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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, I'm Sierra and welcome back to our one

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<v Speaker 1>hundredth episode where we recap one of your original favorite drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Indot your crime unsolved mysteries.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tell Ben so excited.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred Also, did you what is today the day?

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<v Speaker 2>This is dropping? Happy anniversary? Shut the front door.

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<v Speaker 1>We could have not timed that better. One hundred episodes

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<v Speaker 1>and one hundred years.

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<v Speaker 2>Married, one hundred years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're looking real good for a good photos has

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<v Speaker 1>done wonders you.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, I have not had photos, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy anniversary, Love, Happy anniversary. No nineteen years nineteen. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you proud of me that I know that I am

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<v Speaker 1>proud of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ben promise for our twentieth that he'd take me

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<v Speaker 1>to Paris.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've never promised that ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, you said you take that a tour

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<v Speaker 1>of Italy.

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<v Speaker 2>That hasn't been promised that haste.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be fun to do something fun for our twentieth,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have kids, so it just gets really complicated

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<v Speaker 1>traveling alone, especially trying to leave the country without your children.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I agree. So to two milestones, two milestones,

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<v Speaker 2>one fell swoop, one fell stone, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm literally leaving tomorrow to go see Backstreets back.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, doo, how excited? I I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, I'm excited because I'm going with my

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<v Speaker 1>best friend, and I'm very happy that she was able

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<v Speaker 1>to like last minute happen on this. But I am

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<v Speaker 1>a little sad because originally my plan was for you

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<v Speaker 1>and me to do like cheesy old Vegas together. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to like go to the White Chapel and renew

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<v Speaker 1>our vows, like just do dumb things, and there's like

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<v Speaker 1>silly like when I went for Crime Con, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>leave Caesar's Palace. And I'm even sure for the Sphere,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm literally we booked a hotel right next to the

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<v Speaker 1>Sphere so we can just walk over there. We're only

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<v Speaker 1>going to be there for one day because we're both

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<v Speaker 1>busy moms. We're literally going in Wednesday night, going to

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<v Speaker 1>the show Thursday, and coming home Friday morning. So I'm excited,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm a little sad that, like my original plan

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work out the way I wanted it to.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not, it was unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben's really disappointed that he is missing out on Backstreet Boys.

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<v Speaker 1>So they did just announce an extension of their residency.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you would like to go back, I can

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<v Speaker 1>take you this fall.

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<v Speaker 2>It just won't it wouldn't be as good with you

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<v Speaker 2>already seeing it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it needs to both Well, let me see

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<v Speaker 1>it first and then I'll decide if the tour. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think, yeah, so no, happy anniversary. Nineteen years, one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred episodes and one hundred episodes. Contract done, contract fulfilled,

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<v Speaker 1>full filled, both on both. I cannot imagine having to

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<v Speaker 1>date again, covering true crime and watching documentaries. I really

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<v Speaker 1>my heart goes out to people that have to date nowadays.

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<v Speaker 2>I just moved to the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>No one would ever see or hear from Ben again.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids, Yeah, just those because I like them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where they listen. I wouldn't have a podcast, you wouldn't. No,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, all right, let's get into this because while

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<v Speaker 1>today is all of those things, the current moment that

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<v Speaker 1>we're recording this, it is after hours. It's an after

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<v Speaker 1>how does what's his name say it? After hours?

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<v Speaker 2>After hours episode?

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<v Speaker 1>We are leaving in like ten hours for our family vacation,

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<v Speaker 1>going to a wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to a wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>We spent all day packing and cleaning Ben worked a

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<v Speaker 1>ten hour shift today, so good luck getting through this, everybody, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, like we're getting through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Season five, Episode five fifty five is where we are at,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have four stories for you guys today real

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<v Speaker 1>quick before we dive in. If you guys want to

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then you can send us an email Unsolved

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<v Speaker 1>Couple Pod at gmail dot com. Okay, you ready, I

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<v Speaker 1>was born ready?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're going to start off today's episode with a

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<v Speaker 1>missing story.

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<v Speaker 2>A missing story.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, a missing person, do you guys? I'm already how

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<v Speaker 1>so tough?

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<v Speaker 2>How is the story missing?

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<v Speaker 1>The story's missing, So we're just gonna right on.

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<v Speaker 2>Next next one missing person? Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>In the spring of nineteen sixty seven, Mary and you

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<v Speaker 1>Rick went to visit her sister past a married mother. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben just turned off the lights in our bedroom and

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<v Speaker 1>it blacked out real quick. But my light on my

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<v Speaker 1>microphone is like hot pink. I was like, oh, we're

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<v Speaker 1>setting the mood for the hundredth episode. No, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to like still do my job. But

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<v Speaker 1>you just turn the fan off.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you cold? It's a little chilly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, you guys, I be married to someone

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in perimenopause and stuck in the effing death

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<v Speaker 1>desert of Arizona. And Ben's always a little chili. Not

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<v Speaker 1>to get too far off what I already started as

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<v Speaker 1>our story.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of questions about this story. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you do. I don't you can answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I can answer some of them too. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So we have Mary Anne. She's going to go see

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<v Speaker 1>her sister, Pat, who is a married mother of three

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<v Speaker 1>young children. While she's driving over there, she has this

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<v Speaker 1>intense feeling of dread. When she arrives at Pat's house,

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<v Speaker 1>she finds her children unattended. Her daughter told Marianne that

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<v Speaker 1>she was sleeping in the bedroom. It's never a good sign.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved that the daughter had pulled up a chair,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, to the sink, and it was like overflowing

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<v Speaker 1>with dishes and water. And the daughter was just like

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<v Speaker 1>having a heyday playing in the water.

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<v Speaker 2>But I saw that and it made my anxiety and

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<v Speaker 2>go away us. I was like, oh my gosh, please

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<v Speaker 2>stop this, please stop.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like there was water everywhere, it was all

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<v Speaker 1>over the floor, and I thought that girl's gotta be

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<v Speaker 2>I was sadly.

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<v Speaker 1>Maryanne finds her sister Pat unconscious on the bed and

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<v Speaker 1>she's rushed to the hospital. Doctors determined that she had

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<v Speaker 1>an aneurysm that was blocking the flow to Pat's brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Were once again in the world like crazy brain surgeries,

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<v Speaker 1>and this was even this was nineteen sixty seven brain surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they said they clamped her artery in her neck.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh yeah, so a risky surgery is done, as Ben said,

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<v Speaker 1>in which an artery in her neck had to be

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<v Speaker 1>clamped off. I thought that those arteries were there for

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<v Speaker 1>a reason. Isn't one of your arteries in your neck, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if it gets cut, we got a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you've had an ANDWSM brain you're already having

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<v Speaker 2>because that's the blood flow to your brain. You're already

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<v Speaker 2>having problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you're clamping it so that there's less blood

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<v Speaker 1>flow going. That's counter I'm not a doctor, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>you're not a neurosurgeon.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not. That's unfortunate, but I don't think I could

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<v Speaker 2>be wrong. I don't know if that's how they do

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<v Speaker 2>it now. I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you work in the world of neurosurgery, please write

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<v Speaker 1>in and let us know, because I've never heard of

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<v Speaker 1>this in my life, and I had brain surgery, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've now covered a brain surgery. I had a cousin

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<v Speaker 1>who like a tumor like I've known. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>never heard of this procedure.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen sixty seven, yeah, we've come a long way

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<v Speaker 2>in the medical world.

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<v Speaker 1>But according to the doctors, the surgery was successful except

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<v Speaker 1>one teeny tiny little complication. When she awakes, she has

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<v Speaker 1>zero clue who she is. She couldn't recognize her sister,

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<v Speaker 1>her husband, or her children.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you notice that they did not use the word

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<v Speaker 2>amnesia in this story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that means I hadn't been invented yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but Robert Stack is telling the story, and.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves amnesia. It's his favorite thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Here. We actually have amnesia. Yes, yes, the last one

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<v Speaker 2>I and said it was amnesia.

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<v Speaker 1>This one even seems like it's a more severe case

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<v Speaker 1>of it. So, you guys, she had to be taught

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<v Speaker 1>how to even eat and walk again. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>she woke up and kind of had like the last

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<v Speaker 1>lady lost sixteen years. This woman regresses into like it seems.

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<v Speaker 1>She seems to be almost nonverbal, she cannot lost brain damage, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she can't eat. Her husband chooses at this moment.

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<v Speaker 2>That he's out, and this kind said douche.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, he files for divorce and takes custody of

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<v Speaker 1>and recover her life on her own. So he's a loser.

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<v Speaker 1>In November of nineteen sixty eight, a woman who was

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<v Speaker 1>hired to care for Pat called her sister Mary Anne

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<v Speaker 1>and tells her Pat is missing and seems to have

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<v Speaker 1>wandered off dot dot dot Six weeks later, six weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's picked up for vagrancy, which I think is

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like being homeless and just wandering around

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<v Speaker 1>right in Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in Texas, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So Marianne immediately like gets in the car and

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<v Speaker 1>she's she's interviewed. Her sister's interviewed on this episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Unsolved Mysteries, and she tells us like, she drives all night,

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<v Speaker 1>like through the night to get to you. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>get my song reference?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I drove all night to get to you. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>heard that song before?

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<v Speaker 2>It's not ringing any balance?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I sang it perfectly.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you didn't you?

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, people, it's the radio didn't just turn on?

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<v Speaker 1>That was me.

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<v Speaker 2>I know You're perfect every way.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, I thought that was gonna be better what.

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called it drove all night.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, I'll look at you love telling the story.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time she picks her up, she claims that

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't even remember how she got to Alabama. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's very clear that Pet's not only struggling with like

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<v Speaker 1>long term memory, she's even struggling with short term memory.

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<v Speaker 1>So later on, Pat meets a construction worker and sparks

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<v Speaker 2>I liked him.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually thought that this man, because you guys were

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<v Speaker 2>Celine Dionne, is this it? I'm gonna get to the chorus.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to find the chorus. Did you find it?

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard what is the very next line to that?

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<v Speaker 2>Love, crept in your rooms, woke you from your sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I crept into your room and woke you up

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<v Speaker 1>just to make love with you.

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<v Speaker 2>To you?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that all rights? Maybe before you get in the

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<v Speaker 2>Is all right? We're getting off the rails. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>We can do whatever the f we want.

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<v Speaker 2>It's our podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm gonna have to edit out most if

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard this song, you've never heard I'm one.

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<v Speaker 2>I never heard this song on my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a big Slindon fan. Still am okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>we Pat is also interviewed on Unsolved Mysteries, and he

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<v Speaker 1>to be one of the kindest men we've seen interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>on unsolved mysteries. So he starts encouraging her to fight

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<v Speaker 1>for custody of her children. Uh. The court hearing is

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled for May nineteen sixty nine. Sadly, a week before

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<v Speaker 1>the hearing, Troy comes home on his lunch break and

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<v Speaker 1>he says, he came home on his lunch break every

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<v Speaker 1>He comes home to check in on her and he

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<v Speaker 1>finds that pat is gone. She had left without her purse,

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<v Speaker 1>her wallet, her money, and her car keys. Everything is

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<v Speaker 1>in law to only find out that this is not

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<v Speaker 1>the first time she's gone missing. They did not tell him.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave him her medical history, but they never informed

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<v Speaker 1>him that she had a history of kind of wandering

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<v Speaker 1>off and then not being able to remember where she is,

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<v Speaker 1>who she is, and how to get back home. So

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<v Speaker 1>he searches you guys for three weeks for his missing wife,

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<v Speaker 1>and she has sided on the other side out of Houston,

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<v Speaker 1>so she didn't get as far this time. He immediately

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<v Speaker 1>drops everything gets in his car. He doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>drive all night like Celine Dion or like his sister

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<v Speaker 1>in law, he just drives across him and picks her up,

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<v Speaker 1>and she once again cannot explain who, what, where, when why?

