WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:06.719 Hi, this is Alex Skwerdetski from Calgary, Alberta, Canada, and 2 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:08.439 I play at Link's Ridge Golf Course. 3 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:11.640 This is Golf Smarter number nine hundred and ninety two. 4 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:15.359 And then we have unconscious curses. That's what we deal 5 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:18.440 with mostly on a day to day basis because we 6 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:22.000 don't understand that we're doing it a lot of the times. 7 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:25.920 And an unconscious curse is me in my head saying 8 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:29.480 I hope he misses that shot. That's an unconscious curse, 9 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:32.439 or me saying, oh, I can't stand that person. I 10 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:35.719 hope they don't come to the Christmas party. That's sending 11 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:39.880 negative energy towards someone. You know, we're not taught that, 12 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:44.079 we're not given the information that that is actually doing something. 13 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:49.079 But everything is energy, the thoughts ideas everything. So when 14 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:52.880 we're thinking in our heads, I want that person to fail, 15 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:57.520 that is laying an unconscious curse. Whether you understand that 16 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:01.600 you're doing it or not, you're still cursing someone. That's 17 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:05.920 what we also do to ourselves is unconscious curses typically, 18 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:10.319 and that can be actual cursing like f me, you're 19 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:13.200 cursing yourself, that's an unconscious curse. You don't really know 20 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:15.640 you're doing it. If you knew you were, I think 21 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:19.799 you'd probably stop. So those are the two main categories, 22 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:22.439 conscious and unconscious. 23 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:29.959 Control your emotions, control your energy, control your game. With 24 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:36.159 documentary filmmaker Mallory Kennedy, this is Golf Smarter, sharing stories, 25 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:39.439 tips and insights from great golf minds to help you 26 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:42.120 lower your score and raise your golf IQ. 27 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:47.879 Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast. Mallory. 28 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:50.879 Hello, Fred, I'm so happy to be here. 29 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:52.599 It's great to have you on. 30 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:55.560 This is going to be a fascinating conversation because over 31 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:59.359 the years of Golf Smarter, and you know you're in 32 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:03.519 the nine one hundred and ninety episodes esque up in there, 33 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:09.680 I've covered the zen part of golf, flow state, mental game, 34 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:18.080 emotional game, biometrics, kinesiology, mindfulness, self hypnosis. But this is 35 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:22.479 the first time that anyone has ever suggested the idea 36 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:29.319 of energy controlling your energy or curses. And I'm like, 37 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:32.280 oh no, Wit, this is too interesting and a real 38 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:36.919 hard left turn on this. How did you get And 39 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:39.199 we'll talk about your book a lot, a lot of 40 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:45.400 notes and things that you've said, but you're not a doctor. 41 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:47.520 You're a filmmaker, right. 42 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:49.199 Correct, a filmmaker and writer. 43 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:52.319 Okay, how did you get to this? 44 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:57.360 It was a long journey, I'll say that, but you know, 45 00:02:57.400 --> 00:02:59.879 I've really been all my life. I've been a tuned 46 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:03.199 to energy, and I could see it just kind of 47 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:06.360 naturally as a child, and you know, it was something 48 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:10.919 I was honestly scared of because I just thought ghosts. 49 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:13.919 You know, you're a little kid and you're afraid to 50 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:16.599 go to sleep because you know things are bumping around 51 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:19.680 and you're hearing other things that people don't see, and 52 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.080 you just don't want to. So for a long time, 53 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:26.039 it was just a scary thing that I shut down, 54 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:30.319 really almost completely as much as I could, because too 55 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:32.759 when you talk to people about it, they're just like, oh, 56 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:36.960 you know, that's your imagination and you kind of discredit it, 57 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:39.680 and they just don't want you to be scared, you know. 58 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:43.439 But then as I grew up and got a little 59 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:45.599 more comfortable with it and saw that it was something 60 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:50.120 also that was not going away, then I decided, well, 61 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:54.199 I just need to make friends with it, and started 62 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:57.759 looking into it. I would say, on more of a 63 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:02.800 formal level, just like a self study. And like you said, 64 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:04.800 I'm not like a doctor, and I did not go 65 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:08.479 to a formal school for this, but a lot of 66 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:11.120 it is what I would call a social study and 67 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:15.639 just people watching and watching people's careers and seeing patterns. 