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My Pylon. Of course, it's Western college football teams in

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the Western United States. The big story obviously UCLA's upset

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over Penn State. We're gonna get to that one, save

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it for the featured slot on the show, but first

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let's do the rundown. Just of all the teams that

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were in action from the West, Fresno State ekes out

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a too close for comfort victory over a not very

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good Nevada team. So don't know what to make of

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Fresno State. You won some close games but against not

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very good teams. Don't know what to make of the

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Bulldogs this season. Boise State gets handled by Notre Dame.

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Scores just seven points against what has been a very

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bad Notre Dame defense, So really the bloom is off

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the rose for Boise State this season. Coach Spencer Danielson

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had a magnet dificent debut in twenty twenty four, but

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we can see just how much Ashton genty meant to

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that program, and without him, it's been a very difficult

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adjustment for the Broncos. So, you know, the Mountain West,

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it's becoming clearer and clearer. Not going to have the

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Group of Five champion. It's going to come from one

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of the teams in the American Conference. You know, it

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is true that San Diego State looked pretty good, but

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looked pretty good against a not very good Colorado State team.

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So how much stock can you put into that? The

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Mountain West is going through a down year? And of course,

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this iteration of the Mountain West, it's not going to

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exist next season with the new new look PAC twelve

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and all of the different realignment dominoes officially tumbling. You know,

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the agreements have been made, but next year we get

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the different landscape in the PAC twelve, the Mountain West.

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So the Mountain West it's not going out with a bang,

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it's going out with a whimper in twenty twenty five.

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The less set about the Mountain West the better at

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this point, just not making any sort of national splash.

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And speaking of that, in the ACC Stanford was idle.

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So Stanford didn't lose. Cal did lose. Col gets whacked

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at home by Duke. That's a late night game in Berkeley.

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So you know, Cal face planeted against San Diego State

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in a thirty four and ahing loss. Was that going

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to be an aberration or was that a sign of

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continued erosion? And then we have our answer. Cal ultimately

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not very good. The Golden Bears are going to have

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a middle of the pack season, So their bright start

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it wasn't really an indicator of an upboard surge. It

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seemed for a point that Cal might have a really

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favorable schedule, a chance to do some damage, don't. They

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just do not have the studs in the stable needed

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to make a significant charge up the ACC leader board.

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So Cal is mediocre and is going to remain mediocre

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at least for this season. That they need a lot

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more dudes in Berkeley, especially on the defensive side of

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the ball. Duke hanging forty five on the Golden Bears

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in Berkeley late at night. You know, Cal pushed Miami

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last season, but that was with Fernando Mendoza, who's now

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of course at Indiana. So Cal you could you could

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even say has slipped to a certain degree from last season.

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Stanford in the again IDOL so that covers the ACC

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Bay Area schools. Oregon State, you know, the two pack

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the PAC twelve before the reinforcements come in next year,

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has alluded to earlier. Oregon State still winless under coach

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Trent Bray, that's a dire situation. Oregon State was playing

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from behind most of the way against app Blaction State

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fought hard but still lost a close one. And it

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just seems that Oregon State is losing all the close

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ones this season. Lost a close one to Houston in overtime,

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that I didn'tdirectly referred to earlier. Oregon State just can't

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get over the hump, and it continues against Apple Achian State.

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The Beavers still winless through week six. Not a pretty

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scene in Corvallis, the Big Twelve part of the Western

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United States. Arizona State in Utah didn't play Arizona had.

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Arizona didn't technically have an off week, but it was

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a football game, which is as close to having an

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off week as possible without not playing, and that is

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hosting Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State the worst Power for conference team,

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was as easy as everyone expected it to be. So

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tougher for Arizona in the second half of the season,

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ceiling is. But the floor is happily higher than a

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lot of folks had feared. There was some skepticism about

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where this team was early in September. Brent Brennan is

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at least getting Arizona to take care of business in

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the games where it ought to handle its business. So

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that's something. But now we get to see how high

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Arizona can climb in the Big twelve. Colorado another loss

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to TCU, and you know, first off, we wish Deon

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Sanders a full recovery. He's continuing to deal with blood clots.

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He revealed that after the TCU game, So you know,

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Coach Prime's health comes first and that is what's most important.

