnson Larry Bird thing.
Speaker 5: If one of them like touches the other one, they're like,
Speaker 5: that's a foul each other and they and they and
Speaker 5: they push each other.
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, there's there's a clip look up like Kitlyn
Speaker 1: Clark Angel Reese the other day. Angel Reese is I
Speaker 1: want to say, like a foot and a half, if
Speaker 1: not even more taller than Kitlyn Clark. They're complete different positions,
Speaker 1: but they like they know each other from college ball,
Speaker 1: like so so oh Angel is that? Okay? I didn't
Speaker 1: know that.
Speaker 2: I recon the name because there's a McDonald's and I
Speaker 2: think there's an Angel Reconal and.
Speaker 3: They're blown up. They're getting sponsorships.
Speaker 2: You probably a ceial Okay, the Angel Rees Special and
Speaker 2: then Kaitlyn Clark I think I saw on SNL, so
Speaker 2: I think I'm familiar with her too.
Speaker 1: Angel Reese was LS she plays for the Sky, but yeah,
Speaker 1: she played for LSU.
Speaker 3: So, but yeah, Kaitlyn Clark just.
Speaker 1: Like comes in w n b A and all these
Speaker 1: all these athletes when she got there last year were like, hey, welcome.
Speaker 1: They're tossing her. I mean, she's really fucking good, but
Speaker 1: they're tossing her around, like, hey welcome. This is a
Speaker 1: much more physical league. So I think this like she's
Speaker 1: just I mean, were there only two games in or whatever,
Speaker 1: but first game of the season they played like these
Speaker 1: two rival players played and like Angel Reese caught a
Speaker 1: rebound and Caitlyn Clark like threw her and then she got.
Speaker 3: Up and start off.
Speaker 2: It's been it's been awesome, dramatic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what why did how the fuck are talking
Speaker 1: about this?
Speaker 2: Why did you bring this up?
Speaker 1: Mary? Uh? Yeah? I think, I mean, and then I just.
Speaker 2: Heard now do we get there?
Speaker 3: Taco Bell sponsorship?
Speaker 2: No, that was after how do we go from fast
Speaker 2: food and microwaving stuff to women's basketball?
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fucked I said, We'll roll
Speaker 1: back the tape. I'll figure it out on sports bra Ah,
Speaker 1: that's it. Oh they only play women's sports. Yes, sounds
Speaker 1: like they're probably busy these days anyway.
Speaker 5: So the sports bar where I go anytime I'm doing
Speaker 5: sports bars and I want to have food, I always order,
Speaker 5: always order fried pickles if they are in the form
Speaker 5: of discs, not spears. And fried pickles are straight up
Speaker 5: better if they've cooled off in a room temp.
Speaker 4: They just are.
Speaker 5: They're too fucking hot, their little lava bombs. You don't
Speaker 5: want any of that. You just have to wait until
Speaker 5: they're about like warm room temp. And that's when they're
Speaker 5: like their sweet spot, like a juicy lucy.
Speaker 4: Juicy Lucy's are that's so you don't.
Speaker 1: Melt your mouth though. That's I don't have the option
Speaker 1: of eating them hot. There's a place here that does, uh, Dana,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: you would have been, But there's a place does like
Speaker 1: fried zucchini alongside their fried pickles. I would.
Speaker 3: I would also argue to agree.
Speaker 1: With you Mary that fried pickles when they're super hot,
Speaker 1: the breading and the pickle separate way too easily and
Speaker 1: it becomes two separate things. They're more they're of a
Speaker 1: piece like that, you're gonna bite into it. It's going
Speaker 1: to continue to what what's funny?
Speaker 2: What did I say?
Speaker 1: Why you laugh?
Speaker 4: Of a piece?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're cohesive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're better in the trash can. Not
Speaker 1: a fan of pickles, I don't think so. I think
Speaker 1: I've had them, Mike once.
Speaker 4: Are so great.
Speaker 5: You are just like you are so off your game
Speaker 5: when you you talk about flavor and the things that
Speaker 5: are so valuable to you.
Speaker 4: Pickles are a secret flavor.
Speaker 3: They just are.
Speaker 2: There's no way that's true.
Speaker 5: It's like got salt and like some I love salt,
Speaker 5: pickley flavor, like the sour pickle flavor, chips.
Speaker 4: And crunch, it's got all good good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pickles are top tier snack. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: I think this comes back to Granted I never had pickles.
Speaker 2: But I think it ruined it for me in high
Speaker 2: school or junior high when I worked at funkal Land
Speaker 2: and my assistant manager, Tim would pay for my meal
Speaker 2: if I would drive to McDonald's and I would get
Speaker 2: him a number two, which is the two cheeseburger meal
Speaker 2: with extra pickles. So basically, if I go in there
Speaker 2: and picking it up, I'd get a free meal, but
Speaker 2: that man, my fucking car smelled like Tim's shitty pickles
Speaker 2: all the fucking time in the summer, and I was like,
Speaker 2: fuck pickles, I hate these, But I never had them
Speaker 2: leading up for that either.
Speaker 5: So I'm just saying I think spite is like very powerful,
Speaker 5: But I just I think you are missing out as
Speaker 5: someone who really likes I don't know, fast food and
Speaker 5: like like just really intense flavor profiles like pickles are
Speaker 5: where it's at.
