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<v Speaker 1>Disclaimer.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd like to know before the start of this interview

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<v Speaker 2>that the opinions about to be expressed by the guest

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<v Speaker 2>of tonight's Getting Salty Experience Podcast are that of the

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<v Speaker 2>guest and do not directly or necessarily reflect the views

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<v Speaker 2>of the host of the Getting Salty Experience Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience Podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, Hello, Rouffie Referano, Oh, where oh, where is my

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<v Speaker 4>body tonight?

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<v Speaker 5>It's not him sitting there. He's a good looking guy,

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<v Speaker 5>but that's not Ruffie, as you know, is Senior dude,

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<v Speaker 5>Hank Muley filling it for my boy Ruffy Mikey Cologne

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<v Speaker 5>on the wheels of steel, filling in for Gonzo, who's

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<v Speaker 5>on another cruise. That guy does more cruising. I've never

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<v Speaker 5>seen somebody more cruises than this night, Hank.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that Chief's money.

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<v Speaker 5>That's oh, he's a big chief. I forgot right, dice

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<v Speaker 5>for filling in last minute, Senior dude. Appreciate your pleasure.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello, Hello, all my buddies out in leather head Nation

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<v Speaker 6>and basically Coolause all you did was you replaced one

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<v Speaker 6>old guinea with an older good point.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we waped swats, but Yeah, that's it. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 5>got a univerishment on tonight though. Man, yeah salty. You

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<v Speaker 5>know you say the word getting salty. What do you think,

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<v Speaker 5>Hank in a pre show? This guy is salty, right absolutely.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to tell him he got on the

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<v Speaker 5>year that I was born. I'll save that until he

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<v Speaker 5>comes in here. But guy's been just a bit. I

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<v Speaker 5>think this is the first time we had a from

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<v Speaker 5>like one of the original Squad Squad five.

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<v Speaker 6>He's has a great career, which everybody's gonna hear between

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<v Speaker 6>all the things he's done.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think he's gone to a fire or two.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll go out there and say I go on a

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<v Speaker 5>limb and say that yep, educating. Yeah. AnyWho, let's keep

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<v Speaker 5>Roofy in our press. And he had a little you

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<v Speaker 5>had a little brush. I don't want to see with

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<v Speaker 5>the Grim Reaper. But I kept telling him to stay

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<v Speaker 5>away from the light, little buddy, don't go to the light,

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<v Speaker 5>stay away from the light. He Uh, he had a

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<v Speaker 5>boobo belly. I don't know if you guys remember the

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<v Speaker 5>last show with Vinnie Dunn and then the next day, Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>I think he said he got up in the middle

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<v Speaker 5>of the night and he passed out. He puked and

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<v Speaker 5>he was bleeding internally. It was a big mess. And

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<v Speaker 5>they're still trying to figure out what's exactly going on

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<v Speaker 5>with my boys. So we wish him all the best.

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<v Speaker 5>I was clutching my beads the other night, saying, the

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<v Speaker 5>whole rosary firm hank a couple of times in a row,

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<v Speaker 5>my buddy, I mean, yes, that's that's uh, Louis, we

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<v Speaker 5>got you in our thoughts.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sure whatever this is, you'll pick it down the

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<v Speaker 7>road A little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>Back, said you know, I mean we're friends forty almost

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<v Speaker 5>forty three years with buddies. Now, man, that's a long

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<v Speaker 5>time to be friends with. Somebody can't he can't go

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<v Speaker 5>no way yet, keep on a while.

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<v Speaker 7>You sound like you're giving him one foot in the

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<v Speaker 7>grave already. Get he's going to be flying.

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<v Speaker 5>I told him, I said, good things. His daughter just

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<v Speaker 5>got accepted to a really good college. And you're not

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<v Speaker 5>taking a dirt nap, I said, So, I mean you

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<v Speaker 5>got everything go for us, right.

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<v Speaker 6>This is what happens when you get when you retired,

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<v Speaker 6>things happen, and it's just from one doctor's appointment to

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<v Speaker 6>the next doctor's appointment, right, and you play golf in between.

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<v Speaker 5>And know when you hang out with your friend, you're

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<v Speaker 5>talking about everything that hurts you. Oh yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 5>killing me.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh ship, yeah, you got a good Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 6>that's what I go to the retired meetings down here.

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<v Speaker 5>By the end of up meeting, it's hey, you got

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<v Speaker 5>a good doctor for the eyes. I got a lump

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<v Speaker 5>over here and I got to get chucked down. I

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<v Speaker 5>gotta get my knee replaced. Who's had that done? You

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<v Speaker 5>know that's what it is. That's me that's coming up soon,

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<v Speaker 5>miss the show. I'll do it. Yeah, whatever works.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro from the hospital.

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<v Speaker 5>Band baby, I'll do it from the hospital. But when

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<v Speaker 5>you get your knees done, you may be two or

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<v Speaker 5>three inches taller. I'm hoping, God, that would be great,

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't it? Wow? You know I hope that happens. Came

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<v Speaker 5>over a two week ride on a horse like definitely.

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<v Speaker 5>From people who see me in person, it looks like

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<v Speaker 5>one need's going this way, one need's going this way.

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<v Speaker 5>What's the best. Hey, let's get to all commercials because

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<v Speaker 5>I'm excited to get the lieutenant and Garrity in here.

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<v Speaker 5>They killing each other. Yeah, all right, let's play the

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<v Speaker 5>albatough really quick and then we'll bring in lieutenant.

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<v Speaker 5>Excellent, And like we told you, my man Vince, they

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<v Speaker 5>favorite word, hank free. Yeah, call up, my man, Vince said,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a tough and get yourself a full They even

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<v Speaker 5>put one in a gym. Did you see that, Mike? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna ask Gay Fox about that, but he

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't know anything about the jym Oh shot fired on

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<v Speaker 5>Gay Fox. All right, let's get him in here. Let's

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<v Speaker 5>get him to coming to the stage. This is my say.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm getting over clumped here. This is Louis Pott. I

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<v Speaker 5>get all choked up with my boys not here coming

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<v Speaker 5>to the stage. We got Lieutenant Egg get it. That

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<v Speaker 5>must that's our guy, that mustache. You see that. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know what my thing is. That's that's our logo,

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<v Speaker 5>that mustache. All right, Oh it was right behind me there.

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<v Speaker 5>It is to welcome to the show. Lieutenant.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Guys, sit back, get your shopping up, your pencils, and

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<v Speaker 5>listen to this magas you want to talk about fire duty.

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<v Speaker 5>This man has seen some fire duty, but let's start

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<v Speaker 5>the way back. Let's go back a little bit to

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<v Speaker 5>the early days of Lieutenant and Garrett. He grew up

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<v Speaker 5>in Queens and says here right, oh, time out, Mike,

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<v Speaker 5>thank you. I gotta I gotta put a pause on here.

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<v Speaker 5>We gotta get patriotic. I'm very sorry. I am remissed. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>You do what, Mike.

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<v Speaker 3>I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States

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<v Speaker 3>of America and to the Republic, for which it stands,

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<v Speaker 3>one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice.

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<v Speaker 5>For all wonderful, best country in the whole wide world.

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<v Speaker 5>Now we can get into it. Little let's go back

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<v Speaker 5>to Queens. Let's turn back the way back machine. How

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<v Speaker 5>far are we going back?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, at the beginning Long Island City is they quit

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<v Speaker 8>the projects, the Queen's Bridge projects. That's where I actually

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<v Speaker 8>grew up until I moved to Astoria.

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<v Speaker 5>A tough neighborhood, Queen's bridg projects.

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<v Speaker 8>Back in the day. It's it was, it was. It

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<v Speaker 8>was a crazy place there. It was starting to get

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<v Speaker 8>real crazy there, but it.

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<v Speaker 5>Were still with projects, big family.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh yeah. Then we moved to uh to uh story

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<v Speaker 8>around off dit Mars thirty first Street, with the l

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<v Speaker 8>ended down in department houses there, and uh, it was

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<v Speaker 8>great neighborhood to grow up, and a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Of grits back the well they came in afterwards.

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<v Speaker 8>Now afterwards, and now it's very it's international, and it's

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<v Speaker 8>all it's all young kids there today today who can

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<v Speaker 8>afford it? It's so expensive.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's right outside the city there, so it's an

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<v Speaker 8>Story is, it's a great place there. And and again

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<v Speaker 8>that's where I was appointed in sixty eight. Well, I

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<v Speaker 8>got a pointed a job in November thirty at sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 8>but we got a assigned to Angine two sixty.

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<v Speaker 5>Three, which is right in your neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 8>And it really was at the time because I stayed

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<v Speaker 8>I got married, I still stayed in the neighborhood there.

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<v Speaker 8>I was literally walking to work there, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>But you worked with Connet before that, right.

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<v Speaker 8>nineteen sixty, nineteen sixty and then uh, all you said,

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<v Speaker 8>I got that phone call that in the office. Dad,

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<v Speaker 8>the job, kid? And then what job was he talking about?

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<v Speaker 8>Because at that time. They were given a fire department.

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<v Speaker 8>They given police department, examed every Saturday. They needed so

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<v Speaker 8>many guys. They didn't charge it at all. You just

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<v Speaker 8>them I'm leaving, you know. And that's the same day

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<v Speaker 8>they went on strike. Cardy went on strike on November thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, it was very good timing for that.

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<v Speaker 5>Did we ever have a height requirement in the five part?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm pretty sure I don't think they they did.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe maybe it was. Yeah, there was a well we

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<v Speaker 8>went to Provy School in Welfare Island.

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<v Speaker 5>So it wasn't even at the Rocket. It was Welfare.

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<v Speaker 8>It wasn't the Rocket. It was it was Welfare Island.

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<v Speaker 8>And I don't remember too much doing too much isand

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<v Speaker 8>it was only like four weeks maybe nothing.

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<v Speaker 6>So so look back Welfare Island was was it was

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<v Speaker 8>No, it was, it was it was this separate island there,

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<v Speaker 8>you know.

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<v Speaker 7>And but then you have to take to take the

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 8>I had to ask somebody that make a phone call

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<v Speaker 8>the other day that you came in through Queen's I

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<v Speaker 8>believe through.

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<v Speaker 5>Twenty first Avenue there or something and you right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Right past the engine two sixty right and then rove

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<v Speaker 8>over the bridge there I believe, so far back I

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<v Speaker 5>But that was still close to you too, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>for Welfare, I was close to a storeia.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah that was you. I don't hear anybody commute. Nobody

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<v Speaker 8>really commuted that far. It seemed at the time, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>everybody lived local.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, what made you want to take the test? You

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<v Speaker 5>said you had no family on the job. Right.

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<v Speaker 8>Of course one of the other guys had taken it.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, they grew up in the building there was

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<v Speaker 8>of us took it. Everybody went every which way, you know, right,

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<v Speaker 8>It wasn't like you have private dwellings and you don't.

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<v Speaker 8>You don't know who the other people are and next

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<v Speaker 8>door to you. But when they finished Proby school, they

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<v Speaker 8>told you you have to go to your local firehouse

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<v Speaker 8>and find out where you're going. That's what they didn't

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<v Speaker 8>have the information. So he said, okay. So I went

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<v Speaker 8>to a store, knocked on the door, went in there,

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<v Speaker 8>and I told the guy were two of us, two

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<v Speaker 8>probe he's wanted to know, So we're going, He says,

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<v Speaker 8>you kidding me? He says, we're your elbows? How come

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<v Speaker 8>they're not hitting the door. I said, you have any beverages, coffee?

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<v Speaker 8>You got anything? No? He got? He says no. He says,

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<v Speaker 8>we'll get some. He says, I don't have any money

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<v Speaker 8>for it, not neither of us having any money, he says.

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<v Speaker 8>He still want to know where you're going? He says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>he says, go outside and look up and it was

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<v Speaker 8>two sixty three. Wow, that's where you're going right here,

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<v Speaker 8>he says. And he says, you didn't know that. I

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<v Speaker 8>says no. And you know who that got. I was

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<v Speaker 8>breaking our shoes. Bobby Beckworth.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>And Becky was the guy with the president standing on

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<v Speaker 8>top of the car and wow.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>So we were friends all through the years, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>just working with him and all that. And and he

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<v Speaker 8>couldn't it couldn't happened to a nicer guy. What happened

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<v Speaker 8>to him? He traveled all over the world as an

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<v Speaker 8>emissary for the fire department.

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<v Speaker 5>Did the other guy go to to sixty three?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, he went to sixty two. I believe the other

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<v Speaker 8>guy the road and uh, but that was beck With

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<v Speaker 8>That's so he only passed away a year ago. Maybe Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>he's some he was some character. But so that's how

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<v Speaker 8>we became friendly with him, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So that was one. Seventeen was the truck, Because.

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<v Speaker 8>When seventeen was the truck?

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<v Speaker 5>Were they did they have the wall there were they

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<v Speaker 5>step back then.

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<v Speaker 8>They had the wall and all that, so we were

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<v Speaker 8>it's a great house. All guys are great. A lot

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<v Speaker 8>of old timers in the house. And then they started

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<v Speaker 8>the interchange where you were. Every third night we went

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<v Speaker 8>up to the Bronx, so the Cosa Kaka that's that's

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<v Speaker 8>what they called it. The guys, and uh, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 8>sometimes you know, there's a lot of guys didn't Some

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<v Speaker 8>guys didn't want to go up there, you know, like

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<v Speaker 8>on a Saturday night. I remember putting a neutral on

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<v Speaker 8>the board there to get off on a Saturday night

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<v Speaker 8>and it was it was an interchange night, and they

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<v Speaker 8>were all laughing like nobody was going to Some many did,

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<v Speaker 8>of course, but so many all times there for thirty years,

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<v Speaker 8>they didn't particularly care for it up there because there

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<v Speaker 8>was a different world up there on a weekend and

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<v Speaker 8>uh in the summertime there's people everywhere, there's fires everywhere.

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<v Speaker 8>The truck was there, forty two trucks, Squad two seventy three,

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<v Speaker 8>and uh, it was it was just crazy crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>As a young guy on the job, did you did

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<v Speaker 6>you enjoy going up there because of because of the

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<v Speaker 6>fire duty.

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<v Speaker 5>Were you looking to do that.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, it just it was a different world. It

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<v Speaker 8>was a different world than we were used to. And

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<v Speaker 8>we had a couple of young guys that liked to

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<v Speaker 8>go up so, uh, you know we went up there

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<v Speaker 8>when we put in the mutual, we take a mutually

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<v Speaker 8>just to go up there.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, right, I was going to ask, did you

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<v Speaker 6>see like the young guys would grab a mutual so

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<v Speaker 6>they could go up to the bronx to try to

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<v Speaker 6>catch from Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>They did. We really enjoyed it and all the stories

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<v Speaker 8>you heard about it, and you know, forty two trucks

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<v Speaker 8>was a nice, nicer place with seventy three and the

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<v Speaker 8>squad there. It was just crazy. The the the dishwasher

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<v Speaker 8>used to empty right on the floor. The cabinets, none

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<v Speaker 8>of them my doors on it.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 8>Some of the old timers there who us, they would

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<v Speaker 8>never sit on a couch or anything. They never went

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<v Speaker 8>up to the bunk room. They just sat on a

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<v Speaker 8>hard chair like those school chairs, you know. And uh,

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<v Speaker 8>it's been the night. There went a lot of fires.

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<v Speaker 5>Just you remember your first fire in two sixty three.

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<v Speaker 8>Actually the first fire had it was an accident under

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<v Speaker 8>Grand Central Parkway where a couple of people died, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>and I guys doing like CPR on people. Uh, just

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<v Speaker 8>before we used to do it with the cfr D

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<v Speaker 8>or anything. And uh, that was I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 8>pretty bad that one. And the fire, it was just

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<v Speaker 8>a basic fire. Had nothing to remember, you know, it

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<v Speaker 8>was just that small house fire in any area there.

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<v Speaker 8>But it's a great house. The guys were great, right,

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<v Speaker 8>and uh, but it were different, the office different. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>you're up in the bronx. There was just it's great

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<v Speaker 8>fire officers, great fire officers. And stayed there a couple

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<v Speaker 8>of years and then uh, I went up to Squad five.

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<v Speaker 8>We got not that we put in for it. I

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<v Speaker 8>put in for a couple of houses. But that was

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<v Speaker 8>the big lift. All the second sections were being closed.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's an original squad. Look at that.

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<v Speaker 5>What what did you guys have? What kind of read had?

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<v Speaker 8>We had a regular pumper? Yeah? Where did you get that?

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know where they got that picture from.

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<v Speaker 5>I sent it. I sent it to mine. You got

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<v Speaker 5>you went in there in seventy four.

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<v Speaker 8>You went to Squad five, right, correct, And it was

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<v Speaker 8>the mixture of guys transferred in.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 8>Some guys were left over from from forty one dash

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<v Speaker 8>too and h and and some guys from forty one

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<v Speaker 8>stayed there and then in the squad there.

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<v Speaker 5>So but so it was in forty one quarters.

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<v Speaker 8>Squad five forty one quarters. Characters came in, Uh that

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<v Speaker 8>came in from other companies and all that, and uh

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<v Speaker 8>it seems like, uh, some guys got there for punishment,

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<v Speaker 8>you know when I did hear that.

