Speaker 1: I tried going through the border. They wouldn't let me
through the border. I tried getting a boat across, and
I've planned ahead of time that I was gonna swim.
I'm like, this is so important to me. I don't
I don't care, like I'm gonna risk my life. I'm
gonna get into Israel. I don't care what it takes.
I'm gonna go to the spot that Ron White excavated.
I had spoken to his team, I'd spoken to everybody involved,
and there was two different ways to get into the cave,
and I felt like I could do it. But even
if if there was like a one percent chance of success,
I was still gonna risk my life to do this
for multiple reasons. One because it, in my opinion, the
only thing you should really put your life on the
line for is something like this. And also too, I
was really depressed, so it seemed like a win win,
like if I die, you know, it's like who cares?
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have another good episode for you. And this was one
of those God thinks, as I like to say. I
was on TikTok, and you know, I share these reels
and stuff every day, and I just happened to be
sharing some reels and somebody comment It was like, hey,
I got a friend that's got some really good information
that I think that you will want to hear. And
I was like, well, yeah, sure, hit me with it,
and so got the message in this woman and she
passed me this gentleman's information. And as soon as I
went to his TikTok account and got to look, and
I was like, I know this guy. I've seen this
guy somewhere. And turns out we have a mutual friend
with Trey Smith from God in the Nutshell. He's been
on some of Trey's documentary So that was pretty cool, man.
And we're gonna be talking today about one of my
favorite subjects. We're gonna be talking about the arc of
the Covenant, and we're gonna be diving into some of
Ron Wyatt's work. But i'd like to welcome to the
show for the first time Kevin Cash from the Art Movement. Kevin,
thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me Man, super appreciated. Yeah, I
love Trey Smith. Just did a documentary with him under
Gala Gotha. It's a great documentary. I pretty much had
to beg him to do the documentary. He was just
gonna post the interview with us where I wrote this article,
which is on the Facebook group Arc Movement. So that's
the movement I'm doing. The movement is to get a
confirmation that Christ's blood sprinkled onto the Arc. And he
I wrote this article and somehow somebody contacted him kind
of the same way it happened with me and you,
and he was super excited. He's like, dude, let's meet up, man.
So we met up. I went over the paper and
he was just going to post the interview and I
was like, dude, you should do a documentary. And I
kind of had to beg him a little bit and
then he he did it as a documentary and it's
super awesome under Galgatha. So if any of you guys
are Tray Smith bands, go take a look at it.
And then he just put a couple of clips of
me in, which is great because I don't I don't
want a lot of clips. I just want the information
getting out there. So he had like he had a
bunch of Kim Clement prophecies and his own clips of
the spot that Ron Wyatt excavated, and he added that
in and it's just it's it's incredible. It's an incredible documentary.
And then also I'm on TikTok. But yeah, man, I'm
so excited about this. I think that if this is true,
And I say if because I'm trying to take a
real humble approach, we don't know, We have no idea
because there's never been a confirmation as to whether the
has happened or not. So that's the Arc movement. The
Arc movement is to get a confirmation that Christ's blood
sprinkled onto the arc. So the way we would do
that is by getting a meeting with Benjamin Nett Yahoo
or an investigation of the site. That's really the only
way I think that we could get a confirmation. So
if this is true, I mean, it's just gonna be
a complete game changer, Like I can't even I can't
even put into words how much of a game changer
it will be. It's funny, Joe Rogan was talking about
this the other day and I got so excited because
a bunch of people were sending it to me. It
was like, I think it was maybe two or three
weeks ago, Joe Rogan was saying, if the Ark of
the Covenant's actually real, He's like, that's going to change everything,
And I was like, yes, yes, So that's what I'm doing.
So excited about it. And I think that if we
work together as a church. The goal is to work
together as a church to find out if this is true.