68 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:19.079 A lot of it is seeing patterns, I would say. 69 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:25.120 And once you understand the basics of how energy works, 70 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:31.120 you really start to see where curses come in. And 71 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:34.399 people don't want to talk about curses because again, that's scary, 72 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:39.560 you know, that's on a ghost level. Yeah, and especially 73 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:44.519 in the West, we are not accustomed to speaking openly 74 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:47.759 about that sort of thing either. And other countries and 75 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:52.839 other cultures that's different, you know, it's a little more common, 76 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:55.959 and there are daily things that people do to kind 77 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:59.040 of ward against curses and that sort of thing. But 78 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:01.319 here in the West, we're kind of left to our 79 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:04.839 own devices a bit. And the only time we hear 80 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:08.199 or think about curses, especially in terms of sports, is 81 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:11.839 like baseball or something big like Red Sox, you know, 82 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:19.000 the Cubs. But if big franchises and let's say, you know, 83 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:21.680 whoever's on the cover of Madden this year, if they're 84 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:27.000 susceptible to curses, well everyone is that it's not just 85 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:31.199 picking professionals, you know, it's not going on text bracket alone. 86 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.040 This is actually something. 87 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:36.199 That affects all of us. 88 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:39.560 And I think it's time that, you know, people really 89 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:44.160 start paying attention to that, because it is, like you said, 90 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:47.759 something that people just don't even really think about in 91 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:53.279 terms of injury and slumps and just bizarre failures. And 92 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:57.480 that's on the field and off everything that we talk about. 93 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:03.079 Of course, it has an athletic application, but it also 94 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:06.199 has a real life application to So everything you can 95 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:09.519 learn that can help your golf game will also help you, 96 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:11.800 you know, in the boardroom or just every day with 97 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:16.639 your family. And curses, the best way to think of 98 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:20.600 them is really the opposite of blessings. If you believe 99 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:24.279 in blessings and the power of prayer, then you pretty 100 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:27.920 much automatically believe in curses too. They go hand in hand. 101 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:32.360 It's just poor opposites. If you're praying for someone and 102 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:36.399 sending them blessings, you are sending them a river of 103 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:40.199 good vibes, You're sending them good energy. But if you're 104 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:43.879 in your head saying, oh, I hope that person you 105 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:47.319 know doesn't make it to the meeting, today, you're actually 106 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:50.120 sending them bad energy. Or if you're on the golf 107 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:52.720 course and you're saying miss it, miss it in your head, 108 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:54.680 you're actually sending. 109 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:55.079 Out a curse. 110 00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:59.120 Yes you are, you are, and you don't. 111 00:06:58.920 --> 00:06:59.920 Even realize it. 112 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.959 And so when we talk hand in hand of blessings 113 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:07.879 and curses, you also have to start talking about karmic return. 114 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:12.920 And this is where we can kind of control what 115 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:17.199 goes out and comes back at us by how we 116 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:21.319 start to treat others and ourselves, because a lot of 117 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:26.160 it is, you know, self mindset of how you view yourself. 118 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:28.839 If you think, oh, gosh, I'm a loser, I can't 119 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:31.399 make this putt, then you're not gonna make it. You're 120 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:35.279 cursing yourself, you know. And that's really what the book 121 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:39.560 goes into. And it's an element of what I call 122 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:45.759 energy management, and that is the active monitoring of your 123 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:50.519 own personal energy so that you can use it to 124 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:55.480 one defend against curses and low energy that may sabotage 125 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:59.399 your game, whether that's coming from someone else or yourself. 126 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:02.439 And then it also can. 127 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:07.000 Help you with your overall wellness and your personal health 128 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:10.240 and help you just live a better, happier life and 129 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:14.560 get a lot of low negative energy out of your way, 130 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:16.519 because at the end of the day, a lot of 131 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:19.759 times we're our own worst enemy when it comes to mindset. 