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So we want to hold him in our thoughts in

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prayers here and get off my pylon. Just allow us

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to digest that point first and foremost. On the field,

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Colorado is a mess at quarterback, just interceptions, mistakes, just

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not being able to make improvements, not being able to

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be a more precise, detail oriented team. That game turned

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for Colorado. It was tied in the fourth quarter and

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a punt just hits a Colorado player in the back.

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he turns his back to the ball. It just hits

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him squarely in the back. TCU recovers the ball near

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the Colorado thirty, goes into score, takes the lead, and

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ultimately wins by fourteen on a very very late touchdown.

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And that was one of our friends in the desert moments.

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A really bad beat if you had Colorado plus the

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thirteen and a half. But Colorado just not tending to

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details this season and so just the on field product,

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massive regrets from Shadur and Travis Hunter, as a lot

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of people expected. So Colorado. It's a grim time all

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around in Boulder. Now we go to the Big Ten,

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which is really where just about all the notable and

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major action is in western college football. Oregon plays Indiana

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this coming weekend. That's a huge game. We also have

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Michigan and USC cutting up this weekend. That's another monster game.

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We're definitely going to have more on those in a

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bed as we look ahead to week seven. But now

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we get to the really big story and we'll throw

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in also Washington was down twenty to three to Maryland

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and the Husky score twenty one points in the fourth

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quarter in College Park to beat Maryland. They look dead

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for three quarters, the Huskies rise from the ashes somehow

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beat Maryland. This is a crazy fact. Maryland under coach

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Mike Loxley oh to ten after week in season, weeks off.

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That is absolutely insane. But Washington able to create that

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oh and ten record for Maryland coming off an idle

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week under Locksley with that twenty one point fourth quarter

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in College Park. Now we get to the big one

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from week six. Ucla forty two Penn State thirty seven.

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It's a game that we're going to be talking about

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for a long time. It's a game that we certainly

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can't stop talking about from a UCLA perspective. I was

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following this game closely. Where do we start now that

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this game had everything, and I just want to kind

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of to enable people to appreciate how wild this game was.

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Let's just reel off several incredible facts about this game.

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So one game had all of these details. In one

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one game, Intend contained all of these facts. The team

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that scored thirty points in the second half lost Penn

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State scored thirty in the second half still lost the game.

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That's pretty wild. Five teams in James Franklin's tenure at

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Penn State have put up at least four hundred thirty

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yards against a Franklin coached Penn State defense, and UCLA

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is one of them. UCLA has one of five teams

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to put four to thirty on a James Franklin Penn

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State defense. And just think UCLA was owned four offensive

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line look pathetics. UCLA scored just fourteen points the week

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before against Northwestern. This came from absolutely nowhere, you know, like,

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not one soul, not one logical person could have possibly

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predicted this, But it happened now in terms of the

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coming from nowhere logically, yes, but also it did come

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from somewhere, and that is UCLA interim head coach Tim

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Skipper sacking his previous failed offensive coordinator Tino Cinceri. You

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know who was Deshaun Foster's guy, and he puts in

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Jerry new Heiel, former UCLA quarterback son of former UCLA

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Rose bull winning quarterback and then former UCLA head coach

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Rick new Heisl, who was in the CBS studio cheering

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on his son Jerry new Heiseel, come in, comes in,

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and this is his first game as the offensive play

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car for UCLA, all right, and and so that is

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where the upset came from. But like no one could

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have predicted that a first time offensive play car would

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be this good right out of the gate in his

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in his first game. So UCLA puts four hundred and

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thirty on a Penn State defense, one of only five

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teams in over a decade. Franklin's been at Penn State

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over a decade. And this this UCLA team zero to four. Uh,

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you know, I thought UCLA was headed for an zero

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to twelve season. This UCLA team, this UCLA offense puts

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four thirty on a James Franklin Penn State demons. Just

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absolutely crazy. So you have this fact, an interim head coach,

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Tim Skipper beat James Franklin, who made the playoffs semis

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last year, has won multiple New Year's Six Bowls, has

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won a Big Ten championship. You know, James Franklin for all,

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and we're going to get into his flaws for sure,

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but he regularly wins ten games a season. Like Tim

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wins a lot of games and who has been good

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at winning the games he's supposed to win. You know,

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James Franklin can't beat the top ten, but he does

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beat regularly the teams he's supposed to beat. And this

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was a this was a you know, a change from

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that familiar script. So that also makes it pretty remarkable.

