Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
Speaker 1: my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
Speaker 1: around out here? Did you see what it was or
Speaker 1: was it was? Standing enough? I'm out here looking through
Speaker 1: the window now and I don't see anything. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go outside. Jesus Quice, you better New York. Hello,
Speaker 1: get somebody out here.
Speaker 2: What went on out there?
Speaker 1: I thought of a bit just about six forty nine.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Easy him out there. Yeah, I'm woking right. Ay.
Speaker 2: Oh, Green's Fred and Alaska. Thanks for joining me today.
Speaker 2: Getting around to an update of Vincent Wassley's experience. When
Speaker 2: I initially had shared his experience at anoon a pitchuck
Speaker 2: up up the river, I hadn't spoken to his sister personally,
Speaker 2: And since I've had a chance to speak to her.
Speaker 3: He dug out.
Speaker 2: Some photos from a couple of years. After a year
Speaker 2: or two after with the tracks and the tundra and whatnot.
Speaker 2: I also heard from some different villagers about some very
Speaker 2: picking incidences.
Speaker 3: We'll get into it.
Speaker 2: So back in twenty eleven, in the fall, Vincent, his
Speaker 2: sister Grace, and another relative they went out moose hunting.
Speaker 3: They were a good distance away from the village.
Speaker 2: So what ended up happening is Vincent didn't eat that day,
Speaker 2: and so where they ended up up shoring up on
Speaker 2: the river bank. He decided to go up on the tundra,
Speaker 2: find a berry patch and eat some berries. You get
Speaker 2: something on the stomach. So he was about one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty two hundred feet away from the river bank
Speaker 2: where his sister and cousin were. As he starts to
Speaker 2: pick berries, he hears this long drawn out He says,
Speaker 2: it sounded like a moose call, but like a cow moose.
Speaker 3: Call, just drawn out.
Speaker 2: He realized after sitting there after hearing it that no
Speaker 2: moose don't make that kind of long drawn out noise.
Speaker 3: Bears sure don't. A man.
Speaker 2: A person just isn't capable of that long and that loud,
Speaker 2: because he said it echoed around the lake, which if
Speaker 2: you look on the map, it's a fairly large lake.
Speaker 2: So as he was sitting there eating his berries, he
Speaker 2: came to the conclusion of it's probably a hairy man,
Speaker 2: and he got freaked out.
Speaker 3: So while that was going on, his.
Speaker 2: Sister Grace and their relative were up on this little
Speaker 2: rise off in the day. Since they saw what she
Speaker 2: said looked like a something tall and skinny and brown,
Speaker 2: she was expecting it to be a moose.
Speaker 3: This thing was going.
Speaker 2: Up the rise a little ways, like at a forty
Speaker 2: five degree angle, and then coming back down by this tree.
Speaker 2: She kept expecting it to turn broadside and see the moose,
Speaker 2: but it didn't. After watching it a little bit, she
Speaker 2: realized it was a hairy man going back and forth.
Speaker 2: And she said it looked like almost like they were
Speaker 2: it was looking for something, because it would come down
Speaker 2: by this little tree and just stand by the tree
Speaker 2: like it was looking at the tree for something, and
Speaker 2: then it would go right back over to where it
Speaker 2: was just real odd behavior, she stated. Her cousin didn't
Speaker 2: say much different as far as that was concerned. But
Speaker 2: once Vincent gets back to the skipper from where he was.
Speaker 2: They just kept it on the hush because Vincent was
Speaker 2: a little freaked out by it, which I mean totally
Speaker 2: understandable for something to make that loud of a noise
Speaker 2: at that distance for it to echo around.
Speaker 3: Look, these are native villagers. They know their area. Just
Speaker 3: look at the map and they go around there all
Speaker 3: the time without a map.
Speaker 2: They know their area, they know what's in it, they
Speaker 2: know where to go for berries, for fishing, the whole bit.
Speaker 2: So when Vincent gets back to the skiff and asked, hey,
Speaker 2: did you guys hear that, they left it alone and
Speaker 2: said no. When Vincent about a week or so later,
Speaker 2: heard a similar sound on a Bigfoot show, he was like,
Speaker 2: that was it.
Speaker 3: That was it.
Speaker 2: And then that's when his sister and cousin came forward
Speaker 2: and said, we heard it too, but you were freaked
Speaker 2: out and we didn't want to keep you going kind
Speaker 2: of deal, which is totally understandable something to understand about
Speaker 2: a lot of natives.
Speaker 3: They don't typically share these things.
Speaker 2: So I'm very thankful to Vincent for coming forward and
Speaker 2: be willing to share, definitely, because there's a lot of
Speaker 2: natives that want to remain anonymous, which I totally understand
Speaker 2: they have to live there, and regardless if everyone knows
Speaker 2: it's there, there's still, for some reason, there's still this
Speaker 2: It's almost like a shame type of deal. Even though
Speaker 2: it's not anyone's fault, any of these experiences that I've
Speaker 2: shared with you guys, it's no one's fault that they
Speaker 2: were put in that position. Separate from Vincent, in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, there was a group of women and children
Speaker 2: near the same area.
