Speaker 1: Oh that's are.
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult
Speaker 2: of Conspiracy, and I am the Cage to Night. I'm
Speaker 2: Raven and I don't know who's we're paying attention to
Speaker 2: the news here lately, but oh my goodness, there is
Speaker 2: some wildness that's going on in good old Minnesota aka
Speaker 2: South Canada. I gotta be honest with you. I didn't
Speaker 2: realize they had such a Somalian influx in that particular state.
Speaker 2: It makes no sense to me.
Speaker 1: Out wow, I had no idea either. And then the
Speaker 1: cult member that came on telling us about him actually
Speaker 1: going into the homes and being with all these people
Speaker 1: and seeing this all firsthand, I definitely didn't know that
Speaker 1: they were all there, to be honest with you, of all.
Speaker 2: Places, right, and I understand why America took in some
Speaker 2: Somalian refugees even back into the early nineteen nineties. If
Speaker 2: anybody has ever seen the movie Black Hawk Down that
Speaker 2: took place there, there was a group of them that
Speaker 2: needed to get out of there because it was a
Speaker 2: horrible situation. I have sympathy for this, and I could
Speaker 2: understand that it was supposed to be temporary. But we'll
Speaker 2: get to that here in a moment. But of all
Speaker 2: the places in America that you would settle, like.
Speaker 1: Somalia's take so cold place, like such a cold place comparison.
Speaker 1: I don't understand it.
Speaker 2: It's a desert. It's a hot ass day desert. Why
Speaker 2: whenever they got to America, were they thinking, bro, we're
Speaker 2: gonna go to the great White North of Minnesota, Like
Speaker 2: of all the like, why wouldn't you go to like
Speaker 2: maybe Arizona or.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Maybe they just I think they
Speaker 1: were honestly put there, like they were through the organization.
Speaker 1: That's where they place them. I'm not one hundred percent certain,
Speaker 1: but I think, like later on we might read about it,
Speaker 1: but I think they might have just put them there instead,
Speaker 1: because I don't think they would just voluntarily be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's go to the super snow.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. Maybe these Somalians actually, as
Speaker 2: soon as they got to, you know, a land with freedom,
Speaker 2: they're just like, dude, screw the desert. It is so
Speaker 2: hot and there's so much sand. We want to go
Speaker 2: where there's eight feet snow blizzards every winter. That sounds
Speaker 2: like a better choice for us. I don't know, and
Speaker 2: I'm not judging. I know we have some good cult
Speaker 2: members that live in good old Minnesota, and you know,
Speaker 2: much love to you all. I being the Louisiana boy,
Speaker 2: would rather die than go to a place with that
Speaker 2: kind of snow drifts. But like I know that some
Speaker 2: people find it charming, and that's fine.
Speaker 1: Like snow, I do you like snow? I don't like
Speaker 1: that much snow Like I like snow for a while
Speaker 1: and then they can take it back.
Speaker 2: How much snow realistically in your neck of the woods
Speaker 2: and Oregan, how many inches slash feed of snow do
Speaker 2: you get on an average year if you had to
Speaker 2: ballpark it.
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know the average because the last I
Speaker 1: would say, the last six years, it has been wild
Speaker 1: times up there, like with snow happening a whole bunch
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, and then no snow happening and it
Speaker 1: being super hot in the mountain melting, you know, global
Speaker 1: warming situation.
Speaker 2: Right totally but okay, so, but it does in fact
Speaker 2: snow every year, like that's without fail. There's gonna be
Speaker 2: snow every winter give or take there there.
Speaker 1: I think it was last year or the year before,
Speaker 1: I forget it. Didn't snow pretty much at all. There
Speaker 1: was like a little bit that happened and then it
Speaker 1: hit all at once and for like a week it snowed,
Speaker 1: but typically it normally snows. Like I used to have
Speaker 1: the app where you'd call every morning. There was like
Speaker 1: a certain number like a you know, six seven and
Speaker 1: something like number that six, but they they would tell
Speaker 1: you the weather app on the mountain if the snow
Speaker 1: is open, which which runs were open, which lifts were open,
Speaker 1: you know, which camps were open, and like how far
Speaker 1: down the snow went and stuff. And I remember calling that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, checking can I go snowboard? And yet? Can
Speaker 1: I go snowboard? Yet? I don't even know if that,
Speaker 1: first of all, if is still running. But it's definitely
Speaker 1: crazy because I thought I would have like a white
Speaker 1: Christmas and it's not been. A vibe really got you.
Speaker 1: I mean, the weather's changing, and I mean it's even
Speaker 1: hotter down here right now than it normally is not tonight,
Speaker 1: because it's supposed to get in the thirties tonight, but it.
Speaker 2: Depends year to year. I remember was it three halloweens
Speaker 2: ago it was damn near freezing. Yeah, like right thirty
Speaker 2: nine degrees, give or take a freezing hole. Meanwhile, you know,
Speaker 2: I've also had halloweens where if you if your costume
Speaker 2: had sleeves, you were screwed. It runs the gambit in Louisiana.
Speaker 2: So I know that we can't be used as a
Speaker 2: litmus test for the rest.
Speaker 1: That Louisiana's crazy think when it comes to weather.
Speaker 2: So, but this being said, it still made no sense
Speaker 2: to me whenever I found out that they all pretty
Speaker 2: much convalesced in Minnesota. I'm not judging. I just it
Speaker 2: didn't make sense. But either way it goes.
Speaker 1: It has to be the program that brought them here.
Speaker 2: We're going to read more about it, for sure. But
Speaker 2: then these people didn't just get here and decide to
Speaker 2: put down roots and set up shop and try to
Speaker 2: you know, put in generational wealth into their community. They
Speaker 2: decided that they also wanted to run for local politics
Speaker 2: and federal politics, which on the onset I don't inherently
Speaker 2: have a problem with. The thing I have a problem
Speaker 2: with is whenever they came in and they decided to
Speaker 2: try to make it more Somali in their legislation and
Speaker 2: in their culture and all these things. And it's like
Speaker 2: my brother. If you it was so great in Somali,
Speaker 2: you'd still be there. You know.
Speaker 1: Animulation is a real thing, Like they're holding true to
Speaker 1: your culture and your roots and sharing that tradition those
Speaker 1: kind of things is very important. Yes, but also when
Speaker 1: you're moving into a country, you don't want to make
Speaker 1: it the country that you just came from. You want
Speaker 1: to still assimilate in some ways and not try to
Speaker 1: shove your culture onto the culture that you're walking into.
Speaker 1: It's a very fine balance. But did you know that
Speaker 1: there is a large population of Smolians in Ohio it's
Speaker 1: the second largest population.
Speaker 2: Again why Like, first of all, again no shade thrown
Speaker 2: to any good Ohio and you know cult members who
Speaker 2: wants to live there. The entire state smells like a
Speaker 2: cowfield because most of these state is in fact a cowfield.
Speaker 2: So like, I know so many people from Ohio and
Speaker 2: that the first opportunity got that got the fuck out
Speaker 2: of there. It's like being from Vermont, Like mt is gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's gorgeous to look at, no sure, but like
Speaker 2: there's no industry, there's no opportunity, there's no real reason
Speaker 2: to try to like raise a family there unless you
Speaker 2: have familiar ties. Most everybody I knew from the Marine
Speaker 2: Corps that were from Vermont had no intentions of ever
Speaker 2: going home again until like Christmas, and that was it.
Speaker 2: And then they're getting a fuck back to a place
Speaker 2: with business. I don't know, but whatever I didn't know.
Speaker 2: Ohio also had such a large population of Somali nationals.
Speaker 1: We I mean, it's like forty thousand May we're between
Speaker 1: thirty to forty thousand.
Speaker 2: That's wild. Again, very different from Somalia.
Speaker 1: It was very different. But they actually had a couple
Speaker 1: of programs that were in place. I can't remember the
Speaker 1: exact name of it. Pretty much one of the main
Speaker 1: programs they've had for the last like three decades or
Speaker 1: two decades at least was this program where they would
Speaker 1: get enrichment here. They would go to school, trade schools,
Speaker 1: learn all this, and then they would go back to
Speaker 1: Somalia to teach there and to actually help build the
Speaker 1: infrastructure there and do all of these things. And it
Speaker 1: was really interesting the program. When I was reading through it, it
Speaker 1: starts with a M. It's like make something I forget, but.
Speaker 2: Make Somalia great again.
Speaker 1: It was good. It was really a good initiative, and
Speaker 1: they tried to bring that back, and there's been a
Speaker 1: lot of people that have actually lived here and then
Speaker 1: gone back to Somalia to make it better and try
Speaker 1: to gain a footing there and try to bring education
Speaker 1: and agriculture and all these different things. The problem is
Speaker 1: is a terrorists and the constant fighting and everything like
Speaker 1: that has pretty much demolished that entire place.
Speaker 2: Again, I don't have a problem with people coming to
Speaker 2: America on work visas or student visas, getting training, getting
Speaker 2: job experience, getting whatever they need, and then bringing that
Speaker 2: knowledge back to their home country to elevate their country
Speaker 2: as a whole. That's wonderful.
Speaker 1: Honestly, it's a pretty cool program.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of Americans that actually have an
Speaker 2: issue with this. They see it as like, well, I
Speaker 2: don't understand.
Speaker 1: To go abroad for programs. One of my girlfriends, her
Speaker 1: kids just got into the Scotland program for about like
Speaker 1: four years. I actually applied for the nursing program for
Speaker 1: Scotland when I was heading out of the Marine Corps.
Speaker 1: That was one of my top places I wanted to go,
Speaker 1: and then life kind of changed and took directions. But
Speaker 1: that's actually where I was going to go to study abroad.
Speaker 1: There's beautiful programs to mix cultures and to learn about
Speaker 1: each other, and I think it's really important for people
Speaker 1: to do that. Sure that being said, when you're coming
Speaker 1: and forcing your religious ideology and your political ideology into
Speaker 1: a country that's already established with their own culture and
Speaker 1: their own ideals, that's not okay. And you don't need
Speaker 1: to be forcing that upon if your country was if
Speaker 1: you like the way your country was being ran, then
Speaker 1: you would go back home to that country. The problem
Speaker 1: is is their country is an absolute chaos, and then
Speaker 1: we have issues the funding that's supposed to be going
Speaker 1: to their country right now to help millions upon millions
Speaker 1: of them that are starving to death, that are dying
Speaker 1: and everything else, it's now being directed towards terrorist groups.
Speaker 1: Oh it's what we came here to talk about today, y'all.
Speaker 2: We have, indeed, we have, indeed we're going to be
Speaker 2: talking about the feed our future charade. And I'm being
Speaker 2: as clean and nice as I can with calling it.
Speaker 2: It is an absolute fraud scandal, top to bottom, honestly.
Speaker 2: But it's not even just that. Come to find out,
Speaker 2: a lot of the federal funding remember USAID and DOGE
Speaker 2: found all of these things where money was just being
Speaker 2: sent to these countries for no reason. America has been
Speaker 2: sending Somalia more funding than the nation's entire GDP four
Speaker 2: years now, and that hasn't even been going to fund
Speaker 2: till well, some of it I'm sure has gone to
Speaker 2: fund terrorist groups. Most of us just been enriching people,
Speaker 2: buying luxury suits, buying nice houses, buying Bentley's. Who the
Speaker 2: fuck is driving a Bentley in Somalia? That's how you
Speaker 2: get got like, that's how you stand.
Speaker 1: Out considering what's been happening with their country for the
Speaker 1: last several years, and how many people are displaced, and
Speaker 1: how much starvation malnourishment. They have the highest mountinnourishment in
Speaker 1: the world right now, they do the children's the amount
Speaker 1: of children is like well exceeding into a million kids,
Speaker 1: and like they're so in. Every one of them is
Speaker 1: max critical on how they list. It's the most acute
Speaker 1: critical status that they could be on. That means that
Speaker 1: they're on the verge of dying, right And yet somehow
Speaker 1: this money that's supposed to be going to these organizations
Speaker 1: are the healthcare one. I looked all into the funding
Speaker 1: for that specific situation that's happening. Their funding has gotten
Speaker 1: cut seventy percent in the last two years because they
Speaker 1: just don't know where the money's going. The money's just disappearing.
Speaker 1: Millions of dollars are being funded in. There's a un
Speaker 1: group that's been trying to go in and bring food.
Speaker 1: They've been hit by pirates so many times they haven't
Speaker 1: been able to actually get the food to the people
Speaker 1: that need it. Yeah, these are your own people, terrorizing
Speaker 1: your own people and stealing from them and harming them
Speaker 1: and displacing them and going in these camps and killing
Speaker 1: them just for the sake of killing them.
Speaker 2: Yep, just blind rage to it. It's terror tactics. You know.
Speaker 1: It's because they want the They want the cities to
Speaker 1: pay taxes on protecting them, is what the terrorist groups
Speaker 1: are doing. So they're funding each other. They're pretty much
Speaker 1: attacking the citizens to force their hand to pay these toolls,
Speaker 1: any fees to keep them quote unquote safe. For many
Speaker 1: of them, oh yeah, many of them are going into
Speaker 1: these camps. My god, the camps are worse than being
Speaker 1: in the cities almost honestly, these camps are horrific and
Speaker 1: so all this money that they're supposed to be getting
Speaker 1: from America to help from the you and to help
Speaker 1: from all these different organizations is just gone. It's just
Speaker 1: right aware.
Speaker 2: And that's the point, right, that situation in Somalia and
Speaker 2: America being a I know, there's gonna be so many
Speaker 2: people saying America was never great and we're just such
Speaker 2: a horrible, horrible country. Yeah, I'm sorry. No, No, Somalia actually
Speaker 2: has a lot of horrible shit going on there. Americans can,
Speaker 2: more often than not, the vast majority, ninety nine percent
Speaker 2: of us can go to sleep at night and not
Speaker 2: worry about if somebody's going to kick in our door
Speaker 2: and kill our children as a way to extort money
Speaker 2: from us. I think most Americans don't have that problem.
Speaker 1: You know, six million people are in urgent life saving
Speaker 1: assistance right now. Six million people need urgent life saving
Speaker 1: consistance in Somalia as we speak exactly.
Speaker 2: That's not the same conversation for America. So for all
Speaker 2: these people they are saying America is never great, like
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, as compared to what it's.
Speaker 1: Their Cholera is running rampant right now through the camps,
Speaker 1: dysentery coolera. They have all sorts of diseases right now,
Speaker 1: the unsanitary conditions. They have no drinkable water, they barely
Speaker 1: have food. The food that they are getting is not
Speaker 1: even enough to feed them. Most people are dying from
Speaker 1: starvation right now. Which is the person in the population
Speaker 1: is in poverty. Yeah, seventy percent is in like extreme poverty.
Speaker 1: We're not just talking about like kind of poverty. No,
Speaker 1: we're the most extreme you could possibly get.
Speaker 2: And Somalia, the warlord's using hunger as a tactic is
Speaker 2: nothing new. That's that's been happening since the early nineties
Speaker 2: as well, which is a portion of the reason what
Speaker 2: of why America and the UN had to intervene in
Speaker 2: what you saw in the movie A black Hawk Down.
Speaker 2: But to your point about the extreme poverty, just so
Speaker 2: everyone gets a real good snap shot of the level
Speaker 2: of poverty we're talking about here, Your average annual salary
Speaker 2: for you know, Joe Blow living in Somalia right now
Speaker 2: is six hundred US dollars a year. Six hundred a
Speaker 2: year is the average, which means that most adults are
Speaker 2: living and trying to feed their family on less than
Speaker 2: a dollar fifty a day, give or take.
Speaker 1: That's that's insane, the like that's absolutely insane.
Speaker 2: And so with that, I understand why these Somalians would
Speaker 2: want to come to America, especially if there was a
Speaker 2: program offered to them. I got no issue with this,
Speaker 2: right the TPS that Trump has pulled away. As far
Speaker 2: as Okay, them being here in the first place, I
Speaker 2: get hell, yes, they want an education, they want better lives,
Speaker 2: all the things, they want to get involved in their
Speaker 2: local politics. Okay, that's fine. But then when we find
Speaker 2: out that they have these nonprofits that are accepting tax dollars,
Speaker 2: and then we find out what that money is actually
Speaker 2: going towards. Good cult men, let's dive into it today,
Speaker 2: because the thing that really got to start on this
Speaker 2: was that over seventy people have been arrested for the
Speaker 2: fraud that is going on with the Feed Our Future organization,
Speaker 2: which claims that it's feeding Somalian children, but in reality
Speaker 2: is sending over a billion dollars to a Somalian terrorist group.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is ful crazy. One point yeah, one point
Speaker 1: eight five million kids are in acute malnourishment. I'm just
Speaker 1: looked at the statistic like they're on the verge of
Speaker 1: death and they have no healthcare workers to help. The
Speaker 1: hospitals don't have nobody. They don't even have hardly any hospitals.
Speaker 1: The supplies that they do have are trying to be
Speaker 1: funneled in from different un groups. If they can even
Speaker 1: make it into those areas is a whole other issue,
Speaker 1: because they're getting attacked NonStop. The internal conflict is huge,
Speaker 1: the military presence, they're not letting them in certain locations
Speaker 1: into the these pretty much cesspool these poor places that
Speaker 1: are just these camps, and they have no ability to
Speaker 1: get to them, and if they do, they might not
Speaker 1: even be let into help. Right these people are struggling
Speaker 1: so severely on top of the drought and the famine
Speaker 1: that's happening, like these people are dying rampidly and happening
Speaker 1: for you. You'd be helping for years, the many that
Speaker 1: could be helping these people here in America. These Somalians
Speaker 1: are lying and funneling them to the terrorists that are
Speaker 1: terrorizing their people. That's what kisses me off the most.
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Speaker 1: I just want to put in perspective for all the
Speaker 1: cult members that you spend five dollars at least on
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Speaker 1: and you could be spending five dollars on us and
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Speaker 2: All right, y'all, let's dive straight into the real reason
Speaker 2: why me and Raven even decided we need to talk
Speaker 2: about this, right So, this is actually from CBS News.
Speaker 2: This dropped two days ago. Man thirty six years old
Speaker 2: becomes the seventy eighth person charged in Feeding our Future
Speaker 2: fraud scheme. Attorney's office says, let's get into it here.
Speaker 2: A thirty six year old man has become the seventy
Speaker 2: eighth person charged in the two hundred and fifty million
Speaker 2: dollars Feeding our Future fraud scheme. The US Attorney's Office
Speaker 2: in Minnesota said, uh uh, you know, I'm gonna you
Speaker 2: can give the apology now. I am going to butcher
Speaker 2: all of the names and pronunciations of the people and
Speaker 2: the places and the things when it comes to Somalia.
Speaker 2: I don't speak Arab, I don't speak this dialect of Afrikaan,
Speaker 2: and I'm very sorry. I speak American English. So bear
Speaker 2: with me as I try to stutter stuck my way
Speaker 2: through this. These names look.
Speaker 1: At me, don't like me, cult members I am. I
Speaker 1: am not any better. So I suck at big words
Speaker 1: and I'm just kidding. I just don't know what the pronunciations. Thanks.
Speaker 2: I feel like I do, okay, but then I get
Speaker 2: hit with some of this shit and I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: why how how is there that many makeup words?
Speaker 1: I'm like, just abbreviate it.
Speaker 2: Right, right, right, So the US Attorney's Office in Minnesota
Speaker 2: said that Dera Shad a deer shid Bixie Duel Duel
Speaker 2: all Right is charged with four counts of wire fraud
Speaker 2: and three counts of engaging in monetary transaction in property
Speaker 2: derived from specified unlawful activity. According to the federal indictment,
Speaker 2: Duell cooperated and served on the board of two Minnesota nonprofits,
Speaker 2: ballal Mosque Inc. And Multicultural Resource Center, Inc. Where he
Speaker 2: was the president of the latter. Duel and another person
Speaker 2: identified as a conspirator applied in March twenty twenty one
Speaker 2: to operate the two businesses as food program sites under
Speaker 2: the sponsorship of Feeding Our Future. That name is gonna
Speaker 2: come up a good bit here, y'all, core documents said,
Speaker 2: all right, so, meals at sites across Minnesota during COVID
Speaker 2: nineteen pandemic were funded by Federal Child Nutrition Program Okay
Speaker 2: fair enough. Dual claimed to operate both sites, the blal
Speaker 2: Mosque food site in Pelican Rapids and the Multicultural Resource
Speaker 2: Center food site in Morehead. According to the indictment, Duel
Speaker 2: at times completed meal count sheets that said over forty
Speaker 2: thousand meals were being served to children every week. However,
Speaker 2: as Duel knew those meal counts were false and inflated,
Speaker 2: the indictment said, he then submitted the meal count sheets
Speaker 2: for reimbursement. The court document said. Prosecutors accused Duel of
Speaker 2: submitting fraudulent invoices that claimed to list food purchases by
Speaker 2: both businesses when very little food was bought quote unquote.
Speaker 2: Court documents said he also turned in fake rosters of
Speaker 2: the names of children fed at both sites. Between March
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty one and February of twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: the two nonprofits received about one point one million dollars
Speaker 2: in federal child nutrition program funds through Feeding Our Future,
Speaker 2: the indictment said, though little of this money was used
Speaker 2: to purchase food, Duel and the conspirator, who controlled the
Speaker 2: bank accounts of both businesses, transferred most quote unquote of
Speaker 2: the money to family and Duel. According to court documents,
Speaker 2: he used the funds to travel, enrich himself and by
Speaker 2: real estate. The Federal Bureau of Investigation, US Postal Inspection
Speaker 2: Service and IRS worked to investigate Duel. Okay, so he
Speaker 2: himself was using the federal funding to enrich himself on
Speaker 2: US soil, though, and that Okay, I'm I'm that's horrible,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad that he's being caught and he's gonna
Speaker 2: be fried. But that kind of got me thinking, here
Speaker 2: seventy eighth person charged with this Feeding our Future fraud scheme.
Speaker 2: He this was one guy and his co conspirator. They
Speaker 2: didn't even name him. I don't even know if he's
Speaker 2: being charged or if he's just kind of being brought up.
Speaker 2: Maybe he took a plea deal. I don't know, but
Speaker 2: they got me thinking, right, the Feeding our Future conversation,
Speaker 2: To what level and to what extent has this really
Speaker 2: gone down? Well?
Speaker 1: They made videos and pictures of them feeding people that
Speaker 1: weren't actually real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could believe that's all crisis actors and things
Speaker 2: they know.
