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<v Speaker 1>When you go to a website you want content, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you get it. Pride to Detroit dot com Holeak. Jeremy

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<v Speaker 1>Riisman is a busy man, his fingers constantly typing, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's about the signing of Jake from it's about the

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<v Speaker 1>injuries yesterday, the full list of Lions players injured missing

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<v Speaker 1>from training camp, and then the bubble watch big shifting

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<v Speaker 1>and defensive line, defensive back roster predictions. You can follow

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<v Speaker 1>him on Twitter or on x however you want to

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<v Speaker 1>call it at Detroit onlinon and he joins us here

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<v Speaker 1>on exis and Bros. Jeremy, thanks for taking time, Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for taking a breath. How are you today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing all right, Steff. I appreciate the words.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you bet man, good stuff. Before we dive into

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things you've recently written, I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you about what you recently produced too, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the Matthew Stafford coming back to Detroit and the

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<v Speaker 1>emotions and all the things that have been said about

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit and the out and the atmosphere and so on

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. You saw the recent interview with Sean

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<v Speaker 1>McVeigh and how he touted Ford Field as the loudest

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<v Speaker 1>place he's ever been. What's your overall breakdown and take

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I think it's humbling right to see

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<v Speaker 2>the Lions fans is kind of excitement, and I guess

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<v Speaker 2>just the impact that they can have on a game,

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<v Speaker 2>from two sources that would know best on that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing, it speaks I think to what we've all

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<v Speaker 2>kind of known for a very long time, which is

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<v Speaker 2>this is a football city through and through, and once

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<v Speaker 2>they produced a winner, things are going to be kind

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<v Speaker 2>of nuts here. And I thought I thought Stafford was

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<v Speaker 2>very mature about the whole thing. I know some people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, saw the micd Up thing where it looked

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<v Speaker 2>like he got mad at all that sort of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think, you know, he knows the city better

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<v Speaker 2>than most people, and for him to come out and

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<v Speaker 2>say like, yeah, this is this is what I expected.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew Lion's fans would boom me because they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do anything to help their team win. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was just the guy that day. So it was cool

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<v Speaker 2>to see and I think staff was being mature about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the city of Detroit got some well

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<v Speaker 2>deserved praise for how they helped the team last year.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about this quite a bit. Jeremy. I fear

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I'm too close and too emotional to it, so

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<v Speaker 1>correct me if I'm wrong. I think the Lions are

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<v Speaker 1>one of the blueprints in the NFL and perhaps all

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<v Speaker 1>of sports on how they run their organization. Where am

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<v Speaker 1>I right? Where am I wrong? In that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean I do think there are multiple ways

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<v Speaker 2>that you can build and different kind of personalities you

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<v Speaker 2>can put at the front of your franchise. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do tend to think that they were a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of the curve here when it comes to maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, filling your coaching staff with a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>former players. They certainly weren't the first team to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>but they took it to an extreme, right, Like the

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<v Speaker 2>whole coaching staff essentially has played in the league almost

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<v Speaker 2>and that certainly seems to be a trend that's on

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<v Speaker 2>the rise. And then, yeah, putting your faith behind a

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<v Speaker 2>guy like Dan Campbell, who I'm a very emotional leader,

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<v Speaker 2>a very transparent guy, that's something that I certainly think

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<v Speaker 2>could could be on the rise. And again, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the lines were maybe at the forefront of that wave,

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<v Speaker 2>just because you look at the way that certain players

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<v Speaker 2>are this year, Like you know, these days, the authoritarian

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<v Speaker 2>type that you know, maybe you describe Matt Patricia as

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't work as well. Players are a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>aware of their own strength and their own ability to

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<v Speaker 2>to talk and and you know, put things out publicly.

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<v Speaker 2>And so maybe a guy that knows what that perild

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<v Speaker 2>is like, knows what it's like to go through training camp,

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<v Speaker 2>knows what it's like to go through injury, is a

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<v Speaker 2>more apt guy to run a football team. And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of ways that there are a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things that the Lions are doing right that

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<v Speaker 2>that I think a lot of teams are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be looking at. You see their front office getting plucked

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<v Speaker 2>by by several other organizations because they know that the

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<v Speaker 2>that the personnel departments are are knocking it out of

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<v Speaker 2>the park right now. So yeah, I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're right in what you say there.