Speaker 3: Oh, forgive me, let me back up a little bit.
Speaker 2: A year or two after that experience Vincent had with
Speaker 2: his sister and cousin, they were further up. They were
Speaker 2: up the I believe he said it was a Johnson
Speaker 2: River near the Kowskag Mountains, and that's where the track
Speaker 2: came from. They thought it was a bear track initially.
Speaker 2: They followed it through the brush to the opening, saw
Speaker 2: what kind of track it was, and tracking was over.
Speaker 2: They got those picks and what have you, which if
Speaker 2: you look at those tracks, the amount of weight to
Speaker 2: break through to the soil that's immense.
Speaker 3: You're talking thousand pounds plus.
Speaker 2: I doubt if all three of them that were there
Speaker 2: at the time jumped on each other's back they could
Speaker 2: have impressed the ground that deeply, very compelling stuff. And
Speaker 2: again thanks to Vincent for sharing those picks with us.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's a lot of other villagers with
Speaker 2: a whole lot of stuff out there.
Speaker 3: It just doesn't get shared around.
Speaker 2: We might see a blip on Facebook here and there,
Speaker 2: but typically because immediately people will start saying they're fake
Speaker 2: or whatever. Most natives they just all right, they just don't.
Speaker 2: They just don't post just because of the ridicule. And
Speaker 2: I don't blame them, and why I put yourself out
Speaker 2: there just to be shot down, made fun of, or
Speaker 2: called the liar things of that nature.
Speaker 3: It's just junk.
Speaker 2: So separate from Vincent, these other villagers in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: they were approximately three point six miles outside of the village.
Speaker 2: There was a group of women and children and the
Speaker 2: males that were in the party were off bury picking.
Speaker 2: The women and children were in this one area near
Speaker 2: the skiffs, just.
Speaker 3: Doing their thing, hanging out whatever.
Speaker 2: Way off in the distance, they see this dark thing
Speaker 2: moving backwards and forwards. One of the first things asked
Speaker 2: to an elder is do we look that tall at
Speaker 2: that distance? It was a younger person in the group.
Speaker 2: They all said no, So they all start watching this
Speaker 2: thing and it's just going back and forth. I asked
Speaker 2: if there was any creepy feelings, and it was more
Speaker 2: of a curiosity thing because I think the distance alleviated
Speaker 2: the immediate fear.
Speaker 3: Well, this went on for a while.
Speaker 2: They wanted to holler and get the attention of the
Speaker 2: guys that were in the group just down a ways
Speaker 2: berry picking, but they didn't want to draw attention to
Speaker 2: the people berry picking and potentially give the hairy man
Speaker 2: a reason that basically didn't want to draw attention to
Speaker 2: the berry pickers, so they just they stayed quiet. After
Speaker 2: a while, once the people made their way back to
Speaker 2: the skiff, they pointed out they all looked, Well, this
Speaker 2: thing came and dropped down in the tundra. Whether it
Speaker 2: was hiding or disappeared somehow, they couldn't tell because of
Speaker 2: the distance. But it was definitely not a villager. It
Speaker 2: was too big. I'm just mentally envisioning this thne moving
Speaker 2: back and forth and then dropping down in the tundra.
Speaker 2: There's little drops and it's very uneven on the tundra.
Speaker 3: You'll have little mounds, you'll have smaller.
Speaker 2: Rises with maybe some black spruce, all this kind of thing.
Speaker 3: So it's a very terrain. Even though it may look
Speaker 3: flat on a map, that's not the case.
Speaker 2: Once you get down to the ground, you know you
Speaker 2: got the spongy moss, the tundra, the berry bushes. It's
Speaker 2: a bumpy terrain. This thing had just dropped down and
Speaker 2: basically was either hiding or something else. All they know
Speaker 2: is that it disappeared. My first thought when I heard
Speaker 2: that was the spider crawl deal.
Speaker 3: Some creepy shit. Regardless. Another thing, a lot.
Speaker 2: Of my fellow natives that share their experience, their integrity
Speaker 2: is such that if I missed up on something, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna hear from Vincent on this because they're very meticulous,
Speaker 2: because out in the village you need to know exactly
Speaker 2: what batch of tundra, what this, and that.
Speaker 3: Is, oh, something I had left out.
Speaker 2: There was another very picker during that same thing where
Speaker 2: the one disappeared that once they talked to this person later,
Speaker 2: which was right in the immediate area, just not right
Speaker 2: with the women and children and such. He had his
Speaker 2: own skiff and was doing his own thing, but near
Speaker 2: there he reported feeling watched and got creeped out and
Speaker 2: left out of there soon, so.
Speaker 3: I didn't forget that part.
Speaker 2: Vincent almost did my point, being very meticulous with the
Speaker 2: integrity of what they're sharing, very meticulous. Again, if I
Speaker 2: missed anything, I'm sure I'll get a text or a
Speaker 2: call from Vincent and he'll set me straight on it.
