WEBVTT 1 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:23.519 You know, it's fun to read the newspaper or reads 2 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:28.199 the internet for news on what's going on, and sometimes 3 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:32.119 it validates material that we have here on the podcast. 4 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:36.079 There's an article that came out recently on CNN and 5 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:39.439 that validates our recent guest, Michael Kream. Will remember he 6 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:45.039 was promoting his book Extreme Human Antiquity, and it looks 7 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:49.520 like China has been sitting on a human skull that's 8 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:53.200 over one million years old. Let me repeat that, over 9 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:56.799 one million years old. And up to that time or 10 00:00:56.880 --> 00:01:01.719 up till now, at least the oldest human Homo sapien 11 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:06.719 skeleton that we've had is about three hundred thousand years old. 12 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:12.400 And this is a really, really big indication that we 13 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:14.920 need to sit tight when it comes to dates on 14 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:18.120 skeletal remains because it looks like it's going to get 15 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:21.840 older as well. And this is something that has been 16 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:24.200 of great interest to me as well as many other 17 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:30.879 people in the Anomalist History segment. Hey, this is clip 18 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:33.079 your host of Earth Asients, and we got an article 19 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:38.920 that came out just this morning on CNN and I'm 20 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:42.840 going to post it on the Facebook page but also 21 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:47.319 on notes for this podcast, and what's fascinating. Not only 22 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:51.680 it is a modernist skull, but it really validates what 23 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:56.400 Michael's been researching. Another thing that is known to most 24 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:59.840 people who read Michael's work, especially Forbid in archaeology, is 25 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:03.599 a lot of discoveries were made before the turn of 26 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:08.680 the century and they were chronicled by early archaeologists who 27 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:15.120 wrote articles about bones being found in different strata, some 28 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:19.879 of them found in the cold mime and it needed 29 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:25.039 to have modern analysis to reveal the true age of 30 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:29.639 many of the skeleton remains. But here's what I and 31 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:33.000 I'm going to read this to you just a few paragraphs. 32 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:34.919 This is the article that came out. This is why 33 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:40.319 this is important. A skull unearthed in China challenges the 34 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:46.360 timeline of human evolution. Scientists say a badly crushed cranium 35 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:49.919 on Earth decades ago from a riverbank in central China 36 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:54.639 that once defied classification is now shaking up the human 37 00:02:54.719 --> 00:03:01.800 family tree. According to new analysis, scientists digitally reconstructed the 38 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:05.639 squash skull, thought to be one million years old, and 39 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:08.800 its features suggest that the fossil belonged to the same 40 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:15.599 lineage as a striking specimen called dragon Man and the Denisovans, 41 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:22.120 a recently discovered population of prehistoric humans with murky origins. 42 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:27.960 The skull's age and categorization as a early Denisovan ancestor 43 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:32.639 would mean the group originated much earlier than thought. The researchers. 44 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:37.199 Wider analysis, based on the reconstruction of the more than 45 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:41.400 one hundred other skull fossils, has also sketched a radically 46 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:46.520 different picture of human evolution, they reported Thursday in the 47 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:54.439 journal Science. The results significantly shift the timeline for species 48 00:03:54.800 --> 00:04:01.520 such as our own Homo sapiens and Homo Neanderthalsals archaic 49 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:06.199 humans also lived in Europe and Central Asia before disappearing 50 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:09.599 around forty thousand years ago, are known to have lived 51 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:15.280 alongside the Dignificence and innerbred with them. This changes a 52 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:18.959 lot of thinking because it suggests that by one million 53 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:23.720 years ago, our ancestors had already split into distinctive groups, 54 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:28.319 pointing to a much earlier and more complex human evolutionary 55 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:33.920 split than previously believe, said study co author Chris Springer, 56 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:39.480 paleo anthropologist and research leader in human evolution at London's 57 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:44.800 Natural History Museum, in an email. So that's about as 58 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:46.480 much as I want to read right now, But you 59 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:49.240 can read the whole thing if you go to CNN 60 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:52.560 and punching a skull unearthed in China, or just go 61 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:55.759 to Facebook and you can see all the details under 62 00:04:55.800 --> 00:05:01.759 Earth ancients. Now, remember the the Vedic history of the 63 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:04.560 world is very, very old, and this is why we 64 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:09.879 fall on the cyclic history of Earth through the Yugas. 