Speaker 1: We'll start the four o'clock hour right now with some
Speaker 1: football with one of our favorites, one of the best
Speaker 1: to ever do it. At the you spend some time
Speaker 1: with the Steelers, good enough to give us some time
Speaker 1: on a Monday afternoon, it's Sly Stevens and Sylvester. Happy Monday. Sly,
Speaker 1: how are we doing?
Speaker 3: Happy Monday? Brother? How are you good? Man? Good?
Speaker 1: So let's do a little NFL before we dig into
Speaker 1: some Utah football.
Speaker 2: We do have some Utah football news that we'll talk about.
Speaker 1: I've been struggling to find the accurate Patrick Mahomes analogy.
Speaker 1: The one that feels right to me is Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: as somebody who spend time around the Jazz and the
Speaker 1: Knicks in the nineties because every time, and look, we
Speaker 1: could expand it to the Sonics with with Gary Payton
Speaker 1: and Sean Kemp we could talk about Barkley and the
Speaker 1: Suns like every time it seemed like there was a
Speaker 1: team that was ready to beat Mike, they just couldn't
Speaker 1: get it done unless Michael Jordan was playing baseball instead
Speaker 1: of basketball. What's the what's the accurate Patrick Mahomes analogy?
Speaker 1: Now that you know they're back in the super Bowl
Speaker 1: once again.
Speaker 3: I don't even know, man, that's a the great question.
Speaker 4: I think he's becoming into a league of his own, right,
Speaker 4: you know, the opponents that he has to beat year
Speaker 4: in and year out, he's young or old, he's taking
Speaker 4: him on and making it happen, right, and he.
Speaker 3: Can appreciate that. I mean, I would have to go.
Speaker 4: I don't think he's beat Tom Brady right in the
Speaker 4: AFC Championship and then in the Super Bowl against the Buccaneers.
Speaker 4: That may be his only guy that he's you know,
Speaker 4: lost multiple games to. Two of the three losses in
Speaker 4: his playoff career on his seven eight year NFL career
Speaker 4: have been to Tom Brady.
Speaker 3: So Tom Brady may be his Achilles heal.
Speaker 4: But you know, right now, Pat Mahomes, I think he's
Speaker 4: just one being under thirty and now going to what.
Speaker 3: Is fourth super Bowl, fourth or fifth super Bowl?
Speaker 4: This guy is uh, he's he's creating his own class
Speaker 4: man and it's awesome what he's been able to do.
Speaker 4: I've said this, I it's hard to you know, aside
Speaker 4: from you know, the favorable calls, they it's hard to
Speaker 4: you know, hate what they do. They've gotten to the
Speaker 4: super Bowl in so many different ways. And that's what
Speaker 4: great teams do, right, you get there with what you have.
Speaker 3: He's got there within.
Speaker 4: An epic passing attack where nobody can slow them down
Speaker 4: in the passing tack. He's gotten there with an amazing
Speaker 4: running game right where he's had to use his legs
Speaker 4: or his running backs have been great. He's gotten there
Speaker 4: with none of his receivers having a passing touchdown all
Speaker 4: year and just the tight ends. And now he's getting
Speaker 4: there with beating everybody. And so fifteen to two record
Speaker 4: on the season, you know, just going through these playoffs,
Speaker 4: knocking off CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud, knocking off Josh Allen.
Speaker 4: He's just putting himself in position just to be in
Speaker 4: a class of his own man.
Speaker 3: So it's pretty it's pretty great to see and witness.
