Speaker 1: What up, don't welcome to whatever it's Live sports dot Com.
Speaker 1: I'm easy to my spin mo Rax. You know Chris
Speaker 1: Skywalker smashing like button. Be a friend to the front
Speaker 1: and share the stream. Talking lots of Detroit piston. There's
Speaker 1: little Detroit Lions here, however you guys like to do it.
Speaker 1: I was talking to back. It's kind of crazy, but
Speaker 1: Booner actually talking about this. It's like, right now, the
Speaker 1: piss is a hard than Detroit Lions. That's rarely ever
Speaker 1: the case in this town. At least it's networked.
Speaker 2: Specifically today we gather here.
Speaker 1: Two more in a fault and comrade he loves to
Speaker 1: send him.
Speaker 2: Joey Korra is no longer a Detroit Tiger.
Speaker 1: A J.
Speaker 2: Hinches relieve Joey Korra of his third base duties, and
Speaker 2: he will no longer be sending Tigers home when they
Speaker 2: are just getting the second base and the balls already
Speaker 2: on the infield. We will miss his arm movements and
Speaker 2: just his overall gusto at the third base coach position.
Speaker 2: Joey Quorra was an icon for the Detroit Tigers. He
Speaker 2: cost us a lot of.
Speaker 1: Runs this year, but his overall aura will be missed.
Speaker 1: Joey Orra Joey Orra the windmill us peace. We hardly
Speaker 1: knew how you feeling with that one.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you had to do it. The guy
Speaker 2: just had some of the most egregious sins I've ever
Speaker 2: seen in my life this year. Like, I like being aggressive,
Speaker 2: but if you got like Colt Keith barely rounding second
Speaker 2: in the outfielder's got the ball in his hand, he's
Speaker 2: not the fastest guy, Like, maybe maybe let him stay
Speaker 2: up at third base. So yeah, I mean it was
Speaker 2: They said it was no off the field issues. It
Speaker 2: was just a difference in baseball philosophy, Like, oh, no worry,
Speaker 2: we know those issues were strictly on the field. H
Speaker 2: So yeah, Like, I like my third base coach to
Speaker 2: be aggressive, but he was a little too.
Speaker 1: Aggressive to be honest too, I liked my third base
Speaker 1: coast not to be old as shit. Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: them to be able to have some some clear vision
Speaker 1: out there. Not sixty plus how old? Joy I think
Speaker 1: he's an old guy. I know he's old. He's like sixties.
Speaker 1: No respect to anyone that's late fifties at least, But
Speaker 1: you guys, know your eyes aren't the same. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I want to make a seawell holding
Speaker 1: it down.
Speaker 2: Just just me, no, it's fair, and yeah, like it was,
Speaker 2: it was time to it was time to do that one.
Speaker 2: And Joey Korra is not the reason that the Detroit
Speaker 2: Tigers are bad this year, but he has cost us
Speaker 2: some outs at the plate, and it the past couple
Speaker 2: of years it was, you know, you would swallow it
Speaker 2: pause because the team was much better and they were
Speaker 2: winning games. But in a season like this year, every
Speaker 2: run counts, so you cannot allow the throwouts at.
Speaker 1: The plate to happen. WED three one three. I know
Speaker 1: your troll now, man, You've been clearly identified. So let's
Speaker 1: go deroz and let's get Katie light for free prison.
Speaker 1: I'm calling the police on you. I'm literally Gonnam calling
Speaker 1: the police, right the fuck?
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Braylan wants some want some DeRozan.
Speaker 1: I just I can't. I can't give it that. I
Speaker 1: can't get you with this ship.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this because I don't want to
Speaker 3: talk about basketball, no kidding, but baseball.
Speaker 4: On the subject of baseball, is this.
Speaker 3: Firing the start of another historic Tigers turnaround?
Speaker 1: Is this the catalyst. It could be you never know.
Speaker 2: You never know what's something like dude like this can
Speaker 2: do to shake up a locker room team might be
Speaker 2: back Gritty Tigs. I mean, they had the best e
Speaker 2: R in baseball in June. They had the best winning
Speaker 2: percentage in baseball in the American League. So you put
Speaker 2: together are of July like your June was, and you'll
Speaker 2: be right in the heat of of of playoff contention.
Speaker 2: So obviously it's tough to ask to go back to
Speaker 2: back like months like that. But the boys are feeling good.
Speaker 1: So fucking Katie like I still can't even.
Speaker 2: And other in good news, Jackson job is scheduled to
Speaker 2: start his rehab assignment on Tuesday. I did see that,
Speaker 2: so that's very good news. You know, the best pitching
Speaker 2: prospect in baseball of a year ago, uh is looking
Speaker 2: to get back on track. And we know that, you know,
Speaker 2: Tommy Johns is pitch posh posh these days, so yeah,
Speaker 2: he should be. Uh yeah, pretty much every every big
Speaker 2: league pitcher has to have it at some point, So
Speaker 2: it's I don't want to say it's good, but you
Speaker 2: like to get it out of the way early. So hopefully,
Speaker 2: like Pop, your Cherry, Yeah, exactly, just like so hopefully, hopefully,
Speaker 2: hopefully job will be good to go here pretty soon
Speaker 2: and we can, uh we can get him in that rotation.
Speaker 1: News for Detroit, I don't know where I mean, where
Speaker 1: are you at with them in the season.
Speaker 2: You kind of out, Like I said, if they put
Speaker 2: together a July like their June, they will be right
Speaker 2: in the heat of of or a playoff spot in August.
Speaker 2: So you just got to go out there and you've
Speaker 2: got to continue to try to to win games at
Speaker 2: the same rate or a better rate than you did
Speaker 2: in June. And uh, they're they're pitching staff outside of
Speaker 2: fron Rivaldez has been fantastic. So just got to keep
Speaker 2: that rolling.
Speaker 1: Your big money acquisition, your school replacement summer.
Speaker 2: Yea calling it not great.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing is, like, I'm not gonna tell you
Speaker 1: the outright the Tiger's gonna make the playoffs, but I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna tell you to quit rooting for it, not
Speaker 1: be happy when they win a fucking game, because in baseball,
Speaker 1: we've seen this team specifically go from the bottom to
Speaker 1: the top at listen to the playoffs, I should say,
Speaker 1: and then from the top to squeak it in for
Speaker 1: the fucking playoffs. I don't think it's fair to count
Speaker 1: them out. No, it's never over until you know. Especially,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say something crazy, but I didn't.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say I was gonna pick somebody and
Speaker 1: say it's not over until his mom sings.
Speaker 2: But but I didn't. I didn't even have anybody in mind.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna give somebody a random straight.
Speaker 1: Was someone Chris, you know who you are. If you're listening,
Speaker 1: it's crazy fat. That would be hilarious. The skinniest person
Speaker 1: shout off, Christy. I'll never do that. Chris is mouth.
Speaker 2: She's homieue. You suck Chris, But uh love what?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I love your mom. I saw Chris's mom treating
Speaker 1: Chris like Chris. I just knew, Like I didn't feel
Speaker 1: bad anymore. It's just a bottle man.
Speaker 4: I love what she drinks. Is she like the nicest lady?
Speaker 1: If you guys don't know what we're talking about, there's
Speaker 1: a video on Instagram of Chris hooping in the middle
Speaker 1: of the street Chris's mom from the porches.
Speaker 2: Chris, you sung, yeah it's good stuff. She's an ally.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I mean the Tigers. It's not dead,
Speaker 2: like it's a long cheesy for I said, man, you
Speaker 2: just gotta put together a good July and then you
Speaker 2: could be then you could be right back in it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I had, I mean, I had Father's Day
Speaker 1: as my marker on the season pasted and they're you know,
Speaker 1: ten under. But again, it's baseball. I'm not gonna listen.
Speaker 1: I love Neil, I love Sean, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: like they boy guys for being excited when the Ticker's
Speaker 1: winning damn game they do. Yeah, dude, they should, Yeah
Speaker 1: they do. Like what are we doings? It's fucking baseball,
Speaker 1: And I don't want to I don't want to do it.
Speaker 1: I'm not even well versed enough to go to in
Speaker 1: the baseball battle with Neil. But you're the same guy
Speaker 1: called us to win the division just last year.
Speaker 5: He did.
Speaker 2: You wrapped it up? He did. I told him not
Speaker 2: to see he didn't listen to his canary and it
Speaker 2: was the worst collapse in the history of Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1: You should be canary for Halloween.
Speaker 2: I should be a canary for Halloween. Just show up
Speaker 2: on beating, get drunk and yellow.
Speaker 1: Ye walking, watch your Ship Skot Walker your baseball guy,
Speaker 1: aren't you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: You South said, man, it's hard to talk about the
Speaker 6: Tigers right now. I hope that they can keep this
Speaker 6: up for July, but realistically, I don't know. It's hard
Speaker 6: to It's hard gonna be hard to play how they
Speaker 6: did in the month of June for a whole other month.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't want to get my hopes up high
Speaker 6: for them to have a couple of bad games or
Speaker 6: go on another losing streak or something like that. But
Speaker 6: I mean, they're not out of contention right now. So
Speaker 6: this next this next month is gonna be telling for sure.
Speaker 1: How many are they out from the wild Card right now?
Speaker 1: Does anybody know off the top of their head? Six?
Speaker 2: I think six and a half or five and a half.
Speaker 2: It's not like an insurmountable two series. But there are
Speaker 2: like eight teams. Yeah, I did see that, And that's
Speaker 2: like some of these teams are gonna fall off. It's
Speaker 2: gonna happen. Some of these teams are gonna.
Speaker 1: Sell Kjo Bay, we fell off. It's all cast. By
Speaker 1: the way, I ain't going on this microphone for you guys,
Speaker 1: says we fell off. Ever since Neil did that, and
Speaker 1: he's pretending like he never jinks him. Yeah, he also
Speaker 1: jinks to Detroy Lions before they played the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2: I mean, we know, like Neil can act like he
Speaker 2: didn't chink him. But you know, if you watched BDE,
Speaker 2: it was like a week long where I was like, Neil,
Speaker 2: just say it's not over, because it's not.
Speaker 6: Everybody spam his dms, get his email.
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Speaker 1: They look like a different team, a little more swagger,
Speaker 1: says missus Slaughter.
Speaker 2: They have been playing much better. The bats are perking
Speaker 2: up a little bit. You're getting some power back. Riley
Speaker 2: continues to be, you know, one of the best outfielders
Speaker 2: in the American League, like he has been the past
Speaker 2: couple of years. You've got Magoo as a first time
Speaker 2: All Star in his rookie season. Dylan Dingler very deserving,
Speaker 2: one of, if not the best catcher in the American League,
Speaker 2: Star and Uh yeah, So you've got bats that are
Speaker 2: waking up. You're getting healthier when it comes to pitching.
Speaker 2: So I mean, who's to say they can't go on
Speaker 2: another big run in July and end the month two
Speaker 2: games back of a wild card.
Speaker 1: It's very, very possible, Neil and Seawn hard to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean I know k Neel and Seawan
Speaker 2: mean well, but like you said, easy if we hadn't
Speaker 2: seen this exact thing happen one way or another in
Speaker 2: the past two seasons with this same team, and then
Speaker 2: you can say something. But you can't say it's over because.
Speaker 1: It's not sound Kai. I guess Neil's jinks as bad
Speaker 1: as trump jinks. I don't know about that, but I
Speaker 1: will say Belgian after they hit that the final goal,
Speaker 1: you see him hitting the Donnie Trump. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: They really, that's fucking awesome. I'm not gonna that's a
Speaker 1: great troll job. That's a great troll job. I mean,
Speaker 1: kudos to them, hats off. That's the whole I don't
Speaker 1: understand why they're be in such pussies about flow playing.
Speaker 1: To begin with, you would clearly have a better team
Speaker 1: we played them. I don't know if you this week
Speaker 1: we played them in like a warm up matchup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: played Paraguay too. It was a perfect way. They'd line
Speaker 1: these teams up and they whooped the funk out of us.
Speaker 1: So I don't know why they're acting like such bitches
Speaker 1: from one guy. That guy was really good by the way,
Speaker 1: watching the last night, he probably the better, maybe the
Speaker 1: best guy on our team was watching him like he
Speaker 1: skillfully with the ball and choked big. Yeah, that guy
Speaker 1: is fucking I mean, ship, how old is he? Holistic?
Speaker 1: He's older, but I just went from the chat that
Speaker 1: our goalie was an MLS goalie and he's maybe he kicked.
Speaker 5: The fucking ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the whole reason they.
Speaker 2: Scored all the goal. Well, yeah, like MLS goalie, I
Speaker 2: mean that's good, but you want the goalie team to
Speaker 2: be playing, to be fair.
Speaker 3: I felt like other than that, I mean, he was
Speaker 3: doing what he could, like they were just getting a
Speaker 3: lot more shots on goal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was pretty regiously stupid. Yeah, like that
Speaker 2: that was bad.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's only so much you can do
Speaker 2: when thirteen's getting his ass beat the whole game.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucked. It's suck to see him go out
Speaker 2: like that. It was fun for like twenty seconds when
Speaker 2: he was tied one one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was scoring for those forty seconds.
Speaker 4: That show was, I know, we't forget it.
Speaker 3: I was still celebrating the first goal and then they
Speaker 3: and then they took the lead.
Speaker 1: Was what the fuck is that they got pissed off?
Speaker 7: Fuck?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you about to say something.
Speaker 6: Who's the what's the name of the guy with the man?