Speaker 1: They did like they used random people, but they also
Speaker 1: did AI generation. They did different things that they showed
Speaker 1: them feeding large amounts of groups of people, and to
Speaker 1: go along with their documentation.
Speaker 2: It was all AI that's great. Do you just see
Speaker 2: this kid at six fingers or some shit.
Speaker 1: Okay, it wasn't just AI was it was like random
Speaker 1: actors or they would get together like all the kids
Speaker 1: and dress some different things so that that way they
Speaker 1: could show, like, look at us, We're doing what we're
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. We're not stealing all of this
Speaker 1: money from you.
Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, So with all that news article, yes indeed
Speaker 2: so now this is from a Fox News clip from
Speaker 2: one day ago. Uh, this is the the Will Kine Show.
Speaker 2: Listen to the numbers that are being just talked about
Speaker 2: when it comes to this level of fraud over the years.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it together. We are helping it. Throts.
Speaker 2: So Molly's have always.
Speaker 3: Seen as a fabric, has seen themselves as a fabric
Speaker 3: of this slation.
Speaker 2: That's ilhan Omar, which for the record, put a pin
Speaker 2: in her because we will be discussing her in her
Speaker 2: disgusting self here in a bit. But like, let's continue.
Speaker 4: Just how many Somalians make up that fabric of our nation?
Speaker 4: In Minnesota, it's just over seventy six thousand, five thousand,
Speaker 4: of which currently refugees and four hundred and thirty have
Speaker 4: protected status. Since then, since nineteen ninety three, there have
Speaker 4: been twenty six thousand refugees. But there's also a lot
Speaker 4: of money being sent to Somalia from abroad. Forty percent
Speaker 4: of households there get money transfers. It totals one point
Speaker 4: seven billion by the Somali diaspora. That was in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty three. It's also worth pointing out that's more than
Speaker 4: the budget of Somalia's government in twenty twenty three. Where's
Speaker 4: it coming from, Well, here's an example. The federal child
Speaker 4: nutrition program Feeding our Future very much in America. The
Speaker 4: sponsored organization, we're primarily owned and operated by members of
Speaker 4: the Somali community. It claimed to be serving thousands of
Speaker 4: meals a day, seven days a week to underprivileged children.
Speaker 4: Spoiler alert, it didn't. The frauding used fake meal counts,
Speaker 4: doctored attendance records, and fabricated invoices, all while raking in
Speaker 4: quite a bit of money from the government. Just this week,
Speaker 4: a thirty six year old man became the seventy eighth
Speaker 4: person charged in the scheme. According to prosecutors, he claimed
Speaker 4: to serve six thousand meals a day, seven days a
Speaker 4: week at one of the meal sites, which is more
Speaker 4: than double the number of people who live in the town.
Speaker 4: In twenty nineteen, Feeding our Future received three point four
Speaker 4: million in federal funding. By twenty twenty one, that number
Speaker 4: was two hundred million. In reality, that money was being
Speaker 4: used to fund lavish lifestyles in the US and elsewhere,
Speaker 4: and many other schemes spawned from this. One News Nation
Speaker 4: reports to date, eighty six people have been indicted. Of
Speaker 4: those indicted, federal authorities say seventy nine of them are
Speaker 4: Somali descent. We told you about Minnesota's Medicaid Housing Stabilization Services.
Speaker 4: It was originally created to help seniors, addicts, and others
Speaker 4: find housing. Program criteria was loose, leading to fraud and
Speaker 4: costs exploding. Six people accused of defrauding HSS are members
Speaker 4: of the Somali community. We also told you about the
Speaker 4: autism scam, where a woman in the Somali community was
Speaker 4: one of the many accused of recruiting kids for autism
Speaker 4: theory therapy even if they didn't have autism. As a result,
Speaker 4: Medicaid claims also surged. Bottom line, we know this fraud
Speaker 4: is happening, but what's worse is when good prosecutors try
Speaker 4: to do something about it and a judge lets the
Speaker 4: convicts off the hook, like in Hennepin County, where a
Speaker 4: judge tossed out a jury guilty verdict in a seven
Speaker 4: point two million dollar home health care fraud case. In August,
Speaker 4: Abtifa Yusef and his wife lull Ahmed were found guilty
Speaker 4: by a jury of stealing seven point two million in
Speaker 4: taxpayer money through medicaid over billing in a personal care
Speaker 4: assistant scam. According to the Minnesota Attorney General's office, they
Speaker 4: use stolen funds for you guessed it a lavish lifestyle,
Speaker 4: one million into a personal account, three hundred and eighty
Speaker 4: seven thousand in cash, twenty two thousand at a furniture store,
Speaker 4: forty two thousand at luxury car dealers, and eighty thousand
Speaker 4: at high end clothing stores. But despite all of that
Speaker 4: and a quick jury verdict, the judge tossed it out, writing,
Speaker 4: while the Court is troubled by the manner in which
Speaker 4: fraud was able to be perpetrated at promise, the state's
Speaker 4: evidence did not exclude other reasonable rational inferences that are
Speaker 4: inconsistent with mister yuse of skilt. It's all incredible, seemingly rampant.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's will okay. So now taking all of that
Speaker 2: into account, these are just a few little highlighted details
Speaker 2: that were all funneled through the feeding our future charade. Right,
Speaker 2: it is a big fraud scheme as it always was
Speaker 2: intended to be, to be completely.
Speaker 1: Honest with you, easy, it's crazy that the judge threw
Speaker 1: that out and that all of these people that are
Speaker 1: doing this fraud, it's only hurting the actual community that
Speaker 1: needs it, right, All those children are probably suffering in
Speaker 1: those communities that actually do need meals and do need help,
Speaker 1: and here we are just funneling it for lavish lifestyles.
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty fucked up.
Speaker 2: It is, and it just kind of is what it is, right.
Speaker 2: They don't really care about it because, well, the local
Speaker 2: judge is gonna throw it out anyway. What difference does
Speaker 2: it make to quote kill.
Speaker 1: How much he's been getting paid for exact for him
Speaker 1: to just sweep it under the rug, how many of
Speaker 1: those people and how big of scheme it is in
Speaker 1: and of itself, and how many actually belong to the terrorist.
Speaker 2: Groups to quote Killery Clinton, What does it matter? Because
Speaker 2: it's it doesn't, It really doesn't. It's gonna get thrown out.
Speaker 2: And these children who were claiming that they were autistic
Speaker 2: and they're getting all this federal funding for therapy, they're
Speaker 2: not real. They don't really exist. The one that killed
Speaker 2: me was six thousand meals were given seven days a
Speaker 2: week to this community from this one mosque. That's twice
Speaker 2: as many people than what live in the town, let
Speaker 2: alone attendees at this mosque.
Speaker 1: So sure, you go, how did it go by so long?
Speaker 1: That's what I wonder. I'm like, there's so many people
Speaker 1: that would see this and they just are kind of like.
Speaker 2: You would think. You would think though, but think about
Speaker 2: this too. It Say what you want about Trump, say
Speaker 2: what you want about Elon, say what you want about
Speaker 2: the Doge conversation. From the first four months of this administration,
Speaker 2: they found so many cases where money was just being
Speaker 2: thrown into a fire pit somewhere, and yeah, it should
Speaker 2: have been caught. There should be checks and balances, but
Speaker 2: there's just not. As long as you can fill out
Speaker 2: the paperwork the right way and you have somebody at
Speaker 2: the office that doesn't care, the funding is going to
Speaker 2: just go that way.
Speaker 1: So many people are actually suffering in America that need
Speaker 1: true help, and then we just have money pits that
Speaker 1: are happening so many people. So many children are on
Speaker 1: waitless to get care and to get specialized care. My
Speaker 1: one child we waited an entire year to even be
Speaker 1: seen for one specific thing. And it's just mind blowing
Speaker 1: to me that there's people out there that are doing
Speaker 1: this and then want to claim like, but you're racist,
Speaker 1: you're this, you're that. It's like, no, you're just a
Speaker 1: horrible human being that shouldn't shouldn't be allowed to be here.
Speaker 1: If this is what you're doing, including Americans, by the way,
Speaker 1: and including Americans, if they're here and they're taking from
Speaker 1: American citizens, you know, we can just ship them overseas,
Speaker 1: put them locations that they want to go to.
Speaker 2: I wish we could just do that. And that's to
Speaker 2: that same point. As much as these people want to
Speaker 2: rant and rave and even Americans for the reck. When
Speaker 2: I say these people, I don't hear me.
Speaker 1: Out I mean anybody in America.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm talking about American citizens. A matter of fact,
Speaker 2: I'll be even more frank, I'm talking about what people
Speaker 2: who think that America is so fascist and so bad
Speaker 2: in all these things, and they scream and beg that
Speaker 2: we were more socialists or more whatever their version of
Speaker 2: ridiculous correct ideologies are quote unquote right. It's crazy to
Speaker 2: me how we'll have people from Somalia come to America
Speaker 2: and try to make certain pockets of America more Somalian
Speaker 2: like they wanted to be just like home. I'm curious
Speaker 2: if we were to take these people that keep saying
Speaker 2: America was never great and all that, and we were
Speaker 2: to just implant them in Somalia for I'll be very
Speaker 2: nice and say six months, I wonder how much they
Speaker 2: would come back singing the fucking Star Spangled banner at
Speaker 2: nauseum to talk about how amazing the stars and stripes
Speaker 2: really is.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't even make it though. They would be headed, captured.
Speaker 1: There was those people slavery, yeah, they would kill them.
Speaker 2: You remember that couple in Afghanistan They tried biking across
Speaker 2: Afghanistan to prove that it really wasn't that bad.
Speaker 1: The ones that got beheaded, Yeah, they didn't.
Speaker 2: Even make it, not even an entire week. This this
Speaker 2: married couple. I want to say, they're from like France
Speaker 2: or something, and they decided that, you know what, everybody
Speaker 2: keeps saying, the Taliban is so bad, it's just rhetoric,
Speaker 2: it's just the media. We're gonna prove it by vlogging
Speaker 2: a bicycle trip across Afghanistan. They were found less than
Speaker 2: a week later with their bodies in a ditch and
Speaker 2: their heads on spikes, because that's how they do business there,
Speaker 2: and it's like, sure, people, y'all. Y' Also a lot of.
Speaker 1: People don't understand that though in America. They don't They
Speaker 1: haven't been outside of America, so they don't quite grasp
Speaker 1: what people are going through in other locations around this
Speaker 1: world and what they're actually true suffering. Looks like we
Speaker 1: have pockets of true suffering in America. We have the
Speaker 1: paces absolutely struggling. We have lots of people that are
Speaker 1: struggling to make ends meet, that are struggling to feed
Speaker 1: their families, and we should be pouring our resources into
Speaker 1: our American citizens, but there are lots of places like
Speaker 1: small that need help. I mean, they desperately need help.
Speaker 1: You're talking almost two million kids are dying for food, right,
Speaker 1: but then we can't even get the food to them exactly.
Speaker 1: People don't quite understand that. All they think is that,
Speaker 1: you know, the political atmosphere and the left and the
Speaker 1: right fighting is more important than understanding that there is
Speaker 1: true suffering happening in this world, and that maybe we
Speaker 1: should try to work together and find common ground instead
Speaker 1: of swinging so polarized left and right.
Speaker 2: You know, I've talked about this on the show before.
Speaker 2: There was a time, long before we were ever alive,
Speaker 2: where the politicians, regardless of what letter designation they had
Speaker 2: by their name, they had at least some sort of
Speaker 2: a working decorum, right. They would they would shit talk
Speaker 2: each other, for sure, they would call each other out publicly,
Speaker 2: and all the things that's been around for forever. Yellow
Speaker 2: journalism has been a thing for quite some time. What
Speaker 2: I mean is, I would say even forties and fifties,
Speaker 2: and arguably even into the sixties and touching into the seventies,
Speaker 2: even there were politicians that, yeah, okay, I might be
Speaker 2: a Republican, but hey, Democrat homie over here, I will
Speaker 2: vote in favor of this bill you're trying to get passed.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna need you do the same thing whenever
Speaker 2: I have something next year that I'm trying to pass.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll scratch your back, you scratch mine. We're
Speaker 2: gonna try to, you know, a little bit of some
Speaker 2: song and dance routine. We got to keep up appearances
Speaker 2: to the people, make sure our constituents ain't mad at us.
Speaker 2: We gotta get reelected, of course, but like, let's let's
Speaker 2: try to make something happen to get some real change
Speaker 2: inacted here. Let's do something for the better of America.
Speaker 2: That was a thing at one point in time. I
Speaker 2: would argue, ever since, like from the mid seventies to now,
Speaker 2: it has gotten so far gone and so.
Speaker 1: Pot Americans anymore. Is it's not about helping us or
Speaker 1: protecting us, or making sure every group has what they need,
Speaker 1: and you know, really trying to make every community within
Speaker 1: America thrive and people lesson poverty, help people have better education,
Speaker 1: help people have better access to healthcare, do the things
Speaker 1: that we need to do. Our education system is obviously failing,
Speaker 1: So why are we not implementing better education? Like Germany?
Speaker 1: For example, Germany's education system is fantastic. They're making people
Speaker 1: that have actual jobs, career paths and everything. Like you
Speaker 1: start kind of in that path, like it I think
Speaker 1: it's like fourth grade. You kind of start, you take
Speaker 1: a couple tests, and then you take another like again
Speaker 1: at like seventh or eighth grade, you take your next
Speaker 1: set of tests, and then you go to your specialized
Speaker 1: schools and you can transfer back and forth, depends on
Speaker 1: what your job field and they pretty much have a
Speaker 1: really well organized system of like trying to these get
Speaker 1: kids to figure out what they would like to do,
Speaker 1: have a generalized idea, go into those fields, already be
Speaker 1: in a direction of life.
Speaker 2: But Germany has got their own problems because of their
Speaker 2: own Muslim immigration issues that they allowed because of German
Speaker 2: aka Angela Merkel.
Speaker 1: They're kicking them out left and right. They're over their shit.
Speaker 2: Thank god, because and that was so crazy when Merkel
Speaker 2: went on and there was rape gangs that were going
Speaker 2: up and down streets, and her response to her German
Speaker 2: people was well, just traveling groups, like we can't stop them.
Speaker 2: It's their culture, and it's like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: What I think. It's Ireland, Ireland or Scotland where they're talking,
Speaker 1: and even the UK right now where their citizens are
Speaker 1: showing like we can't go outside, we can't do these things.
Speaker 1: We know we're being hunted down, we're being targeted. And
Speaker 1: then you have the videos that have been popping up
Speaker 1: this last week from Muslim groups that are like we're
Speaker 1: taking over and that's what we've been saying, this is
Speaker 1: what we're pushing or this is what we're going to do.
Speaker 1: We're going to take over Europe. We're coming for America,
Speaker 1: We're coming for Canada. And it's like, I don't understand
Speaker 1: why people don't take the threat seriously, but people out number.
Speaker 2: Of politicians don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well the politicians are just like, no, you're good.
Speaker 1: And my favorite part about all this is the UK
Speaker 1: is charging their citizens and arresting them for speaking up
Speaker 1: against anything to do with any type of Islamic anything.
Speaker 1: It's hate speech and it's hate rhetoric and they can't
Speaker 1: see anything. And like the one lady that she got
Speaker 1: attacked and she actually like was vocalizing what's going on
Speaker 1: and they arrested her instead, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: we have a huge issue here. The guy with the
Speaker 1: Korean Scottish dude, Yeah, he was just attained. I don't
Speaker 1: know if anyone's ever seen this guy. So he wore
Speaker 1: bacon on his shoulders in an interview with a UK
Speaker 1: journalist and they didn't realize it. And he goes off
Speaker 1: on a tangent about Islam or Muslims.
Speaker 2: And same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he ends up he didn't get arrested. Then
Speaker 1: he actually just got arrested or detained. Last week he
Speaker 1: is released again, but he is not like slowing down.
Speaker 1: I'm going to call out everything that's been happening and
Speaker 1: the people that just killed. Who was it in New
Speaker 1: York to Afghanistan?
Speaker 2: Oh? No, in DC the shooting it was an Afghan
Speaker 2: national who came over because he helped out US forces when
Speaker 2: we were in Afghanistan, and he shot two National Guard
Speaker 2: soldiers in d C, which is mind blowing to me.
Speaker 2: Of all the places, you're gonna pop off the spot
Speaker 2: where there's National Guard troops on every street corner. Hell,
Speaker 2: we were just there.
Speaker 1: They're everywhere, They're everywhere.
Speaker 2: What did you think was gonna happen here? Homie? But okay, fine,
Speaker 2: But to your point, a lot of people in America
Speaker 2: really to just the Korean Scottish guy who also that
Speaker 2: sounds like a misnomer. He's real, he's out there, he's hilarious.
Speaker 1: He's a little mystical creature.
Speaker 2: Right, no doubt. It's like black Scottish. They're out there,
Speaker 2: but they're almost they're mythical in ways. But my point
Speaker 2: is people in America don't understand how freedom of speech
Speaker 2: is such a valuable and precious thing that we do,
Speaker 2: in fact need to protect. In the UK, they don't
Speaker 2: have that. They can get arrested for anything. There.
Speaker 1: The two British guys that come here all the time
Speaker 1: in vlog food and all that stuff. They're really funny,
Speaker 1: they're well known. Did you know that they've almost been arrested.
Speaker 1: Actually I think they're going to get arrested for what
Speaker 1: they've said. Yeah, just believe it, just because they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's some things about England that we
Speaker 1: don't really like. Nothing that they say at all was
Speaker 1: like political in nature or like we should get killed
Speaker 1: for this.
Speaker 2: We had a guy come on our show. He was
Speaker 2: from Australia, also a part of the British Commonwealth, so
Speaker 2: you know, they don't have freedom of speech there. He's
Speaker 2: a conspiracy theorist. He had a conspiracy podcast. It was
Speaker 2: a solid We had one as a guest. Great guy,
Speaker 2: great guy, and it wasn't even very politically motivated. But
Speaker 2: they were trying to find a way to fry him
Speaker 2: and they couldn't get him because he was very careful
Speaker 2: with his wording. But he had a pair of nunchucks
Speaker 2: on the wall behind him, and in Australia that's a
Speaker 2: federal offense. You can't have nunchucks in Austriia. They were
Speaker 2: foam for the record, they were signed by like Chung
Speaker 2: Lee or something like. It was. It was from a
Speaker 2: movie thing. It was a prop set of nunchucks. They
Speaker 2: swatted him, kicked in his door, took him off in cuffs,
Speaker 2: saying the nunchucks were the reason, but in reality it
Speaker 2: was because he had a mouth on them. That's how
Speaker 2: it goes down.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why people think that this is just
Speaker 1: how the world. Everyone can see whatever they want. No,
Speaker 1: they cannot know, they cannot. V for Vendetta is a
Speaker 1: great example for people to like visually look at and
Speaker 1: be like, hmm, would this happen? Yes, it's happening. It's
Speaker 1: happening right now. It's right now. They like, we are
Speaker 1: living V for Vendetta. Please wake up people.
Speaker 2: And to your point about how like the people in
Speaker 2: the UK and in Germany, all the citizenry is are
Speaker 2: fully aware of what's going on and that's why they're
Speaker 2: revolting in the way that they are, but the politicians
Speaker 2: are so far removed from what's actually going on. They
Speaker 2: are currently trying to pass a law in England to
Speaker 2: where you can't marry your first cousin. They're trying to
Speaker 2: pass that now, right, because that's that's been a thing
Speaker 2: on the books. I can't oh wait wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 2: wait wait, because in theory, you're thinking that sounds so dumb.
Speaker 2: Why would that not be a law? The political spectrums
Speaker 2: of the left and the right over there are arguing
Speaker 2: about it because the Muslim majority is saying this is
Speaker 2: racist against their culture. Let that one sink in. As
Speaker 2: long as you need to good cult members. They are
Speaker 2: deliberating over if they can't. That was a made up word.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say delineating, but you know what, there
Speaker 2: it is. They're deliberating over if they should or should
Speaker 2: not be allowed to marry their first cousins as a
Speaker 2: national law in England. And the only pushback is from
Speaker 2: a Muslim dude who's saying that this is racist against
Speaker 2: his people.
Speaker 1: That's insane. That is not their culture, like, that is
Speaker 1: not their that is not their area.
Speaker 2: And they say it's for all races, including the Gypsies,
Speaker 2: which that's the thing the Gypsies do too. But it's like, okay, dude,
Speaker 2: the traveler.
Speaker 1: All the things that are happening though right now, like
Speaker 1: that's the thing that we're going to lynchpin it, yep.
Speaker 1: Not the massive amounts of rapes that are going on.
Speaker 1: Not that your citizens are being attacked in their homes,
Speaker 1: those old people that got beat the shit out of
Speaker 1: and everything else.
Speaker 2: Not the woman having brunch and getting asked thrown in
Speaker 2: her face by some random dude walking down the street. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: that's not it. We need to talk about how if
Speaker 2: I can't mayor my cushion. You just being racist. I
Speaker 2: don't know why I threw a redneck term on that
Speaker 2: one when it should have been more Islamic sounding, but.
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I mean to be fair,
Speaker 1: like it's still as fucked up, I don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: but like not to sidestep that. But there is far
Speaker 1: greater issues happening right now than that specific one, and
Speaker 1: people are getting arrested left and right over there first
Speaker 1: packing up against this and being like we aren't safe.
Speaker 1: We have to put our phones in our pockets or
Speaker 1: hide them someplace on our bodies, and we feel like
Speaker 1: we're terrified to go outside. And no, but masty bart
Speaker 1: them like Germany is. Germany is like fuck you, guys,
Speaker 1: We're done with you, and we're just masty parting.
Speaker 2: Now to tie in the whole marrying your cousin thing,
Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking about old Omar and how she
Speaker 2: married her brother to get citizenship into the United States
Speaker 2: in a bit. But to circle back to this conversation
Speaker 2: with Somalians in Minnesota, they come to America, cool, no problems,
Speaker 2: good for you, welcome, hope you get on your feet.
