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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in our number two OTV one
O four five ESPN Ben Rouge. We are here boots
on the ground the twenty twenty five SEC Media Days
in Atlanta, Georgia gonna have coaches coming up on the podium.
Up today it is Alabama and Mississippi State first, and
then in the afternoon session it is the Florida Gators,
Matt's favorite team, and the Oklahoma Sooner. So we've got
that coming up. Calling me out for how you know
what's talking about you? Not moscona A tricky trick, sir?
Would you interview a Florida Gator player?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I just sit there and I don't know, bark
at him or something.
Speaker 4: I know, you Georgia bulldog mind barking at people. I
don't know what are we doing here? Tiger growl at him?
Speaker 3: There you go, Yeah, dude, whatever, let's do it. Uh.
Speaker 4: So get billiam h scare money to do'll mic money
Billy Knightier. I did feel like when Blake Shapin was
telling his favorite evangel moment and he was talking about
lee By Lewis, a quarterback, and he's like, yeah, you
remember him or not? I went to say I was
talking to you. I was like, yeah, he's from U
L L and he said U L and I added
the extra L.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh man, I'm gonna catch some heat
for that. Huh. I don't understand that. Why do you
catch heat for it? Some people are very particular about it.
I get it, but like that's just the way, you know,
that's what I So what I did for changing your initials,
I don't know.
Speaker 2: So you're a U L.
Speaker 5: I mean I think that's what I go to like automatically.
Then I kind of self correct myself. But like if
I'm just talking fast, which I do do a lot,
and just you catch me on the.
Speaker 4: Spur Bro Bible slash bread Bro Bible slash bread coming up.
As we mentioned, so it is Alabama Missippi State, and
of course you've already heard from Mississippi State's quarterback.
Speaker 3: And head coach Kaylen de Boor.
Speaker 4: Look, he's walking around right now, and he's got like
a pretty decent sized groove following him. I mean, nowhere
obviously near what Coach Saban used to have, like that
you told me about, like arch Manning and the crowd that
he used to have, like that used to be I
can imagine that used to be Coach Saban. But Kaitlyn Boor,
it's an interesting deal because it didn't fall off a cliff.
Last year they were nine and three, but at Alabama
they were nine and three, and so a lot of
people are like, all right, coach, all right, coach, as
you're one years back to the title.
Speaker 5: Okay, but I went nine to three first year, like
brand new program.
Speaker 3: Think you we talked about you.
Speaker 5: Just brought it up at like Archeza's unfair expectations set
on him. Of course, Kaylen de bor has the same
type of unfair expectations on him. You follow a legend
like that, I mean, you know what you're getting yourself
into when you take the job on the heels of
Nick Saban retiring. But there's nothing in Kaylen de Boor's
history that says he's not gonna get it turned around
and be competitive and try to at least be dangerous
and in the mix every single year. Now, I don't
think we'll ever see a run that that like Nick
Saban had. I just don't think that is possible in
this new NIL world. I think it's created that has
created so much parody in the in the sport of
college football. And you know, when when it first started,
everybody's like, oh man, this is gonna make It's gonna
make such a top heavy like only the big boys
can afford to go pay these players.
Speaker 3: It's going to be top heavy.
Speaker 5: We're gonna have, you know, four or five dominant players
every year. No one's gonna be able to Well, it
kind of did the opposite thing that I don't know
if anybody foresaw. It created so much parody because guys
are now leaving to go to smaller schools because either
they can afford to do it or they or they're
looking at it as like a stepping stone to get
back to another big like. So it's created so much parody.
But so I don't think you'll ever see the run
again that Nick Saban and maybe we will, maybe something
surprise us, uh.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's nothing like Callender boor is a really good
head football coach.
Speaker 3: Okay, so but yeah, his record, but it's.
Speaker 5: Crazy to say, but like how many nine and three
seasons can he have?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Well, I say, I say it's crazy, but we're crazy
in the SEC. Sure and start Alabama like LSU and
Alabama and Auburn and Florida. I mean I could just
like the Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, Uh, Texas, A and m
like crazy like it, like it's it's a look, that's
a turm endearment. We're passionate, and like you expect greatness.
Now some of these teams expected even though they haven't
had it, but certainly the ones that have had it,
they do expect it. And so like you're right, like
it does when you say nine and three, you're like, wait,
NOI like that's but that's how it is.
Speaker 5: And that's the one fan base Like, yes, you can
because of the success they have. You can accomplish all
your goals as a program, like inside the locker room,
inside the walls of what like what you're trying to build,
how you're how you like the transition of a new
coach and a new program, like you can accomplish all
those goals, but not accomplish the goals of the fans
and the expectations of the fans. So you know, certainly
from a fan standpoint, you go nine to thirty two,
many the noise gets pretty loud. Whether that's fair or unfair,
that's position. That's a position Kailen about the board chose
to go into.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not dumb, like he knew he knew that expectation.
Speaker 4: Right, and it was always going to take somebody I think,
like a Kaelin to Boor.
Speaker 3: He was coming off a national championship appearance.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't don't quote me on this, but
he was something like one ten and twelve as a.
Speaker 3: Head coach on all levels. Good, pretty good.
