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<v Speaker 1>Weird things happened in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Weird, weird, weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Good evening. Okay, that was not actually yeah, yeah, of

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<v Speaker 1>course I say one I said, Yeah, definitely, I say

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<v Speaker 1>one word. I'm already critiqued, but two words. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>What about if we switch accents?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, and American. That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>You're doing American?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's hear it. Sure, yeah, I would love to.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good if I do say so myself. Not bad,

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<v Speaker 2>not bad, go ahead and try it again, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's give it another go.

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<v Speaker 1>And you see that's what al was saying. I sound

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, what's that dude's name from the from

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<v Speaker 1>the Thornberry's Nigel?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Tim Curry?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Way, I didn't know Nigel Thornberry. That's Tim Curry.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, baby, oh yeah, doctor Frank and Ferd himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Penny wise.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we have a very special episode tonight. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I say that every time I have a guest,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's because it's true. And we are joined by

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<v Speaker 1>a very good friend of mine all the way from

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<v Speaker 1>you guys live in Yorkshire, Yorkshire, England. And before I

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<v Speaker 1>go into all that, I would like to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how we met each other because I think it's very insane.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're joined tonight by Aaron Hello, very very talented

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<v Speaker 1>musical prodigy. More on that later. So yeah, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>go into that. So we had been following each other

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<v Speaker 1>for a few years, right, I feel like it was

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<v Speaker 1>probably twenty twenty three something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably, Yeah, yeah, I'd may not have heard about you

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<v Speaker 3>guys before, but I didn't, like, I didn't realize everyone

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<v Speaker 3>was on social media and stuff because I rarely go

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<v Speaker 3>on it these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Anyway, so it's been a few years that we

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<v Speaker 1>had been following each other, and I had always been

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<v Speaker 1>aware of I want to say I had heard of

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<v Speaker 1>Black Tongue before. I'm not sure. I mean, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing where you're exposed to so many

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<v Speaker 1>bands you can't remember what at some points you do

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<v Speaker 1>know and you don't know. But definitely the fabled Infant

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<v Speaker 1>Annihilator and he had followed me, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I like how a conneption followed you back?

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like it was probably a year two

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<v Speaker 1>years before we got a talking And this is the

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<v Speaker 1>part that I wanted to get into. So we met

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<v Speaker 1>and we became fast friends because we had similar things

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<v Speaker 1>in common, namely like, uh, you could say studies and

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<v Speaker 1>consciousness Monroe Institute. You know, you guys had been seeing

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<v Speaker 1>orbs and things like that. And anyway, like long story short,

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<v Speaker 1>us kind of being aware of each other for years

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<v Speaker 1>and then coming into each other's sphere. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>can all pretty much agree that it was meant to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we are finding ourselves with you staying with

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<v Speaker 1>me in America for like basically two weeks, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>having a blast. So good times. Welcome to the show, hie,

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<v Speaker 1>happy to be here. Yeah, it's it's honestly insane.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah. And we also just had a mind blowingly

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<v Speaker 2>delicious Sunday dinner and and English Sunday dinner. Okay, man

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<v Speaker 2>a tea time.

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<v Speaker 3>Tea yeah, tea, not a cup of tea.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a cup of tea. We had a whole lesson downstairs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we got a lesson. You have tea all day? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you have tea all day in a cup in a

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<v Speaker 2>cup you, I should say, rather, and I apologize. You

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<v Speaker 2>drink tea all day, yes, but you have tea once

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<v Speaker 2>a day and that's what we called dinner. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>how about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I always thought that tea time was like

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<v Speaker 1>one o'clock you have a cup of tea, but tea

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<v Speaker 1>means you beat dinner, so anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny. I always looked at it like

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<v Speaker 2>a siesta, you know how, like in Spain and Mexico

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<v Speaker 2>and like have a little siesta. Like yeah, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>like tea time was like, all right, we just had

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<v Speaker 2>our lunch. Let's go like have a cup of tea

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<v Speaker 2>and sit for fifteen minutes and drink and talk and

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<v Speaker 2>then we'll get back to whatever we were doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear that's how it is on TV. Man, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much misconceptions there. But yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we have a lot that we could get into.

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<v Speaker 1>There's many pathways of conversation here, so yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just talk about like some of the similar I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you could say, like meditative experiences that we've had,

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<v Speaker 1>because those like the first time we talked and then

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<v Speaker 1>the following times after that, I feel like every time

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<v Speaker 1>we picked each other's brains. And with Helen, who's with

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<v Speaker 1>us in the studio tonight, we're finding more and more

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<v Speaker 1>and more that we're having similar experiences even before we

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<v Speaker 1>met each other. Are you cool talking about that one?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, No, I'm jing off limit.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you know this one yet about what

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<v Speaker 1>we were going to talk about. But do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about? Like the download you had about

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<v Speaker 1>like shit, yeah, yeah, that one and here you are,

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<v Speaker 1>like we manifested it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just like basically do you wanna?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I mean I can't remember, so it was definitely

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<v Speaker 3>before we started talking, and I was doing one of

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<v Speaker 3>the Monroe meditation things. I can't remember which one it was,

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<v Speaker 3>but basically I had like a big flash download and

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<v Speaker 3>basically long story shot involved coming to America, meeting you,

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<v Speaker 3>doing a Monro rich and separately also my one of

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<v Speaker 3>my best friends and vocalists Alex from Black Tongue. He

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<v Speaker 3>was in the kind of download and he went to

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<v Speaker 3>go and like marry his long term, long distance relationship partner,

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<v Speaker 3>which and all of those things have happened, although separately.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa in Arizona?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Yeah? Was this before you guys ever started talking

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<v Speaker 2>in at all? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>This was years ago, wow, two years ago? He had

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<v Speaker 1>a he had kind of like a vision or down

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<v Speaker 1>the prim about like I need, not need, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I should go to America and somehow don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>the guy go through some sort of meditation program with Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me that, like last night, really you just found.

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<v Speaker 3>I still got a note on my phone that I

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<v Speaker 3>wrote after the meditation.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, do you typically do that when

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<v Speaker 2>you do meditation, take notes and stuff afterwards. I need

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<v Speaker 2>to get into doing that, like taking notes of what

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<v Speaker 2>you know. We did it during the creation state creations. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was awesome and profound, and it helped me remember

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<v Speaker 2>those things and then like going back and reading them later,

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<v Speaker 2>you can like almost kind of like feel the same

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<v Speaker 2>feelings that you were feeling during the moment. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>really valuable. It's just I'm not good at keeping up

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<v Speaker 2>with habits. I'm not either not good ones at least.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's almost like a totem, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>when you write the notes, it creates this anchor point

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<v Speaker 1>to where when you read them at some time in

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<v Speaker 1>the future you can kind of better recall everything that

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<v Speaker 1>happened around them, which I guess is why we should

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<v Speaker 1>journal dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, another thing that I've always wanted to do, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>journal dreams.

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<v Speaker 3>I always tried to get into the habit of it,

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<v Speaker 3>but then like after maybe like two days, I'll forget

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<v Speaker 3>to do it, and then the next day I'll forget,

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<v Speaker 3>and then by the time I realize, I'm like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, Like they say, if you keep like a dream journal,

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<v Speaker 2>it's supposed to like promote more vivid dreams, You'll start

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<v Speaker 2>having more vivid dreams, more dreams. Lucid dreams was the

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<v Speaker 2>other big one because I have I've had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of sleeper analysis in my life, and it sometimes when

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<v Speaker 2>I was a kid, it would turn into lucid dreams. Sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I'm talking like I would like like at

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<v Speaker 2>least once a month every month for I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>ten or fifteen years, I would have sleep paralysis. But

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of yeah, like maybe I don't know, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>or thirty percent of the time it would just like

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<v Speaker 2>naturally turn into a lucid dream. And it's been a

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<v Speaker 2>while so I've considered doing it. It's just the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do it one night or the second night, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I missed one night and it's over.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just reminded me of something actually, before I started

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<v Speaker 3>to get into all of this like consciousness he stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like a super like hardcore like scientism.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's a great way to describe it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, yeah, just like skeptic, but without actually being what

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<v Speaker 3>the term skepticism means, just being basically ignorant anyway. But

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<v Speaker 3>so it was during that time, I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>probably about twenty or something, and I'd read about I

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<v Speaker 3>can't I think astral projection, but it was before I

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<v Speaker 3>found out about moder or anything, and I remember finding

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<v Speaker 3>like a forum thread or something and it just basically said,

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<v Speaker 3>you have the best way to do it is to

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<v Speaker 3>try to purposefully induce sleep paralysis. So I remember for

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<v Speaker 3>a period of about a week I was trying to

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<v Speaker 3>do that, and then the one night that it finally worked,

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<v Speaker 3>the sleep paralysis part worked, I was like, why the

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<v Speaker 3>fuck have.

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<v Speaker 1>I done this?

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<v Speaker 2>This is horriful.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you've done this.

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<v Speaker 3>And that just put me off for well until this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is that the first time you had had sleep paralysis? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Because yeah, it's terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I've had it like twice and that's not to have.

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<v Speaker 2>It like when we would have sleepovers and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I would literally i'd be like playing Xbox. Because you

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<v Speaker 1>guys know me by now. I'm not a morning person.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys have spent like the last what two mornings

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<v Speaker 1>with me. I'm always the last one downstairs usually. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just I'm always up late. My brain doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to slow down. I didn't know I had ADHD

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid, and I was just like I'd just

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<v Speaker 1>be wide awake. He'd be falling asleep and I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be awake for a while sitting there playing Xbox.

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<v Speaker 1>And there have been many nights at my house's children

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<v Speaker 1>that he would be like either asleep on my floor

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<v Speaker 1>because he passed out, or he's like a sleep on

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<v Speaker 1>my bed and I'm in my chair or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd look over and he'd be on the floor

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<v Speaker 1>like wigging out and he would like wake up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>The craziest sleep prophs is. So I'm like, yeah, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching you twitching like it happened many times.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's not exaggerating, like I've seen it with my

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<v Speaker 1>own eyes, Like this kid was plagued. Yeah, that is

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that I had to put on the line

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<v Speaker 1>with my own life. I would say that he's telling

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<v Speaker 1>the truth about sleep probleses.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's happened quite a few times, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's thankfully. I'm so happy it's been like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even tell you the last time I had it. Yeah, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>at this point now it's been at very bare minimum,

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Good at least. But it came in all

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<v Speaker 2>different flavors, Like sometimes it would be like i'd be actually,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, this is y'all will think this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>The first time I ever had sleep paralysis, this is wild.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember in Oh God, let me oh, Two Towers

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<v Speaker 2>in Two Towers when fro I do of course, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And Helen do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Aaron Alex,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you remember in Two Towers when Frodo falls into

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<v Speaker 2>So the first time I ever had sleep paralysis, I

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know ten or something, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>else's house. I'm gonna sleep in his bio. That'll show, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>exactly like stupid. I fell asleep in his room in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the day and I had sleep paralysis.

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<v Speaker 2>My eyes opened. I thought, I see the entire room

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<v Speaker 2>around me, the exact room my brother's room, and it's normal.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I can't move. And as soon as I

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<v Speaker 2>started materializing in the room, those those green things but

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<v Speaker 2>they were in the movie. Yeah wow, But they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>looking at me. They were they were just floating around.

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<v Speaker 2>And then all at once they all looked at me

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<v Speaker 2>and they started coming towards me. And when one of

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<v Speaker 2>them got kind of close, you remember, like one of

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<v Speaker 2>them's reaching their hand out and then you pull froto out.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, that's terrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really scary. But that was literally just the first. No,

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<v Speaker 2>that might have been the second or third time, but anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Oh, speaking of like spooky power normal Lord of

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<v Speaker 3>the Rings themed things, Helen had a NDE that involved

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<v Speaker 2>What huh. We might have to get you on the mic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're gonna have to make something happen here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that sounds super interesting. I need to hear that.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you hear Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So when I was sixteen, I fractured my skull and

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<v Speaker 5>oh god, I was for some reason, I was out

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows that.

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<v Speaker 5>We sat on the top of my mate's car. My

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<v Speaker 5>on top of the car. And then he like just

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<v Speaker 5>started driving like a joke. Yeah, it's a joke, like

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<v Speaker 5>really tight turn. So then I ended up flying off

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<v Speaker 5>the top of the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh holy that's traumatic.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And then like the only thing that I can

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<v Speaker 5>remember from that is my nose hurting because I was

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<v Speaker 5>told that my brain it shook that much. But obviously

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<v Speaker 5>fuckingca what that's And like I remember consciously going why

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<v Speaker 5>the fucking probably.

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<v Speaker 5>My mom my, Jesus, someone saying you're not ready, You've

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<v Speaker 5>why the fucking.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way. Alex Urukai are like probably the scariest things.

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<v Speaker 1>They are these thick and the shields abroad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, you know, they grow them.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, if you could of the rings fun you've

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<v Speaker 5>got tough, fucking the end of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude. Whoa, that is absolutely insane. Yeah, Alex, for context, uricay,

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<v Speaker 2>they've got to be like some of the most disgusting

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<v Speaker 2>looking creatures that you could imagine. They grow them in

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<v Speaker 2>like sacks in the ground and like like placentas, and

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<v Speaker 2>they like peel them out of them and they come

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<v Speaker 2>out and they look all slimy, and they're like mud demons.

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<v Speaker 1>They're snarling savages. Dude, They're horrific, hulking savages. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine seeing that in an indie. I think that tops

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<v Speaker 1>your sleep. Proud she died, and it's like, who am

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<v Speaker 1>I going to see in the on the other side?

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<v Speaker 1>Who got back into the realm of the living?

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<v Speaker 2>It's an Urica.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like, yeah, that's terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>So Alex, I hope, I hope. At this point, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no there's just no greater way that we could go

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<v Speaker 1>to the farthest reaches of the earth to convince you

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<v Speaker 1>to watch this freaking movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the last I'm gonna say about that. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry you went through that. That that sounds horrific,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, the more that I spend with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we've probably had three or four like really

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<v Speaker 1>long phone calls throughout the last I don't know when

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<v Speaker 1>we first met, maybe like September October. It hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>quite a year, but it's been a long time by

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<v Speaker 1>this point. And now I've spent the last few days

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<v Speaker 1>with you guys, and the more I see altogether, I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all definitely were meant to meet. I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>very obvious that, you know, how can I say this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we were talking about this today, that there's

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<v Speaker 1>some things that happen in your life where you're like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that was just that there's no possible way that you

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<v Speaker 1>could describe this having happened without destiny being real or

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<v Speaker 1>fate or us living in a matrix or it being

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<v Speaker 1>a hologram or or a simulation or whatever. And I just, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it. And that's the same with us being

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<v Speaker 1>friends too, Like there's there's so many things that are

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<v Speaker 1>unfolding and us doing them in a row program. But anyway, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's just.

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<v Speaker 3>That's some synchronicity on steroids.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I'm struggling to find the words because the

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<v Speaker 1>people at home listening, They're like, Okay, we have no

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<v Speaker 1>clue what you're talking about, but like every time we

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<v Speaker 1>talk there's just more than like we have so many

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<v Speaker 1>things in common. It's like, really, it's weird, like like

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<v Speaker 1>the same visions during meditation even well like almost indicating that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was it wasn't even the same vision. It was

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<v Speaker 3>like the same space but different perspective, different perspectives, and

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<v Speaker 3>then each one of you was seeing the other person

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<v Speaker 3>but as like an all bar, like a glowing being

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<v Speaker 3>or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exist, and we didn't even know each other. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's weird, like like obviously we were all meant

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<v Speaker 4>This was.

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<v Speaker 5>So this was in the Gateway program, specifically Focused fifteen,

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<v Speaker 5>where in our first video call like face time and

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and just reading like experiences we had, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>we had one that was anyway go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>So I remember Focus fifteen being absolutely tastes like but

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<v Speaker 5>you know that was when just it's no time essentially,

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<v Speaker 5>and even before I did the meditation, like put the

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<v Speaker 5>headphones in that I could see a projection like directly

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<v Speaker 5>in front of me and so I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>no time. So I thought, right, I've just done away.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't see the meditation. I'm just going to chill

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<v Speaker 5>in the bathroom. I'm going off on a tangent that

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<v Speaker 5>a bit. I'm really sorry. But the main thing that

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to say was because there was loads of

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<v Speaker 5>different things that happened, but the men thing that meaning

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<v Speaker 5>Ryan shed together, as I say, completely.

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<v Speaker 1>Two years apart, two yeah, years apart, not knowing each.