Speaker 2: They take advantage of American's kind nature, which I understand
Speaker 2: there is gonna be a lot of people that think
Speaker 2: they're gonna scoff that I just made that comment. Once again,
Speaker 2: your standard American is a lot kinder natured than your
Speaker 2: standard Somalian living in Somalia. Right now, I don't think
Speaker 2: that's a hot take either. They take advantage of our systems,
Speaker 2: They take advantage of our policies and our nonprofits and
Speaker 2: all these things, and then they end up funneling this
Speaker 2: money back to Somalia to fun terrorist groups. It's wild,
Speaker 2: but all right, how did this all start? How did
Speaker 2: the Somalians really get such a foothold in Minnesota. I
Speaker 2: got an article pulled up here. This is from Menpost
Speaker 2: dot com Minnesota Post dot com and is actually dated
Speaker 2: back to twenty seventeen. But this will give us a
Speaker 2: good snapshot as to how and why they have taken
Speaker 2: over this area in the way that they have. The
Speaker 2: complicated reality behind the story of the Somali community's success
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. I'm using success very loosely. When abdurrah Ham, Abdirahman,
Speaker 2: Kaihen Jesus these names. When Oabe came to the US
Speaker 2: two decades ago, one of the first things he noticed
Speaker 2: about Minnesotans was their love of restaurants, especially those offering
Speaker 2: ethnic cuisine, which again at South Caama that of course
Speaker 2: they're gonna like something with some flavor. He also noticed
Speaker 2: that though there were a lot of ethnic eateries in
Speaker 2: the Twin Cities, many tended to fall into one of
Speaker 2: several groups Italian, Thai, Indian, Mexican, or Middle Eastern. There
Speaker 2: are very few, if any, places to get decent Somali food,
Speaker 2: which I feel like is a bit of a misnomer, because,
Speaker 2: as we just talked about, Somalians themselves don't have food.
Speaker 2: But all right, it's the same as like saying an
Speaker 2: Ethiopian restaurant, like, have you ever had Ethiopian food? Because
Speaker 2: neither of eat Theopians.
Speaker 1: But all right, that's so horrible.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Are you gonna tell me I'm lying? Are
Speaker 2: you gonna say Italian?
Speaker 1: And they have their own food, and they are own
Speaker 1: spices and things that they when they are not in
Speaker 1: a drought or a famine. They have culture.
Speaker 2: I don't. I didn't say they don't have culture. I'm
Speaker 2: saying the culture eat.
Speaker 1: Food in their type of food.
Speaker 2: Anyway, although I will say before I left DC and
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, I saw that they had to eat the
Speaker 2: open restaurant open up. I went by just to look
Speaker 2: at what their menu was. Y'all could have that Africa
Speaker 2: has a lot of really good food, like they do
Speaker 2: as a continent. They have tons of food the cuisine
Speaker 2: of that section of Africa. Then they can keep that
Speaker 2: more good over here. Anyway, moving on, it says within
Speaker 2: a few years Kaheen made Afro Deli into one of
Speaker 2: the most successful immigrant owned businesses in the state. Today,
Speaker 2: it features two twin city locations. A third is planned
Speaker 2: and this again twenty seventeen, so they may have a
Speaker 2: third location open now and a thriving catering business that
Speaker 2: counts like the likes of General Mills and target among
Speaker 2: its corporate clients. Interesting. Kaheen is a classic American success story,
Speaker 2: of course, but he also personifies what's become a conspicuous
Speaker 2: data point in the increasingly common narrative about Minnesota's Somali community.
Speaker 2: Over the last several years, researchers and government officials from
Speaker 2: Europe in different parts of the US have regularly visited
Speaker 2: the Twin Cities to learn about the East African Muslim communities.
Speaker 2: Political and economic success is a direct quote here. Minneapolis
Speaker 2: is viewed around the world, particularly in Scandinavian countries where
Speaker 2: the Somali diaspora is growing, as a model for Somali
Speaker 2: integration rights. Stephanie Chambers, a political science professor at Trinity College,
Speaker 2: in her recently published book comparing the Somali American communities
Speaker 2: in Minneapolis to Columbus, Ohio, shout out to the Ohio Somalis.
Speaker 2: Other American mayors, such as mayor of Portland, Oregon, have
Speaker 2: visited Minneapolis to learn about policies that can help their
Speaker 2: cities be better addressed the needs of Somali immigrants. For
Speaker 2: all the talk of success and integration, however, the more
Speaker 2: common reality for Somali Americans in Minnesota is more complicated,
Speaker 2: if less comforting. From the outside, the community seems to
Speaker 2: be doing really great. This is from Ahmad Yusa, a
Speaker 2: Mini Appolis public schools teacher who's written about Somali's in Minnesota,
Speaker 2: which also, if I'm not mistaken, Ahmad Yusef also was
Speaker 2: in the mix of this fraud scandal. We're all clear.
Speaker 2: I think his name actually just got brought up for
Speaker 2: the seven point two million dollar case that just got
Speaker 2: thrown out. He and his wife. But okay, he's a
Speaker 2: public school teacher. Okay, but when you look deep down,
Speaker 2: we're struggling big time, except for a few individuals have
Speaker 2: risen above as cream of the crop.
Speaker 1: So the six him embezzling money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because you know, he's a public school teacher
Speaker 2: and they don't make shit, which I mean, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people have opinions on that teachers are not
Speaker 2: respected to the level that they once were, And I
Speaker 2: would argue because most of them have no business being
Speaker 2: in a classroom or in front of children. But that's
Speaker 2: a talk for another day. But anyway, this guy decided
Speaker 2: that you know, Ola Maud Yusef, he figured, hey, if
Speaker 2: you can't beat him, join them. So he just started
Speaker 2: embezzling money to the tune of over seven million dollars.
Speaker 2: And then when it was discovered and a jury said guilty,
Speaker 2: the judges threw it out.
Speaker 1: I bet you they put gave him so much money,
Speaker 1: so much money.
Speaker 2: And they even showed that was like eighty thousand of
Speaker 2: that was spent on luxury clothing. Like we just learned that's.
Speaker 1: Not that difficult. It is not that difficult to buy
Speaker 1: that much.
Speaker 2: It's not if I got seven million dollars, I would
Speaker 2: be investing that money to turn that into seven hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars. I don't know. Maybe I'm just crazy for that,
Speaker 2: but like that's I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I would not go on a shopping spree.
Speaker 2: No, not no, especially if you're only running that bit
Speaker 2: for two years. In two years, you got that much money,
Speaker 2: you think maybe well, I mean that's the thing. They're
Speaker 2: som Aliens, so they don't understand what, like how al
Speaker 2: Capone got taken down was for income tax evasion, right,
Speaker 2: and they don't understand how the Treasury officers will absolutely
Speaker 2: kick in your door if you ain't given Uncle Sam
Speaker 2: his cut.
Speaker 1: So like I've been here for twenty six thousands of
Speaker 1: them have come in over the last you know what decade,
Speaker 1: but there's quite a few of them that have been
Speaker 1: here for a few decades. They understand pop culture, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: But that's my point. If it's a Somali business owner,
Speaker 2: I bet he understand what. I don't mean the pop
Speaker 2: culture of Al Capone. I mean how American tax laws work,
Speaker 2: and how even the upper echelon of the criminal organizations
Speaker 2: in America still give Uncle Sam his cut because they
Speaker 2: ain't trying to go down like Capone did. I'm thinking, oh,
Speaker 2: yes they will. But that being said, if it was
Speaker 2: a Somali business owner, I bet they learned pretty quickly
Speaker 2: about how American tax laws work. A school teacher who
Speaker 2: decided to start taking some money on some fraud shit,
Speaker 2: I have a feeling he maybe he doesn't understand the
Speaker 2: ins and outs of how to play the game. I
Speaker 2: don't know, could be wrong anyway. Here so the story
Speaker 2: of a success story. The history of Somali Americans and
Speaker 2: Minnesota echoes that of many immigrant communities in the United States.
Speaker 2: When the first waves of Somali's arrived in Minnesota in
Speaker 2: the early nineteen nineties, many enter the workforce via unskilled
Speaker 2: jobs at meat packing plants where the work didn't require
Speaker 2: prior work experience, advanced degrees, or fluency in English. But
Speaker 2: as the community grew and as more Somali immigrants improved
Speaker 2: their English skills and earned career credentials, they branched out
Speaker 2: into more industrious and professions. Included industries and professions rather
Speaker 2: including work helping local and state government agencies bridge the
Speaker 2: cultural gap between service providers and the growing number of
Speaker 2: Somali clients in Minnesota. They also started small businesses. Today,
Speaker 2: though Somali Americans are in almost every sector of Minnesota's
Speaker 2: workforce and are particularly well represented in health, education, and
Speaker 2: financial service industries. Yeah, I'm just going to leave that
Speaker 2: one there. Perhaps their most conspicuous presence of Minnesota, especially
Speaker 2: in Minneapolis. To that, sentences written weird due to small businesses,
Speaker 2: the myriad of restaurants, coffee shops, and clothing stores that
Speaker 2: tend to be concentrated in certain neighborhoods where Somali's work,
Speaker 2: live and socialize. At the same time, Somali Americans have
Speaker 2: also found their way in local politics. In twenty thirteen,
Speaker 2: Minneapolis elected its first Somali American City Council member Abdi Warsam.
Speaker 2: The next year, Sayad Ali was elected the Minneapolis school Board,
Speaker 2: and last year Ilhan Omar became the first Somali American
Speaker 2: to be elected to a state legislature. Again put a
Speaker 2: pin in her. She's really a horrible, horrible human being.
Speaker 2: Those two factors, the community's entrepreneurship and growing political clout,
Speaker 2: has formed a major part of the narrative about Somali's success,
Speaker 2: especially among those who compare Somalis in Minnesota to those
Speaker 2: in other parts of the world. When officials from Sweden
Speaker 2: started visiting Minnesota, for example, they made a point of connection,
Speaker 2: connecting with entrepreneurs to understand how they managed to establish
Speaker 2: their shops. One of the entrepreneurs they met was Kahem,
Speaker 2: the Afro Deli owner we were talking about earlier, who
Speaker 2: told the group that many in the community go into
Speaker 2: business trying to serve the Somali population in a place
Speaker 2: where it's relatively easy to start a business, which isn't
Speaker 2: the case in Sweden. This is a problem that we
Speaker 2: need to address in our government in order to for
Speaker 2: the Somalis to have freedom to establish businesses like here.
Speaker 2: That's from one of the Swedish Association of Public Housing.
Speaker 2: That was a statement from twenty twelve. But anyway, so
Speaker 2: this episode or this article, it's talking about how the
Speaker 2: Somalis are doing better in Minneapolis, and a lot of
Speaker 2: them are business owners, some got into local politics and
Speaker 2: all finding good, all finding good. Right now, we jump
Speaker 2: to today where Trump is calling for an end to
Speaker 2: the temporary protected status and this is being overly politicized
Speaker 2: right now. Trump arrangement syndrome is a hardcore thing. I
Speaker 2: understand that there's a side of the coin that anything
Speaker 2: that Trump says or does they think is literally the
Speaker 2: word of God, and it has to be because their
Speaker 2: Lord and savior, Donnie T said so. And the other
Speaker 2: side of the aisle thinks that everything he does is
Speaker 2: literally the word of Satan because Donnie T said so.
Speaker 2: There's very few people that are in the gray on
Speaker 2: this one. With that being said, whenever he talks about
Speaker 2: removing the temporary protected status for Somalians in Minnesota, Oh,
Speaker 2: the people have taken to the streets on this one.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it here. This is from mprnews dot org.
Speaker 2: So you already know it's going to be very biased,
Speaker 2: But all right, hundreds packed a Hall of Caramel Mall
Speaker 2: on Sunday to gather in solidarity with the Somali community
Speaker 2: after President Trump called for elimination of a program that
Speaker 2: offers temporary protective status for people from the country. Trump
Speaker 2: dean Minnesota a hub of fraudulent money laundering activity in
Speaker 2: social media posts on Friday, and he alleged without providing proof,
Speaker 2: that Somali gangs were terrorizing the state. I you know, listen,
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of I'm rate proof you
Speaker 2: need to prove that. But the first statement that was
Speaker 2: made about the money laundering schemes that were done by Somemollians.
Speaker 2: That's that's actual, verified, factual information.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the current rates are, smalling. Do
Speaker 1: they even take that into consideration when they are booking people?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that they do black and white
Speaker 1: because that's a whole recently racially charged thing as well,
Speaker 1: But do they even like book Have you ever looked
Speaker 1: at how the categories, how they created the categories. There's
Speaker 1: a history to it, which we're not going to get
Speaker 1: super deep into, but there's a history as to why
Speaker 1: they did the categorizing of people in America from like black, white, Hispanic,
Speaker 1: Native American, all of that. It's a it's a really
Speaker 1: interesting history to like randomly look at people. But I'm
Speaker 1: just curious, do they actually when they arrest people, are
Speaker 1: they putting smallian on their thing or they just well
Speaker 1: now other So I'm I.
Speaker 2: Don't know if there are Samali national who's here on
Speaker 2: protected status. That's gonna it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Show me like seven hundred though, isn't it like seven
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight or seventy or something like that,
Speaker 1: out of the seventy six thousand that are just in
Speaker 1: Minnesota and the thirty to forty thousand that are in Ohio, so.
Speaker 2: Which that's what kills me. Now, all those seventy thousand,
Speaker 2: most of them, the vast majority of them have attained
Speaker 2: the US citizenship.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I mean, if they were born
Speaker 1: in America then.
Speaker 2: So most of them got here in the nineties.
Speaker 1: It's said that there was like twenty six thousands that
Speaker 1: have came here since then, but like the ones that
Speaker 1: were here, I wonder how many people came in the nineties.
Speaker 1: But even so, seration, you at least have kids, so
Speaker 1: like most of them have gained citizenship.
Speaker 2: So, but that's my point. Whenever we hear all these
Speaker 2: other immigrants saying it's so hard to get us citizenship,
Speaker 2: these people did it and started businesses, and they somewhat
Speaker 2: integrated into American society to the point of like, you know,
Speaker 2: embezzlement and tax fraud, but like whatever. You know, some
Speaker 2: people would say that's the American way. Actually, but neither
Speaker 2: here nor there. Even if it is on the lower
Speaker 2: end of the seventy thousand that are here, only seven
Speaker 2: hundred in Minnesota have the protected status. So when Trump
Speaker 2: is talking about removing this, he's talking about sending less
Speaker 2: than a thousand people back to Somalia, and the seventy
Speaker 2: thousand are losing their shit over this right now. But okay, actually,
Speaker 2: while I'm reading this, look up what the crime statistics
Speaker 2: are from Minnesota as a whole and Sea.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just curious how many violent crimes because I
Speaker 2: I could be wrong here, but I have a hard
Speaker 2: time believing that the Somalians are coming to America to
Speaker 2: become drug dealers. You know. I have a feeling that,
Speaker 2: if anything, it's going to be probably violent crimes. If
Speaker 2: they're going to go that route with it. But okay, fine,
Speaker 2: moving on here. So Trump dan Minnesota, like I said,
Speaker 2: a hub of fraudulent money laundering activity, and he also
Speaker 2: alleged that Somali gangs were terrorized in the state. So far,
Speaker 2: seventy seven people. Actually that's an older time. As of now,
Speaker 2: it's seventy eight people have been charged in connection with
Speaker 2: a scheme to defraud a COVID nineteen era child nutrition
Speaker 2: program that was largely through the nonprofit group Feeding Our Future,
Speaker 2: and the federal officials have charged others with alleged misuse
Speaker 2: of state medicaid programs intended to provide autism treatment and
Speaker 2: housing stabilization services. Some people that have been charged and
Speaker 2: convicted in these cases came to Minnesota from Somalia, although
Speaker 2: it's not clear that any of them are on temporary
Speaker 2: protected status. A Trump administration official on Sunday suggested that
Speaker 2: the program's elimination could take time. The call for its
Speaker 2: ending struck fear in members of the Somali community in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Khalid Omar or kalid Omar, it's like dj Khalit's how
Speaker 2: it's spelled. A new one. A community organizer with Isaiah
Speaker 2: I s a I ah all right said the post
Speaker 2: put a target on the backs of Somalis in Minnesota,
Speaker 2: a year after Trump made negative comments before a Bloomington
Speaker 2: mosque was bombed. Okay, I don't believe that that mosque
Speaker 2: was bombed by somebody outside of the Somali community. I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna go ahead and call it. Think that was
Speaker 2: probably internal. But okay, sure uh. He decided to also
Speaker 2: pit our communities against each other and attack our community.
Speaker 2: And what we're saying is that is a distraction. Omar said,
Speaker 2: that's the woman that we were gonna talk about in
Speaker 2: a bit. The reality is that people are struggling. Our
Speaker 2: communities are struggling, and when one of our communities gets attacked,
Speaker 2: the way we react is we come together as Minnesotans,
Speaker 2: have a meal together. I don't know what that had
Speaker 2: to do with anything, elan Omar, but okay. Members of
Speaker 2: the faith community, local elected officials, and others joined a
Speaker 2: local Somalies for a potluck of samboosas fruit plates, mac
Speaker 2: and cheese, and trays of cookies and pies. I honestly
Speaker 2: cannot think of anything more American, more Minnesotan than a potluck,
Speaker 2: said pastor Martha Bardwell of our saviors at Lutheran Church
Speaker 2: in Minneapolis. This is what the event is all about.
Speaker 2: And yet our president would have us believe us non
Speaker 2: Somalies believe that the Somalis are terrorizing our communities. We
Speaker 2: know that's not true, even though we literally just learned
Speaker 2: that they're embezzling billions of dollars to fund Samali terrorist groups.
Speaker 2: But we'll get to all that.
Speaker 1: They actually they don't have as they don't actually have
Speaker 1: it listed categorized by the way, I will say that
Speaker 1: it says in all other counties. So they have pretty
Speaker 1: much average statistics when it comes to different stuff. Their
Speaker 1: most egregious quote unquote simple is simple as salt is
Speaker 1: going to be aggravated as salt is on they but
Speaker 1: their normal are their average for robbery, rape, and murder
Speaker 1: pretty much stayed the same across the board for all counties.
Speaker 2: They had from wind to Wayne. What time frame we're talking.
Speaker 1: From twenty twenty to twenty twenty four, Okay, so they
Speaker 1: went up. So twenty twenty one saw aggravated assault rise
Speaker 1: two thousand, and it's gone down about one thousand since
Speaker 1: then to from twenty twenty one till now or at
Speaker 1: least twenty twenty four from the report. They don't list
Speaker 1: it out by They listed by crimes, they don't list
Speaker 1: it out by who committed the crimes. The biggest things
Speaker 1: that they have is destruction and damaged and vandalizing of property,
Speaker 1: shoplifting motor vehicle stuff, and simple assault. They're averaging around
Speaker 1: twenty four thousand those things. Overall. They had three cases
Speaker 1: of incest. I thought that was really weird.
Speaker 2: Up into and including the state congresswoman.
Speaker 1: I was like, huh, okay, it doesn't.
Speaker 2: That's their culture being insensitive. It's like, do y'all not
Speaker 2: know how these down syndrome babies get might? Okay?
Speaker 1: Anyway, sodomy and sexual assault was an object was thirty
Speaker 1: percent of their sexual Their sexual assault stuff. I thought
Speaker 1: that was really weird. But yeah, they have Intimidation was
Speaker 1: over ten thousand pieces.
Speaker 2: But again that's not inherent to Somalians. Is it?
Speaker 1: Nothing that I can find is actually breaking down who's
Speaker 1: committing these crimes. They just have like a total of
Speaker 1: different crimes, and they laid out how many crimes happened first,
Speaker 1: you know how many crimes. Pretty much they stayed the
Speaker 1: same went They only varied about one thousand up and
Speaker 1: down from the last few years of each other. So overall,
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't really tell if who's who's doing them,
Speaker 1: but that's kind of seems to be normal across the
Speaker 1: board when it comes to states.
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, I don't I've never heard of
Speaker 2: these Somali terror gangs.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of any small gangs terrorizing people. And
Speaker 1: you'd thinking, this day and age, especially with TikTok and
Speaker 1: everything else, we would know you'd hear it if this
Speaker 1: was like an actual thing, Like we hear all about
Speaker 1: what's happening across the pond, So.
Speaker 2: Now we hear about cartel members terrorizing local communities, that
Speaker 2: is the thing that is.
Speaker 1: And definitely illegal immigrants in some locations terrorizing and stuff.
Speaker 1: But sure, that's what I really bothers me. He will
Speaker 1: say like a factual thing, and then he'll throw some
Speaker 1: fucking outlandish bullshit, and it's like, stops doing that. It
Speaker 1: just if you're going to say something, especially when you're
Speaker 1: in a position where every single word is going to
Speaker 1: be scrutinized and fact checked and done all these things,
Speaker 1: why in God's name do you even have a hint
Speaker 1: of a lie. Yeah, why would you even lie? Period?
Speaker 1: You have an entire staff of you have a whole
Speaker 1: White House and the Pentagon that could do any amount
Speaker 1: of research for you in under ten seconds. So why
Speaker 1: the fuck would you say something like that to exaggerate
Speaker 1: this whole thing when you have there are psycho people
Speaker 1: that think Trump is like God's gift to Earth that
Speaker 1: will take that to the extreme max. It's like it's
Speaker 1: just the right and left rhetoric to try and push
Speaker 1: a civil war and to cause so much hate and discontent.
Speaker 1: The more that they keep people divided, the less change
Speaker 1: that we'll actually make for the betment of the American people.
Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with actually giving a shit
Speaker 1: about us is. It's everything to do with using certain
Speaker 1: tactics to keep us divided and keep hate and spewing
Speaker 1: shit that keep going.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Now, with that being said, the statement he made
Speaker 2: about the fraud, Now, the fraud.
Speaker 1: Thing is correct, That's what I'm saying. But the second
Speaker 1: part that, as far as I can find, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen anything about that. Now, if our dear Minnesotian cult
Speaker 1: members have had different experiences where you've seen it, police
Speaker 1: comment and let us know, so that way everyone else
Speaker 1: can know about it.
Speaker 2: That being said, this wasn't a direct quote. It said
Speaker 2: that he alleged this was taking place, but it didn't
Speaker 2: have the quotation marks around it. So again, this is
Speaker 2: a obviously very left leaning article in publication.
Speaker 1: I thought he directly said no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: But but if that's true, if he did allege these things,
Speaker 2: he has to have some backing behind it, because you're right,
Speaker 2: he does.
Speaker 1: Say seeing stuff.
Speaker 2: He says like truth sandwiches right. It's like it's like
Speaker 2: a compliment sandwich. You tell somebody, hey, man, I like
Speaker 2: what you're doing with your hair right now, but your
Speaker 2: fucking attitude is trash. But also, bro, those shoes are nice,
Speaker 2: Like that's not that's he's doing that. When it comes
Speaker 2: to factual information, like they are stealing money and also
Speaker 2: like their gangs are terrorizing their ship, we are rolling
Speaker 2: back the tps and it's like, wait, you don't necessarily
Speaker 2: belong there, my boy.
