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Speaker 2: looking forward to the lineup we got this morning as
Speaker 2: always on Friday at six thirty Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. Today, Dave,
Speaker 2: we'll be talking about GROCK four. What is grock for?
Speaker 2: Described as the world's smartest artificial intelligence followed by the
Speaker 2: public trust in artificial intelligence is apparently declining a lot
Speaker 2: of articles out there to give you a basis for
Speaker 2: declining trust in AI. And finally, FaceTime will now be
Speaker 2: sending a warning if it detects nudity. All right, Briga
Speaker 2: McCowan Charge Conversations and he'll be in studio Love with
Speaker 2: him and Brigham in studio talk about energy policy. Charged
Speaker 2: Conversations his podcast. You got to check that one out.
Speaker 2: It's brilliant. He is Hudson Institute. Brigha mccollwin stops in
Speaker 2: to talk about his conference in Europe that he just
Speaker 2: returned from, and what the hell is going on in
Speaker 2: Europe regarding energy policy. It's on an article the other
Speaker 2: day about how Germany has just really cut its throat
Speaker 2: with energy policy. Also, they have a very very very
Speaker 2: big problem with illegal well it's not illegal immigration in Europe.
Speaker 2: They have open borders, but they don't stop anybody from
Speaker 2: coming in. So they're overwhelmed with immigration. And of course
Speaker 2: the more people you have, the more energy you need.
Speaker 2: Same thing we have going on here with our housing problems.
Speaker 2: The more illegal immigrants that came into our country, the
Speaker 2: bigger the strain on the housing market. People got to
Speaker 2: sleep somewhere, driving rents up across the country. So Briga
Speaker 2: mccollin seven oh five will get him for an hour,
Speaker 2: followed by Congressman David Taylor. David Taylor returns talking about
Speaker 2: the big, big, beautiful, big beautiful broad Blood Bill. I
Speaker 2: just really disdain that name, just don't like it. But
Speaker 2: what's in it that's good? A lot of people complaining
Speaker 2: about what's in it that's bad, or at least that
Speaker 2: they perceive to be bad. David Taylor will talk about
Speaker 2: what's in the bill that's really good, followed by Jack
Speaker 2: wins Or the return of Jack wins Or, editor in
Speaker 2: chief of the Ion Press Network. Veto overrides on budget.
Speaker 2: That's what we just talked about the other day, Americans
Speaker 2: for Prosperity at Donovan and Neil talking about their efforts
Speaker 2: and the return of our elected officials to talk about
Speaker 2: overriding Governor de Wines Veto of the property tax relief provisions.
Speaker 2: Know why he had a goal going after those. They
Speaker 2: really didn't do a whole lot, but it was a
Speaker 2: baby step in the direction of providing homeowners and property
Speaker 2: uners with some measure of relief against the outrageous increases
Speaker 2: in property taxes. Something has to be done, but Governor
Speaker 2: de Wine wasn't allowing that to happen. So probably be overridden.
Speaker 2: Let's hope they will. Plus, small business owners in Ohio
Speaker 2: are struggling to fill jobs. Jack will talk about that
Speaker 2: and what a shame, and you know, on the heels
Speaker 2: of the big beautiful bill requiring a work requirement. Look,
Speaker 2: apparently small business owners have jobs that need to be filled.
Speaker 2: If you're on the public dole. And you're a working
Speaker 2: age individual without children, young children anyway, and you are capable.
Speaker 2: You are not disabled, you're not a mom with babies
Speaker 2: or anything like that. Why aren't you participating? Look twenty hours,
Speaker 2: well maybe career development, twenty hours of community service, whatever.
Speaker 2: Get out there and start participating. That's the point of it.
Speaker 2: You're getting other people out here in the tax paying
Speaker 2: world to feed, clothes, shelter and house you. If you're
Speaker 2: in you fall within a category where you are otherwise
Speaker 2: just objectively capable of working. Shouldn't you at least lift
Speaker 2: a finger to move in that direction? That's the point.
Speaker 2: And the social welfare safety net was usually designed to
Speaker 2: provide you with a leg up during hard and difficult
Speaker 2: times in order to get you off of the social
Speaker 2: welfare safety net temporary as temporary as it can be.
Speaker 2: It's there for you in times of trouble. And then
Speaker 2: you get out of trouble and here we are offering
Speaker 2: you all kinds of opportunities to get you out of
Speaker 2: that kind of trouble. There's job training and programs out there.
Speaker 2: There's a multitude of social services out there to help
Speaker 2: you achieve the goal of independence or at least moving
Speaker 2: toward that direction. And this is not a period of
Speaker 2: time in our economy where there are no jobs out there.
Speaker 2: There are jobs, so the timing couldn't be better for
Speaker 2: the wark obligation from my perspective, and most notably, I
Speaker 2: will emphasize an underscore as I do all the time, trades,
Speaker 2: Lord Almighty, there's so many opportunities in the trades. So
Speaker 2: there's your lineup for this morning. Pause as they take
Speaker 2: a quick drink of coffee to try to wake me up.
Speaker 2: Five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty eight hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty two to three talk pound five fifty on AT
Speaker 2: and T Funds. I'm not quite sure where to start
Speaker 2: this morning, but let's start locally, since you know, we
Speaker 2: had a week that was dominated by all the crime
Speaker 2: in the in the greater Cincinnati area, most notably in
Speaker 2: downtown Cincinnati. Of course, on the heels of the death
Speaker 2: of Patrick Herringer, Sarah Herringer is still outspoken about the
Speaker 2: city stepping up to the playton doing something to protect
Speaker 2: the citizenry from the violence that is going on in
Speaker 2: the streets, and so she had a word or two
Speaker 2: to say on the heels of the public safety meeting
Speaker 2: that the mayor and police Chief Thiji and the city
Speaker 2: manager held the other day, claiming that crime is actually down.
Speaker 2: Sarah disagrees with that, and she issued yet another public
Speaker 2: statement along those lines. But let me start with this
Speaker 2: one because she addresses it and something that I brought
Speaker 2: up the other day. I'm bringing up all the time.
Speaker 2: You talk with the police, you talk with the mayor,
Speaker 2: old candidate, you talk with the candidates running for city council.
