1 00:00:03,439 --> 00:00:06,719 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Alex Skwerdetski from Calgary, Alberta, Canada, and 2 00:00:06,759 --> 00:00:08,439 I play at Link's Ridge Golf Course. 3 00:00:08,839 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: This is Golf Smarter number nine hundred and ninety two. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,359 Speaker 3: And then we have unconscious curses. That's what we deal 5 00:00:15,439 --> 00:00:18,440 with mostly on a day to day basis because we 6 00:00:18,559 --> 00:00:22,000 don't understand that we're doing it a lot of the times. 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,920 And an unconscious curse is me in my head saying 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,480 I hope he misses that shot. That's an unconscious curse, 9 00:00:29,679 --> 00:00:32,439 or me saying, oh, I can't stand that person. I 10 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:35,719 hope they don't come to the Christmas party. That's sending 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,880 negative energy towards someone. You know, we're not taught that, 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,079 we're not given the information that that is actually doing something. 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,079 But everything is energy, the thoughts ideas everything. So when 14 00:00:49,079 --> 00:00:52,880 we're thinking in our heads, I want that person to fail, 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,520 that is laying an unconscious curse. Whether you understand that 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,600 you're doing it or not, you're still cursing someone. That's 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,920 what we also do to ourselves is unconscious curses typically, 18 00:01:06,079 --> 00:01:10,319 and that can be actual cursing like f me, you're 19 00:01:10,359 --> 00:01:13,200 cursing yourself, that's an unconscious curse. You don't really know 20 00:01:13,239 --> 00:01:15,640 you're doing it. If you knew you were, I think 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,799 you'd probably stop. So those are the two main categories, 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,439 conscious and unconscious. 23 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: Control your emotions, control your energy, control your game. With 24 00:01:30,079 --> 00:01:36,159 documentary filmmaker Mallory Kennedy, this is Golf Smarter, sharing stories, 25 00:01:36,239 --> 00:01:39,439 tips and insights from great golf minds to help you 26 00:01:39,519 --> 00:01:42,120 lower your score and raise your golf IQ. 27 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,879 Speaker 2: Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast. Mallory. 28 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,879 Speaker 4: Hello, Fred, I'm so happy to be here. 29 00:01:51,519 --> 00:01:52,599 Speaker 2: It's great to have you on. 30 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: This is going to be a fascinating conversation because over 31 00:01:55,599 --> 00:01:59,359 the years of Golf Smarter, and you know you're in 32 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,519 the nine one hundred and ninety episodes esque up in there, 33 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:09,680 I've covered the zen part of golf, flow state, mental game, 34 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:18,080 emotional game, biometrics, kinesiology, mindfulness, self hypnosis. But this is 35 00:02:18,159 --> 00:02:22,479 the first time that anyone has ever suggested the idea 36 00:02:22,759 --> 00:02:29,319 of energy controlling your energy or curses. And I'm like, 37 00:02:29,479 --> 00:02:32,280 oh no, Wit, this is too interesting and a real 38 00:02:33,159 --> 00:02:36,919 hard left turn on this. How did you get And 39 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,199 we'll talk about your book a lot, a lot of 40 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:45,400 notes and things that you've said, but you're not a doctor. 41 00:02:45,439 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: You're a filmmaker, right. 42 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,199 Speaker 4: Correct, a filmmaker and writer. 43 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,319 Speaker 2: Okay, how did you get to this? 44 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: It was a long journey, I'll say that, but you know, 45 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,879 I've really been all my life. I've been a tuned 46 00:03:00,199 --> 00:03:03,199 to energy, and I could see it just kind of 47 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,360 naturally as a child, and you know, it was something 48 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,919 I was honestly scared of because I just thought ghosts. 49 00:03:11,039 --> 00:03:13,919 You know, you're a little kid and you're afraid to 50 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,599 go to sleep because you know things are bumping around 51 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,680 and you're hearing other things that people don't see, and 52 00:03:20,199 --> 00:03:23,080 you just don't want to. So for a long time, 53 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,039 it was just a scary thing that I shut down, 54 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,319 really almost completely as much as I could, because too 55 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,759 when you talk to people about it, they're just like, oh, 56 00:03:33,039 --> 00:03:36,960 you know, that's your imagination and you kind of discredit it, 57 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,680 and they just don't want you to be scared, you know. 58 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,439 But then as I grew up and got a little 59 00:03:43,479 --> 00:03:45,599 more comfortable with it and saw that it was something 60 00:03:45,719 --> 00:03:50,120 also that was not going away, then I decided, well, 61 00:03:50,199 --> 00:03:54,199 I just need to make friends with it, and started 62 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,759 looking into it. I would say, on more of a 63 00:03:57,879 --> 00:04:02,800 formal level, just like a self study. And like you said, 64 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,800 I'm not like a doctor, and I did not go 65 00:04:04,919 --> 00:04:08,479 to a formal school for this, but a lot of 66 00:04:08,479 --> 00:04:11,120 it is what I would call a social study and 67 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,639 just people watching and watching people's careers and seeing patterns. 68 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:19,079 A lot of it is seeing patterns, I would say. 69 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:25,120 And once you understand the basics of how energy works, 70 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:31,120 you really start to see where curses come in. And 71 00:04:31,319 --> 00:04:34,399 people don't want to talk about curses because again, that's scary, 72 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:39,560 you know, that's on a ghost level. Yeah, and especially 73 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,519 in the West, we are not accustomed to speaking openly 74 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,759 about that sort of thing either. And other countries and 75 00:04:47,879 --> 00:04:52,839 other cultures that's different, you know, it's a little more common, 76 00:04:53,079 --> 00:04:55,959 and there are daily things that people do to kind 77 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,040 of ward against curses and that sort of thing. But 78 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,319 here in the West, we're kind of left to our 79 00:05:01,319 --> 00:05:04,839 own devices a bit. And the only time we hear 80 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,199 or think about curses, especially in terms of sports, is 81 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,839 like baseball or something big like Red Sox, you know, 82 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:19,000 the Cubs. But if big franchises and let's say, you know, 83 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,680 whoever's on the cover of Madden this year, if they're 84 00:05:21,759 --> 00:05:27,000 susceptible to curses, well everyone is that it's not just 85 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,199 picking professionals, you know, it's not going on text bracket alone. 86 00:05:31,399 --> 00:05:33,040 This is actually something. 87 00:05:32,879 --> 00:05:36,199 Speaker 4: That affects all of us. 88 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: And I think it's time that, you know, people really 89 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:44,160 start paying attention to that, because it is, like you said, 90 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,759 something that people just don't even really think about in 91 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:53,279 terms of injury and slumps and just bizarre failures. And 92 00:05:53,319 --> 00:05:57,480 that's on the field and off everything that we talk about. 93 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:03,079 Of course, it has an athletic application, but it also 94 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,199 has a real life application to So everything you can 95 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,519 learn that can help your golf game will also help you, 96 00:06:09,519 --> 00:06:11,800 you know, in the boardroom or just every day with 97 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:16,639 your family. And curses, the best way to think of 98 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,600 them is really the opposite of blessings. If you believe 99 00:06:20,759 --> 00:06:24,279 in blessings and the power of prayer, then you pretty 100 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:27,920 much automatically believe in curses too. They go hand in hand. 101 00:06:28,319 --> 00:06:32,360 It's just poor opposites. If you're praying for someone and 102 00:06:32,399 --> 00:06:36,399 sending them blessings, you are sending them a river of 103 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,199 good vibes, You're sending them good energy. But if you're 104 00:06:40,319 --> 00:06:43,879 in your head saying, oh, I hope that person you 105 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,319 know doesn't make it to the meeting, today, you're actually 106 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,120 sending them bad energy. Or if you're on the golf 107 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,720 course and you're saying miss it, miss it in your head, 108 00:06:53,199 --> 00:06:54,680 you're actually sending. 109 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,079 Speaker 4: Out a curse. 110 00:06:56,879 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: Yes you are, you are, and you don't. 111 00:06:58,920 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: Even realize it. 112 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,959 Speaker 3: And so when we talk hand in hand of blessings 113 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:07,879 and curses, you also have to start talking about karmic return. 