Speaker 1: You're not actually explaining it to people, and people are
Speaker 1: getting confused, and then you have biased media happening and
Speaker 1: not know, it's so hard to find the actual facts
Speaker 1: because everything is censored. Everything is being shifted through AI.
Speaker 1: So it's just causing more hate and discontent within America
Speaker 1: and causing more issues because then you know, we already
Speaker 1: have the Ice situation that's happening in a lot of places,
Speaker 1: that's going poorly, that's going good. It just depends on
Speaker 1: what you're hearing, what news you're seeing, blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and everyone has different polarized opinions of that. Then you
Speaker 1: have this situation where clearly American tax dollars are being
Speaker 1: funded funding these people's lavish lifestyles, and we'll get to
Speaker 1: them going back to funding terrorist groups, which pisses everyone
Speaker 1: the fuck off. And then you're now saying that like, hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, just a little side note, m they're
Speaker 1: actually terrorizing American people. So now you're just painting a
Speaker 1: target on the Somalian groups that, like I bet you
Speaker 1: ten to one, most of these people are just here
Speaker 1: living their lives, like the rest of the immigrants that
Speaker 1: have been here, that all of us originated and kind
Speaker 1: of came here from different areas. So why paint that
Speaker 1: target unless something severely atrocious is happening like it, I
Speaker 1: just I don't agree with it.
Speaker 2: I'm with you now continuing here, It says Somali was
Speaker 2: first added as a Temporary Protected Status designated country in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety one, after civil war broke out there. That
Speaker 2: status has been extended more than two dozen times as
Speaker 2: US officials found that it was too dangerous for Somalis
Speaker 2: to in the United States to return to the war
Speaker 2: torn East African nation, and in the latest extension is
Speaker 2: set to run through March. That was March of well, yeah,
Speaker 2: this article was. Yeah, there's a current article from November
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. The Trump and administration has sought to
Speaker 2: roll back temporary protected status for migrants from other countries too.
Speaker 2: Hundreds of thousands of people in the US from Venezuela
Speaker 2: and Haiti who had temporary protected status have been affected.
Speaker 2: Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison said he'd moved to sue
Speaker 2: if the Trump administration moves ahead to eliminate protected status
Speaker 2: for Somali migrants in Minnesota. Now that being set, I'm
Speaker 2: actually gonna go ahead and share the screen on this
Speaker 2: article right here, and let's dive into this one together.
Speaker 2: This is from Fox nine Federal investigation into Minnesota's terrorist fraud,
Speaker 2: called for by gd gop I don't know why they
Speaker 2: put terrorists in quotes. The organization that this is funding
Speaker 2: is an actual, absolutely understood, known terrorist organization that's an
Speaker 2: al Qaeda affiliate. We'll get to Al Shabab here in
Speaker 2: a bit, but let's read in here. It says Minnesota
Speaker 2: fraud Investigation request what we know? A letter co signed
Speaker 2: by Representatives Tom Emmer, Michelle Fischbach and Brad Feinstein, and
Speaker 2: p Stallber Okay urge US attorney Rosen to conduct an
Speaker 2: open investigation into reports that Minnesota taxpayer dollars are ending
Speaker 2: up in the hands of Al Shabab terris network in Somalia.
Speaker 2: More specifically, the letter says that it is alleged that
Speaker 2: Minnesota's Somali community has been sending millions back to Somalia
Speaker 2: through an informal money tracking scheme or trafficking scheme. The
Speaker 2: letter cites a report from the right leaning think tank
Speaker 2: Manhattan Institute. This is an expost from Tom Emmer, basically
Speaker 2: reinstating what I had just mentioned. Local GOP members echoed
Speaker 2: the same sentiment in a statement co signed by Minnesota
Speaker 2: House of Representative Speaker Lisa Dmouth House Republican floor leader
Speaker 2: Harry Niska and a group of House Republicans that called
Speaker 2: for a similar investigation direct quote here. The sprawling fraud
Speaker 2: that has become endemic under Governor Walls's failed leadership is
Speaker 2: troubling enough for Minnesota taxpayers. The notion that these dollars
Speaker 2: could be flowing to foreign terrorist organizations adds a truly disturbing,
Speaker 2: an urgent dimension. For the record, Yeah, Walls as in
Speaker 2: Tim Walls, as in Kamala Harris's running mate. For anybody
Speaker 2: that like forgot that that guy existed, he's the governor
Speaker 2: of the state that's got this kind of fraud going in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like, wait, who's this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's all Walls, who is like trying to
Speaker 2: seem like America's t ball coach, Like that's the kind
Speaker 2: of old man that he seems. But he's a veteran
Speaker 2: kind of kind of uh yeah, he's he's about as
Speaker 2: wonderbred retard as they come. And somehow the Democratic Party
Speaker 2: thought that he was a really good running mate to
Speaker 2: go along with old whore herself. So it's it's crazy,
Speaker 2: but whatever. Yeah, he's the governor of the state where
Speaker 2: the Somalis are embezzling millions to al Shabab. Continuing here,
Speaker 2: it says, if these allegations are confirmed, immediate action must
Speaker 2: be taken at both the state and federal level to
Speaker 2: crack down on illicit remittances and other any other payments
Speaker 2: making their way to terrorist groups. We are asking the
Speaker 2: DOJ to immediately launch an investigation into these claims so
Speaker 2: Minnesotans can have clarity as soon as possible. The statement read,
Speaker 2: in part all right, so now we got a little
Speaker 2: vigia that's gonna give us a little bit of a
Speaker 2: breakdown of the situation. Let's learn together.
Speaker 5: Christy no Mean is coming to Minneapolis tomorrow. This happening
Speaker 5: on the heels of President Trump announcing he will end
Speaker 5: temporary protected status for Somali's in Minnesota. Under this initiative,
Speaker 5: immigrants who can't return to their home country safely due
Speaker 5: to war or natural disasters are allowed to stay.
Speaker 2: In the US.
Speaker 5: Fox nine's Leon Purpose joins us now from the newsroom tonight,
Speaker 5: Leon break it all down for us.
Speaker 1: What does all of this mean, Karen?
Speaker 6: President Trump's true social posts doesn't do anything legally when
Speaker 6: talking about temporary protected status in order to in order
Speaker 6: for it to end, it would have to come from
Speaker 6: the Secretary of Homeland Security, Christy Nome. Friday night, President
Speaker 6: Donald Trump posted on Truth Social I am as President
Speaker 6: of the United States here by terminating effective immediately, the
Speaker 6: temporary protected status for Somalis in Minnesota. It calls some
Speaker 6: people to think Trump is trying to score political points
Speaker 6: with his base.
Speaker 3: I think this is a political act. We believe it
Speaker 3: is fabricated and created for the for the We think
Speaker 3: actually for the single purpose to reign in the young
Speaker 3: conservatives in this country.
Speaker 6: So we asked a lawyer, does a Truth Social post
Speaker 6: or an executive order mean an end to temporary protected
Speaker 6: status for Somalis.
Speaker 7: It's the Secretary of Homeland Security determining there's a reason
Speaker 7: for temporary protected status from that country.
Speaker 6: According to Michelle Garnett Mackenzie, there are seven hundred people
Speaker 6: in the country who have protected status from Somalia, about
Speaker 6: five hundred of those are living in Minnesota, and Trump's
Speaker 6: post he said he is terminating protected status effective in immediately. However,
Speaker 6: when temporary status is revoked, according to Michelle, federal law
Speaker 6: states it can't take effect earlier than sixty days after
Speaker 6: the publication of that notice, and it has to come
Speaker 6: from the Secretary of Homeland Security in order to get
Speaker 6: protective status.
Speaker 2: It's a process.
Speaker 7: Each applicant has to file paperwork, pay a filing fee,
Speaker 7: pass a background check, and have their application adjudicated every
Speaker 7: twelve or eighteen months to remain in temporary protected status.
Speaker 6: Now, if someone is no longer eligible for protected status,
Speaker 6: it's denied and the deportation proceedings begin. And Trump's truth
Speaker 6: social posts he specifically says he is ending temporary protected
Speaker 6: status for Somalis in Minnesota. If the program ended, it
Speaker 6: would be for the whole country. And again, we're expecting
Speaker 6: the Secretary of Homeland Security here in the Twin Cities tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Okay, so just roll on the same page. They are
Speaker 2: arguing if the truth social post, a social media post
Speaker 2: is legal precedence to make this happen, rather than the
Speaker 2: fact that if this was repealed, seven hundred people is
Speaker 2: what we're talking about here, five hundred them Minnesota. So
Speaker 2: this mass turnout for these people that are shouting and
Speaker 2: raving about the people in Minnesota and all this this
Speaker 2: is a crime against Minnesotans. It's about five hundred people.
Speaker 1: I mean, did any of those people, though, commit crimes.
Speaker 1: Did any of those people do anything to warrant them
Speaker 1: being shipped back to a war torn country right now?
Speaker 1: I don't know, And that's kind of a serious question
Speaker 1: when it comes to you just shipping them off, Like
Speaker 1: if they didn't do anything, then why are they being punished?
Speaker 2: So let's read in here. This is the direct quote
Speaker 2: talking about the gangs and terrorizing.
Speaker 1: I did just find gangs though, by the way, it's
Speaker 1: the Smaali Outlaws is a street gang that was formed
Speaker 1: by a smally American use in Minnesota and Saint Paul area.
Speaker 1: Their criminal activities mainly include drug trafficking and human trafficking.
Speaker 1: They have like specific territories. It's been around since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: They have like three rival gangs as well. But the
Speaker 1: gang is notorious in transporting underage females for prostitution across
Speaker 1: state lines.
Speaker 2: So they are that isang.
Speaker 1: There is a SMALLI gang. There is three groups though
Speaker 1: that are rivals that I don't know if they're Somalian specifically,
Speaker 1: they don't listenimize it, but hot Boys mad to have
Speaker 1: bubon I don't know, with an attitude and sixteen twenty
Speaker 1: seven boys are the three rival gangs. So they have
Speaker 1: American they have, Yeah, they have gotten in trouble a
Speaker 1: good bit for I guess trafficking underage girls and drug
Speaker 1: related crimes in their territories. So there is technically a
Speaker 1: Somalian gang that has been around since twenty nineteen. But
Speaker 1: from what I can tell, I haven't actually found any
Speaker 1: direct things that are saying that they're terrorizing the community. Obviously,
Speaker 1: drug trafficking and sex trafficking is a thing across the
Speaker 1: entire country, right, It's not just in one location, and
Speaker 1: it's done by many, many, many groups here and by
Speaker 1: just random individuals. So that's in and of itself a
Speaker 1: whole nother conversation. But I mean, let everyone know I
Speaker 1: found something.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if the seven hundred people are
Speaker 2: affiliates of these criminal organizations or if they have been
Speaker 2: in the mix as far as the fraud scandal has
Speaker 2: been conserned, like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that needs to be I think that should
Speaker 1: be the point in which they should be background checked,
Speaker 1: They should be you know, verified, If they haven't done anything,
Speaker 1: then no, I don't agree with sending them back over.
Speaker 1: I agree with taking the people that are actually doing
Speaker 1: things here or have any kind of connections whatsoever or
Speaker 1: linked to any of these gangs, group them up and
Speaker 1: ship their asses back over there. But if these people
Speaker 1: sought refugee because they're literally starving to death or fleeing
Speaker 1: what's happening from over there, and they're just normal people
Speaker 1: trying to live, then no, I don't agree with sending
Speaker 1: them back.
Speaker 2: It's case by case, right, But this is case by case.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. We should go case by case
Speaker 1: of the seven hundred people who should be allowed to
Speaker 1: stay here. But if there is a large portion of
Speaker 1: these people that are just doing trash shit in that area,
Speaker 1: round them fucker's up and send them back.
Speaker 2: But that's the problem when it comes to law, it
Speaker 2: can't be case by case. You have to do blanket
Speaker 2: policies because that's the only way the law happens, and
Speaker 2: you have to start the process somewhere, right. I agree
Speaker 2: that we should be taking anybody who's not an American
Speaker 2: national who is committing crimes and send them back to
Speaker 2: wherever they come from. Agreed. But that's not something you
Speaker 2: can just pin in and sign in and that toada
Speaker 2: we're in. That's happening now boom, because every time he
Speaker 2: does that, he's later really hitler. So you have to
Speaker 2: at least start the ball rolling somewhere pulling back the
Speaker 2: protective status. I don't necessar farely agree with it. I
Speaker 2: also don't necessarily disagree with it either.
Speaker 1: Does that play into the ones that have been here
Speaker 1: for the last two decades.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about that. Let's read more into it here,
Speaker 2: it says, so the dig deeper. The announcement comes after
Speaker 2: President Trump posted on Friday that he would seek to
Speaker 2: in the Temporary Protective Status program for Somalis in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Posting on truth Social he said under Governor Walls, Minnesota
Speaker 2: has become a hub for fraudulent activities. This is a
Speaker 2: direct quote from Trump. Somali gangs are terrorizing the people
Speaker 2: of that great state, and billions of dollars are missing.
Speaker 2: Send them back to where they come from. It's over,
Speaker 2: he wrote. Now the backstory here. The National TPS program
Speaker 2: is granted by the US Department Homeland Security to immigrants
Speaker 2: of countries who cannot return home safely due to conditions
Speaker 2: like civil war, natural disaster. A total of seventeen countries
Speaker 2: are currently applicable for that designation. Eligibility for the program
Speaker 2: is tied to each specific country designation, and Minnesota's program
Speaker 2: fall under DHS's oversight. Minnesota's TPS program currently has an
Speaker 2: existing extension through March to twenty twenty six for refugees
Speaker 2: from Somalia. Estimates show that roughly seven hundred people in
Speaker 2: the United States with protected STATS from Somalia, with approximately
Speaker 2: five hundred residing in Minnesota. Now, let's talk about the
Speaker 2: fraud big picture view. In recent years, Minnesota has dealt
Speaker 2: with massive fraud, most notably the Feeding our Children or
Speaker 2: few excuse me, Feeding our Future scheme that bezzled more
Speaker 2: than two hundred and fifty million dollars in the COVID
Speaker 2: nineteen relief funds. Of the seventy eight people that have
Speaker 2: been charged so far, fifty six have pled guilty to
Speaker 2: their role in the scheme. On the other side, members
Speaker 2: of the Somali community gathered in Minnesota on Sunday to
Speaker 2: oppose the decision. I think it's a political act. Seventy
Speaker 2: eight people and fifty six of them.
Speaker 1: How is that a political act? If they committed a
Speaker 1: crime and they were found to be guilty, and they
Speaker 1: even agreed that they're guilty. How is that an act.
Speaker 2: Because it's it's literally from Trump, so it must be
Speaker 2: for something.
Speaker 1: Trump's language, though, is definitely definitely a thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: he shouldn't be saying specific things, but that that goes
Speaker 1: for many of his posts that are just completely outlinagh
Speaker 1: that cause more issues than they do, Like he could
Speaker 1: be doing so many positive things, and the way that
Speaker 1: he's wording it could be more positive or at least like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do this.
Speaker 2: Nah.
Speaker 1: You know, he don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2: He doesn't nor has he ever to be honest with you.
Speaker 2: Trump don't be given a fuck, that's for sure. Now,
Speaker 2: let's talk more about the whole Minnesota conversation when it
Speaker 2: comes to all uh ilhan Omar, because boy oh boy,
Speaker 2: as they're talking about these Somalis that set up shop
Speaker 2: in Minnesota and they you know, they're thriving, it's a
Speaker 2: thriving community, they're American, they're Minnsaulta and all of these things.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about one of these politicians that has gone
Speaker 2: out of their ways to real spit in the face
Speaker 2: of the American way of life, just outright and also
Speaker 2: has used the system to her advantage in very, very disgusting. Ways,
Speaker 2: let's get into it here. This is actually a post
Speaker 2: from the Minnesota House of Representatives House dot MN dot
Speaker 2: gov if anybody wants to look this up. Divorce diversion
Speaker 2: regarding Congressional or Congresswoman il Han Omar. This was posted
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, I might add, So let's get into
Speaker 2: it here from Saint Paul. On Friday, Congresswoman il Han
Speaker 2: Omar filed for divorce from her husband, Ahmedhersey. In twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: a Representative Omar filed from divorce from her husband, Amad Ilmen.
Speaker 2: So that's this two now, okay. In twenty eighteen, Representative
Speaker 2: Omar legally married Amad Hersey. Now in twenty nineteen, Omar
Speaker 2: is filing for divorce from mister Hersey. Representative Steve Draskowski
Speaker 2: Draskowski Jesus Pollock okay, reacted to the most recent news,
Speaker 2: saying this is the most recent development in an attempt
Speaker 2: by Representative Omar to subvert the truth regarding her multiple
Speaker 2: violations of the law, which include perjury and tax fraud. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're going there here, Drazowski continued. This story isn't about
Speaker 2: the personal life of a politician. This story is about
Speaker 2: a politician who uses her relationships to cover up her
Speaker 2: misdeeds and disregard for the law. Congresswoman Omar knows that
Speaker 2: the truth reveals too much about her wrongdoings. As such,
Speaker 2: you can always expect Representative Omar's words and truth to
Speaker 2: be one hundred and eight degrees apart. Draskowski, I don't
Speaker 2: even know if I'm pronouncing it right, doesn't matter, has
Speaker 2: consistently called out the media of the Twin Cities for
Speaker 2: their refusal to follow the facts and ask basic questions
Speaker 2: regarding this congresswoman. He said, it's time for the mainstream
Speaker 2: media to get serious enough. With the softball interviews and
Speaker 2: glittering profiles. Omar always uses the the excuse it's personal
Speaker 2: as a diversion to hide the facts about her life,
Speaker 2: which reveal her to be a fraud. If Omar does
Speaker 2: tell the truth, then the media have a responsibility to
Speaker 2: find the truth. Only she only married mister Hersey to
Speaker 2: cover up the fact that she married her brother, mister Elmy. Yes,
Speaker 2: good cult members. That is the thing we've talked about
Speaker 2: on the show before, but like.
Speaker 1: Other as an incest or brother as in using him
Speaker 1: for status to get citizenship.
Speaker 2: Like both, like both, Raven Okay, like both.
Speaker 1: But that's their culture, their culture, yep.
Speaker 2: Which is not a thing that's an American culture. So
Speaker 2: you know, doesn't mean we have to abide by that
Speaker 2: bullshit anyway, moving on here.
Speaker 1: People in Bama might might argue otherwise.
Speaker 2: I mean, you say what you want, right, there are.
Speaker 1: Certain stages no no, no cult members.
Speaker 2: As much as I want to push back, he as
Speaker 2: far as incest is concerned, Bama, Yeah, y'all get a
Speaker 2: bad rep on that, But it was only a few
Speaker 2: years ago where y'all had a law passed to say
Speaker 2: that bast reality was finally illegal in your state, and
Speaker 2: that only passed by two votes out of nine.
Speaker 1: Ooh on the rough one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not even Bama.
Speaker 1: That's the worst.
Speaker 8: So they actually had that the most Incest it's an
Speaker 8: appolation in it. Yeah, yes, And they had that whole
Speaker 8: episode of that whole show about the.
Speaker 1: Most Incest family and all their fucked up stuff they had,
Speaker 1: and like they were just like to lygal with it.
Speaker 1: So to be fair, there's worst places there is.
Speaker 2: But again, she's doing this to hide her fraud. Right,
Speaker 2: She only married her brother to get legal status in
Speaker 2: the United States allegedly quote unquote, Now they'd be fucking
Speaker 2: But besides that, once she got her bullshit legal status
Speaker 2: in America, she ran for Paula and all these things.
Speaker 2: And then let's also keep in mind, in addition to
Speaker 2: all this, Representative Omar paid two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars to her new boyfriend, Tim Meanett out of her
Speaker 2: campaign account. This entire situation, this entire situation is nothing
Speaker 2: more than wholesale corruption. That's from Representative Drakowski. He also concluded, nevertheless,
Speaker 2: I know a Minnesota politician who could stand for truth
Speaker 2: and the rule of law, Congressman Dean Phillips. As a
Speaker 2: member of the US House Committee on Ethics, Congressman Phillips
Speaker 2: is uniquely placed to examine the perjury, tax fraud, and
Speaker 2: other crimes committed by Representative Omar. However, Congressman Phillips remains
Speaker 2: deeply committed to partisanship and lacks the political courage to
Speaker 2: get the answers the people deserve. So, you know, that's
Speaker 2: just from that one. But let's continue here. This is
Speaker 2: from live mint dot com. This is from This is
Speaker 2: from them to talk about how Charlie Kirk even brought
Speaker 2: up the fact that she married her brother to gain citizenship.
Speaker 2: Trump attacks ilan Omar over the Charlie Kirker marks, and
Speaker 2: the controversy is explained. This is from September of this year.
Speaker 2: President Trump blasts a Democratic representative, elan Omar of Minnesota
Speaker 2: on Thursday, ripping her birth country Somalia and questioning her
Speaker 2: citizenship as well he should. In a post on x,
Speaker 2: Trump said, ilan Omar's country of Somalia is plagued by
Speaker 2: a lack of central government control, persistent poverty, hunger, resurgent terrorism, piracy,
Speaker 2: decades of civil war, corruption, and pervasive violence. For the record,
Speaker 2: no lies detected thus far, Yeah, there's none. Seventy percent
Speaker 2: of the population lives in extreme poverty and widespread food insecurity.
Speaker 2: Somalia is consistently ranked among the world's most corrupt countries,
Speaker 2: including bribery, embezzlement, and dysfunctional government. Again, no lies detected
Speaker 2: thus far. Down e tea. All of this, and ilan
Speaker 2: Omar tells us how to run America. All that's going
Speaker 2: on in her country. She's here illegally, and she's got
Speaker 2: the fucking stones to tell us how to run America.