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<v Speaker 5>They would send guys to the squad for punishments.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's what the story was. And there are a

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<v Speaker 8>couple of characters there. And we had one lieutenant that

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<v Speaker 8>got jammed up in Queen's there and uh they sent

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<v Speaker 8>him up there. So he was he was very bitter

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<v Speaker 8>and uh he's always cursing everybody out and all that.

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<v Speaker 8>Great officer, he did his job and all that, but

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<v Speaker 8>he was disgruntled. Well, yeah, that that's that's what he's

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<v Speaker 8>for punishment.

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<v Speaker 7>Did you guys do regular you know six by nine

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<v Speaker 7>and nine by six tours and we're.

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<v Speaker 8>Still in that six by nine and yeah, two day

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<v Speaker 8>tours to night to us, so they still didn't get

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<v Speaker 8>into twenty four.

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<v Speaker 5>And how were you operating?

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<v Speaker 6>Were you just going to you know a ten seventy

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<v Speaker 6>five you would go to a job stretch a line.

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<v Speaker 8>With the point we go into forty one engine at

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<v Speaker 8>six o'clock. At six thirty we'd leave. We'd go to

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<v Speaker 8>eighty two engine. Eighty two engine would go to Queen's

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<v Speaker 8>on the interchange, a interchange with two ninety five. So

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<v Speaker 8>when two ninety five came up, we left and we

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<v Speaker 8>went to ninety two engine and ninety two went in

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<v Speaker 8>the back and we went ninety two for the up

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<v Speaker 8>till midnight. That's what we did.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember night about midnight, right, so midnight we.

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<v Speaker 8>Were back to forty one and we only went to

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<v Speaker 8>ten seventy fives. Yeah, and what was you.

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<v Speaker 5>Roll at the ten seventy five five needed?

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<v Speaker 8>As soon as they came in, we'd go. And they

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<v Speaker 8>always had that expression take up squad. That was us.

423
00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:51.279
<v Speaker 8>They We always took up right away as soon as

424
00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:53.759
<v Speaker 8>the fire was under control, because we would go to

425
00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:57.359
<v Speaker 8>another one very shortly. And all that, you know, and.

426
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<v Speaker 5>How would you operate there? Would you operate as an engine?

427
00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:01.319
<v Speaker 5>Would you do it an engine?

428
00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:06.160
<v Speaker 8>It's an engine? Yeah? And the I remember Chief Griffin,

429
00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:08.519
<v Speaker 8>he was up there. He's an old timer. He's always

430
00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:10.960
<v Speaker 8>come over to us and take up squad, you know,

431
00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:13.359
<v Speaker 8>and we go back and go to the next ten

432
00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:15.920
<v Speaker 8>seventy five. We do that all night, you know.

433
00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:18.440
<v Speaker 5>So how many seventy five would you go to in

434
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<v Speaker 5>a night.

435
00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:22.960
<v Speaker 8>We'd got you've got three or four maybe, uh, you

436
00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:26.960
<v Speaker 8>know five, some you wouldn't work at, you know, but

437
00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:29.799
<v Speaker 8>uh uh we went automatically to them.

438
00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:32.599
<v Speaker 7>You know, were you stretching your own line off of

439
00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:34.640
<v Speaker 7>your rig or you stretch it off at the.

440
00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:38.720
<v Speaker 8>Times most sometimes, but other times you take whatever's closer

441
00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:41.319
<v Speaker 8>to the fire. So we get out of there. You know,

442
00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:44.759
<v Speaker 8>if you get tied up, you know, hooked up, you'll

443
00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:49.200
<v Speaker 8>never get out of there. Or that right, then we

444
00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:52.759
<v Speaker 8>do the opposite thing. We go to ninety two engine.

445
00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:56.319
<v Speaker 8>They did interchange with a company, uh, I don't know where.

446
00:23:56.319 --> 00:24:00.559
<v Speaker 8>They'd go up in North Manhattan, uh, North Bronx, and

447
00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:03.880
<v Speaker 8>then we'd be ninety two. And then when the company

448
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.839
<v Speaker 8>interchange company came, we'd leave and when we'd go to

449
00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:13.000
<v Speaker 8>eighty two or sometimes a different company. But we spent

450
00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:15.000
<v Speaker 8>a lot of time in eighty two, and they'd go

451
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.359
<v Speaker 8>in the back and we'd be first up for eighty

452
00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:22.079
<v Speaker 8>two unless you got a job somewhere, and everybody would go.

453
00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:25.720
<v Speaker 8>But a lot of time we leave, did.

454
00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:28.640
<v Speaker 6>They go to the back You mean they would actually

455
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:30.839
<v Speaker 6>back there, ring on the back of the apparatus floor,

456
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:32.319
<v Speaker 6>and you guys were in front of them.

457
00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:34.519
<v Speaker 5>And I don't think a lot of guys understand it.

458
00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:35.000
<v Speaker 5>That's what I was.

459
00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:37.400
<v Speaker 7>That's what I was getting from it, that you know.

460
00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:41.200
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they were out of service, and like yeah, and

461
00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:44.240
<v Speaker 8>then we'd be first up. Then we'd be the first

462
00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:47.720
<v Speaker 8>wait till till midnight. Then we'd go to eighty five engine.

463
00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:50.279
<v Speaker 8>They were in the tinhouse there on Boston Road, the

464
00:24:50.359 --> 00:24:53.799
<v Speaker 8>same thing there, fifty nine trucks there and I don't

465
00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:55.519
<v Speaker 8>even how we squeezed all the rigs in. But then

466
00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:57.519
<v Speaker 8>then we have eighty five and then it was us

467
00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:01.559
<v Speaker 8>and we'd be we'd taken eighty five roun until midnight.

468
00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.440
<v Speaker 5>And uh, and you guys would be jumping around all

469
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<v Speaker 5>over the place.

470
00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:07.519
<v Speaker 8>You never knew, well, well, you're gonna have a meal.

471
00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:09.200
<v Speaker 5>I was just gonna tell you, how do you have

472
00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:11.440
<v Speaker 5>the meal? You know, you never knew what you're eating.

473
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:14.079
<v Speaker 8>Right eating and you don't know, you know, And that

474
00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:17.160
<v Speaker 8>happened a lot. Sometimes we'd flag it and just get

475
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:20.400
<v Speaker 8>sandwiches somewhere or you'd go back there and wrap up

476
00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:22.920
<v Speaker 8>the food and bring it, bring it to the uh

477
00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:26.359
<v Speaker 8>you know, forty one's engines quarters there and then go

478
00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:29.799
<v Speaker 8>to fifty Engine was the best because they had the

479
00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:32.960
<v Speaker 8>old house. They had a three story extension where they

480
00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:38.279
<v Speaker 8>built and you had uh uh volleyball they played in there.

481
00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:41.599
<v Speaker 8>They played paddle ball, and they had a gold room

482
00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:44.960
<v Speaker 8>they called it where they played cards. Guys in forty

483
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:47.759
<v Speaker 8>one in the squad they were in the game masters,

484
00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:51.160
<v Speaker 8>you know, and they played it all day and all

485
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:54.359
<v Speaker 8>night sometimes, you know. And that they played in fifty

486
00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:58.920
<v Speaker 8>and fifty Engine had the deputies, even the quarters they

487
00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:03.279
<v Speaker 8>had by fart. It's familiar. At the time, it was

488
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:04.240
<v Speaker 8>the best house.

489
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:05.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

490
00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:09.119
<v Speaker 8>And when he and he finally disbanded it, uh there

491
00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:13.160
<v Speaker 8>you go, finally disbanded, they said where do you guys

492
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:15.119
<v Speaker 8>want to go? Anywhere you want to go, And I

493
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:18.119
<v Speaker 8>went to fifty cut right to the short or not.

494
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:22.759
<v Speaker 8>But uh, deputies were there, the lieutenants there. At my

495
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.279
<v Speaker 8>tennis there were Tom Martin and you know tomt Bob Love,

496
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:29.279
<v Speaker 8>remember Bob Love he was.

497
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:31.839
<v Speaker 7>I've heard their names, but they were a little before me.

498
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.039
<v Speaker 7>I got on seventy nine, so they were before me.

499
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:38.799
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they were. They were legends and all that, and uh,

500
00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:41.880
<v Speaker 8>both of them and the deputies were there were the best.

501
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:47.519
<v Speaker 8>They were the real old times Nemechick, check Bill Burke.

502
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:49.559
<v Speaker 8>They were old timers.

503
00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:52.200
<v Speaker 5>And you have a lot of World War Two vets

504
00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:53.920
<v Speaker 5>as uh as.

505
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:57.039
<v Speaker 8>The old time guess those guys were, yeah, because I

506
00:26:57.079 --> 00:26:58.920
<v Speaker 8>mean they were old timers to me when I go

507
00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:01.440
<v Speaker 8>into the ice, you know, they were they were being

508
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:08.839
<v Speaker 8>old and they were great. They were just super. And

509
00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:12.160
<v Speaker 8>so they said when you when you when you transferred, uh,

510
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.039
<v Speaker 8>where do you want to go? And everybody got their

511
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:17.319
<v Speaker 8>spot and then I went to fifty and all that

512
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:21.359
<v Speaker 8>just it was a great house, you know, still is.

513
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:23.920
<v Speaker 8>My son was the captain of that. He just my

514
00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:26.839
<v Speaker 8>son just retired and he was the captain of Vengured fifty.

515
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:28.720
<v Speaker 5>Really, oh that's great.

516
00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:33.119
<v Speaker 8>They gave that up. And yeah, and I worked in

517
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:38.279
<v Speaker 8>the truck any engine, Yeah what truck was in with

518
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:40.079
<v Speaker 8>them in nineteen nineteen truck.

519
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:43.440
<v Speaker 7>Okay, that's a busy place, right.

520
00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:48.880
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, still busy and uh, very busy the engines up there.

521
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:50.359
<v Speaker 8>That's all that.

522
00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:53.119
<v Speaker 6>So so even though you got to play cards and volleyball,

523
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:58.200
<v Speaker 6>it was a lot of interrupted games, interrupted meals too.

524
00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:02.039
<v Speaker 8>Right meals. And I was in there. I just joined

525
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:04.240
<v Speaker 8>the band and I carried used to carry my pipes

526
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:06.279
<v Speaker 8>with me, and I always put them on the bed,

527
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.720
<v Speaker 8>the hose bed. And he said, with all the places

528
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.200
<v Speaker 8>we go to, and it's parked a block away from

529
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.000
<v Speaker 8>the fire, and you know, the shelf would leave it

530
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:18.039
<v Speaker 8>there and everybody go to the fire, and I somehow

531
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:22.039
<v Speaker 8>nobody had the kids used to climb the never.

532
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.519
<v Speaker 5>H never touched it, never took it the.

533
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:27.799
<v Speaker 8>The point and say, what what is that in there?

534
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:31.240
<v Speaker 8>You know? But then I stopped bringing them to the

535
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:35.920
<v Speaker 8>What year in the band form? The band started in

536
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:39.480
<v Speaker 8>nineteen sixty two. I started in seven, nineteen seventy five.

537
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:42.920
<v Speaker 5>Did you play the pipes? Did you play the pipes

538
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:44.680
<v Speaker 5>before that? Or you learned to play?

539
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:47.200
<v Speaker 8>Oh no, I was playing at seventy five. You had

540
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:50.880
<v Speaker 8>to learn on your own. And what happened and was

541
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:54.440
<v Speaker 8>when I was in the squad in between tours, a

542
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.599
<v Speaker 8>lot of times it's a good time to go out somewhere,

543
00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:01.839
<v Speaker 8>you know. We used to go to sometimes the Long

544
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:05.599
<v Speaker 8>Beach because with the guy fireman on Kenny McGuire owned

545
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:08.599
<v Speaker 8>the chances used to hang out in Chances for the

546
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:12.039
<v Speaker 8>data and then come back in that night, which is.

547
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:14.000
<v Speaker 5>I live right down the block from there.

548
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:19.440
<v Speaker 8>Really, yeah, that is it was Kenny McGuire was a fireman,

549
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:20.240
<v Speaker 8>a nineteen truck.

550
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:23.440
<v Speaker 5>Those are so many five in the Low Beach, always

551
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:23.799
<v Speaker 5>has been.

552
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:24.000
<v Speaker 6>Man.

553
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:27.440
<v Speaker 8>Yeah. But instead of I'd go out once in a while,

554
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.640
<v Speaker 8>I couldn't afford to do that anymore. I'd go I'd

555
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.920
<v Speaker 8>go to to take private lessons with the bagpipes for

556
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.799
<v Speaker 8>the guy from an old time from the Transit Arty,

557
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:39.240
<v Speaker 8>and I'd go to his house up in the North

558
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:42.519
<v Speaker 8>Bronx there and spend the day with him playing pipes

559
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:42.960
<v Speaker 8>and all that.

560
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:46.559
<v Speaker 5>And then how long were you in the Badfoot you

561
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.799
<v Speaker 5>whole career from seventy fiftieth.

562
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:53.160
<v Speaker 8>I'm the senior paper there anyway, and the senior drummer

563
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.160
<v Speaker 8>is I think you guys know Tom mctigue right, Yeah,

564
00:29:57.880 --> 00:29:59.119
<v Speaker 8>got him on the show with his roll.

565
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:03.400
<v Speaker 5>I heard not crazy man. I came on in a

566
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:05.559
<v Speaker 5>robe and I don't even know what kind of hattie

567
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.039
<v Speaker 5>had all he was nuts.

568
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:12.559
<v Speaker 8>You never know with Tom, you never know. That reminds

569
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:14.440
<v Speaker 8>me here that he's a senior guy in the band.

570
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:16.960
<v Speaker 5>Oh he throws that at you every once in a while.

571
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.200
<v Speaker 5>He's I said.

572
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:23.960
<v Speaker 8>We'm a senior piper, a tough time marching anymore. But

573
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.079
<v Speaker 8>I still play with the guys in the you know,

574
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:27.240
<v Speaker 8>the funerals and all that.

575
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:29.279
<v Speaker 5>You still go out huh wow.

576
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:34.759
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, oh yeah, and uh that's a whole new story.

577
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.599
<v Speaker 8>I mean I get to two podcasts on that. Uh,

578
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.319
<v Speaker 8>on the band itself, all the places we've been, you know,

579
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:46.240
<v Speaker 8>just uh mago there's a picture of the band. Yeah

580
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:49.519
<v Speaker 8>and naturally nine to eleven. All the funerals we did,

581
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:56.279
<v Speaker 8>oh my god. Yeah, we did every every funeral, every plaque, dedication, memorial.

582
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:58.000
<v Speaker 5>Service, street dedications.

583
00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:01.400
<v Speaker 8>They still do and it never end. And streets, like

584
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:03.799
<v Speaker 8>I said, street we just had one for Becky Becky

585
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:08.759
<v Speaker 8>Bobby beckw With just a month or two ago. But

586
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.680
<v Speaker 8>you know, after the funerals, you know, he said they

587
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:18.720
<v Speaker 8>didn't find anybody when they did find uh parts there

588
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:19.960
<v Speaker 8>and they'd have another.

589
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:22.400
<v Speaker 5>Funeral the yep.

590
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 8>So it uh and they're still doing it. You know.

591
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:28.799
<v Speaker 5>So you got any fires that stand out to you

592
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:31.759
<v Speaker 5>while you're in the squad that you can recall it.

593
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.640
<v Speaker 8>Ah, there was a lot of a lot of fires

594
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.799
<v Speaker 8>that something we just learned recently there with my son

595
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.559
<v Speaker 8>Tim and all that. How I forget how these to operate.

596
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.960
<v Speaker 8>They forty one would so squad squad picked that up

597
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:51.480
<v Speaker 8>till they'd go to a fire and two guys would

598
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:53.839
<v Speaker 8>jump out, grab the line and go right in the building.

599
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:57.319
<v Speaker 8>You don't even know what happened. And the other guys,

600
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.599
<v Speaker 8>two guys were putting masks on, you know, getting and

601
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 8>then helped them stretch him. But that's how they got it.

602
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 8>They get, you know, into the fire. So if you

603
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:09.039
<v Speaker 8>came in as the third or fourth guy with a

604
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:11.519
<v Speaker 8>with with a mask, you're going to get a piece

605
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:13.920
<v Speaker 8>of that fire. Because the other two guys had nothing.

606
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:15.839
<v Speaker 5>You know, they're gonna get the ship beat out of him.

607
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:20.839
<v Speaker 8>And they did, and they did and and uh so

608
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:23.599
<v Speaker 8>we get a piece of a lot of fires there.

609
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:27.359
<v Speaker 8>The one fire that stands out which somebody just gave

610
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:32.920
<v Speaker 8>me the address, the date nineteen seventy seven, the Yankee

611
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:36.359
<v Speaker 8>Stadium fire. And the howard goes sell.

612
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:38.680
<v Speaker 5>What he says, there's a fire. Oh yeah, I just

613
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 5>showed my kids.

