Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. What
are you thinking? Abraham Jones, I'm Mike Mahardy here as
always your host's episode one thirty two or something like that.
Speaker 2: I'm here with Mary Kesh.
Speaker 3: I think Dan would have liked that, and Big Vinnie.
Speaker 1: Caravella, Big Vidy's in the house way one word, two questions?
Speaker 2: How you doing?
Speaker 4: Uh? What bodies I'm doing? I'm doing great. I realized
when we came in here there we're all doing videos.
So I was like, my place looks too My place
looks too clean. Let me mess it up a little.
Big Vinie's got a rep to keep. Let me mess
it up a little bit in the back here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's nice that you can see the
broom so we know you're hot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks yeah, you know, Big Vidiy's always cleaning house.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Always be sweeping.
Speaker 2: Watch video.
Speaker 1: It looks like Vinnie is broadcasting from like the trailer
next to a construction site that's just got ramp stuff,
and there's union members coming in and out asking for.
Speaker 4: This welcome by.
Speaker 3: Yeah it's the sign.
Speaker 5: Hey, they just put that apple pie over there. The
miss she really wanted you to have this big video.
Speaker 1: Yeah if if you butt in, if there's some paper
in there, yeah, I don't know what that is.
Speaker 4: That's good. That's good. I hope your first podcast is
a masculine buck.
Speaker 1: Come to me on the day of my podcast one episode. Dan, Yeah,
we should say Dan is not here SUPs. Dan has
been taken with a game so much, Oh my god,
just literally has not been available to record because he's
trying one hundred percent. He's just trying to see every
little thing possible. It is mixtape Dan Riker is.
Speaker 4: So that is so Dan, the one that's like the
coming of age with the music and stuff, the.
Speaker 1: Bill dungs Roman with all the music and yeah, Collie
and the teenagers.
Speaker 4: That's so funny.
Speaker 1: He's like, guys, I genuinely we're like, come on and
talk about it.
Speaker 2: That's what the shows. I was like, no, no, no, no, no,
you don't understand.
Speaker 1: Like I like, I'm he locked himself in a room
to see everything he possibly could in this game. I
think he's like he's going to do a pilgrimage, so
where if the developers are based and like desperately beg
for a job because he's like, I need to be
so sweet creation of this kind of Yeah. Yeah, so
now so many things like click into place. He called
me and he was like, how many tissue boxes? Is
it normal for somebody to go through at night?
Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, first of all, I thought
it was something else.
Speaker 1: Now it makes the way he talks about that game,
I think he might need the tissues for more things than.
Speaker 4: He a little upset. Yeah, yeah he was.
Speaker 1: He's like, it's all just mangled down there. I love
this game so much.
Speaker 4: Well then I don't know what the ice cream was for.
And really then I'm just all confused. I'm so glad
he's enjoying a game, finally, a game that brings him
such as emotional joy as Breadth of the Wild made
him cry.
Speaker 1: It's like the Yeah, it's he somehow is like an
adult now, Like I'm talking to him, he knows, yeah,
he knows how to like cook, he knows how to
do laundry.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, the game.
Speaker 1: I think, like the game was the thing that triggered
his emotional intelligence. Yeah, you know, let's hope it stays
up there. Who knows, he'll be back next episode. I
honestly don't. He might still be playing mixtape. But but Vinnie,
it's been a while. I think you, I don't know,
a few a year or so since you were last.
Speaker 4: Since fire Escape.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you've been on Firescape a lot this year,
but that's true.
Speaker 4: Sure folks might not know. We've been war hammering it
in the background here fire Escape regular Big Vinnie Caravella.
I'm doing I'm doing well. You know, it's been a
was a kind of packed April for video games, so
kind of chewing through a bunch of stuff in the background,
been playing all the late April releases, and then I
feel like it kind of everybody was like, when's Grand
Theft Auto coming out? We can't release a game in
twenty twenty six. We gotta get out of the way.
So I'm very curious to see what happens in the
back half of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think they've been clear with the date,
haven't they. It's like a it's a Thanksgiving treat yeh, November.
Speaker 4: But I think didn't they move it right? So, like,
weren't they? It wasn't everybody like, great, you're coming out
twenty twenty five. This is awesome, Well we'll all push
out of the way, and they're like nah, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it shifts everything, right, such a monolith,
such a such a massive game. Everyone's like, let's avoid
that window. Yeah. I do appreciate that they gave us
the heads up because when Silk Song did it, they
were like, hey, by the way, we're coming up next Saturday,
and all the indie games were like, fuck to move everything.
Everybody's pushing papers in the back.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 3: You can't release the same weekend as them, like in
good conscience, like you have to move. And I think
g t A is that, but on a triple A
scale of listen, we're the biggest fish in the pond.
Get out of our way. It's gonna be mid November.
I think it's like mid late November.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that game is despite how that game is,
it is just going to swallow everything. Right, Like even
if that game, even if that game you boot it
up and it's just a poop emoji, right, it's just
gonna sell a billion copies.
Speaker 3: People are gonna love the poop emoji. It's gonna change culture.
Everybody will be wearing the poop emoji. We'll be talking
about the poop emoji. It doesn't You're right, it doesn't
matter what they do I do. But they they always
push themselves and so like, obviously they're gonna they're gonna
make massive changes to the way that you play that game.
Speaker 4: You see that.
Speaker 3: I did see that.
Speaker 4: It is it is like one one is over here.
Speaker 3: So I am dead drunk, Welcome to the party, pal.
I made myself a real nice Uh this is a
bloody Mary, but I made it.
Speaker 1: Like a beer in a beer glass.
Speaker 3: I don't think bloody marry vessels are big enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a pint would not suffice.
Speaker 3: My biggest complaint about a Bloody Mary's.
Speaker 1: They're at.
Speaker 4: I can't get enough of it.
Speaker 1: At the time, I.
Speaker 3: Increased the vessel.
Speaker 1: Have you been anywhere that does like the crazy garnishes
like bacon and like onion rings and ship I was like,
come on, just give me a drink as the garnish
for bloody marries.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, where are they doing that?
Speaker 3: Where are they the dress on Instagram?
Speaker 1: I'm ready, Yeah, it's it's it's a lot.
Speaker 2: I just want the bloody I like.
Speaker 3: I like the accouterment. I think that you can go
too far.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: I like it when they have the cornishans, those like
little pickles, and sometimes they'll do it with like you know,
brind olives or regular olives.
Speaker 4: Sounds like a drink garnish an onion ring that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But I've been to places where it's like a
full sandwich, like they stab like a bacon cheeseburger and
it's in the drink. I mean it's not like literally liquid,
but it is. It is a garnish on the drink.
Speaker 4: That's not a garnish anymore. That's just it's just a
sandwich with a drink.
Speaker 3: No welcome to America of any like, and here our
sandwiches are garnishes. I've also been to a bloody Marry
bar where you make your own bloody Mary, and it's
just like it's everything that you could imagine for a sandwich,
but it's like but you just stab it with a
stick and then put it on top of your drink.
Speaker 4: Next time, I hope the next time when I have
to sign up for healthcare, it's just picked the bloody
Mary and the healthcare just gets tacked onto it. I
just got a there's a yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like
what plan do you want? It doesn't matter. We'll just
well that's lately late late, late stage capitalism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a sure premium goes up super high because
they see the bloody Mary.
Speaker 2: Yeah your post on your Instagram.
Speaker 3: Mike just definitely needs a surgery. And he's like, I
just want to bloody Mary.
Speaker 1: I just want a bloody Mary.
Speaker 3: This sho you're gonna want this, Vinny, how's life been?
Speaker 4: Life is fantastic. I U I just turned twenty seven,
and I hear it, thank you very much. I hear
it as one of the better ones. I'm very happy
about that. So yeah, it's you know, some people get
weird about getting old. I love it. I love getting older.
When I think, Mack, I've said this before, of all
the stuff I had to go through in my twenties,
it's like, man, I'm so glad I'm done with that.
I'm so glad I don't have to make all those
bad decisions. I've embarrassed myself, I've hurt myself, I've hurt
so many people. It's all of the past. Now it's
just pretty and now nobody cares about me. So it's
like it's a great I'm just an old man, and
it's like people just like doing it. He just says
whatever he wants. He doesn't even remember anything anymore, and it's.
Speaker 1: Like this, you say whatever you want, whatever I want.
If you're listening to this episode, there's been like seven
edits already that we just had. He's just blurting out
really offensive shit.
Speaker 3: I like the idea of you just being like a
like a messy grandpa in your basement, just hanging out
in obscurity and enjoying your life.
Speaker 1: We talked about that. We talked Vinnie up often on
the show. I feel like you could, at this point
in your life right now just decide for the rest
of your life to be a real piece of shit,
and we all be like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he earned it, he earned it.
Speaker 4: I've been really thank you. I thank you. I appreciate
what a lot of people don't want. We were talking
before the show is uh and you guys gave me
fair warning that when we start this recording, you're going
to have to not be an asshole. We're talking about
how abrasive and what a dick I am off camera,
and then when we're on camera and the and the hustle. Yeah,
that's right. The hustles, the on camera personality and an
off camera it is just everybody's got skeletons in closet,
we all do.
Speaker 3: I think that's fair. I think I tell you guys
this yet. But I got into another street altercation.
Speaker 1: Since the last episode when you told us about another one?
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, was it the lady who backed up into me.
Speaker 2: Like in a car?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, wait what happened?
Speaker 4: Wait? I didn't hear about the first one.
Speaker 3: I mean, I get it. I'm getting into these chan
and this one, this is the one where like Vinny,
like going off of what you're saying, which is like, hey,
like we all have like different pieces of ourselves. I'm
finding that when I'm in the world, I can get
quickly angered, maybe too fast. And I was having a
bad day.
Speaker 1: What you're doing the Dan thing where you have a
revensy self that everybody already.
Speaker 3: This is extreme growth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, Okay, I had a.
Speaker 3: Bad day at work. I made a decision to go
to a really cute cafe that I like, they put
little bears in the drink, you know, with the mad
Yeah yeah, yeah, sober, sober and sweet, and I was like,
I was like, I have a bad day. I'm going
to get a little coffee with a bear on it
that would make me happy. And so I drink my
my bear coffee and I'm like, oh my god, I
feel so much better. This is so important to take breaks.
I think I said that out loud to myself. So
important to take breaks, and like, no when you're unhappy.
I walk off the sidewalk into the street and a
lady puts her car in reverse, like at the same time,
she must have been pulled over, right, So she puts
her car in reverse and I go, whoa. She goes
in the rear view mirror. I see her face go WHOA,
it's an accident. I walked to the street to cross
the street. She unrolls her window and she goes, really,
she's gonna walk in the street. And I turned around
and I I actually, like think I blacked out because
I was so blown away that she thought it was
my fault that she almost reversed into me. And I said,
I said, really, what She she goes waiting for you walking?
You're you're just gonna walk into the street, And I said,
I'm a pedestrian, bitch, you can't hit me. I just
started yelling. I just started yelling at her like crazy,
and she goes, she goes, oh, so we're just all
walking in the street now, And I said, yeah, we
are just walking in the street now. We're all walking
in the street. We're walking the street. And I said,
you get the fuck out of here, you dry away,
you get hair. I'm screaming at her. Everyone's looking around.
The people drinking their bear coffee are like, yeah, it's
all in front of everyone, and she and she puts
it into drive and she scoots away and I just
start I'm screaming at her as she leaves, and they said,
you stupid bitch. Pedestrians have the right away always. I went,
and then I went back to work.
Speaker 4: Did you did you? And then I ran over somebody.
Speaker 3: Drill I was I was furious. I was so livid.
I got in my car and I went, what happened
to you? Because I didn't I didn't say, so, maybe.
Speaker 1: Maybe you need more breaks, Mary, kind yourself.
Speaker 3: More bear coffees. I I I went from zero to
one hundred in the blink of an eye. And I
think what triggered me was the idea that, in a
public situation, that she thought I made a mistake while
she was driving a vehicle.
Speaker 1: I was you to acknowledge that, like there was a
bit of a miscommunication or something like a little blit.
But it's for her to then just blame you. Uh
that's what street was? It like a like a how
do I say this? Like an urban street with a
so I would say it's a busier streets walk.
Speaker 3: I think she was mad that I didn't just a crosswalk.
I was in Portland. You are allowed to cross the
street anywhere.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of like a look the other
I don't think any place. Actually, I've never heard totally Actually.
Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, it was not a crosswalk. That is that
is that is on her side on my side. Uh,
she was parked on the side of the street. There's
no indication that she's going anywhere. I was behind her
when she chose to go into reverse, if that makes sense,
and like nothing happened. You know what's so crazy about
it is if she would have rolled down her window
and said, oh my god, I'm sorry, I would have
been like me too. Yeah, that was an accident. It
was an honest to god accident. It was the simple.