132 00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:25.720 Right. Right, So when you referred to the being in 133 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:29.800 the West, I'm assuming you're mean the global West and 134 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:31.920 you're talking about the United States and our and our 135 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:37.759 young civilization. But I am a lifelong Californian, so I'm 136 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:38.320 in the West. 137 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:40.919 So when you say that, but you. 138 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:45.960 Tell me where you came from where, because doesn't exist 139 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:46.840 where I am. 140 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:53.120 But you have issues like this that are part of 141 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:55.039 the culture. Where did you grow up. 142 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:59.720 That I actually grew up in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, And go, okay, 143 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:03.639 you're very well. My family at least we're very used 144 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:06.159 to you know, voodoo. 145 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:09.759 Who do you know Creole magic? 146 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:13.919 And yeah, yeah, everywhere it's a way of a family, 147 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:17.080 a family there. And they took us to a haunted 148 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:20.480 it was in actually it was in New Orleans, near Orleans, 149 00:09:21.039 --> 00:09:25.480 and it was they like took us to haunted houses. Right, 150 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:27.879 it's like a regular part of the culture there. 151 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.159 It is. It is, It definitely is. 152 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.919 There's actually a law in New Orleans where I'm not 153 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:35.919 positive it's still on the books, but I know it 154 00:09:36.039 --> 00:09:38.480 used to be where if you're selling a house you 155 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:42.039 have to divulge if it's haunted or not, and sometimes 156 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:43.120 that's a selling point. 157 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:45.279 So yeah, yeah. 158 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:47.240 But it is. It's a it's just part of the 159 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:48.159 culture where we are. 160 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:52.879 And then it's also taboo at the same time too, 161 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:56.720 which is odd, but I guess that's because of you're 162 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:59.480 still in the Bible belt, and a lot of times 163 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:03.559 when you start talking about energy openly, people who are 164 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:09.559 from fundamental Christian backgrounds or traditional religious backgrounds can really 165 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:11.919 like put up a wall and they think, you know, 166 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:16.879 this might be spiritually risky, but it's not. And I 167 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:21.360 think that's a common misconception that we do need to 168 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:24.559 clear up because it can be scary. I was raised 169 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:28.320 in a Baptist church. My mother's Catholic. Like I understand 170 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:31.600 you get the wide eyes when you start talking about curses. 171 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:38.279 So I would say that it is a mixed bag 172 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:43.000 still even where I live in New Orleans where we 173 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:49.039 moved from. But I think that athletes in particular are 174 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:55.679 a group that is primed to learn about the power 175 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:58.879 of energy and how it can help them because athletes 176 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:03.600 are teachable, and they're coachable, and they're typically results based, 177 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:08.600 so they'll try almost anything, even if it's a little unorthodox. 178 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:11.960 I would say, you know, they're usually willing to give 179 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:16.320 something a try, and there are most athletes are already 180 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:20.559 used to visualization practices, and that's a lot of what 181 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:23.279 this is based upon is visualization. 182 00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:34.919 I'm curious to know how your family feels about you 183 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:40.399 bringing up this topic publicly and it's like, don't go there. 184 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:43.360 Are they concerned about it? Does it make them nervous 185 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:45.120 or they're all, yeah, go for it. 186 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:51.080 I would say that it's been there's been a progression. 187 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:53.440 At first, it was just. 188 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:56.759 Mallory. She's just crazy. 189 00:11:56.840 --> 00:11:57.039 You know. 190 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:01.159 Sometimes I would just talk about wild things and you know, 191 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.919 that's okay. I was always you know, they're used to 192 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:07.919 me exploring topics. You know, I'm very open to exploring, 193 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:10.679 and I think they thought maybe that's what this was 194 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:14.600 at first, And actually, I guess I should say in 195 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:18.879 twenty sixteen, in Baton Rouge, we had a really. 196 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:21.120 Historic flood. 