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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. What

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are you thinking? Abraham Jones, I'm Mike Mahardy here as

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always your host's episode one thirty two or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I'm here with Mary Kesh.

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Speaker 3: I think Dan would have liked that, and Big Vinnie.

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Speaker 1: Caravella, Big Vidy's in the house way one word, two questions?

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Speaker 2: How you doing?

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Speaker 4: Uh? What bodies I'm doing? I'm doing great. I realized

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when we came in here there we're all doing videos.

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So I was like, my place looks too My place

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looks too clean. Let me mess it up a little.

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Big Vinie's got a rep to keep. Let me mess

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it up a little bit in the back here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's nice that you can see the

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broom so we know you're hot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks yeah, you know, Big Vidiy's always cleaning house.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Always be sweeping.

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Speaker 2: Watch video.

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Speaker 1: It looks like Vinnie is broadcasting from like the trailer

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next to a construction site that's just got ramp stuff,

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and there's union members coming in and out asking for.

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Speaker 4: This welcome by.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's the sign.

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Speaker 5: Hey, they just put that apple pie over there. The

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miss she really wanted you to have this big video.

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Speaker 1: Yeah if if you butt in, if there's some paper

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in there, yeah, I don't know what that is.

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Speaker 4: That's good. That's good. I hope your first podcast is

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a masculine buck.

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Speaker 1: Come to me on the day of my podcast one episode. Dan, Yeah,

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we should say Dan is not here SUPs. Dan has

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been taken with a game so much, Oh my god,

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just literally has not been available to record because he's

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trying one hundred percent. He's just trying to see every

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little thing possible. It is mixtape Dan Riker is.

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Speaker 4: So that is so Dan, the one that's like the

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coming of age with the music and stuff, the.

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Speaker 1: Bill dungs Roman with all the music and yeah, Collie

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and the teenagers.

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Speaker 4: That's so funny.

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Speaker 1: He's like, guys, I genuinely we're like, come on and

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talk about it.

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Speaker 2: That's what the shows. I was like, no, no, no, no, no,

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you don't understand.

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Speaker 1: Like I like, I'm he locked himself in a room

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to see everything he possibly could in this game. I

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think he's like he's going to do a pilgrimage, so

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where if the developers are based and like desperately beg

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for a job because he's like, I need to be

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so sweet creation of this kind of Yeah. Yeah, so

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now so many things like click into place. He called

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me and he was like, how many tissue boxes? Is

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it normal for somebody to go through at night?

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Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, first of all, I thought

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it was something else.

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Speaker 1: Now it makes the way he talks about that game,

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I think he might need the tissues for more things than.

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Speaker 4: He a little upset. Yeah, yeah he was.

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Speaker 1: He's like, it's all just mangled down there. I love

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this game so much.

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Speaker 4: Well then I don't know what the ice cream was for.

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And really then I'm just all confused. I'm so glad

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he's enjoying a game, finally, a game that brings him

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such as emotional joy as Breadth of the Wild made

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him cry.

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Speaker 1: It's like the Yeah, it's he somehow is like an

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adult now, Like I'm talking to him, he knows, yeah,

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he knows how to like cook, he knows how to

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do laundry.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, the game.

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Speaker 1: I think, like the game was the thing that triggered

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his emotional intelligence. Yeah, you know, let's hope it stays

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up there. Who knows, he'll be back next episode. I

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honestly don't. He might still be playing mixtape. But but Vinnie,

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it's been a while. I think you, I don't know,

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a few a year or so since you were last.

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Speaker 4: Since fire Escape.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you've been on Firescape a lot this year,

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but that's true.

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Speaker 4: Sure folks might not know. We've been war hammering it

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in the background here fire Escape regular Big Vinnie Caravella.

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I'm doing I'm doing well. You know, it's been a

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was a kind of packed April for video games, so

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kind of chewing through a bunch of stuff in the background,

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been playing all the late April releases, and then I

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feel like it kind of everybody was like, when's Grand

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Theft Auto coming out? We can't release a game in

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twenty twenty six. We gotta get out of the way.

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So I'm very curious to see what happens in the

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back half of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think they've been clear with the date,

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haven't they. It's like a it's a Thanksgiving treat yeh, November.

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Speaker 4: But I think didn't they move it right? So, like,

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weren't they? It wasn't everybody like, great, you're coming out

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twenty twenty five. This is awesome, Well we'll all push

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out of the way, and they're like nah, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it shifts everything, right, such a monolith,

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such a such a massive game. Everyone's like, let's avoid

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that window. Yeah. I do appreciate that they gave us

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the heads up because when Silk Song did it, they

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were like, hey, by the way, we're coming up next Saturday,

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and all the indie games were like, fuck to move everything.

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Everybody's pushing papers in the back.

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Speaker 1: You can't.

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Speaker 3: You can't release the same weekend as them, like in

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good conscience, like you have to move. And I think

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g t A is that, but on a triple A

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scale of listen, we're the biggest fish in the pond.

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Get out of our way. It's gonna be mid November.

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I think it's like mid late November.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that game is despite how that game is,

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it is just going to swallow everything. Right, Like even

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if that game, even if that game you boot it

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up and it's just a poop emoji, right, it's just

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gonna sell a billion copies.

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Speaker 3: People are gonna love the poop emoji. It's gonna change culture.

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Everybody will be wearing the poop emoji. We'll be talking

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about the poop emoji. It doesn't You're right, it doesn't

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matter what they do I do. But they they always

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push themselves and so like, obviously they're gonna they're gonna

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make massive changes to the way that you play that game.

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Speaker 4: You see that.

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Speaker 3: I did see that.

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Speaker 4: It is it is like one one is over here.

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Speaker 3: So I am dead drunk, Welcome to the party, pal.

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I made myself a real nice Uh this is a

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bloody Mary, but I made it.

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Speaker 1: Like a beer in a beer glass.

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Speaker 3: I don't think bloody marry vessels are big enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a pint would not suffice.

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Speaker 3: My biggest complaint about a Bloody Mary's.

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Speaker 1: They're at.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of it.

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Speaker 1: At the time, I.

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Speaker 3: Increased the vessel.

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Speaker 1: Have you been anywhere that does like the crazy garnishes

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like bacon and like onion rings and ship I was like,

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come on, just give me a drink as the garnish

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for bloody marries.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, where are they doing that?

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Speaker 3: Where are they the dress on Instagram?

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Speaker 1: I'm ready, Yeah, it's it's it's a lot.

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Speaker 2: I just want the bloody I like.

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Speaker 3: I like the accouterment. I think that you can go

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too far.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I like it when they have the cornishans, those like

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little pickles, and sometimes they'll do it with like you know,

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brind olives or regular olives.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like a drink garnish an onion ring that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But I've been to places where it's like a

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full sandwich, like they stab like a bacon cheeseburger and

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it's in the drink. I mean it's not like literally liquid,

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but it is. It is a garnish on the drink.

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Speaker 4: That's not a garnish anymore. That's just it's just a

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sandwich with a drink.

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Speaker 3: No welcome to America of any like, and here our

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sandwiches are garnishes. I've also been to a bloody Marry

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bar where you make your own bloody Mary, and it's

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just like it's everything that you could imagine for a sandwich,

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but it's like but you just stab it with a

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stick and then put it on top of your drink.

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Speaker 4: Next time, I hope the next time when I have

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to sign up for healthcare, it's just picked the bloody

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Mary and the healthcare just gets tacked onto it. I

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just got a there's a yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like

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what plan do you want? It doesn't matter. We'll just

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well that's lately late late, late stage capitalism.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a sure premium goes up super high because

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they see the bloody Mary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah your post on your Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Mike just definitely needs a surgery. And he's like, I

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just want to bloody Mary.

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Speaker 1: I just want a bloody Mary.

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Speaker 3: This sho you're gonna want this, Vinny, how's life been?

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Speaker 4: Life is fantastic. I U I just turned twenty seven,

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and I hear it, thank you very much. I hear

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it as one of the better ones. I'm very happy

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about that. So yeah, it's you know, some people get

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weird about getting old. I love it. I love getting older.

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When I think, Mack, I've said this before, of all

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the stuff I had to go through in my twenties,

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it's like, man, I'm so glad I'm done with that.

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I'm so glad I don't have to make all those

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bad decisions. I've embarrassed myself, I've hurt myself, I've hurt

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so many people. It's all of the past. Now it's

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just pretty and now nobody cares about me. So it's

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like it's a great I'm just an old man, and

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it's like people just like doing it. He just says

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whatever he wants. He doesn't even remember anything anymore, and it's.

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Speaker 1: Like this, you say whatever you want, whatever I want.

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If you're listening to this episode, there's been like seven

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edits already that we just had. He's just blurting out

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really offensive shit.

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Speaker 3: I like the idea of you just being like a

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like a messy grandpa in your basement, just hanging out

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in obscurity and enjoying your life.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that. We talked Vinnie up often on

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the show. I feel like you could, at this point

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in your life right now just decide for the rest

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of your life to be a real piece of shit,

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and we all be like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he earned it, he earned it.

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Speaker 4: I've been really thank you. I thank you. I appreciate

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what a lot of people don't want. We were talking

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before the show is uh and you guys gave me

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fair warning that when we start this recording, you're going

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to have to not be an asshole. We're talking about

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how abrasive and what a dick I am off camera,

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and then when we're on camera and the and the hustle. Yeah,

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that's right. The hustles, the on camera personality and an

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off camera it is just everybody's got skeletons in closet,

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we all do.

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Speaker 3: I think that's fair. I think I tell you guys

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this yet. But I got into another street altercation.

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Speaker 1: Since the last episode when you told us about another one?

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, was it the lady who backed up into me.

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Speaker 2: Like in a car?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? No, wait what happened?

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Speaker 4: Wait? I didn't hear about the first one.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I get it. I'm getting into these chan

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and this one, this is the one where like Vinny,

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like going off of what you're saying, which is like, hey,

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like we all have like different pieces of ourselves. I'm

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finding that when I'm in the world, I can get

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quickly angered, maybe too fast. And I was having a

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bad day.

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Speaker 1: What you're doing the Dan thing where you have a

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revensy self that everybody already.

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Speaker 3: This is extreme growth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, Okay, I had a.

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Speaker 3: Bad day at work. I made a decision to go

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I was like, I have a bad day. I'm going

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to get a little coffee with a bear on it

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that would make me happy. And so I drink my

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my bear coffee and I'm like, oh my god, I

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feel so much better. This is so important to take breaks.

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I think I said that out loud to myself. So

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important to take breaks, and like, no when you're unhappy.

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I walk off the sidewalk into the street and a

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lady puts her car in reverse, like at the same time,

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she must have been pulled over, right, So she puts

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her car in reverse and I go, whoa. She goes

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in the rear view mirror. I see her face go WHOA,

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it's an accident. I walked to the street to cross

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the street. She unrolls her window and she goes, really,

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she's gonna walk in the street. And I turned around

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and I I actually, like think I blacked out because

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I was so blown away that she thought it was

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my fault that she almost reversed into me. And I said,

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I said, really, what She she goes waiting for you walking?

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You're you're just gonna walk into the street, And I said,

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I'm a pedestrian, bitch, you can't hit me. I just

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started yelling. I just started yelling at her like crazy,

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and she goes, she goes, oh, so we're just all

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walking in the street now, And I said, yeah, we

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are just walking in the street now. We're all walking

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in the street. We're walking the street. And I said,

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you get the fuck out of here, you dry away,

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you get hair. I'm screaming at her. Everyone's looking around.

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all in front of everyone, and she and she puts

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it into drive and she scoots away and I just

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start I'm screaming at her as she leaves, and they said,

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you stupid bitch. Pedestrians have the right away always. I went,

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and then I went back to work.

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Speaker 4: Did you did you? And then I ran over somebody.

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Speaker 3: Drill I was I was furious. I was so livid.

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I got in my car and I went, what happened

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to you? Because I didn't I didn't say, so, maybe.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you need more breaks, Mary, kind yourself.

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Speaker 3: More bear coffees. I I I went from zero to

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one hundred in the blink of an eye. And I

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think what triggered me was the idea that, in a

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public situation, that she thought I made a mistake while

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she was driving a vehicle.

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Speaker 1: I was you to acknowledge that, like there was a

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bit of a miscommunication or something like a little blit.

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But it's for her to then just blame you. Uh

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that's what street was? It like a like a how

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do I say this? Like an urban street with a

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so I would say it's a busier streets walk.

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Speaker 3: I think she was mad that I didn't just a crosswalk.

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I was in Portland. You are allowed to cross the

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street anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of like a look the other

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I don't think any place. Actually, I've never heard totally Actually.

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Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, it was not a crosswalk. That is that

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is that is on her side on my side. Uh,

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she was parked on the side of the street. There's

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no indication that she's going anywhere. I was behind her

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when she chose to go into reverse, if that makes sense,

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and like nothing happened. You know what's so crazy about

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it is if she would have rolled down her window

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and said, oh my god, I'm sorry, I would have

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been like me too. Yeah, that was an accident. It

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was an honest to god accident. It was the simple.

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Speaker 4: Really, really, are we just walking in the store, Nick,

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what are we gonna do? Just talk? We're gonna talk

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to people.

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Speaker 1: You gonna buy your little bear coffee? Just walk?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're making eye contact now, is that what we're doing?

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Speaker 1: Are you sure?

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Speaker 3: Just switching my brain?

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Speaker 2: A bear in your coffee and not?

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Speaker 5: Ye?

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Speaker 3: I mean caffeine can can do it to you. I

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I think like I was already having a bad day.

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I think the bear I was like, this is good.

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I'm so I literally said out loud, I'm so good

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to myself. It's so important to treat yourself when you're

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having a bad day. And then and then it really

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sent me over the edge.

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Speaker 4: I feel like we've all been in that place right

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of like, really, somebody else is going to be on

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my fucking case. Somebody else is going to be like,

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really you exist in this world. Really you're here my

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day as well?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I didn't need that.

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Speaker 3: And you always hear that saying you don't know what

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other people are going through, Like you don't know what

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someone else is going through. When she said really she

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might have been having a really bad day, Tay, she

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probably was. That's probably why she was being such a cunt.

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And she was like coming at me because she doesn't

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have a lot of agency in her life. But she

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doesn't know what I'm going through either. Yeah, and you're

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only as crazy as the next person that you run into.

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And it just so happens. On that day, I was

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a little crazier, I was a little bit more on edge,

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and she didn't know that. So yeah, I hope she

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learned a valuable lesson.

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Speaker 1: She was calling her husband, who was behind you.

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Speaker 4: Really, are we not walking? Are we walking in the

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street now?

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Speaker 3: Exactly what I said to her.

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Speaker 2: With his two.

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Speaker 4: What do you think she wanted? What do you think?

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In her mind? The perfect end of is it like

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you being like you coming over and being like, I

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am so sorry I walked in the street. I I

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was walking and I was thinking about like something else

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and not about hurting you, and like you almost hit

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me and that would have ruined your day and possibly

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I am just so sorry.

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Speaker 1: Can I get in?

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Speaker 4: Can I get you?

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Speaker 3: Almost hit me?

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Speaker 1: I'm so.

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Speaker 4: And that would have you probably scarred you and like,

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I mean to forget what would have happened to me?

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You though, that's really traumadous. I'm sorry, here's my number,

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here's I want to I think we could be friends.

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Speaker 3: You call me when you get home so that I

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know you got there.

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Speaker 4: And you didn't hit anybody else.

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Speaker 2: What happened to me last year. Actually, this reminds me

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of a thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I told you. Uh, there's our

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favorite pizza place in our neighborhood. It's like six blocks away,

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so we walk over there. They don't do delivery, you

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gotta go pick it up. And the intersection they're at

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is notoriously it's got one of the like you must

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stop for pedestrians, but there's no actual stop sign, so

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you kind of need to keep your head on a

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swivel when you're a pedestrian crossing it because some people

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just won't stop.

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Speaker 2: So I had my pizza in my hand.

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Speaker 1: Amanda was with me and we were walking back, and

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was like, all right, I think this woman is stopping.

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Speaker 2: So then I cross.

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Speaker 1: I starts across the street and she like doesn't stop,

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and then she sees me finally and then slams on

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the brakes and I was like, she didn't say anything. Also,

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I will say it was a nice day, so her

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windows were down. I'm not six feet from her, so

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she like she looks annoyed that she had to stop.

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I was like, no, you can go, like sarcastically, because

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I was that's an important distinction.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I can go.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no go. So then she of course

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got annoyed. She's like, Okay, relax, and then it was like, oh,

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you almost just ran into me in a two ton

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killing machine and I'm at fault. She's like, what do

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you are you really trying to do a thing right now.

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I was like no, no, no, no, no, you drive. Go through

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the crosswalk. And then I started calling her a Karen,

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which really sent her over.

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Speaker 4: The So this is you're actually saying these things like

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you're not just.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she's again she's like in this like Mercedes SUV.

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She's not bar for me, Like yeah again, like nice day.

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Her windows were all down, so we were it wasn't screaming.

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I mean our voices were elevated. But no, no, no, no, no, Karen,

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you know what, You just drive. And then at the

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next intersection, who the fuck cares that someone's walking through?

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Just go? So like I literally on principle, would not

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cross the street until she went. So I got like

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in my head, I was like, oh, that'll maintain the

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upper hand. She finally left and then I was like,

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you won, yeah, And then we went home and had

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the pizza and it was great Tenth Street pizza, pasta

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and pizza.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing pizza.

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Speaker 4: So so my problem is in my little suburban heaven

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here with the kids in school, that stuff kind of

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happens and where people like making a left and they're

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not looking and we're crossing and there's a lot of

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kids walking around, and so I'll usually stop on the

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street and just do like a stare down like I'll

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just shoot the like look and be like mother and

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right and and and just not say anything.

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Speaker 2: Well, you carry the AR fifteen everywhere too.

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Speaker 6: Everywhere it's like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so on. Your hip is also pretty intimidating.

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Speaker 4: But the problem is like six, it'll happen seven times,

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and the eighth time it's somebody I know. So I'll

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do the thing. They'll just come around the turn not

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looking and be like the fuck are you doing and

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then be like, oh, hey.

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Speaker 5: Gina, you know, yeah boy, Oh see you next time

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with the kids.

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Speaker 1: Bye tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: I'm so passive aggressive. My kids hate it. My family

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hates everything about the way I deal with that kind

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of conflict, like when they're when people block the box

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in like an intersection and we're walking by it, I'm like,

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and then I'll walk a little bit past and I'll

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just start yelling, Yeah, you can stop anywhere you want.

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Speaker 1: You could just.

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Speaker 4: Dad, what are you doing? Be like I'm yelling at

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them like they're totally gone. Yeah, that's right, stop anywhere

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you want. This is your world. We just live in it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, beautiful.