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<v Speaker 5>Other yet not not each and all that I remember

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<v Speaker 5>was seeing I was in a pyramid, you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>the Egyptian sort of drawings on the wall. I was, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>hieroglyphics walking through, and then directly in front of me

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<v Speaker 5>there was this room that had a sarcophagus in it,

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<v Speaker 5>and the whole I remember the theme of Focus fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>specifically mind was rituals.

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<v Speaker 4>In pyramids, and so yeah, and I could see.

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<v Speaker 5>Like an orb as well, yeah, in the sarcophagus and yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>an an orb and a sarcophagus, and yeah. That that

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<v Speaker 5>was the main thing that I can remember from the meditation,

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<v Speaker 5>because more.

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<v Speaker 3>In the notes isn't but.

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<v Speaker 1>You saw something about it didn't you see like an

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<v Speaker 1>anc of some sort like the symbol or yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, yeah yeah ye, but yeah, yeah, there was zanks.

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<v Speaker 5>There was all all sorts of shape. I wish I

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<v Speaker 5>could go into property detail.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the main thing because that's like the part

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<v Speaker 1>of Yeah, that's the premise of it. That's like the

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<v Speaker 1>meat of it. And then so the first time we

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<v Speaker 1>actually got on the phone, and I'm glad that we

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<v Speaker 1>got into this too, because when we started the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>little context that I was kind of trying my brain

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00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:14.559
<v Speaker 1>was like where do I go with this to bring

426
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<v Speaker 1>you know, the listener and you guys in on like

427
00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:19.160
<v Speaker 1>this stuff that y'all hadn't heard about yet, and it's

428
00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:22.519
<v Speaker 1>all kind of heading somewhere right. But anyway, so the

429
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<v Speaker 1>first time we got on the phone, Aaron and I

430
00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:28.640
<v Speaker 1>had been following each other already, don't you remember, like

431
00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:30.720
<v Speaker 1>two years ago. I was like, oh, we shuit was

432
00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:34.079
<v Speaker 1>an annihilator drum a drummer followed me. That's so crazy,

433
00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:36.359
<v Speaker 1>And we were like laughing about in the apartment yeah yeah,

434
00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:38.880
<v Speaker 1>and we were like, wow, this is wild. Yeah, and

435
00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:41.559
<v Speaker 1>in my you know, and as you know erin there's

436
00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:43.839
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times where you know, you're out in

437
00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:46.599
<v Speaker 1>the public, maybe someone follows you and you're showing your

438
00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:48.519
<v Speaker 1>boys like oh wow, that's crazy, and then your life

439
00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:50.319
<v Speaker 1>is busy and you're like, ah, they probably would never

440
00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:52.640
<v Speaker 1>see my message or whatever, and you're like, maybe our

441
00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:54.279
<v Speaker 1>pads were crossed. It was kind of like that, you

442
00:23:54.319 --> 00:23:55.920
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like I didn't message you didn't

443
00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:57.759
<v Speaker 1>message me, but I was like, damn, this is really cool,

444
00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and so you had kind of been at least in

445
00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:05.359
<v Speaker 1>the back of my mind for a while, right. So anyway,

446
00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>so Helen reaches out to me, and I was like, oh, interesting,

447
00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:14.319
<v Speaker 1>and I somehow I guess through Instagram put two and

448
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:16.440
<v Speaker 1>two together that like they were I think actually in

449
00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:18.799
<v Speaker 1>your message you told me that you were his girlfriend

450
00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:20.839
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, or it was out on your profile. It

451
00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:22.839
<v Speaker 1>was something I just I knew that you guys were together,

452
00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Okay, he's following me, she's reaching

453
00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:28.759
<v Speaker 1>out to me. These people are tapped in, you know,

454
00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:30.839
<v Speaker 1>they're obviously really into this stuff. So I was like, well,

455
00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:32.680
<v Speaker 1>let's set up a phone call. We did, and it

456
00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:35.359
<v Speaker 1>was like boom. We started sharing these Monroe stories, and

457
00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:38.279
<v Speaker 1>we all collectively were like, yeah, we're friends now, you

458
00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:40.640
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And then we immediately started scheming,

459
00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>all right, how are we going to get you to America?

460
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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. It's been almost a year

461
00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:47.480
<v Speaker 1>that we've been talking about this trip, right, and then

462
00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:49.599
<v Speaker 1>even what's happened on the trip so far, it's been crazy,

463
00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, really weird but really weird. Yeah, So where

464
00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>was I going with? Oh? Yeah, our experience? So you

465
00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:58.039
<v Speaker 1>told me? I think I told you the experience first

466
00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:01.160
<v Speaker 1>because I had just gotten back from Gateway. I feel yeah,

467
00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:10.839
<v Speaker 1>it was just after you yeah, sawyall the episode. He was, yeah, okay,

468
00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:12.119
<v Speaker 1>it was around October November.

469
00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:19.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and we saw your Gateway specific episodes and then

470
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:23.319
<v Speaker 5>obviously when you was describing Focus fifteen when we was

471
00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:27.319
<v Speaker 5>watching it at home, and then I just turned half

472
00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:27.519
<v Speaker 5>and I.

473
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Were just like, yeah, ship.

474
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<v Speaker 2>That is wild, yes, and essentially the same Oh.

475
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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get into that. Yeah.

476
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

477
00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:47.559
<v Speaker 1>So then so we met, right, they and I'm sure

478
00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:49.200
<v Speaker 1>you heard me tell that story on the show, because

479
00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:52.559
<v Speaker 1>I did tell it right, that very story. But I think, okay,

480
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:54.680
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's I'm starting to remember a little more

481
00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I think we brought it up and you were like,

482
00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I had the same thing. So in my experience, it's

483
00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:01.680
<v Speaker 1>like I was lame in the sarcophagus. I told it

484
00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:04.799
<v Speaker 1>on I think Allan's episode, and I told it on

485
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:07.440
<v Speaker 1>probably Archie or Emily's, and then I told it on

486
00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>three part series. But I had this experience in focus

487
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:13.759
<v Speaker 1>at fifteen where I was just like, and it's very vivid,

488
00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:16.279
<v Speaker 1>this experience. I'm laying in the sarcophagus, i have my

489
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>arms up like Osiris, and I'm I remember, yeah, and

490
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:21.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like inherently understanding that I'm not dying, I'm

491
00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:24.880
<v Speaker 1>not being buried. It's a ritual. There's people standing around me,

492
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:27.599
<v Speaker 1>and at the foot of the sarcophagus there's like a

493
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.119
<v Speaker 1>glowing being of light. And it was like giving me instructions.

494
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:32.160
<v Speaker 1>And she told me her story, so she basically had

495
00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:34.920
<v Speaker 1>the same thing, except she wasn't laying in it. She

496
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:37.079
<v Speaker 1>was looking in the sarcophagus and there was an orb

497
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:40.079
<v Speaker 1>in the sarcophagus. So we're like, what the hell, it's

498
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:44.119
<v Speaker 1>the same thing, and it's very specific. I've I mean,

499
00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:47.519
<v Speaker 1>I've never met anybody else that had even i mean

500
00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:51.440
<v Speaker 1>not everybody's just like having Egyptian visions. Yeah, everyone's having

501
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:54.359
<v Speaker 1>different things, you know, and maybe they are having Egyptian visions.

502
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:56.839
<v Speaker 1>But you're the only person I've met that had that

503
00:26:57.079 --> 00:26:59.640
<v Speaker 1>very same one, you know. So we were like, Okay,

504
00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:03.839
<v Speaker 1>this is really weird. Obviously we're connected somehow, and there

505
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:05.519
<v Speaker 1>was an experience you had. I don't know if you

506
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>can recall what I'm talking about, but one that you

507
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:09.720
<v Speaker 1>told me that you had that I was just like,

508
00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:12.799
<v Speaker 1>this is freaking insane. So fast forward a few months,

509
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:16.200
<v Speaker 1>we get to talking and we're just like, all right,

510
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, we got through the holidays, Christmas past, and

511
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:20.799
<v Speaker 1>we got to talking again, and it's like, we got

512
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:23.039
<v Speaker 1>a plan an America trip maybe in March. Remember we

513
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>were like maybe in the spring. Yeah, you know, And

514
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:29.799
<v Speaker 1>I think we talked in the spring and one thing

515
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>led to another, and you guys found out I was

516
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:34.440
<v Speaker 1>doing guidelines. I get I told you guys like I

517
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:37.160
<v Speaker 1>just booked guidelines and you asked us as.

518
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:39.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's how it was. Yeah, you was like, oh,

519
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:41.920
<v Speaker 3>if you was going to do another Monroe cost, not

520
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:43.799
<v Speaker 3>even thinking about us coming. We was just asking us

521
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:45.759
<v Speaker 3>which Monroe cost. We would just want to do.

522
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like what are you guys interested?

523
00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 3>And we were both like hmm and Hell was like, oh,

524
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:52.440
<v Speaker 3>maybe guidelines and you were like, oh shit, I'm doing guidelines.

525
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Just bund it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

526
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.519
<v Speaker 3>And then we were like what it is sick.

527
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:01.759
<v Speaker 1>So they were like, are there any open slots? I

528
00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:03.759
<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't know. I pulled up I pulled

529
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>up the website and I was like, guys, it says

530
00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:08.559
<v Speaker 1>there's two. Aaron pulled out his phone. He's like, boop,

531
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I just booked it. And I was like, all right, well,

532
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:12.119
<v Speaker 1>let's just get on the phone in a couple of

533
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>weeks and we'll figure out flights. It was, It's just

534
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:19.039
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what happened, and here we are, so yeah,

535
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.759
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was crazy. So long story short, they

536
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:25.799
<v Speaker 1>are they flew in from England, staying with me about

537
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:27.920
<v Speaker 1>ten days or something like that, and you know, we're

538
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:30.519
<v Speaker 1>going to do that program virtually from my house. So

539
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:32.079
<v Speaker 1>the three of us are going to be cabin fever.

540
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it starts tomorrow Saturday. Okay, cool?

541
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah wow, so interesting man. And yeah, so I'd like

542
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:45.759
<v Speaker 1>to maybe pivot a little bit into the musical side

543
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:47.359
<v Speaker 1>of things, because I don't think that we could have

544
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>you on the show and it'd be a very valuable

545
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.559
<v Speaker 1>use of our time or like respectful to your craft.

546
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:57.359
<v Speaker 1>If we just don't even acknowledge Infinite Nihilator, it.

547
00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:58.200
<v Speaker 3>Would have been kind of funny.

548
00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:00.519
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, oh well hey, I mean, you know,

549
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say that, like it's so crazy, man,

550
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>because really I've been aware of you guys since twenty sixteen.

551
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't feel like you probably, oh for sure.

552
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's like the second album kind of era.

553
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's it's just always been this its own thing,

554
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:20.319
<v Speaker 1>you know. It's it's very extreme music, which I like

555
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:22.960
<v Speaker 1>extreme music. And I'll never forget the first time I

556
00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:27.119
<v Speaker 1>heard the first song from you guys that I had

557
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>heard Soil is Stillborn. I'm like, what, dude, why does

558
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.599
<v Speaker 1>this sound so good? But it's just it's so shocking.

559
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, despite what anybody thinks, you guys stand out.

560
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>You guys literally are set apart from other bands. You're

561
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:44.720
<v Speaker 1>like this crazy phenomenon. So I guess, I guess I'm

562
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:47.519
<v Speaker 1>just kind of curious, like about how you got into

563
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, Like what was your path, what were you

564
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:52.519
<v Speaker 1>doing before? What propelled you to get into making such

565
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.519
<v Speaker 1>like crazy extreme music.

566
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:58.160
<v Speaker 3>Dude, how far back we talking?

567
00:29:58.799 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how far back you want to?

568
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Let's start right to the beginning.

569
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:08.400
<v Speaker 3>I think the most relevant thing probably would be I

570
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 3>remember when, because I was like fifteen when like death

571
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:17.119
<v Speaker 3>Call started to kick off, you know, like MySpace death Call. Yeah,

572
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.319
<v Speaker 3>like like Eisen and all that kind of stuff.

573
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Their guitarists just recently followed me bring me the Horizon

574
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>a cinema message. You didn't respond. I'm like, well, this

575
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>is why I don't send messages. When people follow me,

576
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:34.799
<v Speaker 1>they don't always respond. So yeah, yeah, hey, I'm sorry.

577
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:36.039
<v Speaker 1>I know I just asked you a question, but I

578
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>have to say if it makes you feel better, if

579
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it makes you feel special, Helen. I'm not gonna say who,

580
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>just in case they are the kind of people that

581
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.359
<v Speaker 1>aren't comfortable with it. But an NFL player followed me

582
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:49.359
<v Speaker 1>and his girlfriend also messaged me, and she was like,

583
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>we're really into your show, so like you you're you're

584
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>a part of a very niche, valuable thing.

585
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:58.480
<v Speaker 4>So I'm Avan's life.

586
00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:02.920
<v Speaker 5>That's mean, But that doesn't mean i'll message your back, so.

587
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:06.599
<v Speaker 3>You know, please don't message.

588
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:17.119
<v Speaker 4>Oh shit, I don't want to.

589
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.119
<v Speaker 1>You're fine, it's all good. So anyway, just you know,

590
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:22.799
<v Speaker 1>thank you if it was. If it wasn't for you,

591
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I we may not have ever met because we're both

592
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:27.279
<v Speaker 1>probably similar and it's like, you know, people are busy whatever.

593
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so back when you were fifteen, death course

594
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:32.759
<v Speaker 1>starts popping off. You're going to bring me the horizon.

595
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:36.720
<v Speaker 3>So I remember not with not so much with bring

596
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:38.240
<v Speaker 3>me their eyes and to be honest, but like a

597
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:41.799
<v Speaker 3>lot of bands that were like getting bigger and like

598
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.119
<v Speaker 3>popping off and stuff. One thing that would just always

599
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 3>really annoy me is like the kind of lighter melody

600
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of rifts. Like there's some bands that could pull

601
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:50.880
<v Speaker 3>it off and stuff, but that was like when I

602
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:54.200
<v Speaker 3>was super gatekeepery with like everything has to just be

603
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 3>as heavy as possible, like fu a riff, let's just

604
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:00.400
<v Speaker 3>do a breakdown kind of vibe. And so yeah, I

605
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.279
<v Speaker 3>remember like back then, I always wanted music to just

606
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:07.720
<v Speaker 3>be way heavier than it was. So I just started

607
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.599
<v Speaker 3>like making music that was solely breakdowns. Basically. I mean,

608
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:13.200
<v Speaker 3>it sucks now listening back to it, but that's when

609
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 3>I first started like writing music and like recording and stuff.

610
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.559
<v Speaker 3>I remember the first thing I recorded was literally using

611
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:23.480
<v Speaker 3>an electric acoustic guitar. No, yeah, it's really bad. Wow.

612
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.799
<v Speaker 2>No, wow, that's incredible.

613
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.119
<v Speaker 3>Actually through like a boss metal pedal or something. It

614
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.640
<v Speaker 3>was really right. I had one of those Yeah, did

615
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 3>you like detune the mess out of it? That it

616
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.079
<v Speaker 3>probably wasn't even tuned. I can't remember, to be.

617
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Honest, Fifteen year olds don't care about that crap.

618
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:44.400
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I mean that that's like sets the stage

619
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:46.279
<v Speaker 3>for it. But then, like ever since then, I've always

620
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.160
<v Speaker 3>like wanted whatever band I'm in at the time, I've

621
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:52.680
<v Speaker 3>always like pushed it to like be less melodic and

622
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:56.680
<v Speaker 3>more heavy. I've grown a bit now, matured a bit

623
00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:59.119
<v Speaker 3>since then, but yeah, I've always wanted to like just

624
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:03.000
<v Speaker 3>do the most ex stream heavy music. But just my

625
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:05.720
<v Speaker 3>kind of definition of heavy is like evolved over the years.

626
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:10.599
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, the goalpost keeps moving. It's true because like, well,

627
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:14.359
<v Speaker 2>people like you, like you know, bands like Infinite Nihilator

628
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:18.240
<v Speaker 2>come out and they pushed the envelope for what heavy is. Yeah,

629
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 2>and then they just set a new standard and then

630
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.119
<v Speaker 2>you're like, Okay, well, now I wonder if we could

631
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 2>get a little heavier maybe, And then and then it's

632
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:27.680
<v Speaker 2>just it just keeps getting pushed and pushed and pushed,

633
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 2>and like, true, there are there are steps along the

634
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:33.960
<v Speaker 2>way where you're like, surely it can't get heavier than this, right,

635
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:36.599
<v Speaker 2>We've thought so, right, Yeah, it's like we've we've reached

636
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:39.119
<v Speaker 2>the pinnacle, right, like, surely we've reached the and.

