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I 33 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:45.079 wanted to drop in here before we get into this 34 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:48.159 latest episode from North of the Border. We've got Fred 35 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:50.599 back here. The first thing you're gonna hear is Fred 36 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:53.799 interviewing a guy who had some experiences and they're out 37 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:56.560 on location. It's a really cool interview with this guy. 38 00:01:56.599 --> 00:01:59.239 He had something pacing him and stalking him in the woods. 39 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:01.400 It's a really story. If you want to see the 40 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:03.680 full video, I will link to it over on the 41 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:07.560 Sasquatch Odyssey blog. Head over to Paranormorialproductions dot com. Check 42 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:09.080 out the blog at the top of the page and 43 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:11.439 you can see this video in its entirety, and you 44 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:14.879 can see this area where he had this experience. The 45 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:18.400 second part of this episode is Fred sharing a really 46 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:22.680 wild encounter that two hunters from South America had while 47 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:26.479 hunting for a wolf and bear up in Alaska. Very 48 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:29.120 compelling story. I want to say something here about Fred 49 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:31.960 before we get into this episode. I have received tons 50 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:34.280 of emails from you guys that say you love Fred, 51 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:36.759 you love the stories that he shares in the podcast. 52 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:38.960 But there has been a few of you who have 53 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:43.080 chosen to leave negative reviews on Apple Podcast. The latest 54 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:45.400 one came in on Sunday and it says was a 55 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:47.919 good show. This was a great show when it started. 56 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:51.360 Now it's the Fred from Alaska show. The guy see 57 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:53.680 sasquatch in his soup and makes fun of people who 58 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:57.919 hire him as a guide. Sounds like a douche. Everyone 59 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:01.240 is entitled to their opinion about this show. I always 60 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:05.080 welcome listener feedback. But here's the thing. Let's be intellectually honest. 61 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:10.199 I put out three shows every single week Wednesday, Friday, 62 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:14.000 and Sunday. There's only one episode a week at most 63 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:17.080 that features Fred and the Stories from Alaska. The other 64 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:20.680 two are completely different. They have nothing to do with Fred. 65 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:23.759 So let's be honest. This isn't the Fred from Alaska show. 66 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:27.159 This is Sasquatch Honyssy. If you don't like Fred, don't 67 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:29.800 tune in and listen to those podcasts. There are other 68 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:33.120 episodes that drop every single week, at least two every week, 69 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:35.800 that are free to everybody. They're not behind the paywall. 70 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:38.759 Everybody can hear them when they drop. So if you 71 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:41.319 have a problem with Fred, don't listen to the one 72 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:43.599 episode a week that I put out that features Fred 73 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:46.560 and the stories from Alaska. But I'm going to continue 74 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:49.639 to feature these because I think they're very important. We 75 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:51.840 don't get a ton of those stories from Alaska. They 76 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.479 do share them with Fred because he is First Nations. 77 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:57.240 They trust him with their stories and he in turn 78 00:03:57.479 --> 00:03:58.439 puts them out. 79 00:03:58.360 --> 00:03:59.319 To the rest of us. 80 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:02.199 And they're just as important as any other encounter story 81 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:04.599 that we have ever featured on this show or will 82 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:06.000 feature in the future. 83 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:06.919 But enough of that. 84 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:08.439 I know you guys are ready to get into it. 85 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:10.520 Bread's on the line, He's ready to go. All this 86 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:13.319 left for you to do is sit back, relax, and 87 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:28.279 enjoy the show. 88 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:24.000 Is Fred and Alaska. Thanks for joining me. We're here 89 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:24.519 with Ryan. 90 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:27.360 He's taken us to a spot where he had some 91 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:29.600 things happen. He's gonna fill us in on that once 92 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:32.240 we get there. We're just north of Willow a little ways. 93 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:35.240 So I continued along the ridge line. This one behind 94 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:37.120 you here, This is a ridge line, he was telling me. 95 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:40.079 It wraps around going to circle in about four hundred yards. 96 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:41.600 That way is a swamp. 97 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:45.600 As I was coming up this ridge here, that's where 98 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:50.920 I initially heard another noise, like something just slowly moving 99 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:53.199 its way towards me, or maybe something coming up on 100 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:56.920 the game trail. Can't assume anything curiosity to me, I'm 101 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.000 gonna go that direction and check it out. Either it's 102 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:00.800 a bear, it's gonna win to go the other way. 103 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:02.920 But he was explaining to me he came here. 104 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.600 He was on the opposite side of this mound right here. 105 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:08.680 Go ahead, explain what you're explaining to me. 106 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:11.399 Came in from the ridgeline, came to the edge of 107 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:13.800 this paring. As I was coming this direction, I was 108 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:18.040 upsetting to see if this noise followed me and changed direction. 