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Speaker 1: We have joining us in studio. We have Star and

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Taylor from Pers and Pores. Welcome, Hello, thanks for having us.

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Absolutely absolutely Now, well all right let's start here and

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then you know, you did bring us a couple of

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gift bags, which where we're going to show for the

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video of viewers. But what is person Pores?

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Speaker 2: Person Pores is a cat cafe. There's cat cafes are

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a cafe half and then there's a sally way that

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you go inside and the other half is where you

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get to hang out with all the cats. Oh okay,

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so and they're all adoptable cats. Really yeah, you don't

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want to bring your own cats there?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's interesting. I wondered about that part. Okay, so

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the idea, so, so the cats are adoptable, so it

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kind of gives you a chance to go and almost

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like like you know, in the mall, for example, they

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have what is it, I forget the name of the place,

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but yeah, the pet story there where you can go

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and you know, they have dogs and they have cats

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and whatnot. But but the only way you get to

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actually hang out with the cats is if you go

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inside one of the cubicles or whatever. I don't know

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it's not a cage technically, but but so, but at

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person Port, so you get to actually hang out with

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the cats and it's.

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Speaker 2: A free room, like the cats hang out in that area, okay,

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and they can come sit on your lap, hang out,

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drink a coffee. Yeah, they shouldn't drink the coffee.

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Speaker 1: Probably not, Yeah, I don't know. Can you give cats caffeine?

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You probably don't know. Probably not. No cream? Oh okay, no,

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that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, because I like

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the idea of being able to go into a room

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and you know, maybe they'll come over to you and

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sit on you, you know, because you know, we like

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to think that we choose them, but in truth, they

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choose us, right, you know, cats have a way of

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choosing their their humans. So, oh well, let's do this

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before we go any further. So I'm gonna put the

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camera back on me. So for those of you watching

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it is a radio show first and foremost, but if

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you are watching the video, so, they brought us these

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lovely gift bags. Let's see, he's got the person pors.

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Oh wow, candles mm hmm. Those are nice. So you've

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got so you sell these at person Poors. I assume.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we partnered with Candle Tree soy candle okay, and conquered.

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It's on Main Street and conquered.

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Speaker 1: Oh, very nice.

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Speaker 3: The owner's name is Ross and he's he loves what

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he does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This month our sense are New Hampshire themed and it's

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for maple months. So we got New Hampshire maple syrup.

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We got cedarn balsom for like the White Mountains. Yeah,

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we got white birch for the National the State Tree.

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Speaker 1: Got some citrus perfection sweet orange handcrafted soap. That's very cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So Chrissy at the soapre off Main and conquered New Hampshire.

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She made those two and she's out of all the names.

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She's very creative. She loves what she does.

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Speaker 1: Oh, very cool, very cool. Yeah, thank you for bringing those.

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Oh there's a magnet two looks like for very cool.

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We love all things kitty. We're both Yeah, we we

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love we love cats. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely wonderful. Thank you

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so much. So. So, what's what's the current status of

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person pores in Manchester?

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Speaker 3: So right now we're looking for a building. Okay, it's

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been kind of hard for us because a lot of

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the kind of within our budget isn't like compatible for

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a cafe. Okay, it's not really the cats they're turning

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us down. We thought our number one like issue would

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be people are like, oh, we don't want cats in

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our location, right, but it's just they don't want like

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the the dishwashers set up and all the Oh.

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So if we're trying to find like the perfect

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building for us.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to find the perfect had to do it

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to do it? Are you so, are you committed to

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being in Manchester or are you maybe looking at you know,

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outside of Manchester.

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Speaker 3: Or we really want to do Conquered New Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: Oh no kidding, Okay, yeah, just because it's.

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Speaker 3: The state capitol in their Chamber of Commerce is like awesome. Yeah,

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I don't know. Conquered seems like the location for us,

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and it's closer to us. Okay for her, Manchester would

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be like an hour drive from her house.

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Speaker 1: Oh no kidding, okay, yeah, yeah, gotcha, gotcha. So you're

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looking at Conquered, are you also looking like outside of

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because I just wonder if you know, like maybe outside

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of Conquered around you know, sort of Conquered adjacent. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we just extended our search like two weeks ago. Okay,

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we've been looking for two months and conquered and then

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we're like, hey, we should probably, you know, extend the

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search because slim pickings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, now is is person por is? Is it

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a franchise or what is it? Is it your own thing?

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Speaker 3: It's our own it is Okay. We created our own

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LLC August of last year.

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Speaker 1: Oh excellent, excellent. Yeah yeah. I wasn't sure if it

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was like a like a franchise and you and you

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were buying a location and you just needed somewhere to

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put it or something like that. But so so this

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is you, this is.

