1 00:00:03,319 --> 00:00:05,879 Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. It's Wednesday. It is time for 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,519 Total Bases Tokyo. Brandon will be back tomorrow, but today 3 00:00:09,519 --> 00:00:12,480 you've got myself, Brian Leonard, and we're gonna be talking 4 00:00:12,519 --> 00:00:17,239 Game three of the ALCS Jays Mariners. Brian, just I 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:18,760 want to throw this to you because this is very 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,199 interesting to me, and I didn't think we would be 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,559 in this predicament right now going into the respective game threes. 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,399 We did not have a home team win a game 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,239 in the first two the first two. So the home 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,280 teams right now in the LCS round are zero to four. 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,759 You don't see that very often? Is that making it 12 00:00:39,799 --> 00:00:42,000 as challenging for you as it is for me to 13 00:00:42,079 --> 00:00:44,359 come up with? Like where these series are going to 14 00:00:44,439 --> 00:00:44,920 go from here? 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's strange. Ralph Michaels was nice enough to send 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,240 something over in the slack. He's got some numbers. It's 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,479 smallest ample sizes. But the home teams in game three 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:59,240 after sweeping on the road have been pretty good, so 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,280 we could see more of you know, the teams that 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,959 are head winning. And if a team gets up three 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:11,159 to nothing, I usually expect the team with the team 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,400 that loses, especially in the NBA I use a lot 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,879 of it where they don't have the heart and they 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,560 don't want to have to go and play another game again. 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,000 It kind of knocks them out. So this is a 26 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:22,599 key game for both of these team both these series. 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,640 Is yeah, I thought, you know this Milwaukee team. I 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,359 like the way they're set up, But the Dodgers just 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:35,319 show you how starting pitching is so important that you 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,159 can have guys. I mean the bullpen. The Dodgers have 31 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,439 struggled with their bullpen all year long, and in these 32 00:01:42,439 --> 00:01:45,040 series lately, the Dodgers don't even need the bullpen. They 33 00:01:45,079 --> 00:01:49,319 got these starters going all game and it's uh, I 34 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,239 hate to say it, but the coach has done some 35 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:55,640 good jobs keeping them starters in there for the Dodgers, 36 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,599 and I'm not a big fan of his. And you 37 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,519 know in the other series too, Seattle's If you ask 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,359 anybody who the best pitching staff is when they're healthy 39 00:02:03,359 --> 00:02:06,680 in the America League, that's Seattle. So if you're a 40 00:02:06,719 --> 00:02:09,560 big starting pitcher fan, these are the two teams you 41 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,159 probably expected to be up to nothing at this point. 42 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,639 I do want to point out for the park factors, 43 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,759 the home runs today are supposed to be down ten 44 00:02:19,039 --> 00:02:22,840 from a normal T Mobile Park game, doubles and cripples 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,759 down eight, singles down one, and runs down seven. So 46 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:30,680 it's going to be tough to score some runs in 47 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:34,800 this game. If if you're looking for the over, we've 48 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,759 got Bieber going against Kirby here, and I'll just get 49 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,039 into my analysis on the game and we'll let you 50 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,400 pick it up from there. But Kirby's about a maybe 51 00:02:44,439 --> 00:02:47,159 about a one twenty five favorite here with a total 52 00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:51,520 of seven. Slightly to the over, at least from what 53 00:02:51,599 --> 00:02:53,879 I remember. Seattle's hit much better on the road than 54 00:02:53,879 --> 00:02:57,960 they head at home. Toronto hits pretty well and it 55 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,879 done pretty well on the road. But the key in 56 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,120 this game to me is the starting pitching. Shane Bieber. 57 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:07,879 Loved the guy. He was great for Cleveland. Just terrific guy. 58 00:03:07,879 --> 00:03:10,360 He's only thirty thirty years old and he's had a 59 00:03:10,479 --> 00:03:15,319 terrific career already in eight seasons. But you know, if 60 00:03:15,319 --> 00:03:17,080 you take a look at just his numbers, the three 61 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,719 point five to seventy ARRA one point zero two whip, 62 00:03:20,199 --> 00:03:22,400 you would think all of this is the same old Bieber, 63 00:03:22,479 --> 00:03:25,319 But he is expected Ray four point five to seven. 64 00:03:26,159 --> 00:03:28,919 And although He's only thrown forty in a third pit 65 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,919 innings on the season, so not enough for a lot 66 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,840 of the stackcast numbers to you know, verify it a 67 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,719 little bit. Basketball velocity twenty thirty percentile ARAA. Jackson velosity 68 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,840 has been bad. Verrel rate's been bad, heart hit rates 69 00:03:43,919 --> 00:03:47,680 been bad. Throws five pitches the most is this four 70 00:03:47,719 --> 00:03:51,199 seamer thirty six percent, but the normal already throws at 71 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,680 ninety five miles an hour. His is ninety two point six. 72 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,120 So I hope for Toronto's sake, and I hope for 73 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:02,560 Bieber said that he will be better with the offseason 74 00:04:02,599 --> 00:04:04,879 and be back stronger next year, but right now he's 75 00:04:04,919 --> 00:04:08,039 not a guy I feel confident on throwing out there 76 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,840 and putting my money on in the game that they 77 00:04:10,039 --> 00:04:12,159 need to win. I talked about that they can't go 78 00:04:12,199 --> 00:04:15,199 down on three. Not too many teams come back from 79 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:17,839 that unless the Red Socks against the Yankees, I believe 80 00:04:17,879 --> 00:04:20,879 a few years ago. But George Kirby, another guy that's 81 00:04:20,879 --> 00:04:22,720 had some injuries this year, only threw one hundred