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<v Speaker 1>The last three weeks of her life have looked like so.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the next year, Pat wanders off seven more times,

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<v Speaker 1>and the last time she left was January fourteenth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy one, two years after her marriage to Troy. She

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<v Speaker 2>I feel bad for both here, I feel bad for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she's they had the ability to find

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<v Speaker 1>out exactly what was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>She's wandering. It's clear from this brain surgery shit like

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<v Speaker 2>she is mentally ill.

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<v Speaker 1>She can't really seem to get a sense of getting back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying mentally like. I'm just saying she's had

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<v Speaker 2>something and her brain is not is broken, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>working properly. It's how terrifying can that be? And this

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<v Speaker 2>poor man is trying to care for his wife in

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<v Speaker 2>seven different times every day You have to nothing for

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<v Speaker 2>every day you're coming home not knowing if your wife

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Or not, seven times over a year.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she will go missing on weeks on end

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't find her, and it's not there's no internet,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no well and you have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope if someone run into her, does someone take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of her exactly like you don't know, And she seems

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<v Speaker 1>to come back from these wanderings and has no memory.

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<v Speaker 2>Of what is and that can't tell you what happened. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just fine. It breaks off from everyone involved, yeah everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so sadly for this last time she wanders off.

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<v Speaker 1>No one knows where she is, and thirteen months go

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<v Speaker 1>by without a single trace of her, and then a

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<v Speaker 1>little clue surfaces. A welfare office in San Diego, California.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems like she had been staying there and was able

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<v Speaker 1>to give a welfare worker her maiden name and her birthplace.

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<v Speaker 1>But once again, because records are what they are back then,

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<v Speaker 1>there is no Internet, there is no like deep search.

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<v Speaker 1>The worker is able to find one person by that

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<v Speaker 1>name and like that county or that town that matches,

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<v Speaker 1>and is able to contact her aunt in Birmingham, Alabama. However,

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, the only line we get is her

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to follow up.

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<v Speaker 2>What we don't get a lot of information I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Then and dropped the ball big time because sadly, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the last reported sighting of Pat like, we get nothing

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<v Speaker 1>until nineteen seventy seven, she was arrested in Seattle, Washington. However,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not been seen since. Troy eventually remarried in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five, but remains fully supportive. His wife remains fully

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<v Speaker 1>supportive of his search for her, and he gives this

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<v Speaker 1>very sweet story because we're they're being interviewed now, like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty something years later.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's saying, twenty two, I went on.

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<v Speaker 1>I married an amazing woman. I helped her raise her

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<v Speaker 1>two children. I had one biological child of my own.

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<v Speaker 1>I could not ask for my life to be any better.

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<v Speaker 1>The one missing piece is all I want to know

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<v Speaker 1>is that this woman that I loved and cared for,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to her? Is she safe? Is she okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Is she happy? Because she deserves all of those things?

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<v Speaker 2>And he was a good man.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a very good man, and so that is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of where unsolved mystery leaves us.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, updated, okay? Is the way I got question?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Solved? Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Sadly, Troy, though passed away in nineteen ninety seven without

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<v Speaker 1>ever finding pet. He passed away before she was found.

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<v Speaker 1>What Yep, she was located alive and safe living in

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, California, in two thousand and four, thirty years

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<v Speaker 1>after she disappeared. Did I say, I said San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>not San Diego, San Francisco, California. I can't remember what I.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, but earlier she was in San that she had been.

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<v Speaker 1>In San Diego, but now in two thousand and four

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<v Speaker 1>she was located in San Francisco. She had lost a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of her memories and ended up actually having like

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<v Speaker 1>another couple of strokes which caused even more memory losses

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<v Speaker 1>and issues. And when she was found, she was actually

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<v Speaker 1>able to recognize her two sisters, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she had the ability to name them, but seeing their

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<v Speaker 1>faces she did find them to be familiar, and in

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<v Speaker 1>October she was reunited with them, her two sisters and

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<v Speaker 1>her children. Pat's family reported that she is now safely

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<v Speaker 1>living with them, so they moved her into their home

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<v Speaker 1>with them and has not wandered off since. Sadly, Marianne

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<v Speaker 1>passed away in two thousand and five and Barbara passed

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<v Speaker 2>So I looked to Barbara. She was a missing she

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<v Speaker 2>passed away in twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>where and why during that time span. I think part

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<v Speaker 1>of that was because due to her two additional strokes

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<v Speaker 1>and her memory loss, there was almost nothing to piece together.

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<v Speaker 2>But his the thing. I think there's always the fear

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<v Speaker 2>that someone took advantage or someone did it, harmed her. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>When I it's like, sometimes you find out that she

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<v Speaker 2>was possibly found, Yeah, that's good news. And then it

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<v Speaker 2>was very clear that if she was still alive the

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<v Speaker 2>way they tell the story, if she was still alive,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't because she just decided, I don't like these

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<v Speaker 2>people anymore. I don't want anything to do with this life.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to disappear. She was doing things not knowing,

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<v Speaker 2>and she.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably lived in survival mode, welfare to wear affair, state

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<v Speaker 1>program to state program, charity to charity.

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<v Speaker 2>Was she was found, she's a victim, the victim of her.

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<v Speaker 1>Of her illness, of her own Yeah, disability, and.

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<v Speaker 2>That disability unfortunately caused her to go where she ever.

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<v Speaker 1>She went to aditional strokes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, like I've, like I said already, this

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<v Speaker 1>Family was once again, this is real amnesia. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what had like, this is severe place.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to use that word, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when someone says they might be wandering the streets

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<v Speaker 1>unaware of who they were and who they are or

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<v Speaker 1>how they got there, this is literally that story. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is a rarity. This is not the one that

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<v Speaker 1>we have seen time and time again. But it broke

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<v Speaker 1>my heart to read that Troy passed away in ninety

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<v Speaker 1>seven and she wasn't foun until two thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>And four, just because so they kept looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I actually found even on ancestry dot com and

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<v Speaker 1>like missing person's case, like the Jane Doe Network and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Her sisters had posted flyers, updates, emails, made threads, all

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<v Speaker 1>different kinds of stuff, message boards trying to locate and

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<v Speaker 1>find their sister online four years until she was found.

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<v Speaker 1>So her name has been updated on like the Missing

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<v Speaker 1>and Endangered Person's information and all of that. So these

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<v Speaker 1>stories are always hard because we're so grateful that she's found,

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<v Speaker 1>but then it's always at the same time, like anytime,

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<v Speaker 1>then there's a missing person like you always. This is

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<v Speaker 1>when we share these stories or I hear or like

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<v Speaker 1>a crime con when I talk to these parents that

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<v Speaker 1>have missing people in their lives, or sisters who have

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<v Speaker 1>people missing, or brothers or uncles or whoever, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest parts is not knowing where their loved one

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<v Speaker 1>is and if they're still alive. And so when you

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00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:50.519
<v Speaker 1>hear stories like this, like yeah, she was missing for

430
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:55.799
<v Speaker 1>thirty three years, but eventually she was found, she was named,

431
00:25:56.039 --> 00:25:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and she was allowed to like live the rest of

432
00:25:58.680 --> 00:26:00.000
<v Speaker 1>her life in a safe place.

433
00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:02.920
<v Speaker 2>The saying is she found for but then her sister

434
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:05.160
<v Speaker 2>died one year later.

435
00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:08.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and her sister spent like her entire adult life

436
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:09.559
<v Speaker 1>looking for her.

437
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:11.799
<v Speaker 2>It's a good sister.

438
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

439
00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:17.079
<v Speaker 2>All right, what do you got for us? Baby? All right?

440
00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:20.759
<v Speaker 2>I got a weird story. Well, here's the thing. It's

441
00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:22.960
<v Speaker 2>weird because when of where was it?

442
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:27.079
<v Speaker 1>I have a totally normal, non stressful, super happy, simple

443
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:27.839
<v Speaker 1>story for you.

444
00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:35.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I wish I do, But let me

445
00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:40.839
<v Speaker 2>just preface this, Okay. Robbert Stack tells us that we

446
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:45.279
<v Speaker 2>are going to get told a story of a search

447
00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:50.160
<v Speaker 2>for the family of a man's late wife that could

448
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:55.359
<v Speaker 2>help identify a mysterious illness. I wrote that down because

449
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:58.599
<v Speaker 2>that is how it's prefaced, and then its prefaces a

450
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:05.400
<v Speaker 2>lost love. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm starting out

451
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:07.279
<v Speaker 2>like that. I'm going to put a pin in that.

452
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:10.799
<v Speaker 2>So we get told the story. At July nineteen seventy six,

453
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.720
<v Speaker 2>two service members there are stationed at Fort Gordon, Georgia,

454
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:24.119
<v Speaker 2>and they're at the Richmond County Fair and Daryld Tracy

455
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:31.039
<v Speaker 2>he meets Georgia and Boyd and he falls in love,

456
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:41.799
<v Speaker 2>head over, Oh Boyd, that was a good one. She

457
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.720
<v Speaker 2>tells him hard for her well, and in the reenactment,

458
00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 2>she's got a tube top office. She's looking bears looking

459
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:52.920
<v Speaker 2>great at the You know what we say about the

460
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:55.000
<v Speaker 2>fair brings out the best.

461
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Everyone puts on their best the County Fair.

462
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:03.160
<v Speaker 2>That's from a comedian and it's a great bit. So

463
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:06.839
<v Speaker 2>they hit it off. He falls head over heels for

464
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.759
<v Speaker 2>and she tells him that she's a Cherokee born on

465
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:16.960
<v Speaker 2>a reservation in North Carolina, and she goes by Jerry.

466
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>So the next night they go and hang out. He

467
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:23.640
<v Speaker 2>comes to find out that she's a go go dancer

468
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:29.039
<v Speaker 2>at a club. So he spends most of his nights

469
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:35.519
<v Speaker 2>going to the co go dance place. Uh what I have?

470
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I know in my early twenties who were dancers

471
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>we'll call him go go dancers for fun, boyfriends were

472
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.799
<v Speaker 1>not allowed to hang out at the clubs because it

473
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:53.839
<v Speaker 1>doesn't go well.

474
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:54.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

475
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>This man seemed just there's a lot of red flags here.

476
00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:00.519
<v Speaker 1>And I will say there's no shade to this man

477
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:04.039
<v Speaker 1>because I don't think he ended up actually being He's.

478
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Not a bad guy at no, I'm not.

479
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:09.319
<v Speaker 1>He actually talks about how much she trusted her in

480
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:11.559
<v Speaker 1>her working environment and stuff like that. But he just

481
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:12.359
<v Speaker 1>always wants.

482
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.240
<v Speaker 2>But he's also a young service member and he's like, look,

483
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:19.079
<v Speaker 2>am I a hot girlfriend is a go go dancer?

484
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Go go go go. I said it was quote go

485
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>go dancer. No way in heck.

486
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:26.079
<v Speaker 1>She was a go go dancer.

487
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:29.960
<v Speaker 2>But this was what is a go go dancer compared to? Okay,

488
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:31.319
<v Speaker 2>would I think of go go dancers?

489
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:33.359
<v Speaker 1>I think of the sixties, which were hot chicks like

490
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.519
<v Speaker 1>in booty like little booty shorts, cute little outfits and

491
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>knee high boots on that like danced at clubs. But

492
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:45.359
<v Speaker 1>this is unsolved mysteries. So I think Go Go dancer

493
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>is a pseudonym for another kind of dancer.

494
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:51.200
<v Speaker 2>That's what I said.

495
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>That's just going to be my guess.

