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Welcome at Jay Drew of the Desert News. Jay, how

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you living doing?

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, good day to be alive.

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Speaker 1: It's a great day to be alive. Attitude of gratitude,

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love and appreciate that that that mentality here on our show. Jay,

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what's been keeping you busy for the last forty eight hours?

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What have you been writing about?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've just been writing about the Pop Tarts Bowl

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and got an interview with the guy from the Pop

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Tarts Bowl, and just so I've been writing a little

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bit about that, and and then of course, uh, you

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know the kind of the aftermath of the Big twelve

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championship game. So uh, those and then I did write

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a little preview article of BYU basketball playing in Madison

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Square Garden tonight. I'm not there obviously, Jackson Paynes there

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for the Desert News. But so those are the main

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Speaker 1: Let's talk Pop Tart's Bowl. First, b YU gets the

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maybe the consolation prize of college football head now to Orlando,

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and BYU fans not happy that they're on the outside

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looking in, but it's a nice consolation prize, and BYU

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seems pretty excited about it. Coli seems excited about it.

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Do you feel like the football team and players are

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excited about it collectively? Do you think there could be

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some opt outs within the BAU football program.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are all good questions. We don't know a

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lot other than what we heard, you know, Chase Roberts

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and Parker Kingston Tanner Wall talk about immediately in the

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aftermath of the game Saturday, and they all seem to

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think that the locker room was still really well intact,

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the culture was still there, and and of course things

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could change over course of the next couple of weeks,

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but and there may be some opt outs. Don't know,

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you know, every every situation is different, every young man

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is different. So I really don't know that, and I

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don't expect any from listening to Georgia Tech coach Brint

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being a pillar of one of their one of the

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pillars of their programs. So I hope there's no opt outs.

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I think it'll be a really close competitive game if

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both teams are intact from what they finished the season with.

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So yeah, as far as HOLBA, you've players are treating it.

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for the holidays. But I think these young guys, you know,

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their family really a lot of their family is the

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football team, so maybe that's a cool thing. It was

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last year in San Antonio for a lot of them.

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the players about when this game is being played two

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days after Christmas. And so from all I know, and

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really excited to be playing in Orlando, a really good

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Speaker 1: On the twenty seventh, Trevor Maddage I think, hopped on

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the BA Sports Nation and said that this BA football

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team and season is one of the best in BAA

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football history and it's the best maybe even since the

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nineteen eighty four National Championship season. Would you agree or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd wholeheartedly agree. I you know, they you just

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can't discount the fact they're in a power for a

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conference right now, even back then in two in nineteen

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eighty four, even in the Cotton Bowl year when they

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only lost one game, this strength of schedule is more difficult.

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a conference, playing the number four team in the country twice.

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even better than last year based on you know, the

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quality of their losses and that they went to the

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championship game. So yeah, I would buy into that as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't wait to see what happens. It's a

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good matchup Georgia Tech, not the matchup BAYU fans were

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hoping for. Notre Dame ends up saying we are the

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not so fighting We're the quitting Irish when it comes

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down to it. The ad has stated look, and it

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was the process that we had a problem with. It

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was the fact that we were in until we weren't

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at the end of it all. And if we had

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we would have probably taken a different path. But we

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were fooled. We were bamboozled issue, if you will, your thoughts,

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your commentary on the Notre Dame situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they really did have the rug pulled out from

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under them. I mean, what's the point of all these

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ranking shows a weekly I know, I like to watch them.

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I like to hear all the scuttle butter, the debate

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and going back and forth, listening to what the chair

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I think it's all good entertainment. So I know why

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they do all the I'm sure they get good ratings

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for ESPN, but I think there that's kind of a

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copra is they lead everybody on. In fact, in a

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way they basically told BYU, you know, hey, you're not in.

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Big twelve championship game or not. You got to win

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the game basically, or you're not in. I mean, I

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think that was the sentiment going in based on everything

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we got from those ranking shows. So I think that

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process is Notre Dame probably has a beef with as

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much as anything else is. They got their hopes up

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too high. It's like a kid on Christmas morning who

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thinks he's going to get a red wagon. What a

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red flyer wagon? You know, I know I wanted one

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and never got one, but you know, and then you

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get up that day and you get a Hot Wheels

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or something, so you know, you just they just got

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like you said, bamboozle. They just got their their hopes.

