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Yesterday, 10 00:00:34,439 --> 00:00:38,000 Attorney General Pam Bondi directed her staff to act on 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:43,479 the criminal referral from Director of National Intelligence Tulci Gabbard 12 00:00:44,079 --> 00:00:48,359 related to the alleged conspiracy to tie President Donald Trump 13 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:51,960 to Russia, and the Department of Justice is now opening 14 00:00:52,039 --> 00:00:57,520 a grand jury investigation into the matter. Bondi personally ordered 15 00:00:57,799 --> 00:01:02,320 an unnamed federal prosecutor to initiate legal proceedings, so this 16 00:01:02,359 --> 00:01:05,319 would be a federal grand jury, and the prosecutor is 17 00:01:05,359 --> 00:01:08,760 expected to present Department evidence to a grand jury, which 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,439 would would allow the Department to secure a potential indictment. 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,719 This is according to a letter from Bondi that was 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,719 reviewed by Fox News, as well as a source familiar 21 00:01:19,799 --> 00:01:23,799 with the investigation, So, Pam BONDI no, I'm kidding. I 22 00:01:23,799 --> 00:01:29,239 don't know who it is. So I don't know. Like 23 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:31,760 the key here is where is this federal grand jury 24 00:01:31,799 --> 00:01:32,760 going to be impaneled? 25 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: Right? 26 00:01:33,519 --> 00:01:35,799 Speaker 1: Because if you're going to do it in Washington, d C, 27 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,359 it's pretty unlikely you're going to get convictions for anybody 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:46,439 in Obama world except maybe John Brennan maybe, right. I 29 00:01:46,519 --> 00:01:49,159 just I have no confidence in the jury pool that 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,560 you would be selecting from in DC. 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: Now. 32 00:01:52,239 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: I have heard reports, rumors, if you will, that they 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,599 may be impaneling this grand jury down in Florida before 34 00:02:00,599 --> 00:02:04,359 I came in, you know, because I basically wrap up 35 00:02:04,359 --> 00:02:07,840 my show prep at about eleven ten thirty eleven o'clock, 36 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:10,199 come into the studio. I try to catch back up, 37 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:12,680 but I've not, you know, it's more of a cursory 38 00:02:12,719 --> 00:02:16,159 glance to see, okay, anything else moving right now. And 39 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:19,560 I have not seen if there's been any solid reporting 40 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,840 yet on confirmation that it's being done in Florida. I 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,560 have heard that as a rumor. I don't know it 42 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:27,159 to be true. I don't know how you could do that, 43 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,840 except maybe if you say, well, Trump was living in 44 00:02:31,199 --> 00:02:34,680 Florida at mar A Lago or something. But I don't 45 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,919 see how you could make that argument because the stuff 46 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,719 occurred in DC, right, And that, like, this poses another 47 00:02:43,159 --> 00:02:47,520 pretty serious problem, which is that if you've got Democrats 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:53,719 that enjoy complete freedom to break laws and frame people, 49 00:02:54,879 --> 00:02:59,479 using government levers of power to do so, and they 50 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,280 can they can skate on any kind of charges because 51 00:03:03,319 --> 00:03:05,879 the jury pool is so partisan and in the tank 52 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,400 for them. But that's a serious problem because that means 53 00:03:09,439 --> 00:03:14,319 now that we can't ever hold any Democrats accountable legally 54 00:03:14,719 --> 00:03:18,560 for violating any laws. If if they're not going to 55 00:03:18,599 --> 00:03:23,080 ever be convicted of this stuff, you got to You're 56 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,879 gonna have to move the venue. I like, I just 57 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,199 I don't see a way around it. But then of 58 00:03:28,199 --> 00:03:30,240 course you've got to ask some of these you know, 59 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,400 left wing moon bat brigade judges in the DC area. 60 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,000 You're gonna have to ask them to move the venue, 61 00:03:38,039 --> 00:03:43,360 and I'm sure they'll say no. Back to the Fox story, 62 00:03:43,719 --> 00:03:47,000 the revelation that the DOJ is moving forward with a 63 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:52,800 grand jury probe comes after Gabbard declassified intelligence last month, 64 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:57,759 which shed new light on the Obama administration's alleged determination 65 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,039 that Russia sought to help Trump in the twenty SIXTHXEN election. See, 66 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,759 so maybe that's how you do it. Trump was a 67 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:09,879 resident of Florida in twenty sixteen, and that's where that's 68 00:04:09,919 --> 00:04:13,479 where this stuff or when this stuff originally began, was 69 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,240 before he was elected. And so therefore you can go 70 00:04:17,319 --> 00:04:20,040 back to Florida because that was sort of the origin story. 71 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,639 And if that's the case, then the government's chances go 72 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:33,120 way up. Right, But the conspiracy continued through January twenty 73 00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:36,800 when he was inaugurated. But technically he's not in office 74 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,800 until January twenty. So if you go you go after 75 00:04:39,959 --> 00:04:45,759 the intelligence agency chiefs, the various chiefs of these agencies, 76 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:48,480 you go after them for the crimes committed prior to 77 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,000 January twentieth, then then maybe you can make an argument 78 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:58,519 and you can bring the charges down in Florida. Back 79 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,240 to the story, former President Barack Obama and his intelligence 80 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,959 officials allegedly promoted a contrived narrative that Russia interfered in 81 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,759 the twenty sixteen election to help President Trump win, telling 82 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,879 or selling it to the American people as though it 83 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,720 were true, but it was not. Among the declassified material 84 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:22,879 was a meeting record revealing how Obama allegedly requested his 85 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:28,600 deputies prepare an intelligence community assessment. This is an ICA, 86 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,759 that's what they call it, an ICA, Intelligence Community assessment. 