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Speaker 2: Now we got a call to is this coach? Is
Speaker 2: this Marcus?
Speaker 3: This is Marcus?
Speaker 4: Hello?
Speaker 2: How's it going find Marcus?
Speaker 5: Marcus Catolano from Mark He Well, he's he played at
Speaker 5: cell Point and Pima College, and he's got like an
Speaker 5: extended background in baseballs at the professional level.
Speaker 6: So and he's a barber. Look, it does a lot
Speaker 6: of things.
Speaker 2: Old Pueblo Tribe. So what's going on with this Marcus?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Old Pueblo Tribe is something that me and
Speaker 3: my friend Gay we uh.
Speaker 7: We thought we had an approach with, you know, pos
Speaker 7: we making a team in a certain league.
Speaker 3: That league kind of fell through and then we were.
Speaker 7: Still going through with it and got advice that we
Speaker 7: should probably make it something that guys can get picked up.
Speaker 7: And so we agreed, because you know, I've kind of
Speaker 7: done a little bit of that might sell for myself
Speaker 7: and for some friends and family, and it's about the city,
Speaker 7: you know, for the city. I know, there's a lot
Speaker 7: of guys in Tucson that.
Speaker 3: Got to play you know, some college ball.
Speaker 7: But life, you know, they came back and maybe they
Speaker 7: didn't get to experience pro ball, or guys that did
Speaker 7: get to the miners and you know, life happens, their
Speaker 7: release come and then now they're just working and they
Speaker 7: still want to play competitively. So we have a lot
Speaker 7: of different variations of guys of even just recently, young
Speaker 7: guy in nineteen I was able to get him in
Speaker 7: contact with the team out in Kansas City just recently,
Speaker 7: so now he's out there before even playing you know,
Speaker 7: any real games with us. I was able to get
Speaker 7: him and he's playing in the Pacas League right now
Speaker 7: and I and it's independent league, and there's leagues, you know,
Speaker 7: different independent leagues. There's Mexican leagues, there's leagues overseas. There's
Speaker 7: a little bit of everything, as far as it depends
Speaker 7: on that that individual and their level and what's next
Speaker 7: for them and what.
Speaker 8: They want to do.
Speaker 3: And we're we're not necessarily in.
Speaker 7: A league, but we just try to play competitive games
Speaker 7: whenever wherever we can, representing Tucson to ol.
Speaker 3: Pueblo, trying to bring some fun back to this baseball community.
Speaker 3: I know we have exciting things.
Speaker 7: With the Mexican team coming, and I honestly didn't know
Speaker 7: about that before we made the team. So it's it's
Speaker 7: it's going to.
Speaker 3: Be exciting to see what what can work out in
Speaker 3: the future with this team and all the baseball that
Speaker 3: we're trying to have out here and you know, professional
Speaker 3: baseball two here in Tucson.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I just love baseball and like uh.
Speaker 3: Like you said, I'm a barber.
Speaker 7: I do a little bit of this and that, and
Speaker 7: I just want to be able to help people, you know,
Speaker 7: serve in my community the way that I can with
Speaker 7: what I know.
Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, I know that you wanted to make this
Speaker 5: kind of a model of like the Savannah Bananas. The
Speaker 5: one time you're looking at that, is it more now
Speaker 5: just to be maybe a feed or two like the
Speaker 5: independent leagues or something another league that maybe you guys
Speaker 5: can develop and have these players move on to those
Speaker 5: leagues or what what's your mission?
Speaker 6: What's your your vision for this for this team?
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, so the when I mentioned like the Bananas.
Speaker 7: I just mentioned the fact that like people share about
Speaker 7: them knowing about them because of the social media aspect,
Speaker 7: and so that's that was the main.
Speaker 3: Like comparison, or at least goal that I was trying
Speaker 3: to get to.
Speaker 7: But that's that's similar to like Division one or professional
Speaker 7: they're trying to get the word out there about their team, highlights,
Speaker 7: things like that. And but as far as our goal, yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean there's a possibility we end up playing a
Speaker 7: team like the Bananas or something. We're open to anybody,
Speaker 7: especially if it's competitive, competitive, especially if it's entertaining. We
Speaker 7: are playing you know, old school baseball. We're not necessarily
Speaker 7: playing a different rule, you know.
Speaker 3: We we we use.
Speaker 7: Umpires from local you know, a local association, and they've
Speaker 7: coached everywhere from major league, minor league spring training, you know,
Speaker 7: off to high school tournaments, college, so we have you know,
Speaker 7: just from that to the good fields as Reed Park.
Speaker 7: We'll get into using Cherry later. We'll be at the
Speaker 7: key No Stadium. And the whole goal is to bring
Speaker 7: our team and our opponents the field of professional professionalism,
Speaker 7: but as well as the chance to get seen, scouted
Speaker 7: and just experienced exposure all the above. We we want
Speaker 7: to bring that that baseball.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: Love.
Speaker 7: I'm not saying it's gone, you know, but when the
Speaker 7: minor leagues are gone.
Speaker 3: It was kind of just like, you know, we're here
Speaker 3: and I played for the twoth on.