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Speaker 4: I am the worst. I'm so terrible. Like my wife

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is deals with any confrontation, Like when I'm something happens,

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I'm like, I'm so learn right now, I cannot believe

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they did not do this thing. You should call them,

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you should call And my wife is like, you call them.

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I can't. I can't. You know, I can't talk to people.

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You talk to them, talk and yeah, so she'll she'll

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that's exactly what I I'll be like, oh, hey, hey, Mary,

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how's it going. Everything's doing great, everything's doing great. My

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wife just wanted to say hi for a second. I'm like,

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you need to.

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Speaker 1: Tell her you need right now.

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Speaker 4: And I'll be like, this happens all the time with

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construction work in her house, or I'll be like, oh

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my gosh, you guys are doing such a great job.

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My wife will be like, oh, here we go. You

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know you got we said we wanted this, and we

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wanted this, And I'll be like, my wife's name is Jesse. Jesse.

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That's a little harsh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And when she turns, when she turns to you,

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you're like, get her.

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Speaker 5: Get her, and then what we're doing to be like,

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how come we didn't how come we didn't.

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Speaker 1: Mention this thing?

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Speaker 4: And she's like, you were right there. I'd be like,

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I'm just like, you guys are doing such great Jessey.

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Now that's a little I mean, I guess if you

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want to do it the right way.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is that would piss me off

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so much to oh my god.

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Speaker 4: And she'll just tell people. She'll just be like, he

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needs don't worry, he needs everybody to like him.

472
00:22:02,319 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 2: You are you're a Taurus.

473
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 1: You just yeah. I didn't realize that until recently. I

474
00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:09,400
borke the wine bar with a few people who are

475
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,319
really into astrological stuff, and they've been showing me the

476
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,039
ropes of what different signs are known for. Apparently, Taurus

477
00:22:16,079 --> 00:22:19,119
is one of which my wife is as well. There's

478
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,079
the weirdest sentence construction ever.

479
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 4: I thought the weirdest one was when I thought you

480
00:22:24,039 --> 00:22:31,079
said you borke the wine bar, and I was like,

481
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,960
are not entirely there yet?

482
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,279
Speaker 1: Wait? Are to Tory?

483
00:22:35,519 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 4: Are they known for as people pleasers?

484
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:37,839
Speaker 2: Supposedly?

485
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? The only two I know that our people pleasers

486
00:22:43,079 --> 00:22:46,240
that are truses. It checks out, Okay, this is.

487
00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 4: What this is for.

488
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,079
Speaker 3: I would predicted that of all of us, that Mike

489
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,480
would be the one that knows our signs and what

490
00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:56,279
they mean, and I know would be checking out.

491
00:22:57,079 --> 00:22:59,279
Speaker 1: Like absorbing it all against my will. Because there's like

492
00:22:59,319 --> 00:23:01,200
three people at the bar. They talk about a lot.

493
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,279
One of them does like tarot reading. He's awesome, but

494
00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:05,599
like he's very into like energy and stuff like that.

495
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,160
So he knows everybody's signed the bar. He knows I'm

496
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,200
the only virgo at the bar.

497
00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:12,319
Speaker 4: What does that make you? What does a virgo do?

498
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,599
Speaker 1: Yeah?

499
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:14,319
Speaker 4: Was he like?

500
00:23:16,519 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: They enjoy planning stuff.

501
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 3: That's how I would use it. I would weaponize the

502
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,160
ship out of it. I'd be like, well that makes sense.

503
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: You don't even know. You don't even know, Yeah, you

504
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,920
don't even need to know. The signs. You just need

505
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,519
to like say it.

506
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: So they're like making me feel like I'm conforming to

507
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,599
some boring stereotype.

508
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 3: Whether or not you realize it, you're a virgo.

509
00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 4: But that's what next time, that's what. If somebody ever

510
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,640
does that's you in the car marror, you'd be like,

511
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,240
you're fucking Leo.

512
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:57,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what.

513
00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:54,039
Speaker 3: I know it?

514
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:54,519
Speaker 1: Where are you?

515
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 3: But wait November and January?

516
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: Watch everybody, this must be in retrograde. Wow.

517
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 4: Wow too far? Wow too that's too far.

518
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,039
Speaker 3: That's offensive.

519
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:16,279
Speaker 1: J jj cut that one, Jake one to jet.

520
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: That time stamp. Okay, thirty three minutes.

521
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 4: Okay, how's the wine bar stuff going?

522
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: It's good.

523
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,279
Speaker 1: I took I told you guys, I took my first

524
00:24:24,319 --> 00:24:27,640
of five tests for my w SET.

525
00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 3: Diploma gratulations even whether or not, like we don't know

526
00:24:30,519 --> 00:24:32,559
the results, but I just want to say congratulations that

527
00:24:32,599 --> 00:24:34,240
you did it and you put yourself out there and

528
00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:35,400
you tried really hard.

529
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: So it's it's uh, this was a ninety minute test

530
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,440
and you don't know how many questions will be on it.

531
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,759
It's all open essay responses. So I was studying the

532
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,319
book a lot of outside materials for like two months

533
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,359
and then got I'm not supposed to talk about the questions,

534
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,599
but I got so I did well. I'm ninety five

535
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,599
percent sure I passed, but weirdly I will not get

536
00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:03,880
the result else until after I sit my second test,

537
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,000
which is going to be in June. And that's the

538
00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:08,839
business of wine, which is this was wine production, so

539
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,920
everything vineyards and the winery, like how stuff basically from

540
00:25:13,079 --> 00:25:16,400
seed to bottle, how it becomes wine.

541
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 4: All No, wow, this guy's a virgo. Hey can I

542
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,039
ask you a question?

543
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,079
Speaker 1: Mike? Sure, Yeah.

544
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,799
Speaker 4: Vinus labrusca.

545
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: It's a North American vine species that's used for root

546
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,559
grafting after Philoxra fucked up two thirds of the vineyards

547
00:25:43,599 --> 00:25:47,720
in the late nineteenth century. And uh uh Europe.

548
00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Well, what are the main shoots grow from?

549
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:50,720
And when?

550
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: What do the main shoots grow from? What do you mean?

551
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,799
Speaker 4: I don't know. This is the question. The question.

552
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: Question what do the mainshoots of Venis labruska now from?

553
00:26:01,559 --> 00:26:03,559
Speaker 4: Just in general, where are the main shoots grow from?

554
00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:08,319
Speaker 1: And when the graft onto the North American vine species.

555
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,079
Speaker 4: The main shoots on the vine grow in spring from

556
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,880
buds retained from the previous year.

557
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like the buds that are left after what Yeah, yeah.

558
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 4: Mike, define lignify.

559
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,279
Speaker 1: That's when the green parts of a vine become woody

560
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,160
and rigid after harvest, usually in the fall. Oh hell

561
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,720
yeah yeah, so you in the wine bar? No?

562
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so can you define the wine bar?

563
00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:34,839
Speaker 1: That would be a sick question. That would be in

564
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:42,160
the test. People are like looking up, looking at each other, like.

565
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,079
Speaker 3: Mike's sitting there.

566
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm the only one who.

567
00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:46,279
Speaker 3: Passed in more ways than one.

568
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,559
Speaker 1: We put it on the test and only one guy

569
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:49,599
tried to fuck the test.

570
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,839
Speaker 2: It was were you not prepared? I guess they had

571
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,799
sex before they came.

572
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it?

573
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,559
Speaker 4: What are the big wine bottles called the again like me.

574
00:27:01,799 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 2: It's all Jewish methusel.

575
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, that's wild. Are those the test man?

576
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: No, that's more of a that's more of like a thing.

577
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,279
Oh okay, no, but there there is a there's some

578
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:24,559
people have mnemonic devices to remember, like the ten crews

579
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:27,440
of Bogeli or the eleven communes in Barolo. But like

580
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,920
there's one. Of course, I'm not gonna repeat it. It's

581
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,720
actually it sticks in people's head because it's sucked up.

582
00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:36,680
But go Google nomonic device remembering bottle sizes, and you'll

583
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,279
you'll see what I'm talking. It has to do with

584
00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:43,759
Michael Jackson's Yeah, methusela jerebo magnum jeroboam. It's like Michael

585
00:27:43,799 --> 00:27:45,079
Jackson blank blank.

586
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,839
Speaker 4: Google doesn't need to know this about me.

587
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,319
Speaker 2: I'm not advocating h.

588
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: On my search history tripping.

589
00:27:54,079 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: Incognito.

590
00:27:55,279 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but no, Well, and then I have actually

591
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,960
I'm wearing the shirt. I'm going to Reasling Camp and

592
00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:07,440
the Finger Lakes U in a couple of weeks.

593
00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:09,559
Speaker 3: Yes, that's so cute. Do you spend the night?

594
00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah?

595
00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: You stay in tepees?

596
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: Really no, I got excited. I was thinking, like, I

597
00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:20,480
love the idea of like genuine camp where you're like,

598
00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:23,880
here's my bunk bed, Yeah, here's the trunk to keep

599
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,440
my stuff.

600
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

601
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the most that's probably my favorite like

602
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,880
heavy sub genre of movie is yeah, summer camp movies.

603
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:35,400
Really really theater camp. Have you guys seen this theater

604
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,319
camp on Hulu? Make it a priority? Really really good

605
00:28:38,359 --> 00:28:38,759
it came out.

606
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,039
Speaker 3: We've talked about that before.

607
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: It's really I.

608
00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: Like camp movies too. There's something very uh, there's like

609
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,079
a pure childhood about did you guys both go to

610
00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:50,160
a camp when you were children. I went to gymnastics

611
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,680
camp when I was a kid.

612
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:53,279
Speaker 4: Like a sleep away camp or a day camp.

613
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,559
Speaker 3: Uh, sleep away you stay there, you stay in a

614
00:28:57,559 --> 00:28:59,119
bunk bed. You were there for two years.

615
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: I didn't as a kid that my parents did not

616
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,279
trust the counselors who were like eighteen year olds.

617
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,359
Speaker 3: Think that's fair, but also it's such a write of passage.

618
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:11,039
Speaker 1: Yeah. But my friend of my like aunts and uncles

619
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,240
owns a camp up on Lake Skinny Atlas, So we

620
00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:16,680
would have family reunions there and we would all like

621
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,640
have free reign of the camp for a.

622
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:20,039
Speaker 3: Week, which that sounds like fun.

623
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,759
Speaker 1: I would like I had the infirmary to myself as

624
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:23,559
my like bunk.

625
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 4: Whoa, that's a little weird. Yeah that.

626
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,079
Speaker 1: Sorry, I was.

627
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: It was it was I was in the church.

628
00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:35,559
Speaker 4: That's well, yeah, much better camp.

629
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeahmination they want to they require me to repeat that.

630
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 4: It's not it was Silent Hill camp. I was in

631
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,039
the medical facility for a while.

632
00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:49,559
Speaker 1: Yes, no, but I never went as a like an

633
00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:52,720
actual camper. I want to, So.

634
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 4: You're going to bring like like some shorts in a

635
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,920
frisbee or something like.

636
00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: So it's three days and they got there's twenty four

637
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,240
of us that applied. So there's some So Manyer's there's

638
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,920
some wine writers. There's some wine. Actually, there's some a

639
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,599
couple of wine makers from Oregon and Washington, Mary, who

640
00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:11,319
are growing reasoning there, but they want to come to

641
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:13,119
the Finger Lakes because that's generally where the best reasoning

642
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,279
has grown in the country.

643
00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 4: Do you know them? Do you know them?

644
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:16,279
Speaker 1: Mary?

645
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 4: It's Bill and Linda and I.

646
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,759
Speaker 3: Know like two wineries here. And every time I go,

647
00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:25,400
I take a photo and send it to Mike and go,

648
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,599
I'm out a winery. I think you'd like it here,

649
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,119
and he's always like, that's great, Mary, You're.

650
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,079
Speaker 2: Near some really, really fucking good wineries in.

651
00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:35,559
Speaker 3: That we have stunningly beautiful wineries. But I'm not a

652
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,519
wine person. So when I go, they're always like, what

653
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:41,279
are you looking for today? And I always go, you know.

654
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:44,039
Speaker 1: Me, I've never met you before. Man.

655
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:49,799
Speaker 3: Probably insufferable because I don't know what I want or

656
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,480
like outside of please not too sweet. That's like all

657
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:54,519
I say usually is like please, I don't want like

658
00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:57,680
a sugar wine, but like other than that, I would

659
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:00,519
like I would like all of your wines that are

660
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:03,240
not expensively right.

661
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:06,039
Speaker 2: That's honestly, that's better than most people. Not most.

662
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say there's you'd be surprised what people say

663
00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:12,839
they like or don't like a like at the wine bar.

664
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,359
Speaker 2: And that's kind of my job to figure out what

665
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,319
the best thing would be.

666
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:19,319
Speaker 3: What that means, like to decipher when someone goes like, uh,

667
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,559
I just want something that has like an acidity to it,

668
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:27,000
but I don't want it to have hot a lot

669
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:27,599
of tannins.

670
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,559
Speaker 1: I don't like that. That sounds good, that's good.

671
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that I'm making it up. I was trying to

672
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:35,200
pretend to be sufferable.

673
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,319
Speaker 1: I have to try hard sufferable. Like it's the there's

674
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,680
two people, there's there's like the guy who's and it's

675
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:44,039
mostly a guy that most of the time who's like

676
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:47,240
trying to flex their It was like me four years ago,

677
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:49,160
I would be the person trying to show to somebody

678
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,920
that was and like now I'm like, oh god, is

679
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,279
this what I look seemed like.

680
00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:56,519
Speaker 4: This a lignify that this lignify enough on the.

681
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: Grape yellow you're in.

682
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: I can tell you how to combat that.

683
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: You just got to fold in some mustard planet, it'll

684
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,599
kill all the Nema toades that acts as a bio fume.

685
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: Again, trust me, you'll be fine.

686
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 4: And then if you started at over one hundred and

687
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,680
twenty degrees somewhere, because.

688
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,119
Speaker 3: Man's Wikipedia page is still open.

689
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,559
Speaker 1: There is anybody else getting per simon? Is that just me?

690
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,599
Speaker 2: I am a supertaster?

691
00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:19,839
Speaker 6: No?

692
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: But uh no, so you're having a stroke. One of

693
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,119
the famous.

694
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:26,599
Speaker 1: Ones, Like one of the infamous things is someone will say,

695
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,440
like I would like a dry wine.

696
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,039
Speaker 2: What dry means is there's no.

697
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: Resipition sweet, right, right, so you know what you're talking

698
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,480
about a lot of people, however, and I get I

699
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:37,039
get how this is kind of part of like the

700
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,640
it's vernacular. What they mean is they want a wine

701
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,599
that's not fruit forward, like people conflate dry and like

702
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,880
more mineral driven. That's not the same thing. Dry just

703
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,920
means there's not any discernible uh residual sugar.

704
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:55,319
Speaker 3: But okay, so they're confusing, they're conflating, which is fine

705
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:56,200
with sugar.

706
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: Right, But that's fine. I'm not blaming them. I'm saying

707
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,880
it's our job to know what they are.

708
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: Actually, Yes, you ever, do you ever say listen here,

709
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:05,799
you don't even know what you want.

710
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what you are, and I'll go

711
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,480
get you your.

712
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: She loves that. Women and wineries love to be called Karen's.

713
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:17,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to carry around like a bottle of Josh.

714
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:20,759
So if that woman ever crosses me again in her

715
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,039
Mercedes and be like, oh, here's your Josh Karen, I

716
00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:26,599
don't even know what that means. Is that even very

717
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,359
very shitty wine wine?

718
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: It's like a yeah, it's like barefoot.

719
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, worse than Barefoot.

720
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 4: I would say, wow, it's bare shade. I can't believe shade.

721
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I've never seen anyone talk about Josh wine before.

722
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I mean I look like hanging out.

723
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,039
Speaker 3: You and I are not in the same circles. We're

724
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:52,960
not nearly the same bars. I don't I don't know

725
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,839
this stuff. I brought Josh to a party before.

726
00:33:56,039 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 7: I've probably embarrassed Josh.

727
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 4: That's the thing we're not.

728
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,599
Speaker 3: I will not be embarrassed in my basement.

729
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: Is amazing. I don't know. No, No, it's fine. Like again,

730
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,079
if I'm like that's part of being at the wine

731
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:20,679
bar too. A lot of people will be like, do

732
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,679
you have anything like Joshua was like, okay, I know

733
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,519
what they're talking about.

734
00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: I will give something.

735
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: I will bring them something I think has similar qualities

736
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,199
but is better.

737
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: Fine, Like I don't.

738
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: Expect people are like, oh, do you get pissed off?

739
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,599
And people put ice in their wine and I was like, no,

740
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,679
if they like it, go for it. They're the ones

741
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,599
who bought it. I'm not going to tell them what

742
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,920
they're enjoying is not worth enjoying.

743
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 3: How do you know?

744
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: I think josh is poorly made wine.

745
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:45,679
Speaker 1: But if people are like, if they're enjoying it, that's

746
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:48,320
what like the crowd pleaser to party who might to say,

747
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,320
don't bring josh but don't.

748
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I won't bring Joshua party, But how do you know?

749
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:57,679
You know when someone's putting on airs like in your world,

750
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,639
I'm sure there's a lot of people who are like

751
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:03,719
I specifically said that I wanted this type of wine.

752
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,679
You're like, totally, I hear you, and I know a

753
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:07,199
lot more about wine than you. So I'm going to

754
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,840
go into the back and get you the right wine.

755
00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:10,440
And you give it to them and then they're like,

756
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:14,039
this isn't anything what I said, And you're like it is, though,

757
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,119
like what do you do in that situation?

758
00:35:16,639 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: I honestly don't think you'd recognize me when I'm there

759
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:25,960
because I am the least confrontational persons. I honestly has

760
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,000
been really humbling because I, yeah, there are every once

761
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:31,880
in a while there are dicks coming in.

762
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: I should you not.

763
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:35,079
Speaker 1: This doesn't shock me.

764
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:35,639
Speaker 3: I am not.

765
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: A wine bar, so like that's the thing. As much

766
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,239
as the more I've got into it, the more I've

767
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,719
met some incredible people. I just went to a Peasant

768
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,800
last night. It's an Italian spot in Nolita, and it

769
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,840
was one of the best dining experiences I've had in

770
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,199
a long time. This head Somier's name is Mike. He's

771
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,639
like one of the most hospitable people, incredibly cool, very

772
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,320
very knowledgeable, but like he knows how to beak to

773
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,400
tables and not be a douche about it. And it

774
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:06,239
just won like a few awards deservedly. After one night,

775
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,360
I was like, Okay, I totally see it, But like

776
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,639
there is also there are the people in the wine

777
00:36:11,639 --> 00:36:15,920
industry who absolutely live up to the snobbery reputation and

778
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,719
douchey reputation. But the wine bar work at Like we

779
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,280
try first and foremost to make sure there's party vibes.