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More on Jerry Neuheisel, you know, making his debut as

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a play caller. He doesn't just have a great game

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in isolation. He out coached Jim Knowles, the football lifer.

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has been successful in so many different places in a

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long and very prosperous and lucrative career. Jerry Neuheisel, thirty

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three years old, out coached a guy who's twenty seven

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years older and has so much more experience in the industry.

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That's pretty wild. And then also, Jerry Newheisel was a

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position coach until he got promoted to offensive coordinator this week,

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so he's at the bottom of the salary pyramid. And

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the guy he out coached, Jim Knowles, he's making roughly

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three point one million in overall compensation at Penn State.

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He's the highest compensated defensive coordinator in the whole college

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football universe, the whole college football industry. So you didn't

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just have guys at the at opposite ages, opposite ends

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of the age spectrum thirty three versus sixty. You have

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guys at the total opposite ends of the salary spectrum.

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point one million, and you you couldn't have guessed which

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guy was the older, more experienced coordinator and which guy

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was making the three point one million dollar salary. Just

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just absolutely crazy that Jerry Neuheisel outflanked Jim Knowles this badly. Also,

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you know, from a betting perspective, Ucla was a twenty

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four point five point underdog. The line actually opened at

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twenty five point five. It was interesting that the line

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moved down a point during the week. Maybe there was

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just some you know, skepticism about Penn State having a

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hangover effect from the loss to Oregon instead of being motivated.

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Boy that that instinct, if you had it, if you

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had UCLA plus the twenty four and a half, you

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were definitely right because Penn State instead of being fired up,

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was just the opposite, just asleep at the wheel. And

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what did we see right out of the game. We

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had UCLA kicking a successful on side kick. It was

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a little chip kick across the field to the far side.

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The Penn State up men they just left their position,

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They left their post early, so they were just in

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in zombie mode. They were just drifting through the motions,

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not focused, you know, not really concentrating. And boy Tim

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Skipper and the UCLA staff, they they saw that on

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film and they pounced instantly. So that's why UCLA was

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able to get a ten to nothing lead before Penn

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State's offense even took the field. Still, A just was

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able to control the ball for most of the first quarter,

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and that, you know, that kept UCLA's defense off the field.

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You know, if if UCLA does a regular kickoff there

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at seven to nothing about five and a half minutes

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in the game, you know, Penn State's offense was not

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the problem for the Nidney Lions. Penn State scores thirty seven,

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the offense scores thirty five. Ucla took a safety late

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in the game. More on that later, but just Penn

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State's offense not getting enough snaps in the first half.

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That played a crucial role in UCLA being able to

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build that early lead. So Tim Skipper just ran rings

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around James Franklin tactically. Also part of the crazy nature

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of this game. Here's another amazing fact, and my friend TJ.

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Reeves gave me this one. UCLA was zero to four,

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as you know, and was going up against a top

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ten opponent. Obviously Penn State no longer in the top ten,

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but we're talking about at the time of the game.

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At the time of kickoff, Penn State was of course

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in the top ten, ranked number seven. So with the

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UCLA's win, this is the first time a team with

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a record of oh to four or worse beat an

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opponent that was ranked in the top ten. First time

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that's happened since nineteen eighty six. The first time this

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has happened in thirty nine years, team oh and four

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or worse beats an opponent ranked in the top ten.

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In nineteen eighty six, number seven BYU lost to Owen

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six texasl Passo. That's Owen six UTEP nineteen eighty six.

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So first time in thirty nine years that we've had,

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you know, a team at the very bottom of college

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football beating an opponent in the top ten. Another absolutely

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astonishing fact to digest from this result. Now, you might

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have seen a tweet on Saturday about this. Uh, someone

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named Chris Muller tweeted, you steal a interim Tim Skippers

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now tie with James Franklin with one career Top ten

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win against a Big ten opponent. That's what was tweeted out.