Speaker 4: Really, really, are we just walking in the store, Nick,
what are we gonna do? Just talk? We're gonna talk
to people.
Speaker 1: You gonna buy your little bear coffee? Just walk?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're making eye contact now, is that what we're doing?
Speaker 1: Are you sure?
Speaker 3: Just switching my brain?
Speaker 2: A bear in your coffee and not?
Speaker 5: Ye?
Speaker 3: I mean caffeine can can do it to you. I
I think like I was already having a bad day.
I think the bear I was like, this is good.
I'm so I literally said out loud, I'm so good
to myself. It's so important to treat yourself when you're
having a bad day. And then and then it really
sent me over the edge.
Speaker 4: I feel like we've all been in that place right
of like, really, somebody else is going to be on
my fucking case. Somebody else is going to be like,
really you exist in this world. Really you're here my
day as well?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I didn't need that.
Speaker 3: And you always hear that saying you don't know what
other people are going through, Like you don't know what
someone else is going through. When she said really she
might have been having a really bad day, Tay, she
probably was. That's probably why she was being such a cunt.
And she was like coming at me because she doesn't
have a lot of agency in her life. But she
doesn't know what I'm going through either. Yeah, and you're
only as crazy as the next person that you run into.
And it just so happens. On that day, I was
a little crazier, I was a little bit more on edge,
and she didn't know that. So yeah, I hope she
learned a valuable lesson.
Speaker 1: She was calling her husband, who was behind you.
Speaker 4: Really, are we not walking? Are we walking in the
street now?
Speaker 3: Exactly what I said to her.
Speaker 2: With his two.
Speaker 4: What do you think she wanted? What do you think?
In her mind? The perfect end of is it like
you being like you coming over and being like, I
am so sorry I walked in the street. I I
was walking and I was thinking about like something else
and not about hurting you, and like you almost hit
me and that would have ruined your day and possibly
I am just so sorry.
Speaker 1: Can I get in?
Speaker 4: Can I get you?
Speaker 3: Almost hit me?
Speaker 1: I'm so.
Speaker 4: And that would have you probably scarred you and like,
I mean to forget what would have happened to me?
You though, that's really traumadous. I'm sorry, here's my number,
here's I want to I think we could be friends.
Speaker 3: You call me when you get home so that I
know you got there.
Speaker 4: And you didn't hit anybody else.
Speaker 2: What happened to me last year. Actually, this reminds me
of a thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I told you. Uh, there's our
favorite pizza place in our neighborhood. It's like six blocks away,
so we walk over there. They don't do delivery, you
gotta go pick it up. And the intersection they're at
is notoriously it's got one of the like you must
stop for pedestrians, but there's no actual stop sign, so
you kind of need to keep your head on a
swivel when you're a pedestrian crossing it because some people
just won't stop.
Speaker 2: So I had my pizza in my hand.
Speaker 1: Amanda was with me and we were walking back, and
was like, all right, I think this woman is stopping.
Speaker 2: So then I cross.
Speaker 1: I starts across the street and she like doesn't stop,
and then she sees me finally and then slams on
the brakes and I was like, she didn't say anything. Also,
I will say it was a nice day, so her
windows were down. I'm not six feet from her, so
she like she looks annoyed that she had to stop.
I was like, no, you can go, like sarcastically, because
I was that's an important distinction.
Speaker 3: Yeah I can go.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no go. So then she of course
got annoyed. She's like, Okay, relax, and then it was like, oh,
you almost just ran into me in a two ton
killing machine and I'm at fault. She's like, what do
you are you really trying to do a thing right now.
I was like no, no, no, no, no, you drive. Go through
the crosswalk. And then I started calling her a Karen,
which really sent her over.
Speaker 4: The So this is you're actually saying these things like
you're not just.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's again she's like in this like Mercedes SUV.
She's not bar for me, Like yeah again, like nice day.
Her windows were all down, so we were it wasn't screaming.
I mean our voices were elevated. But no, no, no, no, no, Karen,
you know what, You just drive. And then at the
next intersection, who the fuck cares that someone's walking through?
Just go? So like I literally on principle, would not
cross the street until she went. So I got like
in my head, I was like, oh, that'll maintain the
upper hand. She finally left and then I was like,
you won, yeah, And then we went home and had
the pizza and it was great Tenth Street pizza, pasta
and pizza.
Speaker 2: It's amazing pizza.
Speaker 4: So so my problem is in my little suburban heaven
here with the kids in school, that stuff kind of
happens and where people like making a left and they're
not looking and we're crossing and there's a lot of
kids walking around, and so I'll usually stop on the
street and just do like a stare down like I'll
just shoot the like look and be like mother and
right and and and just not say anything.
Speaker 2: Well, you carry the AR fifteen everywhere too.
Speaker 6: Everywhere it's like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And so on. Your hip is also pretty intimidating.
Speaker 4: But the problem is like six, it'll happen seven times,
and the eighth time it's somebody I know. So I'll
do the thing. They'll just come around the turn not
looking and be like the fuck are you doing and
then be like, oh, hey.
Speaker 5: Gina, you know, yeah boy, Oh see you next time
with the kids.
Speaker 1: Bye tomorrow.
Speaker 4: I'm so passive aggressive. My kids hate it. My family
hates everything about the way I deal with that kind
of conflict, like when they're when people block the box
in like an intersection and we're walking by it, I'm like,
and then I'll walk a little bit past and I'll
just start yelling, Yeah, you can stop anywhere you want.
Speaker 1: You could just.
Speaker 4: Dad, what are you doing? Be like I'm yelling at
them like they're totally gone. Yeah, that's right, stop anywhere
you want. This is your world. We just live in it.
Speaker 3: Okay, beautiful.
Speaker 4: I am the worst. I'm so terrible. Like my wife
is deals with any confrontation, Like when I'm something happens,
I'm like, I'm so learn right now, I cannot believe
they did not do this thing. You should call them,
you should call And my wife is like, you call them.
I can't. I can't. You know, I can't talk to people.
You talk to them, talk and yeah, so she'll she'll
that's exactly what I I'll be like, oh, hey, hey, Mary,
how's it going. Everything's doing great, everything's doing great. My
wife just wanted to say hi for a second. I'm like,
you need to.
Speaker 1: Tell her you need right now.
Speaker 4: And I'll be like, this happens all the time with
construction work in her house, or I'll be like, oh
my gosh, you guys are doing such a great job.
My wife will be like, oh, here we go. You
know you got we said we wanted this, and we
wanted this, And I'll be like, my wife's name is Jesse. Jesse.
That's a little harsh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And when she turns, when she turns to you,
you're like, get her.
Speaker 5: Get her, and then what we're doing to be like,
how come we didn't how come we didn't.
Speaker 1: Mention this thing?
Speaker 4: And she's like, you were right there. I'd be like,
I'm just like, you guys are doing such great Jessey.
Now that's a little I mean, I guess if you
want to do it the right way.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is that would piss me off
so much to oh my god.
Speaker 4: And she'll just tell people. She'll just be like, he
needs don't worry, he needs everybody to like him.
Speaker 2: You are you're a Taurus.
Speaker 1: You just yeah. I didn't realize that until recently. I
borke the wine bar with a few people who are
really into astrological stuff, and they've been showing me the
ropes of what different signs are known for. Apparently, Taurus
is one of which my wife is as well. There's
the weirdest sentence construction ever.
Speaker 4: I thought the weirdest one was when I thought you
said you borke the wine bar, and I was like,
are not entirely there yet?
Speaker 1: Wait? Are to Tory?
Speaker 4: Are they known for as people pleasers?
Speaker 2: Supposedly?
Speaker 1: Yeah? The only two I know that our people pleasers
that are truses. It checks out, Okay, this is.
Speaker 4: What this is for.
Speaker 3: I would predicted that of all of us, that Mike
would be the one that knows our signs and what
they mean, and I know would be checking out.
Speaker 1: Like absorbing it all against my will. Because there's like
three people at the bar. They talk about a lot.
One of them does like tarot reading. He's awesome, but
like he's very into like energy and stuff like that.
So he knows everybody's signed the bar. He knows I'm
the only virgo at the bar.
Speaker 4: What does that make you? What does a virgo do?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Was he like?
Speaker 1: They enjoy planning stuff.
Speaker 3: That's how I would use it. I would weaponize the
ship out of it. I'd be like, well that makes sense.
Speaker 2: You don't even know. You don't even know, Yeah, you
don't even need to know. The signs. You just need
to like say it.
Speaker 1: So they're like making me feel like I'm conforming to
some boring stereotype.
Speaker 3: Whether or not you realize it, you're a virgo.
Speaker 4: But that's what next time, that's what. If somebody ever
does that's you in the car marror, you'd be like,
you're fucking Leo.
Speaker 1: I don't know what.
Speaker 3: I know it?
Speaker 1: Where are you?
Speaker 3: But wait November and January?
Speaker 1: Watch everybody, this must be in retrograde. Wow.
Speaker 4: Wow too far? Wow too that's too far.
Speaker 3: That's offensive.
Speaker 1: J jj cut that one, Jake one to jet.
Speaker 2: That time stamp. Okay, thirty three minutes.
Speaker 4: Okay, how's the wine bar stuff going?
Speaker 2: It's good.
Speaker 1: I took I told you guys, I took my first
of five tests for my w SET.
Speaker 3: Diploma gratulations even whether or not, like we don't know
the results, but I just want to say congratulations that
you did it and you put yourself out there and
you tried really hard.
Speaker 1: So it's it's uh, this was a ninety minute test
and you don't know how many questions will be on it.
It's all open essay responses. So I was studying the
book a lot of outside materials for like two months
and then got I'm not supposed to talk about the questions,
but I got so I did well. I'm ninety five
percent sure I passed, but weirdly I will not get
the result else until after I sit my second test,
which is going to be in June. And that's the
business of wine, which is this was wine production, so
everything vineyards and the winery, like how stuff basically from
seed to bottle, how it becomes wine.
Speaker 4: All No, wow, this guy's a virgo. Hey can I
ask you a question?
Speaker 1: Mike? Sure, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Vinus labrusca.
Speaker 1: It's a North American vine species that's used for root
grafting after Philoxra fucked up two thirds of the vineyards
in the late nineteenth century. And uh uh Europe.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Well, what are the main shoots grow from?
And when?
Speaker 2: What do the main shoots grow from? What do you mean?
Speaker 4: I don't know. This is the question. The question.
Speaker 1: Question what do the mainshoots of Venis labruska now from?
Speaker 4: Just in general, where are the main shoots grow from?
Speaker 1: And when the graft onto the North American vine species.
Speaker 4: The main shoots on the vine grow in spring from
buds retained from the previous year.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like the buds that are left after what Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Mike, define lignify.
Speaker 1: That's when the green parts of a vine become woody
and rigid after harvest, usually in the fall. Oh hell
yeah yeah, so you in the wine bar? No?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so can you define the wine bar?
Speaker 1: That would be a sick question. That would be in
the test. People are like looking up, looking at each other, like.
Speaker 3: Mike's sitting there.
Speaker 1: I'm the only one who.
Speaker 3: Passed in more ways than one.
Speaker 1: We put it on the test and only one guy
tried to fuck the test.
Speaker 2: It was were you not prepared? I guess they had
sex before they came.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 4: What are the big wine bottles called the again like me.
Speaker 2: It's all Jewish methusel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, that's wild. Are those the test man?
Speaker 1: No, that's more of a that's more of like a thing.
Oh okay, no, but there there is a there's some
people have mnemonic devices to remember, like the ten crews
of Bogeli or the eleven communes in Barolo. But like
there's one. Of course, I'm not gonna repeat it. It's
actually it sticks in people's head because it's sucked up.
But go Google nomonic device remembering bottle sizes, and you'll
you'll see what I'm talking. It has to do with
Michael Jackson's Yeah, methusela jerebo magnum jeroboam. It's like Michael
Jackson blank blank.
Speaker 4: Google doesn't need to know this about me.
Speaker 2: I'm not advocating h.
Speaker 3: On my search history tripping.
Speaker 2: Incognito.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but no, Well, and then I have actually
I'm wearing the shirt. I'm going to Reasling Camp and
the Finger Lakes U in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's so cute. Do you spend the night?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You stay in tepees?
Speaker 3: Really no, I got excited. I was thinking, like, I
love the idea of like genuine camp where you're like,
here's my bunk bed, Yeah, here's the trunk to keep
my stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the most that's probably my favorite like
heavy sub genre of movie is yeah, summer camp movies.
