WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.120 You're listening to bigfla Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In 2 00:00:03.160 --> 00:00:05.879 this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring 3 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:08.720 you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen 4 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:12.880 something impossible. From backwoods trails in remote mountain haulers to 5 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:16.719 quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, 6 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:19.719 and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. 7 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:24.000 These are the voices of the people who've lived it. 8 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:27.440 So settle in because today you'll hear another account that 9 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:30.160 just might change the way you see the woods forever. 10 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:31.239 So stay with us. 11 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:34.280 Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his 12 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:38.679 fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey, 13 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:42.399 please go to the Carring Bridge link in the show notes. 14 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:42.880 Thank you. 15 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:46.799 This episode includes a discussion of suicide. If this brings 16 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:49.520 up difficult feelings for you, please know you're not alone 17 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:52.119 and help is available. 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If you 27 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:22.359 believe you or someone else is in immediate danger, please 28 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:25.599 contact your local emergency number right now, and thank you 29 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:28.159 for taking care of yourself while listening. I pick the 30 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:31.920 Society via the privilege of talking to Austin Aratacus today 31 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:35.599 about some interesting encounters that he has had over the 32 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:39.879 years out there in The main one I believe we'll 33 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:42.319 be talking about is out there in Washington State, but 34 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:45.000 there could be some other things that we talk about 35 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:47.519 as well. Austin, Welcome to the show. How are you 36 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:48.079 doing today. 37 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:51.760 I'm doing wonderful. I'm we've really been looking forward to this. 38 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:58.200 I have been too, because this is a super unique one. 39 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:04.959 Just man, I feel like there's some background for yourself 40 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:11.000 we need to talk about first, and you agreed, Yeah, yeah, 41 00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:13.319 So I'm just going to go through some things that 42 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:16.400 you provided from your bio. Thirty one year old Dan 43 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:21.639 who's had some unexpected crypted experiences you enjoy living soil 44 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:25.919 science also called a ministry through healing, land and food production, 45 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:32.120 which Austin, you listened to the show, so you know 46 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:36.719 kind of what's going on. How I do have a 47 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:41.879 you know, I'm a Christian and yeah, the last few episodes, 48 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:46.759 My Goodness have been really intense that are starting to 49 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:51.520 come out after I reached out to got in prayer 50 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:55.159 and I was like, hey, use this for whatever you want, 51 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:58.759 and man it is it's going crazy. And I mean, 52 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:02.639 I think this is going to be maybe another example 53 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:08.360 of things that can happen when you have this connection 54 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:13.280 to to Christianity in some way. 55 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:18.039 It's very, very, very interesting. But Austin. 56 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:21.879 Just so, does this start out with the Port Townshend 57 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:24.560 encounter or does it go back even further than that? 58 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:31.800 There were isolated incidents. I had my first encounter years 59 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:35.840 before while I was mushroom picking close to Florist Lake 60 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:40.639 in the Port Orford area on the Oregon Coast. I 61 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:42.800 guess I might as well, just since it's kind of chronological, 62 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:48.439 just get into that. It was about sunset and my 63 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:51.400 friend and I had split up to go, you know, 64 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:56.560 find different patches, and everything was totally silent, like just 65 00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:58.560 just like you hear in all everyone's stories. It was 66 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:01.879 really noticeable, and I had music playing on my phone. 