Speaker 4: That dog will hunt that dog, right, So I like
the fact that he left, Like, that's a guy.
Speaker 3: Let's be honest.
Speaker 4: If you want to stay at Washington for ten years
and make the most money on the West coast, maybe
outside of Oregon, he could have done that. He did
challenge himself to go down to Alabama. It was nine
and three. There was you know, look the Oklahoma loss,
the Vanderbilt loss, those are the ones I think the
Alabama fans are probably most except upset by because of
like one, Oklahoma was struggling, they beat him, and then
you know, you can't lose the Vanderbilt in Alabama, man Man,
Vanderbilt ended up, you know, having a good football team.
I wonder what it's like though, if he does go
nine and three this year in Tuscaloosa, if he does
another nine and three and he's got some losses that
aren't Georgia or Texas, you know, you know, are those
type of teams.
Speaker 5: Lsu Yeah, it's going to depend on how the losses
look and who they're too. I mean, certainly two of
their losses last year Vanderbilt and Oklahoma, where it was
not great, it wasn't wasn't a good look for you know,
the big old Crimson tide going in there, and those
are just not losses that a fan base is is suspects.
If you go nine to three and the optics of
the losses are a lot better, it's certainly a whole
different conversation. So you know, we'll see the expectations they have.
I mean, I can only imagine the weight that he's
got to carry around. But again, look he's getting paid
well to do it. He knew what he was doing,
and kudos to him for challenging himself on that. But
like you said, I mean, the record prior to getting
to Alabama is is unmatched out there from a just
a wins and lost record and the programs as he's
he's turned around and made super relevant.
Speaker 4: He is now one thirteen and sixteen. It is hey
coaching right career. I guess you know. They did go
nine and four, they did lose a bowl game to Michigan.
But one of the themes of this media day, there's
not and because we're talking to Alabama and brings it
to mind and we had Georgia yesterday, it's not the
feeling like I've had.
Speaker 3: This is media day I think seven that I've been to.
Speaker 4: And typically when you get here, it's like, okay, you've
got top tier. Sometimes it can be three teams. A
lot of times it's two teams top tier, middle tier,
and then everybody else it's just like it feels like
middle tier, right, and then like three teams at the bottom.
I could like, it doesn't right the same you can't
like you like, okay, we have well, let's see one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight desk right here on the front row of media Day,
I bet if you said, let's go down the line,
let's ask these eight tables SEC champion this year, I bet.
Speaker 3: We get five different answers. I truly believe that. Yeah,
I'm with you on that, right yep.
Speaker 4: I mean because look, Jock's down there would say Alabama,
I bet, and the Atlanta station the game next to us,
they'd say Georgia.
Speaker 3: We would say LASHU.
Speaker 4: You know, so to my point, if there's there's there's five,
I bet the table next to us we'll say tex.
Speaker 3: With very real expectations that you.
Speaker 5: Know, I don't think every team out there talks about
we brought this up with the Jeff Levy interview, like
having real, realistic expectations. I don't know if every single
year there's five or six teams that realistically think that
they can actually compete and win an SEC championship. So,
but that is real this year, and that's why we're
so hopeful for LSU, and because I think they got
the best, the best chance at it with the leadership
they have, what they're returning the really a quarterback that
has proved it. There's a lot of question marks at quarterback.
I know these question marks in the SEC at quarterback
might pan out. All of them pan out to be great,
but you don't know that there's question marks. I'll take
the proven commodity in the NFL readiness that is garrett Nessmm.
Where you at right now? Oh, let me tell you
this little story, little tidbit. Been a while since I've
seen Kirby Smart and we talked about he was an
assistant safety's coach when we were at when we were
at LSU in two thousand.
Speaker 4: And three and four, I believe, Yeah, I know four
for sure or for sure.
Speaker 5: I can't remember if he was there for three. But anyway,
it's been a long time since I've seen it. I think,
of course, I think highly of him, one of the
one of the best coaches in college football, and me,
what a job he's done. Uh So I was really
looking forward to just like seeing him again, shaking his hand,
bit man, you know, tell him how you know, proud
of you and and all that stuff. Got to see
him yesterday. I met him right behind the urinals in
the bathroom. No you didn't, did I did. I went
to the bat I wouldn't try it to like. I
didn't follow him in the bout him. I had to pee.
You already brought up my old man bladder uber hydrated.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: But I go and he is, you know, just getting done,
you know, washing the old head. And I'm just walking
in and I'm like, Kirby, what's up, dude? And he's like, oh, man,
what's up, dude?
Speaker 2: How are you doing?
Speaker 3: And I was like, man, you didn't have to tell
your name.
Speaker 5: No, no, no. And then I was like, I was like, man,
this is awkward. I did not want to see you
at the urinals. But yeah, here we are, and uh,
let's just go with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And you know, it's not the best smelling bathroom ever.
It's a lot of people that kind of go in
and out.
Speaker 3: But you know, so that was right out here. Yeah,
that was right there. Yeah so you said hello to
him though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it was it was one of those you know,
we both felt comfortable with the bathroom handshake because.
Speaker 3: He I was just walking in.