Speaker 1: Man, Like I just's I just want meat and cheese
Speaker 1: and bread, like I just anything else, any condiments outside
Speaker 1: of barbecue sauce, which is delicious, is just going to
Speaker 1: distract from the things I love. Yeah, you can focus,
Speaker 1: you can enhance the things you love with like a
Speaker 1: hint of like a hint cues.
Speaker 2: I feel like it would be insulting to the meat
Speaker 2: and cheese of the quarter pounder if I was like,
Speaker 2: let's put some ketchup on there.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're giving enough credit to your mouth
Speaker 1: or your brain, Like I think they would both be
Speaker 1: fine with you adding a sligh.
Speaker 2: Mouth and brain are both great, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: They're not.
Speaker 4: I do you think he gives his brain a lot
Speaker 4: of credit? Maybe too much credit?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you could start putting more stuff in
Speaker 1: your mouth. You'd be fine.
Speaker 3: Try expand your horizons.
Speaker 1: But they would just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I feel like we could do it delicately, like a
Speaker 4: very like put some tiny pickle in there, Lacroix of pickle.
Speaker 2: If I put a pickle in a pickle in there,
Speaker 2: if I don't like, it's too risky, because if I
Speaker 2: don't like it, then I've ruined a good, perfectly good
Speaker 2: quarter pounders.
Speaker 3: Okay, so pay another dollar eighty whatever.
Speaker 2: I can't expend stuff anymore.
Speaker 1: Use our card, I'll grant, I'll give you can use
Speaker 1: all right, you can door to ash me a pickle
Speaker 1: meal for McDonald's. And two is I want to order
Speaker 1: like five burgers or whatever. You know, five quarter pounders
Speaker 1: and three of them are gonna have pickles. I mean
Speaker 1: it would be the scales would be tilted in your
Speaker 1: favor because you could tell which ones have pickles in them,
Speaker 1: so you'd like automatically say I don't like this one,
Speaker 1: but I want.
Speaker 2: To I've had five thousand quarter pounders in my life.
Speaker 2: Maybe three of them had barbecue sauce on it. None
Speaker 2: had pickles. You're not a fan of barbecue sauce?
Speaker 1: No, I like a lot.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm just saying that, Like, I don't like the
Speaker 2: barbie sauce. Fucking incredible. But you're a quarter pounder. It's
Speaker 2: a city, and you don't like barbecue sauce. You're in.
Speaker 1: I've had, so I'll chug barbecue sauce.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, dam doesn't like barbecue sauce.
Speaker 1: This is crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I don't want to distract from the meat,
Speaker 2: the cheese, the bread. The ratio of the quarter is pristine.
Speaker 2: It is perfect, and to put anything else on there
Speaker 2: would do it at a service.
Speaker 4: It enhances the cheese.
Speaker 2: How do you know that if you haven't tried it
Speaker 2: with common stuff? It's common sense?
Speaker 1: Okay, no, But to that end, did you ever have
Speaker 1: anything besides cheese, pizza, meat?
Speaker 2: I won't do like vegetables and stuff.
Speaker 1: Right, But you added stuff to the cheese and the
Speaker 1: sauce and the bread again, meat, cheese, bread. That's the combin.
Speaker 1: That's the triforce. Okay, which one's Gannendorf meat? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's an easy one. Which one's link.
Speaker 2: Uh cheese. Oh, I would have gone bread. I think
Speaker 2: Zeldous cheese.
Speaker 1: Bread and Zelda's cheese.
Speaker 2: Oh the blonde hair, well they're both con blonde. Yeah
Speaker 2: whatever because of the blonde hair.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, obviously Zelds cheese, cheese blonde.
Speaker 2: I can't see a blonde lady without thinking about cheese, Margot, Robbie,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about.
Speaker 4: Easy hair.
Speaker 2: Or you, Natalia, thank you, Jeffrey, Jeffrey, Uh?
Speaker 1: Dan? Can you read this one? From Nathan Hey?
Speaker 2: Fire Escape? What are Sometimes you've been surprised by games
Speaker 2: media's reaction to a game. I was told my friend
Speaker 2: a few years ago that I needed to play a
Speaker 2: plague Tail recre.
Speaker 1: I bened the game over a weekend. To be clear,
Speaker 1: that's not how he spelled it, That's just how Dan
Speaker 1: pronounced it.
Speaker 2: A Plaguetail recreem ivened the game over a reckroom for
Speaker 2: a dream. I bened the game over a weekend and
Speaker 2: nearly cried at the ending, loved every minute. I was
Speaker 2: surprised to find out most people in games media either
Speaker 2: got bored of it or didn't have any thoughts on
Speaker 2: it at all. Have you had any games that you
Speaker 2: loved or hated, only to find out reviews completely disagreed
Speaker 2: with your opinion.
Speaker 1: Nathan.
Speaker 6: Yes, the fucking Walking Dead game that sucks us. That
Speaker 6: everyone just fucking had some nationwide delusion, games of industry
Speaker 6: wide delusion that this is an.
Speaker 2: Important or good game in any way. It sucks so
Speaker 2: much shit. I said I wouldn't do this anymore after
Speaker 2: death dranting red redemption too, but enough times gone by
Speaker 2: and I still feel like Walking Dead sucks.
Speaker 1: Shit.
Speaker 3: The Telltale game, yes, well, there's like five.
