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Speaker 2: Now here is your host, DJ Leaves. All right, we

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Speaker 2: The Orange will be on tonight, So check that out again.

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Weekend YouTube page as well. Subscribe up there. The Baduo

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Jack interview is up there right now. The video portion

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of the interview. We have the audio here on the

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pod feed. We got multiple ways to hear ray Field

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and see Rayfield doing his work, So Badu Jack let

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that segways perfectly go see him on the YouTube page

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and you're gonna see him on pay per view. We

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got to get into that for a little second. Two

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after we talk about the fight on how they can

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see the fight, Baduo Jack and Noel McLean are coming

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up in a rematch on Friday night. You talked to

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Badu Jack about this fight that is for the WBC

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Cruiserweight Championship. Here we go, now fight wee can in

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Lah tell me a little more about what you think,

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what you think will happen. Very close decision in fight

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one earlier this year in Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, looks an It's an even ish type of matchup.

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I mean, if you go back to the fight in

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May in Saudi Arabia, was on the undercard when Cano

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Alvarez had the very forgettable, miserable fight against William Skull,

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weird time, as we discussed before they fought in you know,

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the hours of the morning, you know, four three, four

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in the morning, very weird for any athlete to be

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at their best at that moment, even though I know

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they knew that was happening. So a lot of the

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people that were on that show, were preparing in that

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type of timeframe when they were doing their training and

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that type of thing. But now we're in like normal time.

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a normal you know, in the evening, so that that

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can't be an excuse for the performance. But in the end,

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when they fought the first time, it was a very

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close fight. In the end it was it was a

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by due Jack retaining the title. The scores were one

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fifteen to one thirteen on two score cards, one fourteen

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to one fourteen on the third card. Some people thought

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that McCallan should have been the rightful winner. To his credit,

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he closed pretty strong in the fight and uh and

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that I think led some people to believe that he

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had done enough to win. It was my particular view

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that Badu Jack had done enough, at least in the

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as he had been early on, that he had still

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put enough away to eke it out probably like seven

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to five type of fight. You know, he believes he

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clearly won, that he's much better. You know what, fighter

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doesn't say that off the close victory. So but mckelean

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was happening, I should say, in any event, So that's

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what's taking place. But as opposed to being for a

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lot of money that they probably were paid because it

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promoter interest in the fight. But they had problems making

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a deal between the dude Jack, who you know was

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promotion anymore. But it went to the per s bit

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interview the Wildest Shit in the World, TJ, they they

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tied at the perspect Yes, the exact amount of money

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two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and so the WBC

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another bid, and it was the Los Angeles promoter Steve

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his partner, that has the money. They bid you know,

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a touch more like I think they were over three

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hundred thousand. They won the purspet. So they're doing this

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fight but without having specific ties in the long term

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with either of the boxers. They're just hoping to roll

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the dice, make enough money to pay everybody to you know,

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reap the reward of whatever they sell in tickets, whatever

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that type of thing. You know, it's taking place in

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a area, you know, where there's a lot of Armenians

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that are from the region. Noel McKellen is Armenian. You know,

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he lives in Florida, but he's Armenian. They put some

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of the you know, the Glendale, California Armenian boxers on

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the show and that type of thing, so, you know,

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it we'll see if they can drum it up. But

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as far as the fight itself goes, look, it's taken

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on more significance than just being for the WBC World

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title because we saw and we'll talk about the result

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in terms of the injuries to the challenger. But with

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and the IBF title. This past Saturday, he has been saying,

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not just after this fight, but after his last several fights,

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he wants a unification fight. Well, he was hoping he

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would get Zerdo Ramirez, but that's not going to happen

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because Zerdo was obligated now has signed assuming he wins

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what is supposed to be a tune up fight next

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month for a big fight against David Dennavidez that will

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take place in May. So if you want to be

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another unification fight and Zerdo has two titles and you

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have the WBC title, you need the other guy with

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the belt. Well, the other guy with the belt is

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the WBC title that is held presently by bid du

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jackin will be held by whoever is the winner of

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the fight. So Opataia is looking very seriously at the

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winner of this fight to potentially make a matchup with

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that I did, and I can't imagine no one mckellian

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doesn't feel the same way. They want to unify the

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titles and Jaiopataia even even in Australia, which is not

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a huge, huge market for boxing, but it's become a

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place where the guys who are from there can make

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some good money. Look, he drew seven thousand people basically

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a sellout at that Brisbane Exhibition Center where he had

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his fight last weekend. That's for a guy that no

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one ever heard of. So the point I'm making is

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if he's in a unification, if they brought it to Australia,

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there'll be some money there. They have sponsorship and they've

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got government backing. And the point is is it's going

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to be a money fight for the winner of Saturday's

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fight and a chance to win the lineal and theb

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of belt.

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Speaker 2: Can I interject too, that we've already seen Turkey Alis

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don't know, read season or something that he gets involved

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with as well with Jack and with open because he's

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been involved with both fighters, so there's a lot on

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the line. Now, what's interesting, I did not realize this

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when you were talking to him. Badou Jack is listed

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at forty two years old.

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Speaker 1: Years old.

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when you start getting to thirty eight, thirty nine, forty

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forty two years old. It is a rematch here, McLean

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listed at thirty five.

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advantage in this. So what is your what is your

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thought on? Are the skills? We don't know? Are the

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skills going to still be the same for Badu Jack

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here in this December rematch.

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Speaker 1: One thing about Jack is for a guy who's forty two,

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he's kept himself in great condition. He's been in a

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couple of tough fights, but he hasn't taken like overt

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punishment or anything like that where you be concerned, let's

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say about his long term health. He's had layoffs where

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he hasn't been getting beaten up or anything like that.

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quality fighter. He was a champion in the super middleweight division.

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has a title now in the cruiserweight division. And there

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was a period of time where he became the in

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recess champion because he was looking to do a fight

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in the WBC's bridgerweight division, trying to think, okay, I

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can win a title in the fourth weight class. Politics

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got involved that. You know, he had ended up with

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a two year layoff, but while he was in recess,

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there was some back and forth and for a brief

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period Mechallion had the title. He was in a beef

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with Don King, like everybody else has been over the years.

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And you know, anyway, now this is like the first fight.

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It was, you know, the future. They're the pass champion

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against the guy that had come back, which they had

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given the bell back to Jack when he came out

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of recess. It is confusing, obviously to get into the neutio,

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but the bottom line is they had a close fight.