87 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,439 This was in December of twenty sixteen, so a month 88 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:42,680 month and a half prior to Trump's inauguration. Trump had won, 89 00:05:42,959 --> 00:05:51,160 had not been inaugurated, and this ICA allegedly detailed the 90 00:05:51,199 --> 00:05:55,519 tools Moscow used and actions it took to influence the 91 00:05:55,519 --> 00:06:00,560 twenty sixteen election. Gabbard has alleged that Obama and national 92 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,639 security officials laid the groundwork for a narrative that then 93 00:06:04,759 --> 00:06:07,959 candidate Trump and his campaign colluded to help him win 94 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,240 the twenty sixteen election. An FBI investigation and two Special 95 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,480 Council investigations loomed over much of Trump's first term, Right, 96 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,519 And that's really that was really the point. 97 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: Right. 98 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: The first was an effort to help Hillary's campaign do 99 00:06:22,079 --> 00:06:25,639 her a solid right out of fear of Trump, orange 100 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,920 Man Hitler or whatever. But also Comy was smarting a 101 00:06:30,959 --> 00:06:35,560 bit because of the whole Clinton email server investigation. Right, 102 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,959 he was getting pressured by Loretta Lynch and all of this. 103 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:42,879 So you had all of this skulduggery going on, and 104 00:06:43,879 --> 00:06:47,519 Hillary was not doing terribly well. They thought she was 105 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,959 going to just pummel Donald Trump and it wasn't really happening. 106 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,879 And there were a lot of problems with the campaign. 107 00:06:53,959 --> 00:06:57,639 She had scandals around her, you know, the email one 108 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,279 being a big one. And then of course, right, I 109 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:04,120 guess it was Uber or something September maybe when they 110 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,319 found the laptop which had not Hunter's laptop, another laptop, 111 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,199 the Anthony Wiener's laptop, and it had all of this 112 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,759 stuff on it that was coming from Hillary's homebrew server, 113 00:07:14,199 --> 00:07:18,079 unsecured server that it all likelihood was hacked by like 114 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:21,560 every foreign adversary on the planet and probably half of 115 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,639 our allies as well. And so when they found that, 116 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,199 they had to reopen the investigation, and then Comy came out, 117 00:07:27,199 --> 00:07:30,759 you know, no reasonable prosecutor would indict her and whatever, 118 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:38,680 and the Democrats blamed Comy for that. Now, what's interesting 119 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,879 is when you go back and you look at and 120 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,759 listen to the comments that were made at the time, 121 00:07:43,879 --> 00:07:46,959 knowing what we know now about the inclusion of the 122 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,240 Steele dossier, the lies about how Russia was behind the 123 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:55,199 DNC hacking, and that they did so in order to 124 00:07:55,279 --> 00:07:59,079 help Trump, and Putin personally directed them to give it 125 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,439 to wiki leagues. Like all of this stuff, the Alpha 126 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:06,839 Bank thing, the you know, the ping on the bed 127 00:08:07,199 --> 00:08:09,959 by the hookers in the Moscow hotel room and all 128 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,879 of that, and like all of this stuff was being 129 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:20,879 leaked to compliant allied media operators if they aren't outright 130 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,480 assets of the CIA. Right, So you got all of 131 00:08:23,519 --> 00:08:28,160 these plants in media operations that regurgitate stuff from the 132 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:34,919 intelligence community, and that was all turned on Trump and 133 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:37,840 every little thing leaked out, every little thing, you know, 134 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:40,559 oh hey, we talked to Trump today about the p tape. 135 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,000 Now you can publish it, right, comes from Komi and whatever. 136 00:08:43,879 --> 00:08:46,080 You have, all of the lies that were built in 137 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:50,080 order to help Hillary win and to oh and by 138 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,960 the way, the irony of ironies here, the Steele dossier 139 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:59,480 was likely populated according to the analysis of the Steele dossier, 140 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,320 which of course they buried, that it was likely populated 141 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:07,399 with information that was planted by the Russians. 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Paul Sperry documents the lengthy 173 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:16,360 campaign used to smear Donald Trump based on unverifiable information. 