67 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:04.759 It was just so eerie. And I found a really 68 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:09.599 nice stand of winter chantrells and I had been picking 69 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:11.800 and when I noticed that silence, and then I hear 70 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:19.000 the two very distinct loud, slicky knock noises, kind of 71 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:22.759 like smacking rocks together, or like a giant person doing 72 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:25.839 that popping noise with their mouth. And I was like, 73 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:28.680 what the heck was that? Because I'd heard I've heard 74 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:35.639 ravens do that before, but not at that volume and 75 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:38.079 that depth, and so I'm like, what the heck is 76 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:40.879 there like a giant raven up in the trees here somewhere, 77 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:43.319 And the way the trees were out there, I could 78 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:46.720 see maybe one hundred one hundred twenty feet before the 79 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.399 tree line would start to blur everything out, and I 80 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:52.000 didn't see anything around me, so I just I just 81 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:55.560 remember feeling like it was hard to move. My body 82 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:58.839 was more afraid than I was mentally, even it seemed, 83 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:02.240 And I get back to picking mushrooms for a moment, 84 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:06.600 and then I hear behind me it had moved to 85 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:08.879 the other side of me. And at that point I 86 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:14.360 knew something was strange because and I didn't hear or 87 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:16.519 see a bird fly over, and it was so silent 88 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:19.399 that you know, I would have I would have heard 89 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:22.600 the wings flapping on a crow or a raven going 90 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:26.120 by me, and my body just frozen fear, like it 91 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:30.519 was a very primitive fear. I remember, like I couldn't 92 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:33.839 quite look off to the sides, to my peripherals. I 93 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:36.120 was almost too scared to look in my peripherals, like 94 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:38.319 I felt like I didn't want to see whatever this was. 95 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:40.439 And I just felt like I was supposed to leave, 96 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:44.720 and so I, I uh just started I left and 97 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:47.079 got out of there my friend and actually we had 98 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:49.279 two friends. My friend was the one who knew was 99 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:50.959 way back in that area because it was all just 100 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:54.839 elk trails and deer trails that went like they snaked 101 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:59.519 through this gigantic patch of huckleberry that was out there, 102 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:01.920 and it was a like you could easily get lost 103 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:05.639 out there or turned around. And they did get turned around, 104 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:09.959 and something interesting that happened was their compass went haywire 105 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:14.839 on his phone, which wasn't happening before that evening, and 106 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:16.759 they got lost out there until like two am. I 107 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:19.759 had to come and try to find them, and they 108 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:22.959 didn't see anything or experience anything themselves. So but yeah, 109 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:25.360 that was my first experience, and I didn't see anything, 110 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:30.920 but knowing the location, seeing how so many people have 111 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:34.879 had experiences on the Rogue River out there, and it 112 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:37.519 being a total food forest. I mean, there are more 113 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:39.600 berries there. You could pick a five gallon bucket of 114 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:43.120 berries twice a day if you could manage the work 115 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:46.879 for a couple months. There's so many berries out there, 116 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:51.360 it's almost like the Himalayan blackberries. But uh, yeah, that 117 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:52.680 was the first experience. 118 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:57.360 So Southwest Oregon has so much bigfoot activity in it. 119 00:06:57.480 --> 00:06:58.800 A lot of it is not. 120 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:03.759 I will say, for some reason, a lot of people 121 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:05.560 don't reach out to me from that area. But I 122 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:08.680 know there's wild stuff going on, especially as you said, 123 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:15.079 like Rogue River, crazy, crazy area. And so I'm I'm curious, 124 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:20.560 how did your friends got lost? Their compass went out 125 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:23.680 until how did you How did you find them out there? 126 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:28.120 I went back to look for him, but my flashlight 127 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:31.439 died and I think my head lamp was dead, and 128 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:33.720 I couldn't go so far. I knew that they were 129 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:35.680 in this area, and they weren't going to be lost 130 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:38.519 for long. They were just they were considering staying the 131 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:40.560 night out there because it got so dark. But my 132 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:43.560 friend was like, no, we're finding this trail and we're 133 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:45.639 getting out of here, which they finally did. So he 134 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:48.399 got his he went out, he got out. I tried 135 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:50.199 to find him, but I was unsuccessful. 136 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:52.959 Oh okay, So it was it was more like they 137 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:56.399 found their way out. Okay, very interesting eventually, Yeah, gotcha? 