WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 A couple of nights this week no football, So I've 2 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:08.320 decided to fire up some friends reminisce go old school, 3 00:00:08.880 --> 00:00:13.080 get nostalgic, enjoy the phenomenal acting of that great cast, 4 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:18.879 namely one Courtney Cox, I underrated member of the Friends cast. 5 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:20.839 Neither here nor there. Let's get to our next guest. 6 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:24.239 Talk a little football, talk, a little baseball, whatever comes 7 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:26.079 our way with my guy, Roxy Bernstein. 8 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:29.039 Roxy, Happy Friday, Sir, How are you Spence? 9 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:30.920 That's never gonna get old? It's truly not. 10 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:34.159 I can't stop the bit, Roxy, I can't stop the bit. 11 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:37.759 I never will we going come on? Yeah, I'm with 12 00:00:37.799 --> 00:00:39.039 you on that A one hundred percent. 13 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:42.200 Now for our new listeners. I say this every time 14 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:43.079 Roxy joins us. 15 00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:43.479 Roxy. 16 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:48.399 The cliche one of one is overused. What makes Roxy 17 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:52.000 Bernstey one of one several things. Namely, he is a 18 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:56.719 phenomenal broadcaster. He does a tremendous job on whatever he does, football, baseball, basketball, 19 00:00:56.719 --> 00:01:00.000 But he also has a continuing beef with Courtney Cox 20 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:02.920 because he's friends with the lead singer of Counting Crows 21 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:05.560 and she broke his heart. I just we have new listeners, Rocksy, 22 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:07.040 I just have to remind them of the deal. 23 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:12.040 Spence. Bill Walton was clearly one of one, and I 24 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:14.519 just happened to be one of probably a few. You know, 25 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:17.319 there's a few of Adam's close friends, and we all 26 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:21.280 probably have a general distaste for Courteney's, so I can't 27 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:23.079 be just one of one in that regard. 28 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:25.920 How is my guy, Adam Durretz these days? How's he doing? 29 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:29.120 He's good. They just finish up tour. He's all pumped 30 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:33.400 because the Golden Bears for the first time, College Game 31 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:37.400 Day will broadcast from Berkeley tomorrow. In the history of 32 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:41.680 that program, they've never had Lee Corso put on Osky's 33 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:46.480 head or the other mascot Tomorrow with Sebastia the ibis is. 34 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:50.120 Miami's in town to play cal but the first time 35 00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:54.599 College Game Day will broadcast from Berkeley. I hope whoever 36 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:58.640 holds the bleak button with Marshaun Lynch being the guest 37 00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:01.400 picker is ready to go when that show comes to 38 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:05.519 a conclusion around nine o'clock specific ten Mountain time tomorrow, 39 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:07.840 because I think that button might get used a few 40 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:08.560 times tomorrow. 41 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:12.199 Well said, and you know you didn't see my notes today, 42 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:14.800 but you stole my first question because as a proud alum, 43 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.560 I mean it has to be pretty cool, and you 44 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:20.199 know what there I haven't seen a ton of them, 45 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:22.719 but I think they're a little bit improved based off 46 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:25.000 of the chaos that that program's had to deal with. 47 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:27.680 I mean, I still chuckle when I say Cal out. 48 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:28.120 Of the ACC. 49 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:31.520 But with game day in town, with game day in 50 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:34.080 town in Berkeley and a really good Miami team rolling 51 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:37.120 in the spread is ten, which is sizable, do you 52 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:39.280 think they'll be motivated to make this thing interesting? You 53 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:40.759 think they've got a shot at the upset? 54 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:43.759 Oh? Yeah, I do. They're at home and Spence. They're 55 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:48.599 a really good defensive team. They have some shortcomings offensively. 56 00:02:48.759 --> 00:02:52.960 I have concern about Cal's offensive line. I like the quarterback. 57 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:57.400 I think Bernando Mendoza has grown and now is redshirt sophomore, 58 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:01.400 is comfortable in the offense. They were three and zero 59 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:04.319 going into that game against Florida State and lost a 60 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:06.159 tough one on the road, a game they should have won. 61 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:08.759 But you know, the kicker misses a couple of chip 62 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:11.520 shot field goals and you don't score on off as 63 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:14.280 a touchdown and you lose a thirteen to nine game. 64 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:18.000 It makes it frustrating, but they went on the road, 65 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:21.599 they wanted Auburn. They tie have tied for the most 66 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:25.639 interceptions in the country defensively, so this is going to 67 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:27.840 be an inspiring performance. They're going to be ready. There's 68 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:31.599 a lot of hype and buzz around this and Cal's 69 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:33.439 got an opportunity to make a name for themselves on 70 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:36.039 a national stage with a good shilling on game day 71 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:37.960 and if the team can follow it up Saturday night 72 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:39.240 against the You. 73 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:42.840 All right, Roxy, let's move over to the University of Utah. 74 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:46.400 Before we talk about any game specifically or what comes next, 75 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:49.280 you will not be well. You follow the new cycle. 