WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:11.119 Today, we're discussing part two of the Sesher murders. If 2 00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:12.960 you haven't listened to part one, feel free to go 3 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:15.800 check it out because we're about to deep dive into 4 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:18.559 what happened in the aftermath of it all. 5 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:23.600 My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked and. 6 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:28.239 Grim, a true crime podcast. 7 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:30.000 The following podcast. 8 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:34.759 Material intended for matial audience. 9 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:37.759 Listener discretion is advised. 10 00:00:56.719 --> 00:00:58.359 It might show up on the microphone. I don't know 11 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:00.439 if you guys are gonna hear it, but there is 12 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:03.759 a thunderous storm rolling overhead right now. 13 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:08.799 Yeah. BC is getting some interesting weather and disasters going 14 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:09.640 on right now. 15 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:11.400 No kidding. I mean, we got a bunch of wildfires. 16 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:12.560 That's that's typical. 17 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:14.519 But it's they're just like starting. 18 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:17.280 I feel like it is. It's just getting going. But 19 00:01:17.319 --> 00:01:19.680 then there was a tornado warning. 20 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:21.879 For Central BC, wasn't it? I think? 21 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:26.959 Yeah, which is super rare rarity with the topographical landscape 22 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:29.120 we have at the boreal forest, It's like, yeah, that 23 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:31.480 just doesn't happen, but apparently it does. 24 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:34.519 So yeah, but I don't know if it's actually happened. 25 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:37.200 I don't know, I do care. I do remember once 26 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:40.319 being at a lake nest lake as a kid and 27 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:43.239 like seeing a tornado like almost touchdown on the lake 28 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:44.040 because it got so. 29 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:47.599 Windy and wild And was it actually like decently sized? 30 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:51.959 Oh yeah, oh okay, No, this was like it was insane. 31 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:53.959 Because you can see those some you see them sometimes 32 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:56.079 in like parking lots, right, like a little something. Oh yeah, 33 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:58.079 it's going, but it's not like very large. No. 34 00:01:58.000 --> 00:01:59.799 No, this this was like, I don't know, like this 35 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:01.760 of like a small house. 36 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:02.840 Holy shit. 37 00:02:03.120 --> 00:02:04.959 Yeah, it was like the water on the top of 38 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:07.640 the lake was starting to like spin and like go up, 39 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:09.759 and it went up probably like like twenty thirty feet 40 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:12.319 a bit, and then it just kind of fizzled out. 41 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:14.159 But it was like, oh god. 42 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:18.039 Well, weren't they saying the tornado could get worse or 43 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:20.400 be worse because of the fires or something too? 44 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:22.960 I think so because of the temperature of the fire. Yeah, 45 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:26.080 air mixing, and yeah, it's a wild freaking thing. I 46 00:02:26.080 --> 00:02:28.319 don't understand it. But hopefully everyone out there is safe 47 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:29.919 wherever you are, whether you're BC or not. 48 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:33.439 Yeah, honestly, a thunderstorm in the background of this might 49 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:36.400 be slightly fitting, right, It might be. 50 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:41.599 It might be in the thunder Rolls. We also want 51 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:43.159 to give a little bit of an announcement that we 52 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:46.240 have officially sold half of our tickets for our live 53 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:48.840 show coming up the end of the month. So if 54 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:50.840 you want to check out the tickets, you can go 55 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:53.159 ahead and check out our socials. There's some links for them. 56 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:56.439 We're doing a live show for our two hundredth episode. 57 00:02:57.560 --> 00:02:59.680 The tickets are of course for showing up in person. 58 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:02.960 We're going to be at Trench Brewing. If you aren't 59 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:06.199 local to us, you can check out the live stream 60 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:07.919 over in a Patreon so you can join us on 61 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:10.120 Patreon and subscribe there and you get access to that 62 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:10.599 live stream. 63 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:12.120 Yeah, it's going to be a fun night. The fact 64 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:14.639 that we're sold out or half sold out is pretty awesome. 65 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:17.879 It is. I'm pretty stoked and we I mean, the 66 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:20.639 last week is generally for events like this when tickets 67 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:23.879 really sell. So I have a feeling it's going to 68 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:24.639 be a packed hose. 69 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:27.439 Yeah, I know, Oh my goodness, because we've done some 70 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:31.639 live events before and I think like max thirty people yes, right, 71 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:33.680 and this is about eighty or. 72 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:35.159 So maximum capacity. 