114 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,920 And this is where we can kind of control what 115 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:17,199 goes out and comes back at us by how we 116 00:07:17,399 --> 00:07:21,319 start to treat others and ourselves, because a lot of 117 00:07:21,319 --> 00:07:26,160 it is, you know, self mindset of how you view yourself. 118 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,839 If you think, oh, gosh, I'm a loser, I can't 119 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:31,399 make this putt, then you're not gonna make it. You're 120 00:07:31,399 --> 00:07:35,279 cursing yourself, you know. And that's really what the book 121 00:07:35,319 --> 00:07:39,560 goes into. And it's an element of what I call 122 00:07:39,879 --> 00:07:45,759 energy management, and that is the active monitoring of your 123 00:07:45,879 --> 00:07:50,519 own personal energy so that you can use it to 124 00:07:50,759 --> 00:07:55,480 one defend against curses and low energy that may sabotage 125 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,399 your game, whether that's coming from someone else or yourself. 126 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,439 Speaker 4: And then it also can. 127 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: Help you with your overall wellness and your personal health 128 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,240 and help you just live a better, happier life and 129 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,560 get a lot of low negative energy out of your way, 130 00:08:14,839 --> 00:08:16,519 because at the end of the day, a lot of 131 00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:19,759 times we're our own worst enemy when it comes to mindset. 132 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: Right. Right, So when you referred to the being in 133 00:08:25,759 --> 00:08:29,800 the West, I'm assuming you're mean the global West and 134 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,920 you're talking about the United States and our and our 135 00:08:31,959 --> 00:08:37,759 young civilization. But I am a lifelong Californian, so I'm 136 00:08:37,759 --> 00:08:38,320 in the West. 137 00:08:38,639 --> 00:08:40,919 Speaker 2: So when you say that, but you. 138 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: Tell me where you came from where, because doesn't exist 139 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:46,840 where I am. 140 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: But you have issues like this that are part of 141 00:08:53,159 --> 00:08:55,039 the culture. Where did you grow up. 142 00:08:55,039 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: That I actually grew up in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, And go, okay, 143 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,639 you're very well. My family at least we're very used 144 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,159 to you know, voodoo. 145 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,759 Speaker 4: Who do you know Creole magic? 146 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,919 Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, everywhere it's a way of a family, 147 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,080 a family there. And they took us to a haunted 148 00:09:17,399 --> 00:09:20,480 it was in actually it was in New Orleans, near Orleans, 149 00:09:21,039 --> 00:09:25,480 and it was they like took us to haunted houses. Right, 150 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,879 it's like a regular part of the culture there. 151 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,159 Speaker 4: It is. It is, It definitely is. 152 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,919 Speaker 3: There's actually a law in New Orleans where I'm not 153 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:35,919 positive it's still on the books, but I know it 154 00:09:36,039 --> 00:09:38,480 used to be where if you're selling a house you 155 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,039 have to divulge if it's haunted or not, and sometimes 156 00:09:42,039 --> 00:09:43,120 that's a selling point. 157 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,279 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah. 158 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 4: But it is. It's a it's just part of the 159 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,159 culture where we are. 160 00:09:49,279 --> 00:09:52,879 Speaker 3: And then it's also taboo at the same time too, 161 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,720 which is odd, but I guess that's because of you're 162 00:09:56,759 --> 00:09:59,480 still in the Bible belt, and a lot of times 163 00:09:59,519 --> 00:10:03,559 when you start talking about energy openly, people who are 164 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:09,559 from fundamental Christian backgrounds or traditional religious backgrounds can really 165 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,919 like put up a wall and they think, you know, 166 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,879 this might be spiritually risky, but it's not. And I 167 00:10:16,879 --> 00:10:21,360 think that's a common misconception that we do need to 168 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,559 clear up because it can be scary. I was raised 169 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,320 in a Baptist church. My mother's Catholic. Like I understand 170 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,600 you get the wide eyes when you start talking about curses. 171 00:10:33,759 --> 00:10:38,279 So I would say that it is a mixed bag 172 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:43,000 still even where I live in New Orleans where we 173 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:49,039 moved from. But I think that athletes in particular are 174 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,679 a group that is primed to learn about the power 175 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,879 of energy and how it can help them because athletes 176 00:10:58,919 --> 00:11:03,600 are teachable, and they're coachable, and they're typically results based, 177 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,600 so they'll try almost anything, even if it's a little unorthodox. 178 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,960 I would say, you know, they're usually willing to give 179 00:11:12,039 --> 00:11:16,320 something a try, and there are most athletes are already 180 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,559 used to visualization practices, and that's a lot of what 181 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,279 this is based upon is visualization. 182 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,919 Speaker 1: I'm curious to know how your family feels about you 183 00:11:35,759 --> 00:11:40,399 bringing up this topic publicly and it's like, don't go there. 184 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,360 Are they concerned about it? Does it make them nervous 185 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,120 or they're all, yeah, go for it. 186 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 3: I would say that it's been there's been a progression. 187 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,440 At first, it was just. 188 00:11:55,399 --> 00:11:56,759 Speaker 4: Mallory. She's just crazy. 189 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:57,039 Speaker 1: You know. 190 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,159 Speaker 3: Sometimes I would just talk about wild things and you know, 191 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,919 that's okay. I was always you know, they're used to 192 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,919 me exploring topics. You know, I'm very open to exploring, 193 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,679 and I think they thought maybe that's what this was 194 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,600 at first, And actually, I guess I should say in 195 00:12:14,639 --> 00:12:18,879 twenty sixteen, in Baton Rouge, we had a really. 196 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 4: Historic flood. 197 00:12:21,159 --> 00:12:23,919 Speaker 3: It was a great flood and we were affected by 198 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,559 it and I got really sick afterwards from being in 199 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,799 the water, and I honestly thought I was. 200 00:12:30,759 --> 00:12:33,879 Speaker 4: Like possibly dying. It was that bad. 201 00:12:33,919 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: I was unable to eat, my body just stopped accepting food, 202 00:12:37,879 --> 00:12:40,799 and I'd gone in and out of hospitals and emergency 203 00:12:40,879 --> 00:12:44,120 rooms just trying to find answers. And of course all 204 00:12:44,159 --> 00:12:47,879 the test results are fine, you know you're in perfect health. No, 205 00:12:48,279 --> 00:12:54,360 I'm absolutely not. I'm like gray. And that's really when 206 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:59,519 I started looking into the energy side of mindset and 207 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,559 health and where those connections were of wellness, because it 208 00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:07,360 came to a point where I knew doctors weren't clearly 209 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,919 not going to be able to help me. It was 210 00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:12,960 up to me, and I had to figure out how 211 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,360 to pick myself up off the couch and just say 212 00:13:16,799 --> 00:13:18,799 I'm going to do this, I'm going to live, I'm 213 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,159 going to be I'm going to be well again. And 214 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,080 it was a journey through the health part and then 215 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:30,840 figuring out that health and your surroundings and also your 216 00:13:30,919 --> 00:13:37,200 behavior all contribute to your overall wellness. And that's really 217 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:41,559 when I started connecting the dots of energy management. And 218 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:48,039 really it's all about self awareness and radical honesty of 219 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:52,679 things you need to change and actually making those changes 220 00:13:52,759 --> 00:13:56,279 and not just saying okay, well this will make me better. 221 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,919 Speaker 4: But you actually have to do it too. 222 00:13:59,519 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: And that's how I started connecting the dots of energy management, 223 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:10,960 mindset and results of physical results that you could actually see, 224 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:17,440 and healing like rebound of healing. And that's also where 225 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:22,440 I started seeing where I was cursing myself in areas 226 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,840 of mindset, and then how my environment around me was 227 00:14:26,919 --> 00:14:30,840 not conducive to healing and it was not conducive to 228 00:14:31,919 --> 00:14:33,399 being a better person either. 