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It was a decent fight, and now they have the rematch,

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and I think both guys have something to prove because

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they think they won the first fight. And then you

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throw on top of it, the carrot where whoever is

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the winner will be the champion of the WBC, but

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has a legitimate chance to land a much bigger fight

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for money and prestige with the other belts if they

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can move on and fight the winner, not the winner,

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but fight Opataia. So there that adds some ten.

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Speaker 2: Sure it has an entry, all right, So go over

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for the audience again, how you see it?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, because they're not paying us to say this,

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but if people are interested, it is available. It is

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a pay per view, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's I mean as pay perview. Go I mean,

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it's not an eighty dollars pay per view or whatever.

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But it's like twenty nine to ninety nine, and it's

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on pretty much all your outfits. You can buy it

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on your regular television. It's on PPV dot com, it's

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It's pretty much all over the place, all right. And

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that's the story. So you know, there's not a lot

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of other stuff going on this weekend and people might

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Speaker 2: All right, Now, that is Saturday night in Los Angeles,

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and obviously we'll recap whatever happens in the WBC Cruiserweight

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title fight. Now up the road a few hours in Stockton, California,

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there is a Matchroom de Zone show being headlined by

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a guy that we both enjoy has a big future.

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Apparently in Diego Pacheco. He's in the super middleweight main event.

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I have to lean on my man, Rayphiel. I don't

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know about Kevin Leiley Sajo, that's the opponent. Gabe Flores

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is also on this card from Stockton, California, So tell

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me more first of all about the main event, then

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we'll go over with the undercard.

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Speaker 1: Well, the main event, I find it to be very interesting,

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and maybe it's because I'm one of the few people

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that's actually watched a bunch of Kevin Ley Sadjo fights

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in the past. You know, he's actually had a handful

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of fights that have been on his own. You know,

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there's videos of him on YouTube. And I looked at

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him and I was like it just he reminded me

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so much of a junior middleweight contender. But I had

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covered years ago from h I was a French fighter also,

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but it come from Cameroon in Africa named Uh. Well

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he had He was Mamadou Tiam who had become the

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mandatory challenger for Felix Tito Trinidad, which happened to be

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the first Felix Trinidad fight I had covered in person.

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And Uh, Mamadou had the reputation as a big puncher.

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I don't know if Sajo has that reputation, but just

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a sturdy, sturdy guy with a great build, you know,

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a thick neck, you know. And Sajo, you know, he

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hasn't I mean, not fought big names, but he is

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twenty six and oh with twenty three knockouts. I definitely

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view this as a step up for Diego Pacheco, who,

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by the way, is twenty four and oh. So you

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know you're taking these two guys there are combined. You know,

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they're both undefeated at fifty and oh, and they're both

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highly ranked in the WBC and in the WBO, I

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believe as well. And so the winner of this fight

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is maybe it's not an official elimination fight, if you will,

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but it is. Uh. It is definitely a significant fight

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from the standpoint of where you're going to be positioned

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for a possible chance to fight for one of the titles.

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Now obviously Karence Crawford at or this is in the

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in the uh super Milia. Yeah, he's so sadjo let

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me let me reiterate this. Sajo has been fighting as

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a light heavyweight. He is fighting this fight as a

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super middleweight right, which is the natural weight class of Pacheco.

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But the winner, as I said, will be a highly

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ranked fighter in position for one of the organization's belts. Now, obviously,

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Terrence Crawford is the undisputed champion, or I guess he's

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no longer the WBC champion because they stripped it away

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from him. But the point is those titles, presumably with Crawford,

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depending on what he decides to do, may fracture even more.

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I'm only making the point that the guy that wins

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is going to be very nicely positioned to fight in

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one of those types of fights. Because let's be honest,

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it's not like if Crawford does come back and defend,

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he's not fighting one of these two guys. Not because

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good fighters, they just don't have the name value. They're

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still trying to work on their name value, and that

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name value will probably be increased by whoever wins, particularly

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if it's something interesting. Now, I must say Matt Troom

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and they do a heck of a job, but this fight,

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they've barely done anything, so it's been very under the radar.

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Maybe in stocked in it's like a big deal, which

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is where Gay Flores is from, which.

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Speaker 2: Is we'll talk about him in a minute right now,

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which is.

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Speaker 1: Why this is there because he's a draw, but it's

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a very pivotal fight for these guys. Pachecko is right

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at the point right now where he's had some fights

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where he maybe hasn't impressed as much as you kind

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of hoped, or guys have hung around. Like he'd come

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off a fight where he went to distance with Trevor mccumbe,

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who had been stopped by Caleb Plant and you're like, okay,

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Pachecko should take care of this guy. And it went

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to distance. I mean, it was a wide decision, but

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it wasn't exactly a scintillating performance. He you know, he

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had Steve Nelson go the distance with him in the

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previous fight, so I'm not saying I'm not down on Pacheck.

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I'm just saying you'd like to see a little bit

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more spark than there's been maybe in the last couple

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of fights. And for Sajo, look, he's getting a huge

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opportunity to come into America taking on a hot shot

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young fighter. Has nothing to lose. I mean, you know,

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in a dozen a technical perspective of the fight, and

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the and the perfect record, but no one's fighting him,

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you know, at the top level without you know, some

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kind of major inducement financially. So he's got a lot

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to besides just a victory, so much he can build

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off of if you were able to win this fight.

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Speaker 2: I just calculated this. This is the sixth fight for

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Pacheco since November twenty twenty three, so he's been very

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active by a lot of standards, all right. The last

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two fights, though, have been decision fights, as you mentioned,

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went the route with McCombe and then in the previous

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fight also a twelve round decision with Steve Nelson, the veteran.

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He had had eighteen knockouts in twenty two fights before that.

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So is the big punch gonna be back? Are we

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finding out? As he steps up in competition. That the

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the and this sometimes happens that the veterans know how

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to take a punch, stay away, create angles. That's that's

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a fascinating part of this fight for me.

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Speaker 1: In the main event, he's also again I said, he's

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taking on a supposed bigger guy. I mean, Sadjo's last

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two fights had been north of one hundred and sixty

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eight pounds. One was like a one to seventy one,

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one seventy two. The other one was, you know, a

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legit light heavyweight fight. So there's that aspect of it.

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I find this fight to be pretty interesting. Like I

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don't know if it's gonna be like a shootout type

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of slam bang type of fight, but I feel like

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both guys, it's not given.

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Speaker 2: It's not a given that Pacheco dominates and destroys this guy.

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So that what you're saying without saying.

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Speaker 1: It, yeah, absolutely not, no no doubt about it in

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my mind. I mean, I think this is a legitimate,

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legitimate match, and I'm actually kind of surprised. I would

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say I'm surprised because Matchroom gets to a point with

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their guys where they're willing to put them in real fights.