Speaker 7: Tomorrow, so it's and it's not like no, no knock
Speaker 7: on them, but you know, they do play here three
Speaker 7: months of the year and and.
Speaker 3: Then they also travel. So that's kind of our goal.
Speaker 7: Our goal maybe is when we're when they're gone, there's
Speaker 7: still two some baseball to be watched, you know, and
Speaker 7: we're going to try to be here involved in the
Speaker 7: city throughout the year as much as we can, and
Speaker 7: maybe not so much you know, on holidays November December.
Speaker 7: But that's like I said, we're not in the league,
Speaker 7: we're not in a season. We're we're open to any competition,
Speaker 7: especially if it is good, Like we want to play
Speaker 7: college teams, we want to play other independent or professional teams.
Speaker 7: We have close you know, friends and people that that
Speaker 7: are on our that have their best in you know, know,
Speaker 7: our best interests that that they know where we want
Speaker 7: to go. They have their connections, they.
Speaker 8: They have their needs as well.
Speaker 7: So we've already kind of talked a little bit about
Speaker 7: having guys go certain parts of the country, if not
Speaker 7: the world. But yeah, it's exciting, it's it's something that
Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to every weekend, you know, my family
Speaker 7: looks forward to and you know, and.
Speaker 8: Now that we're involving with the.
Speaker 3: Community especially, we want to get.
Speaker 7: Involved with youth, running camps, clinics, doing things like that.
Speaker 3: Before the season, especially before the fourth of July game,
Speaker 3: we want to do a meet and greet, you know.
Speaker 7: Get players to meet up with the team, get involved.
Speaker 3: Get players to know the city, city gets.
Speaker 7: To know the players the team, and it's going to
Speaker 7: be going year to come.
Speaker 3: We're gonna play a lot of different places other than Arizona.
Speaker 3: We're actually scheduling.
Speaker 8: Games and Globe games in No Gallas.
Speaker 7: Games in Yuma and Rocky Playing, and yeah, Phoenix. We
Speaker 7: have scenic games in Phoenix next weekend. So that's our
Speaker 7: goals to represent Tucson in in uh southern and southern Arizona.
Speaker 3: We might take some trips you know, elsewhere outside of
Speaker 3: the state and coming up.
Speaker 2: So the league, so there's no real league, like you said,
Speaker 2: you said it a couple of times, So now you're
Speaker 2: just kind of scheduling in advance to wherever you can
Speaker 2: get a game exactly.
Speaker 6: Will you guys open up this Saturday right though against the.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Angels are a local, they're a local men's team,
Speaker 7: and then the week after that it's the same kind
Speaker 7: of situation. But all these teams that we play have
Speaker 7: you know, guys that either played collegeball, ex pro ball,
Speaker 7: and so the teams that we're playing up coming up
Speaker 7: this this month, and it's.
Speaker 3: Not to like, you know, take away anything.
Speaker 7: From those anybody, you know, all of us are you know,
Speaker 7: just going.
Speaker 3: Out there doing one hundred percent. But we're still establishing.
Speaker 7: Imagine this month as like a spring training version and
Speaker 7: then our opening day would be like fourth of July.
Speaker 7: After that, we're gonna definitely have an establishment of teams
Speaker 7: because we'll.
Speaker 3: Be doing split squad. We have enough for two teams,
Speaker 3: and that's that's.
Speaker 7: The goal, is to get guys reps, get get them
Speaker 7: some type of stats, get them video footage of them,
Speaker 7: you know, making great plays, good hits, and yeah, it's
Speaker 7: it's all kind of like we're all guinea pigging this.
Speaker 7: We're all figuring it out as we go.
Speaker 3: We know there's a lot of room for growth and
Speaker 3: and learn, you know, things to learn, but the the
Speaker 3: main goal is just getting the best.
Speaker 7: Possible quality of baseball on the field, wherever, whenever. And
Speaker 7: also with that being said, we have sponsors, uh that
Speaker 7: are helping us out that I would like to think
Speaker 7: and shout out RCD Demolition, Rolie's Mexican Patio right way,
Speaker 7: heating and cooling, We have Edge Barbershop, myself mar Shops,
Speaker 7: and then we have ah, we have a few other
Speaker 7: people helping us out as far as like not just.
Speaker 3: You know, sponsoring partnerships.
Speaker 7: Right so like like Young Mac Films, he's doing a
Speaker 7: lot of video work, Jersey plug they're they're helping us
Speaker 7: get our jerseys, you know this this first season.
Speaker 3: And and we also have our our coach, Mike Benson,
Speaker 3: he has his own brand, Athletes for Equality. They're gonna
Speaker 3: he's gonna help us out with merch. So we're we're
Speaker 3: still you know, seeking partnerships, sponsorships.
Speaker 7: We need, we need any help we can get, you know,
Speaker 7: as far as just getting the word out.
Speaker 3: We do our part Our jerseys.
Speaker 7: Coming up that we just ordered have our sponsors on there.
Speaker 7: And so we've gotten a lot of compliments on the
Speaker 7: team colors and the jerseys, and from what I've seen
Speaker 7: so far, as far as you know, we've been practicing
Speaker 7: since April.