Speaker 1: That's one thing. I don't believe that people that weren't
Speaker 1: born and raised in America, at least for the last
Speaker 1: like two generations. I mean at least the generation that
Speaker 1: they're born into and raised here. I just really don't
Speaker 1: think that they should be allowed to be in our
Speaker 1: politics at all, because you get fed so many things
Speaker 1: outside of this country. In your own home countries, You're
Speaker 1: gonna have your own experiences and your own biases and
Speaker 1: the way that your culture handles things, and all of
Speaker 1: these things that will bleed into how you handle this culture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this country, and I'm not saying that, you know, we
Speaker 1: are a mixing pot of people, but that's one thing
Speaker 1: to be running for certain things, but to be in
Speaker 1: that high of politics, and then for her to go
Speaker 1: on Mike and be like, I'm a Somalian first, and
Speaker 1: Somalia always first, and then I'll be giving any allegiance
Speaker 1: to America. I mean that whole And then they even
Speaker 1: had that background camera in the I don't know where
Speaker 1: it was in the room with a whole bunch of them,
Speaker 1: and they were all talking about how they're gonna make
Speaker 1: this Somalia. You know, it's Smaalian nation and Somalian way
Speaker 1: and all of this stuff, and they're they're praising that,
Speaker 1: and it's like.
Speaker 2: Then go the fuck back to Somalia if you love
Speaker 2: it so much.
Speaker 1: That's but they can't win, they can't go against the
Speaker 1: terrorist groups and they can't get a foothold, so they're
Speaker 1: going to try to shift it to here. But that's
Speaker 1: they're just.
Speaker 2: Why would you want to make this an open source
Speaker 2: for terrorists to come take over like they did your
Speaker 2: home country. This makes no sense to me.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense about it's just about being Muslim.
Speaker 2: But it really is, it really is.
Speaker 1: It really has nothing to do with I think being
Speaker 1: in Somalian. I think this has to do with the
Speaker 1: religious aspect, especially the different sectors of you know, types
Speaker 1: of Muslims that are there. There's various types, and the
Speaker 1: more extreme ones are the ones that are wanting to
Speaker 1: push this on every There are good Muslims that just
Speaker 1: want to practice their religion and they just want to
Speaker 1: be peaceful and they just you know, you do you
Speaker 1: we do us cool, cool, cool. But the extremists are
Speaker 1: gathering there are gaining forces, and they are bleeding into everything.
Speaker 1: And honestly, the Muslims that don't convert to that are
Speaker 1: being tortured and killed.
Speaker 2: As well by Muslims.
Speaker 1: By Muslims. Yeah, Isis is a great example. They they
Speaker 1: will fuck people up left and right if they don't
Speaker 1: convert into their ideology, so that all boils down to religion.
Speaker 2: We just talked about this in Nigeria not too terrible
Speaker 2: long ago. Yeah, there's a Christian genocide going on, yes,
Speaker 2: but there was also moderate Muslims that were killed alongside
Speaker 2: the Christians because they weren't Muslim enough for the terrorist groups.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a lot of the people too, though. When
Speaker 1: we pulled out of Afghanistan and Iraq, they were killed
Speaker 1: too because they helped Americans, or they looked more modern,
Speaker 1: or they adopted modern ideology, and they they more or
Speaker 1: less shifted in their ways. Some of these extremist groups
Speaker 1: are all about the old ways and the ways of
Speaker 1: doing things that they feel is the way it's right.
Speaker 1: And if you don't convert, then you die as well.
Speaker 1: So it's not just Muslims wanting to take over Every
Speaker 1: Muslim is horrible. That is not the same conversation, right,
Speaker 1: But there is a lot to be said that Muslims
Speaker 1: are sweeping the world right now and having a lot
Speaker 1: of issues that are happening in various countries.
Speaker 2: It's called the global into fada. We're going to get
Speaker 2: more into that one here in a bit. But anyway
Speaker 2: to circle back to your point that you made, I
Speaker 2: don't have a problem with the first generation. Like if
Speaker 2: you were born on US soil and you run for politics,
Speaker 2: I'm good with that personally, right because then you are
Speaker 2: brought up in that household that is trying to hold
Speaker 2: still to that culture of where you come from, and
Speaker 2: you will be a representation of that culture in America.
Speaker 2: I got no problems with this. I don't, but to
Speaker 2: be honest with you, if I had it my way,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't be allowed to serve in any kind of
Speaker 2: political spectrum unless you've served your nation. That's just me,
Speaker 2: and I know I mean as if.
Speaker 1: I think all of them should be should at least
Speaker 1: four years in the military in some type.
Speaker 2: Not even military. I have said this on the show
Speaker 2: quite a few times. I have no problem if you
Speaker 2: have military, police officer, firefighter, first responders. Hell, I'll even
Speaker 2: put certain community outreach programs because there's like, not to
Speaker 2: go too far off of a tangent on this one,
Speaker 2: but we could hypothetically start something along the lines of, like, uh,
Speaker 2: what's it called the peace people? Not Green Peace? What's
Speaker 2: it called the peace Corps?
Speaker 1: The peace Corps?
Speaker 2: Hear me out. If we were to have an American based,
Speaker 2: buy America for America peace Corps, where you dedicate four
Speaker 2: years of your life, not in some sort of a
Speaker 2: combat role or something where you're carrying a weapon or
Speaker 2: going into harm's way. If you were to dedicate four
Speaker 2: years of your life literally to bettering your community, you
Speaker 2: get paid, daw, just like all the other public servants
Speaker 2: get paid. I would take that as you serving your
Speaker 2: community in whatever way is possible, and then you would
Speaker 2: earn your right to vote. You would earn your right
Speaker 2: to be in the political spectrum in any way, shape
Speaker 2: or form that is. It blows my mind that any
Speaker 2: Joe Blow that gets enough votes can be somebody in DC.
Speaker 2: Fuck that, what is that person done to serve their nation? Actually,
Speaker 2: but I know that people think that I'm some sort
Speaker 2: of a crazy bigot for saying this. I don't know,
Speaker 2: that's just me. You ever seen Starship Troopers how they're
Speaker 2: like trying to do something to earn citizenship. I feel
Speaker 2: like we should have something akin to that. I feel
Speaker 2: like that would actually go a lot better. And I've
Speaker 2: even had this conversation with people that were.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, you're just that would get kind of money
Speaker 1: depending on what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to serve honorably. I should mention that too.
Speaker 1: That's a hard thing I do. I do feel like
Speaker 1: we should have at least is it China that does
Speaker 1: two years?
Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't want force subscription either, because because
Speaker 2: then you get the worst of the worst as well
Speaker 2: as the best of the best, and the bad outweigh
Speaker 2: the good on that one.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, at least having some type of uh
Speaker 1: forced public service, you know, to better our country. At
Speaker 1: least some kind of motivational I mean, hell, it could
Speaker 1: even be I don't know, picking up trash, like and
Speaker 1: we're not nothing crazy.
Speaker 2: But like you, if it's forced, then that drags down
Speaker 2: everybody else. Yeah, that's that's my only issue with it.
Speaker 2: I hear you.
Speaker 1: Most people aren't going to volunteer for bettering your country,
Speaker 1: so it's just.
Speaker 2: And those people don't get a right to vote.
Speaker 1: That is not not ever going to be a thing here.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I know, because I've also had that conversation
Speaker 2: where It's like, well, if they're still taxing me, I
Speaker 2: should vote. No, the fuck you don't. Tax have been
Speaker 2: around since the beginning of time, even when the Kings
Speaker 2: were in charge. That is your payment for being allowed
Speaker 2: to live on this land. The fuck out of here.
Speaker 2: Everybody pays taxes. And then I was like, I heard
Speaker 2: somebody else say, well, then you're just killing the black vote,
Speaker 2: like right off the rip, and I'm like, brother, go
Speaker 2: to any v A clinic and tell me that the
Speaker 2: black vote actually wouldn't have a louder voice if what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about was enacted. I'm just gonna throw it
Speaker 2: out here, but it Yeah, it actually would put things
Speaker 2: more on an even keel. Minorities and the majorities and
Speaker 2: everything else. If you had to serve your community or
Speaker 2: your state or your country to have your voice be
Speaker 2: heard in a public space, this would make it so
Speaker 2: fair and balance that it would be revolutionary. But yeah, no,
Speaker 2: to your point, it's never gonna happen because that's just
Speaker 2: not how people do things. Anyway. Anyway, getting back.
Speaker 1: To you go back to get an old omar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh. Anyway, so he says, wasn't she the
Speaker 2: one that made this is Trump? Wasn't she the one
Speaker 2: that married her brother in order to gain citizenship? What
Speaker 2: scum we have in our country telling us what to
Speaker 2: do and how to do it? Thank you for your
Speaker 2: attention on this matter. Make America great again? Uh? What
Speaker 2: Trump's remarks about Representative Elan Omar came as the House
Speaker 2: of Representative sought to censor her, overcome and she made
Speaker 2: regarding the day of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, which also, yeah,
Speaker 2: she really does need to be removed from her position,
Speaker 2: but either way it goes. Omar, an immigrant who criticized
Speaker 2: Kirk's views on gun ownership and race relations in the
Speaker 2: aftermath of George Floyd's death, was targeted by GOP representatives
Speaker 2: Nancy Mace of South Carolina, who argue that Omar should
Speaker 2: be deported to Somalia. I agree. Omar was born in
Speaker 2: Somalia and became a US citizen in two thousand. The
Speaker 2: two hundred and fourteen to two hundred and thirteen roll
Speaker 2: Call shelved a resolution from GOP Nancy Mace of South
Speaker 2: Carolina to censor her. So they shelved it. Basically they
Speaker 2: were trying to censor her, and it was split damn
Speaker 2: near down the middle, so it got shelved and have
Speaker 2: her removed from two House committees, Education, Workforce and Budget. Okay,
Speaker 2: the two have feuded viciously on social media. The two
Speaker 2: have engaged in a bitter feud on social media, with
Speaker 2: Mace accusing Omar pushing harmful rhetoric, while Omar has countered
Speaker 2: by accusing Mas of spreading false narratives and to fundraise
Speaker 2: and further her goober national ambitions. That's a weird word there, Omar.
Speaker 2: The influence of Charlie Kirk, both personally and politically, is
Speaker 2: deeply felt on Capitol Hill, with figures like Mike Johnson
Speaker 2: counting him as a friend. In the week's following Kirk's assassination,
Speaker 2: his memory has been honored through various tributes both large
Speaker 2: and small. Yeah, that was to do. Let's see, it's
Speaker 2: not the first time Congress has taken action against Omar
Speaker 2: or other lawmakers. In twenty twenty three, Omar was removed
Speaker 2: from her position on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, marking
Speaker 2: a shift in how censors and punishments are handed down
Speaker 2: in Congress. When Nancy Mace introduced a resolution to censer Omar.
Speaker 2: Democratic Representative Greg Kasser of Texas quickly responded with a
Speaker 2: counter effort to censor Corey Mills, or a Republican from Florida,
Speaker 2: over allegations related to his personal and professional conduct. Mills
Speaker 2: was one of four Republicans who sided with Democrats to
Speaker 2: reject the resolution against Omar. So literally, your boy as
Speaker 2: a as a retort, we should silence Omar, a Republican
Speaker 2: said that about a Democrat. So a Democrats like, we
Speaker 2: should silence your boy Mills. He's doing that to a
Speaker 2: Republicans even though he literally just sided with y'all about
Speaker 2: this whole situation.
Speaker 1: So, you know, love how dumb they are. They really are.
Speaker 1: Republicans are just as stupid. Both sides are dumb. A
Speaker 1: lot of the times they are.
Speaker 2: It's a pendulum swing. As of right now, the Democrats
Speaker 2: are looking way more retarded. But I mean, give it
Speaker 2: another couple of years, Republicans are going to look like
Speaker 2: the idiots again, like on on mass more.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, it just goes back and forth
Speaker 1: and back and forth. I will say, uh, what's it,
Speaker 1: Bill Carson? Now Bill Maher, the black the black doctor.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah right, yeah? Is it a he ran for president?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I voted for I wanted him or before he
Speaker 1: pulled out, I was so dead set on voting for him.
Speaker 1: I wanted him so bad. But he actually roasted AOC
Speaker 1: in a live public form and it was fantastic. But she, oh, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I just do you want to talk about something?
Speaker 2: I just like, Yes, I liked him, but also I
Speaker 2: didn't know if he had the backbone to be president.
Speaker 1: He does. He does if you listen to him, actually,
Speaker 1: but a lot of people don't actually listen to the
Speaker 1: live proceedings. He is very direct, very very vicious, but
Speaker 1: in a very politically polite way. But he definitely gets
Speaker 1: his point across. I want him to run so badly
Speaker 1: because I love him.
Speaker 2: But I like him a lot. I do. I just
Speaker 2: I don't know actually believe it or not. I didn't
Speaker 2: even vote for Trump. I voted for the libertarian candidate
Speaker 2: because I liked her platform a whole lot more at
Speaker 2: that moment. Well, girl with the no doctor Jorgensen, she
Speaker 2: she didn't.
Speaker 1: I voted libertarian before too. Yeah, to be a fair,
Speaker 1: There's been a couple of people that I've really wanted
Speaker 1: that I knew, honestly, you weren't gonna win. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't justify voting for the candidates that are on
Speaker 1: like the docket at the moment, that are slated to
Speaker 1: win potentially. I'm like, I want to vote for somebody
Speaker 1: that I actually agree with.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So this was Trump's first run, and people are, well,
Speaker 2: you didn't like Trump, and it's like, it's not that
Speaker 2: I didn't like him, I liked her more and I
Speaker 2: and people think that I'm crazy for this. I believe
Speaker 2: that you should vote where your morals tell you to vote,
Speaker 2: not just where your party affiliates are, because well.
Speaker 1: People were scared though. I think people were scared voting, voting.
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't want one one party in versus
Speaker 1: the other, and so they voted for whatever candidate they
Speaker 1: felt like was gonna get it.
Speaker 2: So but that's what kills me. It's like, well, there's
Speaker 2: never gonna be a third party candidate that actually has
Speaker 2: a chance. Well not with that fucking attitude.
Speaker 1: There has been a couple in the last you know, god,
Speaker 1: how many I don't even remember. I'm even eighteen. There's
Speaker 1: been a few that I actually really liked and I voted.
Speaker 1: I went on my way to vote for them specifically
Speaker 1: because I'm like, no, I just would rather agree with it.
Speaker 1: There should be. I honestly wish there was a third
Speaker 1: party president because I feel that we would have a
Speaker 1: better I feel like people at first would be pissed,
Speaker 1: but then once things started moving in a positive direction,
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the people in the country,
Speaker 1: a lot of our issues would be silenced or not silence,
Speaker 1: but go down.
Speaker 2: So hopefully, right, that's hopefully that's the idea. But then
Speaker 2: you have what was it the last independent candidate that
Speaker 2: got It wasn't like nine percent. It was something where
Speaker 2: they got like a decent shot and both sides.
Speaker 1: A lady with the glasses, it's.
Speaker 2: That wasn't that wasn't it was independent though, Oh okay,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember there was, because you always have
Speaker 2: like the great that was always one out ran Paul.
Speaker 2: I know he had a decent run at one point
Speaker 2: in time. But then like they see them as a threat,
Speaker 2: and by day, I mean both Republicans and Democrats see
Speaker 2: any third party candidate.
Speaker 1: As a threat after them so hard.
Speaker 2: Because they're taking votes away from both and so they
Speaker 2: see it as like it's a double negative. So they'll
Speaker 2: combine forces just to shit on the third option. And
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, I understand why your tactics tell you
Speaker 2: that this is the right way. But for the American people,
Speaker 2: if this person seems like a way better option, why
Speaker 2: wouldn't you throw your vote into that ring? Well, because
Speaker 2: then my vote will be wasted. Well, you know what
Speaker 2: would that attitude?
Speaker 1: You're fucking right, that's fair. A lot of people do
Speaker 1: believe that your vote will be wasted. I honestly I
Speaker 1: felt like that too when I did vote for it
Speaker 1: at the one time, because I was like, man, I
Speaker 1: know that, I feel like I'm just pissing in the
Speaker 1: wind here. But I also felt like at least they
Speaker 1: voted for somebody that that I wanted. But who knows.
Speaker 1: People people are strange. Maybe own will get kicked out
Speaker 1: of her position again.
Speaker 2: Hopefully she gets deported. That would be dope. That'd be great, man.
Speaker 1: I feel like they would lose people would lose their
Speaker 1: minds if he actually deported her.
Speaker 2: I mean, if AOC I wish she was a foreign national,
Speaker 2: she really does need to get deported. That'd be amazing.
Speaker 1: She's one of the stupidest human beings.
Speaker 2: Well, this is what happens when a career bartender becomes
Speaker 2: a politician, has not.
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with her career choice. It's
Speaker 1: her person, the person of like she is trash in
Speaker 1: and of herself as a human being. It has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with being a bartender at all. That doesn't
Speaker 1: weigh into her you know, education or having a brain
Speaker 1: or anything. I mean, a lot of people have different
Speaker 1: ways and walks of life. That doesn't prove any different.
Speaker 1: That's like saying plant workers are stupid.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. I've worked in many plants.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would vote for any of
Speaker 2: those motherfuckers to be running the country.
Speaker 1: But there might be some here and there that are
Speaker 1: actually extremely intelligent human beings. They just you know, lucky
Speaker 1: the draw kind of a thing.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: What I don't like about her is she's an habitual liar. Well, yeah, outright.
Speaker 1: She says, Wow, that landas shit that has no backing.
Speaker 1: She doesn't understand half the crap she's even saying. She
Speaker 1: somehow holds sway over the younger generation, but sways them
Speaker 1: in ways that like, I don't understand.
Speaker 2: You remember her kids in cages thing, when she was
Speaker 2: like laying up against the fence crying and then when
Speaker 2: you pan out, she was just at a parking lot. Yes,
Speaker 2: that there was just cars on the other side of
Speaker 2: that fence.
Speaker 1: That wasn't There's been a lot well, I mean her
Speaker 1: whole thing about January sixth as well, like there's so
Speaker 1: much to do in and of itself, and we've gotten
Speaker 1: way off track now, yeah we have.
Speaker 2: But it's okay, yeah anyway, anyway, all right, So now
Speaker 2: let's dive into a little bit of the history of
Speaker 2: Somali's in Minneapolis, specifically in Saint Paul. All right, this
Speaker 2: is actually from Wikipedia. So Somalis are an ethic group
Speaker 2: in Minnesota's or Minneapolis is Saint Paul metropolitan area that
Speaker 2: makes up the largest Somali diasporas in the United States.
Speaker 2: By twenty eighteen, approximately forty three thousand people born in
Speaker 2: Somalia were living in Minnesota, and approximately ninety four thousand
Speaker 2: Minnesotans spoke Somali language at home. Now, I don't understand
Speaker 2: how that one works out specifically, but cool, so little
Speaker 2: under one hundred thousand people in Minnesota are Somali speakers actually,
Speaker 2: all right, so the history of it. Ethnic Somalis first
Speaker 2: immigrated to the Twin Cities in the United States after
Speaker 2: the start of the civil war in Somalia during the
Speaker 2: early nineteen nineties, or from other parts of the Greater Somalia.
Speaker 2: Many of the newer arrivals moved to Minnesota through the
Speaker 2: Voluntary Agency's volags, who helped them settle in. Somalis who
Speaker 2: had arrived earlier also assisted the more recent immigrants. Somalis
Speaker 2: in the Twin Cities and elsewhere in the United States
Speaker 2: often send resources to their extended families abroad, remittances that
Speaker 2: were facilitated by the signing of the Money Remittants Improvement Act.
Speaker 2: Following a greatly improved security situation in Somalia in twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: many Somali US residents have also begun returning to Mogadishu
Speaker 2: and other parts of the country. I feel like that's
Speaker 2: probably not accurate as at this moment, but we'll get
Speaker 2: to that in a bit. A few of the homeward
Speaker 2: bound immigrants, along with some American born associates, have been
Speaker 2: sought and or prosecuted for allegedly providing material support to
Speaker 2: the Al Shabab and Islamic State political militant groups. Just
Speaker 2: so we're all clear here, these are two different things,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna break these down more. The Islamic State
Speaker 2: affiliates and the al Shabab affiliates, they're almost like warring gangs.
Speaker 2: If we're gonna get technical, it's the same as saying
Speaker 2: ISIS versus al Qaeda, and we're gonna break all of
Speaker 2: that down just so we're all on the same page.
Speaker 2: But they're both Islamic terrorist groups, just so we're clear anyway. However,
Speaker 2: according to the intelligence officials, fewer expeak expatriates were joining
Speaker 2: the group's ranks in by late twenty thirteen. Most of
Speaker 2: the returnees have insisted repatriated for investment opportunities and to
Speaker 2: take part in the ongoing post conflict reconstruction process in Somalia,
Speaker 2: participating in the renovation of schools, hospitals, roads, and other infrastructure.
Speaker 2: They have played a leading role in the capital's recovery
Speaker 2: and have also helped propel the local real estate market. Okay,
Speaker 2: fair enough in demographics here. In early twenty sixteen, the
Speaker 2: Minnesota Dema Demographers Demographers Demographers Office gave an estimate that
Speaker 2: they were between forty thousand and fifty two thousand Somalians
Speaker 2: in Minnesota although some of the some from the Somali
Speaker 2: community put the number as high as eighty thousand. These
Speaker 2: estimates include people born in Somalia and of Somali descent.
Speaker 2: Somali's and Minnesota reside throughout the Twin City Metropolitanariu and
Speaker 2: the surrounding towns. Many Somali's inhabit Minneapolis's Cedar Riverside neighborhood,
Speaker 2: particularly newly arrived immigrants. Somali professionals often moved to the
Speaker 2: suburbs to raise their children in a more secure environment
Speaker 2: away from the inner city. Although Somalis have established ethnic enclaves,
Speaker 2: there is an easy commute between Somali areas and the
Speaker 2: wider metropolitan metropolis. All right, cool, cool, cool, So just
Speaker 2: a little background to some of the demographics that are
Speaker 2: concerned with this. Now, with all this being said here,
Speaker 2: I got this pulled up from the Sahan Journal. Somali
Speaker 2: Prime Minister to address the fight against al Shabab during
Speaker 2: Minnesota visit Sunday. This is actually from twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: So the Somali president, okay, Prime minister, excuse me, Haza
Speaker 2: Hamza abd Bar. Yeah, he appeared at an event in
Speaker 2: Bloomington and he was coming to specifically talk about how
Speaker 2: his people do not need to be helping al Shabab
Speaker 2: and we need to fight against them, even though it
Speaker 2: has been proven that billions have been sent to al Shabab,
Speaker 2: and I have a hard time believing that the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister doesn't isn't getting a cut. I'm just gonna go
Speaker 2: ahead and throw that out there, especially when Somalia is
Speaker 2: one of the most governmental corrupt countries on Earth. I
Speaker 2: just I can't see it. But let's continue here. Somali
Speaker 2: Prime Minister Hamza abd Bar arrived in New York City
Speaker 2: on Monday a company by a significant delegation and will
Speaker 2: make stop make a stop in Minnesota Sunday. Hamsa is
Speaker 2: participating in the United Nations General Assembly in New York.