Speaker 5: He had just washed his hands and dried him off,
so we both felt comfortable with the bathroom. Bathroom handshakes
are always a weird like proposition. You don't really know
what what like process they're at. It was clear and
definitive little handshake, you know, chatted it up for about
forty five seconds to a minute, which you can't really
do much longer than that in a bath. Nd yeah,
then he gets awkward. Then it gets awkward. People are
like like, excuse me, I got to get to.
Speaker 4: The sak just like, hey, wait, like me and Kirby
a smart to hear pal go find another.
Speaker 5: You know, a couple of port a couple of commode
flushes in the background. It's just, you know, it's not
the best situation, not where it drew it up, all right,
but uh, you know, good to connect with the old
ball coach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, what did he say when you told him
you were in sports media? Because he called me He's like.
Speaker 3: Man, why would you why'd you do that? You big dummy?
Speaker 5: I told him i'd been and he's like, eh, I see,
because he he brought up Lantasy.
Speaker 3: Hester a bunch and blah blah blah. He's like, man,
I'm just being proud of blah blah blah all this stuff.
You know, we're just catching up. So he's like, I
was like, yeah, so I'm working with Hester now.
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, all right, wells huh.
Speaker 3: See you later, very memorable. I'm sure he'll remember it
for it.
Speaker 4: It is so like it is wild for us, Like
y'all have to understand, like when Matt says, like he was,
you know, the assistant DB's coach, and I told the
story yesterday, like I'm in that room, and like Nick
Saban's actually running the tape coaching the DB's and then
Kirby's sitting behind him kind of taking notes, and like
so for us, and not that we didn't think he
was a great coach, Like you could tell he was
going to be a great coach. He was a great coach,
but like for us to see him from where we
saw him in two thousand and four at LSU just
being like an assistant dB coach too. I don't think
we can argue this right now. The current best coach
in college football, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Would say so. I mean, he's hurt and he's earn
those stripes.
Speaker 5: There are some people that want to contend for that
honor and have the record to probably back it up.
But he's earned the stripes.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: I mean, when when you think of that, he Kirby
Smart is the probably the rated best coach in college football.
Speaker 4: It's gotta be cool for like Kirby two to do
it at a place where he was you know, he's
a good player, like he was like a star of
his teams, like when he was when he was there.
Like when you go back and you go back home,
like whatever home is, it does bring expectations. It does
bring like the fear of failure, maybe a little bit
more because you don't want to mess up home. But
also it makes you so prideful in a way that
you don't want to let home down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can be like, well, why wouldn't you
work the same?
Speaker 4: In your mind, you are working the same sometimes, I
all like, it's just like when I talk about when
you're playing Directional School you compared to when you're playing
Georgia or Florida or whoever. In your mind, you're preparing
for little State you as much as you are Big
State you. Right, you're doing the same things each and
every day, but you're not like there's a little bit
more you're doing each and every day. But you're you
think you are. You know what I'm saying, You're going
through the most and.
Speaker 3: It's subconscious you're trying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're saying the things right and that's what But
a good coach can kind of motivate you a little
bit more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you kind of push it. Yeah. So like for Kirby,
like if he was.
Speaker 4: At Auburn and he'd be doing he'd be doing all
the things right, But when he's in Georgia, he's just
gonna do a little bit more of the things, like
even if he doesn't know it, just because of where
it is, and you know what it means to him.
Speaker 5: And you talk about it too, like when you're you're
getting recruited, staying in states, playing for your your state school,
playing at LSU, like you go there, have success, man,
you're a made man like that, Like it means so
much more when somebody in state goes there, does things
the right way and has success. The same with him,
he goes back home to Georgia, all the success, all
the success in the world, Like he's got the longest
leash you could ever have, like he is. Like you
go there and don't have success, it's one thing, but
if you do have success, I mean it, it just
means that much more to your fan.
Speaker 4: Base, all right, As I said, it is Alabama, Florida,
Mississippi State, Oklahoma, We've already caught up with a couple
of a coach and a player from Mississippi State. We've
talked a little Alabama. I do want to hit the
other teams, Florida, Oklahoma. We'll start that process when we
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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back.
Speaker 4: Heah OTB one oh four five ESPN, Baton rouge. Our
guy Chris Marler down there just louisianasports dot net. He
has had his hand up in his up for three days.
Three days.
Speaker 3: He oh, Actually mar didn't have a redneck. Actually that's
just me.
Speaker 5: Well he's got the two fingers up like hey bo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I say say now, say now, and see if
Marlin get his question in there.
Speaker 5: But Ma's been qushing it with the questions. I was
in there the other day when Shane Biemer was talking
and uh, there was probably four or five questions before
he got his uh. And then he and you know,
just a straight response. He asked his questions. Yeah and boom,
he got a good question. He got a hey, good question,
thank you. So I texted the group, I say, put
him on the scoreboard. He's on, Marla is on it.
Good for him. So I hadn't gotten my question in
down there.
Speaker 3: I don't really forgot every day though.
Speaker 5: Hadn't You've gone every day, not to every single press conference,
but I've gone to multiple just to kind of see
what it's all about.
Speaker 3: Anybody kind of stand out to you.
Speaker 4: As far as as a coaches, You're like, okay, yeah,
I get it. I get why the team follows that guy.
Speaker 3: I like Shane Beemer. He was a dude.
