1 00:00:27,839 --> 00:00:30,359 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. I'm Martin Willis 2 00:00:30,359 --> 00:00:32,880 your host. We've got a great show for you this evening. 3 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,280 Bill Carter, who actually reached out to me during one 4 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,719 of my live streams and I popped in my email 5 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:42,520 address and we've been in touch. A very interesting guy. 6 00:00:43,439 --> 00:00:49,079 Should be quite fascinating, and so stay tuned for that. 7 00:00:49,719 --> 00:00:52,560 Just a couple of things. First of all, here's our 8 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,359 latest blog and that is by Charles lear The It's 9 00:00:57,439 --> 00:01:03,359 titled a nineteen eighty nine UFO Occupant Report from Foreignez Russia. 10 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:08,760 That's one case that I've always been fascinated in and 11 00:01:10,239 --> 00:01:12,280 I don't know what to make of it after, you know, 12 00:01:12,359 --> 00:01:16,599 reading his research, because there's it could have been one 13 00:01:16,599 --> 00:01:20,400 of those things that it was a hoax. It's I 14 00:01:20,439 --> 00:01:22,599 hate to say that because it seems like such an 15 00:01:22,599 --> 00:01:26,159 interesting one. But anyway, check that out over at PODCASTUFO 16 00:01:26,239 --> 00:01:28,799 dot com. And if you're listening to the show and 17 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,200 it has commercials on audio, you can always just join 18 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,959 Patreon for three dollars or more a month and be 19 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,439 ad free and that is right on our website under 20 00:01:40,599 --> 00:01:45,840 support supporting Us. So anyway, we are about ready to 21 00:01:46,159 --> 00:01:48,519 bring our guests in I want to thank everyone that 22 00:01:48,599 --> 00:01:52,000 watches the show, listens to the show. I really appreciate 23 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,599 it and glad you're here. 24 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: Hello Bill, Nice to meet you and finally get to 25 00:01:57,439 --> 00:02:00,879 talk to you Martin. I know we've spoken a few times, 26 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,280 just touch and go, but I'm glad if I would 27 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,400 be able to sit down with you. 28 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,599 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, and you have you were in the military. 29 00:02:10,599 --> 00:02:12,000 Did I hear you say three times? 30 00:02:12,879 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? I served four in the Marine Corps, three in 31 00:02:19,319 --> 00:02:22,280 the Army and National Guard, and then three again in 32 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,879 just the National Guard. The last time I was in. 33 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: That pretty amazing. 34 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: So but you also one of the things you told 35 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,759 me is so you've had you had a childhood UFO 36 00:02:34,879 --> 00:02:38,639 seting that kind of alerted you to there's something going 37 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,199 on unusual. 38 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:46,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. When I was living in Whole, Georgia, right outside 39 00:02:46,039 --> 00:02:49,800 of Athens, Georgia. My family lived there when I was 40 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:59,520 really young, and yeah, happened around nineteen seventy seven. We 41 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:05,439 were outside. It was pretty warm that night. I remember 42 00:03:05,439 --> 00:03:07,400 it because I didn't have any shoes on. Back then, 43 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:10,560 you know, kids they liked to run around barefooted a lot, 44 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,280 and I was going from my uncle's house he lived. Well, 45 00:03:14,319 --> 00:03:17,599 it was actually a trailer across from ours. We lived 46 00:03:17,599 --> 00:03:20,919 in a very very small trailer park in Whule, Georgia, 47 00:03:22,319 --> 00:03:26,919 and I was going across this little gravel road going 48 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,400 to our trailer that we lived in, and I saw 49 00:03:30,439 --> 00:03:34,639 something out the corner of my eye and it looked 50 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,120 at first like a glowing fire. I thought, actually that 51 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,199 the field was on fire. I'd never really been around 52 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:47,759 any like big fires or anything at that age, but 53 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,800 it was enough to scare me, and I just froze 54 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,280 and looked at it, and I could see it was 55 00:03:55,319 --> 00:04:00,919 about maybe eighty yards away, and I could see these 56 00:04:01,639 --> 00:04:08,280 colors like orangish red, coming through the trees. And while 57 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,719 I was standing there, I heard my mother behind me 58 00:04:11,919 --> 00:04:14,599 calling my name, you know, she was whispering, and she 59 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:18,720 was off to my left, and her and my sister 60 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:21,519 were duck down behind the trailer that we lived in, 61 00:04:21,959 --> 00:04:27,759 trying to get me across the road. So finally I 62 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,800 ran across the road and got behind her, and I 63 00:04:32,879 --> 00:04:35,319 kept trying to look at it, trying to, you know, 64 00:04:35,439 --> 00:04:41,000 just see what it was, because she wasn't given any explanations, 65 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,759 and I could tell she was pretty scared herself. And 66 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,160 that was basically all I remembered at the time. So 67 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:56,839 fast forward to two thousand and nine and my unit 68 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,759 was at Egglin Air Force Base. We were there for 69 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:06,600 about two weeks. We actually had two missions there. One 70 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,759 was marijuana eradication and the other was garrison security. In 71 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,600 the days we did garrison security, we did it with 72 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,480 the Air Force Security Force guys, and one day he 73 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,480 asked if I wanted to go up to this site 74 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:31,199 with him. It was a restricted site, didn't look very 75 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:36,360 impressive at all, and it looked like just a small 76 00:05:36,439 --> 00:05:42,240 radio station basically, and we got out. I went in 77 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:47,680 behind him, and as soon as we got into the lobby, 78 00:05:48,879 --> 00:05:53,079 there was another Air Force Security Force guy over to 79 00:05:53,199 --> 00:05:57,759 my left and on the wall I read this huge 80 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:04,000 mission statement that read we monitor all space activity terrestrial 81 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,720 and extraterrestrial from planet Earth. And my jaw just dropped. 82 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:15,079 And when I read that, I immediately thought about the time 83 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:20,680 when I was in Georgia back in seventy seven, and 84 00:06:20,759 --> 00:06:22,759 I thought about something I hadn't thought about since I 85 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,879 was a kid. And I looked over to my left 86 00:06:24,879 --> 00:06:27,560 and this guard at this podium over to the left 87 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:30,120 is just grinting from ear to ear at me reading 88 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:35,480 this sign and the security force guy that went in 89 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,439 there ahead of me. He was talking to a guy 90 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,959 in a white lab coat, and I didn't take another 91 00:06:41,959 --> 00:06:46,800 step into the place. I basically was just all struck 92 00:06:46,879 --> 00:06:52,360 by what I was seeing because the place it really 93 00:06:52,439 --> 00:06:55,600 wasn't impressive. It looked like maybe like an old radio 94 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,759 station or something. Even when we left, I'd never talked 95 00:06:59,759 --> 00:07:03,360 to the guy about what the place was. After we left, 96 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,879 it took me a few years to really think about 97 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:15,160 what I had saw there, and I recalled when we 98 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:19,720 got to the base. Usually when you get to a 99 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,360 new military base, you get a safety briefing. Usually military 100 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:30,839 police will get what you call am trying to remember 101 00:07:30,879 --> 00:07:33,600 the word that we used for that. You get basically 102 00:07:34,279 --> 00:07:38,199 a brief every day before you got on patrol. Well, 103 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,040 they give you the rundown of the base. And one 104 00:07:40,079 --> 00:07:42,160 of the things they told us there when we got 105 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:47,120 there was that if we rode with the marine patrol 106 00:07:47,279 --> 00:07:50,360 in the water surrounding the base, that we might get 107 00:07:50,439 --> 00:07:53,360 to see some space junk that occasionally falls into water 108 00:07:54,079 --> 00:07:59,759 surrounding the base. Now I had forgot about them telling 109 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,600 us that When we first got there. We all just 110 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,279 kind of laughed it off and I remember thinking that's 111 00:08:07,279 --> 00:08:10,879 something I would not want to do, especially if it's 112 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,240 you know, been somewhere else and it falls in the water. 