496
00:29:52.519 --> 00:30:00.440
<v Speaker 2>But this is what club interesting, all right. So he

497
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.039
<v Speaker 2>spends his time going and hanging out with her there

498
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:07.440
<v Speaker 2>and watching her dance. She said she was divorced and

499
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.720
<v Speaker 2>she had two young kids and at the time she

500
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:14.160
<v Speaker 2>was living with an older lady named Granny, but that

501
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a relative. Within two weeks of meeting, she moves

502
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:23.839
<v Speaker 2>in with darryl Okay and to his house, and soon

503
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:26.839
<v Speaker 2>after she moves in, she always keeps the blinds closed.

504
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 2>She's paranoid. I guess he had to call like they

505
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.519
<v Speaker 2>had like the secret ring of how he would call,

506
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.160
<v Speaker 2>hang up, call whatever where she would know it was

507
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>him and she would answer. And she finally told him

508
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:44.440
<v Speaker 2>she was worried that her ex husband was going to

509
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:46.759
<v Speaker 2>try to find her and kidnapped the kids, so that's

510
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:52.480
<v Speaker 2>why she was always paranoid. Months later, he walks into

511
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:55.759
<v Speaker 2>the club and he sees her talking to two men

512
00:30:55.880 --> 00:31:00.599
<v Speaker 2>in suits, which she is a good dance sir, so

513
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:05.240
<v Speaker 2>he says, but they don't look like regulars. So it

514
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:08.640
<v Speaker 2>seems a little odd. And when he asks, like, Hey,

515
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:12.160
<v Speaker 2>who are those guys, she's like, they're nobody. Don't worry

516
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:17.279
<v Speaker 2>about her. She's real mysterious. I would think the dancer

517
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really want to talk about our clientele. But what

518
00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:20.559
<v Speaker 2>do I know.

519
00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>That's private information, private information.

520
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Two weeks later after that, three members of the Devil's Discipline,

521
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:40.400
<v Speaker 2>which is an outlaw motorcycle gang all right, based out

522
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:45.039
<v Speaker 2>of Atlanta. Motorcycle outlaw motorcycle gang. I like how he

523
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:49.680
<v Speaker 2>says that outlaw. It's like it's Jesse James. That's the

524
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:56.200
<v Speaker 2>name of their gang, The Devil's Disciples. The Devil's Disciples.

525
00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Were they on the nose with that one. So they

526
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:06.319
<v Speaker 2>show up, three of them show up. She's scared. She

527
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>tells Daryl that she'd run with the Devils with the

528
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:16.519
<v Speaker 2>Disciples in Atlanta and they'd come back and they told her, hey, listen,

529
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:19.039
<v Speaker 2>you belong to us. You're coming back with us, and

530
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:23.400
<v Speaker 2>she's like no. So when she goes to leave for

531
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:26.400
<v Speaker 2>the night, when she's all done, she gets in Darryl's

532
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 2>car and three these three guys get in a van

533
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.640
<v Speaker 2>and they start chasing them around town and they get

534
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 2>into like a high speed chase to the point where

535
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:39.480
<v Speaker 2>a police officer sees and starts pursuing these two vehicles.

536
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:43.200
<v Speaker 2>He like fishtails into this street.

537
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Could get a sweet car in the arenacto.

538
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it was, but it was awesome.

539
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:50.759
<v Speaker 1>How impressed would you be if it was a gto

540
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:52.039
<v Speaker 1>and I just remember.

541
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 2>That, I would think that's awesome. The van takes off,

542
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:59.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, and that's the end of the story that

543
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 2>we get told. So he tries to get some more information,

544
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.119
<v Speaker 2>like what is going on, and she just she won't tell.

545
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:11.559
<v Speaker 2>She won't give any explanation of what's going on and

546
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:16.160
<v Speaker 2>why these people are after So what I tell They

547
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>met in July nineteen seventy six. In January of nineteen

548
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:27.240
<v Speaker 2>seventy seven, Darald is reassigned to Fort Ord in Northern California,

549
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:31.960
<v Speaker 2>so literally on the other side of the United States. Well,

550
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:37.319
<v Speaker 2>she goes with him and they get married and they

551
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 2>get there in northern California in February of nineteen seventy seven,

552
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.440
<v Speaker 2>and Georgia is pregnant.

553
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, she's had a lot of babies at this point.

554
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, so this is their third kid. And a

555
00:33:56.920 --> 00:34:02.759
<v Speaker 2>few months after getting there, she starts getting harassed something.

556
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:05.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like banging on In the reenactment, he's banging on

557
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:11.840
<v Speaker 2>the windows. He's calling that when Daryl's not around. In

558
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:16.599
<v Speaker 2>the reenactment, one night he shows up while he is

559
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 2>there and he tries to get into their housing and

560
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's on the base. It is on the base,

561
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:26.400
<v Speaker 2>because he says, he calls the military police a lot

562
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:29.480
<v Speaker 2>of questions. I have a lot of questions about this too.

563
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I would like to know how much he actually saw.

564
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:36.519
<v Speaker 2>I would too, So she's afraid. He tries to come

565
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.800
<v Speaker 2>and he goes out there. He doesn't see anybody outside.

566
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.440
<v Speaker 2>He calls the military police and they can't find anything.

567
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:48.400
<v Speaker 2>So days later they go outside and painted on the

568
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:53.480
<v Speaker 2>door is I'll get you Jet. He thinks that Jet

569
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:58.480
<v Speaker 2>is short for Jerry. But he asked her about this,

570
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:01.000
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, I don't know what you're talking about.

571
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:05.599
<v Speaker 2>He says that. She tells him, I will tell you

572
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:10.039
<v Speaker 2>all about my past at a later date. I'm a

573
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:13.079
<v Speaker 2>little concerned because you're married to her and have a kid.

574
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:15.119
<v Speaker 2>But hey, what do I know?

575
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Your chair is squeaking. I don't know if anyone can

576
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.039
<v Speaker 1>pick it, but you might want to scoot forward. There

577
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>you go, there you go.

578
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Sorry. August tenth, nineteen seventy seven, she gives birth to

579
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.559
<v Speaker 2>their son, and she suffered complications. They don't tell us

580
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:33.079
<v Speaker 2>what it is. But due to that, Darryld is able

581
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:39.920
<v Speaker 2>to get granted a harsh a hard ship discharge, and

582
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 2>because of that he moves back to Michigan, which is

583
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:50.559
<v Speaker 2>where he's from, and in that she's pregnant again. So

584
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:55.039
<v Speaker 2>after their second son is born, she begins to have

585
00:35:55.280 --> 00:36:01.199
<v Speaker 2>violent headaches and this goes on for weeks, and he

586
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:05.760
<v Speaker 2>finally says, listen, you need He finally calls an ambulance

587
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:07.199
<v Speaker 2>and takes her to a hospital.

588
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:09.760
<v Speaker 1>By this time, yeah, do you know what I think

589
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:14.280
<v Speaker 1>that she had? What preclamps you? It can happen before

590
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you have your children, but it could also spike afterwards,

591
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:22.880
<v Speaker 1>and it can cause debilitating headaches and you eventually your

592
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>body just does not do well.

593
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:30.000
<v Speaker 2>So she gets into the hospital, she has a brain aneurism,

594
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:32.960
<v Speaker 2>multiple brain aneurysms in this.

595
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Episode, brain aneurysms for everybody, and.

596
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:41.079
<v Speaker 2>She pretty much is brain dead. He tells us the

597
00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:44.280
<v Speaker 2>doctor comes in a cyclist and there's nothing we can do.

598
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Her condition is not getting better, and he.

599
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Decides where I was like, wait, is there a family

600
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:53.559
<v Speaker 1>history cure of a disease that can help solve a

601
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:57.280
<v Speaker 1>brain anurism, brain dead coma?

602
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:00.400
<v Speaker 2>You're thinking all the same things. I am size to

603
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:05.159
<v Speaker 2>shut the machine off, and she dies. Okay, Robert Stack

604
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.840
<v Speaker 2>tells us that she dies at the age of twenty two.

605
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:13.519
<v Speaker 1>Buckle up, everybody, It's gonna get weirder.

606
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Gonna get strange.

607
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:17.519
<v Speaker 1>Did you find the crazy stuff in the research that

608
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:20.039
<v Speaker 1>I did? Because I dig I dug deep into this

609
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:20.559
<v Speaker 1>one too.

610
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully maybe found a little more than I did. I

611
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>tried to find a little bit.

612
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I found quite a bit.

613
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>So she leaves me on four kids. She asks that

614
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:34.559
<v Speaker 2>you know he take care of He did. He takes

615
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.920
<v Speaker 2>care of her two kids from her previous marriage, from

616
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:43.119
<v Speaker 2>her ex, and the two kids that left that. He

617
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:46.599
<v Speaker 2>He tried all he tried to find her family. He

618
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:51.440
<v Speaker 2>calls around to Obviously, she told him she was Native

619
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.760
<v Speaker 2>American born on a reservation north in North Carolina. So

620
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:56.840
<v Speaker 2>he's trying to find that. They put him in touch

621
00:37:56.880 --> 00:38:00.840
<v Speaker 2>with a possible man that she might have and her dad.

622
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:02.679
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I don't know what you're talking about. I

623
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:06.880
<v Speaker 2>don't have a daughter. Like no, So he goes to Augusta,

624
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Georgia and tries to like retrace who is it because

625
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:14.119
<v Speaker 2>he wants to find her family and tell her family, hey,

626
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:17.320
<v Speaker 2>she's passed away. Goes to the go go club and

627
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:20.079
<v Speaker 2>talks to the manager and he's like, listen, I don't

628
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:22.639
<v Speaker 2>know who you're talking about. And he's like, I know

629
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:25.000
<v Speaker 2>you're lying. She worked for you. And he's like, no,

630
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:26.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you're talking about. So he talks

631
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:29.199
<v Speaker 2>to some of the other dancers that knew her, and

632
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:33.920
<v Speaker 2>they pretty much say, hey, just drop it. Goes to

633
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:38.039
<v Speaker 2>a TV station and they agree to broadcast her photo

634
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:43.679
<v Speaker 2>for twenty four hours and they only broadcast at once,

635
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and he tells us that the TV station told us, listen,

636
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:50.320
<v Speaker 2>you need to just let this go and move on

637
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:54.800
<v Speaker 2>and get out of town. The police, who he's contacted

638
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.920
<v Speaker 2>and trying to get information, the police are scared and

639
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.760
<v Speaker 2>they're like, hey, you to drop this and get out

640
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:02.119
<v Speaker 2>of town.

641
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I have some theories. You don't think I just shut

642
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:11.840
<v Speaker 1>my theories down. Do you want to hear me? You

643
00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:12.239
<v Speaker 1>want to hear her?

644
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:12.840
<v Speaker 2>After I.

645
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Think that she was trafficked, and that the go go

646
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:29.119
<v Speaker 1>club or the dancer club or whatever, and the biker gang.

647
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:33.039
<v Speaker 1>A lot of that makes sense to me, especially with

648
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:37.119
<v Speaker 1>what I found about the years of life. I think

649
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:41.119
<v Speaker 1>she got into a situation where she ended up being trafficked,

650
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and this is the early days of being trafficked, and

651
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.880
<v Speaker 1>so her getting a boyfriend and then a fiance and

652
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:53.599
<v Speaker 1>a husband was really inconvenient for her business, or that

653
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:57.119
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't you know, a part of willingly likely. But

654
00:39:57.239 --> 00:39:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to me then that also makes sense why people were saying,

655
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:01.840
<v Speaker 1>like let it go. The girls at the club were

656
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:05.440
<v Speaker 1>saying to let it go. Police officers might have just

657
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:07.320
<v Speaker 1>been doing it to be like due just for your

658
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:11.920
<v Speaker 1>own safety, giving even law enforcement the benefit of the.