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are crushed, that's that's hard to deal with. So I

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can I don't agree with them not playing in the

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in the Bowl game, but I can understand it. Let's

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put it that way.

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Eight to one three eight zero eight zero eight seven

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seventy dollars off your first cleaning Jay. This BYU basketball

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team in a good spot heading out to Madison Square.

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Got you do a little preview of this game. I'm

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sure you were on the zoom call with Ky thoughts commentary.

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How do you see this game playing out tonight?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, I you know, you look at it

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on paper. B Why you should win this game? They're

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a more talented team than then Clemson. Clemson is has

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a lot of balance, but no real superstars like BYU's

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got arguably three superstars rob Rye, Aj Debontsa and Richie Saunders. Obviously,

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kebatatas we saw the other nights against col Baptist, is

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an outstanding player. So by you should win this game.

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You know, you just wonder if the bright lights of

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Madison Square Garden will get to them. I don't think

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last month they kind of got that maybe out of

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their system, and so I expect them to play well.

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question about the backup point guard and who will play that,

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you kid ourselves and say this is a perfect team yet.

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I think everything's on course. You know, of course, maybe

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three point shots don't fall or other things. I mean,

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upsets do happen, but on paper, I think by you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hope. So they're on a nice run right now.

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little bit they were a little bit shorthanded right in

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that in that Yukon game. So BYU basketball is in

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a good spot. BYU football in a good spot. They're donors, right,

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the corporate sponsors. They're booing up BYU athletics in a

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way that's never been seen before. And so the outlook

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of BA athletics seems to be very optimistic. You have

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Elder Holland, Elder Oaks, ras Ben, Elder benn Or, they're

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showing up to the games, they're showing up to the events. Well,

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give me your perspective on everything that's occurring down there

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in Provo and the investment that is being made by

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the the I mean, it's not from the church. It's

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not from b YU as an institution, but they're supporting

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the donors as they they go through this process.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of touched on this a lot last

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week when Klanney had the news conference to announce the extension.

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all this stuff. I know, I know they're not spending

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tithing dollars. I'm not suggesting that, but everybody seems to

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be all in on on boosting BYU athletics too, and

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redouble his efforts and so you know, moving forward, they

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can't take anything for granted. Just because you get you know,

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top dollar you're getting, maybe you have the money to

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spend on guys like Texas Tech did, that doesn't still

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guarantee success. You still have to put the chemistry together

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the marquee sports, the sports that pay the bills are

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certainly in top ten, top fifteen in the nation. You

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Speaker 1: Jay is the active nature of and the aggressive nature

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of BYU Athletics and its donors. The reason why UTAH

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is aggressively pursuing private equity through OTRO, the private equity

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firm and receiving a sizable sum to stay competitive, stay

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relevant here in the modern era. Give me your thoughts

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my first blush would have thought, yeah, that's kind

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of a reaction. You know, maybe not. I haven't read

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innovative and creative fundraising, booster getting boosters, more involved, whatever,

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right now, I would say, all good, And uh you know,

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it's certainly throughout college sports it's an arms race, and

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and everybody wants a piece of it, including you know,

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teams that have tasted that success in the past that

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you know they're boss and their alumni are going to

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want more of that in the future.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't the state legislature have to approve something like this?

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but I thought the state legislator has to approve any

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sort of action like this is as University of Utah

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is a state run institution.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how it all works together. Obviously,

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Universy of Utah has a board of trustees and they

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said today that they have approved it. I don't know

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if they ran that by the state legislature first or not.

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From a couple of tweets I've seen out there, maybe not.

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There have been some legislators Dan. I think Dan McKay

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was one of them. Not sure what area he represents,

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but he said something about that on social media. So

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but it would seem like they would have some people

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in the know that would have greenlighted this or at

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least gave, you know, preliminary approval for it to get

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this far.

