Speaker 1: Hi, this is Alex Skwerdetski from Calgary, Alberta, Canada, and
I play at Link's Ridge Golf Course.
Speaker 2: This is Golf Smarter number nine hundred and ninety two.
Speaker 3: And then we have unconscious curses. That's what we deal
with mostly on a day to day basis because we
don't understand that we're doing it a lot of the times.
And an unconscious curse is me in my head saying
I hope he misses that shot. That's an unconscious curse,
or me saying, oh, I can't stand that person. I
hope they don't come to the Christmas party. That's sending
negative energy towards someone. You know, we're not taught that,
we're not given the information that that is actually doing something.
But everything is energy, the thoughts ideas everything. So when
we're thinking in our heads, I want that person to fail,
that is laying an unconscious curse. Whether you understand that
you're doing it or not, you're still cursing someone. That's
what we also do to ourselves is unconscious curses typically,
and that can be actual cursing like f me, you're
cursing yourself, that's an unconscious curse. You don't really know
you're doing it. If you knew you were, I think
you'd probably stop. So those are the two main categories,
conscious and unconscious.
Speaker 1: Control your emotions, control your energy, control your game. With
documentary filmmaker Mallory Kennedy, this is Golf Smarter, sharing stories,
tips and insights from great golf minds to help you
lower your score and raise your golf IQ.
Speaker 2: Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast. Mallory.
Speaker 4: Hello, Fred, I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 2: It's great to have you on.
Speaker 1: This is going to be a fascinating conversation because over
the years of Golf Smarter, and you know you're in
the nine one hundred and ninety episodes esque up in there,
I've covered the zen part of golf, flow state, mental game,
emotional game, biometrics, kinesiology, mindfulness, self hypnosis. But this is
the first time that anyone has ever suggested the idea
of energy controlling your energy or curses. And I'm like,
oh no, Wit, this is too interesting and a real
hard left turn on this. How did you get And
we'll talk about your book a lot, a lot of
notes and things that you've said, but you're not a doctor.
Speaker 2: You're a filmmaker, right.
Speaker 4: Correct, a filmmaker and writer.
Speaker 2: Okay, how did you get to this?
Speaker 3: It was a long journey, I'll say that, but you know,
I've really been all my life. I've been a tuned
to energy, and I could see it just kind of
naturally as a child, and you know, it was something
I was honestly scared of because I just thought ghosts.
You know, you're a little kid and you're afraid to
go to sleep because you know things are bumping around
and you're hearing other things that people don't see, and
you just don't want to. So for a long time,
it was just a scary thing that I shut down,
really almost completely as much as I could, because too
when you talk to people about it, they're just like, oh,
you know, that's your imagination and you kind of discredit it,
and they just don't want you to be scared, you know.
But then as I grew up and got a little
more comfortable with it and saw that it was something
also that was not going away, then I decided, well,
I just need to make friends with it, and started
looking into it. I would say, on more of a
formal level, just like a self study. And like you said,
I'm not like a doctor, and I did not go
to a formal school for this, but a lot of
it is what I would call a social study and
just people watching and watching people's careers and seeing patterns.
A lot of it is seeing patterns, I would say.
And once you understand the basics of how energy works,
you really start to see where curses come in. And
people don't want to talk about curses because again, that's scary,
you know, that's on a ghost level. Yeah, and especially
in the West, we are not accustomed to speaking openly
about that sort of thing either. And other countries and
other cultures that's different, you know, it's a little more common,
and there are daily things that people do to kind
of ward against curses and that sort of thing. But
here in the West, we're kind of left to our
own devices a bit. And the only time we hear
or think about curses, especially in terms of sports, is
like baseball or something big like Red Sox, you know,
the Cubs. But if big franchises and let's say, you know,
whoever's on the cover of Madden this year, if they're
susceptible to curses, well everyone is that it's not just
picking professionals, you know, it's not going on text bracket alone.
This is actually something.
Speaker 4: That affects all of us.
Speaker 3: And I think it's time that, you know, people really
start paying attention to that, because it is, like you said,
something that people just don't even really think about in
terms of injury and slumps and just bizarre failures. And
that's on the field and off everything that we talk about.
Of course, it has an athletic application, but it also
has a real life application to So everything you can
learn that can help your golf game will also help you,
you know, in the boardroom or just every day with
your family. And curses, the best way to think of
them is really the opposite of blessings. If you believe
in blessings and the power of prayer, then you pretty
much automatically believe in curses too. They go hand in hand.