Speaker 2: They all want to address crime. But the problem seems
Speaker 2: to be judges. How do you deal with the judges
Speaker 2: who refuse to move forward with cases against most notably juveniles.
Speaker 2: Juveniles are out there committing all kinds of crimes, quite
Speaker 2: often with firearms, attacking police officers, as we saw with
Speaker 2: the Red, White and Blue ash festival that happened where
Speaker 2: we had all those four hundred or so teenagers running amok,
Speaker 2: shooting fireworks at people, including police officers. Got to be
Speaker 2: held accountable. But as we've learned from the police, when
Speaker 2: you arrest the child for violating curfew, we're committing these
Speaker 2: types of acts. Once you get in front of a judge,
Speaker 2: the judge quite often just dismissed the charge outright, and
Speaker 2: we had that happen just the other day, so we
Speaker 2: had prosecutors charging the Hamilton County Prosecutors. A thirteen year
Speaker 2: old who was arrested at that festival July fourth, this
Speaker 2: after police said he set off fireworks in the crowd.
Speaker 2: Body camera footage shows the red firework going up in
Speaker 2: the air. Multiple police officers ran to the area where
Speaker 2: it came from reports throughout the night of young people
Speaker 2: doing this. Some people thought it was gunfired, some people
Speaker 2: called nine to one one. After the event ended, police
Speaker 2: work to clear Summitt part. Police chased after the team
Speaker 2: who let that firework off. He was running away along
Speaker 2: with several others. Officers took the thirteen year old to
Speaker 2: the ground put in handcuffs. Blue Ash Police reported one
Speaker 2: officer suffered a burn to the leg caused by the firework.
Speaker 2: Of the six people arrested in connection with the disturbance,
Speaker 2: the thirteen year old faced the most serious charges, disorderly
Speaker 2: conduct inducing panic and a felony count of assault on
Speaker 2: a police officer. Showed up before Magistrate Tracy Hill in
Speaker 2: the Hamilton County Juvenile Court. Magistrate Hill did i dismissed
Speaker 2: the assault on a police officer charge and the disorderly
Speaker 2: conduct charge for what she said was lack of probable cause. Now,
Speaker 2: fortunately the prosecutor's officer didn't take it lying down. They
Speaker 2: have filed an objection to that decision. According to the
Speaker 2: Hemmon County prosecutors are with the magistrate determined the probable
Speaker 2: cause was insufficient based off of a review of items
Speaker 2: excuse me, outside the charging document. The state presented a
Speaker 2: validly attested to complaint that satisfies all elements of the
Speaker 2: charge defenses, including assault on the police officer. Probable cause
Speaker 2: at the initial plea is not probable cause to proceed,
Speaker 2: but probable cause to hold. Now, for his part, the
Speaker 2: teen's lawyers said the juvenile court rules dictate the magistrates
Speaker 2: considered the complaint but also accompanying documents. He said that
Speaker 2: documentation did not indicate the intentionality of the act. So
Speaker 2: apparently one of the elements of the charge on the
Speaker 2: assaulting an officer is that you did it with intent
Speaker 2: to assault the officer. These are things that the prosetitution
Speaker 2: is going to have to prove a trial. But if
Speaker 2: you got the evidence, the video footage of the juveniles
Speaker 2: shooting the firework off and maybe the firework hitting the
Speaker 2: police officer intent can be established down the road. And
Speaker 2: that's the argument from the prosecutor's office. So but you
Speaker 2: see right here, this is judicial activism in the sense
Speaker 2: they won't allow it to proceed. So Sarah Herringer writes
Speaker 2: on Facebook just the other day and she addresses this,
Speaker 2: not that specific case, but the problem generally. She wrote,
Speaker 2: today's city leaders stood before canvas Is just two days
Speaker 2: ago and offered a polished narrative. Crime is done. We've
Speaker 2: had a good first week of July. Shootings are down
Speaker 2: seventeen percent year to date. As someone living in the
Speaker 2: intersection of violent crime, public figure and institutional silence, I
Speaker 2: no longer had the luxury of pretending this is acceptable.
Speaker 2: This is what happens when public safety is reduced to
Speaker 2: a press release. Let's correct the record while they celebrate
Speaker 2: one data point, here's what they omitted. Violent crimes up
Speaker 2: eleven to seventeen percent compared to last year. Homicides are
Speaker 2: up one hundred and twenty five percent in the past
Speaker 2: twenty eight days. Over one thousand property crimes recorded in
Speaker 2: the last month two hundred and fifty plus auto thefts
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty five vehicle break INDs and at
Speaker 2: least thirty four stolen firearms that's been widely reported. I
Speaker 2: might interject juvenile suspects responsible for crimes including rape, murder,
Speaker 2: and aggravated assault are routinely charged as miners and released
Speaker 2: back into the public, repeat violent offenders of being returned
Speaker 2: to the streets by judges with no public accountability, and
Speaker 2: not to mention, I no mention of this from the
Speaker 2: city leadership. Most notable omission I might interject as well,
Speaker 2: and all this has occurred within the backdrop of what
Speaker 2: the mayor and police chief described as a good week.
Speaker 2: Let's look at that good week more closely. July first
Speaker 2: through ninth a week of chaos, not progress. July first,
Speaker 2: six people shot, one killed in separate incidents across the
Speaker 2: city before sunrise. Red White and Blue ash. July fourth,
Speaker 2: crowd of four hundred plus juveniles insided panic with fireworks,
Speaker 2: trampling families and children. One officer burned, Four juveniles and
Speaker 2: two adults were arrested for inciting panic and assaulting officers.
Speaker 2: July fourth through seventh, at least three separate shootings accurred,
Speaker 2: including a killing of a fourteen year old Taekwon Jones,
Speaker 2: Alexander and Avondale, and a mass shooting near the banks
Speaker 2: that hospitalized three people. July fifth, four more overnight shootings
Speaker 2: and wanted Hills, Wooden Hills, Westwood and over the Rhine,
Speaker 2: resulting in additional injuries and fatalities. These happened mere hours
Speaker 2: after the new street Crimes task Force was announced. Block
Speaker 2: party blocked by ambulance access that was the one in
Speaker 2: Cliffe and the police showed up. They were assaulted by
Speaker 2: the crowd. Dozens of arrests, hospitalizations, and neighborhood lockdowns, all
Speaker 2: in the span of nine days. This is what leadership
Speaker 2: now defines as progress. My husband wasn't shot. He was
Speaker 2: stabbed to death in our home. He died fighting off
Speaker 2: a man who was attacking me. The man brought a
Speaker 2: ten inch blade and had every up oportunity to be
Speaker 2: stopped before even step footing on our property. He was
Speaker 2: known to law enforcement. He was a wall. He was
Speaker 2: not apprehended. Patrick, her husband bled out in our hallway
Speaker 2: because the system, the same one now asking for applause,
Speaker 2: did nothing. He died a hero. The system died a coward.