113 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:15,879 I didn't want to touch the thing, whatever it was. 114 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,000 So some interesting things happened, you know, when I had 115 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,439 time to look back on the place after I left. 116 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:28,360 One of the days that I was in hum Vy, 117 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:35,159 when we were doing marijuana eradication, I had stopped on 118 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,000 a dirt road not far from the Sight C six 119 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:44,000 where I was there, and I had to make a 120 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:49,279 nature call. So I heard like a twig crack or 121 00:08:49,279 --> 00:08:52,720 something behind me, and I looked over and it was 122 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:58,799 about ten guys dressed in black. They had black camouflage faces, 123 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,279 you know, and they had these like repelling helmets like 124 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,320 special forces would use. They weren't like regular military helmets. 125 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,919 And we were billeted there. It was about five miles 126 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:18,000 away from the Army ranger camp where we were. So 127 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:24,960 after I left Eglin a few years later, I had 128 00:09:25,279 --> 00:09:28,320 mentioned to my mother about what happened to us in 129 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:33,960 Whole Georgia back in the seventies, and she about jumped 130 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,360 out of her chair when I mentioned it. She said, you, Rember, 131 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,039 remember that. I said, yeah, I remember, it remember it 132 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,919 very well because I'd always thought that maybe it was 133 00:09:45,919 --> 00:09:50,240 a dream. But I remember us going through a bob 134 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,080 war fence the next day. The next day after that happened, 135 00:09:56,279 --> 00:09:59,360 we had a barb war fence at the end of 136 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:03,159 the trailer par so you have let me give you 137 00:10:03,279 --> 00:10:05,120 a picture of what the trailer part looked like. It 138 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:08,039 had like four trailers on one side for the other. 139 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,720 To me as a kid, it looked huge, but going 140 00:10:10,759 --> 00:10:13,840 back years later, it's just a small place. But then 141 00:10:13,879 --> 00:10:16,840 you had like a gravel driveway that went through the 142 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,360 middle of it, and at the end there was a 143 00:10:19,399 --> 00:10:23,360 barb war fence in a big field next to where 144 00:10:23,399 --> 00:10:26,799 we lived. So the next day we go through the 145 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,639 barb war fence, and I remembered us standing around a 146 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:37,440 huge burnt circle on the ground. And she was really 147 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,120 surprised that I remembered it, and I asked her about it, 148 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:46,519 and she had never told me what happened that night 149 00:10:47,159 --> 00:10:49,960 because I remembered seeing it. I remember, you know, getting 150 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,279 behind her. She said that I kept trying to look 151 00:10:52,279 --> 00:10:54,679 around her to see it. But what she told me 152 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,679 was that she had seen it land and that when 153 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,720 she seemed like a ramp come out of the thing. 154 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,879 She said, that's when she got us and took us 155 00:11:06,919 --> 00:11:10,120 in the house and locked the door. And I asked 156 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,120 her why, you know they never called the police. I said, 157 00:11:14,159 --> 00:11:16,960 you ever talked to anybody about it? She said no, 158 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,759 because a lot of people were having sightings down there 159 00:11:19,799 --> 00:11:22,399 back in those days, and that they were putting people 160 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:26,600 in mental institutions and locking them up for reporting it, 161 00:11:26,639 --> 00:11:32,559 and that people were coming up missing. So I met 162 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,480 a guy that actually worked at site C six. I 163 00:11:36,519 --> 00:11:40,440 met him through Reddit and he had worked at the 164 00:11:40,519 --> 00:11:44,559 site from nineteen eighty one to eighty four. I think 165 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,919 I gave you our chat transcripts from what I talked 166 00:11:47,919 --> 00:11:51,279 to him about. But yeah, I told him how impressed 167 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,840 I was at the place and if there was any 168 00:11:53,919 --> 00:11:56,679 truth to you know, what I read on the wall there. 169 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,960 He said absolutely, you know, he said that they definitely 170 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,639 track UFOs from there when he worked there. He told 171 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,639 me that he had friends that he was told that 172 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:11,080 committed suicide, that he never saw their bodies, and that 173 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,039 the place had been sued several times over the years. 174 00:12:15,759 --> 00:12:18,360 That the radar itself was so strong, like if birds 175 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,639 fly through it, they would evaporate. I mean just blow 176 00:12:21,639 --> 00:12:29,200 them up. It was that strong. And I was talking 177 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,519 to my mom more about it. She actually drew a 178 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,360 picture of what the thing looked like. And she also 179 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,360 told me before that incident, that night, her and her fiance, 180 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,799 his brother, and his date were going down the road 181 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,879 and her fiance's brother looked out of the back glass 182 00:12:51,159 --> 00:12:52,879 on the car when they were going down the road, 183 00:12:53,279 --> 00:12:58,600 and one had started following them, and she said they 184 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:04,440 were scared to death. And that night they went home 185 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,080 and they all started carpooling to work. That's how bad 186 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,480 it got, and that's how frightened a lot of them were. Well. 187 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,279 A few years later, he come up missing. He's never 188 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,399 been found. I've never seen his name on any missing 189 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,960 persons list, and I thought that was odd because I thought, well, 190 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,120 maybe I could find him somewhere on a missing person's 191 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:30,919 list somewhere, because I had found her fiance's obituary from 192 00:13:30,919 --> 00:13:33,639 two thousand and six and his brother was still listed 193 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:40,080 as missing. I found their sister's obituary she died a 194 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:45,559 few years later, and he was still listed as missing. 195 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,360 From what I understand, he was coming home from work 196 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:51,759 when I never made it. My grandmother also had a 197 00:13:51,799 --> 00:13:56,360 story I never paid it much attention until I recalled 198 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,759 what happened to me and my mother that night, because 199 00:13:58,799 --> 00:14:01,440 my mother, like I said, and I never discussed what 200 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,039 happened to us ever between each other until I brought 201 00:14:05,039 --> 00:14:05,440 it up. 202 00:14:06,159 --> 00:14:09,799 Speaker 1: So, what what what happened to your grandmother? 203 00:14:09,879 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: Did you say something happened to your grandmother? 204 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? She told a story twice that I remember. She 205 00:14:16,799 --> 00:14:19,960 said that she was coming home from work one night 206 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,840 and she was going around a curve and the curve 207 00:14:22,879 --> 00:14:25,480 had like a little hill that separated the curve in 208 00:14:25,559 --> 00:14:29,960 between it, and that this thing had gone in front 209 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,240 of her. It was it was directly over her car 210 00:14:32,399 --> 00:14:34,720 till she got to the curve. Then it flew over her. 211 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:37,519 And she said she could see the glow from it 212 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,759 on the other side of the curve, and she was 213 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,200 terrified that when she rounded the curve it was still 214 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,799 going to be sitting there in the road. And she 215 00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:49,039 said that when she got around the curve that it 216 00:14:49,039 --> 00:14:53,879 it moved out of the way. She said that she 217 00:14:53,879 --> 00:14:56,879 she just pushed the gas as far as she could, 218 00:14:57,159 --> 00:15:00,519 and she just held onto the steering wheel. She said, 219 00:15:00,559 --> 00:15:05,000 she just gave it all the gas she could. She 220 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,039 only talked about it two times that I remember, but 221 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,399 I never paid much attention to it until I recalled 222 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,039 the night that my mother and my sister and I 223 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,720 had our encounter. 