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<v Speaker 1>Or with Jeremy Rice and Priude of Detroit, what a

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<v Speaker 1>great website. You can food him on x or on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter at Detroit on Lion. Check it out. Great information there.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to what took place yesterday. He reported it

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<v Speaker 1>first on the injuries to especially the rookies, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to see how significant that truly is. But I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you about where we were wrong, because when

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Campbell was first hired, everybody made fun of the

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<v Speaker 1>kneecaps and the press conference sayings that he had. And

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<v Speaker 1>now we realized that that, first of all, that's who

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<v Speaker 1>he is. The second of all, his team has taking

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<v Speaker 1>on his persona, and now we embrace it and love it.

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<v Speaker 1>When did it turn for us? Do you think and

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<v Speaker 1>all of us?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, it's a great question, because obviously it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>right away. The Lions. You know, they go three thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>and one that first year and they start the next

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<v Speaker 2>season one in six or whatever it was, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there were calls for Dan Campbell's head. There was calls

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<v Speaker 2>for like, is this all kind of an act? It's

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<v Speaker 2>all kind of you know, just you know, this raw,

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<v Speaker 2>raw guy, but not the you know, intelligence behind him.

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<v Speaker 2>And then obviously things turned around in a hurry in

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<v Speaker 2>that twenty twenty two season and it's been kind of

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<v Speaker 2>on a huge upward trend since then. But I will

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<v Speaker 2>say I probably changed before that in my tone and

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<v Speaker 2>not that I was very critical of the higher at

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<v Speaker 2>the time. I'm always very much a kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see how this plays out type of thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>when you saw that what he did in that opening

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<v Speaker 2>press conference, like you said, was not an act, was

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<v Speaker 2>not just him like flexing his muscles or trying to

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<v Speaker 2>raw raw or anything. That's just who he is on

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<v Speaker 2>a daily basis. That sort of authenticity was not something

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't think. It was not something that I

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<v Speaker 2>think we've seen in Detroit in a while. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>think we've seen a lot of tough guy attitude and

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<v Speaker 2>things like that, but it didn't feel as genuine as

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<v Speaker 2>as what Dan Campbell was giving out every single day

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<v Speaker 2>and so on that once that it kind of be

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<v Speaker 2>clean clear that that's just who he is on a

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<v Speaker 2>daily basis, no matter what is it is, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>if the team won or loss. I was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>buying into at least that sort of leadership. Whether it

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<v Speaker 2>was eventually turned into wins or losses, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>anyone could really believe until it actually started happening. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think seeing that authenticity from him on a day

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<v Speaker 2>to day basis was something that kind of had me

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<v Speaker 2>in his corner pretty early.

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<v Speaker 1>How much do you appreciate there is very little drama

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<v Speaker 1>in camp. I mean, if you want to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the fights with the Giants, go right ahead, but look

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<v Speaker 1>at the drama that has taken place in Dallas, in

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<v Speaker 1>New York, with the Jets in San Francisco. A. How

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<v Speaker 1>impressed are you that there is very little of that?

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<v Speaker 1>And B how much do you think those type of

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<v Speaker 1>I'll use distractions as a word, affects a team compared

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<v Speaker 1>to a team that isn't experiencing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the second one is really tougher to answer. I

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<v Speaker 2>tend to think we a little bit exaggerate the impact

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<v Speaker 2>of things like that. You know, in the off season,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not much else to talk about, so we get

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<v Speaker 2>hung up on contract negotiations. You know, Green Bay was

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<v Speaker 2>in the conversation of this, you know, three weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Jordan Love deal gets done and no one

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<v Speaker 2>cares anymore and they're fine. But when these things linger

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<v Speaker 2>into the regular season, well you know that matters, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon Nyuk situation is lingering into the maybe into the

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<v Speaker 2>season that matters. Dallas is lingering into the season, Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that matters. So from that aspect, yeah, sure, I think

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<v Speaker 2>getting a deal done early, just so you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to worry about it. Leading into the regular season is great.

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<v Speaker 2>I do tend to think though, we overexaggerate some of

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<v Speaker 2>those things. And for Detroit, I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 2>was the plan to kind of get ahead of all that.