Speaker 2: Where is the pressure on judges, she asks City leadership
Speaker 2: is quick to promote drones, task force and disruption tactics,
Speaker 2: but there's no mention of the judges responsible for returning
Speaker 2: violent offenders to the street. There is no public accountability
Speaker 2: when juveniles with extensive records are released after committing crimes
Speaker 2: that irreversibly damage families. Why are city leaders silent about
Speaker 2: the judiciary? Why is there no outrage when justice fails
Speaker 2: at the point of release. Why isn't the same intensity
Speaker 2: used to confront the revolving door of court appointed violence
Speaker 2: or court approved violence. Because it's easier to manage perception
Speaker 2: than it is to confront power. They've reduced public safety
Speaker 2: to fit a headline. Public safety is not a single
Speaker 2: statistic or a drone in the sky. It's not a
Speaker 2: photo op with officers or a well let press conference.
Speaker 2: It's whether people feel safe in their homes, at parks,
Speaker 2: at public events, and whether the system protects them before
Speaker 2: something happens, not after. We're watching Now isn't leadership, it's
Speaker 2: crisis management posing as competence. This isn't the first time
Speaker 2: public officials have tried to control the story rather than
Speaker 2: confront the truth. But if we let it happen again,
Speaker 2: It won't just cost public trust, it will cost more lives.
Speaker 2: We're not just fortifying safety, we're fortifying justice. Every time
Speaker 2: city leader's dodge responsibility, another family carries the weight of
Speaker 2: their silence, and we will not carry it quietly. Sarah Herringer,
Speaker 2: she hit the nail on the head on that one,
Speaker 2: didn't she Again, just part of the component of the
Speaker 2: deafening silence from our administration. Five eighteen fifty five care
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Speaker 2: always the case on a Friday, I just found this
Speaker 2: rather bizarre related to really nothing I've been talking about.
Speaker 2: Of course, as we start out this morning. Governor Tim Waltz, Minnesota,
Speaker 2: you remember him, don't you come. It's widely reported he
Speaker 2: spent four hundred and thirty thousand dollars in state taxpayer
Speaker 2: money to prepare for a House congressional hearing probe into
Speaker 2: the governor's sanctuary city policies simple questions on sanctuary city right.
Speaker 2: According to the Star Tribune in Minnesota, they got documents
Speaker 2: showing that Walt's office can contracted with some law firm
Speaker 2: named cairned el Grades, described as high profile to prepare
Speaker 2: for the governor's hearing in front of the House Oversight Committee,
Speaker 2: which dealt with questions about his another Blue state governor's
Speaker 2: sanctuary city policies, simple enough right. In one month May,
Speaker 2: Waltz incurred legal fees of about two hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: two thousand dollars, and as they analyze that that works
Speaker 2: out to a rate of about five hundred and sixteen
Speaker 2: dollars per legal hour, worked of the illustration of how
Speaker 2: crazy it is to retain outside council. According to the
Speaker 2: report Cano Gates, this law firm worked with Waltz's office
Speaker 2: between April tenth and and the day of the June
Speaker 2: twelfth hearing, costing taxpayers a total of four hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars for the preparation work. One of the
Speaker 2: Minnesota GOP report as Jim Nash said, half a million
Speaker 2: dollars of taxpayer money to prepare the governor to go
Speaker 2: to his old stomping grounds, which he was an elected
Speaker 2: officially he's been there, seems exorbitant particulars since the ag
Speaker 2: for the State of Minnesota was in Congress with Waltz
Speaker 2: at the same time, and the two of them certainly
Speaker 2: could have figured out how to do what they were
Speaker 2: needing to do, in other words, just answer questions. One
Speaker 2: other representative, Harry Niska, Tim Walt's been twelve years in Congress.
Speaker 2: He knows that those hearing rooms inside and out, and
Speaker 2: he certainly knows how to conduct himself in that type
Speaker 2: of setting. So what did the governor field that need
Speaker 2: to spend foreign in thirty thousand dollars a taxpayer money
Speaker 2: on private firm to prepare for this hearing? There appears
Speaker 2: to be no legitimate legal interests of the state racking
Speaker 2: up nearly half a million dollars what amount so pr
Speaker 2: consulting as he tries to lay the groundwork for a
Speaker 2: presidential campaign that's going absolutely nowhere. He described as unconscionable
Speaker 2: to make hard working Minnesota taxpayers pay for the governor's
Speaker 2: personal national political aspirations be that as it may, ask
Speaker 2: yourself this question, why would the governor of a state
Speaker 2: who embraces firmly embrace his sanctuary city policies? Why is
Speaker 2: it that he would need help preparing to answer questions?
Speaker 2: Do you know the answer to the question? Maybe you
Speaker 2: don't know the answer, you said, I'm sorry, I don't
Speaker 2: know the answer to the question. I don't recall. Are
Speaker 2: you in favor of sanctuary city policies? Yes or no? Yes,
Speaker 2: I am How difficult is that you gotta spend an
Speaker 2: entire month and almost half a million dollars to help
Speaker 2: anticipate what could or could not be asked and how
Speaker 2: he might answer them. Shouldn't this be information that is
Speaker 2: right at the forefront of his melon, or maybe he's
Speaker 2: trying to hide something.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 2: One of Walt's spokespersons had this to say. They were
Speaker 2: too busy performing for the cameras to even feign interest
Speaker 2: in hearing from Governor Waltz about Minnesota's balanced approach to immigration.
Speaker 2: What's most frustrating is that Tom Emmer and Pete Stauber
Speaker 2: planned this spectacle knowing that it would cost what it
Speaker 2: would cost and when through with it anyway, Well, it
Speaker 2: didn't have to cost Tim Waltz a dime or the
Speaker 2: Minnesota taxpayer's a dime. If Tim waltss goes in and
Speaker 2: answers questions, honestly, why does one need legal preparation for that.