Speaker 6: But I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Oh, thirteen thirteen it was that thirteen ye yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he was getting bodied.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was getting that.
Speaker 2: He literally gave up two off the whole entire game.
Speaker 1: Kjo bay Policy was just doing his best playoff during impression.
Speaker 2: He was for sure. Did you see the thumbnail. It's
Speaker 2: fair I put policitic on there with Dura Deer and
Speaker 2: Fox and Kenda little part. I mean, fair Man was gassing.
Speaker 2: I grew clearly. I mean, he's supposed to be your guy.
Speaker 2: And obviously if that's your guy, that's why you don't
Speaker 2: make it past around of sixteen.
Speaker 1: Uh b C Michigan three and three. I think guys
Speaker 1: need to rally for an egg plant The Chat Morning.
Speaker 2: Show, Oh, eggplant bomb, The Morning Show.
Speaker 8: Chat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do you want a egg plane? When something?
Speaker 1: I want something to confuse them. Yeah, they want like
Speaker 1: a word or like a letter that just make like
Speaker 1: like what the like? They don't know what the fuck's
Speaker 1: going on? Ye, and they're old too, so they lost time.
Speaker 3: It would have been amazing during the massage, Seou.
Speaker 1: I mean neilis John's I guess Neils have kids in
Speaker 1: high school. Yeah, might help him out with that one.
Speaker 1: Notte it on the sticks? Yeah? What should we hit
Speaker 1: him with the chat bomb their chat with I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll think of something, Okay, we'll think of something. I
Speaker 2: did see Tanage thirteen sixty seven in there, say, would
Speaker 2: y'all just stop talking about Ka d As if he's
Speaker 2: coming here to Detroit? Tragic Langdon is not going to
Speaker 2: do a damn thing of substance during the off season.
Speaker 2: Same as the trade deadline. We're gonna get into that, Chris.
Speaker 2: I want you to put a poll in the chat
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Speaker 1: he's doing from Morax You on Chris Skywalker in the building,
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Speaker 1: stream seventy on Trajion. It should it should be, just
Speaker 1: there hasn't been. You could look at the deadline. That
Speaker 1: was a mistake, sure, but I ask you this, and
Speaker 1: then for the people that voted, know what what player
Speaker 1: was moved to deadline? They would have helped the Detroit
Speaker 1: Pistons like a realistic move to deadline. Luke Io Desumu,
Speaker 1: I'd say those are the.
Speaker 4: Two biggest ones, Kobe White.
Speaker 1: Kobe White as well, they'd be talking one more round
Speaker 1: of the playoffs probably.
Speaker 2: I think they would help you. I don't know if
Speaker 2: they would have made the difference to beat the Cavs,
Speaker 2: but I think you would have been much better in
Speaker 2: that series have another shot maker like that.
Speaker 3: So just to be good that you guys were good
Speaker 3: with because there was a big name moved in Taron
Speaker 3: Jackson Junior. You guys are that I want you guys
Speaker 3: are good with without that, and you you would have
Speaker 3: been fine with him making a smaller.
Speaker 2: No, looking back at it, now, got it. The reason
Speaker 2: we were told they weren't in on Jaron Jackson Junior
Speaker 2: was because they were good with Tobias. Well, Tobias isn't
Speaker 2: on this team anymore. So I think if you could
Speaker 2: have and you should have upgraded that force spot to
Speaker 2: bring in a guy that is a stretch for defensive
Speaker 2: player of the year. Yeah, I think you should have
Speaker 2: done that because right now, if you had Jaron Jackson
Speaker 2: Junior on this team and you added Isaiah Joe, then
Speaker 2: that looks a lot better than those ancillary pieces. Look
Speaker 2: a lot better, and you're not in this desperate need
Speaker 2: of another talented player because although you might not see
Speaker 2: Jaron Jackson as a true number two, he would be
Speaker 2: your second best player if you had him right now,
Speaker 2: at the very least your third best player if you
Speaker 2: had him right now. If you want to argue with
Speaker 2: stars better than him, whatever, But yeah, no, I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: you should have been in on Jaron Jackson.
Speaker 1: But again, Jared Jackson Junior has an answer.
Speaker 2: That Hinesight's twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: First round picks. I had no problem to party with
Speaker 1: three first rounds.
Speaker 3: So to you guys, there's just to just to be clear,
Speaker 3: there's a gap between Jaron Jackson Junior and Trey Murphy
Speaker 3: because that's about the asking price for t I think.
Speaker 2: They're pretty similar prospects, pretty similar to players and I
Speaker 2: see them in the same elk, like questionable as the
Speaker 2: number two option, but a no doubt improvement to anything
Speaker 2: that you had, Right, Will, I would say Jaron Jackson
Speaker 2: Junior and Trey Murphy would move me in similar ways.
Speaker 3: So I'm just looking it up now. So Jared Jackson
Speaker 3: Junior's contract that year was the start of his four
Speaker 3: year contract starting at forty nine million ending at fifty
Speaker 3: three million, so much more than Trey Murphy. Almost double that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: just for context.
Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, I mean different positions though, too right, And
Speaker 1: that's why floor guard multiple positions, not that trade can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jerons did it right. Jaron's wonned Defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year, So it's like I would value Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's worth the double the money.
Speaker 2: And I think that's why Trey Murphy would go for
Speaker 2: more than Jared Jackson in the market is because of
Speaker 2: the contract. Like that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 3: For So where I'm at with it is that the
Speaker 3: Jared Jackson Junior trade, I still feel like, look, I
Speaker 3: like I wouldn't have been like extremely upset with it.
Speaker 3: I just would have felt like that was a risky
Speaker 3: move just because I don't feel like he's a true
Speaker 3: number two and at his price tag, it's just that's
Speaker 3: a lot. I understand Trajan not making a move like
Speaker 3: that at the deadline, right because before the Tobias thing,
Speaker 3: like you said before he said that, what did he
Speaker 3: say all year? He wants to test the young guys.
Speaker 3: He wants to see what they're like. So I get
Speaker 3: not making a big swing. I get that totally. You know,
Speaker 3: we can look back and say maybe it was a
Speaker 3: mistake not getting Jared Jackson Junior. But I do understand
Speaker 3: him not pursuing a big swing at the trade that line.
Speaker 3: But however, to me, it was no excuse to go
Speaker 3: get an Io Desumo, a Kobe White, Alu Canard like
Speaker 3: those are the type of moves that, to me, were
Speaker 3: inexcusable for him not to do. That was where I'm
Speaker 3: frustrated with because what does a role player do but
Speaker 3: amplify your core. So you really want to find out
Speaker 3: what this is, You get role players around it, so
Speaker 3: you see the vision, you know, like what do you
Speaker 3: want to just see a bunch of non shooters out
Speaker 3: there and everything look clanky and see what they do? Like,
Speaker 3: I guess you learned something from that but I feel
Speaker 3: like you also would have learned something from having Luke
Speaker 3: Canard there, or Kobe White or Io Desumo, who dropped
Speaker 3: forty three fucking points in the playoffs in a game
Speaker 3: like I just feel what happened. That is the thing
Speaker 3: that to me, you can point to being upset with
Speaker 3: Trajan fast forwarding to now, though I can't be upset
Speaker 3: what he has made every single call possible and he
Speaker 3: is trying to make a swing and people are either
Speaker 3: not wanting to play ball with him or there's a
Speaker 3: grand conspiracy or whatever. But there's the fact that he
Speaker 3: is trying gives me faith that one move will line up.
Speaker 3: That's why they're now or the deadline. So I can't
Speaker 3: be mad at him because he also did the other
Speaker 3: things I asked for, upgrading the shooting, upgrading the four position,
Speaker 3: So I think he's done everything. Now he has a
Speaker 3: important thing to do. But I think that I can't
Speaker 3: look at this offseason and be like super pissed at trade.
Speaker 3: I could be disappointed by can't be pissed and.
Speaker 1: Job's not finished. But we're still in the fight, yes,
Speaker 1: and that's all I can ask for. We just put
Speaker 1: an article shout out over sports dot Com. We're pumping
Speaker 1: articles out again, but I put out you know. Terry
Speaker 1: asked like, what are you most excitedful in Detroit? For me,
Speaker 1: it's the Detroit Pistons, Like there's the Selle of hope
Speaker 1: there where the Detroit Lions. I can think about them,
Speaker 1: and I know what make the playoffs?
Speaker 8: Do?
Speaker 1: I think about the defense? I get depressed with the
Speaker 1: Detroit Pistons. Again. Fight's not over and we're still in it.
Speaker 1: There's still a play to be made. And that's why
Speaker 1: I can't be out on trading just yet.
Speaker 2: And that's why, like DBK in the chat, it should
Speaker 2: be the complete opposite. And I understand that the Detroit
Speaker 2: fan is battered and bruised and beaten down in the
Speaker 2: acquisition market as of recently. He says, we ain't gonna
Speaker 2: get no superstar next decade. It's Detroit. I'm not getting
Speaker 2: my hopes up. That's that's a bad attitude to have
Speaker 2: towards this team because they have the flexibility to do that,
Speaker 2: like the Lions don't. I don't have the flexibility to
Speaker 2: add a superstar outside of drafting one. The Pistons do,
Speaker 2: and Trajan is in the mark I am with Chris.
Speaker 2: I wholeheartedly believe that Trajan Langdon will get a true
Speaker 2: number two, a true running mate, star player next to
Speaker 2: Kate cutting him. I believe him. I believe he's going
Speaker 2: to do it because it's what you gotta do. It's
Speaker 2: what you have to do in this league to truly compete,
Speaker 2: you need to have at least the second guy.
Speaker 1: Now, what was the pieces on top of those three
Speaker 1: first round picks and the Jaron Jackson Junior trade? Though,
Speaker 1: because I will say I do view Jaron Jackson Junior
Speaker 1: as a little bit more of an upgrade than Trey
Speaker 1: Murphy just because of what he's actually done in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I did be numbers last night too. Trey Murphy actually
Speaker 1: had a playoff series. He averaged like eleven points, but
Speaker 1: like Jared, I think he averaged like two blocks a
Speaker 1: game in the playoffs. Is not mistaken in a steel like.
Speaker 1: He's like dog defensively can spread the floor. Like if
Speaker 1: the trade value of Trey Murphy when it's the trigger's
Speaker 1: found Pollon becomes Detroit Pisson, if he becomes Detroit Pisson
Speaker 1: is equal to what Charon Jackson Junior went for, I
Speaker 1: might be able to disappointed, Yeah, because then for sure
Speaker 1: that's something you could have did the deadline last year
Speaker 1: when you had an a one overall Sea team.
Speaker 3: So the trade looks like it's similar to what Trey
Speaker 3: Murphy elist the Pelicans reportedly are looking for. It was three,
Speaker 3: It was three first, and i'll give you those specific
Speaker 3: first in the second here and rookie guard Walter Clayton.
Speaker 3: So basically a prospect in three first, Lord of Curry
Speaker 3: the first where the Lakers twenty twenty seven picks. So
Speaker 3: you don't think that'll be a great pick, but it
Speaker 3: could be. Who knows. LA is making a lot of changes.
Speaker 3: The Jazz is own either Utah or Cleveland, whichever is
Speaker 3: more favorable, whichever is higher. And the Phoenix Suns two
Speaker 3: thousand and thirty one first, which obviously you're looking at
Speaker 3: that is as a very valuable pick because that's several
Speaker 3: years out and they have nothing beyond like the future,
Speaker 3: you know it.
Speaker 1: To be fair, then those are just assets we didn't have. Yes,
Speaker 1: the first round picks we were working with aren't equal
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's something I think you just I'm glad you
Speaker 3: that up because I want to hammer that home. The
Speaker 3: Pistons fans out there that are looking at the trade market,
Speaker 3: there are a lot more valuable first on the market
Speaker 3: than what the Pisses can offer. Because when you have
Speaker 3: a franchise player like ky Kuyne him that many believe
Speaker 3: are expecting to be here for the long term, Asara
Speaker 3: Thompson another player expecting to be for the long term,
Speaker 3: Jalen during another long term. Like if you have a
Speaker 3: core of young, talented players that just won sixty games
Speaker 3: with with as we talked about, a shaky supporting cast,
Speaker 3: those future first aren't gonna be as valuable as these
Speaker 3: teams like Minnesota, where yes they're good right now, but
Speaker 3: who's to say that LaMelo doesn't cook them and ants
Speaker 3: out and then they're a bad team or Minnesota's gonna implode.
Speaker 3: That's not gonna work out, That's what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: like there's more valuable first on the market. So like
Speaker 3: the Pissones have to also understand that, Like, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe that was it, Maybe it wasn't Duran that was
Speaker 3: the breaking point in Boston. Maybe Boston just thinks that
Speaker 3: Philly is going to suck in the future, as opposed
Speaker 3: to the Pistons and they view that first as more favorable,
Speaker 3: like you know, like that.
Speaker 2: They're standing on they're standing on business. Did they think
Speaker 2: Derek White's better than Jaylen Brown? Which is he that
Speaker 2: he well that he impacts winning more than Jalen Brown?
Speaker 2: And if you look at the like on off stats,
Speaker 2: it's they're right. But obviously you have to go buy
Speaker 2: more than just that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. We'll see, we'll see. And
Speaker 1: now like we are White as good as Ivy though
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Derk Hight not as good as Ivy.
Speaker 1: We're talking, uh, you know talking.
