Speaker 1: Tonight, but all bright Nick Ferguson Grant Smith back there.
Speaker 1: He has the power to help the Rockies win, but
Speaker 1: keeps it all, hoards it all to himself.
Speaker 2: I'd rather hit the slopes, makes sense, I get it.
Speaker 1: Just be selfish. See how it is five six six
Speaker 1: nine zeros text line. You guys want to get involved
Speaker 1: in the conversation. We watch Anthony Edwards get a little
Speaker 1: dinged up earlier, and then we had a conversation during
Speaker 1: the break. Nick was talking like getting the shot, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: let me just can I set it up?
Speaker 2: Set it up for it all right?
Speaker 3: So honestly, we saw Anthony Edwards get injured, and I
Speaker 3: told the guys a story where I.
Speaker 2: Hurt my ankle before.
Speaker 3: And you know when when you watch players and you know,
Speaker 3: giving them the Grant Smith's treatment that's going in the back,
Speaker 3: don't don't worry about this waiver and taking this shot,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, miraculously he's out there. You know,
Speaker 3: Anthony ra was stretching with the band and doing some
Speaker 3: kind of sign letteral stuff. So I said, well, when
Speaker 3: I was injured, what time I took a shot? And
Speaker 3: the shot was supposed to be a high anti inflammatory,
Speaker 3: reduced pain and inflammation, and it didn't do anything, which
Speaker 3: I never did the shot again.
Speaker 1: But despite the you know Grant Bud Kilmer Smith over here.
Speaker 2: Yes exactly.
Speaker 3: But then I didn't notice something wrong with my foot
Speaker 3: at the time. Obviously I'm African American, so I got,
Speaker 3: you know, brown skin. But but I noticed an accelerating discoloration.
Speaker 2: In my foot. So there it wasn't like green or anything. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: it wasn't green or anything like that. What my, my, my,
Speaker 2: What color wasn't what color was the discoleration in your
Speaker 2: in your skin? My brown skin turned white? Right, and
Speaker 2: it was that wasn't even the only side effect. Like
Speaker 2: you infantly could not dunk a basketball anymore.
Speaker 4: And you started listening to Shania Twain and Taylors right
Speaker 4: off the bat. Everything O listen, black pepper was too spicy.
Speaker 2: You know, hey listen, real talk.
Speaker 3: I did tell him my wife' like, hey, uh, the
Speaker 3: foods tasting a little saucy.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't remember stand was going over my palate.
Speaker 3: And during that time, I mean, obviously I love sneakers,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I mean, I went from
Speaker 3: rebox to nankes too.
Speaker 2: I ventured open to you know new balance that does
Speaker 2: a telltale side. Sitting at Jack Johnson concert. Wait, real talk,
Speaker 2: I do have a pair of Berkeley guys trade up
Speaker 2: Bas and his older brother of the sumar rou.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's a drastic change in my body.
Speaker 2: Complexion right the show.
Speaker 1: We can't even repeat. We said during the break, got
Speaker 1: this one little white discolouration in his foot that just
Speaker 1: went like full of guy. He could tell me and
Speaker 1: granted partial.
Speaker 2: Selling people. Oh, I started wearing cardigan sweaters. I mean
Speaker 2: you went for will to Carlton.
Speaker 1: You jumped right in on bulow time Thursday.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. He started playing hustle defense at the wreck.
Speaker 2: It's like I'm freezing playing hustle the guy now one
Speaker 2: of those blue guys, hard worker.
Speaker 3: I went from no show, low cut Nike socks, socks
Speaker 3: yeah there below the knee, to.
Speaker 2: The three strikes us to talk about blue yellow blue.
Speaker 1: Oh the short of creeping higher and higher up his legs.
Speaker 2: Almost went as far as to get him some of
Speaker 2: those John stocked.
Speaker 3: And that's how far is almost is almost winning many side.
Speaker 2: Effe he shot you. You don't know what's in the
Speaker 2: man you're showing you.
Speaker 1: Purb these verticals creased by two feet one day.
Speaker 2: I'm not even I don't even don't know what else
Speaker 2: was decreasing. Oh line, somebody saved from ourselves right same way.
Speaker 1: And there's still like okay, so there's so many injuries
Speaker 1: in this Golden State Wolve series.
Speaker 3: They can't like.
Speaker 2: Andy Edwards can't she can't go out to we get
Speaker 2: step gone?
Speaker 3: Was he?
Speaker 2: First of all? I know somewhere if Adam Silver is
Speaker 2: not at.
Speaker 3: This game, because it's the only NBA game being played
Speaker 3: wherever he's watching it, he's got to be in somewhat
Speaker 3: of a panic because to have two of your key
Speaker 3: players possibly out for a.
Speaker 2: Game or more, that's gonna be a problem. Like Edwards
Speaker 2: came back, but will he be able.
Speaker 3: To sustain himself and be the same athletic guy he
Speaker 3: was before.
Speaker 2: He grabbed the shin?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this this game was already low score. It
Speaker 1: might be fifty points below the.
Speaker 3: Under Just think about it for a few Minnesota. Man,
Speaker 3: you'll go to guys. If aunt can't continue with the
Speaker 3: series at this high level, You're two guy becomes Rudy Gobert.