Speaker 3: We've had you know, the tryouts. With the tryouts, really.
Speaker 7: We're scrimmages, and so we've been playing games since April
Speaker 7: with maybe one or two days off, one weekends off.
Speaker 3: But the team's looking solid.
Speaker 8: We have some really good.
Speaker 3: Players that there deserve to be.
Speaker 7: Playing professional baseball, you know, and not necessarily working.
Speaker 3: Out here in this Arizona heat.
Speaker 8: You know. I mean, we all got to do what
Speaker 8: we got to do.
Speaker 3: But these guys have put in some work, you know,
Speaker 3: whether it was college or some other pro ball.
Speaker 2: And well, Marcus, Marcus, we gotta go. We gotta go
Speaker 2: to commercial break. We appreciate you luck, but it's going
Speaker 2: to be at Repark, you said.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, party of five.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we'll talk more about it once we come
Speaker 2: back from the break. Thanks a bunch of Marcus. Good
Speaker 2: luck to you.
Speaker 8: Guys, Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Less you have a website, you have a website.
Speaker 5: They don't have a website that I know of, but
Speaker 5: I know they play this Saturday at three pm. At
Speaker 5: re park Field five Angels. Okay, we'll talk more about it. Thanks.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to wile about herel Fox Sports fortun
Speaker 2: Coofie arn Ski, Riverta and today with me is Jaba
Speaker 2: morelest Blom and work on the board. Now on the
Speaker 2: phone we have a former you of a baseball star,
Speaker 2: Wes Clements and broadcaster. Are you doing?
Speaker 10: What's what's going on? Guys?
Speaker 2: No, We're doing okay. Hey, has you have a figured
Speaker 2: a way how to put them put you in their
Speaker 2: luggage to take you.
Speaker 12: I don't.
Speaker 17: I haven't got that call and not a chance as
Speaker 17: they fit me in a suitcase.
Speaker 2: Well, you are kind of a looking charm, right.
Speaker 10: They have done well.
Speaker 17: The last three years when I have done that, worked
Speaker 17: their games, there's no question about it, all the way
Speaker 17: from three conference tournaments ago in the beloved Pact twelve
Speaker 17: where they got to the final against the Oregon Ducks.
Speaker 17: Ironically that that ends up being the regional that the
Speaker 17: Cats win, and then what they also got the Hope
Speaker 17: that year, and then of course last year at the
Speaker 17: last final Pack twelve.
Speaker 10: Conference tournament they won that. And then.
Speaker 17: Actually last year though I was at HI Corporate when
Speaker 17: they won the Pac twelve regular season championship, had that
Speaker 17: three game series against the Beavers which was incredible, and
Speaker 17: then of course that's been Eugene this past weekend. So yeah,
Speaker 17: it's done.
Speaker 10: Okay.
Speaker 5: I don't think what was that twelve and one something
Speaker 5: like that that they've done when you're broadcasting the games
Speaker 5: in the last three years, something.
Speaker 17: Like that, Well, they went to a three of Oregon State.
Speaker 17: I don't know how they did in the tournament when
Speaker 17: they got to the final against Oregon three years ago.
Speaker 17: I know they went through the the other side because
Speaker 17: they lost to cal in that in that tournament, but
Speaker 17: that could have been the only loss.
Speaker 10: I'm not sure if they were under seated last year
Speaker 10: in the tactical tournament.
Speaker 6: It's just amazing.
Speaker 5: You got you got to see them finally this year
Speaker 5: up in Eugene very you know, they they were dominant
Speaker 5: all phases and pitching, hitting, defense. I mean, they couldn't
Speaker 5: play any better. Really, just talk about now, Arizona will
Speaker 5: go to the to the World Series.
Speaker 6: If they do what coming up.
Speaker 17: Here against they'll go to the They'll go to Omaha.
Speaker 10: They need to play super regional.
Speaker 17: There's eight super regionals that will start this weekend.
Speaker 10: There's sixteen teams left and the winner.
Speaker 17: Of each of these super regionals will end up in
Speaker 17: Omaha to play for a Natty.
Speaker 5: What do you think they have to do against North
Speaker 5: Carolina to keep this going? What do what do you
Speaker 5: expect out of them?
Speaker 17: Well, and this is no disrespect to the last two
Speaker 17: teams that the Cats played in Utah Valley and cal Pally,
Speaker 17: but they're going to see some much better starting pitching
Speaker 17: and bullpen pitching from.
Speaker 10: The Tar Hills.
Speaker 17: Uh, this is North Carolina team that finished second in
Speaker 17: the ACC. There's as hot as the Cats are. They
Speaker 17: swept their ACC Conference tournament. They lost one game to
Speaker 17: Oklahoma and then turn around and buried them for the
Speaker 17: title to get to the Super Obviously, they're going to
Speaker 17: have their home crowd with them.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 10: That said the.
Speaker 17: Cats had faced tremendous peach pitching in the Big Twelve
Speaker 17: tournament as well. I didn't score a lot of runs
Speaker 17: the last game when we won it.
Speaker 10: Did I just say we? I guess I could say weeks.
Speaker 17: I'm not I'm not working with anybody right now, but we.