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Speaker 1: Jay Drew des Red News A little Cougar Beat brought

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to you by Bresa Cleaning Services. Bresa makes it a

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breeze to keep your house clean, Jay, this modern era

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of athletics, I've always said that BYU has one more

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per dollar spent than any athletics apartment, any football program

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in the country. From nineteen seventy two to present day,

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I was chatting with Val Hell and Val told me

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in two thousand Lavelle was making only two hundred thousand

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dollars a year, which, you know, hey, that's a decent

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sub but respective comparatively to the market, it was well

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below market value. Would you agree with that assessment that

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bya football is one more with less dollars spent up

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to this point in its college football college athletics foray here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't think of another institution off the top

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of my head. Of course, we're close here, you know,

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we've got that proximity bias, but so yeah, I mean

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it is commendable what they've done. They've touched a butt

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punched above their weight class for a long time. You know,

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you look at the measurables. I guess you would look

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at the Director's Cuplirfield Sports Director's Cup. I think it's

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what they call it, where Byus finished in relation to

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other power for schools, and even when they weren't power

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for how high they would finish. There are other measurables

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as well. But yeah, I can't think of another one.

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In basketball, I would. I always think of Saint Mary's.

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I always kind of wonder if you've ever been to

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Maraga and just seen their facility and that's developed into

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a national basketball program. I'm in the top twenty five

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often and contending for conference championships, and what they've done

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has certainly been commendable too. But on a whole scale,

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total athletics department, I would say BYU's probably better than

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most and maybe right near the top. It's not the

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top as far as getting the most bang out of

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their buck.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you there. It's kind of been

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my feeling and assessment. So with that being said, Look,

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I had a conversation with my dad about this, Like

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the perception is, and I don't know if you have

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to deal with this, the perception is that BYU and

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the Church are funding the Boa Athletic Department. Like, and

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I'm like, you know, when they see the new deal, right,

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the new deal of Kilani and the REV share from

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TV money and nil, you know, ten to fifty million,

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nil then REV share and Kilanie's making nine and a

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half million, they all think that the Church of the

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Descritional Letter Saints are funding this. Do you have those

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questions still to this day, even though you've probably tried

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to clear them up in articles?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. It's just it's just always out there.

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You know, the LDS Church is wealthy and all that,

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and they don't People just don't understand that the athletic

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department is is self you know, what's the word, yeah,

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self sustaining exactly. So yeah, I get that once in

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a while, probably from out of other beat writers that

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I rubbed shoulders with as I'm out on the road

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traveling and talking to them or about BYU, or when

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I do the behind behind the enemy lines type stuff

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with with people. Uh yeah, that's a common misconception that

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I always try to clear up. But it does spring

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up now and then quite often. It's pretty amazing. And uh,

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you know, I know that b YU has made a

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push publicly Kevin Shane Reeves and and Keith FOURTEENK and

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others of trying to dispel that, and even Clark Gilbert

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a lot on social media, but that that certainly that

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perception still does exist. That's there's no question about it.

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Speaker 1: Jay Drew des red News, Jay, what else you got

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cooking for? What else you're gonna be publishing here? Surely

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at the Dezerdnews dot com.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of working on a regular season wrap

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up piece of football, just kind of naming my you know,

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MVP offensive defense of just kind of a what we

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call a water cooler story where you know, just throw

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out my ideas from who I think had great seasons,

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who overperformed all that, and then let people kind of

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weigh in on who they think we're the you know,

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like Offensive Player of the Year for BYU and stuff

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like that. Just kind of a regular season wrap up

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as we kind of have this low between now and

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the Bowl game.

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Speaker 1: J Drew, Ladies and gentlemen, make your funnel on x

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and reading all his content at the des Red News

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Dezradnews dot com. Thanks so much, Jay, appreciate your time today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 1: I'm always appreciated. Yep, always appreciate our time together. Jdrew

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of the des Red News. Guys, the season to be giving.

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Jay expressed his gratitude. Uh as he hopped onto our show.

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We got to express our gratitude to those that are

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in most need, an attitude of gratitude during the holiday season.

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That's what it's all about. Uh tis the season to

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former BAU wide receiver, to discuss what's cooking with the Cougars.

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