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And actually that was tweeted out on Sunday. That's not correct, Okay,

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James Franklin has two career top ten wins against Big

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ten opponents. So it was really kind of funny that

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people were saying, Oh, come on, you're incorrect. Why are

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you playing so loose with the facts, Why are you

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being so careless and lazy? All of that is accurate

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and true, and yet and yet the larger point of

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the tweet that it was inaccurate. But the larger point

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still stands. Tim Skipper in his first crack at a

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top ten ranked Big Ten opponent wins. So that's half

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of all the top ten Big ten wins that James

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Franklin's had in over a decade at Penn State. It

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really does put this in perspective, it's a pretty remarkable

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thing to digest. More more crazy facts about this game,

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Nico Iamaliyava does something which hadn't been done in twenty

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five years. He became the first UCLA quarterback to rush

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for at least one hundred and twenty yards and at

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least three touchdowns in a game since the year two

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thousand and Nico iam Maliyava was spectacular, showed what he

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can do. Obviously, Jerry Newheisel's play cind helped. The other

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thing we have to mention ucl A's offensive line. This

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offensive line got out played by Northwestern's defensive line. Where

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did that come from? You know, so we can talk

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about Jerry Newheizel only should, right, He had a brilliant debut,

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His father Rick and the CBS studio was just over

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the moon, and it was. It was a wholesome family moment.

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But really, the real story of this game's offensive front

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contained Penn State's defensive front. You know, there were a

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few sacks for Penn State, but not a ton and

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u Stile was able to consistently moved the ball throughout

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the game. Twenty seven points in the first half, fifteen

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in the second. So like there was never a point

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at which Penn State really stonewalled UCLA and just kind

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of kept kept this game in the Nittney Lions favor.

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You know, Penn State obviously got close, but it never

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got over the hump u Cilia was always able to

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move the ball when it needed to, with the sole

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exception of that failed fourth down very late in the game.

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That was the one time when the UCLA slipped up.

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But really, you know, so UCLA's offense made very few mistakes.

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It was able to finish drives. Obviously the forty two

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points and that tells yous UCLA was getting sevens more

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than threes, and you know, was able to get into

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the red zone and finish drives instead of settling for

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field goals. That obviously made a really big difference. And

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just one last thing to absorb about this game in

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terms of all the crazy facts and figures and realities

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that emerged from it, just consider this was one game,

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one football game. It had all of these elements, had

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an interim coach and a first time offensive coordinator. And

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when I say first time offensive coordinator for Jerry Neuheisel,

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I'm not talking about first season I'm talking about first game.

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This was his first game of the season as an

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offensive coordinator, So interim coach, first game offensive coordinator on

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a winless team beating a top ten opponent, Penn State.

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And this game had a successful on side kick which

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I referenced earlier. It also had a block punt for

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a touchdown That was Penn State blocking a punt for

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a touchdown when it made that push in the second half.

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And there was a safety, UCLA taking a safety at

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the end. So interrum coach, first game offensive coordinator, winless

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team beating a top ten opponent in a game which

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had a successful on side kick, blockpunt for a TD

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and a safety. How many other games in the whole

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history of college football have had that? And keep in

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mind the history of college football is now over one

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hundred and fifty five years. How many other games have

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had that? So as you as you listen to this

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show here on, get off my pilon, you know, if

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you have a Sports Reference or the Elias Sports Bureau

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to consult, how long will it take you to find

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another game which had all of those components like this

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was certainly one for the history books, to be sure.

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Let's talk about that safety at the end, because it

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just reinforced how poorly James Franklin coached this game for

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Penn State and how small Martlee Tim Skipper coached this

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game as the interim for UCLA. So we talked about

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how at the beginning UCLA completely snookered Penn State on

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this successful on side kick. Penn State was just sleepy, drowsy,

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drifting through the motions. It was the same thing at

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the end of the game. So like it reinforced the

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notion that from start to finish, without many interruptions in between,

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UCLA was out Uclea's interim patchwork staff. Remember UCLA sacked

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it's both its coordinators during the off week that it

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had in September. UCLA's patchwork interim staff made James Franklin,

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Jim Knowles and the rest of the Penn State staff,

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you know, point in all of these high salaries. UCLA's

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patchwork interim staff made Penn State's coaching staff look amateurish.