224 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: And you said your sister was too young to remember. 225 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, she was. I think she might have been one 226 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,240 or two years. She's two years younger than me and 227 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:35,000 I was around four at the time. But it's something 228 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:37,639 I would never forget. And like I said, my mother, 229 00:15:38,399 --> 00:15:41,360 she it's something that scared the wits out of her. 230 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:44,120 I mean, she just did not like talking about it. 231 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,240 We had a girl from NYU come down about two 232 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,480 years ago and interview us for about three days. I 233 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,399 haven't got to see the documentary yet. She talked to 234 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:04,000 us for three days about what happened, and she left, 235 00:16:04,279 --> 00:16:09,600 and I've tried to contact her. I've sent messages to her. 236 00:16:10,679 --> 00:16:13,799 She was Chinese. She did say that she was going 237 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,159 back to China probably after she graduated. She was a 238 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,600 senior at n y U. I picked her up from 239 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,200 the airport in Huntsville and brought her here and we 240 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,399 spoke with her for about two or three days. But 241 00:16:28,759 --> 00:16:30,840 it's floating around out there somewhere. I've never got a 242 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:31,639 chance to see it. 243 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,559 Speaker 1: Now when you and your mother and your sister all 244 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:41,320 have this encounter. Did you are you or was your 245 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,879 mother where? When you talk to your mother recently, was 246 00:16:43,879 --> 00:16:49,919 she aware of anyone else that witness it besides the uh, 247 00:16:50,039 --> 00:16:50,720 the three of you. 248 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: The night that we saw what we saw. Yes, no, 249 00:16:55,559 --> 00:16:58,720 I know that my uncle lived across the street from us. 250 00:16:59,639 --> 00:17:01,759 I don't really remember what time of the night it 251 00:17:01,879 --> 00:17:06,680 was when it happened, but she did not like talking 252 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,559 about I was lucky that she even you know, mentioned 253 00:17:09,559 --> 00:17:11,920 to me and admitted to it. And I had to 254 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,319 ask her about it before she would even talk about it, 255 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:17,759 because I was thinking the other day, you know, maybe 256 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:20,920 she talked to my grandmother about it or my grandfather, 257 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,400 but she never mentioned it around them, you know, growing up. 258 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:32,400 She said, whatever it was, it had three legs that 259 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:37,119 extended to the ground, and she said that she saw 260 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,720 a hatch on it open, and there was some kind 261 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,759 of like a ramp that came down to the ground. 262 00:17:41,759 --> 00:17:43,480 And she said when she saw that, that's when she 263 00:17:43,559 --> 00:17:48,079 grabbed us and took us inside. I was I was 264 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,680 amazed that she never told me that story, because my mother, 265 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:54,480 if she knows something, she can't keep a secret. 266 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,759 Speaker 1: Now, so there's there's what we call or I don't 267 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:04,079 say we called, but you know, you follow just call 268 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,559 as trace evidence when there's you know, the grassburn that 269 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,039 you're talking about, the circular burn mark, And that would 270 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:14,759 have been a really great thing to investigate if people 271 00:18:14,799 --> 00:18:18,160 were involved. But I'm assuming that she didn't tell anyone 272 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:19,400 or report this to anyone. 273 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: Well, that's when my military police training kicked in. I 274 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,519 asked her, I said, why didn't you call somebody? Why 275 00:18:27,559 --> 00:18:29,920 didn't you tell somebody? She said, she said, they were 276 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,519 locking people up down there that were reporting it. She 277 00:18:32,559 --> 00:18:35,400 said there was a lot of sightings down there, and 278 00:18:35,519 --> 00:18:38,279 they were putting people in mental hospitals that were reporting 279 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,960 that stuff. So I said, well, I can kind of 280 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:43,599 understand then if that's the case. But I know she 281 00:18:43,759 --> 00:18:46,920 told me that it got to the point where her 282 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,640 and my grandmother and my uncles, they what, they would 283 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,319 work at the same places sometimes and they would all 284 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,079 carpool to work because they didn't want to drive out 285 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,440 by their cells. That's how bad it got. 286 00:19:01,759 --> 00:19:06,799 Speaker 3: Wow, amazing, So I guess you'd call this a flap, 287 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:12,200 And can you tell me approximately what years this was happening? 288 00:19:14,519 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: This was we've kind of went back and forth on 289 00:19:17,759 --> 00:19:21,640 the year. It was nineteen seventy seven or seventy eight. 290 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,480 I think it was probably around the seventies, end of 291 00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:28,799 seventy seven, but I remember it being warm that night, 292 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:34,079 and I remember the guys in the trailer park working 293 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,480 on a car talking about the Lennard Skinner crash. 294 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,559 Speaker 1: Oh was is that bizarre? You're saying that because I 295 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,400 just talked about that yesterday. Oh really, isn't that crazy? 296 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,279 Speaker 3: Yeah? 297 00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: And I have a witness that's listening live right now, 298 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,359 that'll yeah, that's bizarre. I just talked about the crash yesterday. 299 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: But I remember that discussion for like a time reference, 300 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,960 you know. But that night, I remember I was very 301 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,720 so if it was October, I know there's sometimes you know, 302 00:20:03,799 --> 00:20:09,599 October can be warm, but I don't know exactly if 303 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,319 it was the end of seventy seven, first of seventy eight, 304 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:13,400 somewhere running there. 305 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it sounds like what they call a flap, 306 00:20:17,039 --> 00:20:19,160 you know, I mean, like all of a sudden, there's 307 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,680 a whole bunch of sightings in one area. There's been 308 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:26,640 many areas in this country alone where these flaps occur, 309 00:20:27,519 --> 00:20:31,880 and that's always puzzled me, Like, you know, the thought 310 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,839 comes to my mind. If something traveled as far as 311 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,160 it did to get here, why is it staying in 312 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,759 one area? You know, it's such a bizarre situation in 313 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:42,400 my opinion. 314 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,079 Speaker 2: Well, I hadn't thought anything about like UFOs or anything 315 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,880 like that until back in I think nineteen ninety one, 316 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,880 we had cattle mutilations close to here where I live. 317 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,960 We had national news here if you've ever heard the 318 00:20:59,319 --> 00:21:03,319 story about the five UFO. I live about twelve miles 319 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:08,400 away from five, Alabama, and back here back around nineteen 320 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,519 ninety one, we had cattle mutilations and really had a 321 00:21:12,559 --> 00:21:17,240 lot of UFO side of Yes, CNN came here, a 322 00:21:17,279 --> 00:21:21,240 lot of different news organizations that were around at that 323 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:26,559 time came here. And there's some interviews that you can 324 00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:30,160 see on YouTube, you know, with farmers that you know, 325 00:21:30,279 --> 00:21:34,160 said these things came over their farms and some of 326 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,400 them got guns to shoot at them. Bill Hicks, the comedian, 327 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,880 Oh yeah, hey, it makes a joke about it. He's 328 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,480 got a funny take on the five UFO. It's pretty funny. 