65 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:14.959 And if you calculate the Yugas, they go into hundreds 66 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:18.600 of millions of years, because there's a continual cycle. And 67 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:23.040 so I personally don't have a problem when Michael says 68 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:28.560 they have found modern humans to live a million years, 69 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:33.000 ten million years, and as much as one hundred million 70 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:37.360 years in the past. Because our world is a cycle. 71 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:42.319 We develop in some cases to a high degree and 72 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:46.959 then we de evolve either through our own huberis could 73 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:51.480 be well, could be bombs, could be disease, could be 74 00:05:52.480 --> 00:06:01.199 some great catastrophe. It could be through outer space some 75 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:06.000 form of sun energy release sun spots that are so 76 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:08.480 powerful that burns everything on the surface of the planet. 77 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:12.279 We don't know, but to say that we're the only 78 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:17.759 ones around. We've always been the high the most sophisticated 79 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:22.639 people that doesn't really ring well. And here on Earth ancients. 80 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:27.560 We find and report on evidence of ancient civilizations that 81 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:32.199 were here before us that have left their remains. Now, 82 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:36.879 every single week, it seems like I find more evidence 83 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:41.560 that the Egyptians, the Pharaohs that are best known, were 84 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:49.519 reusing temples and reusing tomb goods and pyramids. We know 85 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:52.560 if pyramids were not made for tombs, but if they 86 00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:55.240 if the pyramids were made one hundred thousand years ago 87 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:00.040 the civilization was gone, then whoever came back to the 88 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:03.079 area and resettled, they're going to have another purpose for 89 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:05.240 the pyramids. They're going to use it for they have 90 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:10.160 other needs for it, and eventually the most recent group's 91 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:12.800 going to use it for tombs. But this is the 92 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:15.680 kind of the theme, is that we're going to have 93 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:21.040 to dig a little deeper and be open to the 94 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:26.079 possibilities of very early people. And so this is this 95 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:30.600 is a fascinating consideration. So check out that article from 96 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:34.680 CNN and hold your breath, because I think there's more 97 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:42.360 to come. One million year old skeleton. So today's program 98 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:47.319 is a continuation of our support for the first International 99 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:53.160 Congress of Forbidden History, and we have a guest, Marco Baloni, 100 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:58.399 who wrote a book called I Discovered the Real Atlantis. 101 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:04.439 He is an Italian scientists and he has written a 102 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:07.519 couple of books and written an article that he's presenting 103 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:11.439 at the congress. Remember that's October eighteenth of the nineteenth 104 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:17.439 in Milan. For more information, go to Eighth Continentgroup dot 105 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:21.160 com and they're going to offer a streaming program. I 106 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:24.839 think they're only charging five dollars, which is simply amazing 107 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:30.519 because that's nothing for two days of presentations. So go 108 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.720 to the website. Check it out again. It's the first 109 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:38.039 International Congress of Forbidden History October eighteenth and nineteenth. If 110 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:41.080 you're in Italy, check it out in person. They are 111 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.320 I think they have seats for a few hundred people. 112 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:48.919 So you come, you show up, and you enjoy. So 113 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:52.600 we're in support of that program. We've had a couple 114 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:56.080 of other people on the show. The founders are our 115 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:00.919 friend Raphael Eisman, the historian from Chile, as well as 116 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:05.159 some other people. I'd love to have a multi cultural 117 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:10.159 presentation on Earth ancients. We have presenters from all over 118 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:14.720 the world, and I really think that's important to promote. 119 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:20.639 So today's program is I Discovered the Real Atlantis and 120 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:25.399 my guest is Marco Belloni. Hey, we're going to be 121 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:28.679 in the jungle this December first to the twelfth on 122 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:33.600 the Guatemala Sacred Temple Tour, and this is an opportunity 123 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:36.639 not only to climb pyramids, but to interact with the 124 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:40.559 local shaman in understanding what the Maya were up to, 125 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:45.080 their state of mind and ceremony, to connect with the 126 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:48.320 sacred temples and pyramids that will interact with. This is 127 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:52.519 a chance to not only climb pyramids connect with them, 128 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:58.519 but also to take in the spirit and the consciousness 129 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:02.039 that is the the genius of the Maya. If you'd 130 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:05.159 like to join us, go to Earthancients dot com, forward 131 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:08.679 slash Tours and you'll see all the details. To get 132 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:12.159 details on the Guatemala tour, send an email to me 133 