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But Pachecko's team is taking this kind of gamble against

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a guy who I considered to be a dangerous opponent

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who if you win, a lot of people are say, Okay,

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wonderful you want because they don't they've never watched Soger,

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they don't know anything about it. He's not perceived as

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some boogieman or anything like that. But if you've paid

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attention and you've actually watched him fight, you're like, man,

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this is this is a this is a real fight

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because it's a high risk, low reward kind of match,

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you know what I mean. Like, if you win, you

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did what you're supposed to do, what everybody expected you

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to do. If you lose, you're like, how'd you lose

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a guy I never heard of? So there is there

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is that element of that from the from the Pachecko side,

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As I said, from the from the Sajo side, it's like,

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you know, we're coming to make a name for ourselves.

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We have a great record, but we're unrecognizable to most

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of the boxing public. If I beat a young guy

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like Diego Pachec who's getting in around, I can really

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build off of it. So that to me, their stakes

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involved besides just the positioning that the winner will take

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within the various sanctioning bodies a right.

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Speaker 2: So that's the main event. As we mentioned, Gabe Flores

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is in the co feature against Joe Cordina. Yes that

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Joe Cordina fighting in the United States in California. If

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he's primarily fought in the UK and in Saudi Arabia

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and is a former world champ, a WBO lightweight eliminator,

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I'm just going to say, on the face intriguing matchup

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here with Flores, still has some question marks about whether

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he can take the next steps.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, Floras has a ton of question marks, but but

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Cordina has has made himself have of some question marks

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also because he had so much expectations from him as

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a as an Olympian and a guy that had won

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a world time you know, and had some you know,

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good fights. His fight with Rockamov was an excellent matchup.

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He won that fight, he became the IBF title holder

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at one hundred and thirty pounds, he defended it, and

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then he of course he had the big upset loss

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where he got absolutely dominated and stopped in the eighth round.

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This is in May of twenty twenty four in a

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card on a card in Saudi Arabia. That was a

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big surprise because Anthony Casace just whooped him. I mean

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it was a real big shocker. He took a fourteen

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month playoff after that. I don't know if it was

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maybe if there was any injuries or just you know,

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he was getting his mind together, whatever it was, but

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he came back in July of this year. He moved

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up to one hundred and thirty five pounds. He scored

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a ten round decision in the UK. It was not

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you know, it was pretty one side. It was like

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one of the scorecards was like a was a shutout.

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But it wasn't like an overly impressive performance. You know,

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he just went through the fight and beat a guy

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that was not very accomplished. I mean, so to get

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back on track. But so now for him to come

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from spending, you know, had having never fought in the

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United States before, mostly fighting in the UK. Obviously he

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had to fight in Saudi Arabia also, but to come

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not only to the United States to fight, but to

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do so in gave Flores's hometown. Now, Flores is a

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guy that did turned professional as at the time he

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had become as a teenager, the youngest fighter ever to

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sign with Top Rank, which has you know, Bob Aram

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been promoting fights since the nineteen sixties, so that was

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sort of he got a tremendous amount of hype and

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then you know, he lost a couple of fights. Turned

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out to be like they matched him up with Luis

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Alberta Lopez when he was sort of not that well known,

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but I was like, really shocked they did that, and

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obviously he got his ass kicked out, Yes he did.

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Louis Alberta Lopez went on to have a nice reign

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as a featherweight title holder and and be formidable opponent.

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He lost to Giovanni Cabrera, who was undefeated at the time.

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Cabrera has you know, tangled with some of the better

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names also, and you know, post that, post that that fight,

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and you know, he was sort of like, where am

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I going? You know, could he make one hundred and thirty?

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Is he gonna be one hundred and thirty five? They

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finally settled, Finally he's going to be one hundred and

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thirty five, which is where his last several fights had been.

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Top Brank and uh, you know him parted ways. Uh,

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he's been doing his own thing. And now after having

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had a several fights since the Cabrera loss, but against

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just regular type opponents, he now he's stepping up against

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a real guy in Cordeena. So we're gonna I think

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this is like this is one of those shit or

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get off the pot kind of fights, or both Flores loses,

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You're like, Okay, I don't think the guy's getting to

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the next level. And Flora is still a relatively gun guy.

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He's only twenty five years old, but he's been around

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since he's a teenager, so it feels like he's been

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around forever. But if he loses to Gardina in his hometown, yeah,

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a guy that's uh, you know, looked a little shaky

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in the last couple of fights, then what are you doing?

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You know what I'm saying, like, where are you going?

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Speaker 2: And crossroads fight for And.

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Speaker 1: If Cordina, who you know, is a former world champion

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and an Olympian and you know, at one point was

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considered one of the tope hundred and thirty pounders out

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there moves uh, you know, has gone up and wait

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and now is going to the guy's hometown. But a

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guy that clearly you are, have a high your reputation

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and just because of what you've already accomplished in who you.

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Speaker 2: Have faced, right and the former world champion, So you're.

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Speaker 1: Supposed to beat this guy, even in the hometown and

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move on to some other, you know, title type fights.

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Like I don't know how good the fight's going to be, necessarily,

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but I know that the result is gonna have a

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dramatic impact on the career of the guy that loses

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and who wins, particularly if you ask me the loser,

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because to me, the loser, it's like where am I going?

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Speaker 2: Yep, so and h and again for Flores, there are

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real question marks. The last five fights of all, even

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in victory, I've all gone the distance. I believe I

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have that right, at least the last floor fights of

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I mean, so let's see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Or has never been a puncher. I mean, he's only

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got eight knockouts and twenty seven victories, but he's also

474
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he's got two losses. Both of them were decisions. Although

475
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,319
one of the Lopez fights should have been stopped. He

476
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was absolutely getting destroyed, and the father let him just

477
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take an absolute fucking beating. HM was really disappointed that

478
00:21:56,079 --> 00:21:57,920
fight didn't get stopped just because he was so young.

479
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,839
Why let him take the extra punishment. But you know,

480
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officially he does not have any knockout loss, so that's

481
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that's on this card. Also, it was kind of a

482
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weird fight to me. It kind of came out of nowhere.

483
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I was kind of surprised of bringing Cordeina all the

484
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way over to California, but you know, they may not

485
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have the you know, the space on a show over

486
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in the UK, and he wanted to fight. They're obviously

487
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,799
both ranked in the WBO, so there is that aspect

488
00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:20,279
of it as well, all right.