Speaker 2: He's not facing an indictment or some criminal charge. He
Speaker 2: doesn't have to worry about asserting his right to Fifth
Speaker 2: Amendment right to be free of incriminating oneself. It's simple
Speaker 2: questions about sanctuary city policies. Not the first governor who's
Speaker 2: done this. Boston Mayor Michelle wou said earlier this year
Speaker 2: after attending and hearing in the nation's capital, she expected
Speaker 2: to pay about six hundred and fifty thousand dollars to
Speaker 2: the law firm that helped her prepare Denver, the city
Speaker 2: quarter of a million dollars for outside legal counselor earlier
Speaker 2: this year to prepare their mayor Mike Johnson for congressional hearing. Mean,
Speaker 2: just answer the question, Just answer the question. I need
Speaker 2: to sit down with a lawyer to know the answer
Speaker 2: to a question. If I'm being honest to my constituents
Speaker 2: on a regular basis, if I can support my policies
Speaker 2: if I can sport my philosophies. Something tells me he couldn't,
Speaker 2: which is why I needed half a million dollars almost
Speaker 2: of legal assistance. By twenty seven, Ron, I see you there.
Speaker 2: I will be more than happy to take your call.
Speaker 2: Just got to pause for a moment for these brief words.
Speaker 2: It'll be right back. Fifty five KRC the talk station an.
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Speaker 2: enough to hold over the break, Ron, thanks for holding
Speaker 2: Welcome in the Morning show.
Speaker 6: No problem, Sorry I missed Wednesday's lunch. I wish you
Speaker 6: would have said, the place we're going to be at
Speaker 6: is behind such and such building. I would have known
Speaker 6: exactly where.
Speaker 2: Was at the first time I was over there. I
Speaker 2: always look at Google Maps or some other map program
Speaker 2: before I go anywhere, just so I get a bird's
Speaker 2: eye view. So I knew exactly where to turn. But
Speaker 2: that's because I plan ahead. I do have GPS in
Speaker 2: my in my car. You know, the map took me
Speaker 2: exactly where it was, but it was tucked back a
Speaker 2: little bit. Because my advanced planning, I knew that it
Speaker 2: was tucked back a little bit. So apologies, Ron, But
Speaker 2: first time I should.
Speaker 6: Have called my son Brian, because you know, I called
Speaker 6: him Wednesday night and said, where's this place? Always behind
Speaker 6: Arthur's huh?
Speaker 2: No, huh, now on the other side of the street,
Speaker 2: and before you get to Arthur's, or no, it's not
Speaker 2: even close to Arthur's. Arthur's isn't even the same neighborhood anyway.
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, but it was.
Speaker 2: That's all right, Ron, and we'll see it the next one.
Speaker 6: Hopefully, well, hopefully where's it going?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you know I think we're going to be at
Speaker 2: Weedhaman Brewery again.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, okay, okay, yeah, I was selling Joe. You
Speaker 6: talked about the things of Blue Ash. They had the
Speaker 6: same thing as Hubert Heights up here. Some teenagers leading
Speaker 6: off some fireworks and stuff, and apparently somebody threw a
Speaker 6: bunch of a barrel or something and one guy got
Speaker 6: his hand burnt badly and another one got maybe a
Speaker 6: finger blowing off or something. But yeah, what are you
Speaker 6: going to do? You know the parents are right there watching.
Speaker 6: You know you're going to arrest the parents instead of
Speaker 6: the kids. I mean it's you shake your head sometimes.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I as It's one thing to you know, a
Speaker 2: light off fireworks if your quote unquote supervised by your
Speaker 2: elders and have their tasted permission for you to do.
Speaker 2: It's another one to gather in a gang of four
Speaker 2: hundred and run them up in a public festival and
Speaker 2: put other people in danger by firing off fireworks at
Speaker 2: them and police officers. I think it's a huge difference
Speaker 2: between the two. Just my thought, Tom, Welcome to the
Speaker 2: Morning Show, Happy Friday, to you friend.
Speaker 7: Oh, good morning. You were talking about something going on
Speaker 7: in Minnesota. You mentioned the GOP REP. I didn't realize
Speaker 7: that the GOP had reps in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Actually, hey, they even have them in California. Tom, there
Speaker 2: are some out there.
Speaker 7: I know, Yez, don't ruin the joke.
Speaker 2: It's not the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's for sure. It was the last time we
Speaker 7: had a Republican on city council. Then a minute, hasn't
Speaker 7: it a couple of It's that's mess up there. I've
Speaker 7: been to Minneapolis a couple of times, and you know,
Speaker 7: you go to a city and you feel like you've
Speaker 7: never been there before. You're like, you know, you're in
Speaker 7: a different place and you don't recognize the buildings, in
Speaker 7: the lay out of the land and all that. You know,
Speaker 7: it takes. You know, the first time I went to Vegas,
Speaker 7: it was you know, overwhelming and all that. But after
Speaker 7: a couple of times, you know, Okay, I know where
Speaker 7: I'm going at least you know, this is Minneapolis just
Speaker 7: has a whole different feel to it. And I don't
Speaker 7: know if it's because of the the area that I
Speaker 7: was at or whatever, but I mean it is it
Speaker 7: is strange up there. I don't I don't know what's
Speaker 7: going on. And I know I hear about all the
Speaker 7: politics and not just at the state level, but the
Speaker 7: city level. And here in Minneapolis, it's it's weird and
Speaker 7: and and I know, I know it has a lot
Speaker 7: to do with with who's running the show up there,
Speaker 7: based on the policies that I'm hearing coming out of there.
Speaker 7: And and you know, we in Cincinnati, we're not too
Speaker 7: far behind, uh unfortunately, And it's it's scary, and we gotta,
Speaker 7: we got to take this stuff seriously because there people
Speaker 7: are literally trying to change our country into another country.
Speaker 7: They don't like our our freedom that we have, and
Speaker 7: they don't like the way we allow our citizens while
Speaker 7: under the rule of law you have the freedom to
Speaker 7: do things and and behave a certain way, and and
Speaker 7: women can do things and have a have a voice.
