WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:03.120 Hey, Dira, thanks for coming on men with Chess. I 2 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:04.679 really appreciate it. How you doing tonight? 3 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:07.719 Doing well? Doing well? Busy, busy time, a lot of 4 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:10.640 the debates going on, trying to organize a lot of stuff, 5 00:00:10.640 --> 00:00:13.320 trying to finish my second book. But I'm glad to 6 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:14.439 be here. I'm honored. 7 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:17.719 Excellent. Yeah, I heard you have a big debate coming 8 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:22.120 up tonight on Warski Live with an unnamed big YouTuber. 9 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:22.800 Is that right? 10 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:27.079 Well, I haven't heard back yet from Andy. I heard 11 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:29.320 from him a week ago and he said he would 12 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:32.560 try to get it arranged tonight. But I texted him 13 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:35.479 today and he hasn't responded yet. I don't know. Oh wow, 14 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:39.560 not for sure, but keeps getting postponed, so hopefully it'll 15 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:40.320 happen eventually. 16 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:43.479 Gotcha all right? Well, I hope they go through. I 17 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:44.679 look forward to listening to it. 18 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:49.320 Man, I'm excited to debate. I got a big atheist, 19 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:50.880 and I think some people have already figured out who 20 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.840 it is. It's not step On, it's not Sticks, it's 21 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:58.439 not Jordan Peterson, so that only leaves a handful of other. 22 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:00.840 Well, I was kind of hoping you were going to 23 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:03.119 do a seance and debate Christopher Hitchins. 24 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:09.319 Actually, I don't think I'm not trying to be offensive 25 00:01:09.319 --> 00:01:12.120 to this person, but I don't think he's not really 26 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:16.840 known as being an intellectual atheist. He's more of just 27 00:01:16.879 --> 00:01:24.400 a vocal kind of a flamboyant more so than a 28 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:27.200 like a PhD or something. 29 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:30.920 Gotcha? Okay, well, I look forward to it. I heard 30 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.319 your debate with Nicholas Fuentes, and I thought that was 31 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:38.680 very entertaining, and so I respect your debate skills, that's 32 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:39.079 for sure. 33 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:42.159 Well, thank you. I've yet to lose a debate. 34 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:46.599 Actually, all right, Well, for those of you who don't know, 35 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:51.319 Jay Dyer's website is jasanalysis dot com. He's the author 36 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:56.280 of Esoteric Hollywood Sex, Cults and Symbols and Film Jay, 37 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:57.799 what else do you want us to know about you? 38 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:04.079 I am the I run Jason Elis, as you said, 39 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:06.439 but I also do a subscription service there. That's kind 40 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:10.039 of the main means of how people interact with my 41 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:14.240 work is through the articles and the videos and subscribing 42 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:17.879 to educational content basically, so there's a lot of lectures 43 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:23.439 on philosophy, history, theology, geopolitics, book reviews, and I've been 44 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:25.039 doing that for I guess about a year and a 45 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:28.199 half or two years now, So that's one way to 46 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:30.840 access my material. And I also am the co creator 47 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:35.120 and co presenter of the television show Hollywood Decoded on 48 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:38.879 Guy at TV, which is accessible through Exfinity and Amazon 49 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:40.080 Prime and all that stuff. 50 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:44.000 Oh awesome. Yeah, I watched that episode you sent to 51 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:46.479 me on Lord of the Rings. This fascinating stuff. I 52 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:50.159 thought that was really great. Kind of a cult or 53 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:51.759 symbolic Ciskel and Ebert. 54 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:54.159 I guess you could say, yeah, yeah, we try to 55 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:57.400 say Cisco and Ebert on acid or Cisco and Neibert 56 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:01.159 two point zero or yeah, different ways to kind of 57 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:03.240 update social neighbor. But thank you. I appreciate that. 58 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:06.919 Yeah, no problem, Well, good stuff, man, I appreciate it. Yeah, 59 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:11.280 we wanted to talk tonight about social engineering. I've heard 60 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:14.000 you talk about this confidently in the past on Tim 61 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:19.120 Kelly's show and other places, and specifically how it's affected 62 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:22.280 Christianity in the West in the twentieth century, but also 63 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:26.919 more broadly so, I think hating on baby boomers is 64 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:29.800 kind of a popular meme right now, and there seems 65 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:31.919 to be kind of something wrong with them. They're very 66 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:35.319 self indulgent people, and they kind of, you know, wasted 67 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:38.000 away our economy and all these different criticisms we have, 68 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:40.199 and I think a lot of that has to do 69 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:43.039 with the social engineering that's gone on. So can you 70 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.000 give us kind of a big picture where is this 71 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:47.840 coming from and why is it being done? 72 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:50.840 Yes? And I have to take some credit for that 73 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:54.439 because my friend Mark and I were writing blog pieces 74 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:58.400 about eight years ago making boomer jokes, so I might 75 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:04.960 me and Mark actually be the first the internet boomer posters. 