780
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,920
The wine is kind of just conducive toward that, and

781
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,400
it's not like we are all very knowledgeable about wine.

782
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,800
But we also like if someone comes in and they

783
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,119
find out that I work in video games, I connect

784
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:34,719
with them more on that and then the what like

785
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,840
some wine geeks will come in and I can geek

786
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,280
out with them. There are many people come in and

787
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,320
want to talk about like Claire Obscure with me, or

788
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,679
talk about Warhammer and like that is like those are

789
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,320
the regulars who come back because they found a different

790
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,679
connection with you outside of wine. And that's the kind

791
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:54,159
of stuff where it's the dicks who are like they

792
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:55,880
think they know what they like. And again it's like

793
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,000
our job. It's not our job to tell them they're wrong.

794
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:00,519
It's our job to figure out what they really do like,

795
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:03,159
which is definitely a balancing act and it can be

796
00:37:03,199 --> 00:37:07,119
tough sometimes, Like you could be like, Okay, I know

797
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,639
you like that, We've got that, but let me try

798
00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:11,199
this this cool thing that we just got.

799
00:37:11,199 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: If you don't like it, I'll bring back.

800
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,159
Speaker 1: And I'm what I'm doing is I'm bringing something I

801
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:17,440
think they actually mean they want, even if they don't think.

802
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,519
And then I'm framing it as like this adventurous, cool

803
00:37:20,559 --> 00:37:24,159
little thing that and then they'll be like, holy shit,

804
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,239
that's amazing, like I was like, So then they leave thinking, oh,

805
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,360
I have this cool new style of wine I didn't

806
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,679
know I liked, when in reality I was like, okay,

807
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:33,159
I just based on what they were saying, I think

808
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,880
that's what they were trying to get the bottles to.

809
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:36,519
Speaker 4: Josh.

810
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:38,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so.

811
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Warhammer, bring up Warring pour the Josh into a

812
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,719
big cup.

813
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: No Ice, no ice, my Josh. Please. I sent Dana

814
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,960
a text last night because my wine director at the

815
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,840
bar just found a just Ford Coppola bottle of wine

816
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,199
on auction with an Apocalypse Now themed label and it

817
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,079
was signed by a Coppola, which these days, I don't

818
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:09,559
know how much you want that, but I sent it

819
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:11,800
to Dan the pockey saw the Apocalypse Now, was like,

820
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,000
I think I'm a wine guy now. It was a

821
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,400
magnum I should mention, So I really want to see

822
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,000
this bottle just.

823
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,559
Speaker 3: Because all the things that Dan likes. Yeah, I think

824
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:21,559
I'd be a sucker for stuff like that. I would

825
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:25,199
say that generally, when buying wine, I am very influenced

826
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,480
on whether or not there is an animal on the label.

827
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: Here you go, do you avoid those or you like it?

828
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm all in. If it's got a bird on it,

829
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,719
I probably will buy it. If it's got a dog

830
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,400
on it, I'm very interested. Like I love it when

831
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,079
they have like some kind of like bird dog wine situation,

832
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:40,880
I'm like, what's up with that?

833
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:42,679
Speaker 4: Good?

834
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,519
Speaker 1: I don't know it right now?

835
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:50,079
Speaker 3: That's that's so coded, but I don't. I yeah, but

836
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:52,360
I don't think I'm making the proper decisions. But it's

837
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,000
cool to see your mask as well of being like,

838
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,280
you know, someone's like this isn't anything, but I want

839
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,840
You're like totally, I get it, Like let me go

840
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:00,280
on the bag.

841
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,519
Speaker 1: I'm the most patient person when I'm there to survive

842
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,159
and then I don't know what it is because I

843
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:08,960
didn't think I would either have. That was my main

844
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,800
worry when I was like, I I don't know. There

845
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,000
are some Most people I run into in the company

846
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:19,599
are incredibly gracious guests.

847
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: They're super cool.

848
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: There's always a dick that comes in or there's always

849
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:24,639
someone who there's the.

850
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,559
Speaker 4: What's the what's the most dickish thing.

851
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, something.

852
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: This one guy I think still takes the cake for

853
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,360
I've been there a little more than a year, and

854
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,840
I'm only I'm there in my free time purely, so

855
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,480
like again, I'm using some of my free time to

856
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:43,480
be here, which makes it even more annoying when someone's

857
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,280
a dick. He came in, he was you could I

858
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,559
just could tell he was someone who was going to

859
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:52,239
be using a corporate card. I don't know how to

860
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,599
explain it. You could just tell. And also the people

861
00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:56,480
he was, Oh, this looks like a work happy hours, like, oh,

862
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:59,039
we're we're here, We're gonna buy some gonna drop some

863
00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:00,840
money on some great bottle. I was like, all right, cool,

864
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,280
you're in the right place. Like that's not how I

865
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,880
would phrase it when I walk into a wine boy.

866
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,119
Speaker 4: That's what That's what they actually said when they waste lots.

867
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,639
Speaker 3: Of money on wine with you tonight.

868
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm gonna here drop some money in

869
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,800
some cool bottles. It's like, all right, my gosh, what

870
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,599
bro Yep. He sits down and uh, he starts asking me.

871
00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:19,840
He knew what he was talking about. In some respects,

872
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,360
He's like, what it was what was the difference. Do

873
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,559
you think this eighty six is cooked? I'm like no,

874
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,679
I was like, no, eighty six, eighty nine on the

875
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,199
left bank of Bordeaux should be fantastic. Still, I'd be

876
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,159
really interested tote the other taste, and then he's like,

877
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:33,320
all right, let's try it out. And then this whole

878
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:38,679
other table, these two I don't know, mid twenties women

879
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,599
were there and they literally they're like, can I have

880
00:40:41,679 --> 00:40:43,639
your cheapest bottle of wine? I was like, absolutely, I'll

881
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:45,400
go grab it, and it was actually, we don't have

882
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,320
any bad bottles.

883
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: It was still a bit one, but it was like.

884
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 4: It's not yeah, like serving Josh. These people.

885
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:59,559
Speaker 3: Yellow Josh out there. We don't like your wine, and.

886
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:03,039
Speaker 1: So and so these I will say, these two women

887
00:41:03,159 --> 00:41:06,760
had gotten into another bottle, and I just having talked

888
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,559
to them, I was prepared at some point to maybe

889
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:10,400
have to cut them off.

890
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 2: They were just being like, oh.

891
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, do this douche guy who walks in. Turns

892
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:20,000
out one of the people he was there with recognized

893
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:23,760
one of the girls from like college, so they combined tables.

894
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,039
So in my head, I'm like, okay, So those two,

895
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,079
especially one of these girls was definitely getting pretty hammered.

896
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,239
So I was like, Okay, I gotta keep that in mind.

897
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,880
They're combining tables. Okay, so he got this, uh this

898
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,079
Coast Dester nell I don't think that's the it's a

899
00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:42,480
it's it was a really good bottle of Coast Dester

900
00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:51,639
Nollari on this podcast, and so and I remember, uh,

901
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,119
I was trying to if someone gets a nice bottle,

902
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:57,119
we have nicer glasses we bring out. There's a bit

903
00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:59,599
of like, it's they're just nicer glasses.

904
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 4: You wow.

905
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's several the Mark Thomas glasses. They're they're great.

906
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,679
I have them here. I love them, but like they're expensive.

907
00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 3: What's your limit? What kind of bottle do you have

908
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,320
to get to get the nice glass?

909
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,199
Speaker 1: It's we also bring out just for regulars people we

910
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:19,480
liked them. Someone on the list is spending over like

911
00:42:19,519 --> 00:42:21,960
one hundred and fifty, then we'll bring them out because

912
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:26,440
because the breakage on those is way more like breaking

913
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,639
those is worth you lose way more. So you want

914
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:29,960
to make sure the bottle you bring it out like

915
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,599
would make up for it. That's the thinking. So I

916
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,400
was like, okay, well he got this bottle of wine.

917
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: Which was way more expensive than that.

918
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,199
Speaker 1: So it's like, I'm going to bring out the Mark

919
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:42,639
Thomas is for them, keeping in mind that this girl

920
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,320
who's now at their table is hammered and likely to

921
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,119
break one of these. So I kind of was trying

922
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:50,639
to and they these two girls already had the They're

923
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:52,800
not shitty glasses. Our base glasses are still super nice,

924
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,159
but they're like not as expensive.

925
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: They had the base class cool they wanted.

926
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:58,039
Speaker 2: They combined. So there's five of them.

927
00:42:58,039 --> 00:42:58,199
Speaker 8: Now.

928
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,159
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, cool, I'll go get a I'll

929
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:01,920
go get four glasses for the bordou. He's like, there's

930
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,280
five of us. Why would you get four glasses? So

931
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,519
I was like, okay, I'll go get them. So and

932
00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:09,159
then like as I heard as he walked away, he's like,

933
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:11,239
what the fucks? He talked, why why five glasses? So

934
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,639
I was like, okay, so I bring back my glasses.

935
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,119
I bring back all five, and I put them down

936
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:18,960
and I pour the He tastes the wine, he loves it,

937
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,679
and I pour them all and I walk away, and

938
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:24,119
fucking ten minutes later, she stands up to go like

939
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:26,239
like freshen herself in the bathroom, breaks one of the

940
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,960
glasses and I went back and I brought her to

941
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,239
replace that. I brought back one of our bass classes

942
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,840
that not Mark Thomas. And he's like, why does she

943
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,920
get why does she get that glass? I was like, wait,

944
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,920
he can tell Oh they're very very different looking glasses.

945
00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:43,480
A yeah, yeah, yeah, so and like, mind you the

946
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:46,480
glass I bring over is not shitty. But he's like,

947
00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:49,199
why do why didn't Why did you give her that glass?

948
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,760
I was like, oh, I was just like So here's

949
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,760
where he got pissed off. And I did not mean.

950
00:43:56,559 --> 00:43:58,519
I was like, oh, these ones are just more durable.

951
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,719
He's like, oh, you think she's gonna break another? I

952
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,079
was like all right, man, like I'm just I yes, I.

953
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: Would not like to break more of these.

954
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: And he's like, dude, I just you know how much

955
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,320
money I just dropped in this bottle. I was like, yes,

956
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,239
I know, I know how much the bottle costs. I

957
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,679
got how much was the bottle? Was there like a

958
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,679
couple of hundred It was more than that. It was like, oh, okay,

959
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:18,320
the two thousand and nine Coast US I think it

960
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,360
was like eight hundred dollars on the list.

961
00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: I mean, she could break a couple of glasses, not

962
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,599
to defend his dickhead, but like.

963
00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, you should taking a glass and just throw it

964
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,800
on the floor and be like, yeah, let.

965
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 3: Me, let me get ahead of it. Yeah, I'm on

966
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:32,800
step five here.

967
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 4: I'll just bring a whole new round of glasses. Let's

968
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,920
just throw this ship.

969
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: Anybody else want in lest this guy not sound like

970
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:41,960
a dick to you yet in the story, I also

971
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,239
overheard him hurt him saying later one of the girls

972
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,320
complimented his shoes, He's wearing these loafers. He's like, oh,

973
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,840
yeah either uh I got the burgundy color because I

974
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,159
fucking love burgundy wine.

975
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:51,559
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my.

976
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 4: God, this sounds cool.

977
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,199
Speaker 1: He doesn't listen to fire Escape. That'd be funny because

978
00:44:57,639 --> 00:44:58,960
there's absolutely no doubt as to who he.

979
00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:02,639
Speaker 3: It's me, Burgundy shoe guy. I'm passed.

980
00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: You come storming in with a bunch of Mark Thomas

981
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,079
glasses whipping them around the bar.

982
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:10,039
Speaker 4: Next kind, well, what if he's laughing, He's like, oh man,

983
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:13,039
what an ass. And then somebody's like, you got burgundy shoes,

984
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:16,679
and'd be like, yeah, but you are the coke duster.

985
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a nine coke duster.

986
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: Got your number.

987
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: And it's also a thing where it's like obviously you

988
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,639
vent with the people you work with after the shift

989
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,559
or during so you could point out the people you'll

990
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:32,199
go out to be like this fucking seat three at

991
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:35,480
a table eighteen, fucking giant douche and they'll be we'll

992
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,800
look glance at them. Oh yeah, absolutely. So we get

993
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,000
people like that all the time at the bars in Soho,

994
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:42,760
Like you get some some characters like that, but you

995
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,440
also get amazing people. And I work with unreal people

996
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,119
and they're just like I have. It's been very, very humbling,

997
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,559
like how much fucking work goes into it. Like I

998
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:53,920
you think you know a decent amount about wine, and

999
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,599
then you're on the spot next to a table who

1000
00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:57,440
doesn't necessarily know what they want, and you have like

1001
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,280
twenty five hundred bottles in the cellar to like choose from,

1002
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,800
and you have to get the exact right one that's

1003
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,719
gonna hopefully make their night very memorable.

1004
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 4: It's disappointed when you bring the bottle and not for me.

1005
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 3: What do you do with a bottle that someone says

1006
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,000
they don't want? You throw it away?

1007
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:18,079
Speaker 1: If they pay a certain if they're getting an expense no, no, no, no,

1008
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:22,920
we would try to h if if they didn't, if

1009
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,599
they sent it back, you would try to sell it

1010
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:26,679
by the glass to people who might appreciate it more.

1011
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:32,239
But if well, not everybody is gonna like the grim right,

1012
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,039
everybody can.

1013
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: Have a different taste. But if I don't like a

1014
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,960
glass of wine, do you guys put it in a jar,

1015
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:38,960
shake it.

1016
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:46,519
Speaker 1: Up when you're tasting the wine. If you committed to

1017
00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:48,960
buying a bottle, you're not seeing whether you like it.

1018
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:51,639
You're making sure it's not flawed, like there's no cortain

1019
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,280
or it's not like cooked, it's not I n like.

1020
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 5: That.

1021
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,639
Speaker 4: You know, well that the name I have her here

1022
00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:04,880
in a while, but go ahead.

1023
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: You have my attention.

1024
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: Cork tape you missed no, so yeah, it's like it's

1025
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,800
a chemical reaction that happens in the cork. It can

1026
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,199
house a bacteria called trichlora in us all but they

1027
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,559
you would know what if you smell it smells like

1028
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:22,719
wet cardboard?

1029
00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:28,039
Speaker 3: Right, Why the bottle is fox like moldy or something?

1030
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 4: Has that ever happened?

1031
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:29,639
Speaker 1: Oh?

1032
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it used to have way more.

1033
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 7: It used to be like yeah more often then, Look,

1034
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:39,239
this episode is brought to you by rig a little

1035
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,159
gilis uh cork tape.

1036
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,639
Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of a lot of people

1037
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:48,559
don't get their cork taino happens more often than.

1038
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: We will find it and we'll sniff it out.

1039
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 4: We knows offer a code fire escape your first order.

1040
00:47:57,079 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: Check out sniff dot com.

1041
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 2: We got a mile away. Dude, I'm the cork taint King.

1042
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 4: So ho I have heard that. I've seen that scrawled.

1043
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:12,119
Speaker 6: I've seen that in a bathroom stall, seating that on walls.

1044
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,599
Speaker 1: Called the cork ta King. Good cork.

1045
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 4: So happy you're wearing the silver thread vineyard shirt and

1046
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,599
not a cork cartained shirt.

1047
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.

1048
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,039
Speaker 1: No body winery at reasoning Camp and I got like

1049
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:33,639
paired with them. They're have kind of my go to

1050
00:48:33,679 --> 00:48:34,679
if I have any questions.

1051
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 4: Of course, buddy needs a campaign. You should wear cork

1052
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:39,400
tain shirts.

1053
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,159
Speaker 2: I'm just saying you should. Yeah, It's funny.

1054
00:48:42,199 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: Cortet is such a like it's we use the term

1055
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,039
so often I don't realize how weird it sounds. But

1056
00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:49,159
now I'm having that like semestic satiation. It's not the

1057
00:48:49,199 --> 00:48:50,719
same thing, but now that I'm saying out loud and

1058
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,320
you're reacting. It is a weird phrase.

1059
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah right there.

1060
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:02,599
Speaker 3: Name got to make sure that we all were on

1061
00:49:02,639 --> 00:49:03,360
the same page.

1062
00:49:03,519 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: We can't take corkage because corkage.

1063
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 4: So I ordered a bottle once and uh I had

1064
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,719
to send it back because in a leakage? Is that? Yeah?

1065
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I ordered a bottle once and I tried

1066
00:49:16,519 --> 00:49:17,840
to boof it and they kicked me out of the

1067
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:18,800
bar for some reason.

1068
00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, he goes really yeah, really.

1069
00:49:26,119 --> 00:49:30,039
Speaker 2: The bar, I'm borking that bottle of shield.

1070
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:33,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fine, Anyway, I know there's I have the

1071
00:49:33,519 --> 00:49:35,440
most respect for people in the service industry.

1072
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: It's it's fucking hard.

1073
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,519
Speaker 4: But okay, do you if something gets cork tainted, you

1074
00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:43,079
drink it in the back? No, this is that bad?

1075
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:48,079
Is it really that gross? No, it's not a bit

1076
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:49,760
of a little bit.

1077
00:49:50,159 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: They're they're like, if you if you get an old

1078
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,559
enough bottle, you're accepting that there's a higher generally speaking,

1079
00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:57,480
there's a higher risk that something might have happened. There's

1080
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,679
a lot of flaws or something called britannamcees that could

1081
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:03,480
be in there. There's something light strike can happen where

1082
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,920
it literally cool. It makes the flip fruit taste like

1083
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,039
cooked oxidized, but uh light strike smells more like a

1084
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:10,639
dirty drain.

1085
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:11,639
Speaker 2: You would not want to drink it.

1086
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 4: Jesus, what the are you serving over there?

1087
00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:17,559
Speaker 1: It's inside each bottle, there's any number.

1088
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 3: What's your problem?

1089
00:50:20,639 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 4: This one tastes rat It gave.

1090
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:26,119
Speaker 3: You the durable glass because you look like a fucking moron.

1091
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I fucking here's the durable glass.

1092
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 4: Nice loafers.

1093
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:37,599
Speaker 1: Shoes.

1094
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:42,639
Speaker 3: I wonder what kind of whiney likes.

1095
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: You fucking dwarp.

1096
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's uh no that you would.

1097
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: I have the most respect for the industry.

1098
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,599
Speaker 1: It's not so much. I'll save the next bottle that

1099
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,519
I get some some t c A and it you

1100
00:50:59,519 --> 00:50:59,960
could swell.

1101
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:11,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's so greedy with that cork team.

1102
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll see something for you.

1103
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,199
Speaker 4: Guys.

1104
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,159
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you just you just give me a

1105
00:51:16,199 --> 00:51:18,960
speeded up motion? Am I lingering too much on cork tape?