Speaker 1: Sly, they've won seventeen straight one score games, Like it's
Speaker 1: wild to consider how he's grown, because when he burst
Speaker 1: on the scene, you know, Alex's backup and then he
Speaker 1: gets the job and he really became uber famous because
Speaker 1: of his big playability with Tyreek Hill back then and
Speaker 1: a prime Travis Kelcey, and you know, if you had
Speaker 1: one of them in fantasy football, you were winning every
Speaker 1: week and that was kind of the thing. Now he's
Speaker 1: grown into this dude that just figures it out as
Speaker 1: somebody who played you know, pro football on the defensive side,
Speaker 1: what what what are the biggest challenges that a player
Speaker 1: who has the athletic ability and has now grown into
Speaker 1: a cerebral thinker and then that offensive set and you know,
Speaker 1: ultimately the execution by their head coach Andy Reid? What
Speaker 1: are the biggest challenges when it comes to trying to
Speaker 1: just crall him enough to give your offensive chance to
Speaker 1: score enough points to beat him.
Speaker 4: It's difficult one being and you know, I'm watching these
Speaker 4: games and.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, how do I game plan against that?
Speaker 3: And you can't? Like.
Speaker 4: What I always talk about quarterbacks is their ability to
Speaker 4: make pre snap reads. And so what I pay attention
Speaker 4: to the most when I'm watching Kansas City is what
Speaker 4: is Patrick Mahomes looking at before the snap?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: What is he determining? Is what is he seeing that's
Speaker 4: gonna determine the play that he runs right from from?
Speaker 4: You know, every play they have multiple plays called in
Speaker 4: the huddle, from running play number one or play number
Speaker 4: two or audibling into a completely different play.
Speaker 3: What is he seeing? Man? I love him setting up
Speaker 3: the protections.
Speaker 4: You know, Kansas City uses the odd odd front, the
Speaker 4: even even front, and that's how they determine who's their
Speaker 4: mic and and what the defenses is about and how
Speaker 4: to attack it. But like his ability to be on
Speaker 4: the same page as his receivers, right, Like that throw
Speaker 4: he made the Juju smith sus late in the game
Speaker 4: to give him that thirty yard game.
Speaker 3: It was just over the linebacker's head.
Speaker 4: But he had to wait right until that window came open,
Speaker 4: and he knew it was coming open. Even some of
Speaker 4: the things you see is he's like, it's Cover two
Speaker 4: is cover two, right, And what's a great thing to
Speaker 4: run against Cover two? Running the football? Cover two is
Speaker 4: a six man box and you got six or seven blockers.
Speaker 4: It's always good to run the ball against that. And
Speaker 4: so him calling that out pre snap is just awesome.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like you said, man, he's had tons of
Speaker 4: weapons over the years, and just seeing his growth and
Speaker 4: what he's going to be able to do here in
Speaker 4: the next couple of years, it's good that he's in
Speaker 4: the AFC because I think the AFC is just loaded
Speaker 4: with talent for now and in the future. So but
Speaker 4: he's definitely getting his now, and you know, he's only
Speaker 4: a few super bowls away from even getting close to
Speaker 4: some franchises and even Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's twenty eight years old. The problem is Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes is twenty nine. And you know, I feel about
Speaker 1: Josh the same way I feel about Lamar, the same
Speaker 1: way I felt about Aaron Rodgers before he finally got his.
Speaker 2: I actually for.
Speaker 1: Four or five years watching Aaron Rodgers play quarterback, and like,
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this. He has to get
Speaker 1: multiple super Bowls, but he only got one and breaking
Speaker 1: news he's not going to get another.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that won against me. I hate it.
Speaker 1: I know, man, I know, I'm sorry sorry to bring
Speaker 1: it out, but but my point is, like I just
Speaker 1: think Josh and Lamar I think they're too good. I
Speaker 1: would be stunned if both of them, quite frankly, finished
Speaker 1: their pro football careers the way Dan Marino did without
Speaker 1: a ring. Right, So where are you at today on
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and the potential of him to finally breaking
Speaker 1: through at some point.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got he's gotta stay.
Speaker 4: He gotta stay, even killed man, you know, these are
Speaker 4: just tough days right here, and you just kind of
Speaker 4: understand that, like it does get better, right and and
Speaker 4: you will. Unfortunately, some of the greats that are compared
Speaker 4: to have won early, and so you know he's thinking
Speaker 4: like I haven't got mine, So.
