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your support. So the defenders of the bureaucracy, who apparently

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don't believe anybody should get fired at the federal government

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apparently moved to fire a bureaucrat themselves because he helped

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to identify waste and fraud.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This story by Luke rosiach Over at the Daily Wire

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daily wire dot com tells the story of Leland do Deck.

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Du Deck was an obscure bureaucrat from the Social Security

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Admin who had dedicated his career to stopping fraud.

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Speaker 1: But when he worked with the Doge.

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Speaker 2: Musketeers to do just that, he came close to being

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fired himself. He wrote a now deleted post on LinkedIn.

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He said, at four point thirty pm, my boss called

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me to tell me that I had been placed on

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administrative leave pending an investigation. They want to fire me

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for cooperating with Doge. Then a stunning reversal occurred. It

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was Acting Social Security Commissioner Michelle King who was out

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of a job, and Dudek was reinstated with a promotion,

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taking her job leading the agency on an interim basis.

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Speaker 1: Right, this is so awesome.

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Speaker 2: The guy identifies some areas that Doge can look at

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to find waste and fraud. That's his expertise inside the

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Social Security Administration. And when he says, hey, I do fraud.

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You guys are looking for fraud. Here's some stuff you

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should look at.

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Speaker 1: And his bosses.

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Speaker 2: Put him under an investigation, suspend him, and look to

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fire him. And the DOGE crowd's like, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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what's happening here? The top dog gets fired and they

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bring in do Deck to take her job. Two words

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for you, people, force multiplier. Force multiplier. There are people

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inside these agencies, inside the federal government. There are people

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who care about this.

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Speaker 1: I played a.

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Speaker 2: Social media video post by a former federal worker. She

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no longer had been in the I think she was

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in apartment of Agriculture, and we played this clip a

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couple of weeks ago, and she talks about how all

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of her colleagues, not all of them, but she mentioned

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the number of instances with her colleagues that were gold bricking,

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basically riding the clock right. They would one guy would

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go off every day and sleep in his car for

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a couple hours around lunchtime, and or sleep in the

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company car or the government car. There are people on

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the inside that know where the waste and the fraud

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and the abuse is occurring. They know, and if they

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tell DOGE people, that is a force multiplier. Because the

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guys that are showing up with their laptops and ai

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that are going through all of this stuff and identifying

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the problems, they could really use some help from people

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on the inside who can tell them where to focus.

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So the Washington Post reported that the acting Social Security Commissioner,

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and there's a reason why she's just acting as the commissioner,

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and I'll get to that in a bit, but she

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was the acting commissioner and King exited the agency after

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refusing to let DOGE access agency data. So she's out

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and Dudek is in. But it was not reported previously

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that the managers at the agency had tried to punish

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this guy because he cooperated with the efficiency zars as

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they are referred to by Luke Rosiak at The Daily Wire.

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The LinkedIn post said the following quote, I confess I

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helped DOGE understand SSA Social Security administration. I mailed myself

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publicly accessible documents and explained them to DOGE. I confess

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I moved contractor money around to add science resources to

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my anti fraud team. I confess I asked where the

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fat was and is in our contracts so we can

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make the right tough choices. I confess I bullied agency executives,

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shared executive contact information, and circumvented the chain of command

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to connect DOGE with the people who get stuff done.

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Everything I have ever done is in service to our country,

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our beneficiaries, and our agency. Okay, here's the thing. If

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you are genuinely concerned about social Security not being there, Okay,

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if you are, and I'm talking to Democrats and media,

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but I repeat myself, if you are genuinely concerned that

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somehow or another, social Security is going to go away,

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It's going to get cut. People are going to get

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their benefits. If you are worried about this, you should

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be helping DOGE. You should be helping them. You should

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be doing what Leland Dudek is doing, because the program

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is going to collapse if you don't clean this thing up,

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the money will be gone and everybody will suffer. So,

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if you actually believe the things that you are saying

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and you want to protect Social Security, the way to

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protect it is not to shield it from DOGE. It's

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to welcome Doge in to find the misspent money, to

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find the misappropriation of funds, to find the waste and

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the fraud and the abuse. The SSA and the White

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House did not return requests for comment. One employee, speaking

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on condition of anonymity, told The Daily Wire that the

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person who put Dudeck on leave was a woman by

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the name of Gina Clemens, the Deputy Commissioner for Analytics,

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Review and Oversight, and she is still on the job

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after the publication of the story, despite a spokesman for

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US Senator Mike Lee Fellow by the name of Billy

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Gribbon said quote, I hope we see more of this.