Speaker 7: So they don't like that. They don't want that going on,
Speaker 7: you know, and it's crazy. We got we gotta be
Speaker 7: careful and make sure that doesn't happen. And really, beyond me,
Speaker 7: I keep saying it, the only way to make sure
Speaker 7: I've done happen is don't vote Democrat. Have a great weekend.
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Speaker 2: Good morning to you all right, looking like a typical
Speaker 2: Friday morning stack and stupid. Although we're not starting in Florida,
Speaker 2: we do have a stack filled with bunch of naked
Speaker 2: people doing stupid stuff. So let's start in Halle County, Georgia,
Speaker 2: where a Buford man facing charges FWCA he stripped naked
Speaker 2: and knocked another man out using a freezer. Happened at
Speaker 2: Lake Lanier. Forty two year old Logan Nicholas Young arrested
Speaker 2: at his houseboat. Officials with the Hall County Sheriff's Office
Speaker 2: say the incident happened at a boat slip and Landier
Speaker 2: Islands Parkway on July Sex that night of us get
Speaker 2: to say, Young, fifty nine year old and a fifty
Speaker 2: nine year old victim, as well as two women, were
Speaker 2: on the victim's boat. Some point, Young reportedly took off
Speaker 2: all of his clothes in front of the other three people,
Speaker 2: leading to an argument in which officials say he punched
Speaker 2: the man in the chest and then left the vessel.
Speaker 2: Victim and the two women thought that Young had gone
Speaker 2: to his own boat, so they tried to leave the dock,
Speaker 2: and that's when Young allegedly threw a deep freezer at
Speaker 2: the man, hitting him in the head and knocking him
Speaker 2: unconscious and into the lake. Fortunately, the man was able
Speaker 2: to get back onto shore. Official see he had a
Speaker 2: large laceration on his head, but did refuse treatment, and
Speaker 2: deputies went to Young's house boat to speak with him.
Speaker 2: They say he silenced his phone, turned off his boat lights,
Speaker 2: and hours later the deputies obtained at a restaurant and
Speaker 2: found Young hiding under a bed in the boat. Isn't
Speaker 2: hiding on a boat sort of an exercise of futility.
Speaker 2: Not a whole lot of surface area there to cover,
Speaker 2: not a whole lot of places you could possibly hide anyway,
Speaker 2: it's doing it. Yeah, things because they're idiots. Booked into
Speaker 2: the Hall County Jail, released the following afternoon after posting
Speaker 2: a bond of more than thirteen thousand dollars, facing charges
Speaker 2: simple battery, battery, public indecency in three counts of obstruction
Speaker 2: of an officer, all misdemeanors, and no explanation as to
Speaker 2: why he felt compelled to strip naked in front of
Speaker 2: those fellow voters. Now we go to Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
Speaker 2: As a tradition, aymen brother residents of a Fort Lauderdale
Speaker 2: home and had to call police after a naked guy
Speaker 2: went for a swim in their pool and then refused
Speaker 2: to get out. Fort Lauderdale police responded to the residents
Speaker 2: on Tenth Avenue after the homeowner said the man appeared
Speaker 2: in the pool in his birthday suit and refused to leave.
Speaker 2: Officers forced to pull the naked guy out of the pool.
Speaker 2: Javier Caverro, I guess the homeowner. It was like a
Speaker 2: police surrounding him. He was right in the middle of
Speaker 2: the pool, acting weird as a tradition, oh honor. Cavero said.
Speaker 2: The man did get out momentarily before jumping back in.
Speaker 2: He said the naked guy even splashed water at the officers.
Speaker 2: He was throwing water at them. I mean, the police
Speaker 2: were very patient. Why are you doing that? Officers first tries,
Speaker 2: we may find out, first tried to speak with a
Speaker 2: guy to convince him to leave the pool, and then
Speaker 2: even offered him a soda. At one point, following some
Speaker 2: failed attempts to convince him out of the pool on
Speaker 2: his own, officers grabbed him and pulled him out. According
Speaker 2: to Cavero, they were waiting him out because, you know,
Speaker 2: they didn't want to pursue him. They couldn't taze him
Speaker 2: he's in the pool already and spring him with mace.
Speaker 2: He could have had a bad reaction start drowning, so
Speaker 2: they just waited it out. He said. It took officers
Speaker 2: nearly four hours, along with some improvised attempts to use
Speaker 2: a pool skimmer and a hose to wrangle the guy
Speaker 2: out of the pool. Vara said the officers shared in
Speaker 2: the one of the kind of experiences that I asked
Speaker 2: some police officers if you guys ever encountered someone in
Speaker 2: middle of a pool. They said never, But they finally
Speaker 2: finally got him out of that eight a clock. Once
Speaker 2: he was removed from the pool, authorities took him to
Speaker 2: be medically evaluated. I thought that was going to be
Speaker 2: a conclusion that drugs were indeed a factor, and I'm
Speaker 2: going to go with that. Not normally a gambling kind
Speaker 2: of guy, but I think it's a pretty safe bet.
Speaker 2: More stupid coming up. You can still feel free to
Speaker 2: call and take the calls. But beyond that, it's another
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Speaker 2: Five fifty A Happy Friday to you. I think you
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Speaker 2: fifty on eighteen and t phones back to this deck
Speaker 2: is stupid. Look more naked people, this one naked person
Speaker 2: in Hopkinsville, Kentucky, where a man's been arrested after causing
Speaker 2: a disturbance in a Hopkinsville neighborhood while not wearing any clothes.
Speaker 2: Hopkinsville Police Department arrest report reflects they responded to a
Speaker 2: disturbance seventeen hundred block South Campbell Street three o'clock in
Speaker 2: the morning on July eighth. Officers advised that a naked
Speaker 2: guy was banging on the door of a residents. The suspect,
Speaker 2: thirty three year old Christopher Price, was located with his
Speaker 2: genitals exposed, wearing only socks on his feet, which is
Speaker 2: a funny statement in the reporting. I guess you could
Speaker 2: wear socks elsewhere, Joe was it weren't the Red Hot
Speaker 2: Chili Peppers famous for that?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Anyway, they were on his feet, but that's all he
Speaker 2: had on court the police, what was that, Joe? It
Speaker 2: is a great look. He could have improved on it
Speaker 2: if he had white sox and had sandals. That would
Speaker 2: have been that would have been the ideal look for
Speaker 2: naked guide anyway, Obviously not interested in making a fashion statement.