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Speaker 3: You started from the ground up.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic. Excellent, No, good for you. No, we

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love talking to entrepreneurs and so what uh whose idea

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was it?

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Speaker 2: It was a mix?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so kind of like what inspired us is we

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both went on vacation in Hawaii. Oddly enough, different times

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we went to a lot okay, and she saw the

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cat cafe. I went on vacation. I saw it too,

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and then randomly, because we worked together, we're like, hey,

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like that would be awesome to do a cat cafe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That was like two years ago and then just randomly

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one day, I like messaged here and I said, we

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gotta do this, Like, yeah, I want to do this.

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I want to wake up every day to be like

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inspired by my work and help like orphaned cats like

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to feel good about us, like this is our time.

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We're almost thirty, Like let's do our own thing.

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Speaker 1: So, so there are other cat cafes that you've like,

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like have you have you traveled around and seen a

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lot of different ones and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen about like ten fifteen okay, and follow

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other cat cafes. Yeah, we're trying to see all of them, honestly, Yeah,

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and make some new ones.

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Speaker 1: Are they all the ones that you've been to? Are?

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Are they? Are they all similar? Or do you see

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variations and business models or I'm really curious, like what

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you know if they all kind of operate in a

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similar fashion or if some of them are unique or yeah.

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Speaker 3: So for the typical, like for the listeners to understand

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what a cat cafe is. For the typical cat cafe,

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patrons come in and they pay a nominal amount to

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go into the cat cafe and into the cat lounge

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where adoptable cats are and the cats are free roaming

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cage free. It allows them to see the cats in

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their natural environment, almost in like a homey experience, so

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that they can learn the cats personalities. And then you

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can get food and beverage and that just helps people

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stay longer and you feel more comfortable. So we're planning

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on picking up like that business model. And a lot

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of people also have a problem with paying the amount

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of money to go into the cat lounge, but honestly

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that money goes towards like rent, the cat care things

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like that. So a lot of people are like, oh,

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why do we have to pay to go see the cats,

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the cats because while they're in our care, we have

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to take care of everything to do with them. We're

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helping the shelters too by helping them be fed the

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cat litter, so it's giving the shelters a break as well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so ideally does does the cafe then sort

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of team up with the shelters and okay, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2: There's also like other types that's more what we're going for,

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like set of wise two separate areas. There are some

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where they just bring the food in and like from

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a commercial kitchen and sell it there and then they

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don't really have like a sitting area and you just

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go hang out with the cats. I went in one

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in Florida that was weird. It was kind of cool though.

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It was literally just a straight up cat room, and

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then they had like a little small area where they

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just major drinks and brought it out to you, so

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you wouldn't even go over in there.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So we kind of wanted to have the cafe

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so we have multiple like revenue streams and can offer

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people food and drink while they're there. We're also going

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to do events there like yoga, trivia and I have

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vandcing there.

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Speaker 1: Cool. You'll have to have the turbocat.

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Speaker 3: That would be pretty sweet.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious too, as you've gone around and you've looked

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at these different cat cafes, have you seen anything that

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where you kind of thought, Wow, they're doing something really

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strange here, that's not something we would do, or I

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don't see how that. I don't see how what they're

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doing is going to work long term. You see anything

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like strange that where you go really, I haven't.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was looking up other ones. There was one

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in Main. I'm not sure if they're still open. It

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was temporary closed. And they have like a dispensary style

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so I was like, oh, that's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's different. Different, that's different.

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Speaker 2: Well, but I don't think they actually have like the

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just like the style of it. It's

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more for cats. Oh okay, but it's in Main, so yeah,

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it's a little different.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. Kind of a weird question. But how

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do you keep the cats from getting out? That's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we will have like a sallly way, which is

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that makes only like one entrance for people to go in.

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Speaker 1: That makes sense.

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Speaker 2: You have to like walk into the sallyway, shut the door,

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and then make sure there's no cats near you at

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the other door.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the TSA.

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Speaker 2: You go in the one door and when that door closes,

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then the other door opens.

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Speaker 3: That makes sense already.

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Speaker 1: That cool. Yeah, yeah, no, that does make sense. How

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many cats ideally would there be on premises at any

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like you must have a there must be like a

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maximum capacity or maybe it depends on the size of

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the space. Ultimately, I don't know, but right like, how

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many is manageable?

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Speaker 3: We're going to plan between ten to fifteen. Okay, yeah,

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more than fifteen might.