174 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,919 This goes beyond the Steele dossier. There was another piece 175 00:11:20,919 --> 00:11:25,039 of information. It goes beyond the DNC hack That was 176 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,799 another piece of disinformation. It goes beyond that. There was 177 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:34,399 a third unverifiable report that was used to sell this 178 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:43,399 croc from the report. Real Clear Investigations the Obama intelligence 179 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:49,440 communities claim that Russian President Voladimir Putin authorized dirty tricks 180 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,120 to try and help Donald Trump win the twenty sixteen 181 00:11:52,159 --> 00:11:59,360 election was based on quote one scant, unclear and unverifiable 182 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:05,080 fragment of a sentence from one of the substandard intelligence reports. 183 00:12:06,639 --> 00:12:10,200 And that's according to the declassified report that was locked 184 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,879 away in a CIA vault, the report done by Hipsey 185 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:20,039 House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence or the House Intelligence 186 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:20,840 Committee they call. 187 00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:21,039 Speaker 2: It to. 188 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: Nevertheless, and this was one of the documents Tulsa Gabbard 189 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:31,759 released the other day. Nevertheless, former CIA director John Brennan 190 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:38,519 ordered agency analysts to use this claim in their ICA, 191 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,480 the Intelligence Community Assessment that was issued during the final 192 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:48,120 days of the Obama administration, even though the ICA itself 193 00:12:48,879 --> 00:12:53,840 said that the information on Putin's plans was how it 194 00:12:53,879 --> 00:13:00,559 was obtained was quote not explicitly clear. What does that mean? 195 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,120 I mean you got some piece of raw intel, but 196 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,679 the Intelligence Community Assessment doesn't know how you got it. Well, 197 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:15,399 that was purposeful. John Brennan is at the heart of this. 198 00:13:16,879 --> 00:13:20,679 A forty six page report by the House of Representatives 199 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,080 released a couple of days back, found that the source 200 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,879 of the claim about Putin. Reportedly, this source was a 201 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,720 Russian defector living in northern Virginia who was described as 202 00:13:33,919 --> 00:13:44,159 anti Trump, and what this defector said was speculation. And 203 00:13:44,759 --> 00:13:49,919 this guy was merely speculating to John Brennan about something 204 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,399 he had been told by somebody else, namely that Putin 205 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,519 was quote counting on Trump winning. And that's what Brennan 206 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,840 ran with, that Putin was counting on Trump winning. However, 207 00:14:06,639 --> 00:14:12,639 the analysts in the intelligence agencies, including the CIA, they 208 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:19,120 interpreted that phrase counting on in several different ways. In 209 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,080 my opinion, the most believable way was that it was 210 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,840 actually that they were counting on Trump to win the primary, 211 00:14:27,679 --> 00:14:32,200 because that's when this guy made the comment. He made 212 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,080 it before Trump was even the nominee. And again, remember 213 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:42,840 this was twenty sixteen. Remember how rough and tumble that 214 00:14:42,879 --> 00:14:45,759 primary was. We didn't know who was going to emerge. 215 00:14:45,799 --> 00:14:48,480 A the primary season went on and on, like our 216 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:51,600 vote in North Carolina actually kind of mattered for the 217 00:14:51,639 --> 00:14:55,559 first time in forever, right, because it was all up 218 00:14:55,559 --> 00:14:58,120 in the air, it was up for grabs. Trump kept 219 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,080 eking out these wins in different dates all along the way, 220 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,759 and people wouldn't drop out, and they kept going and 221 00:15:04,759 --> 00:15:07,799 going and going. And so that's when this guy made 222 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,559 the comment that Trump was going to actually win the primary. 223 00:15:12,639 --> 00:15:15,080 It wasn't about the general at that time. That's my 224 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,759 that's my theory, So it's not eme of a theory 225 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:26,440 like that's that's my estimation. My analysis. ICA participants that 226 00:15:26,519 --> 00:15:29,919 different ideas about what this phrase could mean. Many NSA 227 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:35,080 and CIA officials read the words counting on as meaning 228 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,480 the same thing as expected, which is much different than 229 00:15:38,519 --> 00:15:46,279 the language that Putin preferred Trump. Right, Putin expecting Trump 230 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:51,679 to win doesn't mean that he prefers Trump win. The 231 00:15:51,679 --> 00:15:56,080 Congressional Review determined that the ICA did not cite any 232 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,639 classified report where Putin directly indicated helping Trump to win 233 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,039 would be the objective. There was never any proof, no 234 00:16:04,159 --> 00:16:08,080 direct evidence of this. Ever, the report says that the 235 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,360 ICA judgment on Putin's thoughts about helping candidate Trump does 236 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:18,440 not stand if Brennan's single interpretation of the fragment is wrong, 237 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,240 because there is literally no other intelligence corroborating it. All Right, 238 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:25,120 if you're listening to this show, you know I try 239 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,879 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 240 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,000 I know you do too, And you've probably heard me 241 00:16:29,039 --> 00:16:33,240 say get your news from multiple sources. Why, Well, because 242 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:35,960 it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've 243 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,320 been so impressed with ground News. 