229 00:14:33,879 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 4: And then, as we discuss in the book, when. 230 00:14:37,159 --> 00:14:44,279 Speaker 3: You rectify all those issues, you actually start seeing immense 231 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,919 benefits and durability, your increase durability. 232 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 4: And when you. 233 00:14:51,799 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: Can get all of that out of your way and 234 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:59,279 then have that self awareness moving forward, you can apply 235 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,120 it to a game, any game, the game of life, 236 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:10,200 game of chess, golf, anything, and you really can become 237 00:15:10,279 --> 00:15:13,799 more in control of what happens to you on and 238 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,399 off the field. And I think once they saw my family, 239 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,360 once they saw that this was becoming a way of 240 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,440 life and not just talking points, then they started listening. 241 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,080 And then slowly I could see that they it was 242 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,320 syncing in what I was saying, and I could see 243 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,960 that they were also applying some things to their lives 244 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,480 and seeing results as well. 245 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,639 Speaker 4: So I would say it's been kind of a lead by. 246 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: Example situation, but you do have to be ready for 247 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:50,200 people just to look at you like your nuts at first. Absolutely, yeah, 248 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,080 but it just comes with the territory. 249 00:15:53,679 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: But what came first, so clearly your your illness, and 250 00:15:57,279 --> 00:16:01,080 I'm so glad that you're better and you're back. But 251 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,039 where where did how did it get from there to 252 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,279 start working with athletes. 253 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:11,519 Speaker 3: I've actually always been involved with sports pretty much all 254 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:12,320 of my life. 255 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 4: I worked in sports. 256 00:16:15,799 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: I was a writer for a football magazine in Baton Rouge, 257 00:16:18,759 --> 00:16:22,720 Louisiana Football Magazine. I also worked for Marucci Back Company, 258 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,799 which is now Marucci Sports. 259 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 4: And life for. 260 00:16:27,399 --> 00:16:31,799 Speaker 3: Me always revolved around sports with my family, you know, 261 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:35,120 going to L s U football games and anything on 262 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,000 the Tigers schedule was you know, that's just what you did. 263 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 4: It's a way of life. 264 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: Sports and life in general have never been separate. They've 265 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,039 there's always been an element of play, and I think 266 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:51,480 that is really important, and having an element of play 267 00:16:51,919 --> 00:16:56,559 and keeping it play and not being too serious about it. 268 00:16:56,919 --> 00:17:00,159 And something that you know you can use is camaraderie 269 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,840 with friends or family. 270 00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:03,879 Speaker 4: And it's it's a bonding experience. 271 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,279 Speaker 3: It was something I always did with my dad, and 272 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,880 you know, I liked baseball, he liked baseball, so we 273 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:14,720 went together, you know, And so sports have meant family 274 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:20,200 for me. Really, it's there's there's there's no separation whatsoever. 275 00:17:21,079 --> 00:17:25,160 So that naturally led into my career. And then, like 276 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:29,359 I said, I was a nonprofit fundraiser and put on 277 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:35,279 a lot of golf tournaments. And then when I was, 278 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:39,119 like I said, going through everything I went through, I 279 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,559 started writing about it. I'm naturally a writer, so I'm 280 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,599 writing about what I know, and I started out on 281 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:52,240 the health side of things, and then feminine issues, women's 282 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:57,240 life issues, that kind of thing, And honestly, there was not. 283 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,559 Speaker 4: A lot of response. 284 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 3: People are happy how they are, most of them. And 285 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,880 then I saw this opening. I guess I would mostly 286 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,960 say that it was shown to me that athletes are 287 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,680 a group that are primed for this type of learning, 288 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:22,160 and it, like we've talked about, it has game time 289 00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:27,160 and life benefits, and I think it's also really needed 290 00:18:27,279 --> 00:18:31,640 right now. I guess about a year ago, I was 291 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,839 at home visiting in Baton Rouge and watching the news 292 00:18:34,839 --> 00:18:37,160 with my dad and I was sitting there and this 293 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,200 story came on and it was all about how they 294 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,279 were having to cancel high school football games because they 295 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:52,119 couldn't get referees, because the referees themselves were afraid of 296 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:57,200 the students, the student athletes because problems they'd have a games, 297 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,839 and then parents, and that they did not feel enough 298 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,640 to actually come and officiate a high school game. And 299 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,559 this was going on across the state. It was, you know, 300 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,079 state news. It wasn't just happening in one city. And 301 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:17,440 that floored me. And you know, the base of energy management, 302 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,680 a lot of it is our mindset, how we treat 303 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,640 each other's, how we treat people, coming back to the 304 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,680 golden rule, and I felt like this was an opportunity 305 00:19:26,759 --> 00:19:32,359 to try to get a sportsmanship message out there that's 306 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,519 a little different. That's not just oh, you need to 307 00:19:36,559 --> 00:19:40,160 be a good person. But if you come to someone 308 00:19:40,279 --> 00:19:43,119 and say, look, if you do this, this and this, 309 00:19:43,319 --> 00:19:48,200 and you're nicer and you're more of a sportsman in 310 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,559 your day to day life with your team, with your family, 311 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,920 you can actually enhance your athletic performance. That's coming at 312 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,039 it from a different angle, that's saying, okay, tell me 313 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,079 more you know what other kind of benefits can I get? 314 00:20:03,279 --> 00:20:06,759 Is it really connected? It's not just being a good person. 315 00:20:06,839 --> 00:20:10,240 I can actually control if I'm in a slump, if 316 00:20:10,279 --> 00:20:13,079 I'm being you know, not so nice to my coach, 317 00:20:13,839 --> 00:20:17,200 that kind of thing. And that's true. And so I 318 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:23,799 think that really opens up a conversation and hopefully you 319 00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:29,440 can fill a gap in really reviving sportsmanship in our 320 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:32,480 society because I think at the end of the day, 321 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,160 that's really what we need. And that goes from you know, 322 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,519 high school kids on a football field to you know, 323 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,880 grown men at a golf tournaments seeing wild things you know, 324 00:20:44,079 --> 00:20:45,720 on a golf Absolutely too. 325 00:20:46,279 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: That's one of the things I work with the First 326 00:20:48,519 --> 00:20:50,799 t program, and I work with six to ten year 327 00:20:50,839 --> 00:20:54,079 old kids on teaching them golf. But it's more to 328 00:20:54,079 --> 00:20:57,000 me about teaching them what golf can teach you about 329 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,839 life and how you can make it work to your benefit. 330 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,240 I'm curious, do you have any siblings. 331 00:21:02,519 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 3: I don't. 332 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 4: I'm actually an only child. 333 00:21:04,599 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so you and your dad go watch baseball games. 