It's just poor opposites. If you're praying for someone and
sending them blessings, you are sending them a river of
good vibes, You're sending them good energy. But if you're
in your head saying, oh, I hope that person you
know doesn't make it to the meeting, today, you're actually
sending them bad energy. Or if you're on the golf
course and you're saying miss it, miss it in your head,
you're actually sending.
Speaker 4: Out a curse.
Speaker 2: Yes you are, you are, and you don't.
Speaker 4: Even realize it.
Speaker 3: And so when we talk hand in hand of blessings
and curses, you also have to start talking about karmic return.
And this is where we can kind of control what
goes out and comes back at us by how we
start to treat others and ourselves, because a lot of
it is, you know, self mindset of how you view yourself.
If you think, oh, gosh, I'm a loser, I can't
make this putt, then you're not gonna make it. You're
cursing yourself, you know. And that's really what the book
goes into. And it's an element of what I call
energy management, and that is the active monitoring of your
own personal energy so that you can use it to
one defend against curses and low energy that may sabotage
your game, whether that's coming from someone else or yourself.
Speaker 4: And then it also can.
Speaker 3: Help you with your overall wellness and your personal health
and help you just live a better, happier life and
get a lot of low negative energy out of your way,
because at the end of the day, a lot of
times we're our own worst enemy when it comes to mindset.
Speaker 1: Right. Right, So when you referred to the being in
the West, I'm assuming you're mean the global West and
you're talking about the United States and our and our
young civilization. But I am a lifelong Californian, so I'm
in the West.
Speaker 2: So when you say that, but you.
Speaker 1: Tell me where you came from where, because doesn't exist
where I am.
Speaker 2: But you have issues like this that are part of
the culture. Where did you grow up.
Speaker 3: That I actually grew up in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, And go, okay,
you're very well. My family at least we're very used
to you know, voodoo.
Speaker 4: Who do you know Creole magic?
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, everywhere it's a way of a family,
a family there. And they took us to a haunted
it was in actually it was in New Orleans, near Orleans,
and it was they like took us to haunted houses. Right,
it's like a regular part of the culture there.
Speaker 4: It is. It is, It definitely is.
Speaker 3: There's actually a law in New Orleans where I'm not
positive it's still on the books, but I know it
used to be where if you're selling a house you
have to divulge if it's haunted or not, and sometimes
that's a selling point.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: But it is. It's a it's just part of the
culture where we are.
Speaker 3: And then it's also taboo at the same time too,
which is odd, but I guess that's because of you're
still in the Bible belt, and a lot of times
when you start talking about energy openly, people who are
from fundamental Christian backgrounds or traditional religious backgrounds can really
like put up a wall and they think, you know,
this might be spiritually risky, but it's not. And I
think that's a common misconception that we do need to
clear up because it can be scary. I was raised
in a Baptist church. My mother's Catholic. Like I understand
you get the wide eyes when you start talking about curses.
So I would say that it is a mixed bag
still even where I live in New Orleans where we
moved from. But I think that athletes in particular are
a group that is primed to learn about the power
of energy and how it can help them because athletes
are teachable, and they're coachable, and they're typically results based,
so they'll try almost anything, even if it's a little unorthodox.
I would say, you know, they're usually willing to give
something a try, and there are most athletes are already
used to visualization practices, and that's a lot of what
this is based upon is visualization.
Speaker 1: I'm curious to know how your family feels about you
bringing up this topic publicly and it's like, don't go there.
Are they concerned about it? Does it make them nervous
or they're all, yeah, go for it.
Speaker 3: I would say that it's been there's been a progression.
At first, it was just.
Speaker 4: Mallory. She's just crazy.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I would just talk about wild things and you know,
that's okay. I was always you know, they're used to
me exploring topics. You know, I'm very open to exploring,
and I think they thought maybe that's what this was
at first, And actually, I guess I should say in
twenty sixteen, in Baton Rouge, we had a really.
Speaker 4: Historic flood.
Speaker 3: It was a great flood and we were affected by
it and I got really sick afterwards from being in
the water, and I honestly thought I was.
Speaker 4: Like possibly dying. It was that bad.