Speaker 1: Well whatever, and one that everyone said was a game
Speaker 1: of the year and everyone's like, you're all losing your
Speaker 1: fucking minds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there sucks.
Speaker 1: There were reviews that are like this gives me the
Speaker 1: sense that everything's about the change, and like, shut up, no,
Speaker 1: I got you in it. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: For the record, I came away from.
Speaker 4: It being like, all right, too, I don't think it's godie,
Speaker 4: but I thought it was good.
Speaker 2: A lot of people said that's something.
Speaker 1: If it just came out and a bunch of like
Speaker 1: visual novel dorks liked it or whatever, I'd be like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a bunch of theater kids like, oh it
Speaker 1: made me cry.
Speaker 2: Whatever, that's fine, enjoy your shit. I but it's the
Speaker 2: fact that everyone around me was like, this is game
Speaker 2: of the year. It's like, you're all fucking this.
Speaker 1: Disney adults, theater kids blame for all the woes of
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 4: We hate Manat.
Speaker 2: I'm not now anybody.
Speaker 4: He's banned from the podcast.
Speaker 2: No, no, that's my co owner.
Speaker 1: Dan's lost his edge. Mary, me and you can go
Speaker 1: at theater kids and Disney adults all we want.
Speaker 2: No, no, they're very easy to make fun of.
Speaker 4: Yes, AND's too soft now he doesn't want to adult.
Speaker 2: I am an anti theater kid and anti Disney doll.
Speaker 2: Don't let that slip. But there guess why you're anti
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not anti every theater good friend with
Speaker 2: Alex Bone Yellow. He's the most theater kid motherfucker I've
Speaker 2: ever met.
Speaker 1: You're gonna latch onto him. And Dan puts meat on
Speaker 1: his pizza, Now, like, what is this? He's the Come on, Mary,
Speaker 1: let's me and you talk about this.
Speaker 4: I Manati don't care for him.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, the question Manadi.
Speaker 4: I know podcast I like Manative.
Speaker 2: Let's all just save his name for a little bit.
Speaker 1: Mikeni, Mike Manati, Manati, Mike Manati.
Speaker 2: He's so much he's just and chuckling to himself in it.
Speaker 1: In this he might be.
Speaker 3: MIMINAI.
Speaker 2: I hate to say. It is a fun name to say.
Speaker 1: It is a nice name.
Speaker 3: I enjoy the name a lot.
Speaker 4: Tolkoto confusing.
Speaker 2: Well, no, you see it's J. R. R. Tolkien and
Speaker 2: Shagaro Miamoto.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Minus everyone's going to.
Speaker 1: I hate that.
Speaker 5: When this game came out, everyone was like, this game
Speaker 5: is so incredible, It's so monumental, Like I cannot believe it.
Speaker 5: This is what uh we don't like the term walking
Speaker 5: sim that's not honest and indicative of like what these
Speaker 5: games are. But it's just like I just walked around
Speaker 5: and ghosts like whispered to me and nothing really interesting happened.
Speaker 1: Frit Function, you just didn't know.
Speaker 2: Look, And I'm not anti walking. So I love Gone Home.
Speaker 2: I love you a Finch.
Speaker 1: All there gonna be really great ones. Edith Finch is
Speaker 1: still my favorite. I think that was awesome. Yeah, but no,
Speaker 1: everybody's gone to the raptures. What are we doing here?
Speaker 4: I'm over it. I didn't care for that game, and
Speaker 4: it got really high reviews and I was not on board.
Speaker 1: And there are a few.
Speaker 2: There were some that I went the other way with
Speaker 2: where I thought, like, I fucking love this game.
Speaker 4: I got what it came out, Yeah, this would be
Speaker 4: positive ones.
Speaker 1: This is probably not aged well or not in like
Speaker 1: problematic way I reviewed Far Cry Primal.
Speaker 3: Remember that Stone.
Speaker 4: Age, I remember I like that game.
Speaker 1: I loved that game, I thought, and.
Speaker 3: It's not like my favorite fucking game.
Speaker 1: Ever, I don't think about it most times unless someone
Speaker 1: emails a question about games that we had a different
Speaker 1: reaction to. I just loved that, you know, like that
Speaker 1: series was already kind of flagging and getting a bit boring,
Speaker 1: and then they did this okay, Stone Age, and they
Speaker 1: resisted the urge to ever make you feel overpowered until
Speaker 1: pretty late in the game.
Speaker 2: I thought that was actually pretty rad, and like they
Speaker 2: had the whole night.
Speaker 1: Time thing where predators are coming out more like fucking
Speaker 1: Saber two tigers are more aggressive at night and trying
Speaker 1: to hunt you.
Speaker 3: All you have a spear and a sling.
Speaker 1: I had a tower, like at least people will say
Speaker 1: they're trying to keep this franchise life. And then people
Speaker 1: were like, no, this fucking sucks. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: you know tis their own. I'm gonna go fucking throw
Speaker 1: spears at fucking dinosaurs. There's no dinosaurs in the game.
Speaker 1: Oh fire a fire escape or a far Cry with
Speaker 1: dinosaurs would be fair? Would that's a pretty good idea?
Speaker 4: Would be fun?
Speaker 1: Is there one?
Speaker 4: I guess the actually mechanical and so you kind of
Speaker 4: have to like take them down in like a mechanical way.