138 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:56.639 Cool? 139 00:07:56.720 --> 00:07:59.800 Well glad they did, because I've heard you and there's 140 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:04.079 so many stories about people getting lost on even for 141 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:12.240 service roads and then they're just by some some lucky maneuver, 142 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:14.240 they're able to get themselves out of there. They stumble 143 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:17.399 upon a ranger and man, if people can swing it, 144 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:19.480 you gotta have that garment or something with you. 145 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:22.600 It could save your life for sure. 146 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:27.519 So so that was your first experience with something weird 147 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:31.399 out in the woods And how did that affect you? 148 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:35.519 Yeah? You know, I didn't know what it was at first, 149 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:42.120 and a friend of mine introduced me to Sasquatch chronicles 150 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:47.559 and a dog man. He's like the primary dog man guy. 151 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:50.320 I can't remember his name is, but it's terrible. 152 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:55.840 Put it in the comments and and we'll see if 153 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:57.600 anyone knows, they'll. 154 00:08:57.360 --> 00:09:00.960 Know you probably will. But he would play those and 155 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.080 I started to see some similarities and that when I 156 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:06.399 heard them talk about them popping their jaw doing that 157 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:08.840 that click click noise, I thought, oh, that might have 158 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:11.679 been what I saw because my body, I mean, I've 159 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:14.519 spent a lot of time out in the woods. I 160 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:17.120 seen to hear, I've seen plenty of other animals, and 161 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:20.480 I've never felt quite that. I don't like an electrical 162 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:23.559 buzz in the air kind of like a like a 163 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:26.440 like a weighty blanket, like you're moving through cement kind 164 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:31.279 of fear. It was really strange, and maybe there was 165 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:33.639 some kind of an infrasound element to that, or I 166 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:36.919 don't know, maybe it's just because it was such an 167 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:41.840 unfamiliar sound to be at that you know, that depth, So. 168 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:45.799 That's really interesting. Were there any other parts of your 169 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:51.879 body that felt strange during that that timeframe, Not that. 170 00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:57.120 I can think of. I was, Yeah, I'm probably not 171 00:09:57.120 --> 00:09:59.559 not as scared as some people, but I don't think 172 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:01.679 it really too close to me. I think it maybe 173 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:04.399 maybe there were a couple individuals and they talked to 174 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:08.000 each other cross distance. I probably would have heard one 175 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:09.799 of the move around me, but then again, we know, 176 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:13.440 well so many people talk about them having other abilities, 177 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:16.600 so it's hard to know with that one. So I 178 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:18.240 put that up in the air. I got interested in 179 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:23.399 Sasquatch chronicles, started having dreams of sasquatch like standing over me, 180 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:29.279 looking through a window down at me, and yeah, I 181 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:30.919 just it just kind of was in the back of 182 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:32.759 my head every now and then I'd look something up 183 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:35.240 on YouTube if I was bored because it was interesting. 184 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:40.480 But it was really my experiences in Washington that made 185 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:44.000 me kind of a fanatic. I'd say, like it's almost 186 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:47.120 a daily occurrence to look up and download podcasts from 187 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:51.279 either Blurry Creatures or you or the Confessionals or yeah, 188 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:53.679 the whole group, really the whole family of guide there. 189 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:57.600 And it's just there's always like a new detail that 190 00:10:57.679 --> 00:10:59.879 comes out and that I find it just like it's 191 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:01.799 learning those little details. 192 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:04.799 It really is. Those are guys I listened to too. Those 193 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:12.080 are both great shows. Yeah, so I feel we So 194 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:16.919 the next one is Port Townsend, Washington. Correct, Yes, Okay, 195 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.360 so I feel we should. Can you talk a little 196 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:23.919 bit about why you were actually in Port townshend to 197 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:26.360 begin with things like that. 198 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:28.120 Yeah, I ken. 199 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.720 I went up there on permission to do an extended 200 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:36.759 mission building for a why Lamb base and Discovery Bay, 201 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:40.360 and I was there. I'd shown a one of the 202 00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:42.799 base leaders the kind of gardening that I do done 203 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:45.080 in southern Oregon, and so I could build a garden 204 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:48.679 there and share with them and build a greenhouse, and 205 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:50.399 they were down for it. I feel like God has 206 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:52.440 shown a lot of people with the coming times that 207 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:54.559 are ahead, there's kind of a cutoff date here where 208 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:57.200 if we're we don't have independent food systems, we're not 209 00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:59.639 going to be able to get it. So it's really 210 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:04.320 just kind of I've for years, I've been doing gardens 211 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:07.799 all over and uh, I see could you say, could 212 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:09.279 you rephrase your question again? Oh? 213 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:10.679 Yeah, so just curious. 