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Speaker 2: Be a little too much. Yeah, depending, that's a really

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big space. What else?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all the cats have different personalities too, so that's

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a law to manage. And it comes down to the

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shelters rules too, kind of how we're of created agreement

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with them. Okay, right now, we're kind of in talks

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with Pope, Memorial, SPCA and Conquered and we're kind of

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just trying to figure out how that relationship would look

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like because they've never done anything like this, and obviously

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they're nonprofit, so there's multiple people they got to discuss

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this with. Oh yeah, we got to come to terms

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of how to take care of the cats because ultimately

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it's their cats. We're just fostering them, right, So yeah,

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there's gonna be a lot of training and hands on

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and kind of like we got to create terms that

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Speaker 1: For yeah, both of us, Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

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love cats. If either of you have you done, like

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anything like that, or I'm curious if it like prior

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just love cats? Which is a great reason too, but.

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a hundred cats.

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Speaker 2: And then I went to like my uncle's house. He

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barn cats. YEA, loved it, hung out with them, volunteer

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with animals. Were actually getting ready to start volunteering at

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the Pope Memorial as well. Okay, just mostly out of

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fun because we both love hanging out with animals. Volunteer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not so much experience professionally. Taylor and I don't

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have experience, like professionally dealing with animals, but we've grown

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up around them. We've always loved animals. Growing up, I

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always wanted to be a vet. I don't really know

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what happened with that, you know, you know, life happened

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and I didn't become a vet. Like, you know, this

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is a way to incorporate animals and our dreams, you know,

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Speaker 2: I actually was recently talking about this that cats like purring,

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like the vibration from it actually can help heal bones,

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like even in people. I don't know how much research

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they have them like that part, but it actually helps

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them heal faster and like do better. So I have

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a cat at home that hurt himself and I'm just like, oh,

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I need to get you to PERR. And I was

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like do this. I was like, come on, motivational speaking

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to this cat. He is doing better.

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we talked to about the shelters, like how big of

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a problem is that? I bet it's I bet it's

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a bigger problem than people realize. How many cats end

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up in shelters.

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Speaker 3: Not so much in New Hampshire, New Hampshire really outsources

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it from places like Florida. Florida has like a kitten

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season all year round, Like spring is like the kitten season. Obviously,

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our springtime is very short in New Hampshire. So yeah,

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so they usually take them from kill shelters and places

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, I didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we really want to partner with a place

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that will take them from kill shelters to kind of

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help them get off the euthanasia list.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hm. Oh that's good. Yeah, yeah, I had

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no idea. No, that's interesting. That's interesting. And then what's

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place and you're open and everything, is there a long

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term plan to open, like like do you like thinking,

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you know, five ten years down the road? I mean,

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do you want to have multiple locations?

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Speaker 3: We want a franchise for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, that's great. And do you have investors?

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Speaker 3: Is it no it's just us you're just.

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Speaker 1: Yet not yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure about taking on investors because a

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lot of the times you got to give up a

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percentage of your company, and we kind of want full

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creative control and kind of what we do. Yeah, if

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tough times happen, we can get some angel investors and stuff,

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But as of now, I think Taylor and I just

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want to be like, you know, the leaders of this.

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Speaker 1: And no, that's great, full control.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot easier talking to one person than trying

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to convince a whole group to do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, no, that's interesting. And how about like,

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are your families supportive of this?

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Speaker 3: Very good? Yeah, my family. You know, the last seven

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years I've worked in the state prison, which my family

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was not very happy kidding that I worked there. And

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now that I'm like, oh, now I'm working with cats

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and doing my dream because they've always known I want

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to be a veterinarian work with animals, like that's, you know,

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my personality type. And they're like, good for you for

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finally like, yeah, you know, stretching your wings out and

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doing what you want.

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Speaker 1: No, that's great. Yeah, you worked at the prison at

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the state prison.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I still work at a prison.

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Speaker 1: You do what do you do there?

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Speaker 3: I'm an officer there, no kidding? Oh wow, yeah, so

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different different career field, right.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, you've been there seven years yeah, seven years. Yeah.

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I had a good friend who did that job, who

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I think lasted maybe a year and he just couldn't

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just couldn't hack it. Yeah, because it's you know, yeah,

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it's hard, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not the best place to be in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: I just saying, well, it could be worse. You could

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be on you know, behind bars and the.

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Speaker 3: Exactly. I'm not complaining.

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Speaker 1: How about how about you? Taylor.

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Speaker 2: So I've worked a lot of like cafes, I've worked

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in restaurants.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's good. You have good experience for what you're doing,

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what you're going to be doing.

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Speaker 2: I recently last year just bought a coffeehouse at the

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Deerfield Fair.

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Speaker 3: Oh love it.

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Speaker 2: The guy that I bought it from, he's basically like

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a mentor to me. It was great. We also have

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cats a nursing home that I work at, Okay, and

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like their amazing residents love them. I'll actually like carry

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them around on the floor with me. I'm not supposed

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to have them on my carts. It was like, oh, everybody,

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they're hanging out with me.