Speaker 2: Wait, no, you're describing a boring game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a monster Hunter.
Speaker 4: Hands on the trolley.
Speaker 5: There was a game that came out that critically, people
Speaker 5: just ignored it or they didn't say it was very
Speaker 5: favorable that I love that not a lot of people
Speaker 5: know about.
Speaker 4: And it's trying three. Oh yeah, person trying three slaps.
Speaker 4: It is a three everybody talks about. You know what
Speaker 4: is it called? It takes two?
Speaker 5: And all these games you have to have two people
Speaker 5: Trying three is the fucking shit.
Speaker 4: It's three player puzzles and one.
Speaker 5: Person is a archer, and one person is really strong,
Speaker 5: and one person is a wizard who makes boxes and
Speaker 5: you need to.
Speaker 4: Use each other to solve all these puzzles.
Speaker 5: Three people puzzle solving is actually so much fun, and
Speaker 5: you can grief each other and you have to work
Speaker 5: together and collaborate to solve these puzzles. I cannot believe
Speaker 5: everyone slept on this game trying three rocks and everyone
Speaker 5: should play it being pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this question is tough for me because every strategy
Speaker 1: game I play that I love, I'm like, why, why
Speaker 1: why don't more people love these games. I routinely stand
Speaker 1: up in the middle of flights and just start shouting
Speaker 1: wilder myth. I really hot on that one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was my game of the year. Yeah twenty one,
Speaker 1: forget what that was.
Speaker 2: I feel like nobody saves the world.
Speaker 1: I was remember that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the people who played it. I just don't
Speaker 2: think that many people. It didn't really blow up. I
Speaker 2: also think Returnal, like it's a well liked game and
Speaker 2: it reviewed well, but like I was blown away by
Speaker 2: that game, and I feel like we gave it game
Speaker 2: of the year.
Speaker 4: You know, it did pretty good.
Speaker 1: It did pretty good.
Speaker 2: But like I will talk to people about it, and
Speaker 2: I feel like US three are higher on it than
Speaker 2: maybe the general consensus.
Speaker 5: I'm like obsessed with that game, but I do think
Speaker 5: I do think it was moderately favorable. I think like
Speaker 5: this is like people forgot about it or they just.
Speaker 4: Didn't give a shit about it, And.
Speaker 5: You're like, why didn't more people care about this game?
Speaker 5: Like why didn't more people talk about this game? They
Speaker 5: should have been talking about it.
Speaker 2: Yep Signalis, Yeah years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, old school kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Like, No, that's not the best because, like I guess
Speaker 1: it's literally going for that old school survival horror niche,
Speaker 1: which is just that it's kind of niche today.
Speaker 4: I see. I'm putting some of these in like Metacritic
Speaker 4: just to be like, does anybody talk about these?
Speaker 1: Nathan like a Plaguetail Requiem was surprising to me. I
Speaker 1: I wholeheartedly agree with him. That game is awesome. Uh,
Speaker 1: Plaguetail Innocence more people talked about I think that game
Speaker 1: came out and people are like, oh cool, this is
Speaker 1: that Last of Us third person over the shoulder stealth
Speaker 1: combat when you need to really frantic, you're also protecting
Speaker 1: this weaker character next to you. But also the level
Speaker 1: design is such that you know it's encouraging you to
Speaker 1: sneak by when you can, but then using the things
Speaker 1: in your environment to your disposal when you need to
Speaker 1: and then Plaque Out Requiem was in my mind actually
Speaker 1: better in a lot of ways. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: actually think looking back, I want to say it came
Speaker 1: out right before or right after another big game. And
Speaker 1: also it like Microsoft itself, it was a game Pass
Speaker 1: Day one game, and I don't know that Microsoft really
Speaker 1: promoted it all that much. It's a great game, it's
Speaker 1: also pretty creepy in some spots, like they did the
Speaker 1: Horror Well. I think both those games are really really
Speaker 1: good stealth games. I do wish more people talked about
Speaker 1: those still Wild baster Yeah you know what actually, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Wild Bastards. I saw some reviews come out, and I
Speaker 1: think this was more a case of the game is
Speaker 1: being divisive. I saw some people reviews saying like, this
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite shooters roguelikes since like Returnal Sure,
Speaker 1: and then other people are like, I this is not
Speaker 1: working for me. I don't get it, which again like
Speaker 1: it's not made for everybody. But I remember playing Wild Bastards.
Speaker 1: That was my game of the year last year. Old
Speaker 1: that game, like I was playing hours and hours like
Speaker 1: Big Chunks at a time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh I that was my favorite game last
Speaker 2: year and a lot of people didn't like it.
Speaker 1: That's a great one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of times sometimes people sleep on
Speaker 4: the good ones.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if there's anything I really disliked
Speaker 1: that a lot of people liked that, I'm like, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't get it.
Speaker 3: There probably is one.
Speaker 4: There's probably a lot.
Speaker 5: I think we could do like an entire episode dedicated
Speaker 5: towards like we disagree with the masses and you're wrong,
Speaker 5: And I think that would be pretty fun. I think
Speaker 5: there's like a lot of sleepers where I was like,
Speaker 5: I can't believe no one ever played this game, Like
Speaker 5: it's a bummer that like the world just didn't pay attention.
