Speaker 1: Let's continue now, Billy Cunningham, the Great America, And of
Speaker 1: course on the southern border, there's only one reporter I
Speaker 1: check in with from News Nation, that's Ali Bradley about
Speaker 1: what's happening in media reports that there's been a ninety
Speaker 1: five percent reduction in border crossings. Media is reporting is
Speaker 1: about six hundred a day. Many are Mexicans who can
Speaker 1: immediately be returned to Mexico. Some others have to be
Speaker 1: in a detention camp until Columbia or someone else decides
Speaker 1: to come pick them up. And as the crisis over,
Speaker 1: is everything hunky dory wire fenting on off be a
Speaker 1: problem as human trafficking done. A woman with all the
Speaker 1: answers is Ali Bradley on the Southern Border with the
Speaker 1: News Nation. Ali Bradley, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And where does life find you today? If there's not
Speaker 1: much to report on, I'm told by the media everything's great,
Speaker 1: is it true?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Hey, Bill, thanks for having me. I'm down here
Speaker 2: in Ego Paths staring at Shelby Park. A lot of
Speaker 2: movement down here with Texas Military Governor Abbit making some
Speaker 2: more moves expand operations down here. So you know you
Speaker 2: talk about, hey, we're only looking at you know, around
Speaker 2: six hundred encounters a day at border patrol, six hundred
Speaker 2: and fourteen encounters yesterday. Four hundred and twelve of them
Speaker 2: were from Mexico. As you just mentioned, that's hot off
Speaker 2: the precess from a source. I'm looking at numbers right now.
Speaker 2: Eighty nine of them are from Guatemala, sixty four were
Speaker 2: from Honduras. So we're looking at a lot of northern triangle.
Speaker 2: What's wild is will only see twelve people from Venezuela,
Speaker 2: Bill when we were seeing thousands of people from Venezuela.
Speaker 2: Of course, that's a nationality that's kind of been targeted
Speaker 2: by the Trump administration because of Trende Ragua, which is
Speaker 2: that very violent gang that kind of sprung out of
Speaker 2: Venezuela and is now present in what Tony Gonzalez represented.
Speaker 2: Tony Gonzalez down here in Texas believes is they're present
Speaker 2: in all fifty states, right, So they're seeing these numbers
Speaker 2: absolutely plummet. But here's the issue. Don't let your guard down,
Speaker 2: don't turn your eyes off the border, because we saw
Speaker 2: something very similar at the end of Title forty two.
Speaker 2: You'll recall this and the reason why is it takes
Speaker 2: time for the cartel to see how we're doing things.
Speaker 2: The cartel, according to Congress, is a thirteen billion dollars
Speaker 2: a year industry just smuggling human beings into our country illegally.
Speaker 2: So you think they're just going to stop, You think
Speaker 2: they're going to give up because Trump's in office, they're
Speaker 2: seeing what we're doing. At the end of Title forty two,
Speaker 2: my Orci has stood up there and said all these
Speaker 2: scary things about how guess what Title eight is going
Speaker 2: to be in place, because that's the removal authority that
Speaker 2: is currently in place, was in place before Title forty
Speaker 2: two was put back in place. After Title forty two,
Speaker 2: which came with a five year ban, five thousand dollars fine,
Speaker 2: and ineligibility for asylum that was actually on the books
Speaker 2: in place under Biden over the last year, but not
Speaker 2: in force. They were doing catch and release right where
Speaker 2: seeing these notices to appear dulled out every single day
Speaker 2: to the tune of thirty three hundred back in January
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three. Fast forward, we're seeing a handful
Speaker 2: of notices to appear right now because they have to
Speaker 2: give them out to Son on the company children and
Speaker 2: some family units have extreme cases. So there are still
Speaker 2: some that are going to be given out. But the
Speaker 2: cartel is waiting to see what we do. How are
Speaker 2: we enforcing this law? Are we turning them right back around?