Speaker 2: That's funny by himself.
Speaker 3: Hey listen, hey, hey, he did do a number on
Speaker 3: the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Now, the Wolves are plus twelve with the highest they
Speaker 1: got in this game with Rudy Gobert on the court,
Speaker 1: and he's got three points.
Speaker 2: Twelve, But he's got three points when he's on the court.
Speaker 3: If a can't really be himself in this injury starts
Speaker 3: to slow him down, I think the pendulum swings bat
Speaker 3: and and all the betting odds go back to Golden State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just I mean, and the game has swung
Speaker 1: back towards Golden State, who's on a sixteen six run
Speaker 1: here in the third quarter, narrowed at the seven points
Speaker 1: after the Teables blow him out in the first quarter. Uh,
Speaker 1: if they've managed to kind of chip and claw their
Speaker 1: way back into that.
Speaker 2: But I like Golden State in that series. I do.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Wolves without Anthony, with without Ers don't
Speaker 1: have firepower. They refuse to give nas Reed the minutes
Speaker 1: that he needs and keep running Gobert out there, and
Speaker 1: without Edward they don't have the firepower to keep up.
Speaker 2: I mean, even with Curry out well, that.
Speaker 3: Means that you're gonna have to lean heavily on Julius
Speaker 3: Rendu and Defncenzo because Defrencenzo is it's their version, I guess,
Speaker 3: a milder version of Steph Curry.
Speaker 2: Being able to knock down yeah snudshot ye.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Obviously he doesn't have you.
Speaker 3: Know, Steph's range and consistency, but that's.
Speaker 2: That would be their answer.
Speaker 1: Well, they're gonna have to figure something out because Edwards
Speaker 1: has been playing again, but he's two of eight on
Speaker 1: the field from the day and it's just not I mean,
Speaker 1: he's obviously he's uh that he's hurting a little bit,
Speaker 1: and that's such a big part of what they do. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: you've got the you got the Golden State Warriors, who
Speaker 1: in this game have played fourteen players.
Speaker 2: I'm not hitting you. The fourteen players have seen the court.
Speaker 1: Now, Braxton Key was only on for five seconds, but
Speaker 1: they have, say, have played fourteen players in this game.
Speaker 1: Butler Green, Post Potziemski, and Heal started Caminga Jackson, Davis,
Speaker 1: Moses Moody, Gary Payton, the second, Kevin Knox the second
Speaker 1: Passpencer Guise, Santos, Kevin Mooney, and Braxton Key have.
Speaker 2: All played in this game.
Speaker 1: You're rolling a fourteen deep bench in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Well, I guess that would be the true testament of
Speaker 3: Golden State actually having a deep bench.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean that's that's the problem that you
Speaker 2: want to have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just like, wow, they are really really really
Speaker 1: rolling out now. Players eight through fourteen have not scored
Speaker 1: a point and are.
Speaker 2: A combined zero of eight from the field. But you know,
Speaker 2: but listen, if you Steve Kurry, you like it.
Speaker 3: If you are David Adaman of the Denver Nuggets, you
Speaker 3: would want something comparable to that, being able to go
Speaker 3: that deep into your bench and just kind of rely
Speaker 3: on guys and give you minutes here and there even
Speaker 3: if they don't score points.
Speaker 2: Maybe they even grab some rebounds. Yeah, they started quitting
Speaker 2: post at the center.
Speaker 1: They got nothing out of him fore minutes eighteen seconds
Speaker 1: and absolutely no productivity whatsoever. The leaders zero across the
Speaker 1: stat line. Uh, and then they've just been running with
Speaker 1: Kaminga in his place.
Speaker 2: Well, this is gonna be an interesting Uh.
Speaker 3: You know playoffs when you look around around the league. Uh,
Speaker 3: you like, think about the indi Enda Pacers in that
Speaker 3: in that series against Cleveland. I mean it's similar to
Speaker 3: the Knicks in the Celtics because Cleveland is is a
Speaker 3: is a better team I think overall.
Speaker 2: But they have a couple of guys injured.
Speaker 3: But they in two games had leads and the and
Speaker 3: they blew leads only to let the same person right,
Speaker 3: the same person in every single game not down the
Speaker 3: game winner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: And after after all that nonsense coming out about him
Speaker 1: getting voted by his peers the most overrated player in basketball? Like,
Speaker 1: did you find that as bizarre as I did? Like
Speaker 1: they had this list, you know, the NFL, like the
Speaker 1: NFL does with the NFL one hundred. But it's the
Speaker 1: NBA put out something the most overrated players has voted
Speaker 1: on my player, right, Tyler Haliburton, And they voted they
Speaker 1: voted Aliburton to be the most overrated player in the NBA.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, he might be the most underrated.
Speaker 1: Player in the NBA's tweet ye last two games. Yes,
Speaker 1: I love it, feed into it, feed off it. But
Speaker 1: this he might be the most underrated player in the NBA.
Speaker 1: How how are you and you basketball players voting on this?
Speaker 1: How do you vote him overrated? Well?
Speaker 3: I guess when they look at the grand scheme of things,
Speaker 3: and you talk about the same ten NBA players and
Speaker 3: like five top players, He's.