73 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:38.560 Yes, yeah, So that's like it's gonna be good. 74 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:40.439 It's gonna be a bit more good. But we also 75 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:42.479 have some door prizes, like we got an order from 76 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:44.759 some of our merch coming in. We got some socks, 77 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:47.560 we got to throw blankets, we got some mugs, mugs 78 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:50.479 exclusive artisan mugs by the way, which is batch too, 79 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.199 from the mugs that were available for a short period 80 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:55.400 of time. But now they're just like the remainder is 81 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:56.639 only for giveaway. 82 00:03:56.280 --> 00:04:02.800 Stuff exclusive artists in candles, Yes, made by yours truly. 83 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:03.439 There we go. 84 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:05.879 That doesn't have a logo yet because I haven't gotten 85 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:08.039 that far. But I've made some damn candles. 86 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:11.520 Have you made the candles yet, because do you have 87 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:12.159 like a week? 88 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:15.080 Yeah, I have some made, but I might try a 89 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.040 couple more sents. Okay, but I do have some that 90 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:20.399 can be but I might try some more sense just 91 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:21.680 to see what my faves. 92 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:24.240 Are, Okay, gotcha? Yeah, And then there's something else that's 93 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:25.560 going to go along into like a little like a 94 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:28.399 Wicked Box giveaway part of this on the night of 95 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:31.600 it's my favorite thing as any giveaway we've ever done, 96 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:34.800 but it's like also kind of the dumbest thing to 97 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:39.040 ever give away. Is part of the Wicked Tree so 98 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:41.560 if you look at our logo, that tree is actually 99 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:42.120 a real tree. 100 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:43.120 Yeah, it's really cool. 101 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:45.360 It's a photo that we took on our phone and 102 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:47.720 turn it into a logo. So we actually took some 103 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.759 sticks from those trees and put like certificates of authenticity 104 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:52.720 along with it. So, yeah, that's going to be a 105 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:54.160 little comp. 106 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:56.680 I think that's super cool. We should actually, like we 107 00:04:56.800 --> 00:04:59.000 have a piece of the tree in our house. 108 00:04:59.040 --> 00:04:59.560 We do it's. 109 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:03.480 Like a frame, put it on a frame or something. 110 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:04.759 You know, thats a bad idea. 111 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:05.959 I think that'd be really cool. 112 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:07.000 That would be cool. 113 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:10.319 Yeah, Okay, So this is a part two. 114 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:13.519 Part two, Yes, a part to the murders. So you 115 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:18.680 ready to discuss this to go into what happened and everything? Yeah, 116 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:19.959 do you remember where we left off? 117 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:23.959 Vaguely, but god I know that. I was just like pissed, 118 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:26.160 Like this case is just just a piss off. 119 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:28.399 Oh it gets worse. Trust me, you're going to be 120 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:30.879 pissed with this case one hundred and ten percent, like 121 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:35.120 it's it's absurd. But I will go over where we 122 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:37.560 left off and last episode I'll give you guys a 123 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:40.639 bit of a rundown. So we discussed last the Pettit 124 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:45.240 family and the two individuals individual sorry Hayes and Joshua, 125 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:48.560 who become partners in crime for committing breaking and enters 126 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:51.399 in the homes of you know, like some well off families. 127 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:55.160 Now their newest target was the Petits. Now the two 128 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:58.160 broke in found doctor William Pettitt sleeping downstairs as he 129 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:01.199 fell asleep reading paper or whatever, and they began to 130 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:03.360 beat him over the head with a baseball bat before 131 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:05.439 tying him up with zip ties to a pole in 132 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:10.160 the basement. They then, from there proceeded to find his wife, 133 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:14.319 Jennifer and their two daughters, Hayley, who was seventeen and Mikela, 134 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:17.000 who was eleven. Each one of them had their hands 135 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:20.759 and feet bound and pillowcases placed over their head. Now, 136 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:24.720 after all this, the two intruders proceeded to rifle through 137 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:27.360 and rob the place and discovered that Jennifer had a 138 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:30.439 bank account with a decent amount of money inside. So 139 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:34.040 their new plan was for Joshua to stay with the 140 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:37.800 family and hold them hostage while Hayes accompanied Jennifer to 141 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:39.279 the bank to make a withdrawal. 