and 82 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,480 twenty six innings after one hundred and ninety one basically 83 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,759 each of the last two years. His he ARA is 84 00:04:27,759 --> 00:04:30,399 a little high at four point two to one, expected 85 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,279 three point eighty five, whip one point one point nine. 86 00:04:33,319 --> 00:04:36,680 All those numbers are more higher than they've been in 87 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,839 the last few years. But he was came back from 88 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,639 injury and they brought him back early, struggled early, but 89 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:45,279 he's pitching pretty well right now. Still his average hecxi 90 00:04:45,319 --> 00:04:48,199 velossiti in the fourteenth percent, title harder rate, hard hit 91 00:04:48,319 --> 00:04:51,519 rate twenty first, and barrel forty seventh mean that he 92 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,040 can be hit. But I think he's pitching a lot 93 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,600 better now than he has in the past. He's excellent, 94 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,160 walks eighty nine percent, title fast, blah blah through six pitches. 95 00:05:02,959 --> 00:05:06,600 If I take a look at this game, I don't 96 00:05:06,879 --> 00:05:11,680 want to play the under because I'm a little worried 97 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,519 about Baber and you're getting a seven, and there's not 98 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,959 too many games that Toronto has played this year with 99 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,560 a seven total. I think Toronto's offense is better than 100 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,519 what they have shown. Seattle's been really good offensively for 101 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,519 a while now. If I play this game, and I 102 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:31,720 did set out yesterday, I didn't have anything. I said that. 103 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,120 I just didn't get enough on Milwaukee. I thought it 104 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,920 was we talked about or La being the best team 105 00:05:39,959 --> 00:05:41,600 in baseball. I just think you're quite good enough. 106 00:05:41,959 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: Now. 107 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: I was kind of worried about the starting pitcher for Milwaukee, 108 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:47,199 and that's the way I feel about Toronto today. So 109 00:05:47,519 --> 00:05:49,519 if I play this one, I'm gonna play the over. 110 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think that's the same way 111 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,879 I would look here. I wish I sat out yesterday. 112 00:05:57,319 --> 00:06:00,240 I talked myself into the Brewers that I Just before 113 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,879 I get into my breakdown of this game, I want 114 00:06:01,959 --> 00:06:05,720 to comment on a couple of things. So one, going 115 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,879 back to your point yesterday's game, part of my part 116 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,399 of my angle, part of my handicap was you know, 117 00:06:11,439 --> 00:06:14,120 if the Brewers can get to the late innings sort 118 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,600 of tied or in the lead, that that that I 119 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:18,959 think their edges against the Dodgers bullpen. We never saw 120 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,800 the Dodgers bullpen, which was surprising to me. Listen, it 121 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,639 was a dream start for the Brewers. You had a 122 00:06:25,759 --> 00:06:28,240 clean top of the first you come out, the first 123 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,759 batter goes Yard. I'm sitting here thinking, oh, this is 124 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,240 this is great. This is exactly how I wanted this 125 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,199 game to start. And Yamamoto Cruiz is the rest of 126 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,839 the game. Complete game, so really just the only the 127 00:06:39,959 --> 00:06:43,040 only takeaway there for me is is kind of where 128 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,879 you were at. Dodgers look really good, and I think 129 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,839 if there was a team that's going to get back 130 00:06:47,879 --> 00:06:50,800 into the series, it's it's more likely this one if 131 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,560 there was a way to you know, Brewers might be 132 00:06:53,639 --> 00:06:55,279 up against it going on the road to LA, but 133 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,000 we'll see. I want to the other comment I want 134 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,759 to make before I get into breaking down this game 135 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:05,199 much different than NHL and NBA is baseball series, like 136 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,000 every day is still a is still, in my opinion, 137 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,680 a new day. There's new pitching, there's new there's new 138 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,639 nuance when it comes to pitchers that are available, or 139 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,000 how how a team wants to go from starter to relievers. 140 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,800 It is far more likely in my opinion, that a 141 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,160 baseball series can flip very quickly, as opposed to like 142 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,759 if I'm watching NBA and I'm not an NBA guy 143 00:07:27,839 --> 00:07:29,639 and I'm not an NHL guy, so I don't. I 144 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,040 don't really. I watched them as a casual fan and 145 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,040 like Lebron and whoever are just beating someone's face and 146 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,879 for three straight games, to me, it's like that fourth games, 147 00:07:41,279 --> 00:07:44,079 you know, even if they like, take one off, it's okay. 148 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,920 Maybe it doesn't happen in game four. Game fives usually 149 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,920 go in that way. It's it's probably not gonna be 150 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,279 a series. I would not like baseball. I wouldn't look 151 00:07:53,319 --> 00:07:55,160 at it like that, because again, you have it's a 152 00:07:55,279 --> 00:08:00,279 new day, you have new starting pitchers. If one of 153 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:02,240 these games goes a certain way, then the next day 154 00:08:02,279 --> 00:08:03,920 is a new day as well, and you have new 155 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,600 starting pitchers. And it's like, so I don't think that 156 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,720 either of these teams are done per se. But when 157 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:11,439 I look at the matchup and now we'll go back 158 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,040 into this game, I'm kind of with you. I don't 159 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,040 really want Bieber. That's not like, that's not where I 160 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,399 necessarily want to go here. I played against him in 161 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:25,000 the last round. I didn't think he looked good. So again, 162 00:08:25,279 --> 00:08:30,000 both of these guys have had to work around injuries 163 00:08:30,199 --> 00:08:34,559 in this season. But Bieber was was far more. It 164 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,240 was a far bigger injury. It was a far I 165 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,519 think he he had to essentially, he missed all of 166 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,399 last year, rehabbed the beginning of this year. I know 167 00:08:44,519 --> 00:08:47,919 he was up here in Buffalo for over a month. 