Speaker 4: And what was that game that I was like fucking
Speaker 4: raving about no one ever played it? Snackbird, Snickbird is
Speaker 4: so sick and everybody like nobody played it, nobody.
Speaker 5: Talks about it, Like I tried to sell this bird,
Speaker 5: Like this bird. I tried to sell this game like crazy.
Speaker 4: It's a fantastic puzzle game and it's got such a
Speaker 4: good gimmick, and I think to the people who did
Speaker 4: play it like it, but it's I don't think enough
Speaker 4: people really knew about it. And that was a bummer.
Speaker 4: The world was wrong.
Speaker 2: I bet hundreds of people played the game that wouldn't
Speaker 2: have normally because you were advocating for it.
Speaker 4: Thank you. I mean that actually does make me feel good.
Speaker 4: I would like to I would like more people to.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's like one of the good things that this
Speaker 4: podcast can do. But I hope like more people are
Speaker 4: able to like try these games. I think I feel
Speaker 4: that way about my streams too. Is I will play
Speaker 4: like some weird obscure your indie game that I feel
Speaker 4: like no one's talking about, and I'll be like, this
Speaker 4: game is so good, why is anyone talking about this?
Speaker 4: I beelly, we got to do that more.
Speaker 2: That's how I felt with like Delivered All Costs, where
Speaker 2: it's like not a lot of people talking about it,
Speaker 2: and I did a quick look for giant bombs, Like
Speaker 2: I just want to spread the word. This is a
Speaker 2: fun game. You know, it's not mean game of the year,
Speaker 2: It's not going to be getting in tens or anything,
Speaker 2: but like it's a fun time. People just play it.
Speaker 1: Hero We're all heroes. Yeah, I'm just looking at like
Speaker 1: different sites top fifties the last few years.
Speaker 5: I know it's fun to look through my Steam history
Speaker 5: when we get these questions too, because I enjoy looking
Speaker 5: at my Steam history and being like, oh shit, remember
Speaker 5: when I played Crawl, which was a four v one
Speaker 5: asymmetrical indie game before asymmetrical games were really a thing,
Speaker 5: such a good game, and people really didn't talk about
Speaker 5: it like I. I love talking about this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right, let's go on to
Speaker 2: the last question.
Speaker 1: Nathan, thank you. All right. This is a self indulgent
Speaker 1: one from Pete from Central Coast, Australia, High Fire Escapees.
Speaker 1: Congratulations to Mike becoming a somie. I really enjoyed hearing
Speaker 1: you give some unique wine pairings on an old episode
Speaker 1: and really enjoy the combination of sour patch kids with
Speaker 1: a crisp Chardonnaye. I was hoping you could help me
Speaker 1: with some pairings for some of the complete garbage I
Speaker 1: eat now that you're a certified saw me a hopefully
Speaker 1: without receiving a bill in the mail or without having
Speaker 1: the wine police kicking down your door to evoke you're
Speaker 1: selly at powers. All right, he did a few like
Speaker 1: I don't know it, clearly. I think it's going for
Speaker 1: like more low brow junk food, which I'm fully on
Speaker 1: board with.
Speaker 3: That's some of my favorite.
Speaker 2: All Right, cheese and sweet chili on toast.
Speaker 3: Is that an Australian thing? Sounds good, don't get.
Speaker 2: It really good.
Speaker 4: Sweet chili sauce is very Australian, although you usually put
Speaker 4: it on fries like sweet chili and sour cream.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cheese and sweet chili sauce on toast. I'm saying
Speaker 1: between the cheese, which is gonna be fatty, and the
Speaker 1: chili sauce, which I would imagine some sort of heat
Speaker 1: or spice, and if it doesn't, that's fine. Out go
Speaker 1: gome go boujela, go like more full bodied one like
Speaker 1: more gone or milanavant I. I would say more gone
Speaker 1: like cote to p from Jean Foyard. Can't go wrong,
Speaker 1: You know any of these words? Beef jerky, okay, so,
Speaker 1: cheese and sweet chili sauce. Look up more gone m
Speaker 1: R R G O N from beaujel a more gone
Speaker 1: beef jerky. Hmm.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of ways you can go with that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Cabernet franc from the Lais Valley go
Speaker 1: like a chinon c ch I N o n it's
Speaker 1: gonna have some good like deeper fruit notes, but it's
Speaker 1: also gonna have a bit of spice, a bit of like,
Speaker 1: uh like green notes to it.
Speaker 3: That'll go really well.
Speaker 1: String cheese and pickles, that's the first challenging one, because
Speaker 1: anything super acidic like pickles, which inherently are just pickled like,
Speaker 1: which means they're Yeah.
Speaker 3: I agree, string cheese though, that's fatty. And then you
Speaker 3: got pickles that.
Speaker 4: Are pairs really well with a cheeseburger.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 3: One of my cheat ones, and I would say go
Speaker 3: with a.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm gonna change that.
Speaker 1: Let's go. I'm gonna throw a curveball Central Otago pin
Speaker 1: noir from uh New Zealand.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I'm gonna it's it's I'm fucking
Speaker 1: feeling like a rebel today.
Speaker 2: My dad's yelling in this car right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Central Otago, What the hell is this kid thinking of?
Speaker 4: He should have picked up fair.