And if it is, man, it's like it's gonna change
everything for the rest of the time because people are
to know that that Christ was the Messiah, especially the
Jewish people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just from a thirty thousand foot view. Two,
it's a beautiful picture. And it kind of is like
legalistic in a way, and we know God is a legalist,
so it's like we know that Christ came shed his
blood to fulfill you know the law, right. You know
his last words on the cross, you know he said,
you know basically, you know, to tell us die he
means paid in full yep. And you know you had
the day of Atonement. They would go in that one
day of the year and sprinkle the blood on the
mercy seat and had that whole ceremonial type thing. So yeah,
what a picture perfect fulfillment, right if in fact Christ's
blood actually dripped on to this ark of the Covenant
literally and the evidence is feeling the law.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know, so the movement, I
get the movement's really twofold. It's to popularize the understanding,
So show everybody the evidence and then work towards getting
a confirmation because so many people right now, it's still
probably about ninety percent of Christians and pastors don't know
about this. Now that's changing a lot, and especially in
the last couple of years, there's been lots of viral videos.
Mitch Mueller off of TikTok, he put a video out
that got like ten million views. So pretty much everybody
on TikTok knows this, but the church at large, especially
the Boomer generation, they still don't know about this. So
part of the movement is to popularize the understanding. But
the evidence that this happened is extremely overwhelming. Like it's
when you get into it, there's a lot most definitely.
Speaker 2: Well before we get too deep into it, just give
everybody a little bit of background, just kind of introduce
yourself and let us know how this fail in your
lap and how this journey started for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the background is just really the backstory is really
really intense, Like it's super intense. But I had a
prophecy that came to pass in my life. I had
to do with Bob Jones. I don't know if you
know who Bob Jones is. He was a.
Speaker 2: US familiar, like a big evangelist.
Speaker 1: He was a prophet, and he's really similar to Kim Clement,
and Kim Clement prophesied a lot about the ark of
the Covenant that's already coming to pass, So I'm kind
of a big fan of both of them. We have
to be careful with modern day prophets, and I totally
understand that because a lot of Christians are like, well,
how do we know if they're telling the truth or not?
And I think that if, like people like Kim Clement,
he's called so much that have come to pass that
he's that he's passing the test of a true prophet.
So that tends me. That leads me to the fact
that he's probably I think he's spot on. I think
Kim Clement he was just he was blessed by God
and Bob Jones is similar. Okay, So he prophesied about
the Arc of the Covenant being found, and he went
into detail. He went into major detail, and he said
that that there needs to be specific. He even said
there needs to be specific dates to watch for, and
one of them was, this was back in the eighties.
I don't know if you know if you should follow
Sean Boltz. He's part of the prophetic community. He posted.
He posted several of Bob Jones's prophecies, but one of
them was this would all start to unfold when the
Chiefs win the Super Bowl. It's what he said, Like
back in the eighties, he was saying, when the Chiefs
win the Super Bowl, that's when all of this is
gonna start happening.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, like the Cubs winning the Panic.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, it's crazy though, man, because like the Chiefs
didn't win a Super Bowl for fifty years, so now
all of a sudden, you know, they're winning like all
of them. But yeah, So I had a prophecy come
to pass in my life that had to do with
the Ark of the Covenant, and so I thought, maybe
the Lord's leading me to the arc. So I prayed
about it. And before I knew anything about the scriptures,
before I knew anything about Ron Wyatt, I just said
to God. I was like, Hey, if this is the
past you want me to go down, You're gonna have
to give me authority in the matter because your people
aren't gonna listen to me. God. Christians, a lot, like Jews,
are kind of stubborn, especially when it comes to things
like this. There needs to be really, really, really good
evidence for a Christian to believe this. So I just
prayed to God. I was like, if you want me
to do this, give me authority in the matter. And
that I was weird way to pray it, but that's
how I felt like God was, you know, the Holy
Spirit was putting that on my heart. So it was
over the next several months I understood that the scriptures
say that this happened, that christ blood sprinkled under the arc.
And when I understood that the scriptures were saying this,
then I was like, I was super passionate. I just
got really passionate about it. I sold my house, I
sold my business. I started traveling and just going from
church to church, and that's where I really pick up
the story. Ron Wyatt. He found the arc. He was
the archaeologist who found it. He was not the only
one to see it. There was General Gordon in the
late eighteen hundreds. He also said that the arc was
in a cave at Calvary. So these are two archaeologists
one hundred years apart saying that the arc is in
the exact same spot, and the Bible was saying it's there.