Speaker 2: We've been talking about this movement player movement offseason for
Speaker 2: a while in the NBA, and you saw the first
Speaker 2: one this year where it was really people getting shuffled
Speaker 2: all over the place.
Speaker 1: Like obviously there would always.
Speaker 2: Be one or two, but this offseason there has been
Speaker 2: a lot of big players moving to different places. And
Speaker 2: that's how it's going to continue to be because with
Speaker 2: the aprons, with the way that you like have a
Speaker 2: five year window to realistically keep a team of or
Speaker 2: a build of four or five players together, and if
Speaker 2: you don't win a championship by then, or even if
Speaker 2: you do, you've got to blow it up after that, so, uh,
Speaker 2: people are gonna be moving around a lot. That's why
Speaker 2: you can't weigh yourself down with a forty five million
Speaker 2: dollar contract to a rim running center, because you have
Speaker 2: to have flexibility to be in on a move when
Speaker 2: people are getting moved out, because it's gonna happen a lot.
Speaker 3: Perfect example case in point today, Dovin Mitchell's extension his
Speaker 3: final year seventy seven point five million dollars. Do you
Speaker 3: think it will be a Cleveland Cavalier in the final
Speaker 3: year in that.
Speaker 2: No fucking way. Seventy seven million.
Speaker 3: Point five Jesus man.
Speaker 1: Don't forget that. Five other players taking less money to go,
Speaker 1: you know, go win championships, and there's Donovan Mitchell. It
Speaker 1: was that third highest in the NBA time. That's gotta
Speaker 1: be It's gotta be tough. I know, I heard that.
Speaker 3: I heard that Booker and SGA both have years that
Speaker 3: reach seventy. I think those are the only three contracts
Speaker 3: that reach seventy because you know, obviously with the going
Speaker 3: up every year, everybody you know, kind of resets the
Speaker 3: market like NFL Fairland.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna have to pay that.
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Speaker 1: there's there's tons of to talk about Detroit Pistons right now.
Speaker 1: I think, I said, I think the most exciting thing
Speaker 1: to talk about Detroit sports right now, there's just the
Speaker 1: hope there. But the one thing I'm sick of seeing
Speaker 1: through the national media more than anything else is this
Speaker 1: scenario or narrative that Jalen Duran is a victim in
Speaker 1: these contract negotiations. Man like they're blaming the CBA, like
Speaker 1: they're punishing the players through the CBA. No, Jalen Duran
Speaker 1: punished himself. There are other players are facing RFA. Austin
Speaker 1: Reeves is won. He got paid, Yeah, because he was
Speaker 1: worth it.
Speaker 5: The value was there.
Speaker 1: And by the way, again, people are able to offer
Speaker 1: Jalen Durrant contract. No one has done it, not a
Speaker 1: single fucking team. Stop playing him as the victim. He
Speaker 1: created a circumstance from himself. We did show up in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I say it time and time again.
Speaker 1: I'm getting sick of standing to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: And this is for the chat as well. Named me
Speaker 1: the guy paid as a number two on a championship
Speaker 1: team as a Jayleen Durham.
Speaker 2: Prototype in the past forty years.
Speaker 1: And if you if you did, if you dig deep
Speaker 1: and you grab a I saw some put this in
Speaker 1: in on my ex post when I put it out.
Speaker 1: Shack shack, Okay, that's fine, I'll accept Sheck, he's not
Speaker 1: fucking check like if you won't give them put the prototype? Sure,
Speaker 1: maybe I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not there with it. No because Shack then a
Speaker 1: knee creation scheck. Fucking just dominated Durin. Isn't that at
Speaker 1: least not yet? And he's not a victim by any circumstance.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be twenty six facing a free agent market again, yeah,
Speaker 1: if he decides to be, if he does take a
Speaker 1: qualifying offer. Jalen durn is not a victim from the CBA.
Speaker 1: Jan dur is not a victim from the Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 1: Jalen Durry is a victim from his own circumstances. He
Speaker 1: presented this to himself now any other way, No, And
Speaker 1: he literally had the audacity to go out there and
Speaker 1: say I want to play in Sacramento.
Speaker 2: Even that wasn't enough to get him forty million dollars.
Speaker 2: Like we've said it before. If he went out there
Speaker 2: and he was dropping twenty and twenty in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: the Kings or the Lakers or somebody like that would
Speaker 2: have offered him the money. You tested the waters. You're
Speaker 2: not as hot as.
Speaker 1: You think you are.
Speaker 2: Nobody came calling. It's like sitting there with the speed
Speaker 2: dating card and everybody's walking right past you, man, Like
Speaker 2: it's it's not that the Pistons are the big battye
Speaker 2: that wants that doesn't want to pay you or doesn't
Speaker 2: give you the money you deserve. Not a single team
Speaker 2: in the National Basketball Association wants to pay you that
Speaker 2: much money, flat out, and that's because they view that
Speaker 2: you are not worth it. I do like Jalen durt
Speaker 2: and what he can become. There's no chance in hell
Speaker 2: I'm paying him forty million.
Speaker 1: Tonsports chastays Maris Tottomar Marsh Sttomar my starter mark. Now
Speaker 1: shut up, I know more basketball than you. He went
Speaker 1: a championship.
Speaker 2: When did a Maris Stanomyer win a championship?
Speaker 3: We didn't even play in the fucking finals, And I
Speaker 3: would probably argue I might have to look at the numbers.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be egregious year, but like Sean Marrion,
Speaker 3: like puts some respect on his name because everything he
Speaker 3: did versatility.
Speaker 1: Why it's like you could.
Speaker 2: Mary wasn't the number two and he was one of
Speaker 2: the best defenders in the league.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. You might make an argument that
Speaker 4: he was a better player than startmar I'd have to.
Speaker 1: Look Amyer was gabaging over twenty points a game. Stomyer
Speaker 1: was first Team All NBA. Like, we're talking about a
Speaker 1: massively more talented player than and never won a championship.
Speaker 1: So it's moot. Yes, so markus shoot consistently Sttomar showed
Speaker 1: up in the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 3: Look, I understand the NBA conversation because you know me,
Speaker 3: I listened to a lot of NBA podcasts.
Speaker 1: Well, real quick, this is actually pull up crazy stat.
Speaker 1: Maris Stardomyer at the age twenty two, averaged twenty nine
Speaker 1: point nine points in the playoffs at age twenty two,
Speaker 1: four playoffs. Holy shit, he was a beast. Don't compare Jalens.
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's let's back off with that one.
Speaker 4: So I think that.
Speaker 3: So listen, I listened to a lot of NBA podcasts,
Speaker 3: So I understand the The granular point they're trying to
Speaker 3: make is that restricted free agents in general have been
Speaker 3: the victims of this CBA because you know, teams are
Speaker 3: using it to pinch pennies. Well, you know what, at
Speaker 3: the end of the at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: like you guys said, there's no one to blame for
Speaker 3: for Jalen Duran's financial situation other than Jalen Duran himself,
Speaker 3: and are we I'm sorry, like, are we just pissed
Speaker 3: that there's not a dumb team out there that's willing
Speaker 3: to do this, because we would all clown that team
Speaker 3: if that team offered Jalen Duran forty plus million, because look,
Speaker 3: you guys are all pissed at Okay, see is this dynasty?
Speaker 3: Well how do they become a dynasty off of stupid
Speaker 3: trades from stupid teams? So, like you, you clearly don't
Speaker 3: want stupidity in the NBA. You don't want franchises that
Speaker 3: are being that are being idiots. You want everybody to
Speaker 3: be smart, savvy and good with their decisions. And now
Speaker 3: that it's finally happening, And yes, some players, some specific
Speaker 3: players in specific scenarios are getting squeezed because of it.
Speaker 3: That is not that is just a product of better basketball.
Speaker 3: That is just a product of the evolution of the
Speaker 3: game of team building. So you cannot be mad at
Speaker 3: anybody but Jalen Duran and Jayleen Duran can't be mad
Speaker 3: at anybody but himself. And he does have the ultimate
Speaker 3: fu the qualifying offer. I understand it's a lot. I
Speaker 3: don't think he's going to turn down one hundred plus
Speaker 3: million dollars to do it. But he does have that
Speaker 3: ability if he so chooses do it.
Speaker 1: Uh or sports shat. Your mama would pay him. She
Speaker 1: couldn't afford him, but she probably would. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: you know, we're a handsome man.
Speaker 3: Would you guys, would either of you right now if
Speaker 3: you're Jaalen Duran take the qualifying offer and bet on yourself.
Speaker 1: No, no, dude, you're gonna be twenty six in four
Speaker 1: years in the contracts Oh no, no.
Speaker 3: No, no, The qualifying offer is one year and then
Speaker 3: you're unrestriarched.
Speaker 1: No I know, but I'm saying you can test reach
Speaker 1: it again and make this money.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And by the way, in your prime, it's the same
Speaker 1: way every single right now, thirty five minute is Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's still a lot. I'm being honestly. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie you, and I'm not trying to be dispected towards you. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the situation deal with right now. The contract is trading
Speaker 1: and the rest of the NBA feels the same way.
Speaker 1: But the market is gonna go up nationally too. At
Speaker 1: twenty six. You're gonna get more money, Dudeah, And I
Speaker 1: would stop being I don't know if it's him the agent.
Speaker 1: I don't want to like call names and call anybody
Speaker 1: cry babies, like what are we doing?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 1: Do it?
Speaker 2: Do it effortless?
Speaker 8: Is?
Speaker 2: My question is to y'all, is who will you replace
Speaker 2: Durham with Paul Reied GTF.
Speaker 1: We don't have.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be on the team like Jalen duran is.
Speaker 2: You don't have to replace. He's not a free agent
Speaker 2: who's walking if you don't give him forty million dollars
Speaker 2: a year, like it's not holy forty million dollars a
Speaker 2: year or no, Jalen duran He's gonna be on this
Speaker 2: team and he's not gonna get paid forty million dollars
Speaker 2: a year trajan one like that.
Speaker 5: That's a fact.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I think people think that it's
Speaker 2: if you don't sign him for forty million dollars, he
Speaker 2: will no. He is on this team next year, no
Speaker 2: matter what, and he will more than likely sign the
Speaker 2: hundred million dollar contract that the Pistons are going to
Speaker 2: offer him.
Speaker 1: Tanaj doubles down and the Jalen durn of aytotomyre comps
Speaker 1: at age twenty two in two thousand and four to
Speaker 1: two thousand and five season, Amaro Stotamarra averaged and eighty games,
Speaker 1: twenty six points a game and finishes a top ten
Speaker 1: MVP candidate.
Speaker 2: What do we do?
Speaker 1: What are we doing?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 1: We got put the pipe down, step away by way.
Speaker 1: Mari Stoti market play all over the court as well,
Speaker 1: stretched the floor a little bit, had an offensive game.
Speaker 1: Didn't need the offense credit for him. Although he had
Speaker 1: Steve Nash, he didn't need that creation and he could
Speaker 1: created himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, JJ forty seven cases. Jalen Durham doesn't have the
Speaker 2: bag that Omari had. You get all the amount of
Speaker 2: the post moves, the back down scene. Amaro Stottlemyer was
Speaker 2: was hit.
Speaker 3: And also also look, I don't get this point because
Speaker 3: he signed a very lucrative deal and was not worth
Speaker 3: that next contract. It's all because he had a bunch
Speaker 3: of health injuries and he fell apart, Like what is
Speaker 3: the so what We're supposed to pay him Stottomeyer money
Speaker 3: even though Stotamarrio was better and that contract ended up
Speaker 3: being bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's your point. His point is that we have
Speaker 2: the next to Mario stamar So we don't. So we
Speaker 2: shouldn't pay him. If he should, if he even was
Speaker 2: a Mari Sttenmeyer, it still wouldn't be worth it. Worth it.
Speaker 2: Look how it worked out. Shad with the super chant
Speaker 2: says during gets cucked by a MF named Wendell in
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and you think he deserves forty mili Like, listen,
Speaker 2: I think Jalen Duran will get better, I do. Is
Speaker 2: he a forty million dollar player a year right now?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not? And and that's why no team in the
Speaker 2: NBA is willing to give him that money. It's not
Speaker 2: just the big meme Pistons, oh, the cheap Pistons. No,
Speaker 2: it is. No team in the NBA will give him.
Speaker 3: That much money, right And the Pisces are just getting
Speaker 3: villainized because it is their player. If it was anybody else,
Speaker 3: the national media would be villainizing that team because they're
Speaker 3: trying to be fake sympa to these players.
Speaker 1: They don't. Yeah, man, the virtue singing with a bullshit
Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here. No one's a fucking
Speaker 1: victim at twenty two making thirty plus million dollars a year. Brother, Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: take that shit show. It turns out with his shoveling
Speaker 1: a sad Yeah.
Speaker 4: Look, there's crazy, there's how could you.
Speaker 2: Do this to this young man.
Speaker 5: You're making a hundred million dollars like what he's about.
Speaker 2: To say, one hundred million dollar contract.
Speaker 1: Don't feel bad for him.
Speaker 3: And on top of that, like Jalen Durin can find
Speaker 3: middle ground and agree to a contract. Maybe you can't
Speaker 3: because age it doesn't seem the best, but he can.
Speaker 3: But there's room. Like you could do a you could
Speaker 3: do a three year contract with a fourth year player option.
Speaker 3: Then look you get you get to start the market
Speaker 3: at twenty five instead of twenty six.
Speaker 1: You could do a two plus two.