Speaker 2: Not mentioned in that conversation.
Speaker 3: Just all you have to do is go back to
Speaker 3: watch the team playing last year in the Olympics, and
Speaker 3: Halliburton is a very talented player, great perimeter shooter.
Speaker 2: He didn't even get a lot of run on that team.
Speaker 3: And maybe, like Jason Tatum, Satan played in like one
Speaker 3: game and then he just set him down. And maybe
Speaker 3: that's probably why people looking at have a burden fair
Speaker 3: and unfair in that particular way.
Speaker 2: Five six, six nine zeros in text line.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you know it's it's this round of
Speaker 1: the playoffs has been a lot more competitive than I
Speaker 1: thought every than I think everybody thought it was gonna be.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people thought Boston was going
Speaker 1: to put it to uh New York. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people thought that Cleveland was going to put
Speaker 1: it to the Pacers. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: thought that, Okay, so he was gonna put it to
Speaker 1: the Nuggets.
Speaker 2: And there's there's split a one one well I think with.
Speaker 1: I think I think the series was the one everybody
Speaker 1: thought would be competitive, would be Golden State in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you thought it would be.
Speaker 3: But Minnesota, more or less, they're built and constructed to.
Speaker 2: Beat the Nuggets.
Speaker 1: Right They're a defensive basketball team, and if they don't
Speaker 1: have you know, if they don't have Edwards out there,
Speaker 1: they struggle to generate enough offense to win.
Speaker 2: How do they struggle with offense? Sometimes he is in there?
Speaker 2: I know it. This was just saying, I mean, like it.
Speaker 1: It's a weird rotation because you got a guy in
Speaker 1: nas Reed who was very offensive player, but they just
Speaker 1: put Gobert out there so much.
Speaker 3: But here's an interesting thing about the playoffs this year,
Speaker 3: And if you're Adam Silver, you have to be happy
Speaker 3: about what you're seeing because the game last night with
Speaker 3: the Nuggets lost to ok See, that was the first
Speaker 3: team to win a home game on their court. No
Speaker 3: one else has done it thus far. So there's some
Speaker 3: fans aren't happy about in some fans who are not,
Speaker 3: But Adam Silver has to be happy about what you're
Speaker 3: seeing right now because call it what you want to,
Speaker 3: this is a very exciting NBA playoffs, both in the
Speaker 3: Eastern Conference of Western Conference because you have some really
Speaker 3: quality teams in any of these teams, if they play
Speaker 3: their great best games, could be worthy of facing off
Speaker 3: for winning the championship. But right now you're not getting
Speaker 3: home teams playing.
Speaker 2: Their best basketball. And why is it?
Speaker 1: Because? I mean, home court advantage in the NBA is
Speaker 1: a very real thing. I had more than a lot
Speaker 1: of other sports. I mean, but the NBA, the correlation
Speaker 1: is high, I think than any others.
Speaker 2: Right, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like it is, it has always been a big deal,
Speaker 1: and it's not like the fans are been less engaged
Speaker 1: like If anything, it seems like like that game with
Speaker 1: a thunder the other night for the Nuggets, those fans
Speaker 1: were going crazy the entire time.
Speaker 2: But were they going crazy?
Speaker 3: And okac because now they expect the team to be
Speaker 3: this to be their breakout year, SGA, to win the
Speaker 3: MVP of the league, for them to finally after all
Speaker 3: that the trouble with you know, KD Russell and James
Speaker 3: Harden when they had an opportunity, I think they were
Speaker 3: up three to one on Golden State during that time
Speaker 3: period and Golden State came back and won that series.
Speaker 3: So okay, see for them, I mean they don't they
Speaker 3: don't have a football team I mean, they have Oklahoma Soonners,
Speaker 3: but they don't have a professional.
Speaker 2: Football professional football team, right, so.
Speaker 3: So for them, this is the end all be all,
Speaker 3: So they're going to get up for those particular games.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's a sense of I mean, to
Speaker 1: be fair that New York has not had a professional
Speaker 1: football team.
Speaker 2: In a while either. Wow, shots fire.
Speaker 1: And I'm not just playing that because they play a
Speaker 1: New Jersey. I'm just saying they haven't looked like professional
Speaker 1: football players.
Speaker 2: Okay, SHOT's fire, Okay, jets.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna acting as though I'm overlook that well day,
Speaker 3: But do you guys think that you know, you got
Speaker 3: We're talking about home court advantage and that's supposed to
Speaker 3: be the thing.
Speaker 2: Do you think that some players.
Speaker 3: Kind of over think that and said, Okay, well we're
Speaker 3: playing at home.
Speaker 2: So we're supposed to win. Maybe that's the problem.
Speaker 3: They're thinking that's supposed to win and then I'm going
Speaker 3: out there putting that effort in night in and night out.
Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean, maybe there is that whole you know,
Speaker 2: we're X Y and Z.
Speaker 1: I think the other part of these season is I
Speaker 1: think the teams that are left are closer in talent
Speaker 1: level than maybe the records indicate, you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: agree with that. Maybe what happened was you had the
Speaker 1: Boston to whatever else beating up on certain other teams
Speaker 1: over the course of the season, over an eighty two
Speaker 1: game season. They just happened to get, you know, happen
Speaker 1: to get a few more wins against.