659
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:13.559
<v Speaker 2>Doubt, like just let it go.

660
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe that's the only thing I could think of

661
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>that made this story make any kind of sense. I

662
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:23.039
<v Speaker 1>do not think anyone followed her to California. I think

663
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:25.800
<v Speaker 1>she also was suffering from some mental health things. I

664
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:28.159
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of that was paranoia.

665
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:36.920
<v Speaker 2>So Gerald just wants to He tells us that he

666
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:42.599
<v Speaker 2>eventually runs out of money and has to go back

667
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:46.320
<v Speaker 2>home to Michigan. But so fourteen years later, after all

668
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:49.960
<v Speaker 2>of this. He just wants to let her family know

669
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:56.440
<v Speaker 2>that what has happened not a mysterious illness. Yeah, I

670
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.719
<v Speaker 2>don't know if this I don't know what happened.

671
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Film, right, I asked their hair says, I don't think

672
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:05.199
<v Speaker 1>that Robert Stack's intro had anything to do.

673
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:09.000
<v Speaker 2>With this story. Yeah, but the pictures being shown is

674
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:10.519
<v Speaker 2>her in the hospital bed.

675
00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:12.079
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

676
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.000
<v Speaker 2>That's what I thought too, And then when I looked

677
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:19.760
<v Speaker 2>at it, it's him. It's the reenactment like stills or

678
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:23.679
<v Speaker 2>little video of her in the hospital. Yeah, it doesn't

679
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:25.360
<v Speaker 2>make sense. No, it doesn't make sense.

680
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:27.239
<v Speaker 1>And then the kids had an illness that they needed

681
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.159
<v Speaker 1>answers to so nothing, no, yeah.

682
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:32.199
<v Speaker 2>All right, that's where mysteries.

683
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:34.920
<v Speaker 1>All right. So he's looking for our family to let

684
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:38.159
<v Speaker 1>them know that she's passed on and maybe you get

685
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:43.559
<v Speaker 1>some probably information on all these secrets that she had. Yeah,

686
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:44.480
<v Speaker 1>what's the update?

687
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:55.199
<v Speaker 2>All right? Kind of found found her ex husband, they say, family. Yeah,

688
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:59.639
<v Speaker 2>but so they find out her real name is Edith

689
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 2>jar Dean John Moore. A few days later, Gerald and

690
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:09.719
<v Speaker 2>the step daughters. So her first two kids, Sally and.

691
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Angel, six children, you guys, by the time she passes away.

692
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:18.599
<v Speaker 2>I was good, I was getting there. Sally and Angel

693
00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:24.800
<v Speaker 2>are the first two girls that Gerald had helped raise.

694
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:31.960
<v Speaker 2>They themselves have kids of their own, little kids. They

695
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:37.639
<v Speaker 2>meet their natural father, Gary Moore, for the first time

696
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:40.920
<v Speaker 2>in many years since they were little. They then find

697
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:44.800
<v Speaker 2>out that their mother had been married prior and had

698
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:49.719
<v Speaker 2>two other children from a previous marriage, Eugene and Ronda.

699
00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:55.840
<v Speaker 2>And there you'll be able to tell us little more

700
00:42:56.440 --> 00:43:03.920
<v Speaker 2>so I found they her find a grave. She wasn't

701
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:08.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty two when she passed. There's things saying she was

702
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight. But here's the crazy part. Okay, this is

703
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:16.800
<v Speaker 2>what I found a hold on. Let me tell you

704
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:18.840
<v Speaker 2>what I found and then you can tell me. Because

705
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:22.159
<v Speaker 2>there wasn't a lot. It's it was hard. I tried

706
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:26.000
<v Speaker 2>to dig into these people. I have that She was

707
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:31.679
<v Speaker 2>born January twentieth, nineteen fifty in Georgia, but she was married.

708
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Her first marriage was Carl Eugene in August of nineteen

709
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:43.000
<v Speaker 2>sixty four. That would make her fourteen years old.

710
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:48.639
<v Speaker 1>And Carl, what's that?

711
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.039
<v Speaker 2>And how old is Carl? I don't know twenty one.

712
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:54.320
<v Speaker 2>That's disgusting.

713
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean I have different dates than you do.

714
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, here's the thing, but I try. I'm telling you.

715
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.239
<v Speaker 2>I found this from find a Grave. I looked at

716
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:08.920
<v Speaker 2>her on ancestry. Their references is from find the Grave.

717
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't find birth certificates, so I don't know if

718
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:14.599
<v Speaker 2>these dates are even correct.

719
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>The dates that I got were from her family at least. Again,

720
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:21.559
<v Speaker 1>take this with a grain. Aissa on a message board

721
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:24.719
<v Speaker 1>saying that this is the only thing they knew about her,

722
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:29.599
<v Speaker 1>because there's two or three message boards about people that

723
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:31.119
<v Speaker 1>have seen this that are like, hey, do we ever

724
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:35.000
<v Speaker 1>find out any more information about her? And a couple

725
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:39.400
<v Speaker 1>of people have come forward. A granddaughter who was actually

726
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>a granddaughter is one of the babies in the re

727
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:46.360
<v Speaker 1>enact or is in the reunited part of the thing,

728
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>so she's in the unsolved mystery. She shares a little

729
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 1>bit of information about what she knew about her grandmother.

730
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:58.119
<v Speaker 1>She's at According to her, that she had six children

731
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:01.840
<v Speaker 1>by the age of twenty two two, and her first

732
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:05.960
<v Speaker 1>husband and her were married, and she gave birth at

733
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:13.079
<v Speaker 1>the age of eleven years old and Carl was twenty one.

734
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:15.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, and here's my other question.

735
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:20.079
<v Speaker 1>She went on to have two other children with Carl's.

736
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Nephew that's what say. They have the same last name,

737
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:31.079
<v Speaker 2>her children's cousin because Carl Eugene Moore. This record says

738
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:34.400
<v Speaker 2>that she married Carl Eugene Moore on the fourteenth of

739
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:40.039
<v Speaker 2>August nineteen sixty four, and Alderdin, South Carolina divorced him.

740
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:47.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh they're right here. Second marriage Gary Thomas Moore, ninth

741
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:52.920
<v Speaker 2>of March nineteen seventy two, nephew of first husband Carl

742
00:45:53.000 --> 00:46:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Eugene Moore. Yep. Disgusting. And then she at Darld Tracy,

743
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:11.639
<v Speaker 2>which it appears that this was a legitimate relationship, consensual,

744
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:16.360
<v Speaker 2>loved her, she loved him, and they had two children together.

745
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So here's the thing. I don't think that

746
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:26.679
<v Speaker 1>the first two baby daddies were actually looking and the

747
00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:30.320
<v Speaker 1>ones harassing her. What makes more sense to me is

748
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:33.760
<v Speaker 1>this girl, potentially either at eleven or fourteen either which

749
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:38.199
<v Speaker 1>are absolutely disgusting, was married and pregnant and popping out

750
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:42.599
<v Speaker 1>children well while she was still herself a child. I

751
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:45.639
<v Speaker 1>think she left those relationships and ran away from whatever

752
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:48.880
<v Speaker 1>this toxic little town that she was living in. I think,

753
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:53.079
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately she got swooped up into potential trafficking situation to

754
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:53.960
<v Speaker 1>just likely.

755
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:59.239
<v Speaker 2>It's your probably makes more sense. This girl and that's

756
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:04.679
<v Speaker 2>just my Thincond clearly had a terrible yea life, and

757
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:08.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm bringing I found her on ancestry dot com. Someone

758
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:12.039
<v Speaker 2>has linked parents, but I have no source of it.

759
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:16.639
<v Speaker 2>It's not like it's from a census or any type

760
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:25.159
<v Speaker 2>of records. And it was her. They're saying her parents

761
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:30.119
<v Speaker 2>was Grady our John's and Pearl Daniels who Grady didn't

762
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:32.639
<v Speaker 2>die till two thousand and Pearl didn't die till two

763
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:37.880
<v Speaker 2>thousand and three. I'm having a hard time. I mean,

764
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's just but you know how I

765
00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:53.119
<v Speaker 2>feel about like it's.

766
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:55.280
<v Speaker 1>A quote different time or whatever.

767
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm bringing that up is where were.

768
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Her parents were the parents?

769
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:05.159
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying, Like, I bring these their LinkedIn ancestry.

770
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anything about them, and I don't how

771
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.639
<v Speaker 2>many these if those were actually.

772
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:11.159
<v Speaker 1>Her parents, thoughts about them?

773
00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, if that is actually her parents, I don't know

774
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:18.000
<v Speaker 2>because I have no I have no actual records. Yeah,

775
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I like to see something like in a census where

776
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:23.760
<v Speaker 2>it says a household and it names that. Yeah, so

777
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:28.599
<v Speaker 2>either way kind of solved at least this guy get tragedy.

778
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:33.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this guy raised her children, raised his for him.

779
00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:34.639
<v Speaker 2>He was a good man, had.

780
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.239
<v Speaker 1>This blended family. It seems like he went on to

781
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.639
<v Speaker 1>get married again and still sought to try to connect

782
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:43.599
<v Speaker 1>his uh the two kids that raves yeah, to their

783
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:46.719
<v Speaker 1>biological family if they wanted to have a relationship with it.

784
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:50.039
<v Speaker 1>I did read one of the message boards that after

785
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that meeting, that family never really had much to do

786
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:56.079
<v Speaker 1>with the two daughters.

787
00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Shocking, I know.

788
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:02.760
<v Speaker 1>So okay, all right, well we're not gonna get much

789
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:05.880
<v Speaker 1>better in the story because next they have to tell

790
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:10.760
<v Speaker 1>you a sad, sad story. So this is categories as wanted,

791
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:16.719
<v Speaker 1>and it's from a young woman named Lucille Turmail. She's

792
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:20.639
<v Speaker 1>a twenty three year old cab driver, which I haven't

793
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:22.800
<v Speaker 1>seen a lot of, like female cab drivers. And then

794
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:24.880
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna find this is in eighty seven, which I

795
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:26.880
<v Speaker 1>thought was kind of like this cool thing to be

796
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 1>a cab driver and to be young and like living

797
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:34.519
<v Speaker 1>in She was a resort town banf Alberta, which is

798
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:35.840
<v Speaker 1>in Canada.

799
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:37.280
<v Speaker 2>I love the.

800
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Accents when people. Canadian voices are one of my favorites.

801
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:44.920
<v Speaker 1>And all the people interviewed are deep Canadian and I

802
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:48.519
<v Speaker 1>was here for it. Yeah, hey, don't you do all right?

803
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:52.480
<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen eighty seven, she moves to Banff, Albert,

804
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:56.199
<v Speaker 1>Canada to start this new life, and she started to

805
00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:59.960
<v Speaker 1>work the night shift as a cab driver eight pm

806
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:03.079
<v Speaker 1>the night of May sixteenth, nineteen ninety and spends most

807
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:05.920
<v Speaker 1>of our night like you would a regular night, picking

808
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.679
<v Speaker 1>up people in downtown area in the touristy spots, getting

809
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:13.239
<v Speaker 1>them back to the hotel safely, YadA, YadA, YadA. At

810
00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:15.599
<v Speaker 1>the end of the shift, she had taken in just

811
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:18.199
<v Speaker 1>over about one hundred dollars. Now, that wasn't her money

812
00:50:18.239 --> 00:50:21.280
<v Speaker 1>to keep, but back then, cab drivers would keep their

813
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:23.760
<v Speaker 1>fair like a like a waitress kind of does, and

814
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:25.440
<v Speaker 1>then they would turn that in at the night. So

815
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:28.880
<v Speaker 1>they're in communication with the cab company throughout the evening,

816
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:31.519
<v Speaker 1>checking in and kind of keeping a running total and

817
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:34.960
<v Speaker 1>so on and so forth. So around one forty am

818
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:39.480
<v Speaker 1>she arrives at the Works nightclub on Spray Avenue, planning

819
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:42.039
<v Speaker 1>to pick up one last fair before calling in an evening.