637
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:42.119
<v Speaker 1>It just keeps going. I honestly thought so it never ends.

638
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>And look, I promise you, Okay, I'm just gonna say this.

639
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I I told you this last night. Nick was obviously

640
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>freaking out. You saw his live reaction. Alex doesn't even

641
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:58.799
<v Speaker 1>necessarily feel passion towards this music, even he could recognize

642
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:01.599
<v Speaker 1>how good. And I'll keep it very brief, but I

643
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:04.319
<v Speaker 1>will say that we have now listened to what five

644
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>of the tracks of the new album, And I'm not

645
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>blowing you smoke. I'm being very genuine when I say this.

646
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:17.199
<v Speaker 1>It is some of the best metal music I've ever heard. Like,

647
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:19.920
<v Speaker 1>it's it's exciting. How good that shit is. I'm not

648
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>just saying that, it's crazy, it's amazing.

649
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:25.360
<v Speaker 2>And you know it's like he's like, yeah, it's not

650
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:29.159
<v Speaker 2>really done yet. I'm like what, yeah, well, what like

651
00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:33.320
<v Speaker 2>what what do you it's it is crazy good, crazy good.

652
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's shockingly good. So congratulations to you. Maybe when

653
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>it's out we could do a follow up. We had

654
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:43.280
<v Speaker 1>already kind of talked about that today at lunch, but yeah,

655
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I would I would love to next time, because obviously

656
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not out yet, so people will just have to

657
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:50.280
<v Speaker 1>wait and see, but I would love to when that

658
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:52.519
<v Speaker 1>comes out. We do like a deeper dive, you know

659
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:56.039
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So I'm very excited to hear the

660
00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:59.039
<v Speaker 1>rest of it. It's it's unbelievable. The kid in me

661
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:02.199
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure that in you never thought that we

662
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>would have the privilege to like sit here with people

663
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>like this and get to do this.

664
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.760
<v Speaker 2>This was like yeah, yeah, I mean I've always dreamed

665
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:13.400
<v Speaker 2>about like geeking about metal music with people who make

666
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>metal music, and oh my god, that is like the bonus.

667
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:21.840
<v Speaker 2>That's the bonus of all bonuses. We've been just like

668
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>making Lord of the Rings references and quotes and stuff,

669
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:28.320
<v Speaker 2>and like my heart is so full. Uh but yeah,

670
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:31.599
<v Speaker 2>it was so like within like seriously, probably five minutes

671
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>of meeting you guys yesterday, I was like, these are

672
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.239
<v Speaker 2>these are peoplest people? Yeah? Yeah, I was like these

673
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:40.280
<v Speaker 2>are the coolest people ever. Likewise, yeah, like, but yeah, no,

674
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:43.760
<v Speaker 2>I always dreamed about like just sitting doing this, sitting

675
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.920
<v Speaker 2>in a room dressed exactly as we're dressed right now.

676
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:49.280
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean this is normal attire?

677
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I just mean, you know, casual attire.

678
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Don Mobler, the corn cobbler, thank you for here, joined

679
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:02.719
<v Speaker 1>by the exert and it and uh, I'm a sucking blood.

680
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:04.440
<v Speaker 1>He name count I'm a sucking blood.

681
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

682
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, person the Parsnip drainer, the Parsonip Liquor. I like that. Yeah,

683
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you are the Parsonip Liquor.

684
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:23.800
<v Speaker 2>I was liking a lot. They're so good. I'm going

685
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:28.320
<v Speaker 2>to parson Is where the bleep was.

686
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, But anyway, like in all seriousness, man, it's

687
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it doesn't go unnoticed by me. Just like

688
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 1>this experience of you guys coming here and I was

689
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 1>being friends. It's definitely a reality check for me sometimes

690
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:43.159
<v Speaker 1>these kinds of moments, like bro, the episode that came

691
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:45.639
<v Speaker 1>out today was freaking this guy from Dragon ball Z.

692
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Now we're sitting here, you know, with the drummer of

693
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:51.760
<v Speaker 1>iNFiNiT Annihilator, one of the most like notorious I say

694
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:53.599
<v Speaker 1>that in quotes people who listen to metal they know

695
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:56.320
<v Speaker 1>who that is one of the most freaking notorious bands

696
00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>in the entire death course scene. That is literally like

697
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 1>just a meme, Like.

698
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Was it always what is it? Was it always your

699
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 2>goal to like shock?

700
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:11.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, when we first started, we never even thought it

701
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:14.280
<v Speaker 3>would ever blow up or anything like that, because we

702
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.199
<v Speaker 3>wrote the first album just to have fun. Yeah, and

703
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:20.480
<v Speaker 3>just the shock value was kind of just for us,

704
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:22.119
<v Speaker 3>if you know what I mean, because we didn't think

705
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:23.199
<v Speaker 3>anyone would listen to it.

706
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:25.000
<v Speaker 2>That was just the fun part. Yeah.

707
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:27.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then it kind of did blow up with

708
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:32.159
<v Speaker 3>the first video, and then we were like, well, probably

709
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:35.920
<v Speaker 3>should just keep making it more and more extreme in

710
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:36.880
<v Speaker 3>every way possible.

711
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

712
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's funny, man. I will say the shock factor.

713
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:45.320
<v Speaker 1>And maybe it's because I've met you guys like at Monroe.

714
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>They like to say this concept of the blue paper clip.

715
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>You guys heard about that one.

716
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:49.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so.

717
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

718
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's just basically the principle that like, okay, blue

719
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:55.880
<v Speaker 1>paper clip. Now it's in your awareness, so you're gonna

720
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:57.599
<v Speaker 1>walk around and you're gonna see a lot of blue paper clips,

721
00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It's kind of like or like,

722
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:01.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, pink truck. Now you know about a pink truck,

723
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:03.119
<v Speaker 1>so soon you're going to see a pink truck. It's

724
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>like sort of what your awareness is locked in on.

725
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:09.039
<v Speaker 1>It'll be it'll come into your focus or you know,

726
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:13.039
<v Speaker 1>your little slice of reality more often. I don't know

727
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>if this is the case or if it's just because

728
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 1>there's a resurgence in Death Corp right now. I mean,

729
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Kimmel had on not Loues. I feel like they

730
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.199
<v Speaker 1>just a couple of days ago, right, Yeah, and you know,

731
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:26.599
<v Speaker 1>Gojira played at the Olympic. I genuinely feel that throughout

732
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the world, metal is just rising. It's just genuinely becoming

733
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:30.599
<v Speaker 1>more popular.

734
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:31.559
<v Speaker 2>You know it is.

735
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:35.159
<v Speaker 1>But in the last like six to eight months, I've

736
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>texted you guys, even a few of them. I've told

737
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:39.079
<v Speaker 1>you when it happens, or I've sent you maybe screenshots

738
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:41.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe not. But like I'll just be scrolling on the

739
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:45.400
<v Speaker 1>internet and I'm just seeing Infiniteihilator memes or even this, no,

740
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:49.480
<v Speaker 1>even this, I'll see you know, people covering the drums

741
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:56.119
<v Speaker 1>or freaking I'm doing this that means blastpeeding, yeah, yeah, yeah,

742
00:38:56.159 --> 00:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>for the for the viewer, but I'll be scrolling and

743
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:08.000
<v Speaker 1>freaking uh, you know, it'll be some random simply I'll

744
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:10.760
<v Speaker 1>be seeing some random song and I'll just drop down

745
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 1>the comments and it'll be like if an Anihilad or drummer,

746
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:17.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what the heck? Like, I just feel like

747
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:22.199
<v Speaker 1>it keeps coming into into my awareness, you know what

748
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:25.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean? And anyway, I believe you know, obviously we

749
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:27.719
<v Speaker 1>were meant to be friends, but I feel like you

750
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:29.519
<v Speaker 1>guys are definitely on the rise as far as like

751
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:33.559
<v Speaker 1>the internet death core culture goes. So anyway, I guess

752
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 1>to round out that thought is, yeah, you're going to

753
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:39.800
<v Speaker 1>This is just my prediction if I may, and it's

754
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:43.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm gonna be as a nondescript as possible,

755
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:45.639
<v Speaker 1>but I think you're gonna drop this album and it's

756
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a mic drop and you're gonna say bamn,

757
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:54.679
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker and people are gonna lose their minds how good

758
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>it is?

759
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Do you mind if I steal a lot phrase for the

760
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:02.920
<v Speaker 3>actual drop, just say nothing else the bad motherfucker? Yeah,

761
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 3>nothing else promotion Like there you go.

762
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:09.559
<v Speaker 1>Dude, I'm telling you people are going to lose their minds.

763
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:14.079
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's groundbreakings. It's fine, it's super super.

764
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Dope, it's epic.

765
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:20.480
<v Speaker 3>So anyway you started, you started win what ephan Yeah,

766
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:23.719
<v Speaker 3>I think we wrote we wrote the first well that's

767
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.599
<v Speaker 3>when we released the album. It was twelve twelve twelve.

768
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh cool numerology? Are you into that kind of stuff

769
00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:32.440
<v Speaker 2>back there? No?

770
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:34.400
<v Speaker 3>No, no, I was a super scoopa skeptic.

771
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know you said you were like the what

772
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:39.880
<v Speaker 2>do you call it? Scientist? Scientism, scientist? I like that.

773
00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:43.559
<v Speaker 2>So then not at all, not even were you aware

774
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:46.280
<v Speaker 2>of like numerology and that sort.

775
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:50.599
<v Speaker 3>Of only only to like mock, do you know what

776
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:50.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean?

777
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.880
<v Speaker 1>So this keeps coming up, like where are we at now?

778
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Because that's something that I'm curious about, and we had

779
00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:59.320
<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about this personally as friends, but you know,

780
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.199
<v Speaker 1>Nick and Alex haven't necessarily been exposed to this conversation.

781
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I personally find it very fascinating just to see your

782
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.480
<v Speaker 1>journey play out in real time and kind of like

783
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>know who you were then by what you're telling me

784
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and by reading your lyrics and then just knowing you

785
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>as a friend now, So like you weren't spiritual, you

786
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:16.400
<v Speaker 1>were more or less. I don't know if atheist is

787
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 1>the word you would describe, but you didn't believe there

788
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:22.119
<v Speaker 1>was anything. What was that thing that like pushed you

789
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.800
<v Speaker 1>towards kind of where you're at now, which is being

790
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:27.360
<v Speaker 1>in the consciousness. You're going to the Monroe Institute, you've

791
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:29.639
<v Speaker 1>seen orbs which I would love to hear some of

792
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:32.679
<v Speaker 1>your stories if you would like to share them, Like

793
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:35.920
<v Speaker 1>let's just talk about like your awakening journey.

794
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:36.119
<v Speaker 2>You know.

795
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.559
<v Speaker 3>I think it was a combination of things. I remember.

796
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:42.159
<v Speaker 3>I think it was so I didn't see it when

797
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:44.039
<v Speaker 3>it came out, but a big part of it was

798
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:45.519
<v Speaker 3>the whole New York Times.

799
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Thing twenty seventeen.

800
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Yes it wasn't then though, it was like a bit

801
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:51.440
<v Speaker 3>quite a bit after that. But I think that like

802
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:53.920
<v Speaker 3>popped up in my newsfeed or something. I think that

803
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:57.639
<v Speaker 3>might have been a catalyst because which New York Times,

804
00:41:57.679 --> 00:41:59.360
<v Speaker 3>the New York Times UFO, the.

805
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.199
<v Speaker 1>Tic TAC thing the first time they acknowledged UFO.

806
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Government That wasn't really a thing in the UK that

807
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:09.039
<v Speaker 3>didn't really get covered here. So I found out about

808
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:10.960
<v Speaker 3>that super late. I think it was like right at

809
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.000
<v Speaker 3>the beginning of COVID. Maybe that I found out about it,

810
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:16.039
<v Speaker 3>and I remember being like, because I had the same

811
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:18.079
<v Speaker 3>kind of view of like UFOs and stuff as that

812
00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:21.760
<v Speaker 3>I did with like like consciousness, he type meditation stuff,

813
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:25.039
<v Speaker 3>I was just like, where's the proof, saw bollocks, it's.

814
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Just non.

815
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:32.119
<v Speaker 3>So I remember coming across that and I was like,

816
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:34.400
<v Speaker 3>wait a second, is that like actually, I mean, I've

817
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:36.400
<v Speaker 3>got a bit of a different opinion on the guy now.

818
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:38.880
<v Speaker 3>But I was like this guy guy is like super

819
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:40.960
<v Speaker 3>official and he's like saying all this stuff. Because I

820
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:42.360
<v Speaker 3>was still at that point, I was like I need

821
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:44.400
<v Speaker 3>I need big daddy government to tell me that he's real.

822
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 2>So like government.

823
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:51.519
<v Speaker 3>So I was like, holy shit, this is like official

824
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:53.960
<v Speaker 3>guy like saying that this stuff's real. I was like,

825
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:56.000
<v Speaker 3>it's probably not, but I'll look into it. And then

826
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:57.480
<v Speaker 3>the more that I looked into it, the more I

827
00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:59.599
<v Speaker 3>was like, holy shit, like maybe it is. Like I

828
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.639
<v Speaker 3>didn't think, Okay, this is definitely real, but I was

829
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:05.519
<v Speaker 3>just like, well, I think the thing the thing that

830
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 3>changed in my brain was if I if I was

831
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:11.559
<v Speaker 3>like this wrong about UFOs, what else was this wrong about?

832
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:12.800
<v Speaker 3>So it kind of like in the back of my

833
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:17.599
<v Speaker 3>mind made me much more open to my aware of

834
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:21.239
<v Speaker 3>my immediate react like good like snap reactions to things,

835
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, because that's the kind of thing that happens

836
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:27.119
<v Speaker 3>when you're like when you're not really thinking, you're just

837
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:28.719
<v Speaker 3>kind of still a bit of sleep as you just

838
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:31.760
<v Speaker 3>have these like instant reactions because they're not actually your

839
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:34.880
<v Speaker 3>own thoughts, it's just what you've been kind of conditioned

840
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:35.920
<v Speaker 3>to react.

841
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:40.639
<v Speaker 5>Like I just say one thing, and like I was

842
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:44.119
<v Speaker 5>always fairly super spiritual when I got with having to

843
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:47.320
<v Speaker 5>the point where I'd be like handed in bloods of

844
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:49.800
<v Speaker 5>amfist crystals and black.

845
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:52.280
<v Speaker 4>Tormaline, why do you by not on tour and be

846
00:43:52.400 --> 00:44:00.079
<v Speaker 4>like no, And I was just like plate.

847
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Protection, weisley, you know.

848
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.039
<v Speaker 5>But we haven't like you know, I'm not saying this

849
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:11.559
<v Speaker 5>is a dick, like you know, it's one of those

850
00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:12.480
<v Speaker 5>people if.

851
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:15.800
<v Speaker 4>If he doesn't want to take.

852
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:19.400
<v Speaker 1>The crystals, I'm not going to take No, it's not and.

853
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:24.360
<v Speaker 5>You can't FALSI no fucking way. So that that was

854
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:29.199
<v Speaker 5>quite insane. But I go a pagap and like lost, I.

855
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:39.559
<v Speaker 3>Have complete for No, actually I haven't really, So I was.

856
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Saying it's honestly, what you were saying is very well said.