Speaker 1: Bosele is the easiest pairing for most foods, but uh yeah,
Speaker 1: string cheese and pickles. I think Central Otago, New Zealand
Speaker 1: is gonna gonna do you well. It's gonna be really fresh,
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be enough oak on it to help
Speaker 1: with that string cheese. Seaweed rice crackers dipped and ketch up.
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Uh? Seaweed rice crackers. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure that out. Are they predominantly seaweed or are they
Speaker 1: rice crackers of seaweed on them?
Speaker 4: I mean the seaweed snacks that I like, hell them
Speaker 4: and there's solocal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can just chomp down on, like, you know,
Speaker 2: twenty those and feel like.
Speaker 4: You have as many as you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Dipped in salty yeah, oh okay.
Speaker 1: Dipped in ketchup though? How about at Narrusso it's from
Speaker 1: the volcanic slopes in Sicily, I love it. Norello Mascalasa.
Speaker 1: Maybe a little capuccio in there, like a nice blend.
Speaker 4: Hey, you gotta get yourself a capuccio.
Speaker 3: Ketchup is going to be acidic.
Speaker 1: It's just straight up tomatoes and there's gonna be some
Speaker 1: vinegar involved as far as I know how ketchup is made.
Speaker 1: So you want something more acidic, So I would say
Speaker 1: Edna Bianca or sorry, Edna Russo's are going to steer
Speaker 1: your right.
Speaker 2: I would say it's a good thing. This is the
Speaker 2: last email of the show because everyone who's abandoning ship
Speaker 2: right now, you know they heard the most of the episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the most important pieces that they their politics, their
Speaker 4: political views, but they need to know about healthcare systems.
Speaker 1: Ball of chocolate cereal with our milk, Ball of chocolate
Speaker 1: cereal without milk, chocolate's tricky. I would actually say there's
Speaker 1: like two things I would recommend. I'm gonna say go
Speaker 1: with a go with like a young ruby port with
Speaker 1: that twenty bucks off the shelf, good port, no problem,
Speaker 1: all the Eastern chocolate and marshmallows. I'm gonna you know
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna say for that, you should go with
Speaker 1: a Pedro Jmenez sherry that would go well to chocolate.
Speaker 1: That would also balance out the sweetness and the marshmallows.
Speaker 1: You want something sweeter than the food. You're fine, there
Speaker 1: you go, Pete.
Speaker 2: Thanks Pete from Central Coast Australia. Can we reverse matrix
Speaker 2: mic and take all this knowledge out of his brain?
Speaker 4: That'll be fun and then send his award.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I'm glad you're following your dreams.
Speaker 1: It's funny too because the winebar I work at and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like it's it's not hard to figure
Speaker 1: out which one I'm at. But it's different now because
Speaker 1: like it's easy enough to say, oh, I'm streaming on
Speaker 1: twitch dot tv, slash and Maharty or whatever. It's a
Speaker 1: different thing for me to say I'm working at this
Speaker 1: physical brick and mortar place. If if you want to
Speaker 1: go look, you could figure it out. But I also
Speaker 1: don't want to just say here's where I am some days,
Speaker 1: come see me there.
Speaker 2: Make it a puzzle.
Speaker 1: It's not a puzzle. I just I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: doxing myself if I just say it. It's a place
Speaker 1: where we like you could come in with no wine knowledge,
Speaker 1: and like that's almost just as fun because then you
Speaker 1: don't have to be like the biggest wineficionado there. It's
Speaker 1: just a more laid back place. But I enjoy like
Speaker 1: when people are sort of into wine or sort of
Speaker 1: into just like beverages in general. Like we have a
Speaker 1: lot of cocktail people or like tiki fans come in
Speaker 1: and they say, like, oh, I like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I like tiki drinks. Where there's a lot of like
Speaker 1: I prefer more like rum heavy with like the nutty flavors.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, perfect, let's go something like oxidatum on
Speaker 1: the wine side. I don't say that to them, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, try I bring up three bottles. I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's try these, and they.
Speaker 3: Do it and they love it.
Speaker 4: And that's what you say, This goes great with pickles.
Speaker 1: No, I don't say that because there's no reason to.
Speaker 1: We don't have any pickles there. It's good, okay. I
Speaker 1: like the place you work.
Speaker 3: I jump up on the bar and then just start
Speaker 3: air humping it' say just right with.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: One seems pretty cool.
Speaker 1: There's a low pH when the vines are fucking getting
Speaker 1: through in the winter. God that hurt. Yeah, you guys,
Speaker 1: you two would like it. Yeah, it's despite the name
Speaker 1: what the name of the bar might suggest, it's not
Speaker 1: extremely high brow. It's definitely French oriented. But we also
Speaker 1: have like a Loha Fridays, wheverybody wears tropical shirts. We have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have turntables where we come in the winemakers like, okay,
Speaker 1: we give a record. The menu is a literal vinyl record,
Speaker 1: and there's a flight and a B flight and you
Speaker 1: order the A flights, two wines or the b flights
Speaker 1: the other two and then the winemakers walking around they
Speaker 1: get to pick the the playlist for the night. There
Speaker 1: was a guy from barber Esco in Northwest Italy last night.
Speaker 1: Half of his songs were like Empire of the Sun
Speaker 1: or Naked Face miss or read out Chili Peppers, like stuff,
Speaker 1: like relatable stuff. But then he also his other the
Speaker 1: other songs on the playlist were like folksy Italian cafe songs,
Speaker 1: and he would come up to us be like, do
Speaker 1: you speak Italian?