1106
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:21,559
You are doing the bit? I was trying to educate

1107
00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:26,239
you rap the other day when someone did something stupid

1108
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,800
to you and then they said, are you are you rapping? Okay,

1109
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:30,960
you want to tut videos?

1110
00:51:33,159 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 4: We're at time.

1111
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk aboutdeo games.

1112
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1113
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a drink. This is ridiculous.

1114
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:43,599
Speaker 4: He just left.

1115
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,519
Speaker 3: Uh he likes to be the host. But I felt

1116
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:50,440
that it had run its course.

1117
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,199
Speaker 4: I agree to you. I agree with you like a

1118
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,800
bad wine. And when it had run its course.

1119
00:51:57,079 --> 00:51:59,599
Speaker 1: All right, weird the dance not here because he was

1120
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:03,559
the one who is pushing Pragmata really hard early on

1121
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:06,320
and recommending it. Holy fuck, that's my one of my

1122
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,039
favorite games.

1123
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: I played in years.

1124
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: I like Pragmata a lot, so I know the Dead

1125
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,559
Space comparisons are Superdad.

1126
00:52:14,039 --> 00:52:17,639
Speaker 3: Space is what they're calling it. Isn't that so cute?

1127
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 2: That's nice?

1128
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was like it somehow didn't register with

1129
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,039
me until I got to the Emergency Shelter. They basically

1130
00:52:25,039 --> 00:52:28,280
have Resident Evil save room music in the Emergency Shelter,

1131
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,559
which I love. Yeah, it's the that like relaxing and

1132
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:34,599
you could. I was like, oh right, it's capcom. Of course,

1133
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:36,440
they're pulling from Resident Evil a lot here too, but

1134
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,400
Dead Space just makes more sense because you're in space.

1135
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,079
But I love that game. I'm telling Mary and Jake

1136
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:43,920
and Dan in our discords, like that's the this is

1137
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,239
the first game I'm actively trying two hundred percent the challenges,

1138
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,360
which are amazing. There's like a neon white aspect to those,

1139
00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:56,079
like really the perfecting those finding all the collectibles, the

1140
00:52:56,119 --> 00:52:58,360
metro adveny, aspects of going back to an area now

1141
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,079
that I can clear out those crystals.

1142
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 3: So you can jump higher. Oh, the difficulty rooms are interesting.

1143
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,559
Those rooms where it's like, don't go in here, these

1144
00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:08,360
are really tough. The red card gate, the red card rooms,

1145
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:09,159
those are funs.

1146
00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: Like just that hacking mechanic is so novel, And yeah,

1147
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,920
like the game does the boss fights. You had so

1148
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,280
many interesting like twists on that it's oh, it's unreal.

1149
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,039
We talked about it in the last episode. But like

1150
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,320
the game is just so well paced. I will say

1151
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,719
I do find myself wishing while I like that, there's

1152
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,679
a lot of quality of life, like just getting around

1153
00:53:32,679 --> 00:53:34,800
the game. The tram system makes it super easy to

1154
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,719
know where you're going. I do miss the connective tissue

1155
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,960
that dead Space had between the areas. Obviously, once you

1156
00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:43,920
unlock the tram or even Hollow Night, once you unlock

1157
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,159
the the is it a tram or the bug that

1158
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,920
takes you around, Like, yeah, it's a super nice touch.

1159
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,920
But like before that, you're getting a better sense of

1160
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,280
the overall map because you have to manually travel.

1161
00:53:54,639 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: I kind of actually miss that.

1162
00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: It's so compartmentalized and segmented the pragmata that I wish

1163
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,840
I could see more. Betwe mean, maybe they'll do that.

1164
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,880
I hope there's gonna be a sequel. It just feels

1165
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:03,920
like it could be a pretty.

1166
00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 3: Sure feels franchise.

1167
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, game's phenomenal. The combat is incredible, The

1168
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,239
world itself is super cool.

1169
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,599
Speaker 4: How far are you? Where are you at?

1170
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure I'm in the last if you're

1171
00:54:18,199 --> 00:54:20,320
looking so the map is like a circle. I'm in

1172
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:25,360
the last node. I just did the Actually, maybe I'm not.

1173
00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:32,280
I just did the Did she get hurt? Yes?

1174
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 4: You guys talk about spoilers on the show, or do you?

1175
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 3: We try? We try not to do endgame spoilers, and

1176
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,440
if we do, we tell our audience like skip ahead.

1177
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,480
I would like to say in this one, broadly, I

1178
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,880
don't think it's a crazy spoiler that one of the

1179
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:51,679
characters can get hurt, So fine, these are not story spoilers.

1180
00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:55,559
Speaker 1: The emergency shelter, it appears I'm at the peak up

1181
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,679
Emergency Shelter level M four. I think I think four

1182
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,199
might be the top of maybe there's one past it.

1183
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,199
But yeah, I played like eight hours, I'd say, so,

1184
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,440
I think I'm toward the end.

1185
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 3: Like my spicy people are saying, it's like twelve hours, ish,

1186
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,440
I think? Is what I what I'm gathering. Finny, you've

1187
00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:15,280
completed it.

1188
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:16,079
Speaker 4: I did.

1189
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 3: How many hours did you put into it?

1190
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: And what do you know?

1191
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 3: What do you think?

1192
00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:23,079
Speaker 4: I really liked it? I also did the one hundred

1193
00:55:23,079 --> 00:55:27,880
percent completion on everything. Yes, and so the I did

1194
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,039
not get the Platinum trophy because there is a thing,

1195
00:55:32,119 --> 00:55:34,719
and I don't think this is spoiler ish, but there

1196
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,679
is a thing post game where it opens up a

1197
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:40,320
new difficulty that you then have to beat it on

1198
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,519
to get the trophy Platinum.

1199
00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:45,639
Speaker 3: I was playing on difficulty?

1200
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: Is it?

1201
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 3: Because is it just lunatic?

1202
00:55:48,519 --> 00:55:50,679
Speaker 4: I think they call it is the name of the difficulty.

1203
00:55:50,679 --> 00:55:53,880
It's the hardest. It's a harder difficulty, but it's not

1204
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,639
a new game. Plus, so you you wind up being

1205
00:55:56,639 --> 00:55:58,519
able to bring some stuff in but not all of

1206
00:55:58,519 --> 00:56:01,199
your upgraded weapons, and you basically just have to play

1207
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,800
the game over on this harder difficulty.

1208
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,159
Speaker 3: Oh, I wouldn't enjoy that is much starting over from scratch.

1209
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, you kind of have to start from scratch. I

1210
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:10,519
mean you have some stuff that is a postgame, but

1211
00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:12,920
not not like you would in a new game play.

1212
00:56:13,559 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: I will say, because you're the handgun whatever, the grip

1213
00:56:17,519 --> 00:56:24,559
gun has infinite AMMO and the hacking, the game feels like,

1214
00:56:24,679 --> 00:56:28,360
even if it's very very difficult, you can theoretically beat

1215
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:31,840
every fight if you are like, if you understand the

1216
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,320
game well enough, like similar to a Elden Ring or whatever,

1217
00:56:34,519 --> 00:56:38,599
you could technically beat Marget at like level ten if

1218
00:56:38,679 --> 00:56:41,440
you are good enough. It feels like that hacking kind

1219
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,400
of levels things in a way that it's like, Okay,

1220
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,920
well I might be able to beat this boss right now,

1221
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,599
but instead I'm going to go collect way more shit

1222
00:56:47,639 --> 00:56:52,239
and upgrade my health, my dodge, thruster, recharge, et cetera.

1223
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:56,239
So I appreciate that that's kind of a there's like

1224
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,320
an accessibility to that, Like resu belfour had the thing

1225
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,440
where if you die too many times in a row,

1226
00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:02,440
the game won't tell you it's lowering the difficulty, but

1227
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,159
it is. It feels like it's like a cool way

1228
00:57:05,199 --> 00:57:07,800
of handling difficulty. The hacking can if you get good

1229
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,079
at it, you can really just fly through a lot

1230
00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:13,800
of difficult fights, even some of the red card gate things.

1231
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,639
When I'm in a flow, stay in that game, I

1232
00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:17,880
feel like I'm not getting touched. Then of course I

1233
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,280
have bad days where I'm like, oh my god, I'm

1234
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:19,960
getting sucked up.

1235
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm rushing.

1236
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: You have to kind of balance being patient with the

1237
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:30,400
hacking and being aggressive enough when someone is exposed. Yeah,

1238
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,199
there's there's one challenge room that took me forever to

1239
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,840
figure out. It was the medic when they introduced the medic.

1240
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, the little box that he the other Yeah.

1241
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,719
Speaker 1: And you only have the riot gun, the one that

1242
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,360
just does the AoE blast, and your grip gun, and

1243
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,440
there's five of five shots from the shotgun, and you

1244
00:57:50,519 --> 00:57:53,400
have to figure out I don't even necessarily know. I

1245
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:58,239
was like, oh shit, wait, so if I damage anyone,

1246
00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:01,039
the medicalill fly over to them. So, okay, I'm gonna shoot.

1247
00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:02,960
I'm not even gonna hack this enemy. I'm gonna shoot

1248
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,800
them quick with the grip gun that's going to bring

1249
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:05,599
the medic over.

1250
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: And then I'm able to ryot to knock all them

1251
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:08,599
out and.

1252
00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: Then yet and then also I will say, like one

1253
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,079
I when I unlock the the critical like when you

1254
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:17,400
go up to them and just press R and he

1255
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:18,639
puts it right up to their end.

1256
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,599
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, so satisfying.

1257
00:58:21,639 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: And then you fight certain bosses where that's necessary you

1258
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,559
need to go up and do that to them, like

1259
00:58:25,559 --> 00:58:26,239
the animation.

1260
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:27,119
Speaker 2: They're amazing with those.

1261
00:58:27,559 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 4: So the the medic one is really interesting. I learned

1262
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:33,679
so much from doing those cabin challenges. Uh and and like, oh,

1263
00:58:33,679 --> 00:58:35,039
I guess I didn't know how to play this game

1264
00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:36,639
before that, so I like I would do them be

1265
00:58:36,639 --> 00:58:38,960
like I just can't. The way I'm playing this game

1266
00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:40,719
is not beating this challenge. You must want me to

1267
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,119
do it a different way, just like you were saying

1268
00:58:43,079 --> 00:58:45,480
when you if you shoot an enemy and the medic

1269
00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:47,719
goes over and then you hack the medic, it does

1270
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,400
so much damage to the enemy's healing when yeah yeah, yeah,

1271
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,599
so if you hack the medic while it's healing, it

1272
00:58:54,599 --> 00:58:56,880
does a ton of damage to the enemy that it's

1273
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,320
healing and to the medic itself. Yeah. So I there's

1274
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,559
a ton of things like that. But there's some late

1275
00:59:02,599 --> 00:59:04,199
game weapons that I was just like, you just got

1276
00:59:04,239 --> 00:59:06,760
so many weapons that I wasn't using, and then some

1277
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,239
of the challenges made you use them, and I was like, damn,

1278
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,800
this weapon is so good. I just never used it

1279
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:14,519
and kind of had to learn how to use it

1280
00:59:14,639 --> 00:59:18,480
and use it efficiently. There was so much in that

1281
00:59:18,519 --> 00:59:22,400
game that felt fresh to me gameplay wise. It's one

1282
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,719
of the few games I really enjoyed despite not really

1283
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,199
latching onto the story in it as much. I just

1284
00:59:28,239 --> 00:59:31,360
have a cold stone heart, so that just makes sense

1285
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:31,639
for me.

1286
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,039
Speaker 3: But like the only dad on this podcast, not connecting

1287
00:59:35,079 --> 00:59:36,960
to the story is not lost on me.

1288
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 4: I found you, the main character, to be such a

1289
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,239
dope that I was just like, You're like the kid

1290
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,440
would often be like, you know, like wow, that's so wow.

1291
00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:51,440
You have to you can get nourishment from eating. It'd

1292
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,159
be like, not just nourishment for your body, nourishment for

1293
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,199
your soul, Diana, and she'd be like, you get sole nourishment.

1294
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,239
That's right, when people gather around the table to tell

1295
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,119
tales of their day. It would nourish your soul. By

1296
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:07,039
the way, don't forget I was adopted.

1297
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: Organs like every inconsistency in the very first cut scene,

1298
01:00:15,519 --> 01:00:18,599
or like the intro, he's surprised to learn that one

1299
01:00:18,599 --> 01:00:20,960
of his crew mates had a kid.

1300
01:00:21,639 --> 01:00:32,079
Speaker 3: You got a kid, This guy's got kids. Everybody makes

1301
01:00:32,199 --> 01:00:32,800
of this loser.

1302
01:00:33,679 --> 01:00:35,599
Speaker 1: What they were just my teammates, they were my best friends.

1303
01:00:35,679 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: But you didn't know.

1304
01:00:38,679 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 3: You didn't know one of them children.

1305
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: We don't.

1306
01:00:44,519 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't come off Mike.

1307
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 4: We'll talk about that.

1308
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 6: We're not talking about that. We don't talk home at shop.

1309
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,960
I knew exactly what kind of beer and wine he drank. Okay,

1310
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,159
he was a giant Okay, yeah.

1311
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so uh yeah, I found him either,

1312
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:04,679
but like.

1313
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought the kid was cute and like

1314
01:01:08,119 --> 01:01:11,039
the you know, it's like it's like a it's like

1315
01:01:11,079 --> 01:01:14,719
a goblin. The kid's like a little goblin, just like

1316
01:01:14,719 --> 01:01:16,719
like just running around being like look what I'm doing.

1317
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,440
I'm like hacking things. And he was just like that's adorable.

1318
01:01:23,199 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: It's just like such a dork. It's almost endearing. Like

1319
01:01:27,679 --> 01:01:31,960
as he was too lads.

1320
01:01:31,679 --> 01:01:34,039
Speaker 3: Too quick with the trigger. I think, actually, yeah, Leon

1321
01:01:34,199 --> 01:01:36,320
is a good comparison because Leon would just be like

1322
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,320
I'm not dealing with you right now, oh my gosh,

1323
01:01:39,119 --> 01:01:41,119
you know, actually so annoying and he's just like whatever,

1324
01:01:41,199 --> 01:01:44,400
like I'm busy, like you make all puns and kicking ass.

1325
01:01:44,519 --> 01:01:47,280
I feel like this guy was her for oh Jesus

1326
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,880
for not for not for you to say like he's

1327
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,559
annoyed by children. Very early, it was very quick for

1328
01:01:53,639 --> 01:01:56,320
him to be like, I love you, little girl. And

1329
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:00,199
it's just like I would have thought that at first

1330
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,760
when he got her I don't know a some war's

1331
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,599
kit and she was like you hate this. He'd be like, yeah,

1332
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,679
it's not that incredible. But everything that he does for

1333
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:15,119
her I enjoyed, even like take him out of it

1334
01:02:15,159 --> 01:02:19,199
for a second. I enjoyed bringing home the balloons and

1335
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,559
watching her be so excited about a balloon. And maybe

1336
01:02:23,079 --> 01:02:24,599
I don't have kids that I like to.

1337
01:02:24,559 --> 01:02:26,639
Speaker 1: Give balloons to, but she was like goblin.

1338
01:02:26,719 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 7: She's like, oh my gosh, I bet I better not

1339
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:30,920
get away.

1340
01:02:31,079 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 3: And it's just like that's right, like you better better

1341
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,599
watch it. Like I found myself placating to her too,

1342
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,760
but in my own way, not like Hugh's way, but

1343
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,440
in my own way. When she would just be like,

1344
01:02:41,639 --> 01:02:43,599
don't forget, I have overcharged, and I'd be like, you're

1345
01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:47,639
so right, little girl, let's go. Like I liked her

1346
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,239
little quips. I thought she was I thought she was adorable.

1347
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:54,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say we complain all the time when

1348
01:02:54,599 --> 01:02:56,920
alloy is talking to herself too much in solving puzzles,

1349
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,519
when a treas is saying like, oh, I wonder what

1350
01:02:59,559 --> 01:03:03,119
that plan forms for? Capcom actually figured out how to

1351
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,400
use companion dialogue as helpful, like she'll say, like jump

1352
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,840
you when because then meanwhile.

1353
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,519
Speaker 2: There's a crusher or whatever they're called to slam the

1354
01:03:10,519 --> 01:03:15,800
floor and there's no like a.

1355
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 3: Language, So I assume he would say you like we

1356
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:21,760
all do.

1357
01:03:22,239 --> 01:03:24,119
Speaker 4: We are dumb ship sometimes.

1358
01:03:23,639 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 3: Diana, Yeah, sometimes even adults do the squares huck, I

1359
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:29,880
did not see that crusher about to hit the floor

1360
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:30,239
behind me.

1361
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 2: She actually is helped.

1362
01:03:31,519 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 3: She she is helpful.

1363
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 2: Not that hard to do this.

1364
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: It is hard to do. I think it is hard

1365
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,320
to nail. Don't be annoying. Do help me. Don't help

1366
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,599
me too much, but do help me. Be funny, but

1367
01:03:45,639 --> 01:03:48,719
don't be fucking annoying. I think it's very difficult to nail.

1368
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,239
And I I could not have imagined that a little

1369
01:03:52,239 --> 01:03:56,480
girl would be the answer to this. This should have

1370
01:03:56,519 --> 01:04:00,920
pissed me off, but she was delicate and and she

1371
01:04:01,079 --> 01:04:04,039
was funny enough where I was like, I actually am

1372
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:06,280
totally fine with you. Hugh did get on my nerves

1373
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,079
a couple of times, but I was I was one

1374
01:04:08,159 --> 01:04:10,400
hundred percent. I was like, she's fine, she's she's not

1375
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,159
a big deal. She's very helpful, so like I will

1376
01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:13,599
allow us.

1377
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 4: And it's hard to keep track of what's happening in

1378
01:04:15,519 --> 01:04:17,679
the game because so much stuff is popping off, So

1379
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,800
you know, your kind of situational awareness is such that

1380
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,239
you kind of do need her to be like dodge

1381
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,960
jump and I'm like, oh shit, okay. There were parts

1382
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,840
with her performance and I think she isn't dearing in

1383
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,239
some spots. In some spots, I just can see the

1384
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,559
voice actress, you know, the thirty twenty something year old,

1385
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:39,119
you know, voice actress just doing the lines in there

1386
01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:41,599
and being like, this balloon's so cute, and be like,

1387
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:44,199
oh my gosh, you justnd like an adult doing a kid.

1388
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,679
Speaker 3: She's smoking a cigarette in between tens.

1389
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:49,719
Speaker 1: Then like cute, but it's huge.

1390
01:04:49,719 --> 01:04:51,719
Speaker 4: It's always Hugh and I'd be like, right, you bring

1391
01:04:51,719 --> 01:04:53,599
the balloon back, and she'd be like, oh.

1392
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,199
Speaker 1: My gosh, look at it. I'm gonna go catch it.