329 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:48,240 If you ever get a chance to watch his little 330 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,799 bit about the five UFO. 331 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was he was crazy that guy died young, 332 00:21:54,519 --> 00:21:58,119 very young, of cancer. But what a fun comedian he was. 333 00:21:58,519 --> 00:22:03,640 So there is a question here for you. The person 334 00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:07,400 changed something in it. Let me just see what it is, 335 00:22:08,559 --> 00:22:12,319 space track radar. Are you familiar with space track radar? 336 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,400 Is that no suit, any of the U t uct, 337 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,119 any of that. 338 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 3: So you didn't actually work with this stuff. But you 339 00:22:19,559 --> 00:22:21,200 went into that building, is that right? 340 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,079 Speaker 2: Right? I went inside there, and after I read their 341 00:22:25,079 --> 00:22:27,039 mission statement on the wall, I didn't want to take 342 00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:29,039 another step, and the hair on the back of my neck, 343 00:22:30,079 --> 00:22:32,920 you know, just stood up. And you know, I'd already 344 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,279 been overseas at that point, and it took a lot 345 00:22:36,319 --> 00:22:40,359 to spook me. And I had not thought about the 346 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,480 UFO experience from when I was a kid at all 347 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,759 until I went into that building, and something deep inside 348 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,839 inside of me told me to get out. And I 349 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,920 got goosebumps when I read it, and I looked over 350 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:02,000 at the Security forces guy at the podium there. When 351 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,359 I looked over at him, and he just gave me 352 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,720 a big smile, and I walked back out to the 353 00:23:08,759 --> 00:23:10,480 truck that we were in. We were in like a 354 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,279 pickup truck when we went up there, and I had to, 355 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,440 you know, collect myself for a minute, because I just 356 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,920 had this flashback of when I was a kid and 357 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,200 what I saw in the field that night, and I 358 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,200 hadn't recalled those things for you know, a very very 359 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,079 long time. And it was just a few years ago 360 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,880 that I finally got, you know, the nerve to talk 361 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,079 to my mother about it, because I kept, you know, 362 00:23:39,759 --> 00:23:43,039 having these visions of seeing this, you know, it looked 363 00:23:43,079 --> 00:23:47,000 like a fireball out in the field, and uh, just 364 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:54,680 her because we had never discussed it, and I always thought, well, 365 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,799 you know, if it was real, you know, maybe she 366 00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:59,559 would have talked to me about it all this time. 367 00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:01,759 And when I brought it up, she about jumped out 368 00:24:01,799 --> 00:24:04,160 of her skin. She was in a chair, and I 369 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,839 swear she jumped about two or three feet up in 370 00:24:06,839 --> 00:24:11,799 the air when I mentioned it to her and we 371 00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:16,079 discussed it, and I told her, I said, you know why, 372 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,079 you know, have you not mentioned it to me all 373 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,720 these years? And she said it scared her to death. 374 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: There's someone in chat that's claiming that they worked at 375 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:32,720 Sight C six, But so I can't take that at 376 00:24:32,759 --> 00:24:36,759 face value because I don't know this person. But can 377 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:40,920 you tell us what the capabilities of the radar as 378 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,200 far as you know, you said it was very very powerful, 379 00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:48,279 but like how far out it can detect things, and 380 00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:51,359 how you know, what type of accuracy and all that. 381 00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:55,319 Speaker 2: Right, it can detect objects twenty two thousand nautical miles 382 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,400 into space, the size of a grapefruit, and it can 383 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,960 track you know, thousands of objects at one time, and 384 00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:09,480 you can actually google sat C six and it can 385 00:25:09,599 --> 00:25:12,319 verify everything that I'm telling you you know about the 386 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,319 site itself, which I know a lot of people that 387 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,960 work there would probably not be privy to tell you 388 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,960 that they can do that. But if they have that capability, 389 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,359 you know, everything that we've been seeing, like the drones 390 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:39,079 and all that stuff, they definitely have the capabilities to 391 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,519 see all this stuff. 392 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: So now would you say they can play I'm wondering 393 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,480 what type of sweep this thing would make as far 394 00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:51,319 as you know, you're saying up to twenty two thousand 395 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,640 nautical miles, but what patch of the sky. 396 00:25:55,759 --> 00:25:57,839 Speaker 3: I'm wondering how much could that cover? 397 00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: Know? From what I understand, it acts like a space fence. 398 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,759 I don't know the range, but it extends I think 399 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:14,480 to the Quadullen atolls out in the Pacific Ocean. Now, 400 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,039 if these things are coming out of the ocean, like 401 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,640 what they've been saying, you know, lately, they would have 402 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,319 the ability to see it, especially being down there in 403 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,119 the Gulf of America as it's called now, they would 404 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,759 definitely have the capabilities to do it. Now. I've kind 405 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:38,720 of been passively threatened a few times on Reddit. I 406 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,200 don't do a lot of social media. The only ones 407 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:44,119 I really do is read it because I enjoy reading. 408 00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:53,400 But someone had said something about me being disabled and 409 00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:58,720 having benefits taken from me and all this kind of stuff. 410 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,440 And I had never mentioned to anybody that I was 411 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,519 even you know, had disabilities like that. But it wasn't 412 00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:13,680 anything like what some people would say would be like 413 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,519 attributed to like PTSD or anything a lot of minds 414 00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:25,920 like physical disabilities. But I think that it's like I remember, 415 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,200 his name is Burchett, timber Chet. When you get over 416 00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:34,319 the target, that's when they start shooting at you. And typically, 417 00:27:34,599 --> 00:27:39,559 like when I post something on Reddit lately, anything that 418 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,839 has to do with egg Lund, usually they will mute 419 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,240 up votes where you can't upvote on it. One of 420 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:54,000 the things that I had was it had twenty thousand views, 421 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,400 but zero up votes, and I thought that was kind 422 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,640 of odd that you have twenty thousand views and no 423 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,319 upvotes on it whatsoever, and read it will not even 424 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,200 let me report the issue, like when I go to 425 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,319 submit like a complaint, it won't let me file a 426 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,119 complaint about it. It's really really strange. 427 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,079 Speaker 3: Do you know whoops? Sorry? 428 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: Do you understand what this is saying up on the screen. 