614
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 8>I was detailed a fifty five truck that night and

615
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:46.359
<v Speaker 8>we went when we went to the fire, there they

616
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.680
<v Speaker 8>were remounted a lot. Yeah, I remember this guy. I

617
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:52.640
<v Speaker 8>saw al Reese, he was from nineteen go through one

618
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:57.880
<v Speaker 8>of those big windows and into the building. As soon

619
00:32:57.880 --> 00:32:59.880
<v Speaker 8>as he's in a couple of minutes and the whole

620
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:03.680
<v Speaker 8>floor lit up. Must get all kerosene or diesel oil

621
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:07.000
<v Speaker 8>or whatever. You could see the flames running across the floor.

622
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.799
<v Speaker 8>And he was in there. He started getting roof ropes

623
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:13.279
<v Speaker 8>to try to rescue him if they could find him.

624
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.440
<v Speaker 8>Then he jumped out another window and he came out,

625
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:18.799
<v Speaker 8>and uh, that was the end of out. They told

626
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:21.079
<v Speaker 8>us to get rid of our rigs and just put

627
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:23.960
<v Speaker 8>towel out us there and we went around the corner

628
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:27.680
<v Speaker 8>to a bodega, and uh we watched the World Series

629
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:31.440
<v Speaker 8>and the fire from that and the whole building, the

630
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:35.240
<v Speaker 8>whole school was on fire. And the whole country saw this.

631
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:38.799
<v Speaker 8>So if anybody thought that the Bronx wasn't burning, and

632
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.079
<v Speaker 8>I was an eye opener, you know.

633
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:45.039
<v Speaker 5>That what what did that look like back in the seventies,

634
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.920
<v Speaker 5>It had to look like somebody had mentioned to me,

635
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:54.279
<v Speaker 5>it looked like like post World War two. That's what

636
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:54.799
<v Speaker 5>it looked like.

637
00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:58.000
<v Speaker 8>Is that is that the actual pictures there?

638
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:00.839
<v Speaker 1>This I have it on mute.

639
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:05.599
<v Speaker 5>It's sixteen minutes, it's on TV.

640
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.559
<v Speaker 8>And this whole building is burning. And you know what,

641
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:11.639
<v Speaker 8>there are a lot of schools in the South Bronx

642
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 8>that they just swalked away from. They locked the door

643
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:18.039
<v Speaker 8>and just left it and people got in there. It

644
00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:20.800
<v Speaker 8>wasn't much to burning, man, because they were fireproof, but

645
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:26.320
<v Speaker 8>all the furnishings in there were taken run, you know,

646
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:28.960
<v Speaker 8>just the people just went in there and took everything

647
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:33.280
<v Speaker 8>that wasn't nailed down. It was amazing, right, And.

648
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 6>Look, just just to clarify for everybody listening, and you said,

649
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:39.039
<v Speaker 6>the first two guys would just grabbed the line and go,

650
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:41.599
<v Speaker 6>and then the three and four man with you know,

651
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:45.719
<v Speaker 6>the control and the door man. Back then you didn't

652
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:48.119
<v Speaker 6>have the four point five strapped you know behind you.

653
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:52.079
<v Speaker 6>That was when the wind bowing and the three and

654
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:54.239
<v Speaker 6>four man used to have to take the old scots

655
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:58.079
<v Speaker 6>and the suitcases, right, yeah, you know the two point

656
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.320
<v Speaker 6>two's with the you know, with the with the fighter

657
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:03.000
<v Speaker 6>web straps on, and you know it was a whole

658
00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 6>rigamarole to put that mask on. That's why the first

659
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.039
<v Speaker 6>two guys wanted to go and get the line, go

660
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:08.760
<v Speaker 6>get water, on the Yeah.

661
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:12.599
<v Speaker 8>And they did too, and they had a lot of

662
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:16.920
<v Speaker 8>good like the firemen from forty one engine and forty

663
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:21.239
<v Speaker 8>one two and and uh, you know, it was a

664
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:26.039
<v Speaker 8>different world, right, I think tough guys. It's a lot

665
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:28.199
<v Speaker 8>of characters too, a lot of characters.

666
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

667
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:32.119
<v Speaker 6>I remember when I got and they were just at

668
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 6>that point the four point five said come in, and

669
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.159
<v Speaker 6>I think the nozzle in the backup had them, and

670
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:37.840
<v Speaker 6>if you had.

671
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 5>Three or four you still had to go for the suitcase.

672
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:43.639
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I was seventy nine, and then shortly after that

673
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:45.880
<v Speaker 6>everybody started having the four point You.

674
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:48.679
<v Speaker 5>Were riding the backstep when you got on, right now, Yeah, yeah,

675
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:49.280
<v Speaker 5>both of you.

676
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:52.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well they at that point they didn't want you

677
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.480
<v Speaker 6>riding the backstep, but it was it was kind of like,

678
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:56.480
<v Speaker 6>we don't want you doing it, but we don't.

679
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:57.960
<v Speaker 5>See you doing it. So got you know, at least

680
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:00.599
<v Speaker 5>in the ghetto as you were doing it. Then, you know,

681
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:03.440
<v Speaker 5>then a year or two and then that was you

682
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:05.360
<v Speaker 5>must have been doing that the whole time though, right.

683
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:09.119
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, just about the whole time. I can still remember

684
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:13.760
<v Speaker 8>he had they had rigs uncovered. That was the You

685
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:17.400
<v Speaker 8>couldn't interchange it unless you had a covered rig. It

686
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:20.559
<v Speaker 8>was I don't know what they had on. I don't

687
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 8>remember that.

688
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.800
<v Speaker 6>But there was I think I remember seeing some old

689
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:26.920
<v Speaker 6>rigs with like a plywood canopy.

690
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the flywood box over over the seats. You know.

691
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:37.280
<v Speaker 8>Times, and we had so many guys there. You get detailed,

692
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:39.400
<v Speaker 8>you one of your second first tour or second tour

693
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:41.880
<v Speaker 8>and all that. And I used to get detailed to

694
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:45.440
<v Speaker 8>seventy three engine. Uh like, so I tell you when

695
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:47.719
<v Speaker 8>and they did the hinter change. They wouldn't I wouldn't

696
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:50.400
<v Speaker 8>go on in the change. They leave me back. And

697
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:52.920
<v Speaker 8>when they two sixty three came in, now I was

698
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.199
<v Speaker 8>the c and I showing them where all the boxes

699
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:56.639
<v Speaker 8>are because a lot of guys didn't know that.

700
00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:58.639
<v Speaker 5>You know, oh that's what you wrote here the CEE

701
00:36:58.679 --> 00:36:59.559
<v Speaker 5>and I doing right.

702
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:04.800
<v Speaker 8>Let's be an tonight and uh it's stayed behind the

703
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.519
<v Speaker 8>show for there in the compartment and just tell them

704
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:08.400
<v Speaker 8>where to go and all that.

705
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:10.280
<v Speaker 5>You were a human rat card.

706
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:16.199
<v Speaker 8>Yeah. The guys I worked with in the story, you know. Yeah,

707
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:24.000
<v Speaker 8>but the offices were really uh good stories. Yeah, so

708
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:28.440
<v Speaker 8>we uh they changed the format with the squad so

709
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:30.639
<v Speaker 8>many times. A lot of times we just went to

710
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 8>forty one engine and just went in in the front

711
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:40.119
<v Speaker 8>for them and uh and you know they listened to

712
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:43.519
<v Speaker 8>job somewhere and everybody went and off. But they saw

713
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:47.480
<v Speaker 8>it a something else which I remember the like I say,

714
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:50.840
<v Speaker 8>it happened to be a company forty four engine in

715
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.880
<v Speaker 8>he's seventy fifth Street, Matt there was. They had only

716
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:57.239
<v Speaker 8>one man coming in, one officer, one man. So instead

717
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:01.400
<v Speaker 8>of trying to get guys higher, they transfer them out

718
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:05.480
<v Speaker 8>for the day and we became forty four engine. We

719
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.480
<v Speaker 8>drove down to seventy fifth Street. Now, now you get

720
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:11.639
<v Speaker 8>all that time working in the ghetto, especially in the

721
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:15.360
<v Speaker 8>South Bronx there and all that, and you run the

722
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.000
<v Speaker 8>apron now of seventy five engine a nice day, I

723
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:23.119
<v Speaker 8>mean you get the best ape apron going and everybody

724
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:29.400
<v Speaker 8>hung out outside of course, yeah, targets everybody. And what

725
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:35.039
<v Speaker 8>happened after a few tours after we did that, we

726
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:39.880
<v Speaker 8>got a call from the deputy he's no more going

727
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:44.599
<v Speaker 8>into midtown like that because he said James Cagney made

728
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:48.800
<v Speaker 8>it a complaint. Yeah, he said, there's a bunch of

729
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:52.119
<v Speaker 8>slobs standing out front of quarters there. Of course, everybody

730
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:56.960
<v Speaker 8>is dressing us denim jackets and open boots and they

731
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:01.239
<v Speaker 8>you know, they had the ghetto ghetto look and all that. Yeah,

732
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:04.320
<v Speaker 8>and they and they plaint there. So that was the

733
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.679
<v Speaker 8>the and they're doing that, and we stayed in the Bronx.

734
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:12.760
<v Speaker 5>Mike Milner says, hello, ed, it's electric head. Mike.

735
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:22.920
<v Speaker 8>Mike was a nineteen truck guy with Mike Jericho Fire Department. Maury, yep,

736
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:25.280
<v Speaker 8>is that the one with the green fenders?

737
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:36.239
<v Speaker 5>Maybe, yes, it's green fenders on it the bumpers and yeah.

738
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:38.360
<v Speaker 8>That that was that. We got this brand new rig

739
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:40.079
<v Speaker 8>in the quarters.

740
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:42.719
<v Speaker 5>Look at the buildings behind it, all burnt out.

741
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:48.679
<v Speaker 8>And the Captain Tony Alva, he was a legend up there.

742
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:51.280
<v Speaker 8>He took the rig to a shop and they had

743
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:55.960
<v Speaker 8>the the bumpers painted green. It's a great idea because

744
00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:58.400
<v Speaker 8>a lot of guys are Irish and the company and uh,

745
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:01.719
<v Speaker 8>you know they were they thought it was the greatest idea,

746
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.000
<v Speaker 8>he said. And we walked to the rock for training

747
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:07.320
<v Speaker 8>and all that, and Dudley Class sees it. He's the

748
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:10.599
<v Speaker 8>chief of training and he just said, like what is that?

749
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:13.679
<v Speaker 8>You know, like, are you kidding me? They went back

750
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:17.000
<v Speaker 8>to the quarters that day, the shops came and took

751
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:22.519
<v Speaker 8>the off and they had the repainted it and brought

752
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:26.239
<v Speaker 8>it back and then he wanted a letter sent to

753
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:30.440
<v Speaker 8>him chief of Training and why they did that. So

754
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.760
<v Speaker 8>Tony Alder and a couple of guys they made this

755
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:37.159
<v Speaker 8>letter and uh they was singing the last all the

756
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.400
<v Speaker 8>time there and all that, and they didn't want to

757
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:43.159
<v Speaker 8>do it. They were testing, and he says, you got

758
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:45.719
<v Speaker 8>to do it. He's the chief of Training. It's the

759
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:48.639
<v Speaker 8>right thing to do. So he did it. And then

760
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:53.480
<v Speaker 8>we got a uh uh picture of Kermit the frog

761
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 8>from chief who's the commissioner in chief? Hines, Joe Hines, George.

762
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:04.679
<v Speaker 8>It's sorry, guys, but it's not easy being green nones.

763
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:09.559
<v Speaker 8>You know. He wanted to let us keep it through,

764
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:12.760
<v Speaker 8>but he didn't want to buck his his staff. Guys.

765
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.400
<v Speaker 8>That just happened. That's why that picture. So if you

766
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:18.639
<v Speaker 8>have a picture of that that only lasted a month,

767
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:19.760
<v Speaker 8>maybe that's it.

768
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:21.400
<v Speaker 5>And you got a picture of it. Who got the picture?

769
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:25.599
<v Speaker 8>Joe Pinto probably did it. You know. Joe Pinto, he

770
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:28.400
<v Speaker 8>was in a couple of he's a buff and he

771
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.719
<v Speaker 8>takes all the photos of all the rigs and all that,

772
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:36.639
<v Speaker 8>so he that's his picture there's I'm sure it's his

773
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 8>pride and joy. I think.

774
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:41.800
<v Speaker 5>When you were in the squad, did they ride with

775
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 5>the same designations as they do in the engine? You

776
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:46.760
<v Speaker 5>had a chauffeur, you had an alvel man back up.

777
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.639
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it was yeah, it was the same same thing.

778
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:54.719
<v Speaker 5>It was just and did they did they ever put

779
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:56.159
<v Speaker 5>you to work as a truck going now?

780
00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:01.000
<v Speaker 8>Uh? I think once? Uh one of the guys, Uh,

781
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:03.440
<v Speaker 8>the chiefs there just told us to go in there

782
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:07.800
<v Speaker 8>and get a couple of tools. We carry tools, but

783
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:09.880
<v Speaker 8>not very often there, you know.

784
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:12.880
<v Speaker 5>So it's most of the engine stuff, just engine.

785
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.280
<v Speaker 8>But we did a lot lot of a lot of running,

786
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.960
<v Speaker 8>a lot of running around and it was fun. I mean,

787
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.519
<v Speaker 8>we had a really really good time. And the officers.

788
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:29.119
<v Speaker 8>Remember our captain was Irving Schneider. He's a Jewish captain

789
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:33.840
<v Speaker 8>and he was from Staten Island. And he said, how

790
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:35.280
<v Speaker 8>did he have to get to the squad? What did

791
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.239
<v Speaker 8>he do to get to the squad? Because he used

792
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:39.199
<v Speaker 8>to come in there all the time and come into

793
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:41.320
<v Speaker 8>the kitchen and he says, you Irish guys, you know,

794
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:44.599
<v Speaker 8>he'd be shaking his head all the time and laughing,

795
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.199
<v Speaker 8>and uh, like you said he got the spot there.

796
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:54.519
<v Speaker 8>It's very unusual there. And we had Jim Healy, Jimmy

797
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:59.039
<v Speaker 8>Heally who became a deputy, Marty Ughs and the lieutenant

798
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:03.159
<v Speaker 8>Marty Ughes he became a chief and uh and and

799
00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:09.440
<v Speaker 8>Tom Fenton is there. Oh, good offices, you know.

800
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:13.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, do you think you caught you you saw your

801
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:15.880
<v Speaker 5>most fire in the squad or somewhere else.

802
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:19.559
<v Speaker 8>Probably when in on the interchange with seventy three engine

803
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:24.320
<v Speaker 8>going back there some nights. We just we had a

804
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:26.320
<v Speaker 8>couple of young guys there. We would never tap out,

805
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:29.239
<v Speaker 8>but everybody else the officers tap out all the time

806
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:31.760
<v Speaker 8>to get the tour off or they get two hours

807
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:35.639
<v Speaker 8>off or something like that. And we didn't because we

808
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:39.559
<v Speaker 8>were now there and all that right, and uh so,

809
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:42.519
<v Speaker 8>but uh, I think the truck to twenty six truck

810
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:49.039
<v Speaker 8>seen he is there in the middle of all the projects. Yeah,

811
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:51.039
<v Speaker 8>a lot of projects.

812
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:53.159
<v Speaker 5>And a lot of big names went. We'll get to

813
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:57.880
<v Speaker 5>that they did. You're right on that, yeah, yep. So

814
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:03.519
<v Speaker 5>let's talk about we talked about the seeing idol. Let's

815
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:05.239
<v Speaker 5>talk about when he got laid off, and we talked

816
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:07.000
<v Speaker 5>about that a little bit in the pre show. How

817
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.679
<v Speaker 5>they so gracefully informed you that you get.

818
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:14.760
<v Speaker 8>Exactly. It's remember us sitting on a window sill there

819
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:18.000
<v Speaker 8>and it was like I think it was July fourth. Yeah,

820
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:21.119
<v Speaker 8>there's this rubble everywhere. It just there's that Charlotte Street.

821
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:24.519
<v Speaker 8>They always showed that picture, like you find the presidents

822
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:26.360
<v Speaker 8>came in or any big shots.

823
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:28.360
<v Speaker 5>And where were you working at the time.

824
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 8>Little in the squad in the squad, okay, squad and

825
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:38.760
<v Speaker 8>uh we see the battalion coming, uh pop in there

826
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:41.239
<v Speaker 8>and driving over the rubble and all and he and

827
00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:44.280
<v Speaker 8>he gets out laughing with the clipboard and he's waving

828
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:46.639
<v Speaker 8>it and he says, okay, guys, I got the list

829
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:49.920
<v Speaker 8>because the rumor was was out there with what was

830
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:52.320
<v Speaker 8>going on in the city. You know, everybody was getting

831
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.519
<v Speaker 8>cut and uh then he started reading off the names.

832
00:44:55.599 --> 00:45:00.159
<v Speaker 8>You know you Murphy a Hern and Garretty, you knew you.

833
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:03.880
<v Speaker 8>Oh gone, you played off, Get out of here. We

834
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:07.199
<v Speaker 8>dropped everything, went back to the FiOS, and I said,

835
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:09.880
<v Speaker 8>and we all tapped out and waited for the doctor.

836
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:14.400
<v Speaker 8>Give us two hours off. Wait, you wasted the all day.