Speaker 17: I mean we were shut out until the ninth inning
Speaker 17: until Andrew Kane came up and hit that game time
Speaker 17: home run.
Speaker 10: So it is again, you know, I think the weather
Speaker 10: might play a part back there. I don't know.
Speaker 17: That's one yard that I have not been to, so
Speaker 17: I don't know the wind blows in and blows out.
Speaker 17: I know there's a lot of runs scored in every
Speaker 17: regional as well, But you know, conversely for North Carolina,
Speaker 17: they're gonna have to face our pitching as well. And
Speaker 17: I think as good as some of our starters have been,
Speaker 17: I don't think they've been consistent speaking of our starting
Speaker 17: pitchers week after week after the week. But when each
Speaker 17: and every one of our starters has been really really
Speaker 17: good at some time or another during this year, our
Speaker 17: back end of our bullpen is it's real good.
Speaker 10: And then of course with.
Speaker 17: Smith Bailey, the freshman who started in the game plinter
Speaker 17: of the Eugene we just got to hang on to
Speaker 17: this kid.
Speaker 10: I mean, he was a special Yeah, he's special.
Speaker 2: So you kind of alluded to this just accidentally. But
Speaker 2: when you're in the booth, having been a former U
Speaker 2: of a guy, is it difficult being not biased when
Speaker 2: you cover do I'm sure it is. You do it,
Speaker 2: you know, flawlessly, but you know, deep down kind of
Speaker 2: maybe is it difficult?
Speaker 10: I got to tell you, you know, it really isn't.
Speaker 17: I guess I've been doing this for over a decade
Speaker 17: now for ESPN, and even if I'm not doing an
Speaker 17: Arizona game, Arizona's will come up, I mean, scores, whether
Speaker 17: it be the Pac twelve games that I did, and
Speaker 17: and if unless I'm working with somebody who's going to
Speaker 17: bust my chops and talk about my cats or so
Speaker 17: on and so on, like Roxy, I'll bust his chops
Speaker 17: on because he's a cow guy.
Speaker 10: He went to cal But I really have not run
Speaker 10: into that that, I will tell you.
Speaker 17: The only instance where I showed my my colors was
Speaker 17: ironically in High Corbett, where I also happened to play
Speaker 17: for the Toros there and played triple A ball right
Speaker 17: there for the Astra for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 15: That when.
Speaker 10: Who got to hit the right center Xavier? Was it
Speaker 10: summer to when the to walk Oregon stayed off two
Speaker 10: years ago?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 12: That was.
Speaker 6: That was summer? That was summer Hill, right.
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, that's what that was summer. Okay, So when
Speaker 17: Mickelacus was at first, I know that and once when
Speaker 17: he got hit, and of course the place was electric
Speaker 17: at High Corbett. But when that ball hit the gap
Speaker 17: and I knew that he was going to score, I
Speaker 17: was doing a game with Darren Sutton and I stood
Speaker 17: up And that's the first time I stood up and
Speaker 17: put my hands up in eleven years of working a game,
Speaker 17: and I caught myself. And in this era of social
Speaker 17: media where you have cameras everywhere, I put them directly up,
Speaker 17: literally straight up, two hands up, and then I put
Speaker 17: him down as fast as I could and then looked
Speaker 17: around to anybody see me.
Speaker 8: But that seal.
Speaker 17: I mean, that is the only time that I've ever
Speaker 17: shown any love for any team in the boots whatsoever.
Speaker 17: But it's not, It really isn't, because if you get
Speaker 17: locked into what your job is, it's the same thing
Speaker 17: with you. Right if you're talking to somebody, or you're
Speaker 17: talking to two people, or you're gonna talk to two coaches,
Speaker 17: you're not gonna and they're gonna come on and in
Speaker 17: the consecutive hours. You're not going to show any bias
Speaker 17: towards either of them, because that's professionalism and that's what
Speaker 17: you're gonna do. So I'm just gonna tell everybody what
Speaker 17: I see on both sides, right, and I'm gonna.
Speaker 10: Go out of my way to make sure that I
Speaker 10: do not if I'm gonna give.
Speaker 17: I mean, for instance, when we played cal Pauly to
Speaker 17: win it on Sunday, I may I talk probably more
Speaker 17: about Larry Lee than Chappelle and and and Trip Couch
Speaker 17: until Vanilla and advanced, Uh, just because I mean number one,
Speaker 17: he deserves it.
Speaker 10: He's a legend. In college baseball. But it's just you know,
Speaker 10: part of the profession, you know.
Speaker 5: West with this uh bananas and the you know, the
Speaker 5: the dyeing of the hair and all that and the
Speaker 5: fun that this team is having you play for Jerry Kendall.
Speaker 5: So let me ask you, what what do you think
Speaker 5: Jerry Kendall would have done in this situation with with
Speaker 5: these guys?
Speaker 17: All right, so you open the can of worms here.
Speaker 17: So here's what I'm gonna tell you. Uh, we see
Speaker 17: it all the time. Now we're in a different era
Speaker 17: and I and of course social media is so a
Speaker 17: part of everything.
Speaker 10: But what I can tell you is that.
Speaker 17: The kids and the players will will only.