489
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Speaker 2: And then also on the undercard, Sky Nicholson, female star

490
00:22:25,079 --> 00:22:30,119
former Australian Olympian, and Tito Mercado, a junior welterwid were

491
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also on the card. What's up here with either one

492
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or both of those? Worthwhile?

493
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Speaker 1: Guy? Yes, Guy Nicholson. I mean she's just in a

494
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regular kind of fight. I mean she seems like a

495
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lovely woman. I just I find no entertainment value on

496
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her fights. Frankly, I just don't. I mean, I'm just

497
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being honest. She talks as nicely, but there's very rarely

498
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a chance for a knockout. She's not fighting an opponent

499
00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:53,559
that is any reputation as a well known fighter. So

500
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I mean, I would expect that she would win, but

501
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,440
you just never know. I mean, and frankly, I don't care.

502
00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,839
As far as Tito Mercado, he's one of the better

503
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,319
aspects in boxing. He's been with match Room now for

504
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,240
a little bit. He had an injury that he was coming,

505
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,960
you know, getting over. I can't say he's stepping up

506
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,839
in class. He's taken on the well traveled Antonio Moran.

507
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But Antonio Moran is one of those guys that you

508
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need in boxing. He's a journeyman kind of opponent. He's

509
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,160
willing to face anybody. He usually goes the distance. He's

510
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,960
been stopped twice. I may be slightly biased guys. On

511
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,960
the night that Devin Haney knocked him out, I was

512
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sitting like five feet from the ring and I thought

513
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he died that night. I picked it as a knock

514
00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:28,960
out of the year. But other than that, Moran is

515
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,319
you know, he's going to give you a solid go.

516
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,720
He's been in with a lot of good fighters, but

517
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he's lost, you know, like he lost to Jamaine Ortiz.

518
00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:37,640
For example, who had moved up into the contender level.

519
00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:41,279
He lost to Arnold Barbosa by a decision. So that's

520
00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:43,119
what Marcado's trying to do. You're trying to take that

521
00:23:43,279 --> 00:23:46,920
next step against a journeyman, yes, but a reputable guy

522
00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:50,640
that that can handle himself, that can bring out the

523
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truth if you know what I mean, Like, if you're

524
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,680
not prepared, Antonio Moran can spring an upset. So if

525
00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:58,759
you really think that Tito Mercato was going to the

526
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promised land of a world title, you know, it is

527
00:24:01,559 --> 00:24:03,559
sort of mandatory that he not only win the fight

528
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,000
but look pretty decent. I'm not say he's got to

529
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,000
get a knockout, but you got to. You gotta take

530
00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:09,440
care of this guy and do it with no questions.

531
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And and Moran has been around long enough and face

532
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,119
a quality enough caliber of opponent, and if you're not

533
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,960
really ready, he can embarrass you or at least you

534
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:21,279
make you look bad, all.

535
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Speaker 2: Right, So stay tuned for that. On the under card again,

536
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,960
this is a Dezonne show Saturday night, US time, Pacific

537
00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:30,400
time zone here, and it's going to kind of compete

538
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,039
with the Badu Jack main event for the WBC cruiserweight

539
00:24:33,079 --> 00:24:36,960
title that's also in Los Angeles, so stay on both

540
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,839
of those. Some fight news. They had the kickoff press

541
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conference on Wednesday at Madison Square Garden for Teya, Fimo Lopez,

542
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,119
Shakur Stevenson. It eventually got a little saucy, but they

543
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,400
were for the most part behaved during this and saying

544
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,920
the right things for the January thirty first main event.

545
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One of the first big fights of twenty twenty six

546
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,039
is going to be this fight. I'm saying that, all right,

547
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,279
a little more well.

548
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,599
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I mean they're going to fight

549
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January thirty first at Madison Square Garden, which, other than

550
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,960
having hosted the third fight between Katie Taylor and Amanda

551
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,799
Serrano this past summer, there really has been very little

552
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,920
action in the main arena. They've had fights regularly at

553
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,440
the Madison Square Garden Theater, but the big arena has

554
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,519
been somewhat dormant for boxing. This is a great kind

555
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:22,440
of matchup to bring that back. I think they're going

556
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to do a great crowd. Both guys will talk it up.

557
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,680
It's a worthy fight. You have the the legitimate junior

558
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,839
welterweight world champion and Tiafimo Lopez defending the title, the

559
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,759
lineal title in the WBO belt against Shakur, who is

560
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,680
the WBC lightweight champion. He has been a champion in

561
00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:40,160
multiple divisions. He's moving up in weight to try to

562
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,039
you know, he's been a title holder at one twenty six,

563
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,920
at one thirty, at one thirty five, looking for a

564
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,720
title in a fourth waight class still as a pretty

565
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,359
young fighter. I mean, so there's a lot at stake. Obviously,

566
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,319
they know each other very well. They were with Top

567
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,880
rank together for many many years, and this fight's been

568
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,640
a long time coming. And it's sort of like Tiafimo

569
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,880
said at the press conference when asked about you know,

570
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:02,079
what do you think about fighting your your your your

571
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,680
former stablemate, you know, and he said what a lot

572
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,799
of fighters think, there's no friends in boxing. Maybe there's friendly,

573
00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:10,039
but there's no true friends, because you know, you may

574
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,359
have to fight the guy at some point, and that's

575
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what's going to happen.

576
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Speaker 2: Uh.

577
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Speaker 1: The press conference, ta Femo like usually I didn't understand

578
00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:18,000
half the funck what he was saying. And he's just

579
00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:18,519
always he.

580
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,039
Speaker 2: Was sitting and taking notes like on a notebook, and

581
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,039
then they asked him, what is he taking notes about?

582
00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:25,960
Like he was at a lecture or something.

583
00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: But that's that's yeah, listen, I don't I don't need

584
00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:31,839
to hear him talk and all this. I want to

585
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,039
see him box. Uh. In terms of the the back

586
00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:37,440
and forth, it was really not a lot between Chakhor

587
00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:39,559
and t Fema. Was really a lot of it was

588
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,319
between Shakor and Ti Femo's father. Yeah, sor so that

589
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,079
that's so, I mean that type of thing. I listen,

590
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,559
I'm interested in the fight obviously, it's a really interesting

591
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,240
match up to me. Uh, the press conference yesterday, I

592
00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:54,839
was sort of like whatever, I couldn't really stomach to well.

593
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,599
Speaker 2: And but the other thing, and we've talked about this,

594
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you got New York fighter with Ta Femo. You got

595
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a New Jersey, Newark, New Jersey guy in Shakoor. This

596
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,160
should be I'm saying, this a New York fight that

597
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,440
people gravitate to, and you should have an atmosphere for

598
00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:10,359
this in about a month.