857
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:45.079
<v Speaker 2>And if I could like kind of recap it a

858
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:48.400
<v Speaker 2>little bit. It was basically that, like you you have

859
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:53.519
<v Speaker 2>these snap reactions to like that's not real, you know,

860
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.280
<v Speaker 2>that's bullshit, you know whatever, Like and maybe it's like

861
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:00.920
<v Speaker 2>a fear thing, you know, maybe it's like because it

862
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:06.039
<v Speaker 2>challenges what it's comfortable to think, you know, everything. Yeah,

863
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:06.679
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

864
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 3>My kind of view is it's like I feel like

865
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:13.920
<v Speaker 3>a lot of it is conditioning, purposeful conditioning. Yeah, in

866
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:17.000
<v Speaker 3>the in the form of like media and in all

867
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:21.599
<v Speaker 3>forms like you know, like unlike talk shows or on

868
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:25.519
<v Speaker 3>movies or in movies or anything. If anybody mentions a UFO,

869
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:28.400
<v Speaker 3>they're automatically crazy. And like if it's like a talk show,

870
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:29.960
<v Speaker 3>for instance, someone will be like, oh, yeah, I saw

871
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:33.159
<v Speaker 3>a UFO and then this is before twenty seventeen, everyone

872
00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:36.840
<v Speaker 3>will be like, this guy's a fucking idiot kind of thing. Yeah,

873
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 3>And that just over time from you know, being literally

874
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:41.920
<v Speaker 3>a baby and just being constantly exposed to that makes

875
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:45.239
<v Speaker 3>it so that it's your own just natural reaction, but

876
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.880
<v Speaker 3>it's not really based on anything other than just basically

877
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:50.840
<v Speaker 3>parroting and copying what you've been seen on TV or whatever,

878
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:55.679
<v Speaker 3>and that kind of realization is what kind of made

879
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:57.920
<v Speaker 3>me more open to a lot of things. But I

880
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.280
<v Speaker 3>wasn't really thinking about anything other than UFOs. It's it

881
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:02.480
<v Speaker 3>was just like if I was that wrong, what else

882
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:03.880
<v Speaker 3>could I be wrong about? That was like always in

883
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:06.039
<v Speaker 3>the back of my mind. So anytime that I had

884
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:08.920
<v Speaker 3>a snap like bullshit, I would be like, actually, wait

885
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:11.639
<v Speaker 3>a second, I thought UFOs were bullshit? What if this isn't?

886
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:14.679
<v Speaker 3>So maybe I like actually look into things more that,

887
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:17.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, And I think the next step after that

888
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:21.079
<v Speaker 3>was one of the things that popped up on YouTube

889
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:23.519
<v Speaker 3>was I don't know if you've seen the documentary Third

890
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:24.079
<v Speaker 3>Eye Spies.

891
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:27.199
<v Speaker 1>I've heard of it. I've been my Actually, my mother

892
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:30.559
<v Speaker 1>watched it with all people loved it. Really yeah, my

893
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:32.000
<v Speaker 1>mom and dad watched it.

894
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:33.039
<v Speaker 2>What's it about?

895
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:37.800
<v Speaker 3>It's you know Russell Tag, the guy who he was

896
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:41.679
<v Speaker 3>like NASA, right, yeah, Stanford researchers too. Yeah, it was

897
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 3>him and help put off ran the original remote viewing program.

898
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:50.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah. And he got to a point where he

899
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:53.119
<v Speaker 3>was finally released for the from the NDA because you know,

900
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:55.280
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't allowed to talk about it for like, however

901
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:58.519
<v Speaker 3>many decades, and then once he could, and some of

902
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:01.760
<v Speaker 3>the files became public. He this documentary called Third Ice

903
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:05.840
<v Speaker 3>Spies about some of the amazing like things that they

904
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:09.000
<v Speaker 3>got up to in the remote viewing program, and it's

905
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:11.880
<v Speaker 3>like super it's just an amazing documentary. But then right

906
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:13.559
<v Speaker 3>at the end of it, it kind of implies that

907
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:19.360
<v Speaker 3>anyone can do it and limitless mind that he wrote

908
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:21.480
<v Speaker 3>as well. Yeah, I came across that later, but yeah,

909
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:23.440
<v Speaker 3>I remember at the end of it, he's like got

910
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:25.400
<v Speaker 3>a massive like group of not a group like a

911
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:28.000
<v Speaker 3>like it's like a talk that he's doing or something,

912
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.760
<v Speaker 3>a big crowd of people with like on chairs and

913
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:33.519
<v Speaker 3>tables and stuff, and he's getting everyone to do remote

914
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:36.760
<v Speaker 3>viewing and they all get like ninety percent of the

915
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:38.760
<v Speaker 3>people in the crowd are just like holy shit, like

916
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:42.559
<v Speaker 3>we got it. And I remember thinking like no, no,

917
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:46.800
<v Speaker 3>and you know, there was a whole maybe it's not bullshit.

918
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:49.119
<v Speaker 3>And the cool thing about that is you don't have

919
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 3>to rely on like whatever evidence you can find. It's

920
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:55.480
<v Speaker 3>something you can literally try yourself. Yeah, I was like, well,

921
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:57.239
<v Speaker 3>why don't I just give it a girl's try it?

922
00:47:57.480 --> 00:47:59.119
<v Speaker 3>And I tried it, and the first time I tried it,

923
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:01.519
<v Speaker 3>it worked, So I was just like, what the fuck

924
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:03.159
<v Speaker 3>what did.

925
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:04.760
<v Speaker 2>You do specifically, like do you remember?

926
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:07.320
<v Speaker 3>I think it was. I think I found a remote

927
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.119
<v Speaker 3>viewing like like what you called it.

928
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:12.679
<v Speaker 1>It's like a website with like it generates the targets

929
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:12.920
<v Speaker 1>for you.

930
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:14.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it wasn't a generated one. It was one

931
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:16.199
<v Speaker 3>that just had a bunch of them. I think it's

932
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:19.920
<v Speaker 3>was it called that Daz Smith. It's like it's ringing

933
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:21.519
<v Speaker 3>a bell, but like an English from a viewer.

934
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not so it's like a target. You don't see it.

935
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.119
<v Speaker 3>All you see is it's like a hyperlink that's a

936
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:30.840
<v Speaker 3>set of eight digit number, got it? And then you

937
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:32.599
<v Speaker 3>just choose one of those. And this is how I

938
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:34.760
<v Speaker 3>did it. I did a super like stripped down minimalist

939
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:36.679
<v Speaker 3>version of remote viewing where I'd just write the number

940
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:38.719
<v Speaker 3>and then just be like, right, what's it? Okay, that's

941
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:42.679
<v Speaker 3>kind of what popped up. And yeah, I can't remember

942
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:44.360
<v Speaker 3>what it was now I think I've got it. It

943
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:46.960
<v Speaker 3>was the first one was a statue of Liberty.

944
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Nice.

945
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:49.960
<v Speaker 3>And I didn't draw the statue of liberty because am

946
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:52.679
<v Speaker 3>ship drawing and b it was it was more like

947
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:55.679
<v Speaker 3>just elements of the image. So I remember it was

948
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:59.960
<v Speaker 3>like like a star kind of ship. That's like there's

949
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.880
<v Speaker 3>were and then I remember some clouds, and then like

950
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:07.159
<v Speaker 3>another little shape and it's it's not like a perfect drawing,

951
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:08.920
<v Speaker 3>but it's like how kind of remote for you and

952
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:10.239
<v Speaker 3>works a lot of the time. Is you'll get like

953
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:14.920
<v Speaker 3>different aspects and elements of the picture, even if not

954
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:18.360
<v Speaker 3>like joined together properly. I don't know how it works.

955
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:21.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't think anyone does, but yeah, it worked, and

956
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:24.400
<v Speaker 3>I was like, no, I tried another one and that worked.

957
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:26.440
<v Speaker 3>I think it was like a skull with a Mexican

958
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:29.239
<v Speaker 3>hat on or something, and I was just like, well

959
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:33.239
<v Speaker 3>that the only conclusion you can come to from that

960
00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:35.639
<v Speaker 3>is the consciousness isn't in the brain, and if it

961
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:40.679
<v Speaker 3>isn't in the brain, the sky's limit. Like that that

962
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:43.400
<v Speaker 3>that just like immediately opens the door for like everything

963
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:46.639
<v Speaker 3>that I thought was bullshit having to at least have

964
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:48.119
<v Speaker 3>some element of truth to it.

965
00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:51.079
<v Speaker 1>That's that's amazing. That's honestly so amazing.

966
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.719
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing the power of being this much open.

967
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's all it takes.

968
00:49:56.920 --> 00:50:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like that first thing that happened with you seeing

969
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:03.840
<v Speaker 2>that article, that just like cracked the door open for

970
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.719
<v Speaker 2>everything else to start like flowing in and this is.

971
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:11.199
<v Speaker 4>Good for a man with a scientism brain.

972
00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is good point.

973
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:17.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was one of the cool things.

974
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Scratches that that is it's very scientific in the process. Yeah,

975
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.079
<v Speaker 1>he's he and I I you know, like the more

976
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I get to know you, you are very left brain.

977
00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:29.719
<v Speaker 1>You're also very right brain. Don't don't deny that part

978
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:31.480
<v Speaker 1>of yourself too a little bit.

979
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:34.639
<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, I I kind of relate to that

980
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.079
<v Speaker 2>as well because one of the things I love so

981
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:40.079
<v Speaker 2>much about Monroe and Ryan can tell you when we

982
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:42.039
<v Speaker 2>talk about science all the time on the show, I'm

983
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:44.800
<v Speaker 2>like a huge science geek. I love it. It is

984
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:49.000
<v Speaker 2>so fascinating to me. And so the Monroe stuff scratches

985
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:50.800
<v Speaker 2>that part of my brain as well. It's like, there

986
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:54.679
<v Speaker 2>is they are following the scientific process for sure. It's

987
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:55.880
<v Speaker 2>incredibly scientific.

988
00:50:55.960 --> 00:51:00.000
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the foundation of it was laid by scientists,

989
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean obviously. Yeah. Yeah, I can't wait to meet

990
00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:06.320
<v Speaker 1>him later this month. I'll just meet actually like two

991
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:06.840
<v Speaker 1>weeks from now.

992
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:07.599
<v Speaker 3>That's so cool.

993
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.719
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so I love that, man, I love that.

994
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Like That's why I thought it was so important to

995
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:15.280
<v Speaker 1>go into that part of you and like find out

996
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:19.280
<v Speaker 1>how you took this step towards awakening to like the

997
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:22.039
<v Speaker 1>greater reality, you know, consciousness and everything, because I think

998
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:23.639
<v Speaker 1>that there are a lot of people out there like

999
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you who need that rational evidence you know that there's

1000
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:33.000
<v Speaker 1>something there, something paranormal, something mystical.

1001
00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Another little thing is that it wasn't like a media

1002
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:37.360
<v Speaker 3>that I was like, fuck, I'll try it. Like I

1003
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:39.679
<v Speaker 3>said that, you you know, you don't need all of

1004
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:41.320
<v Speaker 3>the evidence if you can try it yourself because you

1005
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:45.239
<v Speaker 3>can see for yourself but replicable. Yeah, and you can

1006
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:47.639
<v Speaker 3>like you don't have to rely on the evidence. But

1007
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:51.199
<v Speaker 3>that being said, there is so much evidence. Oh so much.

1008
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:54.559
<v Speaker 3>There's literally like peer reviewed scientific journals and and shit,

1009
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:58.199
<v Speaker 3>that's so much. Yeah, but it's just either a combination

1010
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:03.679
<v Speaker 3>of suppressed and and just mocked by like mainstream science

1011
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:07.840
<v Speaker 3>and Wikipedia being like just literal disinformation. So if you

1012
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.840
<v Speaker 3>try and google anything, it'll it will never properly show

1013
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:12.880
<v Speaker 3>you like what you're looking for, so you just have

1014
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:13.599
<v Speaker 3>to know where to look.

1015
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it'll often show you the opposite. It'll show you

1016
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:18.599
<v Speaker 2>all the reasons why exactly what you're looking for.

1017
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:21.559
<v Speaker 3>Bullshit. Yeah, yeah, So anyone who's just like, oh I

1018
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:23.480
<v Speaker 3>wonder what this is all about. They'll google it and

1019
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:26.199
<v Speaker 3>be like, oh yeah, just like I thought it was bullshit.

1020
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, it's like see, just try it.

1021
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I told you it's bullshit.

1022
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:31.639
<v Speaker 2>Google told me.

1023
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:31.719
<v Speaker 3>So.

1024
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're talking.

1025
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:35.480
<v Speaker 2>About things you can try. That's one of the fundamentals

1026
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:39.679
<v Speaker 2>of the scientific processes. Is it replicable? Can you do

1027
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:42.599
<v Speaker 2>it right now? And like, is there a chance of

1028
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:44.920
<v Speaker 2>it working if you do it right now? It doesn't

1029
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:47.639
<v Speaker 2>have to happen every single time you do it right now,

1030
00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:50.599
<v Speaker 2>but can you replicate it in like a closed environment?

1031
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Like and and the cool thing about.

1032
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Like the viewing stuff, but in particular is that you

1033
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:57.039
<v Speaker 3>know all of the well not all of them, but

1034
00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.840
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of the studies and stuff on that they'll

1035
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:05.199
<v Speaker 3>be remote viewing like because it's like has to be

1036
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:07.360
<v Speaker 3>set up in a specific way. They'll be like four

1037
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:10.920
<v Speaker 3>potential targets. Say, so there's like a so the way

1038
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:12.639
<v Speaker 3>that they kind of structure it is that there's like

1039
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:14.519
<v Speaker 3>a one in four chance that they could get it right,

1040
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:19.360
<v Speaker 3>and over time there'll be a statistically significant thing over time,

1041
00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:22.960
<v Speaker 3>you know. But really, when you think about what remote

1042
00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:25.199
<v Speaker 3>viewing is, it's it's like it's not one in four.

1043
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:28.440
<v Speaker 3>Even if there's four things you can choose from, it's

1044
00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:31.599
<v Speaker 3>like one in infinite. Like the chances of even getting

1045
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:34.480
<v Speaker 3>anything close to to just literally what could be anything

1046
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:38.320
<v Speaker 3>just from a string of numbers is like infinitesimally small.

1047
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Like the fact that you can close your eyes, get

1048
00:53:41.480 --> 00:53:45.400
<v Speaker 3>into meditation and just think about four numbers and then

1049
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:48.519
<v Speaker 3>draw whatever you see, and then you look what the

1050
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:50.719
<v Speaker 3>four numbers represents and that you've drawn it, like what

1051
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:54.880
<v Speaker 3>the fuck it anything? It can be literally anything, So

1052
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:56.280
<v Speaker 3>it's definitely more than one in four, do you know

1053
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:56.559
<v Speaker 3>what I mean?

1054
00:53:57.159 --> 00:53:58.599
<v Speaker 1>Even if you get a little bit right, it's like,

1055
00:53:58.639 --> 00:53:59.119
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck?

1056
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.679
<v Speaker 2>It's profound, Yeah, understanding that that is kind of that

1057
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:06.079
<v Speaker 2>it could be anything literally in existence, anything that you

1058
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:09.840
<v Speaker 2>could observe with your eyeballs, Like it's infinite.

1059
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I never thought about it like that because I've always

1060
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:15.480
<v Speaker 1>not really needed that level off, you know what I mean.

1061
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:18.679
<v Speaker 2>If it was like remote view of color, there's like

1062
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:19.960
<v Speaker 2>what freaking.

1063
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:22.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean technically like seven I guess if you count

1064
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:25.119
<v Speaker 1>the rainbow the primary not only in sight too.

1065
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:28.760
<v Speaker 7>One of the one of the most breakthrough pieces of

1066
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:33.559
<v Speaker 7>like tips that I got from Amy was what do

1067
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:37.360
<v Speaker 7>you like what do you feel what's going on with

1068
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:39.679
<v Speaker 7>your other senses not just sight? And when you kind

1069
00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:42.679
<v Speaker 7>of when you start to like get really into practicing

1070
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:44.760
<v Speaker 7>and you kind of start to burn out and it's

1071
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:49.159
<v Speaker 7>not coming to you. I remember doing exactly what you

1072
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:51.920
<v Speaker 7>were doing Erin and I felt like I was up

1073
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:54.280
<v Speaker 7>high and like on a ledge, but I couldn't. I

1074
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:57.440
<v Speaker 7>wasn't getting any visual. It just felt like I was

1075
00:54:57.480 --> 00:54:59.400
<v Speaker 7>a pie. And it turns out the photo was of

1076
00:54:59.440 --> 00:54:59.960
<v Speaker 7>a bridge.

1077
00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:04.559
<v Speaker 2>That's something that I still haven't tried. You're right, Like

1078
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:07.360
<v Speaker 2>I remember Amy telling us that, and it's sounding like

1079
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:09.840
<v Speaker 2>so profound to try to try to use your other

1080
00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:11.960
<v Speaker 2>senses because I can't see things in my.

1081
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:15.519
<v Speaker 1>Brain that's but you can. Yeah, yeah I can hear

1082
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:15.920
<v Speaker 1>you know.

1083
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:18.599
<v Speaker 3>So one of the things for me why it was

1084
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:20.199
<v Speaker 3>like so mind But another reason why it was so

1085
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:24.280
<v Speaker 3>mind blowing this whole removiewing thing is I have like

1086
00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:29.760
<v Speaker 3>mild like a fantasias, so like, yeah.

1087
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:32.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these people are my best friends, so like I don't.