Speaker 2: According to a statement released by his office, he is
Speaker 2: expected to deliver speech to the UN on Saturday, highlighting
Speaker 2: Somalia's achievements whatever that is focused on poverty reduction, healthcare, education,
Speaker 2: economic growth, human rights, peace and security, justice, establishing robust
Speaker 2: governmental institutions, and climate change. Big dog, Big dog. With
Speaker 2: all of the shit that Somalia has going on, perhaps
Speaker 2: climate change should be a thing that you speak on
Speaker 2: right now, ya y'all's play it's pretty full without throwing
Speaker 2: on some al gore sprinkles.
Speaker 1: They are actually like as of recording, there's an article
Speaker 1: that just came out talking about the smalling risk of
Speaker 1: being a Jihada state, and they're saying that the Mogadesh,
Speaker 1: mogadish Mogadishu, Yeah, Mogdishu is pretty much like a hair
Speaker 1: breadth away from being taken over by al Shabab, largely
Speaker 1: due to the breakdown of the political corruption in their
Speaker 1: federal and state authorities, and pretty much that there might
Speaker 1: be a way for them to save it, but they
Speaker 1: would have to get the African Using Union for peacekeeping
Speaker 1: forces to help reinforce all of this. But they're pretty
Speaker 1: much screwed right now, and that they're taking over everything,
Speaker 1: and that the it's resembling the Taliban more and more.
Speaker 2: Okay, So keep that one in mind because it literally
Speaker 2: in this same sentence, the Prime Minister will infant size
Speaker 2: the progress made in Somalia's recovery efforts and will also
Speaker 2: seek to support seek support for its country's reconstruction, underscoring
Speaker 2: the Somali National Army's ability to resume responsibility for the
Speaker 2: nation's security. He will also ask the UN to lift
Speaker 2: its long standing arms embargo on Somalia. This comes as
Speaker 2: Somali's fight against al Shabab, a terrorist organization that controls
Speaker 2: most of southern Somalia and that has links to al Qaeda,
Speaker 2: has intensified as the African Transition Mission in Somalia or
Speaker 2: at MISS forces are leaving the country.
Speaker 1: Yes, so it says that most embassies have been closed down, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that they're taking over the locations they have won
Speaker 1: against the Islamic States in the Islamic State in Somalia.
Speaker 1: They have actually like beaten them quote unquote back in
Speaker 1: one specific area. It's down to like rough six hundred
Speaker 1: to maybe sixteen hundred people left in that in that
Speaker 1: specific terrorist group. There's like multiple Islamic States across different countries,
Speaker 1: but the one specifically in Somalia, they've they've beaten back
Speaker 1: with joint forces with the United States and the United
Speaker 1: Arab Emirates. But they are losing ground every second of
Speaker 1: every day pretty much to al Shabab, and they have
Speaker 1: advancing let's see, they have encircled the entire capital. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're advancing fifty kilometers pretty much every couple days, They've
Speaker 1: taken over all the checkpoints, they've closed all the embassies,
Speaker 1: they've withdrawn all the non essential staff, and are fleeing
Speaker 1: to Kenya right now. Al Schabad's strength has always been
Speaker 1: a reflection of the Somalians government's weakness. It's taught like
Speaker 1: it goes on and on about how they pretty much
Speaker 1: are screwed.
Speaker 2: And see, I think that that also has a lot
Speaker 2: to do with the new president they are prime minister
Speaker 2: that they have. So your boy Homs I feel like
Speaker 2: he genuinely wanted to enact change. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe
Speaker 2: he was absolutely as shitty as all the rest. But
Speaker 2: when the article that I'm reading here was from twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, it says that the government strategy since President
Speaker 2: Hassan Sheikh Muhammad's re election last year is to weaken
Speaker 2: Al Shabab's military capabilities, financial resources, and ideological perspectives. President
Speaker 2: Hassan Sheikh Muhammad leading from the front lines of spearheading
Speaker 2: the liberation of terrorists or liberation of territories occupied by
Speaker 2: Al Shabab. So clearly that hasn't happened. Clearly that did
Speaker 2: not take place. So your boy Sheikh Muhammad is obviously
Speaker 2: not really going after al Shabab that hard clearly not anyway.
Speaker 2: If all these resources are going that direction and they
Speaker 2: are gaining that much ground, they've circled the city to
Speaker 2: the level that they have, then you couple that with
Speaker 2: the fact of how much money has been embezzled in
Speaker 2: fraudule sent to them from the Feeding Our Future organization
Speaker 2: and COVID nineteen relief funds and autism therapy funds and
Speaker 2: all of these things that's just going to fund al Shabab.
Speaker 2: I have a hard time believing that they're need The
Speaker 2: Prime Minister's not getting a cut.
Speaker 1: They currently control roughly thirty percent of all small and territory,
Speaker 1: and they're gaining more and more each day. In twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, is short lived government offensives supported by the
Speaker 1: US support US Special Forces succeeded in wrestling large swaths
Speaker 1: of central Somalia away from the militants, but progress tapered
Speaker 1: only after a few months, and al Shabab has since
Speaker 1: recovered almost all that lost ground plus some. The group
Speaker 1: is currently building up forces around Mogadesh mog Mogudishu and
Speaker 1: has stepped up attacks inside the city. In October twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, Al Shabab's suicide squad stormed that capital and
Speaker 1: branch of the the National Intelligence Service in Issa, destroying
Speaker 1: valuable intelligence and releasing dozens of prisoners, just as thrown
Speaker 1: stones thrown from the Presidential Paza. Al shabab strength, however,
Speaker 1: has always been a reflection of the Somalians government's weakness.
Speaker 1: Despite more than two decades of investment billions of dollars
Speaker 1: in training and equipment, the Smalian National Army is still
Speaker 1: incapable of sustained clearing and holding of holding operations. In
Speaker 1: an address before Parliament in November twenty twenty five, Chief
Speaker 1: of the Devent's Forces General not even to try to
Speaker 1: say it, y'all, the last name is Rage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess rage.
Speaker 1: It's our age and we're calling him rage O, my
Speaker 1: bad general. It is what it is.
Speaker 2: He's probably just like the cousin of the Prime Minister
Speaker 2: to becoming general.
Speaker 1: But continue disclose that between ten thousand and fifteen thousand
Speaker 1: troops had been killed or wounded in action over the
Speaker 1: last three years. The forces suffered. The forces suffers from
Speaker 1: a host of troubles, including poor leadership, corruption, corruption, uneven
Speaker 1: training standards, and a reliance on clans deemed loyal to
Speaker 1: be to the sitting president rather than being a force
Speaker 1: having a genuine national character. This is left the federal
Speaker 1: government of Somalia heavily reliant on the African Union Support
Speaker 1: and the Stabilization Mission in Somalia for security. Meanwhile, mogadesh
Speaker 1: U's politic political interference, sorry my eyes are like killing me.
Speaker 1: Interference and missions have left the African Union Support and
Speaker 1: Stabilization Mission in Somalia under strength, under strength without so
Speaker 1: pretty much it's saying that sorry, it's hemorrhaging the donor support.
Speaker 1: It's threatening the reduction of termination. The map that it
Speaker 1: shows is pretty much they have like no real standing. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's surrounded the yellow part there. You guys can't see
Speaker 1: it because I can't share it, but it's contest. It
Speaker 1: pretty much the territories are completely covered in al Shabab,
Speaker 1: and if they aren't, they're being fought over. And there's
Speaker 1: only like one tiny there's a tiny pocket up north
Speaker 1: that is the Islamic State in Somalia, and then there's
Speaker 1: one little port that is being held by the government.
Speaker 1: Other than that, the majority of it is being fought
Speaker 1: over or controlled by al Shabab as of right now.
Speaker 1: This came out just a few days ago.
Speaker 2: And that checks out as well as far as when
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, when American forces came in and took
Speaker 2: back massive chunks of land. This is extremely remnant of
Speaker 2: what happened in nineteen ninety or was it ninety one?
Speaker 2: Maybe I forget again anybody who hasn't seen the movie
Speaker 2: Black Hawk Down. First of all, homework assignment you must see.
Speaker 2: But secondly, the very opening scene of that movie, the
Speaker 2: first three minutes, they talk about how warlords took over
Speaker 2: the country. UN peacekeepers came in. They were kind of
Speaker 2: doing some things, not really making a lot of ground.
Speaker 2: The United States Marine Corps landed, and within two weeks
Speaker 2: peace had resumed throughout the entire nation. Then, when the
Speaker 2: Marines pulled back and UN forces took the ball and
Speaker 2: tried running with it, the terrorist groups and the warlords
Speaker 2: took the land back. Because that's how that goes enter
Speaker 2: in the Ranger battalion that was in Black Hawk Down
Speaker 2: and that whole situation. And then I actually watched a
Speaker 2: documentary where these two dudes went to, oh shit, what
Speaker 2: was it called?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: The Akhur bazaar in Mogadishu where that scene had taken place.
Speaker 2: Two of the dudes that were there with black Hawk
Speaker 2: down they like went back there after the fact and
Speaker 2: they realized, like, yo, we like they still see the bullets,
Speaker 2: like the straping rounds from them on certain buildings, and
Speaker 2: they're like, you realize we're at that bazar right now.
Speaker 2: He's like yeah, or Alec Barr is that it? I forget,
Speaker 2: but he's like, yeah, I'm acutely aware of that. We
Speaker 2: need to get out of here because if they see
Speaker 2: that two white dudes are in these nice ass you know,
Speaker 2: range rover in this city, it's not going to go
Speaker 2: good right now. And that was years ago when there
Speaker 2: was quote unquote peace in Somalia. So again US forces
Speaker 2: came in, took back massive amounts of land and then
Speaker 2: handed to the government, who with all the corruption that's happening,
Speaker 2: lost it all. And now the country is and basically
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even call a civil war, it's in a
Speaker 2: hostile takeover an insurrection.
Speaker 1: Well, they so there's two groups that were there. I
Speaker 1: don't I'm trying to find more of the information of
Speaker 1: the other groups, but pretty much it comes down there
Speaker 1: was so there's three people that are fighting right now
Speaker 1: in the country. There's a government that's trying to hold
Speaker 1: whatever semblance of military that they.
Speaker 2: Have left good luck.
Speaker 1: Then there's the Islamic State, and then there is Al Shabab,
Speaker 1: which is three separate groups. The Islamic State actually used
Speaker 1: to be holding a lot more territory, but now because
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five, they lost a shit ton of
Speaker 1: people in it. They never really had a large group
Speaker 1: actually to begin with, which is surprising because of how
Speaker 1: much they were able to accomplish with a small amount
Speaker 1: of people compared to Al Shabab.
Speaker 2: I think that was because of a power back vacuum,
Speaker 2: and at that moment ISIS was way more well funded
Speaker 2: than al Qaeda, and just we're all clear. Al Shabab
Speaker 2: is an al Qaeda affiliate. The Islamic State in is
Speaker 2: isis it's Isis, right exactly aka.
Speaker 1: Isis, but there is different So each country has their
Speaker 1: own Islamic states. So this is the Islamic State of
Speaker 1: Samal yet, right, so they are like they're like cousins
Speaker 1: to each other pretty much.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's that's accurate, but it's also there's
Speaker 2: levels to that. This is like saying that the Sunni
Speaker 2: and the Shia Muslims are cousins to each other. Yes,
Speaker 2: but they also really fucking hate each other.
Speaker 1: Well, so I was looking kind of more into that.
Speaker 1: And the ISIS groups they have like a hierarchy within
Speaker 1: them depending on which country that they are in and
Speaker 1: how much funding and backing and how many people they have.
Speaker 1: They have a whole hierarchy system.
Speaker 2: But that's because the Islamic State wants to enact a
Speaker 2: global caliphate, right, led by a caliph for an emperor,
Speaker 2: if you will, So like that's their overarching goal. Al
Speaker 2: Qaeda is not. They are not trying to start a caliphate.
Speaker 2: They're just trying to do terrors. Shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the caliph, so Islamic state actually means a
Speaker 1: million militant organization that aims to establish a calif caliphate
Speaker 1: governed wow words are really difficulty now, but governed by
Speaker 1: the interpretation of Islamic law. It originated in the insurgency
Speaker 1: in Iraq. It's claiming religious and political authority over all
Speaker 1: of Muslims, like all Muslims, right, and most Muslims actually
Speaker 1: don't agree with this. So that's what Islamic state means.
Speaker 1: In and of itself.
Speaker 2: So just so we're clear as far as the caliphate
Speaker 2: is concerned, I know that's a word that we've probably
Speaker 2: heard of time, so I'm gonna break it down for everybody.
Speaker 2: A caliphate is a form of Islamic government led by
Speaker 2: a caliph right who is considered the political and religious
Speaker 2: successor to the prophet Muhammad himself and the leader of
Speaker 2: the entire Muslim community. The position carries both temporal and
Speaker 2: spiritual authority, although its religious function was later taken over
Speaker 2: by Islamic scholars known as the Ulama. Just so we're
Speaker 2: clear here the history of a caliphate being established. The
Speaker 2: first one was the Rashidun Caliphate in six point thirty
Speaker 2: two to six sixty one a d Okay, the quote
Speaker 2: unquote rightly guided Caliphate was led by the first four
Speaker 2: successors of Mohammad, Abu Baker, Umar Uthman and Ali Okay.
Speaker 2: This aerosol rapid expansion of the Islamic state beyond the
Speaker 2: Arabian peninsula throughout the conquest excuse me. Then there was
Speaker 2: the Umayad Caliphate, which was from six sixty one to
Speaker 2: seven point fifty a d. Then was the Abbasid Caliphate,
Speaker 2: from seven fifty to twelve fifty eight AD. This is
Speaker 2: the one whenever you hear about like the crusades that
Speaker 2: were taking place. They were fighting against the Abbasid Kliphate. Okay,
Speaker 2: then was the Ottoman Caliphate. We've heard of the Ottoman
Speaker 2: Empire before. That was a caliphate and that lasted until
Speaker 2: from fifteen seventeen until nineteen twenty four.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: When World War One ended, the Ottoman Empire in the
Speaker 2: Ottoman Caliphate collapsed. So the Isis group or the Islamic
Speaker 2: State is on the move to try to reestablish a
Speaker 2: caliphate in their area, but they want that to spread worldwide,
Speaker 2: which is what they have called the global into Fada
Speaker 2: or the global Islamic takeover. That is what this means.
Speaker 1: Oh Okay, that makes a lot more sense now.
Speaker 2: Which is why you have these small pockets in random
Speaker 2: places all over the world, not just in America, not
Speaker 2: just in Minnesota, but all over the world where these
Speaker 2: Muslim quote unquote refugees. Some of them come from countries
Speaker 2: that really are bad and like they really are true refugees,
Speaker 2: they're just trying to like get to safety. Then you
Speaker 2: have others where wow, how are all of these refugees,
Speaker 2: military aged males. That's very strange. Why is there no
Speaker 2: women and children and elderly with the refugees. Wouldn't the
Speaker 2: military aged males stay and fight for their country against
Speaker 2: the terrorists. But somehow they're all military aged males and
Speaker 2: they come to these let's just call them Western societies
Speaker 2: and they're trying to make it more Muslim, and they're
Speaker 2: being very loud and proud about how this is a
Speaker 2: Muslim takeover and that's the thing that's happening.
Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen. I didn't know this until I started
Speaker 1: looking into this. The Islamic Sea actually comes from the
Speaker 1: al Shabab group. It was they split apart and it
Speaker 1: was a big smuggling in Somalia in Smolia. Y yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: in in Smolia into fifteen. So this group of people
Speaker 1: pretty much they all hubbed up in the north because
Speaker 1: there is a specific area where the piracy and all
Speaker 1: of that is and they smuggle shit ton of stuff.
Speaker 1: So they got their majority of funding from that. I
Speaker 1: think it starts with the pea hang on. It's called
Speaker 1: punt Land.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Puntland, which is a very historic land. Actually in
Speaker 2: Egyptian literature, the only other. The first other nation that's
Speaker 2: ever mentioned is the nation of punt So.
Speaker 1: I actually didn't know that either. Yeah, like me, learn
Speaker 1: learning all sorts of new things got you. So they
Speaker 1: decided to split apart. They had they had some big
Speaker 1: old fields and the what now is the leader of
Speaker 1: the Islamac State of Somalia is from twenty fifteen, it's
Speaker 1: still the same dude. It's Moonin. I don't know how
Speaker 1: to say his name. It starts it's you U M
Speaker 1: I N. It's the same Roman Suman. So he actually
Speaker 1: didn't even become the leader of this until twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three was he finally was recognized because I don't think
Speaker 1: he's actually of the bloodline, but they like kind of
Speaker 1: made exceptions for old boy, so they decided to like
Speaker 1: let him, let him be. They actually in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two they got one point three million dollars in extortion imports, livestocking,
Speaker 1: agriculture just for their little When I say little compared
Speaker 1: to the map, if you actually look up the map,
Speaker 1: you're talking like a tiny little cube on the whole
Speaker 1: map that they actually were able to accomplish with only
Speaker 1: less than sixteen hundred guys. So they've been thriving for
Speaker 1: a good bit. Mainly they were doing extortion and piracy
Speaker 1: and stuff. So that's where they kind of screwed up
Speaker 1: those is because when they decided that they were going
Speaker 1: to try and take over more Land, they got pretty
Speaker 1: fucked up by the government with the help of the US,
Speaker 1: So they did a whole bunch of attacks. They killed
Speaker 1: seventy fighters from January February of twenty twenty five, the
Speaker 1: main base fell, and then all of their other bases
Speaker 1: fell within the same month of March. Now they're leader
Speaker 1: in their second in command and like less than a
Speaker 1: few hundred fighters are hiding and they're pretty much going
Speaker 1: to be wiped out. They've they've decided. I don't know
Speaker 1: why they're They're like just a dime in the bucket
Speaker 1: though right now, because Al Shabab is the one that's
Speaker 1: actually taking over everything. So and their history is a
Speaker 1: lot different than this history.
Speaker 2: So wait real quick as far as the Islamic State goes,
Speaker 2: before we get on to Al Shabab, we should also
Speaker 2: not step over the fact that the only reason why
Speaker 2: isis let's just call it the Islamic State as a
Speaker 2: whole even exists right now is because of Barack Obama.
Speaker 2: So just so anybody is clear, in twenty fourteen, Obama
Speaker 2: funded ISLE, who later became ISIS, who took over whenever
Speaker 2: we pulled out of Iraq and then later other parts
Speaker 2: of the Arab world. He funded them and gave them weapons,
Speaker 2: kind of enemy of my enemy is my friend kind
Speaker 2: of thing, because they weren't about al Qaeda, you know,
Speaker 2: and they, although they might be some extremists, they wanted
Speaker 2: to put the hurting on al Qaeda and some other
Speaker 2: terrorist groups that America didn't like. So Obama threw a
Speaker 2: lot of money and resources their way. And yes, there's
Speaker 2: gonna be people saying that's debunk that's not real. Listen,
Speaker 2: talk to me after you look up Operation Fast and
Speaker 2: Furious and how American cops were killed from cartel members
Speaker 2: using American guns that Obama sent to them. Then come
Speaker 2: to me about if ISOL was not also funded and
Speaker 2: operated by Obama. But neither hero were there. So ISOL
Speaker 2: became ISIS, which is now a remnant of the Islamic
Speaker 2: state that is now happening in Somalia. It's all based
Speaker 2: back to all lies together, Barack Hussein anyway, continuing, that's kind.
Speaker 1: Of crazy, Yeah, so they they were linked to in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, they were linked to about fifty bombings.
Speaker 2: That's Al Shababa seventeen.
Speaker 1: No, this is the ISIS group, Okay, from seventeen to
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, And that's kind of where they got their
Speaker 1: like popularity quote unquote or their name if anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the notoriety before they got got they didn't really do
Speaker 1: a bunch. They kind of stayed in the central North area.
Speaker 1: That's where they are right now. As well, they weren't
Speaker 1: able to like spread down, not like Al Schebob. Al
Speaker 1: Schiebob was like wildfire across Somalia. So they definitely didn't
Speaker 1: have the same backing or funding. So that's kind of
Speaker 1: the history shortened shortened, cut to history. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to go like in depth about it because they've pretty
Speaker 1: much killed all of them there. But yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: a part of one of the groups that is having
Speaker 1: fighting at least in one of the areas that is
Speaker 1: exported extorting money and things from their local citizens.
Speaker 2: It's also crazy that the piracy, the Somali pirates, you know,
Speaker 2: m I seen Captain Phillips, I am de keptin know
Speaker 2: that whole thing that was that portion of that is
Speaker 2: al Schebob, no doubt. Portion of that is also the
Speaker 2: Islamic State, and a portion of that is just Somali
Speaker 2: citizens because they realize that they can make more money
Speaker 2: with ransom than they could uh you know, trying to
Speaker 2: open up a shop in Mogadishu or whatever. It's it's
Speaker 2: crazy when I mean.
Speaker 1: They're they're starving in most of the places. They don't
Speaker 1: have any money, which now I don't condone things like.
Speaker 2: That, but of a good portion of the country also
Speaker 2: is more uh.
Speaker 1: It's more drugs.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but like as far as them like trying
Speaker 2: to get their fixed too. So there's this plant that
Speaker 2: grows called cat okay quat I think is how it's spelled.
Speaker 2: It's a bush that grows and basically you chew the
Speaker 2: leaves and it gives you like a low dose heroin hit.
Speaker 2: And you could actually see it's all over Africa. As
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, Djibouti very famously one of the
Speaker 2: smallest countries on Earth, but also has like nine different
Speaker 2: bases from different countries. US has a very large base
Speaker 2: there actually, and you'll see the people that are like
Speaker 2: waiting for the trucks to get there for food. They're
Speaker 2: not worried about the food, They're worried about their next
Speaker 2: cat shipment. And again, if you've ever seen Captain Phillips,
Speaker 2: the dudes that were chewing those leaves and shit the
Speaker 2: whole time, that was what it was. The country, and
Speaker 2: I mean this happens anywhere that's really destitute. The people
Speaker 2: are trying to find any way they can to like
Speaker 2: remove themselves from the situation and try to find a
Speaker 2: little bit of peace. So a cheap drug that grows
Speaker 2: everywhere is kind of the way that it goes. And
Speaker 2: unfortunately nothing gets done to help them. And for the
Speaker 2: women and children and elderly that are truly suffering in
Speaker 2: that country, they are literally thrown to the wayside. It
Speaker 2: like they said, it's government corruption top to bottom that's
Speaker 2: led to this position. And I don't have a good
Speaker 2: feeling to anything positive is gonna happen anytime soon to
Speaker 2: fix it.