1393
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Hugh, the balloon got away, right, and

1394
01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:59,880
it'd be like, that's so cute. Then you would be like,

1395
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:06,599
sometimes things get away from us, Diana. Sometimes the thing

1396
01:05:06,679 --> 01:05:10,239
you love so much just leaves. Like when I was adopted.

1397
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 3: He's just always shoving it in there.

1398
01:05:14,159 --> 01:05:17,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just like always he's always got to remind her,

1399
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,800
like and it's like one of the things that I

1400
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,800
feel like as a parent, you drop your kid off

1401
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,719
with like an uncle or like a family, and they're like,

1402
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:25,599
the kid comes back in the car and be like

1403
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,000
uncle Hugh said, we have to let go of things

1404
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:28,320
we love.

1405
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: Like, what the fuck were you telling my y?

1406
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 3: Just let her play with dice? There's no reason for

1407
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:35,320
all of them, ye.

1408
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 4: Adopted, We all feel bad for you, Okay, we all

1409
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,159
feel bad. Your family was lovely. They're actually lovely people.

1410
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 3: They're okay and everything, yeah not everything needs to be existential.

1411
01:05:46,199 --> 01:05:51,639
And I think he's like beach yes, dude. Visually though,

1412
01:05:51,719 --> 01:05:54,920
can we not talk about how stunning that scene was

1413
01:05:55,039 --> 01:05:59,599
and to see the dome of it's good. Loved it,

1414
01:05:59,679 --> 01:06:03,159
like the visual of that space, the tech. I don't

1415
01:06:03,199 --> 01:06:05,639
know how it goes into it, but they you know,

1416
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,920
when they were like designing it, the director was like,

1417
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,639
I want you to be able to see where the

1418
01:06:09,719 --> 01:06:13,920
dome hits the edge of the ocean. It shouldn't look

1419
01:06:14,039 --> 01:06:17,159
like an ocean. It should look like a ship that

1420
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:22,239
is manufacturing an ocean. And they nailed that aesthetic so well.

1421
01:06:22,639 --> 01:06:25,280
I really really enjoyed that scene aesthetically.

1422
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,199
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the game's are a looker all around.

1423
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:28,639
Speaker 1: Oh.

1424
01:06:28,719 --> 01:06:29,519
Speaker 4: I like the designs.

1425
01:06:29,559 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fucking boss fights, some of those are so

1426
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,280
creative and like cool. Like also like when the uh

1427
01:06:35,519 --> 01:06:37,679
those ones that at first are really scary it's chasing

1428
01:06:37,719 --> 01:06:39,480
you in the Times Square are the ones with the

1429
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,440
giant like they just look like dolls they have the

1430
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:42,320
face shields.

1431
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:42,679
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1432
01:06:42,719 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 3: I don't like the babies.

1433
01:06:44,039 --> 01:06:46,199
Speaker 1: Yeahabies, they're a nice twist too. I was like, oh,

1434
01:06:46,199 --> 01:06:50,239
I should save my shotgun shells for when their face

1435
01:06:50,239 --> 01:06:51,920
shield comes up, because you could take all four out

1436
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:52,800
with a well placed shot.

1437
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 3: Oh nice.

1438
01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: And then I love how Diana can be a defensive

1439
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,679
Like if you get stunned by UH or the one

1440
01:07:01,679 --> 01:07:03,800
of those bots grabs you, she could do that reaction

1441
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,039
thing if you do it quickly enough.

1442
01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, same with a sandworm that like sucks. Yeah, out

1443
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,199
of the sand. That scared me. That's when it was

1444
01:07:12,239 --> 01:07:13,880
a little dead space, so it's like, yeah, I was like,

1445
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,519
I can't can't touch the sands, you know, because it's

1446
01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:19,639
kind of fucking eat me. I think it wasn't scary.

1447
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,840
I also loved the tone of this game, which is

1448
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,639
like I wasn't often scared, but it had some creepy

1449
01:07:26,199 --> 01:07:29,480
scary elements to it, but largely unlike a dead Space,

1450
01:07:29,519 --> 01:07:32,480
which was constantly giving me anxiety for how scary it

1451
01:07:32,599 --> 01:07:35,400
was going to be, I walked into this game like

1452
01:07:35,519 --> 01:07:38,159
with no anxiety. I was like, me and my kid

1453
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,960
got this, Like we can do this together. It's gonna

1454
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,280
be fine. I didn't have that fear like I have

1455
01:07:44,639 --> 01:07:49,559
in capcong scary games, but I do. I did feel

1456
01:07:49,719 --> 01:07:51,360
the rush of like.

1457
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,239
Speaker 4: Well it's tense, right, Yeah, it's tense. And when you

1458
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,280
when you die and you come back and Diana' is like,

1459
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:01,400
oh boy, Hugh, that baby phase thing really fucked you up.

1460
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,920
Next time, just shoot it when it's got the fucking

1461
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,559
big red spot on its face, you idiot. And he

1462
01:08:07,679 --> 01:08:10,480
was like, yeah, yeah, you're right. We all have red

1463
01:08:10,519 --> 01:08:11,760
spots inside or sold there.

1464
01:08:12,599 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 3: I'm adopted.

1465
01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 4: My weak point was being adopted.

1466
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 3: My achilles heel if you will, Diana was being adopted.

1467
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,039
Speaker 1: They were great people and I'm just an orphan.

1468
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's a balloon.

1469
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,119
Speaker 4: My family was great. Everyone should love somebody.

1470
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:40,119
Speaker 3: They floated away. They floated away, Diana. Yeah's like, go

1471
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:41,680
to your therapy.

1472
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: No, no, no, fucking three d p an ai therapist,

1473
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,039
were fucking what it's it.

1474
01:08:49,039 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 4: Called Luna lunar, Luna filament.

1475
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,079
Speaker 1: Lunaf fucking make a Luna filament therapist and talk to it.

1476
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,520
Speaker 4: And then then Cabins just in the room being like,

1477
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,279
I don't know what to do. I just plays a thing.

1478
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:11,520
Speaker 8: It a moment, just uh you all right, games, I'm

1479
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:12,840
forced to do this. Q.

1480
01:09:13,079 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 3: If you can overcome your generational trauma, you'll never discover

1481
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:35,159
what it means to truly sacrifice. I know that trauma,

1482
01:09:37,079 --> 01:09:47,840
trauma from it takes two gosh, boy, it's just this

1483
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,479
like obnoxious little addition. But because it's not a huge

1484
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,439
part of the game, I can also accept annoying machine.

1485
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 4: I love cabin. Cabin's great cabin.

1486
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,279
Speaker 3: I can't believe it's.

1487
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,079
Speaker 2: So good the cabins you're finding.

1488
01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:08,600
Speaker 4: Hello, yeah, right right, I do think okay, So my

1489
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,920
my nitpicks with the game mechanically are that they do

1490
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,560
a great job. Capcom has been doing this very well

1491
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,439
for a while now, probably since the R two remake

1492
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,800
has been some of the best. But they track all

1493
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,600
the collectibles right, But they don't do a great job

1494
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,079
with the figurines, the minifigs to be like how many

1495
01:10:27,079 --> 01:10:29,640
do I have in each level? Left? And the other

1496
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,840
thing they don't track well are the I figure what

1497
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,920
they're called. But like the data cubes that you used

1498
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,600
to upgrade Diana's hacking power.

1499
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, those yellow little boxes you find little secret spots.

1500
01:10:39,119 --> 01:10:41,399
Speaker 1: It doesn't tell you on the tram fast tracked.

1501
01:10:42,119 --> 01:10:44,079
Speaker 4: No, No, those are not tracked, or at least I

1502
01:10:44,079 --> 01:10:45,720
don't remember seeing them. But they you know, they do

1503
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,399
tell you how many cases are left, or chests are left,

1504
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:52,840
and some a lot of the other upgrades. But there

1505
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,600
is some stuff that I so I did do one

1506
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,920
hundred percent of each each level, I did some of

1507
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,600
the post game stuff. I played the heck out of

1508
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,800
the game. I really really enjoyed it.

1509
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 3: It sounds like you did.

1510
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: It's great, I did.

1511
01:11:03,039 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 4: I think it's well.

1512
01:11:08,039 --> 01:11:11,239
Speaker 1: I guess we can talk about mixtape I'm sure Dan

1513
01:11:11,279 --> 01:11:13,039
will have a lot of thoughts the next episode that.

1514
01:11:13,119 --> 01:11:15,279
Speaker 3: He's going to be upset. We talked about it without him.

1515
01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:19,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get your elevator thoughts on it.

1516
01:11:20,279 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 2: What What do you think of mixtape? How's it going?

1517
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think similarly, it's getting getting a

1518
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,960
lot of praise online. I was hearing a lot about it.

1519
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,279
I didn't get any spoilers, but I generally was hearing

1520
01:11:31,319 --> 01:11:33,560
like everyone being like, you got to check out this mixtape,

1521
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,720
and I was like, Okay, I'll check out this mixtape.

1522
01:11:36,079 --> 01:11:42,279
Mixtape is a teenage angsty game, similar to I would

1523
01:11:42,319 --> 01:11:45,119
say I haven't felt this emotionally connected to characters since

1524
01:11:45,239 --> 01:11:47,319
Night in the Woods. I think it really does nail

1525
01:11:48,079 --> 01:11:54,520
the crisis that teens go through of overbearing parents, of

1526
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,640
what am I doing with my life? Of I think

1527
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:02,479
I'm wasting away, but I'm also afraid of the future

1528
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,079
because I just want to party and do drugs and

1529
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:12,319
that's my safe space. It really does nail that vibe.

1530
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:19,560
It is completely connected to the hip for music, and

1531
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,279
it is named mixtape intentionally. I don't know if a

1532
01:12:22,319 --> 01:12:27,439
lot of people know this, but the developers intentionally did

1533
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:31,560
not allow this game to have substituted music to stream

1534
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,680
it with. You cannot stream this game and swap out

1535
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,039
all these amazing tracks. And the devs said very clearly,

1536
01:12:39,159 --> 01:12:42,399
we had a vision for this game, and it's important

1537
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,920
that you listen to the songs that we chose for

1538
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,239
these scenes. And so there's no swapsies. There's no generic

1539
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,079
crappy music like you can get and life is strange too.

1540
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:55,680
And this is a dangerous and brilliant move by these

1541
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,800
devs because they said it's intentional. We want you to

1542
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,119
listen to this very specific song. You can't change it out,

1543
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:06,359
and it's it is thematically relevant to what these kids

1544
01:13:06,359 --> 01:13:09,199
are going through. And they are right. This game should

1545
01:13:09,279 --> 01:13:10,439
not have had swappable music.

1546
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 4: You should go to jail for mix.

1547
01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 3: You go to jail, directly to jail, no trial.

1548
01:13:15,279 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, you go to YouTube jail you are unfortunately yeah, sorry.

1549
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 3: But it's worth it. It's worth it. And this is the

1550
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,640
type of game. This is how I'll preface it with,

1551
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,439
which is like I do like this game is a

1552
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:27,800
four hour experience.

1553
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 4: Ish really really.

1554
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: Okay short, it's a long mixtape.

1555
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:37,039
Speaker 3: It's a long mixtape. Please, if you're gonna play this

1556
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,760
don't play it on your Steam deck while you're like

1557
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:46,279
had a bar, which is what I like to do.

1558
01:13:45,359 --> 01:13:47,560
Do as I say, don't do as I do. I

1559
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,840
actually stopped it because I recognized I was what I

1560
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,319
was doing was wrong. And then what I ended up

1561
01:13:52,359 --> 01:13:53,960
doing was I went home, no.

1562
01:13:54,119 --> 01:13:57,279
Speaker 4: Movie, no no podcast.

1563
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:00,319
Speaker 3: No podcasts. I played it with the volume full up.

1564
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,840
And that is how you This is how you need

1565
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,960
to experience this game, because you are playing a movie

1566
01:14:05,399 --> 01:14:08,960
and the way this game is delivering this experience, it

1567
01:14:09,079 --> 01:14:11,920
kind of reminds me. Yeah, it's I'm trying to think

1568
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:13,680
of like how I would describe it, but it's like

1569
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,079
you'll be in these scenes where you'll be maybe in

1570
01:14:17,079 --> 01:14:20,000
someone's bedroom, you're in all there's three main teens in

1571
01:14:20,039 --> 01:14:22,000
this that are like best friends that are going through

1572
01:14:22,279 --> 01:14:25,880
this is the last day of the summer, this is it.

1573
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,119
One of them's moving, two of them have other things

1574
01:14:28,119 --> 01:14:30,119
going on. They all have personal issues with their family

1575
01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:31,600
and shit that they're figuring out. You're going to be

1576
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,239
in each one of their bedrooms and you're gonna like

1577
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,520
touch their stuff and you're gonna be like, oh, this

1578
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,880
guy has a lava lamp and he has like Uh,

1579
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,720
this girl she has a shell because her her sister

1580
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,319
and her went to the beach when they were younger.

1581
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,399
And this other girl her house, her room is like

1582
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,680
it looks like her mom completely designed it for her.

1583
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,239
And there's none of her in this because her parents

1584
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,479
design this for them. So you're learning about these kids

1585
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,279
through their stuff. You're looking at their stuff, and then

1586
01:14:59,279 --> 01:15:01,319
the game, the actual design of the game of like

1587
01:15:01,319 --> 01:15:04,000
what are you actually doing in it? You'll see an item,

1588
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,399
it will rat it to me. These kids they will

1589
01:15:06,399 --> 01:15:09,640
be like, remember that time when we were in the

1590
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:14,279
woods getting fucking blasted. It warps you to the woods

1591
01:15:14,319 --> 01:15:16,920
and you play out these memories. And then each of

1592
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,479
these games I would consider the mini games. You are

1593
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,039
doing little things like throwing toilet paper over the house

1594
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,960
of someone you don't like, or you are skipping rocks

1595
01:15:29,079 --> 01:15:35,640
on the river, or you're drunk in a VHS or

1596
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,439
like DVD place and you're renting you're trying to rent

1597
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,319
a DVD but you're too drunk and so you're like

1598
01:15:40,359 --> 01:15:42,319
falling all over while you're trying to pick your DVDs.

1599
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:46,640
Small mini games that aren't really important, are not really necessary,

1600
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,479
but it's how the game delivers that immersion that you

1601
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,319
are one of these characters experiencing a valuable memory to

1602
01:15:54,359 --> 01:15:57,399
these children's lives, and over the course of the four

1603
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,199
hours you just kind of play out this experience. They

1604
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:03,000
learned some lessons, they have some growth, and then it's over.

1605
01:16:03,359 --> 01:16:07,840
It's all with a great soundtrack, with a fantastic soundtrack.

1606
01:16:08,039 --> 01:16:10,840
It's very important to clarify it's a fantastic sow. I

1607
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:12,399
will listen to the soundtrack on Spotify.

1608
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: It's nice to clarify it's Yeah. I was gonna say,

1609
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:16,600
it's like, what are there any songs?

1610
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:17,039
Speaker 2: I would know?

1611
01:16:17,359 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: They didn't create the music, did they?

1612
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 4: No?

1613
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 1: No, No, it's all though, Okay, yeah.

1614
01:16:22,399 --> 01:16:24,199
Speaker 3: That's what's so important about it. And I think, again,

1615
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:28,159
this is like extremely intentional where it's like, uh, it's

1616
01:16:28,359 --> 01:16:30,600
spot like iggy pop or something like that. It's like

1617
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,800
a lot of it is from the sixties, seventies, eighties,

1618
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,760
and a couple tracks from the nineties. I would say

1619
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,279
it's mostly seventies eighties is how I would say it.

1620
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,479
I think they did a brilliant job finding some obs Yep,

1621
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,960
they'll find you'll find some obscure tracks. We would be like,

1622
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,239
I don't know that song, but the main character will

1623
01:16:48,279 --> 01:16:51,479
be like, the reason you don't know this song is

1624
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,560
because these people usually write jingles for commercials, but this

1625
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:55,520
was their only hit.

1626
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,119
Speaker 4: But it was really talk about. Like the soundtrack, she'll

1627
01:16:58,119 --> 01:16:58,399
say it.

1628
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 3: She breaks the fourth wall, so she'll kind of look

1629
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:05,479
at you and be likes, cool, this this song, it's

1630
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,319
set to this, this song. I chose it for a reason.

1631
01:17:08,359 --> 01:17:09,680
I chose it for this moment.

1632
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 4: Okay, that's very cool. I didn't realize that.

1633
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so she she kind of it's it's witty.

1634
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,520
It's witty, and you we were just talking about this

1635
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,039
with dad. Stuff where it's like, oh my god, it's

1636
01:17:18,039 --> 01:17:20,920
so obnoxious. It is so obnoxious to pretend to be

1637
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:25,920
a team. It never works. It's always really moon.

1638
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:31,239
Speaker 4: It's like cringey, corny or like like tryhardy. But yeah,

1639
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,479
it's uh, does you think this pulls it off?

1640
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,359
Speaker 3: I think it pulls it off most of the time.

1641
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,840
Okay most of the time. I laughed out loud with

1642
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,479
some of the quips. I remember one of them being like,

1643
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,479
oh god, so hot, Like should I like wear shorts?

1644
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,199
And they're always trying to be metal. That's like one

1645
01:17:48,199 --> 01:17:50,319
of their like annoying little teenager things, which is they're like,

1646
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,359
was it metal enough? And they're just like, our shorts

1647
01:17:52,399 --> 01:17:54,359
metal and one of the kids goes, I don't fucking

1648
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:58,479
know if shorts are metal? What fucking stupid questions? And

1649
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,359
I was like, that's funny, Like they're ribbon on each other.

1650
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,640
They don't they like get annoyed with each other. I

1651
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,359
think I think it is. It is close enough, and

1652
01:18:06,399 --> 01:18:10,560
I did find myself. Of course, there was like cringy

1653
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,920
moments where I was like, oh my god, like there

1654
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,960
they go again. There's twenty eight year old June, you know,

1655
01:18:16,079 --> 01:18:19,239
being a seventeen year old kid. But yeah, for the

1656
01:18:19,239 --> 01:18:21,560
most part, I do think that they give you the

1657
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,039
vibe that these are kids figuring their shit out. And truly,

1658
01:18:25,119 --> 01:18:26,720
the plot of this film is they are trying to

1659
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,399
get absolutely blasted. They are looking for alcohol because they're

1660
01:18:30,399 --> 01:18:32,359
going to a party and it is their last night

1661
01:18:32,399 --> 01:18:35,239
together and they need to get fucked up. And I

1662
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,640
think it works for the tone of everything. There's constantly

1663
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,920
looking in the nooks and crannies of their house, like

1664
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,479
trying to find vodka. It's funny.

1665
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 4: I need to check it out.

1666
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 3: It's four hours, it's four hours. You guys should play it.