197 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:23.919 It was a great flood and we were affected by 198 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:26.559 it and I got really sick afterwards from being in 199 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:30.799 the water, and I honestly thought I was. 200 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:33.879 Like possibly dying. It was that bad. 201 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:37.720 I was unable to eat, my body just stopped accepting food, 202 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:40.799 and I'd gone in and out of hospitals and emergency 203 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:44.120 rooms just trying to find answers. And of course all 204 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:47.879 the test results are fine, you know you're in perfect health. No, 205 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:54.360 I'm absolutely not. I'm like gray. And that's really when 206 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:59.519 I started looking into the energy side of mindset and 207 00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:04.559 health and where those connections were of wellness, because it 208 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:07.360 came to a point where I knew doctors weren't clearly 209 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:09.919 not going to be able to help me. It was 210 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:12.960 up to me, and I had to figure out how 211 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.360 to pick myself up off the couch and just say 212 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:18.799 I'm going to do this, I'm going to live, I'm 213 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:22.159 going to be I'm going to be well again. And 214 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:26.080 it was a journey through the health part and then 215 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:30.840 figuring out that health and your surroundings and also your 216 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:37.200 behavior all contribute to your overall wellness. And that's really 217 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:41.559 when I started connecting the dots of energy management. And 218 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:48.039 really it's all about self awareness and radical honesty of 219 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:52.679 things you need to change and actually making those changes 220 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:56.279 and not just saying okay, well this will make me better. 221 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:57.919 But you actually have to do it too. 222 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:04.320 And that's how I started connecting the dots of energy management, 223 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:10.960 mindset and results of physical results that you could actually see, 224 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:17.440 and healing like rebound of healing. And that's also where 225 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:22.440 I started seeing where I was cursing myself in areas 226 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:26.840 of mindset, and then how my environment around me was 227 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:30.840 not conducive to healing and it was not conducive to 228 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:33.399 being a better person either. 229 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:37.320 And then, as we discuss in the book, when. 230 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:44.279 You rectify all those issues, you actually start seeing immense 231 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:49.919 benefits and durability, your increase durability. 232 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:51.840 And when you. 233 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:54.360 Can get all of that out of your way and 234 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:59.279 then have that self awareness moving forward, you can apply 235 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:03.120 it to a game, any game, the game of life, 236 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:10.200 game of chess, golf, anything, and you really can become 237 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:13.799 more in control of what happens to you on and 238 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:18.399 off the field. And I think once they saw my family, 239 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:22.360 once they saw that this was becoming a way of 240 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:26.440 life and not just talking points, then they started listening. 241 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:31.080 And then slowly I could see that they it was 242 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.320 syncing in what I was saying, and I could see 243 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:35.960 that they were also applying some things to their lives 244 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:37.480 and seeing results as well. 245 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:41.639 So I would say it's been kind of a lead by. 246 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:45.320 Example situation, but you do have to be ready for 247 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:50.200 people just to look at you like your nuts at first. Absolutely, yeah, 248 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:52.080 but it just comes with the territory. 249 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:57.200 But what came first, so clearly your your illness, and 250 00:15:57.279 --> 00:16:01.080 I'm so glad that you're better and you're back. But 251 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:06.039 where where did how did it get from there to 252 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:07.279 start working with athletes. 253 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:11.519 I've actually always been involved with sports pretty much all 254 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:12.320 of my life. 255 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:15.000 I worked in sports. 256 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:18.720 I was a writer for a football magazine in Baton Rouge, 257 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:22.720 Louisiana Football Magazine. I also worked for Marucci Back Company, 258 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:24.799 which is now Marucci Sports. 259 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:27.360 And life for. 260 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:31.799 Me always revolved around sports with my family, you know, 261 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:35.120 going to L s U football games and anything on 262 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:38.000 the Tigers schedule was you know, that's just what you did. 263 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:39.080 It's a way of life. 264 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:44.120 Sports and life in general have never been separate. They've 265 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:48.039 there's always been an element of play, and I think 266 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.480 that is really important, and having an element of play 267 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:56.559 and keeping it play and not being too serious about it. 268 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:00.159 And something that you know you can use is camaraderie 269 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:01.840 with friends or family. 