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Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen 255 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:18,160 percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to 256 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,599 get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not 257 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,640 only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News 258 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,440 as they make the media landscape more transparent. Andy the 259 00:17:28,519 --> 00:17:32,000 Plumber says, Hey there, Pete, great show as always, Thank you, Andy. 260 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,039 Keep telling the truth and reporting it as it happened. History, 261 00:17:35,079 --> 00:17:38,960 Actual history is not easily refuted. These events happened. We 262 00:17:39,079 --> 00:17:42,240 witnessed the undermining of a presidency when they couldn't when 263 00:17:42,279 --> 00:17:45,440 they couldn't find anything, they made it up top to bottom. 264 00:17:45,519 --> 00:17:48,000 All who participated should be held to account for it. 265 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,400 Thanks for all you do well. That's and Andy, I 266 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,079 appreciate it. That's that's why I cover this like I 267 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,640 cover it because I don't think people being ignorant of 268 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:03,559 it will help drive account of ability. Another message from 269 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,960 somebody else in ATO three number. In your opinion, do 270 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,359 you feel anybody will be charged with a real crime 271 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,000 that sticks. I don't know. I don't know, but the 272 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,680 impaneling of a federal grand jury on the matter that 273 00:18:15,799 --> 00:18:20,720 was announced, that's a good sign. Make their case show 274 00:18:20,759 --> 00:18:27,200 the evidence. So let me, uh hang on a second. Oh, 275 00:18:27,319 --> 00:18:29,759 I have this other thing breaking news. The House Oversight 276 00:18:29,839 --> 00:18:35,640 Committee has subpoenaed Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton and former 277 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,960 Attorney General Bill Barr and former Attorney General Jeff's sessions 278 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:47,359 in relation to the Epstein case. So back to Paul 279 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:52,920 Sperry's piece at Realclearinvestigations dot com. The Obama Intelligence Community 280 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,240 Assessment or the ICA of Russia's intentions? Did Russia did 281 00:18:57,279 --> 00:19:03,720 putin intend to help Trump win? The assessment changed sharply 282 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:10,559 after Trump won. Before he won, the memo said nothing 283 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,359 made no mention of Putin aspiring for a Trump victory, 284 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,799 although the Russian defector had shared his thoughts about Putin 285 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:23,279 with John Brennan way back in July, months before the election. 286 00:19:23,599 --> 00:19:28,759 The CIA director's November sixth memo said Putin expected Clinton 287 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,319 to win. That's what it said before the election. But 288 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:37,519 then after the election everything changed. In early December, after 289 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:43,519 Obama ordered a new assessment, Brennan dusted off that informance 290 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:51,200 secondhand hearsay, which had been shelved as unreliable. The CIA director, 291 00:19:51,279 --> 00:19:53,720 who had previously worked for Obama in the White House, 292 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:59,960 suddenly insisted that it underpin the new conclusion about Putin's motive. 293 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:05,400 It's also at that time Barack Obama did an interview 294 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,640 with NPR, and it's instructive to go back and listen 295 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,799 to what he said. This was December sixteenth, twenty sixteen, 296 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:19,319 so he's right, so they're already rewriting the ICA and 297 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,720 listen to what he says. 298 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 3: Now, did the Russian hack of the Democratic National Committee 299 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,440 and other targets actually affect the results of the election? 300 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:36,519 Speaker 2: In your view, there's no doubt that it contributed to 301 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:47,039 an atmosphere in which the only focus for weeks at 302 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:57,839 a time, months at a time were Hillary's emails, the 303 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:08,920 Clinton Foundation, political gossip surrounding the DNC, and that whole 304 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:14,079 swirl that ended up dominating the news meant that number 305 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,119 one issues weren't talked about a lot in the coverage. 306 00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:25,960 Huge policy differences were not debated, and vetted elections can 307 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,400 always turn out differently. You never know which factors are 308 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,559 going to make a difference. But I have no doubt 309 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:38,279 that it had some impact. Everyone now acting surprised by 310 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:48,000 the CIA assessment that this was done purposely to improve 311 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:51,680 Trump's chances. And my only point was that shouldn't be 312 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,200 treated as a blockbuster because that was the worst kept 313 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,640 secret in this town. 314 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: Why was that? Was it the worst kept secret? Well, 315 00:22:02,319 --> 00:22:05,559 Brennan was shopping this information around via the Steele dossier. 