599
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: Stay tuned, definitely. I mean, I'm I'm probably gonna make

600
00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:14,960
the trip up for that fight. They go, now they didn't,

601
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,319
I don't, I don't. Maybe I missed it, but they

602
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,759
didn't formally announce undercard fights like they said they were

603
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:20,799
going to, and then they have not yet from what so,

604
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,279
but there's a couple of fights that are in the

605
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,000
in the pipeline that are probably going to be on

606
00:27:24,039 --> 00:27:27,079
this undercard. One of them is supposed to be a

607
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,960
title defense by the IBF on hundred and forty pound champion,

608
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,960
which is Richardson Hitchins, which makes a lot of sense

609
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,319
because he's a New Yorker, it's the same weight class.

610
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,519
There's been a lot of talk before the Shakur Lopez

611
00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:40,319
fight was made that there was conversation that Tithemo would

612
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,319
have a unification fight against Hitchins. They are both managed

613
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,799
by Keith Connelly, who his opponent is going to be

614
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,720
on this undercard as not so much clear. There were

615
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,400
rumors about Jermaine Ortiz. I don't think that's the one

616
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,960
that's going to happen, but regardless, whole fine somebody for

617
00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:56,559
him and Hitchins will will also talk it up and

618
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,359
put himself in position potentially for a fight with the winner.

619
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The other fight that is again not signed, but is

620
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,400
definitely in the in the contract stages. If you will,

621
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,000
is they try to you know, get all the eyes

622
00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:09,799
and all the dots and t's crossed in the right spots,

623
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,559
and that's a middleweight fight between your boy Carlo uh

624
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:19,519
Adamas Carlos Adamas, who has gotten an exception from the

625
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,759
WBC from the mandatory or maybe they paid they step

626
00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:25,119
aside to the mandatory that was just ordered at the

627
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,519
convention last week. But supposedly he'll be on this card

628
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,079
against Austin m O Williams, the Mattroom fighter. Mattrom is

629
00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:34,720
the official promoter of this fight. So Austin Williams getting

630
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,839
his opportunity probably to fight for one of the titles.

631
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,359
That's sort of an interesting fight. And so you know,

632
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,079
these are Turkey cards. They they have made a lot

633
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,440
of fans by putting on quality undercards for a big

634
00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:51,400
time main events. So if the undercard winds up being

635
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,640
Hitchens against a good opponent, Adamas against Ammo, and that's

636
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,079
just two shows, two fights, you know they'll add, you know,

637
00:28:58,079 --> 00:28:59,880
at least a couple more. That seems like a pret

638
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:01,319
good night at the fights if you ask me.

639
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: All right, so that's coming in January. Okay, a positive update.

640
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:08,839
You did make reference to the Opataia brutal knockout, but

641
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:15,359
one punch knockout of a Hussien Sinkara, the fighter from Turkey. Uh.

642
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,319
He had been hospitalized all weekend, but Dan, there is

643
00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:20,240
a positive update out of Australia.

644
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: Go ahead. Yeah, he took an absolutely I think that's

645
00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:25,839
I think it really. I mean, I'll think about it

646
00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:27,480
and I'll go back and i'll review them, but that

647
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,640
that might be the knockout of the year, legit. I

648
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,519
mean he took a left hand that just banged off his.

649
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,359
Speaker 2: Chin all down the middle.

650
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:34,759
Speaker 1: Is I like that?

651
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,559
Speaker 2: I mean, awful?

652
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely out coal probably before he hit the deck. But

653
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,640
when he hit the deck, he first back of his

654
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,200
head bounced off the second rope from the bottom and

655
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,400
those ropes and they're not soft, they're they're in they

656
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,200
have padding around them, but they're basically metal wires that

657
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:52,000
are inside inside that uh that that sheath over it,

658
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:53,759
and he banged right off of there and then hit

659
00:29:53,799 --> 00:29:55,920
the deck and was absolutely out. He was down for

660
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,960
a couple of minutes, getting medical attention. He was finally

661
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,440
able to get to his feet. He a little bit

662
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,640
after the fight, but then they took him to the hospital. UH.

663
00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:06,160
And it turned out that he not only had multiple injuries.

664
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,599
He had a small brain bleed, which is massively serious.

665
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,519
If it's big enough, that's what puts guys in comas

666
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:12,319
and makes them die.

667
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

668
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: Fortunately it was not, you know, supposedly according to their side,

669
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,319
very small, so that's good.

670
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

671
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: He had a contusion of his brain. That can't be good.

672
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:24,960
You know, that's not good. And he also when he

673
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:27,559
hit the I'm sure this is how this happened. When

674
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,279
his neck hit the rope, he fractured his c one vertebrate.

675
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,559
The see one vertebrate is the first your first bone

676
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:37,359
in your spine that's at the base of the skull. Yeah,

677
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,279
so that was a very very harsh knockout with a

678
00:30:40,319 --> 00:30:43,400
lot of injuries that took place because of it. So

679
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:46,960
but fortunately the update was from from his team that

680
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,359
he was released from the hospital on Tuesday and he's

681
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,039
been resting, and that the brain bleed was under controlling,

682
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,160
very small, and that that the the the fracture in

683
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,920
the vertebrae was just a crack, so it wasn't as

684
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,759
serious as maybe as it otherwise could have been. The

685
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,319
contusion is essentially like a bad bruise that I guess

686
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:08,680
will heal with time. But the damage that ji Opataiah

687
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,680
did to this man, it's one punch, yep, absolutely just amazing.

688
00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:15,039
And the thing you should know also, ji Opataia is

689
00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:18,319
a bad man. This is now. I was talking to

690
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,000
one of one of the guys from his promotion at

691
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:23,240
Tasman Fighters just to make sure I was clear about this.

692
00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:26,680
He has been not even when he hasn't knocked guys out,

693
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,319
guys have ended up going to the hospital because he

694
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,519
beats up on them so bad. Uh Hussin Sinkara was

695
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,200
of his last seven opponents, he was the sixth one

696
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,440
that had to go to the hospital for medical attention

697
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:41,200
after the fight with Obataia. He's a bad motherfucker.

698
00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: Now, it should be mentioned Opataia has had to go

699
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:45,240
to the hospital as well because he had the badly

700
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:47,559
broken jaw against Bratas in the fight that he won

701
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,519
when he won the IBF title the first time on

702
00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:50,319
the first goal around.

703
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: So I'd rather be than Opata's opponents. Yeah, he is good.

704
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,240
That Sinkara is Okay, you never want to get injured.