Speaker 2: I apologize ahead of time if there was any little
Speaker 2: nuances that were left out from that. Again, Vincent's experience
Speaker 2: happened in twenty eleven. The following year or the year after,
Speaker 2: he's not quite sure was when they got the photos
Speaker 2: on the tundra. The last part of this experience happened
Speaker 2: to separate villagers in twenty twenty one, again approximately three
Speaker 2: point six miles away from the village. Vincent is reaching
Speaker 2: out to other villagers to see if they'll come forward.
Speaker 2: It can be tough just because of the amount of ridicule.
Speaker 2: There's people that will post on Facebook and immediately get
Speaker 2: ripped to shreds by others. And it's really unfortunate because
Speaker 2: a lot of people doing that, dishing out the ridicule
Speaker 2: moren't likely have never gotten off their lazy ass and
Speaker 2: been out in the woods or anywhere remote. You got
Speaker 2: to understand. This is west of Bethel, north of Nunapitchuk.
Speaker 2: It's the epitome of remote. You can't get any more
Speaker 2: remote than that. I make a joke, and I say
Speaker 2: it jokingly, but you step off the road anywhere in Alaska,
Speaker 2: you're automatically remote.
Speaker 3: It's just how it is.
Speaker 2: We have moose that come through, we have bears that
Speaker 2: come through, fox you name it.
Speaker 3: There's wildlife everywhere.
Speaker 2: It's one of the few places like I know down
Speaker 2: in the States there's black bear problems and stuff like this,
Speaker 2: and deer will come in. But up here, when the
Speaker 2: wildlife come through, it's wildlife. There's no tameness to a moose.
Speaker 2: A moose will stomp you to death.
Speaker 3: I got a.
Speaker 2: Moose that's been coming around for the past few days.
Speaker 2: I gotta make sure I watch out for the dogs.
Speaker 2: You gotta go outside first, make sure take a look
Speaker 2: around with the flashlight. Make sure there's not a moose
Speaker 2: betted down in your yard, because if you let your
Speaker 2: dogs out, they're immediately going to run towards the moose.
Speaker 2: Most is gonna stand up and in Benji's life, you
Speaker 2: don't want that. That's an ugly scene, trust me. You
Speaker 2: don't want that at all. Again, thanks to Vincent, Thanks
Speaker 2: to those other villagers. I also encourage other villagers who
Speaker 2: have had experiences go ahead and share. I'll keep your
Speaker 2: name out of it. If you want the exact locations
Speaker 2: left out. I've already done that several times for others.
Speaker 2: Let's get these things shared with everybody so that way
Speaker 2: it's more known and.
Speaker 3: Less likely to run into ridicule in the future.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me in my backyard again. Finally, the
Speaker 2: sun came back out and rainy and skeeters are ferocious.
Speaker 2: What I wanted to share with you today comes from
Speaker 2: Lorraine now years ago. Lorraine's retired now, but she's a volcanologist.
Speaker 2: For those who don't know, they study volcanoes up here
Speaker 2: cat my. It's known as Lanta ten thousand smokes because
Speaker 2: back in with nineteen twelve or nineteen sixteen, it was
Speaker 2: the largest volcanic event in North American history. And for
Speaker 2: a long time there was steam vents and stuff, and
Speaker 2: they were there to study. And this was back in
Speaker 2: the seventies. Now, what ended up happening was they fly in, right,
Speaker 2: they fly in by floatplane. It's her a colleague, the
Speaker 2: pilot and the guy to watch the bears. Now, Cat,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of bear hunting that goes on out there,
Speaker 2: big coastal brown bears, humongous, huge brown bears. Ten foot
Speaker 2: plus is an uncommon, well over one thousand pounds, really
Speaker 2: big bears. And so they get out there and they're
Speaker 2: doing a study for They are checking for whatever kind
Speaker 2: of particulates near the river and older river beds and
Speaker 2: just basically doing soil samples, trying to assess whatever. I'm
Speaker 2: not a volcanologist, so I don't know, but they're basically
Speaker 2: getting dirt samples and stuff like that for whatever reason
Speaker 2: they were doing. But anyway, so Laurie said when they
Speaker 2: were out there, they had flew in early in the
Speaker 2: morning out of King Salmon, and when they got there,
Speaker 2: she said, it was weird from the beginning. When they
Speaker 2: landed the plane, they hiked along this little lake and
Speaker 2: they went north, just due north. After they landed, she said,
Speaker 2: the whole time, everyone in the group, the pilots, stayed
Speaker 2: over by the plane. They had their security guy and
Speaker 2: her colleague and both of them were wrapped up and
Speaker 2: talking about bear hunting and this and that. Right, So
Speaker 2: she's just going along just following along because they got
Speaker 2: to get up to this point on this kind of
Speaker 2: a wash out. Now, back in the seventies, it wasn't
Speaker 2: all vegetated in and have all the undergrowth. It was
Speaker 2: still wide open. Now on the map you'll see it differently.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of vegetation there and stuff. But that's
Speaker 2: just because I was almost fifty years ago now, which
Speaker 2: is crazy to say. Anyway, So they get up to
Speaker 2: where they're going to start taking their samples and work
Speaker 2: their way back down to the plane take off and
Speaker 2: go to a different spot. So I'm goen to get
Speaker 2: up to this point. Their security guy goes up on
Speaker 2: this little bit of a ridge and is looking around
Speaker 2: for any sign of brown bears near them, and he's
Speaker 2: just keeping an eye out while her and her colleague
Speaker 2: are down by this washout getting their samples or whatever. Now,
Speaker 2: she said they felt like they were being watched too,
Speaker 2: the two guys they kept talking about. They kept looking around, saying, man,
Speaker 2: it feels like we're being watched. Thought nothing of it.