837
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:19.199
<v Speaker 8>And that's how that's how it was. Wow, And I

838
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.920
<v Speaker 8>got back in a week. I was only gone a week.

839
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:23.559
<v Speaker 5>That's what you do.

840
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:26.360
<v Speaker 8>Well, there was nobody left in the job. You know

841
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:28.320
<v Speaker 8>a lot of guys that laid off.

842
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:30.239
<v Speaker 5>How much time did you have, Well, you got on

843
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:33.880
<v Speaker 5>in sixty eight. This was seventy what seventy seventy five,

844
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:38.000
<v Speaker 5>so you had some time on they went by, right, Yeah,

845
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:40.440
<v Speaker 5>a lot of guys went to drive buses. I think

846
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:41.119
<v Speaker 5>they said, right.

847
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:45.639
<v Speaker 8>They got jobs with the transit at right, and so

848
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:46.360
<v Speaker 8>they were.

849
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:48.920
<v Speaker 5>Let off for a week. Did were you married at

850
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:49.239
<v Speaker 5>the time.

851
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.960
<v Speaker 8>You have kids, so yeah, you get I was married,

852
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:56.519
<v Speaker 8>and uh, you know people were calling me up offered

853
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:59.199
<v Speaker 8>me jobs, you know, relatives, and they said I get

854
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:01.960
<v Speaker 8>you work here structured or something like that. Right, and

855
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:07.440
<v Speaker 8>then eventually calmed down, you know after that that was it. Yeah, everybody.

856
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:09.960
<v Speaker 8>My brother in law is the school teacher. He got

857
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:14.159
<v Speaker 8>laid off. Uh, just you know a lot of people

858
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.480
<v Speaker 8>got laid off work for us. Then they had to

859
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:19.480
<v Speaker 8>reevaluate themselves and get them back on.

860
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:23.639
<v Speaker 6>There didn't didn't a lot of firehouses like you just

861
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:26.280
<v Speaker 6>like when you collect house tax or each guy was

862
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:27.400
<v Speaker 6>throwing a few extra books.

863
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:31.440
<v Speaker 5>I was going to say that, yeah, we did that.

864
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:33.840
<v Speaker 8>I remember the guys giving the guys money, and it

865
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:37.320
<v Speaker 8>lasted for a while and then and then it just stopped,

866
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.559
<v Speaker 8>you know, because I don't know why people were coming

867
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:44.000
<v Speaker 8>and going and uh transferring out and then and and.

868
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:45.840
<v Speaker 5>So what did they do? They called you up and

869
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:47.960
<v Speaker 5>they said you are like a week lady. You hired

870
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:48.519
<v Speaker 5>back again?

871
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.639
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think I think, yeah, I think they did

872
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:59.800
<v Speaker 8>call up in fact there you know, uh.

873
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:01.239
<v Speaker 5>You wanted to go, how did they Where did you

874
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:01.800
<v Speaker 5>go after that?

875
00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 8>I went back right back to the where I started,

876
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:07.599
<v Speaker 8>you know, the company, same company school.

877
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:09.760
<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of a lot of guys went somewhere else,

878
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:12.119
<v Speaker 5>right right, But you were able to go back to

879
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:12.559
<v Speaker 5>the squad.

880
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:16.960
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, went back there. And he said we had

881
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:20.920
<v Speaker 8>some characters there too there from uh you know, everybody

882
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 8>had a story behind them, and so it was an

883
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:30.199
<v Speaker 8>interesting place. And then when he finally had that's the

884
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:32.199
<v Speaker 8>room was. It's going to close like a two or

885
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:36.760
<v Speaker 8>three days. So it was working that day. A couple

886
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:39.559
<v Speaker 8>of guys from the shops come in, come in and

887
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:45.239
<v Speaker 8>the we're taking the bell. Yeah, the the bell you talk.

888
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:48.119
<v Speaker 8>You probably had that a big crawling thing on the bumper.

889
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:50.480
<v Speaker 5>I got it sitting right here seventeen engines when they just.

890
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.039
<v Speaker 8>Off the rig and they took it, took it to

891
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:55.719
<v Speaker 8>the shops and all that. And he says, because he

892
00:47:55.800 --> 00:48:00.519
<v Speaker 8>knew somebody was gonna steal it, so there they wanted.

893
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:01.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

894
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:05.280
<v Speaker 8>Then the next night they took the whole rig. So

895
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:07.880
<v Speaker 8>we were still free for that night and the next day.

896
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:11.599
<v Speaker 8>And the officers do what you want to do, you know.

897
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.559
<v Speaker 5>Work, what do they do? They send you somewhere else,

898
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:16.079
<v Speaker 5>So they.

899
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 8>Just that was close. I went to uh we had

900
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 8>papers in and I went to fifty. I put in

901
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 8>for fifty and there was no contest. I mean between

902
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:32.079
<v Speaker 8>ninety two and in eighty two and eighty five and

903
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 8>fifty and nineteen, it was just the best house. The

904
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:40.840
<v Speaker 8>deputies were the best. The officers were Tom Martin and

905
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:43.599
<v Speaker 8>they were real legends. And at a fire, you know,

906
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:47.360
<v Speaker 8>they really knew what they were doing. Tom Martins still around.

907
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:52.159
<v Speaker 8>He's he's at everything. He seemed he's at everything. Bob

908
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:53.920
<v Speaker 8>Love passed away a couple of years ago.

909
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:59.800
<v Speaker 5>But uh, so you said you transferred there in seventy six,

910
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:02.159
<v Speaker 5>the old quarters on one sixty sixth Street.

911
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:06.400
<v Speaker 8>We moved to the old Quarters in the seventy seven Maya.

912
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:09.519
<v Speaker 8>I think it was maya, seventy seven, and that's anohing.

913
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:12.920
<v Speaker 8>We were moving around the corner only, but we were

914
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:17.039
<v Speaker 8>moving with the rigs. We were moving everything until you know,

915
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:19.239
<v Speaker 8>we had lockers tied on the back step of the

916
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.880
<v Speaker 8>truck like, and we tied a bunch of stuff on

917
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:28.119
<v Speaker 8>the back of the engine. And after a while, you know,

918
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.800
<v Speaker 8>the captain, now we had a captain Sullivan to we

919
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:34.000
<v Speaker 8>really can't be doing this. This is insane and taking

920
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:37.559
<v Speaker 8>the runs in, you know, right, And so we called

921
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:40.440
<v Speaker 8>up the chief and they sent a whole bunch of

922
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:42.920
<v Speaker 8>guys from the shops. I don't know what they were

923
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:45.519
<v Speaker 8>like do to the guys, and they moved the rest

924
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.400
<v Speaker 8>of the the stuff out of the one house to

925
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.480
<v Speaker 8>the other. So we're in the brand new house and

926
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:57.119
<v Speaker 8>of course our appliances. We had a brand new refrigerator, stove,

927
00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.599
<v Speaker 8>brand new kitchen, brand new house. Somebody took the refrigerator,

928
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:03.400
<v Speaker 8>you know, because at night they think nobody was in there.

929
00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:07.599
<v Speaker 8>So then they had to put a garden there. Guy

930
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:15.280
<v Speaker 8>working over time. So the ghetto, right, and uh, but

931
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:22.760
<v Speaker 8>so let's day. I think it's all the city, the Burrows.

932
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:26.039
<v Speaker 8>I think the Bronx has at least changed Burrow. You

933
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:29.400
<v Speaker 8>know it's changed, like everything is. The hallm change like

934
00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:33.039
<v Speaker 8>overnight before I got out there, and the columns are

935
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:34.440
<v Speaker 8>great thing.

936
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:38.360
<v Speaker 5>The areas of Brooklyn I've gentrified, like.

937
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:43.679
<v Speaker 8>Yes, it's crazy, yeah, it's uh dead and and it

938
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:47.840
<v Speaker 8>went fast. But the Bronx still you can ride around

939
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:51.159
<v Speaker 8>now and still the change, but not like it everybody

940
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:51.599
<v Speaker 8>else did.

941
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.079
<v Speaker 7>Right, Hey, look you mentioned the layoffs.

942
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:57.559
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you got rehired in a week because you had

943
00:50:57.639 --> 00:50:59.920
<v Speaker 6>some seniority, but they were guys that were laid off.

944
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:01.119
<v Speaker 5>What two three years?

945
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:03.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a couple of years.

946
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:06.280
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know. It's that long thing, really, two three years,

947
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:07.480
<v Speaker 5>that's what I remember.

948
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:11.719
<v Speaker 6>What I in one thirty two there was a fellow

949
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:14.360
<v Speaker 6>by the name of Jimmy Polite who was the last

950
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:16.719
<v Speaker 6>guy to get rehired.

951
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:19.880
<v Speaker 5>And I think that was like seventy seven or seventy

952
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:21.000
<v Speaker 5>eight when he got rehired.

953
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.639
<v Speaker 8>Really yeah, yeah, what is thirty two? Is that the

954
00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:25.400
<v Speaker 8>eye of the storm?

955
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:28.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, to eighty and one thirty two.

956
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 8>Mt.

957
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:32.519
<v Speaker 5>Mcmahony, Yeah, Mike mcmannimon was in the engine.

958
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:35.519
<v Speaker 8>He's in twenty six truck there, I think so, yeah,

959
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:36.760
<v Speaker 8>I think he went there something.

960
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:37.159
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

961
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.360
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if it's the same, if it's Mike mcminnimon,

962
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:41.800
<v Speaker 6>Is that who we're talking about?

963
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:45.719
<v Speaker 8>Okay, Okay, they to break his shoes big time, man,

964
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:47.360
<v Speaker 8>that it is.

965
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:50.159
<v Speaker 5>The same, it's the same one. What does this mean? Like?

966
00:51:50.280 --> 00:52:01.280
<v Speaker 5>What is that? Nothing? Okay, well let that one go,

967
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:05.480
<v Speaker 5>all right. So you're talking about and here too, you

968
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:08.440
<v Speaker 5>got loading up the box with Matt Daily. It's a

969
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:10.119
<v Speaker 5>new book that's coming out in the spring.

970
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:15.599
<v Speaker 8>You have enough people signed up for to uh, so

971
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:18.400
<v Speaker 8>they're gonna print it. You know, you're gonna publish it.

972
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:21.639
<v Speaker 8>They just don't publish books unless they get a h

973
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:24.440
<v Speaker 8>you know, enough people said they're gonna buy it?

974
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:28.280
<v Speaker 5>Right? Who was who was about? Tell us a little

975
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:32.000
<v Speaker 5>about Matt Matt Daily because uh, the chief he's a

976
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:32.639
<v Speaker 5>connect guy.

977
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:37.679
<v Speaker 8>He's a connect guy, and he's a buff uh and

978
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:42.840
<v Speaker 8>he uh he was on the band photographer, you know,

979
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.880
<v Speaker 8>he and uh with us forever there and he had

980
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:49.559
<v Speaker 8>a stroke then probably about ten years ago. So he's

981
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:52.440
<v Speaker 8>he's a little tough to get around and all that,

982
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:54.400
<v Speaker 8>but he still takes his pictures and all that, and

983
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:57.599
<v Speaker 8>he buffs more or less. I had to rescue three. Right,

984
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.039
<v Speaker 8>we kid around all his pictures really from the from

985
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:03.559
<v Speaker 8>the from the Bronx and not from the Hall Water,

986
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:06.400
<v Speaker 8>from hall Im, not the Bronx and all that, but

987
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:09.679
<v Speaker 8>all those great pictures. You say, always look at the bottom,

988
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:11.840
<v Speaker 8>then you'll see it's by Mattie Daily.

989
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.400
<v Speaker 5>He's got a book coming out in the spring. We're

990
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:17.480
<v Speaker 5>gonna have to get it up there where you can

991
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:23.360
<v Speaker 5>find it because Lieutenant Chief Done was talking about it too, so.

992
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:26.400
<v Speaker 8>That's good if he's talking about it.

993
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:28.599
<v Speaker 5>H m.

994
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:32.280
<v Speaker 6>M.

995
00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:37.320
<v Speaker 5>What's the title of the book. It's cold Loading up

996
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:38.840
<v Speaker 5>the Box by matt Daily.

997
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:42.119
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Loading up the Box, that's the that's a uh,

998
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:49.440
<v Speaker 8>it's dispatches talk, you know, mean h on the radio

999
00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:51.559
<v Speaker 8>when I want to fill out the box, I guess

1000
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:53.280
<v Speaker 8>is it just.

1001
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:54.840
<v Speaker 5>Going to be pictures or is he going to have

1002
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:56.559
<v Speaker 5>interviews of different firefighters?

1003
00:53:56.880 --> 00:54:01.119
<v Speaker 8>It's good question. Good question. I'm not sure, but.

1004
00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:05.599
<v Speaker 5>Okay, well, we'll talk more about it when when it's

1005
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:06.280
<v Speaker 5>ready to come out.

1006
00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:09.159
<v Speaker 6>Years ago, there was a buff in Brooklyn, Alex Dunchon,

1007
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:11.400
<v Speaker 6>and he did the same thing. He published the book

1008
00:54:11.719 --> 00:54:14.159
<v Speaker 6>years ago. I haven't but it's old and it was

1009
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:16.840
<v Speaker 6>called First Do and it's the same thing. It's he

1010
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:19.880
<v Speaker 6>just buffed all the jobs in the Brooklyn ghettos.

1011
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.159
<v Speaker 1>And Michael took a lot of good photos too.

1012
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:24.920
<v Speaker 6>Captions you know who's working, but there's no interviews. But

1013
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:28.719
<v Speaker 6>it's just all these pictures of flyers along the way. Yeah, well, Smike,

1014
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:29.320
<v Speaker 6>who'd you said?

1015
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Michael Dick also has some archive of great photos that

1016
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:33.639
<v Speaker 2>are all over you see him a lot.

1017
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Damn Powder posts a lot of them on Facebook.

1018
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:40.800
<v Speaker 5>You have any pictures before we move into a lot

1019
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:42.360
<v Speaker 5>of one twenty six bike? Do you want to get

1020
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:43.519
<v Speaker 5>to that we haven't gotten.

1021
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:48.559
<v Speaker 2>Too well, yep, let's do that right now before we

1022
00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:50.480
<v Speaker 2>get the truck. Twenty six is a show for school

1023
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:51.639
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy five.

1024
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:56.360
<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, that's I didn't know that. Had you even

1025
00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:59.360
<v Speaker 8>add that? I think Kevin o'hag you know Kevin o'hegg

1026
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:00.760
<v Speaker 8>and Checky call him.

1027
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:01.960
<v Speaker 5>No, he.

1028
00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:06.360
<v Speaker 8>He found his photo there somewhere. That's me in the

1029
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:07.360
<v Speaker 8>middle in the front case.

1030
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:16.159
<v Speaker 5>You can't see Wow, squad five helmets. Yeah, wow, you

1031
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:17.199
<v Speaker 5>got the stashed out.

1032
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:19.760
<v Speaker 8>Yes, I can't believe that.

1033
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:24.159
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted a picture here.

1034
00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:24.840
<v Speaker 8>Before we use.

1035
00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:29.519
<v Speaker 5>November fifth, nineteen seventy five. I guarantee you the out

1036
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:31.920
<v Speaker 5>of the two three hundred guys in there, most of

1037
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:37.400
<v Speaker 5>them were even born at that time. Oh, Timmy clutching

1038
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:44.440
<v Speaker 5>there where Timmy clutching the chat so is Chief Noel.

1039
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:50.239
<v Speaker 8>Yep, that's that's I think I mentioned. They didn't mention

1040
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:54.840
<v Speaker 8>that before. That's me tuning up on the pipe major

1041
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:59.280
<v Speaker 8>at the time, tuning up Tommy Lockran's pipes there.

1042
00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:01.920
<v Speaker 5>I thought you was giving a little flick on the

1043
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:04.079
<v Speaker 5>ear there or something. I don't know what you were doing.

1044
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:09.159
<v Speaker 8>Turning them up. Tommy was I got. I was in

1045
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:12.800
<v Speaker 8>his study group and he I taught him piping. He

1046
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:19.599
<v Speaker 8>was in the piping class at all. And he was

1047
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:23.079
<v Speaker 8>on his way to work one day and uh, coming

1048
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:24.719
<v Speaker 8>down at the Conic where he had like a mini

1049
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:28.159
<v Speaker 8>tornado or something. He took the top of a tree

1050
00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:33.320
<v Speaker 8>off and hit his car and he was killed. Wow.

1051
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:37.920
<v Speaker 8>And that happened to be father Judge fighting Father Michael

1052
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:43.280
<v Speaker 8>Judge's first job as a baby. Tom lived in Mayor

1053
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:51.440
<v Speaker 8>pak that's crazy. Another his Jack McLachlan. Again, Uh, I

1054
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:53.639
<v Speaker 8>didn't stay in the story in my whole life. I

1055
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:58.320
<v Speaker 8>moved in a what year was it seventy four maybe

1056
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:03.400
<v Speaker 8>seventy three? Moved to Carmel up in Putnam County.

1057
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:05.880
<v Speaker 5>Well all the way upstate. Oh you bronx goat, that

1058
00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:06.360
<v Speaker 5>makes sense.