316 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,079 This is after Trump won, and now they're retconning, retroactively, 317 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,359 retroactive continuity. They're going back and trying to stuff some 318 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:21,519 pieces to make it fit and to cast dispersions on 319 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:25,799 Trump as this Russian asset. Like everybody knew this was coming. 320 00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:29,400 Now we have this assessment. So the interview ends and 321 00:22:29,599 --> 00:22:33,240 in the NPR piece they show a graphic that says. 322 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,559 After the interview, Obama returned to the room to say 323 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:41,799 one more thing about the CIA, and here's what he said. 324 00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: You had something you wanted to add. 325 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: When we're discussing the issue of the Russia, Hank, and 326 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:53,319 I think it is worth noting that when it comes 327 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:59,839 to the motivations of the Russians, that there are still 328 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,920 a whole range of assessments taking place among the agencies. 329 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:09,279 And so when I receive a final report, we'll be 330 00:23:09,319 --> 00:23:14,640 able to, I think, give us a comprehensive and best 331 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:21,160 guess as to those motivations. But that does not, in 332 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:27,039 any way, I think, detract from the basic point that 333 00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:38,039 everyone during the election perceived accurately that in fact, what 334 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:44,119 the Russian hack had done was create more problems for 335 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,160 the Clinton administration the Clinton campaign that it had for 336 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:49,559 the Trump campaign. 337 00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:53,759 Speaker 3: I think you're stopping short of endorsing the CIA conclusion 338 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,759 that the hack was designed to help Donald Trump, as 339 00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:00,000 opposed to some other objective. 340 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,319 Speaker 1: Now, remember the CIA conclusion had not actually been reached. 341 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,519 At this point. The CIA conclusion was being shopped around 342 00:24:08,519 --> 00:24:11,720 to media as high confidence. They were saying, this is 343 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,559 a high confidence conclusion, when it had not actually been 344 00:24:14,599 --> 00:24:17,720 a high confidence conclusion, yet it hadn't been done yet. 345 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,359 And when the report was done and they said it 346 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,640 was high confidence, what we now know was that the 347 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,960 analyst said it's not. But they were bigfooted by their bosses, 348 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:37,319 Brennan and Comy and Clapper. This is how the information 349 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,839 laundering works. You put the information out there and then 350 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,559 you give them a little nibble here. 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So my understanding, 374 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,000 my guests, let me say that I guess as to 375 00:26:01,559 --> 00:26:06,279 why Obama left the interview but then came back, returned 376 00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:08,640 to the room, so he had something else to say 377 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,559 about the CIA, and I think he forgot to make 378 00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:17,839 the connection that this was done to help Trump, right, 379 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,279 and that the intelligence is writing up its ICA and 380 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:26,440 it's coming forward. But he doesn't make the assertion. And 381 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,160 the NPR reporter asked, it sounds like you're stopping short 382 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,599 of saying that they did this to help Trump, and 383 00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:35,519 here was Obama's response. 384 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: Well, I think the point I'm making is that right now, 385 00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:41,640 what you've had at our CIA leaks not an official document, 386 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:49,200 and I think it's important for the process of various 387 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:54,480 agencies comparing notes and thinking about these assessments, because it's 388 00:26:54,519 --> 00:26:58,640 not as if in any of these circumstances, you know, 389 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:06,440 you just have a signed letter in regarding Russian intentions 390 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,319 that's floating around. These are all assessments made based on 391 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:15,599 a wide range of evidence, and different agencies are still 392 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,279 looking at all that stuff, gathering it together and hopefully 393 00:27:20,279 --> 00:27:24,200 putting into a single package. That's precisely why I've asked 394 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,279 that report to be issued before the twentieth, so that 395 00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:31,319 those aspects of at least that are not classified can 396 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,440 be presented in some form to the public. Those aspects 397 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,960 of it that are classified can be presented, as we've 398 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,279 consistently done on a bipartisan basis, to the members of 399 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:43,119 Congress and the relevant committees. 