Speaker 10: Do what they're allowed to get away with.
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 10: So their behavior is a learned behavior.
Speaker 17: They're the dudes that these players, current players saw playing
Speaker 17: MLB and playing League Baseball. Dance, danced around, they did
Speaker 17: pirouettes sometimes around the base, They went into dugouts, they
Speaker 17: did some celebrations, they did all these kind of things.
Speaker 10: That's what they grew up with. It's it's their generation
Speaker 10: as their era.
Speaker 17: M my honest opinion, and I'm quite certain that players
Speaker 17: don't do anything that their coaches don't allow. Players will
Speaker 17: get away with whatever their coaches allow. And so I mean, look, ship, Chip,
Speaker 17: Chip Hall played for JK.
Speaker 10: He knows.
Speaker 3: Look, we were talking to him on an in game
Speaker 3: interview during one.
Speaker 2: Of the games about that. I was going to ask
Speaker 2: you about that.
Speaker 17: And mclacis makes his play. It spends around and everything
Speaker 17: it makes it play and and Chip goes.
Speaker 10: Roxy made the call, and and Roxy says good play.
Speaker 10: And Chip said, yeah, it's good play.
Speaker 17: No chance would coach Kendall allowed me to do what
Speaker 17: he just did because he and then he actually did
Speaker 17: a voice over at JA.
Speaker 2: Yes, how was that was that spot on?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 10: He again, I said, on broadcast on Friday.
Speaker 17: Night, or excuse me, Sunday night. We didn't understand at
Speaker 17: the time why JK Coach Kendall was so.
Speaker 18: Ah.
Speaker 17: He always wanted to concentrate upon thements, no matter what,
Speaker 17: he always wanted to do it a correct way. It's
Speaker 17: a fundamentally sound way. And it was over and over
Speaker 17: and over and over and over again. And we're just players.
Speaker 10: And sometimes we'd talk amongst ourselves like, what's the big
Speaker 10: deal we got it out? What's the big deal we
Speaker 10: got the out?
Speaker 17: On and on and so, but you don't recognize why
Speaker 17: he did what he did until you start to play
Speaker 17: the game at a high level. You get into pro baseball,
Speaker 17: and you understand that everybody that you're playing against the
Speaker 17: very first year that you play in a ball was
Speaker 17: the best player on their.
Speaker 10: Team in college.
Speaker 17: So now you got the best of the best, and
Speaker 17: those best to the best are going to separate to
Speaker 17: go to two A, double A, and the best of
Speaker 17: those are going to go to three A and it's
Speaker 17: going and the guys that move are going to be
Speaker 17: the guys that are fundamentally sound and do everything the
Speaker 17: correct way so that they don't have any baggage. And
Speaker 17: then when you get into coaching and manage it in
Speaker 17: pro ball, then I mean, that's really where it hit me.
Speaker 17: And everybody that's manager's ever played for Arizona will tell
Speaker 17: you that a part of their coaching came from JK.
Speaker 17: And that part of the way they talked to the
Speaker 17: players and explain why it's important came from JK.
Speaker 10: Right, he was all the way up to Tito Franklin.
Speaker 6: He was he was straight and narrow, but he also
Speaker 6: was affable.
Speaker 5: I remember he would call me Julian Haave or whenever
Speaker 5: he approached him for an interview. So I think he
Speaker 5: would you would welcome this, and and as long as
Speaker 5: the guys were winning, right, if they were winning, they're
Speaker 5: playing well, he would be.
Speaker 17: I don't want to say he'd welcome word, but no, no,
Speaker 17: he wouldn't embrace it. He wouldn't welcome it. It wouldn't happen.
Speaker 17: You know, it just wouldn't happen.
Speaker 10: Listen.
Speaker 17: I mean, I know he's probably looking down and seeing
Speaker 17: it all and saying, boy, boy, boy, am I glad
Speaker 17: I'm up here?
Speaker 2: How are you allowing this to happen?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 17: Yeah, it is kind of like you know, old kind
Speaker 17: of those kind of things, and like Chip, I taught
Speaker 17: you better than that, And how dare you allow your
Speaker 17: players to do the do it the wrong way? But
Speaker 17: again it's you have to be as society of alves
Speaker 17: and everything else is, including sports. If you're going to
Speaker 17: be that dude speaking of a head coach in college baseball,
Speaker 17: Now that says, okay, nope, you can't do any kind
Speaker 17: of line celebration after a home run in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 17: You're you're probably not going to have a lot of
Speaker 17: kids and want to come and speak for your very
Speaker 17: true and it is what it is. Now do most
Speaker 17: probably not like it? Most head coaches probably answers. No,
Speaker 17: they probably don't. They probably don't. I'm not big no
Speaker 17: matter what on celebrating when you're losing a game, right period.
Speaker 17: I mean, there's no the goal is to win a game,
Speaker 17: and if you're losing, why are you celebrating?
Speaker 15: Right?
Speaker 17: I mean that's something that rubs me the wrong way.
Speaker 2: Well, we gotta go, we gotta go take the break now. Hey,
Speaker 2: appreciate your time. We'll see what they do this weekend.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I'm the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, and today with me
Speaker 2: is have you and Morales now on the phone. We
Speaker 2: have Steve Strong, former you of a baseball star and
Speaker 2: national title holder back in the day.