142 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:41.000 Okay, right, yep. 143 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:44.160 So at approximately nine am on July twenty third, two 144 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:46.480 thousand and seven. The two left the home and made 145 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:48.879 their way to the Bank of America, and that's where 146 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:52.439 we left off. And here we are for part two. 147 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:54.399 Okay, dang, is. 148 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:56.360 That like catching you all up? Oh yeah, and bells 149 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:56.800 and everything? 150 00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:57.600 Yeah, totally? 151 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:00.680 Okay, good? So you ready for it? 152 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:01.879 Oh? 153 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:02.480 Gross? 154 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:04.240 Yeah, I'm sorry. I just cracked my knuckles. 155 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:07.040 Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they heard that. If they did, 156 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:08.160 I'm not into. 157 00:07:07.879 --> 00:07:10.759 That, Like I do it all the time, though, I know. 158 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:13.439 It's just if I ever cracked my neck knuckles, it's 159 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:15.800 a mistake, Like I did it in the air. 160 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:17.839 I do it all the time. 161 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:19.160 I know a lot of people do it. 162 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:20.839 I don't even notice when I do it. I just like, 163 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:22.199 I don't know, I just do it. It's like a 164 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:23.399 nervous twitch or something like this. 165 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:25.240 I just feel like it can't be good for you. 166 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:26.759 But I don't know. I don't know. 167 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:29.000 I don't know. I'm no doctor. I am a true 168 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:32.680 Crown podcast host, and I will tell you about this episode. 169 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:35.040 I have been wait in a while. Let's do it. 170 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:37.839 Okay. So Hayes, the one who was driving the car 171 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:41.160 and bringing Jennifer to the bank, pulled up the car outside, 172 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:45.959 and they made an interesting choice. Jennifer Pettitt was allowed 173 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:50.240 to go inside to the bank, so low alone to 174 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:54.360 make the withdrawal. Now, apparently between Hayes and Joshua they 175 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:56.240 talked about it a little bit and figured out that 176 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:58.720 they they thought that if she were to go inside 177 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:03.560 without someone accompanying her and withdrew the money, it would, 178 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:06.360 you know, draw the least amount of suspicion. 179 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:10.079 That just seems like such an interesting plan. 180 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:14.920 Though it is. Yeah, yeah, Now, since they had her 181 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:18.120 family held hostage, they assumed that, you know, she would 182 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:20.079 do what they ask, which was to withdraw the money, 183 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:22.879 not telling what was happening, returned the car to Hayes, 184 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:24.720 and then you know, return to the house and you know, 185 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:27.040 we got the money and then so on. So far, 186 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:30.639 I mean it, it is an interesting move. It's a 187 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:33.039 bold move, honestly, like they. 188 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:35.000 Have some confidence to them almost. 189 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:37.200 I don't know if it's confidence more than arrogance. 190 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:40.080 Yeah, maybe, Hey, I think. 191 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:47.720 It's arrogance, arrogance or ignorance, stupidity, Yeah, all of the above, maybe, regardless, 192 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:50.720 it was regardless of the reason it was a bold move, 193 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:52.320 let me just say that it was a bold move. 194 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:57.480 And I mean she would draw the least amount of suspicion. 195 00:08:57.639 --> 00:09:00.720 They're right, but that's assuming that Jennifer does not tell 196 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.399 anyone at the bank about the situation. Now, I mean, 197 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:06.639 she doesn't have anyone like right beside her, so. 198 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:12.080 Of course she yea yeah, yeah, because her family, her 199 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:14.320 loved ones are literally in danger at home. 200 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:18.440 Exactly, so why would she not tell anyone? Yeah, So, 201 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:21.639 upon entering the bank, Jennifer approached the teller and kept 202 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:23.679 as calm as she possibly could, and she didn't want 203 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:25.600 to make any sort of scene that would give her 204 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:28.360 away to Hayes, who was waiting outside in the vehicle watching. 