214 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:13.360 So there's probably people that have never heard of what 215 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:15.320 why Wham is and what they. 216 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:17.720 Do and how how. 217 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:21.559 You being able to help people build gardens would connect 218 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:23.120 to that organization. 219 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:28.840 Yeah. I actually went in with the intention to form 220 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:32.000 ministry with it because it blends in with what they 221 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:36.279 do already. They put in wells for people and that 222 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:39.600 really need clean water, and you know, just providing infrastructure 223 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:41.399 and basic housing. I know they build a lot of 224 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:44.879 homes and such, so it's just kind of another cornerstone 225 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:50.120 i'd say to, you know, building a community for people 226 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:55.039 for believers and but yeah, that's uh. I think it's 227 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:58.879 something we all have to do, is be a part 228 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:01.000 of growing food or at least be close enough to 229 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:04.080 people that are and do something that we can exchange 230 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:07.559 with those people so we can all get our needs met. 231 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:10.759 So why WHAM is it's youth with a mission right, 232 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:15.639 And yes, they're like a missionary group that focuses more 233 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:16.799 on unreached people groups. 234 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:17.799 Is that correct? 235 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:21.080 Yeah, yeah, they go. They've got bases all over the 236 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:25.759 world and we definitely part of ways in some ways. 237 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:28.360 When I first read your I think you sent me 238 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:30.559 an email and I was like, oh man, this is 239 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:34.399 going to be a really interesting conversation because back in 240 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:43.039 the day twenty years ago, my life has it's had 241 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:48.240 a really interesting journey. There was a long time there 242 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:54.000 where I was feeling really called to unreached people groups 243 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:57.919 missions through a different and I was looking into a 244 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:02.960 different way, and just for a certain number of reasons, 245 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.799 it just didn't work out. And but I think that, uh, 246 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:13.360 there was a reason. There was a while there a 247 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:15.759 few years ago where I was like talking to my 248 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:18.399 wife and I was like, I don't think I think 249 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:22.000 I can do something better for God than a big 250 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:24.639 Foot podcast. And she was like, no, I think you 251 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:29.519 should keep doing it because it's important and you're helping people. 252 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:31.840 And I was like, oh, I guess I am helping people. 253 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:35.399 I just didn't realize it. And then it has started 254 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:39.840 to kind of turn into something else where there are 255 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:45.639 discussions to do with you know, God and and and 256 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:48.120 things like that in addition to big food. So it's 257 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:53.240 it's very important. But so now that exactly it is 258 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:57.639 a ripple effect. And man, so I've got cancers, so 259 00:14:57.679 --> 00:15:02.600 I'm just I'm just talking for a minute, Austin. Have 260 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:07.960 you ever noticed how the people in this community, it's 261 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:10.440 a ton of people that have left the church. 262 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:11.399 Have you ever noticed that? 263 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:13.399 Yeah, I do. 264 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:17.279 It is quite It's like, yeah. 265 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:22.600 It's like the ultimate group of lost sheep. 266 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:23.600 It is. 267 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:27.879 It's very intense to think about, and my heart breaks. 