76 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:09.240 But anyway, yeah, I mean it's obviously it's not anything 77 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:11.400 as naive as to say that the problems of the 78 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:15.159 world are the results of a single generation. We have 79 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:19.480 to look, i would say, at many years of practicing 80 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:23.079 and perfecting the technique of social engineering. So in a 81 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:27.040 very broad sense, this is the practice that goes all 82 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:29.639 the way back to Machiavelli, or you could extend it 83 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:32.639 back even to ancient empires. And you even see this 84 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:35.279 kind of stuff in the Bible. You'll see the means 85 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:38.120 and methods of geopolitical machination when you read the books 86 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:42.800 of the Kings, Chronicles, Samuel, et cetera. But in the 87 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:46.199 modern area era it's a little more precise because you 88 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:53.199 have the rise of technological process technique and scientific technique 89 00:04:53.439 --> 00:05:00.560 in how to manage mass groups of people. So I 90 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:03.639 would argue that most of this arises out of the 91 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:08.480 military and wartime strategies and planning. Certainly, prior to that, 92 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:12.959 you had bankers who were already back in the seventeen 93 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:15.480 hundreds eighteen hundreds of the times of the revolutions. They 94 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:21.680 had already noticed how to fund revolutionary movements in other countries. 95 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:25.519 This is not solely the enterprise of Jewish bankers. It 96 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:29.240 is a practice of bankers in general. And you can 97 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:32.000 read that Carol Quigley. I have lectures on the totality 98 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:36.439 of his book Tragy and Hope, and he uses France 99 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:41.040 as one example, and he covers the rothschild the Catholic 100 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:44.600 and the Protestant interests that all were sort of vying 101 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:49.120 for power and control of France as one test case. Now, certainly, 102 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:52.680 over time Jewish banking interests tended to have a lot 103 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:55.600 of power through the Rothschilds. But we can't leave out 104 00:05:55.639 --> 00:06:00.279 our WASP and our Vatican bank connections either, And of 105 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:04.680 course the Rochels have also been the official papal bankers, 106 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:07.959 I think since the seventeen hundred, so all of these 107 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:14.360 interests interconnect, and as I think Spangler put it very well, 108 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:18.120 there's never been a socialist revolution that wasn't funded by 109 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:21.560 capitalists at the top. And I think that that's accurate. 110 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:24.480 And so when we look at the French Revolution, we 111 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:29.160 see a kind of a combination of Protestant, Swiss and 112 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:32.439 Jewish banking interests and the British Empire having a vested 113 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:36.319 interest in removing a Catholic monarch. We see a similar 114 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:41.600 pattern with the funding of the Bolshek revolutions from revolution 115 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:46.000 excuse me, from the Warburgs and other New York banking houses, 116 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:50.800 and that was essentially to reconstruct and set up a 117 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:55.160 social experiment in Russia, to get rid of the idea 118 00:06:55.240 --> 00:07:00.240 of a bizarre and imperium and a confessional state. See 119 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:02.360 the same pattern of the removal of the Holy Roman 120 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:08.319 Empire in Europe and the removal of the Byzantine continuation 121 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:13.519 in the Romanovs, their removal by the Bolsheviks. And ultimately, 122 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:15.680 this I would say, is at the behest of the 123 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:19.680 money power. It was the banking interest behind both of 124 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:22.879 these things. Quickly comes to the same conclusion that Friedman 125 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:27.040 of Stratford came to when they both said that the 126 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:31.759 twentieth century was about the Atlantis sis or Western power 127 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:37.199 blocks removal of their two main rivals, namely Germany, Austria, 128 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:41.240 Hungarian Empire and Russia. So that's the twentieth century in total, 129 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:45.079 in both of the wars and the Cold War. The 130 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:47.000 way you get out of these wars and the wartime 131 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:51.639 experience is a lot of research, research and development that 132 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:55.240 goes into the war machine and perfecting the techniques of 133 00:07:55.319 --> 00:08:00.319 war quickly. For example, was a maritime war historian, also 134 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:03.560 has other works about histories of civilization and warfare and 135 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:12.879 so forth like that. A second excuse me, So this 136 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:19.360 research and development was focused largely in the traditional sense 137 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:22.360 of psychological warfare, but also in the implementation of new 138 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:28.199 techniques and strategies that would involve a lot of advanced 139 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:34.000 UH things like cybernetics. This would come to dominate entities 140 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:38.799 like DARPA, which would be very instrumental in how to 141 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:43.919 manipulate technology to achieve the upper hand in warfare, specifically 142 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:48.639 things like mimicking nature, transhumanism, et cetera, et cetera, but 143 00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:51.879 specific entities that can definitely be pointed to would be 144 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:56.080 the Tavistock Institute, the Frankfurt School. 