1667
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,439
Like I will say this like as my last calling card,

1668
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:57,680
Like mixtape is worth four hours of your time. It

1669
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,960
really is. It's like a really nice of age film,

1670
01:19:01,119 --> 01:19:03,199
but you get to play it. You get to be

1671
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:07,079
these kids and skateboard and dodge the police. Oh it

1672
01:19:07,159 --> 01:19:12,039
also like, uh, it kind of skirts reality a couple times,

1673
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,800
you know, like maybe in their memories they'll be like,

1674
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,760
remember when we like ran from the police, and it's

1675
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,319
like you're on a shopping cart going eighty miles an

1676
01:19:19,319 --> 01:19:23,039
hour down a street. It should you should be dead. Yeah,

1677
01:19:23,279 --> 01:19:25,399
but it's like it's doing it so that you can

1678
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,600
enjoy yourself, you know. And our parents used to say,

1679
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,319
like I used to walk up hill to school both

1680
01:19:30,359 --> 01:19:34,840
ways in this town, it's always downhill because they're always skateboarding,

1681
01:19:35,119 --> 01:19:37,399
and it needs to work in the memory. Yeah, so

1682
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:42,119
good news, guys. The bar is downhill from your house,

1683
01:19:42,199 --> 01:19:45,000
which is downhill from school, which is downhill from the beach.

1684
01:19:45,079 --> 01:19:49,279
Everything's downhill and they're constantly doing kickflips off of cars.

1685
01:19:50,359 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 4: That's awesome. Check it out.

1686
01:19:52,079 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 1: Yeah you should.

1687
01:19:54,039 --> 01:19:58,199
Speaker 3: Yeah. I know that Dan's not gonna like this, and

1688
01:19:58,239 --> 01:20:00,079
I know he's probably gonna say some shit about.

1689
01:20:00,399 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 4: How it like no, no, no, no, no no.

1690
01:20:02,279 --> 01:20:05,399
Speaker 3: I can imagine it in the bit oh yeah, still in.

1691
01:20:05,359 --> 01:20:08,079
Speaker 4: The magical reality what are you doing an alternate reality

1692
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:09,920
zone where Dave probably.

1693
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:11,520
Speaker 3: I can imagine a world in which a lot of

1694
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,159
people are gonna be like, I don't care about teens lives.

1695
01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:16,800
And my my response to that is like, it's four hours,

1696
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:21,159
Like it's a really fun teenage escape and the soundtrack

1697
01:20:21,319 --> 01:20:23,920
is killer, So yeah, give it, give it a shot.

1698
01:20:25,079 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 4: I definitely will.

1699
01:20:26,239 --> 01:20:29,399
Speaker 1: We talked briefly about Sorrows. Last time I had played

1700
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,680
like an hour. I had not played more. But it

1701
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,880
looks like you both played sorrow.

1702
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,359
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, I played Mary. Have you played uh

1703
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,000
Sorrows A bunch of yes.

1704
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,399
Speaker 3: I've played. I wish I could say I've played more.

1705
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,000
I think I've played six or seven hours of it

1706
01:20:44,079 --> 01:20:46,479
so far. I actually been putting way more time into Pragmata,

1707
01:20:47,039 --> 01:20:50,399
just because I really like it. But yeah, I've been

1708
01:20:50,399 --> 01:20:52,880
putting in some time into Sorrows. I've got, you know,

1709
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,520
gotten to the first boss several times now, and of like,

1710
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,039
you know, it's fun. I do appreciate that they've they've

1711
01:20:59,079 --> 01:21:03,279
slowly allowed me to get stronger with death, and yes,

1712
01:21:04,279 --> 01:21:04,960
just say.

1713
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 4: Yes, that is my main that's the main thing that

1714
01:21:08,079 --> 01:21:11,199
I keep coming back to, sorrows and uh the reason

1715
01:21:11,239 --> 01:21:13,800
why I'm I'm still playing it. I'm up to the

1716
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:20,399
third area trying to make my way through there. That's good.

1717
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,319
Speaker 3: Oh, that's good for the third area.

1718
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 4: That's that's adorable.

1719
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: Often, boy, get you want a balloon? Did you use

1720
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:31,319
your balloon?

1721
01:21:33,159 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 3: Did you watch out for the guys with the attacks

1722
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:40,399
in the third area attacks? Yeah, so you really got

1723
01:21:40,399 --> 01:21:41,239
to watch out for those.

1724
01:21:41,319 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, you've got some sick cork team Hugh.

1725
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,079
Speaker 3: He like breaks through a wall and kool aid. Man,

1726
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:58,760
my god, it's pervert.

1727
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:05,600
Speaker 4: Whoa. I do love that you can just kind of

1728
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,680
they have this whole talent tree waiting for you to

1729
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,199
just grind out levels. If you're like this is too

1730
01:22:11,239 --> 01:22:13,600
hard and you're like okay, you can just do the

1731
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,720
same area a thousand times if you want, and basically

1732
01:22:17,359 --> 01:22:20,000
war of attrition your way through a boss and be like, yep,

1733
01:22:20,119 --> 01:22:25,119
I don't dodge ever now because I just because I

1734
01:22:25,119 --> 01:22:27,960
don't have to anymore. So that it's a great. So

1735
01:22:28,199 --> 01:22:31,640
I'm in up to the third area and I went

1736
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:33,720
back and I was like, let me just go farm

1737
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,640
the first area, and it's awesome. You go back to

1738
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:40,720
the first area area, you're way over leveled and you

1739
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,039
can just all the stuff that was such a pan

1740
01:22:43,159 --> 01:22:46,159
the butt in the first area becomes very manageable, but

1741
01:22:46,239 --> 01:22:49,199
you still get a bunch of currency. And then I

1742
01:22:49,239 --> 01:22:52,239
walked out like a run through the first area with

1743
01:22:52,359 --> 01:22:57,680
like three thousand Sorrows bucks and I was like, man,

1744
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:00,720
that's a great run. So I think I'm just going

1745
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,039
to farm for a while. And just they do put

1746
01:23:03,279 --> 01:23:05,840
a kind of a real cap on how far you

1747
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,279
can get down the tech tree gated by the boss

1748
01:23:08,279 --> 01:23:10,079
that you've beat, so it'll say like, hey, you need

1749
01:23:10,119 --> 01:23:12,319
to beat this boss before you really go too far.

1750
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,520
But I do think they are I think much more

1751
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:19,079
than oh gosh, it just left my head. What was

1752
01:23:19,119 --> 01:23:22,319
the last one they put out? Uh, with the Eternal

1753
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,000
this feels like it puts some put some arrows in

1754
01:23:26,039 --> 01:23:29,279
your quiver to fight back. Yeah, maternal, I hit a wall.

1755
01:23:29,359 --> 01:23:31,640
I was like, this is too frustrating. I don't think

1756
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:32,880
I'm gonna make it to the end of this game.

1757
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:34,279
And I made it pretty far, and I was like,

1758
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,039
I was just gonna put this down, and I never

1759
01:23:36,039 --> 01:23:38,279
came back to it. This feels like I can just

1760
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,119
if I spend some time just farming or grinding away,

1761
01:23:41,399 --> 01:23:45,199
it'll be fine. The weapons are fun. The mechanics at

1762
01:23:45,239 --> 01:23:47,760
first were felt very obtuse in Seari, so I was like,

1763
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:49,439
what the hell? Why do you Why are you calling

1764
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,119
all these normal video game things such weird shit like

1765
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,359
why are you calling power command? And why are you

1766
01:23:55,399 --> 01:23:57,000
calling this drive and this?

1767
01:23:57,279 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but rename everything? Why is my health called pan?

1768
01:24:03,359 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 1: Yes? Right? Yeah, stop it?

1769
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 4: Yes, stop it? So you're being too cute, but you

1770
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,520
kind of wrap your head around it by the end,

1771
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,680
and you know, it's very run based, and I think there,

1772
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,600
I don't I also if I had Pragmata on my

1773
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,720
plate as well, it would be like I'm gonna play Pragmata,

1774
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,199
and like we were talking about our project, yeah, it's

1775
01:24:22,199 --> 01:24:24,000
like I spent most of my time playing Pragmata, right,

1776
01:24:24,039 --> 01:24:26,399
And they're like, I think Pragmata is like a very

1777
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,760
digestible game, you know, or you're just like, I know

1778
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,680
what I'm doing. I kind of like the atmosphere in

1779
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:35,000
Here and Sorrows feels like a challenge, right, like okay,

1780
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,399
all right, let me see how long I can last

1781
01:24:37,399 --> 01:24:41,319
in sorrows. I think it's cool. You know, it's very

1782
01:24:41,359 --> 01:24:44,800
space madness. So it's a very different tone. I don't

1783
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,760
know why I'm comparing it to pragmada, but it's not

1784
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:50,119
nothing like the tone of it though, would be pretty

1785
01:24:50,119 --> 01:24:52,119
funny if you got a little space madness, but it's

1786
01:24:52,199 --> 01:24:54,720
very like, uh, you know, Carcosa is the name of

1787
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,279
the world, and it's like the yellow King and then

1788
01:24:57,399 --> 01:25:01,359
the whole thing it really is. Yeah, and like you know,

1789
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:05,000
the eclipse, so let's is going in times of flat

1790
01:25:05,039 --> 01:25:09,000
circle the whole time. It really really is. And you know,

1791
01:25:09,039 --> 01:25:12,880
everybody's getting space madness on this planet and you probably

1792
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,560
have the space madness as well.

1793
01:25:15,039 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: Yes it is.

1794
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 3: It is alluded that you might also get space madness,

1795
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,119
and you'll like listen to these old tapes, which I

1796
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,880
have to say, like I'm not sure if this is

1797
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,119
the way the game is designed or if this is

1798
01:25:29,199 --> 01:25:31,159
just me, but every time I get one of these tapes,

1799
01:25:31,199 --> 01:25:34,560
they're like the blood is on the walls and I

1800
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:36,479
just want to and I'm like, I don't give a

1801
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:40,439
shit about this. You're not actually adding to the story.

1802
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,079
I already know the story, which is this guy's got

1803
01:25:43,119 --> 01:25:48,680
space madness, and so all these tapes don't really provide

1804
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,720
me any lore or context. So I've learned to completely

1805
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,239
ignore them. The only thing I think about when I

1806
01:25:56,359 --> 01:26:01,039
play Sorrows is kill them all and try and level up,

1807
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:03,279
because that's what you need to do in this game.

1808
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:09,920
I am like, dodge, dodge, min max, get the items. Uh,

1809
01:26:10,079 --> 01:26:12,520
that's that's what I give a shit about. And I've

1810
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:17,239
kind of lost all semblance of who am I? Why

1811
01:26:17,279 --> 01:26:20,039
am I here? What does it matter? The story is

1812
01:26:20,079 --> 01:26:22,479
like of no consequence to me. I don't know if

1813
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:23,239
that was their intention.

1814
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 4: The story is hangs out in the background, and I

1815
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,239
feel like Pops its set up for me at interesting

1816
01:26:30,279 --> 01:26:33,119
points and and we'll drop a little like story bomb

1817
01:26:33,199 --> 01:26:35,680
here and there, and I'm like, whoo, okay, okay. But

1818
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,479
then yeah, it's it's a weird. It's a weird divergence

1819
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,600
because you get like this very serious, like we're all

1820
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,439
gonna die here, Yeah, we've all got space madness. This

1821
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,239
fucking needed stabbing his eyes out with a pencil like

1822
01:26:48,319 --> 01:26:50,319
this one just like is eating his own fingers, and

1823
01:26:50,359 --> 01:26:52,680
you're like, I'm gonna go out there and dodge a

1824
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:58,680
thousand blue bullets. These motherfuckers and their blue bullets. Sometimes

1825
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,520
they're red, sometimes they're Now I have to go choose

1826
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,640
between a gun I just got from a drop. It's

1827
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:06,560
a little bit of a disconnect. It's very video gaming

1828
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,319
when you're out there, and it's just like you know,

1829
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:09,159
it feels like.

1830
01:27:09,199 --> 01:27:11,199
Speaker 3: Very bitty game. So you guys got a lot going on.

1831
01:27:11,319 --> 01:27:14,359
But I got to figure out how long my shield

1832
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:20,199
lasts for because it's very important to me. I don't

1833
01:27:20,399 --> 01:27:24,600
have the same mental state as these other characters, and

1834
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,560
so I don't care about them or feel connected to them.

1835
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:29,720
I have my own vision. I'm the only one going

1836
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,119
out there and doing a lot of work, and Jerome

1837
01:27:32,199 --> 01:27:33,600
is out there.

1838
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,239
Speaker 4: There's one other guy out there who's screaming in the

1839
01:27:35,239 --> 01:27:36,119
background a lot.

1840
01:27:36,079 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, he's getting worked one. They're coming out of

1841
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:45,600
the walls.

1842
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,039
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I can't get past the first balls.

1843
01:27:50,319 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: Really hard.

1844
01:27:51,039 --> 01:27:53,079
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I agree, it's fun.

1845
01:27:53,279 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 4: You should have leveled up a little bit before going

1846
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:55,199
that far.

1847
01:27:55,199 --> 01:27:55,560
Speaker 5: I don't know what.

1848
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,039
Speaker 3: You don't have to grind.

1849
01:27:57,319 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 4: Jeremy get out there, and I'm going to stay at

1850
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,720
the base for a bet. You have good luck out there.

1851
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:04,119
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1852
01:28:04,239 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 4: I think it's a cool game. It's very very action y,

1853
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:09,800
and we'll see where the story goes, but it does

1854
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:14,119
feel like it's kind of going through some well worn

1855
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,000
paths here on the space mad in this front, we'll

1856
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,840
see things. It's cool. Look at I love and it moves.

1857
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:21,800
It's well designed.

1858
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,359
Speaker 3: It's well designed. Oh, extraordinary beautiful. I was actually I

1859
01:28:25,359 --> 01:28:28,319
wanted to ask you guys this because this is something

1860
01:28:28,359 --> 01:28:29,800
I was like, is this a me thing or is

1861
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,600
other people experiencing this? The game is unbelievably beautiful and

1862
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,439
they knew this. And there's a shit ton of detail

1863
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:38,600
where there doesn't need to be any right, So like

1864
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,880
if you're you run really fast in this game, very

1865
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:45,800
fast character, and that means is a wide view of

1866
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:49,119
your characters. There's lots of room for balls and you're

1867
01:28:49,279 --> 01:28:53,199
sprinting through this space. Everything has so much detail in

1868
01:28:53,239 --> 01:28:57,359
the plant life and in the stunning architecture and the

1869
01:28:57,399 --> 01:29:02,039
statues that are mostly hands. And I found myself getting

1870
01:29:02,079 --> 01:29:04,920
a headache because I think there's so much to look

1871
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,279
at that's interesting. My mind didn't know where to focus

1872
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,880
and I have to be like very clear, look at

1873
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,239
the character I don't think I'm getting I don't know

1874
01:29:13,239 --> 01:29:18,239
if it's motion sickness. There's so much goddamn detail. I'm

1875
01:29:18,279 --> 01:29:22,439
distracted by the environment when I should be focusing on

1876
01:29:23,159 --> 01:29:26,119
all of these balls that are coming at me every

1877
01:29:26,159 --> 01:29:28,920
minute of the time. It's almost like it sounds crazy,

1878
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,239
but it's almost like I wish they had more depth

1879
01:29:30,279 --> 01:29:33,760
of field so that things were blurrier because I'm looking

1880
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:34,159
at it.

1881
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, especially when you're in the interior environments and

1882
01:29:38,159 --> 01:29:40,079
you don't just have sky above you. Yeah, it's a

1883
01:29:40,199 --> 01:29:44,840
visually it's a visually dense scheme for sure. I didn't

1884
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,800
get any headaches or motion sick but I do find

1885
01:29:48,119 --> 01:29:50,199
I think they do an okay job with the threat

1886
01:29:50,279 --> 01:29:53,359
ring around you when they're like something's coming from your side. Yeah,

1887
01:29:53,359 --> 01:29:56,760
and you are very mobile. But yeah, it is visually

1888
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:01,960
dense for sure. And there's like they use a lot

1889
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,840
of different colors to indicate a lot of different things

1890
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:05,720
at all times.

1891
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:09,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, red red camp. You know you gotta avoid those.

1892
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I read you're dead.

1893
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 3: You read you're dead. As they said, as the guy

1894
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,399
with face madness said to me right before he screamed

1895
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,399
because blood was coming out of his eyes.

1896
01:30:19,039 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 4: That's he likes the paint and blood. The Yeah, I

1897
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:24,840
think it's cool. I did not. I did not get

1898
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,600
a headache or or any of that, but but.

1899
01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:32,039
Speaker 1: I I had. There's some readability issues for sure on

1900
01:30:32,079 --> 01:30:33,960
the screen going on. Yeah, I didn't get a headache,

1901
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,479
but it's like I remember Returnal was definitely like Stark

1902
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:38,399
in comparison.

1903
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,239
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it was like it was muted. And this

1904
01:30:41,319 --> 01:30:45,800
game is like Red Blue Skies. The fauna, the a

1905
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,079
lot of the plant life is like red and it's

1906
01:30:48,119 --> 01:30:50,319
just there's a lot going on. But I I haven't

1907
01:30:50,319 --> 01:30:52,560
heard anyone else say that, so I think sometimes I'll

1908
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,840
just say this after like two hours, I need a break.

1909
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,680
I need a break of Sorrows because it's it's mentally draining,

1910
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:03,159
it's physically draining. My thumbies are sore. I can play

1911
01:31:03,199 --> 01:31:04,680
prag model day baby.

1912
01:31:07,119 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 4: But he doesn't want to. He was like, take a break, Mary, everybody.

1913
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 3: I'm tired. Yeah, they took off break though, dude, No

1914
01:31:20,079 --> 01:31:22,399
from what's he from?

1915
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 4: Okay, Midnight Mass? Okay, the main actor from Uh Sorrows.

1916
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's in. He's in all of those, so Midnight

1917
01:31:30,319 --> 01:31:33,119
Mass is the most recent one. But they did like

1918
01:31:33,119 --> 01:31:35,520
a whole series of those horror movies that come out

1919
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:41,600
every year. Okay, regular, Yeah, he's in all of the

1920
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:42,399
Mike flannagans.

1921
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:44,319
Speaker 1: He was not in Haunting of Hill House. He was

1922
01:31:44,319 --> 01:31:47,520
in Turn the Screw maybe, or the Haunting of Blind Manner,

1923
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:49,319
which is turned the base on Turn Screw. He was

1924
01:31:49,319 --> 01:31:49,600
in that.

1925
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, he was in Blind Manner. And he was

1926
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:53,319
in the newest one that they.

1927
01:31:53,159 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 2: Made to Midnight Children neon thing, whatever it's.