Speaker 2: A court of the police, suspect was yelling, causing annoyance
Speaker 2: and alarm of the nearby residence.
Speaker 5: At the time.
Speaker 2: The suspect told officers that there were snakes on him.
Speaker 2: You got that one right, also disclosing that he had
Speaker 2: just laughed rehab. He was suspected of being under the influence.
Speaker 3: Of drugs tradition.
Speaker 2: Heymen, brother, facing three charges including public intoxication of a
Speaker 2: controlled substance, disorderly conduct, and of course, indecient exposure. Here,
Speaker 2: I have an idea, why not take this drug?
Speaker 8: Wait?
Speaker 2: What might happen to me? Well, you'll be desirous of
Speaker 2: taking all your clothes off and running amok and banging
Speaker 2: on people's doors in the middle life for literally no reason.
Speaker 2: And you may think you have snakes all over you. Wow,
Speaker 2: that sounds like a fun experience. Here, let me have
Speaker 2: some No one ever walks through the logical process before
Speaker 2: they take drugs, do they? Now go to Georgia, where
Speaker 2: a forty six year old woman was taken into custody
Speaker 2: after a lengthy SWAT stand off at her Powder Or
Speaker 2: Springs home, where witnesses say she appeared nude in a
Speaker 2: window and allegedly assaulted a teenager early in the day.
Speaker 2: According to the Cobb County Police, they showed up at
Speaker 2: the fifty four hunred block of Stirrup Way, got a
Speaker 2: call about a woman identified police as Nicole Simpson, not
Speaker 2: her who had active orange for aggravated assault and Paulding
Speaker 2: County officers later requested assistance from the SWAT you know.
Speaker 2: When she refused to surrender, officers showed up confronted her,
Speaker 2: confirmed her outstanding warrant. She refused to leave the house,
Speaker 2: prompting the use of a flashbang device believed to have
Speaker 2: been deployed through the bathroom window. Witnesses described as neighborhood
Speaker 2: being flooded with police cars. Sixteen year old Nalali aka
Speaker 2: Noni Domingas as she was walking into the neighborhood when
Speaker 2: Simpson began shouting at her from the window. She said
Speaker 2: she started screaming things like oh I voted for Trump,
Speaker 2: adding she was kind of blocking me from going anywhere.
Speaker 2: Diminga says she fled to a friend's home where surveillance
Speaker 2: studio captured Simpson allegedly trying to hit her with a
Speaker 2: rock and slamming a gate on her, leaving marks on
Speaker 2: her arm. According to Minga, she tried continually knocking at
Speaker 2: my friend's door trying to get in. She just would
Speaker 2: not get out of the house, and all she had
Speaker 2: to do was surrender, said the neighbor, and then a
Speaker 2: big boom. The flash bang video shows officers using non
Speaker 2: lethal rounds to subdue Simpson. Witnesses said she finally exited
Speaker 2: the home while still unclothed. One witness said she was
Speaker 2: spy the upstairs windows, sticking up middle fingers. Just naked
Speaker 2: female subject taking into cestdy without injury or significant incident,
Speaker 2: according to the Cobb County Police, taken to the Cobb
Speaker 2: County Jail, expected to face additional charges beyond the original
Speaker 2: aggravated assault warrant, no additional details, and no mention of
Speaker 2: her bizarre behavior or why bizarre way I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: with that one as well. Oh man, how much can
Speaker 2: I comment about the use of illegal drugs? Five and
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Speaker 2: I suspect, although I don't know, it's going to be
Speaker 2: one big, long discussion of cautionary tales of what's going
Speaker 2: on in Europe and why we shouldn't go down that
Speaker 2: stupid path cutting our throats. Congressman David Taylor at eight
Speaker 2: oh five on the Big Beautiful Bill and what things
Speaker 2: are good in the bill. We have identified some of
Speaker 2: the bad things. We can learn a little bit about
Speaker 2: some of the good things. Jack wins Or, editor in
Speaker 2: chief Ohio Press Network, returns to talk about overriding the
Speaker 2: Governor de Wines Vetos in the budget, which Donovan and
Speaker 2: Neil from Americans for Prosperity talked about earlier this week.
Speaker 2: You can podcast that at fifty five Carose dot com
Speaker 2: also talking about how small business owners in Ohio are
Speaker 2: struggling to fill jobs. And as I pointed out in
Speaker 2: the last hour, thinking in advance of the conversation with Jack,
Speaker 2: I mean a good timing. We got a new work
Speaker 2: requirement for able bodied adults that have to work twenty
Speaker 2: hours a week, or community service twenty hours a week,
Speaker 2: business training, education training, something that moves you away from
Speaker 2: the idea of being hooked up to the Biblical court
Speaker 2: of government, freedom, liberty, self determination, all these beautiful concepts
Speaker 2: that made America great. Well join in the fund. I
Speaker 2: hate that it takes government to impose a twenty hour
Speaker 2: a week obligation on folks who are receiving public assistance.
Speaker 2: But if you can work, why not take advantage of
Speaker 2: your abilities, hone those skills and put them to your
Speaker 2: own interest, in their own advantage. So that'll be with
Speaker 2: Jack Windsor at eight thirty five one three, seven four
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Speaker 2: about the judge placing the block on birthright citizenship order.
Speaker 2: But you heard about that top of the Hour news. Fundamentally,
Speaker 2: I know the Supreme Court is paired back District Court's
Speaker 2: ability to issue nationwide injunctions. They did carve out a
Speaker 2: very critical important step there, though, and that is class certification.
Speaker 2: You have a class action lawsuit and it covers people
Speaker 2: all over the United States, then you can qual to
Speaker 2: have perhaps a nationwide injunction once you certified a class.
Speaker 2: And in this particular case, the judge certified a class
Speaker 2: for all those impacted, with plaintiffs being a pregnant woman
Speaker 2: who gave birth in April and the father of a
Speaker 2: baby born in March, representing people in similarly situated circumstances.