Speaker 2: They're out in the wilds of Alaska, You're bound to
Speaker 2: feel a little a little weird. As they're going along,
Speaker 2: she stops and she's doing whatever with a little spade shovel.
Speaker 2: She's moving some stuff around, looking for smaller particulars from
Speaker 2: the e or whatever. She's just just digging through the
Speaker 2: dirt basicle.
Speaker 3: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea. We'll
Speaker 3: be right back after these messages, she said. All of
Speaker 3: a sudden, she gets this overwhelming hurt to look up.
Speaker 3: And what she does.
Speaker 2: She looks directly in front of her and in the brush,
Speaker 2: which isn't as big as it is now. She said,
Speaker 2: it was about five foot tall brush. When she looks
Speaker 2: over to it, she notices a dark shape kind of
Speaker 2: sink down in there, and at first she thought it
Speaker 2: was a wind blowing and just getting her attention that way,
Speaker 2: just thought it was a shadow. Her colleague had his
Speaker 2: back towards this thing and it was facing her, and
Speaker 2: she points out to him, Hey, there was a dark
Speaker 2: mass over there in the brush. Guys like, oh, we
Speaker 2: got our guy watching for bears or whatever. We should
Speaker 2: be okay, so let's focus on the work. Let's get
Speaker 2: out of here. As they were having that little conversation,
Speaker 2: she's looking over his shoulder as he's talking to her,
Speaker 2: and from what she said, this thing peaked up, saw
Speaker 2: it peek up, and she wasn't sure what she was seeing,
Speaker 2: and then she saw it move off. Now, I asked her,
Speaker 2: what did you see when it moved off? And all
Speaker 2: she saw was this roundish looking head, real dark, couldn't
Speaker 2: make anything out because of the distance, and it moved
Speaker 2: from directly in front of her off to her left
Speaker 2: through the brush, going away from them. She mentions it
Speaker 2: again because she didn't know what it was. She thought
Speaker 2: it was maybe a bear peeking. And so her colleague
Speaker 2: stands up and yells at the guy up on the
Speaker 2: ridge and starts pointing back behind him. Hey, look over,
Speaker 2: is there anything what's going on over here? Guys looking
Speaker 2: to a scope in his rifle and he just shrugs,
Speaker 2: waves that's okay or whatever. So her colleague, trusting this guy,
Speaker 2: was like, okay, there's nothing.
Speaker 3: He looked, it's okay. So they move on down.
Speaker 2: Basically, what they're doing is working their way back down
Speaker 2: to where the floatplane is parked, so they get to
Speaker 2: their second spot again. For whatever reason, they're just gathering
Speaker 2: these samples, and I guess it's for dispersion of whatever.
Speaker 3: I'm not a volcanologist.
Speaker 2: I don't know. So they get to the second spot,
Speaker 2: but the whole time they were walking down this old
Speaker 2: wash out, she sensed very heavily that she was being watched,
Speaker 2: and she kept getting the feeling like something's just not right.
Speaker 2: And so from what Lorraine said was is when they
Speaker 2: get to the second spot, her colleague was very uneasy.
Speaker 2: She said she never seen him look so out of place.
Speaker 2: He was fidgety, he was looking around, and she asked, hey,
Speaker 2: is everything okay, and he said, look, I don't feel right.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm being stared at. They're both looking
Speaker 2: around and they're not seeing anything. And as they're doing that,
Speaker 2: when they were leaving the first spot, they had signaled
Speaker 2: for the guy with the rifle that they're moving, and
Speaker 2: so he was shortly behind them. Bad idea. You don't
Speaker 2: want your security so far away that you can't do
Speaker 2: your job. Anyway, it is what it is. So he
Speaker 2: comes up. He's standing over him and looking around, and
Speaker 2: her colleague is letting him know, hey, I don't feel right.
Speaker 3: Something's off.
Speaker 2: So as he's explaining to the guy with the gun,
Speaker 2: the security guy, what he was feeling or whatever, they
Speaker 2: both start looking off into the brush to the west
Speaker 2: as they're doing so, their security guy goes, oh, I
Speaker 2: see the bear.
Speaker 3: I see the bear.