268 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:30.759 I've I've had people that have reached out to me 269 00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:34.039 and that have been like I heard that interview and 270 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:38.279 you know, start going to church again. You hear that 271 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:41.279 from the Blurry Creatures guys too, and I'm sure that 272 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:46.159 the Confessionals guys have the same thing happened. But it 273 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:49.759 is really cool though, and trying to make the best 274 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:53.360 use of time because you don't you never know what 275 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:55.840 the future will bring. But Austin, so we've got the 276 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:59.559 we've got the groundwork late of why you're in Port 277 00:15:59.559 --> 00:16:04.279 Townsend and you're teaching these guys how to do greenhouse work, 278 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:08.799 how to make these gardens so that you know, people 279 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:11.639 around the world can hopefully be affected through that. But 280 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.039 then you had something happen, And I'm going to let 281 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:18.399 you go ahead and feel free to share with us 282 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:21.480 what happened to you during your time in poor Townsend. 283 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:25.360 The first experience I happened while I was there on 284 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:28.559 the base, and it happened relatively shortly in the time 285 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:31.120 that I got there, and I didn't see anything. But 286 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:33.039 I don't know if I think I emailed you and 287 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:38.159 said that I was out overlooking the bay at around 288 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:40.320 two am. I had a lot of time on my hands. 289 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:43.639 Everybody was on vacation and the base was really slow, 290 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:46.120 so I was just kind of being a night owl 291 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:48.960 and I was out there. It was like dead silent 292 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:53.519 and peaceful, and then I heard this just scream up 293 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:57.639 in the forest behind me, within like a like an 294 00:16:57.679 --> 00:17:01.679 eighth of a mile, and it sounded like it was 295 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:05.079 just on the other side of this small suburban neighborhood 296 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:09.839 that's right next to the base. And it was just 297 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:12.200 like quintessential what I've heard some of the people say 298 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:16.279 they've heard was like a like a maniacal woman in distress. 299 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:19.559 But then it went extremely high and really low and 300 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:25.000 really high and really low multiple times, and I'm for 301 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:28.359 just hey, mean, it was long. It was probably five 302 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:33.319 seconds plus, and I remember thinking, like, that's going to 303 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:35.839 wake up everybody in the neighborhood, Like people are going 304 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:38.359 to start turning on their lights and like you know, 305 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:41.200 coming outside and going what the heck was that? And 306 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:43.720 nobody woke up. I was really amazed because it was 307 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:46.240 out loud, like you you almost couldn't not hear it 308 00:17:46.279 --> 00:17:52.440 through your walls, and that one I kind of just 309 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:54.759 put it in the back of my head. I didn't 310 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:57.359 know whether what it could be. It's there's so many 311 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:01.799 cryptids out there, and it did necessarily sound ape like 312 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:05.640 it sounded human, but like a giant angry woman. That 313 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:10.319 was like a like a raging toddler kind of a sound. 314 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:14.839 It's really one of the harder things to put into words. 315 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:16.480 I think some of the other sounds I've heard them 316 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:18.440 make are a lot easier to put into words. But 317 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:21.599 that one was just all over the place. And I 318 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:24.960 made a post on the Big Foot Mapping Project about 319 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:27.759 that one, so people can click on that one and 320 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:32.720 see that same story right in that same spot. But 321 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:37.559 the next experience I had, the real the big one 322 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:43.319 happens then next that next winter, that next year, I 323 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:46.160 ended up parting ways with the bass and I wasn't 324 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:48.319 I was. I was allowed to stay in a place 325 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:50.559 for a couple of months while I was looking for 326 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:53.440 work and such. I didn't find any, and so I 327 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:56.720 just invested in some camping equipment, you know, a little 328 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:01.279 wood stove in a little tpee tent and some basic 329 00:19:01.319 --> 00:19:04.279 gear because I figured, Okay, the food banks are amazing 330 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:06.200 in that area, Like you can get like a thousand 331 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:08.240 dollars worth of groceries a week if you know what 332 00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:10.839 to pick out. It's all kinds of high quality food. 333 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:13.240 And so I was like, I'll be set in that 334 00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:15.960 way so I got a storage unit right right there 335 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:19.920 between Chimmiicum and Port Townsend, and there was a gym 336 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:22.440 there that I was able to go to and I 337 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:24.400 had access to Wi Fi, so I had you know, 338 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:27.759 I had little places for electricity like McDonald's, and I 339 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:30.519 actually was doing pretty well for a person who was homeless. 