334 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,319 I gotta believe if you grew up in Baton Rouge 335 00:21:09,319 --> 00:21:14,240 that you went to college baseball games. Yes, yes, absolutely, Okay, 336 00:21:14,279 --> 00:21:17,200 all right, I want to get I want to talk 337 00:21:17,279 --> 00:21:19,079 more about the book. I want to get into the 338 00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:23,119 book and and talk about energy management, which is such 339 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,359 an interesting concept and how you got from that to curses. 340 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: But we'll do that when we come back. 341 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: After Okay, all right, Mallory, I'm gonna I've you know, 342 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,920 isolated a bunch of quotes from your book. I'm still 343 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,319 reading it because I just got it the other day. 344 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,319 We set this up quickly, and everyone should know that. 345 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:54,079 Her website is Energetic Athlete, Energetic Athletics dot com, Energeticathletics 346 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:59,480 dot com. And like early on, you're saying, being able 347 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:02,519 to success fully rally yourself and the people around you 348 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,279 while motivating them to reach greater heights together is an 349 00:22:07,319 --> 00:22:11,480 extremely valuable skill. Okay, so now we're talking about coaching, 350 00:22:13,039 --> 00:22:15,759 but a lot of what we're talking about here is 351 00:22:15,799 --> 00:22:18,200 coaching yourself right. 352 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,599 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, and being able to be your own cheerleader 353 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,559 and understanding that sometimes there's no one else in the 354 00:22:26,599 --> 00:22:29,920 stands rooting for you. You have to be it, and 355 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,119 you have to be okay with that one and know 356 00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:36,759 how to do it, know how to cheer yourself on, 357 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:39,160 and like you said, you have to be your own 358 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,920 coach sometimes that you know. 359 00:22:42,079 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: It is you. 360 00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:45,519 Speaker 3: It's you on the field, you know when it comes 361 00:22:45,559 --> 00:22:48,119 down to it. And that's really the beauty of sports too, 362 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,759 is just the lessons that we can learn from ourselves. 363 00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:53,920 And at the end of the day, we're really competing 364 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,920 against ourselves, not someone else. 365 00:22:57,599 --> 00:23:02,559 Speaker 1: Right, right, play the course, your opponent, and especially in golf. 366 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:06,839 So I was hooked in the introduction of the book 367 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,799 because you talked about being a cheerleader and you have 368 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,119 to be a cheerleader. 369 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: And I've always been that kind of person. In high school. 370 00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:19,559 Speaker 1: I did that was because I just wanted to be 371 00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:21,960 in front of a microphone in high school. Was like 372 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,400 I'm going to be a jockie, right, so it's like 373 00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:26,759 give me a microphone and let's see what happens. And 374 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,559 I did that for a couple of years in high 375 00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:32,680 school and was just loved it. But I've also been 376 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:37,799 the guy who always got the T shirt to like, yeah, 377 00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:42,480 we're doing this right, And my kids are like, oh God, relax, 378 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,160 but they're also kind of like that themselves. We're all 379 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,119 even my granddaughter, it's like. 380 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. 381 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,319 Speaker 1: We're you know, we're all cheerleaders. In that sense, So 382 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,839 that jumped out at me immediately. I'm like, Okay, I'm 383 00:23:55,839 --> 00:23:56,480 gonna like this. 384 00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 3: So really is like cheerleading is so important and we 385 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,799 don't always get that, especially when we have to do 386 00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:10,480 it for ourselves, because that can be really hard. And 387 00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:12,799 like you said, we kind of go through I guess 388 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:17,160 cycles where we can you know, muster up everything we 389 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:20,839 need and then then that kind of wilts a little bit. 390 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,119 And that's energy management too, and we talk about how 391 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:29,000 to keep that durability up, how to keep that positive 392 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,799 mindset because it is easy, like things are going to happen, 393 00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:37,359 You're going to you know, completely miss the tee. There's 394 00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:39,559 you know, it's just it's you're going to have a 395 00:24:39,599 --> 00:24:42,599 bad day. So you have to be able to you know, 396 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,319 get over it pretty much. 397 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly, uh Page eighteen. 398 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,039 Speaker 2: You are responsible for the type of energy. 399 00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: You choose to extend and express, whether high or low. 400 00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:58,880 The energy you put out will always be returned to you. 401 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 5: Going back to karma, Yes, karma, and that's a major 402 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:11,559 major part of energy management, is karma management and just 403 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,920 trying to keep our vibration and the energy of our 404 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,200 own personal energy as high as possible or neutral. 405 00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:26,039 Speaker 3: We kind of go into that too, the power of neutrality. 406 00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:33,599 But where people don't always I would say where they're 407 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,480 not as mindful is with our surroundings, and that can 408 00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:42,400 be the people we associate with, our family, our household, 409 00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:46,079 the vibe of our office, this wherever you spend the 410 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:52,240 most of your time. The energy of those places are important, 411 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:58,200 and we resonate with whatever we are around. Whatever we ingest, 412 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,400 and ingesting does always mean food, that means what we 413 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,799 watch on TV, what we listen to, the music we 414 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,240 listen to is extremely important and that all affects our resonance, 415 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:14,839 and we will simplify it to high and low, just 416 00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:20,240 you know, for ease, and the higher your resonance, the 417 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:26,720 higher more positive experiences, whether that's sinking a putt or 418 00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:31,880 you know, just having good outcomes in life, You're going. 419 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: To have more of that. 420 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,079 Speaker 3: The higher energy you keep around you. So that is 421 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,119 a part of energy management, being able to be self 422 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,319 aware enough to say, maybe I shouldn't be, you know, 423 00:26:43,599 --> 00:26:46,200 going out late on this night before a big game. 424 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,920 You know, that's weakening my energy, or just little things. 425 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,359 Maybe I should be getting more rest or maybe I 426 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,440 shouldn't be hanging out with this person who's kind of 427 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,039 draining me a little, you know, or whatever you're eating 428 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,920 or drinking. If you're addicted to energy drinks or things 429 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,960 like that, that can really diminish your energy and cause you, 430 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,319 you know, body mind, spirit to go down a little bit. 431 00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:13,359 And that also affects your play. It's all connected. Everything 432 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,720 is connected everything we do, and. 433 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 4: It's really. 434 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 3: I would call it. It changes in real time, I 435 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,599 would say. So, just like you're talking about being able 436 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,960 to cheerlead yourself, you can flip the energy really quick. 