WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:03.200 Can you guys please go and take this poll Ingrid 2 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:05.280 has put a poll in the show notes here and 3 00:00:05.320 --> 00:00:07.320 I believe it came out in the newsletter as well. 4 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:09.359 But it's a poll we're trying to figure out about 5 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:12.000 video options and whatnot. So if you can just do 6 00:00:12.119 --> 00:00:14.199 me a favor and click the link to the poll 7 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:17.160 in the show notes, we would appreciate it. Thank you, 8 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:34.640 and enjoy the episode. Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. 9 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:37.719 It's Thursday. It's pop and Bravo Thursday. I'm going to 10 00:00:37.799 --> 00:00:42.600 talk about some pop culture but mostly Bravo with my guest, 11 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:47.960 a true expert on all things Bravo and therapy. It's 12 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:51.000 Melissa Reischer, bist therapist. I always want to go to 13 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:53.000 the bish therapist. 14 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:57.320 Yeah, it's a mouthful. Yes, you're a bish therapist here 15 00:00:57.359 --> 00:00:59.840 I am. Thank you, Mary Payn. I'm so happy to 16 00:00:59.880 --> 00:01:00.399 be back. 17 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:03.159 Because I wanted to say you're bitch. 18 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:08.480 But yeah, well, because you had miss Amy Phillips on the. 19 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:10.480 Pod recently, I did. I did. 20 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:14.319 Yes, it was such a great episode, and that is 21 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:15.239 what my name was. 22 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:16.480 Your bitch therapist. 23 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:20.239 But you know, having a curse in your in your 24 00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:22.560 brand and your handle is frowned upon. 25 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:27.799 So bitch came bisch And here she is Kimberly. 26 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:29.480 And Katie on a Date with Dateline. They do not 27 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:32.439 curse on their podcast. Kimberly curses up a storm on here, 28 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:35.599 but on Date with Dateline they do not curse. Is 29 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:38.519 totally clean, so they say, bisc. 30 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:42.000 Oh, bisk, that's good. 31 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:44.959 Yeah, I could have been your bisk therapist. People might 32 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:48.359 have thought that I was like a soup kindosseur. 33 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:51.159 But yes, I think that's what they would have thought, 34 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:56.840 and I wanted. This is a plug for Amy Poehler's podcast. 35 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:01.719 You guys know, my listeners know that I am obsessed 36 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:04.359 with and have been from day one a Billie Eilish 37 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:10.360 stand and Billie Eilish was on Amy Peller's podcast Good 38 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:13.639 Hang and just made me so happy. 39 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:17.199 It's just so happy. What do you let me ask 40 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:19.479 for your pain? What do you? I love Billie Eilish too, 41 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:22.120 but what is it about her? Like? What draws you 42 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:23.159 to her? Do you even know? 43 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:25.400 I mean, I think she's so talented and beautiful and 44 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:28.000 a wonderful person, but I don't know her, but she 45 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:29.080 seems great. 46 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:34.360 I think I was first drawn to which she was 47 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:36.639 so young, and my daughter was like, let me play 48 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:38.000 this for you, and I was like, first of all, 49 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:42.319 green hair gross, still still think that I didn't like 50 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:44.280 when she had just like the green on the whatever 51 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:49.840 you know you're young. I was so drawn to her 52 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:53.000 voice and how young she was, and like how much 53 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:56.199 she had created being so young, And you could say 54 00:02:56.199 --> 00:03:00.840 the same about lots of artists, right, I think that's 55 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:03.759 what I was so drawn to. And then when you 56 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:08.840 really get into her lyrics and you're like wow. And 57 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:11.199 then I watched the Apple documentary that was on when 58 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:13.800 they were doing Going from First Album to Second Album, 59 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:18.560 where they like won all the Emmys. I was just 60 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:22.199 blown away by how talented she and her brother were 61 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:24.719 and so I don't know, I just love her. I 62 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:27.199 just love Billie Eilish. My daughter and I went and 63 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:32.599 saw her in Cleave. Yeah, we went to Cleveland, Ohio 64 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:34.800 because like we couldn't get tickets. We could not get 65 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:38.840 tickets in like New York, DC, Philly, Pittsburgh, Son. We 66 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:40.599 went to Cleveland, Ohio. 67 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:45.199 Listen, we my husband and I I'm from Chicago, Illinois 68 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:47.800 born and raised, and so every year we drive back 69 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:51.840 and when we drive through Ohio, I just chuckle, because yeah, 70 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:56.479 it's I saw something on social media about how some 71 00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:59.240 of the worst celebrities have come out of Ohio. 72 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:03.199 You got you got Lebron James. 