Really really theater camp. Have you guys seen this theater
camp on Hulu? Make it a priority? Really really good
it came out.
Speaker 3: We've talked about that before.
Speaker 1: It's really I.
Speaker 3: Like camp movies too. There's something very uh, there's like
a pure childhood about did you guys both go to
a camp when you were children. I went to gymnastics
camp when I was a kid.
Speaker 4: Like a sleep away camp or a day camp.
Speaker 3: Uh, sleep away you stay there, you stay in a
bunk bed. You were there for two years.
Speaker 1: I didn't as a kid that my parents did not
trust the counselors who were like eighteen year olds.
Speaker 3: Think that's fair, but also it's such a write of passage.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But my friend of my like aunts and uncles
owns a camp up on Lake Skinny Atlas, So we
would have family reunions there and we would all like
have free reign of the camp for a.
Speaker 3: Week, which that sounds like fun.
Speaker 1: I would like I had the infirmary to myself as
my like bunk.
Speaker 4: Whoa, that's a little weird. Yeah that.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I was.
Speaker 2: It was it was I was in the church.
Speaker 4: That's well, yeah, much better camp.
Speaker 1: Yeahmination they want to they require me to repeat that.
Speaker 4: It's not it was Silent Hill camp. I was in
the medical facility for a while.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, but I never went as a like an
actual camper. I want to, So.
Speaker 4: You're going to bring like like some shorts in a
frisbee or something like.
Speaker 1: So it's three days and they got there's twenty four
of us that applied. So there's some So Manyer's there's
some wine writers. There's some wine. Actually, there's some a
couple of wine makers from Oregon and Washington, Mary, who
are growing reasoning there, but they want to come to
the Finger Lakes because that's generally where the best reasoning
has grown in the country.
Speaker 4: Do you know them? Do you know them?
Speaker 1: Mary?
Speaker 4: It's Bill and Linda and I.
Speaker 3: Know like two wineries here. And every time I go,
I take a photo and send it to Mike and go,
I'm out a winery. I think you'd like it here,
and he's always like, that's great, Mary, You're.
Speaker 2: Near some really, really fucking good wineries in.
Speaker 3: That we have stunningly beautiful wineries. But I'm not a
wine person. So when I go, they're always like, what
are you looking for today? And I always go, you know.
Speaker 1: Me, I've never met you before. Man.
Speaker 3: Probably insufferable because I don't know what I want or
like outside of please not too sweet. That's like all
I say usually is like please, I don't want like
a sugar wine, but like other than that, I would
like I would like all of your wines that are
not expensively right.
Speaker 2: That's honestly, that's better than most people. Not most.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say there's you'd be surprised what people say
they like or don't like a like at the wine bar.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of my job to figure out what
the best thing would be.
Speaker 3: What that means, like to decipher when someone goes like, uh,
I just want something that has like an acidity to it,
but I don't want it to have hot a lot
of tannins.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. That sounds good, that's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that I'm making it up. I was trying to
pretend to be sufferable.
Speaker 1: I have to try hard sufferable. Like it's the there's
two people, there's there's like the guy who's and it's
mostly a guy that most of the time who's like
trying to flex their It was like me four years ago,
I would be the person trying to show to somebody
that was and like now I'm like, oh god, is
this what I look seemed like.
Speaker 4: This a lignify that this lignify enough on the.
Speaker 1: Grape yellow you're in.
Speaker 2: I can tell you how to combat that.
Speaker 1: You just got to fold in some mustard planet, it'll
kill all the Nema toades that acts as a bio fume.
Speaker 2: Again, trust me, you'll be fine.
Speaker 4: And then if you started at over one hundred and
twenty degrees somewhere, because.
Speaker 3: Man's Wikipedia page is still open.
Speaker 1: There is anybody else getting per simon? Is that just me?
Speaker 2: I am a supertaster?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: But uh no, so you're having a stroke. One of
the famous.
Speaker 1: Ones, Like one of the infamous things is someone will say,
like I would like a dry wine.
Speaker 2: What dry means is there's no.
Speaker 1: Resipition sweet, right, right, so you know what you're talking
about a lot of people, however, and I get I
get how this is kind of part of like the
it's vernacular. What they mean is they want a wine
that's not fruit forward, like people conflate dry and like
more mineral driven. That's not the same thing. Dry just
means there's not any discernible uh residual sugar.
Speaker 3: But okay, so they're confusing, they're conflating, which is fine
with sugar.
Speaker 1: Right, But that's fine. I'm not blaming them. I'm saying
it's our job to know what they are.
Speaker 3: Actually, Yes, you ever, do you ever say listen here,
you don't even know what you want.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what you are, and I'll go
get you your.
Speaker 3: She loves that. Women and wineries love to be called Karen's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to carry around like a bottle of Josh.
So if that woman ever crosses me again in her
Mercedes and be like, oh, here's your Josh Karen, I
don't even know what that means. Is that even very
very shitty wine wine?
Speaker 3: It's like a yeah, it's like barefoot.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, worse than Barefoot.
Speaker 4: I would say, wow, it's bare shade. I can't believe shade.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've never seen anyone talk about Josh wine before.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I mean I look like hanging out.
Speaker 3: You and I are not in the same circles. We're
not nearly the same bars. I don't I don't know
this stuff. I brought Josh to a party before.
Speaker 7: I've probably embarrassed Josh.
Speaker 4: That's the thing we're not.
Speaker 3: I will not be embarrassed in my basement.
Speaker 1: Is amazing. I don't know. No, No, it's fine. Like again,
if I'm like that's part of being at the wine
bar too. A lot of people will be like, do
you have anything like Joshua was like, okay, I know
what they're talking about.
Speaker 2: I will give something.
Speaker 1: I will bring them something I think has similar qualities
but is better.
Speaker 2: Fine, Like I don't.
Speaker 1: Expect people are like, oh, do you get pissed off?
And people put ice in their wine and I was like, no,
if they like it, go for it. They're the ones
who bought it. I'm not going to tell them what
they're enjoying is not worth enjoying.
Speaker 3: How do you know?
Speaker 2: I think josh is poorly made wine.
Speaker 1: But if people are like, if they're enjoying it, that's
what like the crowd pleaser to party who might to say,
don't bring josh but don't.
Speaker 3: Okay, I won't bring Joshua party, But how do you know?
You know when someone's putting on airs like in your world,
I'm sure there's a lot of people who are like
I specifically said that I wanted this type of wine.
You're like, totally, I hear you, and I know a
lot more about wine than you. So I'm going to
go into the back and get you the right wine.
And you give it to them and then they're like,
this isn't anything what I said, And you're like it is, though,
like what do you do in that situation?
Speaker 1: I honestly don't think you'd recognize me when I'm there
because I am the least confrontational persons. I honestly has
been really humbling because I, yeah, there are every once
in a while there are dicks coming in.
Speaker 2: I should you not.
Speaker 1: This doesn't shock me.
Speaker 3: I am not.
Speaker 1: A wine bar, so like that's the thing. As much
as the more I've got into it, the more I've
met some incredible people. I just went to a Peasant
last night. It's an Italian spot in Nolita, and it
was one of the best dining experiences I've had in
a long time. This head Somier's name is Mike. He's
like one of the most hospitable people, incredibly cool, very
very knowledgeable, but like he knows how to beak to
tables and not be a douche about it. And it
just won like a few awards deservedly. After one night,
I was like, Okay, I totally see it, But like
there is also there are the people in the wine
industry who absolutely live up to the snobbery reputation and
douchey reputation. But the wine bar work at Like we
try first and foremost to make sure there's party vibes.
The wine is kind of just conducive toward that, and
it's not like we are all very knowledgeable about wine.
But we also like if someone comes in and they
find out that I work in video games, I connect
with them more on that and then the what like
some wine geeks will come in and I can geek
out with them. There are many people come in and
want to talk about like Claire Obscure with me, or
talk about Warhammer and like that is like those are
the regulars who come back because they found a different
connection with you outside of wine. And that's the kind
of stuff where it's the dicks who are like they
think they know what they like. And again it's like
our job. It's not our job to tell them they're wrong.
It's our job to figure out what they really do like,
which is definitely a balancing act and it can be
tough sometimes, Like you could be like, Okay, I know
you like that, We've got that, but let me try
this this cool thing that we just got.
Speaker 2: If you don't like it, I'll bring back.
Speaker 1: And I'm what I'm doing is I'm bringing something I
think they actually mean they want, even if they don't think.
And then I'm framing it as like this adventurous, cool
little thing that and then they'll be like, holy shit,
that's amazing, like I was like, So then they leave thinking, oh,
I have this cool new style of wine I didn't
know I liked, when in reality I was like, okay,
I just based on what they were saying, I think
that's what they were trying to get the bottles to.
Speaker 4: Josh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Warhammer, bring up Warring pour the Josh into a
big cup.
Speaker 1: No Ice, no ice, my Josh. Please. I sent Dana
a text last night because my wine director at the
bar just found a just Ford Coppola bottle of wine
on auction with an Apocalypse Now themed label and it
was signed by a Coppola, which these days, I don't
know how much you want that, but I sent it
to Dan the pockey saw the Apocalypse Now, was like,
I think I'm a wine guy now. It was a
magnum I should mention, So I really want to see
this bottle just.
Speaker 3: Because all the things that Dan likes. Yeah, I think
I'd be a sucker for stuff like that. I would
say that generally, when buying wine, I am very influenced
on whether or not there is an animal on the label.
Speaker 1: Here you go, do you avoid those or you like it?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm all in. If it's got a bird on it,
I probably will buy it. If it's got a dog
on it, I'm very interested. Like I love it when
they have like some kind of like bird dog wine situation,
I'm like, what's up with that?
Speaker 4: Good?
Speaker 1: I don't know it right now?
Speaker 3: That's that's so coded, but I don't. I yeah, but
I don't think I'm making the proper decisions. But it's
cool to see your mask as well of being like,
you know, someone's like this isn't anything, but I want
You're like totally, I get it, Like let me go
on the bag.
Speaker 1: I'm the most patient person when I'm there to survive
and then I don't know what it is because I
didn't think I would either have. That was my main
worry when I was like, I I don't know. There
are some Most people I run into in the company
are incredibly gracious guests.
Speaker 2: They're super cool.
Speaker 1: There's always a dick that comes in or there's always
someone who there's the.
Speaker 4: What's the what's the most dickish thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, something.
Speaker 1: This one guy I think still takes the cake for
I've been there a little more than a year, and
I'm only I'm there in my free time purely, so
like again, I'm using some of my free time to
be here, which makes it even more annoying when someone's
a dick. He came in, he was you could I
just could tell he was someone who was going to
be using a corporate card. I don't know how to
explain it. You could just tell. And also the people
he was, Oh, this looks like a work happy hours, like, oh,
we're we're here, We're gonna buy some gonna drop some
money on some great bottle. I was like, all right, cool,
you're in the right place. Like that's not how I
would phrase it when I walk into a wine boy.
Speaker 4: That's what That's what they actually said when they waste lots.
Speaker 3: Of money on wine with you tonight.
Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm gonna here drop some money in
some cool bottles. It's like, all right, my gosh, what
bro Yep. He sits down and uh, he starts asking me.
He knew what he was talking about. In some respects,
He's like, what it was what was the difference. Do
you think this eighty six is cooked? I'm like no,
I was like, no, eighty six, eighty nine on the
left bank of Bordeaux should be fantastic. Still, I'd be
really interested tote the other taste, and then he's like,
all right, let's try it out. And then this whole
other table, these two I don't know, mid twenties women
were there and they literally they're like, can I have
your cheapest bottle of wine? I was like, absolutely, I'll
go grab it, and it was actually, we don't have
any bad bottles.
Speaker 2: It was still a bit one, but it was like.
Speaker 4: It's not yeah, like serving Josh. These people.
Speaker 3: Yellow Josh out there. We don't like your wine, and.
Speaker 1: So and so these I will say, these two women
had gotten into another bottle, and I just having talked
to them, I was prepared at some point to maybe
have to cut them off.
Speaker 2: They were just being like, oh.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, do this douche guy who walks in. Turns
out one of the people he was there with recognized
one of the girls from like college, so they combined tables.
So in my head, I'm like, okay, So those two,
especially one of these girls was definitely getting pretty hammered.
So I was like, Okay, I gotta keep that in mind.
They're combining tables. Okay, so he got this, uh this
Coast Dester nell I don't think that's the it's a
it's it was a really good bottle of Coast Dester
Nollari on this podcast, and so and I remember, uh,
I was trying to if someone gets a nice bottle,
we have nicer glasses we bring out. There's a bit
of like, it's they're just nicer glasses.
Speaker 4: You wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's several the Mark Thomas glasses. They're they're great.