168 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,440 It was a very extended rehab and so you know, 169 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,879 like we're he had that like sort of good run. See, 170 00:08:54,919 --> 00:08:56,879 this is where you have to like, really everything's a 171 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,600 case by case basis. Shane Bieber pitched forty and a 172 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,559 third innings in Major League Baseball this season. That's in 173 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,879 the MLB, So you obviously pitched probably more than that 174 00:09:06,039 --> 00:09:08,639 when you count all of his rehab starts together. He 175 00:09:08,759 --> 00:09:12,039 probably had another forty plus in the minors. But he 176 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,639 came into major League Baseball essentially in August when it 177 00:09:16,759 --> 00:09:19,320 was his April right, it was his it was his 178 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,360 April one, it was his opening day. Everyone else is 179 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:25,200 out here dragon because it's it's the dog days. And 180 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,399 he's literally starting his season in August. So I look 181 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,759 at the regular season Bieber one point zero two whip, 182 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,879 A three, five seven ERA. That stretch that he had 183 00:09:35,039 --> 00:09:37,600 was really and that was really good. And I asked myself, 184 00:09:38,159 --> 00:09:41,519 if he had four more months of the season, would 185 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,399 his numbers look like that? And I can pretty confidently 186 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,559 say they probably would not. Like, there's no way if 187 00:09:48,639 --> 00:09:50,960 he had another four months of the regular season this 188 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,519 year that he's got a whip that's that's essentially one 189 00:09:54,639 --> 00:09:57,480 that's so Basically you're saying that his whip's the same 190 00:09:57,799 --> 00:10:01,240 as Yamamoto's whip, right, Like, that's because that's right. Yamamoto 191 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,120 came in a regular season with zero point nine nine. 192 00:10:04,159 --> 00:10:07,399 Biaber's one point zero two very deceiving. I think if 193 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,039 you give Bieber so I'm just going to use the 194 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,720 two pitchers that threw yesterday as a as a baseline, 195 00:10:12,919 --> 00:10:15,159 both through about one hundred and seventy innings this year. 196 00:10:15,399 --> 00:10:17,200 I think if you gave him another one hundred and 197 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,879 thirty innings in the big leagues this year, uh, that's 198 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,399 probably more like one three, one two five, one three 199 00:10:23,519 --> 00:10:26,200 something like that, you're gonna see that era is probably 200 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,360 a little bit over four. That's what I think. That's 201 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:30,480 where I think he's kind of at right now in 202 00:10:30,639 --> 00:10:34,159 terms of like the pitcher he's probably is the rest 203 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,559 of you. Like you said, he's thirty years old. I mean, 204 00:10:36,639 --> 00:10:38,679 he's been around for a while, comes off of a 205 00:10:38,799 --> 00:10:40,679 huge injury. I'm not saying he can't have a big 206 00:10:40,799 --> 00:10:43,279 year at some point, but everything I've seen in terms 207 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,039 of like I watched every one of his starts of 208 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,840 Buffalo watching him really like the closest in the playoffs 209 00:10:49,919 --> 00:10:53,480 so far that that just doesn't inspire a ton of 210 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:55,799 confidence going on the road. Now, you could say a 211 00:10:55,879 --> 00:10:59,039 lot of those things about George Kirby as well, having 212 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,759 to work around, you know, a mid season injury coming back, 213 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,799 his command hasn't been there. To your point, Brian Exit 214 00:11:07,919 --> 00:11:10,360 v low hard hit, I think it's because his command's 215 00:11:10,399 --> 00:11:13,559 not fully there. So it's like when he's missing because 216 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,759 he doesn't. He just doesn't. He just hasn't had the 217 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:19,720 feel that he had, let's say last year when he 218 00:11:19,799 --> 00:11:22,240 threw one hundred last two years twenty twenty three, twenty 219 00:11:22,279 --> 00:11:25,159 twenty four, one hundred and ninety one innings both years 220 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:29,080 essentially whip in the low one like like one point 221 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,320 oh four to one point seven, elite command, top of 222 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:34,159 his game. When you have to come back from an 223 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,759 injury mid season, like sometimes it's sometimes you need an offseason, right, 224 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,600 And so that's kind of how I've looked at Kirby 225 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,320 this year. Now to your point, go back to September fourteenth, 226 00:11:44,799 --> 00:11:49,600 fourteen strikeout game against the Angels. Since then, a six innings, 227 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:55,039 six scoreless, seven strikeouts against the against the Astros, five innings, 228 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,240 ten k's against the Dodgers and then he was pretty 229 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,039 respectable in his two appearances against the Tigers, you had. 230 00:12:01,159 --> 00:12:03,720 Both both were only five innings, so he you know, 231 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:07,480 he didn't work super deep into either. Three ear and runs, 232 00:12:07,759 --> 00:12:11,159 fourteen strikeouts. If I'm gonna pick a side, I think 233 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,240 it's probably gonna have to be Kirby and the Mariners. 234 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:16,120 But I think with you, I think over seven is light. 