Speaker 3: I was unable to eat, my body just stopped accepting food,
and I'd gone in and out of hospitals and emergency
rooms just trying to find answers. And of course all
the test results are fine, you know you're in perfect health. No,
I'm absolutely not. I'm like gray. And that's really when
I started looking into the energy side of mindset and
health and where those connections were of wellness, because it
came to a point where I knew doctors weren't clearly
not going to be able to help me. It was
up to me, and I had to figure out how
to pick myself up off the couch and just say
I'm going to do this, I'm going to live, I'm
going to be I'm going to be well again. And
it was a journey through the health part and then
figuring out that health and your surroundings and also your
behavior all contribute to your overall wellness. And that's really
when I started connecting the dots of energy management. And
really it's all about self awareness and radical honesty of
things you need to change and actually making those changes
and not just saying okay, well this will make me better.
Speaker 4: But you actually have to do it too.
Speaker 3: And that's how I started connecting the dots of energy management,
mindset and results of physical results that you could actually see,
and healing like rebound of healing. And that's also where
I started seeing where I was cursing myself in areas
of mindset, and then how my environment around me was
not conducive to healing and it was not conducive to
being a better person either.
Speaker 4: And then, as we discuss in the book, when.
Speaker 3: You rectify all those issues, you actually start seeing immense
benefits and durability, your increase durability.
Speaker 4: And when you.
Speaker 3: Can get all of that out of your way and
then have that self awareness moving forward, you can apply
it to a game, any game, the game of life,
game of chess, golf, anything, and you really can become
more in control of what happens to you on and
off the field. And I think once they saw my family,
once they saw that this was becoming a way of
life and not just talking points, then they started listening.
And then slowly I could see that they it was
syncing in what I was saying, and I could see
that they were also applying some things to their lives
and seeing results as well.
Speaker 4: So I would say it's been kind of a lead by.
Speaker 3: Example situation, but you do have to be ready for
people just to look at you like your nuts at first. Absolutely, yeah,
but it just comes with the territory.
Speaker 1: But what came first, so clearly your your illness, and
I'm so glad that you're better and you're back. But
where where did how did it get from there to
start working with athletes.
Speaker 3: I've actually always been involved with sports pretty much all
of my life.
Speaker 4: I worked in sports.
Speaker 3: I was a writer for a football magazine in Baton Rouge,
Louisiana Football Magazine. I also worked for Marucci Back Company,
which is now Marucci Sports.
Speaker 4: And life for.
Speaker 3: Me always revolved around sports with my family, you know,
going to L s U football games and anything on
the Tigers schedule was you know, that's just what you did.
Speaker 4: It's a way of life.
Speaker 3: Sports and life in general have never been separate. They've
there's always been an element of play, and I think
that is really important, and having an element of play
and keeping it play and not being too serious about it.
And something that you know you can use is camaraderie
with friends or family.
Speaker 4: And it's it's a bonding experience.
Speaker 3: It was something I always did with my dad, and
you know, I liked baseball, he liked baseball, so we
went together, you know, And so sports have meant family
for me. Really, it's there's there's there's no separation whatsoever.
So that naturally led into my career. And then, like
I said, I was a nonprofit fundraiser and put on
a lot of golf tournaments. And then when I was,
like I said, going through everything I went through, I
started writing about it. I'm naturally a writer, so I'm
writing about what I know, and I started out on
the health side of things, and then feminine issues, women's
life issues, that kind of thing, And honestly, there was not.
Speaker 4: A lot of response.
Speaker 3: People are happy how they are, most of them. And
then I saw this opening. I guess I would mostly
say that it was shown to me that athletes are
a group that are primed for this type of learning,
and it, like we've talked about, it has game time
and life benefits, and I think it's also really needed
right now. I guess about a year ago, I was
at home visiting in Baton Rouge and watching the news
with my dad and I was sitting there and this
story came on and it was all about how they
were having to cancel high school football games because they
couldn't get referees, because the referees themselves were afraid of
the students, the student athletes because problems they'd have a games,
and then parents, and that they did not feel enough
to actually come and officiate a high school game. And
this was going on across the state. It was, you know,
state news. It wasn't just happening in one city. And
that floored me. And you know, the base of energy management,
a lot of it is our mindset, how we treat
each other's, how we treat people, coming back to the
golden rule, and I felt like this was an opportunity
to try to get a sportsmanship message out there that's
a little different. That's not just oh, you need to
be a good person. But if you come to someone
and say, look, if you do this, this and this,
and you're nicer and you're more of a sportsman in
your day to day life with your team, with your family,
you can actually enhance your athletic performance. That's coming at
it from a different angle, that's saying, okay, tell me
more you know what other kind of benefits can I get?
Is it really connected? It's not just being a good person.