I have them here. I love them, but like they're expensive.
Speaker 3: What's your limit? What kind of bottle do you have
to get to get the nice glass?
Speaker 1: It's we also bring out just for regulars people we
liked them. Someone on the list is spending over like
one hundred and fifty, then we'll bring them out because
because the breakage on those is way more like breaking
those is worth you lose way more. So you want
to make sure the bottle you bring it out like
would make up for it. That's the thinking. So I
was like, okay, well he got this bottle of wine.
Speaker 2: Which was way more expensive than that.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I'm going to bring out the Mark
Thomas is for them, keeping in mind that this girl
who's now at their table is hammered and likely to
break one of these. So I kind of was trying
to and they these two girls already had the They're
not shitty glasses. Our base glasses are still super nice,
but they're like not as expensive.
Speaker 3: They had the base class cool they wanted.
Speaker 2: They combined. So there's five of them.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, cool, I'll go get a I'll
go get four glasses for the bordou. He's like, there's
five of us. Why would you get four glasses? So
I was like, okay, I'll go get them. So and
then like as I heard as he walked away, he's like,
what the fucks? He talked, why why five glasses? So
I was like, okay, so I bring back my glasses.
I bring back all five, and I put them down
and I pour the He tastes the wine, he loves it,
and I pour them all and I walk away, and
fucking ten minutes later, she stands up to go like
like freshen herself in the bathroom, breaks one of the
glasses and I went back and I brought her to
replace that. I brought back one of our bass classes
that not Mark Thomas. And he's like, why does she
get why does she get that glass? I was like, wait,
he can tell Oh they're very very different looking glasses.
A yeah, yeah, yeah, so and like, mind you the
glass I bring over is not shitty. But he's like,
why do why didn't Why did you give her that glass?
I was like, oh, I was just like So here's
where he got pissed off. And I did not mean.
I was like, oh, these ones are just more durable.
He's like, oh, you think she's gonna break another? I
was like all right, man, like I'm just I yes, I.
Speaker 2: Would not like to break more of these.
Speaker 1: And he's like, dude, I just you know how much
money I just dropped in this bottle. I was like, yes,
I know, I know how much the bottle costs. I
got how much was the bottle? Was there like a
couple of hundred It was more than that. It was like, oh, okay,
the two thousand and nine Coast US I think it
was like eight hundred dollars on the list.
Speaker 3: I mean, she could break a couple of glasses, not
to defend his dickhead, but like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you should taking a glass and just throw it
on the floor and be like, yeah, let.
Speaker 3: Me, let me get ahead of it. Yeah, I'm on
step five here.
Speaker 4: I'll just bring a whole new round of glasses. Let's
just throw this ship.
Speaker 1: Anybody else want in lest this guy not sound like
a dick to you yet in the story, I also
overheard him hurt him saying later one of the girls
complimented his shoes, He's wearing these loafers. He's like, oh,
yeah either uh I got the burgundy color because I
fucking love burgundy wine.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my.
Speaker 4: God, this sounds cool.
Speaker 1: He doesn't listen to fire Escape. That'd be funny because
there's absolutely no doubt as to who he.
Speaker 3: It's me, Burgundy shoe guy. I'm passed.
Speaker 1: You come storming in with a bunch of Mark Thomas
glasses whipping them around the bar.
Speaker 4: Next kind, well, what if he's laughing, He's like, oh man,
what an ass. And then somebody's like, you got burgundy shoes,
and'd be like, yeah, but you are the coke duster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a nine coke duster.
Speaker 3: Got your number.
Speaker 1: And it's also a thing where it's like obviously you
vent with the people you work with after the shift
or during so you could point out the people you'll
go out to be like this fucking seat three at
a table eighteen, fucking giant douche and they'll be we'll
look glance at them. Oh yeah, absolutely. So we get
people like that all the time at the bars in Soho,
Like you get some some characters like that, but you
also get amazing people. And I work with unreal people
and they're just like I have. It's been very, very humbling,
like how much fucking work goes into it. Like I
you think you know a decent amount about wine, and
then you're on the spot next to a table who
doesn't necessarily know what they want, and you have like
twenty five hundred bottles in the cellar to like choose from,
and you have to get the exact right one that's
gonna hopefully make their night very memorable.
Speaker 4: It's disappointed when you bring the bottle and not for me.
Speaker 3: What do you do with a bottle that someone says
they don't want? You throw it away?
Speaker 1: If they pay a certain if they're getting an expense no, no, no, no,
we would try to h if if they didn't, if
they sent it back, you would try to sell it
by the glass to people who might appreciate it more.
But if well, not everybody is gonna like the grim right,
everybody can.
Speaker 3: Have a different taste. But if I don't like a
glass of wine, do you guys put it in a jar,
shake it.
Speaker 1: Up when you're tasting the wine. If you committed to
buying a bottle, you're not seeing whether you like it.
You're making sure it's not flawed, like there's no cortain
or it's not like cooked, it's not I n like.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 4: You know, well that the name I have her here
in a while, but go ahead.
Speaker 3: You have my attention.
Speaker 1: Cork tape you missed no, so yeah, it's like it's
a chemical reaction that happens in the cork. It can
house a bacteria called trichlora in us all but they
you would know what if you smell it smells like
wet cardboard?
Speaker 3: Right, Why the bottle is fox like moldy or something?
Speaker 4: Has that ever happened?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it used to have way more.
Speaker 7: It used to be like yeah more often then, Look,
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Speaker 2: We got a mile away. Dude, I'm the cork taint King.
Speaker 4: So ho I have heard that. I've seen that scrawled.
Speaker 6: I've seen that in a bathroom stall, seating that on walls.
Speaker 1: Called the cork ta King. Good cork.
Speaker 4: So happy you're wearing the silver thread vineyard shirt and
not a cork cartained shirt.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: No body winery at reasoning Camp and I got like
paired with them. They're have kind of my go to
if I have any questions.
Speaker 4: Of course, buddy needs a campaign. You should wear cork
tain shirts.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying you should. Yeah, It's funny.
Speaker 1: Cortet is such a like it's we use the term
so often I don't realize how weird it sounds. But
now I'm having that like semestic satiation. It's not the
same thing, but now that I'm saying out loud and
you're reacting. It is a weird phrase.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah right there.
Speaker 3: Name got to make sure that we all were on
the same page.
Speaker 1: We can't take corkage because corkage.
Speaker 4: So I ordered a bottle once and uh I had
to send it back because in a leakage? Is that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I ordered a bottle once and I tried
to boof it and they kicked me out of the
bar for some reason.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, he goes really yeah, really.
Speaker 2: The bar, I'm borking that bottle of shield.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fine, Anyway, I know there's I have the
most respect for people in the service industry.
Speaker 2: It's it's fucking hard.
Speaker 4: But okay, do you if something gets cork tainted, you
drink it in the back? No, this is that bad?
Is it really that gross? No, it's not a bit
of a little bit.
Speaker 1: They're they're like, if you if you get an old
enough bottle, you're accepting that there's a higher generally speaking,
there's a higher risk that something might have happened. There's
a lot of flaws or something called britannamcees that could
be in there. There's something light strike can happen where
it literally cool. It makes the flip fruit taste like
cooked oxidized, but uh light strike smells more like a
dirty drain.
Speaker 2: You would not want to drink it.
Speaker 4: Jesus, what the are you serving over there?
Speaker 1: It's inside each bottle, there's any number.
Speaker 3: What's your problem?
Speaker 4: This one tastes rat It gave.
Speaker 3: You the durable glass because you look like a fucking moron.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I fucking here's the durable glass.
Speaker 4: Nice loafers.
Speaker 1: Shoes.
Speaker 3: I wonder what kind of whiney likes.
Speaker 1: You fucking dwarp.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's uh no that you would.
Speaker 3: I have the most respect for the industry.
Speaker 1: It's not so much. I'll save the next bottle that
I get some some t c A and it you
could swell.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's so greedy with that cork team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll see something for you.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you just you just give me a
speeded up motion? Am I lingering too much on cork tape?
You are doing the bit? I was trying to educate
you rap the other day when someone did something stupid
to you and then they said, are you are you rapping? Okay,
you want to tut videos?
Speaker 4: We're at time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk aboutdeo games.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a drink. This is ridiculous.
Speaker 4: He just left.
Speaker 3: Uh he likes to be the host. But I felt
that it had run its course.
Speaker 4: I agree to you. I agree with you like a
bad wine. And when it had run its course.
Speaker 1: All right, weird the dance not here because he was
the one who is pushing Pragmata really hard early on
and recommending it. Holy fuck, that's my one of my
favorite games.
Speaker 2: I played in years.
Speaker 1: I like Pragmata a lot, so I know the Dead
Space comparisons are Superdad.
Speaker 3: Space is what they're calling it. Isn't that so cute?
Speaker 2: That's nice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was like it somehow didn't register with
me until I got to the Emergency Shelter. They basically
have Resident Evil save room music in the Emergency Shelter,
which I love. Yeah, it's the that like relaxing and
you could. I was like, oh right, it's capcom. Of course,
they're pulling from Resident Evil a lot here too, but
Dead Space just makes more sense because you're in space.
But I love that game. I'm telling Mary and Jake
and Dan in our discords, like that's the this is
the first game I'm actively trying two hundred percent the challenges,
which are amazing. There's like a neon white aspect to those,
like really the perfecting those finding all the collectibles, the
metro adveny, aspects of going back to an area now
that I can clear out those crystals.
Speaker 3: So you can jump higher. Oh, the difficulty rooms are interesting.
Those rooms where it's like, don't go in here, these
are really tough. The red card gate, the red card rooms,
those are funs.
Speaker 1: Like just that hacking mechanic is so novel, And yeah,
like the game does the boss fights. You had so
many interesting like twists on that it's oh, it's unreal.
We talked about it in the last episode. But like
the game is just so well paced. I will say
I do find myself wishing while I like that, there's
a lot of quality of life, like just getting around
the game. The tram system makes it super easy to
know where you're going. I do miss the connective tissue
that dead Space had between the areas. Obviously, once you
unlock the tram or even Hollow Night, once you unlock
the the is it a tram or the bug that
takes you around, Like, yeah, it's a super nice touch.
But like before that, you're getting a better sense of
the overall map because you have to manually travel.
Speaker 2: I kind of actually miss that.
Speaker 1: It's so compartmentalized and segmented the pragmata that I wish
I could see more. Betwe mean, maybe they'll do that.
I hope there's gonna be a sequel. It just feels
like it could be a pretty.
Speaker 3: Sure feels franchise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, game's phenomenal. The combat is incredible, The
world itself is super cool.
Speaker 4: How far are you? Where are you at?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure I'm in the last if you're
looking so the map is like a circle. I'm in
the last node. I just did the Actually, maybe I'm not.
I just did the Did she get hurt? Yes?
Speaker 4: You guys talk about spoilers on the show, or do you?
Speaker 3: We try? We try not to do endgame spoilers, and
if we do, we tell our audience like skip ahead.
I would like to say in this one, broadly, I
don't think it's a crazy spoiler that one of the
characters can get hurt, So fine, these are not story spoilers.
Speaker 1: The emergency shelter, it appears I'm at the peak up
Emergency Shelter level M four. I think I think four
might be the top of maybe there's one past it.
But yeah, I played like eight hours, I'd say, so,
I think I'm toward the end.
Speaker 3: Like my spicy people are saying, it's like twelve hours, ish,
I think? Is what I what I'm gathering. Finny, you've
completed it.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: How many hours did you put into it?
Speaker 1: And what do you know?
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 4: I really liked it? I also did the one hundred
percent completion on everything. Yes, and so the I did
not get the Platinum trophy because there is a thing,
and I don't think this is spoiler ish, but there
is a thing post game where it opens up a
new difficulty that you then have to beat it on
to get the trophy Platinum.
Speaker 3: I was playing on difficulty?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 3: Because is it just lunatic?
Speaker 4: I think they call it is the name of the difficulty.
It's the hardest. It's a harder difficulty, but it's not
a new game. Plus, so you you wind up being
able to bring some stuff in but not all of
your upgraded weapons, and you basically just have to play
the game over on this harder difficulty.
Speaker 3: Oh, I wouldn't enjoy that is much starting over from scratch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you kind of have to start from scratch. I
mean you have some stuff that is a postgame, but
not not like you would in a new game play.
Speaker 1: I will say, because you're the handgun whatever, the grip
gun has infinite AMMO and the hacking, the game feels like,
even if it's very very difficult, you can theoretically beat
every fight if you are like, if you understand the
game well enough, like similar to a Elden Ring or whatever,
you could technically beat Marget at like level ten if
you are good enough. It feels like that hacking kind
of levels things in a way that it's like, Okay,
well I might be able to beat this boss right now,
but instead I'm going to go collect way more shit
and upgrade my health, my dodge, thruster, recharge, et cetera.