73 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:07.039 Oh no, and there's some great ones too, for sure, 74 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:09.319 but of course it was I just thought that was 75 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:09.919 so funny. 76 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:13.439 But listen, have you ever been to the Rock and 77 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:14.840 Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland? 78 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:15.680 No? 79 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:17.079 But oh good, I would. 80 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:19.319 I wanted to do that. We went to the zoo. 81 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:20.639 We went to the Cleveland Zoo. 82 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:22.079 Oh that's nice too. 83 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:25.680 Yeah, and that was pretty great. They had you know, 84 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:27.959 the kind of thing where you go inside and then 85 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:31.319 you can see like all the hippos swimming underwater, and 86 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:36.199 they had kangaroos and that was interesting. 87 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:39.519 Don't sleep don't sleep on Cleveland people there, but you can. 88 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:42.759 Walk around inside with the kangaroos like they were just 89 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:44.920 amongst you, and you were like, stay on the path. 90 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:46.920 But yeah, yeah. 91 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:48.120 It's amazing. I love that. 92 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:50.279 We'll have to do that when we drive to Chicago 93 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:51.480 this this fall. 94 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:54.319 It is a great zoo. It is a great zoo. 95 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:54.800 Uh. 96 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:57.360 And my kids and my husband went to the Rock 97 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:00.000 and Roll Hall of Fame when they went one time. 98 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:04.839 I'm to Cleveland basketball game. Because my son was and 99 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:08.600 still is at age twenty, always a huge Lebron fan. 100 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:12.319 My daughter for Christmas this year gave him a big, 101 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:15.240 huge blanket with Lebron's face all over it. 102 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:17.600 Oh that's really sweet. 103 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:20.040 I love that and I highly recommend Rock and Roll 104 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:21.959 Hall of Fame. When we went, we went twice, it 105 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:22.560 was Tom. 106 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:24.360 They featured Tom Petty. 107 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:28.560 And yeah, that was really I'm here's the thing. I 108 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.439 am a huge music junkie. I am the type of 109 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:35.920 person who certain music, like people like Billie Eilish, people 110 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:37.240 with really beautiful voices. 111 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:39.639 I will literally get goosebumps. 112 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:43.160 Because like I feel it in my soul, and so 113 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:44.959 for me, yeah, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 114 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:45.639 is where it's at. 115 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:47.680 So can't recommend it highly enough. 116 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:51.000 I saw Tom Petty one time in the airport in LA. 117 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:56.120 Must have been what year I got married in twenty twenty? Nope, 118 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:58.680 I got married in twenty twenty twenty, was just six 119 00:05:58.759 --> 00:05:59.439 years ago. 120 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:01.879 It was It's like, Mary Payne, what do you say? 121 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:04.480 I got married in two thousand, so this must have 122 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:07.480 been in twenty nineteen. I saw him in the airport 123 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:10.279 in LA just like walked right past him and it 124 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:13.720 was like I just didn't know what to do. But 125 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:18.879 rip Tom Petty. All right, this is not about Tom Petty. Listen, yes, 126 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:22.360 all right. I when I do pop the Bravo episodes, 127 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:24.319 I generally don't prepare any nose because I just like 128 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:27.519 to talk. So did you watch Ladies of London? 