1059
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:10.159
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but one of there. We looked everywhere and the

1060
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:12.920
<v Speaker 8>house we had was too small in the storia, so

1061
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:17.000
<v Speaker 8>we gave it a shot and uh spent nine years

1062
00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:18.639
<v Speaker 8>there in Carmel.

1063
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:20.880
<v Speaker 5>Beauty. Isn't that like right next to Mayo Pak.

1064
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:24.199
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's right next to my back there, it's a

1065
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:27.159
<v Speaker 8>little above it. And we stayed there. We stayed there

1066
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:29.719
<v Speaker 8>nine years, and we decided to come back because it

1067
00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:33.599
<v Speaker 8>was still rural and we came here, which was the

1068
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:38.119
<v Speaker 8>flow part, which was the best move we haven't made.

1069
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:40.679
<v Speaker 8>And uh, but the place was great up there. It

1070
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:43.400
<v Speaker 8>was people didn't want to come up there anymore because

1071
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:48.239
<v Speaker 8>it's always snowing, and they went to there, and but

1072
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:51.519
<v Speaker 8>it was only fifty miles to the firehouse. Even though

1073
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:54.159
<v Speaker 8>it sounded like it was six eighty four, it just

1074
00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:56.239
<v Speaker 8>opened up. It was a breeze to go down there,

1075
00:57:56.360 --> 00:57:57.679
<v Speaker 8>and there was no bridge to go over.

1076
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:02.880
<v Speaker 5>So right, Gard lived there from Hazmat.

1077
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:08.400
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, he lived somewhere over there. Yeah, I remember him.

1078
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:11.800
<v Speaker 8>I went to Hazmat School when it first they had

1079
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:13.960
<v Speaker 8>it was on the department ordered anybody wants to go

1080
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:17.519
<v Speaker 8>to a Hazmat school. So Jack Corchoran, myself, a whole

1081
00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:21.079
<v Speaker 8>bunch of guys went two weeks maybe three, and then

1082
00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:25.800
<v Speaker 8>we were so called technicians has Tex. Yeah, yeah, none

1083
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:31.760
<v Speaker 8>do anything about it. But when I got promoted, I

1084
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:34.559
<v Speaker 8>went to, uh, the fourteenth division. I was in an

1085
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:38.400
<v Speaker 8>our group with Hazmat that was the stately you know,

1086
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:40.679
<v Speaker 8>you had to be qualified. So I went there and

1087
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:45.400
<v Speaker 8>it was pretty cool. Did over time there and uh

1088
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:49.639
<v Speaker 8>did the our group and uh it was it was great.

1089
00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:51.679
<v Speaker 8>Before I worked at every single house in the fourteenth

1090
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:56.079
<v Speaker 8>division and two our groups which overlapped the thirteen so

1091
00:58:57.199 --> 00:58:59.639
<v Speaker 8>so I uh, I could have hired out and and

1092
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:03.920
<v Speaker 8>and went back to school and stayed in the Hasmad,

1093
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:08.559
<v Speaker 8>but uh, I decided to go a different direction.

1094
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:11.880
<v Speaker 5>Fire Bug was too strong in you. You couldn't know.

1095
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:18.280
<v Speaker 8>It just wasn't fun, remember mcgardal and all that. Then

1096
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:21.400
<v Speaker 8>I when I was at Sock, I went to school

1097
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:25.800
<v Speaker 8>to the Hazmad school again and that was tough. That

1098
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:28.079
<v Speaker 8>was that was the real deal. It was like a

1099
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:34.199
<v Speaker 8>college chemistry course stuffed into two weeks O and uh yeah,

1100
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:37.679
<v Speaker 8>I remember going there because just in sock.

1101
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:41.559
<v Speaker 5>Any any companies, normal companies in the fourteenth that you

1102
00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:43.679
<v Speaker 5>kind of liked that you might have settled into if

1103
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:44.239
<v Speaker 5>you didn't go back.

1104
00:59:44.360 --> 00:59:46.320
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I one thirty eight truck. I wound up in

1105
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:48.400
<v Speaker 8>the one thirty eight. I heard so much about it

1106
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:55.280
<v Speaker 8>and that the Corona Tigers. Finally it's only got my ut.

1107
00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:57.559
<v Speaker 8>I got a signed there. I worked there and then

1108
00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:01.440
<v Speaker 8>the spot opened up, so I was hanging out in

1109
01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:05.480
<v Speaker 8>there till they filled it. But Jimmy's explained was in

1110
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:06.239
<v Speaker 8>two eighty nine.

1111
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Did you know him?

1112
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:09.280
<v Speaker 8>He was Balloons they call him.

1113
01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:10.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeh, he was.

1114
01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:14.000
<v Speaker 8>He was quite a character there. But you know he

1115
01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:15.599
<v Speaker 8>was in the enginet right.

1116
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.039
<v Speaker 5>Who was in the truck, Mike Pryor, He was in

1117
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:18.800
<v Speaker 5>the truck.

1118
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:22.239
<v Speaker 8>Prior Mike Pryor. That's a kids are all on the job.

1119
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:24.480
<v Speaker 5>Uh yeah, yeah, and uh.

1120
01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:30.519
<v Speaker 8>They staying there. Then the spot opened and John Carrol

1121
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:31.880
<v Speaker 8>was the captain, asked me if for I want to

1122
01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:35.480
<v Speaker 8>stay there, and he says, giving the band, he say, uh,

1123
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:39.079
<v Speaker 8>Chief of Rourke is a good friend of his. He's

1124
01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:41.320
<v Speaker 8>just and no I'm asking you that, but he said,

1125
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:45.000
<v Speaker 8>you get it. I said, I said, I really appreciate it.

1126
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:49.440
<v Speaker 8>But uh, the guy I only got forty forty points

1127
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:51.440
<v Speaker 8>when this one he was going by points and all that.

1128
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:55.960
<v Speaker 8>He says. The guy who wanted it Edie Herding. He

1129
01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:56.800
<v Speaker 8>was a Brooklyn guy.

1130
01:00:56.920 --> 01:00:59.039
<v Speaker 7>He had like a truck.

1131
01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:06.000
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it hurting a nice guy, perfect And he wound

1132
01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:08.360
<v Speaker 8>up getting the spot because he had the time and

1133
01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:12.760
<v Speaker 8>everything else and all that. And I thanked John caw for,

1134
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.800
<v Speaker 8>you know, putting me in, but I said, no, no,

1135
01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:17.880
<v Speaker 8>I don't want to do that. You know, that's worse.

1136
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:21.480
<v Speaker 8>You know, get somewhere, but you don't have the time

1137
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:25.559
<v Speaker 8>or anything. So that was the story with that. So

1138
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:28.519
<v Speaker 8>after that he got the spot, I bounced around some

1139
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:30.920
<v Speaker 8>more and then I went to twenty six truck. Jack

1140
01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:35.480
<v Speaker 8>Corcoran back to that. He got me in Vinny Bowleet spot,

1141
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:37.079
<v Speaker 8>the Union spot.

1142
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:40.800
<v Speaker 5>So where was he was a lieutenant there at the time? Corkoran.

1143
01:01:41.960 --> 01:01:44.119
<v Speaker 8>He was a lieutenant Yes, Jack Corkoran.

1144
01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:47.400
<v Speaker 5>And how did you know him before that? From from from.

1145
01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:51.599
<v Speaker 8>Nineteen truck from fifteen nineteen he was in nineteen I

1146
01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:54.840
<v Speaker 8>was in the engine and we were just friends together.

1147
01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:59.039
<v Speaker 8>And he he lived up in Warwick. He was some Queens.

1148
01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:03.280
<v Speaker 8>He moved to Walwicks stay there for seven or eight years,

1149
01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:05.400
<v Speaker 8>and then he wound up coming back to Elmhurst. He

1150
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:07.960
<v Speaker 8>lived right around the corner from the from my Rescue

1151
01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:09.559
<v Speaker 8>four right.

1152
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:12.599
<v Speaker 5>He was captain of Rescue FO. Yeah, And I told

1153
01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:14.639
<v Speaker 5>you I met him because I had I have a

1154
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:17.800
<v Speaker 5>side business of ATMs and it happened to have one

1155
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:19.519
<v Speaker 5>in the bar that he was in, like you said,

1156
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:22.480
<v Speaker 5>had his own personal seat there. And every time I

1157
01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:24.719
<v Speaker 5>go in there, he was such a gentleman. Sit down,

1158
01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:27.480
<v Speaker 5>talk to me. Let's talk about the fire department. Let's

1159
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:30.760
<v Speaker 5>talk this. How do you like the squad? Just a nice,

1160
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:33.760
<v Speaker 5>overall genuine man like you couldn't get a better guy.

1161
01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:35.760
<v Speaker 8>To him, you know, you couldn't get a better guy.

1162
01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:40.320
<v Speaker 8>And then became good friends, play golf together. And he's

1163
01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:42.840
<v Speaker 8>the one who's when I put in for Rescue four.

1164
01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:46.639
<v Speaker 8>He was going to bad for me, you know, and

1165
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:48.960
<v Speaker 8>he got mad at me. He's say, anybody get mad?

1166
01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:51.480
<v Speaker 8>He says, I did all I could And you didn't,

1167
01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:57.400
<v Speaker 8>you know, because you knew von Essen and uh and

1168
01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:00.599
<v Speaker 8>and go to the mayor. You have to to commit

1169
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:04.039
<v Speaker 8>the commissioner. Actually Vonasen's commissioners. You should have saw him

1170
01:03:04.360 --> 01:03:07.199
<v Speaker 8>and all that. So I didn't get the spot, but

1171
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:09.079
<v Speaker 8>I stayed six months and there.

1172
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:11.280
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know you even worked. You don't have you

1173
01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:14.400
<v Speaker 5>worked the rescue four for six months, no sock and

1174
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:16.719
<v Speaker 5>six months, but you put in for the spot and

1175
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:17.320
<v Speaker 5>rescue four.

1176
01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:20.880
<v Speaker 8>Yeah. It was always the big deal on because this

1177
01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:24.679
<v Speaker 8>is before the squads, right, So it was very very

1178
01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:28.519
<v Speaker 8>tight organization, right. You know, people didn't leave, you know,

1179
01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:31.920
<v Speaker 8>guys who had the spots and all that, right, So

1180
01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:34.639
<v Speaker 8>I stayed and then bounced around. It didn't bother me

1181
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:37.880
<v Speaker 8>bouncing around. You know. They grew up in the city

1182
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:38.840
<v Speaker 8>and knew where everything was.

1183
01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:41.159
<v Speaker 5>And did you enjoy being in sock? Was it a

1184
01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:41.800
<v Speaker 5>different Yeah?

1185
01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:42.079
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

1186
01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:43.280
<v Speaker 5>The person who worked.

1187
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:47.280
<v Speaker 8>Except except for two rescued too. You know, they get

1188
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:52.119
<v Speaker 8>they had They're a different act. They're different, you know.

1189
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:54.800
<v Speaker 8>And when I went in there, everybody knew who I was.

1190
01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:57.039
<v Speaker 8>I was the guy who didn't get the spot. Everybody

1191
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:01.760
<v Speaker 8>is in the kitchen, yeah, and go hey, lo, what

1192
01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:02.760
<v Speaker 8>you working to night?

1193
01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:03.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1194
01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:07.760
<v Speaker 8>Where you're from? I'd say, uh, twenty six Struck and

1195
01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:13.039
<v Speaker 8>he says, oh, that's in Green Point, right, And well

1196
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:16.840
<v Speaker 8>before that, I said, well, in the n fifty and

1197
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:21.440
<v Speaker 8>nineteen and they were in uh you know, uh somewhere

1198
01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:24.079
<v Speaker 8>Long Island City, I am something or something like that.

1199
01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:26.880
<v Speaker 8>And you know, they were just they were just pulling

1200
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.280
<v Speaker 8>my chain and I says, where we that before that?

1201
01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:36.800
<v Speaker 8>Five immediately got everybody's attention because they didn't know where

1202
01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:39.559
<v Speaker 8>it was. And I started telling them how we used

1203
01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:42.119
<v Speaker 8>to operate in ninety two, and I really laid it on,

1204
01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:47.480
<v Speaker 8>you know, because they knew they they were interested, then

1205
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:48.840
<v Speaker 8>they were fascinated.

1206
01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:52.159
<v Speaker 5>I think that got their attention, right, it did.

1207
01:04:52.280 --> 01:04:55.840
<v Speaker 8>I enjoyed it. And Jimmy Jaggett was there, you know,

1208
01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:59.079
<v Speaker 8>Jimmy Jaggett. Yeah, he was a twenty six struck guy.

1209
01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:03.159
<v Speaker 8>So and the cracker Jack fireman. The guys when I

1210
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:05.440
<v Speaker 8>used to go to work, my riding list were full

1211
01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:06.079
<v Speaker 8>of guys like that.

1212
01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:11.639
<v Speaker 5>And uh so you don't get joy, don't go to work,

1213
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:13.960
<v Speaker 5>you don't get the spot in four. So you go

1214
01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:15.440
<v Speaker 5>up the twenty six truck.

1215
01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:19.360
<v Speaker 8>Yes, it's about it. They went up in the twenty

1216
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:23.679
<v Speaker 8>six and they stayed there for fourteen years.

1217
01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:26.079
<v Speaker 5>But you had to, you were telling me in the

1218
01:05:26.119 --> 01:05:27.920
<v Speaker 5>pre show you had to go talk to a bunch

1219
01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:29.880
<v Speaker 5>of guys, right, you had to because it was the

1220
01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:34.880
<v Speaker 5>h It was the spot that was the UFO.

1221
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:40.199
<v Speaker 8>Anny Bolan spot, right. Anny Bowlin was the off UFO

1222
01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:43.519
<v Speaker 8>way president and so it was his spot. So I

1223
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:46.800
<v Speaker 8>had to see him. It was see him to get

1224
01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:47.679
<v Speaker 8>his blessing.

1225
01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:47.519
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1226
01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:50.159
<v Speaker 8>That's that's what he did at the union.

1227
01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:52.800
<v Speaker 5>Mean Dominus of you got the spot all right?

1228
01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:53.159
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

1229
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:55.920
<v Speaker 5>Factory right?

1230
01:05:56.639 --> 01:06:03.559
<v Speaker 8>Yeah? I think who else was some of the fire

1231
01:06:03.639 --> 01:06:07.920
<v Speaker 8>factory that have been he done? He worked there? Wait,

1232
01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:11.960
<v Speaker 8>I think in the enginet, the engine I think he.

1233
01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:15.360
<v Speaker 5>Was the chief of Hazmat Fanning he worked up there, right.

1234
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:21.199
<v Speaker 8>Jack Fanning, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the guy. Yeah, good guy.

1235
01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:23.519
<v Speaker 5>Me and Louis tell this story all the time when

1236
01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:26.079
<v Speaker 5>we first came to the squad, like and we ran

1237
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:28.920
<v Speaker 5>into you know, Chief Fanning or anybody else that has that.

1238
01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:32.360
<v Speaker 5>For that sake, you automatically put this this label on

1239
01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:34.840
<v Speaker 5>them like they've never been anywhere, right because they're in Hazmat.

1240
01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:38.000
<v Speaker 5>And you come to find out that Chief Fanny was

1241
01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:40.000
<v Speaker 5>like a twenty six truck. Then you see him at

1242
01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:43.320
<v Speaker 5>something and he's got a chest full of medals here like, wow,

1243
01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:46.880
<v Speaker 5>what an asshole? I was, man, thinking, this guy's never

1244
01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:50.519
<v Speaker 5>been anyway, you know, thirty two and he said, y're

1245
01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:54.480
<v Speaker 5>no right, but automatically, oh, he's in Hasbad.

1246
01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:58.000
<v Speaker 8>It was this guy, you know, he was in fifty

1247
01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:03.320
<v Speaker 8>nine truck in the engine eighty five and at this

1248
01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:06.679
<v Speaker 8>day that's it's one of those concert huts they call,

1249
01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:09.840
<v Speaker 8>you know. It was uh, it's uh what do you

1250
01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:12.119
<v Speaker 8>call those buildings there bits the.

1251
01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:15.400
<v Speaker 5>Tin house, the tin house, like the tin house in Brooklyn.

1252
01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:18.159
<v Speaker 8>It was the same thing to the truck and the engine.

1253
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:22.360
<v Speaker 8>And then we'd squeeze in there and where was their roomauy,

1254
01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:24.519
<v Speaker 8>I know, in the back of the pool table and uh,

1255
01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:30.199
<v Speaker 8>we used to go there the terrible meals. The meals

1256
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:33.400
<v Speaker 8>are like thirty five cents and you got the worth

1257
01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:36.320
<v Speaker 8>of food, you know, out of there. You know, we'd

1258
01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:36.880
<v Speaker 8>stayed at the.

1259
01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:42.239
<v Speaker 5>Slugging beans potato chips or somethinghere.

1260
01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:47.440
<v Speaker 8>And they had so much other places. It's eighty two

1261
01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:50.000
<v Speaker 8>was the same way they were. Uh. These they were

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01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:53.159
<v Speaker 8>all Dennis Smith was there at the time, I think, uh.