437 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,519 Speaker 4: But you have to do it. 438 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 3: You have to stop and say, Okay, I'm feeling really 439 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,680 mad or upset. This is okay. This is you know, 440 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,079 a human experience. It's okay to feel mad or angry 441 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,759 that you are just having a terrible game. But let's 442 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,119 figure it out. Let's bring it up a little and 443 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,640 at least just have fun, you know, trying to find 444 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,680 the silver lining and just bringing things back to the 445 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,680 positive as much as we can in order to flip 446 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,480 the energy, because that's how you can get out of 447 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:06,240 slumps and that sort of thing. And that's where it 448 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,839 comes in really handy when you apply it to athletics. 449 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I could, I could easily bring it 450 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,680 back and ask you to bring it back to golf. 451 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,000 But I think that the audience is skilled enough at 452 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,200 this point, if they're an audience member of this show, 453 00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:26,920 to understand how this relates to golf and what they 454 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,279 can do on their own to use this information to 455 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,279 their advantage. So I'm going to highly recommend the book. 456 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,240 I if this, if this connects with you, check the 457 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:46,200 book out. We'll get more into that later. But let's 458 00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:52,720 go into the types of curses you talk about. Now, 459 00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:55,519 we've talked about energy, we're talking about curses. We're going 460 00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:57,599 back and forth and we will continue to do that 461 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,079 because that's what this book is about. Uh So let's 462 00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:03,240 let's talk about the types of curses. 463 00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 3: Yes, And like you said, all all this energy that 464 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,039 we're talking about and curses, it's all intertwined, it all 465 00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:13,599 works together, it's all interconnected. So the types of curses 466 00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:20,240 we talk about two categories, which is conscious that's curses 467 00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:22,519 that I'm saying, I'm laying a. 468 00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:24,039 Speaker 4: Hex on you. 469 00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 3: You know that you might hear about that kind of thing, 470 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,720 and like witchcraft or you know, it doesn't have to 471 00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:33,359 be ritualized. It doesn't have to be spells, but it 472 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,599 can be. But conscious is just I'm doing this on 473 00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:39,720 purpose and I know what I'm doing. 474 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 4: That's the first category. The second category. 475 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: Spells, that's that's from your neck of the woods. 476 00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:51,039 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, incantations, that kind of thing when you're talking 477 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:55,279 about like voodoo dolls, sending you know that kind of thing, 478 00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:58,599 black magic, that's what we're talking about. 479 00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: And I know that wild no, but I just want 480 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,400 to I want to put it out there. If if 481 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,799 you're listening and you live in Louisiana and this is 482 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:10,559 resonating so well, so well with you, please let me know, 483 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,839 Please write to me. I'd love to hear from you 484 00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:15,400 to say, oh, yeah, that's that's how we grew up, 485 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,400 no problem, so go ahead. 486 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: And so conscious curses and then we have unconscious curses, 487 00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:26,200 which is really that's what we deal with mostly. I 488 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,480 would say, like you and me on a day to 489 00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:32,440 day basis, because we don't understand that we're doing it 490 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,440 a lot of the times. And an unconscious curse is 491 00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:40,880 me in my head saying I hope he misses that shot. 492 00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:44,720 That's an unconscious curse, or me saying, oh I can't 493 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,640 stand that person I hope they don't come to the 494 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,720 Christmas party, you know, just like that's sending negative energy 495 00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:55,400 towards someone. And you know, we're not taught that, we're 496 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,519 not we're not given the information that that is actually 497 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,000 doing something. But you know, everything is energy, the thoughts 498 00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:08,519 ideas everything. So when we're thinking in our heads, you know, 499 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:14,000 I want that person to you know, let's say I 500 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,720 don't know, I want that person to fail. That is 501 00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:22,119 laying an unconscious curse. Whether you understand that you're doing 502 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,960 it or not, you're still cursing someone. 503 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 4: And that's that's. 504 00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:33,079 Speaker 3: What we also do to ourselves, is unconscious curses typically, 505 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,839 and that can be actual cursing, like language like saying 506 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,319 you know, f me, you know that sort of thing. 507 00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:45,039 You're cursing yourself. That's an unconscious curse. You don't really 508 00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:47,400 know you're doing it. If you knew you were, I 509 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,440 think you'd probably stop. And so those are the two 510 00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:57,000 main categories, conscious and unconscious. And what we go into 511 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:02,559 is that we really can't control what other people send 512 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,160 our way. I can't control where your mind's going. And 513 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:12,000 if you're saying, oh, I hope she fails, but I 514 00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:16,839 can control my own energy and my own energy body, 515 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,319 which when you start to learn about connecting to your 516 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,839 energy body, you start to understand that it is actually 517 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:31,319 your personal defense system, and we can strengthen this energy 518 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:37,079 system to be able to ward against curses unconscious or conscious. 519 00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:42,440 And so that's where we move from. There is okay, 520 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,759 this is what curses are. These are how they're sent 521 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,920 to us. They're just thought projections. It's just the opposite 522 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,599 of blessings, you know, So it's not anything to be 523 00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:56,720 afraid of, is really what the book focuses on, because 524 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,200 fear feeds curses regards wardless of if I send it, 525 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,640 or if I'm sending them to myself, or if someone 526 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,599 else send it to me. If I start falling into 527 00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:12,480 fear or fearful mindsets or a low energy, if it 528 00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:16,920 starts affecting me and then I start piling onto it, 529 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,400 it creates a snowball effect and it will just get 530 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,880 worse and worse. But if you have a strong energetic 531 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:30,039 defense system, if you have a strong shield, you are 532 00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:33,799 a lot less affected by these thought forms that are 533 00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:38,599 coming at you, and your game is protected in a sense, 534 00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:42,880 and you can learn how to clear these things out 535 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,079 of your field. If they get stuck in your field, 536 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,880 so that other people saying miss it, miss it, miss 537 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,039 it doesn't actually make you miss. 538 00:33:52,799 --> 00:34:02,279 Speaker 1: It's that you keep talking about energy the way you are, 539 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,119 not energy fields, but your own personal energy. When my 540 00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:12,239 younger son was probably in third or fourth grade, the 541 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,239 teacher pulled him aside said mister Green, you've got a 542 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,719 lot of energy, and he went, well, that's my name 543 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,639 spelled backwards. 