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There are many good civil servants who have been quietly

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frustrated for years with politically motivated mismanagement, who possess an

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encyclopedic knowledge of the problems within their agencies. Put them

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in charge. Hand them scalpels and flamethrowers. All right, So

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I mentioned why this woman that was shown the door,

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Michelle King, why she was just the acting commissioner. So

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usually it's a six year term, and that allows the

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SSA commissioner to you know, to carry on through presidential transitions. Okay,

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but the norm protecting Joe Biden destroyed that when he

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fired the person that Trump had appointed in his first term.

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Biden's designated relief was Martin O'Malley.

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Speaker 1: Remember that guy.

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Speaker 2: The dynamo made it like two seconds in the presidential

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Democratic primary. Martin O'Malley. I think he's out of like

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Maryland or something. I forget, but he's very forgettable. So

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he seemed to view agency employees, perhaps even more than

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taxpayers and beneficiaries, as his constituency. He signed a last

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minute deal with the employee union in November of twenty

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twenty four, granting them telework for five years so they

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could so they didn't have to come into the office,

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remember that. And then after he did that deal, he

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quit so he could run for the chairman of the DNC.

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That led King to assume their top role on an

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acting basis. Now Dudeck will serve in that role until

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Trump's nominee is confirmed by the US Senate. A fellow

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by the name of Frank Bisignano. I gotta believe Dudek

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will stay on in some capacity. They would be They

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would be foolish to let the guy go after, you know,

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after he has done what he has done and proven

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his worth. Oh, by the way, cash Patel has passed

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his first round of Senate confirmation, the full Senate confirmation.

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They got to do another vote. I think there was

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only one opponent.

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Speaker 1: I think it was.

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Speaker 2: Murkowski or no, it may have been Collins. Sorry, I forget.

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There was one Republican defector basically who voted no against

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cash Patel. But he made it through the first round.

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Wired dot Com piece by David Gilbert. He's gone both

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barrels at Elon Musk, who has repeatedly claimed that his

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so called Department of Government efficiency project had uncovered massive

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government fraud when it alleges that one hundred and fifty

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year olds were claiming Social Security benefits.

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Speaker 1: But Musk has provided no.

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Speaker 2: Evidence to back up his claims, and experts quickly pointed

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out that this is very likely just a quirk of

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the decades old coding language that underpins the government payment system,

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so no problem, say it's just a.

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Speaker 1: It's a coding quirk.

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Speaker 2: Computer programmers quickly claimed that the one hundred and fifty

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year old figure was not evidence of fraud, but rather

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there was of a weird quirk of the Social Security

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Administration's benefits system, which was largely written in Coobyl, not Cobolt,

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as Kevin O'Leary called it, Cobol. Cobol, which is a

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sixty year old programming language that under it's not used

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anymore really, that undergirds sssay's databases as well as systems

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for many other government agencies. Cobol is rarely used today,

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and as such, Musk's cadret of young engineers may well

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be unfamiliar with it, and because COBOL does not have

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a date type, some implementations rely instead on a system

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whereby all dates are coded to a reference point, and

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the most commonly used reference point is May twentieth, eighteen

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seventy five, as this was the date of an international

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standard setting conference held in Paris known as the Colvin

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Chon du mate Uh. These systems default to the reference

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point of May twentieth, eighteen seventy five if there is

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a birth date that is missing or incomplete. See, there's

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no problem here. There's other people who are one hundred

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and fifty years old. We actually don't know how old

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they are. Take that, Elon Musk.

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Speaker 1: Hah, this is this is like this is an own

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for them.

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Speaker 2: Like you guys think you're making a point here, it's

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the same thing. That's actually worse because at least if

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they said they were one hundred and fifty years old,

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we actually have a birth date. But the fact that

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it's coded to this reference point because you don't have

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any date, that makes.

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Speaker 1: It even worse.

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Speaker 2: Musk could also have simply looked up on the SSA's

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own website, which explains that Since September twenty fifteenth, the

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agency has stopped automatically paying those benefits when anybody reaches

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the age of one hundred and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Whew, oh, thank goodness. This makes it so much better too.