Speaker 3: Am I not enough? And so that sucks.
Speaker 4: But you know, ultimately, if he can he can keep
Speaker 4: his mind in it and and make sure that he's
Speaker 4: competitive each and every year, which I think he does.
Speaker 4: I think he's winning in other aspects of life, and
Speaker 4: so it's not gonna seriously hurt him, but like it's
Speaker 4: fresh straight and not getting to that point.
Speaker 3: But he's got to understand, like, look, I got out of.
Speaker 4: The season healthy. I can go into next season understanding
Speaker 4: exactly what I need to do. Right, we got the
Speaker 4: number two overall overall record and we were second in
Speaker 4: the AFC. I need to get that number one seat
Speaker 4: so I can have home field advantage, right, Like I
Speaker 4: hate going to Kansas City? How do I not go
Speaker 4: to Kansas City? So they need to do what they
Speaker 4: need to do and make sure they have the number
Speaker 4: one seed. That's first things first. So you just regame
Speaker 4: plan and retool the next year's but again, like you said,
Speaker 4: those guys are young, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. You know
Speaker 4: now Jalen Hurts is in that mix, and and even CJ.
Speaker 4: Stroud is coming up, and we now see Jalen Daniels
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 3: Like, there is some lot of young talent in here,
Speaker 3: and and so it's gonna be open market for a
Speaker 3: lot of guys. He's just got to keep in it
Speaker 3: and ride his experience.
Speaker 1: All Right, you're an NFL general manager. Lamar Jackson and
Speaker 1: Josh are about twenty eight, and I said, you can
Speaker 1: have one or the other.
Speaker 2: Who do you pick? And why?
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, this is a great question. I answered this
Speaker 4: before the divisional game the Bills and the Ravens. I
Speaker 4: like Lamar Jackson, Right, And here's the reason why, Welle,
Speaker 4: Josh Allen's great. The way he delivered the ball last night.
Speaker 4: I don't put that game on him. I mean, you
Speaker 4: look at it. They lost by three, They had multiple
Speaker 4: two point conversion fails. There's just a lot of things
Speaker 4: in that game that could have went the other way.
Speaker 4: And you know, storylines whatever. But like if I were
Speaker 4: to start a franchise with or say expansive franchise and
Speaker 4: I could take one of those two guys. I'm taking
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, you know, both of them. It's sad we
Speaker 4: can't beat Patrick Mahomes and they have loaded all star rosters.
Speaker 4: But I got Lamar Jackson because if I can get
Speaker 4: you know, half these guys to to come up and
Speaker 4: deliver the football the way is because like Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 4: he's not gonna run as much as his uh as
Speaker 4: his career keeps going right. But you take a slow
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson versus a stagnant quarterback, I'll take that all day.
Speaker 4: And Lamar Jackson he doesn't take hits. He's very smart,
Speaker 4: he gets down. He needs to get better with taking
Speaker 4: care of the football. Those careless fumbles that we saw
Speaker 4: in the divisional round, you can't do that, but that's
Speaker 4: something that can be learned. But the way he delivers
Speaker 4: the ball, his accuracy, his ability to extend plays and
Speaker 4: and and get away from people. I think he's faster
Speaker 4: than Jayden Daniels and and and that's.
Speaker 3: Saying something right.
Speaker 4: And so I take you know, Lamar Jackson for his accuracy,
Speaker 4: efficiency and his ability to to just make offense non
Speaker 4: are unsoppable, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So this Dad continues to blow me away because
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is four and one in the regular season
Speaker 1: against Patch Mahomes and the Chiefs, but he's zero to
Speaker 1: four in the postseason against the very same Chiefs and
Speaker 1: the very same quarterback and the very same head coach.