109 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:23.000 Wind did change. It was blown forwards. Whatever was there again, 110 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:25.920 we were talking about the bears. Once they smell it, 111 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:26.519 these show. 112 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:29.240 Away typically unless it's a problem bearer. Then that's a 113 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:31.000 cool different rodeo right there. 114 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:33.279 So I came to the edge of this clearing. The 115 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:36.959 noise was coming along and paralleling me. I was on 116 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:38.959 the far side of this mound. It was on this side. 117 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:42.639 It was maybe twenty twenty five yards away. I was 118 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:45.319 listening to it come in and it stopped, and my 119 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:48.120 dogs both were looking at me like it's time to go. 120 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:53.079 They were just all hackled up, just super alert and nervous. 121 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:56.399 I'm like, okay, let's go. Because it came in, it stopped, 122 00:05:56.560 --> 00:06:00.600 whatever it was, so I decided to leave started heading 123 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.879 back towards the ridge line. It started paralleling you. So 124 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:05.839 it sounded like it went over this ridge to. 125 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:07.399 The left, over this way. 126 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:11.399 Yeah, followed along the tree line. The trees open up, 127 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:15.879 and I'm going nor and it parallels me, and it 128 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:19.040 sounds like maybe sixty or seventy yards away. It was 129 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:22.439 loud enough you could hear it moving through the brush, 130 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.839 and it paralleled me all the way back almost to 131 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:27.040 the beginning of the trail. 132 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:29.959 Okay, so maybe half a mile here. Let's go to 133 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:31.279 the other side of this mound. 134 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:34.199 We're just giving a little perspective on the back side 135 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:36.439 of the mound, and we'll record from the other side 136 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:39.759 to give reference to what he's described. Because, like we 137 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:43.079 were saying, bears will wind you and take off before 138 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:45.839 you see him, or they'll hear you and circle until 139 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:46.680 they could wind you. 140 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:48.319 That's typical bear behavior. 141 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:51.959 Bears will not usually just come right up on you, 142 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:55.160 not typically, unless, of course, that's a real bad day. 143 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:59.040 You caught it off card, then that's a very bad day. 144 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:02.399 They write books about it far attacks in Alaska. Don't 145 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:05.279 read them before going camp in Alaska. But we're going 146 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:09.120 to navigate and negotiate this wide open terrain here on 147 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:10.199 the other side of this mound. 148 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:13.759 Here you were saying, I came in to this clearing 149 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:17.000 on this game trail. I was constantly listening to this 150 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:20.000 thin parallel to me as coming in and get about 151 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:24.160 another ten or fifteen yards here, it changes direction. As 152 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:27.439 soon as that mound gets in. It came right in. 153 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:30.360 I was right here, pat too, the little group of trees, 154 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:34.600 I would say, right with that big spruces. I couldn't 155 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:36.399 see it because this still had leaves on it. You 156 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:37.600 couldn't see through any of it. 157 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:40.040 Once you put leaves on that, I could squat down 158 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:41.120 in there. You'd never see me. 159 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:42.399 It just gets thick quick. 160 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:44.079 We were on the other side of it just a 161 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:47.279 moment ago. He was going on in the dusk, dealing 162 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:49.279 with this sink pacing him. You were saying, you were 163 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:50.920 just on the other side over here. Yep. 164 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:52.759 So I stopped here on the other side of these 165 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:55.720 trees and just listened for thirty seconds, and it was 166 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:58.240 almost like the thinking down the hill behind this mound. 167 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:00.839 That's when the dogs were just starting to freak out. 168 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:03.519 They weren't making any noise, but normally they stick right 169 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:05.480 next to me. They were both to where I could 170 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:08.319 barely see them, like fifty or sixty feet away, and 171 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:11.399 they're like looking at me. They were just super freaked out, 172 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:13.120 and they were like that all the way until we 173 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:13.959 got back to the car. 174 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:16.519 Just to play Devil's advocate, someone may say that was 175 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:19.160 a bear pacing him. That was maybe old and he 176 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:21.279 was looking for an easy meal. If that had been 177 00:08:21.319 --> 00:08:24.839 the case, typically there would have been grunting involved and 178 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:27.959 very clear hoffing from the bear teeth chatter. For that 179 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:30.800 close of a distance, a bear closing in like that, 180 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:34.279 they make certain noises that our tell tale I haven't 181 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:36.759 heard of anyone saying a bear came in super silent, 182 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:40.480 unless it was something being caught unaware type of deal. 183 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:43.039 Or maybe a black bear. Sometimes black bears get curious. 