Speaker 3: You can do all sorts of things because I'm sure
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, there is a lot
Speaker 3: of wiggle room between the Detroit Pisses and you to
Speaker 3: find middle ground. It sounds like you guys are very
Speaker 3: far apart. So guess what me in the middle with
Speaker 3: a shorter term deal. I think the pisses would probably
Speaker 3: take Jaalen durn on a shorter deal. I don't think
Speaker 3: they're just locking up to hear, here's your four year deal.
Speaker 3: That's probably what they offered him. But I think the
Speaker 3: pisses would sign a two year deal and take the
Speaker 3: gamble because what if he is a bum in the
Speaker 3: playoffs again, and then you could get off of that
Speaker 3: contract and then you're not hampered by that contract. I
Speaker 3: think the pisses would be open to a two year deal.
Speaker 4: They don't have this.
Speaker 3: This doesn't have to be this thing that screws him
Speaker 3: for generations and robs him of all his money.
Speaker 1: Like he has flexibility. How dare you.
Speaker 2: Give this twenty one year old, one hundred million dollar contract,
Speaker 2: you monsters.
Speaker 1: No, the Sun's not going to files with Mario Shoda Mayer.
Speaker 1: So somebody asked, did not Tim Duncan unfortunately, was yes,
Speaker 1: those are some.
Speaker 2: Great Tim Duncan worth forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this one playoff series, and I
Speaker 1: think David Robinson the first have made light work of them,
Speaker 1: but like the Sun's won Game one, and that's when
Speaker 1: they had the number one offense in the league, and
Speaker 1: they're like the hottest town. Yeah, shot Mike D'Antoni and
Speaker 1: then the and then Tim Duncan starts strutching the floor
Speaker 1: and shooting threes.
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
Speaker 1: It was yeah, I was like, what the fuck, dude.
Speaker 3: I vividly remember that game because it was just like
Speaker 3: Tim Duncan's like, all right, we need threes now, I
Speaker 3: got yeah.
Speaker 1: He also let's get him all away from the basket.
Speaker 1: I got you.
Speaker 2: Kids these days, this is the first time I'm using
Speaker 2: my NK status. Kids these days will never truly appreciate
Speaker 2: how good Tim Duncan is a basketball We didn't because
Speaker 2: unless you see what he did for ten years, Like
Speaker 2: you watch his highlights and you know, okay, guys hitting
Speaker 2: turn around bank shots all day, little jump hooks. Who cares, No,
Speaker 2: he was. Tim Duncan's a top ten player AF He
Speaker 2: was a winner.
Speaker 1: As he did, I mean the big fundamental Yeah.
Speaker 3: He was what he was what Bill Russell did, but
Speaker 3: against but against action.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, that's a hundred, that's so true. He
Speaker 2: was the Bill Russell of actual NBA. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Actual.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a.
Speaker 2: He's an NBA coaches. Yeah.
Speaker 1: For defense, super skillful on the offensive end. Team player,
Speaker 1: wasn't louder resistant to anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, took team contract, team friendly contracts.
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Speaker 1: Boughton d friends off French mash talking to Detroit Pistons
Speaker 1: free agency, maybe a little bit of trades. A name
Speaker 1: has been bouncing around lately that I'm not as familiar with,
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm gonna go to christ on this one.
Speaker 1: Peyton Watson.
Speaker 7: Yes, what is?
Speaker 1: What is? What is going on with this cat? Who
Speaker 1: is this cat? Why would he fit the Pistons? Why
Speaker 1: are people freaking out about this? So?
Speaker 3: Peyton Watson is somebody that I have liked for the
Speaker 3: last couple of years, but but really kind of in
Speaker 3: the last really he kind of emerged last year in
Speaker 3: the playoffs and then this year in the regular season
Speaker 3: he he kind of got a bigger role due to
Speaker 3: some injuries and some players being moved on from He's
Speaker 3: a three to four.
Speaker 4: I guess you can maybe stretched.
Speaker 3: Down two, but uh, truely good point. But he's somebody
Speaker 3: that's like a that projects as a three and D wing.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's as good of a defender, but
Speaker 3: he has the frame that you that you would like
Speaker 3: on an NBA player. I believe he's sixty seven or
Speaker 3: six eight, So he's a He's a player that has
Speaker 3: the wing that the frame that you that you'd want
Speaker 3: to have. And he showed great flashes of scoring thirty
Speaker 3: plus multiple times when Denver was hurt and they didn't
Speaker 3: really have anybody. So he's a very young, exciting player.
Speaker 3: I think he's you know, he hasn't flashed as consistently
Speaker 3: as Trey Murphy the upside, but he's I put him
Speaker 3: in that vein of interesting players, not that tier, but
Speaker 3: in that vein, in that archetype of you're projecting him
Speaker 3: to be a three and D wing again my personal
Speaker 3: opinion watching the tape, not the greatest defender, but but
Speaker 3: definitely a shooter and definitely somebody that can that can
Speaker 3: be another score, but mainly catch and shoot as opposed.
Speaker 4: To self creation.
Speaker 1: And what is the price tag on that you think?
Speaker 3: I don't know, because I think you can actually play
Speaker 3: pretty hardball with Denver because Denver is a team that
Speaker 3: doesn't really want to go to a second apron. It's
Speaker 3: been well known in the NBA that they've been trying
Speaker 3: to Yeah, like so.
Speaker 1: Cheap I think that they're crazy.
Speaker 3: I think that they're a situation where if I had
Speaker 3: to guess, I would say a first and something else,
Speaker 3: like maybe a protected for like a first and a swap,
Speaker 3: or like a first and a couple of seconds.
Speaker 1: One good year for Yeah, but I mean, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: he's numbers. He averaged four and a half points last year.
Speaker 3: He didn't have a great playoffs, but he did have
Speaker 3: a he did have moments the previous playoffs, and then
Speaker 3: he had a good stretch in the right.
Speaker 2: Is it because this is a type of guy that
Speaker 2: you would get in on the Trey Murphy contract, Like,
Speaker 2: this is not a guy that would be seeing the
Speaker 2: thirty plus million dollars a year, but you could sign
Speaker 2: him for twenties or something like that. So off of
Speaker 2: his rookie deal.
Speaker 3: So right now he wants twenty five and Denver is like,
Speaker 3: I'm not doing I would pay twenty five. So so yeah,
Speaker 3: so that that's what you would be investing. It is
Speaker 3: if you believe that that's a Trey Murphy type contract
Speaker 3: where for the next four years it's a steal. I
Speaker 3: think that if you're asking me personally what he is,
Speaker 3: that's risky. I think he's a mid I think he's
Speaker 3: a mid tier starter with upside to being a high
Speaker 3: tier starter, but I don't think he'd ever be top
Speaker 3: We got Trey Murphy at home, top ten or top
Speaker 3: eight at his position.
Speaker 1: For the audience who may not be familiar, he's with
Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets. Not necessarily started, but he started forty
Speaker 1: games this year, only playing fifty four. He did average
Speaker 1: fourteen and a half points, two sists, five total rebounds.
Speaker 1: He shot forty one percent from three on three and
Speaker 1: a half shots per game. And he's asking for twenty
Speaker 1: five million.
Speaker 3: There was really a stretcher, and it was it was
Speaker 3: like February. It was it was February through March where
Speaker 3: he was like, he was torching, like.
Speaker 2: And that's what That's what happens with these first the
Speaker 2: second contract of these three and D guys is you
Speaker 2: gotta sometimes you gotta take a risk and hope they
Speaker 2: become the Trey Murphy. And that's where he's at right now.
Speaker 2: He's at his all, right, what are you going to
Speaker 2: be in this league? It's one way or another. So whatever,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to say I want the
Speaker 2: Pistons to do this because it's that's a lot of
Speaker 2: risk for a guy that you would be expecting to
Speaker 2: be a big part of your team next year. So
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the that's the place I
Speaker 2: want them going. But whatever team takes the risk on him,
Speaker 2: it's high risk, I reward and nitty gritty with the
Speaker 2: super GEDTI. So shout out to all the in the chat.
Speaker 1: Today, shout out there was a super chat that I
Speaker 1: don't believe we got to you guys, Correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Beside this said, Am I wrong in thinking
Speaker 1: Mistress Blue? Any window for Cleveland? How do they get
Speaker 1: any better and not get swept by the Knicks?
Speaker 16: No?
Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right, because those are the contracts
Speaker 2: you can only give out to when you are sure
Speaker 2: that this guy is a super duper star, Like you
Speaker 2: could only give a contract like that out to one
Speaker 2: of the best players in the league because it hard
Speaker 2: caps you of what you can be. Like you give
Speaker 2: those contracts to the kids, to the Lucas, to the ants,
Speaker 2: to to the SGA's, to the guys that you know.
Speaker 2: They're the team, they're the system, they're the they're the
Speaker 2: deal because you can only put so many other pieces
Speaker 2: around them when you're paying them that much money. So
Speaker 2: I do think that he just handcuffed Cleveland to what
Speaker 2: they could truly be as a team. But luckily for Cleveland,
Speaker 2: they have the Lebron factor to where he's gonna take
Speaker 2: a very cheap deal to probably go play there.
Speaker 3: And I mean, and I mean, I guess we're seeing
Speaker 3: that with this, with this CBA, that a lot of
Speaker 3: players are just able to be moved at any point.
Speaker 3: And so I think it's like gonna be a constant
Speaker 3: cycle of like, oh, now this team is ready to compete,
Speaker 3: So they'll take Donovan Mitchell on a bead, on a
Speaker 3: bad contract because for two years he might be a
Speaker 3: bit of an overpay, but he might be the piece
Speaker 3: we need. Going to to Peyton Watson. So it was
Speaker 3: a month of January, he averaged twenty one point nine
Speaker 3: so twenty two points per game, shot forty six percent
Speaker 3: from three on an average, a block average a block
Speaker 3: a game too well, and what was his three pointers,
Speaker 3: Payne Watson in the month of January.
Speaker 4: Okay, so this is what has people excited.
Speaker 3: Twenty two points a game, forty six percent from three,
Speaker 3: and two point four threes on five on five attempts.
Speaker 4: So like he was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he showcased a high level of production. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of games in there against Boston, against a lot
Speaker 3: of good defensive.
Speaker 2: Ten twenty points a game. It was for a month twenty,
Speaker 2: but twenty points a game with only averaging two threes
Speaker 2: made per game is impressive, Yeah, because that means you're
Speaker 2: getting buckets other ways, you're getting to the line, you're
Speaker 2: you're doing different things. So yeah, that does help with
Speaker 2: the shot creation. Sounds like he's at least a somewhat
Speaker 2: decent shot creator for himself. If you can average twenty
Speaker 2: plus in the league while only making two threes, you
Speaker 2: gotta be able to get your own shot at some point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, his free throws were sporadic, like to two free
Speaker 3: throw at ten games. Then he had a couple of
Speaker 3: tens in there, a couple eight's in there, So he
Speaker 3: did showcase like, yeah, some ability.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 3: I watched him though, and I feel like I feel
Speaker 3: like that was a good player having a good month.
Speaker 3: I don't think that that's something that you can project.
Speaker 2: Could you see him being Trey Murphy though?
Speaker 3: I think I think Trey Murphy is like a good
Speaker 3: ceiling for him. Okay, I think I think it's like
Speaker 3: a good ceiling for him.
Speaker 2: And the floor is like Justin Jackson, Like.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that he's not gonna go back like that,
Speaker 4: but Josh, I.
Speaker 1: Think one of the Jackson's Dude, what I thought Justin
Speaker 1: Jackson was gonna be good?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked Josh It. I kind of like Josh Jackson,
Speaker 3: who's a good flour I don't know, like a like
Speaker 3: a solid like a solid three in the NBA. Like
Speaker 3: I think he could be like a I think his
Speaker 3: floor is like, you know, like heurb Jones a starter. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I guess, I guess I heard Jones, but not defensively.
Speaker 1: Would you pay him twenty five million dollars for a
Speaker 1: month of production if I was desperate, By the way,
Speaker 1: I will only play fify four games for the Pistons
Speaker 1: if I was the Pistons. No, if I was in
Speaker 1: a different situation where you have to take a risk
Speaker 1: on a guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? Because that's like, it's not like twenty
Speaker 2: five million dollars a year for four years is gonna
Speaker 2: obliterate what you could do. You could eventually move that
Speaker 2: contract if he doesn't become anything more than a starter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're the wizard of.
Speaker 2: Yeah if if I'm not the Pistons, but if I
Speaker 2: was a team in a different situation than the Pistons,
Speaker 2: I would probably take a shot on a modern CBA.
Speaker 2: You can't be taking risks like I feel like those
Speaker 2: are the risks that you take. Though. Yes, it's way
Speaker 2: more difficult to take a risk on a Jalen Duran
Speaker 2: or a Trey Murphy now because Trey Murphy's gonna want
Speaker 2: a forty million dollars a year a contract after this
Speaker 2: one's up. But if you take the chance on a
Speaker 2: twenty five million dollar a year contract, that can be
Speaker 2: kind of round.
Speaker 3: Also, I don't think he's getting twenty five because remember
Speaker 3: otherwise he would have been signed, you know, like that's
Speaker 3: what he wants. So I've yes, he's a strict of
Speaker 3: free agent, so I think that he's probably he's probably
Speaker 3: being offered right now, like seventeen to eighteen by Denver
Speaker 3: and they're probably so you could probably come in with
Speaker 3: an offer sheet of twenty two million if you want
Speaker 3: it to and and you know, and get them. But
Speaker 3: I just I get, I hear you. It's it's a risk.