Speaker 2: Some of these crummy teams.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, these guys, what
Speaker 1: you're getting are the actual good teams in basketball playing
Speaker 1: each other in a lot closer than people think.
Speaker 2: All right, now, I'll throw this out there too as well.
Speaker 3: Usually when you talk about home court advantage, home field advantage,
Speaker 3: hometown cookiinge that involves getting certain calls.
Speaker 2: Right are you?
Speaker 3: Do you think that the refs are aware of that
Speaker 3: whole home court advantage and they say, well, we want
Speaker 3: to find a way to even the playing field, so
Speaker 3: we're not going to call as many calls that we
Speaker 3: normally would call, and we allow guys to play more
Speaker 3: in the postseason.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's just postseason officiating versus regular season.
Speaker 1: It's how it's always been in the NBA the past
Speaker 1: twenty five years, basically, is that they call it tight
Speaker 1: in the regular season. And they let you play in
Speaker 1: the in the postseason. I saw a stat the other
Speaker 1: day where it was like, the least amount of fouls
Speaker 1: called in the NBA playoffs in like fifteen years or
Speaker 1: something was this year. So there's got to be some
Speaker 1: sort of you know, like initiative or whatever. I don't know,
Speaker 1: that's not the right word, but something like that from
Speaker 1: the commissioner, the higher ups in the league to say, hey,
Speaker 1: him play a little bit.
Speaker 2: Didn't feel like that last night.
Speaker 1: It felt like Scott Foster was back off injury, he
Speaker 1: wanted to wanted to get his camera time. How was
Speaker 1: he the face of like NBA you joke. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: felt like he was trying to get some face. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just like, what's his face used to the biceps?
Speaker 1: Used to be trying to get the Holy yeah, used
Speaker 1: to be trying to get the camera time, flexing the
Speaker 1: flexing the biceps.
Speaker 3: See, Grant, you said something that most in sports, especially basketball,
Speaker 3: don't really want to hear you say it, Like, Okay, well,
Speaker 3: did the commission to say during the regular season, we're
Speaker 3: gonna call the games like this, and we're gonna call
Speaker 3: it differently in the in the postseason.
Speaker 2: So so there's a.
Speaker 3: Different set of books, there's a different set of rules
Speaker 3: that we have.
Speaker 2: They swallow the whistle.
Speaker 3: Oh so could that mean that maybe a guy like
Speaker 3: Ben may like games like this because they may favor
Speaker 3: him knowing as though they would swallow the whistle.
Speaker 2: A little gambling advantage. Okay, I'm not saying hey, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying yeah. I'm not saying exactly what.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying yes because I've always thought leg yes,
Speaker 3: because the officiating is different, it is a little tighter.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of guys to foul a little
Speaker 3: more unless you're in Nikola yokids and you get fouled all.
Speaker 1: The time and don't free free throws in the game. Well,
Speaker 1: what ironically is calling you a free throw mergent while
Speaker 1: they're not looking at s g A right over there.
Speaker 3: But but it does raise lutle question and make one wonder. Okay,
Speaker 3: do those conversations actually takes.
Speaker 2: Place or are they implied? That's all I'm saying, a
Speaker 2: little wink wink, Yeah, that's all you.
Speaker 3: Like to say, say, Grant, just just go ahead, nod, right,
Speaker 3: you pick it up on what I'm putting down.
Speaker 2: Could that be a possibility, Yeah.
Speaker 1: We should maybe discuss it over a six pack or something,
Speaker 1: which we got coming up next here in Brookos Country
Speaker 1: to night.
Speaker 2: Tonight.
Speaker 1: I Benjamin Albright, Nick fergus In Grand Smith back there
Speaker 1: hoarding his Rockies winning power.
Speaker 2: Just gonna hit slopes, man, slopes. Don't disappoint me fair enough?
Speaker 2: Did I see yoursn't gonna do a little six pack?
Speaker 2: You sound like you're from London town. You'll get that
Speaker 2: reference to you. I don't.
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's to Paul Rudd in uh forgetting Sarah Marshall
Speaker 1: when he's talking to Russell Brown. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great movie. Time for second.
Speaker 1: That's what what Howly? Yes, No, that's that's mister that's
Speaker 1: mister Hanky. Though I can't remember Tally's voice.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, very very high pitched, not like the
Speaker 1: carbon thing you get back in the kitchen. Make me
Speaker 1: some pey, but like I don't have the I don't
Speaker 1: have the Tally voice that there you go say that
Speaker 1: right now? Well whatever, let's do an NFL six pack.
Speaker 5: It's time for the NFL. I'm gonna take the last
Speaker 5: year and insight, insight in for me. You can't find
Speaker 5: anywhere else I know the top six NFL headline.
Speaker 6: What yesterday the Pittsburgh Steelers traded wide receiver George Pickens
Speaker 6: to the Dallas Cowboys for a third round pick. Did
Speaker 6: they get enough for Pickens? And what do you think
Speaker 6: Pickens will do in Dallas?
Speaker 1: I think this is a rare win win situation. I
Speaker 1: think they fleeced uh in terms of what they got.