235 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:19,399 I know we saw some fly balls in that Tiger 236 00:12:19,519 --> 00:12:22,240 series that didn't leave the yard. I wonder if that's 237 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,279 creeping into people's minds where it's like, yeah, Team Mobile 238 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,279 is a tough park to hit the ball out of. 239 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:30,840 I don't think that necessarily means there's gonna be a 240 00:12:30,919 --> 00:12:33,559 shortage of offense here. So Brian, I think I'm with you. 241 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,519 I think we have a little consensus play here for 242 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:38,240 Game three. I like over seven as well. 243 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple things. Number One, when I go back 244 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,120 to talking about teams three and oh or whatever, it 245 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,080 makes more sense that in hockey and in the NBA, 246 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,840 it would be it would be tougher to do because 247 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,600 they're physical sports, especially hockey. I mean, these guys, if 248 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,919 you follow hockey, they're a tough as hell, and uh, 249 00:12:59,039 --> 00:13:02,840 in baseball, it's you know, it's more of a finness sport. 250 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:06,919 And they obviously played twice as many games, So it's 251 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,399 the teams players in the NBA could not play one 252 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,960 hundred and sixty two games in hockey. Obviously not either, 253 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:15,960 so that's something to keep in mind. Also, when we 254 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,759 were talking about the Brewers game, and I hate to 255 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:20,799 keep going back on this, I didn't even give my 256 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:22,919 clients a yes or no if I was having to 257 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,919 play till late because I wanted to see if Smith 258 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,159 was going for the Dodgers, And as soon as I 259 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,960 saw that he was going, I said I was passing. 260 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,679 That's the thing with the Dodgers is not only do 261 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,799 they have a guy that throws out the base runners, 262 00:13:34,799 --> 00:13:37,240 which is what Milwaukee does. That's a big part of 263 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:41,399 Milwaukee's game. They also have starters that are elite starters 264 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,799 going deep. So if you're getting one three hits I 265 00:13:44,879 --> 00:13:47,320 mean Milwaukee, it takes Milwaukee completely out of their game. 266 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:52,000 That's the way to beat Milwaukee is a great pitching 267 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:55,879 and the situation where you've got a catcher and there's 268 00:13:55,919 --> 00:13:57,759 a few of them out there that you just don't 269 00:13:57,799 --> 00:14:02,480 run on, and that that's really why Milwaukee was such 270 00:14:02,519 --> 00:14:05,440 a bad matchup going against the Dodgers. If Milwaukee was 271 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,879 playing another team, I think Milwaukee have a very good 272 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,399 chance to beat them. But the Dodgers were a two 273 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,799 to one favorite going into the series for a reason. Yeah. 274 00:14:14,919 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I again, there wasn't and that's probably why I'm 275 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,720 you know, I'm still kicking myself for yesterday. 276 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:21,919 Speaker 2: There was. 277 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,879 Speaker 1: There wasn't any question to me that the Dodgers were 278 00:14:23,919 --> 00:14:25,679 the best of these four teams. We talked about that 279 00:14:26,559 --> 00:14:29,519 really last series and then prior to Game one, like, 280 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,360 I don't think you would. I think you and I 281 00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:33,960 kind of agreed that that was from a from a 282 00:14:34,039 --> 00:14:36,600 talent standpoint, they were far far superior. I mean, I 283 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,919 literally am willing to say far superior than the three 284 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,919 teams remaining. I thought, I have to say, I thought 285 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,440 the Brewers, even with that talent discrepancy, just the way 286 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,080 that they're built, would have would have made this a 287 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,360 more competitive series. Now, again, don't don't write the Brewers 288 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:56,759 off just because they've lost two games. I mean, that's 289 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,360 that's kind of the beauty of baseball. And we'll we'll 290 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,840 talk about that when Tokyo. Brandon is back tomorrow. And 291 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:03,919 we've got starters and we've got a number on the game. 292 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,480 But like these these series could could totally turn around. 293 00:15:08,919 --> 00:15:13,000 All it takes is one game. However it is it is. 294 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:17,919 It's interesting that we had four home teams or four games, 295 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,000 and the home team did not win a single game, 296 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:22,679 especially in the case of the of the Blue Jays. 297 00:15:22,759 --> 00:15:25,639 That you know, the Brewers were underdogs of both their games, 298 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,039 but the brew the Blue Jay's not winning one of those. 299 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,720 It's gonna really be interesting to see how that plays 300 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:34,440 out tonight. I think I'm with you, though, Brian, I don't. 301 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,600 If I get there with a side, it's probably Seattle. 302 00:15:38,399 --> 00:15:41,759 If let's say the series would split one one, I 303 00:15:41,879 --> 00:15:44,240 think I I think I'd be more inclined maybe to 304 00:15:44,279 --> 00:15:46,320 go with Seattle, even though that might be a flawed 305 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:47,919 that might be flawed thinking. 306 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: I think I agree with you on that. You know, 307 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,799 Mark always uses the fat and happy thing. Well, Seattle's 308 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,200 coming back, you know. I like the way they looked 309 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,200 after the game, and especially when the Big Dumper got 310 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,360 his interview. He goes, hey, he's got the shirt on, 311 00:16:02,519 --> 00:16:04,679 says we haven't done anything yet, that kind of thing. 