1088
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:34.960
<v Speaker 3>I can I can imagine like stuff, but it doesn't

1089
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.400
<v Speaker 3>look like a picture behind my eyes, say, I don't

1090
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:40.119
<v Speaker 3>see it. Just the concept of it is just there.

1091
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:44.079
<v Speaker 2>And that's it's like, how this is lime flavored? Yeah,

1092
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:47.360
<v Speaker 2>it's like this is like a mild suggestion of a

1093
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:52.239
<v Speaker 2>lime kind of It makes you think, right, it makes

1094
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:54.760
<v Speaker 2>you think about kind of what a lime is like.

1095
00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:58.559
<v Speaker 2>But it's so extremely faint that it's not even like

1096
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:00.519
<v Speaker 2>you're seeing definitely not.

1097
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:04.599
<v Speaker 3>It's just a concept right like somewhere, so it's not visual.

1098
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.400
<v Speaker 3>But so the point is that when I started doing

1099
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:11.199
<v Speaker 3>specifically trying to use like Monroe Hemi sync type stuff

1100
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:16.960
<v Speaker 3>to make the remote viewing better, going from being completely

1101
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:21.199
<v Speaker 3>blackness behind my eyes, I would start like seeing flashes

1102
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:23.559
<v Speaker 3>of actual images. So I knew that that wasn't my

1103
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:27.159
<v Speaker 3>imagination because I don't see pictures in my closed eyes.

1104
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:30.480
<v Speaker 3>So I was like, one of the things with remote

1105
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:34.360
<v Speaker 3>viewing is you're supposed to be able to filter what

1106
00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:36.039
<v Speaker 3>is it called the you know, the noise?

1107
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what you mean. I don't

1108
00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:39.199
<v Speaker 2>know the word for it.

1109
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:43.039
<v Speaker 3>Static, Yeah, like like your monkey brain. You have to

1110
00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:44.440
<v Speaker 3>get that out of the way because otherwise you might

1111
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:45.960
<v Speaker 3>be just imagining things and you don't want to be

1112
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:50.320
<v Speaker 3>drawing what you're imagining. You want to be drawing the signal. Yeah. Anyway,

1113
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:52.480
<v Speaker 3>so for me, there is no like visual noise, So

1114
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:53.880
<v Speaker 3>as soon as I see a flash of in image,

1115
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, holy shit, I'll draw that.

1116
00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Yah.

1117
00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:58.679
<v Speaker 3>And for some reason that just seems to be pretty

1118
00:56:58.719 --> 00:56:59.920
<v Speaker 3>accurate a lot of the time.

1119
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:03.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when we did when we did Creation Station, a

1120
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:05.760
<v Speaker 2>couple of time. It wasn't every time we did a meditation,

1121
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:09.360
<v Speaker 2>but a couple of times I actually saw things and

1122
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:09.920
<v Speaker 2>it was like.

1123
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:11.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it suck in it.

1124
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:13.559
<v Speaker 2>It does happen. I don't know if it's the same

1125
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:17.800
<v Speaker 2>with you, but like you know, ninety whatever, ninety five

1126
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:20.760
<v Speaker 2>ninety nine percent of the time, it's just literal blackness.

1127
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:23.760
<v Speaker 2>But then maybe like once a month or so, something

1128
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:26.519
<v Speaker 2>will come through and you're like, yeah, what was that?

1129
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Or do you what about dreams? Do you dream a lot?

1130
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Not doubling dreams, Yeah, but it's like do you have

1131
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:35.559
<v Speaker 2>like very vivid dreams?

1132
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:37.760
<v Speaker 3>My dreams. It's it's completely different because when you're in

1133
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:40.559
<v Speaker 3>a dream, it's like you're there, so it's like waking vision.

1134
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:43.000
<v Speaker 3>It's not like you trying to picture something. It's like

1135
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:45.000
<v Speaker 3>all just built and done by.

1136
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Your good point. I have this like I wondered if

1137
00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:50.960
<v Speaker 2>like maybe because I feel like I don't dream a lot.

1138
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:52.519
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, maybe it has to do with the

1139
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:56.440
<v Speaker 2>f Fantasia thing, but maybe it's that I need to

1140
00:57:56.599 --> 00:57:59.599
<v Speaker 2>try doing the dream journal stuff. You should try it

1141
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:01.840
<v Speaker 2>because I think I do dream.

1142
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:03.559
<v Speaker 3>More than I think I do. I just you know,

1143
00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:06.280
<v Speaker 3>we pretty sure everyone dreams every night. It's just you

1144
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:07.440
<v Speaker 3>forget it. It was like, straight.

1145
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Away, within seconds something that was recommended to me. I

1146
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:13.320
<v Speaker 1>can't remember it was one of my friends from Monroe,

1147
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:15.119
<v Speaker 1>I can't I don't know if it was like Nacio

1148
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:18.639
<v Speaker 1>or who Probably not, But something that they do to

1149
00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:20.599
<v Speaker 1>journal everything. They don't even write it down. They just

1150
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:21.960
<v Speaker 1>pull up a note on their phone and they just

1151
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:23.920
<v Speaker 1>talk to it and just drot it down. Like you

1152
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:27.079
<v Speaker 1>don't have to be like methodical and meticulous. Just capture it,

1153
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:28.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you do with music.

1154
00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Try it.

1155
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Just pull up a note, make make little dream notes

1156
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:33.800
<v Speaker 1>on your on your phone and just kind of talk

1157
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:34.199
<v Speaker 1>to it.

1158
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you do that with music. If you hear a

1159
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:38.880
<v Speaker 2>little riff or a little thing in your head.

1160
00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:40.960
<v Speaker 3>That's one of the most annoying things when I get

1161
00:58:41.000 --> 00:58:44.119
<v Speaker 3>to sleep, because I'm like, oh, just the best fucking

1162
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:46.079
<v Speaker 3>riff all, but I need to get all the beds

1163
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:47.960
<v Speaker 3>we even be able to write it down or something,

1164
00:58:48.039 --> 00:58:51.360
<v Speaker 3>or like sing it in my phone. Please remember it,

1165
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:53.519
<v Speaker 3>please remember it. And then I wake up and I'm like,

1166
00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:57.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember that with yeah anything. And another annoying

1167
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:01.320
<v Speaker 3>thing that always happens is I have a dream where

1168
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:03.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm like seeing a band live, and then I'll realize

1169
00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:07.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm dreaming, and then I'll be like, Okay, I'm not

1170
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:11.440
<v Speaker 3>seeing a band that exists. This band is in my

1171
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:14.360
<v Speaker 3>my dream. So this riff is now mine for the taking,

1172
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:16.880
<v Speaker 3>and it's sick. So all I need to do now

1173
00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:17.639
<v Speaker 3>is remember the riff.

1174
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Right.

1175
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:20.079
<v Speaker 3>So what I'm gonna do right, let me think, Okay, yeah,

1176
00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:21.880
<v Speaker 3>what I'll do is I'll write it down, and then

1177
00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:23.320
<v Speaker 3>when I wake up, all I have to do is

1178
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:23.960
<v Speaker 3>look at the paper.

1179
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:28.519
<v Speaker 2>And I wake up, I'm like, oh, I know exactly.

1180
00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:30.000
<v Speaker 1>You wake up and you're like, why am I naked?

1181
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:34.039
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1182
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Write my people?

1183
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1184
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Marbler?

1185
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:43.519
<v Speaker 2>I would gobbler everyone. Yeah. I do it all the time.

1186
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll get a little and it for some reason, it

1187
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:48.599
<v Speaker 2>does seem like like either just waking up or just

1188
00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:51.719
<v Speaker 2>about to fall asleep. They start coming in and you

1189
00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:54.440
<v Speaker 2>can ask Casey, I'll just be like and I'm like,

1190
00:59:55.280 --> 01:00:00.239
<v Speaker 2>grab my phone and got by dating Dian and then

1191
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:03.679
<v Speaker 2>she's like, what do you do? Like I had an idea,

1192
01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:05.679
<v Speaker 2>I had to I'm sorry, I had to record it

1193
01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:06.920
<v Speaker 2>before I forgot it.

1194
01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:09.039
<v Speaker 3>To be fair that when you are like waking up

1195
01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:11.000
<v Speaker 3>and then going to sleep, that's like when you're the

1196
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:13.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of your vibration almost changes, and it's like when

1197
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:16.639
<v Speaker 3>you're the closest to the kind of meditative perfect state

1198
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:18.559
<v Speaker 3>of being shifting.

1199
01:00:18.639 --> 01:00:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, consciousness is phase shifting and fader too.

1200
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1201
01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:26.480
<v Speaker 3>And I think like music in general, but like for us,

1202
01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:29.719
<v Speaker 3>like rifts and like you know, cool melodies and stuff.

1203
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:33.159
<v Speaker 3>I think they exist somewhere else. It's not like in

1204
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:37.320
<v Speaker 3>our dimension, and we like access them to like, because

1205
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:39.440
<v Speaker 3>the best rifts always come when you're not even thinking,

1206
01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:42.119
<v Speaker 3>you're not trying to write a rift, Like you pick

1207
01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:44.400
<v Speaker 3>up a guitar maybe and you're be like, oh.

1208
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:46.039
<v Speaker 1>What's this, Oh ship, that's good.

1209
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you don't know where it came from, but

1210
01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:51.599
<v Speaker 3>it's sick. And I think that that's like it's it's

1211
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:55.079
<v Speaker 3>unlike realm somewhere there's like a realm of awesome, sick,

1212
01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:59.159
<v Speaker 3>thick rifts. And that's one of my one of my

1213
01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:01.519
<v Speaker 3>like main long tim goals for like doing Monroe stuff

1214
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:04.239
<v Speaker 3>is to be able to like consciously access that realm,

1215
01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:06.840
<v Speaker 3>like flying around like, oh, that's a nice.

1216
01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Creation station. Yeah, we were talking about that.

1217
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have the exact same philosophy with music. I've

1218
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 2>talked about that on the show.

1219
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:18.679
<v Speaker 1>We have entire episodes about that. There's a clip.

1220
01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Of me saying that exact thing what you're saying right there,

1221
01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:24.320
<v Speaker 2>like music exists somewhere else, or in general, I think

1222
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:27.159
<v Speaker 2>like it exists in a in a realm somewhere else.

1223
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I think it's called music is magic. The episode we did.

1224
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:33.639
<v Speaker 5>On it, and could I just add the for Avans

1225
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:40.239
<v Speaker 5>fans out there, and oh yeah, Avan also writes guitar.

1226
01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:43.599
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, and you know it does a lot of

1227
01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:44.239
<v Speaker 5>the music.

1228
01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:46.840
<v Speaker 4>So it's not just one. It's a mastermind.

1229
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:49.840
<v Speaker 1>If I ever think so, oh yeah, he's like a mad scientist,

1230
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:50.599
<v Speaker 1>you know.

1231
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:54.920
<v Speaker 5>And it's not just me though, let me just of

1232
01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:58.360
<v Speaker 5>course it's not just of course, you're just multi down

1233
01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:04.559
<v Speaker 5>and like singing together is one of the best things

1234
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:08.639
<v Speaker 5>I've ever seen in my life. And I love being

1235
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:14.159
<v Speaker 5>a part of that environment where you see the creative

1236
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:16.519
<v Speaker 5>if from both of them, and.

1237
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:21.079
<v Speaker 4>It's just amazing and it's funny, it's cool.

1238
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:25.119
<v Speaker 5>Vibes and you know, I don't want to go on off,

1239
01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:29.039
<v Speaker 5>go off on a full tangent, but that there's definitely

1240
01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:30.599
<v Speaker 5>something to music.

1241
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:31.280
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1242
01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:34.559
<v Speaker 5>I always used to say that, you know, what if

1243
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:38.400
<v Speaker 5>talking what if Middle Earth is real? What if Skyving

1244
01:02:38.559 --> 01:02:41.960
<v Speaker 5>is real? But you know, with Silma Religan for example,

1245
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:47.760
<v Speaker 5>you know, the world was created by sound music. And

1246
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:52.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, look at what we mentioned last night Pythagoris

1247
01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:56.400
<v Speaker 5>about I can't remember what it is, but there's the

1248
01:02:56.519 --> 01:02:57.960
<v Speaker 5>specific the harmony of.

1249
01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeahs from what is sound and music vibration, which.

1250
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:08.039
<v Speaker 1>Is literally Hinduism. Oh yeah, you know, yeah, we talked

1251
01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:10.159
<v Speaker 1>about that in the cimatics, so.

1252
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:14.360
<v Speaker 4>It's a link they spuck to what it was on

1253
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:15.000
<v Speaker 4>the pup Park.

1254
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Music is magic, That's the thing, is it is. Yeah,

1255
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:20.800
<v Speaker 2>That's that's the truth.

1256
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:23.239
<v Speaker 1>And I also just think creativity in general is magic.

1257
01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean you know that, you know, especially when you

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01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:26.599
<v Speaker 1>do Gateway, they walk you through that. That's one of

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01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:30.159
<v Speaker 1>the amazing things about the Gateway voyage is they cram

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<v Speaker 1>you with information about the right versus the left brain.

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01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:36.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, like they made me watch a ted talk.

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01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Did you guys have to watch that one about the

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<v Speaker 1>lady that was having the stroke? It's brilliant, right I

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<v Speaker 1>think we saw that. Yeah, yeah, well it was just brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a neuroscientist. You guys should honestly watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like ten minutes if I can find it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a neuroscientist, right, she starts having a stroke. But

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<v Speaker 1>the stroke was it was in her left brain, right,

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01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:03.360
<v Speaker 1>So because she's a neuroscienceist, she's like fascinated at what's

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01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:07.840
<v Speaker 1>happening in her brain. So she's kind of like documenting

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01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the cognitive decline that she's experiencing as the stroke. There's

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<v Speaker 1>like a I don't remember if it was a tumor

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01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:15.400
<v Speaker 1>or what, but there's like I think it was an abscess.

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01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:18.239
<v Speaker 1>It was like growing in her brain, shutting down her

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01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:21.519
<v Speaker 1>leftern hemis or leftern I was thinking of western and

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01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:24.039
<v Speaker 1>lefter hen but the left hemisphere of her brain. You know,

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01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:27.559
<v Speaker 1>it's like beginning to shut down, and she's losing it. Yeah,

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01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:30.880
<v Speaker 1>in her mind, she's losing all of her logical and

1279
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:35.800
<v Speaker 1>like time and spatial function, spatial functioning, attempting to like

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01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:38.760
<v Speaker 1>call nine to one one. But she's struggling because her

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01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:41.519
<v Speaker 1>left brain is shutting down. So the TED talk is

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01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:45.440
<v Speaker 1>her like walking you through each step of her cognitive

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01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:47.840
<v Speaker 1>decline and then explaining to you the magic of the

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01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:50.679
<v Speaker 1>right brain and how that that she like clicked and

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01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:53.599
<v Speaker 1>realized there was magic in the right brain. It's brilliant, dude.

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01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, it's brilliant.

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01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:55.519
<v Speaker 2>Easy.

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01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's really incredible. It's like one of the

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01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:01.880
<v Speaker 1>best ten minute videos I've ever seen. Yeah, it's really deep.

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01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:02.679
<v Speaker 2>I want to see that.

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01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:05.239
<v Speaker 1>She ties it to like consciousness and stuff like that.

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01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:06.960
<v Speaker 1>But it's a TED talk, so it's like super sciencey,

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01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:07.199
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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01:05:07.239 --> 01:05:10.679
<v Speaker 2>But oh my gosh, how fascinating and what a unique

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01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:14.519
<v Speaker 2>perspective too. How many people could even be well, oh

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01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:16.519
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, it's like, first of all, how many people

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01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:19.679
<v Speaker 2>does that happen to? And then secondly, it's like to

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01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:23.559
<v Speaker 2>have the wherewithal to think, I need to document what's

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01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:25.039
<v Speaker 2>happening to me while.

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01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:27.800
<v Speaker 1>As she's a brain scientist, you know, Yeah, she's like

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01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:32.159
<v Speaker 1>perfect the opportunity, Yeah, kind of, it's very profound.

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01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:35.840
<v Speaker 2>And then to document like the right brain kind of

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01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:39.119
<v Speaker 2>compensating for Yeah, wow, I got to see that.

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01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Her language is starting to fade, her speech is slurring

1305
01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:43.760
<v Speaker 1>because her left brain is shutting down, and you know,

1306
01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:45.920
<v Speaker 1>she's like struggling to even dial the numbers on the phone.