820
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:46.280
<v Speaker 1>While there, she chats with another cab driver. His name

821
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:52.119
<v Speaker 1>is Larry, and they have a casual conversation and as

822
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:54.639
<v Speaker 1>there've been a conversation, a man and two women enter

823
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the back of her cab. She says good night to

824
00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Larry calls in her destination to dispatch.

825
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Bruce.

826
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:07.639
<v Speaker 1>About twenty minutes later, Larry contacts Bruce, which I'm gonna

827
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:11.159
<v Speaker 1>guess is the dispatch. Oh yeah, destination to her dispatcher

828
00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:15.480
<v Speaker 1>whose name is Bruce. Twenty minutes later, Larry contacts Bruce

829
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:17.880
<v Speaker 1>to see if he had heard from Lucille.

830
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:18.840
<v Speaker 2>He had not.

831
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Bruce asked for her on the radio, but did not

832
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:25.199
<v Speaker 1>receive a response. Twenty minutes later, Larry begins to search

833
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:28.480
<v Speaker 1>for her. He passes by her known destinations as well

834
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:31.599
<v Speaker 1>as her house. It seems like this is a pretty

835
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:34.920
<v Speaker 1>small little area, so less than a block away, he

836
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:39.519
<v Speaker 1>actually sees her cab drive past him. However, she's not

837
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:43.599
<v Speaker 1>the person driving the vehicle. We're about to get after

838
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:48.280
<v Speaker 1>another high speed chasier because he flips a U and

839
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:54.360
<v Speaker 1>starts following her cab and calling it in and for

840
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:59.519
<v Speaker 1>two miles he tailgates the stolen cab while reaching speeds

841
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of up to almost eighty miles an hour, which back

842
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:08.760
<v Speaker 1>then that was pretty darn vest. Finally, he corners the

843
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:12.800
<v Speaker 1>cab on a dead end street and an unidentified man

844
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:19.679
<v Speaker 1>exit the cab and disappears into the woods. Tragically, as

845
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:23.079
<v Speaker 1>the same time as this like high speed chase is happening,

846
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Zille's body is found in the middle of the street,

847
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:29.719
<v Speaker 1>just a few miles from where her cab had been abandoned.

848
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:35.079
<v Speaker 1>She had been stabbed repeatedly in the neck. Her murder

849
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:36.920
<v Speaker 1>was actually the first to occur in the area and

850
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:41.599
<v Speaker 1>over twenty years, and the policeman's interviewed and the Royal

851
00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Mountain Police, I guess is what they're called there and

852
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:47.079
<v Speaker 1>saying that since then, no other violent crimes had even occurred,

853
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:50.159
<v Speaker 1>So this is very rare occurrence in this area.

854
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so this is the first manner we've had and

855
00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:57.639
<v Speaker 2>who knows how long twenty years wild?

856
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So the killer took only her jacket, wallet and

857
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:04.840
<v Speaker 1>about one hundred and thirty bucks from her, and her

858
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:08.960
<v Speaker 1>wallet was actually later recovered. When her cab was examined,

859
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:13.199
<v Speaker 1>blood was found on the seaked dashboard and steering wheels. Surprisingly,

860
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:15.639
<v Speaker 1>though they were able to determine that none of the

861
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:20.480
<v Speaker 1>blood in the car actually belonged to her. Eighteen hours

862
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.119
<v Speaker 1>after the killing, the murder weapon, a kitchen knife that

863
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:25.880
<v Speaker 1>had been stolen from a local hotel was found in

864
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:28.400
<v Speaker 1>a driveway. This led police to believe that the killer

865
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:33.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe from out of town. However, the killer remains unidentified.

866
00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:37.400
<v Speaker 1>An unknown Caucasian Mail had been seen by another cab

867
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:40.639
<v Speaker 1>driver driving her car the night she had died. His

868
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:43.840
<v Speaker 1>blood was found in her taxi. He was believed to

869
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:46.000
<v Speaker 1>be in his early twenties. Because the murder weapon was

870
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:47.920
<v Speaker 1>stolen from a hotel, it's possible he was from out

871
00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:51.239
<v Speaker 1>of town. Police would also like to locate the three

872
00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:54.519
<v Speaker 1>people who were the last ones to take the cab

873
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that evening. They were believed to have been dropped off

874
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:01.639
<v Speaker 1>in front of a large apartment complex. Most of its

875
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:04.440
<v Speaker 1>renters are people from out of town that are there

876
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:07.000
<v Speaker 1>for work. It is believed that they may have seen

877
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:13.559
<v Speaker 1>her killer, and that is where unsolved mystery leaves us

878
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:23.360
<v Speaker 1>all right up date okay solved. November of nineteen ninety two,

879
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:28.920
<v Speaker 1>a man named Ryan Jason Love is arrested and charged

880
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:32.920
<v Speaker 1>with her murder. He became a suspect after one of

881
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:36.119
<v Speaker 1>his roommates told police that the murder weapon was a

882
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:39.840
<v Speaker 1>knife that had belonged to Love. In fact, he had

883
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:45.760
<v Speaker 1>previously worked at the band's band Springs Hotel. Police were

884
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:50.599
<v Speaker 1>actually able to collect his DNA, and I'm going to

885
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:52.119
<v Speaker 1>get into it in a minute, but they ended up

886
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:56.559
<v Speaker 1>like befriending him and going undercover for two years because

887
00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:59.159
<v Speaker 1>they took a bunch of people's DNA and he's the

888
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:02.119
<v Speaker 1>only one out of like this list of suspects that

889
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:05.920
<v Speaker 1>refuse And I don't know what Canada's laws are, Yeah,

890
00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:12.119
<v Speaker 1>they must be different a And so they befriended him

891
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:16.039
<v Speaker 1>for two years before they were able to collect his DNA.

892
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like you what it.

893
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Seems like, Yeah, but in ninety two it wasn't as

894
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:23.719
<v Speaker 2>simple as a cup, like you really.

895
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Needed a hefty amount of DNA.

896
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

897
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.559
<v Speaker 1>He blew his nose, which sounds you guys if you

898
00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:35.039
<v Speaker 1>have a gag reflex like I do. Fast forward a

899
00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:40.920
<v Speaker 1>few seconds. Blew his nose into a cloth handkerchief and

900
00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:43.840
<v Speaker 1>threw it on the ground, and the guy picked it,

901
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:52.360
<v Speaker 1>picked it up to gag and they were able to

902
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:53.679
<v Speaker 1>get DNA.

903
00:55:53.400 --> 00:56:00.119
<v Speaker 2>Fronder the they opened it up. They opened up this handkerchief,

904
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:02.239
<v Speaker 2>they were they swabed it.

905
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Nobody wants to hear me gagging on a podcast microphone.

906
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, they have filled the whole petri dish of the

907
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:16.760
<v Speaker 2>what it was in the Okay, there was a whole

908
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:20.000
<v Speaker 2>patri dish of what was in that handkerchief Love was

909
00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:23.159
<v Speaker 2>eight is a handkerchief or handkerchief handkerchief.

910
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:25.639
<v Speaker 1>Love was eighteen at the time of the murder, and

911
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:29.480
<v Speaker 1>reportedly killed her because he wanted to impress his relatives

912
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:31.599
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of cash at a family reunion he

913
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:36.280
<v Speaker 1>was attending the next morning. What a stupid ass reason.

914
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:38.119
<v Speaker 1>And I know we don't cast so much, but that

915
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:39.199
<v Speaker 1>takes me off.

916
00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:40.840
<v Speaker 2>That's dumb.

917
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I agree. This man is garbage.

918
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:51.719
<v Speaker 2>He's a murderer, yeah, of us an innocent stranger. Yes,

919
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:55.960
<v Speaker 2>not that any murder is good. I'm just saying like.

920
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, So he's convicted of sex degree murder. How I

921
00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:06.559
<v Speaker 1>don't know, and it's given twenty years to life. He's

922
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:09.599
<v Speaker 1>actually granted parole in just over twenty years. I do

923
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:12.559
<v Speaker 1>know that another country's parole's a lot easier to get

924
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>than it is here in America. So in June of

925
00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:19.719
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety six is when he finally confessed. You only

926
00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:22.559
<v Speaker 1>confessed after all of his appeals had been exhausted. So

927
00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:25.440
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't even do the right thing and confess upfront.

928
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:29.880
<v Speaker 1>So I got some more Informationally.

929
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:32.639
<v Speaker 2>He's a douche. If you're listening, dude, you're a douche.

930
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:35.679
<v Speaker 1>I hope you stub your pinky toe every morning.

931
00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:36.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

932
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:43.079
<v Speaker 1>So there was some pushback on how this DNA was

933
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>collected because there it was collected from two different sources.

934
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:51.360
<v Speaker 1>There was nosehairs found in the mucus. I don't want

935
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:55.199
<v Speaker 1>to talk about it too much. And he fought it

936
00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:57.840
<v Speaker 1>on appeal saying that like they did have the right

937
00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:01.239
<v Speaker 1>to collect it. And so the judge actually agreed with

938
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:06.920
<v Speaker 1>him on the hairs, but didn't exclude the mucus because

939
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:09.199
<v Speaker 1>he had thrown it away.

940
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Throwing it out serious has such a hard time.

941
00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:18.880
<v Speaker 1>So as a result of the case, the criminal Code

942
00:58:18.920 --> 00:58:23.360
<v Speaker 1>was actually amended to allow police to obtain DNA samples

943
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:28.639
<v Speaker 1>from unwilling subblement stop. In two thousand and one, the

944
00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:33.559
<v Speaker 1>murder was dramatized on a TV episode program called Secrets

945
00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:38.760
<v Speaker 1>of Forensic Science, where the version of the name of

946
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the young girl and it was Maria or Marie. So

947
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I got this information from a blog and the blog

948
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:52.159
<v Speaker 1>is called Canadian tax Driver homicides. There must be a

949
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:56.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of homicides for someone. Yeah, I don't know what's

950
00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:59.960
<v Speaker 1>happening here in Canada, but take care for taxi drive.

951
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Don't be a texted.

952
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:03.360
<v Speaker 1>But this is the only place so I can say

953
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:05.639
<v Speaker 1>this is the source that I got this information because

954
00:59:05.679 --> 00:59:08.920
<v Speaker 1>this blog writer did the work on what this loser

955
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:12.280
<v Speaker 1>has been doing since he got out of prison. So

956
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:15.599
<v Speaker 1>in early two thousand and one, he broke up with

957
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:16.880
<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend.

958
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Early whoa whoa two thousand and one.

959
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this man was sentenced to life imprisonment in

960
00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:28.079
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety four with no parole eligibility for twenty years.

961
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:30.880
<v Speaker 1>But he was released on the day of his parole

962
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:34.039
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and eleven, and it was only in

963
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:37.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty eleven he was released on half day parole, so

964
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:39.679
<v Speaker 1>he was like living in a halfway house.

965
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Only did.

966
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:47.599
<v Speaker 1>Seventeen years, and then he transitioned in twenty and twelve,

967
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:53.000
<v Speaker 1>so eighteen years into full parole. By twenty twenty one,

968
00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:56.880
<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend broke up with him and he was charged

969
00:59:56.920 --> 01:00:00.280
<v Speaker 1>with smashing the windows of her car with a baseball bat.