So once I understood the Bible was saying it's there,
I just hit the ground running and I pursued this
with all my might. And that's what I've been doing
the last three years. I've been doing TikTok videos, trace myths,
documentary under Galgatha and just calling pastors telling them like
it's almost like the good news. Man, I'm so excited,
Like I have a hard time not being excited when
I'm talking about this.
Speaker 2: Right, and as any of your explorations actually took you
over to Israel yet.
Speaker 1: So that's a real, real crazy story when I first
found out about this. So my backstory coming up to
this is very very intense, and one of them was
is that the Lord was taking everything from me, which
is kind of I guess history repeats itself, because this
is how God generally gets somebody to do something thing
like he's kind of got to tear you down a
little bit. So I was losing everything. I lost it, yep, yep, yep.
And it talks about not looking back, like if you
head towards the ministry, you can't even look back. So
I was losing everything. In twenty twenty, I'd lost my business,
my house, uh, two ministries that I was a part
of my entire life, and I was really depressed. I'd
also lost a girl that I really loved and her
son and was basically my son. So going through that
caused severe depression. So when I found out with a
very high degree of certainty that the arc was at
the crucifixion site, I just my first thought was, well,
I'm going to go over there and find out. I'm
not gonna get on TikTok, I'm not going to do Facebook,
I'm not going to do all these different things. I
just decided to book a plane ticket at the time,
Israel was closed, so I snuck into Israel. I almost died.
Crazy story. I ended up getting I ended up getting caught,
which would sound like it wasn't God's will. But somebody
who really inspired me to do this was Ron Wyatt.
Actually he snuck into Saudi Arabia. I don't know if
you're aware of this, but Ron Wyat and his kids
snuck into Saudi Arabia because they believed they found Mount
Sinai because they thought they found the Red Sea crossing,
and then they wanted to see if they could find
Mount Sinai. So they snuck into Saudi Arabia and they
ended up getting captured and spent seventy days in jail,
and it was quite miserable. They thought they were going
to die. And so once they caught me, I was
really upset and angry and bitter because I was just
trying to do something for God, like my life didn't matter.
And I was like, God, I you know, I just
basically put my life on the line for you. So
I ended up I only spent seven days in jail.
But when I got out and I got back to America,
I was really depressed for a while, and I thought
about giving up on this movement because I was like,
maybe it's not God's will. You know, if you're wrong
on things, you kind of got to reevaluate your life
and I thought, maybe this isn't God's will. So I
prayed about it a little bit, and I the reason
one of the reasons I did not want to give
up is because I truly believe the Bible is saying this.
The christ blood sprinkled onto the arc. So at that
point I can't give up because the scriptures are the
ultimate authority. So I was just thinking of myself. I'm like, well,
maybe I'll take a different approach. And I was kind
of him hauling around a little bit bitter. But once
I found out that I stayed in the same jail
as Ron Wyatt for the exact same crime. Like, once
I figured that out, I actually like really teared up
and I was I was just crying, and I told God,
I was like, Okay, I'll double down on this again.
You know, I understood that it's not God's will that
I do this alone. I think that was the message
that God was trying to tell me. This isn't something
you can do alone. This is something that you have
to do as a church as a whole. And so
that inspired me to do the movement, me me sneaking
into Israel and getting caught, and then I almost died
It was a real, real crazy story. But I I
where they I had to in order to sneak into Israel.
The border was closed, so I just decided to swim
through the Red Sea and it was it's the last
person who did that was trying to blow up a boat.
They told me it was like fifteen years ago. Was
the last person to swim the Red Sea. And they
killed him. They shot him and killed him. So yeah,
I was like super upset. But after I got out
of jail and I and I realized that I stayed
in the same cell as Ron White for the exact
same crime, I was like, maybe maybe God's repeating himself
a little bit.
Speaker 2: So use in prison in Saudi Arabia Jordan.
Speaker 1: Okay, so here's what happened. Because everybody's like, you would
you how.
Speaker 2: Did you go to jail when they were transferring m
yep yep, Because they transferred him transfer they hailed him
in Jordan before he is flat home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he he snuck into Thought Arabia through the
Jordanian border, which was just south of where I was at.
So the hotel I tried going through the border, they
wouldn't let me through the border. I tried getting a
boat across, and I'd planned ahead of time that I
was gonna swim. I'm like, this is so important to me.