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01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:48.840
<v Speaker 1>And I think somebody at her office was like, oh

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01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:50.320
<v Speaker 1>my god, something's wrong. What happened to her? We need

1309
01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:51.719
<v Speaker 1>to check on her because she's been gone for hours

1310
01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:53.679
<v Speaker 1>and she got kind of rescued and she's fine but

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01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:59.079
<v Speaker 1>really cool. So yeah, I mean, it's fascinating stuff. Man,

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01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Like the magic. I just guess the right brain is creativity,

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01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:04.800
<v Speaker 1>it's art, it's you know, it's it's e motion, it's think.

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01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:08.880
<v Speaker 2>It's a direct link to the ka, the soul. Yeah,

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01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:11.760
<v Speaker 2>it's a direct it. You know, we we have these

1316
01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:16.079
<v Speaker 2>like crude senses and these crude forms of communication that

1317
01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:19.880
<v Speaker 2>we we think we're good at communicating for for all

1318
01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:23.159
<v Speaker 2>we know we are, but then there's still always things

1319
01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:29.440
<v Speaker 2>that we feel that we think that we just can't articulate.

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01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:31.840
<v Speaker 3>You just something that's going to blow your mind. Every

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01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:34.800
<v Speaker 3>single word in the dictionary needs another word in the

1322
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:35.880
<v Speaker 3>dictionary to describe it.

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01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:39.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:41.280
<v Speaker 3>So it's just a big recassive loop. Is always an

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01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:42.360
<v Speaker 3>inherent limitation.

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01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I never thought about that. Actually, yeah, it's an infinite

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01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:48.480
<v Speaker 1>feedback loop. I never once concerned that.

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01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:53.400
<v Speaker 2>But like music isn't music, it doesn't you don't nothing

1329
01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:57.920
<v Speaker 2>has to qualify it infinite. Yeah, art, a painting doesn't

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01:06:57.960 --> 01:06:59.639
<v Speaker 2>have to be described.

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01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:01.519
<v Speaker 1>That's true. You don't need to learn how to feel

1332
01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:03.920
<v Speaker 1>about it or how to understand it or react to it.

1333
01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:06.800
<v Speaker 2>A child can look at a painting or hear a song.

1334
01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:11.039
<v Speaker 3>Like music all the time. Yeah, I seem like like

1335
01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:13.280
<v Speaker 3>buds and stuff, like.

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01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. My cat. I have a cat name,

1337
01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:20.840
<v Speaker 2>he's a I have a big twenty pound cat, big fluffy,

1338
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:25.360
<v Speaker 2>huge lion, and uh he his name's sugar Bear. And

1339
01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:28.559
<v Speaker 2>he's very anxious. But you play any kind of music

1340
01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:31.760
<v Speaker 2>around him and he just like he'll just flop over,

1341
01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:34.199
<v Speaker 2>literally flop over and turn it upside down. And it's

1342
01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:37.039
<v Speaker 2>just like he's a different cat if there's music, any

1343
01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:40.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of music. Even Casey will just sing to him sometimes,

1344
01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:43.480
<v Speaker 2>so just sing around him and he'll just immediately calm down.

1345
01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:45.920
<v Speaker 2>You'll see his eyes start to soften and stuff. And

1346
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:50.199
<v Speaker 2>it's like they don't they have no context whatsoever. They're

1347
01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:51.559
<v Speaker 2>just receiving raw data.

1348
01:07:51.639 --> 01:07:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just sounds.

1349
01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:57.639
<v Speaker 2>It just sounds that's.

1350
01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:00.960
<v Speaker 1>He was telling us. I don't know which one of

1351
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:02.639
<v Speaker 1>y'all was or wasn't in the room, but he was

1352
01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:06.159
<v Speaker 1>saying that he has these friends that the only thing

1353
01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:09.760
<v Speaker 1>in the world that calms their dog down is playing infant.

1354
01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Can you believe that? I believe that? But like, can

1355
01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you believe that? That's insane? That dog is? That dog

1356
01:08:17.079 --> 01:08:20.359
<v Speaker 1>is uh, how do you say it? He's a legend

1357
01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:26.000
<v Speaker 1>in the head. No, but yes, he's also a legend too. Yeah,

1358
01:08:26.039 --> 01:08:28.119
<v Speaker 1>he's also a legend too. It's also a legend.

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01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:31.560
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there's like, you know, there's a stigma about

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01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:34.680
<v Speaker 2>like extreme metal music that it's like scary or calms

1361
01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:37.760
<v Speaker 2>me down or it's anxiety inducing or whatever. But like

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01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:41.760
<v Speaker 2>my nieces and nephew, like ever since they were like

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01:08:41.880 --> 01:08:44.079
<v Speaker 2>three or four years old, will be on like a

1364
01:08:44.199 --> 01:08:46.560
<v Speaker 2>road trip and they're like begging me to put my

1365
01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:48.600
<v Speaker 2>headphones on them so that they can listen to my

1366
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:53.039
<v Speaker 2>like disgustingly heavy metal music whatever it is, because they

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01:08:53.079 --> 01:08:53.439
<v Speaker 2>love it.

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01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:56.000
<v Speaker 1>They're like, yeah, he liked it when we were kids

1369
01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:58.600
<v Speaker 1>and we heard it, We're like, whoa, it's the forbidden Fruit.

1370
01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:03.199
<v Speaker 1>My parents don't like this, therefore.

1372
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:06.640
<v Speaker 2>I love it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it's like without

1373
01:09:07.079 --> 01:09:11.880
<v Speaker 2>the outside context or outside influence, just taking it in raw,

1374
01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:15.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, it speaks for itself. I guess

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01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:16.159
<v Speaker 2>that's a good way.

1376
01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:18.840
<v Speaker 3>To put its raw dog and music, Raw dog.

1377
01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:19.960
<v Speaker 1>And music, Raw dog and music.

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01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I like that. That's uh. That that's uh, that's brilliant.

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01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:25.640
<v Speaker 2>That's brilliant.

1381
01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:26.319
<v Speaker 1>It's brilliant.

1382
01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:28.520
<v Speaker 2>You're you're peppering that word in huh.

1383
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I recognize brilliance.

1384
01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:35.960
<v Speaker 2>You are brilliant right now. If I may say, well.

1385
01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:40.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm in uh a crowd of like minded people, I'm

1386
01:09:40.239 --> 01:09:42.680
<v Speaker 1>only a reflection of all of your energy beaming before me.

1387
01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:52.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm on the raw in the UK. That that's something

1388
01:09:52.239 --> 01:09:54.840
<v Speaker 4>called dogaine to you guys.

1389
01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:57.319
<v Speaker 3>You guys had a dog in dogging? Wait, this is

1390
01:09:57.359 --> 01:09:58.920
<v Speaker 3>funer friendly right, No.

1391
01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:03.479
<v Speaker 1>We've swam like now, you're fine.

1392
01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:04.199
<v Speaker 2>What is it?

1393
01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Dogging would be like you dog on your friends, you

1394
01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:10.159
<v Speaker 1>joke around, that's true. Yeah.

1395
01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:15.680
<v Speaker 2>No, If I'm dogging on Ryan here, that means like

1396
01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm like making fun of him, or I'm like

1397
01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:21.520
<v Speaker 2>picking on him or something like that. What is it? Okay?

1398
01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:28.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you cut. I feel like you're explaining.

1399
01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:30.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's not much to explain. It's just driving to

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01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:35.359
<v Speaker 3>a car park, a secluded car park usually like in

1401
01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:39.359
<v Speaker 3>the middle of nowhere, to do what to watch other

1402
01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:43.159
<v Speaker 3>people and have other people what you do sexual things.

1403
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:45.840
<v Speaker 4>And it's not old mocket men.

1404
01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. There's a lot of data packed into.

1405
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:57.720
<v Speaker 2>The you know, it's like voyeuristic type stuff.

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01:10:57.800 --> 01:11:02.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, and away that's now. I don't

1407
01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:04.399
<v Speaker 1>think we use that much the same way.

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01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:07.319
<v Speaker 2>That's so much more specific than I thought it would.

1409
01:11:07.479 --> 01:11:08.279
<v Speaker 3>It's very specific.

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01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:11.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if there's like a word for

1411
01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:12.520
<v Speaker 2>that here.

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01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:16.880
<v Speaker 1>It would just be like people to make out reef.

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01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Would be like peeping or like uh moving on.

1414
01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:34.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I just I think just you Yeah, she's

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01:11:34.119 --> 01:11:36.560
<v Speaker 1>providing cultural We've been doing it for three days now.

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01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:37.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dogging.

1417
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've been We've been dogging for.

1418
01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Legal reasons. That is a joke, no, but seriously, we've

1419
01:11:46.880 --> 01:11:48.600
<v Speaker 1>been doing it for three days now and it's been hilarious.

1420
01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:50.600
<v Speaker 1>We're in the kitchen cooking, there's fires going on, and

1421
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:52.520
<v Speaker 1>she's like, she's like, I need the joke.

1422
01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:55.760
<v Speaker 2>What was the word the jug? And she was talking

1423
01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:56.760
<v Speaker 2>about a measuring.

1424
01:11:56.680 --> 01:11:57.239
<v Speaker 1>A measuring cup.

1425
01:11:57.319 --> 01:11:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then we're like we're eating the food and

1426
01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:01.239
<v Speaker 2>it's so good and we're like, damn, you put your

1427
01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:05.119
<v Speaker 2>foot in that. And they're like, what, like that's that's not?

1428
01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:07.479
<v Speaker 2>Like that was good? Yeah, yeah exactly, and we're like, oh,

1429
01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:09.840
<v Speaker 2>it's good as fun. It's so good. It's like really good.

1430
01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:10.640
<v Speaker 2>You put your foot in it.

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01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh I thought you men, I stepped and ship. It's

1432
01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:15.680
<v Speaker 1>just like back and forth. It's hilarious. But no, you're

1433
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:19.680
<v Speaker 1>right that there's so many different, you know, meanings packed

1434
01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:22.800
<v Speaker 1>into words, and to try to wrap it to something

1435
01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:27.720
<v Speaker 1>with a sliver of seriousness, I give up. I do

1436
01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:30.880
<v Speaker 1>have a question, though, I'm curious to know, because I

1437
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:33.119
<v Speaker 1>don't think I've outright asked. I'm curious to know how

1438
01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:39.319
<v Speaker 1>you got into our story, how you're exposed to it,

1439
01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:40.520
<v Speaker 1>How how you can't think.

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01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:46.279
<v Speaker 3>I think I think I'd always seen little bits here

1441
01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:49.159
<v Speaker 3>in that because I'm like a very rapid holy person,

1442
01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:51.960
<v Speaker 3>and every now and again, on one of the many

1443
01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:53.880
<v Speaker 3>rabbit holes that go down, like I would always just

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01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:56.159
<v Speaker 3>see the blood zoname just pop up every now and again,

1445
01:12:56.600 --> 01:13:00.199
<v Speaker 3>and after a while I would like be like, really

1446
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:02.359
<v Speaker 3>need to look into this a bit more. And then

1447
01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:06.600
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember where it was, but it was like,

1448
01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:09.279
<v Speaker 3>if you want to get serious about this topic, and

1449
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:10.960
<v Speaker 3>he's kind of look into the bloodsuff so I was

1450
01:13:10.960 --> 01:13:13.319
<v Speaker 3>like okay, and I did, and I was like, holy shit,

1451
01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:16.640
<v Speaker 3>interesting long story show. That was basically what happened.

1452
01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Ye had you seen ORBS prior to that, or you

1453
01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:22.479
<v Speaker 2>might not have known a look.

1454
01:13:22.720 --> 01:13:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember what. I can't remember the exact timeline

1455
01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:29.319
<v Speaker 3>of it all. I've had some experiences, but it wasn't

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01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:33.079
<v Speaker 3>like it was all kind of meditative experiences. It wasn't

1457
01:13:33.119 --> 01:13:37.439
<v Speaker 3>like out in the default reality kind of sea.

1458
01:13:38.680 --> 01:13:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, but you saw or before we officially

1459
01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:48.960
<v Speaker 1>met though, right, Oh, actually I remember, Yeah, I remember,

1460
01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I remember. Okay, let's go into that.

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01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:54.439
<v Speaker 3>It was around the whole drone or well, I remember

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01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:55.720
<v Speaker 3>when that happened. It was around that time.

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01:13:55.800 --> 01:14:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I remember we met somewhere around late October and November

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01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:02.720
<v Speaker 1>for the first phone call, and you guys were about

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01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to go on a trip to the Maryland site, the

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01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:06.399
<v Speaker 1>one this is just the same one that you were

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01:14:06.439 --> 01:14:12.439
<v Speaker 1>showing them the pictures of. Yeah, yeah, okay, And I

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01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:15.319
<v Speaker 1>don't remember. I just I feel like I just told

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01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:18.439
<v Speaker 1>you guys, very minimally, like, look, you can see orbs.

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01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:20.319
<v Speaker 1>You don't need to be with me, you don't need

1471
01:14:20.359 --> 01:14:24.319
<v Speaker 1>to have any special, you know, thing going on, just

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01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:26.479
<v Speaker 1>to like kind of look up and request. Didn't I

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01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:29.399
<v Speaker 1>say something like that was something very generally yeah. And

1474
01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:31.720
<v Speaker 1>then we touched base again after their trip and they're like,

1475
01:14:32.119 --> 01:14:34.319
<v Speaker 1>we got all the way there, two hour drive, had

1476
01:14:34.359 --> 01:14:36.680
<v Speaker 1>fun at this place whatever, and then they were like

1477
01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:38.920
<v Speaker 1>on the drive back, we saw them while they were

1478
01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:41.520
<v Speaker 1>in the car, so it was like the first time

1479
01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:43.479
<v Speaker 1>we met. They were just like boom, okay, we see

1480
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:46.960
<v Speaker 1>orbs now, you know which usually it takes a little longer.

1481
01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:50.199
<v Speaker 1>And the only reason is because I've come to realize

1482
01:14:50.199 --> 01:14:52.840
<v Speaker 1>now it's the belief in the individual.

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01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, you know. Yeah, you guys were just ready. That's

1484
01:14:55.720 --> 01:14:58.760
<v Speaker 2>what your dad was telling me when we were thirteen. Yeah,

1485
01:14:58.840 --> 01:15:01.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, and like you gotta believe is it's you know,

1486
01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:03.079
<v Speaker 2>if you don't believe, you won't see it.

1487
01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:06.199
<v Speaker 3>I feel like there's a bit of like a misconception

1488
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:10.399
<v Speaker 3>in those kinds, in that kind of coming from someone

1489
01:15:10.399 --> 01:15:13.239
<v Speaker 3>who is like a big skeptic, I feel like that

1490
01:15:13.239 --> 01:15:16.159
<v Speaker 3>that kind of way of thinking about it always kind

1491
01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:17.399
<v Speaker 3>of put me off it a little bit.

1492
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:22.399
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's kind of by design a little bit, probably, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1493
01:15:22.439 --> 01:15:24.319
<v Speaker 1>it's probably got to do a little bit of the work.

1494
01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:27.119
<v Speaker 1>You gotta take that step towards the light, towards the truth,

1495
01:15:27.159 --> 01:15:27.359
<v Speaker 1>you know.

1496
01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:29.680
<v Speaker 3>But because for me, it's like less because I think

1497
01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:32.279
<v Speaker 3>the I don't know if it's just it's probably I

1498
01:15:32.279 --> 01:15:36.800
<v Speaker 3>don't know how to explain this, Like it's not like

1499
01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:40.439
<v Speaker 3>you have to even believe in the sense that you're like,

1500
01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:42.479
<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, I believe it's going to happen tonight. It's

1501
01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:45.399
<v Speaker 3>it's for me, it's less about believing it's going to

1502
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:50.000
<v Speaker 3>happen and more about just not It's like it's like

1503
01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:51.800
<v Speaker 3>the kind of the almost the opposite where it's like

1504
01:15:51.840 --> 01:15:53.800
<v Speaker 3>it's not believing that something's going to happen, it's not,

1505
01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:56.159
<v Speaker 3>it's just not being completely closed.

1506
01:15:55.800 --> 01:15:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Off to it.

1507
01:15:56.600 --> 01:15:59.239
<v Speaker 3>You believing that it could happen, believe not even believing

1508
01:15:59.239 --> 01:16:02.079
<v Speaker 3>that it could, just not disbelieving that it could ever happened.

1509
01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:04.439
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know what I mean, Yeah, being open to it.