Speaker 3: Like not at all.
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, so this song is about a gorilla
Speaker 1: who's a virgin who breaks out of the zoo and
Speaker 1: just is roaming the streets looking for something to fuck.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, that doesn't seem like a good idea,
Speaker 1: But nobody there spoke Italian, so it was fine, Mary,
Speaker 1: how long until Mike is studying Italian?
Speaker 4: I mean he probably already is like secret.
Speaker 3: Enough to get by, enough to get by.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he'll announce it when he's like good enough
Speaker 5: where he feels like he can show.
Speaker 1: It off and like.
Speaker 2: Italian on this podcast. Yeah yeah, no, of course not.
Speaker 1: Why do you see him getting there?
Speaker 2: On the volcanic slopes of this dear mother mountain that
Speaker 2: erupts once every fifty years. Oh, he's brought up mountain
Speaker 2: like this is for you, you know a mountain. No,
Speaker 2: you brought up a mountain. But that Darby Ellen guy
Speaker 2: you liked, the crazy wrestler. Yes, the skateboards he just
Speaker 2: climbed Mount Everest to the summer he was doing. He
Speaker 2: set againness record. He brought a skateboard on the Mount
Speaker 2: Everest and did the world's tallest kickflip. That guy holy
Speaker 2: ship with a psycho.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ship he was doing those matches was Yeah,
Speaker 1: is insane, high flying Shenanigan's left and right. He's descending
Speaker 1: Everest right now, he's Oh he's on He's still on
Speaker 1: the mountain right now as we speak. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, he's summited like two days ago. Yeah, that's the most.
Speaker 4: Likely time to die is when you're descending.
Speaker 1: That's what I've heard. Is it really?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not on the way, is it?
Speaker 2: Like you're you're exhausted and everything.
Speaker 5: Because because you fight so fucking hard to make sure
Speaker 5: you get up there, you don't think about whether or
Speaker 5: not you have enough oxygen or energy to get back down.
Speaker 4: And so people get to the top and then they
Speaker 4: fucking don't make it.
Speaker 1: We should do that.
Speaker 2: We should do like a Patreon thing, we climb Mount Everest.
Speaker 4: Climbing Everest is like a crazy book. People die all
Speaker 4: the time watching.
Speaker 2: New Tier every Yeah, okay, okay, Tier, the Everest's.
Speaker 1: Big Yeah, see me, see me climb the Himalaya's tallest
Speaker 1: mountain fully fucking tour?
Speaker 2: Could someone do it?
Speaker 1: Fully naked? Climb over?
Speaker 2: I don't think the best mountain climber in the world,
Speaker 2: Edmund Hillary couldn't do it.
Speaker 5: Think of the articles tallest fucking mountain with the fattest
Speaker 5: fucking ass.
Speaker 4: You've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Could you do it? It's possible, right, it's cake and
Speaker 2: it's higher than anybody else.
Speaker 5: You have so much oxygen going into your system, but
Speaker 5: your cheeks are just out to the sky.
Speaker 3: Huge ass butt plug.
Speaker 1: Frostbite asshole. Yeah, I don't want to frostbite asshole.
Speaker 3: It's a Jfksey.
Speaker 1: He's like, when was it Hillary?
Speaker 3: No, it was like I thought it was a Edmund.
Speaker 2: Hillary is the guy whose gimmick was Clenn Everest, and
Speaker 2: then Hilary Clinton was named after him.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: When asked why he wanted to climb Mount everest edmon.
Speaker 3: Hillary said, because.
Speaker 1: It is there, Well, I'm gonna climb it, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be naked and my ass is gonna be there.
Speaker 2: JFK died.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3: They kept the he kept a BP in too long.
Speaker 1: It's still it's still tumbling down the mountain as we speak,
Speaker 1: apparently legend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tibet is. Here's the clanging every night.
Speaker 1: JFK.
Speaker 4: JFK's butt pluck and.
Speaker 3: I a voice cried out on the height Excelsior.
Speaker 2: This is stupid.
Speaker 1: It was not to shoot us from that grassy knoll.
Speaker 1: It was a defective butt plug that did me in. Wait,
Speaker 1: his ghost is talking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's dead, but he's speaking to us from the
Speaker 2: afterlife and telling us about the butt plugs. That we
Speaker 2: were barking up the wrong tree the whole time thinking
Speaker 2: about Oswald and the Freemasons. Right, it's the butt plugs.
Speaker 3: I've had enough of these mysteries.
Speaker 1: It was Jackie with a butt plug in the Oval office.
Speaker 1: She was in the car with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she put it in before she grabbed his brain.
Speaker 4: Jesus.
Speaker 1: Tactical tactical gaps in off front lines are not the
Speaker 1: only things being plugged in the situation room, my fellow Americans,
Speaker 1: is that it all a decent JFK or No.
Speaker 2: It's fine. I mean I think by nature view being
Speaker 2: from that general part of the world, I think you've
Speaker 2: got a heads up.
Speaker 1: It's the same general part Cape Cod is not. I
Speaker 1: wish I wish I was from Syracuse and Cape Cod.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's I said, general part of the
Speaker 1: world and country.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Like people are from the northeast, they would
Speaker 2: see New York and Cape God being near each other
Speaker 2: general there.