I don't I don't, I don't care, like I'm gonna
risk my life. I'm gonna get into Israel. I don't
care what it takes. I'm gonna go to the spot
that Ron White excavated. I'd spoken to his team, I'd
spoken to everybody involved, and there was two different ways
to get into the cave, and I felt like I
could do it. But even if, even if there was
like a one percent chance of success, I was still
gonna risk my life to do this for multiple reasons.
One because it, in my opinion, the only thing you
should really put your life on the line for is
something like this. And also too, I was really depressed,
so it seemed like a win win, like if they
if I die, you know, it's like who cares? Right?
So in combination, when you when you understand my backstory,
it kind of makes sense. But the hotel I stayed
at was just south of Akaba, Jordan, which is where
they snuck into Saudi Arabia. Where wrong? Why it's stuck
into Saudi Arabia? So I'm curious to know if we
actually stayed in the same hotel, because when he told
the story of sneaking into Saudi Arabia, him and his
kids said that they were at the hotel and they
prayed about it and they just felt like God was
telling them to do this, all three of them. And
I'm assuming that they were probably on the southern side
of Akabud, so we may have actually stayed in the
same hotel. I'm not sure, but it's kind of the
same thing. Man. I just prayed about it and I
was like, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it.
And I know now that doing that was extremely beneficial
for the movement, like beyond words can even describe, because
now people accuse me a lot of doing this per fane.
They're like, Oh, you're just doing this for Fae. You're
doing this because you want to be popular, you want
to get views on TikTok, And I'm like, yeah, but see,
there's a problem because before I ever shot a video,
I was risking my life for this. That's how much
I believe. So I think the Lord is going to
use it dramatically in the future, and I think that
God is already using it in Ron Wyatt's situation. Ron Wyatt.
People call Ron Wyat a fraud all the time. They're like,
Ron Wyatt was a fraud, and I'm like, yeah, see
the problem I have with that. People don't sneak into
foreign countries at the cost of their own life and
their kids' lives because when they when they snu when
they snuck into Saudi Arabia, they knew they were risking
their lives. So so people don't do that unless they
actually believe what they're saying. That's one of the reasons
I believe Ron Wyatt because he wouldn't he wouldn't sneak
into Saudi Arabia and risk him in his kids' lives
unless he actually believed he found the Red Sea crossing.
So it gives them, It gives Ron Wyatt a lot
more credibility, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was having that discussion similar just the other
day on I think it was on YouTube. Somebody had
left a com in on one on my shows and
said Jesus never existed, and I just replied back, you
know which, I'm learning not to reply to all these people,
but sometimes I just can't resist, and I've just replied back,
and I said, duh da Nile n il E. I said,
denial is more than a river in Egypt. My friend,
I said, you're talking about the most historically documented man
on planet Earth. Yeah, I said. In furthermore, I said,
people do not willingly get tortured and die for a lie.
All those apostles, all they had to do was say, oh,
I made it up yep and saved their life. But
they didn't. People don't go willingly through torture and die
for a lie.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I tell people now too, the same thing.
I was like, Look, man, I wouldn't be doing these
things unless I actually believed, you know, and I think
that Ron Wyatt, he was really inspiring and his kids. Man,
it's the same story over and over again. God uses
these people that aren't super wealthy, they're not very powerful,
they're just kind of your average Joe, and they are
sold out to Jesus. And Ron Wyatt and his kids
were sold out to Jesus. I know they were because
they risked their lives. Like, no, people don't do that
unless they actually believe. So, I think they found the
Red Sea Crossing, like his kids were there. Actually, they're
the ones who found the chariot wills, the chariot wheels,
and the Red Sea. They found them. So his kids
believed too. They all believe they found the Red Sea Crossing,
and I think they did. There's a good evidence that
they found it. So, you know, for them sneaking in
to find Mount Sinai, it was worth it. It's worth
your life risking your life for something that that important,
you know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I agree. Well, Kevin, before we go any deeper,
just for those that are not familiar with the story,
kind of give us just like an overview of Ron
going to Israel and the kind of the backstory of
that if they're not familiar with it, because I don't
want to assume that the people lit know. So just
kind of give us like a little overview of the
story and then you can walk us through some of
your facts and findings.