Speaker 2: I'd be.
Speaker 3: I'd be excited because I think he I think he
Speaker 3: fits the team, and I think it'd be a tradable contract.
Speaker 3: But I also at the same time, it's not the
Speaker 3: it's not the swing that is the upside that you know,
Speaker 3: puts you in the championship contention. Last he just fully
Speaker 3: blossoms and you know that.
Speaker 4: That's that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you would also have to move off money
Speaker 3: in order to get him, because.
Speaker 1: Remember, I think it's a situation where we're gonna match whatever.
Speaker 3: Probably I don't think Denver matches anything above twenty five
Speaker 3: from fifteen. I think that's probably what. Like I said,
Speaker 3: Denver's probably offering him like seventeen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's but you haven't done enough. I feel
Speaker 1: like they probably it's another during situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: And then I click over the playoffs, tams mixed up
Speaker 1: four and a half points. You didn't Sorry, you want
Speaker 1: twenty million.
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Speaker 1: I should say about the Sacramento Kings and some articles,
Speaker 1: some some publications have him pinned as a Detroit pist.
Speaker 1: I've spoken this before. If you guys in here the
Speaker 1: first time around, that is the last piece I want
Speaker 1: on this team. Unless he's willing to come off the bench.
Speaker 1: I can maybe I could be talked into the staggered
Speaker 1: manch Demarta Rose to come up the bench. I don't
Speaker 1: think Demors's rosie is ready to come off the bench
Speaker 1: in this point is career. He's still average twenty points. Aya.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, you can't spread the floor and
Speaker 1: work fluidly with Kay Cunnym, themar de Rozen and Jalen
Speaker 1: Duran on this team. It's just not gonna work. Can
Speaker 1: Demrta Rose get your bucket? And altho we do we
Speaker 1: want a guy to get your bucket?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I have him done it off the bench. Kate Cunnyim
Speaker 1: is our mini man. Kay Cunnyam is our mini magician.
Speaker 1: And when Kate Cunyam gets in there, if the SHOT's
Speaker 1: not there to be made, he's kicking it out to
Speaker 1: a guy in the three point line and you're after
Speaker 1: one and a half plus points in that situation, this
Speaker 1: is not a fit. I'm the biggest proponent of this,
Speaker 1: I think more than anybody that I know on this
Speaker 1: nutberk at the damn least right when they did that
Speaker 1: situation in Phoenix, Kad Devin Booker, Bradley Beal, those are
Speaker 1: names those are very good basketball players. Did it work No,
Speaker 1: because it didn't fit at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I think the Miami Heat situation with bam Oudebayo, John
Speaker 1: Sandeakupo out there is gonna work, because no, it doesn't fit.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: experiments in situations we've seen like this throughout the NBA history.
Speaker 1: They're like a lot of good players. Like on paper,
Speaker 1: that makes sense when it comes to x's and o's
Speaker 1: and get these guys in their spots and allow them
Speaker 1: to win games basketball games for you, it doesn't work out, No,
Speaker 1: I don't want DeMar DeRozan clogging up the paint or
Speaker 1: in the mid position more than k Connyam orver k
Speaker 1: Conym or just in a space at all. I don't
Speaker 1: want DeMar de Rozan on this team. I think there'll
Speaker 1: be a bad investment. Think it'd be bad for us.
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I think that it would
Speaker 3: be worthwhile if you could find the right situation, like
Speaker 3: you said, because one a couple of things that he
Speaker 3: brings to this Piston team that you would value and
Speaker 3: appreciate is obviously the ability to create an own shot.
Speaker 4: He's he's a very underrated playmaker.
Speaker 3: I mean, he has so many seven eight assist games
Speaker 3: and that was on the Kings. Brother, on the Kings,
Speaker 3: you're generating plays buckets for others, you are special. I
Speaker 3: think that there's some things that he does, and also
Speaker 3: the way he draws fouls and gets to the free
Speaker 3: throw line. I think there are abilities that he has
Speaker 3: that you like. But the context is, yes, if he
Speaker 3: is a sixth man, if I'm getting him on the
Speaker 3: mid level exception that I have and I can use anyways, okay, cool,
Speaker 3: But I am not showing out actual capital to get
Speaker 3: him in assigning trade. I'm not, actually, you know, and
Speaker 3: I know that's not what they're saying, but just putting
Speaker 3: it in context here. If you are getting him for
Speaker 3: free and he is under the standing of being a
Speaker 3: super charge bench player, I think he could bring positive value, yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure, But I don't think that's happening. I think
Speaker 3: he is probably going home to Toronto or maybe to
Speaker 3: la because we.
Speaker 1: All know that happen. Kawhy do we think you would
Speaker 1: get us a ring Drake? Drake must mispur of the moment.
Speaker 1: That was a fucking bar.
Speaker 3: Hey, man, If Kendrick came to Toronto. I'm sure Kawhi
Speaker 3: or DeMar could come to Toronto.
Speaker 2: That's a good point.
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about that. But I think that Miami's
Speaker 3: also been linked. And I saw.
Speaker 1: Raca you come, have your game, come at your concert,
Speaker 1: but you gotta go right back to the plane after.
Speaker 4: That's crazy, he said in the song.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, but I think that going forward,
Speaker 3: I think that Tomorrow would be welcomed back with open
Speaker 3: arms for everybody but Drake, and they'd have some heart
Speaker 3: to heart or whatever they'd fix.
Speaker 2: I listen, if Jamar DeRozan wants to play on a
Speaker 2: good team next year, he's going to be coming off
Speaker 2: the bench out like and I know some people are
Speaker 2: in love with it. No, he can be. I don't
Speaker 2: really like the whole argument of falling in love with
Speaker 2: a name or that type of thing, but I think, like,
Speaker 2: actually truly wanting DeMar DeRozan to be on this team
Speaker 2: and a part of this corps is just falling in
Speaker 2: love with the name, because nothing he does fits what
Speaker 2: you want to do on this team.
Speaker 1: And uh, I just think that.
Speaker 2: If he's going somewhere, like Chris said, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: somewhere in la or back to Toronto or Miami, and
Speaker 2: he's going to be a bench player. So if you
Speaker 2: want to die on the hill of we need DeMar
Speaker 2: DeRozan coming off the bench. I mean whatever, Like that's
Speaker 2: not a hill. Is DeMar DeRozan gonna make your bench unit,
Speaker 2: you know, astronomically better?
Speaker 1: Not really?
Speaker 2: Not really, He's he's not that effective of a player anymore.
Speaker 2: He's just not. So could he make give you a
Speaker 2: minor upgrade to your bench unit?
Speaker 10: Sure?
Speaker 2: Is he a starter in the league anymore, not on
Speaker 2: a good team. So it's not somebody that I'm dying
Speaker 2: on the hill one way or another to make sure
Speaker 2: that they come to Detroit. He just got cut by
Speaker 2: the Kings.
Speaker 1: Well he wanted out. He wanted out, yeah, buddy, and
Speaker 1: they couldn't get a trade offer for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a reason he got cut. Like when you
Speaker 2: get it, when you ask out of somewhere, normally it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: send me there.
Speaker 1: I'm not asking to be like an elite three point
Speaker 1: shooting team. I mean I would love that, Hank, say
Speaker 1: no to that, but give me some floor spacing, especially
Speaker 1: with a guy like k Cunny and you could create
Speaker 1: from that. I just I just don't. It's just not
Speaker 1: a fit.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm really big on the fit and it's you know.
Speaker 14: It.
Speaker 2: He's got two routes for the rest of his career.
Speaker 2: Is you can go be an effective piece coming off
Speaker 2: of the bench for a for a performer for a
Speaker 2: team and in a very limited role. Or you can
Speaker 2: go and you can you can be a guy on
Speaker 2: a bad team like you were on Sacramento, where you
Speaker 2: want to average in the teams and you want to
Speaker 2: still be a guy a starter. Okay, you're gonna play
Speaker 2: for the Kings, but if you want to play for
Speaker 2: a good team and you want to play meaningful basketball,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to come off the bench. Who's our
Speaker 2: starting two guards is Runyon Duncan Robins?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Duncan Robinson.
Speaker 1: Who is a.
Speaker 2: Much better starter in this league right now? Martin Rose,
Speaker 2: especially at the two.
Speaker 1: Well, the other thing I'd say too, like the Martin
Speaker 1: Roz has been in this league long enough, Like let's
Speaker 1: look at the track record, Like when has he been
Speaker 1: in the finals. He's been the conference finals. Lebron James
Speaker 1: fucking ship on him, and what Lebron did to him
Speaker 1: and Kyle Lawi was.
Speaker 3: But again, to be fair, you're asking him to be
Speaker 3: a bench piece. You're not asking him to be like
Speaker 3: the piece, you know.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying as a piece against as you know,
Speaker 1: what does he contributed to really, you know, in the
Speaker 1: scheme of things. He's been a multiple different teams. He's
Speaker 1: an all star guard. He's been in the league for
Speaker 1: a while. Like I said, do you you know dribble
Speaker 1: dribble scores points.
Speaker 2: He's the type of guy that was coming off the
Speaker 2: Miami heat bench when the Heatles were there. It is
Speaker 2: a Again, I don't want to be too disrespectful, but
Speaker 2: he's washed, man. He's not what he used to be.
Speaker 2: And what he used to be was a a good
Speaker 2: guard on a bad on good teams. He was never,
Speaker 2: you know, an elite player on an elite team. It's
Speaker 2: not what he was. It's not and that's fine, But
Speaker 2: let's not act like he's going to be a savior
Speaker 2: for the Pistons.
Speaker 1: Uh, says Dunk and his ass his channel won't give
Speaker 1: it up. He's a better fit for the Detroit Pistons
Speaker 1: than Mardarro's on thousand. You guys told me the same
Speaker 1: stuff j n Ives is a great player. It just
Speaker 1: didn't work out. Andrey came in towards the end two
Speaker 1: but just never worked out. Literally gave us the worst
Speaker 1: record in franchise history.
Speaker 3: Duncan Robinson had more playoff points last year than the
Speaker 3: last four years of them.
Speaker 4: Because he's been on the Kingsimbles.
Speaker 1: It's like, uh and I saw these highlights. I mean,
Speaker 1: run around on Twitter making his way. Josh Smith, Josh
Speaker 1: Smith put up good individual numbers. Came here at Craig
Speaker 1: Monroe and Andre Drummond. That was the fucking ugliest basketball.
Speaker 1: Some of the ugliest basketball I've seen this team play
Speaker 1: in my lifetime.
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't fit the same at all.
Speaker 1: You got you gotta have fits. It can't just you
Speaker 1: can't just grab a guy it's averaging twenty. Throw him
Speaker 1: in any lineup and he's gonna produce the same weight
Speaker 1: and win games. It's just not just now how it works.
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Speaker 1: I'm buying the house right now, And we appreciate you
Speaker 1: for that. H Bibby says, we're getting rid of Holland,
Speaker 1: I'll take your Dorozen and I would two in that scenario.
Speaker 1: And if we'll get rid of Holland, hopefully getting somethingow
Speaker 1: souped up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if you added another star and needed to
Speaker 2: fill out bench spots, would love Tomor That's.
Speaker 1: The thing too, is like, Okay, Damar's coming up the bench,
Speaker 1: Holland's coming off the bench again with the spacing, and
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, you don't. Let's put Holland
Speaker 1: at the four, but Damar's been playing the four lately too.
Speaker 3: There's no matter how you shake it, he's.
Speaker 1: Gonna be playing good one.
Speaker 3: Uh the more you say it, the more he's going
Speaker 3: to be playing with one to two non spacers.
Speaker 1: So it is gonna be a tricky fit.
Speaker 3: However, I mean, look, you can make if I want
Speaker 3: to just be completely Devil's advocate here, you can make
Speaker 3: an argument that Tobias was not shooting the three at
Speaker 3: all in the playoffs, but he was still able to
Speaker 3: get buckets in that ugly space Singe. He was like
Speaker 3: just inside basket, yeah, and we.
Speaker 1: Lost, yeah exactly. So unfortunately, I just saw one in there.
Speaker 1: I apologize, I don't know who asked it, but they're asking, Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, dine on the hill for the
Speaker 1: ros and but they're asking easy. What is Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: gave me the playoffs throughout his career? This is out
Speaker 1: of his career, twenty nine points in the playoffs and
Speaker 1: the one game that he played last year for the
Speaker 1: Houston Rockets he had twenty three points and shot fifty
Speaker 1: eight percent. Previous playoffs stant was twenty three twenty four.
Speaker 1: We have his twenty six point eight points per game.
Speaker 1: The year before that, in twenty two twenty three, he
Speaker 1: has twenty nine points per game. And by the way,
Speaker 1: throughout the entirety of his career shooting thirty five percent
Speaker 1: from three. And in the field situation, mind you, no,
Speaker 1: no point guard Tobias Harris put up thirty points playing
Speaker 1: with Kay Cunning at the four spot. What do you
Speaker 1: think Kevin Durant would do? There's no his Harris in
Speaker 1: the offensive with Cunny. Ridiculous And I'm not try to
Speaker 1: shut on you just I'm just I'm just asking you
Speaker 1: to sh logically go through the steps like tell me
Speaker 1: the facilitator and created that Kevin Katie has played with
Speaker 1: in the past five years ever really as good as
Speaker 1: Keke Cunny to that level, There hasn't There hasn't been one.
Speaker 1: Him and k would be fucking nuts. Is the perfect pairing.