970
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Not very loving of mister love. So his parole was

971
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:06.760
<v Speaker 1>he was a violent man.

972
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

973
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:10.679
<v Speaker 1>So his parole was suspended but then reinstated in March

974
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:14.199
<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty two with special conditions. No further information.

975
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:17.519
<v Speaker 1>All those conditions are fast forward to August of twenty

976
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:25.599
<v Speaker 1>twenty two. During a traffic stop, this slimeball, the slug

977
01:00:25.639 --> 01:00:30.440
<v Speaker 1>of a man was found with an intoxicated woman in

978
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:35.639
<v Speaker 1>an area. He was an intoxicated woman in the area

979
01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:39.559
<v Speaker 1>known for crime, sustenance abuse, and women who worked in

980
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:44.880
<v Speaker 1>sex work, so he got in trouble for that. He

981
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:47.599
<v Speaker 1>was then imprisoned and released on one day of parole

982
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:49.840
<v Speaker 1>in six months and in April of twenty twenty four,

983
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:55.719
<v Speaker 1>and then f usht forward sorry October twenty twenty four,

984
01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:59.239
<v Speaker 1>the day's parole was extended for another six months. The

985
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:02.599
<v Speaker 1>assessment had been determined that he was quote low to

986
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:06.840
<v Speaker 1>moder at risk for a violent offending despite having demonstrated

987
01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:13.360
<v Speaker 1>mixed behaviors while out on parole. So seems like he's

988
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:16.559
<v Speaker 1>still a waste of human space.

989
01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:22.360
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna just keep going around attacking with me

990
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:28.119
<v Speaker 2>being a problem, yeah to society, and we're just going

991
01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:29.599
<v Speaker 2>to keep telling him.

992
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Yep, don't do that, don't do don't do that.

993
01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even though he's already killed someone.

994
01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:39.280
<v Speaker 1>He's already demonstrated that he's able to kis him because

995
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:43.119
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to show to his family reunion with cash with.

996
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:46.159
<v Speaker 2>The hundred bucks. Yeah that's all she had.

997
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:52.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she was so young, pretty, She was in a peaceful, quiet,

998
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:57.119
<v Speaker 1>little mountain neighbor that this mountaintown looks amazing. All right,

999
01:01:57.159 --> 01:01:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Ben has one more story for us. But this is

1000
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:01.159
<v Speaker 1>going to be no surprise any buddy. That he's completely

1001
01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:04.000
<v Speaker 1>closed his laptop and said it on the ground as

1002
01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:05.360
<v Speaker 1>if he was done for the night.

1003
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:06.639
<v Speaker 2>I have to get my notes.

1004
01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:11.320
<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't be the one hundredth episode without being needing

1005
01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:13.159
<v Speaker 1>to get his notes.

1006
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh dude, this is my fourth time trend.

1007
01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:19.880
<v Speaker 1>If you can you imagine if you get locked out

1008
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:24.159
<v Speaker 1>of your own computer and you shared the one story

1009
01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:29.599
<v Speaker 1>that I did research on without a pass. I did

1010
01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:31.800
<v Speaker 1>an extra story in case you right out of time

1011
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:41.280
<v Speaker 1>because we barely finished packing. All right, okay, lake.

1012
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Panas so oh man.

1013
01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Don't look at me, panasaquana pass. This makes me think

1014
01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:55.800
<v Speaker 1>of the peach dragon.

1015
01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Softy pans of so.

1016
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:06.519
<v Speaker 1>SoftKey panasoftke because this isn't the South, is it French?

1017
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:08.840
<v Speaker 2>It's in Florida. Oh it's in Florida, all right. So

1018
01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Wetlands twenty five square miles, February seventeenth, nineteen seventy one.

1019
01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Two teenagers they're hitchhiking along Eye seventy five. As they're hitchhiking,

1020
01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:23.400
<v Speaker 2>they look over. They're passing over a bridge of the wetlands,

1021
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:26.719
<v Speaker 2>and they look over and they see something in the water.

1022
01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:31.360
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't look good. They call the police. Police go

1023
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:37.280
<v Speaker 2>out there and they pull out an extremely decomposed body

1024
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:40.679
<v Speaker 2>of a very young woman. She appeared to be.

1025
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:48.199
<v Speaker 1>The reenactment, though what it was a styrofoam head that

1026
01:03:48.239 --> 01:03:50.760
<v Speaker 1>they put on a fake body. Did you see it?

1027
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they were expecting HD to eventually come

1028
01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:55.159
<v Speaker 1>into problems.

1029
01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:56.800
<v Speaker 2>So bad, that's all right?

1030
01:03:56.960 --> 01:03:59.360
<v Speaker 1>How did alligators also not get into this?

1031
01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:00.679
<v Speaker 2>Great question?

1032
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Because in my mind, alligators are a constant problem in Florida.

1033
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Always a problem, all right. They believe that she was

1034
01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:17.840
<v Speaker 2>strangled because there's still a man's size thirty six belt

1035
01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:23.840
<v Speaker 2>around her throat. So they believe she was in her

1036
01:04:24.159 --> 01:04:27.679
<v Speaker 2>late teens early twenties, and the body had been in

1037
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:31.039
<v Speaker 2>the water, and she'd been dead for at least three weeks,

1038
01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:37.440
<v Speaker 2>if not longer, so it was pretty decomposed, so no one,

1039
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:41.840
<v Speaker 2>no one comes to claim the body. They are running checks,

1040
01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:47.079
<v Speaker 2>they can't find who she is or identifier. She is

1041
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:52.960
<v Speaker 2>eventually laid to rest under a small little placard named

1042
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:57.519
<v Speaker 2>Jane Doe. Okay, ten, that is what I said. That

1043
01:04:57.599 --> 01:05:02.360
<v Speaker 2>was nineteen seventy one. Ten years later, Jamie Adams becomes

1044
01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:09.360
<v Speaker 2>sheriff of Sutner County. He's awesome. Uh. He reads about

1045
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:13.199
<v Speaker 2>this case and he's extremely disturbed by this case. He

1046
01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:17.119
<v Speaker 2>gets on, he's interviewed. He's like, listen, he's the sweetest one.

1047
01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:19.880
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I'm a dad, I'm a granddaddy.

1048
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:23.159
<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, called himself was a granddaddy, was a popper.

1049
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:25.039
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, oh, I love this man. And

1050
01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:28.480
<v Speaker 1>he had the most crystal clear blue eyes too.

1051
01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:31.519
<v Speaker 2>He was he's a good man. He says something about

1052
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:34.840
<v Speaker 2>this case just pulls it as heartstrings. He's like, no

1053
01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:38.880
<v Speaker 2>one here was this girl does? He deserves to be home,

1054
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:44.760
<v Speaker 2>her family deserves to have this closure. And I want

1055
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:45.079
<v Speaker 2>to know.

1056
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Even if a Sunday school teacher knew who she was,

1057
01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:54.559
<v Speaker 1>that person deserves like even the smallest impact was made

1058
01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:58.920
<v Speaker 1>on someone's life. By this Jane Doe, I owe it

1059
01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:01.400
<v Speaker 1>to that person to return them.

1060
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:05.039
<v Speaker 2>I want to find out who she is and make

1061
01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:13.639
<v Speaker 2>this right. So he reopens the case, gets a court

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01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:17.800
<v Speaker 2>order and exhumes the body. He hires like one of

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01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:22.320
<v Speaker 2>the best doctors around to come and do the autopsy

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01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:25.119
<v Speaker 2>because he wants to find out as much as he can.

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01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:29.679
<v Speaker 2>He does the autopsy and finds that there had been

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01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:34.840
<v Speaker 2>an orthopedic surgery in her ankle and it was the

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01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Watson Jones technique. So he's like, listen, we found this.

1068
01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:44.360
<v Speaker 2>It's cleared, so you know, he she's had this done.

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01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:48.199
<v Speaker 2>Maybe someone can help identify someone knows someone that has

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01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:54.599
<v Speaker 2>had this surgery and you know, around this age. That'll help.

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<v Speaker 2>He also hires a lady named Linda Gallineer. She's a

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01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:03.719
<v Speaker 2>friend artists. She takes you know, obviously computers not as

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01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:07.639
<v Speaker 2>big back then. She takes a picture of the skull

1074
01:07:08.280 --> 01:07:14.599
<v Speaker 2>and she is able to recreate a drawing of this

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01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:18.039
<v Speaker 2>girl of what she might have appeared to look at

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01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:21.360
<v Speaker 2>to look like at the time. He also then asked

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01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:23.920
<v Speaker 2>her to do something that hadn't been done at the time,

1078
01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:29.440
<v Speaker 2>if she could draw age regression drawings, not if we're

1079
01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:32.880
<v Speaker 2>being older, but if her being younger, he tries to

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01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:35.760
<v Speaker 2>get her like around ten years old or twelve and

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01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:40.559
<v Speaker 2>around five years old, because he says, maybe there's a

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01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:45.360
<v Speaker 2>school teacher, a Sunday school teacher, somebody that might recognize

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01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:49.920
<v Speaker 2>that photo and help us identify her. He mails flyers

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01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:54.119
<v Speaker 2>to over three thousand law enforcement agencies throughout the country

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01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:58.519
<v Speaker 2>and Canada. He follows up. He is following up with

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01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:04.199
<v Speaker 2>hospitals and trying to find medical records, doing everything he

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01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:11.639
<v Speaker 2>can to possibly find out who this girl is. She

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01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:21.199
<v Speaker 2>has been dubbed by him and the town as little

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01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Miss Pence Pence off Key, so they've got a name

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01:08:29.560 --> 01:08:33.159
<v Speaker 2>for her. So they think she was five to two,

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01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:37.880
<v Speaker 2>around one hundred pounds, possibly twenty years old. She also

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01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:41.960
<v Speaker 2>had extensive crowns, caps and fillings done. She maybe was

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01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:46.119
<v Speaker 2>a runaway, and they do believe that she'd given birth

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01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:55.199
<v Speaker 2>to at least one child. So that's where on some

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01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:56.319
<v Speaker 2>mysteries leaves.

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<v Speaker 1>Us Okay, I found this interesting because the orthopedic surgery

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01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and her amazing dental care shows that she was active

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01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:11.439
<v Speaker 1>in society in some way, shape or form. So what,

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01:09:12.479 --> 01:09:15.680
<v Speaker 1>if anything, do you have an update for us?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I got an update. Okay, all right. October twenty ninth,

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01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:26.640
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five. Oh, we got a fresh boy. She's

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01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:31.239
<v Speaker 2>been identifying really yep. I watched them press conference.

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01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we were watching earlier when I walked through the

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01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:35.439
<v Speaker 1>living room.

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01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:42.399
<v Speaker 2>Yep. So this county sheriff never let this story go.

1106
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:47.680
<v Speaker 2>They did. They tried to do DNA testing in the

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01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:52.960
<v Speaker 2>early two thousands. They tried fingerprints again. They every little

1108
01:09:52.960 --> 01:09:56.560
<v Speaker 2>while they tried things with her, got to find out.