Speaker 1: Yes, so ron Wyatt was him and his kids. They
were at the Red Sea. They'd believe they found the
Red Sea crossing, and he got sunburned really bad as
they were scuba diving. And this is when they were
looking for the Cheriot wheels. So he went up north
to Jerusalem just to kind of see the different sites,
and he was walking in the Garden Tomb and he says,
Ron White says, his hand lifted up supernaturally. He did
not move it, and the words came out of his mouth.
There's Jeremiah's Grotto and the Ark of the Covenant is
in there. And so the fact that that happened to him,
he knew that it was God and he knew that
the arc was there. So he went ahead and went home.
He's like, I got to go home and research this.
He went home and researched it and realized that the
spot that the Angel of the Lord had him point
at was the exact spot that cried was crucified. Okay,
so the Bible tells us where Christ was crucified with
pretty stunning accuracy. It's not the Church of the Holy Seplicker.
I know a lot of people believe that. But when
you break it down, the spot Christ was crucified is
the Garden tomb. It's known as Calvary or Galgatha. So
the evidence is extremely overwhelming that he was crucified there
for multiple reasons. One, it has the skull face on
the mountain and the place was called the place of
the School. Also, history records and archaeology records that that's
where they crucified people and stone to them. And then
one of the big pieces of evidence that people don't
know is John nineteen forty one says that where Christ
was crucified the exact same spot he was crucified. It
doesn't say nearby. Says the same spot he was crucified
was the same spot he was put in the tomb.
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Speaker 1: So the tomb is right around the corner. It's just
right like where they crucified people. If you go right
around the cliff is where the tomb is. And the
Bible describes the tomb an extreme detail. It describes it.
And I have all this on my If you go
to the Facebook group ARC Movement and you click on
files and download the paper The Throne of God. I
give all of the scriptures. So so Ron Wyatt was
excavating the spot that Christ was crucified, and he knew this,
and his kids knew this. They knew and they understood
that he was looking for the arc. But they kept
running into these square post holes in the bedrock. So
where Christ was crucified was bedrock. It's hard to see
in the picture, but this cross right here, it's rock
in the background. This is all rock. Where Christ was
crucified was known as Solomon's Quarry, so it was solid bedrock.
And they kept finding these square holes in the bedrock,
and they were thinking, maybe that's where the Roman soldiers
put the crosses. Okay, so they found this one cross
hole in particular. They had been digging for quite a while.
They've been digging for like at least a year or two,
and they found this, uh, this square hole that had
a stone over it. So they put the square stone
over this hole, and when they lifted the stone inside
of it was a Tiberius coin. So they started freaking
out and they thought, oh my gosh, we found the
actual crucifixion side of Christ. Or they were thinking that
because a Tiberius coin is from the time of Christ.
They didn't know for sure that it was Christ's actual
crucifixion site. But they kept digging and dig in, and
it was like a year later they broke into a
cave that was right beside that spot. Well, ron Wyatt
explored the cave and he found the Arc of the
Covenant directly below the spot that they already believed Christ
was crucified at, because they'd find they had found a
Tiberius coin from that time. So ron Wyatt, he'stook a
he took the end of a tape measure and broke
it off, and he said that he was barely able
to get it through the crack where the post hole
was where they'd put Christ across. He was able to
get the tape measure to go through the crack, and
it was twenty feet below in the cave where the
Ark of the Covenant was at. And so at that
point he realized that Christ's blood sprinkled onto the arc
because the Bible says the rocks were rent, and he
had understood that when the Roman soldiers pierced his side
and the blood and water flowed, that's when it says
the earth quaked and the rocks rent. So where Christ
was crucified was a quarry it's talking about the quarry
at the cross is where it rent. And so the
ground broke open and his blood sprinkled onto the mercy seat.
And what's interesting about this is Ron Wyatt isn't the
first person to find it. And a lot of people
don't know this, A lot of people are very unaware.
But Ron Wyatt he knew that General Gordon was he
had excavated. He was. General Gordon was a map surveyor
in the late eighteen hundreds and he believed the Garden
Tomb was where christ was crucified and he popularized that understanding.
So and the late eighteen hundreds Christians they purchased the property. Well,
the thing is is General Gordon he never said anything.