Speaker 1: Now that we could talk costs, if your hold up
Speaker 1: as a cost, if it's like three plus first round
Speaker 1: picks and then some stuff like I'm with you, let's
Speaker 1: let's hold on, let's hold on. Was wait a minute,
Speaker 1: because probably played real estate two to three more years.
Speaker 1: But if it's anything other than that, I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't condone it. I really can't.
Speaker 2: There's no way people are like, actually that pressed over.
Speaker 2: Do you actually think Demarta Rosen is the missing piece
Speaker 2: for the Pistons. Is Reggie Jackson still on the team?
Speaker 2: That's when he would be good.
Speaker 1: The ship that gets me too is when people discuss
Speaker 1: it as an equal to coming to We told him
Speaker 1: fucking DeMar DeRozan, who's all due respect to him. It'll
Speaker 1: be truly sure, But at a time when you speak
Speaker 1: about as equal to Kevin Durant joined this team, I
Speaker 1: mean that's truly like just like jail, like you should
Speaker 1: go to jail for that ship to jail honestly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to call call up the police, snitch and
Speaker 1: press charges because that's fucking criminal shiit criminals. Sharry On
Speaker 1: nowhere near equal to what what Kevin Durant is now
Speaker 1: at any point in his career.
Speaker 2: Prolific FC says, asking what a two time finals MVP
Speaker 2: has done in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I mean, I don't know. Man, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not, I don't know. I'm trying to help you
Speaker 1: guys walk through the steps.
Speaker 2: Sometimes.
Speaker 1: I liked when this city didn't watch basketball. I don't
Speaker 1: understand it.
Speaker 3: Man, when it comes up like basketball, Durant should be
Speaker 3: the one person that everybody's just.
Speaker 4: On board with.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't understand that. Yeah, Durant, tell us.
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Speaker 1: This gentleman in the chat right now call himself in
Speaker 1: a ficionado of basketball. Okay, the same gentleman who compared Kevin.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry to let me back check it.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm too fushing by Mary stodhom Are the
Speaker 1: jaileen fucking dirt that you're you were supposed to pay
Speaker 1: you as the basketball officionado?
Speaker 2: I just what do we what do we fun?
Speaker 1: What are we doing? What are we doing? Man?
Speaker 18: Drop the pipe? Crack is whack? Stop doing though we
Speaker 18: put the bottle down. Whatever you're using, stop it.
Speaker 5: Please, for the.
Speaker 1: Love of God, stop it.
Speaker 4: Get some help.
Speaker 1: Thank god you have a screen name. Your government was
Speaker 1: out there. I call your family to tell them, I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: What the fuck are we doing? What are we doing? Uh?
Speaker 1: Do you want to get to comment? Though? Before we
Speaker 1: went to break it was do it e forless effortlessly?
Speaker 1: Who says, what word denials the channel because Tobias is
Speaker 1: better than John Cowins, and I think in certain contexts, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could say that, but I also think context matters too,
Speaker 1: where you look at the next situations that Tobias was
Speaker 1: in versus John Collins, like Tobias playing with a stack
Speaker 1: seventy six, or team Tobias playing with a great play
Speaker 1: making point guard, maybe the best play making point guard
Speaker 1: in the league right now in Kate Cunnying, Like, I
Speaker 1: think those set up Tobias for better situations than John
Speaker 1: Collins seen in previous years. I think John Collins is
Speaker 1: every ability to be what Tobias was for us last
Speaker 1: year outside of the mid game. I'm saying those turnaround,
Speaker 1: fade away Tobias's hitting, I won't expect that out of
Speaker 1: John Collins. But remember those were also like desperation shots too,
Speaker 1: because we had no offense, no one else could get
Speaker 1: to you a bucket in certain moments. And that was
Speaker 1: even Kate off the florid Tobias doing those things. John Collins,
Speaker 1: I think it's a forty two three point shooter from
Speaker 1: the corner where Kay Cunyam is gonna feed him. I
Speaker 1: think fit wise John Collins can give you close to
Speaker 1: what Tobias did. I can't. I mean, he gave you
Speaker 1: thirty points of the playoffs. I can't see he tell you
Speaker 1: that John coss is gonna do that for us.
Speaker 2: I look at the things John Collins does better than
Speaker 2: Tobias Harris. One being a lob threat being the pick
Speaker 2: and roll, an actual pick and roll, real option for
Speaker 2: Kate Cunningham and the offense. Two the ability to play
Speaker 2: small ball five, which is something that Tobias couldn't do.
Speaker 2: And then three the shooting efficiencies on open and corner threes.
Speaker 2: He was about a ten percent better three point shooter
Speaker 2: than Tobias Harris on open three point attempts and about
Speaker 2: a five percent better three point shooter than Tobias Harris
Speaker 2: on corner three point attempts. On top of that, I
Speaker 2: think he is a more versatile and more athletic defender
Speaker 2: which JB. Bickerstaff will get the best out of. I
Speaker 2: think we saw Tobias Harris putting great defense on Karl
Speaker 2: Anthony Towns in the playoffs under JB. Bickerstaff, I think
Speaker 2: he will get even that that even more out of
Speaker 2: a John Collins. Now, is he a no doubt improvement
Speaker 2: from Tobias Harris. No, I mean it's it's kind of
Speaker 2: a linear move. I think he does a little bit
Speaker 2: better things to fit with the Pistons need maybe, but
Speaker 2: that's still that is a reserve or that is dependent
Speaker 2: on them getting another shot creator as well, because Tobias
Speaker 2: was your second best shot creator last season, so that
Speaker 2: part will be missed. But I think they both do
Speaker 2: thing like if you want to argue ones better than
Speaker 2: the other. Again, I'm not gonna freak out either way.
Speaker 2: I think I think John Collins is younger, more versatile,
Speaker 2: and is a better open three point shooter than.
Speaker 1: Tobias and ten million dollars less. Yeah, that's that's why
Speaker 1: you do with John Collins. And and Tobias said too
Speaker 1: like at some point maybe some of the conversations were
Speaker 1: he wants to go in a ring sunst one down.
Speaker 1: He said that when he departed, did he not that
Speaker 1: I want to play with the organization this series? But
Speaker 1: winning championships were just in the finals.
Speaker 4: Yeah, things aligned for him.
Speaker 3: And I'm not tripping about the obiason because I think
Speaker 3: he's gonna do one or two years to San Antonio,
Speaker 3: and I think he's gonna be right back here.
Speaker 1: I truly do.
Speaker 3: I think that he there comes a point in time
Speaker 3: where he will take a pay cut to be a
Speaker 3: Detroit Piston. It just wasn't this time. Because I can't
Speaker 3: blame him. He got an offer on the table that
Speaker 3: met his needs and gave him the ability to chase
Speaker 3: the championship. Can't be mad at that. The other though,
Speaker 3: John Collins is just better, Okay, I mean he's I mean,
Speaker 3: you guys said most of it. I mean better, better
Speaker 3: corner three point shooter, more versatile as an offensive as
Speaker 3: an offensive weapon. Obviously, he doesn't have the shot creation
Speaker 3: that Tobias has. So you know, if and that's obviously
Speaker 3: a clear value that the Pistons need. So assuming that
Speaker 3: the Pistons address that at some point in this next
Speaker 3: calendar year, then the Pistons will be better off with
Speaker 3: John Collins then they will be with Tobias Harris today.
Speaker 3: Because you got to remember, too, Tobias was at that
Speaker 3: age where any offseason he could slip. Remember how rough
Speaker 3: he looked to start at the beginning of the year,
Speaker 3: like he was, he was really rough, and he came
Speaker 3: on strong, and you know, and he he fixed it
Speaker 3: and he played his best basketball when it mattered, so
Speaker 3: shout out to him. But you know, at the beginning
Speaker 3: of the season he looked cooked. So this was in
Speaker 3: This was an all around upgrade. But yes, the context
Speaker 3: is you need other shot creating to go with it
Speaker 3: in order to say that it is a complete home run.
Speaker 1: Better than Tobias Harris Kobe saying that tomorrow three and
Speaker 1: three Kobe, that is shout out for listening. Appreciate you,
Speaker 1: uh appreciate your contributions although they're absolutely fucking trash. Do
Speaker 1: you not? I mean, I just I don't believe you
Speaker 1: know basketball? Yes, by the individual stat numbers. You could
Speaker 1: sit there and tell me tomor de Rose is better
Speaker 1: than Tobias Hairs John Conns about fits for this team.
Speaker 1: If your goals win basketball games, DeMar De Rozens is
Speaker 1: third on that list. Every single fucking time, clogging up
Speaker 1: the spacing, can't shoot from three?
Speaker 2: Like, what what do we like?
Speaker 1: Do not watch basketball? Do we just look at oh
Speaker 1: toy points per game? Throw them in there, that'll win.
Speaker 1: Do you know remember what the Phenix Suns name with KD,
Speaker 1: Devin Booker and Bradley Beal. That's what you're asking for.
Speaker 1: Almost twenty points a game per piece. That that's an
Speaker 1: easy championship team, is it not? No, because it don't fit.
Speaker 1: They don't fit on the court. Just this, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, these these two k generation, the
Speaker 1: old people.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: What's going on in the chat today? Is it? Is
Speaker 1: it the butt virus that's going around. I got everybody
Speaker 1: literally shipping their brains out because they are talking dumb
Speaker 1: as fuck. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2: Ninety point.
Speaker 1: I love you, and I love I love the contribution
Speaker 1: to Chat, but when I'm not gonna see here pretending
Speaker 1: like the Martha rose is a better fit for this
Speaker 1: team or fit at all for this team than John
Speaker 1: cons or Tobias Harris. I mean, check the check record.
Speaker 1: What is Demarga Roseen done in the past five years
Speaker 1: in the playoffs? Yes, actually been in the playoffs because
Speaker 1: it just play winning basketball.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's card Rosen is not four. He's
Speaker 2: definitely not a four and a good team ship man.
Speaker 3: Like it's f it's frustrating, but I think that I
Speaker 3: I think that you can again, you can look at
Speaker 3: this offseason and say, okay, Trajan, you did everything you
Speaker 3: needed except the obviously the most important thing, but you
Speaker 3: tried your ass off doing it. And I you know,
Speaker 3: I don't want to give anybody pad on the backs
Speaker 3: because pad in the backs don't bring championships, but I do.
Speaker 3: I do think you can look at this offseason and
Speaker 3: there's no reason to lose faith in Trajan like I
Speaker 3: I I can't see that. I can't see how this
Speaker 3: off this offseason did anything but increase faith in Trajan.
Speaker 3: Would you guys agree or disagree with that?
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't say it increased the faith in him
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: I think it would. I think it stayed the same
Speaker 2: at the very least, or lessened your faith in him.
Speaker 2: I think it.
Speaker 3: I think it increased it because I point, I point
Speaker 3: to move. It's like tough moves that typical gms in town.
Speaker 3: And you agree with me when I said this that
Speaker 3: the gms in town weren't Ay.
Speaker 2: But I'm not basing him off of other gms in town.
Speaker 2: I'm basing him off other gms in the NBA. And no,
Speaker 2: i'd nothing that he's done this year really like, maybe
Speaker 2: it didn't make me any feel any worse about him either,
Speaker 2: But I can't be like oh, look what he did
Speaker 2: for Isaiah Joe. He's the top five GM in the sport. Like, No,
Speaker 2: I still need him to do something that we can judge,
Speaker 2: something of real substance, and he hasn't.
Speaker 1: Day Jesus, y'all chasing off new viewers. Listen, brother, I said,
Speaker 1: thank you for your contributions. I appreciate him. I do.
Speaker 1: I'm just responding to him. People want to talk shit,
Speaker 1: I can talk shit back.
Speaker 5: This is America, America.
Speaker 1: What the fuck were doing? Danny g you guys, comrade,
Speaker 1: dumb shit you want? If it's dumb, I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: it dumb, of course, is my opinion. Obviously you think
Speaker 1: it's brilliant stuff. I think it's fucking dumb. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna pretend like it's it's I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. But I do appreciate him in the
Speaker 1: chat though, I do. I'm just responding to it, that's all.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 3: I know you were locked in with that. But my
Speaker 3: question of like, because.
Speaker 1: A big ignored it, I think that wants why he's
Speaker 1: common in. No, that's a fair argument.
Speaker 3: I asked Spencer when it came to Trajan like this
Speaker 3: offseason because there are the people that you know kind.
Speaker 4: Of are upset with him.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's nothing this offseason he's done that
Speaker 3: could have lost you faith. I think, if anything, it
Speaker 3: probably stayed the same or you gained it. I gained
Speaker 3: a little bit of faith just because of the aggressiveness.
Speaker 4: That I saw from him.
Speaker 3: What aggressiveness, I mean the fact that he was reported
Speaker 3: to everybody, to everybody. I know that that again, pat
Speaker 3: on the backs don't get championships. I fully understand that.
Speaker 3: But I think that I think that scene that at
Speaker 3: least gave me a little bit more reassurance that he done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's I'm not increasing my thought of it,
Speaker 2: your faith. He hasn't done anything yet of real substance.
Speaker 2: He's done a good job replacing pieces. He's done a
Speaker 2: good job fitting the roster around kid, which again we
Speaker 2: shouldn't be like applauding that, like that should be basic
Speaker 2: GM one oh one is to fit your roster around
Speaker 2: your superstar six to seven point god, Like it should
Speaker 2: be pretty easy to do. I know, you know, Troy
Speaker 2: Weaver really struggled with that one, and so did Monty Williams.