76 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:51.719 You follow the program. We're former Pac twelve buddies, so 77 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:54.319 you know that for the second straight year, we're dealing 78 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:57.360 with a lot of unknown, a lot of ambiguity about 79 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:00.520 the quarterback under center Cameron Rising. Where I want to 80 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:03.240 start with you is, you know, in the NFL, in 81 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:06.360 the SEC, in the Big ten, you gotta report, got 82 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:09.919 to report injuries. And Steve Sarksian was asked about this 83 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:14.759 dynamic and he gave a very articulate answer, but ultimately 84 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:17.199 he said the report is a good thing, so that 85 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:19.360 everyone's clear of why we do this reported, so that 86 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:19.639 we can. 87 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:21.079 Minimize the leaks in our building. 88 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:23.560 From a gambling perspective, nobody wants to know the truth, 89 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:25.800 right everybody's trying to figure out who's planning and who's not. 90 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:28.480 And then if you don't report, everybody wants to call 91 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:31.600 your student trainers and student managers and ask who's practice. 92 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:33.000 Who didn't didn't do all these things. 93 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:37.040 And then Dennis Dodd also quoted a gentleman who has 94 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:39.680 been hired by all P four conferences, and name is 95 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:43.000 Matt Holt, who is known as the founder of US 96 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:45.519 Integrity in Las Vegas, which doesn't sound like the thing, 97 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:48.920 but it is. And he talks about how he advises 98 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:51.959 the colleges to report injuries because if you don't, you're 99 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:54.720 putting your student athletes, your trainers, everybody at risk in 100 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:57.680 the program because those guys in the desert, as we 101 00:04:57.720 --> 00:04:59.720 all know, we'll do whatever they can to get information. 102 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:03.639 So coach Witt is under no obligation report. He believes 103 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:06.600 it's a competitive advantage. Some people would disagree with that, 104 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:08.639 but Kyle's job is to win games, not tell you 105 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:09.360 or me who's going. 106 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:10.120 To play quarterback. 107 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:12.480 Do you think we should just make it mandatory for 108 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:15.879 every school to report injuries to avoid the you know, 109 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:18.639 the kind of the chaos we find ourselves here in 110 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:19.279 Slick City. 111 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:23.920 I think there should be universal policy, not just okay, 112 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:26.399 this league's been does it or that league does it? 113 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:30.439 Especially among the Power for conferences. I think there should 114 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:34.040 be some unity between those leagues that they all do 115 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:36.560 the same thing. And it's not just for injuries, but 116 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:39.639 across the board they played the same number of conference games. 117 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:42.800 I think everything should be even as far as those 118 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:48.199 power conferences go, and that includes disclosing injuries. And look 119 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:52.160 how you saw Kyle Whitningham last year and even dealing 120 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:54.680 with it this year. How sick and tired was he 121 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:57.360 of answering the question about Cam Rising is he playing? 122 00:05:57.439 --> 00:05:59.600 Is he not playing? Who's going to play quarterback for you? 123 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:03.639 On set Saturday? And to the point where I think 124 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:06.319 it became a nuisance in a distraction, I think it 125 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:10.319 can help alleviate some of those issues which you alluded to, 126 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:13.480 that it's all out in the open and people know 127 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:18.000 exactly and I'll full disclosure. He was upfront and honest 128 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:21.759 with us. He trusted our crew last year when we 129 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.120 were what everybody was speculating, is Cam playing, is he 130 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:26.120 coming back? Who's going to be the quarterback? Is it 131 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:29.920 going to be Barnes? And he was upfront and honest 132 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:32.040 with us, and there was a level of trust. But 133 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:34.639 there's very few people that are in that circle of trust. 