Speaker 2: So I honestly think that probably will pass muster in
Speaker 2: terms of the class certification, but there are legal challenges
Speaker 2: that can be made to that. But moving away from that,
Speaker 2: there was an opinion piece out of Oklahoma, and I
Speaker 2: don't need to dive on into it, but Oklahoma has
Speaker 2: just ended woke in doctrination as students. Oklahoma State Department
Speaker 2: of Education, apparently working with peger U, they developed an
Speaker 2: assessment for teachers that are relocating from states that I
Speaker 2: guess have progressive education policies. So you got a California
Speaker 2: teacher coming into the state of Oklahoma and wanting to
Speaker 2: teach there. This applies to them. The new assessment of
Speaker 2: aighwates these new educators on three specific topics. Knowledge of
Speaker 2: the US Constitution, understanding of American exceptionalism, and a grasp
Speaker 2: of fundamental biological differences between boys and girls. So we're
Speaker 2: going to quiz you, how are you how do you
Speaker 2: feel about the following subject matters? They just basic messages
Speaker 2: or Oklahoma schools are not going to be pushing a
Speaker 2: woke agenda like California, New York That according to the superintendent. Superintendent. Now,
Speaker 2: the reason I bring this up is because what was
Speaker 2: revealed in the reporting on this. Just this week, the
Speaker 2: largest teachers union in the nation, National Education Association, held
Speaker 2: its annual convention. These are the teachers unions we talk
Speaker 2: about all the time. What are they all about? Well, specifically,
Speaker 2: business item included on their agenda quote to defend against
Speaker 2: President Donald Trump's in race of fascism by using the
Speaker 2: term fascism in any a material. So you're going to
Speaker 2: start seeing this rolled out. The ANYA stuff is going
Speaker 2: to be talking about fascism fascism, which is a sorry
Speaker 2: state of the members of the National Education Association that
Speaker 2: they don't have a firm, clear understanding what the definition
Speaker 2: of fascism is. Just by saying Trump's a fascists doesn't
Speaker 2: make it definitionally accurate. You morons, read the definition of fascism,
Speaker 2: thank you very much, and then decide who's more of
Speaker 2: a fascist, the socialists who want to run our country
Speaker 2: and how to and dictate the terms and conditions of
Speaker 2: your life. What car you can drive, what dishwasher you
Speaker 2: can buy, what refrigerator you can own, on and on
Speaker 2: and on and on and on. That's dictatorial, top down management,
Speaker 2: micromanagement of our lives, including the micromanagement of many businesses
Speaker 2: every single day. There's your problem, folks, State control of
Speaker 2: the means of production, fascism. That's not what the Trump
Speaker 2: administration is all about. Look, they're trying to eradicate multiple
Speaker 2: rules and regulations. They're getting rid of a giant bureaucracy.
Speaker 2: They're getting rid of fraud, waste, and abuse in government.
Speaker 2: This is not what fascists do. But nonetheless they're going
Speaker 2: to be in their materials. Any a is going to
Speaker 2: continue to refer as Trump as a fascist fine, just
Speaker 2: setting you up for an opportunity to make fun of
Speaker 2: them and their ignorance. Also to quote, oppose any move
Speaker 2: to eliminate the US Department of Education as an illegal,
Speaker 2: anti democratic, and racist attempt to destroy public education and
Speaker 2: privatize the interests of billionaires, or perhaps to prevent woke
Speaker 2: ideology from being shoved down the throats of our young people.
Speaker 2: To defend birthrights, citizenship, and oppose the attempt to revert
Speaker 2: to pre civil rights movement Jim Crow legal concepts of
Speaker 2: states rights in order to deny citizenship to the children
Speaker 2: of immigrants, and to support student efforts to organize against
Speaker 2: ice raids and deportations. What does that have to do
Speaker 2: with public education, reading, writing, and arithmetic. Nothing. They're engaging
Speaker 2: in political activism. They are telling the National Education Association members,
Speaker 2: the teachers there, who probably are in front of your
Speaker 2: children in the classroom today, to engage in political activism. Now,
Speaker 2: your family may feel differently than the NEA on how
Speaker 2: we should approach illegal immigrants, ice raids, and all these
Speaker 2: other legal concepts or political concepts. You're entitled to have
Speaker 2: your own rights and freedoms along those lines, you're entitled
Speaker 2: to make your own political decisions, and here they are
Speaker 2: using the public education system as a mechanism to indoctrinate
Speaker 2: your children against the policies of the Trump administration, which
Speaker 2: policies were voted by a majority of the people in
Speaker 2: the United States under what we call representative leadership and democracy.
Speaker 2: Here they also committed to sending out a quote know
Speaker 2: your rights close quote documents so teachers can work around
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court ruling allowing parents to opt out their
Speaker 2: children out of gender and doctrination, so depriving you, the parent,
Speaker 2: of a right to know about these things. Know your rights,
Speaker 2: here's how you do a workaround. That's what you want
Speaker 2: the NEA to be focusing on. Also said it would
Speaker 2: hold quote speak up, speak out, close quote LGBTQ plus conferences,
Speaker 2: and it pledged not to quote, use, endorse, or publicize
Speaker 2: any materials from the Anti Defamation League, which is an
Speaker 2: organization founded to fight at my anti semitism. So you
Speaker 2: don't want concepts of anti Semitism to be discussed. You
Speaker 2: don't want to talk about the horrors of anti semitism,
Speaker 2: anti semitism. You don't want to look at the horrors
Speaker 2: of the Nazi regime and the extermination of millions of
Speaker 2: Jewish people, and how that kind of concept still is
Speaker 2: alive and well these days in the anti Israel protest
Speaker 2: going on all across various college campuses and elsewhere in
Speaker 2: this country. No, no, no, we can't have any of that.
Speaker 2: And as the op ed author writes, and I give
Speaker 2: you credit, is there, It's Kelly, It's in the Washington Times,
Speaker 2: sort of ask this rhetorical question, is it any wonder
Speaker 2: why this year's National Assessment of Educational Progress showed that
Speaker 2: seventy percent of eighth graders were below proficient in reading,
Speaker 2: seventy two percent were below proficient in math, Why patriotism
Speaker 2: among Gen z has reached a record low, or why
Speaker 2: forty five percent of Americans age eighteen to twenty four
Speaker 2: agree that socialism is the ideal economic system for the
Speaker 2: United States. Well, if you aren't having an informed debate
Speaker 2: about the well evils of socialism and the deprivation of
Speaker 2: rights that socialism brings about and the economic calamity that
Speaker 2: socialism brings about, you're not going to have children who
Speaker 2: embrace the idea of freedom and liberty and an open,
Speaker 2: free market capitalist system where competition creates better products, goods
Speaker 2: and services. No, we don't want to talk about that.