Speaker 5: And I am kind of nervous this year about South
Carolina because of Leonora's Sellers. Like we were we were
in a group last night, I think it was that.
Was it at dinner or was it we were having
some do sectis. I can't remember, but we were talking about, like,
of all the players that have walked through here, there's
one guy that just looks a little different than everybody.
Lona Sellers looks like that dude. Yeah, like walk around
not from like a confidence, just like a just a
physical just just he walks, he carries a presence with
him because he is a unit.
Speaker 3: So he's one of these.
Speaker 5: Guys that I fear could take that next type greatness
step in his quarterback play. I'm not gonna say I
hope not, but like because I think right, but she
does play him. So he's one of those guys that
I certainly have my eyeball on, and I know everybody
else does too. I mean, he's on the list, right,
He's on that preseason list for the Heisman.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. But like because of the potential.
Speaker 5: But I think just hearing hearing Shane Beamer talk about
him here and kind of the responses and just seeing
him walk around, it's like, man, this dude has the potential, yeah,
and the mindset to uh be absolutely dangerous this season.
Speaker 4: So when I look at South Carolina, I start talking
about Lenora Sellers. If he's in the Heisman conversation in November,
South Carolinas.
Speaker 3: In the playoff conversation, yeah that's okay. If he's not,
they're not like and I don't want to like.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a great point, but I don't want
to make it like individual. Yeah, but with his case,
like he doesn't have like he doesn't have the weapons
that LSU does. He doesn't have the Alburn has better weapons.
Like I think if you're looking at just the weapons now,
they don't have the quarterback, but they've got the weapons.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, so like Texas has better.
Speaker 4: Way, we can go down the list of who has
better weapons, like you could go to a casual South
Carolina fan. Hell, I'd go down that crowd right now
and I see somebody that covers another team, like, hey,
give me South Carolina's top two receivers.
Speaker 3: Uh, they struggle.
Speaker 5: It's like you're asking me about any team. There are
a bunch of mees down there when it comes to
South you said it not me.
Speaker 3: Hey, we're learning.
Speaker 4: But but my point is like it's little Norse sellers.
Like Rocket Sanders was great last year. He's not like
Rocket Sanders isn't there anymore? Like it's gonna be you know,
Bennett in Harbor and those guys that have been okay,
and they've been like nice pieces like they now they
have to be the main piece.
Speaker 3: They gotta be up in the mantle. Yep. And I
just for the Norse centers. He did it last year,
but he's.
Speaker 5: Gonna do it again, and he's gonna have to make
people around them elevate their play. Which, look, I think
that it could happen. I think that that program has
the right mindset. I think the program has great leadership.
Did you just get way louder on this microphone?
Speaker 3: Yes? I don't know what happened on her? A little
white noise in the background. Yeah, I don't know how
we get rid of that.
Speaker 4: We'll try to there we go, all right, I don't
know what got hit there, rivers do I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I was looking at the chat when they were asking
is this Zen or Icebreakers?
Speaker 3: And Alandra knows her her host pretty well.
Speaker 4: She's like, it was Jake. It's Icebreakers, That's what it is.
It's Icebreakers. It's not as you.
Speaker 3: Didn't want to be. Oh, hey, let's turn Cole kublick
up here, Hey, Bud.
Speaker 2: There's an accusation floating around. Yeah, in a days that
I'm a bully, Yeah, a little bit. Uh.
Speaker 4: Flynn was just saying like he's like, man, you know,
I think Jock's actually gets a lot of the guys
because Cole's like, hey, bud sip, yeah.
Speaker 3: Hey, take a seat.
Speaker 2: Respect to that is that is that bully or is
that relationship? That is that maneuvering.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit of the word bully never came.
Bully didn't come. Yea did not come.
Speaker 2: He riz putting that word in your mouth. That's not
that's not good. I was like, uh, I think that's
what I like. Hey, uh my guy, sit down. Man,
you're gonna have to learn. You just you just act
like you know the guys and you've been here before.
You say excuse me, but next, and then the players
don't know what to do. That's the thing. They've never
done this. I have of these guys have never been
here before. So they'll just look at you and say, oh,
this guy looks like he knows what he's doing. I
better sit down. I'm gona get in trouble.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and then the handlers walking around like, hey,
where's my gay.
Speaker 2: Guys? Hey guys, hey guys. Yeah, okay, we got it.
We're winding it. We asked him one question.
Speaker 3: Okay, give me a second.
Speaker 4: I know there's some people that do the wind up
that are a little scarier than others, like Catherine, who
is Greg Sankees, and.
Speaker 2: You don't ignore that wind up you Okay? I got
cut him off and said we're done, Catherine.
Speaker 4: You do to like Catherine's looking at me through those
glasses and we got here, out of here, you're out,
you'll alert, you'll see all right, fair to see that.
Speaker 3: How's the week going, Bud? It's good.
Speaker 2: It's draining. I don't know why this one's making me
more tired than the others.
Speaker 3: But we were talking about that walking all that walking together.
I was like, I don't know what's going on, but this.
Speaker 5: Year is just you're done. Stop man, you're here all
day recorded recording. I mean, you're a heart. I don't
see anybody harder work it.
Speaker 3: Greg.