134 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:38.360 And I get the paranoia the coaches have because my 135 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:42.439 sister's married to a Division one head basketball coach, So 136 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:45.839 I get it from their perspective. And you keep the 137 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:48.800 opponent guessing because they have to prepare not only for Okay, 138 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:50.959 they're not sure if Cam's going to play, but Wilson 139 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.959 whoever plays quarterback when they go up against Utah. So 140 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:57.480 a preparation standpoint, it could give you a competitive advantage, 141 00:06:57.560 --> 00:06:59.959 But I would like to see it level across the board. 142 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:02.639 All the power conferences do the same thing. 143 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:04.319 Yeah, well said. 144 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:07.120 And you know there is a portion of the community 145 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:10.040 that's really down on Cameron, which I'm not with. 146 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:11.800 I'm not here for that. I mean, he's hurt and 147 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:13.959 when he's healthy, he will play. 148 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:16.959 And the knee injury last year was way worse than 149 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:20.639 anybody knew because nobody reported it until a writer from 150 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:23.120 the Athletic Front of the show Chris Comrodnie interviewed doctor 151 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:24.959 Neila Trash and then Cam came on. 152 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:27.759 Bill's show last year and I felt for him. 153 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:30.800 I mean, he sounded emotional and he actually went into detail. 154 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:33.279 I think people thought he may have like, you know, 155 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:37.959 sprained his MCL his knee exploded. And the piece that 156 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:41.240 Camaradnie wrote, he had access to Cam and Cam's family. 157 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:44.399 You could tell it really it really affected him. 158 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:45.879 He said he didn't want to leave the house his 159 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:49.040 door dash Bill was rising and a lot of dark days. 160 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:52.160 And you know, the deal with these young football players rocks. 161 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:55.199 I mean, it's like the old John Calipari quote when 162 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:56.519 he was asked how many NBA. 163 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:57.879 Players do you have in your locker room? He said 164 00:07:57.920 --> 00:07:59.639 I have twelve? Go ask him. You know, they all 165 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:03.319 think that are going these young people. Football is like 166 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:04.879 their identity, It's what they know. 167 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:07.199 I don't know Cam, if I don't know if Cam's 168 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:10.240 an NFL guy and coach Wit. Every time he's asked 169 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:13.399 about this and he, you know, a reportable reference. The 170 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:16.360 criticism Cam is taking, Kyle will say, well, I'm not 171 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:17.199 on social media. 172 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:18.000 I don't see any of that. 173 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:20.160 Well, guess who is his twenty five year old quarterback 174 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:22.800 and he obviously sees it, and he obviously is. 175 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:23.639 Affected by it. 176 00:08:23.879 --> 00:08:26.600 Do you think that dynamic should kind of change and 177 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:29.000 shift the paradigm as far as how they're handling it, 178 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:30.759 because it feels like Cam is taking a lot of 179 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:31.759 unnecessary heat. 180 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:34.960 Roxy it's unfair to criticize him. 181 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:37.679 His body is letting him down. It's not that he 182 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:39.320 doesn't want to play. 183 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:40.919 He physically can't. 184 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:43.159 And so how can you take shots at a kid 185 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:47.120 for trying to do whatever he can to get healthy 186 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:49.679 to get back out there on the field, but his 187 00:08:49.720 --> 00:08:53.639 body won't cooperate with that. And look, we all deal 188 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:57.240 with physical elements in life, especially as we get older, 189 00:08:57.480 --> 00:08:59.240 and there's nothing we can do about it. We do 190 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:03.879 our best prepared our bodies for life. And he's trying 191 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:06.639 to prepare his body to play football and his body's 192 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:11.240 not cooperating right now, and it's brutally unfair to take 193 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:14.600 a shot at him. Do you think that anybody wants 194 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:18.960 to play more than Cam Rising does? Absolutely not. He 195 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:20.840 wants to be out there in the worst way, but 196 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:23.799 he can't be. And I just don't understand the logic 197 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:26.360 from people that that they take shots and want to 198 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:29.360 criticize a kid when he physically can't go out there 199 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:32.679 and do it, because nobody wants to play. Nobody wants 200 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:36.159 to see Cam Rising on Rice Echo Stadium's field than 201 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:38.840 Cam Rising. I guarantee you that one hundred percent, and 202 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:41.360 nobody could convince me otherwise for sure. 203 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:43.840 Roxy and Kyle Boneguro joined us earlier and made a 204 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:46.519 really good point because one of this and look, I'm 205 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:48.919 not the radio host that's he's won tweet and creates 206 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:49.360 a topic. 