Speaker 2: What are we doing at the end of Title forty two,
Speaker 2: We did not turn people back around, We did not
Speaker 2: enforce Title eight. We let them in. So what happened
Speaker 2: December twenty twenty three, three hundred thousand plus people ended
Speaker 2: up crossing our southern border, the record breaking number that
Speaker 2: we saw. That was again when we kind of said, ah,
Speaker 2: the border secure, right, it's quiet down, everything's kind of fixed. No,
Speaker 2: the cartel takes time to pivot when the US pivot.
Speaker 2: So that's why I'm saying, don't take your focus off
Speaker 2: of the border just yet. Yes, all the chaos is
Speaker 2: in the interior right now with these targeted enforcement operations,
Speaker 2: but the reality is the cartel is moving down. You're
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to get those thousands of
Speaker 2: people number one that we've kicked back over and a
Speaker 2: lot of them they pay the cartel once they get
Speaker 2: three shots to cross, Okay, So they go back to
Speaker 2: their plaza bus friend and say hey, cross me over
Speaker 2: through the river. I'll evade this time, or all end
Speaker 2: up in the back of a trunk this time, or
Speaker 2: I'll end up in a semi truck. They're finding stashus
Speaker 2: down here. They found tunnels in al Paso. We just
Speaker 2: talked to Victor Avola, who's a retired HSI and I
Speaker 2: special agent. They said they found even more tunnels in
Speaker 2: al Paso recently that are operational. We found out they
Speaker 2: were moving around eight hundred people a week through one
Speaker 2: tunnel in al Paso, and that included women from Venezuela
Speaker 2: who they determined who being sex trafficked. So that is
Speaker 2: what's going on. And that was just a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago that they found that tunnel. So the cartel
Speaker 2: has not stopped operating. They're just giving us a little
Speaker 2: grace right now to get our bearings. They're seeing what
Speaker 2: we're doing, and then they're gonna act. So we saw
Speaker 2: a shootout so to speak, between the cartel and the
Speaker 2: border patrol down here in the Rio Grande Valley on
Speaker 2: fnt Ben Island, which was actually known as Cartel Island
Speaker 2: because of all that activity over there. Now Texas came in.
Speaker 2: They basically commandeered that land and it's ours cleared it,
Speaker 2: clear cut it so that there could be no smuggling
Speaker 2: activity on there anymore. So they took on fire the
Speaker 2: other day from the south side, from the Mexican side
Speaker 2: by suspected cartel gunmen. They were trying to move people
Speaker 2: across the border illegally through the river, and so that happened. Apparently.
Speaker 2: Mike Banks, the new Border Patrol chiefs, said there were
Speaker 2: two different incidents of gunfire exchanged this week with Border patrol.
Speaker 2: Now it's scary to hear that that, you know, the
Speaker 2: cartel has been given the quote green light to fire
Speaker 2: and agents. You know, over the last couple of months
Speaker 2: we've reported this, they're acting in kind of unprecedented ways
Speaker 2: of desperation with this Trump administration. So while we're seeing
Speaker 2: these shootings happen, you know, and then and then we
Speaker 2: had a cartel guys shoot a hiker in El Centro sector.
Speaker 2: So we've had a lot of chaos with the cartels
Speaker 2: over the last week. And so what you know, we
Speaker 2: don't know how they're going to operate. You haven't seen
Speaker 2: what they're going to do. But agents tell me the shootouts,
Speaker 2: you know, taking on gunfire from the south side is regular,
Speaker 2: but again the cartel is operating differently, so head on
Speaker 2: the swivel for them. They're not letting their guard down either.
Speaker 2: Just because they've taken on fire before doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: they're just going to go okay, well, this is business
Speaker 2: as usual. They are concerned. You know, I have a
Speaker 2: bulletproof gear now for the first time. I've never had
Speaker 2: protective gear down at the border full disclosure. I never
Speaker 2: thought I needed it. Now I requested it, So now
Speaker 2: I have a full kit with me just in case,
Speaker 2: because I don't know what's going to happen down here.