Speaker 2: Greg's like, what do you think about that swing off
in the All Star Game last night? I said, I
was asleep out of the idea was talking about.
Speaker 3: I missed it.
Speaker 2: I didn't see it.
Speaker 3: And you know who we haven't seen here grinding and
getting recordings. Greg his partners busy on TV there. That's right,
very important.
Speaker 5: Tell me a couple of guys that have just impressed
you as a human being, as a teammate, and just
like interview process, couple, give me a couple of guys
that stood out to.
Speaker 2: You here this year, Arts Manning number one, and I
think that we spent a lot of time talking about
the circus that's with him and everything going on around him.
We I don't think we've given him enough credit for
how he's managed this. His parents deserve a ton of credit.
He has a lot of advantages with his grandfather, his
uncle's obviously, but we just don't give him enough credit
because think about how easy this would be to go
to his head, and how easy this would be for
him to just be on cloud nine and be better
than everybody else, and the stories about carrying other people's
pads at practice and then just being a good teammate.
And he was having fun yesterday too. I talked to
him for a few minutes downstairs and he was enjoying this,
and I thought that was cool to see, because I
do think there's a part of him that we had
a TV meeting with him last year and you could
tell he was annoyed by it. Like walking in, you
could tell he was like, I don't want to do this.
This is dumb. Why am I doing this? I'm not
their real starter. I'm filling in for Quinn who's heart.
You could tell that was his mindset, which is great.
But once we got him going, he was fun, he
was energetic, he was cool. So I'm really I was
really impressed with him. I'm trying to think the other
player a lot. I thought Texas all three. I think
all all three in Texas guy Michael Taff with the tie,
what he's doing for the folks in Texas that that's incredible.
Speaker 3: Just to have that thought.
Speaker 2: And to want to make that statement in media days
was unbelievable. That's the kind of human being he he
is and that nothing else needs to be said about him.
That makes me want to watch him play football. Yeah,
that makes me want to. Like when I watch Texas play,
I will hope that that Taff gets an interception. Like
that's that's what That's what he is to me now,
Like he won me over, no doubt.
Speaker 3: I am the same way. LSU guys.
Speaker 4: Since we're here in bad Ruge, which you think about
the LSU guys.
Speaker 2: Love, I love talking to us. He said that mobility
and movement has been a priority for him. Yeah, which
I'll be honest, I've been hard on him, right, I'm like, dude,
you can move in the pocket, Like, I know your
tackles are really good, but it's okay to just go
a little bit left and then throw the ball away.
Or when you go way left and there's not a
defender within thirty yards, just walk for five yards. You
wouldn't even have to sprint, just walk for five And
then he said that's been an emphasis for his game.
And then there have been discussions about actually hitting the
ball off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about that. Yeah, we talked about.
Speaker 2: That potentially deciding to do that, and yeah.
Speaker 3: That's got it.
Speaker 4: That has that has to happen if LSU wants to
get to where they want to go.
Speaker 5: And there's a lot of noise from from the LSU
fan base like they'd watch a game they're just just
pull it one time and run it on the zone raid.
And my argument to that's, like I get what you're saying,
because I see the same thing.
Speaker 3: Y'all. If he pulled it, he'd make five six yards
whatever it is.
Speaker 5: But it's scared. That's fire, Like you don't run. You
don't run a zone raid. With Tom Brady back there
right like, just don't run the zone.
Speaker 2: But I'll equate it to this well, first, I would
say with him, I don't think you have to have
that kind of an offense. And with Jared Stidham and Auburn,
they didn't need that kind of offense either. But Gus
Mills almost gonna run it. He would pull one every
now and then, and just I don't want to call
it running but moving. I don't want to call what
he was doing running a little more rapidly and all
of a sudden four yards eight yards and just what
that does to the defense I think is necessary at times.
I really do believe that.
Speaker 3: How did we get a chance to get you off
air this long?
Speaker 2: We're cameing to boards at the podium, man.
Speaker 3: That's true. I mean I could have gotten you a
chair to stretch.
Speaker 2: I need to get up and move around. We our
listeners need everything. Kay, what's gonna say?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did.
Speaker 2: He was impressive today talking to him.
Speaker 3: I love so you and I so you.
Speaker 4: And I we actually covered the game together, the Sugar
Bowl where they beat Texas in the semi final, and
so we did get a chance to get to know
him and his team a little bit, and he was
incredible with us. I just don't think a lot of
fans realize how good of a coach he is. And
we were talking about his record, it's like one, thirteen
and twelve still right, It's like for me, those how
to win games, it doesn't matter what level, because he
had those those level of players himself. He was nine
and three last year, like Rome is not burning, like
they they have a chance to figure it out this year.
And the expectation is what it is, you're following Nick Saban.
We all get that, but I always love the fact
that he said I'll follow Nick Saban.
Speaker 3: Not a lot of people do.
Speaker 2: This shy away from it. He knows what it is.
He welcomed all the pressure that was going to come
with it, and I think that's his confidence that he has.