Speaker 1: You're a guy that played regular season football in college
Speaker 1: and you won a Sugar Bowl against Alabama in College're
Speaker 1: a guy that played regular season football in the NFL
Speaker 1: and you had playoff experience as well. What gives man,
Speaker 1: what's the difference. What's the difference between being able to
Speaker 1: be successful against the team in the regular season and
Speaker 1: just not being able to get anything done as far
Speaker 1: as beating them and sending them home come playoff time.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it goes to the point of what
Speaker 4: really matters, right, And so yeah, playoff football matters. Whether
Speaker 4: you're the succeed or the number one seed, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: You got to get the job done. But for me,
Speaker 4: you know, I hate that everybody puts it on one person.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Everybody saw the game. Everybody saw the Eagles and Commander's
Speaker 4: game too. Jaden Daniels played great. Who would have known
Speaker 4: there would have been those three timely turnovers.
Speaker 3: To just put the commander's back.
Speaker 4: Commanders came back after that, sakwon Barkley early touchdown and
Speaker 4: was in it. It was still good. And you know,
Speaker 4: it's more than that one person. So Josh Allen met
Speaker 4: it's hard to put it all on him and his record.
Speaker 3: Of course, you're the quarterback.
Speaker 4: You get the bear all of the negative as well
Speaker 4: as the positive.
Speaker 3: So you got to do that.
Speaker 4: But you know, guys dropping balls, defense, not being able
Speaker 4: to do their job, and you know, the injuries that
Speaker 4: the Buffalo had on defense, you know, didn't enable them.
Speaker 4: Von Miller essentially not as great as he is, as
Speaker 4: much money as they're paying him, you know, so maybe
Speaker 4: it's time to move.
Speaker 3: On for him from him.
Speaker 4: You know, there's other factors in that, right, You got
Speaker 4: to slow Patrick Mahomes down to give josh Allen an
Speaker 4: opportunity as well, and that just doesn't happen. So there's
Speaker 4: a lot of factors that go into making that happen.
Speaker 4: It's unfortunate that, you know, Josh Allen can't get it
Speaker 4: done in the playoffs with that, but it's hard to
Speaker 4: put it all on one person. Just learning and hopefully
Speaker 4: he can pass on his experiences and his knowledge of
Speaker 4: these situations to the new guys on the team when
Speaker 4: it comes up again.
Speaker 1: So a couple of local ties here. First of all,
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that final pass. I don't know how
Speaker 1: Josh got it off. But our guy Dalton, you know, like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm sure he wants that one back, tough
Speaker 1: play to make, but you know, if Dalton watches the
Speaker 1: replay will probably tell you that he should have should
Speaker 1: have grabbed it. What were your thoughts and what's your
Speaker 1: take on the day after after watching Dalton drop that
Speaker 1: pass that really could have changed the entire thing.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I've been there, I've dropped it. I've
Speaker 3: dropped the ball like that.
Speaker 4: It's hard to win the ball being in the air,
Speaker 4: understanding where it's at because he, you know, Josh Allen,
Speaker 4: being under duress, he didn't know where that ball was
Speaker 4: going to land. Is it going to be short, is
Speaker 4: it going to be long? Judging into the air in
Speaker 4: real time, understanding the heat of the moment it being
Speaker 4: forth down, all of that all that comes into play,
Speaker 4: and so like for me, it's like, I've been there,
Speaker 4: I know I've misjudged it.
Speaker 3: If it was a drop and a different point of.
Speaker 4: The game, nobody really even thinks about it.
Speaker 3: It sucks.
Speaker 4: It sucks in that moment, but you know, this is
Speaker 4: Dalton's second year. He's only gonna get better. You know,
Speaker 4: as I said, I've been there, I've dropped the pass.