429 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,200 I don't understand what that is? 430 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,319 Speaker 2: Do you quadulene Egglin can track out to Yes, yes 431 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:34,839 it can. It extends from Egglin all the way to 432 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,599 the quaduline atos from what I understand, I think if 433 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,759 you find it online it'll it'll tell you the same thing. 434 00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:43,839 Speaker 3: Interesting. 435 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: So the one question I have I would think that 436 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,119 you know, you mentioned that when you walked into uh, 437 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:56,920 that building that you know, non distinct building like a 438 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,920 radio station or whatever, and they had their mission statement 439 00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:01,640 up on the wall. 440 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: That's kind of a bold thing. Do you think that was? 441 00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:09,759 Speaker 1: I mean, it almost seems like it's kind of like 442 00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:11,480 a mockery in any type of way. I mean for 443 00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:15,279 them to say something like that. And also it seems 444 00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:18,000 to me that someone would have to have a really good, 445 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,160 high level of level of clearance before they'd walk in 446 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,079 to a place like that. 447 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: Well, being in PS all, the military police have to 448 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,720 have a secret security clearance because you have to be 449 00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:32,279 able to go to any place on a military base. 450 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,039 The site itself is restricted. If I didn't have a clearance, 451 00:29:38,039 --> 00:29:40,839 I couldn't go in there. Now, when it comes to 452 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,640 skiffs and things like that, if they have a place 453 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,240 in there that's for top secret information that they share 454 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,960 amongst one another, you know, I couldn't go into a 455 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,319 place like that. But the building itself I was able 456 00:29:54,319 --> 00:30:00,319 to go in with no problem at all. It's it's 457 00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:04,799 a restricted site. Actually it's a it's located about twelve 458 00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:08,519 to fifteen miles inside the base. And like I was 459 00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:11,960 saying earlier, it's not underground, it's above ground. It's actually 460 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,279 like on a little hill. It looks like an old 461 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,319 radio station when you see it. 462 00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: Someone is the person I think it's the same person 463 00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:27,640 that said that they worked there is saying that it's 464 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,079 twenty five hundred nautical miles not twenty five thousand. Is 465 00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:33,440 that a possibility that you mix that up? 466 00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:38,519 Speaker 2: From what I read, it's twenty two thousand, But unless 467 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:43,039 they updated it recently, it's actually on Wikipedia. You can 468 00:30:43,079 --> 00:30:47,000 actually go to Wikipedia and type inside C six and 469 00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:49,279 it'll tell you all that you want to know about 470 00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:55,079 the radar itself, other than they don't track UFOs. They 471 00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,759 won't admit to that, but other things on there, like 472 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,319 the size of the objects that they can track. It's 473 00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:05,039 all in there. 474 00:31:05,839 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 3: And did that site SEE six burn down at one time? 475 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,079 Are you aware of that? 476 00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:15,279 Speaker 2: Yes? I think back in the sixties it burned down. 477 00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:20,039 Speaker 1: Which that's probably when they refitted it with all the 478 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,400 higher end equipment. 479 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,599 Speaker 3: Course they're always upgrading. 480 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: And I also think that artificial intelligence is going to 481 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,160 make everything change as far as what we're doing. 482 00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:34,599 Speaker 2: See right now, the Space Force took it over. It 483 00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:37,920 was Air Force when I was there in two thousand 484 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:43,000 and nine, and now it's turned over to the Space Force. 485 00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:45,440 The Space Force operates that facility. Now. 486 00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:51,799 Speaker 1: Wow, yep, So have you been paying you know, it 487 00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:55,279 sounds like you've been paying some attention to what's going 488 00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:58,640 on in the UFO community, like you're familiar with the 489 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,319 hearings and all that birch At you mentioned. 490 00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't watched anything over the last few months. 491 00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:09,240 I think a lot of things that have been said 492 00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:15,000 to me a little outrageous, but I I do try 493 00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:18,359 to listen to the ones I think to me or 494 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,519 telling the truth. I still follow Grush and he's he's 495 00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:26,880 one that I pay attention to because, you know, he 496 00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,200 came out and said what he said, and they made 497 00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:32,079 sure to get him out of the way. They don't 498 00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:36,160 want him talking to nobody right now, and that's interesting 499 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:36,400 to me. 500 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:38,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 501 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a there's a lawsuit situation out there, and 502 00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:45,160 that's why we're not really hearing from him these days. 503 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,839 I don't know how any I've probably been told not 504 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,400 to do any public speaking at this point, but we 505 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,160 may hear from him at some point. I did get 506 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,640 the chance to meet him when I was I was 507 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,319 at the hearing. It's at both hearings that they had, 508 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,640 and I feel they're going to be having some some 509 00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:03,880 coming up too. 510 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,079 Speaker 2: You know. What's interesting to me was that David Grush 511 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,759 came forward over in Huntsville, Alabama, and I live pretty 512 00:33:11,759 --> 00:33:18,799 close to Huntsville. There was a lady, she was a scientist. 513 00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:23,559 She was working on some kind of propulsion system over there, 514 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:31,599 and she died. Apparently they said she died by suicide, 515 00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:35,720 is what the official thing was, and she made a 516 00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:40,160 series of videos. Her name was Amy Escridge, and she 517 00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:45,359 had made some videos before she died that somebody was 518 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,559 after her. Now, what I thought was interesting was David 519 00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:56,200 Grush came forward after she died, and he came forward 520 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:04,319 in Huntsville, and that's where she worked, and he was scared. 521 00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:08,440 From what I saw when he came forward to George 522 00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:14,599 Napp and Jeremy Corbel, he stumbled upon something that scared 523 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:19,880 him enough to come forward and talk. And I've always 524 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,239 thought that her death could be linked to something that 525 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,320 he knew, and that's probably one of the reasons I 526 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,320 felt like he came forward. There was another scientist over 527 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:36,000 there and she came up missing for a few years, 528 00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:38,440 but later on they found her and they found out 529 00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:43,440 she was working for the CIA or something. I think 530 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,000 she was a Chinese national or something, but nobody could 531 00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:52,519 find her for a few years. And I can't remember 532 00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:57,920 her name, but she was a scientist over there in Huntsville, 533 00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:03,480 and somebody was looking for her and they contacted her 534 00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:07,800 son and he told them what she had been doing. 