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:15.080 at Earth Ancients the number four of the letter you 134 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:18.919 at gmail dot com and join me for a private 135 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:25.679 zoom conference with our hosts Lydia and Arturo di Leong. Again, 136 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:29.919 the Guatemala tour is December first to the twelfth, twenty 137 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:33.600 twenty five. For more information, go to Earth Agents dot com, 138 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:37.039 forward slash Tours or send me an email Earth Agents 139 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:39.559 the number four the letter YOUU at gmail dot com 140 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:42.720 for a discussion on just what we'll be doing. This 141 00:10:42.879 --> 00:11:22.799 tour is perfect for you. Rth Answers is a sponsor 142 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:26.559 of the first International Congress of Forbidden History. It's going 143 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:29.879 to be October eighteenth of the nineteenth. It's going to 144 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:33.480 be held in Italy. But if you're interested in the 145 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:39.519 streaming version, go to Eighth Continentgroup dot com and it'll 146 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:44.679 be streamed an available October thirtieth. And this is a 147 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:49.639 program that our friend Raphael Eisman along with the team, 148 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:53.240 has put together. And my guest today is Marco Bollini. 149 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:58.679 He is the author of the Atlantis Libyrinth and this 150 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:03.120 is a fascinating book simply because he believes and it 151 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:09.799 looks very compelling that he has found the fabled Atlantis 152 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:13.759 in the Ice region of Russia. We're gonna hear all 153 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:16.559 about it and we're gonna get the details. Marco is 154 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:23.679 a nuclear engineer born in Italy and he has had 155 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:26.799 a study and an interest in history and archaeology, mythology 156 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:35.759 and the history of Atlantis. And he lives in Milan 157 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:38.679 and he's coming to us with details of this new 158 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:42.679 book he'll be speaking on I can't remember what had 159 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:45.000 to ask him the eighteenth of the nineteenth as part 160 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:51.799 of this new conference called the First International Congress of 161 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:55.720 Forbidden History. So Marco, welcome to Earth the Ancient is 162 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:57.679 great to have you on the program. 163 00:12:57.919 --> 00:12:59.919 Hello everybody, Hello Cleief. 164 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:04.080 So tell us a little bit about yourself. How did 165 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:08.240 you get interested in Atlantis? It's a myth. We thought 166 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:11.639 I was a myth, but you actually may have found it. 167 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:14.360 How did you get involved in the discovery of this. 168 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:21.279 So, Cliff, Actually, I leaved abroad since I was very young. 169 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:26.440 When I was born. I just left Italy and went 170 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:30.960 in Jordan. Then I went in Nigerily and then in Pakistan, 171 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:34.200 and so I spent the first sixteen years of my 172 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:40.399 life abroad. And during these continuous changes in different countries 173 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:44.559 and the continents, my father was working for a building 174 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:53.000 company and when they were working the ground, many times 175 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:58.840 they found many archaeological finding. So the city is under 176 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:02.200 the ground. And I was a young boy and was 177 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:05.679 fascinated by the fact that the houses were not only 178 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:09.159 over the ground, but they were also under and they 179 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:13.200 were maybe past a thousands year and nobody knew why 180 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:17.759 this happened. So for the whole life I've been fascinated 181 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:24.679 by archaeology and mythology. And another important thing that of 182 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:28.600 which I was interested is the fact that there is 183 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:35.879 a common language between European languages and Indian languages. I 184 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:39.320 was able since I was young eighty years old. I 185 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:44.559 was able to understand people Pakistani people talking in Urdu 186 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:47.360 and I was talking just in Italian, and we were 187 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:51.720 able to understand each other. So when I came in Italy, 188 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:55.159 then I studied this problem and I found that there 189 00:14:55.279 --> 00:15:00.559 is an important hypothesis of a common origin of the 190 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:06.519 Indo Europeans languages. So the scientists think that there was 191 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:10.360 maybe a place, a commonplace in which people were living together, 192 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:14.039 or maybe they were just so near and so close 193 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:17.519 one to each other that they were able to understand 194 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:21.240 each other and the language was just one. This happened 195 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:25.279 thousands years ago, but nobody knows where. So I was 196 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:32.600 fascinated by these important solution, and so I tried to 197 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:38.480 understand or continue to look at new archaeological findings, new 198 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:43.320 discoveries in order to study this problem. And during my 199 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:48.600 continuous research researches, I found a place in the north 200 