705
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, because as much as we talk about the

706
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:03,200
brutality of the sport, we don't want to see anybody

707
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,359
seriously injured or worse.

708
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: So that is as obscuresting Car was and as completely

709
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,720
I known. He did have that one moment in round

710
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:12,599
two that at least you'll remember that if you watch

711
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,799
the fight where he really rocked Opatia cut him under

712
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:17,640
the eye. That was a quick moment though, and then

713
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,880
otherwise Opataia came back and beat him up. And but

714
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,720
that knocked out that you find the knockout on you know,

715
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:24,720
you can find the clip of it on social media

716
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:28,319
or on YouTube, and just the devastating knockout. All right.

717
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:34,279
Speaker 2: Moving on TKO, the parent company of UFC and several

718
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:36,920
other outlets, and they are also the people that are

719
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,920
behind ZUFA Boxing. They had an earnings call. Rayphield keeps

720
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,960
up with his stock market and his earnings calls when

721
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,279
he needs to. They had an earnings call where they're

722
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:48,119
updating investors because it's a public trading company, and they

723
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,279
revealed something about the timeline of the new ZUFA Boxing

724
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,480
series and win It debuts go ahead.

725
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,839
Speaker 1: Right, not a surprise. So their first event on Paramount

726
00:32:57,839 --> 00:33:00,559
Plus will take place on January twenty third. That was

727
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,559
what was said on the on the earnings call. That

728
00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:05,319
you mentioned, so that with the earnings call is led

729
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:08,880
by t KO President Mark Shapiro, who obviously is one

730
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,720
of the top executives and has his hands in, you know,

731
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,160
all the different aspects of the company and he's usually

732
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,400
the guy that handles those calls. And so they did

733
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,640
discuss that. They didn't talk about what the main event is.

734
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,759
They didn't talk about where it's going to take place

735
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,200
or anything like that. Just the date was that and

736
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,359
the interesting aspect of that, and I'm sure you'll hear

737
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,119
this word synergy at some point, is that it's taking

738
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,160
place the night before they have a UFC event. And

739
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:35,359
now that ZUFA has got to deal with the Paramount

740
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,839
Plus and UFC is going to also be on Paramount

741
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:41,160
plus last CBS, I'm sure there'll be some cross promotion.

742
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:45,519
And so that was what was announced. And so they'll

743
00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:49,400
have to operate this first show under the current rules

744
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,039
of the Muhammad Ali AC because if there's going to

745
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:54,839
be a change in terms of the lobbying efforts that

746
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,880
have been going on to amend the Ali Act, that

747
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:01,680
hasn't become law yet and it's still unclear if it

748
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,279
will you know, be be passed into law. There were

749
00:34:05,319 --> 00:34:07,960
some hearings earlier in the week on Capitol Hill where

750
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,199
they were discussing this in one of the committees. But

751
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,000
you know, Congress sometimes can move at galatial.

752
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes most of the time it means to be, except

753
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:21,320
if they're voting on their own pay raises in vacation.

754
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:23,119
So yeah, that might take a while.

755
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:25,559
Speaker 1: But the thing about it is when you think about

756
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,559
where we are now on the calendar here in mid December,

757
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,719
we're approaching mid December until when the event happens on

758
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,000
January twenty third. It's not like they can just pass

759
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:37,079
this the day before and suddenly it's going to go

760
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,159
into law and then they can right away do it.

761
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,559
They're signing contracts with fighters now, probably to be on

762
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:46,239
this show. There's probably I don't. I'm not. I may

763
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,880
check in on what goes on on a TK earnings call,

764
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,639
but I don't keep up with the legislative calendar. I don't.

765
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,119
There can't be that many days left legislating between now

766
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:56,960
and jeruy and twenty third, because Congress is going to

767
00:34:57,039 --> 00:35:00,960
go home correct the Christmas break slash holiday break. They'll

768
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,360
have New Year's and then you know, and they still

769
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,760
have other things obviously that are presented to the Congress.

770
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,360
That seem to be a heck of a lot more

771
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,480
important to the United States of America than a revision

772
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,920
of the Muhammad Ali reformat. So, at least to start,

773
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,760
it seems like they'll operate under the existing rules. Obviously

774
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,280
that could change going forward. But more importantly, we're gonna

775
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,400
have zoof of boxing on January twenty third, and I

776
00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:27,159
for one, am extremely interested to check it out to

777
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,239
see how they present it, who they have as their commentators,

778
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,280
what it looks like, what it sounds like obviously, what

779
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,480
the matchups are going to be, what types of fighters

780
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:36,719
they have signed, and how they're going to position the

781
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,400
entire Did.

782
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: They not say they're going to fight monthly or at

783
00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:43,760
least every other month? How well, what do we remember.

784
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a monthly, monthly series.

785
00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:51,079
Speaker 2: Okay, And so January twenty third will be fighting. And

786
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,239
I didn't catch it if you said it where. We

787
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,159
don't know the where yet, don't know where they'll reveal

788
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:56,559
the where.

789
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: But that's just we do know what's going to be

790
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:02,719
the night before they hold a UFC event, all right.

791
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:07,559
Speaker 2: So we'll stay tuned, Okay, Women's Boxing News, Claressa Shields

792
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:10,320
will be back Rayfield. Do I have to say undisputed

793
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,920
women's heavyweight champion? I mean, yeah, it's so bereft of

794
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:17,000
anybody being in the heavyweight division.

795
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: But well that I agree with what the facts are.

796
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,000
That's what she is.

797
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: They gave her the other belts when she wore one

798
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,360
of the belts, and now she's fighting Franchon Cruz Desern

799
00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:29,840
and that is going to come on February twenty second, correct,

800
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,679
So tell me more. They've announced this go ahead.

801
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so don't get cut up in which titles that are.

802
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,679
That's the main thing is that Franchion Cruise Desern is

803
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,079
for the first time in the last several fights, at

804
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:40,880
least for my way of looking at is that Claressa

805
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,800
Shields is in with a real legitimate opponent who, even

806
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,679
though I still make Franchion Cruise a heavy underdog in

807
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,440
the fight, at least she's a known commodity. She has

808
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:53,679
history with Claressa. I was actually at their professional debut.

809
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,719
They fought each other in their professional debuts in twenty sixteen.

810
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,880
Women's boxing has come a long way since twenty sixteen.