1510
01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. That's exactly how my dad describes it. Yeah, like,

1511
01:16:08.680 --> 01:16:10.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, just be open to it. Just just the

1512
01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:13.479
<v Speaker 1>thing he always says is like, don't inject doubt. Doubt

1513
01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:16.479
<v Speaker 1>will push it away. Just be open, just you know,

1514
01:16:16.920 --> 01:16:19.000
<v Speaker 1>or like Monroe always says, I think this is genius.

1515
01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:22.119
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I would, you know, I would go to

1516
01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:26.239
<v Speaker 1>great lengths to say that it's brilliant. And they say,

1517
01:16:26.520 --> 01:16:28.079
<v Speaker 1>be curious.

1518
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:29.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, that's.

1519
01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Like one of their taglines, like be curious, explore, you know,

1520
01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:36.600
<v Speaker 1>go find out for yourself, be curious. Yeah, why can't

1521
01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:36.960
<v Speaker 1>why not?

1522
01:16:37.239 --> 01:16:40.760
<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, when we when we were kids twelve

1523
01:16:40.760 --> 01:16:43.800
<v Speaker 2>and thirteen, I was very scared of this whole conversation

1524
01:16:43.880 --> 01:16:47.399
<v Speaker 2>at first, because I mean it was very it was

1525
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:51.199
<v Speaker 2>super early into all of it. This was pre twenty twelve,

1526
01:16:51.239 --> 01:16:55.479
<v Speaker 2>pre the Lady, pre a lot of the spiritual context

1527
01:16:55.600 --> 01:16:56.640
<v Speaker 2>that we now.

1528
01:16:56.800 --> 01:16:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Or really just most of the context. It was just

1529
01:16:59.279 --> 01:16:59.960
<v Speaker 1>raw experience.

1530
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:03.079
<v Speaker 2>It was really just the river experience and then just

1531
01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:07.000
<v Speaker 2>raw experiences at your house. That was all that had happened.

1532
01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:11.000
<v Speaker 2>And so for me, being like just a good little

1533
01:17:11.039 --> 01:17:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Christian boy at the time, never you know, knowing about

1534
01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:16.359
<v Speaker 2>any of this stuff, it was scary. It was scary

1535
01:17:16.399 --> 01:17:20.239
<v Speaker 2>for me, and but I had the curiosity of like, well,

1536
01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:22.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're all seeing it, like I want to

1537
01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:23.760
<v Speaker 2>see what's up, but.

1538
01:17:23.720 --> 01:17:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I was afraid that you're scared of it. But a

1539
01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:29.119
<v Speaker 1>part of you has that door slightly open.

1540
01:17:29.439 --> 01:17:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so then every time, you know, I would

1541
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:35.159
<v Speaker 2>talk to to Ryan's dad and he would just be like,

1542
01:17:35.319 --> 01:17:38.960
<v Speaker 2>you gotta gotta let go. There's no reason to be afraid.

1543
01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:41.680
<v Speaker 2>You have to like just believe a little bit. You

1544
01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:44.840
<v Speaker 2>gotta like believe that. Be open to it. He said

1545
01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:47.079
<v Speaker 2>that so many times, be open to it. Be open

1546
01:17:47.119 --> 01:17:50.359
<v Speaker 2>to it. And it took a while, but eventually I think,

1547
01:17:50.840 --> 01:17:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, some of the fear may be melted

1548
01:17:52.640 --> 01:17:55.920
<v Speaker 2>away or something. And it just started happening, and it

1549
01:17:56.000 --> 01:18:00.359
<v Speaker 2>was like it's like momentum builds. It's strange, it's almost

1550
01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:02.840
<v Speaker 2>out of your control. Once it starts. It's like just

1551
01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:06.640
<v Speaker 2>starts building momentum and going and going and going. But

1552
01:18:06.720 --> 01:18:09.680
<v Speaker 2>it is fascinating how it's such a it seems to

1553
01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:15.199
<v Speaker 2>be such a personal experience. Yeah, yeah, you know, And

1554
01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:18.560
<v Speaker 2>that's trippy that that's one of the trippy parts about it.

1555
01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:21.279
<v Speaker 2>Because one thing, if we're all just observing something in

1556
01:18:21.319 --> 01:18:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the sky, right, but the element of it that's like,

1557
01:18:24.880 --> 01:18:27.840
<v Speaker 2>well that thing in the sky is connected directly to you.

1558
01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:33.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like that part of it is trippy. Yeah, but

1559
01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:35.800
<v Speaker 2>people have the hardest time with that, and it may

1560
01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:37.840
<v Speaker 2>be the most important part of it. Yeah.

1561
01:18:38.119 --> 01:18:40.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, something I just thought about while you were

1562
01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:42.720
<v Speaker 1>explaining how you were so scared as a kid. You

1563
01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:44.680
<v Speaker 1>were a good Christian boy. And it's like, if you

1564
01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:47.119
<v Speaker 1>back up and you think about it, the people and

1565
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:49.359
<v Speaker 1>this is true in all the comments we get and

1566
01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:53.119
<v Speaker 1>the ridicule, in the humiliation that we've received from family

1567
01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and people in our community growing up like far before

1568
01:18:56.039 --> 01:18:58.439
<v Speaker 1>we were even you know, public, and the way that

1569
01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:01.479
<v Speaker 1>we are now. But the people that always have the

1570
01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:06.119
<v Speaker 1>strongest and harshest and most brutal pushback to this knowledge,

1571
01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:08.760
<v Speaker 1>to this story, to anything that's happening in our you

1572
01:19:08.760 --> 01:19:12.960
<v Speaker 1>know sphere are very religious people, for sure. Yeah, And

1573
01:19:13.239 --> 01:19:15.119
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of weird when you think about it, because

1574
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:17.760
<v Speaker 1>you would think that the very religious people are the

1575
01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:21.119
<v Speaker 1>most confident and not afraid of the spirit world. Right,

1576
01:19:21.159 --> 01:19:23.119
<v Speaker 1>They're at peace with God. They're supposed to be like,

1577
01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:26.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've got this pretty well figured out, right,

1578
01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:28.600
<v Speaker 1>But you know, the more you think about it and

1579
01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:31.439
<v Speaker 1>you peel that back, it's like they're really the most traumatized,

1580
01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:35.239
<v Speaker 1>the most terrified of the spirit world. You know, it's

1581
01:19:35.239 --> 01:19:37.720
<v Speaker 1>got to be demonic and angels ain't real. But the

1582
01:19:37.720 --> 01:19:41.119
<v Speaker 1>demons are surely the ones that are constantly manifesting for

1583
01:19:41.159 --> 01:19:43.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody to see. But the angels, nah, they don't have power.

1584
01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:45.560
<v Speaker 1>They're not shown up in our world.

1585
01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that part of it is strange, isn't it. But

1586
01:19:48.720 --> 01:19:53.039
<v Speaker 2>it's weird to be inherent with a lot of religious

1587
01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:57.640
<v Speaker 2>fault at least I would say, like it with it

1588
01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:01.399
<v Speaker 2>comes this. There can't just be like a faith. I

1589
01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:03.720
<v Speaker 2>mean it should be that way, right, but a lot

1590
01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:06.920
<v Speaker 2>of religious people I find a lot of very outwardly

1591
01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:11.000
<v Speaker 2>religious people. I should say, there's not just a faith thing.

1592
01:20:11.199 --> 01:20:16.119
<v Speaker 2>There's also this attack element to it, where it's like

1593
01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:20.199
<v Speaker 2>anything that is not exactly what I believe, I have

1594
01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:21.520
<v Speaker 2>to attack it, like.

1595
01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:25.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like just tribalism, and it's it is it is.

1596
01:20:26.039 --> 01:20:27.119
<v Speaker 1>We do that with everything.

1597
01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:29.680
<v Speaker 3>We humans do it football teams.

1598
01:20:29.720 --> 01:20:32.279
<v Speaker 2>I was literally gonna I call it the football mentality.

1599
01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:35.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like we do it with our politics, we do

1600
01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:37.199
<v Speaker 2>it with everything. It's like if if you're not on

1601
01:20:37.239 --> 01:20:40.439
<v Speaker 2>my team, then you're on the other team, and like

1602
01:20:40.479 --> 01:20:47.680
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna fight, that's it. Yeah, yeah, it is. It

1603
01:20:47.720 --> 01:20:52.399
<v Speaker 2>really is like old ancient tribalism, caveman type mentality stuff,

1604
01:20:52.439 --> 01:20:55.560
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, hey, like you're not a caveman anymore, dude,

1605
01:20:55.720 --> 01:20:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Like we can all think freely and you don't got

1606
01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:01.920
<v Speaker 2>to be like attacking, which an ironic part of it

1607
01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:07.199
<v Speaker 2>is that's typically against what most religions believe in their

1608
01:21:07.359 --> 01:21:08.920
<v Speaker 2>actual texts. Yeah.

1609
01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:11.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just all about like, well most of it

1610
01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:12.399
<v Speaker 3>is like about.

1611
01:21:12.199 --> 01:21:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Like just being chill, being chill, looking inwards, chill. It's

1612
01:21:17.359 --> 01:21:20.439
<v Speaker 2>not like you know, and you ask some of these

1613
01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:24.039
<v Speaker 2>people like it's like why are you You ask people

1614
01:21:24.079 --> 01:21:26.680
<v Speaker 2>like why are you doing this? Oh, you have to testify.

1615
01:21:27.159 --> 01:21:29.399
<v Speaker 2>You have to testify. The Bible tells us we have

1616
01:21:29.439 --> 01:21:34.439
<v Speaker 2>to testify against this. It's like that's a stretch. Testifying

1617
01:21:34.520 --> 01:21:37.560
<v Speaker 2>is one thing, like condemning people to their face, and

1618
01:21:37.640 --> 01:21:41.880
<v Speaker 2>like attacking people is a completely different thing. Yeah, you know,

1619
01:21:42.239 --> 01:21:44.039
<v Speaker 2>for sure, it's an ironic thing.

1620
01:21:44.880 --> 01:21:47.920
<v Speaker 1>It is. It is. It's almost like a paradox, but.

1621
01:21:47.960 --> 01:21:49.640
<v Speaker 2>It is because I think it ends up having the

1622
01:21:49.640 --> 01:21:54.279
<v Speaker 2>opposite effect that these people think they wish it would

1623
01:21:54.279 --> 01:21:54.960
<v Speaker 2>have on people.

1624
01:21:55.119 --> 01:21:58.479
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think in reality, the very very super

1625
01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:02.680
<v Speaker 1>overly religious are the most afraid of the spiritual world.

1626
01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:06.399
<v Speaker 1>They're they're every and and I know this from experience.

1627
01:22:06.399 --> 01:22:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not like I was this as a child and

1628
01:22:08.920 --> 01:22:11.319
<v Speaker 1>growing up and then you know, I started having these

1629
01:22:11.359 --> 01:22:14.199
<v Speaker 1>experiences and I broke free. But I feel like the

1630
01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:18.159
<v Speaker 1>people that are extremely overly religious and all of their

1631
01:22:18.159 --> 01:22:25.439
<v Speaker 1>communication with God in whatever form they imagine, is constantly

1632
01:22:26.640 --> 01:22:30.239
<v Speaker 1>just like a request to escape damnation, like you know,

1633
01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:33.199
<v Speaker 1>please forgive me, please, you know, please add you know,

1634
01:22:33.319 --> 01:22:35.399
<v Speaker 1>or it's the opposite, is egotistical and I'm a better

1635
01:22:35.479 --> 01:22:37.479
<v Speaker 1>Christian than you, but you know, and that's a whole

1636
01:22:37.520 --> 01:22:40.760
<v Speaker 1>nother story, right, But anyway, that's that's a strange tangent.

1637
01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:42.279
<v Speaker 1>But I just kind of had a realization while you

1638
01:22:42.319 --> 01:22:43.119
<v Speaker 1>were telling that story.

1639
01:22:43.159 --> 01:22:49.880
<v Speaker 5>But can I just say, at least Infinite and especially

1640
01:22:49.960 --> 01:22:56.399
<v Speaker 5>the first album they called out like the religious color

1641
01:22:56.600 --> 01:22:59.680
<v Speaker 5>Ish and ped Defiles.

1642
01:23:06.720 --> 01:23:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh no, you said, you said, cool,

1643
01:23:09.600 --> 01:23:11.920
<v Speaker 1>we'll just we'll just we'll agree that you did.

1644
01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:18.680
<v Speaker 5>Definitely meant you know, at least, no matter how extreme

1645
01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:23.199
<v Speaker 5>Infinite are, And you know, like I think at the

1646
01:23:23.319 --> 01:23:28.760
<v Speaker 5>end of the day that them high lying really insane

1647
01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:33.039
<v Speaker 5>things that go on with religion or not even religion.

1648
01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:37.479
<v Speaker 5>Now fucking Jeffrey Epstein, you know, a client list and

1649
01:23:37.520 --> 01:23:38.640
<v Speaker 5>all that ship.

1650
01:23:39.399 --> 01:23:43.800
<v Speaker 3>That none of that actually happened, of course happened, didn't exist.

1651
01:23:44.119 --> 01:23:48.359
<v Speaker 5>They high light in such an extreme way. And you know,

1652
01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:52.279
<v Speaker 5>even with the extreme band name, it's just one of

1653
01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:58.359
<v Speaker 5>those things by you know, it's you're rebelling against it

1654
01:23:58.760 --> 01:24:00.319
<v Speaker 5>by high lying in a m h.

1655
01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1656
01:24:03.800 --> 01:24:06.680
<v Speaker 1>See that's an interesting perspective because and I'm glad we're

1657
01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:08.199
<v Speaker 1>going this way. I think it's a great place to

1658
01:24:08.279 --> 01:24:11.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of wind down and sort of I think I'm

1659
01:24:11.199 --> 01:24:13.199
<v Speaker 1>on my uh, I think I'm on my Red Riding

1660
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Hood era for the moment.

1661
01:24:14.680 --> 01:24:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Red Corning Hood.

1662
01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Assassin's cream called Assassin's cream corn getting shucked and creamed.

1663
01:24:26.520 --> 01:24:30.319
<v Speaker 1>But do you ever have dreams? You're Spider Man? You

1664
01:24:30.359 --> 01:24:32.279
<v Speaker 1>shoot webs? Yes all the time?

1665
01:24:32.359 --> 01:24:34.720
<v Speaker 3>Right, yes, one of my I always have dreams when

1666
01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:35.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm shooting.

1667
01:24:35.199 --> 01:24:40.399
<v Speaker 2>Web Yeah, one of my Lucid dreams. Actually a few

1668
01:24:40.399 --> 01:24:42.800
<v Speaker 2>of them. I think, what my first ever time that

1669
01:24:42.840 --> 01:24:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I Lucid dreamed. The first thing that I did was

1670
01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:47.439
<v Speaker 2>shoot webs like Spider Man. The first thing I did.

1671
01:24:47.319 --> 01:24:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, every time.

1672
01:24:48.359 --> 01:24:50.439
<v Speaker 2>The first time I ever Loocid dreamed. I was like,

1673
01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm dreaming, and I was just.

1674
01:24:52.479 --> 01:24:54.479
<v Speaker 1>Like, I had a vivid dream the other night. I

1675
01:24:54.560 --> 01:24:56.279
<v Speaker 1>was beaming webs and I woke up. I was like,

1676
01:24:57.840 --> 01:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I woke up. This was like the other night and

1677
01:24:59.800 --> 01:25:01.399
<v Speaker 1>I woke up and I was like, I really do

1678
01:25:01.479 --> 01:25:04.520
<v Speaker 1>wish I possessed that power, you know, to be able

1679
01:25:04.600 --> 01:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>to just shoot webs. It would be you so sick,

1680
01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:10.279
<v Speaker 1>but like the Toby version. But right, Yeah, anyway, I'm

1681
01:25:10.319 --> 01:25:12.319
<v Speaker 1>glad we're what's that?

1682
01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh, no, we're here. We're yeah, I'm with you. I'm

1683
01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:17.560
<v Speaker 2>with you.

1684
01:25:17.600 --> 01:25:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Did I miss a transmission?

1685
01:25:19.039 --> 01:25:19.079
<v Speaker 5>No?

1686
01:25:19.279 --> 01:25:21.279
<v Speaker 2>Man, We're just talking about how good you shoot your webs?

1687
01:25:21.399 --> 01:25:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1688
01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:23.399
<v Speaker 3>Mine get real sticky at night time.

1689
01:25:23.479 --> 01:25:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're great at it.

1690
01:25:24.399 --> 01:25:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about from my hands. We are too well.