So I appreciate that that's kind of a there's like
an accessibility to that, Like resu belfour had the thing
where if you die too many times in a row,
the game won't tell you it's lowering the difficulty, but
it is. It feels like it's like a cool way
of handling difficulty. The hacking can if you get good
at it, you can really just fly through a lot
of difficult fights, even some of the red card gate things.
When I'm in a flow, stay in that game, I
feel like I'm not getting touched. Then of course I
have bad days where I'm like, oh my god, I'm
getting sucked up.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm rushing.
Speaker 1: You have to kind of balance being patient with the
hacking and being aggressive enough when someone is exposed. Yeah,
there's there's one challenge room that took me forever to
figure out. It was the medic when they introduced the medic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the little box that he the other Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you only have the riot gun, the one that
just does the AoE blast, and your grip gun, and
there's five of five shots from the shotgun, and you
have to figure out I don't even necessarily know. I
was like, oh shit, wait, so if I damage anyone,
the medicalill fly over to them. So, okay, I'm gonna shoot.
I'm not even gonna hack this enemy. I'm gonna shoot
them quick with the grip gun that's going to bring
the medic over.
Speaker 2: And then I'm able to ryot to knock all them
out and.
Speaker 1: Then yet and then also I will say, like one
I when I unlock the the critical like when you
go up to them and just press R and he
puts it right up to their end.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, so satisfying.
Speaker 1: And then you fight certain bosses where that's necessary you
need to go up and do that to them, like
the animation.
Speaker 2: They're amazing with those.
Speaker 4: So the the medic one is really interesting. I learned
so much from doing those cabin challenges. Uh and and like, oh,
I guess I didn't know how to play this game
before that, so I like I would do them be
like I just can't. The way I'm playing this game
is not beating this challenge. You must want me to
do it a different way, just like you were saying
when you if you shoot an enemy and the medic
goes over and then you hack the medic, it does
so much damage to the enemy's healing when yeah yeah, yeah,
so if you hack the medic while it's healing, it
does a ton of damage to the enemy that it's
healing and to the medic itself. Yeah. So I there's
a ton of things like that. But there's some late
game weapons that I was just like, you just got
so many weapons that I wasn't using, and then some
of the challenges made you use them, and I was like, damn,
this weapon is so good. I just never used it
and kind of had to learn how to use it
and use it efficiently. There was so much in that
game that felt fresh to me gameplay wise. It's one
of the few games I really enjoyed despite not really
latching onto the story in it as much. I just
have a cold stone heart, so that just makes sense
for me.
Speaker 3: But like the only dad on this podcast, not connecting
to the story is not lost on me.
Speaker 4: I found you, the main character, to be such a
dope that I was just like, You're like the kid
would often be like, you know, like wow, that's so wow.
You have to you can get nourishment from eating. It'd
be like, not just nourishment for your body, nourishment for
your soul, Diana, and she'd be like, you get sole nourishment.
That's right, when people gather around the table to tell
tales of their day. It would nourish your soul. By
the way, don't forget I was adopted.
Speaker 1: Organs like every inconsistency in the very first cut scene,
or like the intro, he's surprised to learn that one
of his crew mates had a kid.
Speaker 3: You got a kid, This guy's got kids. Everybody makes
of this loser.
Speaker 1: What they were just my teammates, they were my best friends.
Speaker 2: But you didn't know.
Speaker 3: You didn't know one of them children.
Speaker 1: We don't.
Speaker 3: It doesn't come off Mike.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about that.
Speaker 6: We're not talking about that. We don't talk home at shop.
I knew exactly what kind of beer and wine he drank. Okay,
he was a giant Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so uh yeah, I found him either,
but like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought the kid was cute and like
the you know, it's like it's like a it's like
a goblin. The kid's like a little goblin, just like
like just running around being like look what I'm doing.
I'm like hacking things. And he was just like that's adorable.
Speaker 1: It's just like such a dork. It's almost endearing. Like
as he was too lads.
Speaker 3: Too quick with the trigger. I think, actually, yeah, Leon
is a good comparison because Leon would just be like
I'm not dealing with you right now, oh my gosh,
you know, actually so annoying and he's just like whatever,
like I'm busy, like you make all puns and kicking ass.
I feel like this guy was her for oh Jesus
for not for not for you to say like he's
annoyed by children. Very early, it was very quick for
him to be like, I love you, little girl. And
it's just like I would have thought that at first
when he got her I don't know a some war's
kit and she was like you hate this. He'd be like, yeah,
it's not that incredible. But everything that he does for
her I enjoyed, even like take him out of it
for a second. I enjoyed bringing home the balloons and
watching her be so excited about a balloon. And maybe
I don't have kids that I like to.
Speaker 1: Give balloons to, but she was like goblin.
Speaker 7: She's like, oh my gosh, I bet I better not
get away.
Speaker 3: And it's just like that's right, like you better better
watch it. Like I found myself placating to her too,
but in my own way, not like Hugh's way, but
in my own way. When she would just be like,
don't forget, I have overcharged, and I'd be like, you're
so right, little girl, let's go. Like I liked her
little quips. I thought she was I thought she was adorable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say we complain all the time when
alloy is talking to herself too much in solving puzzles,
when a treas is saying like, oh, I wonder what
that plan forms for? Capcom actually figured out how to
use companion dialogue as helpful, like she'll say, like jump
you when because then meanwhile.
Speaker 2: There's a crusher or whatever they're called to slam the
floor and there's no like a.
Speaker 3: Language, So I assume he would say you like we
all do.
Speaker 4: We are dumb ship sometimes.
Speaker 3: Diana, Yeah, sometimes even adults do the squares huck, I
did not see that crusher about to hit the floor
behind me.
Speaker 2: She actually is helped.
Speaker 3: She she is helpful.
Speaker 2: Not that hard to do this.
Speaker 3: It is hard to do. I think it is hard
to nail. Don't be annoying. Do help me. Don't help
me too much, but do help me. Be funny, but
don't be fucking annoying. I think it's very difficult to nail.
And I I could not have imagined that a little
girl would be the answer to this. This should have
pissed me off, but she was delicate and and she
was funny enough where I was like, I actually am
totally fine with you. Hugh did get on my nerves
a couple of times, but I was I was one
hundred percent. I was like, she's fine, she's she's not
a big deal. She's very helpful, so like I will
allow us.
Speaker 4: And it's hard to keep track of what's happening in
the game because so much stuff is popping off, So
you know, your kind of situational awareness is such that
you kind of do need her to be like dodge
jump and I'm like, oh shit, okay. There were parts
with her performance and I think she isn't dearing in
some spots. In some spots, I just can see the
voice actress, you know, the thirty twenty something year old,
you know, voice actress just doing the lines in there
and being like, this balloon's so cute, and be like,
oh my gosh, you justnd like an adult doing a kid.
Speaker 3: She's smoking a cigarette in between tens.
Speaker 1: Then like cute, but it's huge.
Speaker 4: It's always Hugh and I'd be like, right, you bring
the balloon back, and she'd be like, oh.
Speaker 1: My gosh, look at it. I'm gonna go catch it.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Hugh, the balloon got away, right, and
it'd be like, that's so cute. Then you would be like,
sometimes things get away from us, Diana. Sometimes the thing
you love so much just leaves. Like when I was adopted.
Speaker 3: He's just always shoving it in there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just like always he's always got to remind her,
like and it's like one of the things that I
feel like as a parent, you drop your kid off
with like an uncle or like a family, and they're like,
the kid comes back in the car and be like
uncle Hugh said, we have to let go of things
we love.
Speaker 1: Like, what the fuck were you telling my y?
Speaker 3: Just let her play with dice? There's no reason for
all of them, ye.
Speaker 4: Adopted, We all feel bad for you, Okay, we all
feel bad. Your family was lovely. They're actually lovely people.
Speaker 3: They're okay and everything, yeah not everything needs to be existential.
And I think he's like beach yes, dude. Visually though,
can we not talk about how stunning that scene was
and to see the dome of it's good. Loved it,
like the visual of that space, the tech. I don't
know how it goes into it, but they you know,
when they were like designing it, the director was like,
I want you to be able to see where the
dome hits the edge of the ocean. It shouldn't look
like an ocean. It should look like a ship that
is manufacturing an ocean. And they nailed that aesthetic so well.
I really really enjoyed that scene aesthetically.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the game's are a looker all around.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 4: I like the designs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fucking boss fights, some of those are so
creative and like cool. Like also like when the uh
those ones that at first are really scary it's chasing
you in the Times Square are the ones with the
giant like they just look like dolls they have the
face shields.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't like the babies.
Speaker 1: Yeahabies, they're a nice twist too. I was like, oh,
I should save my shotgun shells for when their face
shield comes up, because you could take all four out
with a well placed shot.
Speaker 3: Oh nice.
Speaker 1: And then I love how Diana can be a defensive
Like if you get stunned by UH or the one
of those bots grabs you, she could do that reaction
thing if you do it quickly enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, same with a sandworm that like sucks. Yeah, out
of the sand. That scared me. That's when it was
a little dead space, so it's like, yeah, I was like,
I can't can't touch the sands, you know, because it's
kind of fucking eat me. I think it wasn't scary.
I also loved the tone of this game, which is
like I wasn't often scared, but it had some creepy
scary elements to it, but largely unlike a dead Space,
which was constantly giving me anxiety for how scary it
was going to be, I walked into this game like
with no anxiety. I was like, me and my kid
got this, Like we can do this together. It's gonna
be fine. I didn't have that fear like I have
in capcong scary games, but I do. I did feel
the rush of like.
Speaker 4: Well it's tense, right, Yeah, it's tense. And when you
when you die and you come back and Diana' is like,
oh boy, Hugh, that baby phase thing really fucked you up.
Next time, just shoot it when it's got the fucking
big red spot on its face, you idiot. And he
was like, yeah, yeah, you're right. We all have red
spots inside or sold there.
Speaker 3: I'm adopted.
Speaker 4: My weak point was being adopted.
Speaker 3: My achilles heel if you will, Diana was being adopted.
Speaker 1: They were great people and I'm just an orphan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's a balloon.
Speaker 4: My family was great. Everyone should love somebody.
Speaker 3: They floated away. They floated away, Diana. Yeah's like, go
to your therapy.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, fucking three d p an ai therapist,
were fucking what it's it.
Speaker 4: Called Luna lunar, Luna filament.
Speaker 1: Lunaf fucking make a Luna filament therapist and talk to it.
Speaker 4: And then then Cabins just in the room being like,
I don't know what to do. I just plays a thing.
Speaker 8: It a moment, just uh you all right, games, I'm
forced to do this. Q.
Speaker 3: If you can overcome your generational trauma, you'll never discover
what it means to truly sacrifice. I know that trauma,
trauma from it takes two gosh, boy, it's just this
like obnoxious little addition. But because it's not a huge
part of the game, I can also accept annoying machine.
Speaker 4: I love cabin. Cabin's great cabin.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it's.
Speaker 2: So good the cabins you're finding.
Speaker 4: Hello, yeah, right right, I do think okay, So my
my nitpicks with the game mechanically are that they do
a great job. Capcom has been doing this very well
for a while now, probably since the R two remake
has been some of the best. But they track all
the collectibles right, But they don't do a great job
with the figurines, the minifigs to be like how many
do I have in each level? Left? And the other
thing they don't track well are the I figure what
they're called. But like the data cubes that you used
to upgrade Diana's hacking power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those yellow little boxes you find little secret spots.
Speaker 1: It doesn't tell you on the tram fast tracked.
Speaker 4: No, No, those are not tracked, or at least I
don't remember seeing them. But they you know, they do
tell you how many cases are left, or chests are left,
and some a lot of the other upgrades. But there
is some stuff that I so I did do one
hundred percent of each each level, I did some of
the post game stuff. I played the heck out of
the game. I really really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: It sounds like you did.
Speaker 1: It's great, I did.
Speaker 4: I think it's well.
Speaker 1: I guess we can talk about mixtape I'm sure Dan
will have a lot of thoughts the next episode that.
Speaker 3: He's going to be upset. We talked about it without him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get your elevator thoughts on it.
Speaker 2: What What do you think of mixtape? How's it going?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think similarly, it's getting getting a
lot of praise online. I was hearing a lot about it.
I didn't get any spoilers, but I generally was hearing
like everyone being like, you got to check out this mixtape,
and I was like, Okay, I'll check out this mixtape.