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Speaker 2: In September of twenty fifteen, they finally figured out, you

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know what, maybe we shouldn't be paying these benefits to

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anybody who's older than the oldest person on earth. That's

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a good call, guys. Yeah, I don't know why it

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took until September of twenty fifteen to figure that out,

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but they did. Kudos to them, right, shouldn't be paying

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people that are, you know, older than the longest ever person,

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the longest living person ever. So that's a good thing,

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but it still doesn't correct the problem.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: And we saw this same thing occur with the voter

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ID issue, where people were like, they don't have birth

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dates listed because you know, they don't have they are

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one hundred and something years old in our system. It's like, well,

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that's just because we don't have birth dates, Like, that's

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not that's not better. You'd think this is like some

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sort of an explanation, but your explanation.

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Speaker 1: Is not better.

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Speaker 2: The fact that the Social security system contains millions of

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entries from people who are dead, is likely distinct from

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a potential Cobyl coding caused error, and also not news.

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See here we go. Take this elon. A report written

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by the SSA Inspector General in twenty twenty three found

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that ninety eight percent of those one hundred years or

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older in their databases are not in receipt of any benefits.

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Their report added the database would not be updated because

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it would cost too much money to do so, say

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in your face, musk ha again, guys, this is not

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better either. Why do you have all of these people

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still in your database for benefits? And they're like, well,

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they're not getting any Yeah, but shouldn't they be I

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don't know, closed out or something. Why would you still

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have them in there if they are no longer getting

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benefits and they're dead? In your own Inspector General highlighted

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this problem and you're like, yeah, we really do need

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to update the systems, but no, we can't do that

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because we don't have any money. We know we need to,

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but we're not going to. It's just a mess, all right.

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to keep up with all sorts of current events, and

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it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've

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verify information. You could check it out at check dot ground,

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store get covered and by whom. The blind spot feature

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the right. See for yourself check dot ground, dot news

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as they make the media landscape more transparent. So there

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was a very lengthy piece that was written in twenty

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twenty two, actually by Mark Hemingway and Ben Weingarten. We

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had been on the program a couple of days ago.

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This was over at Real Clear Investigations, and it was

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about social security benefits. And what's a really interesting thing

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in all of this discussion is essentially like Musk Elon

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Musk and his doge dudes, the Musketeers, like they're like,

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look at all these social Security numbers. These are probably

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fraudulent being used to you know, send money to to

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fraudsters bilking the social Security system. And the response has

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been weird in that it's like, no, no, no, that's what.

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Just that they're going to illegal aliens. That's all they

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you know, they're used, they're just committing identity theft with

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that so they can work like wait a minute, that's

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that's your explanation. And this is a huge problem. And

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I heard today that now they're directing all of the

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agencies to start looking for the for signs of this

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kind of fraud inside of all federal departments. Three years ago,

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almost three years ago at Real Clear Investigations headline willful

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blindness Feds ignore illegal alien ID theft plaguing Americans. As

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US coffers fill I have heard this argument as well

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that you know. Oh no, Well, look a lot of

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the times illegal aliens will get these ID cards or

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they'll get fake you know, social Security numbers, and they

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pay into the system and they don't even collect the benefits.

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So we should keep allowing this, Like well, whoa whoa,

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whoa whoa whoa whoa. No, first off, Like, so you're

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okay with extracting money from these people's paychecks, taking it

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from them, and then them never getting it back. Like

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that's that's not exactly a law and order kind of

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approach to any of this.

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Speaker 1: It's not ethical.

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Speaker 2: From the piece, the historic surge of illegal immigrants across

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America's southern border is fueling a hidden crime spree. Few

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in Washington seem willing or able to address widespread identity theft,

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victimizing unwitting Americans, perpetrated by migrants who need US credentials

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to work. And by the way, you know who is

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most often affected here, It is American citizens, some of

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whom have been naturalized. They are immigrants themselves, but they

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are legal, and they have names that illegal immigrants from

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particular countries want to have. They tell stories of Let

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me see here, I think I highlighted some of their names.

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They went through a couple of these examples. Yeah, Marcus Calvio,

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Adrian Gonzalez, Linda Trevino. These are people that are getting victimized.

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And sometimes the people that steal their identity, they're not

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just coming to work. I mean they're using the documents,

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they're using these identities and they're committing crimes. And then

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you get pulled over and like you got outstanding warrants on.

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Speaker 1: You wait, what.

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Speaker 2: Ruining people's lives is what they're doing. But you don't

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want to crack down because you need people to clean

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your house, right, you need people to watch your kids, right?