129 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:31.079 I that is the only show I haven't watched. But 130 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:32.920 here's the thing. I know, Mary Payne. 131 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:36.399 I've heard it's so good, and I'm happy to chat 132 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:38.600 about it because I'd love your perspective. 133 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:40.160 Everyone keeps telling me it's good. 134 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:43.319 But my problem is there is too much Bravo TV 135 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.519 on and I could not fit it in the schedule. 136 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:50.920 I understand I couldn't do it. It's great, it's an easy watch. 137 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:54.079 I would say, it's a you know, pay attention, but 138 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:58.040 not you don't have to like super pay attention. The 139 00:06:58.120 --> 00:06:59.759 reason you would like it, and I would like for 140 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:01.319 you to watch the whole thing and then come back 141 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:01.759 to me here. 142 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:02.920 Okay. 143 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:05.319 The reason you would like it is because there is 144 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:06.959 a lot of therapy that needs to be done with 145 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:10.959 these characters. 146 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:11.199 As is usually the case with reality TV. 147 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:14.920 But right, all right, there's a woman on it that 148 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:18.959 has like a full panic attack meltdown, and she's an actress, 149 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:21.639 so it's really questioned of like it's true because she, 150 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:25.040 you know, claims to have this panic attack and then 151 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:27.040 claims it's all because of her hormones. But then other 152 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:29.600 people are like, no, we saw a text that she 153 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:31.399 said was like, wasn't that a great performance? 154 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:37.720 So uh oh, so she's like Emmy on Southern Hospitality, 155 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:42.480 fake panic attacks to try to manipulate and. 156 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:44.399 To get it out, to get out of a situation 157 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:46.879 that maybe you create. You had some bad behavior and 158 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:49.639 you created a situation for yourself, And like, maybe if 159 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:51.560 I pretend to have a panic attack, everybody will forget 160 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:52.680 what an asshole I was. 161 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:55.519 Yeah, yeah, that is a tactic that I do see 162 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:59.160 a lot. So I are you not watching Southern Hospitality. 163 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:02.240 I have never watched one episode of that, And I'm sorry. 164 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:06.240 You don't need to apologize. Listen, MP, your time is valuable, 165 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:09.519 do you boo? But my point is that Emmy does 166 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:12.360 the same thing. She pretends to have these panic attacks 167 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:16.240 to get out of tough conversations. And I'll just be clear, 168 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:18.040 I don't even need to watch the show to tell 169 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:22.079 you that is manipulation, clear and simple, and a person 170 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:25.600 who would do that to get out of tough conversations 171 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:32.600 is definitely has traits and tendencies that are red flags. 172 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:36.519 Yes, I would say, yes, I agree. And then there's 173 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:40.360 another woman on there. There's a lot of fluid accents, 174 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:44.639 a la jerite, right, you know, there's another woman on 175 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:47.159 Ladies on One. Her name is Kimmy and she's a 176 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:50.039 great case study because she has lots of accents and stuff, 177 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.759 and she, you know, really shuts down when people want 178 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:54.799 to talk about things that are serious. She's like, oh, 179 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:56.840 I don't need to hear sob stories, you know, with 180 00:08:56.960 --> 00:08:59.960 people like we're actually just trying to talk about something serious. 181 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:04.159 She's fascinating. She's from Miami but kind of grew up 182 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:08.000 in Haiti in sort of a questionable regime that her 183 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:10.960 dad was in, and then moved back to Florida. But 184 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:12.960 now she lives in London, so her accent is all 185 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:20.240 over the place and she is clearly a barely functioning alcoholic. 186 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:26.279 So that's fascinating. Then what you would I think would 187 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:27.879 be very interesting And again I'm not giving it away 188 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:30.320 because I'm gonna make you watch it. There's the one 189 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.399 male on the cast. His name is Mark Francis, and 190 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:37.120 he is an openly gay man and he's been on 191 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:39.799 another Bravo show and he's you know, gets driven around 192 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:42.120 because his dad is like an Italian count or something. 