I can actually control if I'm in a slump, if
I'm being you know, not so nice to my coach,
that kind of thing. And that's true. And so I
think that really opens up a conversation and hopefully you
can fill a gap in really reviving sportsmanship in our
society because I think at the end of the day,
that's really what we need. And that goes from you know,
high school kids on a football field to you know,
grown men at a golf tournaments seeing wild things you know,
on a golf Absolutely too.
Speaker 1: That's one of the things I work with the First
t program, and I work with six to ten year
old kids on teaching them golf. But it's more to
me about teaching them what golf can teach you about
life and how you can make it work to your benefit.
I'm curious, do you have any siblings.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm actually an only child.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you and your dad go watch baseball games.
I gotta believe if you grew up in Baton Rouge
that you went to college baseball games. Yes, yes, absolutely, Okay,
all right, I want to get I want to talk
more about the book. I want to get into the
book and and talk about energy management, which is such
an interesting concept and how you got from that to curses.
Speaker 2: But we'll do that when we come back.
Speaker 1: After Okay, all right, Mallory, I'm gonna I've you know,
isolated a bunch of quotes from your book. I'm still
reading it because I just got it the other day.
We set this up quickly, and everyone should know that.
Her website is Energetic Athlete, Energetic Athletics dot com, Energeticathletics
dot com. And like early on, you're saying, being able
to success fully rally yourself and the people around you
while motivating them to reach greater heights together is an
extremely valuable skill. Okay, so now we're talking about coaching,
but a lot of what we're talking about here is
coaching yourself right.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, and being able to be your own cheerleader
and understanding that sometimes there's no one else in the
stands rooting for you. You have to be it, and
you have to be okay with that one and know
how to do it, know how to cheer yourself on,
and like you said, you have to be your own
coach sometimes that you know.
Speaker 4: It is you.
Speaker 3: It's you on the field, you know when it comes
down to it. And that's really the beauty of sports too,
is just the lessons that we can learn from ourselves.
And at the end of the day, we're really competing
against ourselves, not someone else.
Speaker 1: Right, right, play the course, your opponent, and especially in golf.
So I was hooked in the introduction of the book
because you talked about being a cheerleader and you have
to be a cheerleader.
Speaker 2: And I've always been that kind of person. In high school.
Speaker 1: I did that was because I just wanted to be
in front of a microphone in high school. Was like
I'm going to be a jockie, right, so it's like
give me a microphone and let's see what happens. And
I did that for a couple of years in high
school and was just loved it. But I've also been
the guy who always got the T shirt to like, yeah,
we're doing this right, And my kids are like, oh God, relax,
but they're also kind of like that themselves. We're all
even my granddaughter, it's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1: We're you know, we're all cheerleaders. In that sense, So
that jumped out at me immediately. I'm like, Okay, I'm
gonna like this.
Speaker 3: So really is like cheerleading is so important and we
don't always get that, especially when we have to do
it for ourselves, because that can be really hard. And
like you said, we kind of go through I guess
cycles where we can you know, muster up everything we
need and then then that kind of wilts a little bit.
And that's energy management too, and we talk about how
to keep that durability up, how to keep that positive
mindset because it is easy, like things are going to happen,
You're going to you know, completely miss the tee. There's
you know, it's just it's you're going to have a
bad day. So you have to be able to you know,
get over it pretty much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly, uh Page eighteen.
Speaker 2: You are responsible for the type of energy.
Speaker 1: You choose to extend and express, whether high or low.
The energy you put out will always be returned to you.
Speaker 5: Going back to karma, Yes, karma, and that's a major
major part of energy management, is karma management and just
trying to keep our vibration and the energy of our
own personal energy as high as possible or neutral.
Speaker 3: We kind of go into that too, the power of neutrality.
But where people don't always I would say where they're
not as mindful is with our surroundings, and that can
be the people we associate with, our family, our household,
the vibe of our office, this wherever you spend the
most of your time. The energy of those places are important,
and we resonate with whatever we are around. Whatever we ingest,
and ingesting does always mean food, that means what we
watch on TV, what we listen to, the music we
listen to is extremely important and that all affects our resonance,
and we will simplify it to high and low, just
you know, for ease, and the higher your resonance, the
higher more positive experiences, whether that's sinking a putt or
you know, just having good outcomes in life, You're going.
Speaker 4: To have more of that.
Speaker 3: The higher energy you keep around you. So that is
a part of energy management, being able to be self
aware enough to say, maybe I shouldn't be, you know,
going out late on this night before a big game.