270 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:03.879 And it's it's a bonding experience. 271 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:06.279 It was something I always did with my dad, and 272 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:09.880 you know, I liked baseball, he liked baseball, so we 273 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:14.720 went together, you know, And so sports have meant family 274 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:20.200 for me. Really, it's there's there's there's no separation whatsoever. 275 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:25.160 So that naturally led into my career. And then, like 276 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:29.359 I said, I was a nonprofit fundraiser and put on 277 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:35.279 a lot of golf tournaments. And then when I was, 278 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:39.119 like I said, going through everything I went through, I 279 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:41.559 started writing about it. I'm naturally a writer, so I'm 280 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:46.599 writing about what I know, and I started out on 281 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:52.240 the health side of things, and then feminine issues, women's 282 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:57.240 life issues, that kind of thing, And honestly, there was not. 283 00:17:57.359 --> 00:17:58.559 A lot of response. 284 00:17:58.680 --> 00:18:05.200 People are happy how they are, most of them. And 285 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:08.880 then I saw this opening. I guess I would mostly 286 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:12.960 say that it was shown to me that athletes are 287 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:16.680 a group that are primed for this type of learning, 288 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:22.160 and it, like we've talked about, it has game time 289 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:27.160 and life benefits, and I think it's also really needed 290 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:31.640 right now. I guess about a year ago, I was 291 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:34.839 at home visiting in Baton Rouge and watching the news 292 00:18:34.839 --> 00:18:37.160 with my dad and I was sitting there and this 293 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:41.200 story came on and it was all about how they 294 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:45.279 were having to cancel high school football games because they 295 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:52.119 couldn't get referees, because the referees themselves were afraid of 296 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:57.200 the students, the student athletes because problems they'd have a games, 297 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:00.839 and then parents, and that they did not feel enough 298 00:19:01.160 --> 00:19:04.640 to actually come and officiate a high school game. And 299 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:07.559 this was going on across the state. It was, you know, 300 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:11.079 state news. It wasn't just happening in one city. And 301 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:17.440 that floored me. And you know, the base of energy management, 302 00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:19.680 a lot of it is our mindset, how we treat 303 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:21.640 each other's, how we treat people, coming back to the 304 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:26.680 golden rule, and I felt like this was an opportunity 305 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:32.359 to try to get a sportsmanship message out there that's 306 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:36.519 a little different. That's not just oh, you need to 307 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:40.160 be a good person. But if you come to someone 308 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:43.119 and say, look, if you do this, this and this, 309 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:48.200 and you're nicer and you're more of a sportsman in 310 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:50.559 your day to day life with your team, with your family, 311 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:55.920 you can actually enhance your athletic performance. That's coming at 312 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:59.039 it from a different angle, that's saying, okay, tell me 313 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:03.079 more you know what other kind of benefits can I get? 314 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:06.759 Is it really connected? It's not just being a good person. 315 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:10.240 I can actually control if I'm in a slump, if 316 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:13.079 I'm being you know, not so nice to my coach, 317 00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:17.200 that kind of thing. And that's true. And so I 318 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:23.799 think that really opens up a conversation and hopefully you 319 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:29.440 can fill a gap in really reviving sportsmanship in our 320 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:32.480 society because I think at the end of the day, 321 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:35.160 that's really what we need. And that goes from you know, 322 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:39.519 high school kids on a football field to you know, 323 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:43.880 grown men at a golf tournaments seeing wild things you know, 324 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:45.720 on a golf Absolutely too. 325 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:48.480 That's one of the things I work with the First 326 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:50.799 t program, and I work with six to ten year 327 00:20:50.839 --> 00:20:54.079 old kids on teaching them golf. But it's more to 328 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:57.000 me about teaching them what golf can teach you about 329 00:20:57.000 --> 00:20:59.839 life and how you can make it work to your benefit. 330 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:02.240 I'm curious, do you have any siblings. 331 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:02.880 I don't. 332 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:04.160 I'm actually an only child. 333 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:07.160 Okay, so you and your dad go watch baseball games. 