193 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:47.600 He's very weltered, very weltered. But there is a point 194 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:51.039 on the season where he breaks down and he explains 195 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:54.000 to these women like you don't understand what it's like 196 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:57.039 to be called a freak and to be called creepy. 197 00:09:57.080 --> 00:09:59.159 And when you're young and you're in an all boys 198 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:03.039 school and you're the only only one that's like openly 199 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:06.720 gay or knows that you're gay, and you're bullied in this, 200 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:10.000 and then you become an adult and somebody says things 201 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:12.120 to you. 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And then when he sort of calls 294 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:54.919 her out on it, that's when she like fakes the 295 00:14:54.960 --> 00:15:02.240 panic attack. But he's very outward with this, like darling, hello, 296 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:06.960 and everybody's beautiful and you're incredible, and he's that. And 297 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.519 that's what Margot can't stand because she sees it as 298 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:12.080 fake and he just sees it as being British, you know. 299 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:16.120 Oh and okay, so okay, I can tell you right now. 300 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:18.320 Then this is why he's triggered by her, because she 301 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:20.519 wants him to be quieter and he's had to be 302 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:24.519 quiet his whole life and he's gonna be literally triggered 303 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:29.720 by that. And that is why they have that relationship. 304 00:15:29.759 --> 00:15:31.240 See, I don't even need to watch it. You can 305 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:32.799 just tell me about it and I'll tell you why. 306 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:36.480 No. And by the way, didn't watch it. Nailed it, 307 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:38.840 nailed it, nailed it. But you have to watch it, 308 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:42.440 and that's your assignment. And when you're done, I have homework. 309 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:44.639 Give me a little text to two and say hey, 310 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:46.080 I watched it and we're gonna come back and we're 311 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:48.600 gonna analyze. Okay, fair enough, we're gonna go. We're gonna 312 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:50.919 get down the whole list. Yeah, even if listen, this 313 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:53.799 is the season that somebody left on the first episode. 314 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.720 Somebody on the first episode tried to do Bravo, Bravo, 315 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:00.240 fucking bravo. First episode. They were like, We're like, who 316 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:03.399 are you. We've watched the show for fifteen minutes and 317 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:04.200 you're trying to leave. 318 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:10.720 Wow, those that's a that's a wild level of entitlement. 319 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:12.679 You're not even famous yet and you're already trying to 320 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:13.879 pull that card. That's wild. 321 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:16.759 It's great. You gotta watch it. You gotta watch it. Okay, Okay, 322 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:20.639 Ladies of London so Beverly Hills, Okay, I'm caught up. 323 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:24.679 We record this on Wednesday, and we've seen now part 324 00:16:24.759 --> 00:16:28.840 two of the reunion. I thought it was great. I thought, 325 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:31.080 you know, sometimes the second part of the reunion is 326 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:36.240 like they put the stuff in the middle. What is 327 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:41.200 up with dread? I cannot put my finger on it. 328 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:44.360 First of all, this is how she talks, Kyle. I 329 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:49.279 do not know what you're talking about. And every confessional 330 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:53.039 she does, it is so measured, and metered as if 331 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:55.320 she's reading the script. She was like, and what do 332 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:58.759 you think of a friend like that? You're just like 333 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:04.480 talk naturally, you know, let's get some therapizing on Dereite. 334 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:05.079 What's happening? 335 00:17:05.799 --> 00:17:08.839 Okay, So my theory about Deria, which I've talked about 336 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:14.200 on my social media, is that sometimes when people I 337 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:19.599 always say, when humans try to correct frequently we overcorrect 338 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:23.319 myself included, like even being aware of it sometimes doesn't matter. 