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01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:57.159
<v Speaker 8>And they had more people were buffs from everywhere going

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01:07:57.199 --> 01:07:58.440
<v Speaker 8>to eighty two engineer, you know.

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01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:00.840
<v Speaker 5>Probably especially after he came out the book, right, I

1266
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:03.760
<v Speaker 5>mean crazy, yeah, it's.

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01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:08.840
<v Speaker 8>But the place was it wasn't like fifty nineteen anyway,

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01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:09.960
<v Speaker 8>and at the time, so.

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01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:13.599
<v Speaker 5>You're going on record is saying fifteen nineteen is the place.

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01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:19.279
<v Speaker 8>And and my son when he came on the job,

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01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:23.000
<v Speaker 8>he he went to nineteen truck.

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01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:25.079
<v Speaker 5>Ah, I won't know how that happened.

1273
01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:27.520
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, everybody says that, how that happen?

1274
01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:31.960
<v Speaker 5>Now, that happened. So he went to the truck and.

1275
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:34.920
<v Speaker 8>Then he got promoted and he became a lieutenant fifty

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01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:39.399
<v Speaker 8>eight engine and he captain bounced around and he wound

1277
01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:43.479
<v Speaker 8>up in fifty engine. Look at that and uh, and

1278
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:45.439
<v Speaker 8>he just retired, just left.

1279
01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:49.039
<v Speaker 5>Was the lieutenant in the fire Factory video? That's you?

1280
01:08:50.239 --> 01:08:50.720
<v Speaker 8>That's uh.

1281
01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:54.600
<v Speaker 5>Somebody says you were the lieutenant and the five factory video.

1282
01:08:55.439 --> 01:08:56.920
<v Speaker 1>They want to know if you were, if.

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01:08:56.840 --> 01:08:59.479
<v Speaker 5>You were his son?

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01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:04.279
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I was, Yeah, I was in the video, the video,

1285
01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:10.239
<v Speaker 8>the Firefactory video talking about the band. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1286
01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:11.640
<v Speaker 8>I was interviewed.

1287
01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:11.640
<v Speaker 5>There for that.

1288
01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:15.800
<v Speaker 8>H That was a while back. That's a lot of

1289
01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:17.399
<v Speaker 8>work there, twenty years.

1290
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:19.520
<v Speaker 5>We're in twenty six.

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01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:23.039
<v Speaker 8>Would you say, of course we were, we were. You know,

1292
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:25.680
<v Speaker 8>you can't say you're the Biggs of the best and

1293
01:09:25.720 --> 01:09:30.000
<v Speaker 8>all that, but you could say, you know, you can

1294
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:34.000
<v Speaker 8>offend somebody, but top ten, you know, like, h.

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01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:37.039
<v Speaker 5>Were you there when for the Schomburg fire or did

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01:09:37.079 --> 01:09:37.960
<v Speaker 5>you get there after that?

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01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:43.000
<v Speaker 8>I was there. I wasn't working that day, but yeah,

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01:09:43.079 --> 01:09:45.479
<v Speaker 8>I was there for that. Jack Corkran was the officer

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01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:47.279
<v Speaker 8>okay at Corkoran.

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01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:50.359
<v Speaker 7>I was working and rescue one that day. I was

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01:09:50.439 --> 01:09:52.359
<v Speaker 7>fairly new and the rescue when I had that job.

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01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:54.000
<v Speaker 5>Is that the one that was the.

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01:09:54.159 --> 01:09:57.760
<v Speaker 6>Cockpac fire originally Hank or Yeah, yeah, twenty six was

1304
01:09:57.840 --> 01:09:58.640
<v Speaker 6>first new truck.

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01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:03.119
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they're right down the block and he was at

1306
01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:05.600
<v Speaker 8>the door, the door of the apartment and it was

1307
01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:08.920
<v Speaker 8>cherry red as they're going down the hallway.

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01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:11.119
<v Speaker 6>Because the compact the shoots were right next to the

1309
01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:13.720
<v Speaker 6>entrance doors, so they people were jumping that, you know,

1310
01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:17.279
<v Speaker 6>they were jumping from a couple from one of the floors.

1311
01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:19.880
<v Speaker 6>I think there was like seven fatalis on three different

1312
01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:20.520
<v Speaker 6>floors there.

1313
01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:21.159
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:25.560
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that was well, the one of the pitchers before

1315
01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:29.520
<v Speaker 8>the two senior guys, Ed Roberts and Tom go back.

1316
01:10:29.399 --> 01:10:32.000
<v Speaker 1>To that on Mike. I think this was ninety Right here,

1317
01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:34.760
<v Speaker 1>there's just the two guys.

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01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:38.640
<v Speaker 8>They're in civilian close they Tom was the McCarthy. He

1319
01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:42.800
<v Speaker 8>was the chauffeur and standing next to the rig, the

1320
01:10:43.119 --> 01:10:47.000
<v Speaker 8>bodies were coming right next to him. Wow, kids, right.

1321
01:10:47.039 --> 01:10:49.359
<v Speaker 7>It was that's when there was still the two five

1322
01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:52.840
<v Speaker 7>battalion then, because I remember the aid on the they

1323
01:10:52.960 --> 01:10:55.600
<v Speaker 7>we had been turned around and we were heading back,

1324
01:10:55.960 --> 01:10:58.199
<v Speaker 7>and all of a sudden, the two five battalions.

1325
01:10:58.199 --> 01:11:01.159
<v Speaker 5>Transmit the second along. We got people jumping, and we

1326
01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:03.239
<v Speaker 5>turned around and started heading back.

1327
01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:06.800
<v Speaker 6>And yeah, and I remember fire was showing out the

1328
01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:12.079
<v Speaker 6>windows on three different floors, like the thirty third, thirty second,

1329
01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:15.079
<v Speaker 6>and then and then there was heavy smoke coming out

1330
01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:16.520
<v Speaker 6>of like the twenty seventh floor.

1331
01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:16.800
<v Speaker 5>It was.

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01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:18.720
<v Speaker 7>It was a lot of fire in that old building.

1333
01:11:20.439 --> 01:11:23.039
<v Speaker 6>They had shut They were doing work on the sprinklets system,

1334
01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:24.800
<v Speaker 6>so of course they shut it off and it was

1335
01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:25.760
<v Speaker 6>never turned back on.

1336
01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:30.399
<v Speaker 5>For the weekend. And then the fire was in the

1337
01:11:30.479 --> 01:11:31.840
<v Speaker 5>compact to shoot and.

1338
01:11:32.960 --> 01:11:35.199
<v Speaker 6>That building was built with federal funds so it didn't

1339
01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:37.800
<v Speaker 6>have to meet the city ordinate the fire codes.

1340
01:11:38.399 --> 01:11:42.199
<v Speaker 7>And everybody, everybody was cut over. They couldn't get out.

1341
01:11:42.039 --> 01:11:45.800
<v Speaker 6>Of their apartments because the compacted shoot doors were right

1342
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:48.279
<v Speaker 6>next to the entrance doors, so the fire was coming

1343
01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:52.199
<v Speaker 6>out and it was taking that whole wall. So The

1344
01:11:52.279 --> 01:11:55.039
<v Speaker 6>only place people would go was they either jumped or

1345
01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:56.880
<v Speaker 6>they would hunt it down in the corner.

1346
01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:01.520
<v Speaker 9>Back bedroom. Man, and they're going to do you jump?

1347
01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:05.439
<v Speaker 9>Jack said he thought he was going to die. Really

1348
01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:08.920
<v Speaker 9>the fire, I remember we hooked it up. We we

1349
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:11.479
<v Speaker 9>ended up having a walk because the elevators went out

1350
01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:14.199
<v Speaker 9>of service. They were like Central correlevators. Water was coming

1351
01:12:14.279 --> 01:12:16.600
<v Speaker 9>down the shaft. So by the time we got there

1352
01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:19.359
<v Speaker 9>at elevators were with no goal. So we ended up

1353
01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:20.039
<v Speaker 9>booking it up.

1354
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:25.439
<v Speaker 8>Yeah. Yeah, it was bad, bad fire. That's bad. Yeah.

1355
01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:29.159
<v Speaker 7>And so I just wondering, I don't know if you

1356
01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:31.199
<v Speaker 7>had that fire, but you said corkran had it?

1357
01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:37.880
<v Speaker 8>Huh Jack corkran down? Yeah the fire? Oh yeah, good

1358
01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:43.279
<v Speaker 8>just realized that where where you guys met together, Jack

1359
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:50.279
<v Speaker 8>and the Grandstand Grant. Yeah, yeah, the guy just died recently.

1360
01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:54.039
<v Speaker 5>John Brown. Yeah, I know that. Yeah. He was a

1361
01:12:54.079 --> 01:12:54.720
<v Speaker 5>nice guy. Man.

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01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:56.560
<v Speaker 8>A couple of couple of times. You know you mentioned

1363
01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:57.000
<v Speaker 8>that name.

1364
01:12:57.079 --> 01:12:59.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, that Jack was just that was his home

1365
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:02.880
<v Speaker 5>there and yeah, and what time you went in there,

1366
01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:07.039
<v Speaker 5>he was sitting in there, always open for a conversation too.

1367
01:13:07.039 --> 01:13:09.560
<v Speaker 8>Man, good good friend. I was one of his poll

1368
01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:16.119
<v Speaker 8>bearers and Yeah, that was good guy. We're gonna do it.

1369
01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:18.840
<v Speaker 8>So we worked together quite a bit.

1370
01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:22.520
<v Speaker 7>So you had obviously you had a ton of fire

1371
01:13:22.560 --> 01:13:25.079
<v Speaker 7>in your career, but when your time as a lieutenant

1372
01:13:25.119 --> 01:13:27.520
<v Speaker 7>in twenty six, you have one or two fires that

1373
01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:31.159
<v Speaker 7>particularly stick out, that were tough for something out of

1374
01:13:31.199 --> 01:13:32.159
<v Speaker 7>the ordinary happening.

1375
01:13:32.720 --> 01:13:35.159
<v Speaker 8>There was a picture before you might have saw my

1376
01:13:35.279 --> 01:13:36.319
<v Speaker 8>head at the window there.

1377
01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:37.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1378
01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:39.800
<v Speaker 8>I think my son Timmy got that picture of that

1379
01:13:39.920 --> 01:13:40.319
<v Speaker 8>one there.

1380
01:13:40.840 --> 01:13:41.119
<v Speaker 5>Okay.

1381
01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:45.199
<v Speaker 8>And one thing I still ask my son with my

1382
01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:49.119
<v Speaker 8>hood I listen's before Hoods. I don't know when the

1383
01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:53.399
<v Speaker 8>Hoods came in before Hoods, because that's not I would

1384
01:13:53.399 --> 01:13:56.479
<v Speaker 8>have had it that. I'm on the second floor of

1385
01:13:56.560 --> 01:14:00.319
<v Speaker 8>the building. Here we look up. That's where thought the

1386
01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:04.279
<v Speaker 8>fire was went up there in the apartment. It was

1387
01:14:04.359 --> 01:14:10.119
<v Speaker 8>vacant apartment that it was chained closed, And luckily one

1388
01:14:10.119 --> 01:14:12.319
<v Speaker 8>of the guys he was from fourteen truck in fact,

1389
01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:16.079
<v Speaker 8>went down and got the bowl cutters and the two

1390
01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:19.640
<v Speaker 8>guys just took everything we had to break the chain

1391
01:14:20.159 --> 01:14:23.000
<v Speaker 8>and women in this apartment. In the middle of the

1392
01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:27.840
<v Speaker 8>apartment is a bathtub just sitting there and a lot

1393
01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:32.680
<v Speaker 8>to trip over that and we're looking around for the fire.

1394
01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:35.880
<v Speaker 8>And next thing, I fell through the floor there and

1395
01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:38.640
<v Speaker 8>I straddled like the beam from underneath. And the fire

1396
01:14:38.840 --> 01:14:41.079
<v Speaker 8>wasn't up there, it was down. It was in the cellar.

1397
01:14:41.479 --> 01:14:44.640
<v Speaker 8>Came up through the first floor and to the second

1398
01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:46.840
<v Speaker 8>and the fire came out the windows there and I

1399
01:14:47.479 --> 01:14:49.680
<v Speaker 8>went up up my legs and all that, and I

1400
01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:53.760
<v Speaker 8>got burnt, and I can't show it there. Got my

1401
01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:57.600
<v Speaker 8>ears burnt and all and all I thought about where

1402
01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:01.000
<v Speaker 8>was my proby had a proby too, from fourteen truck

1403
01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:07.880
<v Speaker 8>and he got out the entrance the way guy grabbed

1404
01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:09.680
<v Speaker 8>him and he went back in the hall. And I

1405
01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:12.199
<v Speaker 8>went to the window and looked out like a hundred

1406
01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:14.760
<v Speaker 8>firemen out there. They must have called in a second

1407
01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:19.399
<v Speaker 8>or third alarm right away. And my neighbor next door,

1408
01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:22.960
<v Speaker 8>Mike Monaghan, I saw him that day and he says,

1409
01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:26.920
<v Speaker 8>she was so lucky that that that came out and

1410
01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:29.479
<v Speaker 8>your managers not to fall through the floor there, you know.

1411
01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:33.720
<v Speaker 5>Just the being courts right, yeah, And then it just

1412
01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:34.239
<v Speaker 5>lit up.

1413
01:15:34.279 --> 01:15:38.680
<v Speaker 8>Everything lit up, so everybody was looking in the street

1414
01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:41.039
<v Speaker 8>up at the fire. Meanwhile, the fire was in the cellar.

1415
01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:43.640
<v Speaker 8>It was a Chinese restaurant and they left the cooking

1416
01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:46.800
<v Speaker 8>oil on and oil and uh. And on the first

1417
01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:49.159
<v Speaker 8>floor there was a Chinese restaurant, but they didn't go

1418
01:15:49.319 --> 01:15:49.640
<v Speaker 8>down the.

1419
01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:52.279
<v Speaker 7>Cellar and had the fire week in the floor.

1420
01:15:52.359 --> 01:15:53.880
<v Speaker 6>Or was it that the fact that there was a

1421
01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:57.319
<v Speaker 6>vacant apartment above that it was just rotted would just

1422
01:15:58.239 --> 01:15:59.039
<v Speaker 6>one of those things?

1423
01:15:59.199 --> 01:15:59.760
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it was.

1424
01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:00.359
<v Speaker 6>It was.

1425
01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:03.920
<v Speaker 8>It was a vacant apartment. It was you know, rip

1426
01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:05.840
<v Speaker 8>the part and all that, even though they was still

1427
01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:10.520
<v Speaker 8>operating the Chinese restaurant down there. But that, uh, there

1428
01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:12.479
<v Speaker 8>was a lot a lot of fire there, and I

1429
01:16:12.520 --> 01:16:14.479
<v Speaker 8>don't know how I get out if I went down

1430
01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:19.399
<v Speaker 8>the ladder or I went out to the entrance door there.

1431
01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:20.920
<v Speaker 5>To wind up going to the burn.

1432
01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:25.399
<v Speaker 8>That uh yeah, the uh time, we actually just at

1433
01:16:25.439 --> 01:16:29.640
<v Speaker 8>the hospital, went back to the where I got a

1434
01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:34.359
<v Speaker 8>doctor there who was like the uh, gave me a

1435
01:16:34.479 --> 01:16:36.680
<v Speaker 8>lecture on the e is how important it is, how

1436
01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:40.600
<v Speaker 8>sensitive they are if they get burnt or anything any

1437
01:16:40.760 --> 01:16:42.479
<v Speaker 8>you know, you can get disease in this and that

1438
01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:45.039
<v Speaker 8>and all that. So he hit me down this way

1439
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:47.600
<v Speaker 8>and that way, and then I went to the back

1440
01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:50.640
<v Speaker 8>to the firehouse that way, and oh what uproar that

1441
01:16:50.760 --> 01:16:54.800
<v Speaker 8>course they thought I was dead. You know that way.

1442
01:16:55.600 --> 01:16:57.079
<v Speaker 8>They thought it was a joke and I couldn't go

1443
01:16:57.159 --> 01:16:59.479
<v Speaker 8>home that way. You say, you walk in your house

1444
01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:02.920
<v Speaker 8>that way. Uh, yeah, you're gonna You're gonna be in

1445
01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:07.279
<v Speaker 8>big trouble. So that was it. The chief said that,

1446
01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:10.960
<v Speaker 8>he says, I've never been scared a fire to this one.

1447
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:14.640
<v Speaker 8>We thought we were going to lose the three is

1448
01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:17.920
<v Speaker 8>up there and everything else, but it worked out.

1449
01:17:18.520 --> 01:17:22.439
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't your time. Excuse me, it wasn't your time.

1450
01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:23.680
<v Speaker 8>No no, no, no, no no.

1451
01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:25.560
<v Speaker 5>And this.

1452
01:17:27.359 --> 01:17:30.479
<v Speaker 8>We went to. We went to a lot uh fires,

1453
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:32.960
<v Speaker 8>especially because I had and the guys I had with me,

1454
01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:35.680
<v Speaker 8>the same four guys you see in the in the

1455
01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:39.920
<v Speaker 8>uh there's other pictures there. They were the same four

1456
01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:42.399
<v Speaker 8>guys they used to work with all the time. Mike Fitzgerald,

1457
01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:47.520
<v Speaker 8>you don't rest he went to four.