184 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:45.039 They'll come in, they sniff you, and then they leave. 185 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:49.120 But usually there's some sort of snorting or grunting that 186 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:53.720 you can easily perceive as, oh, that's bear activity. I'm 187 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:56.279 trying to cross off the list of suspects, right. And 188 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:58.480 the fact that it was pacing you and then was 189 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:01.720 coming in closer, that's the concern part that splashes. 190 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:01.960 In my mind. 191 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:03.919 Let's go ahead and continue on so you can lead 192 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.360 the way there. Yeah, we're not horribly far from homes. 193 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:09.679 There's some mushers that live back over that way with 194 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:12.320 their dog sled teams that run the Iditarod and whatnot. 195 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:14.919 But like I was saying, before you step off the 196 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:17.960 road anywhere north of Anchorage, even a near anchorage, you're 197 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:19.360 in the wilds of Alaska. 198 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:22.200 Even with all the leaves off the trees, there's a 199 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:23.200 lot of stuff. 200 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:25.960 This was the perspective that I had when it stopped. 201 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:29.440 And you can see the mound now, but before they 202 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.120 will lead and everything, and I was about ten or 203 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:35.320 fifteen feet closer. This is the perspective I had. So 204 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:38.360 the dogs left, I decided to follow the dogs. I'm like, 205 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:39.559 that sounds like a good idea. 206 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:40.879 Yeah, time to roll out. 207 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:44.679 Then when I started moving, I got about fifty or 208 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:47.919 sixty feet out, I heard it start moving around the ridge, 209 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:51.720 this little mound to the right. After that, it basically 210 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:54.480 pastes me out parallel all the way out to. 211 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:56.919 That other opening back over there. 212 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:58.600 All right, let's go over that way and then we 213 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:01.559 can check out that other that you were describing to 214 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:04.720 me on the way out. Just beautiful out here, man, 215 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:07.159 be a nice spot right here in this clearic for 216 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:10.320 a nice little cabin, and basically point anywhere it's a 217 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:11.639 good place for a cabin, all right. 218 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:14.519 So we're a couple hundred yards further up the trail here. 219 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:17.399 So I came out on the trail, hear this noise 220 00:10:17.480 --> 00:10:20.600 paralleling me maybe fifty sixty feet away in the woods. 221 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:22.799 It wasn't trying to be quiet. This is right about 222 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:27.000 the spot that I stopped hearing it, and we're almost 223 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:28.919 to the gravel bit we got out. 224 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:32.919 Right, so it stopped pacing him right in here right 225 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:35.320 behind us that it opens up into the gravel pit here, 226 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:36.360 let us continue on. 227 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:39.080 So the dogs were about one hundred feet into me. 228 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:41.679 They were just you didn't line in sight. So I 229 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:44.360 was in the corner. It'd be on this little ridge 230 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:45.840 and the run further. 231 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:46.799 Gotcha. 232 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:49.679 I came over this rig right here. They were both 233 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:52.559 standing in the middle of the pit daring that opposite 234 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:56.200 ridge plane, this one just straight ahead right yeah, at 235 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:59.399 Spruce Street that's about twenty feet tall there, about thirty 236 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:03.039 feet off Foller Trail. They were pointed like right there. 237 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:04.919 So I caught up to him because they weren't moving, 238 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:08.600 they were just sitting there, alerted, ears up, hackled up. 239 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:12.360 So I got to the dogs, just watched and listened 240 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:15.399 for a few seconds, and turned my flashlight on, lit 241 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:20.120 up the ridge line and waited. Couldn't see anything, but 242 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:22.960 I heard a shuffling noise. And there's a fairly steep 243 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:25.519 ridge behind this that goes down to a tree, and 244 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:30.480 I could hear something just slowly shuffling along. It got 245 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:34.159 about fifty sixty feet off to the right. I didn't 246 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:37.399 hear it anymore. I waited like another thirty seconds and 247 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:40.399 just kept bringing my light back and forth on that 248 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:42.679 tree line. I didn't hear anything from that. 249 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:43.200 Yeah. 250 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.559 See, with the way my mind works is that one 251 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:48.919 got the dog's attention, got your attention, Now you're focused 252 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:49.519 over here. 253 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:51.679 Yeah, that whole ambush. 