You know, that's weakening my energy, or just little things.
Maybe I should be getting more rest or maybe I
shouldn't be hanging out with this person who's kind of
draining me a little, you know, or whatever you're eating
or drinking. If you're addicted to energy drinks or things
like that, that can really diminish your energy and cause you,
you know, body mind, spirit to go down a little bit.
And that also affects your play. It's all connected. Everything
is connected everything we do, and.
Speaker 4: It's really.
Speaker 3: I would call it. It changes in real time, I
would say. So, just like you're talking about being able
to cheerlead yourself, you can flip the energy really quick.
Speaker 4: But you have to do it.
Speaker 3: You have to stop and say, Okay, I'm feeling really
mad or upset. This is okay. This is you know,
a human experience. It's okay to feel mad or angry
that you are just having a terrible game. But let's
figure it out. Let's bring it up a little and
at least just have fun, you know, trying to find
the silver lining and just bringing things back to the
positive as much as we can in order to flip
the energy, because that's how you can get out of
slumps and that sort of thing. And that's where it
comes in really handy when you apply it to athletics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I could, I could easily bring it
back and ask you to bring it back to golf.
But I think that the audience is skilled enough at
this point, if they're an audience member of this show,
to understand how this relates to golf and what they
can do on their own to use this information to
their advantage. So I'm going to highly recommend the book.
I if this, if this connects with you, check the
book out. We'll get more into that later. But let's
go into the types of curses you talk about. Now,
we've talked about energy, we're talking about curses. We're going
back and forth and we will continue to do that
because that's what this book is about. Uh So let's
let's talk about the types of curses.
Speaker 3: Yes, And like you said, all all this energy that
we're talking about and curses, it's all intertwined, it all
works together, it's all interconnected. So the types of curses
we talk about two categories, which is conscious that's curses
that I'm saying, I'm laying a.
Speaker 4: Hex on you.
Speaker 3: You know that you might hear about that kind of thing,
and like witchcraft or you know, it doesn't have to
be ritualized. It doesn't have to be spells, but it
can be. But conscious is just I'm doing this on
purpose and I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 4: That's the first category. The second category.
Speaker 2: Spells, that's that's from your neck of the woods.
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, incantations, that kind of thing when you're talking
about like voodoo dolls, sending you know that kind of thing,
black magic, that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: And I know that wild no, but I just want
to I want to put it out there. If if
you're listening and you live in Louisiana and this is
resonating so well, so well with you, please let me know,
Please write to me. I'd love to hear from you
to say, oh, yeah, that's that's how we grew up,
no problem, so go ahead.
Speaker 3: And so conscious curses and then we have unconscious curses,
which is really that's what we deal with mostly. I
would say, like you and me on a day to
day basis, because we don't understand that we're doing it
a lot of the times. And an unconscious curse is
me in my head saying I hope he misses that shot.
That's an unconscious curse, or me saying, oh I can't
stand that person I hope they don't come to the
Christmas party, you know, just like that's sending negative energy
towards someone. And you know, we're not taught that, we're
not we're not given the information that that is actually
doing something. But you know, everything is energy, the thoughts
ideas everything. So when we're thinking in our heads, you know,
I want that person to you know, let's say I
don't know, I want that person to fail. That is
laying an unconscious curse. Whether you understand that you're doing
it or not, you're still cursing someone.
Speaker 4: And that's that's.
Speaker 3: What we also do to ourselves, is unconscious curses typically,
and that can be actual cursing, like language like saying
you know, f me, you know that sort of thing.
You're cursing yourself. That's an unconscious curse. You don't really
know you're doing it. If you knew you were, I
think you'd probably stop. And so those are the two
main categories, conscious and unconscious. And what we go into
is that we really can't control what other people send
our way. I can't control where your mind's going. And
if you're saying, oh, I hope she fails, but I
can control my own energy and my own energy body,
which when you start to learn about connecting to your
energy body, you start to understand that it is actually
your personal defense system, and we can strengthen this energy
system to be able to ward against curses unconscious or conscious.
And so that's where we move from. There is okay,
this is what curses are. These are how they're sent
to us. They're just thought projections. It's just the opposite
of blessings, you know, So it's not anything to be
afraid of, is really what the book focuses on, because
fear feeds curses regards wardless of if I send it,
or if I'm sending them to myself, or if someone
else send it to me. If I start falling into
fear or fearful mindsets or a low energy, if it
starts affecting me and then I start piling onto it,
it creates a snowball effect and it will just get
worse and worse. But if you have a strong energetic
defense system, if you have a strong shield, you are
a lot less affected by these thought forms that are
coming at you, and your game is protected in a sense,
and you can learn how to clear these things out
of your field. If they get stuck in your field,
so that other people saying miss it, miss it, miss
it doesn't actually make you miss.