312 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,480 I like that. But if a team comes back one 313 00:16:08,519 --> 00:16:10,879 in one and they go are at home. I would 314 00:16:10,919 --> 00:16:13,039 give the home advantage a little bit better in that 315 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,120 regard with two and zero. I understand that. 316 00:16:16,279 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I still want to get you guys involved in 317 00:16:19,559 --> 00:16:21,120 the chat. I know it's right now we're getting to 318 00:16:21,159 --> 00:16:23,720 the point in the season where it's one game, the 319 00:16:23,799 --> 00:16:26,320 show is shorter, and I forget that that you get 320 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,840 you know, I still want to sort of chiy. I 321 00:16:27,919 --> 00:16:31,159 want to get the chat involved. David Edgington says Brewers 322 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,639 have no offense. I feel like I'm going to push 323 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,679 back on that a little bit. Do they have no offense? 324 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:38,799 Or did they just face two of the best starting 325 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,519 pitchers in the Major league in the majors that through 326 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:46,000 seventeen innings and essentially of like one run ball, Brian Leonard, 327 00:16:46,039 --> 00:16:46,799 what do you? How do you? 328 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: What do you? Well? The part of the Brewers, the 329 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,600 Brewers aren't going to knock you around with the home 330 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,759 runs like the Seattle will or the Yankees or the Dodgers. 331 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,559 But they run the bases very well. And you can't 332 00:16:59,639 --> 00:17:02,080 run the bases if you don't get on base. And 333 00:17:02,279 --> 00:17:03,919 that's all there is to it. And that's a big 334 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,839 part of Their game is their defense and running and 335 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,440 running the bases, and when do you take that away? 336 00:17:09,799 --> 00:17:12,319 You know, the Dodgers have done it well, and like 337 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,400 I said, that's this is probably the worst matchup for 338 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,839 them if they played a team that didn't have such 339 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:21,240 dominant starting pitching. The Brewers are a great team, There's 340 00:17:21,279 --> 00:17:23,200 no doubt about it. You don't finish the season with 341 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,119 the best record baseball without having some success. 342 00:17:27,519 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: Queen Rocks thirteen forty one says Toronto doesn't strike out much. 343 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:36,480 That is true. That being said, George Kirby's been racking 344 00:17:36,599 --> 00:17:39,160 up the strikeouts. I think that's a very interesting matchup 345 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,279 here because he's been getting a lot of swinging miss lately. 346 00:17:43,039 --> 00:17:46,640 And what he's getting swing and miss, that's like when 347 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,759 I see George Kirby have a ten strikeout game and 348 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:52,599 eight strikeout game, seven strikeouts, I think what we pointed 349 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,039 out the numbers across the two games in the Tigers series, 350 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,160 that tells me he's starting to get back toward the 351 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:03,039 guy that for two straight full years twenty twenty three 352 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,680 twenty twenty four had a had a one whip as 353 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,039 a starter. So like, I guess what I'm looking at 354 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,359 you know, in terms of like upside here, I think 355 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,759 it's far more likely that Kirby throws a gem than 356 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:22,160 it is Bieber. Like if I'm just again just trying 357 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,559 to add some you know, well like And that's why 358 00:18:25,599 --> 00:18:27,359 I think I lean Mariners, because I just think the 359 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,039 upside of Kirby here is far greater, and the and 360 00:18:30,039 --> 00:18:32,279 their bullpen is better. I don't care. Like the Blue 361 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,519 Jays had a five bullpenny alra since Jimmy Garcia went 362 00:18:35,599 --> 00:18:38,880 down on July second, the Yankees couldn't make them pay, 363 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,319 But Brian the the Mariners look like they're capable of 364 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:42,720 doing that. 365 00:18:43,319 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: Well, Since since you like the the over and you 366 00:18:46,759 --> 00:18:48,599 think kriv is going to have a little bit more success, 367 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,759 and you're worried about Bieber, how about maybe Seattle team 368 00:18:51,799 --> 00:18:54,680 total over something else to take a look at. Yeah, 369 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,279 that makes a lot of sense here, because when you 370 00:18:56,319 --> 00:18:58,880 get the total that low, that's something that can be 371 00:18:58,920 --> 00:18:59,680 easily covered. 372 00:19:00,759 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a a lot of sites are It 373 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,119 looks like a lot of sites are gonna give you 374 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,799 three and a half juice is somewhat reasonable. Minus one 375 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,640 twenty I see a minus one twenty five. Obviously, shop 376 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,759 around for that I can't really argue with that that 377 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,279 that I feel like that that's probably like for me, Brian, 378 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,640 I think that might be the I'd probably rather play 379 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,680 the team total over with the Mariners then lay minus 380 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,720 one thirty with the Mariners on the side. So again, 381 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:30,720 these are just a couple of different ways to look 382 00:19:30,759 --> 00:19:33,960 at it, but I think I would try to find 383 00:19:34,079 --> 00:19:38,480 something that with the over. I think I think over 384 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,440 is probably where the value is in this game based 385 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,880 on where it's priced. I think there's there's way too 386 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,000 much stock being put into Tea Mobile Park here. Like, 387 00:19:49,279 --> 00:19:51,480 just because this game is in Seattle and it is 388 00:19:51,559 --> 00:19:53,720 a pitcher friendly park does not mean there's gonna be 389 00:19:53,759 --> 00:19:55,279 no offense in this game. That's kind of how I'm 390 00:19:55,279 --> 00:19:56,039 looking at Game three. 