145 00:08:57.639 --> 00:09:03.879 The which by the way, both had intimate connections to 146 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:07.240 the CIA, the OSS, and as I was discussing hober 147 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:10.039 Moss in one of my lectures last night for subscribers, 148 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:11.679 harber Moss is one of the. 149 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:16.840 Premier figures of the Frankfurt School, which was the German 150 00:09:17.279 --> 00:09:22.440 Jewish figures who had studied culture and the idea of 151 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:28.360 culture critique, culture creation, and ultimately culture degradation. And so 152 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:32.840 hober Mouse, for example, talks about how you could socially 153 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:37.840 engineer America through all of these different cultural means. And 154 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:40.720 what most people don't know, however, is that it was 155 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:45.080 the OSS, the CIA, the Rockefellers and Macy Foundation money 156 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:50.759 that actually brought these Eastern Bloc Marxists over to help 157 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:54.000 America fight the Great Wars. So what you get in 158 00:09:54.039 --> 00:10:01.240 America is a basically they mastered the art of culture 159 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:06.679 creation and toxic culture. And so it's not just Jewish interests. 160 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:09.840 It was Rockefellers and the CIA that brought the Frankfurt 161 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:13.519 School people over. So there was a combination of interest. 162 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:18.039 There wasn't just one group. They both had a vested 163 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:22.399 interest and so that's how we get the sixties counterculture 164 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:27.200 and the boomers is from these I would say Pentagon, Military, CIA, 165 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:31.600 Frank for school characters are all on the same team. 166 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:35.039 Yeah, there does seem to be a real tendency these 167 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:39.399 days on the internet among alt rightish type communities to 168 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:42.559 point the finger at Jewish interests and ignore some of 169 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:46.519 the other interests. But there definitely was a lot of 170 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:49.440 different groups working together for the same goal. But I'm 171 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:53.600 kind of curious, is there a unifying ideology for this 172 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:56.639 agenda or is it just about amassing power and money 173 00:10:56.799 --> 00:10:58.639 or what have you found out? 174 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:03.360 So I think that people who don't have a theology 175 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:08.639 or a belief in the transcendent, they're generally walking around 176 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:11.039 in a hall of mirrors trying to figure out who 177 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.000 the one bad guy is. But if you have a 178 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:19.960 conception of theology and a belief in the Bible things 179 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:22.600 like this, then you tend to have an overriding view 180 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:27.720 of history and total beginning, middle, and end, and so 181 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:30.759 you have a conception of good and evil, and so 182 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:34.240 good and evil are of course spiritual forces, and they 183 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:40.039 are not any specific racial, ethnic socio political group or 184 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:42.360 class that. It's not class warfare, it's not any of that. 185 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:48.399 There are undoubtedly powerful interests, but I see the Rockefellers 186 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.919 as far more powerful and influential and prominent in the 187 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:57.519 last century than Jewish interrists, for example. I mean, the 188 00:11:57.519 --> 00:12:00.000 Frankfurt School would not have had any power had any 189 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:04.600 been brought over by the by British intelligence and the 190 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:06.440 CIA and the Rockefellers. 191 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:10.480 Indeed, yeah, I heard I heard you talk about on 192 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:14.720 other shows. How in America and to some degree in Europe, 193 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:17.440 the right wing tends to always point the finger at 194 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:21.000 Marxism and communism, and this is the reason our civilization 195 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:25.399 has been undermined, and gender identity destroyed, and pornography pushed 196 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:28.559 on us because some sort of KGB psyop or something. 