Speaker 10: How you doing, Steve good?
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Guys, Yes, yes, I know you've been on the show before.
Speaker 2: We have Andy Lopez on tomorrow. And I don't know
Speaker 2: why this came over the weekend, just in my mind
Speaker 2: because I've covered basketball so long and we know how
Speaker 2: difficult it is to win a title in basketball, but
Speaker 2: I'm thinking that it's probably more difficult to want to
Speaker 2: win one in baseball. I don't know if you want
Speaker 2: to agree with me disagree with me, but I'm sure
Speaker 2: it's very, very difficult because of all the teams that
Speaker 2: you have to go through.
Speaker 4: Yeah, long season, multiple regionals, and you're seeing, like you said,
Speaker 4: you've got to beat different teams, different pitchers, and with
Speaker 4: with baseball, you're you're kind of a different team every
Speaker 4: night depending on the starting pitching. So yeah, it's it's
Speaker 4: certainly a challenging, challenging task to get to a national
Speaker 4: championship title.
Speaker 5: You you won one in eighty six with Chip Hale
Speaker 5: as one of your teammates has had a great team
Speaker 5: that year. What are your thoughts about how he's been
Speaker 5: able to develop the last four years as a head
Speaker 5: coach at the college level with Arizona. What what do
Speaker 5: you see out of out of his team that you
Speaker 5: that you expected that he would be able to do.
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 4: You know, I think, like anything, it's a learning process
Speaker 4: and ship coming out of a long pro ball coaching career.
Speaker 4: Those seasons are one hundred and sixty game schedules and
Speaker 4: and you've got a lot longer period to kind of
Speaker 4: let things play out. College game the college.
Speaker 3: Season shorter, and there's a greater sense of urgency to win.
Speaker 4: So I think that first season he had to kind
Speaker 4: of adapt to that mindset of every game means so
Speaker 4: much more as opposed to that one hundred and sixty
Speaker 4: game pro ball schedule.
Speaker 3: So, you know, that first year was certainly a.
Speaker 4: Learning curve for him from that standpoint, and then you
Speaker 4: know he's gradually kind of blended the pro ball mentality
Speaker 4: of realizing it's a hard game, it's still a long season.
Speaker 4: Can't play it like football, where you've got, you know,
Speaker 4: one game a week to really ramp up for.
Speaker 3: But also understand that a college game with RPIs and everything,
Speaker 3: there's a sense of urgency to win every night and
Speaker 3: and you try not to let any games to get
Speaker 3: get away from you.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you. I'm not sure it's true,
Speaker 2: but I use the adage team's kind of take on
Speaker 2: the personality of the coach. If so, what does this
Speaker 2: team have personality wise? Having played for Hip, you know.
Speaker 4: Number one, I don't think they give up at all.
Speaker 4: Number two, you know they really play together, that this
Speaker 4: group gets along, they're you know, they're just really rooting
Speaker 4: for each other. And Chip was always that way as
Speaker 4: a teammate. So when you're around them, you.
Speaker 3: Can see that they like each other.
Speaker 4: You can see that they enjoy playing together, and and
Speaker 4: you know, they really feel like they can win every
Speaker 4: night out. So you know, they like to compete, and
Speaker 4: that was Chip's m o. He was a guy that
Speaker 4: loved to compete.
Speaker 5: Now we we asked this question of Wes Clements. He
Speaker 5: was just a guest on the on the show about
Speaker 5: the you know, the extra extracurricular stuff with the bananas
Speaker 5: and the you know, and the dying of the hair,
Speaker 5: the mustaches and so forth, and basically just stay loose.
Speaker 5: And we asked him if if Jerry Kendall, how he would,
Speaker 5: you know, handle that situation. He didn't didn't think that
Speaker 5: it would would fly with Kendall. But do you I
Speaker 5: think you have a different viewpoint on that, right, How
Speaker 5: do you think he would?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think West got the nineteen eighty version
Speaker 4: of coach JK. We got the nineteen eighty six version
Speaker 4: of JK. And just like any coach, you kind of
Speaker 4: evolved and and you know, JK was a strict disciplinarian,
Speaker 4: wanted to respect the game. But you know, just one
Speaker 4: quick story, Tommy Henzo, Dave Taylor would would play and
Speaker 4: garmle At would play rock paper scissors. Every day at practice.
Speaker 4: They stretched in us one line together and they would
Speaker 4: play rock paper scissors to decide who got to stretch
Speaker 4: first in the front of the line. And then it
Speaker 4: gradually evolved into well, the loser had to go stretch
Speaker 4: somewhere and the two guys could send them to the
Speaker 4: centerfield or the dugout. Well. As the season progressed and
Speaker 4: things were going pretty good. By the time we got
Speaker 4: to the National championship game, that tradition kept playing out.