205 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:32.240 I'm sure exactly now, the bank surveillance camera captured Jennifer's 206 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:36.120 every move the moment she stepped foot inside, Though keeping 207 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:38.919 herself as calm as she could, the footage showed Jennifer 208 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:43.120 clearly anxious as she approached the teller. Now right away, 209 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:45.480 Jennifer began to explain to the teller of the situation, 210 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:49.480 and the bank manager, Mary Lyons, who was quickly called over, 211 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:53.440 understood the gravity of the situation. So she's all, like, 212 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:55.919 you know what, you know, I got some issues at home. 213 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:58.639 These people are holding my family and they need to 214 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:00.759 withdraw money. I don't want to call a scene like 215 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:04.519 all this sort of stuff. And thankfully Mary understood, and 216 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:07.120 she complied with the withdraw request and gave Jennifer a 217 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:11.000 total of fifteen thousand dollars cash. As things with the 218 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:14.679 transaction were being completed, Mary went back to her office 219 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:19.799 and immediately dialed nine one one. Okay, good, okay, And 220 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:22.440 I have that nine one one call here. Oh it's 221 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:25.159 almost five minutes long, so bear with me, but trust me, 222 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:27.320 it is worth listening to it all. Here we go 223 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:29.000 measure emergency. 224 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:31.879 My name is Mary lyons On, the banking center manager 225 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:34.799 at Bank of America at one eighty five Highland Avenue. 226 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:37.960 There is no robbery here, but we have a lady 227 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:41.600 who is in our bank right now who says that 228 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:45.639 her husband and children are being held at their house. 229 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:49.320 The people are in a car outside the bank. She 230 00:10:49.399 --> 00:10:52.720 is getting fifteen thousand dollars to bring out to them 231 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:55.240 that if the police are told, they will kill her 232 00:10:55.600 --> 00:11:01.200 children and the husband. Her name is Jennifer Pettit P 233 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:06.399 E T I T. She lives at three hundred Sorghum 234 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:10.679 Hill Road. She says they are being very nice, and 235 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:17.519 they have their faces covered. She is pectrified. I didn't 236 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:19.879 she wasn't going to call the police, but I came 237 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:20.960 in my office and I did. 238 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:23.039 Okay, she still is in the bank. 239 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:26.759 Yes she is, Okay, her husband and face and I 240 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:31.759 look at Yes, they're they're tied up. She said she's 241 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:34.240 taking fifteen thousand dollars out of a credit line. They 242 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:37.039 told us they wouldn't hurt anybody if she got back. 243 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.480 There was the money. She believes them. She's I think 244 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:43.519 she's walking out now, she's walking out. Now, I don't. 245 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:45.519 I will watch and see what kind of car she 246 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:47.399 gets into. I'm in my office with the store with 247 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:51.960 the lights off, and I'll try and see her. But 248 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:53.919 I don't want to make anything work obvious. I don't 249 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:55.440 want to, Okay. 250 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:59.440 Jennifer Pettitt, three hundred Road. Yeah, she's being held for 251 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:02.200 her her husband. 252 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:05.399 Yes, Yes, she said they're tied up. 253 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:08.039 She said, did she say anything about weapons anything that 254 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:08.759 she didn't? 255 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:11.159 She said, well, she said no, I don't know. She 256 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:14.799 said they've been very nice and she knows they'll loom 257 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:17.799 after they get the money. I'm trying to look and 258 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:19.600 see where she's gone. She went out and said, but 259 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:22.279 I don't. Oh wait, I see her walking. Now, she's walking. 260 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:25.039 She's walking there there, she's getting. 