400 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: Right, so there you go. I'm going to walk you 401 00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:48,359 right up to this. I'm not going to say exactly 402 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,839 like this is definitive, because we're still waiting on the assessment. 403 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,960 But when it's done, you all will see. Right now, 404 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,359 you just have leaks. We'll have the final package before 405 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:03,000 Trump is sworn in. The major high confidence judgment of 406 00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:06,200 the ICA rests on one opinion about a text fragment 407 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,200 with uncertain meaning. This text, which would not have been 408 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,480 published without John Brennan's orders to do so. Is cited 409 00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:16,680 using only one interpretation of its meaning and without considering 410 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:22,319 alternative interpretations. That is a violation of statecraft of the 411 00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:25,799 intelligence community director of two three. One alternative was that 412 00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:29,799 Putin was quote counting on Trump winning the primary and 413 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,880 the nomination at the GOP convention, which was in July, 414 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,759 which was two weeks after the informant provided the tip. 415 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,799 That was the relevant timeframe. He said this two weeks 416 00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:46,599 before the GOP convention, when there was talk that they 417 00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:50,319 were going to try to deprive Trump of the nomination. Remember, 418 00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:54,519 they were going to have a contested convention. But this 419 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,519 informant guy some anti Trump Russian defector that is unnamed 420 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,119 and supposedly could not be named because he would have 421 00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:07,880 been whacked by Putin. Yeh slight problem with that story. 422 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,759 Brennan's informant and apparently this was Brennan's informant who he 423 00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:16,720 refused to identify to anybody. It's now understood that this 424 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:21,200 informant is Oleg Smolenkov, who previously worked in the Russian 425 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,400 embassy in Washington and later as a government foreign policy 426 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,039 advisor in Moscow before he moved back to the DC 427 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,559 area in early twenty seventeen. Brennan said that his source 428 00:29:32,599 --> 00:29:35,920 could not be revealed because Putin might have him executed. However, 429 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,720 reporters easily found him living in a six bedroom home 430 00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:44,359 in Stafford, Virginia, listed in his and his wife's real names. 431 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:52,319 Smolenkov was also Brennan's source for the Intelligence community assessments 432 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:59,359 claim that Putin ordered the hacked DNC material to be 433 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:05,720 leaked to wikiliques. Same guy, and his information is based 434 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,400 on somebody else telling him that that's what they think 435 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:15,480 is the case. The report from the House Intelligence Committee 436 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:21,000 also discovered that Brennan personally directed this CIA informants tip 437 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:29,119 not be circulated within formal intelligence community channels, and Brennan 438 00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:32,960 only briefed the team that was working on the ICA. 439 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:36,640 He only spoke about it. He never put it in print, 440 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:40,640 never put it in emails, which raised suspicions among the 441 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:46,640 team that he was tailoring his message to different officials 442 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,480 in order to convince dissenters that the tip was legit 443 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,680 when he knew basically that it wasn't. It wasn't legit. 444 00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:59,079 Brennan knew it wasn't legit. It wouldn't pass muster among 445 00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:02,759 the actual analysts that were compiling it, but he would 446 00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:05,480 go around and talk to people about it in order 447 00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:10,400 to induce an outcome which was then promoted by all 448 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,720 levels of the Democrat Party and the media. But I 449 00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:17,000 repeat myself, all right, that'll do it for this episode. 450 00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:19,119 Thank you so much for listening. I could not do 451 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,279 the show without your support and the support of the 452 00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:24,359 businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, 453 00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:26,599 please support them too and tell them you heard it here. 454 00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:29,279 You can also become a patron at my Patreon page 455 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,960 or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. 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