544 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 2: Because it's g R E E N E backwards is 545 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,480 E N E R G energy. 546 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,639 Speaker 1: And he came home and told us that was like, 547 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,000 where did you How did you come up with that? 548 00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:36,079 Have you never even thought of that? I don't know, 549 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,760 just sort of looked like to me, it's like, wow, okay, 550 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:46,599 my energy, high energy, high energy kid. Definitely hi, high 551 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,880 energy family. Absolutely, I've had I have now two daughters 552 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,159 in law. 553 00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: It's like I can't keep up with you guys. 554 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: When you all get together, it's you know, yeah, we're 555 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:57,519 loud and proud. 556 00:34:57,679 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: Okay, good thing. Yeah it's a great thing. 557 00:35:01,639 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: Let's get back to self sabotage and how it relates 558 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,960 to golfers all the time. 559 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I would say. 560 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:18,639 Speaker 3: The biggest thing that I see pattern wise for cursing 561 00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:24,519 yourself and sabotaging yourself in your own game is attitude 562 00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:29,000 and language. You know, our attitudes really control everything that 563 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,599 come at us. Like if if you have a bad attitude, 564 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,719 you're probably going to have things that come at you 565 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,000 that make you have even more of a bad attitude. 566 00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:43,119 If you have a positive attitude, you're going to have 567 00:35:43,159 --> 00:35:49,519 experiences that enhance that positive attitude. It really is about resonance, 568 00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:53,519 and we can control that. And one way is our attitude. 569 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,320 Even if you know things aren't going your way during 570 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,840 the game, you have to be able to come back 571 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:03,559 to uh why you played to begin with. You need 572 00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:06,320 to bring it back to fun. You need to be Okay, 573 00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:09,360 maybe I'm having a bad day, but at least I'm 574 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,920 out in nature, you know, green grass, blue sky, there's 575 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,679 fresh air. Like look for the silver linings, look for 576 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,079 the good things. Look for something to pull you out 577 00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:21,320 of that slump, you know, out of that energetic slump, 578 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,039 because that's what it is. And you have to be 579 00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:28,719 able to recognize, Okay, I need to fix this. It's 580 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,760 all about self accountability. I can't fix self hexes for you. 581 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,239 You have to fix them for yourself. And one of 582 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,920 that one of the ways we do that is controlling 583 00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:46,000 our language. And you know, cursing does exactly that. Cursing 584 00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:50,039 curses you. So if you can clean up your language 585 00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:53,960 on the course and off, you're going to find that 586 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,119 there's a lot less resistance coming at you because you're 587 00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:06,519 not cursing your self anymore. And you know, language in general, 588 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,440 when we talk about like magic and that sort of thing, 589 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:16,159 you start seeing the similarities of just spelling and spells 590 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,079 and cursing and curses. Like language is so important, and 591 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:25,039 how we talk to ourselves is so important, you know, 592 00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:27,519 as well as how we talk to others. But how 593 00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:32,679 we talk to ourselves is an area that really everybody 594 00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:33,639 could use help with. 595 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,559 Speaker 1: I think, oh absolutely, And it leads to what you 596 00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:40,320 talk about us our ultimate superpowers. 597 00:37:41,679 --> 00:37:46,119 Speaker 3: Your calm is your superpower. It absolutely is in you know, 598 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,920 every situation pretty much, calm will save you almost every time. 599 00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:55,239 That's the lesson I've had to learn, and I think 600 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,800 especially athletes and young athletes, I think it's important that 601 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:05,280 the learn that too, and that you know, it's easy 602 00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:10,800 to fly off the rails when things go bad. It 603 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,840 is hard to keep yourself centered and stay calm. But 604 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,480 the more you do it, the easier it becomes. It 605 00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:21,480 is just like a muscle. You have to practice getting 606 00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:26,760 over it, almost like time trials, like how how quickly 607 00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:29,920 can I just move on? How quickly can I even 608 00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:33,639 just forget about it? Put it behind you? And you know, 609 00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:38,039 even if that's just going back to the fun and 610 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:41,440 trying to remember, you know, the little kid that wanted 611 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,000 to be a golfer, you know, trying to hang on 612 00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:48,480 to those things, that really helps. But language and attitude 613 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,360 are really the biggest ways we sabotage ourselves. And I 614 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,199 think we know that it's like common sense, but we 615 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,000 don't always apply it to our lives. 616 00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: Right, right, and brings it brings back the neutrality part. 617 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,719 You mentioned the power of neutrality, and so you're calm, 618 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:13,159 being calm, being a superpower. But explain how neutrality works 619 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,400 in that again on the golf course. 620 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:23,159 Speaker 3: On the golf course, especially golf is really a good 621 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:29,280 place to start practicing energy management because it's an individual sport. 622 00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:33,159 You can do trial and error and see how things 623 00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:36,920 are working for you easier than say, with an entire team. 624 00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:43,360 So I would say that when you are on the course, 625 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,519 when you are able to reach that neutral space. And 626 00:39:48,639 --> 00:39:51,679 we don't mean blank when we say neutral. It's just 627 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,599 if I make this shot, yeah, I'm going to celebrate 628 00:39:56,639 --> 00:39:58,079 and it's going to be an amazing day and I'm 629 00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:01,480 buying everyone drinks. But if I won't make it, that's 630 00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:04,880 okay too. It's been a good day, you know, we're here. 631 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,960 That's neutrality. It's not having an attachment to that outcome 632 00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:12,519 of oh, if I don't make this shot, you know, 633 00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:15,880 the world's gonna end or you know, and that gets tough, 634 00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:19,559 especially when you know we bet on holes or there's 635 00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:23,119 money involved and things like that that can get difficult 636 00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:26,159 to get back to, you know, just the pure essence 637 00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:29,199 of the game and that enjoyability and what it was 638 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,800 truly meant to be, you know in the beginning. But 639 00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:39,679 that neutrality really just it connects you with the flow. 640 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,679 And like as we said, everything is connected in or connected, 641 00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:49,639 and especially in golf. When you're just in the middle 642 00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:52,840 of beautiful nature and you know you have grass under 643 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,679 your feet and the sky above, you connect with that 644 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,920 flow when you're in that neutral state, and you will 645 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:07,159 see that it actually improves your physical ability. Your calm 646 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:13,840 mental state allows the physical to follow suit. And find success. 