Speaker 2: I'll go check it out. So he circles off to
Speaker 2: the left and starts cutting up in the brush, yelling,
Speaker 2: hey bear. And so they're watching what's unfolding right as
Speaker 2: a security guy, she said, walks off to the left
Speaker 2: and is going approaching the brush, making all this noise,
Speaker 2: waiting for this bear to bust out of there or
Speaker 2: run away or whatever. All of a sudden, directly in
Speaker 2: front of her and her colleague, because they're looking off
Speaker 2: to their left, but directly in front of them, this
Speaker 2: thing stands up and looks down at Lorraine and her
Speaker 2: colleague sees it first. Lorraine's still looking at security guy.
Speaker 2: Her colleague snatches her and faces her that direction, and
Speaker 2: she immediately sees it.
Speaker 3: She said it was massive.
Speaker 2: She said that the sun was coming up behind them
Speaker 2: and it it up. And she said the skin was black.
Speaker 2: The skin was black, the hair looked brown. Couldn't make
Speaker 2: out too many features in the face because it was
Speaker 2: just a little too far away to make out features.
Speaker 2: But she could see the glint of the daylight in
Speaker 2: this thing's black eyes. And she said it was just
Speaker 2: looking at her, and she said the feeling she had
Speaker 2: was that it was sizing up the situation. Now that's
Speaker 2: all speculative, it's twenty twenty hindsight type things. She's had
Speaker 2: fifty years to dwell on it. I tend to take
Speaker 2: people's feelings in these circumstances over speculation, and her feeling
Speaker 2: was is that she was being observed and sized up.
Speaker 2: The group was being sized up. So immediately she screams
Speaker 2: very loud, gets the attention of the guy with the
Speaker 2: gun who is off to their left, and the brush
Speaker 2: is obscuring what they're seeing. So he comes running back
Speaker 2: over and he's running about half ready with the rifle,
Speaker 2: and he gets to the point and just as he
Speaker 2: sees this thing, it drops down out of you and
Speaker 2: they hear rush moving away down to the south right southwest.
Speaker 2: Immediately the guys, we gotta go, we gotta go. So
Speaker 2: from that second position they move on down and they
Speaker 2: were just getting overby where the plane was. They're within
Speaker 2: one hundred yards of the plane.
Speaker 3: They could see it. And as they were.
Speaker 2: Doing so, they get to a point to where they
Speaker 2: got to go through the brush and it's real thick,
Speaker 2: so they're trying to pick a spot to go through,
Speaker 2: and there's a little bit of a creek coming out
Speaker 2: from there. At that point there was the beginnings of
Speaker 2: a beaver dam that they were trying to negotiate and
Speaker 2: get back and forth around, and she said, as they
Speaker 2: were circling back, going a little bit north to find
Speaker 2: a little bit of a game trail to cut through,
Speaker 2: because there's bear trails everywhere. She said, as they were
Speaker 2: looking for that, all of a sudden, the guy with
Speaker 2: the rifle screams and they all turn around. Her and
Speaker 2: a colleague turn around to look to see what he's doing.
Speaker 2: And he's yelling at this thing in the brush. That's
Speaker 2: just she said, it kept cocking his head to the side,
Speaker 2: kind of like a curious dog would, just looking at him.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what am I seeing? And they're doing the
Speaker 2: same thing back.
Speaker 3: She said.
Speaker 2: In hindsight, it was comical because you got this large
Speaker 2: creature and these three people were looking at it, and
Speaker 2: they're all doing this number like looking at each other,
Speaker 2: like what the hell is that?
Speaker 3: She said. She wasn't laughing at the time, but she
Speaker 3: can laugh about it now. She said.
Speaker 2: The guy with a rifle fire is a shot off
Speaker 2: right in the air because he's freaked out. This thing
Speaker 2: just takes off just directly away from him. Gone, she said.
Speaker 2: They bust through the brush heading back towards the plane.
Speaker 2: They lost a bunch of their materials. They didn't give
Speaker 2: a flying rats ass right. They get through there, and
Speaker 2: the pilot is out on the pontoon and he's got
Speaker 2: his pistol in his hand. Is everyone okay? Is everyone okay?
Speaker 2: And they're like, yeah, we're fine, we're fine. We just
Speaker 2: saw something over there. Immediately the pilots said, yeah, we
Speaker 2: got big bears over here. You know that. I take
Speaker 2: hunters out here all the time. YadA, It's just a
Speaker 2: big brown bear. Don't worry, just get on board. We'll
Speaker 2: go somewhere else or whatever.
Speaker 3: She said.
Speaker 2: What really bothered her is she was trying to get
Speaker 2: the words to share what they had actually seen, and
Speaker 2: her colleague immediately was like, don't say nothing. And the
Speaker 2: guy with the gun, the security guy, who was his
Speaker 2: own person. He wasn't obligated to anyone but himself, he
Speaker 2: was just hired on for a job. He tells the
Speaker 2: pilot it was a bear. I saw the bear. We're fine,
Speaker 2: let's go it took off, and that's where she left it.