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Speaker 1: Is that the argument you're making.

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Speaker 2: Measuring it with precision is difficult to find out how

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big of a problem this is, how many people there

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are doing this because the lack of data that's provided

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by the authorities. A telling indication, though, of the scope

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of the criminality, is provided by a little known government

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accounting book. It's called the Social Security Administration's Earnings Suspense File,

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or the EESF. It reflects the earnings of employees whose

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W two wage and tax statements have names and Social

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Security numbers that do not match official records, so they

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actually run reports on this called the ESF. The total

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logged in the file has increased from about one hundred

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eighty nine billion at the beginning of the millennium, so

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around nineteen ninety nine two thousand it was at one

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hundred eighty nine billion to now one point nine trillion dollars.

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Officials have historically ascribed a high proportion of the file's

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growth to wages reported by illegal immigrants, and it has

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swelled alongside their population, which and by the way, that

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one point nine trillion number is from twenty twenty one,

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so this doesn't even capture all the fraud that's occurred

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in the last four years under the Biden administration. Among

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those doings that working on the books, federal authorities have

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found well over one million or one million people are

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using Social Security numbers belonging to somebody else, either stolen

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or shared with a relative or acquaintance, or numbers that

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are just completely fabricated. The data that's held in the

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ESF would enable authorities to pursue many of the fraudsters,

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but the IRS and other agencies responsible for enforcing the

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law have been reluctant to investigate, and regulations have prevented

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meaningful information sharing among them. I keep saying this, This

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is a choice.

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Speaker 1: People.

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Speaker 2: People are making these decisions on purpose. A twenty seventeen

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study from the Federation for American Immigration Reform or FAIR,

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found that the federal government collects about twenty two billion

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dollars annually in tax receipts from illegal aliens, with the

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bulk going towards Social Security and Medicare. The fraud has

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the effect of bolstering these financially shaky federal programs. In

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one of the agency's rare direct statements on this issue,

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the Social Security Administration Chief Actuary Stephen Goss told CNN

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over a decade ago that quote, without undocumented immigrants paying

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into the system, social Security would have entered persistent shortfall

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of tax revenue to cover payouts starting in two thousand

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and nine. Again, it's a choice. They're looking the other way.

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They're not enforcing the law, they're not investigating because of

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the money. Given Washington's bipartisan willingness to tolerate a legal immigration,

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whether driven by the multicultural left or business interests seeking

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cheap labor, authorities have focused on this apparent windfall to

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the US Treasury, but they have largely ignored the costs.

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As Thomas Sole says, no solutions, only trade offs. Right,

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So what's the trade off? Well, it includes significant strain

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illegal immigrant households placed on public finances, which fair and

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others other groups estimate vastly outweigh their tax contributions, their

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impacts on crime and the job market, and of course

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on the victims of the identity theft. Right, people say, oh,

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they pay, they pay more, they contribute more to the society. Oh,

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they're paying twenty two billion dollars a year. See that

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they're net positive. What is the cost to build all

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of the schools and hire all of the ESL teachers?

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Speaker 1: What are those costs?

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Speaker 2: Right? There is another side of the ledger here that

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people want to ignore, but I won't. All right, I

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hope you had a happy holiday season. But tell me

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and friends are gathered around, Maybe y'all are in the

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remember those old VHS tapes? Did you ever get them transferred?

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on Dad, who says, oh, you know, well, I've been

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meaning to, but I just having gotten around to it. Look,

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defenders of the status quo are saying that the identity

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theft that is funneling money into Social Security and Medicare

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is a net positive, right, So therefore we shouldn't be

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looking into any of this, like, hey, you know what,

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they're just paying into a system they're never going to

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collect out of the system is still unsustainable, though it's

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not enough. They just look at it as an additional

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revenue stream reports. According to Real Clear Investigations, reports dating

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back over a decade show hundreds of thousands of Americans

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are unknowingly sharing their Social Security numbers with illegal immigrants.

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Such victims may face tax bills for income that they

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did not earn or even depleted benefits. Worse, some may

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experience the burden of bad credit histories even criminal records

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inaccurately attributed to them after being issued social Security numbers

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that illegal aliens have previously invented and used. The overall

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impact on American citizens is largely unknown. Biggest federal, state,

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and local governments, as well as financial institutions, have generally

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failed to notify them even when fraud is suspected. I

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cannot stress this enough. People locked down or freeze your credit.