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01:09:56.640 --> 01:09:59.079
<v Speaker 2>They think that the embalming fluid that they used in

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01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:04.800
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen seventy one one threw off stuff. But the

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01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Sheriff's office got a new system called Storm and it

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01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:16.319
<v Speaker 2>was a new fingerprint system and they ran her original

1113
01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:18.640
<v Speaker 2>They were able to get fingerprints when they pulled her

1114
01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:21.319
<v Speaker 2>out of the water, but it wasn't great. So they

1115
01:10:21.399 --> 01:10:24.920
<v Speaker 2>ran those obviously back in the eighties and multiple times,

1116
01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:30.359
<v Speaker 2>but it just never popped. Plus she'd actually this lady

1117
01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:34.520
<v Speaker 2>had actually been arrested years prior, and those fingerprints hadn't

1118
01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:38.319
<v Speaker 2>gotten put into like the new system until like a

1119
01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:44.199
<v Speaker 2>long time. Anyways, she was identified. She technically was identified

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01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:49.079
<v Speaker 2>in September, but they came out with the information on

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01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:54.880
<v Speaker 2>October twenty ninth. She is known so I'm pulling. I've

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01:10:54.880 --> 01:11:03.520
<v Speaker 2>got the news article up as Marine l Minor Rowan,

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01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:09.720
<v Speaker 2>known as Cookie. She was a mother of two kids

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01:11:11.399 --> 01:11:16.960
<v Speaker 2>and twenty one years old. She was a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what's crazy is that the guy that examined the

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01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:28.600
<v Speaker 1>forensic what do they call the people that look at bones?

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01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:32.479
<v Speaker 1>Now it's like leaving my brain. I can't think of it.

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01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:36.079
<v Speaker 1>It's not an archaeologist. But anyways, the gentleman that was

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01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:40.000
<v Speaker 1>interviewed on self mysteries when they got her re exhumed

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01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and he examined her bones. I mean he said early

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01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:47.520
<v Speaker 1>twenties and had at least had one child.

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01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:51.399
<v Speaker 2>Like, that's incredible. He did a good job from bones.

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01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:57.520
<v Speaker 2>So the police are Her husband is Charles Emory Rowan Senior.

1134
01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:01.119
<v Speaker 2>They had a tumultuous question for that guy. They had

1135
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:07.239
<v Speaker 2>a tumultuous relationship. He is a suspect. Unfortunately, he died

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01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:10.399
<v Speaker 2>in twenty fifteen. I watched the press conference. The police

1137
01:12:10.439 --> 01:12:14.399
<v Speaker 2>don't care that he's dead. They were one of the

1138
01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:16.640
<v Speaker 2>reasons that the press conference is to say, hey, we

1139
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:19.239
<v Speaker 2>finally found her fifty four years later.

1140
01:12:20.520 --> 01:12:24.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean to this give this woman a name, give.

1141
01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Her a name, and they pretty much said, anyone that

1142
01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:31.640
<v Speaker 2>knew her call us. Yeah, And they found her in

1143
01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:36.119
<v Speaker 2>September and when started going around and interviewing people. That's

1144
01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:37.720
<v Speaker 2>how they found him. Who did know?

1145
01:12:37.960 --> 01:12:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Was she from that area?

1146
01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:43.399
<v Speaker 2>That is, she was from Tampa, so not far.

1147
01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:47.039
<v Speaker 1>No, how did no one report this woman missing?

1148
01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:51.039
<v Speaker 2>That is a question everyone has. Obviously the husband, she's

1149
01:12:51.079 --> 01:12:53.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty one, Her kids were clearly done there.

1150
01:12:53.720 --> 01:12:56.680
<v Speaker 1>And they're excluded from that. But not the husband, any

1151
01:12:57.119 --> 01:12:59.039
<v Speaker 1>mother's sister brother, and.

1152
01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Hence why he is a I guess they didn't say

1153
01:13:02.840 --> 01:13:08.039
<v Speaker 2>suspect person of interest. Yeah, okay, And so they're still

1154
01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:11.239
<v Speaker 2>investigating this. They haven't let it go, and I think

1155
01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:14.680
<v Speaker 2>that's great. Obviously it is fifty four years later. The

1156
01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:20.479
<v Speaker 2>husband is now dead, but it didn't identify her. That's

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01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:21.239
<v Speaker 2>great news.

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01:13:21.319 --> 01:13:23.439
<v Speaker 1>It is great news. Good for them for never giving me.

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01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:27.319
<v Speaker 2>This is this part that breaks my heart. Okay. September fifteenth,

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01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:29.520
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two, Sheriff Adams had passed away.

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01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:32.399
<v Speaker 1>No, she never got to never got to see.

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01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:34.279
<v Speaker 2>But if it wasn't for him, it was.

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01:13:34.199 --> 01:13:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Exactly Jane started rolling down a hill because of him,

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01:13:37.960 --> 01:13:40.119
<v Speaker 1>and it would have never concluded he.

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01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Made it a big deal, which kept that case alive,

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01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:47.239
<v Speaker 2>and that sheriff's We need.

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01:13:47.159 --> 01:13:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Sheriffs like him everywhere because there are unidentified remains, hundreds

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01:13:52.720 --> 01:13:56.239
<v Speaker 1>of thousands of them across the United States, and it

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01:13:56.439 --> 01:14:01.760
<v Speaker 1>takes a sheriff like this to push because the funds

1170
01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:04.680
<v Speaker 1>and the resources and all of the technology is there,

1171
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:10.359
<v Speaker 1>but it's got to take somebody who gets a fire

1172
01:14:10.479 --> 01:14:14.239
<v Speaker 1>lit under their tushy and decides that they're not going

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01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:16.560
<v Speaker 1>to let it go till they get these people named.

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01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Good for him, it was important to him. He made

1175
01:14:21.199 --> 01:14:25.720
<v Speaker 2>it important for that department, so that department never really

1176
01:14:25.800 --> 01:14:28.840
<v Speaker 2>let it go. Obviously there's only so much they could do,

1177
01:14:28.920 --> 01:14:32.640
<v Speaker 2>but they clearly kept He was.

1178
01:14:32.600 --> 01:14:34.920
<v Speaker 1>An incredible example to that entire department.

1179
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:38.640
<v Speaker 2>So breaks my heart, But again, if it wasn't for him,

1180
01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:42.039
<v Speaker 2>she would have never been identified. So wonderful that she

1181
01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:47.760
<v Speaker 2>was identified, and that literally less than a year ago

1182
01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:53.079
<v Speaker 2>she was identified and the police are clearly still looking

1183
01:14:53.119 --> 01:14:56.319
<v Speaker 2>into it, and that I mean, I think.

1184
01:14:56.199 --> 01:14:58.960
<v Speaker 1>It's I hope some people come forward because other people

1185
01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:01.319
<v Speaker 1>had to know for a woman to just all of this,

1186
01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:04.479
<v Speaker 1>even if she had to attend church or have.

1187
01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Friend if you did know her. The last time you

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01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:08.680
<v Speaker 2>saw him was fifty four years ago. Even if you

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01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:13.159
<v Speaker 2>were fifteen years old, you were in his sixty seventies. Yeah,

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01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:20.960
<v Speaker 2>so I don't know. I mean, yes, that appears it

1191
01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:24.199
<v Speaker 2>was her husband. Yes, he never reported or missing. Yeah,

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01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:25.479
<v Speaker 2>doesn't identify her.

1193
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Got away with that for his whole life.

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01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:30.039
<v Speaker 2>That's what upsets me. Yeh, So he got away with

1195
01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:30.920
<v Speaker 2>it his whole life.

1196
01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Did you do any research about how the life you lived? No?

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01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I hope it was terrible, but all her poor children.

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01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:43.880
<v Speaker 1>All right, well you guys, that is it. That is

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01:15:43.960 --> 01:15:50.319
<v Speaker 1>our recap of season five, episode five and episode one

1201
01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:52.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred of.

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01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:55.760
<v Speaker 2>The Unsolved Couple, nineteen years.

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01:15:55.279 --> 01:15:59.840
<v Speaker 1>And nineteen years. As Ben said, his contract and obligations

1204
01:15:59.840 --> 01:16:03.560
<v Speaker 1>are fulfilled on both parts. So I might be looking

1205
01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:06.560
<v Speaker 1>for a new podcast host and a new husband soon.

1206
01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:08.560
<v Speaker 2>So send your applications.

1207
01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Send your applications into unsuffable at gmail dot com and

1208
01:16:12.439 --> 01:16:16.239
<v Speaker 1>bed we'll vet them all right. I have a couple

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01:16:16.319 --> 01:16:18.960
<v Speaker 1>of silly would you rather questions before we wrap it up,

1210
01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:21.640
<v Speaker 1>because I'm ready for bed, you're ready for bed, and

1211
01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:24.279
<v Speaker 1>we got to get up early and go on our adventure.

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01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:26.760
<v Speaker 1>You guys, I'm excited. We're going on an adventure tomorrow.

1213
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:28.439
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about it next week. We when and we

1214
01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:33.560
<v Speaker 1>get back. But I planned a silly road trip on

1215
01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:37.640
<v Speaker 1>our way to this family wedding, and I'm excited because

1216
01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I love weird, silly things.

1217
01:16:40.279 --> 01:16:40.760
<v Speaker 2>All right?

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01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So would you rather wear an itchy sweater for

1219
01:16:47.159 --> 01:16:53.960
<v Speaker 1>one hundred days or wet socks for one hundred days?

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01:16:54.399 --> 01:16:57.399
<v Speaker 2>Two things I hate? I know I hate them both

1221
01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:02.479
<v Speaker 2>when whenever I get a haircut, if I get warn

1222
01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:05.680
<v Speaker 2>hair in my collar of my T shirt, it's just

1223
01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:10.000
<v Speaker 2>the back of my neck. So sweater's my mother freaking mind.

1224
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Itchy sweater or wet sox?

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01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Huh. I also hate when my feet get wet. I

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01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:21.119
<v Speaker 2>hate it, I know you do. What's it was? The

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01:17:21.119 --> 01:17:23.920
<v Speaker 2>wet one? Wet sox? For how long?

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01:17:24.079 --> 01:17:26.199
<v Speaker 1>Both for a hundred days? Same time limit.

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01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:30.159
<v Speaker 2>I think I'll take the wet sox.

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01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:32.199
<v Speaker 1>I think I'd have to take the wet sox, so

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01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:34.119
<v Speaker 1>I think I'd get used to that sooner than I

1232
01:17:34.119 --> 01:17:36.840
<v Speaker 1>would get used to an itchy sweater because something. You

1233
01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:38.880
<v Speaker 1>know how I feel about things being on my neck

1234
01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:39.439
<v Speaker 1>too much?

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01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I know, I know.

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01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is an easy one. Would you rather eat

1237
01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:51.560
<v Speaker 1>one hundred pieces of broccoli, or have to eat one

1238
01:17:51.680 --> 01:17:56.079
<v Speaker 1>hundred pieces of candy.

1239
01:17:56.760 --> 01:17:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Let's easey candy. Well, I know.

1240
01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:00.319
<v Speaker 1>I think the thing is is that after you're one

1241
01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:03.479
<v Speaker 1>hundred pieces of candy, how would you feel?

1242
01:18:03.800 --> 01:18:04.159
<v Speaker 2>All right?

1243
01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:07.399
<v Speaker 1>So, but one hundred pieces of broccoli. Maybe the brocket

1244
01:18:07.399 --> 01:18:09.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't taste good, but I bet you're gonna feel fine afterwards.

1245
01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:11.800
<v Speaker 1>If you have to eat like a hundred Snickers bars

1246
01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:15.600
<v Speaker 1>or one hundred pieces of broccoli, you would vomit.

1247
01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:25.479
<v Speaker 2>So so I went to our search and rescue training

1248
01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:29.199
<v Speaker 2>to try to join the team. I didn't cut I

1249
01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:29.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't cut.

1250
01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:30.680
<v Speaker 1>It, that's right.

1251
01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:35.079
<v Speaker 2>So igot about this story. I bowed out it.

1252
01:18:35.159 --> 01:18:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Ben realized real quick that being at thirty and having someone.

1253
01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:41.680
<v Speaker 2>O hould was thirty six.

1254
01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:43.039
<v Speaker 1>Having people scream in your line.

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01:18:43.079 --> 01:18:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I just couldn't cut it.