Speaker 1: So as far as the shootout, of course, we're told
Speaker 1: they're now designated as a terrorist group, international terrorist group,
Speaker 1: much like al Qaeda, in which you know the eighty
Speaker 1: second Airborne can wipe out al Qaeda. Do you see
Speaker 1: based upon Trump that if these shootouts continue, that if
Speaker 1: the cartel keeps shooting at our men and women, eventually
Speaker 1: there's going to be some killed, whether it's in the border,
Speaker 1: god forbid, a reporter or other people. They're going to
Speaker 1: do this and then we'll have snipers on the border.
Speaker 1: Could you see an actual time when Donald Trump says, okay,
Speaker 1: you killed two of our border agents. Here comes the
Speaker 1: eighty second airborne.
Speaker 2: Here's the issue Bill. A lot of agents are actually
Speaker 2: frustrated that they haven't heard more from the Trump administration
Speaker 2: about these shootouts because of the designation. Right, they're like,
Speaker 2: a second, why are we going in there and you know,
Speaker 2: basically getting rid of them now they're shooting at agents?
Speaker 2: What is going Why isn't there a response? Now? Why
Speaker 2: are we going to wait for someone to get hurt?
Speaker 2: What is going on? So they're frustrated. They haven't heard
Speaker 2: a statement. They've got, you know, the Border Patrol chief
Speaker 2: put out a state you know, a post on X
Speaker 2: but they haven't heard Trump talk about it. They haven't
Speaker 2: heard him talk about these cartel terrorists or you know,
Speaker 2: are firing at agents. We're going to handle it. They
Speaker 2: have no idea what the response from the Trump administration
Speaker 2: is going to be because we haven't seen any response
Speaker 2: to us. Like you said, they designated them that terrorists
Speaker 2: and here's what else is weird? And I try to
Speaker 2: get answers out of this. But down here in Texas,
Speaker 2: they designated Trenda Arragua as a terrorist organization. They've nabbed
Speaker 2: several of them, but they're sitting in jail on state crimes.
Speaker 2: There's no terroristic infraction on them at all. They're going
Speaker 2: to go in the game database. But what what did
Speaker 2: that do? What did a terrorist designation do to these guys?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 2: They've got a state level rhyme for illegally entering, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like they're not being they're not
Speaker 2: being leveled like a terrorist. So I don't know what's
Speaker 2: going to happen with this cartel, you know, interaction as
Speaker 2: of late. Maybe you know, Trump is all about strategy.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's moving some pieces that we don't see Bill.
Speaker 2: But right now, like I said, agents are a little
Speaker 2: frustrated that the guy that they're like, we got, you know,
Speaker 2: a guy that supports us, he's got our back. He's
Speaker 2: not going to come out and say anything about agents
Speaker 2: being fired on. They're kind of shocked by that, if
Speaker 2: I'm honest.
Speaker 1: As far as the numbers you talk, December of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, there was three hundred thousand known. Now it's
Speaker 1: six hundred and fifteen a day. If that continues, My
Speaker 1: simple deer park math tells me that's about eighteen thousand
Speaker 1: a month as opposed to three hundred thousand a month.
Speaker 1: Two thirds are Mexicans, and describe how a Mexican illegal
Speaker 1: is treated differently than someone, say from Venezuela or Uganda.
Speaker 1: How's that different?
Speaker 2: So when someone from Mexico comes over, I mean, the
Speaker 2: reality is this, my friend, people from Mexico don't qualify
Speaker 2: for asylum. We go over to Mexico to shop, to
Speaker 2: vacation to you know, unless it's an extreme case, they're
Speaker 2: not going to qualify for asylum. There are neighbors, there
Speaker 2: are partners Mexico, so you know, for them to come
Speaker 2: over here and claim asylum, that was not Most of
Speaker 2: the time Mexican nationals are trying to evade. Those are
Speaker 2: the people that wader patrol is down here to stop
Speaker 2: years before Biden right, and then it was like an
Speaker 2: open door. So then they started coming over and getting
Speaker 2: notices to appear for a Mexican nationals, which blew my mind.