1691
01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:31.199
<v Speaker 1>I think that somewhere our wires got crossed. So I'm

1692
01:25:31.199 --> 01:25:33.439
<v Speaker 1>going to transition back to what we were fading into

1693
01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:36.239
<v Speaker 1>because I just like, I think that this this does

1694
01:25:36.399 --> 01:25:40.079
<v Speaker 1>require some attention, because obviously people don't tune into our ship.

1695
01:25:40.079 --> 01:25:43.199
<v Speaker 1>We're not a metal show. We are whatever we want

1696
01:25:43.239 --> 01:25:45.279
<v Speaker 1>to be. We have whatever guests we want to have.

1697
01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Nick and I are very passionate about metal. Uh, so

1698
01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:51.319
<v Speaker 1>we'll have somebody on who is in the metal. You know,

1699
01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:53.520
<v Speaker 1>we're passionate about anime. We'll have somebody on who's in

1700
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the anime, we're passionate about video games. We'll have somebody

1701
01:25:56.600 --> 01:25:58.199
<v Speaker 1>who's been a videogame. We talk about whatever we want

1702
01:25:58.239 --> 01:25:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to talk about. And there's a lot of our fan

1703
01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>base that they don't give a shit about metal. Okay,

1704
01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>they're ordinary people. They're seeking very spiritual things. They're enjoying,

1705
01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:09.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, a wide variety of conversations that we're having

1706
01:26:09.399 --> 01:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>with people. So I think, like, for those people at home,

1707
01:26:12.840 --> 01:26:16.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm just imagining they're going they're finding if an annihilated

1708
01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:18.159
<v Speaker 1>at the googling the lyrics and like what the fuck?

1709
01:26:18.399 --> 01:26:20.119
<v Speaker 1>They have gone off the deep end. So I was

1710
01:26:20.159 --> 01:26:25.199
<v Speaker 1>wondering if you had any sort of clarity to provide

1711
01:26:25.439 --> 01:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>towards people out there who just wouldn't don't stand, just

1712
01:26:28.720 --> 01:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>don't get it. Yeah, like, well what's the point you know?

1713
01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah?

1714
01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean originally before our like I was a

1715
01:26:38.039 --> 01:26:41.880
<v Speaker 3>lot younger when we started the band basically, and originally

1716
01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:43.479
<v Speaker 3>it was just kind of well, first of all, we

1717
01:26:43.479 --> 01:26:45.560
<v Speaker 3>didn't think that anyone would even listen to it, so

1718
01:26:45.640 --> 01:26:49.319
<v Speaker 3>it was just kind of the mindset going into it

1719
01:26:49.359 --> 01:26:51.640
<v Speaker 3>was like, we want to write the most extreme music

1720
01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:53.199
<v Speaker 3>instrumentally as possible.

1721
01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:56.119
<v Speaker 1>You achieved that right from the beginning.

1722
01:26:57.079 --> 01:27:00.319
<v Speaker 3>Thank you. I don't know about that, but it was cool.

1723
01:27:00.560 --> 01:27:05.039
<v Speaker 3>It was a fun time anyway. The point is the lyrics,

1724
01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:08.359
<v Speaker 3>we thought, you know, they should be what's the most

1725
01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:10.880
<v Speaker 3>like Musically, We're like, what's the most extreme music we

1726
01:27:11.239 --> 01:27:14.359
<v Speaker 3>can write? And then lyrically, what's the most extreme lyrics

1727
01:27:14.439 --> 01:27:18.800
<v Speaker 3>that you can talk about? What's the most like brutal

1728
01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:19.640
<v Speaker 3>thing that there is?

1729
01:27:19.880 --> 01:27:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1730
01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:24.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know the band name is the Clue.

1731
01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:28.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a clue. It is.

1732
01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:31.119
<v Speaker 3>So at first it was just kind of the it

1733
01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:33.960
<v Speaker 3>was like, what would you call it, like.

1734
01:27:36.159 --> 01:27:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Just like the shock factor of it?

1735
01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, basically just kind of like a very shocking

1736
01:27:43.359 --> 01:27:45.239
<v Speaker 1>can we be? Yeah, how over the top can you

1737
01:27:45.319 --> 01:27:47.439
<v Speaker 1>get you're explaining? Yeah, how over the top? How ridiculous

1738
01:27:47.439 --> 01:27:49.279
<v Speaker 1>you're explaining to me? It's like it's like a horror movie.

1739
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Yea.

1740
01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:53.039
<v Speaker 1>And I asked this. I wanted to talk about this

1741
01:27:53.359 --> 01:27:55.439
<v Speaker 1>just because that there are people who I think that

1742
01:27:56.119 --> 01:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>take this And again I say this from experience growing

1743
01:27:58.840 --> 01:28:00.479
<v Speaker 1>up around people who are very really just you know,

1744
01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and and some people read this stuff and they take

1745
01:28:02.680 --> 01:28:04.439
<v Speaker 1>it literally and they're like, oh my god, these people

1746
01:28:04.439 --> 01:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>are really into this ship, you know what I'm saying.

1747
01:28:06.279 --> 01:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think anyway, so.

1748
01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:11.039
<v Speaker 3>That's a really good thing, the horror movie thing, because

1749
01:28:11.039 --> 01:28:14.039
<v Speaker 3>it's like, you know, regardless of what we write about,

1750
01:28:14.079 --> 01:28:16.479
<v Speaker 3>you know, it is it's at the end of the day. Yeah,

1751
01:28:16.520 --> 01:28:19.600
<v Speaker 3>and it is horrible ship. Some of the stuff, like

1752
01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:23.560
<v Speaker 3>if you're not into metal, for one, don't read it.

1753
01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:27.760
<v Speaker 3>If you actually no, let me scratch that. Just don't

1754
01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:33.039
<v Speaker 3>read the lyrics. Don't do it to yourself. There's no point.

1755
01:28:33.680 --> 01:28:34.760
<v Speaker 3>You won't find enjoyment.

1756
01:28:36.079 --> 01:28:38.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, part of the funny thing is and it's a

1757
01:28:38.399 --> 01:28:40.399
<v Speaker 2>meme with metal, but it's like, oh, what the hell

1758
01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:42.279
<v Speaker 2>are they saying? Yeah, but it's like, if you're doing

1759
01:28:42.319 --> 01:28:46.439
<v Speaker 2>such guttural noises that there's no understanding and stuff, yeah,

1760
01:28:46.479 --> 01:28:48.600
<v Speaker 2>without reading the lyrics, then sure, let's just make the

1761
01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:52.159
<v Speaker 2>lyrics like the most insane shit anyway, why not, nobody's

1762
01:28:52.159 --> 01:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna know what we're saying unless it's funny.

1763
01:28:53.720 --> 01:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>That was really funny. Scratch that's legendary.

1764
01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:02.359
<v Speaker 3>So it's like a horror film, like just because you know,

1765
01:29:02.479 --> 01:29:04.920
<v Speaker 3>someone makes a super gary horror movie doesn't mean that

1766
01:29:04.920 --> 01:29:06.079
<v Speaker 3>they're like a murderer.

1767
01:29:06.319 --> 01:29:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

1768
01:29:08.640 --> 01:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that's very well said.

1769
01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Of horror movies and horror directors out there. They're not

1770
01:29:13.680 --> 01:29:17.600
<v Speaker 2>like all a bunch of psychopathic murderer people who are

1771
01:29:17.640 --> 01:29:19.479
<v Speaker 2>in They're just like it's like it's.

1772
01:29:19.439 --> 01:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Art, well, you know, and and and the only reason

1773
01:29:23.680 --> 01:29:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I even wanted to talk about this in the first

1774
01:29:25.119 --> 01:29:28.079
<v Speaker 1>place is for for the very lowest common denominator, like

1775
01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:30.199
<v Speaker 1>very general person who's out there and they're hearing this,

1776
01:29:30.359 --> 01:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's just like I I felt like,

1777
01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:38.159
<v Speaker 1>I felt like, uh, you know what, what an interesting

1778
01:29:38.239 --> 01:29:41.359
<v Speaker 1>perspective to like hear the thought process from you, you know,

1779
01:29:41.399 --> 01:29:45.399
<v Speaker 1>from the mind that's that's making this music. Again, I

1780
01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:47.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm thrown away the key. I just locked my lips.

1781
01:29:47.800 --> 01:29:47.920
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

1782
01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>People will just have to very patiently wait for the

1783
01:29:51.800 --> 01:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>new album, you know what, and that and and and

1784
01:29:58.039 --> 01:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, it's I'm trying to think. I'm trying to

1785
01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:02.199
<v Speaker 1>of how to say things without giving away anything, you

1786
01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. But it's incredible and I don't

1787
01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>think anybody will really be able to deny that, you know,

1788
01:30:10.199 --> 01:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>in this in this space, you.

1789
01:30:11.680 --> 01:30:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Know, like it's there's no preparing for it.

1790
01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:19.319
<v Speaker 1>No, No, it's unbelievable. And I hope it's okay. And

1791
01:30:19.359 --> 01:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>if you don't want me to say this, I'll cut

1792
01:30:20.920 --> 01:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>it happily. But I think it's very high art.

1793
01:30:23.640 --> 01:30:24.039
<v Speaker 2>I think.

1794
01:30:24.760 --> 01:30:27.479
<v Speaker 1>I think that the vibe you're going for is just

1795
01:30:28.279 --> 01:30:32.359
<v Speaker 1>shockingly just great. And whatever you were going for, you

1796
01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:34.079
<v Speaker 1>nailed it and people are gonna love it.

1797
01:30:34.640 --> 01:30:35.359
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it.

1798
01:30:35.399 --> 01:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>And if that's cool, then yeah, I don't really, I'm

1799
01:30:39.000 --> 01:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>at peace. I think that's a great place to a piece.

1800
01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:43.840
<v Speaker 2>You're at piece. You kind of look like a corn

1801
01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:50.800
<v Speaker 2>like monk or something, right now, make you worship some corn?

1802
01:30:53.840 --> 01:30:54.079
<v Speaker 5>Wow?

1803
01:30:54.199 --> 01:30:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Man?

1804
01:30:56.800 --> 01:30:59.159
<v Speaker 1>Yea, was that embarrassing?

1805
01:30:59.359 --> 01:31:03.439
<v Speaker 2>No, it was really cool. I think do you feel embarrassed?

1806
01:31:04.520 --> 01:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel free, you know, yeah? I feel good.

1807
01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you feel like you're free as well.

1808
01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:10.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1809
01:31:10.760 --> 01:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>And that's a decree from a pie from the crown

1810
01:31:13.640 --> 01:31:17.359
<v Speaker 1>to the free. Yeah, last question for last question. And

1811
01:31:17.359 --> 01:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>we've tortured you enough. We've we've made you toilet labor,

1812
01:31:20.960 --> 01:31:21.600
<v Speaker 1>loved minute.

1813
01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:22.840
<v Speaker 3>It's been awesome. Thanks for having me.

1814
01:31:22.920 --> 01:31:24.159
<v Speaker 2>It's been really cool, our pleasure.

1815
01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I hope that it's been fun. I hope it's been

1816
01:31:26.720 --> 01:31:30.399
<v Speaker 1>just like care free and like totally just a good time.

1817
01:31:30.439 --> 01:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's really at the end of the day.

1818
01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:32.840
<v Speaker 1>That's all we're trying to do.

1819
01:31:34.199 --> 01:31:36.600
<v Speaker 2>But well, oh yeah, thank you, thank you.

1820
01:31:36.680 --> 01:31:39.479
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to Helen Big shout out best cooking all

1821
01:31:39.479 --> 01:31:39.920
<v Speaker 3>of England.

1822
01:31:41.119 --> 01:31:45.199
<v Speaker 1>The truth, that's a fact. The Sunday Dinner Queen again,

1823
01:31:45.880 --> 01:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Sunday tea.

1824
01:31:46.680 --> 01:31:48.119
<v Speaker 2>No, she said, Sunday dinner.

1825
01:31:49.199 --> 01:31:56.079
<v Speaker 1>She said herself, Hey, tonight, it's lunch, you know, And

1826
01:31:56.199 --> 01:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I keep.

1827
01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:01.520
<v Speaker 4>Correct you people.

1828
01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:04.479
<v Speaker 2>Sorry for stepping on your final question.

1829
01:32:06.840 --> 01:32:11.479
<v Speaker 1>That is kind of me right now. Actually now I'm embarrassed. Okay, anyway,

1830
01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:14.159
<v Speaker 1>this is something I do like to ask guests. This

1831
01:32:14.199 --> 01:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>is just a if I remember, I don't always bet.

1832
01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I try to remember, you know, and I ask everybody this.

1833
01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>But if you just like had the attention of everybody

1834
01:32:24.159 --> 01:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and you felt like there was something on your mind

1835
01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:29.079
<v Speaker 1>or on your heart that you just feel like you

1836
01:32:29.399 --> 01:32:31.119
<v Speaker 1>want people to know. You know, what is it that

1837
01:32:31.159 --> 01:32:35.039
<v Speaker 1>you feel like you want to leave people with before

1838
01:32:35.079 --> 01:32:37.039
<v Speaker 1>you leave the earth? You know, your most important little

1839
01:32:37.319 --> 01:32:40.439
<v Speaker 1>nugget of wisdom, Like what would that be.

1840
01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:42.279
<v Speaker 3>Kind of wish you'd have asked me this before, so

1841
01:32:42.319 --> 01:32:43.399
<v Speaker 3>I could have prepared something.

1842
01:32:43.760 --> 01:32:46.239
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have to be that deep, you know, that's

1843
01:32:46.239 --> 01:32:47.039
<v Speaker 1>a big question.

1844
01:32:47.159 --> 01:32:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Holy shit.

1845
01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:50.119
<v Speaker 1>You know we got to drop some heat at the

1846
01:32:50.199 --> 01:32:53.279
<v Speaker 1>end of every episode, throwing the before you leave the

1847
01:32:53.319 --> 01:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Earth bit on their ways. I started doing that with Kyle. Actually, yeah,

1848
01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I did kind of transform the guy a little dramatic. Well,

1849
01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>we got to meet the quota quota, you know, of

1850
01:33:04.319 --> 01:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>being dramatic of little interesting tidbits, you'd meet a little

1851
01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>interesting too.

1852
01:33:11.600 --> 01:33:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Little interesting.

1853
01:33:13.279 --> 01:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it doesn't have to be that deep, man,

1854
01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's you know, like what's important to you, you know,

1855
01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>like what would you want to leave people? It's like, hey,

1856
01:33:19.560 --> 01:33:22.119
<v Speaker 1>you gotta believe me, man, what is it? I'm not

1857
01:33:22.279 --> 01:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>viewing orb think it could be one word, it could

1858
01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:27.119
<v Speaker 1>be twenty.

1859
01:33:27.279 --> 01:33:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it would be like a message to my past self,

1860
01:33:29.520 --> 01:33:32.720
<v Speaker 3>who was like a super hard nose skeptic about everything. Uh,

1861
01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:36.479
<v Speaker 3>don't be a dick for one and two. Just like,

1862
01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:39.439
<v Speaker 3>just because you've heard it repeated a million times by

1863
01:33:39.840 --> 01:33:44.239
<v Speaker 3>people in authority means shit all it means nothing. Look

1864
01:33:44.279 --> 01:33:47.960
<v Speaker 3>into stuff yourself. If you've got an intuition about something,

1865
01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:52.319
<v Speaker 3>don't ignore it. Look into stuff that you think is cool.

1866
01:33:52.520 --> 01:33:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Don't know what anyone else thinks. Don't think about what

1867
01:33:55.960 --> 01:33:59.000
<v Speaker 3>anyone else's reactions or thoughts are going to be about something.

1868
01:33:59.159 --> 01:34:00.760
<v Speaker 3>Just do whatever the hell you as long as it's

1869
01:34:00.760 --> 01:34:03.520
<v Speaker 3>not having someone else. Yeah, just have a cool time

1870
01:34:03.640 --> 01:34:04.199
<v Speaker 3>all the time.

1871
01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:06.039
<v Speaker 2>That's it, right there.

1872
01:34:06.159 --> 01:34:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Can't top that, That's it? Can you know what hats on?

1873
01:34:10.720 --> 01:34:13.199
<v Speaker 2>Come on now, don come on Don Mobler?

1874
01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:19.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, that that that was deep. So, uh thank

1875
01:34:19.439 --> 01:34:23.439
<v Speaker 1>you and uh we love you, We love both of you,

1876
01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:26.359
<v Speaker 1>both your wonderful people. Yes, you now have a home

1877
01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>in America. Uh well in two states, I guess, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with your other friends. But anyway, here in

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, you're part of our family. You guys are awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are freaking awesome. Bye guys, Bye guys.

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