Speaker 1: I mean, they had teams laughing at him when they
Speaker 1: were all in their call around offering him off. At
Speaker 1: the same time, I believe Pickens is a fit for
Speaker 1: what Dallas wants to do. You look at the heat maps.
Speaker 1: Somewhere Ceedee Lamb works Ceedee Lamb works the middle of
Speaker 1: the field, between the numbers and the you know, in
Speaker 1: the mid game. And and Pickens is a deep ball guy.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's really gonna help out.
Speaker 1: You gotta see CD working out of the slot quite
Speaker 1: a bit. You're gonna see Pickens working the outside.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Pickens is gonna get better matchups than he got in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: where he was always against CEB onees. Now he's probably
Speaker 1: gonna get CEB twos. You know, it's just I think
Speaker 1: a good thing. Dallas is gonna be a problem with you.
Speaker 1: I've been telling you since Braun shot number got hired.
Speaker 1: What else is gonna be a problem this year? Watch
Speaker 1: your career renovation for Javante as well.
Speaker 2: Wow, career renovation, Sign me up for it.
Speaker 3: I would love to see Javonte really start to get off.
Speaker 3: But this is a great pickup for the Cowboys for
Speaker 3: all the reasons that been mentioned. But when you look
Speaker 3: at what they're trying to put together offensively complimentary and
Speaker 3: we all know, like on third and long situation, we
Speaker 3: know where Dak is going with the ball. Almost similar
Speaker 3: to watching the CU game and knowing well Shadora's doing
Speaker 3: to number twelve, but now having someone.
Speaker 2: Opposite him to compliment him.
Speaker 3: It also opens up the offense and you think about
Speaker 3: the two tight ends that they have Sooner Maker and
Speaker 3: Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 2: It changes a lot as far as what they can
Speaker 2: do offensively. Now. I don't know if.
Speaker 3: The Cowboys are going to rewrite the offensive history books,
Speaker 3: but they're gonna make it really competitive in their division.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be a physical football team. You got Clayton
Speaker 1: Adams is the OC there, Brian Shott Eimers head CO.
Speaker 2: J Adams is an offensive line coach. He likes the
Speaker 2: big boys. They like to run downhill and all that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a very physical It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a change of pace a little bit, maybe even a throwback.
Speaker 2: Offense a little bit as far as what they do.
Speaker 1: But between Ceedee Lamb, Jalen Tolbert, George Pickens on the
Speaker 1: front line, and as Nick mentioned, the tight ends, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a fascinating offense. I'm looking forward to seeing
Speaker 1: Dallas this year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think that offense with Dak Prescott was
Speaker 6: at its best when you had, you know, a true
Speaker 6: X and Michael Gallup and then a great tight end
Speaker 6: working the scene with like Dalton Schultz.
Speaker 2: Now you've got a tight end and X with Pickens two.
Speaker 6: After just one season with the team, The Carolina Panthers
Speaker 6: are releasing edge defender Jadeveon Clowney. Where do you think
Speaker 6: Clowney lands and should the Denver Broncos be interested?
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be interested in his price point,
Speaker 1: and that's sort of been the problem with Clowney over
Speaker 1: the last few years. The price point on Clowney exceeds
Speaker 1: the production of Clowney Klyde really is more than that
Speaker 1: Zach Allen role than he is an edge guy like
Speaker 1: a Nick Benito, but he gets paid like an edge
Speaker 1: guy at a Nick Benito because what ten years ago
Speaker 1: he had nine to nine and a half sacks and
Speaker 1: back to back seasons or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three in Baltimore, when he had all that
Speaker 1: time around him, he managed to get nine and a half,
Speaker 1: but a lot of that was clean up work. In Carolina,
Speaker 1: he was only getting five and a half sacks. You're
Speaker 1: probably again talking about a guy who's in that Zach
Speaker 1: Allen role. I mean, yeah, okay, all right, there's something there,
Speaker 1: but who can afford to pay, you know, edge rusher
Speaker 1: price for a five tech toe?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think when you look at where Clowny is at
Speaker 3: this stage of his career, this is where things are
Speaker 3: winding down.
Speaker 2: For all that brilliance he had.
Speaker 3: And that energy coming into the league, he doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 3: And the reason being is because not just because he's
Speaker 3: an older player, is that he's lost his desire. You know,
Speaker 3: when you first come into the league, I mean, you
Speaker 3: want to make an instant impact. You want to make
Speaker 3: sure that you're earning the dollars that teams are willing
Speaker 3: to pay you. But have you get paid for a while.
Speaker 3: You've been on a couple of subpar teams. I mean,
Speaker 3: your driving love for the game starts to disappear. So
Speaker 3: the idea of him possibly coming here, know, there are
Speaker 3: other young players that I would say that George Payton
Speaker 3: should invest in instead of.
Speaker 2: A player like this. Connie has been in the league
Speaker 2: for ten years. He's been on seven different teams. That's
Speaker 2: a lot of teams. He's been a mercenary the.
Speaker 6: Last few and outside of that stinting with Baltimore, he's
Speaker 6: been really ineffective. And Baltimore takes a lot of random
Speaker 6: dudes and makes them effective, Like Kyle van Noyan.