Speaker 1: Are five listeners from either Cape Cod or Syracuse are
Speaker 1: gonna hear you have something to say.
Speaker 3: But I get what you're saying. It's the same corner.
Speaker 2: You can say. Portland and Seattle are in the same
Speaker 2: general area, even though they're totally different cities. You know, sure, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah.
Speaker 2: So you gotta you gotta lay up on the Kennedy impersonation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, plus all your block butt plugs, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we bog Yeah. Got a presidential collection, like even
Speaker 2: scaled mountain with one.
Speaker 4: United States flag.
Speaker 2: This is a cabin in the White House. No one's
Speaker 2: open for sixty years. It's just filled with JFK's butt plugs.
Speaker 4: Ever time I hear the anthem my butt squeezes that dude.
Speaker 1: That dude gives speeches and like makes war plans and
Speaker 1: leads the free world or lead with butt plugs in.
Speaker 1: All I do is record each and every episode of
Speaker 1: fire Escape with a butt plug in, right, Yeah, so different.
Speaker 2: It's a tribute.
Speaker 1: Yeah anyway, thank you Pete from Central Coast, Australia.
Speaker 2: Well, bonus discussion for people who made it through the
Speaker 2: wine talk.
Speaker 4: Ah, we a little extra for you.
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Speaker 3: Oh, Mary's so good at this.
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Speaker 2: That's why we haven't sold an imerched in like six months.
Speaker 3: No, I'm joking.
Speaker 2: I see people with those thongs left and right.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 5: Someone came up to me during the Giant Bomb podcast
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Speaker 3: I I'll re up some.
Speaker 1: Uh, it'd be funny if it just goes to Jake Decker,
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Speaker 2: I hate that you fucking made me watch it in
Speaker 2: your basement. Damn oh waiting at Doctor Ryan did Doctor right.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that movie.
Speaker 1: I don't know shit about that awful and I was
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Speaker 3: Marry, what about you?
Speaker 4: Twitch on Mondays?
Speaker 5: I usually stream on Mondays and Instagram for updates about
Speaker 5: my dog.
Speaker 4: He is important.
Speaker 1: They're good updates.
Speaker 2: Oh God, how's Boss as Boss is great? I got
Speaker 2: my Risks slashed up. I don't know if I had
Speaker 2: that last time we recorded. But don't pick up a
Speaker 2: cat when they don't want to be picked up. And
Speaker 2: then it's true, But.
Speaker 1: That was early on where he was very much just
Speaker 1: like very scared, like this is a new place, there's dogs.
Speaker 2: What the fuck is this?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And he is fully in full ham cat like just
Speaker 2: just draping himself over things, just like sitting in laps
Speaker 2: and purring for like tim and sleeping and they're like,
Speaker 2: we sleep in a bed with two dogs and a
Speaker 2: cat now and the dogs are used to Boss now.
Speaker 2: Boss is just a total hand the sweetest cat.
Speaker 1: So great.
Speaker 2: Oh and also we were watching Borne Supremacy last night
Speaker 2: and it was Boss's first time was surround sound, and
Speaker 2: so Boss was just like sitting on the table in
Speaker 2: front of the couch and just every time there's a
Speaker 2: bullet or a helicopter going bi, what the fuck, what
Speaker 2: the like the whole born supremacy. This cat is like
Speaker 2: looking at the screen very like, what the fuck was that?
Speaker 2: It's very funny watching this.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're hilarious. It's funny.
Speaker 1: They're so much more aware than dogs in certain ways,
Speaker 1: like smarter in.
Speaker 2: A lot of ways, but also idiots.
Speaker 3: Not all the ways.
Speaker 1: Like dogs are also much more like much more smarter,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, much smart smarter. Uh yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: the ways in which they're smart is very entertaining, like
Speaker 1: endlessly it's just stuff.
Speaker 2: It's like somebody like there will be a noise outside
Speaker 2: and Razor and Gizmo will just be losing their minds
Speaker 2: sprinting around circles barking and like Boss won't even like
Speaker 2: raise his handles.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Some sound whogars, you know, very different.
Speaker 5: Dogs are such ding dongs, but they're like so excited
Speaker 5: when you come back home, and cats are like I
Speaker 5: couldn't care less.
Speaker 4: And they're hungry.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's the thing where it's like, yeah, you gotta
Speaker 2: get used to like, you know, I'm very used to dogs,
Speaker 2: like oh my god, your home wagon tail and like
Speaker 2: and casu and whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're the cat to boss. Yeah, you're the dog
Speaker 3: to boss.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, yeah, but loving it. That's she's curled up
Speaker 1: right now in her bed.
Speaker 4: Well, thanks for listening and hanging out with us again.
Speaker 4: We'll have really good updates and keep well, we'll be
Speaker 4: back here. And what two more weeks? Were ready to go? Well,
Speaker 4: I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I got some games, hopefully all of us. But we
Speaker 1: got a bit more travel coming up, so we'll.
Speaker 2: We'll trying to make it best.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sure, we will have an episode up every two weeks,
Speaker 2: so yeah, promise.
Speaker 3: You've never missed one since we started.
Speaker 5: We're all killed, Mike Manatti, Mike Natty, that's my promise
Speaker 5: to you.
Speaker 4: Mike naughty, Mike naughty, Mike Manatti, Mi Mike Natty.
Speaker 1: Two weeks by t h h h h yah