Speaker 1: It's that you keep talking about energy the way you are,
not energy fields, but your own personal energy. When my
younger son was probably in third or fourth grade, the
teacher pulled him aside said mister Green, you've got a
lot of energy, and he went, well, that's my name
spelled backwards.
Speaker 2: Because it's g R E E N E backwards is
E N E R G energy.
Speaker 1: And he came home and told us that was like,
where did you How did you come up with that?
Have you never even thought of that? I don't know,
just sort of looked like to me, it's like, wow, okay,
my energy, high energy, high energy kid. Definitely hi, high
energy family. Absolutely, I've had I have now two daughters
in law.
Speaker 2: It's like I can't keep up with you guys.
Speaker 1: When you all get together, it's you know, yeah, we're
loud and proud.
Speaker 2: Okay, good thing. Yeah it's a great thing.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to self sabotage and how it relates
to golfers all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I would say.
Speaker 3: The biggest thing that I see pattern wise for cursing
yourself and sabotaging yourself in your own game is attitude
and language. You know, our attitudes really control everything that
come at us. Like if if you have a bad attitude,
you're probably going to have things that come at you
that make you have even more of a bad attitude.
If you have a positive attitude, you're going to have
experiences that enhance that positive attitude. It really is about resonance,
and we can control that. And one way is our attitude.
Even if you know things aren't going your way during
the game, you have to be able to come back
to uh why you played to begin with. You need
to bring it back to fun. You need to be Okay,
maybe I'm having a bad day, but at least I'm
out in nature, you know, green grass, blue sky, there's
fresh air. Like look for the silver linings, look for
the good things. Look for something to pull you out
of that slump, you know, out of that energetic slump,
because that's what it is. And you have to be
able to recognize, Okay, I need to fix this. It's
all about self accountability. I can't fix self hexes for you.
You have to fix them for yourself. And one of
that one of the ways we do that is controlling
our language. And you know, cursing does exactly that. Cursing
curses you. So if you can clean up your language
on the course and off, you're going to find that
there's a lot less resistance coming at you because you're
not cursing your self anymore. And you know, language in general,
when we talk about like magic and that sort of thing,
you start seeing the similarities of just spelling and spells
and cursing and curses. Like language is so important, and
how we talk to ourselves is so important, you know,
as well as how we talk to others. But how
we talk to ourselves is an area that really everybody
could use help with.
Speaker 1: I think, oh absolutely, And it leads to what you
talk about us our ultimate superpowers.
Speaker 3: Your calm is your superpower. It absolutely is in you know,
every situation pretty much, calm will save you almost every time.
That's the lesson I've had to learn, and I think
especially athletes and young athletes, I think it's important that
the learn that too, and that you know, it's easy
to fly off the rails when things go bad. It
is hard to keep yourself centered and stay calm. But
the more you do it, the easier it becomes. It
is just like a muscle. You have to practice getting
over it, almost like time trials, like how how quickly
can I just move on? How quickly can I even
just forget about it? Put it behind you? And you know,
even if that's just going back to the fun and
trying to remember, you know, the little kid that wanted
to be a golfer, you know, trying to hang on
to those things, that really helps. But language and attitude
are really the biggest ways we sabotage ourselves. And I
think we know that it's like common sense, but we
don't always apply it to our lives.
Speaker 1: Right, right, and brings it brings back the neutrality part.
You mentioned the power of neutrality, and so you're calm,
being calm, being a superpower. But explain how neutrality works
in that again on the golf course.
Speaker 3: On the golf course, especially golf is really a good
place to start practicing energy management because it's an individual sport.
You can do trial and error and see how things
are working for you easier than say, with an entire team.
So I would say that when you are on the course,
when you are able to reach that neutral space. And
we don't mean blank when we say neutral. It's just
if I make this shot, yeah, I'm going to celebrate
and it's going to be an amazing day and I'm
buying everyone drinks. But if I won't make it, that's
okay too. It's been a good day, you know, we're here.
That's neutrality. It's not having an attachment to that outcome
of oh, if I don't make this shot, you know,
the world's gonna end or you know, and that gets tough,
especially when you know we bet on holes or there's
money involved and things like that that can get difficult
to get back to, you know, just the pure essence
of the game and that enjoyability and what it was
truly meant to be, you know in the beginning. But
that neutrality really just it connects you with the flow.