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And the safety was another part of this. So let's

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reset UCLA having the ball round its own twenty with

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twenty five seconds left forty two thirty five. I thought

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at the time, you know in real time that yes,

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Utilia should take a safety. You would think that James

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Franklin would know this right, You'd think that he would

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anticipate that UCLA was gonna take a safety. But you

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know what, James Franklin and Penn State did not rush

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the UCLA punter, and the UCLA punter then then that

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the snap was from the right hashmark. Okay, So the

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UCLA punter takes the snap and he goes into the

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back right corner of the end zone. If the UCLA

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punter had gone to the far side of the field

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toward the left hash and all the way over to

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the left corner of the end zone, he actually could

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have used up four or five more seconds than he

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actually did. But even then, because Penn State was not

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rushing the punter, UCLA was able to use eight whole

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seconds on that one punt. So got the clock from

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twenty five down to seventeen. Like, that's worth two plays.

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That's worth two plays and with that little time left,

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that's a great outcome for UCLA and Penn State was

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just a sleep at the switch. And then of course

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the kickoff and UCLA obviously is able to kick the

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ball off from the twenty that you know the punter

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on the take. When taking the safety, the punter was

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standing near the goal line, so obviously that's part of

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why you take the safety. Right, You're not only using

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up a few extra seconds, but then you get some

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field position, you get some relief. Because the free kick

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is from the twenty. The Penn State return man on

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the kickoff fielded the ball at the eight, he got

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it out to about the thirty seven, and that used

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five more seconds. So really UCLA used thirteen seconds from

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the start of that fourth down punt attempt which became

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a safety, to the end of the free kick thirteen

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seconds twenty five down to twelve. So Penn State had

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the ball at its own thirty seven with just twelve

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seconds left. That's three plays maximum could be just two plays,

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and you know, the Nitney Lions were not able to

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do anything. So it was certainly the right chess move

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by UCLA and its interim coach Tim Skipper, But it's

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also just so noticeable that James Franklin was not anticipating

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any of it. Just an absolutely appalling coaching performance part

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of a game that, again we're not gonna forget anytime. Soon.

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I think just about everyone who follows college football, not

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just in the Big Ten and not just in the West,

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you know where I am. I would say this is

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the most stunning upset to date of the twenty twenty

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five college football season. And so Penn State pretty much

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out of the playoff. I mean, if Penn State can

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somehow find a way to run the table, yeah, the

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ninte allions would be in. But who thinks Penn State's

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running the table. Who thinks this team's running the table?

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Who thinks this team is going to beat both Indiana

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and Ohio State, not to mention the other middle tier

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Big Ten games on this schedule. It's going to be

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hard for Penn State to pull that off. So the

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playoff configuration definitely change changes a lot after this Penn

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State loss. So that's that was the big story of

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Week six. And now we turn our attention to two

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really big games in Week seven. Let's start with the

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Michigan USC. So you know I follow USC. Of course

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that Trojan's Wire and USC had this past week off,

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so we were all watching Michigan. Michigan looked bad against Wisconsin.

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This is a this is an awful Wisconsin team, and

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Michigan won by just fourteen. And the thing is that

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fourteen point margin twenty four to ten, that pretty much

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reflected how close the game was. This was not a blowout.

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Michigan's offense legitimately struggled. Receivers are struggling to catch the ball.

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Bryce Underwood doesn't have it all figured out. He's he's

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throwing some passes too hard. Calibrating the right touch to

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put on a ball is still a little elusive for him.

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Sharon Moore, this is thing that. Now this is a

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this is a Michigan thing, so it's not really under

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my get off my pilot umbrella. But I'm you know,

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I'm looking at Michigan as a scouting report for USC.

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When Charon Moore is not on the sidelines, you know,

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due to to tous suspension, Michigan usually makes better coaching decisions.

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Charon Moore punted in this game when he had like

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three inches to make a first down. It was on

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like his own twenty five yard line. But Michigan should

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never think that it can't make three inches against anyone,

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but especially against a weaker than usual Wisconsin defensive front.