207 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:50.759 I mean, this is a real thing. 208 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:53.679 Okay, there's a portion of the community that feels like 209 00:09:53.799 --> 00:09:56.240 Cam is just saving himself for the NFL. 210 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:58.679 But as Kyle said earlier. 211 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:01.519 Can didn't play a snap lash year, so he needs 212 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:04.360 tape this year to give the NFL team to show 213 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:06.519 that he's right. I don't know if he's an NFL quarterback, 214 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:09.360 but the notion that he's saving himself for pro football 215 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:13.240 when he badly needs tape to show the decision makers 216 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:15.720 in pro football that he can still play might be 217 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:17.559 the most lucrous thing I've seen so far. 218 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:22.080 It's it's asinine to think that that is a reality. 219 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:25.039 He's at this point with the injury that kept him 220 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:26.960 out all last year Spence and now I'm dealing with 221 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:29.320 an injury this year. I think that he's got to 222 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:31.120 prove of the GMS. He can get on the field 223 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:34.000 and he can play. That's what they want to see. 224 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:36.720 He's already got the production. They know he's a strong 225 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:39.679 quarterback and a great leader. Right now, it's just a 226 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:42.720 question about his durability. And I think Michael Pennix went 227 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:45.879 through that at Washington. To be honest with you, he's 228 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:48.080 an older quarterback when he came out last year, just 229 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:50.759 like Cam's an older quarterback. But the knock on him 230 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:53.559 was he couldn't stay healthy and they had to see 231 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:57.240 him complete seasons and he did it the last two years, 232 00:10:57.600 --> 00:10:59.559 and that's I think what Cam has to do, to 233 00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:01.639 be honest with you, in the eyes of the NFL, 234 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:04.879 they need to know that he can get out there 235 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:07.559 physically and do it. And you know, what's that old 236 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:12.960 line about a professional athlete, what's their best ability availability? 237 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:15.879 And I think at this point that's what the teams 238 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:19.279 want to see in the NFL, is can Camerising get 239 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:20.639 back out on the field. 240 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:23.919 Last thing on this then we'll move off it, because honestly, 241 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:26.480 it's exhausting, But it really is the one thing that 242 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:30.240 everybody asks me every time I show up at a 243 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:32.320 buddy's house. So what everyone wants to know what he's playing, 244 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:33.879 because of course there's so much at stake. 245 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:34.879 This is a good team. 246 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:38.000 They could go to the CFP and potentially without under 247 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:40.720 with Cam under center for the second straight year. We'll 248 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:43.519 be looking back and talking about, you know, what could 249 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:45.120 have been, or what ifs or what have you. So 250 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:47.840 I get it, but I wonder because there is part 251 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:52.240 of me that understands the frustration about the messaging where 252 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:55.879 every week, and look, all due respect, coach Wit said 253 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:59.000 earlier in the schedule, we are not doing this for gamesmanship. 254 00:11:59.399 --> 00:12:02.440 But see, they kind of did last year every week 255 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:04.799 when behind the scenes it was known that there's no 256 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:08.519 way he's playing. It was maybe game time week in 257 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:11.120 week out, we'll see and then sometimes he would dress, 258 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:13.960 then he wouldn't play. So they did utilize it to 259 00:12:14.519 --> 00:12:16.559 use a message where they thought they were getting an 260 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:20.799 advantage last year. Is it an advantage that's a legitimate debate. 261 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:24.080 But I do think there's some credence to the folks 262 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.080 around here that are just kind of tired of the 263 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:29.279 whole like, all right, week to week game time decision. Again, 264 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:32.360 I'm not criticizing Cam and I'm not criticizing Kyle his 265 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:34.480 jobs to win football games. If Kyle wouldn't hand the 266 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:37.600 head coach believes that by not reporting injuries he gets 267 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:41.080 a competitive advantage. That's well within the scope of his responsibilities. 