197 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.720 But in reality, when you look at it, it really 198 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:34.000 seems like this is coming from, as you said, the 199 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:37.120 big banks, because they really funded these revolutions, and the 200 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:42.200 Rockefeller interest also pushed these things here at home. So really, well, 201 00:12:42.279 --> 00:12:44.600 there's a lot more to it than just Commi's. 202 00:12:44.279 --> 00:12:47.720 Right, absolutely, this is very crucial, and this is one 203 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:51.360 of the main reasons why I did the eight lectures 204 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:54.200 on Tragy and hope is because Carol Quigley, who himself 205 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:57.320 was a Catholic of sorts or a professing Catholic of 206 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:00.039 some kind, I was very much a fan of the 207 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:04.639 Western Atlanti's democratic order, and he actually thought that, you know, 208 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:08.559 this democratic new world order would be the best thing 209 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:11.440 for the world. So that's why he was a true 210 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:15.639 believer and a supporter, I believe, and quickly is very 211 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:17.960 adamant in the book. This is probably what the book 212 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:21.840 is most known for is the quotes where he says 213 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:27.759 that the communist Marxist, leftist socialist movements in America on 214 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:30.519 their own had absolutely no power and didn't weren't that 215 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:35.200 effect effective until they received all of this money from 216 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.679 these very wealthy elites that were both Jewish, Protestant, and 217 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:46.879 times even Catholic. So I mean, it's it might be 218 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:48.799 difficult for some people to wrap their head around that, 219 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:51.960 but I mean it's like I said earlier, that this 220 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:56.159 is why you have the the Wall Street funding both 221 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:59.279 Nazis and the Bolsheviks. And one of the best ways 222 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:02.120 to see this is to read some of the real 223 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:07.200 inner circle planners of this whole system. This over writing 224 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:11.759 ideology that you asked about. Yes, I've been doing a 225 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:16.559 series called Globalist Books, and this is characters like people 226 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:19.559 from the CIA, like Miles Copeland, or people from the 227 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:25.200 Royal Society like Bertrand Russell, the Fabian Society, people like H. G. Wells, 228 00:14:25.840 --> 00:14:30.159 and they are very people like Charles Galton, Darwin, Arthur Kessler. 229 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:33.840 I'll be doing Jacques Attalie next. These are characters who 230 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:37.039 are very open about the overwriting ideology. And it's not 231 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:48.240 solely racial. It is also materialistic. It is technocratic and dysgenic. 232 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:51.480 And so that's what bertin Russell's. Russell says, Yes, I'm 233 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:56.519 very happy to see the Bolsheviks succeed in Russia because 234 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:59.080 he says it's a social experiment, just like all the 235 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:06.440 other twentieth century movements and ideas. He says, there's social 236 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:10.360 experiments to see which things work best for the technocracy. 237 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:15.039 So the endgame here is the development of this new 238 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:18.279 world order type technocracy, I guess is what you could say. 239 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:19.840 It. 240 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.159 Almost to me, looking at it seems like kind of 241 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:25.679 a like a dark alchemy, or something like a social alchemy. 242 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:29.360 They're melting down all these social institutions that we've had 243 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:32.799 in the West for centuries and trying to create an 244 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:37.440 entirely new society that's almost an opposite image of what 245 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:40.440 was there before. Out of what they've melted down. You 246 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:42.879 know what I mean is good. 247 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:46.960 Yeah, I think we're spot on. There is a chapter 248 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:50.879 in Tragic Hope that a lot of people miss because 249 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:54.080 everybody focuses on the sections where he talks about the 250 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:57.759 banker's funding the communists. There's a more important chapter about 251 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:01.559 the rise of the military industrial complex, and Quigley's whole 252 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:03.679 point in the chapter is that the new world order 253 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:07.200 is transhumanism. It is technocracy. He says, that's the whole 254 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:10.679 goal of all of it. So we can argue about 255 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:14.120 all these other things. And I'm not saying you can't 256 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:16.679 argue about those other things. I'm saying that the long 257 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:24.759 term plan is not just Israelis. It includes the Saudis, 258 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:28.080 it includes you know, China, it includes all these other 259 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:31.559 interests to be a part of this global scheme. You 260 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:35.000 can debate to what degree, you know, atheistic Zionists or 261 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:37.759 whatever have a role in that, but I think that 262 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:43.360 the the overarching plan is technocracy. It's not rooted in 263 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:48.759 any kind of Jewish messianic claims. You know, do you 264 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:52.039 see what I'm saying. Yes, yes, I don't think that 265 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:56.240 Bill Gates, David Rockefeller and these people who have you know, 266 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:59.799 arguably some of the they're probably some of the most 267 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:02.480 amplement on the planet. I don't think they're really concerned 268 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:07.440 about Jewish Messianism. I don't think they care about Palestine. 