535 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,719 And as soon as she started working for the CIA, 536 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,679 she got really really strange, and she was not like 537 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,039 the same person. 538 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 3: But it's the X files syndrome. 539 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it to me when I found out that 540 00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:29,800 Grush came forward from Huntsville, that told me a lot. 541 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,639 Speaker 1: Right now, there there was an incident in twenty twenty 542 00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:38,119 three at Eglin Air Force Face. 543 00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,159 Speaker 3: Are you familiar with that? Did you look into that 544 00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:40,519 at all? 545 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: No, sir, Yeah, I think there was a plane crash 546 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,079 or something. I don't know. 547 00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: Well, I just looked online. Someone posted that in the 548 00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:54,719 chat and there is a report that was done through 549 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,840 a ARO through that office. So they wrote a report 550 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,760 on and anyone can find that online if google that. 551 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,880 But I just wondered if you had heard about that. 552 00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 2: No. But I've talked to a lot of people that 553 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,519 live around Egglin and they always tell me they say 554 00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:15,840 some interesting things around Egglin's. 555 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,679 Speaker 1: It's strange, you know. I mean some of them, I 556 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,639 guess could be experimental craft. I mean, I'm not sure 557 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,079 if that would be something like that would be in 558 00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:29,480 a hangar and and tested out that at that Air 559 00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:32,480 Force base in particular. But you know, we talked quickly 560 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:37,679 offline before we started about the Paul Benowitz case and 561 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,679 that situation in New Mexico, and you know, he was 562 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,840 seeing weird things and filming them, and you know, they 563 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,920 basically drove them crazy. And if you're new to this subject, 564 00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:52,400 if you just look up the Paul Benowitz I'm not 565 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,480 going to try to spell that, but anyway, if you 566 00:36:55,519 --> 00:36:59,159 look up his case, it's fascinating. It's very sad, you know. 567 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,920 And there's still Rick Dody was involved in that. He's 568 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,400 out there. I'm going to keep my mouth shut on 569 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,320 what I think of him. 570 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 2: Well, another interesting thing that happened at Eglin. One day 571 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,199 I was eating lunch with one of the security force 572 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,960 guys that I was working with one of the days 573 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,679 I was out and we were by this runway with 574 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,039 a huge hangar at the end of it, and I 575 00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:33,159 kept seeing these planes take off without markings. They were 576 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,239 white jet planes. And I asked him, I said, were 577 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,920 these white planes taking off with no tail number and 578 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,719 no insignia, nothing on them? And he said that they 579 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,360 called them secret squirrel planes? And I said, who who's 580 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,280 in them? You know? He said, well, no, that's CIA. 581 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,440 They do different things down here and he said that's 582 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,280 all we know. You know, they have different projects that 583 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,119 go on down there there. And uh, I said, wow, 584 00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:06,280 I've never seen anything like that before. I've heard of 585 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,000 the Janet flights that go in and out of the 586 00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:16,880 airport from Las Vegas, but they were they looked a 587 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,679 little different. They were they were bigger planes out in 588 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,239 Las Vegas that I saw from the footage that I've seen, 589 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,360 and uh, these planes were just totally wide. 590 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 3: Wow. Wow. Uh. 591 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,119 Speaker 1: I'm going to see if we uh, Bill, if you're listening, 592 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,159 I'm going to see if we can uh, if you 593 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,960 have the phones, if you can fire them up. 594 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I know Chanelle, my regular. 595 00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: UH radio producer at kg r A, she's out tonight, 596 00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:45,239 and I'm just going to find out if we have 597 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,119 phones because uh, I wouldn't mind getting the person in 598 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:56,360 on a call that keeps discussing about the same exact 599 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,760 you know, he says he worked where you did. 600 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,079 Speaker 3: So if I can and if we can get them on, 601 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,800 I'm just not sure. So, Bill, hopefully you're listening, and. 602 00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 1: If you are, please let me know in the private 603 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:18,039 chat if we have phones available tonight. So, you know, 604 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:22,519 when someone has an experience when they're really young, you know, sometimes. 605 00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 3: It might feel like a dream or you know, not 606 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,920 feel real. I don't know. 607 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,039 Speaker 1: Exactly how old you were. I can't remember what you said, 608 00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:29,920 but I think that's. 609 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 2: Around that's around probably three four years old. I was 610 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,119 probably more about four years old when it happened. 611 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very young. 612 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:44,079 Speaker 1: So but it's great that you your mother actually confirmed 613 00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:46,920 that for you. I mean, did you kind of like 614 00:39:48,039 --> 00:39:49,840 put that away in your head and not even think 615 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,679 about it and then until this all happened at the airbase. 