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:57.120 of Europe which had many interesting and fascinating buildings towers, walls, 201 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:03.840 and none of us was able to know this place 202 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:07.200 because there are no many tourists going there and visit 203 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:13.000 this place. So when I saw these archaeological findings, actually 204 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:21.600 I reminded the meat of Athleanties written by Plato, and 205 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:27.080 so I started to study it. I used the story 206 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:30.720 of Plato, and I divided the story in arguments, and 207 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:36.960 for each argument presented by Plato, I tried to understand 208 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:40.279 if this place was possible to find what he was looking, 209 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:46.519 what it was explaining, And I found so many informations 210 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:49.200 that at the end of my studies, after three years 211 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:53.480 of studies and for travels done in the place, I 212 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:57.639 decided to write a book. So my idea was not 213 00:16:58.519 --> 00:17:06.400 to study the Atlantis meat, but I have been completely 214 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:12.000 fascinated by the place in which I found all these findings. 215 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:14.880 So Marco, let me ask you, so, when did you 216 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:21.480 begin thinking that Plato's myth of Atlantis was a real place? 217 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:25.039 Was it like a five years ago, ten years ago. 218 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:31.519 No, during two thousand and seven, so seventeen years ago. 219 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:36.480 Seventeen years ago, yes, And in your research you began 220 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:39.240 looking for geological locations. 221 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:42.319 What was the. 222 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:49.359 Compelling evidence that you found in the Soviet region that 223 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:52.000 made you think that that was where Atlantis was. 224 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:58.680 So the first important thing was the fact that I 225 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:06.440 have used that. There were many evidences regarding details described 226 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:12.359 by Plato. For example, Plato talks about an acropolis which towers, 227 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:17.559 big towers and big walls made of stones. And in 228 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:22.680 this place there is a major monastery that the history 229 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:27.359 Russian history tells us that have been built by monks 230 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:33.519 during the sixteenth century after Christ. And my opinion is 231 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:40.200 that the monks actually found the ruins of a presisting 232 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:47.680 structure and they just recovered it, so they did not 233 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:52.599 build everything from zero, but they found it destroyed. So 234 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:59.799 this was my first information and I decided to continue 235 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:09.079 that is, using satellite views USINGSA data. So the NASA 236 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:13.519 at the time was the only one that was possible 237 00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:19.039 to use because actually Google did not work so well 238 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:27.200 as today. So we using NESA word wind, I analyzed 239 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:30.880 all the details of the territory and I found a 240 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:35.200 structure which had a central mountain in the middle of 241 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:39.519 the island. I measured the dimensions of the island, and 242 00:19:39.559 --> 00:19:44.880 the dimension were exactly the one described by Plato. Plato 243 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:48.799 says that the island had a radius of fifty study, 244 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:53.480 which is nine kilometers. According to many measurements, the diameter 245 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:57.480 of the island was eighteen kilometers. So this was the 246 00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:02.480 first important thing. Then I tried to emphasize the structure 247 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:09.279 of the territory, and I found also a possible localization 248 00:20:09.519 --> 00:20:15.759 of the circular rings of which Plato talks about top 249 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:19.079 Plato talks about rings of water off the sea and 250 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:23.480 of land, and so there is a structure which resembles 251 00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:28.880 the decision of Plato. But of course the island has 252 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:33.200 been destroyed, and so not any place is possible to 253 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:39.880 visit to see this symmetrical structure. But in some places 254 00:20:39.880 --> 00:20:44.079 of the island this is possible. So I continued all 255 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:48.279 my researches. I've done a list of hundred items, and 256 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:53.400 I went on the island without talking Russia, without talking English, 257 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:57.039 because nobody was able to understand anything ex a Russia. Yeah. 258 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:01.119 Yeah, So let's write people, let's just say where it is. 259 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:07.319 It's it's in Solovetski Acapello, which is in uh it's. 260 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:09.559 In the middle of the White Sea, the. 261 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:15.079 Middle of the White Sea. Yes, and so describe and 262 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.200 you're doing a good job of it. Describe what Plato 263 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:24.119 presents as what uh Atlantis looks like, and the similarities 264 00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:28.000 of the acapello that you're telling us is Atlantics. 