391 00:19:58,799 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: I can see it. 392 00:20:00,519 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: Brian. Do you have a Do you have anything to 393 00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:05,519 promote for today? Do you have anything up yet? 394 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I I did lose my football game yesterday. I 395 00:20:10,519 --> 00:20:14,640 won my hockey game, and I won my hockey pre 396 00:20:14,759 --> 00:20:19,400 play in my passed in baseball, I'm number two over 397 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,279 the last month in Major League Baseball, number two overall 398 00:20:22,519 --> 00:20:27,920 in that profit in UH sports, nder camping overall and 399 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,880 working on I just saw today that they did confirm 400 00:20:32,039 --> 00:20:34,880 that they do are doing that weekend promo that they 401 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,880 had last last week. So I'm excited for that because 402 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,200 we did very well one and two on Sundays. Tiny 403 00:20:40,279 --> 00:20:42,720 plays in the NFL, but I believe we're five on 404 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:45,240 one on Saturday and we've won the Thursday game or 405 00:20:45,279 --> 00:20:48,000 something to that effect. So I'm getting ready to put 406 00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:51,359 up my my college football place for today, and I'm 407 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,480 really excited about the weekend. I'm doing the puck time 408 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,680 today over with Andrew and Carmine. They'll be at a 409 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:04,119 clock here Pacific eleven eastern, so looking forward to that. 410 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,799 But yeah, it's uh, it's been a good run. Unfortunately, 411 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,000 I did lose the you know, the college football player yesterday, 412 00:21:12,079 --> 00:21:15,079 but it was a no show for Western Kentucky and 413 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,160 it was ugly, and that's gonna happen once in a while. 414 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,039 You bet enough, you're gonna get one of those out there. 415 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,559 So unfortunately happened yesterday. But hey, overall did pretty well. 416 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: I have no plays up for today. I don't know 417 00:21:28,319 --> 00:21:31,759 that I will so i'll uh. I have to Jake, 418 00:21:31,839 --> 00:21:33,960 this is a great comment, Jake. You have he goes trigger. 419 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,400 You have to remember in two thousand when the Dusan 420 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,680 Bears are down three and fourth to Game seven, only 421 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,039 to have the Hondai Unicorns pull off the wind to 422 00:21:41,079 --> 00:21:44,359 stop a comeback. Just just two year two thousand, KBO, 423 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,359 I couldn't have told you who was in the league 424 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,240 at that point. However, I'm still very invested in the 425 00:21:49,279 --> 00:21:52,799 kb OH. We now have the semi final series is set, 426 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,279 so no KBO for a couple of days. They will 427 00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:58,680 resume play. I believe on Friday, what's Friday morning for 428 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,880 us uh Sam Sung Hanua, probably see Cody Ponce out 429 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:09,079 there against most likely maybe Ariel Gerrado, a couple of 430 00:22:09,079 --> 00:22:11,359 that former MLB guys going at it in that one. 431 00:22:12,079 --> 00:22:13,920 That should be a great series, and I'll have KBO 432 00:22:14,039 --> 00:22:16,640 plays up. The one thing I will promote since I 433 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,000 don't have any picks to sell right now, is the 434 00:22:19,079 --> 00:22:22,480 fact that we're gonna be doing this show through this show, 435 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,759 meaning this format for college basketball, except it's gonna be 436 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,200 called Full Court Press, another name that I made up 437 00:22:31,279 --> 00:22:34,279 and I think is good, and it's gonna be myself, 438 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,200 Rob Vino and Brian Power. So time slot is going 439 00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:40,720 to be similar. I think we're gonna start I think 440 00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:43,119 we're starting one hour later, so I believe it'll be 441 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,279 ten am live as opposed to nine am live. Just 442 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,440 trying to fit in the programming schedule that Wager Talk has, 443 00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:52,200 so I think they want me to put it in 444 00:22:52,319 --> 00:22:55,240 the ten am time slot, and we'll go five days 445 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,079 a week. And I see, I'm over here looking at 446 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,640 my savat pages, Brian, I see George Kirby from Elon University. 447 00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:06,160 I see Shane Bieber from UC Santa Barbara, and I'm 448 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,039 instantly fired up for college basketball. And so we will Basically, 449 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,880 we should have a nice seamless transition here. For the 450 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,440 most part. We're going to do the Baseball Show right 451 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,599 through the World Series, and then I believe it's November three. 452 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,000 Whenever that first Monday in November is November three, We're 453 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:25,000 hitting the ground running five days a week. College basketball. 454 00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:28,720 It'll be myself, Brian Leonard or Brian Power, Rob Bino, 455 00:23:28,759 --> 00:23:31,240 and who knows, maybe Brian Leonard will jump in if 456 00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:33,240 one of those guys needs a day off at some point. 457 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had a lot of success in college basketball, 458 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,200 but I can't talk college basketball like you guys do. 459 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,279 I can talk baseball at the back of my hand. 460 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,440 I'm on the Hockey show. I've had a lot of 461 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,839 scess in hockey. I can't talk hockey like what that 462 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,279 Canaviian's on the show have been watching their entire lives, 463 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,880 you know. So I don't make many appearances on shows 464 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,680 like that. But yeah, I've had success in it. The 465 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,680 one thing that's really struggled with for me is the 466 00:23:57,799 --> 00:24:02,799 NFL the last couple of years. And who knows, maybe 467 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,000 maybe it's just too hard for me. I don't know. 468 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: Listen, I'll and I'll I'll harp on this it is 469 00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:13,279 I don't and again this will probably you know, this 470 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,160 is I don't understand how you're an expert at like 471 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,319 five different things. It just it just doesn't make sense 472 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,400 hard to do to