340 00:19:31.359 --> 00:19:34.480 And it all started. This is what three years ago 341 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:38.799 when I was and it was October November, I think 342 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:40.960 it was the beginning of November when I started this. 343 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:44.599 And yeah, I decided I'm going to try and camp 344 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:48.799 close to my storage unit so that it's just effective there. 345 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:51.119 The gyms are down the street. I can shower all 346 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:56.599 that stuff. And I found this deer trail that is 347 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:01.480 adjacent to the power lines that are right before the 348 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:06.799 entrance to Fort Townsend Historic State Park, and there's a 349 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:08.480 lot of forests in that area. It's one of the 350 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:12.440 thicker forested areas on the entire peninsula if you look 351 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:17.119 at Google Maps. And so I remember one night I 352 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:20.920 was at McDonald's in Port Townsend and this giant windstorm 353 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:24.240 came on. It was a very notable windstorm. It blew 354 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:27.160 down trees all over the peninsula and I had to 355 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:30.880 buy home. It's like ten pm. Oh no, no, it 356 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:33.440 was like nine. Got home, it was close to ten, 357 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:38.279 and I remember it was so quiet, like you know 358 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.160 the quiet after a storm when the wind fully comes 359 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:44.920 through and then it's just still, and I remember, yeah, 360 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:48.319 it's probably ten, ten thirty something like that, and I 361 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:52.640 hear coyotes go by on the power line trail. Nothing uncommon, right, 362 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:54.799 and there's some big coyotes in that area, but they 363 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:58.160 got their mind in their own business, and I just 364 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:02.599 thought that was cool. A few minutes go by, and 365 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:04.880 I remember it was on my phone when it happened. 366 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:07.519 I'm sitting like cross legged and my tent in there, 367 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:13.559 and I heard just really heavy footsteps coming up quickly, 368 00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:18.680 kind of like a jogging, long stride, running pace, not 369 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:26.400 like a sprint necessarily, but running. And it's probably like 370 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:28.720 it was using the same trail that I would use 371 00:21:28.759 --> 00:21:30.799 to get back to my tent, which makes sense. It's 372 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:34.279 the only real spot that you can move freely through 373 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:38.279 that section of forests. And the second it got around 374 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:40.200 the corner to where you can see my tent, because 375 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:43.359 I had my tent strategically out of you, nobody saw it. 376 00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:46.559 The entire time I was there because you would have 377 00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:49.680 to take this trail to get down to it. And 378 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:56.880 it stopped, and immediately I heard four really loud whoops. 379 00:21:57.119 --> 00:21:59.920 I mean, just like right, it just went right through me. 380 00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:03.359 They were like a like a just like a chimpanzee, 381 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:07.720 like almost identical to like an adult chimpanzee, with more volume. 382 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:13.799 And while it was whooping, it got return whoops from 383 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:19.319 what I believe was a like an alpha male, the 384 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:23.079 dad of the group. And there was just the lowest base, 385 00:22:23.559 --> 00:22:25.920 you know, like when you hear the lowest bass singers 386 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:29.160 out there. It was like an effortless, super low base, 387 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:33.279 and there was a tone to it. I could feel 388 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:37.960 like a like a concern in the male's voice it had. 389 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:41.240 It had a concerned tone like like, hey, don't mess 390 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:45.880 around with that, you know, come back over here. All 391 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:51.119 that was conveyed, but so so, this big, obviously heavy 392 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:56.359 sasquatch that's within thirty feet of my tent starts to 393 00:22:56.680 --> 00:23:02.240 circle my tent slowly, like very slowly, and I could 394 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:06.079 hear it take a step every now and then, and 395 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:08.319 each time I did hear a step, it was either 396 00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:10.759 you know, like six or twelve feet from where I 397 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:13.920 heard the last step which is, you know, with their stride, 398 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:17.480 how their stride is, and I could hear it crush 399 00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:22.279 twigs and crush the needles and anything that was relatively 400 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:25.640 dry enough to be crushed from heavy weight anytime it 401 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:27.480