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Speaker 1: You can do it.

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Speaker 2: Very easily online with the three major credit rating bureaus.

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Put a freeze on your stuff, you will not be

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able to get Nobody will be able to get access

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to anything if it's got to go through one of

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the credit agencies because it's frozen. Now, if you want

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to do something, you got to unfreeze it. But you

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can do that very easily on the websites as well.

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You can unfreeze it for like a set period of time,

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do your application.

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Speaker 1: And then have it locked down again.

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Speaker 2: Ironically, this is another instance of regulation becoming the mother

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of criminal innovation. In nineteen eighty six, Congress made it

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explicitly unlawful for employers to hire I llegal immigrants right

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the Immigration Reform and Control Act the IRCA. It required

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people who were seeking employment to fill out I nine

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forms attesting to citizenship or work authorized immigrant status, and

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provide corroborating documentation and a valid Social Security number. The

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law did not slow the pipeline of immigration because enforcement

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was never done. Border security wasn't done right. That was

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the hoax that the demo crats played on Reagan. According

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to the libertarian Cato Institute, the nineteen eighty six law

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spurred the creation of a large scale black market for

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legal documents in America. The value of document fraud increased

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after this law passed because false documents became necessary for

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illegal immigrants to fill out an I nine form to work.

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Aliens can procure these numbers in several ways. They could

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simply just make up a nine digit number. Others use

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the numbers of kids who were born in the US,

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their own kids, or other kids. Still others steal them

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directly from individual individuals, or they could purchase them from

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dealers for anywhere from eighty to two hundred dollars along

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with a green card, or you go on the dark

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web and you can find them for as little as

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four bucks. The most common form of ID theft where

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fraudsters create an entirely new identity by stealing the social

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Security number of children's or were p moore adults with

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very little credit history. While some illegal immigrants work off

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the books, the Social Security Administration has previously said seventy

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five percent are using fake or stolen numbers. This fraud

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can be detected, as I mentioned, they just don't want

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to look for it. The existence of that ESF that

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report means the Social Security Administration and the IRS with

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which it coordinates have a database containing a substantial population

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of fraudsters against American citizens, and for the better part

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of two decades, government watchdogs have encouraged these agencies to

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put that data to use, but they don't. In two

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thousand and six or twenty years ago, GAO report recommended

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that SSA, IRS DHS share the data to address the problem,

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but federal law severely limits the Social Security Administration and

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the other irs from sharing information from tax forms, in

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part because of privacy concerns. The ACLU called attempts to

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coordinate information sharing between the SSA and immigration enforcement authorities

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during the Trump administration quote an all out assault on

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our legal rights and our immigrant communities, right, so you

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can't even look.

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Speaker 1: For the fraud.

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Speaker 2: According to the ACLU, that's an assault on our rights

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to look for fraud where the victims are American citizens.

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Speaker 1: It's astounding. George W.

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Speaker 2: Bush, during his administration, started doing the SSA No match letters,

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which were notifications that would go to employers saying, hey,

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your employee has a Social Security number that does not

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match government records like your I nine or whatever. Obama

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comes in puts an end to the no match letters.

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Why for DACA for the Deferred Action for Childhood or

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rivals for the Dreamers to allow I legal immigrants brought

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to the US as children to be exempt from deportation

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and eligibility for work permits. Trump gets in and they

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resume sending the no match letters. Biden gets in and

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they discontinue the no match letters once again.

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Speaker 1: Right. You see the pattern here.

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Speaker 2: The IRS has enforcement powers that the Social Security Administration lacks,

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but has historically disavowed any responsibility for dealing with illegal

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alien ID theft. In twenty sixteen, then the IRS Commissioner

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John Coskinen, remember that guy, faced impeachment hearings for defying

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Congressional subpoenas as well as the destruction of evidence, and

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he told Congress we have Social Security and immigration authorities

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and others who enforce that part of the law, and

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if we start looking behind the system and doing their

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job for them, we're going to discourage a lot of

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people from paying the taxes they owe. We can't possibly

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enforce the law.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: The IRS Manual, which governs employee policies and practices, refers

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to those engaged in ID fraud as borrowers. They call

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them borrowers that people may be borrowing a Social Security

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number from somebody else, rather than calling it identity theft.

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As I said, this is a choice. Hopefully DOGE can

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make a different one and correct the problem. All right,

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that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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