Speaker 2: But he's done a good job of not fucking up.
Speaker 2: I will say that he's done a good job of
Speaker 2: adding marginal pieces, but I will not be swayed one
Speaker 2: way or another until I have an actual move of
Speaker 2: substance that I can judge fair.
Speaker 1: That's fair shot to denas he says. At age twenty two,
Speaker 1: Jalen Dirridge nine Jana during average nineteen and a half points,
Speaker 1: ten and a half rebounds at eleven and a half
Speaker 1: shots per game. Conversely, at the same age, Mari Stodamer
Speaker 1: average twenty six points. It's like that feels like a
Speaker 1: big fucking difference. But twenty six points and eight point
Speaker 1: nine rebounds on sixteen field goal tempts. I know ball,
Speaker 1: but the go find a clause and sit in it.
Speaker 1: Don't even turn leave the light off. You need to
Speaker 1: be alone your thoughts and work that one out.
Speaker 2: So yours better. But again again and yeah. And the
Speaker 2: end result is he doesn't deserve the contract either way,
Speaker 2: because Imri Stottenmeyer got paid and never won a championship,
Speaker 2: So like, what are you fighting for.
Speaker 8: That?
Speaker 2: Even if it were right, it's the wrong result.
Speaker 1: Fight for somebody else's pockets is crazy. Unscrew the light bulb.
Speaker 1: Make sure there's no lights there's a deprivation tank. All right,
Speaker 1: just sit in the darkness alone for a little bit
Speaker 1: and just just work your way through that one. Please.
Speaker 1: We love you, Tanaj. I want you to be better.
Speaker 1: I really do.
Speaker 18: Well.
Speaker 2: That's Spencer needs a high price Sham's bomb to judge.
Speaker 2: Not the yearly growth of the basketball team. No, the
Speaker 2: yearly growth of the basketball team has shown me what
Speaker 2: I've agreed with Trajan and why I like tration and
Speaker 2: why I said he's the second best GM in this town.
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna bust my nut over John Collins, Like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck are you talking about? Has what he's
Speaker 2: done this offseason made you say, you know what, he's
Speaker 2: the best GM in basketball? No, it shouldn't. He hasn't
Speaker 2: done anything that's big enough to sway that this offseason.
Speaker 2: The growth that he's shown is why I already believe
Speaker 2: of him as what he is. You guys just fucking
Speaker 2: say shit.
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Speaker 1: So far, you guys are picking Pistons. Boona recommended the
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Speaker 3: Absolutely you what you said, DeMar Deroz?
Speaker 1: It breaks you know space? It what about Ben Simmons space?
Speaker 3: He is going to be on the floor with one,
Speaker 3: if not two, of Ron Holland a Star, Tompson or
Speaker 3: Jalen during at all times. That is a terrible fit.
Speaker 3: I get that. I get that he sees that there
Speaker 3: could be some value Ben Simmons, although I actually don't
Speaker 3: really even agree with that because I mean, the guy
Speaker 3: was just like, I don't think he's I don't think
Speaker 3: he's able to handle the bright lights of basketball.
Speaker 1: But even if he is, even if.
Speaker 3: I give him that grace, the fit on this team,
Speaker 3: especially this would be the worst fit for Ben Simmons
Speaker 3: in the NBA.
Speaker 4: What would be a worst fit?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, Demarto Rosen.
Speaker 3: The Kings would be great because they don't have no
Speaker 3: televised games, no pressure.
Speaker 1: My thing. But the thing with Ben Simmons, and then
Speaker 1: you were hard person, right. I was gonna make maybe
Speaker 1: an argument for it, but I just listen to you.
Speaker 1: Thank god you went first. I will say that I'm
Speaker 1: out Ben can create for all the guys. I'm saying
Speaker 1: that like he But again, like you said, though the
Speaker 1: older guys can't shoot, the other guys with them can
Speaker 1: only operate the rim as well. So it's like you
Speaker 1: are correct, and Ben Simmons doesn't even shoot.
Speaker 3: Like remember, yeah, I just like I I guess I'll
Speaker 3: root for Ben Simmons as a player to come back
Speaker 3: and you know, have success in the NBA. Sure you're
Speaker 3: a fishing champion. I thought you would have just went on,
Speaker 3: you know, just trying to defend your legacy there. But
Speaker 3: welcome back to the NBA, Buddy Wish you the best.
Speaker 2: And shout out in the chat to where is it
Speaker 2: LM three one three, one to three? Uh high spending
Speaker 2: big fan? Is Stephen Wolf in your top fifteen lines
Speaker 2: of all time? I'd have to put him up there.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: He hits the gap really hard. H He's a very versatible,
Speaker 2: very versatile player, long girthy. Yeah, Stephen Wolf. He definitely
Speaker 2: fucks the competition. That's Johnny since real name. I had
Speaker 2: to google it. I didn't just know that offhand.
Speaker 1: But alright, alright, you really take a pound it out there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: really take a pound it out there. No, I don't
Speaker 1: want Ben's like, oh my.
Speaker 2: God, I'd rather have de Martin de Rosen off off
Speaker 2: the top three and three?
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
Speaker 10: Y'all?
Speaker 1: Dog de Rosen will say Ben Simmons. We didn't say
Speaker 1: no top somewhere earlier. He clearly all said no.
Speaker 2: I absolutely do not want Ben Simmons anywhere near my
Speaker 2: team or locker room. He sucks. Uh, he's he's a
Speaker 2: mental midget, let alone, not shooting threes. He can't make
Speaker 2: shots period, like it's like a sar but not good
Speaker 2: at defense.
Speaker 3: No, no, thank you, Let's bring yeah, let's bring Ben
Speaker 3: Simmons to the dog pound. Right, Let's let's bring him
Speaker 3: around all these junkyard dogs.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: That fits, That's a great fit.
Speaker 5: Let's do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that. How about it? Shot?
Speaker 1: And see he's uh, he's preaching preaching the patience for Trajan,
Speaker 1: and I just I'm with you with the progression that
Speaker 1: it's been there for sure, and some of it has
Speaker 1: been like some obvious ship like getting Ky to stretch forward.
Speaker 1: That's I don't know why our boy where it was
Speaker 1: so far against it, you know what I'm saying. That's
Speaker 1: a simple fix. The thing is, And I know you
Speaker 1: listened to Cool as well. We've had cooland show recently
Speaker 1: who had opened a broadcast of the Pisson's window as
Speaker 1: up to twenty twenty nine. Because when you do pay
Speaker 1: a SR, you do resign kid. Under the current CBA,
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna have a lot of space to go
Speaker 1: grab someone and go get it like you do right now.
Speaker 1: And the other situation too, with the opportunity to go
Speaker 1: get it right now is your competition. The Raptors, the
Speaker 1: seventy six ers, the Cleveland Cavaliers would just beat you.
Speaker 1: They all took leaps this offseason outside of the casts.
Speaker 1: I'm always see the cast because I'm predicting Lebron James
Speaker 1: probably goes. But they already beat you anyway, right they
Speaker 1: smoked you out in the playoffs. It's got it is
Speaker 1: right now, it is right now. I got time to
Speaker 1: wait till K twenty seven under the current CBA. I
Speaker 1: so think it's gonna work out that way. In my
Speaker 1: personal opinion, active pay a SAR after pay Kid whoever
Speaker 1: else doll online to like. I just, I just I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I don't see it that way, especially
Speaker 1: with the SAR kind of really offering you one side
Speaker 1: of the court right now. With all due respect to him,
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope you know by now I love
Speaker 1: Usar Thompson. I fought too the nail for him against
Speaker 1: a guy Nick. It's just you gotta get it before
Speaker 1: that twenty twenty nine. Yep, That's is where I'm at
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're seeing it now, these windows for you know,
Speaker 3: I think it was you that said five years. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't even know if you can have a five
Speaker 3: year window anymore unless one of your best players is
Speaker 3: on a rookie contract. That's the only way you can
Speaker 3: this is the NFL. Now you are in a constant
Speaker 3: state of two to three years. You get your shot,
Speaker 3: that's it, and then you gotta retool and figure out
Speaker 3: some shit Like That's what's gonna happen right now to
Speaker 3: the New York Knicks after this year, they're gonna have
Speaker 3: to figure some stuff out. Yeah, they're gonna have to
Speaker 3: figure some stuff out. They're gonna have to reset, rebuild
Speaker 3: your brunts.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna take another pick cut.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Boston. You've seen that. They just said, all right, we
Speaker 3: gotta reset our future. We gotta shuffle the decks here
Speaker 3: like I it's this is the new NBA is that
Speaker 3: every two to three years. Uh, you know there's going
Speaker 3: to be there's going to be new contenders formed, and
Speaker 3: you know you're gonna have to be able to win
Speaker 3: on the margins with smart contracts, you know, rookie contracts
Speaker 3: contributing high levels.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: Because the only way k during in the Star are
Speaker 3: together pat in the year twenty thirty is if they
Speaker 3: have another player on a rookie contract that is one
Speaker 3: of the best players. That's the only way, that's the
Speaker 3: only way you'd keep them past twenty thirty together.
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Speaker 1: have multiple topics. The one I think I'm most excited
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Speaker 1: have the roster rankings, you know, I mean we also
Speaker 1: have a little Rostel Douglas did each lin. Where would
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Speaker 10: I like my dessert before my vegetables.
Speaker 2: That's a quote from the Rock and one of the
Speaker 2: Fast and Furious movies. We got good but good news
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Speaker 10: You know, I like my dessert before my vegetables.
Speaker 1: Why did you give them Southern axe?
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's got like kind of a southern accent in those movies.
Speaker 1: I love the Rock and some awful actor though that's fair.
Speaker 1: The rocks literally only got like two good movies.
Speaker 6: He looks prettydiculous. That's like a live action.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love them.
Speaker 2: I love the Rockets a person and as a wrestler,
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Speaker 1: Which which one of these topics? Is you just the
Speaker 1: running backs, let's go. Yeah, that's what I'm saying too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So ESPN they do this every year, or at least
Speaker 1: the last two years I could I could speak on
Speaker 1: for sure. Is it get an anonymous executives, coaches, scouts
Speaker 1: from around the NFL and they have them fill in
Speaker 1: their top ten whatever position. Uh. This year, the first
Speaker 1: one to come out was the running backs. Now the
Speaker 1: running back list, Jamiir Gibbs was in the top three,
Speaker 1: but he was not three, and he was not one, so.
Speaker 4: It's the top three.
Speaker 2: So the top three you have their Bijon Robinson, Jamiir Gibbs,
Speaker 2: and Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 1: I've always called Jah a top three running back.
Speaker 6: I don't think anyone's disagreeing with that top three like
Speaker 6: like I mean like the not order, but like those are.
Speaker 1: The those names that's fair. Could I I could? Could
Speaker 1: you make it a debate for Chritian McCaffrey.
Speaker 6: Though, No, he's injured way too much and he almost
Speaker 6: doesn't even like play a running back position.
Speaker 7: I feel like.
Speaker 1: He's like Anna everything. He's like a He's kind of
Speaker 1: wanna want job him because alepon he's he's a lepond.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 1: B John Robinson raked over Jamiir Gibbs. Is that wrong er? Right?
Speaker 6: I think they're one A one D like. I think
Speaker 6: it's so cool.
Speaker 2: I think it's right. I think I think b Jhon
Speaker 2: Robinson is the best running back in the league, and
Speaker 2: I think he is a better all around running back
Speaker 2: than Jamior Gibbs. I think Jamiir Gibbs is a better weapon.
Speaker 2: I think he's more explosive. I think when you look
Speaker 2: at if I need one play to take it to
Speaker 2: the house, I would lean to Jamior Gibbs. But when
Speaker 2: I'm talking about who's a better running back pound for pound,
Speaker 2: I do think it's b Jhon Robinson. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's by a lot, but I think he has more
Speaker 2: success running between the numbers. I think, uh he's more
Speaker 2: hard to take down as the first tackler the first
Speaker 2: I'll say the first point of contact, yeah, because Jamier
Speaker 2: Gibbs is hard to take down with one guy. But
Speaker 2: I think when contact is put on you, I think
Speaker 2: Bijon Robinson is harder to take down. So I would
Speaker 2: lean Bijon over Jamiir, but with you, but I think
Speaker 2: it is pretty close because as much as the between
Speaker 2: the tackle stuff and the the fighting through contact stuff
Speaker 2: does favor Bijon Robinson, this game is about scoring touchdowns
Speaker 2: and nobody has scored more touchdowns at the running back
Speaker 2: position than Jamier Gibbs since he's come into the league.
Speaker 2: That guy is a game breaker. And that too, like
Speaker 2: what's better You give the ball the guy or give
Speaker 2: a ball to a guy five times and he gets
Speaker 2: you five yards every time, or you give the ball
Speaker 2: to the guy five times and on one of those
Speaker 2: he takes it for sixty. So I'll like Bijon has
Speaker 2: that capability. Well, he is a very you know, he's
Speaker 2: an explosive back in his own right, but Jamiir Gibbs
Speaker 2: is lightning personified. And if you want to choose one
Speaker 2: or the other, I'm not gonna be mad at you, Seth.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I said this last year. I call heat for it
Speaker 1: from Detroit Lions fans, as I expected because I'm going
Speaker 1: against the Detroit Lion here, but Bijon, although then they like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you want to take a political way out, one A,
Speaker 1: one B.