Speaker 2: She didn't press the issue with her colleague. She talked
Speaker 2: to her colleague later on and was trying to engage
Speaker 2: everything he saw because she kept doubting everything she's seen,
Speaker 2: and so she kept engaging him over the course the
Speaker 2: next couple months as they were working what do you
Speaker 2: think that was? What do you really think that was?
Speaker 2: And the guy just would shake his head and change
Speaker 2: his subjects. So she left it alone. Her grandson reached
Speaker 2: out to me and asked me if I would give
Speaker 2: her a call, and I told him, hey, you have
Speaker 2: her call me, because I don't want to pressure anybody.
Speaker 2: If they don't want to share, they don't want to share.
Speaker 2: I'm still waiting to hear from the people who recorded
Speaker 2: that video. Sometimes people haven't experience and they don't want
Speaker 2: to carry on about it or whatever.
Speaker 3: They just move forward.
Speaker 2: Had him tell her to give me a call if
Speaker 2: she felt like it, and she reached out, and I
Speaker 2: want to say thank you, Lorraine. I know it was
Speaker 2: one of those things that you don't really want to relive,
Speaker 2: and I get it. Yeah, it can be rough, It
Speaker 2: really can, especially when the people around you are not
Speaker 2: denying it, but just not really willing to engage and
Speaker 2: conversate about it. I'm going to thank you guys for
Speaker 2: joining me. I want to thank Lorraine especially for reaching
Speaker 2: out for those who have had an experience. Man, don't
Speaker 2: beat yourself up because you didn't ask for that shit,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people who self medicate.
Speaker 2: They get very closed off to everyone around them because
Speaker 2: they don't know how to cope with this type of stuff,
Speaker 2: and it really sucks. So I want to thank her
Speaker 2: for reaching out. It'd being difficult and all. Well, what
Speaker 2: I want to share with you today comes from right nearby,
Speaker 2: just west to doing him.
Speaker 3: Snake River.
Speaker 2: Now, this, according what Corey was saying, happened about a
Speaker 2: decade ago. Okay, so what he was doing was helping
Speaker 2: a friend of his, Bob, take a skiff that he
Speaker 2: was trying to sell up the Snake River up to
Speaker 2: the lake. There was a local guy up there that
Speaker 2: wanted to purchase it. If he could get it there,
Speaker 2: he would purchase it. So Bob happened to have picked
Speaker 2: this particular skiff up from a different outfitter buddy who
Speaker 2: was updating his fleet. Basically, the boats he used for
Speaker 2: his guide service. So what Corey said was he agreed
Speaker 2: to go along just for the adventure of it, which
Speaker 2: I totally get I would too. He goes along with him,
Speaker 2: and he's having a great time because he spent a
Speaker 2: couple of days up the Nushigek River where Bob was
Speaker 2: getting the skiff from and all this stuff. It was
Speaker 2: an adventure, right. Corey was actually going to work on
Speaker 2: a fishing boat once the season started up, so this
Speaker 2: was just before everything started kicking off real heavy. So
Speaker 2: it goes with Bob and they get up the Snake River.
Speaker 2: They were just above the tidal area, which is quite
Speaker 2: a ways in there, and so they come up to
Speaker 2: the spot and the motor was overheating.
Speaker 3: It wasn't filtering water through.
Speaker 2: So Bob wanted to stop before it causing any damage
Speaker 2: and work it out, you know what I mean. He
Speaker 2: had tools with him and everything. He's just getting ready
Speaker 2: to sell this thing. He doesn't need it acting up
Speaker 2: when he gets to the potential buyer.
Speaker 3: And this is still relatively.
Speaker 2: Early in the morning from what Corey was saying, And
Speaker 2: so they stopped and Bob gets to work. Corey brings
Speaker 2: a bear gun and he starts exploring. Basically, he lets
Speaker 2: Bob know, hey, I'm gonna walk through the brush over
Speaker 2: this way. I'm gonna check out the marsh over there.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of ponds a little further over and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Corey liked wildlife, like ducks and stuff, and there was
Speaker 2: happened to be ducks and some snow geese and some
Speaker 2: other stuff landing over there, so he wanted to go
Speaker 2: and check it out. Bob's like, be careful, watch out
Speaker 2: for bears, and don't be long. Check in with me
Speaker 2: every once in a while. So no, you're okay, Corey
Speaker 2: is sure, no problem. Corey isn't an outdoors man at all.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: This job on the salmon boat, he got it out
Speaker 2: of happenstance from a friend in Seattle. So he's genuinely
Speaker 2: awestruck the beauty of the area, fresh air. He's having
Speaker 2: the time of his life initially. So he gets up
Speaker 2: and he's watching the swampy area and he's got an
Speaker 2: eye on the ducks and stuff, and he starts catching
Speaker 2: this weird smell.
Speaker 3: He heard bears smell bad. So I'm going to head back.