339 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:27.480 And so I think in my mind, Dereit went from 340 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:30.359 being in this marriage where she was pretending things were 341 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:34.240 fine and she was maintaining her image and her status quo, 342 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:39.000 and now she's given up the ghost of doing that 343 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:43.480 and has overcorrected into sometimes like when trauma survivors start 344 00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:47.279 using their voice, it's so loud and it's so reckless 345 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:52.200 because again they're overcorrecting. So my interpretation of what's happening 346 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:56.519 with Deret is that she feels free and unburdened, but 347 00:17:57.200 --> 00:17:58.920 she's overcorrected and now she's just. 348 00:17:58.880 --> 00:17:59.960 Acting like an asshole. 349 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:04.200 So what I heard on social media, which who knows 350 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:07.200 if this is true with AI and everything, I just like, 351 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:10.200 don't trust anything anymore, but that the book, the pre 352 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:16.240 sales were low, so they may not publish it. That's 353 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:19.480 what I saw, But I just I didn't delve into 354 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:23.039 it further. I wish I would have, And so who knows. 355 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:25.119 Hopefully that's not true, because I would love for Dereit 356 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:27.680 to be I want everyone to be successful and happy, 357 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:30.559 and I do want her to tell her story. But 358 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:33.400 the problem is, I think that if she were telling 359 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:37.400 her story in a way that wasn't being an asshole, 360 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:41.480 I think people would care about her being unburdened, you know. 361 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:45.680 But the fact is that Deree she overtalks. She does 362 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:48.799 this thing where she does not let anyone. 363 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:49.640 Get a word in edgewise. 364 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:53.880 And to be honest, there is narcissistic traits and tendencies 365 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:57.440 in that thinking that our voice is the most important thing, 366 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:01.799 that we have the right to overtalk people and prevent 367 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:03.880 people from being heard. And you can tell that she 368 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:07.759 talks so much that it fatigues everybody. Yes, and that 369 00:19:07.960 --> 00:19:10.640 is a real problem. Like when you're fatiguing Andy at 370 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:13.000 a reunion, that's an issue. 371 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:17.480 What does she say this week when he says, well, 372 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:23.839 I'm making an analogy and she says not a good one. Yep, ohkay, okay, 373 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:28.200 hey shit, you know she snapped and he goes on. 374 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:32.000 He goes like, okay, I thought I was good and listen. 375 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:33.799 I thought his analogy was a good one too. But 376 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:38.119 the problem is, again Deree has overcorrected so much, or 377 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:41.440 she just thinks she's like above the law emotionally speaking, 378 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:45.519 but she really does have trouble acknowledging her missteps, like 379 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:50.079 if someone hurts her, if someone hurts us, it's that's valid. 380 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:53.400 But then if we hurt someone as well, that's also valid. 381 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:56.680 So dere is she seems to be that type of person, 382 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:00.119 which to me, this is emotional immaturity that says, well, 383 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:03.079 you've treated me poorly, so now I'm gonna treat you poorly. 384 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:06.880 People sometimes have that eye for an eye mentality, and 385 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:07.799 I'm gonna be honest. 386 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:09.279 That's you usually see. 387 00:20:09.119 --> 00:20:13.599 That in emotionally immature people, because emotional maturity tells us well, 388 00:20:13.640 --> 00:20:15.720 even if they hurt me, that doesn't give me the 389 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:19.119 right to be a blatant asshole, right. Some people miss 390 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:25.400 that emotional maturity chip, and I think Dari's missing it. 391 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:28.319 Yeah, And I don't want to be on PK side 392 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:32.519 because I feel like he's also an asshole and probably 393 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:36.839 is the burden, but I don't know. I just sometimes 394 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:40.319 I feel like you meet this person who's kind of 395 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:43.400 a swindler, you marry the person that's kind of a swindler, 396 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:45.440 and then you're surprised when they're a swindler and you 397 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:48.200 play the victim, you know, you know, And I feel 398 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:50.799 a little bit that way about Brittany and Jackson. God 399 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:54.559 bless you know, God blessed Brittany. She's got two or 400 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:56.480 three stones row uping together in her head trying to 401 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:00.440