Speaker 6: For sure, I think Bjon's a little bit better.
Speaker 1: For sure. I think he's got a better contact balance.
Speaker 1: I think he's got a deeper bag of moves. I
Speaker 1: think he's better in between the tackles, and so far
Speaker 1: he's been a better receiver as well. And I think
Speaker 1: Jamiir Gibbs, yeah, you point to the touchdowns for sure,
Speaker 1: but he's also got a better situation going for him too,
Speaker 1: and wide receivers that block down the field in the
Speaker 1: scenario too. Like I think Gibbs been blessed with a
Speaker 1: better scenario than Bejon Robinson. That's why you see some
Speaker 1: of the production there and actually put up the production.
Speaker 1: I think we have the numbers one to be one
Speaker 1: right there and Bejon more carries. But I think if
Speaker 1: he gave Gibbs as many carries as Bijeon, you probably
Speaker 1: get right around the same yards per carrier, yards per attempt,
Speaker 1: I should say, but Bejeon better wide receiver. Uh, but
Speaker 1: it's thin be. I think Gibbs you get a little
Speaker 1: bit more of a home run factor, which I think
Speaker 1: Skywalker's gonna not do there and all around right now,
Speaker 1: if I had to pick it.
Speaker 6: Is, Yeah, Jehann is way better between the tackles. Yes,
Speaker 6: that's just like that's the one thing for me that
Speaker 6: just sets him a little bit more above Gibbs. I
Speaker 6: think if you're running like a sweet player or something
Speaker 6: like that, I probably would prefer Jamier just because he's
Speaker 6: got that explosive fast speed. But as an all around back,
Speaker 6: just everything that you take a look at it for
Speaker 6: a back, Bijon is probably better. And like I like
Speaker 6: Gibbs a lot. I think he fits for his team,
Speaker 6: but Bijon just has that just a little bit more
Speaker 6: so Gibbs.
Speaker 3: Do you think though that be or that Gibbs is
Speaker 3: a better fit here in Detroit than than Bejeon would be,
Speaker 3: or you just or would you just take the better
Speaker 3: about pound for pound running back understanding the context.
Speaker 2: I think last year you could say Gibbs would be
Speaker 2: a better fit in Detroit than Bijeon would be. But
Speaker 2: now when you're looking at lead back status, I think
Speaker 2: Bijon has the ability to carry the lead back better
Speaker 2: than the strong Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean he's a little bit more powerful when he
Speaker 1: runs and and he bounces off the guy. He's got
Speaker 1: the he got great contact bounce.
Speaker 2: I do think Gibbs will be fine as the lead back.
Speaker 2: I think he might be the number one back in
Speaker 2: football this year based off of offense and and what
Speaker 2: you know. I think the Lions offense is going to
Speaker 2: be much better than the Atlanta Falcons offense. But they're
Speaker 2: gonna feed Bijon as they should.
Speaker 1: What are we doing voting? David tis the best?
Speaker 2: W W what are we doing?
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Speaker 1: It's Johnson about mile. I'm fucking oh, it's a disappointed.
Speaker 6: What's going on is literally just comedic relief.
Speaker 1: He's great. I mean he's the whole comedic relief because
Speaker 1: it can't so we're gonna be the one line best role.
Speaker 6: I can't think off the top because it's not good.
Speaker 6: He's in more like serious roles.
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Speaker 1: the one with the one girl. I'm terrible with actors names.
Speaker 1: By the way, she's kind of pludging. She's a comedian.
Speaker 1: He was great in that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in Dune, but he screams and he runs
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Speaker 1: It's John's okay, all right, I'm sorry, Chat, we're forming
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Speaker 1: I'll watch that tonight. Entring shut off, Freddy Felt, You're
Speaker 1: a fucking g thank you. Sorry, jam Gibbs. Again, it's
Speaker 1: it's very thin. But yeah, but by the way, our
Speaker 1: guys a top three conversation legitimately now last year three
Speaker 1: this year too. I mean, I think we've all known
Speaker 1: he's had that capability, and I'd say this too. This
Speaker 1: year he's gonna be a lead back. Sure, I feel
Speaker 1: like he was a lead back last year. That's what
Speaker 1: Dave Montgomery wanted us.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 1: It's it's just and it's not a bad thing to
Speaker 1: be arguing. I don't anybody get pissed off about this.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you josh player a sure, go for it.
Speaker 1: But I just I think we should be happy that
Speaker 1: our guys even the conversations. Yeah, a validation there.
Speaker 2: No, it just proves like how elite the Lions roster
Speaker 2: really is, and that we take for granted that we
Speaker 2: have multiple players in multiple different positions groups inarguably at
Speaker 2: the very least top five at their position. Like when
Speaker 2: when you look at linebacker, edge, wide receiver, running back,
Speaker 2: tight end, when healthy, safety, like you've got some of
Speaker 2: the best talent in the league, and Jamiir Gibbs is
Speaker 2: probably the most exciting player to watch in the NFL
Speaker 2: outside of maybe his teammate Jamison Williams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jimy gives probably the number one for me. He
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing the one running back on your list, Skywalker
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he just said that.
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Speaker 1: Can we get some funny stories? The last couple of
Speaker 1: minutes twin m I got one that I'm at clean
Speaker 1: up for the air. I almost said it last week,
Speaker 1: but I was like nineteen. I got this girl. She's
Speaker 1: driving like an hour out and we're just you know,
Speaker 1: we're doing what you do at nineteen and but she
Speaker 1: was like the first girl that like I could like
Speaker 1: experiment with i'd like do like some shot. I sy
Speaker 1: the movies. Yeah, you know, put your leg here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll put your legs there, slap you here, slap you there.
Speaker 1: And so you know, one night we're going at it
Speaker 1: great time.
Speaker 6: And I believe this story.
Speaker 1: I decided to I've seen the movie again. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying things out of there. She's learning everything, everything, everything's
Speaker 1: flying so far. I think. But two things, and this
Speaker 1: is the first thing. Is I spat on her. I
Speaker 1: spit on her. I see the movies, So what happens.
Speaker 1: She slapped the funk out of me, But we kept going,
Speaker 1: so I don't know if I don't know if it
Speaker 1: worked out. And that's a funny story I wanted to share.
Speaker 1: I always want to say there.
Speaker 2: There was one time that this was in East Lanching.
Speaker 1: It was ringing.
Speaker 2: Ship. My boys came up. It was like I think
Speaker 2: it was Halloween or something, and we were partying and
Speaker 2: my boy Mustache wrestled in high school and he's he's
Speaker 2: good at wrestling, but he's he's a smaller guy than
Speaker 2: me and I had never wrestled, so we were pretty
Speaker 2: evenly matched and we were going at it like and
Speaker 2: the on the front lawn of this house party, like
Speaker 2: violently wrestling each other.
Speaker 1: And uh niggas making love the house. Like the owner
Speaker 1: of the house comes over and he's like, oh, you.
Speaker 2: Guys gotta get out of here. Man like like, come on,
Speaker 2: just stop, just leave, go to the We stopped. I
Speaker 2: look at him dead in his eyes. I was like,
Speaker 2: you're next, and then we just continued wrestling, and he
Speaker 2: walked away and didn't say anything to us for the
Speaker 2: rest of the party.
Speaker 1: One time I was at Central Michigan the Halloween party.
Speaker 1: I forget the name of the house. It was like
Speaker 1: a known house at the CMU, and I'm fucking wasted.
Speaker 1: There's no railings of the porch. I may have sold
Speaker 1: this one already on the air, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: but I uh, I stepped on this girl's shoe, you know,
Speaker 1: being a drunk ass, and our boyfriend shoved me, and
Speaker 1: there's no railing on the porch, so I flew up
Speaker 1: the porch. My entire football team is at this party
Speaker 1: at CMU. We got scrappers, you know, Tyler Conkley and
Speaker 1: Craig Craig and so uh Craig you know, he's never
Speaker 1: won to spare words, he's just throwing pun So we
Speaker 1: just got to fucking big ass brawl. I'm fucking the
Speaker 1: girls up, falling off the porch too. We're both and
Speaker 1: then she's like me, I'm holding her and we're just
Speaker 1: watching everything. I'm not even fighting, dude, I'm just watching
Speaker 1: everything going down. My boy gains shot gains games. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, big dt big dude. Uh you know, people
Speaker 1: sacked their pants, Gains in the middle of the street,
Speaker 1: pants down to his fucking oh ass, fucking sitting there
Speaker 1: going back.
Speaker 2: And forth, Yeah, with this dude.
Speaker 1: And I just sat there and watched the whole tire
Speaker 1: time with that guy's girlfriend. I was just fucking. I
Speaker 1: was fucking. I was wasted.
Speaker 2: I was at this one party and something similar happened.
Speaker 2: This is a high school party, and.
Speaker 1: Uh shot the crack by the way, real one for
Speaker 1: had my back.
Speaker 2: Like somebody you know, got too drunk. One of my
Speaker 2: he was a friend of mine. He was like one
Speaker 2: of my boys. But like you know, I went to
Speaker 2: a small school, so you pretty much know everybody, and
Speaker 2: he was a friend of mine. He was super like
Speaker 2: blacked out and he I don't know, like same kind
Speaker 2: of thing like bumped into some of these girls something
Speaker 2: and some guy like stuck him right away, and my
Speaker 2: boy TJ just immediately on ten boom starts beating his
Speaker 2: dude's ass. They fall through the front porch, like the
Speaker 2: gate of it in the lawn, beating his dude's ass,
Speaker 2: and like, me and all my other boys are like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, we're riping it up.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 2: We hear somebody say no.
Speaker 1: Fuck that pop the trunk.
Speaker 5: We're like, oh fuck fu.
Speaker 2: We just immediately start dipping. Everybody's running different areas. I'm
Speaker 2: running trying to get to my boy stashed his car,
Speaker 2: who me and TJ came with. We're all running in
Speaker 2: the middle of street. My sandal comes off in the
Speaker 2: middle of street. I wore these Jordan slides religiously, literally
Speaker 2: every day for like a five year period, like they
Speaker 2: were my favorite article of clothing. I was like, I'm
Speaker 2: going back for it. I turn around. I see him
Speaker 2: reaching into the trunk. I was like, damn, I might
Speaker 2: die over this Jordan slide. He pulls out a baseball bat.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, like the fuck and so yeah.
Speaker 2: So then I mean he's still he like runs at me.
Speaker 2: But now I have the whole confidence in my mind,
Speaker 2: like I can eat a baseball bat. Like if I
Speaker 2: get hit with a baseball bat, whatever, you know, it's
Speaker 2: not getting shot. I'm running. I grabbed the sandal. He
Speaker 2: swings the bat. I pull back and go ship like
Speaker 2: right by my face, turn around, dip, we get out
Speaker 2: of there. It was yeah, but I was subconsciously willing
Speaker 2: to die over over Jordan's slide.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Last one. Yeah, and this we may have told
Speaker 1: this one too, but my birthday four years ago, three
Speaker 1: years ago. Uh, we went all, had a good time,
Speaker 1: went to the preseason game. Then we went to this
Speaker 1: this trip club. After everyone's like, where's the after hours,
Speaker 1: where's the at the hours? I'm talking to strippers and
Speaker 1: my words, where's the after hours? And they give us
Speaker 1: a couple of dresses. The first one we go to
Speaker 1: the open bottle slide door like one hundred dollars person.
Speaker 1: We turn right around. Yep, said fuck you, granted we
Speaker 1: beat the strippers there, I get it. They didn't want more, Yeah,
Speaker 1: saying that's all right, but completely fits fair. Second spot,
Speaker 1: not too many cars parked around. Yeah, kind of dark,
Speaker 1: you don't hear any music. But it's the address.
Speaker 2: The address she gave me.
Speaker 1: I'm we're going in and we're gonna wait for the
Speaker 1: other strippers to come and we have a great, great night,
Speaker 1: and were getting there and what I can only assume
Speaker 1: is too homeless man watching friends watching friends, ty food
Speaker 1: e TI food on a big screen. By the way,
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't know what the is
Speaker 1: going on? Uh five dudes, by the way, my man
Speaker 1: gets up, has a fucking forty five on him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pulls out.
Speaker 1: There's no party here tonight, boys.
Speaker 5: All right, yeah, alright, fuck, no problem, we got it.
Speaker 5: No party.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: We should have jumped up and took his gun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should have jump and took the typhood? How
Speaker 1: did forget I'd be enough? I mean, I was scared,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't that scared. I just felt like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was doing what he had to do, was five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't want to shoot.
Speaker 1: He's homeless. You don't get tye food often, you know,
Speaker 1: you had to product.
Speaker 3: I was, I was, I was far by, I was behind.
Speaker 3: I was far behind. But I was like, I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: well all right, this just isn't the spot. I was
Speaker 3: I was more like, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Chris, Yeah, they bumping the Chris walking out or bumping
Speaker 1: the Chris or Matt walking out, like what's going on?
Speaker 2: Get Yeah. It was the biggest dudes in the front too,
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't like I said, he didn't want
Speaker 2: to shoot anybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could tell he was more so like get
Speaker 1: get you. Yeah, this is my typhoon mother, this is
Speaker 1: my friend's night.
Speaker 2: Well that'll do it for us today. Appreciate you'all tapping
Speaker 2: and make she smash that like button for Easy, for Skywalker,
Speaker 2: for Chris. I'm Spencer. We are the heavyweights and we'll
Speaker 2: catch you boys tomorrow and ladies tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Peace.