811
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,639
It was very surprising that both these two women took

812
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:07,079
each other on in their pro debuts because Claressa was

813
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:09,199
taken on a real opponent in her pro debut, and

814
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,320
even though a Cruz Desern did not win like an

815
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,840
Olympic gold medal or two of them the way Claressa did,

816
00:37:14,039 --> 00:37:15,880
she had a good amateur background. She was a known

817
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,639
commodity within women's boxing, and they turned probe mainly because

818
00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:21,519
there was nobody else for them to fight. But it

819
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:23,199
turned out to be a tremendous battle. I know if

820
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,559
you look at the scorecards, so like whatever she won,

821
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,159
Claressa did forty to thirty six, and all three scorecards, well, yeah,

822
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,119
fair enough, but a I thought that Cruise desern won

823
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:34,039
at least one round. If you go back and you

824
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:36,280
watch the fight, it was a fucking balls from the

825
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,480
wall kind of battle. It was on the undercard of

826
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:42,920
the first fight between andre Ward and Sergey Cobal, and

827
00:37:43,039 --> 00:37:44,960
other than the main event, it kind of told the show.

828
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,559
It was a really good fight. It's taken a long

829
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:49,199
time for them to come back around to each other.

830
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,360
Cruise deserned had become the undisputed women's super middleweight champion

831
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:57,000
after Claressa had left the division and given up that status,

832
00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:00,920
so she has some accomplishment. They're going to fight a rematch.

833
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,519
It's like I said, a long time coming. It's the

834
00:38:02,559 --> 00:38:06,960
first fight of Claressa's on her new announced promotion contract.

835
00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:09,960
That is with where she stayed with Salida Promotions, brought

836
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,519
on Win Records, which apparently has guaranteed her over the

837
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:18,000
course of a few fights eight million dollars two million

838
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,119
dollars a fight over four fights. I don't know how

839
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:24,000
they're going to make that back, I mean, but that

840
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:26,599
ain't my problem. But anyway, so yeah, this is the

841
00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:28,639
first fight of that of that contract. That's going to

842
00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:31,239
be a regular dezone fight. They're going to do it

843
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,639
at the Little Caesars Arena in Detroit, where Claressa has

844
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,239
proven to be a very good draw. She's from Flint, Michigan,

845
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,039
so you know, the people from Michigan who support her

846
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:42,320
turn out, whether it's from Detroit or from Flint, and

847
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,719
they'll put on a nice event and we'll see what

848
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,079
Salita lines up for the undercard. But as I said,

849
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:49,719
you on recent Claressa fights, though I have a lot

850
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,159
of respect for everything Claressa has accomplished. She's a great

851
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:53,760
athlete and she's a heck of a fighter. I think

852
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,360
she's clearly in terms of women's boxing number one pound

853
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,519
per pound right now and has been for quite a while.

854
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,159
Her fights have left no interest for me because she

855
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,480
has fought nobody, because there's nobody in those weight classes

856
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:07,280
at least. Cruise Desern is a known commodity who's been

857
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,719
in the ring with other good competition. She has accomplishment

858
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,199
of her own, and there's also the fact that they

859
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,239
fought a really outstanding fight in their pro debuts. Like

860
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,840
I said, the rematch is a long time coming.

861
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,079
Speaker 2: So there's that February in Detroit. As we turned the

862
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:24,760
calendar to twenty twenty six. Okay, Caroline Duwah is not

863
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,800
gonna wait for twenty twenty six. She is back in

864
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,039
the news and she's on the Jake Paul Anthony Joshua

865
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,800
undercart On the bill, as they say in the UK,

866
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,199
all right, give us the details.

867
00:39:35,639 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: So she was a fighter that had been a cornerstone

868
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,480
for the Boxer Company in the UK. They were doing

869
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:44,840
these fights regularly on Sky Sports, and it was her,

870
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,519
it was Ben Whittaker, it was Adam Azine. It was

871
00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:51,519
a few of the folks that were the up and

872
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:55,599
comers that were with Boxer. When Sky Sports did not

873
00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:58,920
renew their contract last summer and the contract ended, it

874
00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:01,320
left the boxer to court as scramble around. They ended

875
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,159
up making a deal with BBC far less money, far

876
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,400
less maybe maybe more exposure because BBC is such a

877
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,599
big deal. But they're not on BBC one, They're on

878
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:13,960
BBC two, which I guess my understanding is there is

879
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,360
a pretty big difference. Nonetheless, a lot of the contracts

880
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,719
that Boxer had with fighters were tied to their broadcast

881
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,559
deal also, so once that ended, they were allowed to

882
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,960
go their own way. Now, Adam Azine decided to stay

883
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000
with Boxer. He's an excellent young talent within one hundred

884
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,320
and forty pound division. He stayed with them, but Caroline

885
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,280
Dubois and also Ben Whittaker have moved on. Ben Whittaker

886
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,039
signed recently with Mattrim had his debut for the company

887
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,000
a couple of weeks ago, scored the first round knockout

888
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:45,360
Caroline Dubois. She's in Lebron. James Parlance taken her talents

889
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,119
to MVP, which had has become.

890
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,519
Speaker 2: Very close by the way, nice reference, very close to

891
00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:52,360
South Beach where they're fighting in Miami.

892
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: Very nice. That's why I said that. So she comes

893
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,719
to MVP, which I think has clearly established itself over

894
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,199
all last you know, a year or two as the

895
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,440
pre eminent promotion for female boxing. Salita Promotions does a

896
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,239
good job with their women's boxing promotions also obviously as

897
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,639
the promoter for Clarissa Shields as their number one female.

898
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:16,599
But MVP has done, you know, they have become a

899
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,239
huge outlet for women's boxing, and she becomes like they've

900
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,039
not only are they doing deals with some of the

901
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:26,360
top women's boxers from the United States and other places also,

902
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,199
but they are particularly now strong in terms of the

903
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,199
UK marketplace because not only do they now have Carolyn

904
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,039
Dubois was one of the best young British women boxers

905
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:37,199
that there is, and not just not just British but

906
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,599
in the whole sport. She is eleven and zero with

907
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,400
a draw which was a technical draw. She was an Olympian.

908
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,480
She's the younger sister of Daniel Dubois. But MVP also

909
00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:50,039
has now Elie Scottney, they have Chantal Cameron, they have

910
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:53,480
Terry Harper, they have Savannah Marshall. I mean, they're really

911
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,320
that's just the British female boxers that they have not

912
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,280
to mention obviously Amanda Serrano and Alicia Baumgardner and plenty

913
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,119
of other ones. Anyway, so as you mentioned, she signed

914
00:42:04,159 --> 00:42:06,079
with them and they are going to have her make

915
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:08,559
her debut on the undercard of the Jake Paul and

916
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,440
Anthony Joshua card. Her fight, by the way, is part

917
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,119
of the preliminary card, so it's actually if you're one

918
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:15,960
of the people that doesn't even have Netflix, which I

919
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,480
don't know too many people that don't, the preliminary card

920
00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:21,840
is actually for free on the Netflix Sports YouTube channel

921
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,280
and the MVP YouTube channel, so you can watch Caroline

922
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,920
as well as some of the other women. She is

923
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,440
fighting a Italian boxer in this title defense, and you know,

924
00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:35,239
we'll see what she can do. The Italian boxer I'm

925
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,400
not that familiar with, to be quite honestly, if you're.