I actually think that he's excited about the team this
year as opposed to some of the player and I
think last year he had some excitement about some of
the players, but he didn't really know what kind of
a team he had. I think now he knows he
has more of a team. Would he like to have
Tyler Booker back, Absolutely? Would he like to have a
couple of guys that maybe hit the portal still there,
like a Kendrick Law, who's one of the best blocking
receivers I've ever seen. Sure would he like to have
those two tight ends back for sure, looks we talked
to him about on the show today. Yes, but I
think he understands now they're probably going to be more
capable operating their offense than they were a year ago.
He didn't say that. I believe that, and he alluded
to some things around that. So I think their offense
has a chance to be a lot better without a
quarterback that runs twenty three miles an hour, So you
know they're going to know when to get that offense
is nowhere to go and get the ball out and
if you can do that, it's going to have success.
Speaker 5: Is there anything that Kaylan de War can do at
Alabama this season short of like making a Final four
or win an se championship that the fans are gonna
be like, yep, that was a successful season for.
Speaker 2: Us, not those fans. No, yeah, no.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like it.
Speaker 2: There's very few of those fans, Matt that will sit
back and say, oh, yeah, we got to the playoffs,
that was a good year. That's just not a real
thing with them.
Speaker 3: Tried hard.
Speaker 2: That rose ball game the other I mean, that was
a failure to them, and it didn't help when the
quarterback from the previous year when they won the SEC.
But then when the national championship came back and said
last year was a failure. And that's how I view it. Yeah,
I mean Bryce Young sat down with us in media
days it was actually right over there, and he was like,
last year was a failure, and it was like, dud,
don't do to yourself. Come on, you had a hell
of a year last year. Y'all won the SEC.
Speaker 4: Like, don't say that is there some Alabama fans call
that no matter what he does. One he's not Nick
Saban and two he's not from the area. And you
know what I mean, like he's uh, you know, he's
not from the South, the East seed and grew up
in the se seed and go to you know, coaching
SEC teams like Bama.
Speaker 3: Exactly right.
Speaker 2: It's you guys know that. It's amazing how quickly it
can shift. Because there were a lot of those conversations
after the season, a lot of those conversations when the
portal window opened. But you guys are probably I know,
you guys don't follow it like we don't really follow it,
but you've seen what's been happening in that program the
last month, month and a half. Yeah, five star, five star,
five star. All of a sudden, he's right back on
part with Nick Saban.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm so glad we got him. Yeah, I can
coach guy.
Speaker 2: He can coach man. That's our guy. That's our guy.
He's like I hadn't coached Anybody's recruited some kids, you know,
but like that's how I mean literally, it can nose
dive in a minute, and it can escalate through the
roof in the next minute. It's just that's where they are.
Speaker 3: He knew, he knew what he was getting into there, right,
there's no doubt. Yeah, I mean I think he's I think.
Speaker 2: He does a very good job of blocking a lot
of that out. Yeah, he doesn't see it, he doesn't
hear it. He doesn't. I mean, he knows what the
job is, but all the peripheral bs, he he doesn't.
He doesn't let that get to him.
Speaker 4: All Right, We had a chance real quick to talk
to you about Auburn and Hugh Freeze and maybe what
they have to do, like what is because like look,
you know, media day is cool, like you get here.
It's like how many different people have told me, you
know after two.
Speaker 3: Years he's got the same record as Brian Harrison. They didn't.
Speaker 4: They tried to have a coup to get Brian Harson
out of town. Like that's I've had seventeen people on
media row ask me that question. What is like the
expectation there and like what does Hugh.
Speaker 3: Have to do to maybe quiet some of the noise?
Speaker 2: Just win? And I'm beginning to think he has to
win the opener.
Speaker 3: Because I think, yeah, that's not an easy one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not on the road really hard. They're gonna
black It's gonna be a blackout. They got billboards all
over the place. They're bringing RG three and Chip and
to Way, the games are gonna be there. They're talking
about it like they are. They're blowing this thing out.
Speaker 3: Alvin Flynn, former Bay quarterback.
Speaker 2: They're making this game massive. And Greg told me last
week at Big twelve me to Days he was there
that Dave Randall's like, we know what this is this
SEC team, we know what this can do, we know
what this is. I don't think Alburn fans have an
appreciation for how good Sorry Robertson is for how good
that team is. Now you're taking an air raid.
Speaker 3: Guy.
Speaker 2: They're gonna keep some of the stread zone stuff, so
they're gonna mix and match that. You don't know really
what you're gonna get from that offense and what it's
going to look like. That's a that's a there's a
tough There's a couple of Week one games, like everybody
knows Clemson is hard. Yeah, but I'm just telling you Tennessee, Syracuse,
you better be really careful.
Speaker 3: I talked about that bor.
Speaker 2: You bet to be really careful with that game. So
there's a couple early like Florida is gonna be fine.
They're playing the Sharks.
Speaker 3: Did you know Long Island?
Speaker 4: But did you know they had to hand up? I
knew they had baseball. New to me that they had football.
Speaker 2: They played somebody like two years ago, and I remember
seeing it as the only reason I knew and the orises.
I know they were the Sharks because I investigated when
I looked at for the schedule this year. They I
think they have to get that game because if they don't,
then not think things start to get oh man, what's
going on? And they start to get a little iffy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if he if.
Speaker 2: He wins a couple of big games and has a
positive season, he'll be fine. If they struggle, not good.