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So passing catching, coaching Michigan offense very substandard. Unless Michigan

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dramatically improves on offense, it's gonna be tough for the

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Wolverines to beat USC. And Yet, as someone who follows USC,

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I know that USC's defense has been bad this season,

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was certainly very bad against Illinois. So you know, can

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you trust either Michigan or USC in that upcoming game

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in Week seven in the Los Angeles Coliseum. The key

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to this game is going to be the USC pass rush,

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right because in USC's offense, you can generally rely on

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a Lincoln Riley offense. Jade and Mayava at quarterback. He's

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had a very good year. I won't say great because

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he you know, you did make some mistakes against Illinois,

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but he's had a very good year. And you have

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receivers McKay lemon, Jacoby Lane who can do the job,

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some really talented running backs, and an offensive line which

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so far has performed well. So the questions for you

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are not on offense, they're on the defense. And against Illinois,

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the defensive line did not create one sack. USC got

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one sack against Illinois that was on a blitz from

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the secondary. That's it. So USC's pass rush against the

477
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:20,160
Michigan offensive line. That's the center of this game. If

478
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,240
USC's pass rush can get home, if USC can collapse

479
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:29,400
the pocket when Michigan has the ball, Trojan should be

480
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,799
able to you know, prevent Michigan from a scoring in

481
00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:38,119
the thirties and b controlling time of possession as long

482
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,920
as Michigan scores under thirty points and doesn't dominate time

483
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,079
of possession. Let's say, for purposes of the discussion, let's

484
00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:49,119
say Michigan has no more than thirty two minutes time

485
00:30:49,119 --> 00:30:53,799
of possession and scores anywhere under thirty points. USC should win.

486
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:57,079
US should definitely have enough offense that, you know, with

487
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,119
twenty eight minutes time of possession and Michigan not you know,

488
00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:06,839
hogging the ball, USC should be able to score at

489
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,839
least thirty in this game. Michigan just looked very disjointed.

490
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:16,279
You know, Let's keep in mind, Michigan barely beat Nebraska

491
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:19,160
earlier this season. I watched a little bit of Nebraska

492
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,720
Michigan State. Nebraska didn't look good like Nebraska is still

493
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:25,279
not a good team. And yet Michigan State was right

494
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:30,480
there battling Nebraska in the fourth quarter. You know that

495
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,039
that was about a fifty minute game before Nebraska pulled

496
00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:39,880
away late. So Michigan does not inspire much optimism or confidence.

497
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,079
I do not see a very good Michigan team there.

498
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:45,759
So it's just about, you know, after a week off,

499
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:52,640
can USC's defense. Can this be leaguered, struggling defense get

500
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,599
a little healthier, which it should, you'd think, right with

501
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,599
a week off, and will make at least some adjustments

502
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:03,920
to be not terrible. Not expecting USC's defense to be great,

503
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,160
but I'm expecting it to be not terrible. And if

504
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,680
USC's defense is not terrible, the Trojans should definitely have

505
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:14,079
enough offense to beat Michigan. And what's a hugely important

506
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:17,359
game for both schools. I mean, the loser is basically

507
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,640
done in terms of the playoff in mid October, so

508
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,680
really a must win for Lincoln Riley if he loses

509
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,480
to Michigan again, and this time at home under really

510
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:32,599
what really are favorable circumstances, including and having a week off,

511
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,640
you know, two weeks to prepare for this Michigan team.

512
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,359
Lincoln Riley can't get this done. I mean, it's just

513
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,920
gonna be an inferno of heat at USC. You know,

514
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,359
Lincoln Riley's going to coach this team next year because

515
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:50,680
there's that top ranked twenty twenty six recruiting class coming in.

516
00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:54,880
But just speaking personally, I'm fed up with Lincoln Riley.