And like as we said, everything is connected in or connected,
and especially in golf. When you're just in the middle
of beautiful nature and you know you have grass under
your feet and the sky above, you connect with that
flow when you're in that neutral state, and you will
see that it actually improves your physical ability. Your calm
mental state allows the physical to follow suit. And find success.
It's all connected, and if we can maintain those calm states,
it really will improve every area of your life, including
your game. It's really fascinating to see how easy it
is and that it really is all about imagination. It's
as simple as imagining your own energetic bubble around you
and just clearing that with your mind and then.
Speaker 4: Taking your shot. It can be that easy.
Speaker 3: It is not time consuming, I know, Like in the book,
it walks you through steps of all the different exercises
and how to connect and how to start becoming more
in tune with your own energy. And I think sometimes
when we break things down step by step, it can
almost get more difficult.
Speaker 4: And it truly is.
Speaker 3: As simple as connecting to this big bubble of energy
that we all have around us and learning how to
enhance that energetic field and get it as strong as
possible so that life and gameplay becomes a breeze and
more enjoyable too. I feel that energy management, when applied
to athletics, puts the enjoyment back into it for a
lot of folks, that it's not just this slog of
something that's kicking my butt and you know, I'm just
not excelling at you can. It really puts perspective I
believe back into play and I do think play is
so important just in all aspects of our lives.
Speaker 2: You mentioned just a few minutes ago.
Speaker 1: It reminded me of an episode that we did years
ago that was called NATO Golf NATO being not attached
to outcome. You talked about not being attached outcome and
how that can help, and there you go. It's it's
a recurring theme here. But the two is it three
sentences but ten words nine words that you wrote in
the book that flew off the page to me. And
I was so happy when I went to your website
and saw those words on your video that you put
on it's control your emotions, control your energy, control the game.
Speaker 4: Yes, i'd come up with that.
Speaker 2: That is so good, so good. I love that. I
think that's the name of this episode.
Speaker 4: By the way, Oh, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And that's that's just the reality.
Speaker 3: A lot of it comes down to being able to say, Okay, Mallory,
get it under control, you know, stop letting the thoughts
fly and bring it back to center, have a little
fun and just do it. You know, it really can
be that simple. It really can, and it all comes
back to control and that controlling of emotion, control your energy,
and it really does lead to controlling the game as
much as you yeah, right.
Speaker 1: As much as you can, because once the ball leaves
the club face, it's out of your control.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to allow that absolutely, absolutely, And
then we can also talk about that kind of thing,
the power positive thinking of when that ball is in
the air, what happens to it? You know, when you're saying, okay,
hole in one hole in one hole and one hole
in one versus oh no, oh no, oh no, what
effect does that have on the ball?
Speaker 4: It absolutely has an effect.
Speaker 3: Yes, everything is energy, and so when that thought form
of oh no, oh no is applied, you're gonna get
oh no. Usually, But if you're applying yes, got it,
or I'm a winner.
Speaker 4: Or whatever your.
Speaker 3: Whatever your mission is in that moment, you have a
much greater chance and probability of that actually occurring. And
that comes back to visualization of say it, see it, do.
Speaker 2: It right right? Uh?
Speaker 1: And here you said you you are responsible for cursing yourself.
I'm reading right from the book here. In fact, we're
usually our own biggest oppressor. This can come as a shock,
but it should also be a relief. If we are
acting as our own worst enemy, then it should be
easy to stop, right, those are your words.
Speaker 3: Technically it should be easy, right, And that's where self
awareness comes in and self accountability. You can know all
day that you know, cursing myself is going to give
me a higher chance of you know, failure, outcomes or
just outcomes not as as good as.
Speaker 4: They could be.
Speaker 3: But it's up to me to actually apply that knowledge.
You can know something, but if you don't apply it,
do you really know it?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all about self accountability. You have to become
in control of your own game. You can only be
as good as you make yourself, you know, and that
takes effort, just like anything else Athletically, you have to
practice mindset takes practice, visualization takes practice. Commanding energy, which
we get into in the book, takes practice, and it
just takes actually doing it a lot of times. With
energy work and that sort of thing, people automatically assume
there's a lot of like ritual involved or anything like that,
and so they shy away. They just don't want to
do it.
Speaker 4: But there's not. You really only need your.