Speaker 2: So he turns around he gets up from where he
Speaker 2: was sitting and he starts walking back towards where the
Speaker 2: skiff is parked, and he's maybe one hundred yards away
Speaker 2: ish somewhere in there, maybe a hair more, and he
Speaker 2: could see Bob down there doing his thing, like the
Speaker 2: cowing's off, the motor's kicked up, and Bob's obviously still
Speaker 2: working on the skiff. So he turns around and starts
Speaker 2: looking around to see if he could spot this bear.
Speaker 3: He hollers back towards Bob.
Speaker 2: After he circles around and didn't see anything, he hollers back.
Speaker 2: Bob waves him over right, come over here. I can't
Speaker 2: hear you or whatever. He takes his short jot just
Speaker 2: gets back over there. He said it was weird. The
Speaker 2: whole time he was walking back to tell Bob about
Speaker 2: the weird smell, he kept feeling watched. And so when
Speaker 2: he gets over there, Bob says, hey, I don't have
Speaker 2: that much longer.
Speaker 3: I'll be done.
Speaker 2: We'll fire it up all this kind of stuff and
Speaker 2: we should be able to get going here. I want
Speaker 2: to get up there and get done. Corey has no problem.
Speaker 2: Hey there's a weird smell, and he goes it's probably
Speaker 2: just a bear. Just stay close, don't go so far away,
Speaker 2: so that way, if something God forbid does happen, I
Speaker 2: can help out and be closer or whatever.
Speaker 3: And so Cory's he had no problem.
Speaker 2: Ask him how long he'd be said about forty five
Speaker 2: more minutes tops, and Corey starts walking off again and
Speaker 2: he goes about half the distance and getting that smell again.
Speaker 2: So he's really nervous because he doesn't know squad about bears.
Speaker 2: So he said he started looking around and there was
Speaker 2: just small brush mainly for the most part, but off
Speaker 2: to his left, he said, yeah, and he's guessing because
Speaker 2: he wasn't all that great with distances, but he's guessing
Speaker 2: maybe fifty to seventy feet away was this brush that seemed.
Speaker 3: To be moving with no wind blowing. So he was
Speaker 3: immediately like, oh, hey bear, hey bear.
Speaker 2: Starts yelling out his friend Bob is get your ass
Speaker 2: back over here, because he heard him saying, hey bear,
Speaker 2: hey bear.
Speaker 3: Bob wanted him close.
Speaker 2: So Bob stops what he's doing, grabs his handgun and
Speaker 2: gets out of the skiff and up on the bank
Speaker 2: and starts walking in the direction where Corey's standing. Because
Speaker 2: Cory said, once that brush started moving, he felt like
Speaker 2: his legs were cemented to the ground. He got instantly scared,
Speaker 2: really bad. Was like he was stuck in place a
Speaker 2: fight or flight. He was stuck, and so Bob's walking
Speaker 2: over to him, and he said, Bob had covered about
Speaker 2: half the distance when all of a sudden, the brush
Speaker 2: just came alive with this god awful noise, and the
Speaker 2: brush was shaking and it was a growl mixed with
Speaker 2: a scream that unglued his feet. He said, his feet
Speaker 2: were no longer in cement, and he took off running.
Speaker 2: Bob's walking his path straight to him. Right, So all
Speaker 2: this transpires, Bob's standing there, He's got his gun out.
Speaker 2: He's looking in the direction of the brush, like what
Speaker 2: the hell? Corey was spooped like a jack rabbit, he said.
Speaker 2: He turned and took off running, and as he was running,
Speaker 2: he wasn't watching where he was going. He was looking
Speaker 2: back at the brush and plows right into Bob. Because
Speaker 2: Bob was focused on the brush, didn't realize Corey was
Speaker 2: that freaked out and was going to mow him down,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So he knocks him over.
Speaker 2: They both jump back up real quick. Bob's cussing, what
Speaker 2: the hell's wrong with you? Watch where the hell you're going?
Speaker 3: Man? You don't run, you don't run.
Speaker 2: Corey wasn't hearing none of it because when he had
Speaker 2: fallen down, he had dropped the shotgun and just continued
Speaker 2: running to the skiff and Bob's trying to get him
Speaker 2: to stop. Bob holsters a pistol, picks up the shotgun
Speaker 2: and is looking over because that situation still happening over
Speaker 2: in the brush. Bob was like, what the hell Corey
Speaker 2: could hear Bob saying, what the hell? What the hell
Speaker 2: is that? What the hell is that?
Speaker 3: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
Speaker 3: right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: According to what Corey said, when he got to the skiff,
Speaker 2: he's looking back at Bob yelling at him.
Speaker 3: Come on.
Speaker 2: As he's yelling at him, he said, Bob turned and
Speaker 2: looked at him to tell him to quiet down. He
Speaker 2: was trying to listen because there's some noises going on
Speaker 2: that Corey couldn't make out. As Bob is looking at
Speaker 2: him telling him to calm down, Corey can see passed
Speaker 2: him into the brush and this thing stands up, and
Speaker 2: Corey said when that thing stood up, he instantly felt
Speaker 2: sick to his stomach. He felt everything just churned and
Speaker 2: curdled in his stomach immediately. He said, it was dark,
Speaker 2: that's all he saw, was like a dark manlike figure.