Speaker 4: Luckily my teammate you know, picked it off the very
Speaker 4: next play, so I didn't have to bear that because
Speaker 4: I was I was, I was eating up about how
Speaker 4: do I not make that play? But you know, there's
Speaker 4: so many things that gone on there, so I just
Speaker 4: understand it, and it sucks. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: you look at the game, it's like, damn, do we
Speaker 4: have to go down to the last play to the
Speaker 4: game had to be decided by this, right and and
Speaker 4: so there's a lot of other things right and again
Speaker 4: we talked about pre snap, you know, judgment there. What
Speaker 4: was Josh Allen looking at as far as numbers. You
Speaker 4: bring a guy in motion for what reason? All right,
Speaker 4: he comes in motion, nobody follows them. You know they're
Speaker 4: in zone or they're blitzing. As soon as you hike
Speaker 4: the ball, you see they're blitzing. You gotta go to
Speaker 4: your number one blitz the turn. After that, he should
Speaker 4: have went back to Shakiir, which is what that play
Speaker 4: design is supposed to do with that most short motion
Speaker 4: and going back, and so there's just a lot of things,
Speaker 4: you know, and not letting the game against Patrick maccomes
Speaker 4: knowing mestatistics of seventeen to o not come down to
Speaker 4: the final whistle, you know, and that sucks. And so
Speaker 4: it's a team game. I just don't want it to
Speaker 4: ever come down to a single play. But I've been
Speaker 4: where Dalton's at. He's gonna hang his head and he's
Speaker 4: only gonna come back better.
Speaker 1: So news comes down that Taylor Rap is injured, and
Speaker 1: so our guy Cole gets the start. Cold Bischop gets
Speaker 1: his first star with the Bills, and you know, he's
Speaker 1: saved the touchdown early on with that tackle on Kareem Hunt.
Speaker 1: He had a couple of rough moments at the end
Speaker 1: where he got trucked pretty good. I thought he had
Speaker 1: the pick overall, I thought he I thought he had
Speaker 1: a pretty solid game. Your thoughts on Cold Bishop the
Speaker 1: first start of his career in a playoff game against
Speaker 1: Kansas City bro I.
Speaker 4: Couldn't imagine me my rookie year and having to do
Speaker 4: what he had to do.
Speaker 3: I thought he did great.
Speaker 4: You know, of course, there's always room for improvement. But one,
Speaker 4: Cole's a Cole's a student of the game. This dude
Speaker 4: studies film better than anybody. When I was interviewing a
Speaker 4: lot of the older guys when Cole was a freshman,
Speaker 4: that's all they would talk about. And Cole wasn't great
Speaker 4: his freshman year, right that's when we played Ohio State.
Speaker 4: He wasn't great in that game. But years after that
Speaker 4: he got better. And that's what I'm expecting from Cole
Speaker 4: is He's just going to get better and better. I
Speaker 4: think he loves the game. He's an insane talent. He's
Speaker 4: a guy that's going to put on weight, put on strength.
Speaker 4: Understand he's going to be a starter for Buffalo going forward.
Speaker 4: I know they like him over there. He's just a
Speaker 4: guy that shuts up and just gets gets the work
Speaker 4: done once he understands the game a little bit more
Speaker 4: and understands how people play him because the NFL game
Speaker 4: and college game are very different, you know, as far
Speaker 4: as offensive play designs. So if he can understand those
Speaker 4: differences year two and three, he's going to be outstanding man.
Speaker 4: So one, this is valuable experience and the key moments
Speaker 4: in the tight game he played starting safety the entire game.
Speaker 4: That right there, that experience I wish I could have had,
Speaker 4: because that's something that you can't ever get back and
Speaker 4: it's only going.
Speaker 3: To propel you forward.
Speaker 4: So Cole Bishop did great man, and I just think
Speaker 4: that that was prime game time experience for him that
Speaker 4: he's going to be an awesome guy at the future
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 1: All Right, moving over to Eagles commanders, and we'll end
Speaker 1: with some mutes. Let me start here. You know, as
Speaker 1: a Jets fan, I always cheer for teams that have
Speaker 1: been down for a while, and the Dan Snyder years
Speaker 1: were certainly dark for Washington football fans. Your takeaway from
Speaker 1: year one with Jayden Daniels under center for Washington and
Speaker 1: what you think that franchise is in for for the
Speaker 1: next decade or so?
Speaker 3: Oh man, they're setting up.