Speaker 1: Well, they got him on a discount deal. Baltimore got
Speaker 1: him for one year, four point five million, got the
Speaker 1: production out of Bounce. He went over to Carolina and
Speaker 1: ask for ten million. You know that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: That's what he's asking for, is like ten million dollars
Speaker 1: a year. He's made ninety five million over of course
Speaker 1: in his career. He's not gonna You're not Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna get that. At that point, if you're clowny.
Speaker 1: You're waiting out into training. Can you go workout? You're
Speaker 1: waiting out of training camp for somebody to get hurt
Speaker 1: and see if you can get them. By way, can
Speaker 1: anybody name the seven teams that Jadvan Collen's play for?
Speaker 2: Anybody?
Speaker 6: Texans okay, Panthers, Cleveland Browns, Yeah, Ravens yep, Seahawks, yup,
Speaker 6: there's two more, really.
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. He was with the tight I.
Speaker 1: Twenty seasons with Tennessee Titans on the Texans sectially six teams,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Texans, Seahawks, Texans, Titans, Browns, Ravens, Panthers three.
Speaker 6: Similarly to Clowney, the Jacksonville Jaguars have chosen to release
Speaker 6: wide receiver Gabe Davis after he's spent just one season
Speaker 6: with the team. A little more free agency regret. Where
Speaker 6: do you think Davis ends up? And do you think
Speaker 6: a Buffalo reunion is on the table.
Speaker 2: I think they're full up in Buffalo. I don't think
Speaker 2: they need him.
Speaker 1: The reality is Gabe Davis has always been sort of
Speaker 1: overpaid relative to what his production is. The other the
Speaker 1: flip side of that, though, is he's only twenty five
Speaker 1: years old. You know, Gave Davis has been around the
Speaker 1: league for this He's completed five seasons and he's only
Speaker 1: twenty five years old. Never had a season above eight
Speaker 1: hundred yards. That was twenty twenty three, and part of
Speaker 1: that was because he had that ninety eight yard reception
Speaker 1: that year that put Loost of the total over that.
Speaker 1: But he is a guy who's had three seasons or
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns one season of six touchdowns. Maybe Buffalo brings
Speaker 1: him back on a discount deal like that, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'd look for somebody else that just needs
Speaker 1: a body at the receiver position to bring him in
Speaker 1: and give.
Speaker 2: Him a tryout.
Speaker 3: I can easily see the Buffalo Bill is bringing back
Speaker 3: because that was the biggest talk of the offseason and
Speaker 3: ideas that, well, who is Josh Allen throwing to?
Speaker 2: Because you have a bunch of guys that.
Speaker 3: You can say, well, they're not household names, but those
Speaker 3: guys can go and they.
Speaker 2: All fit their roles, they know what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: So adding a guy.
Speaker 3: Who was in the Bill's offense, who was very productive
Speaker 3: before getting a big deal from Jacksonville, why not bring
Speaker 3: him back.
Speaker 2: I mean, once again, it's the offensive firepower. I would
Speaker 2: say there's some other teams to keep your eye on here.
Speaker 1: Brian Dable, of course, was the offensive coordinator in Buffalo
Speaker 1: when he was drafted. Might be the New York Giants.
Speaker 1: Another something to keep your eye on. Dallas Cowboys. I
Speaker 1: know they just got pickets. Keep your eye on Dallas
Speaker 1: for Gave Davis if they get it for the right deal.
Speaker 1: You've got Ken Dorsey, who was on that Buffalo staff
Speaker 1: with him is on the Dallas staff now as a
Speaker 1: passing game specialist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's to keep your on the Cowboys for Gave
Speaker 2: Davis or sorry.
Speaker 6: Houston Texans second round rookie receiver Jayden Niggins has become
Speaker 6: the first ever player selected outside the first round to
Speaker 6: have the entirety of his rookie contract guaranteed.
Speaker 2: What do you make of this development?
Speaker 6: I guess this uh uh first ever instance of this happening.
Speaker 6: And do you think this will be a watershed moment
Speaker 6: for more second round maybe other mid round picks to
Speaker 6: get their contracts fully guaranteed moving forward?
Speaker 1: No, I think you could see that. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: that's the next phase of what happens right second one.
Speaker 1: But I mean those contracts are not that big anyway.
Speaker 1: I mean his total deals with eleven million something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's in the team a lot of teams. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: total deal for four years is an eleven million. You
Speaker 1: might as well it's it's not hurting you. You probably
Speaker 1: put some offset language in there. But you know, end
Speaker 1: of the day, second round those contracts, as you get back,
Speaker 1: are cheaper and cheaper fully guaranteeing them is next to
Speaker 1: nothing for it for a team. So if it makes
Speaker 1: a guy happy, gets him signed.
Speaker 2: Why not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, check with me when they start doing that for
Speaker 3: like first rounders, right for some, but you know now
Speaker 3: what they do for some, but not guaranteeing it for
Speaker 3: all because to me, now you push that elvelo to
Speaker 3: the point where NFLPA started thinking, like, you know what
Speaker 3: says you're willing to go this far, how about going
Speaker 3: a little further, and started to guarantee more money for
Speaker 3: a lot of the players.
Speaker 2: Now we do know when guys sound that signed.