Speaker 2: I'm like, white people from Sinolo are getting an NTA.
Speaker 2: So the door was open for them to come in
Speaker 2: and seek asylum, but Mexico. Why would they get asylum
Speaker 2: in Mexico? And so that was that is interesting. But
Speaker 2: here's the reality. They can be turned around pretty quickly
Speaker 2: because a Mexico and US work together same sandbox, so
Speaker 2: they will take them back open arms, and then b
Speaker 2: these other countries they're not being taken back with open
Speaker 2: so some people from other countries are being removed to
Speaker 2: Mexico as well, and then Mexico is fielding those deportations.
Speaker 2: So the Mexican national is different because number one, that's
Speaker 2: the vast majority of people that are coming across and
Speaker 2: have in the history of time, and they don't get asylum,
Speaker 2: so they're turned around. That is just the reality. They're
Speaker 2: the easiest to remove. They don't require attention because you
Speaker 2: can walk them back across a port of entry bridge.
Speaker 2: It's been happening for years. It's happened under Biden. He
Speaker 2: deported people too, He removes people too, So all of
Speaker 2: those things happened, it just wasn't on display like it
Speaker 2: is under the Trump administration ally.
Speaker 1: Bradley, I saw NBC News, one of your competitors at
Speaker 1: News Nation, with video of huge camps on the Mexican
Speaker 1: side of the border in which literally there's ten to
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand human beings sleeping on cots, tents on top
Speaker 1: of their head waiting to enter the country to get
Speaker 1: to use the app. Of course the app is now down.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine Trump's going to let the app be
Speaker 1: as the vehicle the golden paths to get into the country.
Speaker 1: And so the reporter from NBC News said, Okay, what's
Speaker 1: going to happen in a year or two or three.
Speaker 1: This fifteen thousand waiting to enter the country on the
Speaker 1: Mexican side could become fifty thousand or seventy five thousand.
Speaker 2: Okay, So are they waiting to enter the country or
Speaker 2: are those the people that were removed and they've now
Speaker 2: been received by Mexico and they have soft sided facilities
Speaker 2: where they're processing them back into their country.
Speaker 1: Both in other words, once you've been put back, then
Speaker 1: you have to go back to Nicarauga, wherever the heck,
Speaker 1: or Venezuela, and they're waiting.
Speaker 2: There's the concern of is the cartel going to be
Speaker 2: capitalizing on people with spinning right right? That's the fear.
Speaker 2: And Victor Avola with a former HSI special agent and says, yes,
Speaker 2: that's absolutely something that we could be seeing that we
Speaker 2: could see people coming back into Mexico and they grab
Speaker 2: them and go okay, pay us again or hay pay
Speaker 2: us to come back into Mexico. Right, So are we
Speaker 2: creating a different funding stream for the cartel by sending
Speaker 2: them back? I don't know. We'll see what that I'll
Speaker 2: play out. But the individuals that are over there, there's
Speaker 2: no app anymore. We're not worth seeing. You know a
Speaker 2: handful of people at the ports, and the reason for
Speaker 2: that as there's interior ports too. There's ports down here
Speaker 2: at the port of entry. People can legally walk up
Speaker 2: and claim asylum. That is where they would be encountered.
Speaker 2: That is what they're supposed to do. So you still
Speaker 2: see a handful of people come up to the ports
Speaker 2: right now. But full disclosure, you know, we're looking at
Speaker 2: the chart of the numbers where we're from about you know,
Speaker 2: fifteen to eighteen hundred on average under Biden when it
Speaker 2: came to border patrol encounters. But you weren't looking at
Speaker 2: the sixteen hundred a day that came through the port.