517
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,559
I don't have confidence that he's gonna get to the

518
00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:01,759
mountaintop at USC. He just doesn't create accountability. He just

519
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:08,759
doesn't create toughness throughout his team. He has to show

520
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:12,039
that he can get things right. Until then, USC hasn't

521
00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:14,519
really earned the benefit of the doubt in that big

522
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:19,519
picture perspective. But Michigan looks below average, So I think

523
00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:22,519
the lean would be the USC. But neither team is

524
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:25,039
a team that you can trust. So consider that if

525
00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:28,160
you're thinking about betting on that game. Some games are

526
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,839
just better left alone. Just enjoy them, study them. You

527
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,319
don't have to bet on everything, right, because if you

528
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:36,880
bet on everything, that needs more chances to lose money,

529
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:39,319
not just more chances to win money. A little bit

530
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:43,240
of betting wisdom. Just as you go through your college

531
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:48,559
football season, and now the really big one, Indiana at Oregon.

532
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,960
It's a huge game, right Oregon beat Penn State, Indiana

533
00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:00,119
thumped Illinois, and then survived Kinnick Stadium in Iowa. The

534
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,400
winner of this game basically has one foot in the

535
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,359
door of both the Big Ten Championship game and the

536
00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:09,280
College Football playoff. It it's going to be hard for

537
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,719
the loser, or excuse me, for the winner of this

538
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,360
game to miss the playoff, and even the loser of

539
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,360
this game will still have plenty of chances to solidify

540
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,320
a playoff bid in the second half of the season.

541
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,920
But the winner of this game is basically in the playoff.

542
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,639
Maybe not an absolute lock, but just extremely likely, like

543
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,719
barring an unforeseen stumble at some point along the way

544
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,480
in late October or anytime in November, barring an unforeseen stumble,

545
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:38,519
the winner of this game is going to be in

546
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,960
the playoff and very likely will play Ohio State in

547
00:34:44,039 --> 00:34:47,519
the Big Ten Championship game. So it's a huge one.

548
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:51,719
It's a huge one, and it's more about the upside

549
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,599
for the winner. The loser still has everything to play for.

550
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:57,280
The loser will have just one loss in the middle

551
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,280
of the season. That's okay, it's not the idea, but

552
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,760
it's okay. But the winner, the winner is sitting very,

553
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,719
very pretty. So you have Kurt Signetti against Dan Laney,

554
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,760
who's just great coaching matchup. Two guys who get it

555
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,239
in terms of culture, in terms of organization, in terms

556
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,920
of accountability, the things that Lincoln Riley and I would

557
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:23,679
also say Charon Moore at Michigan have struggled to establish

558
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,239
one obvious and central plot point here Fernando Mendoza. You know,

559
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,880
I mentioned Cal at the beginning of the show. Cal

560
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,159
without Mendoza, you know, was able to put up a

561
00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:39,400
good fight against cam Ward in Miami last season. Cal

562
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:44,360
not as good at quarterback this season. So Fernando Mendoza left,

563
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,880
leaves Berkeley, goes to Indiana. But from his days at Cal,

564
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,039
he knows what it's like to play in Pac twelve

565
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:54,159
style locations. Obviously it's a big ten game, but you

566
00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:59,199
know what I mean, Oregon, former Pac twelve school, Fernando Mendoza,

567
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,920
like this is not going to be completely new for him,

568
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,440
It's not going to be completely foreign for him. That

569
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,159
could that could help Indiana. So how does Fernando Mendoza

570
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,679
handle Ottson Stadium. He struggled at Iowa, you know, in Kinnick,

571
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,639
which is a hard place to win. So maybe just

572
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,679
having that difficult day against the Hawk guys gives him

573
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,800
sufficient preparation to now step it up a bit, elevate

574
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,239
his game against Oregon. And you know, when we consider

575
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,280
this game from the Oregon perspective, you know that win

576
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,280
against Penn State. I mean, if you beat Penn State

577
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,760
at night in prime time on national TV, that's a

578
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,360
good win. Penn State's lost to UCLA doesn't really change that.

579
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,840
But Penn State isn't all that great, so we can

580
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,000
we can slightly downgrade the Oregon win over Penn State.