Speaker 4: They need to buy all of the Jaden Daniels kool
Speaker 4: aid they can, right, like.
Speaker 3: This is this is the guy, man. And when you
Speaker 3: look at your pre.
Speaker 4: Draft and analysis, you got to look at what am
Speaker 4: I looking at? Why what's so different between Jaden Daniels
Speaker 4: and Caleb Williams, Right? Is it the offensive coordinator. Can
Speaker 4: you really say it's the system.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I think Jaden Daniels is just a great talent though
Speaker 4: his ability to throw a really good ball extend the
Speaker 4: play but understand what it is, and his humble approach
Speaker 4: to the game. I think that you know, he won
Speaker 4: respects his opponent, so he takes them seriously. But he's
Speaker 4: also got a swagger that he's ultra confident that he's
Speaker 4: able to get things done. So the NFL better watch out,
Speaker 4: not just the NFC or NFC, he's the NFL better
Speaker 4: watch out for this guy, because one, having a loss
Speaker 4: in the NFC Championship in his rookie year is only
Speaker 4: gonna make him hungrier. Hopefully he can get a stable
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator or offense that you know will be with him,
Speaker 4: you know, you know, for a good amount of years
Speaker 4: to where he can ultimately become you know, Josh Allen
Speaker 4: or Patrick Mahomes and control the offense. But I think
Speaker 4: this guy is the he's the future. You know, this
Speaker 4: league human ces Stroud. We're gonna see them both in
Speaker 4: the playoffs, you know, and I can't wait to see that.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be awesome matchup. But you know, Jayden Daniels
Speaker 4: is he's awesome.
Speaker 3: He got that.
Speaker 4: He got that team together, and that was the missing link.
Speaker 4: I saw it last year. I was like, they got
Speaker 4: a team, they just need a quarterback. You get Jade
Speaker 4: and Daniels in there with with proper teaching, with a
Speaker 4: good coach, and Ron Rivera out of there, and dan
Speaker 4: Quinn in there. Who's the players guy? Like like when
Speaker 4: I'm forgetting with the receiver that fumbled or early in the.
Speaker 3: Game, how dan Quinn?
Speaker 4: How dan Quinn goes up to the guys after they
Speaker 4: make mistakes, It's like, look, we're still need you, Like,
Speaker 4: game ain't over. It was a mistake, We're good, but
Speaker 4: keep your head up, keep in it. And then after
Speaker 4: that that player played great, right, And that's something Ron
Speaker 4: Rivera would never do.
Speaker 3: Ron Rivera didn't have.
Speaker 4: That type of rapport with players and and and so
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's all about the right situation, the
Speaker 4: right fit. And I think Jaden Daniels going into that
Speaker 4: with Cliff Kingsbury and bj over there at Washington was
Speaker 4: just just the perfect perfect time.
Speaker 1: Have you and for our listeners who don't know Brian Johnson,
Speaker 1: former youth quarterback, you legend is the assistant head coach
Speaker 1: and passing game coordinator in Washington.
Speaker 2: Have you talked to BJ about Jayden?
Speaker 1: I'd be really curious about, you know, for a guy
Speaker 1: that has that type of football documen, his take on
Speaker 1: this quarterback that he's working with.
Speaker 3: Now, I haven't. I actually haven't.
Speaker 4: In the times that I've talked to BJ, I haven't
Speaker 4: talked about Jayden at all.
Speaker 3: I just know that Jaden is BJ type of player, right.