261 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:25.320 In a car. 262 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:28.240 It looks like it's like a gray suv. 263 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:29.159 They pulled up. 264 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:30.240 Now they're pulling out. 265 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:31.879 Hers. 266 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:34.559 No, somebody else is driving. Okay, they said, she said 267 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:35.320 they drove her here. 268 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:38.159 Okay, the captors drove her to the bank. 269 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:41.159 Yes, yes, they're driving. They're not coming out through the 270 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:45.759 through the suppose. So they must be going out by 271 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:49.000 this food Chi's restaurant over the seventy. That's where they 272 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:56.480 must be going out. Now, he did vehicles. I didn't. 273 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:57.200 They just pulled away. 274 00:12:57.399 --> 00:12:58.879 They must have been waiting for over and then they 275 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:00.399 just pulled up and she just got it into it. 276 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.360 Okay, I need to stand on the line for me. Okay, okay, 277 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:08.840 Bagmancher got. 278 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:12.279 The police on the phone. Did you get the license plate? 279 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:24.000 They asked me, Oh, sir, okay, I want to tell 280 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:24.159 you what. 281 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:33.559 How do unar? It was a christ of PACIFICA PACIFICA. 282 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:33.919 Yeah. 283 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:36.080 And my coller walked in here with me and said, 284 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:38.559 you know, and I agree, it's amazing how calm she 285 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:42.960 was so but but then again, she could have been petrified. 286 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:50.879 I don't know. Okay, p E T I T yep, okay, okay, 287 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:51.759 then put your back on hold. 288 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:55.480 I'm what if, she continued, does. 289 00:13:55.320 --> 00:14:00.279 That uph. 290 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:04.519 Oh, I'm holding, yes, man, did you have h I 291 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:06.399 want to tell you Mike. Teller said that she saw 292 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:09.919 the driver. He had a black hood over, a hoodie 293 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:12.799 and a baseball cap on. She couldn't identify him, but 294 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:15.919 she did see that he there was someone in the 295 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:18.000 car and he did have a sweatshirt over ted and 296 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:18.799 a baseball cap. 297 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:21.440 Blackfooted sweatshirt and a baseball cap. 298 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:25.120 Baseball cap, white male, black male? 299 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:26.519 Could you tell it was a white male or a 300 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:30.840 black male Christians m Yeah, she seems white, but she 301 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:34.039 can't it was She said it was definitely not black, 302 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:35.120 but he was the driver. 303 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:38.759 He was the driver. Yes, did anyone get the license? 304 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:39.399 No, we didn't. 305 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:43.879 Okay, sorry, I'm gonna give you a hold. We're gonna 306 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:44.320 look a messer. 307 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:48.519 Okay boo. 308 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:54.799 Boo'. 309 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:58.000 Yes, that was sort of mill drive. Correct, That's that's 310 00:14:58.000 --> 00:14:59.159 the address he had on the system. 311 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:02.720 Yet, we're going to have a detective on the way 312 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:03.399 to the bank of speak. 313 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:03.799 You are right. 314 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:08.480 So, after receiving the nine to one to one call, 315 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:11.720 from the bank manager, who was incredible on that call, 316 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:14.320 by the way, super calm, collecting as much information as 317 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:18.279 they could, so phenomenal to them. The police quickly responded 318 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:21.879 by setting up a perimeter outside of the Pettit home. 319 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:25.159 Now they ensured that they kept their distance. They used 320 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:28.759 unmarked cars, blended in the surrounding in the neighborhood as 321 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:33.120 not to arouse any suspicion from Joshua or Hayes. I mean, 322 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:37.159 they did have a hostage situation going. They specifically told 323 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:40.840 Jennifer not to contact the police, but we now have 324 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:43.480 them contacted, so they're trying to make sure that that 325 00:15:45.080 --> 00:15:48.080 they didn't let them know that the police knew what 326 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:48.759 they were trying to do. 327 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:49.639 Yeah, exactly. 328 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:52.679 From there, they waited for a tactical team to arrive 329 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:56.000 before making any immediate entry into the home. Now, this 330 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:59.960 call made by the authorities has been very controversial, very controversial. 