Speaker 3: Focused intention, but you have to make a point to
create that focused intention. You have to actually go through
the steps and do the work because there is a
little bit of work involved. But once you get the
rhythm of it, it's nothing. It's just like swinging a club.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing. Wow. So this is just it's.
Speaker 1: It's a great reminder for all of us on how
we should be out there on the golf course.
Speaker 2: But it's also a new way of looking at it.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I've done so many topics on mindfulness
and zen and mental game, emotional, all those things, but
this is a different approach that I really appreciate and
I'm enjoying the book very much. So again, the book
is called Energetic Athletics. The website is Energeticathletics dot com
and that'll be in the show notes. But you also
talked about you're a filmmaker, a documentary filmmaker. Can you
share anything you're working on.
Speaker 4: Yes, Actually it's sort of golf related.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Our big documentary that we're about to we're almost finished with,
We're light at the end of the tunnel right now,
is about Jim McMahon, the quarterback for the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Championship Bears.
Speaker 4: Yes, Bears Bears.
Speaker 3: It is about his NFL career, and then also focuses
actually on his health challenges after the NFL. Jim has
dealt with CTE and traumatic brain injury, and the documentary
really goes in.
Speaker 4: It's two parts.
Speaker 3: Really. The first half is Jim and all of his glory,
and then the second half is what he's really been
through and it's very eye opening for anyone who puts
on a football helmet, honestly, but.
Speaker 4: It's hopeful as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's been through a lot, but he's also
in treatments right now with a chiropractor out of New
York and they're having fabulous results with a process of
Atlas balancing, which is non invasive, and it's all about
his recovery really with that and a lot of of
his mindset is actually in the movie. And Jim is
really an amazing character. We've been filming for several years now,
so I actually have had the pleasure of following Jim
around the country to different golf courses and watching him
play a lot, and it's been an incredible case study
to watch in action in person and Jim is just
the master of his own mind.
Speaker 4: He is. It's fascinating it he is.
Speaker 3: If I could hire a poster boy, he would be
the poster boy for energetic athletics because he just is
naturally so strong. And when you talk about call him
is your superpower? That is Jim McMahon.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: He he can make things happen.
Speaker 4: And I've seen it in person.
Speaker 3: I've seen it on football film, but in person is
really incredible to be around. Because it's contagious too, and
we talk about that in the book. Energy is contagious,
and then that goes back to who you surround yourself
with and your energy input, because being around people like Jim,
you feel the difference you It just does something good
for your your own personal energy being around him because
he's positive and he keeps everyone around him positive. And
that is a great example of leadership and energetic leadership
because like we said, it really is contagious. So if
you know your energy is contagious and you take that
to heart, you're gonna try a little harder to you know,
stay in those positive mindsets, especially when you're in a
group setting, so that that doesn't bleed over to the
rest of the team, because especially in team sports, that
can happen easily. One person starts having a bad day
and then everybody's off just the same way that hitting's contageous.
Speaker 2: But what's the name of the movie, Mad Mac.
Speaker 3: The Memory of Jim McMahon. It'll probably be out towards
the summer, but it's it's really fascinating, and it goes
into a lot of different areas that deal with what
we're talking about right here. Maybe not so in your face,
but they're absolutely there. And I think when people start
delving into this more and start connecting the dots to
how energy and athletes and athletics just are all intertwined,
they'll start seeing in themselves and in other players, who
is naturally doing it Because a lot of the times
we're all ready we're already naturally doing this for ourselves.
We just don't understand. And then you have people like
Jim who are doing it on turbo and he doesn't
know he's doing it. He's not going through these steps
and he's not actively saying, Okay, I'm going to do this,
this and this, and I'm going to make this happen
for myself. He's naturally doing it, but you can learn
how to naturally do it too, So there are two
sides of the coin, and you will start to see like, Okay,
he naturally has a very strong energetic shield, and he
naturally can visualize and make things happen for themselves. But
it is a skill that we can all learn to do.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, you said it's going to be out this summer.
Is it streaming or theaters where were?
Speaker 3: I'm not sure where it will be yet, but it'll be,
you know, streaming that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Well, congratulations on that and looking forward to it,
and thank you so so much for these insights and
your book. I really enjoyed it, and I think it's
worth picking.
Speaker 2: Up and looking at it again.
Speaker 1: It's Energeticathletics dot com and the book Energetic Athletics by
Malorie Kennedy Mallori.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming onto the show.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Fred. I really enjoyed our talk.
This was wonderful.