Speaker 4: Jaden is like BJ when BJ was was coming out
Speaker 4: of high school and what everybody was talking about BJ
Speaker 4: here at Utah. That's Jade and Daniels, right, and jad
Speaker 4: and Daniels to even have an opportunity he was supposed
Speaker 4: to come to Utah, right, There's just so much semblance
Speaker 4: in there with him, and and you know, when you
Speaker 4: listening to interviews with Jaden, you just understand he's got
Speaker 4: his head on the shoulders and he he listens, right,
Speaker 4: He respects, you know, people and let them they know
Speaker 4: what they're doing. And I think that if you give
Speaker 4: guys like Cliff Kingsbury and BJ an opportunity to teach
Speaker 4: you to to really invest in you, you're only going
Speaker 4: to have success. So I think that you know Jaden's
Speaker 4: humbleness going into it. I don't even need to talk
Speaker 4: to BJ. I know exactly what he's gonna say. It
Speaker 4: is like that kid's the future. He's great, and so hopefully,
Speaker 4: you know, this offseason he just gets better and better
Speaker 4: understands exactly what's out. You know that that rookie year
Speaker 4: is really hard, right, you know, from you know, finishing college,
Speaker 4: getting the Heisman, doing Senior Bowl, combine, Pro days, all
Speaker 4: these interviews, going to the draft, going to mini camps.
Speaker 4: It's that process is crazy. So going into the next year,
Speaker 4: you don't have to do none of that, right you don't.
Speaker 4: I mean you go up to OTA's mini camps. That's
Speaker 4: all you have to do during the off season instead
Speaker 4: of all that other stuff. So hopefully year two for
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels will be even better because he's getting rest
Speaker 4: right and so just an amazing future ahead of that.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 4: I haven't talked to BJ yet, but hopefully I can
Speaker 4: talk to BJ here the next couple of months about
Speaker 4: his first year.
Speaker 3: We watched him all.
Speaker 1: Right, before we get over to some Utah football news
Speaker 1: that just broke, give me your early take. We got
Speaker 1: two weeks, So of course we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: it every day. Kansas City one point five point favorite,
Speaker 1: that's the opening line.
Speaker 2: What do you think happens in the Super Bowl? Slide?
Speaker 4: And looking at it, right, I've always said that I'm
Speaker 4: a guy of matchups. I think Philadelphia's offense, man, it's
Speaker 4: just amazing.
Speaker 3: But right, what Steve Spagnola does in the Kansas.
Speaker 4: City defense, I think it's his game planning ability that
Speaker 4: just sets him apart. Right, and then you got McDuffie
Speaker 4: at the cornerback position at a lineup over you know,
Speaker 4: AJ Brown or Davonte Smith and and essentially I think
Speaker 4: that's that's an eliminating factor, you know, but you know
Speaker 4: that you do have all of the other weapons and
Speaker 4: Goddard and and Devonte Smith, and so you can do that.
Speaker 4: And then of course Jaylen Hurts his ability to do
Speaker 4: things with his legs. And you know, we saw what
Speaker 4: Jaden Jalen Hurts did in the Super Bowl a couple
Speaker 4: of years ago. He put on the m v P
Speaker 4: performance in a losing effort, and so if he can
Speaker 4: do that here in this game, you know, I think
Speaker 4: they might have an advantage here. But you know, for me.
Speaker 4: It's the defenses, right, and I think that Philadelphia's secondary
Speaker 4: is too young to keep up with Kansas City's uh
Speaker 4: uh experienced offense.
Speaker 3: Right. You got one of the best to ever do
Speaker 3: it in Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4: Who's only seven years in and considered the best to
Speaker 4: ever do it.
Speaker 3: It's insane.
Speaker 4: So he's young, considered the best he's ever do it,
Speaker 4: and he's got weapons across the board, from from Hopkins
Speaker 4: to you know, Juju Smith Schuster, who's guys got rapport
Speaker 4: with him, to you know, the the rookie out of Texas,
Speaker 4: Travis Kelce, Noah Gray at tight end, the multiple running
Speaker 4: backs in Kareem Hunt and and Isaiah Pacheco. Like, uh,
Speaker 4: just Patrick Mahomes's ability to matter who's around him to
Speaker 4: do things. I think that secondary and what we talked
Speaker 4: about in the last evement about pre snap readability. I
Speaker 4: gotta give the edge to Kansas City here, and so
Speaker 4: I favor that line. It's going to be a great game.