647 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:24,199 It's all connected, and if we can maintain those calm states, 648 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:29,280 it really will improve every area of your life, including 649 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:36,840 your game. It's really fascinating to see how easy it 650 00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:40,360 is and that it really is all about imagination. It's 651 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,920 as simple as imagining your own energetic bubble around you 652 00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:49,960 and just clearing that with your mind and then. 653 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,039 Speaker 4: Taking your shot. It can be that easy. 654 00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:57,519 Speaker 3: It is not time consuming, I know, Like in the book, 655 00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:01,639 it walks you through steps of all the different exercises 656 00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:04,920 and how to connect and how to start becoming more 657 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,719 in tune with your own energy. And I think sometimes 658 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,519 when we break things down step by step, it can 659 00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:12,719 almost get more difficult. 660 00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:15,599 Speaker 4: And it truly is. 661 00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:20,039 Speaker 3: As simple as connecting to this big bubble of energy 662 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:24,000 that we all have around us and learning how to 663 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,639 enhance that energetic field and get it as strong as 664 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:34,119 possible so that life and gameplay becomes a breeze and 665 00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:38,280 more enjoyable too. I feel that energy management, when applied 666 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:43,320 to athletics, puts the enjoyment back into it for a 667 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,480 lot of folks, that it's not just this slog of 668 00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:50,760 something that's kicking my butt and you know, I'm just 669 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,719 not excelling at you can. It really puts perspective I 670 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,199 believe back into play and I do think play is 671 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,559 so important just in all aspects of our lives. 672 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 2: You mentioned just a few minutes ago. 673 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: It reminded me of an episode that we did years 674 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:18,480 ago that was called NATO Golf NATO being not attached 675 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,159 to outcome. You talked about not being attached outcome and 676 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,079 how that can help, and there you go. It's it's 677 00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:30,280 a recurring theme here. But the two is it three 678 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,679 sentences but ten words nine words that you wrote in 679 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,599 the book that flew off the page to me. And 680 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,639 I was so happy when I went to your website 681 00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:42,760 and saw those words on your video that you put 682 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:49,000 on it's control your emotions, control your energy, control the game. 683 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 4: Yes, i'd come up with that. 684 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 2: That is so good, so good. I love that. I 685 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,199 think that's the name of this episode. 686 00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 4: By the way, Oh, thank you, thank you. 687 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 688 00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 4: And that's that's just the reality. 689 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,760 Speaker 3: A lot of it comes down to being able to say, Okay, Mallory, 690 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,199 get it under control, you know, stop letting the thoughts 691 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:16,559 fly and bring it back to center, have a little 692 00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:21,320 fun and just do it. You know, it really can 693 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,719 be that simple. It really can, and it all comes 694 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,599 back to control and that controlling of emotion, control your energy, 695 00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:34,000 and it really does lead to controlling the game as 696 00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:36,119 much as you yeah, right. 697 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: As much as you can, because once the ball leaves 698 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,239 the club face, it's out of your control. 699 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to allow that absolutely, absolutely, And 700 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,480 then we can also talk about that kind of thing, 701 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,199 the power positive thinking of when that ball is in 702 00:44:54,239 --> 00:45:00,559 the air, what happens to it? You know, when you're saying, okay, 703 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,840 hole in one hole in one hole and one hole 704 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:09,519 in one versus oh no, oh no, oh no, what 705 00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:11,159 effect does that have on the ball? 706 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,760 Speaker 4: It absolutely has an effect. 707 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:21,199 Speaker 3: Yes, everything is energy, and so when that thought form 708 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,639 of oh no, oh no is applied, you're gonna get 709 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:31,360 oh no. Usually, But if you're applying yes, got it, 710 00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:33,480 or I'm a winner. 711 00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 4: Or whatever your. 712 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 3: Whatever your mission is in that moment, you have a 713 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,599 much greater chance and probability of that actually occurring. And 714 00:45:44,639 --> 00:45:48,639 that comes back to visualization of say it, see it, do. 715 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:54,519 Speaker 2: It right right? Uh? 716 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,119 Speaker 1: And here you said you you are responsible for cursing yourself. 717 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,280 I'm reading right from the book here. In fact, we're 718 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,639 usually our own biggest oppressor. This can come as a shock, 719 00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:08,679 but it should also be a relief. If we are 720 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,440 acting as our own worst enemy, then it should be 721 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,800 easy to stop, right, those are your words. 722 00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:19,039 Speaker 3: Technically it should be easy, right, And that's where self 723 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:24,880 awareness comes in and self accountability. You can know all 724 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,519 day that you know, cursing myself is going to give 725 00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:32,760 me a higher chance of you know, failure, outcomes or 726 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,480 just outcomes not as as good as. 727 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 4: They could be. 728 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,519 Speaker 3: But it's up to me to actually apply that knowledge. 729 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,480 You can know something, but if you don't apply it, 730 00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:45,639 do you really know it? 731 00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:47,199 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 732 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:52,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all about self accountability. You have to become 733 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,440 in control of your own game. You can only be 734 00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:00,719 as good as you make yourself, you know, and that 735 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,239 takes effort, just like anything else Athletically, you have to 736 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:11,400 practice mindset takes practice, visualization takes practice. Commanding energy, which 737 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,320 we get into in the book, takes practice, and it 738 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,800 just takes actually doing it a lot of times. With 739 00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:22,840 energy work and that sort of thing, people automatically assume 740 00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:27,000 there's a lot of like ritual involved or anything like that, 741 00:47:27,159 --> 00:47:29,400 and so they shy away. They just don't want to 742 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:29,800 do it. 743 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,039 Speaker 4: But there's not. You really only need your. 744 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 3: Focused intention, but you have to make a point to 745 00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:42,440 create that focused intention. You have to actually go through 746 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,800 the steps and do the work because there is a 747 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,039 little bit of work involved. But once you get the 748 00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:50,039 rhythm of it, it's nothing. It's just like swinging a club. 749 00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:57,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing. Wow. So this is just it's. 750 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 1: It's a great reminder for all of us on how 751 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,559 we should be out there on the golf course. 