Mixtape is a teenage angsty game, similar to I would
say I haven't felt this emotionally connected to characters since
Night in the Woods. I think it really does nail
the crisis that teens go through of overbearing parents, of
what am I doing with my life? Of I think
I'm wasting away, but I'm also afraid of the future
because I just want to party and do drugs and
that's my safe space. It really does nail that vibe.
It is completely connected to the hip for music, and
it is named mixtape intentionally. I don't know if a
lot of people know this, but the developers intentionally did
not allow this game to have substituted music to stream
it with. You cannot stream this game and swap out
all these amazing tracks. And the devs said very clearly,
we had a vision for this game, and it's important
that you listen to the songs that we chose for
these scenes. And so there's no swapsies. There's no generic
crappy music like you can get and life is strange too.
And this is a dangerous and brilliant move by these
devs because they said it's intentional. We want you to
listen to this very specific song. You can't change it out,
and it's it is thematically relevant to what these kids
are going through. And they are right. This game should
not have had swappable music.
Speaker 4: You should go to jail for mix.
Speaker 3: You go to jail, directly to jail, no trial.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you go to YouTube jail you are unfortunately yeah, sorry.
Speaker 3: But it's worth it. It's worth it. And this is the
type of game. This is how I'll preface it with,
which is like I do like this game is a
four hour experience.
Speaker 4: Ish really really.
Speaker 1: Okay short, it's a long mixtape.
Speaker 3: It's a long mixtape. Please, if you're gonna play this
don't play it on your Steam deck while you're like
had a bar, which is what I like to do.
Do as I say, don't do as I do. I
actually stopped it because I recognized I was what I
was doing was wrong. And then what I ended up
doing was I went home, no.
Speaker 4: Movie, no no podcast.
Speaker 3: No podcasts. I played it with the volume full up.
And that is how you This is how you need
to experience this game, because you are playing a movie
and the way this game is delivering this experience, it
kind of reminds me. Yeah, it's I'm trying to think
of like how I would describe it, but it's like
you'll be in these scenes where you'll be maybe in
someone's bedroom, you're in all there's three main teens in
this that are like best friends that are going through
this is the last day of the summer, this is it.
One of them's moving, two of them have other things
going on. They all have personal issues with their family
and shit that they're figuring out. You're going to be
in each one of their bedrooms and you're gonna like
touch their stuff and you're gonna be like, oh, this
guy has a lava lamp and he has like Uh,
this girl she has a shell because her her sister
and her went to the beach when they were younger.
And this other girl her house, her room is like
it looks like her mom completely designed it for her.
And there's none of her in this because her parents
design this for them. So you're learning about these kids
through their stuff. You're looking at their stuff, and then
the game, the actual design of the game of like
what are you actually doing in it? You'll see an item,
it will rat it to me. These kids they will
be like, remember that time when we were in the
woods getting fucking blasted. It warps you to the woods
and you play out these memories. And then each of
these games I would consider the mini games. You are
doing little things like throwing toilet paper over the house
of someone you don't like, or you are skipping rocks
on the river, or you're drunk in a VHS or
like DVD place and you're renting you're trying to rent
a DVD but you're too drunk and so you're like
falling all over while you're trying to pick your DVDs.
Small mini games that aren't really important, are not really necessary,
but it's how the game delivers that immersion that you
are one of these characters experiencing a valuable memory to
these children's lives, and over the course of the four
hours you just kind of play out this experience. They
learned some lessons, they have some growth, and then it's over.
It's all with a great soundtrack, with a fantastic soundtrack.
It's very important to clarify it's a fantastic sow. I
will listen to the soundtrack on Spotify.
Speaker 1: It's nice to clarify it's Yeah. I was gonna say,
it's like, what are there any songs?
Speaker 2: I would know?
Speaker 1: They didn't create the music, did they?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, No, it's all though, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: That's what's so important about it. And I think, again,
this is like extremely intentional where it's like, uh, it's
spot like iggy pop or something like that. It's like
a lot of it is from the sixties, seventies, eighties,
and a couple tracks from the nineties. I would say
it's mostly seventies eighties is how I would say it.
I think they did a brilliant job finding some obs Yep,
they'll find you'll find some obscure tracks. We would be like,
I don't know that song, but the main character will
be like, the reason you don't know this song is
because these people usually write jingles for commercials, but this
was their only hit.
Speaker 4: But it was really talk about. Like the soundtrack, she'll
say it.
Speaker 3: She breaks the fourth wall, so she'll kind of look
at you and be likes, cool, this this song, it's
set to this, this song. I chose it for a reason.
I chose it for this moment.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's very cool. I didn't realize that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so she she kind of it's it's witty.
It's witty, and you we were just talking about this
with dad. Stuff where it's like, oh my god, it's
so obnoxious. It is so obnoxious to pretend to be
a team. It never works. It's always really moon.
Speaker 4: It's like cringey, corny or like like tryhardy. But yeah,
it's uh, does you think this pulls it off?
Speaker 3: I think it pulls it off most of the time.
Okay most of the time. I laughed out loud with
some of the quips. I remember one of them being like,
oh god, so hot, Like should I like wear shorts?
And they're always trying to be metal. That's like one
of their like annoying little teenager things, which is they're like,
was it metal enough? And they're just like, our shorts
metal and one of the kids goes, I don't fucking
know if shorts are metal? What fucking stupid questions? And
I was like, that's funny, Like they're ribbon on each other.
They don't they like get annoyed with each other. I
think I think it is. It is close enough, and
I did find myself. Of course, there was like cringy
moments where I was like, oh my god, like there
they go again. There's twenty eight year old June, you know,
being a seventeen year old kid. But yeah, for the
most part, I do think that they give you the
vibe that these are kids figuring their shit out. And truly,
the plot of this film is they are trying to
get absolutely blasted. They are looking for alcohol because they're
going to a party and it is their last night
together and they need to get fucked up. And I
think it works for the tone of everything. There's constantly
looking in the nooks and crannies of their house, like
trying to find vodka. It's funny.
Speaker 4: I need to check it out.
Speaker 3: It's four hours, it's four hours. You guys should play it.
Like I will say this like as my last calling card,
Like mixtape is worth four hours of your time. It
really is. It's like a really nice of age film,
but you get to play it. You get to be
these kids and skateboard and dodge the police. Oh it
also like, uh, it kind of skirts reality a couple times,
you know, like maybe in their memories they'll be like,
remember when we like ran from the police, and it's
like you're on a shopping cart going eighty miles an
hour down a street. It should you should be dead. Yeah,
but it's like it's doing it so that you can
enjoy yourself, you know. And our parents used to say,
like I used to walk up hill to school both
ways in this town, it's always downhill because they're always skateboarding,
and it needs to work in the memory. Yeah, so
good news, guys. The bar is downhill from your house,
which is downhill from school, which is downhill from the beach.
Everything's downhill and they're constantly doing kickflips off of cars.
Speaker 4: That's awesome. Check it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah you should.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I know that Dan's not gonna like this, and
I know he's probably gonna say some shit about.
Speaker 4: How it like no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3: I can imagine it in the bit oh yeah, still in.
Speaker 4: The magical reality what are you doing an alternate reality
zone where Dave probably.
Speaker 3: I can imagine a world in which a lot of
people are gonna be like, I don't care about teens lives.
And my my response to that is like, it's four hours,
Like it's a really fun teenage escape and the soundtrack
is killer, So yeah, give it, give it a shot.
Speaker 4: I definitely will.
Speaker 1: We talked briefly about Sorrows. Last time I had played
like an hour. I had not played more. But it
looks like you both played sorrow.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, I played Mary. Have you played uh
Sorrows A bunch of yes.
Speaker 3: I've played. I wish I could say I've played more.
I think I've played six or seven hours of it
so far. I actually been putting way more time into Pragmata,
just because I really like it. But yeah, I've been
putting in some time into Sorrows. I've got, you know,
gotten to the first boss several times now, and of like,
you know, it's fun. I do appreciate that they've they've
slowly allowed me to get stronger with death, and yes,
just say.
Speaker 4: Yes, that is my main that's the main thing that
I keep coming back to, sorrows and uh the reason
why I'm I'm still playing it. I'm up to the
third area trying to make my way through there. That's good.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's good for the third area.
Speaker 4: That's that's adorable.
Speaker 1: Often, boy, get you want a balloon? Did you use
your balloon?
Speaker 3: Did you watch out for the guys with the attacks
in the third area attacks? Yeah, so you really got
to watch out for those.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, you've got some sick cork team Hugh.
Speaker 3: He like breaks through a wall and kool aid. Man,
my god, it's pervert.
Speaker 4: Whoa. I do love that you can just kind of
they have this whole talent tree waiting for you to
just grind out levels. If you're like this is too
hard and you're like okay, you can just do the
same area a thousand times if you want, and basically
war of attrition your way through a boss and be like, yep,
I don't dodge ever now because I just because I
don't have to anymore. So that it's a great. So
I'm in up to the third area and I went
back and I was like, let me just go farm
the first area, and it's awesome. You go back to
the first area area, you're way over leveled and you
can just all the stuff that was such a pan
the butt in the first area becomes very manageable, but
you still get a bunch of currency. And then I
walked out like a run through the first area with
like three thousand Sorrows bucks and I was like, man,
that's a great run. So I think I'm just going
to farm for a while. And just they do put
a kind of a real cap on how far you
can get down the tech tree gated by the boss
that you've beat, so it'll say like, hey, you need
to beat this boss before you really go too far.
But I do think they are I think much more
than oh gosh, it just left my head. What was
the last one they put out? Uh, with the Eternal
this feels like it puts some put some arrows in
your quiver to fight back. Yeah, maternal, I hit a wall.
I was like, this is too frustrating. I don't think
I'm gonna make it to the end of this game.
And I made it pretty far, and I was like,
I was just gonna put this down, and I never
came back to it. This feels like I can just
if I spend some time just farming or grinding away,
it'll be fine. The weapons are fun. The mechanics at
first were felt very obtuse in Seari, so I was like,
what the hell? Why do you Why are you calling
all these normal video game things such weird shit like
why are you calling power command? And why are you
calling this drive and this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but rename everything? Why is my health called pan?
Speaker 1: Yes? Right? Yeah, stop it?
Speaker 4: Yes, stop it? So you're being too cute, but you
kind of wrap your head around it by the end,
and you know, it's very run based, and I think there,
I don't I also if I had Pragmata on my
plate as well, it would be like I'm gonna play Pragmata,
and like we were talking about our project, yeah, it's
like I spent most of my time playing Pragmata, right,
And they're like, I think Pragmata is like a very
digestible game, you know, or you're just like, I know
what I'm doing. I kind of like the atmosphere in
Here and Sorrows feels like a challenge, right, like okay,
all right, let me see how long I can last
in sorrows. I think it's cool. You know, it's very
space madness. So it's a very different tone. I don't
know why I'm comparing it to pragmada, but it's not
nothing like the tone of it though, would be pretty
funny if you got a little space madness, but it's
very like, uh, you know, Carcosa is the name of
the world, and it's like the yellow King and then
the whole thing it really is. Yeah, and like you know,
the eclipse, so let's is going in times of flat
circle the whole time. It really really is. And you know,
everybody's getting space madness on this planet and you probably
have the space madness as well.
Speaker 1: Yes it is.
Speaker 3: It is alluded that you might also get space madness,
and you'll like listen to these old tapes, which I
have to say, like I'm not sure if this is
the way the game is designed or if this is
just me, but every time I get one of these tapes,
they're like the blood is on the walls and I
just want to and I'm like, I don't give a
shit about this. You're not actually adding to the story.
I already know the story, which is this guy's got
space madness, and so all these tapes don't really provide
me any lore or context. So I've learned to completely
ignore them. The only thing I think about when I
play Sorrows is kill them all and try and level up,
because that's what you need to do in this game.
I am like, dodge, dodge, min max, get the items. Uh,
that's that's what I give a shit about. And I've
kind of lost all semblance of who am I? Why
am I here? What does it matter? The story is
like of no consequence to me. I don't know if
that was their intention.
Speaker 4: The story is hangs out in the background, and I
feel like Pops its set up for me at interesting
points and and we'll drop a little like story bomb
here and there, and I'm like, whoo, okay, okay. But
then yeah, it's it's a weird. It's a weird divergence
because you get like this very serious, like we're all
gonna die here, Yeah, we've all got space madness. This
fucking needed stabbing his eyes out with a pencil like
this one just like is eating his own fingers, and
you're like, I'm gonna go out there and dodge a
thousand blue bullets. These motherfuckers and their blue bullets. Sometimes
they're red, sometimes they're Now I have to go choose
between a gun I just got from a drop. It's
a little bit of a disconnect. It's very video gaming
when you're out there, and it's just like you know,
it feels like.
Speaker 3: Very bitty game. So you guys got a lot going on.