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<v Speaker 2>It certainly helps to in terms of contract numbers, to

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<v Speaker 2>get ahead of some of the other deals that are

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<v Speaker 2>getting done, save yourself a couple of million a year

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<v Speaker 2>by getting being the first one to set the market.

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<v Speaker 2>But in general, I do think some of that stuff

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<v Speaker 2>is a little bit overblown.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you broke it? Yesterday? You were talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>rookies and the injuries. All right, jimyor Gibbs obviously not

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie, but he suffers an upper body in injury, right,

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<v Speaker 1>or I'm sorry, hamstring injury. Yeah. And then you get

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<v Speaker 1>Terry on Ard upper body injury which sounds more like

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<v Speaker 1>a hockey injury description anyway, because we're not specifical what

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<v Speaker 1>that is. And then the ankle to Rakestraw. How concerned

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<v Speaker 1>should Lions fans be with those three specific injuries?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to speculate on the

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<v Speaker 2>severity of any of them, just because we don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes an injury can look really really bad

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<v Speaker 2>in practice and then they're okay. That happened with CJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Gerner Johnson last training camp, where it looked like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to be out for the season, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>nikilles or anything like that, and he was back in

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<v Speaker 2>practice like three days later. But obviously you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>those guys out very long, if at all, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Terry on Unarn was going to be a starter, is

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<v Speaker 2>set to be a starter. Hannis Rakestraw was essentially like

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<v Speaker 2>the first guy off the bench to be a corner.

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<v Speaker 2>You lost the Manuel mostly last week for a long term,

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<v Speaker 2>so what was a really deep cornerback room suddenly so

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<v Speaker 2>like it could be pretty thin and maybe back at

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<v Speaker 2>where it was last year, and considering all the effort

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<v Speaker 2>and investments they put into that cornerback position, that's that

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<v Speaker 2>would be pretty disheartening to not even get to week

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<v Speaker 2>one and experience some of that depth that they added.

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<v Speaker 2>As for Jamier Gibbs, you know, he hasn't had a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of work this training camp at all. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he started out training camp kind of limited in his

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<v Speaker 2>role and so this is just him potentially missing more time,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not great either. Because this is a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that you're trying to incorporate more into your passing offense,

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<v Speaker 2>and that takes practice, that takes reps, and so if

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<v Speaker 2>he's missing more of those reps, even if he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily miss a game, that's that's gonna be an impact,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's that's frustrating in that that could hurt the team.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will say that David Montgomery looks like he's

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<v Speaker 2>in mid season form and don't underestimate his impact on

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<v Speaker 2>the team because he's one heck of a runner.

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<v Speaker 1>Love him, absolutely love him. You wrote the Bubble Watch

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<v Speaker 1>Defense Special Teams, great breakdown of every single play. It's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing research and I don't want to suggest that you

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<v Speaker 1>can summarize it quickly. But when you look at Marcus Davenport,

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<v Speaker 1>who I think will be really important or at least

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to help Aiden Hutchinson in rushing the quarterback, how

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<v Speaker 1>imperative is it that you get him into this scheme

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's huge, right. I think every Lions fan

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<v Speaker 2>over the past two years has been looking for that

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<v Speaker 2>of inconsistency, but this is a guy that had and

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<v Speaker 2>game because they're that confident in what he's doing. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's huge because he he also brings something a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit different where Hutchinson is. You know, he's got speed,

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<v Speaker 2>this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Who has surprised you most and who's impressed you most

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<v Speaker 2>The answer to both those questions might be LEVI own Zaerike,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think a lot of people had been, including myself,

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<v Speaker 2>But he has been a man on a mission. He

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<v Speaker 2>has also been a guy that that's basically been a

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<v Speaker 2>being disruptive on very much a daily basis and heading

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<v Speaker 2>into something that's a little more balanced across the board

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<v Speaker 2>rather than just the Aiden Hutchinson show. But I'll throw

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<v Speaker 2>multiple spots. He was kind of headed to be the

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<v Speaker 2>starting Nickels, especially with the Emmanuel Moseley injury. But he

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<v Speaker 2>and that's something he played with the Raiders last year too,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's also kind of set for Okay, he's going