265 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:34.960 Yes, yes, there are. There are many elements described by 266 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:39.720 Plato that can be seen on the island. Of course, 267 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:44.200 the first important thing is the presence of this major monastery, 268 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:52.920 as I told Plato tsic about the acropolis. On the acropolis, 269 00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:58.240 Plato talks about the temple devoted to Pos eight on 270 00:21:58.559 --> 00:22:01.480 the King of the Sea. It gives us some measures. 271 00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:06.119 He says that the temple of Oozidon was one hundred 272 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:11.440 and eighty meters per ninety meters, and these are exactly 273 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:17.039 the measurements that you can measure inside in the internal 274 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:20.759 part of the acropolis. So there are walls that are 275 00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:28.839 rectangular and exactly these dimensions. Plato talks about a small 276 00:22:28.920 --> 00:22:34.319 island in which the king lived, which was five stadia 277 00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:38.200 diameter less than nine hundred meters, And in the island 278 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:43.119 you can find the ruins of walls that are at 279 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:46.759 a distance of nine hundred meters from the cropolis. So 280 00:22:46.839 --> 00:22:50.480 the acropolis was in the center of a very small island, 281 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:55.039 which was the King's island. Then a Plata talks about 282 00:22:55.799 --> 00:23:01.079 a giant island with these circular rings, which was fifty 283 00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:06.200 stadia in radios, which means eighteen kilometers in diameters, and 284 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:13.359 you can measure exactly these dimensions. So there is circulear island, 285 00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:19.519 which is Solovatski Island, which has this structure and this symmetry. 286 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:29.519 Then Plato talks about also represents a giant plane which 287 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:36.359 was five thousand stadia per three thousand stadia, which means 288 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:42.640 nine hundred kilometers for five hundred kilometers. Most of the 289 00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:49.640 researchers up to now interpreted these evidence of the plane 290 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:56.680 as a giant island. But studying very deeply the description 291 00:23:56.839 --> 00:24:01.759 of Plato, it is possible to understand that this plane 292 00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:04.319 was in front of the island. It was not in 293 00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:08.039 the island, So the island was eighteen kilometers and in 294 00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:11.119 front of the island was a giant plane of nine 295 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:16.680 hundred kilometers. This giant plane is a Karelian plane which 296 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:21.799 is near Finland, between Finland and Solavski Island. So there 297 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:28.160 are many elements, and of course the dimensions described a 298 00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:32.240 Plato that can be measured by everybody, so you can 299 00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:37.519 find many elements that are absolutely coherent with the description 300 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:38.279 of Platum. 301 00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:42.000 Now, one of the things that I found was very compelling, 302 00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:49.000 are actual ruins You actually show archaeological ruins of buildings 303 00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:53.599 and things, Yes, and have any of these. First of all, 304 00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:55.960 let me ask you this, how did you get it 305 00:24:56.119 --> 00:25:00.319 permission to go to Russia as an Italian? Because as 306 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:02.640 most people can't go to that part of the world, 307 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:03.480 how did you get in? 308 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:08.400 No? No, at that time. Actually, now maybe it is 309 00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:11.519 very difficult to go. I don't know if it is 310 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:14.960 simple to enter in Russia. But at that time it 311 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:19.319 was possible to visit Russia as a tourist. So my 312 00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:26.920 visa was just for tourism and just to visit the island. 313 00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:30.759 So this has been possible. Everybody can go, of course 314 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:36.519 and visit it. Another important information is that Solovetski Island 315 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:42.960 was the first gulag of the history of Russia. So, 316 00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:49.480 for example, Alexander s Jenisin has been jailed in Solovetski 317 00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:54.160 Island and when he wrote Archipelago Gulag, he was talking 318 00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:58.119 about Slovatski. You can find in his book the same 319 00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:01.160 photos that I have done in my book, because it 320 00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:07.319 presents this island as an island in which it's very 321 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:12.039 difficult to leave and escape. So this is the reason 322 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:18.279 why became the first jail of history of the Russian history, 323 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:22.400 and according to me, was exactly the same reason why 324 00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:30.839 the kings of Atlantis decided to build this structure in 325 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.519 the island, because it was very difficult to reach it 326 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.279 in the middle of the White Sea. It is not 327 00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:37.400 so to arrive. 328 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:43.400 So tell us some of the characteristics of Slovsky Island. 329 00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:47.000 That is, I mean, you've given us a sense of it. 330 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:54.079 Where for our listeners, where is it located geologically, geographically, 331 00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:57.039 geographically in other words, where do we give us some 332 00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:59.960 landmarks so we can get a sense of where it's 333 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:01.200 located in the ocean. 334 00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:06.640 Yes, you should look at the map of Europe. You 335 00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:13.400 just go to the north and arrive at the Finland latitude. 