Speaker 3: Their contracts initially that bonus money is kind of guaranteed
Speaker 3: to them.
Speaker 2: But trying to get more of that on the books,
Speaker 2: I could see that the.
Speaker 3: NFLPA and the players trying to fight for more of it,
Speaker 3: especially known as though at some point we're going to
Speaker 3: eighteen games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, guarantee all rookie deals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a lot, because they're already slotted contracts, and
Speaker 1: just guarantee them all. Take all the negotiation out. I
Speaker 1: guarantee them all, you know, and see what happens from there.
Speaker 2: They're not that big.
Speaker 6: And if you make it to the NFL average con
Speaker 6: or career length being two and a half three and
Speaker 6: a half years, I think it's great. Yeah, give him,
Speaker 6: give him that full contract upfront.
Speaker 5: Five.
Speaker 6: Even though the NFL Draft has just wrapped up, we
Speaker 6: already have odds for the twenty twenty six NFL Draft
Speaker 6: and who will be the first overall pick. Arch Manning
Speaker 6: is the favorite at plus two hundred.
Speaker 2: Full time Texas Interesting.
Speaker 6: Followed by Drew Aller at plus two to twenty five,
Speaker 6: Garrett nuss Meyer at plus four fifty, Kid Club Nick
Speaker 6: at plus eighteen hundred.
Speaker 2: After that, you've got your Silo Downs.
Speaker 6: Sellers is at plus twenty five hundred, tied with Caleb Downs.
Speaker 2: That's the one to lay money on. Yeah, I watch
Speaker 2: For'm backing to South Carolina. You watched him. He's having
Speaker 2: aper athletic. Yeah, he's yeah, he's a ball man. He's
Speaker 2: got he's got to.
Speaker 1: Fix the passing game a little bit portion of his game.
Speaker 1: But he's all world athlete.
Speaker 6: But he's not that raw, you know, especially when we
Speaker 6: were just talking about Jalen Miilro being invited to the
Speaker 6: draft and could he maybe sneak into the first round?
Speaker 6: Of course he didn't, But I mean, I think Sellers
Speaker 6: is a good bit further along than Milroe. Another just
Speaker 6: freak athlete, great arm, thereat, mobility. But anyways, who do
Speaker 6: you think goes number one? And what do you think
Speaker 6: of Manning being the big favorite despite the fact twenty
Speaker 6: twenty five would be his first season.
Speaker 1: Starting for text I managed not leaving college earlier like that,
Speaker 1: He'll stay at Texas. Leonora Sellers is the one to
Speaker 1: lay the money, especially at that value at twenty five hundred.
Speaker 2: Uh, Sellers is six.
Speaker 1: Three two forty two, hyperathletic, phenomenal quarterback down there in
Speaker 1: South Carolina. That's the one to lay. Garrettnus Meyer's just
Speaker 1: a guy, uh, and I would be I would.
Speaker 2: Be surprised if he's a first rounder.
Speaker 1: Who else just say club nick fringe guy, older how
Speaker 1: it would be the other guy to you know, if
Speaker 1: you're not, if you're not laying on sellers, you'd land
Speaker 1: Drew Aller out of Penn State. He would have been
Speaker 1: a first round pick if he come out this year.
Speaker 1: Why are people so high on him though? Like I
Speaker 1: watched a lot of Penn stalls last year. Tools he
Speaker 1: doesn't produce in the game. Tools he's got. He's got
Speaker 1: a rifle, he's got a cannon for an arm, and
Speaker 1: he can run.
Speaker 3: See see that is what's wrong with the quarterback evaluation process.
Speaker 3: Oh let's look at his arm. Oh, forget about he's
Speaker 3: not producing, he's not winning games. Look at his arm.
Speaker 3: It's like, no, it's what happens above the neck and
Speaker 3: what happens below the waist. That's why I'm not a
Speaker 3: fan of looking at a guy's arm. But this is
Speaker 3: why everyone loves arch Manning because he is so different
Speaker 3: than his two uncles. Right, what, he's more like his grandfather.
Speaker 3: If you go back and watch his grandfather's film, which
Speaker 3: I did, would pull you out of the water at
Speaker 3: old Miss.
Speaker 2: It just so happens that he happened to be drafted
Speaker 2: and go to the Saints. But Archie Manning was a dog.
Speaker 3: At the quarterback in Arch Manning because he can run
Speaker 3: and that is the modern day NFL.
Speaker 1: I believe Arch will be the first overall tick in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven draft. But I don't think he comes.
Speaker 1: He's a man, he's not coming out of How much
Speaker 1: money is he making way more than he.
Speaker 2: Would make way conch right, Yeah, he's making that. Iow money.
Speaker 1: This ob seen the morning Leonora's Sellers. By the way,
Speaker 1: forty times four to five six. He's a bench of
Speaker 1: two seventy, squad of four to seventy, and a clean
Speaker 1: of two seventy.
Speaker 2: Like he is.
Speaker 1: He is a huge, strong, good quarterback. The dude's gonna
Speaker 1: be the next Josh Allen. But this is why then
Speaker 1: is saying putting.
Speaker 3: The numbers on this kid, because guess what, Arts is
Speaker 3: not gonna come out because I'm gonna tell him, Look,
Speaker 3: you need to be more polished in besides, you make
Speaker 3: it too much dope.