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<v Speaker 2>he plays physical. He got a couple of pass breakups

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday in practice. He's a guy that I think is

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<v Speaker 1>As they get set for preseason game number two, what

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's hard to say. Dan Campbell basically said he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to see how yesterday's practice and Wednesday's practice plays out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they plan on doing a scrimmage on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>So if he feels the you know, the first teamers

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<v Speaker 2>kind of expect a lot of what we saw in

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<v Speaker 2>think there's definitely an increased chance that we see some

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<v Speaker 1>On Saturday, Jeremyrisman proud of Detroit joining us here on

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<v Speaker 1>Exus and Bros. You can fall him on X or

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter at Detroit Online on It's great stuff. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a ton to sift through the various roster moves. You

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<v Speaker 1>wrote this the other day, but Jake from signing what

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<v Speaker 1>I think two oftentimes I really do. I think too

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<v Speaker 1>oftentimes we focus on the quarterback, but look, Jeremy, because

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<v Speaker 1>but in sports, our mind has to take us there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was having a discussion the other day about

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<v Speaker 1>the Lions go get him. My philosophy was, look, if

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<v Speaker 1>if Jared Goff goes down tomorrow, do you think they're

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<v Speaker 1>riding this season with Nate Sudfeld or Hendon Hooker or

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<v Speaker 1>Jake from the answer to me would be no, So

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<v Speaker 1>why not go out and get that guy? Now? Explain

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<v Speaker 1>that that mindset for me and for our listeners and

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<v Speaker 1>what you think about that whole take.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think their ideal scenario was a head and

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<v Speaker 2>Hooker was going to make a ton of strides this

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<v Speaker 2>offseason and put up a big training camp and just

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<v Speaker 2>be that guy. And obviously it hasn't quite worked out

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<v Speaker 2>that way. I thought he played relatively well on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>but now with the concussion, looks like he's probably going

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<v Speaker 2>to miss this entire week, including the preseason game, which

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<v Speaker 2>do think there there is now a question of what

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<v Speaker 2>the plan is here because I you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>to do, and to be fair to Nate subfelt generally

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<v Speaker 2>he's had a strong training camp, you know, the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of training camp you'd like to see from a backup.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a guy where you expect him to challenge for

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<v Speaker 2>the preseason, hasn't looked great in training camp, the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the the following two days after that preseason game, and

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<v Speaker 2>now now I think you do kind of have a

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<v Speaker 2>Jake from is, to be quite honest, it is just

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<v Speaker 2>here to have an extra body for the preseason game.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, whenever Hended Hooker is healthy, From's probably

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<v Speaker 2>headed back to the to the waiver wire. But the

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<v Speaker 2>problem with bringing in anyone, even if it is someone

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<v Speaker 2>to take time for him to develop, you know, chemistry with

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<v Speaker 2>learn the offense. You know, every offense seems to have

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<v Speaker 2>different verbiage, so it's going to take time for all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's a veteran guy, he could probably do it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a matter of whether he would want to

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<v Speaker 2>backup job, is he interested in you know, uh, being

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<v Speaker 2>that veteran guy who's a clipboard holder, or does he

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<v Speaker 2>interested in playing at all? Maybe he's retired. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of complications that we just don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, lastly, real quick, great answer, and I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>They did get rid of Antoine Green, which maybe surprised

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<v Speaker 1>me just a little bit, although with the concussion and

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<v Speaker 1>the issues that they can always bring him back. As

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<v Speaker 1>as you pointed out on the website Pride of Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, quickly, who's the lead candidate for the number

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you can count Kalie Fraeman in as

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<v Speaker 2>either three or four, whichever one you want to call that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's probably not going to generally start, but he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a big part of this offense, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>basically a roster lock at this point that that other

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<v Speaker 2>spot is the challenge, and I think three Fountain is

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<v Speaker 2>to show up. But three Fountain is the guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>regularly been getting those first team reps and even though

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<v Speaker 2>he's been inconsistent, I think he's got to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the leader in the clubhouse right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting stuff. Hey really enjoy the website, really enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>insight as well. Thanks for taking time. I know you're busy.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people are tugging at you.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you and taking the time out for our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners here today. Have a great rest of your Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>and keep up the great work Jeremy YouTube CHEP.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate it.