Speaker 2: That was like, hey, nobody's talk about the fact because
Speaker 2: that's considered a legal entry. And remember when the app started,
Speaker 2: it started out as what was the eight hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty applicants every day anyone up to a thousand, anyone's
Speaker 2: twelve fifty. Then it was fourteen fifty while we slept,
Speaker 2: and then oh my gosh, sixteen hundred on average every day.
Speaker 2: So you know, now it's on the day. Within fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes he shut down that app and I think the
Speaker 2: next day at the port there was only like forty
Speaker 2: four encounters versus sixteen hundred, you know, And so that
Speaker 2: is a really big difference. That is, you know, impactful
Speaker 2: obviously to the individuals that were over there waiting. You know,
Speaker 2: they were some two hundred thousand outstanding appointments that were
Speaker 2: rendered Nolan Voyd, So you know, that is the reality.
Speaker 2: It is this unfortunate thing. They were sold a bag
Speaker 2: of goods, you know. And these migrants that I walked
Speaker 2: with in the caravan, they looked at me, dead pen
Speaker 2: in the face and said, what we're doing is legally illegal.
Speaker 2: We're not hurting anybody, We're leaving nothing. We're trying for something,
Speaker 2: worst case scenario, go back to nothing. That was a mentality,
Speaker 2: why not try And how can you blame them? Bill?
Speaker 2: They thought every one of their friends walk in and
Speaker 2: get medical help, and get financial help and get a
Speaker 2: house over roof over their heads and maybe an opportunity
Speaker 2: for their kids. Why wouldn't they try? And they did,
Speaker 2: to the tune of hundreds of thousands, millions over four years.
Speaker 2: And so that is the reality. Those people were sold
Speaker 2: the bag of goods, and now we're seeing them remove
Speaker 2: from this country. You know, they're starting with the criminals.
Speaker 2: But you hear Tom Homans say, you heard Carolyn Lovitt
Speaker 2: say yesterday, everybody that crossed that border illegally is a criminal.
Speaker 2: They broke the loss being into our nation. And that
Speaker 2: is a reality. And I tell people, Bill, I say,
Speaker 2: you know, America voted for these removals, for these deportations.
Speaker 2: Right now, everyone's cheering on, you know, the criminals being removed,
Speaker 2: tatted up guys, the trendy Aragua bad guys, the murderers,
Speaker 2: the isis guys. Get them out. But it's going to
Speaker 2: come to a time when some families are removed, some
Speaker 2: grandmas are removed. Put your head in the sand, turn
Speaker 2: off the TV if you don't want to see that,
Speaker 2: because that reality will come. America did vote for that
Speaker 2: as well, and that will happen. People. There's already they're
Speaker 2: already taking collaterals right people that are there that aren't
Speaker 2: targets are being arrested because they're here illegally. So if
Speaker 2: you don't want to see reality, turn off the TV
Speaker 2: because that is going to get hard. We're all humans.
Speaker 2: I'm a Christian. It's hard to see so that will
Speaker 2: happen right now. It's it's kind of Gangbusters bad guys.
Speaker 2: So everyone's tearing it on. But I think that America
Speaker 2: is going to have a hard time. And I'm being honest,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't mince words, and you know, I'm
Speaker 2: honest about what I'm experiencing and seeing down here, and
Speaker 2: think it's going to be hard for America to see
Speaker 2: people remove because I've seen many of them face to
Speaker 2: face and they are humans. Ye're human beings that God created,
Speaker 2: that got sold the bag of goods and they bought
Speaker 2: it well. And it's unfortunate that we're going to have
Speaker 2: to watch all this unfold. In my opinion, it is
Speaker 2: a tough, tough space. America voted for it. It needs
Speaker 2: to happen. But they are human beings, they are lives,
Speaker 2: and it does suck that they got they got encouraged
Speaker 2: to come.