Speaker 2: When Bob turns and sees it, Bob was like holy.
Speaker 2: He started freaking out, and he points the shotgun in
Speaker 2: that direction and starts yelling, get out of here, get
Speaker 2: out of here. This thing lets out a weird bellow.
Speaker 2: He couldn't really explaining it too well, but sounded just
Speaker 2: this god awful noise. It lets out this bellow towards
Speaker 2: them and then nonchalantly starts walking off and Bob as
Speaker 2: soon as it turns and is walking away and not
Speaker 2: focused on Bob. Bob starts running back to the skiff
Speaker 2: as well, and is yelling at Corey to get the
Speaker 2: calling on the motor, get the calling on the motor
Speaker 2: or whatever. Corey doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
Speaker 2: There was still work to do on it, and there's
Speaker 2: some tools out and stuff. Corey didn't know, so he
Speaker 2: just froze. He was like, I don't know. So Bob
Speaker 2: comes running over, hands him the shotgun says, you keep
Speaker 2: an eye out on that thing and tell me what
Speaker 2: it's doing.
Speaker 3: Corey wanted no part of it. He was freaked out.
Speaker 2: So he's standing there on one of the rungs of
Speaker 2: the skiff trying to look that direction, and once it
Speaker 2: walked off and got a certain distance, he couldn't see shit.
Speaker 2: Bob's doing this thing with the motor, getting what he
Speaker 2: was doing back together. Once he did and fires it up,
Speaker 2: it seemed to be working better the stream of water
Speaker 2: that circulates through because it's got this little pump that
Speaker 2: sucks water through as a coolant and spits it out,
Speaker 2: and so it seemed to be operating better or whatever.
Speaker 2: And so they push off, they back out, and they
Speaker 2: start ripping up river. According to what Corey said, happened
Speaker 2: next was they get about three bends up. The bends
Speaker 2: aren't real tight, so in a big scheme of things,
Speaker 2: they weren't traveling very far north. It was just it
Speaker 2: was eating up by these curves.
Speaker 3: Going around in the river.
Speaker 2: And again, the location I show on the map is
Speaker 2: strictly a reference. It's not the exact place because Corey
Speaker 2: was unable to figure out the exact place first time
Speaker 2: up there a lot of first times for him that day.
Speaker 2: So he said, when they were about three more binds
Speaker 2: up going along, he was freaking out and Bob was
Speaker 2: a laughing. I don't know what the hell that was, man,
Speaker 2: but it was massive. And so they're going along and
Speaker 2: Bob slows down, bottles down and is looking up on
Speaker 2: the bank and points, and Corey turns and looks, and
Speaker 2: there it was, standing over off the river bank, looking
Speaker 2: at him in the brush. It was standing there. It
Speaker 2: wasn't doing anything but just standing and watching. Bob starts
Speaker 2: yelling at it, and it stood there. Finally he stopped yelling,
Speaker 2: and whatever he was doing, it fired back up, and
Speaker 2: they continued on.
Speaker 3: The cell went through, they got rid of the skiff.
Speaker 2: They got a ride from a friend from Snakelike back
Speaker 2: to Dillingham, and they were going to go out the
Speaker 2: next day back to camp. Bob was going to return
Speaker 2: to his job basically, and Corey was just going to
Speaker 2: stand Dillingham. Corey said that when he was in Dillingham
Speaker 2: he went down to the Cnbar that's right down from
Speaker 2: and End.
Speaker 3: Anyone who's been to Dillingham.
Speaker 2: Knows Cnbar, So he said he was in there. This
Speaker 2: was like a day after and it just opened, so
Speaker 2: there was only like maybe two people in there. But
Speaker 2: he saw an older Native guy and he doesn't remember
Speaker 2: the guy's name, but he went over to him and
Speaker 2: asked him, Hey, you ever hear anything weird about the
Speaker 2: Snake River. Here's what happened to us, and lays it
Speaker 2: out and he said the old Native guy just chuckled
Speaker 2: at him and just went on about his business, didn't
Speaker 2: even really, outside of chuckling at him, give any acknowledgment
Speaker 2: to what anything. Corey said, I told him that's not uncommon.
Speaker 2: He thought the old guy was rude, which is fair enough.
Speaker 2: He was just looking for some info, but hey, it
Speaker 2: is what it is in a small town. I want
Speaker 2: to thank Corey for sharing. For people that go out
Speaker 2: there wanting an encounter, you got to be careful what
Speaker 2: you wish for, because things happen, man, and the shock
Speaker 2: to the system is just it's not what you think
Speaker 2: it's going to be. It's not a Patterson Gimlin moment.
Speaker 2: A lot of times, it's real quick and it's startling,
Speaker 2: and it's for a lot of people life changing. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna thank Corey for reaching out and I appreciate you
Speaker 2: guys' patience. On that, we'll cut you on the next one.
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