Speaker 1: So what is the history of al Shabab? And like
Speaker 1: how did they get their foothold in this country so severely?
Speaker 2: All right, so let's talk about that right quick. This
Speaker 2: is al Shabab. This is an art quote from Congress
Speaker 2: dot Gov was updated February fourteenth of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: So al Shabab, which God, I'm not even gonna try
Speaker 2: to pronounce that basically it was the Mujahadeen Youth movement
Speaker 2: is what it stands for. It's what it came from anyway,
Speaker 2: And for anybody who doesn't know what the mujah Hadeen is,
Speaker 2: that was the freedom fighters that were based in Afghanistan
Speaker 2: that America funded and armed to fight against the Soviets
Speaker 2: that were in Afghanistan. Where is you know tim Osmond
Speaker 2: aka Osama bin Lauden. Perhaps you've heard of him. Tim
Speaker 2: Osman was his CIA handler name. That's not a joke,
Speaker 2: that's a very verified fact at this point. He got
Speaker 2: his start with the Mujahadeen freedom fighters. So the Mujahadeen
Speaker 2: Youth Movement that is now called Al Shabab is a
Speaker 2: Somali based insurgent and terrorist group that the US Africa
Speaker 2: Command or AFRICAM in twenty twenty two labeled quote the largest,
Speaker 2: wealthiest and most lethal alcohol affiliate in the world today.
Speaker 2: Continuing here, African reports that the group poses the greatest
Speaker 2: danger to US citizens and interests in East Africa and
Speaker 2: is a threat to the United States so the background
Speaker 2: to it. Al Schebob emerged in the mid two thousands
Speaker 2: amidst a vacuum of state authority in Somalia. It evolved
Speaker 2: out of a militant wing of the Federation of Islamic
Speaker 2: Courts that took control of Mogadishu and much of southern
Speaker 2: Somalia in two thousand and six, when Ethiopia, which back
Speaker 2: Somalia's nascent transitional government, intervened militarily with US support to
Speaker 2: oust the courts. Al Schabab used historical anti Ethiopian sentiments
Speaker 2: among Somali's to draw recruits and support, including among the
Speaker 2: diaspora of the United States. Al Chebob held much of
Speaker 2: the south central Somalia, including the capital, from the late
Speaker 2: two thousands until the African Union. The AU forces gained
Speaker 2: momentum against the insurgency in twenty eleven and twenty twelve
Speaker 2: and reclaimed some territory from the group. Shabab has nevertheless
Speaker 2: retained control over parts of the country, despite international recognition
Speaker 2: of Somalia's federal government in twenty twelve and a range
Speaker 2: of multilateral efforts to degrade its capacity. The group also
Speaker 2: maintains influence and the ability to conduct tax in government
Speaker 2: held areas. So now we call them an al Qaeda affiliate.
Speaker 2: So what is the relationship here? Right? So, some of
Speaker 2: al Shabab's founding members trained with al Qaeda in Afghanistan,
Speaker 2: and senior al Qaeda operatives in East Africa, including Fazul Mohammad,
Speaker 2: the late mastermind of the US embassy bombings in Kenya
Speaker 2: and Tanzania, have been associated with the groups. After expressions
Speaker 2: of allegiance to al Qaeda in al Shabab's early years,
Speaker 2: the groups announced a formal affiliation in twenty twelve. So
Speaker 2: while Al Schabbab leaders appear to broadly share al Qaeda's
Speaker 2: transitional or transnational agenda, the group operates independently among other
Speaker 2: al Qaeda affiliates. The group maintains ties with al Qaeda
Speaker 2: in the Arabian Peninsula, with which it runs a smuggling network.
Speaker 2: In twenty fifteen, some of al Shabab's members pressed for
Speaker 2: a shift in allegiance to the Islamic State, like you
Speaker 2: had said, raven Lee, this is where they had that
Speaker 2: big split. Al Schabab leadership rejected the proposal and launched
Speaker 2: a deadly crackdown against Islamic State supporters. A small ISS
Speaker 2: faction in the northern Somalia survived to the purge, and
Speaker 2: al Shabab remains the dominant group and appears to view
Speaker 2: the ISS cell as a rival. So this is the
Speaker 2: background to it. Also the threat here. Al Shabab has
Speaker 2: waged an asymmetric campaign against Somali government AU forces and
Speaker 2: foreign targets in Somalia. Per the UN data, in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, it was the deadliest year since twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: when a truck bomb in Mogadishu killed over five hundred people,
Speaker 2: a single truck bomb. That was al Shabab's deadliest single
Speaker 2: attack to date.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder how big a bomb was. That must
Speaker 1: have been a big pressure pressure plate.
Speaker 2: Maybe, But even still, Mogadishu is such a highly densely
Speaker 2: populated city, especially if we're going to like one of
Speaker 2: the big bazaars where like there's shoulder to shoulder people
Speaker 2: at any hour of the day. A truck bomb well
Speaker 2: placed there, Yeah, you're gonna get mass casualty events. And
Speaker 2: that's the other thing I would consider that a mass
Speaker 2: casualty event. I don't like how America does that when
Speaker 2: there's a shooting that takes place and four people were shot,
Speaker 2: it's considered a mass shooting. Four is the number that
Speaker 2: is considered mass. That's bullshit.
Speaker 1: I think like twenty at least, can we at.
Speaker 2: Least get to double digits before we use the word mass.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Boston bombing, that like that's a mass bombing.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we at least, I don't know, at least ten, I.
Speaker 2: Would say, at least hit double digits before we start
Speaker 2: throwing out these critical words. I don't know. I know,
Speaker 2: I'm a weirdo for this. So while the group has
Speaker 2: focused primarily on Somalia, it also threatens countries participating in
Speaker 2: the Africa Transitional Mission in Somalia at MISS previously known
Speaker 2: as AMASOM, and has conductive attacks in neighboring countries and Uganda.
Speaker 2: Wow Al Schabab has been most active in Kenya, which
Speaker 2: launched a military operation in Somalia against the group in
Speaker 2: twenty eleven. Kenya joined AMASAM in twenty twelve. The group
Speaker 2: has killed hundreds of Kenyans, many through hit and run
Speaker 2: tactics near Somalia's border. In twenty fifteen assault, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: it's twenty fifteen assaults on a University in northeast Kenya,
Speaker 2: which killed at least one hundred and forty seven people,
Speaker 2: was the deadliest terrorist attack in Kenya since Al Qaeda's
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight bombing of the US embassy. Al Shabab's
Speaker 2: July twenty twenty two incursion into Ethiopia is its largest
Speaker 2: operation outside of Somalia to date, reportedly involving some two
Speaker 2: thousand Al Chabab fighters, The UN experts estimate that as
Speaker 2: many as one thousand fighters remain in Ethiopia, giving it
Speaker 2: a foothold despite Ethiopian claims of routing group. Al Shabab
Speaker 2: has threatened the US and western targets in the region
Speaker 2: and called for attacks against the United States. Of course,
Speaker 2: attacks on air national targets in Kenya's capital, the twenty
Speaker 2: thirteen Westgate Mall siege and the twenty nineteen Doucet D
Speaker 2: two hotel assault raised the group's international profile. Over fifty
Speaker 2: US citizens were reportedly in the Westgate Mall when the
Speaker 2: attacks started. All escaped, but six were injured. In twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: Alchabab killed a US soldier and two US contractors during
Speaker 2: a raid on Manda Bay Airfield, a Kenyan military facility
Speaker 2: used by the US military near the Somali border. The
Speaker 2: group has not claimed any attacks in the United States.
Speaker 2: It has however, encouraged lone wolf attacks in its propaganda,
Speaker 2: and in twenty fifteen it produced a video identifying shopping
Speaker 2: malls in Europe and the United States as potential targets.
Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, a Kenyan Nationwide national was arrested in
Speaker 2: the Philippines and later extra died to the United States
Speaker 2: on charges of conspiring to hijack an aircraft on behalf
Speaker 2: of al Shabab to conduct a nine to eleven style
Speaker 2: attack in the United States. So there you have it.
Speaker 2: Now let's talk about their objectives. Al Shabab rejects democracy broadly,
Speaker 2: ascribing to a vision of uniting ethnic Somali inhabited areas
Speaker 2: in Djibouti, Kenya, Ethiopia, and Somalia into an Islamic state
Speaker 2: under its version of Sharia law. It characterizes the Somali
Speaker 2: government as an illegitimate apostate authority that is beholden to
Speaker 2: foreign powers. Al Shabab leaders have repeatedly expressed their commitment
Speaker 2: to global jihad, as you would expect an al Qaeda
Speaker 2: group to do. They justify attacks outside of Somali as
Speaker 2: a retaliation against countries conducting military operations in Somalia and
Speaker 2: as retribution for alleged abuses against Muslims. Al Shabab describes
Speaker 2: the Manda Bay and douce it D two attacks in
Speaker 2: Kenya as consistent with al Qaeda directives to target US
Speaker 2: and Israeli interests, and refer to the airfield as one
Speaker 2: of the the quote unquote launch pads for American crusades
Speaker 2: against Islam in the region end quote. Al chabov activities
Speaker 2: in Kenya more broadly appear focused on sowing in inner
Speaker 2: internal descent and fomenting and insurgency. Its fighters have specifically
Speaker 2: targeted non Muslims in some attacks there. Wow yeah, so
Speaker 2: let's see leadership shitheads or leading shitheads on that one.
Speaker 2: It is what it is. Areas of operation and capabilities.
Speaker 2: Amazam and the neighboring militaries pushed al Shabab from Mogadishu
Speaker 2: and other urban centers and ports between twenty eleven and
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. Al Chabob's control of large areas in south
Speaker 2: and central Somalia, however, remained largely unchanged from twenty fifteen
Speaker 2: when Amazom's major offensive operations ceased until twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: when the Somali government launched a new offensive incoordination with
Speaker 2: local militias and a grassroots uprising. Al Chabob has since
Speaker 2: lost significant territory in central Somali, but it continues to
Speaker 2: conduct reprisal attacks there. While Al Shabab lost Mogadishu and
Speaker 2: other port cities initially restricted its revenue, the group has
Speaker 2: developed an extensive taxation system covering all aspects of Somalia's economy.
Speaker 2: Per the UN and other reporting, al Chebov extortes businesses
Speaker 2: even in government areas. It generates between fifty and one
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars US annually, according to UN monitors, and
Speaker 2: uses at least twenty five percent on military purchases. Al
Speaker 2: Schebob also supports al Qaeda directly with its tax proceed proceeds.
Speaker 2: UN monitors report that Al Schebob is estimated to have
Speaker 2: between seven and twelve thousand fighters. Again, this is as
Speaker 2: a twenty twenty three that number has grown and as
Speaker 2: it's talking about the pushing out of Mogadishue. In all
Speaker 2: these places they have reclaimed the land, So keep this
Speaker 2: in mind. This report two years better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing a lot better, but now they are. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: what we're reading is not accurate to what I read
Speaker 1: earlier today exactly.
Speaker 2: And that's what I think the former Prime Minister Ol Hassan.
Speaker 2: I think that he truly was trying to make some
Speaker 2: changes happen. The dude in there right now, shake Mohammed.
Speaker 2: There's nothing showing me that he is not an affiliate
Speaker 2: about Shama.
Speaker 1: He probably honestly is bought and paid for because the
Speaker 1: amount of land that they've taken back and everything that's
Speaker 1: going on is just is like you're pretty much cutting
Speaker 1: the knees off, cutting the lays off of your fighters,
Speaker 1: and they're dying left and right. You have hardly no
Speaker 1: one here to fight against him. You're just kind of like,
Speaker 1: it's okay, my citizens are starving, wh people are dying,
Speaker 1: and I'm just you know whatever.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. And no, I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: he's clearly an affiliate because his name has Mohammed in it. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's not what I'm saying. This is primarily a Muslim country,
Speaker 2: just so we're all clear here. But when we look
Speaker 2: at the line, the chain of custody, if you will.
Speaker 2: The Prime minister that came to America for that UN
Speaker 2: talk and then went to Minnesota and was telling his people, hey,
Speaker 2: don't fund this group. While he was at at the Helm,
Speaker 2: they actually made some pretty solid progress against al Shabab.
Speaker 2: The new Prime Minister as soon as he took office
Speaker 2: to now has done nothing of note to help fight
Speaker 2: against this group, and if anything, has kind of laid
Speaker 2: on his back and taken it as they've taken most
Speaker 2: of his country. So yeah, that's what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: said it earlier, and I agree with you, Ravenle. I
Speaker 2: think your boy is absolutely bought. And it also doesn't
Speaker 2: sound crazy whenever you look at the fact that Somalia
Speaker 2: has one of the most corrupt governments on Earth, if
Speaker 2: not the most, So why not, you know? Anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's pretty much all I wanted to read on that
Speaker 2: article here, But I am gonna shift over to the
Speaker 2: This is the Homeland Securitytoday dot US and this is
Speaker 2: a current or at least of January of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: This is what Homeland Security Threat forecast was for terrorism.
Speaker 2: All right, So now we're gonna go to global terrorism.
Speaker 2: Despite shifting US security priorities, such as the growing military
Speaker 2: and economic challenges posed by Russia and China. Terrorism remains
Speaker 2: a top concern. The Global Terrorism Trends and Analysis Center
Speaker 2: the GTTAC, which compiles data for the US Department of
Speaker 2: State Annual Terrorism Report, consistently records between seven thousand and
Speaker 2: nine thousand terrorist attacks yearly over the past three years.
Speaker 2: More than fifty five percent of these attacks have been
Speaker 2: attributed to Salafi jihadist terrorist groups. We're going to get
Speaker 2: to what that means here in a moment. In twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, GTTAC documented over eight thousand attacks, with Islamic
Speaker 2: State of Iraq and Syria, ISIS and al Qaeda affiliates
Speaker 2: continuing to be major perpetrators. ISIS core in Syria, with
Speaker 2: it along with its affiliates in Nigeria, the Sahel, Afghanistan,
Speaker 2: and Pakistan were responsible for a significant number of attacks
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. Al Shabab, another Al Qaeda affiliate,
Speaker 2: showed a decline in attacks in Somalia in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: but remains capable of using complex tactics such as suicide bombings,
Speaker 2: vehicle born IEDs v beds. More critically, Al Qaeda has
Speaker 2: benefited from the Taliban rule in Afghanistan, which has enabled
Speaker 2: the group to re establish itself. So even the Department
Speaker 2: of Homeland Security recognizes that al Shabab is funding al
Speaker 2: Qaeda and al Qaeda, he even has more of a
Speaker 2: way of establishing itself. Ever since the Taliban took over
Speaker 2: in Afghanistan, they've basically been left alone, left their own
Speaker 2: devices to recruit and make money and make explosives and
Speaker 2: do all the things that they were doing in the
Speaker 2: first place. So there you have it. Now we brought
Speaker 2: up a thing just now, the Salifi or Salafi Jihadis
Speaker 2: terrorist groups. So that's a term that I don't know
Speaker 2: if many people really know what that means. So Salaphism,
Speaker 2: sa Lafism, or Salifi's what everyone call them, is a conservative,
Speaker 2: ultra conservative branch of Sunni Islam that seeks to emulate
Speaker 2: the practices and doctrines of the earliest generations of Muslims
Speaker 2: known as the Salith or pious predecessors, who are the
Speaker 2: closest to the prophet Muhammad. Adherent's advocate for a strict
Speaker 2: literal interpretation of Islamic texts or Sharia, and condemned theology.
Speaker 2: Theological innovations of folks often focused on ritual purity, religious education,
Speaker 2: and quietest approach to politics. So here's the deal. And
Speaker 2: if we have any listeners that are of the Islamic
Speaker 2: faith on this one, I would have to say, prove
Speaker 2: me wrong. Okay. Islam as a religion is a warring religion.
Speaker 2: Within their books, within the Qoran itself, and within the
Speaker 2: Hadith and all these other books, it basically yeah, there
Speaker 2: are certain sections where it talks about peace and enlightenment
Speaker 2: and God and no doubt, no doubt, But even within
Speaker 2: their books, it is very clear that this is meant
Speaker 2: to take over the world by sword point. Either they
Speaker 2: can convert willingly or they can convert at sword point.
Speaker 2: And that doesn't sound that crazy whenever you look at
Speaker 2: the fact that Mohammad himself was a con man on
Speaker 2: the Silk Road who later became a warlord, and all
Speaker 2: of his Solavs, whatever you want to call them, all
Speaker 2: of them were generals. All of them were warlords who
Speaker 2: went on massive killing campaigns to spread the good word
Speaker 2: of Mohammad. Take that however you want. I know that
Speaker 2: people are gonna start shitting on Christianity, well, Christians kiote
Speaker 2: Bush too. Pause it did, yes, but pause. Nowhere in
Speaker 2: our book does it say to do that to non believers.
Speaker 1: That's true. It does say that.
Speaker 2: The Old Testament is Old Testament. I'm not talking about
Speaker 2: that Christianity, the New Testament that we live by. If anything,
Speaker 2: he said, turn the other cheek. He was a pacifist, right,
Speaker 2: And when you look at the words of Paul, he
Speaker 2: talks about how to set up churches and be peaceful
Speaker 2: and be you know, reaching out to the downtroden, take
Speaker 2: care of the widows, take care of the orphans. Islam
Speaker 2: is not. That's not what they were preaching. Ever. For
Speaker 2: that matter, I know that the you know, Islam had
Speaker 2: a golden age at one point in time, and there
Speaker 2: was a lot of scientific innovations that happened because of this.
Speaker 2: And I understand that. But if we're just gonna look
Speaker 2: at the litmus test here, just on a really solid
Speaker 2: pH scale, here the spectrum one religion more than any
Speaker 2: other on earth is throwing acid in women's faces and
Speaker 2: going into rape gang modes more than any other religion
Speaker 2: on earth. I feel like that's they have.
Speaker 1: A lot of They have a lot of things, so
Speaker 1: that are just completely unethical. Oh yeah, I don't quite understand.
Speaker 1: And I've seen some TikTok videos of these women that
Speaker 1: were not born into that religion that convert into it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, blows my mind.
Speaker 1: There's a white I'm so confused. There's two white women.
Speaker 2: She's a college she teaches Islam, and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 2: you what And their their response ravenly, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: their response to why this is Islam is actually a
Speaker 2: feminist religion, reason being, when you marry your husband, you
Speaker 2: keep your last name. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 1: That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in
Speaker 1: my life, considering that they've just pushed and got several
Speaker 1: countries to lower the age of consent for marriage to
Speaker 1: like nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's because the prophet married a six year old. Yeah,
Speaker 2: waited until she was nine to consummate, because you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sure, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: General mutilation totally a vibe, you know, be beheading, stonings,
Speaker 1: acid burnings, you know, that's completely famished. Yeah, totally. I
Speaker 1: just when I saw those things, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: everyone has the right to choose and make decisions for themselves,
Speaker 1: but why, as a woman would you pick a religion
Speaker 1: that does these things. Not all branches of Islam does this, No,
Speaker 1: but there are extremists be like, at what point do
Speaker 1: you know though you stepping into that religion, you're now
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 2: So there are so many Muslim converts that are doing
Speaker 2: very well on YouTube. I might add that will tell
Speaker 2: you about the country. They grew up in, the religion
Speaker 2: that they grew up in, and then they realized when
Speaker 2: they got older and they started, you know, thinking critically
Speaker 2: about it and reading this book, and it's like they
Speaker 2: hear somebody make some crazy claim about the prophet and
Speaker 2: they're like, that's not what he said, that's not what happened,
Speaker 2: and they're like, look in to it, and they do,
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh my god. This guy was a pedophile.
Speaker 2: He absolutely was a warlord. He absolutely also got he
Speaker 2: was also a raging homosexual. That should also be thrown
Speaker 2: out there. He had like now nine wives or some
Speaker 2: shit like that. Seven ten I forget. But like there's
Speaker 2: also the night where he quote unquote fought demons, which actually,
Speaker 2: if you look at the story, he basically just got
Speaker 2: a train ran on him by a bunch of black guys.
Speaker 2: And the story was shifted to where they were quote
Speaker 2: unquote demons. They weren't. The tribe that's mentioned was known
Speaker 2: in the day and age for being very tall, dark
Speaker 2: complexed gentleman with very long dicks, and they rode him
Speaker 2: all night long. And if you look at the context,
Speaker 2: rode him all night long had the same meaning in
Speaker 2: that context that it does today. It was a whole thing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean is there is a really good couple on
Speaker 1: Instagram is Muslim and they have, like, I like a
Speaker 1: lot of their videos. They're wonderful and they do some
Speaker 1: really cool tiktoks and they answer tons of questions for sure,
Speaker 1: and you know they have a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: positive things to say and like good for them. But
Speaker 1: like when you're coming based off of a man that
Speaker 1: is a true pedophile, that alone just I mean, there's
Speaker 1: there's nothing else you can say about it, like and okay.
Speaker 2: I've even heard people say, well, I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: the marrying age in most of the world used to
Speaker 2: be sixteen okay, pause, sixteen pause.
Speaker 1: Is completely a different story in and of itself. Sixteen
Speaker 1: and nine, sixteen and twelve.
Speaker 2: Thirteen, completely different conversations here and I'm not even saying
Speaker 2: the sixteen is acceptable, Like I'm not going that route.
Speaker 2: But there is a drastic difference between a sixteen year
Speaker 2: old getting married to a twenty year old from a
Speaker 2: six year old getting married to a forty five year old.
Speaker 2: And if these people can't actually like comprehend and the
Speaker 2: difference there, then clearly we are operating on two different
Speaker 2: levels of reality and two different moral barometers as a whole, honestly.
Speaker 1: But the fact that they fought against, they fought against
Speaker 1: the marrying age in multiple countries just this year alone,
Speaker 1: to get lowered to nine years old. Ye have a
Speaker 1: nine year old girl. I can't the thought.