me. I can't possibly like and 473 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,160 I'll just even even say it, like, I can't possibly 474 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,799 do something else if I'm trying to do if I'm 475 00:24:28,839 --> 00:24:31,640 trying to do baseball at the level that I feel 476 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,960 like it should be done, and then college basketball, I 477 00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:37,480 really can't do anything else. That's why like football, I 478 00:24:37,599 --> 00:24:39,319 kind of I'll dip my like right now, I mean, 479 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,119 I'm hot in the NFL, and I I feel like 480 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,839 the NFL though Brian is like, you know, I don't 481 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:50,880 think anyone is a huge edge on the NFL these days, 482 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,319 but it's like we we we can all kind of 483 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,400 crunch numbers quickly. And so for me, I'm just not 484 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,279 going to ask questions right now. The NFL players are winning, 485 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:02,200 I'm going to keep putting them out. If they're winning. 486 00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:05,640 My tune will change drastically if one or two loses, Like, 487 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,200 I'm just not going to be like firing huge NFL 488 00:25:09,319 --> 00:25:11,720 volume as far as college football is concerned, Like again, 489 00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:13,839 I don't know how you do all these different things. 490 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,359 Like for me, I've only put a like I can 491 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,200 tell you right here, it's right here on my list. 492 00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:23,559 I've put fourteen college football plays out this year, and 493 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,200 really they're coming from the relationships I've made. When I'm 494 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,839 traveling around through college basketball once in a while, I'll 495 00:25:29,839 --> 00:25:32,640 get a little insight and I'm like, yeah, that's worth 496 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,480 a bet, But yeah it is. So I don't blame 497 00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:37,640 you one bit. Like if you're locked into the NHL, 498 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,559 which I think is where you should be because you're 499 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,440 very good at it, and as we talked yesterday, it's 500 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,839 a beatable market. Yeah, like that's where you should be, 501 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,079 so I don't blame you one bit. 502 00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:49,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think in the NFL the way to beat 503 00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:53,480 it anymore is paying special attention to any injuries that 504 00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:57,559 are happening in game and make your judgments on that 505 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,799 and try to get ahead of the injury because there's 506 00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:03,279 many times you know they have Now I know we're 507 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:06,240 extending the show, but they have doctors who have seen 508 00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:08,279 the way the guy's going off the field and grabbing 509 00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:10,559 a certain place and he goes, you know, that's probably this, 510 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,720 and he's going to miss five weeks or whatever. Those 511 00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:15,920 guys will say it before the teams will come out 512 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,799 and say it, and if you're tuned into that kind 513 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:20,119 of thing, you can kind of get ahead of the 514 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,680 line a little bit. In the NFL, I've always been 515 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,960 a numbers guy. Yet if I watch the team play 516 00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:27,240 and I think they're the better team in lines two 517 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,559 and a half, I think it's going to three. I've 518 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:30,200 grabbed the two and a half. One of those kind 519 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,119 of things. It's simple, it's and that hasn't worked as 520 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,039 well for at least for me lately. And now with teasers, 521 00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:40,799 you can't I can't say you can't play a teaser 522 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,759 but when I used to play it, it's a two 523 00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:46,200 point six point or six point two team teasers plus 524 00:26:46,279 --> 00:26:48,519 one hundred, and it went to minus one ten, then 525 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,400 went to minus one twenty. Now they're charging one thirty five. 526 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,599 I'm not going to give my client a one thirty 527 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,519 five teaser. It's just not worth playing anymore. But other 528 00:26:58,599 --> 00:27:02,359 people feel differently, so but yeah, I can't do. 529 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,519 Speaker 1: That before we get off the show, just because we 530 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,599 jokingly uh ragged on Kelly for not liking baseball the 531 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,319 other day, so I gotta give Kelly props before I 532 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,759 get off the show. One of the one of the 533 00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:17,720 best things like it is was I think before I 534 00:27:17,759 --> 00:27:19,839 even started at Wager Talks, you're probably talking like five 535 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,920 six years ago at this point. I think I came in, 536 00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:25,440 I just got on sports Memo and I put a 537 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,519 couple of plays up, and so she's, look, you know, 538 00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:30,920 I think I lost one and it was like Bayern 539 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,960 Munich or something, and she's like, what is this. I 540 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,519 was like, oh, it's a soccer play. I think I 541 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,359 put it was a champions game. She goes, no, She's like, 542 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,119 you don't. You don't bet soccer. She's like, you just 543 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,559 don't you don't like, what do you do? What are 544 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:45,359 you doing? Why are you you know? She's like you 545 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,559 got karm like all it, like what are you like? 546 00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:50,119 Is that what you want to do? And I was like, no, 