1928
01:31:55,720 --> 01:32:00,279
Speaker 3: Called, don't they just they just added midnight and they

1929
01:32:00,319 --> 01:32:04,560
released it in October. The kids don't have parents, they're

1930
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:05,319
in the corn.

1931
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,640
Speaker 1: And then that Mike Flanagan's, Oh that's compelling. I'm gonna

1932
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:09,399
make a show.

1933
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:12,119
Speaker 3: Here's a vampire in the background.

1934
01:32:12,319 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 2: Story.

1935
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: I'll set it too specific music that you can't stream.

1936
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:20,239
Speaker 3: That's a callback.

1937
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 7: Uh.

1938
01:32:21,079 --> 01:32:26,399
Speaker 3: You know, he's a good actor and this character is

1939
01:32:27,359 --> 01:32:30,840
is intriguing. They're great to look at, they're great to

1940
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:34,960
listen to. I got no problems with the main character.

1941
01:32:36,399 --> 01:32:39,720
It's all good. Maybe, like that's a great choice for

1942
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:43,279
an actor, and I loved that part of it, So yeah,

1943
01:32:43,279 --> 01:32:45,079
I got no qualms with that. I think I think

1944
01:32:45,199 --> 01:32:48,520
maybe I sometimes it feels a little busy, but I

1945
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:51,439
am enjoying it. I'll probably play it this weekend, like

1946
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:53,079
I will probably I will continue to play. So I

1947
01:32:53,119 --> 01:32:55,000
was like, I'm not done with that game, but I

1948
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:56,319
have to like pump myself up for it.

1949
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do too. Yeah, I played someone it this morning.

1950
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:01,279
I was like, I had to get ready. I had to, like,

1951
01:33:01,319 --> 01:33:03,000
you know, do some jumping jacks and stuff.

1952
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 3: I look myself in the eye. I smacked myself around

1953
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:10,119
before the controller when I play.

1954
01:33:11,039 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 4: Okay, here we go doing some runs. Yeah, Mike, are

1955
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:14,600
you gonna play more of it?

1956
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? Definitely.

1957
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 1: I've got Siderarack of Pragmata and then I'm playing some

1958
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:21,199
other stuff for work that has delayed me playing more Sorrows.

1959
01:33:21,239 --> 01:33:22,920
But I still need to go back and play more

1960
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,239
Haities too. There's there's a lot I need to catch

1961
01:33:25,319 --> 01:33:27,920
up on in that space, for sure, But.

1962
01:33:28,119 --> 01:33:30,239
Speaker 4: A lot of games out. There's a lot of games out.

1963
01:33:30,359 --> 01:33:31,800
It's they keep making them.

1964
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,520
Speaker 1: I got playing more Vampire Crawlers as well, but I

1965
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,159
didn't play enough of that to talk about it yet.

1966
01:33:37,119 --> 01:33:39,359
Speaker 3: But yeah, you had one more?

1967
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:41,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, Windrows.

1968
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 4: Wind Rows is that we've been playing that, We've been

1969
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,520
streaming that and then It's one of those few games

1970
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,279
that we we stream. It's a pirate a survival game

1971
01:33:48,359 --> 01:33:51,960
that is PvE with like four other people. And it's

1972
01:33:52,199 --> 01:33:55,680
the thing I like about it is that it's very

1973
01:33:56,159 --> 01:33:58,760
generous to the player for a survival game, like you know,

1974
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:00,560
like for a rock and stick game. It's just like,

1975
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:03,800
you know, you're just gonna go bash a tree and

1976
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:05,760
then make an axe, and it's it's just like doesn't

1977
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,800
punish you. You can make teleportation things that you got

1978
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,600
a big boat pretty quickly. I just I just dig it.

1979
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,359
There's not that much pirate stuff out there that sticks

1980
01:34:14,399 --> 01:34:17,920
with me, and I think pirate stuff is just fun.

1981
01:34:18,199 --> 01:34:22,119
Speaker 3: It's fun probably to see other pirates on another ship

1982
01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:24,119
and do you like attack their ships and stuff like

1983
01:34:24,119 --> 01:34:28,199
were you guys like raiding other people online ships and killing.

1984
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 4: It's it's only like, yeah, this is the thing. I

1985
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:33,880
think they wanted it to be like a big multiplayer thing,

1986
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:37,520
but it's only like four players. So yeah, so I

1987
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:39,439
think this is just like get on do some pirate

1988
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,239
stuff with your friends, and we'll go yeah, and we'll

1989
01:34:42,239 --> 01:34:44,439
go take on like a couple of friends, we'll go

1990
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:45,560
take on the AI.

1991
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 3: And the you're taking on NPCs, but I liked it.

1992
01:34:50,079 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 4: I like to run around for bet and just kind

1993
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:56,039
of grinding away on that pirate life. You know, it's

1994
01:34:56,359 --> 01:34:59,000
gotta go grin, gotta grind that pirate life.

1995
01:34:59,119 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 3: Get that, and that's cool. I'm looking at the videos

1996
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,439
here and it looks like you can plant and garden

1997
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:05,920
in it.

1998
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:07,399
Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting how.

1999
01:35:07,239 --> 01:35:10,720
Speaker 3: Deep this goes. I wouldn't imagine pirates being like, I

2000
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:11,920
gotta plant more carrots.

2001
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 4: Were hungry, right right right? Would you steal? Oh?

2002
01:35:15,159 --> 01:35:20,079
Speaker 5: Good, some broccolini seeds. That's good, that's good.

2003
01:35:21,199 --> 01:35:24,159
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get out our mead fucking.

2004
01:35:24,039 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 1: Cow, my goose, I'm stuffing him full of food sagra.

2005
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good.

2006
01:35:34,119 --> 01:35:36,159
Speaker 3: There's at least one of those pirates in the group.

2007
01:35:36,199 --> 01:35:38,439
That's just like, what's the sauce tonight?

2008
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,159
Speaker 1: Yeah? Have it?

2009
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:48,560
Speaker 3: Like we're all fucking running around killing people and slicing

2010
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,439
their throats. And Mike is like, I found a beaujeet

2011
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:52,039
under here.

2012
01:35:53,760 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 4: This guy's got have coke duster. Whoa guys, whoa whoa

2013
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:02,439
whoa who stop?

2014
01:36:03,239 --> 01:36:03,560
Speaker 1: Uh?

2015
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2016
01:36:04,039 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 3: With all burgundy shoes, pirate burgundy shoes, it's gonna be

2017
01:36:11,039 --> 01:36:13,439
so good. And when you kill someone, you're like, they're

2018
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:17,199
Burgundy shoes because I like Burgundy.

2019
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 2: Wine of sculling corkscrews.

2020
01:36:21,319 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 5: Everybody thinks that all the all the like tail is

2021
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:25,520
that your shoes are red because of blood, the blood

2022
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:28,119
of your enemy is like, no, no, he likes Burgundy.

2023
01:36:28,119 --> 01:36:28,239
Speaker 1: Wo.

2024
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 2: I love Jeffra Schamberts. Go crazy for that ship.

2025
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, shamble, Oh my god, I gotta get Yeah, the.

2026
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 5: Burgundy loafs so much classes wide, what did you just shipping?

2027
01:36:49,039 --> 01:36:50,159
My hands imported the.

2028
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 1: Straight from the bottle. Why don't I just boof this

2029
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:57,720
wine right now?

2030
01:36:59,479 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 3: Pirates?

2031
01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 1: I want to try to. I had to see if

2032
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,840
Thieves period. I know this looks decidedly different, more survival focus,

2033
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:06,479
but I want to try it. I like survival games

2034
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:06,960
and they're done.

2035
01:37:07,159 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the pirate theme that that that brings me in.

2036
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:11,760
And then I played. I don't know if you guys

2037
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:14,760
have seen a game called Replaced, which I'm trying to

2038
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:16,560
make my way through, but I keep getting distracted by

2039
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:18,319
all those other games. It's a it's like a two D,

2040
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:22,199
three D two point five D pixelardy game, very much

2041
01:37:22,239 --> 01:37:27,359
like Old Blackthorn or fade the black or flashback. I

2042
01:37:27,399 --> 01:37:29,680
always forget which one was going first. Anyway, like that,

2043
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:35,279
but modernized and it's cool. It's a cool one.

2044
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 1: I like it, very cool.

2045
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, this looks like a merry game for sure. I

2046
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:46,199
like stuff like this where you're side scrolling, yes, searching

2047
01:37:46,319 --> 01:37:46,840
for stuff?

2048
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:47,279
Speaker 4: Is it?

2049
01:37:48,039 --> 01:37:50,600
Speaker 3: Can you just tld army the plot here?

2050
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:51,159
Speaker 1: What do you?

2051
01:37:51,359 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

2052
01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 4: It's it's it is a little bit of a weird one.

2053
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,880
But it is an alternate history where like a nuke

2054
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:00,359
went off in the in the I don't know if

2055
01:38:00,359 --> 01:38:04,920
it's in the forties or fifties, and to recover this

2056
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:10,359
organization I'll do not too long was made called the

2057
01:38:10,359 --> 01:38:14,000
Phoenix Corp. And they basically harvest organs from healthy people

2058
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:18,239
or not healthy people to save healthy people. You understand

2059
01:38:18,239 --> 01:38:21,880
how that might go wrong at some point, And basically

2060
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:27,720
the very short story is the owner of the corp

2061
01:38:28,079 --> 01:38:31,760
gets his brain that transplanted with the AI that's running it,

2062
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:36,000
and you're actually the AI controlling the body of the owner,

2063
01:38:36,119 --> 01:38:38,359
and the AI is going through the world being like,

2064
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:42,720
pretty fucked up, we really shouldn't harvested all these organs

2065
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:44,960
from these people. And then thrown them into this kind

2066
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:49,640
of horrible nightmare situation wasteland, and so you're trying to

2067
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:50,399
get back.

2068
01:38:52,079 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 3: Out of the nightmare, well.

2069
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 4: Out of the wastelands. And it's cool. It moves pretty

2070
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:00,079
quickly and I actually don't think it's that long on

2071
01:39:00,199 --> 01:39:02,000
a game. I'm just taking my time with it.

2072
01:39:02,279 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 1: Interesting.

2073
01:39:04,279 --> 01:39:06,079
Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, I do have one more I do need

2074
01:39:06,119 --> 01:39:11,279
to say. Okay, have you guys played Forbidden Solitaire? No,

2075
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:15,399
you guys should play Forbidden Solitaire. You guys, you know

2076
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:18,920
how Mary you were like, it's four hours mixtape. Even

2077
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:20,680
if you have mixed feelings about you should just try it.

2078
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:26,239
Forbidden Solitaire is one of those fake os haunted game games.

2079
01:39:27,359 --> 01:39:29,800
I'm sorry you called me out. Yes, it has FMB.

2080
01:39:30,319 --> 01:39:34,760
It is basically this. The setup is you're you're booting

2081
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:36,920
up your computer and you've got a copy of this game,

2082
01:39:37,159 --> 01:39:40,640
Forbidden Solitaire, and like your sister somebody's like, holy shit,

2083
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:43,520
got you have Forbidden Solitaire? I can't even find that

2084
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,680
game anywhere, and you start playing it and your sister's

2085
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:48,720
like messaging you being like I found these like old

2086
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:51,479
news reports about like people digging their eyes out with

2087
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:55,520
spoons from playing Forbidden Solitaire, and there's madness.

2088
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all the madness in these games.

2089
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:02,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really like crazy Forbidden Solitary.

2090
01:40:02,199 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 3: This is great. Yeah, I love I love this vibe.

2091
01:40:07,039 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 1: A sort of.

2092
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Speaker 3: It does have inscription vibes. I do I love an

2093
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:13,239
F MV game. I'm like such a sucker for shit

2094
01:40:13,359 --> 01:40:16,119
like this. And can I just ask you though, like,

2095
01:40:16,239 --> 01:40:19,560
ultimately is the gameplay solitaire?

2096
01:40:20,319 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 4: It's solitaire? Ask it's if you guys ever played like

2097
01:40:24,039 --> 01:40:27,439
Regency Solitaire or any of the other solitaire types. Uh,

2098
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,840
it is solitaire, like what they do some fun twists

2099
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:35,239
on it, so it is. It is. It is not

2100
01:40:35,359 --> 01:40:40,279
a very deep premise for for or gameplay, but it works.

2101
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 3: This is also my chan.

2102
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 2: I want to try this out. This looks red.

2103
01:40:44,399 --> 01:40:47,039
Speaker 4: It's so silly and uh yeah, you guys should.

2104
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 3: Try very cool. Thank you for sharing this one pleasure.

2105
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:51,039
I love this.

2106
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,039
Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about emails?

2107
01:40:53,239 --> 01:40:56,600
Speaker 3: Yes, let's discuss them all right.

2108
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 1: As usual, you can write into Firescape casts at gmail

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01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:01,119
dot com for some question you might want read on

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01:41:01,199 --> 01:41:05,960
the show. We got one today from Morgan from New Orleans. Mary.

2111
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 2: Do you want to read this one?

2112
01:41:07,279 --> 01:41:07,600
Speaker 1: Sure?

2113
01:41:08,279 --> 01:41:12,399
Speaker 3: Greetings arsonists, I was talking to a friend of mine

2114
01:41:12,399 --> 01:41:14,479
the other day and we were talking about how bar

2115
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:17,279
bets party tricks. Oh, we're just talking about bar bets

2116
01:41:17,319 --> 01:41:19,920
and party tricks we used to do to win free drinks.

2117
01:41:20,039 --> 01:41:23,520
Way back when I mentioned how because of my double

2118
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:26,399
jointed shoulder in long tongue, I can lick my own elbow,

2119
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:29,600
even though that's supposed to be impossible, I'd like, I'd

2120
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:32,640
like to buy you a drink, Morgan. So I ask,

2121
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,600
what's your most obscure talent that you like to break

2122
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:37,720
out in front of people? Love hearing your adventures in

2123
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:42,399
New Orleans when you were here, Morgan from New Orleansso.

2124
01:41:41,199 --> 01:41:43,600
Speaker 1: Have a double jointed shoulder and a long tongue, lick

2125
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:45,279
your elbowing?

2126
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:50,520
Speaker 3: He can't do that, but he can he can lick

2127
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:51,159
his own button.

2128
01:41:51,159 --> 01:41:52,079
Speaker 2: I'm not getting it close.

2129
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:55,239
Speaker 1: Actually, he was writing. I was like, that's not that impressive, but.

2130
01:41:56,039 --> 01:41:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's impossible. You can't do it.

2131
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are yours? Do you have one? Do you

2132
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:04,800
have a weird skill that you bust out?

2133
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:05,079
Speaker 1: Mary?

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01:42:06,119 --> 01:42:08,560
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think I I was thinking about this

2135
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:10,079
one earlier. I don't know if I have like a

2136
01:42:10,119 --> 01:42:14,000
super cool skill at the bar I think I'm generally

2137
01:42:14,399 --> 01:42:16,960
entertaining to bring to a bar. I think usually I

2138
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:19,239
think I agree with that. If you were gonna bring

2139
01:42:19,279 --> 01:42:20,840
someone to a bar, I'm a good person.

2140
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 1: I will.

2141
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 3: I will have fun with any person, even if they're

2142
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,199
boring or annoying. I will. I will make it fun.

2143
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:28,960
I have lots of quips and jokes. I will probably

2144
01:42:29,399 --> 01:42:32,399
make people laugh. But do I have like a cool

2145
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:37,359
obscure skill. I don't think so. I probably could do

2146
01:42:37,399 --> 01:42:40,239
a handstand if you you know, if the situation called

2147
01:42:40,239 --> 01:42:42,039
for it. That might impress some people, but I don't

2148
01:42:42,039 --> 01:42:43,279
think you'd write home about it.

2149
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,279
Speaker 1: I I My skill is I can tell a joke.

2150
01:42:46,319 --> 01:42:48,319
I can make up a really funny joke on the

2151
01:42:48,359 --> 01:42:50,159
spot and tell it and make people laugh.

2152
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:51,359
Speaker 4: Tell me a joke.

2153
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 1: Someone asked me to donate to a children's hospital the

2154
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:56,359
other day. I said, where the hell are all these

2155
01:42:56,399 --> 01:43:01,359
kids getting their medical degrees? Oh no, it's not my skill.

2156
01:43:01,399 --> 01:43:07,119
Speaker 3: I'm actually Manny's skill was not laughing Wow, to break.

2157
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:12,359
Speaker 1: You down objectively hilarious jokes. I'm speaking of bar stuff.

2158
01:43:12,359 --> 01:43:14,920
I'm way better at darts than most people expect. Okay,

2159
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,039
I've had a lot of darts growing up with my grandfather.

2160
01:43:17,079 --> 01:43:19,960
He was that's the funniest thing. I don't hustle people.

2161
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,000
Maybe I should, though, maybe I should start hustling a

2162
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:25,279
little shark. Yeah, you're just missing the board and then

2163
01:43:25,279 --> 01:43:26,720
someone's like, oh, you want to put some money out

2164
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:28,239
of the shore, and then it's like fucking b boom

2165
01:43:28,239 --> 01:43:30,680
boo boom boom boom, triple twenty, triple twenty, triple twenty.

2166
01:43:31,199 --> 01:43:33,319
Speaker 4: See that's a fun one. Yeah, Like when when when

2167
01:43:33,319 --> 01:43:35,279
people are playing for fun and you're like this fucking

2168
01:43:35,399 --> 01:43:38,159
this guy over here is like a darts champion. I

2169
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:42,359
wish I had skills, Like that's.

2170
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:43,640
Speaker 3: What's your skill, Vinnie, I don't have.

2171
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 4: I don't really have one. I yeah, I don't really

2172
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:47,840
have one.

2173
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:48,279
Speaker 1: I Uh.

2174
01:43:49,199 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 4: I wish I did like a bar a specific bar

2175
01:43:52,079 --> 01:43:55,119
thing or anything in general. I could do, Like I

2176
01:43:55,159 --> 01:43:57,039
could do a little bit of like close up magic.

2177
01:43:57,279 --> 01:44:01,479
That's always fun. My whole set, just so everybody understands,

2178
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:04,079
and you guys understand, my whole set is is basically

2179
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:06,960
what I can do to entertain a five year old right,

2180
01:44:07,039 --> 01:44:09,720
Like It's like I can juggle for like four seconds.

2181
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:11,239
I could like do a little I could do a

2182
01:44:11,279 --> 01:44:14,159
card two or three card tricks that are like pretty

2183
01:44:14,159 --> 01:44:16,520
good but for a five year old and if you're

2184
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:20,399
like seven or eight, you already know what's going on. Yeah,

2185
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:24,920
that that's basically it for bar stuff. But I wish

2186
01:44:25,119 --> 01:44:27,319
there's stuff I always wanted to and it always felt

2187
01:44:27,319 --> 01:44:30,920
like I'd be forcing it, like little little talents like oh,

2188
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:32,880
like I should I should figure out like a way

2189
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:34,960
to flip a cup or something like that that always

2190
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:36,960
you know, lands or I wish I was like one

2191
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:39,600
of those people who this is a true true thing.