1458
01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:50.359
<v Speaker 7>That's a different Mike Fitzgerald.

1459
01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:56.600
<v Speaker 8>Man, that's Paul Baldwin on the left. With that's Baldwin.

1460
01:17:56.640 --> 01:18:01.399
<v Speaker 8>There came the squat and Mike said, Gerald, me, and

1461
01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:03.520
<v Speaker 8>then Tom on he's the guy was telling you about.

1462
01:18:04.479 --> 01:18:10.039
<v Speaker 8>And these are the two senior guys. On the left

1463
01:18:10.159 --> 01:18:12.880
<v Speaker 8>is Tom McCarthy. He's the one who said he's operating

1464
01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:16.079
<v Speaker 8>the pumper and the bodies are crashing around him from

1465
01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:21.800
<v Speaker 8>Schomberg Wow, and Eddie Roberts there he's he's doing okay,

1466
01:18:21.880 --> 01:18:25.680
<v Speaker 8>but Tom's Tom's not doing too good. He's got dementia

1467
01:18:25.840 --> 01:18:31.439
<v Speaker 8>and whatever that sucks, not doing right.

1468
01:18:32.520 --> 01:18:34.960
<v Speaker 7>So had Baally Baldwin in your groups?

1469
01:18:35.439 --> 01:18:40.239
<v Speaker 8>Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, his.

1470
01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:42.720
<v Speaker 5>Dad was the at one time before me. It was

1471
01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:44.600
<v Speaker 5>the captain of Rescue one. And then he ended up

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01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:45.399
<v Speaker 5>in Rescue one.

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01:18:46.199 --> 01:18:49.359
<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, okay, I knew somebody I thought, yeah, yeah,

1474
01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:53.520
<v Speaker 8>he wound up. They never came back though, you know,

1475
01:18:54.920 --> 01:18:55.960
<v Speaker 8>I don't know what happened to him.

1476
01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:58.520
<v Speaker 7>He could, they ended, We came't the squad to it.

1477
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:00.760
<v Speaker 7>I haven't seen him.

1478
01:19:01.199 --> 01:19:03.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah he's still you know what, Hank, You'll still hit

1479
01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:05.560
<v Speaker 5>me up once in a while on a text out

1480
01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:09.039
<v Speaker 5>of nowhere. Yeah, it's so strange. He's a strange bird.

1481
01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:10.279
<v Speaker 5>I love him. He's a strange bird.

1482
01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:12.319
<v Speaker 8>I worked in two eighty eight, two when it was

1483
01:19:12.600 --> 01:19:13.359
<v Speaker 8>before the squad.

1484
01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:21.159
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry you got to go to sleep, ye sure,

1485
01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:24.319
<v Speaker 5>it was, yeah, to.

1486
01:19:24.399 --> 01:19:29.239
<v Speaker 8>To eighty nine. I had a couple of fires there. Yeah,

1487
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:30.880
<v Speaker 8>that was a busy, busy place, and.

1488
01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:34.720
<v Speaker 5>One thirty eight had a huge response area man huge,

1489
01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:37.560
<v Speaker 5>Like if you're not from like if you're from Brooklyn

1490
01:19:37.640 --> 01:19:39.119
<v Speaker 5>or somewhere and you go to one thirty eight, like

1491
01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:41.239
<v Speaker 5>where the hell were we going home or something? But

1492
01:19:41.319 --> 01:19:44.600
<v Speaker 5>it's huge. The response area all the way from Flushing

1493
01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:48.520
<v Speaker 5>to Corona, sometimes the Loyal City, sometimes the Masmith Hike.

1494
01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:51.439
<v Speaker 5>It's just the response area is huge.

1495
01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:54.000
<v Speaker 8>He told me that when you when you go heading

1496
01:19:54.039 --> 01:19:57.960
<v Speaker 8>to Flushing, they shouldn't say that the stories, but they said,

1497
01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:01.920
<v Speaker 8>just when you go out there, you're signed second. Do

1498
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:02.760
<v Speaker 8>you're going to be first?

1499
01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:04.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:07.000
<v Speaker 8>I don't know. They're trying to trying to tell me

1501
01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:11.960
<v Speaker 8>something that I know. And then but quite a few

1502
01:20:12.319 --> 01:20:16.119
<v Speaker 8>few fires. In fact, we had a fire, made a

1503
01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:19.319
<v Speaker 8>couple of grabs and we wrote one guy up there,

1504
01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:22.159
<v Speaker 8>let me tell you his name, and he got a

1505
01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:25.079
<v Speaker 8>B out of it, maybe something A or a B.

1506
01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:33.439
<v Speaker 8>And I got a letter from I get, uh, are

1507
01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:34.840
<v Speaker 8>taking into mission your second?

1508
01:20:41.039 --> 01:20:45.640
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely? What about you? You gotta take one intermission?

1509
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:49.800
<v Speaker 7>I think he's looking for the letter. Yeah, we don't

1510
01:20:50.159 --> 01:20:52.479
<v Speaker 7>pull me into an intermission because you're thinking about it.

1511
01:20:54.439 --> 01:20:56.720
<v Speaker 5>I might be in a cup, bro, guys don't know already.

1512
01:20:56.960 --> 01:20:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Now you gotta halftime report has brought to you.

1513
01:21:01.359 --> 01:21:06.920
<v Speaker 5>By Louis Ricardo. Oh my girl, Cindy Drake is in

1514
01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:12.880
<v Speaker 5>the chat. Love Cindy, Love me some Cindy always watching

1515
01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:15.479
<v Speaker 5>the Cup of Joe. Listen to you, guys? Could you

1516
01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:18.000
<v Speaker 5>start sending some more stuff in? Bro run a little dry?

1517
01:21:18.079 --> 01:21:20.319
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how to keep asking you to sending pictures.

1518
01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:22.560
<v Speaker 5>I guess you guys have no company pride. You don't

1519
01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:25.520
<v Speaker 5>want to send them pictures of your rigs or your

1520
01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:29.199
<v Speaker 5>kitchen table or as far as you've been to send

1521
01:21:29.239 --> 01:21:31.000
<v Speaker 5>them in. Will you? What do I gotta do by

1522
01:21:31.119 --> 01:21:32.119
<v Speaker 5>show over the head every.

1523
01:21:32.039 --> 01:21:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Time in the chat. Joe Schneiderman, Joe snder.

1524
01:21:36.439 --> 01:21:42.159
<v Speaker 5>Is always in there. Timmy Cluk Clutt, Oh Johnny? Uh fipello?

1525
01:21:42.439 --> 01:21:47.560
<v Speaker 5>What's I love that? Ask Clut because I'm not I

1526
01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:49.680
<v Speaker 5>don't see the chat. Ask if he's going to be

1527
01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:52.520
<v Speaker 5>in Orlando in February, Clutt, you've gotta be in Orlando

1528
01:21:52.600 --> 01:21:53.159
<v Speaker 5>in February.

1529
01:21:53.239 --> 01:21:56.359
<v Speaker 1>Hank Watson out, Garretty has returned, Tenant, I.

1530
01:21:56.479 --> 01:22:01.000
<v Speaker 8>Am returned, but I have a problem. Yeah, Uh she

1531
01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:05.079
<v Speaker 8>fell last night? Oh no, yeah? And uh.

1532
01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:11.960
<v Speaker 5>Shet off Yeah, okay we could sign off, no problem whatsoever?

1533
01:22:12.680 --> 01:22:14.199
<v Speaker 5>You gotta you gotta do what you gotta do, my.

1534
01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:15.319
<v Speaker 8>Friend, do what I gotta do.

1535
01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we'll do a part two.

1536
01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we'll do a part too. Don't worry about it,

1537
01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:22.520
<v Speaker 5>don't do what you gotta do. We'll close out the show. Okay,

1538
01:22:22.920 --> 01:22:27.720
<v Speaker 5>take care, take care, good love. Look, it was no worries.

1539
01:22:27.800 --> 01:22:31.119
<v Speaker 5>Do what you gotta do. We understand, appreciate it. Got

1540
01:22:31.159 --> 01:22:35.960
<v Speaker 5>no problem. We'll have to h We'll get him back on,

1541
01:22:36.359 --> 01:22:36.920
<v Speaker 5>good guy.

1542
01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Back on, for sure. He has some more stories to tell.

1543
01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:42.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, all right, so Hank, how you making out of it.

1544
01:22:42.359 --> 01:22:44.199
<v Speaker 5>We love the fact that you have no problem with

1545
01:22:44.239 --> 01:22:46.880
<v Speaker 5>your internet anymore. I didn't want to say anything.

1546
01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Now that you said that. Now that you said that.

1547
01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:55.359
<v Speaker 6>One point when you had a picture of twenty six checks, Rick,

1548
01:22:55.720 --> 01:22:57.760
<v Speaker 6>it was getting a little crackling and stuff, and I

1549
01:22:57.880 --> 01:22:58.640
<v Speaker 6>was like, here we go.

1550
01:22:59.239 --> 01:23:02.800
<v Speaker 5>Even great. He Hanks to his new digs, his new

1551
01:23:02.840 --> 01:23:04.119
<v Speaker 5>palatial estates.

1552
01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:07.159
<v Speaker 6>Out there and wherever he is letters dance, and he

1553
01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:08.560
<v Speaker 6>said he's got his niece's wedding.

1554
01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:12.359
<v Speaker 5>So all right, sorry, we'll see this yet, Tim, Tim, Tim,

1555
01:23:12.479 --> 01:23:14.359
<v Speaker 5>I know I've been telling you this so like a

1556
01:23:14.439 --> 01:23:16.960
<v Speaker 5>million times. We got to do that training on engine

1557
01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:18.680
<v Speaker 5>ops that'd be good.

1558
01:23:19.319 --> 01:23:21.439
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say really quick, just before it slips

1559
01:23:21.479 --> 01:23:23.720
<v Speaker 2>my mind. It's amazing you guys didn't work together, meeting

1560
01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:25.720
<v Speaker 2>you and the lieutenant. But it's amazing how many people

1561
01:23:25.760 --> 01:23:27.960
<v Speaker 2>you knowed it overlaps. Yeah, you guys ran in the

1562
01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:28.600
<v Speaker 2>same service.

1563
01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:32.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yep, I'll tell you.

1564
01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:35.479
<v Speaker 6>Remember he mentioned that fellow Ed Herding, Yes, right, and

1565
01:23:35.560 --> 01:23:37.079
<v Speaker 6>I said, oh, Ed Herding went fourteen.

1566
01:23:37.720 --> 01:23:40.560
<v Speaker 7>Yes, I tell you, I mean Ed was a senior guy.

1567
01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:44.720
<v Speaker 6>Because the way I met ed Herding was I was

1568
01:23:45.159 --> 01:23:50.560
<v Speaker 6>a youngster working for Pan American Airways and I had

1569
01:23:50.640 --> 01:23:52.640
<v Speaker 6>taken the test to be a city fireman.

1570
01:23:52.800 --> 01:23:54.600
<v Speaker 7>I was waiting to get called, but I was still

1571
01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:55.319
<v Speaker 7>at pan AMS.

1572
01:23:55.359 --> 01:23:56.800
<v Speaker 5>This was like nineteen seventy eight.

1573
01:23:57.560 --> 01:24:01.000
<v Speaker 6>And one day they told me we need you to

1574
01:24:01.279 --> 01:24:04.039
<v Speaker 6>drive these papers or something. It was somewhere in Brooklyn,

1575
01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:06.880
<v Speaker 6>so I, you know, they gave me directions. It was

1576
01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:09.239
<v Speaker 6>you know, there was no phones with GPS's right, it

1577
01:24:09.319 --> 01:24:11.000
<v Speaker 6>was like a written direction. So I'm you know, I

1578
01:24:11.199 --> 01:24:14.479
<v Speaker 6>take my car and on the way there, I noticed

1579
01:24:14.520 --> 01:24:17.319
<v Speaker 6>I passed the firehouse. It was like it was one fourteen,

1580
01:24:18.039 --> 01:24:20.479
<v Speaker 6>and I forget the engine. If it wasn't, I think

1581
01:24:20.479 --> 01:24:21.319
<v Speaker 6>it was a single.

1582
01:24:21.119 --> 01:24:23.600
<v Speaker 5>House, single house and then now there was two on

1583
01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:27.319
<v Speaker 5>one I believe. So on the way back after I

1584
01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:28.720
<v Speaker 5>dropped out, I says, you know what I'm going to go.

1585
01:24:28.800 --> 01:24:31.359
<v Speaker 6>So I stopped my car and I knock on the

1586
01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:34.760
<v Speaker 6>door and I'm and uh, Ed Herding answers the door.

1587
01:24:34.880 --> 01:24:38.119
<v Speaker 5>He was on housewatch, really, so I said to him, Hey,

1588
01:24:38.159 --> 01:24:38.680
<v Speaker 5>how you doing.

1589
01:24:38.920 --> 01:24:41.199
<v Speaker 6>You know, I'm I'm waiting to get hired on the job,

1590
01:24:41.359 --> 01:24:43.359
<v Speaker 6>and uh, you know, I just had to be passing

1591
01:24:43.399 --> 01:24:45.760
<v Speaker 6>the firehouse. I'm working at pan am right now, but

1592
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:48.039
<v Speaker 6>I got a few minutes to kill. So he'sa come

1593
01:24:48.079 --> 01:24:49.039
<v Speaker 6>on into the firehouse.

1594
01:24:49.079 --> 01:24:50.119
<v Speaker 5>So he you know, he brought me in.

1595
01:24:50.279 --> 01:24:52.039
<v Speaker 6>We went to the back, had a couple of coffee

1596
01:24:52.359 --> 01:24:53.920
<v Speaker 6>guys were there. They were real nice, you know, we

1597
01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:55.039
<v Speaker 6>were just talking.

1598
01:24:54.760 --> 01:24:55.399
<v Speaker 5>And everything, and.

1599
01:24:56.920 --> 01:24:59.920
<v Speaker 6>You know, and I always remembered, you know, Ed Herding

1600
01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:03.119
<v Speaker 6>was the guy that let that led me into the flyhouse.

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01:25:03.159 --> 01:25:05.760
<v Speaker 5>It was a real nice guy on the job. You

1602
01:25:05.840 --> 01:25:12.199
<v Speaker 5>know that is left a lock of circle. Yeah right, yeah,

1603
01:25:12.319 --> 01:25:16.640
<v Speaker 5>somebody's asking, oh, I think Frank yourself is about the Yes,

1604
01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:19.680
<v Speaker 5>Louis and I will be at the Long Island Show.

1605
01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:23.119
<v Speaker 5>That is the thirty first, first and second thirty, first

1606
01:25:23.159 --> 01:25:25.520
<v Speaker 5>of January, first and second of February. Come into the booth,

1607
01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:28.479
<v Speaker 5>hang out with us. Frankie knows. You know, Frank We

1608
01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:29.880
<v Speaker 5>have a couple of you know what I mean, a

1609
01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:31.960
<v Speaker 5>couple of o's. We tell fire stories a lot of

1610
01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:34.439
<v Speaker 5>big weeks there, Come on down. I had the thinking

1611
01:25:34.479 --> 01:25:36.520
<v Speaker 5>that Mike did somebody race it to Ganto race it.

1612
01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:38.800
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna have to ch is it here?

1613
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:39.720
<v Speaker 8>Oh?

1614
01:25:39.800 --> 01:25:44.319
<v Speaker 5>There it is? Check it out well on Expo January thirty,

1615
01:25:44.359 --> 01:25:47.159
<v Speaker 5>first February second, Nasal Coliseum. Come out and see us

1616
01:25:47.359 --> 01:25:50.079
<v Speaker 5>there we go there. Before we go, we have to

1617
01:25:50.119 --> 01:25:51.479
<v Speaker 5>play the FRC commercial.

1618
01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>We certainly do.

1619
01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:53.399
<v Speaker 8>We do.

1620
01:25:53.960 --> 01:25:57.439
<v Speaker 1>Let me cue it up our friends from fr CE.

1621
01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:00.359
<v Speaker 2>The First Responder Center for Excellence. This is a not

1622
01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:04.039
<v Speaker 2>for profit organization dedicated to protecting their lives and livelihoods

1623
01:26:04.119 --> 01:26:07.640
<v Speaker 2>of first responders. Their education and research initiatives aim to

1624
01:26:07.680 --> 01:26:12.079
<v Speaker 2>bring greater awareness and understanding the challenges to the health, safety,

1625
01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:15.359
<v Speaker 2>and well being of firefighters, EMS personnel, and other first

1626
01:26:15.399 --> 01:26:18.520
<v Speaker 2>responders too. They are an affiliate of the National Fallen

1627
01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Firefighter Foundation.