926
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: Not familiar with Camellia Panada, I'm not yeating.

927
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: Well it actually is, so I'm not I'm not knocking

928
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,960
Camellia Panetta. She's an Italian fighter. She fights out of

929
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,519
West Palm Beach, Florida. She has fought mostly in Italy

930
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:52,320
and Mexico, but she's coming to have her first fight

931
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,400
here in the United States. She also, like Caroline Dea,

932
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:59,000
is a southball for what it's worth, and I'm interested

933
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:02,679
in seeing car and a really good fighter.

934
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,599
Speaker 2: She scored some knockouts too for women's boxing, which isn't

935
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:06,440
all that common.

936
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: So she's only got five knockouts and eleven fights, but

937
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,440
some of the knockouts have been quite memorable, all right,

938
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:12,320
So she is.

939
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: That's now as we release this pod next Friday, yes

940
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,239
or nineteenth, that they're having that fight, all right. One

941
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,360
final note before we get out of here, and that

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is a trainer swap, a trainer change for Mario Barrios,

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who we still believe is going to be fighting Ryan

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Garcia coming up, speaking of February, although that's not been

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officially announced yet, right, but it's all but done, but

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there is a Barrios has gone now with a new

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trainer go ahead.

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Speaker 1: As far as the fight goes, It's not officially like

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sign Stield delivered one hundred percent done, but I think

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it's done enough where if you watch the Pitbull Cruise

951
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Lamont Roach pay per view that PBC put on this

952
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past Saturday. On the broadcast between fights, they had the

953
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fight the Car took place in San Antonio, that is

954
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Mario Barrios's hometown. Mario was there and they brought him

955
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up on to the set and they did an interview

956
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with him. Brian Custer, the host of the show, had

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him along with Joe Goosen, who is his other guy

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that sits there and analyzes fights on the desk with him.

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And it turns out as they interviewed Mario Barrios, he

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announceaid he is going to now train with Joe gooson. Obviously,

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Joe does a good job in terms of broadcasting, but

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he's obviously best known as a top level trainer. He's

963
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trained with tons of top guys over the years, so

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they're working together. So he had been trained by Bob Santos,

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who was a great trainer in his own right for

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the last few fights, including the draw that a lot

967
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of people thought Mario lost against Manny Pacya that took

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place in July. And though after that, you know, Mario

969
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made the decision that he wanted to change things up,

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and he feels like Joe Goosen gives him a great

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opportunity to do that. They've known each other for many years.

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He made the point that when he was a younger

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fighter coming up on the PBC broadcast, Joe Goosen commentated

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on a lot of his fights, knows him and wanted

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to give it a try. Joe's got a great reputation

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is he should be an eventual Hall of Famer. His

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record as a trainer as a mile along and we'll

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see what he give.

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Speaker 2: Another interesting aspect, He's worked with Ryan Garcia a couple

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of times, including for the Javonte Davison Rayfield. I pay

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attention to all this.

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Speaker 1: I believe that you believe that was their only fight

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together was the tank day.

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Speaker 2: He had Ryan Garcia. He told you on the pod

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he had Ryan Garcia as amate gym, as an amateur

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and was trying to sign him in the whole bit.

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And then he did work with him for the one

988
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fight with Gavonte Davis that didn't work out long term.

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So brio, that's another intriguing angle to this.

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Speaker 1: Joe knows Ryan Garcia very very well. Uh And by

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the way, here's how much this fight is again maybe

992
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not done, but both Ryan Garcia and Mario Barrios, from

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what I am told, are now officially enrolled in Vada

994
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for the fight. Now that's not a surprise, but obviously

995
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it's a bigger deal when it's Ryan Garcia because of

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his problems two fights ago with the drug test against

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Devin Haney. So Mario Barrios has been using Vada testing

998
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for a number of his fights. He's been tested a

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thousand times, had a problem in terms of his testing,

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So they're going to be tested in a big way

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for this fight. But the point that Mario made was like,

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I guess it doesn't hurt that he knows Dryan Garcia

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very well as far as to do a game plan,

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but that was not the reason why he decided to

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go and train with Joe. He just wanted to.

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Speaker 2: And by the way we've talked about this before, there's

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only so much that Joe can do and can tell

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Mario Barrios, because he's gonna have to go out and

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do it and he's gonna have to potentially get hit

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by Ryan Garcia.

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Speaker 1: So I would say not to give my good buddy

1012
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Joe Goosen any I don't need to tell him what

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to do. But if I was Joe Goosen, my first

1014
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point of reference. Bak. You know Marian do okate with

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the left huck too much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah's stay stay away from the left. All right, We

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are ready now for the weekend again. Daniel Dubois and mchalean.

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I'm sorry, excuse me not, David Dubla, Badu Jack and

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mcalean is the main event WBC Cruiserweight title fight again.

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It's a pay per view fight. Look forward on PPV,

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dot Com and the other outlets Triller, et cetera. It'll

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be available on Saturday night. Also the Matchroom de Zone

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Show Stockton, California, not a pay review with Diego Pacheco headlining,

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Gabe Flores Jo Cordina on the co feature. Why don't

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we reconvene and we'll recap the entire weekend again as

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we release this on Thursday night into Friday. You'll know

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what kind of mood I'm in come Friday if my

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Buccaneers have gotten it done against the Falcons on Thursday

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Night football, thus keeping the playoff hopes freshly in the

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picture here or not, Stay tuned to find out what

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kind of mood I'm in for this weekend. For now,

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Big Dan, good stuff here, they need to read your

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00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,800
Fight Freaks Unit, substack your newsletter. For much more, go

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find Badu Jack on the Big Fight Weekend YouTube paget.

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There's a great deal of nostalgic content there as well.

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Other than that'll be good for the weekend.

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Speaker 1: We are good.

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Speaker 2: I believe that we are there, goes Dan Rayfield. I'm

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merely TJ. Reeves. Thank you for being with us. Make

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sure you're following, subscribing, rating and reviewing us. A rating

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and review will help us here in this holiday season.

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If you like what we're doing on apples Freak or Spotify,

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