269 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:12.359 So what what do they care about? Technocracy? And so 270 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:16.359 I see this the most powerful people all being on 271 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:19.480 board with that, and that's why to be in that 272 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:22.000 kind of club, you have to be on board with that. 273 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:26.640 They don't really care about the ideology of a single 274 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:29.119 piece of land in the Middle East. I'm not saying 275 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:31.759 that that that Israel doesn't have a role in that, 276 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:34.759 but if you look at when Israel is being set up, 277 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:40.400 what the Balfour Declaration and the Royal Society and all this, 278 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:43.440 what they were saying at that time, they weren't really 279 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:47.680 concerned with Jews or Rams. They just wanted an outpost 280 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:52.400 uh and the Royal Society who set that up were 281 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:57.759 just as interested in controlling the Islamic world as they 282 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:06.519 were controlling the the Jewish homeland. And this is why, 283 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.960 by the way, Jews got mad at British occupation, and 284 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:12.839 you had like the er Gone and the bombing of 285 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:15.039 the King David Hotel and so forth. 286 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:19.880 Right, and they do seem to have these technocrats an 287 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:25.359 apocalyptic profit in Ray Kurtzweil, and he published that over 288 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:28.160 a decade ago, talking about the year twenty forty five 289 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:32.039 and how human beings will become just totally integrated with 290 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:36.079 computer technology and AI and the planet Earth will basically 291 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:38.559 become like a technological god being. 292 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:39.160 You know. 293 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:42.839 But I don't think that this is the plan for 294 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:46.079 all seven and a half billion people. I think the 295 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:50.440 becoming transcendent technological god beings is for the upper class, 296 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:52.720 and the rest of us will well, I'm not sure 297 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:54.079 what they have planned for the rest of us. Do 298 00:18:54.079 --> 00:18:56.319 you have anything ideas. 299 00:18:57.240 --> 00:18:59.359 Well? Yeah, they say very clearly to get rid of 300 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:03.839 everybody else. So there's no debate about that. That's been that. 301 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:06.319 When you read all of these globalist texts, and these 302 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:11.799 are formative thinkers for the global plan, they always talk 303 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:15.839 about two or three things across the board. They never 304 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:22.319 disagree about Darwinian evolution and technocracy. They never disagree about 305 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:26.119 the need the crisis to kill off most of the planet. 306 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:30.759 And they never disagree about the implementation of a federation 307 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:33.400 of all nations into a global government. Every one of 308 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:40.240 them always across the board. That's their dogma. So one example, 309 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:42.519 another good example this is somebody like Arthur Kessler. Now 310 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:45.400 a lot of people would say, we'll see Arthur Kessler 311 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:50.160 in Thirteenth Tribe proves the Kazarian theory. Well, I don't 312 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:52.920 really put a lot of stock in the Kasar theory. 313 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:55.880 I think it's kind of a silly thing. But what's 314 00:19:55.920 --> 00:20:00.079 interesting about Kessler himself is that he stepped out of 315 00:20:01.519 --> 00:20:06.359 caring about Jewish interests and was self consciously a Luciferian, 316 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:11.799 and he was part of that inner British Royal Society clique. 317 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:16.000 And he wrote Ghosts in the Machine, and at the 318 00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:18.400 end of Ghosts of the Machine he says what you 319 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:21.000 just said. He says, it is a dark alchemy what 320 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:27.119 we're doing to the globe, and it is to to 321 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:29.519 he puts it the way he states, it is to 322 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:35.400 commander engineer, to commander evolution, to propel the species to godhood, 323 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:38.640 basically is the whole point. So they're all agreed on transhumanism. 324 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:42.119 That's who came up with all those the Huxley's coined 325 00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:45.799 the term transhumanism. That is the ultimate goal. And that's 326 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:51.200 also why you see a convergence of somebody like Ray Kurswall, 327 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:54.599 who I would assume has some kind of Jewish background, 328 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:59.759 and David Rockfeller if they both like the idea of transhumanism, 329 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:06.480 because as it's an alternate version of the Gospel salvation 330 00:21:06.599 --> 00:21:09.519 through technology, and so you could look at it like 331 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:12.160 who's the bad guy. Well, in the first century, who 332 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:15.079 was the bad guy? Well, you have the Pharisees. They 333 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:19.119 teamed up with Caesar and hearing them. So there's a 334 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:25.319 combination of interests that are in rebellion against truth, against Christ, 335 