2192
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:41,880
I was like, I wish I should memorize like three

2193
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:43,880
or four Bible quotes. I always want to be one

2194
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:45,760
of those people who could just like pull a fucking Bible.

2195
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 3: People love that at a party.

2196
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:51,520
Speaker 4: I've always so much. I've always thought that Ezekiel seven

2197
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:55,680
twenty seven, maybe the fishes and the birds drink our

2198
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:57,520
feasts of blood tonight.

2199
01:44:57,359 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 1: And below the firmament. No, yea, you don't be even

2200
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,600
cooler if you remember, like you know, like there's the Leviticus.

2201
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:07,159
There's like really up stuff about you remember quotes from

2202
01:45:07,159 --> 01:45:08,199
that that you can bust out.

2203
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:12,520
Speaker 3: And then he drank the blood for those children.

2204
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:14,720
Speaker 2: And his son was dead and it was good.

2205
01:45:16,239 --> 01:45:27,600
Speaker 5: I'd be like, why did you say that?

2206
01:45:23,199 --> 01:45:40,119
Speaker 4: My boy? You can coins here? Huh hello? A couple

2207
01:45:40,119 --> 01:45:40,439
of bucks?

2208
01:45:43,159 --> 01:45:47,319
Speaker 3: Has is his spinning bow tie? When he gets into trouble.

2209
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:52,600
Who then he jumps out a window.

2210
01:45:53,399 --> 01:46:01,399
Speaker 1: As Judis said, that's the guy. Yeah him, that guy.

2211
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:03,279
Fuck that ship.

2212
01:46:03,319 --> 01:46:03,680
Speaker 4: I'm out.

2213
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:06,319
Speaker 3: I wish we did have.

2214
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 1: I wish I've got some cool card magic tricks that

2215
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:11,960
I can do. There's a few.

2216
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 4: Everybody should know. One or two.

2217
01:46:14,159 --> 01:46:15,760
Speaker 3: You should know one card trick.

2218
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,520
Speaker 1: At our Bachelor Bachelorette thing. I think I busted out

2219
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:21,600
the one that I taught everybody that's like, it's math based. Yes,

2220
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:25,359
it's cool. The thirteen, the multiples are thirteen. It's a vinnie.

2221
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:26,920
I feel like you'd get kick out of it. It's

2222
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:29,239
like impossible to suck up once you remember the steps.

2223
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 4: I'm a terrible math person.

2224
01:46:31,119 --> 01:46:33,239
Speaker 2: I'm I'm counting to thirteen.

2225
01:46:33,279 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 1: Basically, Okay, well you lost me.

2226
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:39,720
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to take off his shoes.

2227
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:43,560
Speaker 4: Is this your card?

2228
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:43,760
Speaker 1: Well?

2229
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:44,119
Speaker 4: Fuck you?

2230
01:46:44,159 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 3: Then you're just a bully.

2231
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:51,159
Speaker 4: Is your this is your card?

2232
01:46:51,199 --> 01:46:57,119
Speaker 1: Now? Okay, I'm sorry. Five? What it funny?

2233
01:46:57,279 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 3: Did you think I was funny.

2234
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:00,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, what did you think this was a fucking trick?

2235
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:01,159
This is for real.

2236
01:47:01,239 --> 01:47:02,319
Speaker 1: I got to eat.

2237
01:47:05,079 --> 01:47:07,039
Speaker 3: You're our waiter, so I don't know.

2238
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:12,119
Speaker 1: I gotta get back there before the bindows are gone.

2239
01:47:13,159 --> 01:47:16,600
Speaker 4: Don't break another glass, Carol, there the expensive ones.

2240
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:21,079
Speaker 1: Thomas is away.

2241
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:26,119
Speaker 3: Speaking of breaking glasses, I have spilled my drink while

2242
01:47:26,159 --> 01:47:29,560
I stream so much that I have just started using

2243
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:32,800
a sippy cup when I uh and I stream in

2244
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:37,079
podcast now and it is the safest, most reliable vessel

2245
01:47:37,199 --> 01:47:39,079
for my liquid that I have found.

2246
01:47:39,319 --> 01:47:40,199
Speaker 4: And I.

2247
01:47:43,159 --> 01:47:48,359
Speaker 3: Too they don't give me sustenance. Well, the diapers would

2248
01:47:48,399 --> 01:47:50,439
help me, I guess, but I I find that the

2249
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:52,399
sippy cup they would. I wouldn't have to go to

2250
01:47:52,399 --> 01:47:56,159
the bathroom between the podcasts.

2251
01:47:56,159 --> 01:47:58,520
Speaker 2: Whoop's gotta change my depends be right back.

2252
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,319
Speaker 4: Did you put your did you put your bloody mary

2253
01:48:03,319 --> 01:48:03,640
in there?

2254
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:04,199
Speaker 1: No?

2255
01:48:04,239 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 3: That would I think that'd be hard to clean only

2256
01:48:06,039 --> 01:48:09,600
water and stuff with a straw. I think that that's problematic.

2257
01:48:10,039 --> 01:48:12,279
Speaker 1: Yet's keep that it's also maybe the.

2258
01:48:12,239 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 3: Passage of the alcoholic. Once you start putting liquor in

2259
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:19,560
a sippy cup, you have a fucking problem.

2260
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:22,760
Speaker 2: That's the first step.

2261
01:48:24,199 --> 01:48:27,039
Speaker 4: I think you might be right. When you're doing hard

2262
01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:29,960
drinks through a sippy cup, it's time. Why do you

2263
01:48:30,039 --> 01:48:32,439
do that? Because when I got drunk, I smell that ship.

2264
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:34,560
You know what I'm saying.

2265
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:38,399
Speaker 3: What a way treating expensive wine glasses are?

2266
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Imagine if that guy comes in again

2267
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:44,359
and I bring us, I pour the wine into a

2268
01:48:44,359 --> 01:48:45,079
sippy cup.

2269
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:47,239
Speaker 4: From because you're an idiot.

2270
01:48:47,359 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 1: Because you're an idiot, boy, I don't want to.

2271
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:52,399
Speaker 4: I don't want this to get on your shoes.

2272
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:54,720
Speaker 3: Still up for the burgundy, boy, please?

2273
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:57,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's red, just for you.

2274
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:00,520
Speaker 1: Here's your ninety five room in a little sippy cup,

2275
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:01,800
you little little boy.

2276
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,399
Speaker 4: Little I got it from Area three. I heard it's

2277
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:06,479
very good, and he.

2278
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:08,640
Speaker 1: Said, I'm going to get some burgundy shoes and then

2279
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:13,439
just be an asshole the rest of my life.

2280
01:49:13,199 --> 01:49:18,039
Speaker 4: Mary. That Pikachu behind you is that there all the time?

2281
01:49:18,359 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 1: He's there all the time.

2282
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,039
Speaker 3: Do you move him from occasionally?

2283
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 2: You don't need to move he moves.

2284
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been there for a while. I don't know. Actually,

2285
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:29,840
he should probably go on like a little stool or

2286
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:31,960
a tiny chair for children. I think would be fun.

2287
01:49:32,039 --> 01:49:33,399
But he just sits on the floor.

2288
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:36,119
Speaker 4: I think okay. I think it would be better if

2289
01:49:36,119 --> 01:49:39,039
you turn him so he's facing the corner. It's like

2290
01:49:39,039 --> 01:49:40,439
like just like real, like you.

2291
01:49:40,399 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 3: Want him to look like he's in trouble, like a dunk.

2292
01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:45,079
Speaker 4: I need this.

2293
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:50,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it's like a cat.

2294
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes, yes, yeah, that's the horror movie.

2295
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:56,159
Speaker 1: That's it.

2296
01:49:56,239 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 4: That's it right there.

2297
01:49:57,439 --> 01:49:58,640
Speaker 2: He'll be back around before the end.

2298
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:03,239
Speaker 3: For audio listeners, I have I have Blair witched my

2299
01:50:03,319 --> 01:50:06,359
Pikachu and he's just staring at a wall.

2300
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 4: It's like a three foot Pikachu now staring at the wall, like, yes,

2301
01:50:11,079 --> 01:50:11,479
very good.

2302
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:13,600
Speaker 1: Thanks. Kind of funny that the guy who does that

2303
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:16,039
in the movie, his name is Mike, the one who

2304
01:50:16,079 --> 01:50:16,720
stares at the wall.

2305
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:22,039
Speaker 3: That's like a memory I wouldn't have unless their name

2306
01:50:22,119 --> 01:50:24,399
was Mary. Yeah, I would not want. I don't retain

2307
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:26,920
the names of horror movie victims.

2308
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:28,239
Speaker 1: I do.

2309
01:50:31,359 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 4: I've got them all on a list.

2310
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:38,840
Speaker 3: I'll tell you someone who dies now uh chansawm ask her.

2311
01:50:40,359 --> 01:50:42,560
Speaker 2: Tommy, Alan, Lisa, and Greg.

2312
01:50:43,079 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 4: He got them all.

2313
01:50:44,079 --> 01:50:47,600
Speaker 1: Wait, that's impressive, Sarah, Lisa, Alan, and Greg. Now I

2314
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:48,359
made all those up.

2315
01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, such a good bar skill, even if you're lying

2316
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:55,760
out your ass. I would be like this guy is

2317
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:56,680
a genius.

2318
01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,640
Speaker 1: Mikey Mocky, Timmy, Tommy, Greg say it again. That's all nine.

2319
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 4: I think. I assume that's what you do when you're

2320
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:06,039
working at the wine bar. You're just making ship up

2321
01:51:06,119 --> 01:51:08,720
constantly and being like, Wow, this is a Reesling forty

2322
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two seventy five or whatever, like wow, he really knows

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his ship. Really.

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Speaker 1: I turn around look at the other songs, like, no,

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do you just say sir pentor he too is a

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bit of a cooler vintage.

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Speaker 4: Oh I don't know that. One of sorrows.

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Speaker 1: I get another.

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Speaker 3: Guess I was flirting, just shoving video game names in there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, uh yeah, I I that's maybe that is

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01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:39,600
my talent naming horror movie victims.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:41,039
Speaker 1: I love that.

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01:51:41,359 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 3: That's a good one.

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01:51:43,199 --> 01:51:46,039
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well that's all I got.

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01:51:47,039 --> 01:51:51,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, keeping keeping conversations going, that's good. Yeah, yeah, you

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01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:51,840
did it.

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01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:54,520
Speaker 1: Let me go.

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01:51:55,359 --> 01:51:56,399
Speaker 3: I usually stop posting.

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01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:58,640
Speaker 1: There's a lotus takeover.

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01:52:00,039 --> 01:52:03,039
Speaker 3: A fire Escape march. It's on our socials. You're gonna

2342
01:52:03,079 --> 01:52:05,119
want to check out fire Escape.

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01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:07,399
Speaker 1: So you can go to fire skate cast dot com.

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01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:09,239
That's our site. If you're not a patron and you

2345
01:52:09,279 --> 01:52:11,399
want to be, you can get ad free episodes. You

2346
01:52:11,399 --> 01:52:14,359
can get the video episodes. You can see Vinnie's immaculate

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01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:20,000
background very Oh my gosh, it's so good, Mike. You

2348
01:52:20,159 --> 01:52:23,439
can you can see my all, my my tomes, my

2349
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:25,720
wine books. I'm a very intellectual person.

2350
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:28,520
Speaker 3: I like people to know that just so many wine tombs.

2351
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:31,960
I have like a tortured Pikachu and Vinnie's. Vinnie's background

2352
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:35,079
looks like one of those spot the Difference pictures where

2353
01:52:35,159 --> 01:52:37,039
like you will take two of them and he's just

2354
01:52:37,239 --> 01:52:39,439
turned around one of his pieces of trash and you

2355
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:40,279
have to circle it.

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01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:45,680
Speaker 4: There's three hammers nailed to a wall.

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01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:49,760
Speaker 3: I don't he's doing back there. So smart of you

2358
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:53,560
to make fun of my background to try and confuse

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01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:57,039
our listeners. I'm the one with the weird background on

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01:52:57,119 --> 01:52:57,800
this podcast.

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01:52:58,239 --> 01:53:00,840
Speaker 4: Yours, yours is yours is like a accurate and very

2362
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:04,760
like clean except for this Pikachu that now it's it's

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01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:07,199
very good. Yes, I'm I'm flood the zone.

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01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:10,600
Speaker 3: We don't know what's weird about your background because I

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01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:14,399
cannot differentiate the four hundred pieces of lore that are

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01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:14,840
going on.

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01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you look like you're on your way to being

2368
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:23,920
on Hoarders but you know, finale, the season finale of it.

2369
01:53:24,199 --> 01:53:30,119
Speaker 4: There's like like the hair coming coming out of here,

2370
01:53:30,119 --> 01:53:31,199
you know, you.

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01:53:31,239 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 1: Know, we we don't talk about above an unopened bottle

2372
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:37,000
of Windex on the floor.

2373
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:38,640
Speaker 3: None of your god damn business.

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01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 1: Is that a car battery?

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01:53:40,079 --> 01:53:43,640
Speaker 4: You're right, you know the probably It's like a lot

2376
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:44,760
of stuff happens here.

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01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 1: Okay, sometimes I'm a dad. Okay, we're going on.

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01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 4: I'm a dad.

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01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:51,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, I got spell.

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01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:53,159
Speaker 3: I say it like you would say it.

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01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:56,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, listen, Diana. Sometimes a car battery starts a car,

2382
01:53:57,079 --> 01:54:00,000
and sometimes it starts your next life after your parents

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01:54:00,159 --> 01:54:00,720
have abandoned.

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01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:04,199
Speaker 3: Go play with your balloon, little girl.

2385
01:54:04,159 --> 01:54:05,279
Speaker 4: Go play with your car battery.

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01:54:07,279 --> 01:54:08,680
Speaker 1: I brought you a car battery.

2387
01:54:10,359 --> 01:54:14,680
Speaker 3: And she's like, oh my gosh, you this uh, this

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01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:15,600
could kill someone.

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01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 4: It could. But death is just another part of life, Dad.

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01:54:21,279 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 1: Death is part of death. That's the wrong way to

2391
01:54:24,079 --> 01:54:25,560
look at it. This is not really a beach, but

2392
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:28,720
at the same time it is. Yeah, you gotta firescape

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01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:30,760
cast dot com to become a patron. You can go

2394
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:33,479
to Firescape merch dot com, which is also correct. Do

2395
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:35,279
you want to stock up on those banana hammocks for

2396
01:54:35,319 --> 01:54:37,960
the summer, get some trunks, get some cool merch to

2397
01:54:38,439 --> 01:54:40,279
wrap fire Escape at the beach, at the pool, the

2398
01:54:40,319 --> 01:54:42,920
flip flops where it might be. For in the Southern Hemisphere,

2399
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:45,119
I guess it's winter, but uh, I don't know. You

2400
01:54:45,159 --> 01:54:47,560
can still wear banana hammock out in the snow. Deep

2401
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:50,479
Dish Pussy also will bring you to fire Escape our

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01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:51,560
Patreon page.

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01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 3: I'm not going to explain it to you.

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01:54:53,079 --> 01:54:55,159
Speaker 4: Vinnie, that's okay, that's okay.

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01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:58,279
Speaker 1: All of Mike and Vinnie Save the World is on

2406
01:54:59,199 --> 01:55:03,119
u now for the video patrons. You can also go

2407
01:55:03,319 --> 01:55:05,399
watch Mike and Vine destroy the world at next Lander.

2408
01:55:05,479 --> 01:55:07,920
Vinnie tell people what what kind of what kind of

2409
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:09,640
stuff you got going on a next Lander they should

2410
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:10,840
go check out. Yeah.

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01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 4: If you go to next lander dot com or Patreon

2412
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:16,439
dot com, slash next Lander or cork Taint dot com,

2413
01:55:17,359 --> 01:55:20,039
you can go find all of our stuff. We've got

2414
01:55:20,079 --> 01:55:22,600
a bunch of podcasts about video games, movies. You have

2415
01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:25,079
to watch cast. That's probably my favorite thing. It's very

2416
01:55:25,159 --> 01:55:27,399
fun where we watch movies and we talk about them.

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01:55:27,439 --> 01:55:30,640
We're currently doing documentaries. Just did a big one on

2418
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:35,640
Action Park on Monday. Yeah, class Action Park, so you know,

2419
01:55:36,079 --> 01:55:39,039
all the stuff, same stuff. And as Mike said, Mike

2420
01:55:39,159 --> 01:55:42,079
and Vinnie destroy the world, which we did. We did,

2421
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:44,520
which was the one where I where I beat your

2422
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:47,800
your guys, that was that was on fire Escape. I

2423
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:51,479
was ironically you beat me on my home turf. Yeah,

2424
01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:57,399
and then I beat your I feel like you got

2425
01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:00,520
like this is never happening again, gift.

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01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:03,479
Speaker 1: I took that personally, and then I just fucking annihilated

2427
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:06,560
you with the other No me handily in the first one.

2428
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:08,560
It was a much better army Mary. What do you

2429
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:09,079
have going on?

2430
01:56:10,119 --> 01:56:13,359
Speaker 3: I stream every Monday, usually the games that I talk

2431
01:56:13,399 --> 01:56:15,560
about here. I have been playing a lot of Pragmata

2432
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:17,760
on there, and I think I'm gonna play this new

2433
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:22,399
Solitaire game really that sounds like really fun. So thanks

2434
01:56:22,479 --> 01:56:27,800
for checking me out on on the Twitch and Dog

2435
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:31,000
in a Backpack and my tape adventures are on Instagram.

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01:56:31,079 --> 01:56:37,039
I've been collecting VHS's Vinnie. I watched The Rock on

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01:56:37,239 --> 01:56:38,840
VHS last weekend.

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01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 2: It was great, nice hot tub. It looked like a

2439
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:42,000
very fun in a hot tub.

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01:56:42,079 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like a ninety degree day, so I

2441
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:45,880
watched it while I was in a hot time. Cool

2442
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:46,800
tub I turned it down.

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01:56:47,319 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 1: OK, thank you for thank you for stopping by. Vinnie

2444
01:56:50,279 --> 01:56:53,800
Dan tape at some point he'll probably be on the

2445
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:56,720
next episode. Maybe not, but uh yeah. Go check out

2446
01:56:56,760 --> 01:56:58,119
next Lander if you haven't already.

2447
01:56:58,159 --> 01:56:58,680
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

2448
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:02,439
Speaker 1: They do some awesome stuff. Brad, Alex and Vinnie over there.

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01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:05,560
And we will be back with episode one thirty three

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01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:08,119
in a couple of weeks. Thanks everybody, see ya all right,

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01:57:08,279 --> 01:57:09,520
bye bye