616 00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:57,639 Speaker 2: Right, I mean I just thought, no, surely, you know, 617 00:39:57,679 --> 00:40:03,639 I didn't see that. And when I went to there's 618 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,599 very few times I've ever felt like the hair on 619 00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:10,719 the back of my neck stand up. And as soon 620 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,320 as I got in that building and I read that 621 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:18,639 on their wall there, I got just terrified inside. I 622 00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:21,800 mean I got I felt like I did the night 623 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,760 that I saw that. It just it stopped me in 624 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,039 my tracks where I just I couldn't move and I 625 00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:32,599 couldn't really believe what I was reading. And I didn't 626 00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:35,440 talk to anybody in my unit about it when I 627 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,480 went back, and it just took me a while to 628 00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:48,320 process what I was seeing, really, and I when I 629 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,960 think about it now, you know, it's just you know, 630 00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:54,840 questions more than anything, And it made me want to 631 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,920 get to the bottom of what I saw. So I 632 00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:02,960 ended up meeting again that actually worked at the site 633 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,800 for three years, and he was telling me. He gave 634 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,159 me the name of a guy that was there that died. 635 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,239 They told him that the guy committed suicide, but he 636 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:18,039 said there was never a funeral, you know, nobody and 637 00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:20,960 he had. He said that one night they brought something 638 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,760 to the site, and he said they never brought anything 639 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,800 up there, but one night they brought something on a 640 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,159 flatbed truck that was covered, and he said he didn't 641 00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:31,920 get to see what it was. But he named off 642 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,239 companies I'd never heard of that he had worked for. 643 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,920 It was the first time i'd ever heard EG and 644 00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:41,320 G I think was one of them, and which I'd 645 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,519 never heard of any of these places that he had 646 00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:52,360 worked for. But I really got my attention when he 647 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,920 had mentioned that they did monitor UFOs and he had 648 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:03,159 friends after he left. When they had the the sightings 649 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,920 in I think it was nineteen ninety four down there. 650 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,920 I'm trying to remember what part of Florida it was, 651 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,800 but they had a name for it. It was a 652 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,159 U It was a UFO flap that happened down there, 653 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:27,199 not Homestead I'm trying to remember, but he said that 654 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,840 he had friends that were monitoring the ones that they 655 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,440 were seeing then in the nineties, when people were setting 656 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,800 up cameras out there on the beach recording those things. 657 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,880 He said it was really interesting. I tried to get 658 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,320 him to talk to someone about what we spoke about, 659 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,920 and he did try once, but he said they never 660 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,599 you know, said anything back to him when he sent 661 00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:59,880 them an email. And I've tried to get him to 662 00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:04,719 talk about it because I think he's at an age 663 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,000 where he just felt like he really didn't care at 664 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,119 that point to talk about it, and I think he 665 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,519 probably doesn't know now that he's even being talked about. 666 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:23,159 But it meant a lot to me because I had been, 667 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,440 you know, trying to find something about that place and 668 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,880 what I saw, and when I put two and two together, 669 00:43:32,039 --> 00:43:36,639 like when I talked to Ross's Coulthart, you know, he 670 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,440 was more concerned about just the UFO nuts and bolts, 671 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,400 crafts and things like that. But you know, it's not 672 00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:48,639 that easy to tell one thing and not tell the other, 673 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,599 because had I not had the experience when I was 674 00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:53,880 a kid, I probably would have thought nothing about what 675 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,400 I read when I went into that place, I'd probably 676 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,920 just you know, looked at it and said, oh, that's 677 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,719 cool and walked out because I know, I know earlier 678 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,280 you had mentioned about, you know, mission statements and how 679 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,519 a lot of units goop around and put stuff up 680 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,679 like that. But you know, not everybody can see the 681 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,199 mission statements there. You have to have at least a 682 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,119 secret clearance to go inside the place. You know, the 683 00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:21,280 public can't go in there. You have to have business 684 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,719 to be there in the first place. 685 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,559 Speaker 3: That makes sense. So I think what I would like 686 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,920 to do is this gentleman you know. 687 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:35,119 Speaker 1: Claims he worked there, Pete, And I'm going to give 688 00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:38,000 out my email address I'll connect you to because I think, 689 00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:43,639 you know, if you'd like, so my email address, Pete, 690 00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:46,000 I don't mind saying it for a beleagu I get 691 00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:50,440 a bunch of junk mail anyway, it's Martinett PODCASTUFO dot com. 692 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,239 Just get in touch with me and we'll we'll connect 693 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,440 you two together. So he's basically saying that these space 694 00:44:56,559 --> 00:45:02,840 objects that are uncorrelated there uncorrelated with a catalog, and 695 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,079 he's claiming he worked there until nineteen eighty nine. But 696 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,440 I think it's fascinating and you know, I mean, if 697 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,360 they have this technology, it just seems I've asked this 698 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,440 question many times with people on the guests I have 699 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,000 on the show. Isn't there anything that would be you know, 700 00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:24,079 detecting these things coming in from. 701 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 2: Exactly there and the government's not going to tell you 702 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,480 they see I mean, you know, we've been hoping that, 703 00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:33,239 you know, there'd be some kind of new legislation where 704 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,079 they would you know, be more forthcoming and tell us things. 705 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,719 And you know they're not going to admit that they 706 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,840 you know, can do that. But when you know what 707 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,039 kind of capabilities they do have there, you know they 708 00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:51,639 can do it if they want to admit to it. 709 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 1: That's another thing, right, Yeah, And what do you think 710 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,079 about since you've been paying attention to this, do you 711 00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:02,760 feel like, uh, there's a lot more transparency or do 712 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,480 you think it's status quo. 713 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 2: I think it's more status quo, And I think they're 714 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,880 throwing people in there to muddy the waters, basically, to 715 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,360 make people lose interest. Some of the stories that I've 716 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,840 heard lately are just outrageous. 717 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:19,199 Speaker 3: Really. 718 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,599 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I had when I saw what 719 00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:28,320 I saw when I was a kid, I froze. You know, 720 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,639 I didn't. I didn't get a feeling of heavenly bodies 721 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,719 or you know, just like a you know, some heavenly 722 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,559 experience or anything. I was I was scared of it 723 00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:46,400 from what I saw. I know people have different experiences 724 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,800 with them. That wasn't my experience. You know, maybe if 725 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,039 i'd have been a little bit older, I would have 726 00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:55,320 looked at it different. But my mother was older and 727 00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:02,679 it scared her too, So yeah, I don't really, I 728 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:07,119 don't really know that everyone has the same experience. 