268 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.679 But do you believe there's any credence at all to 269 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:46.000 the portion of youth fans around here that seem just 270 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:48.519 to be over the whole thing with the way the 271 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:49.879 messaging has kind of gone down. 272 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:55.240 I get it from the Utah fan perspective, because you're 273 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:57.960 so invested in the program and you want to see 274 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:02.879 the best players on the field, and so from that standpoint, 275 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:05.559 they've been okay, came back and started and got hurt again, 276 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:08.639 and it's now a year and a half, two years 277 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:13.440 that this speculation has gone on, and until he returns 278 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:16.480 to the field, unfortunately, I think you're going to have 279 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:18.759 this topic front and center and you're going to have 280 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:21.159 to deal with it' spence and oh Stein's going to 281 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:24.440 have to do with it on his show. But that's 282 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:26.960 unfortunately the nature of the Beast, and we all know 283 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.120 who's the most popular player. It's the quarterback and that's 284 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.240 what people want to talk about, and it won't change 285 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:37.320 in the NFL right right now, the questions around the 286 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:41.039 Dolphins and Tatonga Bilo and his future. He's the quarterback 287 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:45.559 and that just happens to be the sexy topic for people. 288 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:49.480 And I get the apathy and the frustration from fans, 289 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:52.440 but at the end of the day, that's what they 290 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:54.080 pay attention to more than anything. 291 00:13:55.960 --> 00:13:58.559 Yeah, yeah, no, well said, all right, So let's move 292 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:00.960 over to where we find ourselves now. I was Arizona 293 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:03.799 rolled in a rice Cycles last Saturday and Rocks and 294 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:05.960 you've been a rice Cycles, You've called game of rice Cycles. 295 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:07.519 And I can tell you as. 296 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:10.080 Somebody who's been going to games there since the eighties, 297 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:12.120 went to school there in the nineties, and has been 298 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:15.039 covering them as a medium member for basically two decades 299 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:17.799 in the market, that was as surreal of a night 300 00:14:17.879 --> 00:14:19.240 as maybe I've seen in a while. 301 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:22.000 Now. It's been a little bit misconstrued that I'm knocking 302 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:22.840 on fans. I'm not. 303 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:26.799 Ultimately, you need good football to cheer for, but Arizona 304 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:28.960 beat Utah on the trenches. Coach, we had talked about 305 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.279 that himself on Tuesday, which I did not see coming. 306 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:33.600 Noah Flafiita is awesome when you see him up close, 307 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:36.639 and I just think the fans were left wanting because 308 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:39.440 there was not a lot of noise. Certainly, the muss 309 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:41.559 is the muss, no matter what, right, But ultimately it 310 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:43.360 was just kind of an odd night. But what do 311 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:45.840 you make of Arizona rolling in town on Saturday and 312 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.120 taking care of Utah relatively easily. 313 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:52.279 They're a good football team and they've got talent, as 314 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:54.360 you talked about it, and it's not just the feedum, 315 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:58.480 but you look at McMillan and you mentioned their offensive 316 00:14:58.480 --> 00:14:59.919 line and defensive line. 317 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:03.039 Play, and that was an angry team that they were 318 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:06.159 getting in that game. And Brent Brennan had his team 319 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:11.039 ready to go as they were coming off sitting around 320 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:13.320 for two weeks after they got it handed to them 321 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:19.120 at Kansas State, and we hadn't really seen Arizona clicking yet, right. 322 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:21.519 They put up sixty one points in their opening game, 323 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:25.159 or however many they scored against New Mexico, then they 324 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:29.480 didn't play well but one against Northern Arizona in week two. 325 00:15:29.799 --> 00:15:31.759 Then they go get a hand to them into Little 326 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:35.519 Apple in Manhattan. So now you're two and one, you're frustrated. 