Speaker 1: Well. The thirteen billion dollar a year industry the human
Speaker 1: trafficking cartels are not going to give up their products
Speaker 1: and their goods and services for nothing. I watched Tom
Speaker 1: Homan with Chris Cuomo a couple of nights ago. One
Speaker 1: point four million Aliens live inside the United States that
Speaker 1: have deportation orders that they've ignored, six hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: five thousand known criminals inside of America that they don't
Speaker 1: want to be apprehended. There's another large group who simply
Speaker 1: showed up and work in the fields, working the factories,
Speaker 1: work in the hospitals that aren't criminals. They don't have
Speaker 1: deportation orders, but here illegally, which is a crime. You
Speaker 1: got to be deported. And so get ready, because you
Speaker 1: say it very well, Ali Bradley, and that is that
Speaker 1: at some point the mainstream media is going to be
Speaker 1: all over. A grandma put back to Nicaragua, separated, a
Speaker 1: mother separated from her two or three kids because she
Speaker 1: happened to be at a place where there was a
Speaker 1: druggie around and they asked her for her identification. They
Speaker 1: determine that she's here illegally in the way she goes.
Speaker 1: That's it, we got it.
Speaker 2: We have to be honest though about what Tom Horman
Speaker 2: is saying too, though he's offering these families the chance
Speaker 2: to leave together. If a mother chooses to separate from
Speaker 2: her child, it will be her decision, because they're going
Speaker 2: to give that mother the opportunity to take her kids
Speaker 2: back with her to Nicaragua, and if she chooses not to,
Speaker 2: that is her decision to separate from her children. That
Speaker 2: is what Tom Horman is putting out there. When I
Speaker 2: look at the numbers of these final Orders of Removal bill,
Speaker 2: because we've got one point four to six million, I'm
Speaker 2: looking at the total cases right now. What's interesting is
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty six thousand of them are in Miami,
Speaker 2: and you know that Ron DeSantis has such a great
Speaker 2: working relationship with Trump, so it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 2: them really going to Florida because we haven't seen a
Speaker 2: lot of activity in Florida yet when it comes to
Speaker 2: these ICE so called raids, they're targeted enforcement operations, but
Speaker 2: they're calling them raids, So we haven't seen that, right.
Speaker 2: We haven't seen Miami really upended, which is interesting because
Speaker 2: the next one down is Los Angeles, another one we
Speaker 2: haven't really seen hammered by ice. New York that's the
Speaker 2: third down. We obviously saw DHS Secretary Christinome down there yesterday.
Speaker 2: I'm you know, rounding up bad guys in her words,
Speaker 2: so that or dirtbag she called them. So that's where
Speaker 2: we're at right now. They've got, you know, a million
Speaker 2: and a half people that they've got to find and
Speaker 2: most of them were ordered removement, had sentia I, meaning
Speaker 2: they didn't show up to port right. So they've got
Speaker 2: a task. They got to find them right, and they
Speaker 2: all have their dockets. You know. One of my guys
Speaker 2: sends me stuff almost every day of who he's going after,
Speaker 2: and he's on the Fugitive Operations teams, and I know
Speaker 2: who he's going. He's going after child molesters, he's going
Speaker 2: after terrorists, he's going after drug dealers, and they'll find
Speaker 2: me he is going after murderers. They are not going
Speaker 2: after your friends at church. That is not who my
Speaker 2: fugitive operation sources have ever touched.
Speaker 1: Ali Bradley, you're the best of what you do, a
Speaker 1: little bit of a lull, but as you point out,
Speaker 1: there's still a wave out there ready to hit the shores,
Speaker 1: and Ali Bradley of News Nation, you're the best there
Speaker 1: is that doing this kind of stuff? And once again,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Ali,
Speaker 1: you're a great American.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you, sir. God bless always,
Speaker 2: God bless America.
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