We didn't know anything about him finding the Ark of
the Covenant until twenty eleven. So with some of his grandkids,
they released some of his journals and in one of
his journals he'd wrote down that the arc is in
a cave at Calvary and within the Garden Tomb. So
so this was not released until twenty eleven. So Ron
Wyatt never knew that General Gordon found it, and obviously
General Gordon never knew that Ron Wyatt found it because
General Gordon was one hundred years before Ron Wyatt. So
we have two people in history that both have excavated
this spot that are saying the Arc of the Covenant's there,
both of them one hundred years apart, and neither one
of them knew the other one found it. And it's
like it's totally a god thing, you know. So Ron Wyatt,
somebody posted a video to my Facebook group Arc Movement
and it was a guy he just he contacted me
and he said, hey, I have a video of Ron
Wyatt that's never been released. He goes, the reason I
know it's never been released is because it's my video.
I recorded it at my church. He's like, can I
post it on the Facebook group? And I was like, yes,
this is like gold literally, like we don't have any
recordings of Ron Wyatt anymore. So he posted it on
the group and in the video, this is the first
time this video has ever been published, was like six
months ago. And in the video, Ron Wyatt says General
Gordon got within ten feet of the cavern that has
the arc at the Covenant. So somehow Ron Wyatt knew
that General Gordon got close, but he didn't know that
General Gordon ever found the arc. So so that's that's
the archaeological side, right, So that's the archaeological side. We
have two people in history both saying it's there. Then
when I where I pick up the stories the scriptures,
that's where I pick up the story. But Ron Wyatt,
I think found it. He worked really, really, really really hard.
For those who don't know, he died in nineteen ninety nine,
and him and his kids they excavated for ten years
and he tried getting the arc out and that was
a whole other topic that was not God's will. But
that's why a lot of people call him a fraud.
They're like, oh, he's a fraud because he said he
found the arc, but he never provided evidence. And I
tell people all the time, I'm like, just because you
didn't find any evidence, or just because you didn't present
any evidence, doesn't mean he didn't find it. I know
he found it because of the scriptures. That's how I
know he found it.
Speaker 2: And one thing that I found just kind of hard
was Christians today. It's like, yeah, we profess that we
believe that you know, Jesus was casting out demons, that
he was healing the sick and the blind, that he
walked on water, that he died and resurrected after three days.
You know, these are very supernatural things, you know. There
we classify them as miracle, yep. But we profess with
our mouth daily that we believe these things. Yep. But
when you try to talk about you know, hey, I
had an experience, I seen an angel, or I seen
a demon, you know, or any kind of you know,
supernatural type experience, You're immediately dismissed and not believed by
the Christians because they're the biggest skeptics. And I'm just like, guys,
that's so asked backwards. It's like, if you believe what
you say, you believe this stuff should be right in
line with your faith. It's like they think that after
the Cross, it's like everything stopped. There's no more prophecy,
there's no more revelation, there's no more encounters. It's just
all that stuff stopped. And it's like, so it's just
very hypocritical. It's when people hear this story of Ron
Wyatt and he says that some angels appeared before him
and said that he you know, the world was not
ready for it yet.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: That it would be revealed in its time yep, and
that they were going to take it. Oh, he's a liar.
He just made all that up, you know. And it's like,
it's just mind blowing to me that we had this very,
very supernatural faith. But it's it's like the book stopped,
you know, in the time of Jesus. There's no more
supernatural stuff happening. It's just very hypocritical.
Speaker 1: It's really sad. And what's interesting is there's a long
history of angels in this spot. A lot of people
don't know, but the spot Christ was crucified is also
the same spot that Abraham went to sacrifice Isaac. It's
also the same spot that Jacob saw the stairway going
into heaven. Now a lot of people don't know that
one because that's from the Book of Joshure. It says
that where he saw the stairway going into heaven was
Mount Mariah. Mount Mariah's where Christ was crucified. So according
to the Book of Joshure, this is the spot where
Jacob saw angels ascending and descending. So when ron Wyatt
said he spoke to an angel there, I was like, well,
that is the gateway to heaven and I believe that,
you know, it's one of those things it's hard for
Christians to believe in the supernatural, and it's like, why
is it so hard to believe in the supernatural?
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