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01:18:44.039 --> 01:18:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Like, I'm not rock up amountain, I'm not ashamed to

1257
01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:48.800
<v Speaker 1>say that sleep deprivation.

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01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:53.039
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not the toughest individual in the world, right,

1259
01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:57.039
<v Speaker 2>And we'd been sleep deprived. So I had bowed out

1260
01:18:57.479 --> 01:19:03.760
<v Speaker 2>one evening and they don't and I was out of state,

1261
01:19:04.079 --> 01:19:06.000
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, well you don't, you can't leave. You

1262
01:19:06.039 --> 01:19:09.640
<v Speaker 2>have to sleep because you haven't slept, and so they're

1263
01:19:09.640 --> 01:19:11.079
<v Speaker 2>not going to let you leave sleep apart.

1264
01:19:11.119 --> 01:19:13.760
<v Speaker 1>They'll do everything else sleep deprived, but they won't let

1265
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:15.159
<v Speaker 1>you drive back.

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01:19:15.359 --> 01:19:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I'm now they move the participants who have

1267
01:19:21.399 --> 01:19:24.239
<v Speaker 2>bowed out into a different area of the people that

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01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:28.319
<v Speaker 2>are trying to pass this training, and so we're all

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<v Speaker 2>hanging out. It's now chill because up until this point

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01:19:32.640 --> 01:19:37.399
<v Speaker 2>it has been yelling physical activities go. And we've been

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01:19:37.520 --> 01:19:38.439
<v Speaker 2>up for.

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01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Days, not even allowed to use the bathrooms like insane.

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01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:45.720
<v Speaker 2>No. I ended up peeing in a ziploc bag at

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01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:48.199
<v Speaker 2>one point because that was all I had because I

1275
01:19:48.199 --> 01:19:53.359
<v Speaker 2>had to go to the bathroom like this. Yeah, and

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01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:55.640
<v Speaker 2>so I'm about it.

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01:19:55.720 --> 01:19:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I was all of a sudden, then you guys were

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01:19:57.000 --> 01:19:58.279
<v Speaker 1>all on the same plane field.

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01:19:58.039 --> 01:20:02.399
<v Speaker 2>Again, am I heavy cut this out? I'm sitting there

1280
01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:06.479
<v Speaker 2>listening one evening and these guys had come back inside

1281
01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:09.520
<v Speaker 2>from being out there doing all this physical activity like

1282
01:20:09.840 --> 01:20:13.960
<v Speaker 2>training and stuff, and and the only thing we were

1283
01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:18.640
<v Speaker 2>allowed to eat was MRS. But you cannot eat the

1284
01:20:18.760 --> 01:20:20.520
<v Speaker 2>candy in MRS.

1285
01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:23.399
<v Speaker 1>That's the one thing about MRIs is that there's a

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01:20:23.399 --> 01:20:24.279
<v Speaker 1>full size.

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01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:27.319
<v Speaker 2>There's a full sized candy bar or Skittles or something

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01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:29.279
<v Speaker 2>there there is a candy thing.

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01:20:29.399 --> 01:20:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. My dad was in the military, and I remember

1290
01:20:31.159 --> 01:20:33.680
<v Speaker 1>like that, being like, if we could get into his MRIs,

1291
01:20:34.199 --> 01:20:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the candy was gone.

1292
01:20:35.359 --> 01:20:37.439
<v Speaker 2>You're not allowed to have that, or the coffee.

1293
01:20:37.840 --> 01:20:42.960
<v Speaker 1>You ha no caffeine, and sounding worse and worse by this.

1294
01:20:43.199 --> 01:20:45.760
<v Speaker 2>So we're listening. We can hear it because we're in

1295
01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:48.359
<v Speaker 2>we're at a military base, and we're in the barracks.

1296
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Military base was I was not in the military, but

1297
01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:56.199
<v Speaker 2>it was. They were letting us use these barracks. I'm

1298
01:20:56.279 --> 01:21:00.119
<v Speaker 2>listening to this because I can hear it. And they

1299
01:21:00.119 --> 01:21:05.960
<v Speaker 2>made these because someone had said to the instructors about

1300
01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:12.159
<v Speaker 2>how we weren't allowed to have candy. So they were like, oh,

1301
01:21:12.239 --> 01:21:18.319
<v Speaker 2>you guys want candy, all right, And they made everybody

1302
01:21:18.439 --> 01:21:24.159
<v Speaker 2>do wall sits, and they passed out candy and made

1303
01:21:24.199 --> 01:21:30.960
<v Speaker 2>these guys eat multiple candy bars and skittle packets while

1304
01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:35.680
<v Speaker 2>doing wall sits and shove it down as fast as possible.

1305
01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:40.079
<v Speaker 2>And the next morning I'm sitting there and a kid

1306
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:42.399
<v Speaker 2>had bowed out in the morning and he shows up.

1307
01:21:42.439 --> 01:21:44.600
<v Speaker 2>He's like, dude, it was terrible. He's like, I had

1308
01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:49.119
<v Speaker 2>to pound a bag of Skittles while doing a wall sit,

1309
01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:52.720
<v Speaker 2>and then they gave me another thing of candy and

1310
01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:55.159
<v Speaker 2>I had to pound that. He goes it was awful.

1311
01:21:55.439 --> 01:21:56.680
<v Speaker 2>So how do we a candy?

1312
01:21:56.720 --> 01:21:59.960
<v Speaker 1>At first, I'm like, yeah, easy pick, But then you started.

1313
01:21:59.680 --> 01:22:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Thinking when you said it, that's what I was thinking of.

1314
01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:05.279
<v Speaker 1>So what would you do? Broccoli or candy?

1315
01:22:05.439 --> 01:22:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I still do candy. I mean, I guess if there

1316
01:22:07.720 --> 01:22:08.800
<v Speaker 2>was no time limit, I did.

1317
01:22:08.840 --> 01:22:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Can't No, there's no time limit, all right? Would you

1318
01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:16.439
<v Speaker 1>rather sneeze one hundred times in a row or have

1319
01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:19.199
<v Speaker 1>the hiccups for one hundred minutes?

1320
01:22:19.560 --> 01:22:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Cool I? Or know your answer? Hard?

1321
01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Pass on the hiccups. You guys know from previous episodes.

1322
01:22:24.520 --> 01:22:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do a panic mode when I even

1323
01:22:26.680 --> 01:22:29.319
<v Speaker 1>if someone gets the hiccups around me, I start to

1324
01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:32.800
<v Speaker 1>feel like they're contagious and something terrible might happen because

1325
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I am terrified of giving getting permanent hiccups.

1326
01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:41.399
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I would choose sneezes because I actually loved

1327
01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:44.319
<v Speaker 2>the feeling of a sneeze after you get it out. Yeah,

1328
01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:45.560
<v Speaker 2>I love that feeling.

1329
01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I do too, all right, if you had to babysit

1330
01:22:49.800 --> 01:22:53.159
<v Speaker 1>one hundred pets or sorry, one hundred dogs or one

1331
01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:55.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred cats. Which one would you choose?

1332
01:22:55.920 --> 01:23:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my gosh, like cats.

1333
01:23:02.039 --> 01:23:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a lot of litter boxes.

1334
01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:08.920
<v Speaker 2>There's my other story. I'm at a guy. He was

1335
01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:11.880
<v Speaker 2>a strange deck. I worked with him for a little bit.

1336
01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:16.079
<v Speaker 2>It was a different agency when we worked together a

1337
01:23:16.119 --> 01:23:20.479
<v Speaker 2>little bit. He had like thirty cats.

1338
01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I remember they had like a four bedroom house home

1339
01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and telling me.

1340
01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:28.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not making much like you're.

1341
01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Selling like little pieces out of time. You didn't even

1342
01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:33.279
<v Speaker 1>get the full story. It was, like I learned today

1343
01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:38.920
<v Speaker 1>this they this is the guy that was turned used

1344
01:23:39.479 --> 01:23:43.680
<v Speaker 1>kiddie pools as litter boxes in his house, right, he.

1345
01:23:44.359 --> 01:23:49.239
<v Speaker 2>That was his aid work. And then they literally spent

1346
01:23:49.520 --> 01:23:52.800
<v Speaker 2>hours changing litter boxes. And they had like a four

1347
01:23:52.800 --> 01:23:55.520
<v Speaker 2>bedroom house and the whole three bedrooms was.

1348
01:23:55.760 --> 01:23:59.199
<v Speaker 1>Cause no, and I love.

1349
01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I like cats too.

1350
01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to own a retirement. But a catterie is

1351
01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:09.479
<v Speaker 1>not thirty cats but in a home, But.

1352
01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:12.039
<v Speaker 2>A hundred dogs are just as bad, if not worse.

1353
01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Was that guy a looney tune?

1354
01:24:14.359 --> 01:24:18.359
<v Speaker 2>He was a strange duck. He just was strange. I

1355
01:24:18.399 --> 01:24:20.079
<v Speaker 2>don't know, you know what that was kind of as

1356
01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:22.319
<v Speaker 2>far Once he told me that I would think I

1357
01:24:22.439 --> 01:24:25.279
<v Speaker 2>was in so much shock. I didn't know what follow

1358
01:24:25.359 --> 01:24:27.159
<v Speaker 2>up questions to ask.

1359
01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:30.199
<v Speaker 1>No, man are just terrible at follow up questions. Ben

1360
01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:32.720
<v Speaker 1>will come home and it's like, I see reels about this.

1361
01:24:33.119 --> 01:24:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I was out with my buddy. I found out this

1362
01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:38.439
<v Speaker 1>about him. Oh oh, it's like something crazy, like he's

1363
01:24:38.439 --> 01:24:41.960
<v Speaker 1>getting divorced. Oh to this, like da da da da da.

1364
01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:44.680
<v Speaker 1>No follow up questions have ever been asked in a

1365
01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>men's conversation to date.

1366
01:24:47.359 --> 01:24:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Ever, No, we don't.

1367
01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:54.439
<v Speaker 1>You have thirty cats and you have no follow up

1368
01:24:54.520 --> 01:24:55.399
<v Speaker 1>questions to that.

1369
01:24:56.199 --> 01:24:59.079
<v Speaker 2>And thirty I'm not that's not even exaggeration. No, I

1370
01:24:59.119 --> 01:24:59.520
<v Speaker 2>know it's not.

1371
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I remember you coming home and telling me this, But

1372
01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:07.199
<v Speaker 1>that's all I know. Exc Cats, one hundred of either

1373
01:25:07.279 --> 01:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>cats or dogs is going to be a nightmare.

1374
01:25:09.720 --> 01:25:12.560
<v Speaker 2>It's going to stink, but sing to.

1375
01:25:12.560 --> 01:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>Be nearly as loud. They're a lot smaller, they take

1376
01:25:15.399 --> 01:25:17.239
<v Speaker 1>up less space. I'd pick a hundred cats over the

1377
01:25:18.399 --> 01:25:22.640
<v Speaker 1>same place. Yeah, I think that one hundred cats are

1378
01:25:22.680 --> 01:25:25.199
<v Speaker 1>not going to get along one hundred dogs. They're all

1379
01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:27.239
<v Speaker 1>going to be best friends by the end of like

1380
01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:30.920
<v Speaker 1>day one. I don't know about that. Cat talks are

1381
01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>much more cats hate each other most of the time.

1382
01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, everybody, Well that is it. We

1383
01:25:39.800 --> 01:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>are excited to bring you one hundred episodes of unsolved mysteries.

1384
01:25:46.640 --> 01:25:48.439
<v Speaker 1>They'll never have to look up which one of these

1385
01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:50.760
<v Speaker 1>have been solved and which one of them hasn't. And

1386
01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>make sure to join us again next week for episode

1387
01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:57.520
<v Speaker 1>one oh one, or Been and I recap another episode

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01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of Bye