327 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:38.679 You've been sitting on that game of getting pounded by 328 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:41.840 Kansas State for two weeks. You catch a break because 329 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:45.600 Utah's without their quarterback. But Brent had his guys ready 330 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:49.759 to go, and this is, you know, a place that 331 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:52.360 they knew was not going to be easy to come 332 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:55.559 in and win. They had a great game plan, I thought, 333 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:59.279 and they capitalized on some of the ineffectiveness of the 334 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:03.200 Utah offense in that game, because at times Utah had 335 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:08.240 real difficulty moving the football. And Arizona's a good football team. Okay, 336 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:11.639 Utah probably when a full strength is the best team 337 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:14.440 in the Big twelve, but they weren't a full strength 338 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:17.879 and Arizona basically was. And Arizona had the advantage in 339 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:20.879 that regard and they took advantage of it. They were 340 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:23.919 able to run the football against Utah, They were effective 341 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:29.399 in a passing game. They were able to generate some 342 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:34.600 opportunities defensively and really put Wilson off balance and frustrate them. 343 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:36.960 Arizona was the better team on that night. Do I 344 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:40.080 think Arizona's a better football team overall? Probably not, But 345 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:42.159 they were on that night, and they took advantage of 346 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:42.720 the situation. 347 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:45.879 All right, Roxley, last thing before I saw you lose. 348 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:46.799 And I'm doing this for. 349 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:51.840 My producer, who is a lifelong suffering Mets fan, and 350 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:54.120 I told him, don't do the Mets thing. I mean, 351 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:56.000 I'm a Yankee fan, I'm a Northeast boy, and I 352 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:58.799 know several Met fans. I'm like, don't do the Met thing. Okay, 353 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:01.080 don't do the Met thing where you get excited then 354 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:03.480 they let you down. But I gotta say, what a moment. 355 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:06.480 You know, Alonzo who's struggled for a couple of months. 356 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:07.920 Agoes deep, they win, they advance. 357 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:10.359 Do they have four porter Do they have a puncher's 358 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:11.440 chance against the Phillies? 359 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:14.200 I think they do. I think there's an advantage of 360 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:17.240 both the Mets and the Padres, for example, have and 361 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:19.480 that's the series all have starting tomorrow night is the 362 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:22.519 Padres and Dodgers down in LA. But when you have 363 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:25.440 a team that's already in playoff mode, and the Mets 364 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:29.000 have really been in playoff mode for a few months now, 365 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:32.960 it's not like, Okay, they just kind of back into 366 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:36.759 the playoffs. They've been having to win baseball games for 367 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:39.160 a while they get off to a bad start and 368 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:43.519 a miraculous run that oddly enough coincided with Grimmiz throwing 369 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:45.839 out a first pitch at City Field, and ever since 370 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:49.799 then the Mets have taken off and last night down 371 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:52.240 to nothing in the Nines and Pete Alonso and all 372 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:55.279 the speculation spence about his future He's going to be 373 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:57.720 a free ation after the year. Does that have bat 374 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:00.440 change the whole dynamic for Pete Alonzo and the Mets 375 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.079 going forward? By how do you let him go? Now? 376 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:07.240 After the biggest moment of his career, he comes up 377 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:08.799 with a home run in the ninth inning of a 378 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.680 winner take all Game three against one of the lights 379 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.960 out closers in the game, and he lifts the Mets 380 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:19.119 into the Division series against the hated rival Phillies. Yeah, 381 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:21.960 they have a puncher's chance, and they're a hot team, 382 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:25.319 and Lindor is an MVP candidate. He's not gonna win 383 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:29.039 it because his name's not Otani. But this is a team. 384 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:32.359 It's hard to beat. And you've had a confident group 385 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:35.400 that's riding a wave of momentum and it's hard to 386 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:37.640 get it restarted. I saw it with the Dodgers last 387 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:39.839 year in the Division Series when they were swept by 388 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:43.039 the Diamondbacks. You've been sitting for a week essentially, they've 389 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:45.799 been playing the Phillies have kind of eased into it. 390 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:48.720 I think the Mets had you up a puncher's canton. 391 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:51.480 To be honest with you, I think the Padres should 392 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:53.920 be the favorite to beat the Dodgers in the other series, 393 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:55.640 even though the Dodgers have the number one seen in 394 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:56.559 the National League. 395 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:59.440 Wow. All right, man, Well you've done it. Now. 396 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:01.640 Porters can do the Met thing even more. And I'm 397 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:03.480 going to deal with a sad producer at some point. 398 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:07.720 All good, apologize, thank you. 399 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:08.920 No, all good, my friend. Hey, I always appreciate the time. 400 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:11.000 It's always a pleasure. Hope you're well with chat soon. 401 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:14.039