254 00:11:51.720 --> 00:11:54.240 Those types of things is what really bothers me about 255 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:58.519 kind of encounters. So roughly that taller spruce there is 256 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:01.399 where the dogs were alerted to about a month ago. 257 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:04.879 The sun was going down a little bit later from 258 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:08.159 over this direction, it would be a perfect just everything 259 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:09.320 would be silhouetted. 260 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:11.440 It was dark, the sun was down at that point. 261 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:14.120 You had the dust after glow of. 262 00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:15.879 The sun twilight basically. 263 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:18.519 Yeah, And it wasn't dark enough needed a flashlight, but 264 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:21.240 I was like, that's a dark pitt of trees. I'm 265 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:22.879 gonna light it up and see what's there. 266 00:12:23.399 --> 00:12:27.759 Yeah, definitely, we're not all that far from dwellings. I 267 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:30.600 shared an experience with Jonathan, who lives in the area 268 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:34.759 somewhere around here in Willow that happened roughly a week ago, 269 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:37.279 but his experience was a little different than Ryan's. Ryan 270 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:41.799 didn't go through everything that Jonathan did, but we're within 271 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:44.320 reason of the same proximity. 272 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:48.120 Yeah, stop right here and lit up that tree line. 273 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:50.279 That was it, and then I could hear it shuffling. 274 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.279 It was about right there where I just couldn't hear 275 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:55.840 it anymore, and I waited, and then I went through 276 00:12:55.879 --> 00:12:59.159 because it's almost if it was a person and they're 277 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:01.720 waiting at the end. This is the one way to 278 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:02.840 get in and out of this area. 279 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:05.639 It's a funnel point, really a choke point, a good 280 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:09.720 ambush point. But again that's speculation. I'm not trying to 281 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:11.960 say that's what it was. I'm just saying if you 282 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:13.879 knew something was coming through a certain area and you 283 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:17.080 were hunting, and they're funneling through a small trail like 284 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:19.039 we're about to. 285 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:21.840 Go through here. It's wide enough for a pickup four wheelers. 286 00:13:21.960 --> 00:13:25.000 You could see the tracks in here from people coming through, 287 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:27.720 but it's all relative in the darkness. Right. 288 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:31.080 So here's that little creek up here, well. 289 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:33.120 Trump through that. I walked around and I don't have 290 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:36.360 on my water boots. But here's the backside of that ridge. 291 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:38.720 As you could see what he was talking about here, 292 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:43.120 it falls away pretty quickly here down this backside. Whatever 293 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:44.960 was making noise was further down. 294 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:47.240 That ridge just out of side of here. 295 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:50.919 I know there's all sorts of squirrel tracks, just game 296 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:55.799 tracks through here, especially moose. I haven't seen any predator tracks, 297 00:13:56.200 --> 00:14:01.000 but definitely an active area for snowshoe hair, squirrel, moose. 298 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:04.120 Isn't there a wolfpackground here somewhere? Is that one further 299 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:04.720 up north? 300 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:05.120 Oh? 301 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:08.000 Okay, all right, we're back at the starting point. But 302 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:09.960 there are some things that we didn't touch on. Now, 303 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.639 what were the feelings during this whole experience, because there's 304 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:17.799 that component to it. I think that is overlooked. What 305 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:19.919 did it feel like while this stuff was going on? 306 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:22.679 What were your inner feelings on it? 307 00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:26.759 When I changed direction and started coming off that ridgeline, 308 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:31.159 it's like a change direction with me. That's what initially 309 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:32.960 set off the alarm bells, and I was like, okay, 310 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:37.000 could be a curious bear. Whatever, let's see what's going on. 311 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:41.080 As it kept closing and closing, the wind changed directions 312 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:44.200 and started blowing towards it. I was like, okay, So 313 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:46.240 I stopped as soon as the wind changed because I 314 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.360 wanted to see what the deal. Is it going to 315 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:49.600 turn around? Is it going to leave or is it 316 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:52.600 going to continue? Right, the wind kept blowing its direction, 317 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:56.600 so it ended me and the dogs, and it kept 318 00:14:56.600 --> 00:14:59.440 coming and I'm like okay, So I started to turn 319 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:02.919 and back to the main trail. That's when it came 320 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:05.639 down on that clearing. And when it started coming down 321 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:08.399 on the opposite side of the little hump, that's when 322 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:12.200 my adrenaline just went up, because it's abnormal behavior for 323 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:16.360 a bear. It's what is this thing? I didn't see anything, 324 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:21.399 I just heard it. But it's just uncanny how it. 325 00:15:21.919 --> 00:15:23.799 It just stayed out a line of sight the whole. 