Speaker 2: Stay in college.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's no rush for him to get to the
Speaker 6: NFL and get that money either, because not only cause
Speaker 6: that I own money.
Speaker 2: He's part of the Manning family. It's not like he's
Speaker 2: purting like some of these kids are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he comes for money. They just making money. Hey,
Speaker 1: there's no hurry for him to get to the NFL.
Speaker 2: Just print more money. In this conversation, they just printed
Speaker 2: more money. I'll put it to you this way.
Speaker 1: Unless there's some really well coached team with a ton
Speaker 1: of talent that has just a crap year because of
Speaker 1: injury or something like that, arts ain't coming out.
Speaker 2: Six.
Speaker 6: NFL dot Com has gone through and ranked all fifteen
Speaker 6: quarterbacks that are currently on rookie contracts, starting quarterbacks, that is,
Speaker 6: and they've ranked bo Nicks seven on that list, behind
Speaker 6: Jade and Daniels at one, CJ Stroud at two, Rock
Speaker 6: Party at three, Bryce Young at four, Drake May at five,
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams at six, and then you have bow Knicks
Speaker 6: there at seven. Cam Ward comes in right behind him
Speaker 6: at eight. So they're ranking their.
Speaker 2: Rookie okay, Yeah, I forget the guys who haven't played yet.
Speaker 2: How many guys who have played are ranked behind bow.
Speaker 6: Pennix Pennix, I didn't list all the guys behind him,
Speaker 6: but I think five okay, earth, yeah, because there aren't
Speaker 6: any brother fils disrespectful, you know, with all due respect
Speaker 6: to Bryce Young who after getting.
Speaker 1: Bench revitalized his career. I'm not sure he put up
Speaker 1: enough to sit there and say that I would have
Speaker 1: him ranked ahead a bow rock party's about to be
Speaker 1: on another deal, so that I get that.
Speaker 2: H and he's played well.
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, I mean, I think that's anticipatory of what
Speaker 1: he does with Ben Johnson more than anything else.
Speaker 2: So I don't know that felt a little disrespectful both.
Speaker 6: What the guys behind, sorry the guy's behind bow Here.
Speaker 6: You've got Michael Pennix at nine, JJ McCarthy at ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he played Anthony Richard Anthony, Yeah, belong to then?
Speaker 6: Yeah aight, o'connaw at twelve, take it at thirteen, Willis
Speaker 6: at fourteen, Milroe.
Speaker 1: At fifteen, Yeah, the muscle. Those guys hadn't played. I
Speaker 1: get that, but but here's the thing though.
Speaker 2: Cam Ward is at eight, yeah, and he hasn't played
Speaker 2: a single game played snap that's one game. That's one
Speaker 2: nuts below bow Knicks.
Speaker 3: What's interesting too, is that those guys who, some of
Speaker 3: the guys below bow Knicks are the guys who was
Speaker 3: drafted in the same class, like JJ McCarthy. We still
Speaker 3: don't know what he is because he hasn't played. He
Speaker 3: could blossom into something. But this is going to be
Speaker 3: really interesting to see how this plays out this year
Speaker 3: from the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: I was just curious how they were ranking the known
Speaker 1: commodities so far because I'm like, man, it feels a
Speaker 1: little disrespectful.
Speaker 2: It's crazy to me that Bryce Young is ahead of him.
Speaker 2: Bryce looked really.
Speaker 1: Good in that second half, but that's a much shorter
Speaker 1: sample size that he's looked good in than the sample
Speaker 1: size Bow's look good in.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 6: I mean bo looked good over the second half too,
Speaker 6: and I bet if you compare their numbers just over
Speaker 6: the second half of the season, Bo is ahead probably
Speaker 6: for Young probably across the board. And I also has
Speaker 6: a style that projects to probably I don't know, Babe
Speaker 6: grow developed something in the league well.
Speaker 1: For Young is struggling to get what he can out
Speaker 1: of his physical tools. Yeah, I mean again, I think
Speaker 1: Ryce Young looked pretty good this year. It's his second
Speaker 1: year in Canalis's offense. They started to put some weapons
Speaker 1: around him. I think I think it'll look better, but
Speaker 1: it just does feel a little bit like, Okay, come on, guys,
Speaker 1: like you know, what does Nicks have to do?
Speaker 2: Go ahead? And do it for another season.
Speaker 3: Okay, here's one that's extraordinary on this list is Drake May.
Speaker 2: Yeah being ahead of him, Well, well, well, what about.
Speaker 3: What Drake May was at the beginning of the season
Speaker 3: and how he looked towards the end.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the reason.
Speaker 3: Why he is leap frog bow in this case, because
Speaker 3: they're giving him the New England bump, right, they giving
Speaker 3: him Mike Rabel, what they're doing in the off season drafting,
Speaker 3: and how well he played in the back end of
Speaker 3: the season.
Speaker 2: So maybe that's why he got the bump.
Speaker 1: Maybe I think, like I said, with the callable interest thing,
Speaker 1: that's got to be anticipatory.
Speaker 2: With you know, with the Ben Jonson thing, more than
Speaker 2: he is what he's done. I don't know that. I
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