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:30.559 against the logos. And I don't believe that they actually 336 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:36.519 will achieve technological godhood. I think that that's partly a lie, 337 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:40.920 a myth that they are projecting. And certainly there will 338 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:47.160 be technological enhancements, probably extended life longevity, you know, I'm 339 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:50.839 sure there will be all kinds of new miraculous nanotech 340 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:54.839 health discoveries. But to think that this is going to 341 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:59.599 give you immortality, I think would just be utter stupidity 342 00:21:59.640 --> 00:22:03.160 and being completely naive. Yeah, No, why would the people 343 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:04.920 why would the people who say that they want your 344 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:07.960 dad give you immortality. That's other stupid. 345 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:12.079 Yeah, No, I definitely think it's an overreach. That whole 346 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:15.680 what is it called the Ray kurtzwild theory, I forget, 347 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:18.000 but I don't think it'll get that far to a 348 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:23.240 technological godhood. But you know all this technology singularity, Yes, yes, 349 00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:26.799 I think it's a positive thing in and of itself, 350 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:30.279 and we just need to reconvert the culture and baptize it. 351 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:36.359 Exactly. I was, I forget which talk or stream or something, 352 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:39.119 but I was saying that we have the template, you know, 353 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:43.759 already laid down as to how to build societies, how 354 00:22:43.839 --> 00:22:47.640 to build cultures, and how to have real progress. And 355 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:51.400 one of the things that I always cut at the 356 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:56.039 root of is that most Jews, and most alt right, 357 00:22:56.279 --> 00:23:02.720 and most atheists and most Pagans, can you think of 358 00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:03.880 one thing they all have in common? 359 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:13.039 No, what was that? Darwinism? Darwinism. 360 00:23:13.839 --> 00:23:16.480 Yeah. So I'm a big opponent of Darwinism and have 361 00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:18.720 been for a long time. I'm always trying to find 362 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:21.640 somebody to debate it. Yeah, and I've written, I've written 363 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:26.200 a whole ton of articles against Darwinism and Darwinism factors 364 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:31.400 directly into transhumanism. Darwinism, I believe, is a from I 365 00:23:31.519 --> 00:23:34.400 come at it from the position of a philosopher, that's 366 00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:38.039 my training, and so I critique it from a philosophical standpoint, 367 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:39.799 which is not to say that I never I don't 368 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:43.880 ever engage in the scientific discourse. I do, but I'm 369 00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:47.720 mainly concerned with higher order questions, and philosophy is a 370 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:51.079 little bit higher order than empirical science. So I believe 371 00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:56.839 that Darwinism is a mythology, that right that originally comes 372 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:01.680 from ancient Hinduism. And so the the people want to 373 00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:05.680 make a connection between like scientism and Kabbalism, Yeah, you 374 00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:10.680 can find that connection, because ultimately these these positions are 375 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:15.480 really the same as like ancient a perennial tradition style 376 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:19.400 Hindu stuff. So you were once a rock and then 377 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:23.440 you you know you, or you were once a goo 378 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:26.480 and then you evolved into you know, to something else. 379 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:29.480 And so the transmutation of species, I think, which is 380 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:35.119 completely ridiculous, is really a very powerful presupposition that most 381 00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:40.160 people aren't willing to criticize or question. So that's why 382 00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:42.200 I think that the alt right is doomed to fail 383 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:45.839 as well as all these movements because they're all predicated 384 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:50.079 on a false grand mythology, which is basically you know, 385 00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:52.440 if you read the ancient Greek myths, it's the same idea. 386 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:57.559 It's like lightning. The gods struck the ground of lightning, 387 00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:00.119 and you know, out of it comes man. I mean, 388 00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:04.240 that's like exactly what the theory of the produce the 389 00:25:04.279 --> 00:25:06.000 protest the rise of the protozoa was. 390 00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:09.480 So so you're telling me, Jay that you don't believe 391 00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:12.599 that all the complexity of life evolved from a single 392 00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:15.519 cell organism. You don't think this is a scientific effect. 393 00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:21.160 No, because as I understand, DNA only prints what it 394 00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:24.680 has within that species code. So a whale is never 395 00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:28.599 going to print bear code. A tree is never going 396 00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:32.960 to print whale code. You can have mutations and adaptations, 397 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:40.160 but the new coding that is expressed to show those 398 00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:44.920 mutations or adaptations is only what is already present in 399 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:49.559 the strand, and it's either on or off. So the 400 00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:52.000 whale never has bear code. 401 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:55.359