1628
01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:24.880
<v Speaker 5>All right, so my old school health and safety tip

1629
01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:26.520
<v Speaker 5>and then is something that Hank and I were talking

1630
01:26:26.520 --> 01:26:29.600
<v Speaker 5>about in the pre show. If you got a problem,

1631
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:32.840
<v Speaker 5>get it fixed, right, Hank, I mean, this is what

1632
01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:35.039
<v Speaker 5>we're talking about. I'm getting my knee replaced, but I

1633
01:26:35.079 --> 01:26:37.600
<v Speaker 5>should have got that done five, six, seven, eight years ago,

1634
01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:40.359
<v Speaker 5>because then it leads to other problems. Now my hips

1635
01:26:40.399 --> 01:26:43.319
<v Speaker 5>bothering my mother, other knee is bothering me. So safe

1636
01:26:43.359 --> 01:26:45.920
<v Speaker 5>thing goes for anything. High blood pressure leads to a

1637
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:49.640
<v Speaker 5>ton of other medical complications. So if you have something,

1638
01:26:49.920 --> 01:26:52.560
<v Speaker 5>we got medical coverage, go get it taken care. Because

1639
01:26:52.640 --> 01:26:56.000
<v Speaker 5>one problem leads to another problem, leads to another problem. Right.

1640
01:26:58.119 --> 01:27:00.840
<v Speaker 10>We do talk about the psychological end, and we talk

1641
01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:03.920
<v Speaker 10>about the heart and all that, but when you do

1642
01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:06.479
<v Speaker 10>a job like a firefighter, and you do it for

1643
01:27:06.600 --> 01:27:11.760
<v Speaker 10>twenty twenty five years, you also have lots of orthopedic problems.

1644
01:27:12.119 --> 01:27:13.800
<v Speaker 5>You don't tend to talk about that as much.

1645
01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:16.640
<v Speaker 6>You know, on the air, we talk about it when

1646
01:27:16.680 --> 01:27:18.840
<v Speaker 6>we get together. But you get beat up, you know,

1647
01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:21.000
<v Speaker 6>you're wearing a mask on your back. I don't hardly

1648
01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:23.800
<v Speaker 6>any fireman that don't have some type of compressed vertebrates

1649
01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:27.520
<v Speaker 6>haven't had an injury where they need the shoulder operated

1650
01:27:27.600 --> 01:27:30.520
<v Speaker 6>on and knee operating on, and and then you're good

1651
01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:32.960
<v Speaker 6>when you're young because you're rebound. Then when when you're

1652
01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:35.760
<v Speaker 6>retired and like you say, we're talking about now, you know,

1653
01:27:35.840 --> 01:27:37.920
<v Speaker 6>and you're looking for quality of life. You work your

1654
01:27:37.960 --> 01:27:41.319
<v Speaker 6>whole life, so hopefully you can enjoy your retirement. You

1655
01:27:41.399 --> 01:27:43.720
<v Speaker 6>find out you got you know, you're limping all over

1656
01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:46.479
<v Speaker 6>the place because it is or that. Don't wait to

1657
01:27:46.520 --> 01:27:48.159
<v Speaker 6>get it taken care of, Get it taken care of,

1658
01:27:48.199 --> 01:27:51.600
<v Speaker 6>because they're very good at putting you know, metal parts

1659
01:27:51.640 --> 01:27:51.920
<v Speaker 6>in us.

1660
01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:52.159
<v Speaker 8>Now.

1661
01:27:52.479 --> 01:27:55.439
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know, I'm doing stuff now since I had

1662
01:27:55.479 --> 01:27:57.359
<v Speaker 7>my knee replace that I didn't do for you know,

1663
01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:00.520
<v Speaker 7>ten years, so, like I said, should have got it

1664
01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:01.079
<v Speaker 7>done sooner.

1665
01:28:01.800 --> 01:28:04.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Mike's looking at what are you talking about? Like

1666
01:28:04.680 --> 01:28:07.520
<v Speaker 5>he's twenty something years old. He's not even paying attention.

1667
01:28:09.039 --> 01:28:10.279
<v Speaker 7>My cement heads.

1668
01:28:11.560 --> 01:28:12.319
<v Speaker 8>You know I can do this.

1669
01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:15.359
<v Speaker 5>I can do it. You can. But it's also you know,

1670
01:28:15.479 --> 01:28:19.000
<v Speaker 5>a better way. Here's another thing to listen to your wife.

1671
01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:20.720
<v Speaker 5>Because my wife's been telling me for eight years, why

1672
01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:23.079
<v Speaker 5>don't he replace, Why don't get me replaced by replaced?

1673
01:28:23.079 --> 01:28:25.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, ah, so finally now that my legs are

1674
01:28:25.680 --> 01:28:27.880
<v Speaker 5>going this way, I have to get it replaced me.

1675
01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:32.520
<v Speaker 5>That's it's all I got Mike listen. I hope my Hank.

1676
01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:35.439
<v Speaker 5>Thanks for coming in short notice. I appreciate the wop

1677
01:28:35.479 --> 01:28:40.479
<v Speaker 5>swap tonight. Man, it's awesome, my pleasure. Uh, everybody praying

1678
01:28:40.520 --> 01:28:43.079
<v Speaker 5>for my boy Louis. I love him. He'll be fine.

1679
01:28:44.319 --> 01:28:46.279
<v Speaker 5>He's on the mend. We'll get him back here soon.

1680
01:28:48.319 --> 01:28:52.239
<v Speaker 7>Is the anniversary of the Father's Day fire coming up?

1681
01:28:52.279 --> 01:28:52.560
<v Speaker 5>Sooner?

1682
01:28:52.600 --> 01:28:53.119
<v Speaker 8>Am I wrong?

1683
01:28:53.439 --> 01:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>June?

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01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:54.600
<v Speaker 5>Father's Day?

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01:28:54.880 --> 01:28:56.199
<v Speaker 7>June, not Father's Day?

1686
01:28:57.119 --> 01:28:59.039
<v Speaker 1>The Black Black Sunday?

1687
01:28:59.079 --> 01:28:59.239
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

1688
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:00.399
<v Speaker 1>Next week?

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01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:04.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, next week? I know it was coming up third, Okay,

1690
01:29:04.960 --> 01:29:07.680
<v Speaker 5>we also coming up. I just booked a guy who

1691
01:29:08.239 --> 01:29:12.680
<v Speaker 5>does documentaries. He's an award winning documentary Uh, he's do

1692
01:29:12.920 --> 01:29:16.520
<v Speaker 5>He put together documentary on volunteer firefighters. It's gonna be awesome.

1693
01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:19.279
<v Speaker 5>We're gonna have him on. We're gonna show the trailer

1694
01:29:19.720 --> 01:29:22.479
<v Speaker 5>and we're gonna have a viewing. It's gonna be up

1695
01:29:22.520 --> 01:29:24.720
<v Speaker 5>here in New York somewhere, but we're gonna rent out

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01:29:24.760 --> 01:29:27.600
<v Speaker 5>a theater and do a viewing. It'll be a great thing.

1697
01:29:27.960 --> 01:29:31.239
<v Speaker 5>I don't remember when he's on. Sometime in February. One

1698
01:29:31.279 --> 01:29:32.760
<v Speaker 5>more thing, Chief es Bo.

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01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:35.840
<v Speaker 6>If you're listening, if you're out there, can you get

1700
01:29:35.880 --> 01:29:38.239
<v Speaker 6>my boy, Kevin and Louis into the shops place.

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01:29:38.279 --> 01:29:39.479
<v Speaker 5>I want to do it.

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01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:44.399
<v Speaker 7>And there's a lot of people that other departments that

1703
01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:45.439
<v Speaker 7>are interested.

1704
01:29:45.479 --> 01:29:46.199
<v Speaker 5>In our shops.

1705
01:29:46.239 --> 01:29:49.760
<v Speaker 7>When they the size of it and what gets done there.

1706
01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:51.840
<v Speaker 5>You would think the guy sat next to him and

1707
01:29:51.920 --> 01:29:54.039
<v Speaker 5>rescue school. But now he's a big week. Now he's

1708
01:29:54.119 --> 01:29:56.760
<v Speaker 5>chief of the apartment. I can't talk. Let's let's get

1709
01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:57.800
<v Speaker 5>them into the shops.

1710
01:29:58.319 --> 01:30:00.439
<v Speaker 7>I think that show won't be as big as the rock,

1711
01:30:00.520 --> 01:30:01.479
<v Speaker 7>but it'll be up there.

1712
01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:03.800
<v Speaker 5>It'll be up to everybody. I love you, I love

1713
01:30:03.840 --> 01:30:06.880
<v Speaker 5>the rake. Bro. Come on, all right, I'm right now.

1714
01:30:06.920 --> 01:30:09.119
<v Speaker 5>Soon as we hang up. All right, all let's say yo,

1715
01:30:09.560 --> 01:30:14.880
<v Speaker 5>chief Fastball, let's go, come on you, Johnny, Johnny, let's go.

1716
01:30:15.600 --> 01:30:17.439
<v Speaker 5>All right. That's all I got. You got anything else?

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01:30:17.479 --> 01:30:17.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:18.880
<v Speaker 5>We have a shout out, ton I Mike.

1719
01:30:20.560 --> 01:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Shot a few shoutouts after this. But first let me

1720
01:30:22.640 --> 01:30:24.960
<v Speaker 1>share the screen here so we can highlight this one

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01:30:25.439 --> 01:30:28.119
<v Speaker 1>stand by. Take it away, coops.

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01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:32.199
<v Speaker 5>Oh you have to read it, Mike. I can't read

1723
01:30:32.239 --> 01:30:33.600
<v Speaker 5>what my fucking glasses from here.

1724
01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this is Avon Volunteer Fire Department Deputy Chief

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01:30:37.119 --> 01:30:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Dave TERRYO.

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01:30:37.800 --> 01:30:39.279
<v Speaker 1>I hope I'm pronouncing that right. If I'm not, I

1727
01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:40.439
<v Speaker 1>sincerely apologized.

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01:30:40.800 --> 01:30:40.880
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

1729
01:30:41.000 --> 01:30:44.439
<v Speaker 2>He unfortunately is currently battling cancer. Pardon me while I

1730
01:30:44.640 --> 01:30:46.840
<v Speaker 2>get that back to the tap, and this is his

1731
01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:50.039
<v Speaker 2>go fund me. We're gonna paste the link in the chat, uh,

1732
01:30:50.319 --> 01:30:52.479
<v Speaker 2>just so you could assist naturally. As you can imagine,

1733
01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:55.079
<v Speaker 2>during a process like this, the bills can pile up

1734
01:30:55.079 --> 01:30:57.239
<v Speaker 2>and it can get to be a lot. So I'll

1735
01:30:57.319 --> 01:30:59.039
<v Speaker 2>copy and paste that link in the chat so you

1736
01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:00.960
<v Speaker 2>can contribute to its go fund me. Of course, all

1737
01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:03.199
<v Speaker 2>the proceeds will go to his family pay for his

1738
01:31:03.279 --> 01:31:05.720
<v Speaker 2>cancer treatment. So please keep him and his family and

1739
01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:07.920
<v Speaker 2>your prayers during this very difficult time. We know how

1740
01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:10.359
<v Speaker 2>evil cancer can be, and we want to make sure

1741
01:31:10.359 --> 01:31:12.479
<v Speaker 2>that we get not only look after the chief any

1742
01:31:12.520 --> 01:31:14.079
<v Speaker 2>way that we can, but his family as well.

1743
01:31:14.640 --> 01:31:17.560
<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Mike. Also, we got producer Pete making his comeback.

1744
01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:20.039
<v Speaker 5>He's coming on the show. He's gonna talk about everything

1745
01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:23.039
<v Speaker 5>he saw out in California. We'll talk about the fires

1746
01:31:23.079 --> 01:31:25.079
<v Speaker 5>a little bit, and our prayers go out to the

1747
01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:27.439
<v Speaker 5>brothers and the people who lost so much out there.

1748
01:31:27.479 --> 01:31:30.039
<v Speaker 5>And I know it's a big political mess. I've had

1749
01:31:30.119 --> 01:31:34.159
<v Speaker 5>problems on Facebook guys all over the place on this

1750
01:31:34.359 --> 01:31:36.520
<v Speaker 5>and all I asked you to them to be is

1751
01:31:36.640 --> 01:31:39.159
<v Speaker 5>just be respectful. But he got out of control. We

1752
01:31:39.239 --> 01:31:41.039
<v Speaker 5>had to start deleting chats. But anyway, we're gonna have

1753
01:31:41.119 --> 01:31:44.119
<v Speaker 5>Pete on and we're gonna talk about those fires in

1754
01:31:44.199 --> 01:31:46.479
<v Speaker 5>a respectful manner. So if you're in the chat and

1755
01:31:46.479 --> 01:31:48.399
<v Speaker 5>you get out of control, Mike over here is gonna

1756
01:31:48.399 --> 01:31:50.239
<v Speaker 5>boot your ass right out. But we will be having

1757
01:31:50.279 --> 01:31:51.720
<v Speaker 5>him on as well. And we got a couple other

1758
01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:53.319
<v Speaker 5>guests I don't know on my phone, but.

1759
01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:57.800
<v Speaker 7>The first response is out there busting their ass.

1760
01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:00.439
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, man, right, they don't need to be second

1761
01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:03.079
<v Speaker 5>guessing them. Now. We can leave the politics for later.

1762
01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:05.920
<v Speaker 5>This is not about a political agenda. It's about the

1763
01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:09.439
<v Speaker 5>brothers in the thehood nation, bro, And like you said,

1764
01:32:09.479 --> 01:32:13.239
<v Speaker 5>all the people that are affected all in the same country.

1765
01:32:13.880 --> 01:32:17.279
<v Speaker 5>So I think I heard today eleven thousand structures burnt

1766
01:32:17.319 --> 01:32:23.119
<v Speaker 5>to the ground. Eleven thousand. That's crazy, it's insane. Insane.

1767
01:32:24.079 --> 01:32:25.920
<v Speaker 5>Hank again, thank you, Look great man, Look at you

1768
01:32:25.920 --> 01:32:27.640
<v Speaker 5>with the ten he's at the head of head now

1769
01:32:27.680 --> 01:32:31.039
<v Speaker 5>he's not even limping around. It's it's uh, it's fabulous.

1770
01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:32.800
<v Speaker 5>It's been a curse. I've had my whole life. What

1771
01:32:32.880 --> 01:32:33.319
<v Speaker 5>could ill?

1772
01:32:36.199 --> 01:32:36.319
<v Speaker 8>Uh?

1773
01:32:37.359 --> 01:32:39.479
<v Speaker 5>I hope you get the call soon. I just talked

1774
01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:41.840
<v Speaker 5>to Procaccini and LOUI are going down there to film

1775
01:32:41.880 --> 01:32:47.359
<v Speaker 5>a show and Mike get sworn in. Uh yes, you're

1776
01:32:47.359 --> 01:32:49.560
<v Speaker 5>going out to dinner, even if Salty has to pay.

1777
01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:51.239
<v Speaker 5>As long as your mom's just next to me at

1778
01:32:51.239 --> 01:32:57.039
<v Speaker 5>the table, We're all good, broel.

1779
01:32:55.000 --> 01:32:56.319
<v Speaker 7>Got alevehead Nation.

1780
01:32:56.520 --> 01:32:57.399
<v Speaker 5>Be safe out there.

1781
01:32:59.680 --> 01:33:01.439
<v Speaker 2>A couple of shout outs really quick before we go

1782
01:33:01.720 --> 01:33:04.960
<v Speaker 2>going's belated well these three shoutouts, so see guys a Saturday.

1783
01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Jake Gannon and Eric Staalzer and Sarah

1784
01:33:07.399 --> 01:33:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Elkins from b Schiff look forward to see you guys

1785
01:33:09.119 --> 01:33:11.199
<v Speaker 2>a Saturday. And a belated shout out to my friend

1786
01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Lang. He's on where Procaccini is now. He just

1787
01:33:13.600 --> 01:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>graduated last one for the Stanford Fire Academy, so.

1788
01:33:16.199 --> 01:33:19.720
<v Speaker 5>Awesome, good stuff. Procaccini told me that you guys go

1789
01:33:19.800 --> 01:33:20.760
<v Speaker 5>to a lot of work over there.

1790
01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:24.239
<v Speaker 1>He said, uh yeah, yeah, Stanford's busy and New Haven's

1791
01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>busy too.

1792
01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:28.560
<v Speaker 5>The way, Bro, Mike can't wait to see stor fire

1793
01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:30.760
<v Speaker 5>stories with him. Hank look at him. Can't wait till

1794
01:33:30.800 --> 01:33:35.119
<v Speaker 5>he buses Sherry, I hear you all right, guys, We'll

1795
01:33:35.119 --> 01:33:39.000
<v Speaker 5>see you next week. Remember setting your stuff in Coobs

1796
01:33:39.079 --> 01:33:41.600
<v Speaker 5>Podcast at gmail dot com. Send your stuff in for

1797
01:33:41.720 --> 01:33:43.199
<v Speaker 5>the Cup of Joe and Fueger if you want to

1798
01:33:43.239 --> 01:33:44.960
<v Speaker 5>keep it going until then, We'll see you next week.

1799
01:33:45.319 --> 01:33:48.279
<v Speaker 2>Stay loan and go alright, Everyboddy, I'll be half of

1800
01:33:48.359 --> 01:33:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Hank Malay and Kevin Coobler and Mike Clone.

1801
01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:53.119
<v Speaker 1>We'll see you next time. Fransmit the seventy three Working

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01:33:53.239 --> 01:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Fire Wow