326 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:26.519 Like a bear, usually they'll wind you, you'll see their 327 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:27.519 butt running away from. 328 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:29.919 You, or you'll hear them tear out of there. Just 329 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:30.399 crack it. 330 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:32.480 Because when bears are leaving, they don't give a shit 331 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:33.200 who's hearing them. 332 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:36.360 They're like, I'm the boss, I'm leaving. Yeah, they don't care. 333 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:39.080 This was not like that. The way it paralleled me 334 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:42.320 out Like the whole time, I was just adrenaline was 335 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:45.879 on the max and I wasn't panicked. Maybe if it 336 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:49.240 had started making noise, right, vocalizations or something like that, 337 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:51.519 then I might have started jogging. 338 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:53.480 You were trying to keep your cool, in other words, 339 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:55.240 and not get panicked by it. Yeah. 340 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:57.879 I got back to the trail. It was like, okay, 341 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:01.159 whatever I stopped, I couldn't hear it anymore. Getting back 342 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:04.200 to the car was fairly uneventful. 343 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:06.919 Once that one stopped making the noise basically behind you. 344 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:09.399 At that point you were coming to the clearing when 345 00:16:09.399 --> 00:16:12.279 the dogs alerted to the other side, to that other 346 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:14.080 small ridge we're pointing out. 347 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:16.559 What did that do to the whole experience? 348 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:19.600 Did that just totally change the whole thing? That just 349 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:21.720 the mindset of wait a minute, what's that? 350 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:24.679 Yeah, I can't really explain it. It was not like 351 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:27.480 a betrayal, but it was just a very uncanny feeling. 352 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:29.799 What really sketched me out on that was when the 353 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:31.960 dogs stopped. Because the dogs has been running ahead of me. Hey, 354 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:33.840 let's get away from whatever this is. But when they 355 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:36.840 stop like that, I've learned to listen to their body 356 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:40.440 language or body language in the woods just three for 357 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:42.240 a loop. And it took a couple of days, like 358 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:45.679 calm down from that, but it was really unsettling. Again, 359 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:49.600 didn't see anything but the sounds. How close they got 360 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:51.320 within twenty five yard. 361 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:55.240 Now, you're a lifelong Alaskan, you've been around bears before. 362 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:58.600 I have bears ever given you that sense of feeling 363 00:16:58.679 --> 00:16:59.879 to where it lingered. 364 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:02.759 No but you have a bearing counter. You might wake 365 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:06.440 up one crossing a field. There'll be fireweed four or 366 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:08.759 five feet high. They'll be bedded down for the day, 367 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:10.680 and you might stumble on one. I've done that before, 368 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:13.680 where I'm three feet from a bear. You both make 369 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:15.759 eye contact, both go opposite directions. 370 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:17.599 Yeah, you want nothing to do with each other, but 371 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:20.519 that initial startled after a few hours and you calm 372 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:23.799 down and just subsides and it's almost forgettable after that point. 373 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:25.920 Oh, that's a bear experience. That was a bear that 374 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:28.559 was spooked. Haven't run into a bear with cubs, luckily, 375 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:31.799 because yeah, they get pretty angry when that happens. 376 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:32.400 For sure. 377 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:36.079 That squirrel chatter is we've been down here almost a 378 00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:39.680 couple hours, there's been have you noticed any bird noises? 379 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:41.240 I haven't noticed any. 380 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:45.640 Typically we'd hear some, and I just heard a squirrel 381 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:49.200 trip over that way and that's the only sound outside 382 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:51.079 of the dogs over here. 383 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:53.000 Hey, thanks for joining us, Ryan and sharing. 384 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:56.119 With us, and stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to 385 00:17:56.119 --> 00:18:00.319 sy We'll be right back after these messages. 386 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:04.200 I wanted to share with you today was email a 387 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:08.640 little while back from Louis and Franco down in South America. 388 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:12.319 What intrigue me is these guys came up to Alaska 389 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:15.319 three years ago in the spring to do a wolf 390 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:19.079 and bear hunt combo. If anyone's ever researched guided hunting 391 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:22.759 trips of any kind in Alaska, you're looking at a. 392 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:25.400 Very heavy price tag, especially to be taken. 393 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:29.039 Where they went was just on the outskirts of Katmai 394 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:33.839 Wildlife Refuge down on the Alaska Peninsula. When they arrived, 395 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.039 it was for bear and wolf. When they got there, 396 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:40.359 it was a little early for the bear. The guy 397 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:43.000 told them the bears aren't moving as much, so it'd 398 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:45.519 be a perfect time to get those wolf tags filled. 399 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:48.680 Got them to the spot. Him and Franco had did 400 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:54.200 their background work. They took survival classes, bear recognition classes 401 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:57.759