729 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,760 Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent, you know, and I've heard 730 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,239 all different takes on, you know, when someone you know, 731 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,480 I had a personal UFO experience in two thousand and seven, and. 732 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:19,599 Speaker 3: I was just. 733 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 1: I was not scared, but I was bewildered. Like I 734 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,079 just couldn't understand what I was seeing. It didn't fit 735 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,880 in my normal, you know world to see something that 736 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:37,599 I was seeing. So but I understand, you know, there's 737 00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:41,239 all kinds of weird ways people react to these things. 738 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,119 Sometimes they'll never talk about it at all, or you know, 739 00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:48,639 I have a friend, I'm in the antiques world and 740 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,840 antiques and art and all that, and I have a 741 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,400 friend that contacted me because he saw that I did 742 00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:55,880 a show in UFOs and he told me his story. 743 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,920 He was walking in Ipswich, Massachusetts, I think it was, 744 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,519 and this big glowing object came right down by him 745 00:48:04,559 --> 00:48:06,960 and two other kids, you know, and it was like 746 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,039 they were every time they'd look up and it was 747 00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:10,519 still there, and they were scared to death. 748 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 3: He can't get either one of them to talk about it. 749 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 1: And you hear a lot of stories like that because 750 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,320 it affects people all people differently. 751 00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 2: If I hadn't brought it up to my mother, she 752 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:25,760 would have never mentioned it to me. I think nowadays 753 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,159 people are more aware of it. I know there is 754 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,559 a there is a sight on YouTube called Eyes on Cinema. 755 00:48:33,559 --> 00:48:36,559 Speaker 3: If you've ever watch, I'm in touch with the person there. 756 00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:40,039 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, they have some of the best interviews 757 00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:43,639 out there. And if you look at some of the 758 00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:48,599 testimonies by people that have seen things, a lot of 759 00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:51,800 them are very similar, you know. And this was before 760 00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:56,000 like mainstream media now started covering some of it. 761 00:48:56,519 --> 00:48:56,679 Speaker 3: Now. 762 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 1: When the when the person came to interview you and 763 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,800 your mother and was there for three days, I believe 764 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,480 you said, did you learn more about it at that 765 00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:09,320 time by hearing you know, when your mother was questioned, 766 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,159 did you learn more? 767 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I learned what it looked like because she 768 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:20,159 had never drawn a picture of it before, and the 769 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,679 girl that was interviewing us, she wanted to know what 770 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:28,000 it looked like. And my mother, you know, drew like 771 00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:33,280 one of the classic saucer shaped things. It was a 772 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,519 saucer shape, but it had legs that extended to the ground, 773 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:44,599 and then she drew the ramp that came out of it. Now, 774 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,760 the next day when we went out to the field, 775 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,239 I know that when when you're a kid, a lot 776 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,760 of times things seem a lot bigger to you. But 777 00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,400 just guessing, I would say the circle that that thing 778 00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:08,280 left was probably twenty or thirty feet, like round circumference. 779 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,440 So I've often wondered if I went back there now, 780 00:50:14,119 --> 00:50:17,239 if you could still get some kind of readings from 781 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,679 where it was at, because it was I think it 782 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,079 had moved, like from where I saw it to where 783 00:50:24,039 --> 00:50:27,679 my mother saw it, because I saw it off to 784 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,559 my right that night, and the next day when we 785 00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:34,280 went out to the field, it was more directly in 786 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,519 front of the road that went through the trailer park, 787 00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:42,599 and I thought to myself. Well, I guess it moved 788 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,320 because it was off to my right from what I remember, 789 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,800 because I caught it out the corner of my eye, 790 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,639 and then when I looked directly at it, I just 791 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,239 fro solid. I mean, I just couldn't move. Had my 792 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,719 mother not been calling my name behind me, I would 793 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,320 have just sat there and looked at it and never 794 00:51:01,639 --> 00:51:02,440 never budged. 795 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, so we are just about ready 796 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,119 to wrap it up right now, but I want to 797 00:51:11,199 --> 00:51:16,599 let everyone know that Roger Stankovic and Irene Previn from Australia, 798 00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:18,800 they're going to be on next week's show same time. 799 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,119 Speaker 3: So are you. 800 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,559 Speaker 1: Comfortable with me sharing your information for someone like this 801 00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:29,800 person that claims he was you know? Of course we 802 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,239 could talk about this off here, but I do. I 803 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,559 do appreciate very much you being on the show tonight. 804 00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:41,400 And I guess one last question. Has this affected you 805 00:51:41,679 --> 00:51:46,360 in this whole experience in like a negative way or 806 00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:48,880 you saying that the incident itself did, but I mean 807 00:51:49,199 --> 00:51:50,960 in general now when you look back on. 808 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,159 Speaker 3: It, or are you kind of glad that it happened? 809 00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:58,679 Speaker 2: Well, now that I've had time to, you know, think 810 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,440 about it for the last few years, it became like 811 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,559 an obsession. I've kind of learned to let it go 812 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,440 a little bit over the last few months, especially when 813 00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:14,960 a lot of people who have been coming out to 814 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,760 me that to me, I just don't believe. Frankly, I 815 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:22,119 just don't believe what they're saying. And it's something that 816 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,679 I really don't think about until I talk about it. 817 00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:28,400 When I did the interview for News Nation, you know, 818 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,639 I felt like I was being cross examined, you know, 819 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,800 by Ross, and I just I wish that he would 820 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:40,480 have let me talk more about the one thing, because 821 00:52:41,159 --> 00:52:44,719 when I talked about the incident I had when I 822 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,880 was a kid versus you know, what I saw when 823 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,039 I was in the military, I really couldn't tell one 824 00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:56,400 story without the other because I saw that. And if 825 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,880 if I hadn't saw what I saw when I was 826 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,360 younger when I went into that place, I would have 827 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:04,800 never put two and two together. 828 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, thank you so much. Been a real pleasure. 829 00:53:09,159 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 2: Thanks Martin, and I appreciate you having me. 830 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,760 Speaker 1: You bet all right, everyone, We'll see you next week, 831 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:41,480 and remember to keep your eyes to the sky.