334 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:09.319 I gotta believe if you grew up in Baton Rouge 335 00:21:09.319 --> 00:21:14.240 that you went to college baseball games. Yes, yes, absolutely, Okay, 336 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:17.200 all right, I want to get I want to talk 337 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:19.079 more about the book. I want to get into the 338 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:23.119 book and and talk about energy management, which is such 339 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:26.359 an interesting concept and how you got from that to curses. 340 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:28.240 But we'll do that when we come back. 341 00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:37.119 After Okay, all right, Mallory, I'm gonna I've you know, 342 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:39.920 isolated a bunch of quotes from your book. I'm still 343 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:42.319 reading it because I just got it the other day. 344 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:47.319 We set this up quickly, and everyone should know that. 345 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:54.079 Her website is Energetic Athlete, Energetic Athletics dot com, Energeticathletics 346 00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:59.480 dot com. And like early on, you're saying, being able 347 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:02.519 to success fully rally yourself and the people around you 348 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:07.279 while motivating them to reach greater heights together is an 349 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:11.480 extremely valuable skill. Okay, so now we're talking about coaching, 350 00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:15.759 but a lot of what we're talking about here is 351 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:18.200 coaching yourself right. 352 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:21.599 Yes, absolutely, and being able to be your own cheerleader 353 00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:26.559 and understanding that sometimes there's no one else in the 354 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:29.920 stands rooting for you. You have to be it, and 355 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:34.119 you have to be okay with that one and know 356 00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:36.759 how to do it, know how to cheer yourself on, 357 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:39.160 and like you said, you have to be your own 358 00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:41.920 coach sometimes that you know. 359 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:42.720 It is you. 360 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:45.519 It's you on the field, you know when it comes 361 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:48.119 down to it. And that's really the beauty of sports too, 362 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:51.759 is just the lessons that we can learn from ourselves. 363 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:53.920 And at the end of the day, we're really competing 364 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:56.920 against ourselves, not someone else. 365 00:22:57.599 --> 00:23:02.559 Right, right, play the course, your opponent, and especially in golf. 366 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:06.839 So I was hooked in the introduction of the book 367 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:09.799 because you talked about being a cheerleader and you have 368 00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:11.119 to be a cheerleader. 369 00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:16.359 And I've always been that kind of person. In high school. 370 00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:19.559 I did that was because I just wanted to be 371 00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:21.960 in front of a microphone in high school. Was like 372 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:24.400 I'm going to be a jockie, right, so it's like 373 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:26.759 give me a microphone and let's see what happens. And 374 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:28.559 I did that for a couple of years in high 375 00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:32.680 school and was just loved it. But I've also been 376 00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:37.799 the guy who always got the T shirt to like, yeah, 377 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:42.480 we're doing this right, And my kids are like, oh God, relax, 378 00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:46.160 but they're also kind of like that themselves. We're all 379 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:48.119 even my granddaughter, it's like. 380 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:49.160 Yeah, let's go. 381 00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:52.319 We're you know, we're all cheerleaders. In that sense, So 382 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:55.839 that jumped out at me immediately. I'm like, Okay, I'm 383 00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:56.480 gonna like this. 384 00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:03.200 So really is like cheerleading is so important and we 385 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:07.799 don't always get that, especially when we have to do 386 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:10.480 it for ourselves, because that can be really hard. And 387 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:12.799 like you said, we kind of go through I guess 388 00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:17.160 cycles where we can you know, muster up everything we 389 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:20.839 need and then then that kind of wilts a little bit. 390 00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:24.119 And that's energy management too, and we talk about how 391 00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:29.000 to keep that durability up, how to keep that positive 392 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:32.799 mindset because it is easy, like things are going to happen, 393 00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:37.359 You're going to you know, completely miss the tee. There's 394 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:39.559 you know, it's just it's you're going to have a 395 00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:42.599 bad day. So you have to be able to you know, 396 00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:45.319 get over it pretty much. 397 00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:49.359 Yeah, exactly, exactly, uh Page eighteen. 398 00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:52.039 You are responsible for the type of energy. 399 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:55.880 You choose to extend and express, whether high or low. 400 00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:58.880 The energy you put out will always be returned to you. 401 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:05.920