Speaker 5: And to your point about Baylor, I mean they ended
the season against LSU, so they're not certainly not going
to back down from See.
Speaker 2: Look at this graphics person didn't even know I was
coming on. That's getting that's getting it done right there
to Taylor back in un Taylor, good job having a
mind and thinking for yourself.
Speaker 3: He also said, can we get my guy in a chair?
Speaker 2: No good, I actually need to squad down like this
and stretch.
Speaker 3: The little Yeah, we just found out yesterday.
Speaker 2: Well this knee doesn't go all the way.
Speaker 3: We have No, we don't have.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 5: I thought out yesterday that you are you share our
passion with sports cards?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and well I.
Speaker 3: Was pretty fired up to hear about this.
Speaker 5: Tell us, tell us, what's what's the best card that
you that you what you're like as you look at.
Speaker 2: My girl that I own is a lou Alsinder rookie.
I haven't gotten it graded, so I'm kind of afraid
to get a great I'm afraid's gon to come back
like a two or three and I'll just be really bummed.
But I have one and then one I just showed
you guys yesterday, the signed Joe Thomas, the T, the
HS to the M and the all signed by him.
I have the patch cards of his last name because
now my I just do a line cards. I do
have a one of one super Fractor Jason Kelsey, which
is probably going to be in there, also cool. And
then I had, Oh, you guys love this one. I
need to show you the picture. This one my favorite
card that I have because the little Ell Center's cool,
but my favorite card because it's it was my team
and I've told you stories about him in college before
and how he was presented to us. I have a
Nike swous patch one of two Alan Fanica, Let's Goanica
is my guy, uh with the Steelers. And when I
was in college, we would watch LSU's offense against other
defense and Rick Trickett would say, Rick trick why can't
y'all do what Panic is doing? Right here?
Speaker 3: Look at this guy. He's just walking a boy the
whole Why can't.
Speaker 2: You do this? Cube? Blick you sorry? So hey, look
look at him seven yards down the field. And I
was like coach. God made one of those. I wasn't
I wasn't it.
Speaker 4: I wish I could do those things use Pro Football
Hall of Famer. You can't tell that pretty early.
Speaker 2: He's got he's got more gifts than I.
Speaker 4: I'm jealous. I'm jealous that he has that card. And
I don't, dude, it's sweet. Jealous, it's sweet.
Speaker 3: Call you the man. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Stanks sure, love you, brother, appreciated chair.
Speaker 3: Yes you have to go.
Speaker 2: He didn't actually call me a bully, and the ribs
just made that up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, on hundred percent, we said assertive.
Speaker 4: All right, there he is our guy, Cole cub look
good enough to join us here while uh Calen new
Boor was on the podium they were carrying that and look,
he could have sat there and totaled his thumbs and
taken a breath because he hadn't done that yet here
this week. But he was good enough to come join
us and to a Sigond squad. I understand because he
had he had the one knee up. The one was
a little bit said, I get that, especially in the morning,
so those knees get.
Speaker 3: A little tricky. Calls the man though, Yeah, and uh
we called him a bully. Yeah, that was not said.
Speaker 4: We said he's being assertive basically and like saying, hey,
uh hey, Johnny, sit down.
Speaker 3: Yea, because he's right on the corner everybody. So that's
that's where we were.
Speaker 4: He looks into he looks like he's in charge, so
offensive on the sec h yes, sir, So we that's
where we were like three years ago whenever it was here.
So we were on that corner and actually Jocks was here,
so we kind of just maybe every other time to
go switches that corner right there.
Speaker 3: You can stop them.
Speaker 4: It's okay though, fat Look we had a street Port
evangel guest on, so we're good. Next Greg Sankeye coming
up in like twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: Let's go. We'll take a break. What do you want
us to ask Greg? Nothing about football? Oh hey, that's
a great idea. Shoot us some questions.
Speaker 4: Again, know thy show know thyself right, We know thyself right.
Speaker 3: Other shows are going to get the Hey, so tell
us about the state of college.
Speaker 4: Football where we're headed. Like I've got that answer in
the can like it. Seventeen thousand people have asked him
that this.
Speaker 5: We expect us ask about you know, expansion, playoff expansion,
conference expansion that's probably not gonna happen either.
Speaker 4: We'll ask some fun questions, so get those fun questions.
Speaker 3: Were damn it a conference that sucks? Huh? Actually I'd
like for you.
Speaker 4: To ask that actually would be a lot of fun.
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Speaker 3: All right, welcome backgain OTB. Here in our number two.
Speaker 4: To kick off our number three, we are going to
be joined by the Commissioner of the Southeastern Conference, Greg Sankie.
Looking forward to that conversation. Right now, it's all about
Alabama here you see right across, Actually you can't see
because Moscona decided to turn the camera towards the same
three trophies every day. But if the camera was flipped,
which hopefully it will be tomorrow, we didn't have time
to do it today.
Speaker 3: You'll see.
Speaker 4: You got Dantae Lawson set to go here. I think
he's going to go on the podium here coming up
pretty soon. It is going to be Florida and Oklahoma
in the afternoon.
Speaker 3: Florida and Oklahoma to the teams that we've talked about.
Speaker 4: They've got quarterbacks that people are excited about.
Speaker 3: I want, man, I want to see both these guys
in person.