752 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 2: But it's also a new way of looking at it. 753 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: Like I said, I've done so many topics on mindfulness 754 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,280 and zen and mental game, emotional, all those things, but 755 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,719 this is a different approach that I really appreciate and 756 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,719 I'm enjoying the book very much. So again, the book 757 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:27,519 is called Energetic Athletics. The website is Energeticathletics dot com 758 00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:30,960 and that'll be in the show notes. But you also 759 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:36,400 talked about you're a filmmaker, a documentary filmmaker. Can you 760 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,719 share anything you're working on. 761 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 4: Yes, Actually it's sort of golf related. 762 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 2: Okay. 763 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 3: Our big documentary that we're about to we're almost finished with, 764 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,519 We're light at the end of the tunnel right now, 765 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,159 is about Jim McMahon, the quarterback for the Chicago Bears. 766 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Championship Bears. 767 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 4: Yes, Bears Bears. 768 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:06,039 Speaker 3: It is about his NFL career, and then also focuses 769 00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:11,599 actually on his health challenges after the NFL. Jim has 770 00:49:11,679 --> 00:49:18,199 dealt with CTE and traumatic brain injury, and the documentary 771 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,079 really goes in. 772 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,159 Speaker 4: It's two parts. 773 00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:23,519 Speaker 3: Really. The first half is Jim and all of his glory, 774 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,840 and then the second half is what he's really been 775 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,559 through and it's very eye opening for anyone who puts 776 00:49:33,559 --> 00:49:37,960 on a football helmet, honestly, but. 777 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,159 Speaker 4: It's hopeful as well. 778 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,519 Speaker 3: I mean, he's been through a lot, but he's also 779 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,400 in treatments right now with a chiropractor out of New 780 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:50,480 York and they're having fabulous results with a process of 781 00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:55,599 Atlas balancing, which is non invasive, and it's all about 782 00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,239 his recovery really with that and a lot of of 783 00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:05,719 his mindset is actually in the movie. And Jim is 784 00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:11,840 really an amazing character. We've been filming for several years now, 785 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,920 so I actually have had the pleasure of following Jim 786 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,760 around the country to different golf courses and watching him 787 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:24,760 play a lot, and it's been an incredible case study 788 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:30,559 to watch in action in person and Jim is just 789 00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:32,199 the master of his own mind. 790 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,599 Speaker 4: He is. It's fascinating it he is. 791 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 3: If I could hire a poster boy, he would be 792 00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:45,440 the poster boy for energetic athletics because he just is 793 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:51,280 naturally so strong. And when you talk about call him 794 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,360 is your superpower? That is Jim McMahon. 795 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:55,280 Speaker 2: Wow. 796 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 3: He he can make things happen. 797 00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:00,760 Speaker 4: And I've seen it in person. 798 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,280 Speaker 3: I've seen it on football film, but in person is 799 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,800 really incredible to be around. Because it's contagious too, and 800 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,119 we talk about that in the book. Energy is contagious, 801 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,519 and then that goes back to who you surround yourself 802 00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:19,480 with and your energy input, because being around people like Jim, 803 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,119 you feel the difference you It just does something good 804 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,800 for your your own personal energy being around him because 805 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:34,320 he's positive and he keeps everyone around him positive. And 806 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:39,480 that is a great example of leadership and energetic leadership 807 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,199 because like we said, it really is contagious. So if 808 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,320 you know your energy is contagious and you take that 809 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,079 to heart, you're gonna try a little harder to you know, 810 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,039 stay in those positive mindsets, especially when you're in a 811 00:51:55,079 --> 00:51:58,480 group setting, so that that doesn't bleed over to the 812 00:51:58,519 --> 00:52:01,440 rest of the team, because especially in team sports, that 813 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,760 can happen easily. One person starts having a bad day 814 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,400 and then everybody's off just the same way that hitting's contageous. 815 00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 2: But what's the name of the movie, Mad Mac. 816 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,079 Speaker 3: The Memory of Jim McMahon. It'll probably be out towards 817 00:52:18,159 --> 00:52:23,519 the summer, but it's it's really fascinating, and it goes 818 00:52:23,559 --> 00:52:28,719 into a lot of different areas that deal with what 819 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,679 we're talking about right here. Maybe not so in your face, 820 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:36,519 but they're absolutely there. And I think when people start 821 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,639 delving into this more and start connecting the dots to 822 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:45,480 how energy and athletes and athletics just are all intertwined, 823 00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:53,960 they'll start seeing in themselves and in other players, who 824 00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:57,199 is naturally doing it Because a lot of the times 825 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,159 we're all ready we're already naturally doing this for ourselves. 826 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,960 We just don't understand. And then you have people like 827 00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:10,880 Jim who are doing it on turbo and he doesn't 828 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,559 know he's doing it. He's not going through these steps 829 00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:17,440 and he's not actively saying, Okay, I'm going to do this, 830 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,559 this and this, and I'm going to make this happen 831 00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:23,480 for myself. He's naturally doing it, but you can learn 832 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,960 how to naturally do it too, So there are two 833 00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:31,559 sides of the coin, and you will start to see like, Okay, 834 00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:36,360 he naturally has a very strong energetic shield, and he 835 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,960 naturally can visualize and make things happen for themselves. But 836 00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:43,840 it is a skill that we can all learn to do. 837 00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:47,800 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, you said it's going to be out this summer. 838 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:49,960 Is it streaming or theaters where were? 839 00:53:50,199 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 3: I'm not sure where it will be yet, but it'll be, 840 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,360 you know, streaming that sort of thing. 841 00:53:54,599 --> 00:53:59,119 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Well, congratulations on that and looking forward to it, 842 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,599 and thank you so so much for these insights and 843 00:54:01,639 --> 00:54:05,639 your book. I really enjoyed it, and I think it's 844 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:06,559 worth picking. 845 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 2: Up and looking at it again. 846 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:13,840 Speaker 1: It's Energeticathletics dot com and the book Energetic Athletics by 847 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,480 Malorie Kennedy Mallori. 848 00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:17,280 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming onto the show. 849 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,079 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Fred. I really enjoyed our talk. 850 00:54:20,199 --> 00:54:21,000 This was wonderful.