331 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:00.159 One. 332 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:03.639 There were hostages inside and people's lives were at risk, 333 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:08.440 Yet they stayed outside, did very little outside outside other 334 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:10.879 than secure the perimeter, and some people are a bit 335 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:15.399 angry about that. However, if they advanced it could have 336 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:17.240 put them at risk as well. Yeah, so it's a 337 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:19.399 difficult call that the authorities made. 338 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:22.360 It is and I think often in like hostage cases, 339 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:26.320 they do sort of, you know, stand back a little bit, right, 340 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:28.919 because they do. Yeah, it's a very difficult decision. I 341 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:30.440 can only imagine what do you do? 342 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:34.000 Yeah, So, I mean they hesitated to engage directly because 343 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:37.960 they were concerned about the safety. They needed to coordinate 344 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:41.799 the approach, They needed to figure out what the situation was. Otherwise, 345 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:44.559 being too hasty could actually escalate and get someone hurt. 346 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.840 So they chose to sit back. And that's kind of 347 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:52.039 the situation. So Hayes managed to get back to the 348 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:55.279 home before the perimeter was set up. The perimeter is 349 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:57.399 now set up. Joshua Hayes and the family is all 350 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:02.080 inside with authorities surrounding the house in a casual manner. 351 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:03.440 It's not really noticeable. 352 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:05.519 Well the whole thing too, I have to be like 353 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:08.680 even the nine one one call, like it all just 354 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:13.440 seemed so calm, like chill, oh it was. I just 355 00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:15.640 feel like if I was that bang manager, I'd be 356 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:18.440 losing my shit. Well and even still like so good, 357 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:20.720 like I'm meaning that in a good sense, like good 358 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:21.160 on her own. 359 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:24.960 Yeah, and Jennifer seemed very cool. Yeah, Like the bank 360 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:27.279 manager was all like she could have been petrified. I 361 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:30.000 don't know, Yeah, seem very calm. 362 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:33.039 Like it's it's amazing what people can do sometimes, right. 363 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:37.279 When when you need to. Yeah, And I mean Joshua 364 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:39.799 and Hayes were actually even described as being quote nice 365 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:43.720 through the ordeal as well. So as far as they know, 366 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:47.279 things inside the house were calm, which gave the police, 367 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:50.400 you know, all the more reason to like relaxed and 368 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:51.039 bide their. 369 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:52.319 Time, right exactly. 370 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:56.480 So what they didn't know though, is what was going on, 371 00:17:56.839 --> 00:17:58.599 is that it was going to change. Things that were 372 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:02.759 going on were going to flip soon. And then this 373 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:06.359 is whether they intervened or not. You see, Hayes, while 374 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:08.759 he was at the bank with Jennifer Pettitt making withdrawal, 375 00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:11.839 Joshua was at the home with doctor Pettitt tied up 376 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:14.440 in the basement and the two daughters, seventeen year old 377 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:18.119 Haley An eleven year old Mike Ella. While alone in 378 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:21.880 the home, Joshua would escalate the encounter. He took the 379 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:25.000 opportunity that he had with the power he held over 380 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:28.759 the girls and began to sexually assault and rape eleven 381 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:32.079 year old Mike Kella and took pictures on his phone 382 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:36.920 in the process for sick and twisted keepsakes. 383 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:38.279 Holy shit. 384 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:41.720 All the while, doctor Pettitt was bound in the basement 385 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:44.359 and was powerless as he heard the screams of his 386 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:45.519 own masters. 387 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:48.400 Oh man, that I don't know why, but that's on. 388 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:51.599 That is unexpected to me. 389 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:56.000 Yeah, and it's completely fucked up on fucked up because 390 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:59.640 he'd go from last episode we discussed their plan was 391 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:03.079 to run and they enter this home and then immediately 392 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:07.119 beat someone with a baseball bat nearly to death. And 393 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:10.680 now we're going and raping a minor. 394 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:14.519 Yeah, what the shit? I don't understand. I feel like 395 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:18.400 something had to have happened to just like I mean, 396 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:20.640 I guess at some point if you changed or you 397 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:25.319 escalate or whatever, right, but this just seems so drastic. 398 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:30.960 Yeah, well, we're going to talk a little bit about when. 399 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:33.839 Well I don't know if i'd say when, but an 400 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:38.039 indication that they were kind of planning this. Anyways, we'll 401 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:41.200