Speaker 4: Gar Malay stretched at the top of the Rosenblat Stadium
Speaker 4: and left field by himself. That's where they sent him,
Speaker 4: and Coach Kinnell was okay with that because that was
Speaker 4: kind of part of the tradition. So I think, you know,
Speaker 4: Coach Kennell expected us to compete, to win, to be successful,
Speaker 4: but he definitely let guys kind of be themselves a
Speaker 4: little bit. So, you know, in today's world, the culture
Speaker 4: has evolved a little bit in college baseball, and so
Speaker 4: you know, he was pretty good at adapting to that.
Speaker 4: So you know, I don't think he would love it,
Speaker 4: but I think, you know, he would embrace the just
Speaker 4: the enthusiasm of the guys and joining the game.
Speaker 2: So two questions, So did he have any superstitions? One
Speaker 2: because you know baseball players are notorious for that. And two,
Speaker 2: I think that Chip and we all content Chip varying degrees. Uh,
Speaker 2: he was getting some heat, probably really undeserved. It's just
Speaker 2: your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mean Chips superstition, you know, a coach coach.
Speaker 6: Coach Kittle and also he has any supersystem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, JK. I think he was just one
Speaker 4: that was never going to be. He would never let
Speaker 4: us touch the foul line. He always kind of jumped
Speaker 4: over that foul line when you go out to Coach
Speaker 4: thirty always went and touched the bag before he got
Speaker 4: in there the coach's box. I can always just remember
Speaker 4: seeing him do that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: As far as Chip, you know, criticism for Chip. You know,
Speaker 4: the expectations of Arizona baseball just go all the way
Speaker 4: back to the you know, the long success that it's had.
Speaker 4: The games kind of evolved with Nil and you know
Speaker 4: what's happened.
Speaker 3: With the Southeast Conference and the ACC.
Speaker 4: And the kind of money they have. I think the
Speaker 4: expectations for you know, Arizona baseball need to be high,
Speaker 4: but the people have to understand that they're going to
Speaker 4: have to operate in a different format. Right, They're not
Speaker 4: going to buy free agents out there the way Tennessee
Speaker 4: and LSU will, and so they're going to have to
Speaker 4: evaluate talent and then develop it. And they've done a
Speaker 4: great job of it. I mean they've avout They've found
Speaker 4: guys like Mason White that get overlooked a little bit
Speaker 4: Crampkowski didn't really pitch his senior year, but they saw
Speaker 4: something in him. Uh, you know, summer Hill was not
Speaker 4: recruited as highly as the kind of guy he is,
Speaker 4: but they they saw talent there, they brought them here
Speaker 4: and and they've been able to develop that talent. And
Speaker 4: I think that's that's what they're going to have to,
Speaker 4: you know, operate on.
Speaker 3: As opposed to have enough a large checkbook and buy
Speaker 3: free agents.
Speaker 14: And so.
Speaker 4: Sometimes that talent takes longer to develop, and nobody better
Speaker 4: at doing that than Chip.
Speaker 3: And his staff.
Speaker 5: You made a good point about that they can't really
Speaker 5: the transfer portal. They can't go out and spend money
Speaker 5: and bring guys here. They have to, you know, find
Speaker 5: diamonds in the rough. And it's and these guys have
Speaker 5: really come come, you know, come forward. We saw them
Speaker 5: in in Eugene, Oregon. A lot of these the relief
Speaker 5: pitchers that nobody probably has heard about the way they pitched.
Speaker 5: Just talk about how Chip Hales has been able to
Speaker 5: do that, and is that going to be able to
Speaker 5: be enough in the long run for somebody, you know,
Speaker 5: like let's say another team throws money out of you
Speaker 5: of a player and they leave is you know, you
Speaker 5: have to walk both lines, right, So how do you
Speaker 5: feel like Chip in the long run will fare in
Speaker 5: that situation.
Speaker 3: You know, first of all, I think the guys love
Speaker 3: playing for him, and you know, he's brought a sense
Speaker 3: of urgency, but he's also brought kind of a pro
Speaker 3: ball mentality. You know that if you listen to the kids,
Speaker 3: they call him Chip, they talk they talked to him
Speaker 3: like he's you know, he's a major league manager and
Speaker 3: their pro ball guys. So that atmosphere is is a
Speaker 3: little bit unique I think in college baseball, and and
Speaker 3: guys love being there, They love playing for him, they
Speaker 3: love pictures, you.
Speaker 4: Know, really thrive under Kevin and under John and and
Speaker 4: and have a great deal of confidence in those guys
Speaker 4: in terms of developing in them. So you know, I
Speaker 4: think we can maintain and keep guys here because of that.
Speaker 4: Clearly we're in a super regional now that just kind
Speaker 4: of creates another level of notoriety around the country that
Speaker 4: you can come here and you know, Summer Hill probably
Speaker 4: goes in the first round this year, which means we're
Speaker 4: gonna have three first rounders in the last four years.
Speaker 4: So you can come to Arizona and go in the
Speaker 4: first round, right, So yeah, I don't think it should
Speaker 4: hinder us. It's just there may be periods of time
Speaker 4: when we're developing talent and we're.
Speaker 3: Not just gonna buy free agents to fill them in.
Speaker 3: You know, where we need a catcher next.
Speaker 4: Year and you know, you go get the kid from
Speaker 4: Notre Dame and plug him.