Speaker 4: Like I like, I don't I don't want to be
like the roy D Mercer, how big a boy are you?
Speaker 3: But like I want to size them up a little bit.
Speaker 4: Because you mentioned like Leonora Sellers, I'm like, yeah, I
gotta looks fart, yeah right right.
Speaker 3: I want to see Lagway. I want to see Johmeterier.
Speaker 4: They're probably the two of the most intrigued by just
to kind of see their stature and how they carry
themselves and how they walk into a room.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got some.
Speaker 5: We got two teams, Alabama and Florida, both bringing two
linemen of their of their three players that they brought.
So was shown a little grit today. Alabama their quarterback situation,
Ty Simpson, Austin mack Keelon Russellake. So they didn't they
chose not to bring quarterback only. I think one of
two teams this week that's not bringing a quarterback. What
what we talked about that yesterday. I think that every
team should be required to bring a quarterback just for
the sake of a storyline over here and just kind
of see him. But what do you think about their
their quarterback roun.
Speaker 3: Some media member just tripped down there. No, he got
a good.
Speaker 4: One and he got back up. It's a good question
that you just asked. But he just tried to the
guy in the green polo right there, that's racing the
camera up on the left, Matt on the left of it. Yes,
this day was trying to get Oh my god, he
was trying to get the perfect spot. And I think
his chin hit the ground first was a good fault.
He was trying to play it off. Oh my gosh.
All right, sorry, repeat your question.
Speaker 5: I don't even remember, Like, can you stand up and
give us a little demonstration?
Speaker 3: Now he fell.
Speaker 4: Forward, Well, he had the camera and so he saved
the camera. So he has this very expensive camera and
you can tell. So he's trying to walk around. He's
got it over his head and he's trying to take pictures.
Speaker 3: And then he's got in the back right here. Yeah,
you see him, younger guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he got clipped and I'm pretty sure his
chin hit the ground first. My gosh, someone's got to
have that on somebody. I'm trying to look now mal
Marl caught it. No, i't where Marlar is. He's over there.
Speaker 5: I was just asked you about the quarterback room. So yeah,
it's one of I think two teams. I believe only
get No. One of three team for no, there's goodness
quot they didn't bring the quarterback tomorrow. There's only one
quarterback here, yeah tomorrow, Yeah, but the only.
Speaker 3: One today not bring it.
Speaker 4: But it was like Kentucky's like Zach Calzada, Okay, he's
been in the SEC before U. For Missouri, they've got
a quarterback that transferred in from Penn State.
Speaker 3: He's going to be the guy. Everybody knows. He's the guy.
Speaker 4: Text A and M's a question mark Marcell Rena being here.
But for Alabama it's a different one because why is
ty Simpson not here?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Because he hasn't separated himself. And I think ty Simpson,
I think Mac who.
Speaker 3: Awesome sixty six transferred from Washington.
Speaker 4: Was it so like when I think of Mac and
I was about to say, you know, he's a transfer, but.
Speaker 3: He's a transfer from them. From him, like he's a
transfer from.
Speaker 4: He's got and Ryan Grubb, who's now the offensive coordinator
coming back from being with the Seahawks, Like he's got
a chance. And I know, like we're just tissing some
Tys Simpson and look, keiln. Russell is a five star guy.
He'll have some plays, but I don't think he's going
to be the starter, like Max the guy to watch. Yeah,
because when you accept a transfer from a guy that
you recruited, it was a big get for Washington at
the time too.
Speaker 5: It says something that he's going to go across the
country and for Kaitlin to continue to recruit him and
be like, all right, that's a dude that I liked
what he did in high school. I liked what he
did at Washington, and like I'm gonna move get him
to come to the University of Alabama and compete for
the shop. He did not get him to come over
here without the promise of go win the job. Yeah,
like it's out here, you're not going to get the
first look, right, but go win it.
Speaker 3: Take it. Make my decision easy.
Speaker 5: That's what coach has always said during quarterback competitions. Yeah,
make my decision easy. Yeah, don't make me have to
make a tough decision. I want somebody to go out
there and win it. So to me, when you don't
bring a quarterback to this thing, it's like you that
message is out there.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: We'll take our final break of our number two. We
got Greg Sankie joining us in about ten minutes from now.
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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in. It is going to be
a short segment. I do apologize we went long.
Speaker 3: We didn't less than a minute.
Speaker 4: We didn't anticipate Cole Cublic coming and having time to
take a breath, much less to join us for like
twelve minutes. So we do appreciate Cole hopping on with us.
But as I said, at some point here in this
third hour, I hadn't seen him yet. But we're gonna
be joined by Commissioner Greg Sankee commissioner of course at
the SEC and keep getting those questions in some great
questions inside the BAYEU four chat there. We're gonna have
fun with the commission and we're gonna let him let
loose and allow his personality, which he's got a great,
big personality to kind of show through, kind of talk
about some things maybe outside of courtrooms and outside of
things called transfer portal and NIL and state of college football.
So looking forward to that conversation, and we still have
Florida and Oklahoma still set to join us here in Atlanta,
so hopefully we can kind of break down some of
those teams and players as well.
Speaker 3: But stay locked in here. We will be back kicking
off our.
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