547 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,200 I guess you're right, and I I killed. I was like, no, 548 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,039 you know what, You're right? Why am I messing around 549 00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:57,920 with that? And then I kind of like, you know, 550 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,759 I think I had an NHL play in the playoffs, 551 00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:01,680 and I was like, wait a minute, I I what 552 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,039 what am I doing putting like actual units at risk? 553 00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:07,480 Even if I think I have, like I don't, I 554 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:10,000 don't grind this out twenty four seven, three sixty five. 555 00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:14,039 So like that's made me much better, like in my opinion, 556 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,119 I mean, you know, I I just I think everyone 557 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,240 should do that. I'll say that. I think anyone in 558 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,640 this that's that's doing what we're doing could benefit from 559 00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:24,880 like just being like, you know what, I'm not an 560 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,519 NBA guy, just just accept it. My edge is in. Uh. 561 00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:31,480 Mckinness has done a great job at this. By the way, 562 00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:33,839 shout out to Andrew mckinnis before we get off. I'll 563 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,400 promote his his show. He he's I think he's done 564 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,240 a great job in like like leaning into NHL CFL, 565 00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:45,039 and I know he's having a really good year because 566 00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:46,599 of it, and I know he's got a new show, 567 00:28:46,839 --> 00:28:49,480 and I think he does. You've done his new show, right. 568 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,799 Speaker 2: I have not, but I've watched it, and it's a 569 00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:54,839 little tough. It's it's like yesterday and he was late 570 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,920 because Montreal wants to overtime. And it's it's hard to 571 00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:03,079 talk about the lines because last night, you know, I'm 572 00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:04,640 on the show today, I had to send them over 573 00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:06,440 what came I was going to talk about last night, 574 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:08,839 And there's only a couple of places the headline, so 575 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,440 I really didn't know where the value was. So that 576 00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:15,400 makes a little tough. But Andrew and Carmine and even Press, 577 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,519 and I get Press a lot of shit, but he's 578 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,440 he knows hockey much better than I do. But I 579 00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:24,000 know how to handic it. And that's what's cut me ahead. 580 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,160 It's you know, I'm not It's not that I'm a 581 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,880 fan of these sports, although I kind of am, but 582 00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:32,920 I don't need to watch every game. I have other 583 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:36,160 things I can look at to point me towards some value, 584 00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:39,400 and everything I do, I've got power ratings and if 585 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,880 it's in my Power ratings. There's value. I bet it. 586 00:29:43,799 --> 00:29:46,119 Speaker 1: Jersey Tugging says, this is your only job. Yeah, this 587 00:29:46,319 --> 00:29:49,599 is it, I believe it or not. There's a lot 588 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,240 of prep that goes into even coming on for for 589 00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:55,480 thirty minutes or doing it like doing an hour college 590 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,599 basketball show. I got to like, I got a call 591 00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:01,200 coming up with Robbie, you know, Brian Power, who are like, 592 00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:04,279 this is a lot of a lot of work right here, 593 00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:07,759 and I'm just like that is get buckle up three 594 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,599 hundred and sixty four Division one college college teams and 595 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,160 the chat's gonna be asking questions about Sam Houston State. 596 00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:19,559 Someone better have something to say, so, you know. But anyway, 597 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,319 we you know, just hanging out with you for a 598 00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:25,480 little bit. Today we only had one game. Tomorrow we 599 00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:28,920 will have the star of the show will be back 600 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,319 Tokyo Brandon. He's back tomorrow to talk Dodgers Brewers Game three. 601 00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:36,839 Another great example of just like sticking to what he 602 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,960 knows and crushing it. I mean, he might be the 603 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,799 best example of anyone. He's constantly at the top, and 604 00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:45,599 it's because he's hammering away at markets that he just 605 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,920 knows better than the books. So shout out to TV 606 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:51,720 and we'll be back in the morning. More total basis, 607 00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:54,480 Nannie and Eastern. Good luck. If you decide to get 608 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,519 involved with the game tonight, obviously check out our pages, 609 00:30:57,599 --> 00:30:59,880 check out the free picks page at wager Talk, and 610 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,160 if you have an extra second or two heading over 611 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,720 to the replay, drop us a comment, maybe a like, 612 00:31:04,759 --> 00:31:07,920 and a subscribe. We want to finish strong this year, 613 00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:10,400 so who knows, maybe we'll come back next year and 614 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,759 they'll give us graphics like Brian Powers got those great graphics. Yeah, 615 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,519 or a producer or something like that. But yeah, we 616 00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:20,720 appreciate you guys tuning in right till the end. I 617 00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:23,519 know it's football season, but we had about six hundred 618 00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:25,799 on the live here. We appreciate you guys, and we 619 00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:27,559 will see you guys in the morning.