Speaker 3: In or something that's just not gonna happen at Arizona.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, Steve, don't mind discussion. What do you
Speaker 2: do for a living now?
Speaker 3: I've actually been with Meri Lance for the last thirty years.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I was gonna try to pick you if
Speaker 2: you were like a financial guy. We got about two minutes.
Speaker 2: How would you solve that problem though? Because you know
Speaker 2: what's the problem. SEC is going to buy teams and
Speaker 2: talent obviously, but you know, talent doesn't always win the day.
Speaker 2: And we're talking to the softball team here, I mean,
Speaker 2: how are they going to get better even beyond what
Speaker 2: they've been because if you have to find players look
Speaker 2: to take the stack, how how is Tucson, little old
Speaker 2: Tucson going to do this?
Speaker 4: You a well, I think you know from a baseball perspective.
Speaker 4: First of all, Trip Couch is a former major league
Speaker 4: scout that is a tremendous talent evaluator. He's a great recruiter.
Speaker 4: You know, he was with South Carolina when they had
Speaker 4: those great teams.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 3: He's a national guy. So you if you look at
Speaker 3: a roster.
Speaker 4: We got guys from you know, Illinois, from Minnesota, not
Speaker 4: just traditional Arizona, California.
Speaker 3: So I think they're recruiting nationally.
Speaker 4: They're kind of gone to some cold weather spots where
Speaker 4: you know, they've been able to find some guys that
Speaker 4: are overlooked, and now they're starting to get a reputation
Speaker 4: with Kevin to develop really elite pitching. And you know,
Speaker 4: I think if you talk to the parents of these players,
Speaker 4: they love playing for Chip and I think they would
Speaker 4: endorse any kid coming down here.
Speaker 3: So I think kids, I think they're going to survive on.
Speaker 4: Saying that we can develop pro talent. And that's really
Speaker 4: what everybody, all these kids want to do, is they
Speaker 4: want to go on to the next level. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that Tommy has that same philosophy. You know,
Speaker 2: you'll get some scratch, but you also have to prove yourself. Yep.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely, and you're right.
Speaker 4: I mean you look at the look at the postseason
Speaker 4: so far in the regional so not every SEC team, right,
Speaker 4: not even half of the SEC teams got through. So
Speaker 4: there's a lot of scrappy teams that you know, just
Speaker 4: played good baseball and beat up on some of the
Speaker 4: big boys that spend a lot of money.
Speaker 3: So that's good to see. I don't think that will
Speaker 3: ever change.
Speaker 2: You can get to this dance and the Pinto, yeah
Speaker 2: that's right, but I want to I want to drive
Speaker 2: the Mercedes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly makes it easier.
Speaker 2: Right, You look good, all right, appreciate your time, all right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, take care.
Speaker 6: Yeah, my pentos be getting beat up now, so you
Speaker 6: get it quite another one. Hey, it's still getting you
Speaker 6: from point A to point B.
Speaker 2: That was and that's my point. I mean, if you one,
Speaker 2: coaching matters. Coaching matters, right, If there's anything I've learned,
Speaker 2: coaching matters. Could you have a good coach? They find
Speaker 2: ways to get you to play better, play harder. I mean,
Speaker 2: come on, we covered loop for a long time, right. Uh,
Speaker 2: he didn't have those a lot of the five stars
Speaker 2: ports stars he had starting out, but he put it.
Speaker 2: But he put them together to do their roles.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and nobody better than that, right, right when you
Speaker 5: think about what he was able to do in the
Speaker 5: early years to establish Arizona, the development, you know, and
Speaker 5: he was a lot of like Wooden where you know,
Speaker 5: how you put your socks on, how you do things,
Speaker 5: and his workouts were very methodical. And I guess I did,
Speaker 5: didn't kind Kindle did that? Fundamentals? Fundamentals? Yeah, both West
Speaker 5: and Steve said it's just the same thing over and
Speaker 5: over again. He's very straight and narrow, and he he
Speaker 5: expects that from this players sure to be that type
Speaker 5: of type of person.
Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, and come on, how do you argue with
Speaker 2: the success that they that here's the here's the issue. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's assume they don't get past this, maybe get zero
Speaker 2: and two.
Speaker 6: Is it a good year? I think so? I'm sorry,
Speaker 6: I know, I think I think so.
Speaker 2: Especially to my point of the because women to the
Speaker 2: song of the Yeah, I mean, come on, you went
Speaker 2: forty eight and thirteen thirteen and it's not a good year.
Speaker 6: Come on, really, and they they haven't gone this foreigner
Speaker 6: chip pail.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they they're making that progression, right so that I
Speaker 5: think it's already a bonus now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, I totally agree, you totally greeed. We gotta go,
Speaker 2: ye Okay, well, thanks a bunch. Tomorrow'll see you for
Speaker 2: the last time. Yep, at least at least that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: when I'm running the board, So you have to send
Speaker 2: you some Salcea and some Brits. I want to talk
Speaker 2: about what you're doing tomorrow. Okay, I can officially say
Speaker 2: that starting tomorrow. God, I'm so nervous. Take care of
Speaker 2: you guys. Thanks, thank you,