581
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:53,480
It doesn't mean it ceases to be a good win,

582
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,599
but it's a little bit less, right, just it's a

583
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,119
it's a little bit less. You have to take away something,

584
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,920
uh from that win. So when we consider that Oregon

585
00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:06,480
scored just three points on Penn State in two and

586
00:37:06,519 --> 00:37:09,719
a half quarters and that UCLA hum forty two in

587
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,480
Penn State. I know that Tony Rojas, Penn State's excellent linebacker,

588
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:20,519
was missing against UCLA. It's relevant to the discussion, but

589
00:37:20,559 --> 00:37:23,599
it's still just one player. Like Penn State's defensive line

590
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:28,559
still did get handled by UCLA's offensive line. So just

591
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:31,159
how good was that win over Penn State. It's still

592
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:33,960
a good win, want to make that clear, but it

593
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:37,639
does have to be reduced in terms of the stature

594
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,639
and overall level of impressiveness. Right, I think you have

595
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,920
to make at least some kind of recalibration there, but

596
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,079
the question is how much. But it certainly creates intrigue

597
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:56,480
before Oregon hosts Indiana, and so Dante Moore, the fact

598
00:37:56,519 --> 00:38:00,559
that he went into Penn State and won that should

599
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:02,679
give him a lot of confidence going to this game

600
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,800
against Indiana. And now, you know, to kind of go

601
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,440
back to the Indiana view of this game, one thing

602
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,760
that you have to be concerned about if you're Indiana

603
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,960
is that, you know, Illinois was horrible. Illinois did not

604
00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:20,239
offer any resistance. Illinois did not provide a true test.

605
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:25,440
Iowa was going through a very difficult quarterback situation with

606
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:29,280
injuries and all sorts of limitations. So Indiana was able

607
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,880
to handle Iowa's offense. You know, Indiana almost lost that

608
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,519
game because its own offense struggled. Mendoza didn't play especially well,

609
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,360
but the Indiana defense was able to win that game,

610
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,440
limiting Iowa to thirteen points. Indiana then takes that late

611
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,119
safety for the twenty to fifteen final. Indiana's defense was fine,

612
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,880
but but Iowa's offense was very limited. So Now, if

613
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,760
you're Indiana, you know, Illinois offense didn't do anything. Iowa

614
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,440
was offense was limited. This Oregon offense with all that speed.

615
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:08,360
Dan Lanning has been excellent at bringing speed into his

616
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:13,000
program in Eugene. You know, this could be a day

617
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:16,559
that Oregon's offense takes off and it might be a bigger,

618
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:22,840
tougher challenge by several notches, several degrees of difficulty than

619
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,880
anything that Indiana has seen before. So really, the keys

620
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,400
to this game Mendoza is number one. Mendoza has to

621
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,719
play well. I can't see Indiana winning if Mendoza does

622
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,320
not play well. But then the second thing is can

623
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:43,519
Indiana's defense match Oregon's speed and not get burned either

624
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:49,440
down the field or in like screens, misdirections and situations

625
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,320
where Oregons backs and receivers get the ball in open

626
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,159
space and you know, try to turn a dump off

627
00:39:56,199 --> 00:40:00,480
pass or a short pass into a long one. Indiana's

628
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:03,800
linebackers and safeties going to be in the right position

629
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,880
so that they're always making tackles right after the catch.

630
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,000
That's going to be the other key for that particular game.

631
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:15,800
So the UCLA's upset over Penn State, the big story

632
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,639
of week six. Week seven, we look ahead and we

633
00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:22,760
see those two huge Big Ten games involving Western teams,

634
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,599
Oregon hosting Indiana, USC hosting Michigan. And you know, just

635
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:29,920
while we're talking about the Big Ten, we also have

636
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,360
Ohio State Illinois, but that's outside the West. You want

637
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,000
to get more on that game, Buck, Guys Alina from

638
00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:40,599
our friends at Big Ten Paradigm. Another College Grid on

639
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Coast to Coast show hosted by Noah Drury. You get

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00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,239
more on the Big Ten, especially the Midwestern teams from

641
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Big Ten Paradigm, and of course all our College Grid

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around coast to coast shows, whether it's Yards and Stripes

643
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644
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,000
thriller over Air Force and one of the more inner

645
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,039
retaining games of week six. So Yards and Stripes is

646
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those shows, All Sports Discussion and Florida Football Insiders, they're

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For all those shows, go to Apple, Spotify, Spreaker, wherever

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656
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657
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many interesting games coming up, and of course UCLA beating

658
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Penn State and an upset we're going to remember for

659
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a very very long time. So for Get Off My Pilon.

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