But I got to figure out how long my shield
lasts for because it's very important to me. I don't
have the same mental state as these other characters, and
so I don't care about them or feel connected to them.
I have my own vision. I'm the only one going
out there and doing a lot of work, and Jerome
is out there.
Speaker 4: There's one other guy out there who's screaming in the
background a lot.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he's getting worked one. They're coming out of
the walls.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I can't get past the first balls.
Speaker 1: Really hard.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I agree, it's fun.
Speaker 4: You should have leveled up a little bit before going
that far.
Speaker 5: I don't know what.
Speaker 3: You don't have to grind.
Speaker 4: Jeremy get out there, and I'm going to stay at
the base for a bet. You have good luck out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it's a cool game. It's very very action y,
and we'll see where the story goes, but it does
feel like it's kind of going through some well worn
paths here on the space mad in this front, we'll
see things. It's cool. Look at I love and it moves.
It's well designed.
Speaker 3: It's well designed. Oh, extraordinary beautiful. I was actually I
wanted to ask you guys this because this is something
I was like, is this a me thing or is
other people experiencing this? The game is unbelievably beautiful and
they knew this. And there's a shit ton of detail
where there doesn't need to be any right, So like
if you're you run really fast in this game, very
fast character, and that means is a wide view of
your characters. There's lots of room for balls and you're
sprinting through this space. Everything has so much detail in
the plant life and in the stunning architecture and the
statues that are mostly hands. And I found myself getting
a headache because I think there's so much to look
at that's interesting. My mind didn't know where to focus
and I have to be like very clear, look at
the character I don't think I'm getting I don't know
if it's motion sickness. There's so much goddamn detail. I'm
distracted by the environment when I should be focusing on
all of these balls that are coming at me every
minute of the time. It's almost like it sounds crazy,
but it's almost like I wish they had more depth
of field so that things were blurrier because I'm looking
at it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, especially when you're in the interior environments and
you don't just have sky above you. Yeah, it's a
visually it's a visually dense scheme for sure. I didn't
get any headaches or motion sick but I do find
I think they do an okay job with the threat
ring around you when they're like something's coming from your side. Yeah,
and you are very mobile. But yeah, it is visually
dense for sure. And there's like they use a lot
of different colors to indicate a lot of different things
at all times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, red red camp. You know you gotta avoid those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I read you're dead.
Speaker 3: You read you're dead. As they said, as the guy
with face madness said to me right before he screamed
because blood was coming out of his eyes.
Speaker 4: That's he likes the paint and blood. The Yeah, I
think it's cool. I did not. I did not get
a headache or or any of that, but but.
Speaker 1: I I had. There's some readability issues for sure on
the screen going on. Yeah, I didn't get a headache,
but it's like I remember Returnal was definitely like Stark
in comparison.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it was like it was muted. And this
game is like Red Blue Skies. The fauna, the a
lot of the plant life is like red and it's
just there's a lot going on. But I I haven't
heard anyone else say that, so I think sometimes I'll
just say this after like two hours, I need a break.
I need a break of Sorrows because it's it's mentally draining,
it's physically draining. My thumbies are sore. I can play
prag model day baby.
Speaker 4: But he doesn't want to. He was like, take a break, Mary, everybody.
Speaker 3: I'm tired. Yeah, they took off break though, dude, No
from what's he from?
Speaker 4: Okay, Midnight Mass? Okay, the main actor from Uh Sorrows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's in. He's in all of those, so Midnight
Mass is the most recent one. But they did like
a whole series of those horror movies that come out
every year. Okay, regular, Yeah, he's in all of the
Mike flannagans.
Speaker 1: He was not in Haunting of Hill House. He was
in Turn the Screw maybe, or the Haunting of Blind Manner,
which is turned the base on Turn Screw. He was
in that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he was in Blind Manner. And he was
in the newest one that they.
Speaker 2: Made to Midnight Children neon thing, whatever it's.
Speaker 3: Called, don't they just they just added midnight and they
released it in October. The kids don't have parents, they're
in the corn.
Speaker 1: And then that Mike Flanagan's, Oh that's compelling. I'm gonna
make a show.
Speaker 3: Here's a vampire in the background.
Speaker 2: Story.
Speaker 1: I'll set it too specific music that you can't stream.
Speaker 3: That's a callback.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, he's a good actor and this character is
is intriguing. They're great to look at, they're great to
listen to. I got no problems with the main character.
It's all good. Maybe, like that's a great choice for
an actor, and I loved that part of it, So yeah,
I got no qualms with that. I think I think
maybe I sometimes it feels a little busy, but I
am enjoying it. I'll probably play it this weekend, like
I will probably I will continue to play. So I
was like, I'm not done with that game, but I
have to like pump myself up for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do too. Yeah, I played someone it this morning.
I was like, I had to get ready. I had to, like,
you know, do some jumping jacks and stuff.
Speaker 3: I look myself in the eye. I smacked myself around
before the controller when I play.
Speaker 4: Okay, here we go doing some runs. Yeah, Mike, are
you gonna play more of it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Definitely.
Speaker 1: I've got Siderarack of Pragmata and then I'm playing some
other stuff for work that has delayed me playing more Sorrows.
But I still need to go back and play more
Haities too. There's there's a lot I need to catch
up on in that space, for sure, But.
Speaker 4: A lot of games out. There's a lot of games out.
It's they keep making them.
Speaker 1: I got playing more Vampire Crawlers as well, but I
didn't play enough of that to talk about it yet.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you had one more?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Windrows.
Speaker 4: Wind Rows is that we've been playing that, We've been
streaming that and then It's one of those few games
that we we stream. It's a pirate a survival game
that is PvE with like four other people. And it's
the thing I like about it is that it's very
generous to the player for a survival game, like you know,
like for a rock and stick game. It's just like,
you know, you're just gonna go bash a tree and
then make an axe, and it's it's just like doesn't
punish you. You can make teleportation things that you got
a big boat pretty quickly. I just I just dig it.
There's not that much pirate stuff out there that sticks
with me, and I think pirate stuff is just fun.
Speaker 3: It's fun probably to see other pirates on another ship
and do you like attack their ships and stuff like
were you guys like raiding other people online ships and killing.
Speaker 4: It's it's only like, yeah, this is the thing. I
think they wanted it to be like a big multiplayer thing,
but it's only like four players. So yeah, so I
think this is just like get on do some pirate
stuff with your friends, and we'll go yeah, and we'll
go take on like a couple of friends, we'll go
take on the AI.
Speaker 3: And the you're taking on NPCs, but I liked it.
Speaker 4: I like to run around for bet and just kind
of grinding away on that pirate life. You know, it's
gotta go grin, gotta grind that pirate life.
Speaker 3: Get that, and that's cool. I'm looking at the videos
here and it looks like you can plant and garden
in it.
Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting how.
Speaker 3: Deep this goes. I wouldn't imagine pirates being like, I
gotta plant more carrots.
Speaker 4: Were hungry, right right right? Would you steal? Oh?
Speaker 5: Good, some broccolini seeds. That's good, that's good.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get out our mead fucking.
Speaker 1: Cow, my goose, I'm stuffing him full of food sagra.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good.
Speaker 3: There's at least one of those pirates in the group.
That's just like, what's the sauce tonight?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Have it?
Speaker 3: Like we're all fucking running around killing people and slicing
their throats. And Mike is like, I found a beaujeet
under here.
Speaker 4: This guy's got have coke duster. Whoa guys, whoa whoa
whoa who stop?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: With all burgundy shoes, pirate burgundy shoes, it's gonna be
so good. And when you kill someone, you're like, they're
Burgundy shoes because I like Burgundy.
Speaker 2: Wine of sculling corkscrews.
Speaker 5: Everybody thinks that all the all the like tail is
that your shoes are red because of blood, the blood
of your enemy is like, no, no, he likes Burgundy.
Speaker 1: Wo.
Speaker 2: I love Jeffra Schamberts. Go crazy for that ship.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, shamble, Oh my god, I gotta get Yeah, the.
Speaker 5: Burgundy loafs so much classes wide, what did you just shipping?
My hands imported the.
Speaker 1: Straight from the bottle. Why don't I just boof this
wine right now?
Speaker 3: Pirates?
Speaker 1: I want to try to. I had to see if
Thieves period. I know this looks decidedly different, more survival focus,
but I want to try it. I like survival games
and they're done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the pirate theme that that that brings me in.
And then I played. I don't know if you guys
have seen a game called Replaced, which I'm trying to
make my way through, but I keep getting distracted by
all those other games. It's a it's like a two D,
three D two point five D pixelardy game, very much
like Old Blackthorn or fade the black or flashback. I
always forget which one was going first. Anyway, like that,
but modernized and it's cool. It's a cool one.
Speaker 1: I like it, very cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this looks like a merry game for sure. I
like stuff like this where you're side scrolling, yes, searching
for stuff?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 3: Can you just tld army the plot here?
Speaker 1: What do you?
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 4: It's it's it is a little bit of a weird one.
But it is an alternate history where like a nuke
went off in the in the I don't know if
it's in the forties or fifties, and to recover this
organization I'll do not too long was made called the
Phoenix Corp. And they basically harvest organs from healthy people
or not healthy people to save healthy people. You understand
how that might go wrong at some point, And basically
the very short story is the owner of the corp
gets his brain that transplanted with the AI that's running it,
and you're actually the AI controlling the body of the owner,
and the AI is going through the world being like,
pretty fucked up, we really shouldn't harvested all these organs
from these people. And then thrown them into this kind
of horrible nightmare situation wasteland, and so you're trying to
get back.
Speaker 3: Out of the nightmare, well.
Speaker 4: Out of the wastelands. And it's cool. It moves pretty
quickly and I actually don't think it's that long on
a game. I'm just taking my time with it.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, I do have one more I do need
to say. Okay, have you guys played Forbidden Solitaire? No,
you guys should play Forbidden Solitaire. You guys, you know
how Mary you were like, it's four hours mixtape. Even
if you have mixed feelings about you should just try it.
Forbidden Solitaire is one of those fake os haunted game games.
I'm sorry you called me out. Yes, it has FMB.
It is basically this. The setup is you're you're booting
up your computer and you've got a copy of this game,
Forbidden Solitaire, and like your sister somebody's like, holy shit,
got you have Forbidden Solitaire? I can't even find that
game anywhere, and you start playing it and your sister's
like messaging you being like I found these like old
news reports about like people digging their eyes out with
spoons from playing Forbidden Solitaire, and there's madness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all the madness in these games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really like crazy Forbidden Solitary.
Speaker 3: This is great. Yeah, I love I love this vibe.
Speaker 1: A sort of.
Speaker 3: It does have inscription vibes. I do I love an
F MV game. I'm like such a sucker for shit
like this. And can I just ask you though, like,
ultimately is the gameplay solitaire?
Speaker 4: It's solitaire? Ask it's if you guys ever played like
Regency Solitaire or any of the other solitaire types. Uh,
it is solitaire, like what they do some fun twists
on it, so it is. It is. It is not
a very deep premise for for or gameplay, but it works.
Speaker 3: This is also my chan.
Speaker 2: I want to try this out. This looks red.
Speaker 4: It's so silly and uh yeah, you guys should.
Speaker 3: Try very cool. Thank you for sharing this one pleasure.
I love this.
Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about emails?
Speaker 3: Yes, let's discuss them all right.
Speaker 1: As usual, you can write into Firescape casts at gmail
dot com for some question you might want read on
the show. We got one today from Morgan from New Orleans. Mary.
Speaker 2: Do you want to read this one?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 3: Greetings arsonists, I was talking to a friend of mine
the other day and we were talking about how bar
bets party tricks. Oh, we're just talking about bar bets
and party tricks we used to do to win free drinks.
Way back when I mentioned how because of my double
jointed shoulder in long tongue, I can lick my own elbow,
even though that's supposed to be impossible, I'd like, I'd
like to buy you a drink, Morgan. So I ask,
what's your most obscure talent that you like to break
out in front of people? Love hearing your adventures in
New Orleans when you were here, Morgan from New Orleansso.
Speaker 1: Have a double jointed shoulder and a long tongue, lick
your elbowing?
Speaker 3: He can't do that, but he can he can lick
his own button.
Speaker 2: I'm not getting it close.
Speaker 1: Actually, he was writing. I was like, that's not that impressive, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's impossible. You can't do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are yours? Do you have one? Do you
have a weird skill that you bust out?
Speaker 1: Mary?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think I I was thinking about this
one earlier. I don't know if I have like a
super cool skill at the bar I think I'm generally
entertaining to bring to a bar. I think usually I
think I agree with that. If you were gonna bring
someone to a bar, I'm a good person.
Speaker 1: I will.