Speaker 2: Of marrying your nine year old to a fifty year
Speaker 2: old man said she could be one of his eight
Speaker 2: wives or whatever. The thought of a parent thinking that
Speaker 2: this is acceptable behavior like that deserves death in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's so much worse that they deserve to me personally.
Speaker 1: But you know, we're off topic, but that's just a yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not something that you're ever going to change my mind,
Speaker 1: is acceptable.
Speaker 2: So now all right, getting back on topic here, let's
Speaker 2: talk about the fraud. Let's talk about the scandal that
Speaker 2: has taken place here right in Minnesota from the Somalis
Speaker 2: and how this is being used to fund Al Shabab?
Speaker 2: Shall we so Feeding our Future? Feeding Our Future was
Speaker 2: a Minnesota nonprofit founded in twenty sixteen. It claimed to
Speaker 2: distribute many thousands of meals to school children during COVID
Speaker 2: nineteen pandemic, who stole hundreds of millions of dollars while
Speaker 2: providing few or no meals at all to most of
Speaker 2: its locations. Although the state agency responsible for monitoring the
Speaker 2: school meal program repeatedly tried to cut off funds, the
Speaker 2: organization was not shut down until FBI raids and federal
Speaker 2: indictments in twenty twenty two. As of late twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: out of these seventy eight suspects indicted in the fraud,
Speaker 2: more than fifty have pled guilty. Another seven individuals were
Speaker 2: found guilty at trial, including the leader of the scheme,
Speaker 2: Amy Bach, while many others awaited trials. So, now let's
Speaker 2: dive into the history of Feeding Our Future, right, I
Speaker 2: mean that sounds like it's a good idea on the onset.
Speaker 2: The organization was found in twenty sixteen and repeatedly applied
Speaker 2: for grants from the state of Minnesota, but was rejected
Speaker 2: due to allegations of mismanagement and abuses Smart Minnesota. The
Speaker 2: organization's tax status as a nonprofit was revoked by the IRS.
Speaker 2: In February of twenty twenty. After the onset of the
Speaker 2: virus in the pandemic and a large increase in the
Speaker 2: amount of federal aid available, Feeding Our Future applied to
Speaker 2: receive funding to provide meals to school children as schools
Speaker 2: were closed. Although the Minnesota Department of Education knew the
Speaker 2: issues with Feeding our Future, it began giving the organization
Speaker 2: substantial grants after Feeding our Future threatened legal action against
Speaker 2: the state. Ultimately, after md OR the Minnesota Department of
Speaker 2: education began delaying responses to Feeding our Future's grant applications,
Speaker 2: the organization sued the state in November of twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: arguing that it was being discriminated against. It's obviously what
Speaker 2: it is. It's discrimination, it's racist. Around the same time,
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Department of Education raised concerns of fraud with
Speaker 2: the United States Department of Agriculture, and the FBI began investigating.
Speaker 2: In February of twenty twenty one, Feeding Our Futures leader
Speaker 2: Amy Bach maintained ties with the local politicians, including Minneapolis
Speaker 2: Mayor Jacob Frey and State Senator Omar Fete. We're going
Speaker 2: to talk about these people here in a moment because
Speaker 2: there was an election that just took place and Omar
Speaker 2: Fate lost his Minneapolis mayoral race to Jacob Frey. It's
Speaker 2: funny because Omar Feta is a very loud and proud
Speaker 2: anti Zionist who believes that all Jews should be killed,
Speaker 2: and Jacob Fray is a Jewish dude, and they're both
Speaker 2: Democrats for the record, So the anti jew guy just
Speaker 2: lost to the jew guy in Minnesota or Minneapolis which anyway, anyway,
Speaker 2: an aide to Frase Abdi Salah ultimately pled guilty to
Speaker 2: wire fraud. So the dude who just won the mayoral race,
Speaker 2: the Jewish guy, he his I'm sorry, his aid. Abdi
Speaker 2: Salah pled guilty to wire fraud. So just so we're
Speaker 2: all clear here, Omar Fete also was very guilty of
Speaker 2: the money laundering in the fraud on this shit, but
Speaker 2: so was Jacob Fray. Just so we're all clear here.
Speaker 2: Moving on, uh Frey stated he was unaware of Salah's activities. Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm sure. Another supporter was Minneapolis council member Jamal Osman.
Speaker 2: Very funny that that's funny that Osama bin Laden's technical
Speaker 2: CIA agent name was Tim Osman and now Jamal Osmon anyway,
Speaker 2: whose wife operated a Feeding Our Future Meal site which
Speaker 2: received more than four hundred thousand dollars in funding. Federal
Speaker 2: prosecutors allege that only over around three percent of the
Speaker 2: funding granted to Feeding Our Future Meal site was spent
Speaker 2: on food, while the remainder was funneled to the individual
Speaker 2: conspirators involved in the fraud. At its peak, the organization
Speaker 2: listed two hundred and ninety nine meal sites which purported
Speaker 2: to have served ninety million meals in less than two years.
Speaker 2: That's more than one hundred and twenty thousand meals per day.
Speaker 2: One site survey or surveilled by the FBI, claiming to
Speaker 2: serve six thousand meals per day, actually averaged around forty visitors. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's insane, blatant for the say Grint fraud.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely just like, hey, we're.
Speaker 2: Doing this basically, and they just kept running until it
Speaker 2: got caught. And I mean there was already a case
Speaker 2: of these people getting their case thrown out, So I mean,
Speaker 2: once there's a legal precedent for it. Eh, what the
Speaker 2: fuck right? Meanwhile, in December of twenty twenty, the Minnesota
Speaker 2: Department of Education denied Feeding our Futures ongoing grant applications
Speaker 2: and labeled the organization severely deficient, leading to an attempt
Speaker 2: by MDE to terminate all the partnership. Fully Feeding our
Speaker 2: Future sued the state in response. Minnesota Judge John Goothman
Speaker 2: or Guthman found in the spring of twenty twenty one
Speaker 2: that there was no legal basis for stopping payments and
Speaker 2: informed MDE that there could be a quote unquote real
Speaker 2: problem if it did not resume preceding Feeding our Future's
Speaker 2: grant applications. Although he did not do what.
Speaker 1: So he's getting money too?
Speaker 2: Oh he's paid. Oh, he's so paid. Although he did
Speaker 2: not formally order MDE to resume giving grants, he basically
Speaker 2: threatened them. He didn't order it, but he said that listen,
Speaker 2: Minnesota Department of Education, there's gonna be some real problems
Speaker 2: if y'all don't give these people day money. We didn't
Speaker 2: order it was that's one of those quid pro cro things,
Speaker 2: quid pro quo, excuse me, behind closed door talks Several
Speaker 2: months later, Guthman hailed MDE in contempt of court for
Speaker 2: processing grant applications slowly and ordered the state agency to
Speaker 2: pay a fine of forty seven one thousand, five hundred
Speaker 2: dollars to Feeding Our Future. So, even though the Minnesota
Speaker 2: Department of Education was doing their due diligence and looking
Speaker 2: into every single case before it cut a check, that
Speaker 2: same judge find them for it, for doing their job
Speaker 2: and doing their due diligence and making sure this money
Speaker 2: wasn't going to bullshit.
Speaker 1: He needs to be looked into.
Speaker 2: Ooh he does, Oh he does. So let's talk about
Speaker 2: the federal charges and legal proceedings of Feeding Our Future.
Speaker 2: In January twenty twenty two, the FBI rated a number
Speaker 2: of Feeding our Future quote unquote meal locations, and the
Speaker 2: nonprofit was disestablished shortly thereafter. A shocker I know that
Speaker 2: fall members of the organization were accused of defrauding the
Speaker 2: state USDA funded school nutrition program of at least two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars over the course of the
Speaker 2: COVID nineteen situation, led by the organization's president. Back on
Speaker 2: September twentieth of twenty twenty two, the US Attorney Andrew M.
Speaker 2: Lueger announced federal charges against forty seven former Feeding Our
Speaker 2: Future employees of their involvement in the nation's largest pandemic
Speaker 2: related fraud scheme. By October twenty twenty four, the number
Speaker 2: of indicted individuals reached seventy. In the spring of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, a group of seven defendants were the first
Speaker 2: to go to trial. Near the end of the trial,
Speaker 2: an attempt was made to bribe a juror to vote
Speaker 2: to acquit with one hundred and twenty thousand dollars in cash.
Speaker 1: Y'all, this whole thing just smells terrible, and it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: it's fine, We're just going to keep ignoring it.
Speaker 2: The juror reported the incident and was dismissed to avoid
Speaker 2: the appearance of impropriety, along with another who heard about
Speaker 2: the incident from a relative. The jury was sequestered for
Speaker 2: the remainder of the trial. Of the first seven defendants,
Speaker 2: five were convicted on most charges against them, while two
Speaker 2: were acquitted. Several weeks later, five suspects, including three of
Speaker 2: the defendants from the first trial, were indicted on charges
Speaker 2: related to the bribery. One of the individuals indicted for
Speaker 2: the bribery had been acquitted of fraud during the trial.
Speaker 2: Bro what so even one of the ones that were
Speaker 2: acquitted was found guilty of the bribery situation. All five
Speaker 2: suspects in the bribery case had pled guilty to the
Speaker 2: resulting charges by May of twenty twenty five. I mean,
Speaker 2: what are we even talking about here?
Speaker 1: I just can't make this shit up at this point.
Speaker 2: You can't. This sounds like bad daytime television. A federal
Speaker 2: court handed down the first sentence to in the scandal
Speaker 2: on October fifteenth, twenty twenty four. Mohammad Ismali received a
Speaker 2: twelve year sentence. Two of the three counts involved conspiracy. Yes,
Speaker 2: this is why we're talking about on the cult of
Speaker 2: conspiracy everybody. He was ordered to pay more than forty
Speaker 2: seven million dollars in restitution. The second trial in the
Speaker 2: case began in February twenty twenty five for Amy Bach,
Speaker 2: the ring leader of the scheme and a leading co conspirator,
Speaker 2: Salaam said. On March nineteen, twenty twenty five, Bakinside were
Speaker 2: both found guilty on all counts. Two additional suspect, the
Speaker 2: seventy first and seventy second ones that were brought in
Speaker 2: were indicted in May and June of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: One was arrested just before boarding a flight out of
Speaker 2: the United States, and the seventy third suspect was indicted
Speaker 2: in early August twenty twenty five. Yeah, he was about
Speaker 2: to high tail it out. He saw the riding on
Speaker 2: the walls. He was trying to get out and got
Speaker 2: picked up at the airport.
Speaker 1: He was close. I would have been left. I would
Speaker 1: have left at like number ten. Getting arrested, I'm like, nap,
Speaker 1: I'm out right now.
Speaker 2: But I guess they kept thinking that they could beat
Speaker 2: the case, or bribe the judge or bribe the jurors,
Speaker 2: and then whenever this got brought he's like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: out this bitch son, hocus pocus, you ain't seeing me
Speaker 2: no more, and they still snatch his ass up at
Speaker 2: the airport. In November twenty twenty five. Out of these
Speaker 2: seventy eight suspects indicted in the fraud, dozens had played
Speaker 2: guilty and seven had been found guilty at trial, while
Speaker 2: many others awaited trial. Although more than two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars is alleged to have been stolen. Only
Speaker 2: around seventy five million had been recover as of early
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, as much of the money was spent
Speaker 2: on unrecoverable expenses like luxury meals and hotels, or was
Speaker 2: transferred to overseas investments which the United States cannot cease.
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I'm gonna go ahead and talk about
Speaker 2: some of these higher profile defendants. Here. There's a list,
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to read every single one of them,
Speaker 2: but just so we're all clear about the amounts that
Speaker 2: were being stole, stolen and done here and everything. Forty
Speaker 2: year old three million dollars stolen, thirty three year old
Speaker 2: two point one million dollars, a forty year old seven
Speaker 2: point one million, a forty year old three million, fifty
Speaker 2: three year old nine point three million, let's see fifty
Speaker 2: three wire fraud of five million dollars, fifty seven wire
Speaker 2: fraud five million dollars, to conspira to commit wire fraud
Speaker 2: and money laundering five million dollars is a sixty three
Speaker 2: year old let's see. Let's go down the list here,
Speaker 2: Conspiracy to commit wire fraud, conspiracy to commit money laundering,
Speaker 2: conspiracy to commit federal programs bribery, wire fraud, bribery, money laundering,
Speaker 2: and passport fraud a thirty five year old eight million
Speaker 2: dollars is what he stole. Let's see going down here? Ooh,
Speaker 2: wire fraud eleven point four million dollars from Hodgie Salad.
Speaker 2: Dude's name is Hodgy like the jokes write them fuck
Speaker 2: himselves here. That's not even us being stilly, like what
Speaker 2: the fuck?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 2: Continuing on here, nine million dollars. Conspiracy to commit wire
Speaker 2: fraud a forty year old, last name Hussein uh to
Speaker 2: do five point five million, all the long list of
Speaker 2: things I just mentioned. So ooh this is a big one.
Speaker 2: U Ner Jasu sixty five years old, money laundering pled
Speaker 2: guilty seventeen point six million dollars.
Speaker 1: You're just trying to live his best life at his age.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's doing a thing.
Speaker 1: Why are you hating?
Speaker 2: Why are you being such a hater, dude?
Speaker 1: It'd be a potator right now.
Speaker 2: They had potatoes. They might not be so starving in
Speaker 2: this car anyway, anyway, So moving on whatever, whatever, it's fine.
Speaker 1: They had a drought, a severe drout. That's actually what
Speaker 1: kickstarted the famine.
Speaker 2: I understand that that understand that. I'm just saying, perhaps
Speaker 2: we send food their way, not money we have.
Speaker 1: We've tried, well, they can't get it in. They can't
Speaker 1: get the stuff because of piracy and all the corruption
Speaker 1: that's going on.
Speaker 2: I believe it. I absolutely believe it. Anyway. All right,
Speaker 2: So now let's let's talk about this last article here.
Speaker 2: So the anti Zionist candidate Omar Fete it is Minneapolis
Speaker 2: mayoral race to Jacob Frey. We just brought both of
Speaker 2: these individuals up when we're talking about money and laundering
Speaker 2: and fraud and wiring and all these things. Let's keep
Speaker 2: this in mind. Omar fate a Somali American Muslim and
Speaker 2: Democrat state senator known for anti Zionist views since October seventh,
Speaker 2: lost the Minneapolis mayoral race to the incumbent, Jacob Frey,
Speaker 2: a Jewish Democrat. Local Jewish leaders say the threat passed
Speaker 2: us this time. All right, So let's continue on here.
Speaker 2: After a high profile race in which was billed as
Speaker 2: the Zoramandani of Minneapolis, that's what Omar Fatee is known as,
Speaker 2: which is terrifying anti Israeli candidate Omar Fete lost the
Speaker 2: election for mayoral race in Minneapolis, Minnesota FATA, who is
Speaker 2: thirty five, a Democrat state senator known for his anti
Speaker 2: Zionist views and harsh criticisms of Israel since the Hamas
Speaker 2: October seventh attack, was defeated by the incumbent mayor, Jake
Speaker 2: of Frey, a Jewish Democrat who has hailed the post
Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen and has now won a third term. So,
Speaker 2: your dude as a state senator and he lost the
Speaker 2: mayor race, why didn't you just continue to whatever? I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know. Uh. Frey led for the
Speaker 2: first count with forty one point seven percent of the
Speaker 2: vote compared to Faatea's thirty one point six percent. Because
Speaker 2: no candidate achieved an outright majority, the city's ranked choice
Speaker 2: voting system was activated, and Fray secured a majority in
Speaker 2: the third round, confirming his reelection. So, yeah, I understand
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of people that are saying
Speaker 2: there's conspiracy on top of conspiracy on that one. And
Speaker 2: that's that's fine. It's fine. It's a thing. But yes,
Speaker 2: So as we were talking about this, a lot of
Speaker 2: mainstream media and legacy media are talking about this situation
Speaker 2: in the feeding our future fraud case, And I don't
Speaker 2: think it's misplaced, right, I think that this absolutely needs
Speaker 2: to be discussed and talked about to the maximum degrees.
Speaker 2: And now let's circle back to Trump talking about repealing
Speaker 2: his TPS right, the protected status on certain people, these
Speaker 2: temporary protected statuses that are going by the wayside. I
Speaker 2: don't actually believe that these seven hundred people that he's
Speaker 2: talking about with Somalia are going to make a whole
Speaker 2: lot of fucked ton of difference in the grand scheme
Speaker 2: of things. Now, whenever you have seventy six people, seventy
Speaker 2: eight people, and there's more, there's gonna be more that
Speaker 2: get brought in for this. But like, let's just hypothetically say,
Speaker 2: going off of ratios here, that all of this was
Speaker 2: being done by people on temporary status. They weren't. They weren't.
Speaker 2: Just so we're clear here, let's even say it's just
Speaker 2: seventy out of seven hundred, that's a pretty sizable chunk,
Speaker 2: Like that's that's not a little bit. And even if
Speaker 2: because as the numbers keep going up, it's not gonna
Speaker 2: be crazy to say that like probably one hundred people
Speaker 2: are going to be brought in for this. Maybe they'll
Speaker 2: see justice. Maybe they won't, but even.
Speaker 1: Still doesn't sound like it's a it's a part of
Speaker 1: the group.
Speaker 2: Though it doesn't.
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like it's a part. It sounds like
Speaker 1: they are local people to Minnesota that I've been there
Speaker 1: for a hot minute, that are involved in many different
Speaker 1: ways that have been there, So it doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: it's involving the actual group that we're discussing about getting
Speaker 1: deep ordered back to a place that's absolutely torn up.
Speaker 2: If anything, I'm glad that the TPS conversation is happening
Speaker 2: because it's also raising people's awareness of the fraud scandal
Speaker 2: that is going on. Because most people don't know that
Speaker 2: that was going on, and this was brought up in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three. Most people
Speaker 2: may have heard something about on the evening news, they
Speaker 2: don't know the extent of it. The only reason why
Speaker 2: there's even light being shed on it right now is
Speaker 2: because of this situation with Trump.
Speaker 1: So that's fair.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not even saying you got to take the
Speaker 2: win and the loss on that one. It is what
Speaker 2: it is. These seven hundred people, even if they do
Speaker 2: get brought back to Somalia, it's seven hundred people. Yes,
Speaker 2: I don't want anybody to go back to the war
Speaker 2: torn country except for those that deserve to go back.
Speaker 2: All these people associated with this fraud and embezzlement schemes
Speaker 2: send they ask us back.
Speaker 1: Did they actually link it with like one hundred percent
Speaker 1: with al Shabab or they just have it going to
Speaker 1: funding banks that are overseas that we can't get the
Speaker 1: money back, Like is it a confirmed link or is
Speaker 1: it a hypothetical link?
Speaker 2: So official narrative or reality narrative?
Speaker 1: It sounds like the official is that they linked it,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't sound but when we were listening, when
Speaker 1: I was listening to the articles, there's nothing that actually
Speaker 1: just expressly says they found this bank account dot dot
Speaker 1: that's linked one hundred percent to this terrorist group. It's
Speaker 1: more or less like a we think this is what's happening,
Speaker 1: and this money is unaccounted for, so we don't know
Speaker 1: where it's going and obviously it could be potentially going
Speaker 1: to al Shabab.
Speaker 2: So here all right, here, here's why I asked, are
Speaker 2: you asking for official narrative or reality? Right? So official
Speaker 2: narrative is when they wire this money overseas, it goes
Speaker 2: into a series of shell and offshore account type of things. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: when you go up that rabbit hole enough, you find
Speaker 2: that these offshore accounts and links and all these things
Speaker 2: are owned by al shabab it.
Speaker 1: I just was curious. Yea, to me, I do believe
Speaker 1: that they're funding them.
Speaker 2: But it's the same thing with the blood diamond situation. Right,
Speaker 2: technically speaking, was it the Deville Diamond Company or the
Speaker 2: Dubors Diamond Company whatever it is technically speaking official narrative, Oh,
Speaker 2: they totally are not funding warlords with slave mining of diamonds, clearly,
Speaker 2: but when you follow their trail of offshore accounts, they
Speaker 2: are absolutely directly involved in slave labor to mind diamonds. Right.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to clarify because I felt like somebody
Speaker 1: is going to ask that question, and I just was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just for the sake of clarifying what
Speaker 1: we all kind of heard in thought.
Speaker 2: So I'll say this much, if there is realistically one
Speaker 2: point seven billion dollars that was extorted from this group,
Speaker 2: and we know for sure that at least one point
Speaker 2: one billion has made its way to a Somalia in
Speaker 2: one way, shape or form or another. Couple that with
Speaker 2: the fact that even Homeland Security is saying that Al
Speaker 2: Shabab is the most well funded terrorist organization on Earth
Speaker 2: as of this moment.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, I just wanted to ask the question,
Speaker 1: post the question so that way we could have a
Speaker 1: more clarifying statement on it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and even if it's third party, let's let's even
Speaker 2: go down that hole. Even if let's say that you know,
Speaker 2: you're a Somali, a Somali American who is here legally,
Speaker 2: you've attained your citizenship all the things, and you're sending
Speaker 2: five hundred bucks a month to your family member in
Speaker 2: Somalia right now, right, and it's truly to a family member. Okay,
Speaker 2: cool when you look at it. In the average annual
Speaker 2: salary of somebody living in Somalia is six hundred dollars,
Speaker 2: and let's say you're sending them five hundred. Keep in
Speaker 2: mind that Al Shabab extorts their people, and the street
Speaker 2: tax is imposed, and there's robbery and theft and all
Speaker 2: these things. So even if it's third party, like you're
Speaker 2: sending it to your family member, but then it's getting
Speaker 2: stolen and still ending up in the pocket of al
Speaker 2: Shabab either way that gets sliced, it's still making its
Speaker 2: way into the hands of the terrorists. And that all
Speaker 2: ties into what I believe homeland security is like suggesting
Speaker 2: whenever they say that al Shabab is the most well
Speaker 2: funded terrorist group in the world as at this moment.
Speaker 1: So okay, wild things, wild things.
Speaker 2: Yep, tax dollars are being used to fund terrorism in
Speaker 2: Africa right now, and it's a it's a self perpetuating
Speaker 2: cycle because that's the same group that is ensuring that
Speaker 2: more Somalians get their way to America, which is how
Speaker 2: we ended up with old Omar in the first place,
Speaker 2: who really needs to be removed from her position and
Speaker 2: sent back to Somalia. Like that's not even a joke
Speaker 2: mm hm, But agreed anyway, good cult members, As we
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