336 00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:16.960 Then you just go a little bit on the right 337 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:22.079 you will find a Karelia plane and then the White 338 00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.240 Sea in the middle of the White Sea. Because nobody 339 00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:29.359 studies the White Sea because it is Russian and is 340 00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:35.079 not European. So we talk about the giant continent Russia, 341 00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:40.440 but nobody knows that there is an important sea which 342 00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:45.160 is in connection with the Arctic Sea in the Barren Sea, 343 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:48.720 in the north, so it is these island are not 344 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:54.039 far from the polar circle. And this is very important 345 00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:58.559 in my study because I give an importance to the 346 00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:04.359 fact that those latitudes during the nights in the winter, 347 00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:14.559 all the all the stars just rotate all over the horizon, 348 00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:20.799 so like an umbrella. So this should have fascinated our 349 00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:26.000 ancestors and maybe decided that that place was a holy 350 00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:31.799 place devoted to Atlas. The Atlas was the giant who 351 00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:37.200 sustained the whole heaven. So there are many elements in 352 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:43.640 mythology that become maybe a real history in those places 353 00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:44.880 at those latitudes. 354 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.079 Okay, you given us a sense of the island according 355 00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:52.319 to Plato, with the concentric circles, the canals and the 356 00:28:53.920 --> 00:29:00.680 various landmarks. We're gonna take a short our show break 357 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:04.799 to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will 358 00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:10.319 return shortly with my guest today, Marco Boloney discussing his 359 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:18.799 latest book, I Discovered the Real Atlantis. We'll be right 360 00:29:18.839 --> 00:30:01.720 back earth the Ancients to support and sponsoring the first 361 00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:07.640 International Congress of Forbidden History, and my guest today, Marco Boloni, 362 00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:12.480 is one of the keynote speakers. His topic based on 363 00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:22.839 His research is called I Discovered the Real Atlantis. Tell 364 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:28.240 us about the various destructions that are featured in Plato's 365 00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.240 and his work and how that relates to the island. 366 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:41.839 Yes, the destruction of Ireland is another controversial element that 367 00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:46.640 has been studied by researchers up to now, and most 368 00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:52.599 of the researchers have concluded that the highland was completely 369 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:57.160 destroyed and was under the sea, so it was not 370 00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:03.440 possible to visit it and see it. For example, as 371 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:10.799 many researchers decided that Atlas Atlantis was in the middle 372 00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:15.640 of the Atlantic Ocean, but it was not possible to see. 373 00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:20.200 Many decided that it was in the Mediterranean and so 374 00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:24.279 maybe it was Santorini that exploded with the volcano, so 375 00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:27.480 it is not possible to visit it. But Plato did 376 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:32.440 not say this. Plato rights, in need a description of 377 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:37.759 the island that the island went under the water, but 378 00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:43.720 then it appeared again, and Plato says that up today 379 00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.680 it is very difficult to navigate around the island. So 380 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:52.079 this means that the island was still present and existed 381 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:58.319 when Plato wrote this history. Plato said that on the island, 382 00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:01.240 nobody was able to live on the island, but only 383 00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:05.279 bees and animals. So he talks about something which is 384 00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:11.559 evident and present. Plateau says that are still visible today 385 00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:16.960 the ruins of all the sanctuaries that have been built 386 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:23.720 near the waters. So he talks about something which is visible, 387 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:28.440 which is physically present, and it is not under the sea. 388 00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:34.119 So according to my reconstruction and my idea, the island 389 00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:40.000 has been destroyed, but a giant tsunami, probably arriving from 390 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:44.319 the Barren Sea, so the north the Arctic Sea entered 391 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:48.720 in the canal that connects the Y Sea with the 392 00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:52.240 Barren Sea, and there's been a completely destroyed. So those 393 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:56.119 who saw the island they exactly so that the island 394 00:32:56.599 --> 00:33:00.880 went under the water, but then the island was able 395 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:05.519 to come up again, completely destroyed. And if you just 396 00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:14.720 look at the Solovetski shores, they are completely destroyed. You cannot. 397 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:18.039 It is very difficult to make a tour around the 398 00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:22.200 Solovetzki island. You have to take hours and hours because 399 00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:26.319 it is full of mens, so it is not very 400 00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:31.279 simple to Also, the island is full of marches. There 401 00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:34.680