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Speaker 3: Taylor and I actually worked there together and that was

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the highlight of her day. We'd go up chairs and

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be like, oh, did you see one of the cat's

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names was Skeeter? Did you see Skeeter today? And we

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just like talk about it. That was like the highlight

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over day.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I'd bring like a laser with me to play

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with them. It was like the best thing in the

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whole world. And then there's another cat there, she's still there,

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name of Saber. She likes to be spun around on

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the floor, so you sit there, you keep peddner, she

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like goes in a circle. I absolutely love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Taylor also has a degree in culinary so this will yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then my family thinks that I'm very much like

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a restaurant type of person. I've worked in hospitality a lot. Yeah,

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like it goes together, but I absolutely am there for

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the animals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because I.

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Speaker 2: Just there's so much fun, Yeah, so much personality.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. What's a misconception that that people have about

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cats that you want to knock down today while you're here.

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Speaker 3: Well, cats are cat cafes. There's two different things. So

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the cats. A lot of people are like, I hate cats,

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and yeah, it seems like a lot like by.

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Speaker 1: The way, you never hear anyone just say oh, I

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don't like cats. Uh. They they'll tell you that I

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hate cats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're so avid about it. Yeah yeah, what your

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cat ever do to you?

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Speaker 1: It's weird, right yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean they all have their different personality types, and

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they're not as like affectionate as like dogs. Well, they're

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not as obedient, they're not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had very oh yeah affectionate cat.

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Speaker 3: Mine will literally like just sleep on my face all night.

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Speaker 1: The cat Jenny and I have is very affectionate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. But it seems like a lot of the

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male population too. I don't know if it's like a

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like a tough guy thing like cats, like you know

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this a little cute, fluffy thing, like I can't show

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my soft side. But like it'd be nice to see

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a lot more males be like, oh I love kitty cats.

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You know, I'll open up because you can see most

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of them if they like them. But they're just trying

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to be like a right hat, right, Like what a

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little frery thing do to you? Right?

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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then cat cafes there's a misconception people people think

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it's going to be dirty, like the cats are separate

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from the food prep the cafe area exactly exactly, and

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like at the same time, it's like do you not

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eat around your cats at home? Too? Like you know, like, yeah,

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it's just an interesting thought. Like we've seen a lot

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of things on social media. People are like that that's

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disgusting things like that. Yeah, it's like, do your research

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on it, and it's will keep it clean, we promise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. If somebody doesn't want to go, nobody's forcing. Yeah,

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just don't come right right exactly.

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Speaker 2: They get forced they can go sit in the cafe

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while everyone hangs out with the cats.

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Speaker 1: Okay, mm hmmm, there you go. There you go. So,

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you know, if people want to want to learn more

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and keep up with what you're doing as you're searching

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for a place and whatnot, or you know, we might

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have listeners who have ideas and suggestions, or maybe they

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just want to help in some way. Where should they

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go online? Where's the best place for people to go

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online to keep up with with this whole project?

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Speaker 2: I would say Facebook and Instagram are like our most popular.

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We're on a lot of social media, okay, but we

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also have like a link tree which has like all

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of our social media on there, and I believe our

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website is on there as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, our website's ww dot person porscatcafe dot com Okay,

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and we have a contact us link and it's pretty straightforward.

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Put your information in and put any comment you want

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and it goes straight to us. We love suggestions. We

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love talking with our customers. Usually like weekly, we get

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people just like rooting for us, like with enthusiasm, So

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that makes us happy. You know, somebody took the time

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another day just to log in and you know give

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us a little pep talk like that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's really cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And we're just very transparent, So follow us on

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social media all the way through all of our collaborations

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with local businesses, all of the steps like even finding

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our real estate agent. We're very very open. I think

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that's important for businesses to be pretty transparent, and like

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we want to build a community with people as well,

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so like yeah, yeah, the more followers, the more conversations

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we can have, like it could be their business too.

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We're very open to like doing the best for our

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customers and the animals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we actually use social media to fire find our

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real estate agent too, like a bunch of people were

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sending us so many oh, which is great. That was

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really helpful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's excellent. That's excellent.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Sarah Lang. You're awesome.

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Speaker 1: Is that? Oh? Very good? Very good? Well listen, I

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thank you both for coming in today. This is this

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is wonderful. We'll have to have you on again in

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the future because once you know, once you've got a place,

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you know, we definitely want to have you back. And

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you know, Jenny and I we both love cats, and

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so we're very uh, we're very encouraged to see what

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you're doing. I know when you're when you're ready and

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you're up and running, and you know, she's excited to go,

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so definitely I want to see how it all turns

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out too. So so good luck to you both, of course, Uh,

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Star and Taylor appreciate you coming in.

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Speaker 3: You thanks for having us all right, you.

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Speaker 1: Got it, And I think we should close out the

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segment with we'll play another Turbook Cat song. This one

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is called My Senior Lady and it's all about his

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his Senior Lady Cat