Speaker 4: Matchups are there as far as personnel goes, but yeah, man,
Speaker 4: I gotta give them me. I gotta give the Edgekinas City.
Speaker 1: All right, Little Utah football news, it's not good news
Speaker 1: on a Monday, but they're gonna lose another cornerback, Keenan Johnson,
Speaker 1: who had season ending knee surgery. Excuse me, he had
Speaker 1: a season ending knee injury, so I don't know if
Speaker 1: he was going to be ready to go anyway. But nonetheless,
Speaker 1: it hurts when you look at you know, just kind
Speaker 1: of the too deep and where people align. My guess
Speaker 1: is he would have started. He was a Georgia Tech
Speaker 1: transfer to Utah and then about an hour and a
Speaker 1: half agoing now so that he's leaving the program.
Speaker 2: So what what's your reaction to this?
Speaker 3: I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker 4: I mean, you Todd did right by you, but you
Speaker 4: know you I feel like you want to go somewhere else.
Speaker 4: That's that's what's crazy, is yeah. I mean, same thing
Speaker 4: with this Anthony Woods guy, right the running back. We
Speaker 4: got him from Idaho, we got him while he was injured,
Speaker 4: we rehabbed him, and now he got a free year
Speaker 4: and he entered the portal. So I'm just like it
Speaker 4: sucks because what's gonna happen here is you're gonna get
Speaker 4: a doggy dog world coming up.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: You're gonna give these universities the ability to treat you
Speaker 4: like employees.
Speaker 3: And when you don't do right, you're out right.
Speaker 4: There's no you owe me, I owe you, there's no
Speaker 4: loyalty with all this stuff. It's like, look, this is
Speaker 4: what the game is. Let's do it right. You know,
Speaker 4: these guys make all kinds of money, money that you know,
Speaker 4: normal people spend four or five years can make these
Speaker 4: guys make in six months and they don't even play,
Speaker 4: and so like it's it's crazy. I know he's got
Speaker 4: injured at the beginning of the season, but you know
Speaker 4: if you felt in his heart that you know, I
Speaker 4: had to get out and make that happen. Or you know,
Speaker 4: of course, everybody always talks about all of this. You know,
Speaker 4: what do you call it when somebody is trying to
Speaker 4: steal you from another program?
Speaker 3: Everybody?
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody's talking about poaching and all this other stuff.
Speaker 4: And so it's real. That stuff is real. You jump
Speaker 4: into portal. So I mean, for me, I always wait
Speaker 4: and see, like how fast does he commit to another university?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Like how fast did you know ton of Boss I
Speaker 4: commit to b YU, Right? How fast did some of
Speaker 4: these other guys commit to some of these other places?
Speaker 3: And I'm just like Ken and Johnson.
Speaker 4: Like it was a rough year, you know, last year,
Speaker 4: but you know it was your first year in the program.
Speaker 4: So there's not a lot of guys who have invested
Speaker 4: in the program over the years, and so best of
Speaker 4: luck to him wherever he goes. But you know, I
Speaker 4: think the mantra with Utah this next year would be like,
Speaker 4: if you don't want to be here to it's fine,
Speaker 4: We're gonna win with the guys that are here. And
Speaker 4: so we didn't get to see a lot out of Kennon,
Speaker 4: so it's hard to say like we're gonna miss you.
Speaker 3: But you know, other than.
Speaker 4: The coaches saying Kennon was great, you know Kennon, the
Speaker 4: coaches also said that a lot of other positions were
Speaker 4: great they didn't pan out last year as well. So
Speaker 4: but on tape, we didn't get to see much from
Speaker 4: this guy. And I you know, wish him success, but
Speaker 4: you don't want to be here, don't don't be here,
Speaker 4: as simple as that.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, Slyve, Thanks for the time, man, have a
Speaker 1: great weekend. We'll chat soon, all right, brother, we'll talk
Speaker 1: to you soon. I had the great Stevenson Sylvester