Speaker 3: I will have fun with any person, even if they're
boring or annoying. I will. I will make it fun.
I have lots of quips and jokes. I will probably
make people laugh. But do I have like a cool
obscure skill. I don't think so. I probably could do
a handstand if you you know, if the situation called
for it. That might impress some people, but I don't
think you'd write home about it.
Speaker 1: I I My skill is I can tell a joke.
I can make up a really funny joke on the
spot and tell it and make people laugh.
Speaker 4: Tell me a joke.
Speaker 1: Someone asked me to donate to a children's hospital the
other day. I said, where the hell are all these
kids getting their medical degrees? Oh no, it's not my skill.
Speaker 3: I'm actually Manny's skill was not laughing Wow, to break.
Speaker 1: You down objectively hilarious jokes. I'm speaking of bar stuff.
I'm way better at darts than most people expect. Okay,
I've had a lot of darts growing up with my grandfather.
He was that's the funniest thing. I don't hustle people.
Maybe I should, though, maybe I should start hustling a
little shark. Yeah, you're just missing the board and then
someone's like, oh, you want to put some money out
of the shore, and then it's like fucking b boom
boo boom boom boom, triple twenty, triple twenty, triple twenty.
Speaker 4: See that's a fun one. Yeah, Like when when when
people are playing for fun and you're like this fucking
this guy over here is like a darts champion. I
wish I had skills, Like that's.
Speaker 3: What's your skill, Vinnie, I don't have.
Speaker 4: I don't really have one. I yeah, I don't really
have one.
Speaker 1: I Uh.
Speaker 4: I wish I did like a bar a specific bar
thing or anything in general. I could do, Like I
could do a little bit of like close up magic.
That's always fun. My whole set, just so everybody understands,
and you guys understand, my whole set is is basically
what I can do to entertain a five year old right,
Like It's like I can juggle for like four seconds.
I could like do a little I could do a
card two or three card tricks that are like pretty
good but for a five year old and if you're
like seven or eight, you already know what's going on. Yeah,
that that's basically it for bar stuff. But I wish
there's stuff I always wanted to and it always felt
like I'd be forcing it, like little little talents like oh,
like I should I should figure out like a way
to flip a cup or something like that that always
you know, lands or I wish I was like one
of those people who this is a true true thing.
I was like, I wish I should memorize like three
or four Bible quotes. I always want to be one
of those people who could just like pull a fucking Bible.
Speaker 3: People love that at a party.
Speaker 4: I've always so much. I've always thought that Ezekiel seven
twenty seven, maybe the fishes and the birds drink our
feasts of blood tonight.
Speaker 1: And below the firmament. No, yea, you don't be even
cooler if you remember, like you know, like there's the Leviticus.
There's like really up stuff about you remember quotes from
that that you can bust out.
Speaker 3: And then he drank the blood for those children.
Speaker 2: And his son was dead and it was good.
Speaker 5: I'd be like, why did you say that?
Speaker 4: My boy? You can coins here? Huh hello? A couple
of bucks?
Speaker 3: Has is his spinning bow tie? When he gets into trouble.
Who then he jumps out a window.
Speaker 1: As Judis said, that's the guy. Yeah him, that guy.
Fuck that ship.
Speaker 4: I'm out.
Speaker 3: I wish we did have.
Speaker 1: I wish I've got some cool card magic tricks that
I can do. There's a few.
Speaker 4: Everybody should know. One or two.
Speaker 3: You should know one card trick.
Speaker 1: At our Bachelor Bachelorette thing. I think I busted out
the one that I taught everybody that's like, it's math based. Yes,
it's cool. The thirteen, the multiples are thirteen. It's a vinnie.
I feel like you'd get kick out of it. It's
like impossible to suck up once you remember the steps.
Speaker 4: I'm a terrible math person.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm counting to thirteen.
Speaker 1: Basically, Okay, well you lost me.
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to take off his shoes.
Speaker 4: Is this your card?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: Fuck you?
Speaker 3: Then you're just a bully.
Speaker 4: Is your this is your card?
Speaker 1: Now? Okay, I'm sorry. Five? What it funny?
Speaker 3: Did you think I was funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what did you think this was a fucking trick?
This is for real.
Speaker 1: I got to eat.
Speaker 3: You're our waiter, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I gotta get back there before the bindows are gone.
Speaker 4: Don't break another glass, Carol, there the expensive ones.
Speaker 1: Thomas is away.
Speaker 3: Speaking of breaking glasses, I have spilled my drink while
I stream so much that I have just started using
a sippy cup when I uh and I stream in
podcast now and it is the safest, most reliable vessel
for my liquid that I have found.
Speaker 4: And I.
Speaker 3: Too they don't give me sustenance. Well, the diapers would
help me, I guess, but I I find that the
sippy cup they would. I wouldn't have to go to
the bathroom between the podcasts.
Speaker 2: Whoop's gotta change my depends be right back.
Speaker 4: Did you put your did you put your bloody mary
in there?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: That would I think that'd be hard to clean only
water and stuff with a straw. I think that that's problematic.
Speaker 1: Yet's keep that it's also maybe the.
Speaker 3: Passage of the alcoholic. Once you start putting liquor in
a sippy cup, you have a fucking problem.
Speaker 2: That's the first step.
Speaker 4: I think you might be right. When you're doing hard
drinks through a sippy cup, it's time. Why do you
do that? Because when I got drunk, I smell that ship.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: What a way treating expensive wine glasses are?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Imagine if that guy comes in again
and I bring us, I pour the wine into a
sippy cup.
Speaker 4: From because you're an idiot.
Speaker 1: Because you're an idiot, boy, I don't want to.
Speaker 4: I don't want this to get on your shoes.
Speaker 3: Still up for the burgundy, boy, please?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's red, just for you.
Speaker 1: Here's your ninety five room in a little sippy cup,
you little little boy.
Speaker 4: Little I got it from Area three. I heard it's
very good, and he.
Speaker 1: Said, I'm going to get some burgundy shoes and then
just be an asshole the rest of my life.
Speaker 4: Mary. That Pikachu behind you is that there all the time?
Speaker 1: He's there all the time.
Speaker 3: Do you move him from occasionally?
Speaker 2: You don't need to move he moves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been there for a while. I don't know. Actually,
he should probably go on like a little stool or
a tiny chair for children. I think would be fun.
But he just sits on the floor.
Speaker 4: I think okay. I think it would be better if
you turn him so he's facing the corner. It's like
like just like real, like you.
Speaker 3: Want him to look like he's in trouble, like a dunk.
Speaker 4: I need this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it's like a cat.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes, yes, yeah, that's the horror movie.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 4: That's it right there.
Speaker 2: He'll be back around before the end.
Speaker 3: For audio listeners, I have I have Blair witched my
Pikachu and he's just staring at a wall.
Speaker 4: It's like a three foot Pikachu now staring at the wall, like, yes,
very good.
Speaker 1: Thanks. Kind of funny that the guy who does that
in the movie, his name is Mike, the one who
stares at the wall.
Speaker 3: That's like a memory I wouldn't have unless their name
was Mary. Yeah, I would not want. I don't retain
the names of horror movie victims.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 4: I've got them all on a list.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you someone who dies now uh chansawm ask her.
Speaker 2: Tommy, Alan, Lisa, and Greg.
Speaker 4: He got them all.
Speaker 1: Wait, that's impressive, Sarah, Lisa, Alan, and Greg. Now I
made all those up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, such a good bar skill, even if you're lying
out your ass. I would be like this guy is
a genius.
Speaker 1: Mikey Mocky, Timmy, Tommy, Greg say it again. That's all nine.
Speaker 4: I think. I assume that's what you do when you're
working at the wine bar. You're just making ship up
constantly and being like, Wow, this is a Reesling forty
two seventy five or whatever, like wow, he really knows
his ship. Really.
Speaker 1: I turn around look at the other songs, like, no,
do you just say sir pentor he too is a
bit of a cooler vintage.
Speaker 4: Oh I don't know that. One of sorrows.
Speaker 1: I get another.
Speaker 3: Guess I was flirting, just shoving video game names in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, uh yeah, I I that's maybe that is
my talent naming horror movie victims.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: That's a good one.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well that's all I got.
Speaker 4: Yeah, keeping keeping conversations going, that's good. Yeah, yeah, you
did it.
Speaker 1: Let me go.
Speaker 3: I usually stop posting.
Speaker 1: There's a lotus takeover.
Speaker 3: A fire Escape march. It's on our socials. You're gonna
want to check out fire Escape.
Speaker 1: So you can go to fire skate cast dot com.
That's our site. If you're not a patron and you
want to be, you can get ad free episodes. You
can get the video episodes. You can see Vinnie's immaculate
background very Oh my gosh, it's so good, Mike. You
can you can see my all, my my tomes, my
wine books. I'm a very intellectual person.
Speaker 3: I like people to know that just so many wine tombs.
I have like a tortured Pikachu and Vinnie's. Vinnie's background
looks like one of those spot the Difference pictures where
like you will take two of them and he's just
turned around one of his pieces of trash and you
have to circle it.
Speaker 4: There's three hammers nailed to a wall.
Speaker 3: I don't he's doing back there. So smart of you
to make fun of my background to try and confuse
our listeners. I'm the one with the weird background on
this podcast.
Speaker 4: Yours, yours is yours is like a accurate and very
like clean except for this Pikachu that now it's it's
very good. Yes, I'm I'm flood the zone.
Speaker 3: We don't know what's weird about your background because I
cannot differentiate the four hundred pieces of lore that are
going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you look like you're on your way to being
on Hoarders but you know, finale, the season finale of it.
Speaker 4: There's like like the hair coming coming out of here,
you know, you.
Speaker 1: Know, we we don't talk about above an unopened bottle
of Windex on the floor.
Speaker 3: None of your god damn business.
Speaker 1: Is that a car battery?
Speaker 4: You're right, you know the probably It's like a lot
of stuff happens here.
Speaker 1: Okay, sometimes I'm a dad. Okay, we're going on.
Speaker 4: I'm a dad.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I got spell.
Speaker 3: I say it like you would say it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, listen, Diana. Sometimes a car battery starts a car,
and sometimes it starts your next life after your parents
have abandoned.
Speaker 3: Go play with your balloon, little girl.
Speaker 4: Go play with your car battery.
Speaker 1: I brought you a car battery.
Speaker 3: And she's like, oh my gosh, you this uh, this
could kill someone.
Speaker 4: It could. But death is just another part of life, Dad.
Speaker 1: Death is part of death. That's the wrong way to
look at it. This is not really a beach, but
at the same time it is. Yeah, you gotta firescape
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to explain it to you.
Speaker 4: Vinnie, that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 1: All of Mike and Vinnie Save the World is on
u now for the video patrons. You can also go
watch Mike and Vine destroy the world at next Lander.
Vinnie tell people what what kind of what kind of
stuff you got going on a next Lander they should
go check out. Yeah.
Speaker 4: If you go to next lander dot com or Patreon
dot com, slash next Lander or cork Taint dot com,
you can go find all of our stuff. We've got
a bunch of podcasts about video games, movies. You have
to watch cast. That's probably my favorite thing. It's very
fun where we watch movies and we talk about them.
We're currently doing documentaries. Just did a big one on
Action Park on Monday. Yeah, class Action Park, so you know,
all the stuff, same stuff. And as Mike said, Mike
and Vinnie destroy the world, which we did. We did,
which was the one where I where I beat your
your guys, that was that was on fire Escape. I
was ironically you beat me on my home turf. Yeah,
and then I beat your I feel like you got
like this is never happening again, gift.
Speaker 1: I took that personally, and then I just fucking annihilated
you with the other No me handily in the first one.
It was a much better army Mary. What do you
have going on?
Speaker 3: I stream every Monday, usually the games that I talk
about here. I have been playing a lot of Pragmata
on there, and I think I'm gonna play this new
Solitaire game really that sounds like really fun. So thanks
for checking me out on on the Twitch and Dog
in a Backpack and my tape adventures are on Instagram.
I've been collecting VHS's Vinnie. I watched The Rock on
VHS last weekend.
Speaker 2: It was great, nice hot tub. It looked like a
very fun in a hot tub.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like a ninety degree day, so I
watched it while I was in a hot time. Cool
tub I turned it down.
Speaker 1: OK, thank you for thank you for stopping by. Vinnie
Dan tape at some point he'll probably be on the
next episode. Maybe not, but uh yeah. Go check out
next Lander if you haven't already.
Speaker 2: It's amazing.
Speaker 1: They do some awesome stuff. Brad, Alex and Vinnie over there.
And we will be back with episode one thirty three
in a couple of weeks. Thanks everybody, see ya all right,
bye bye