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Speaker 2: education and announcement, yesterday, Department of Education said it will
Speaker 2: be ending taxpayer subsidization of career, technical and adult education
Speaker 2: programs for illegal immigrants, which under the terms of the
Speaker 2: legislation creating the program that makes these funds available for citizens,
Speaker 2: they're not qualified to receive it in the first instance.
Speaker 2: What happened will the Clint administration happened They reinterpreted the
Speaker 2: law to allow illegal immigrants to access federal funds for
Speaker 2: these education programs in violation of the act, which is
Speaker 2: the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act p RAW.
Speaker 2: Education Department's new interpretive rules now makes it clear that
Speaker 2: illegal immigrants do not have access to pelgrants as well
Speaker 2: as student loans. According to Secretary of Education Secretary or
Speaker 2: Linda McMahon, post secondary education programs funded by the federal
Speaker 2: government should benefit American citizens, not illegal aliens. Under President
Speaker 2: Trump's leadership, hardworking American taxpayers will no longer foot the
Speaker 2: bill for illegal aliments aliens to participate in our career, technical,
Speaker 2: or adult education programs or activities. The Department will ensure
Speaker 2: the taxpayer funds are reserved for citizens and individuals who
Speaker 2: have entered our country through legal means who meet federal
Speaker 2: eligibility criteria. Well, what a great opportunity for all those
Speaker 2: folks now with the work requirement for the getting Medicaid. Look,
Speaker 2: you've got opportunities with this PRWRA program to get education
Speaker 2: opportunities fulfilled, eating your twenty hour per week standards and
Speaker 2: also sending you on the direction of freedom and independence
Speaker 2: that can be brought about only through work. Now, this
Speaker 2: act limits eligibility for federal public benefits to US citizens
Speaker 2: permanent residents in certain categories of what they call qualified aliens.
Speaker 2: But the Clinton administration issued a what they call a
Speaker 2: dear colleague letter this back in nineteen ninety seven that
Speaker 2: exempted this career, technical and adult education programs from the
Speaker 2: eprwroa quote. In doing so, they said it relea is
Speaker 2: Yesterday the Department's interpretation mischaracterized the law by creating artificial
Speaker 2: distinction between federal benefit programs based upon the method of assistance.
Speaker 2: Congress made no such distinctions in this act. Fairly going
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Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 9: Rock four is x slash elon Musk's latest generative AI release,
Speaker 9: and it's caused quite a stir. They had a rollout
Speaker 9: the other night, and so let me just explain to
Speaker 9: people because it's a little different than let's say, like
Speaker 9: a chat, GPT or Claude or Perplexity, other other generative
Speaker 9: AI tools that people may have worked with may be
Speaker 9: familiar with, or even Copilot. Copilot is Microsoft's product. It's
Speaker 9: kind of embedded into all the Microsoft stuff.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 2: Okay, so every company, every major tech company, is coming
Speaker 2: out with its own version of what artificial intelligence is
Speaker 2: and how they're using it, Like if I do it.
Speaker 2: If I do a Google search, the search results always
Speaker 2: with an artificial intelligence generated answer to the question.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so Google has JEM and I as well as
Speaker 9: some other models. We talked about the VO three model
Speaker 9: that makes the videos that are pretty incredible, right, but
Speaker 9: you've got all these different players out there, and Grock.
Speaker 9: While you can download it as an app, it's mostly
Speaker 9: embedded in X right. I'm looking at X right now
Speaker 9: and down the left hand menu that lets you sort
Speaker 9: of navigate around on the platform. And just as a
Speaker 9: reminder for people, X is the former Twitter. There is
Speaker 9: an option now called Supergrock.
Speaker 5: It used to just be.
Speaker 9: Grock, and grock is a word that came from a
Speaker 9: Robert heinleine. Now it means to deeply understand. This is
Speaker 9: a typical musk nerd type thing right in fact that
Speaker 9: you know, if you're a nerdy science ficed fan like me,
Speaker 9: I'm a huge Hindhline fan, you know, they use the
Speaker 9: word like to deeply.
Speaker 5: Understand something like I grock it right.
Speaker 9: Okay, so they just upgraded the model to rock four
Speaker 9: point zero, and now again you see this. I think
Speaker 9: it's funny super grock and I can tell you. You
Speaker 9: know I work with these things a fair amount, and
Speaker 9: you know they still have a lot of problems. There's
Speaker 9: so much hype around this, Brian, including this roll out here.
Speaker 9: You know, it's caused a lot of news cycles because
Speaker 9: many predictions were made and you know, some hyperbole. But
Speaker 9: you know, these things still hallucinate or can fabulate.
Speaker 5: They make things up.
Speaker 9: They will try to convince you something completely made up
Speaker 9: as false. And when I say completely made up, I mean,
Speaker 9: let's be realistic. Everything they do is generate synthetic media rights.
Speaker 9: It's all made up. It's a question of is the
Speaker 9: answer that it gives you to something when you prompt
Speaker 9: it kind of like a search insin query, you interact
Speaker 9: with it by quote prompting, you tell it what you want.
Speaker 9: You know, is it producing something that is accurate and
Speaker 9: correct or is it producing something where it just made
Speaker 9: something up. I know we've talked in the past about
Speaker 9: lawyers using these yeah, and it just literally refers to
Speaker 9: cases that don't exist.
Speaker 2: You are an idiot lawyer if you do not go
Speaker 2: through and evaluate each and every case generated by artificial
Speaker 2: intelligence to find out if it's real or not, because
Speaker 2: apparently it makes stuff up. Whole cloth all the time.
Speaker 2: And if it just finds out about it, which they will,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get sanctioned, you gonna be held in contempt
Speaker 2: or fined or otherwise held accountable. Maybe you end up
Speaker 2: in the front of the Supreme Court on a charge
Speaker 2: of malpractice.
Speaker 1: God Almighty, Yeah, So, Brian, I.
Speaker 9: Encourage everyone to do what you just said, regardless of
Speaker 9: whatever field they're in. You know, if you don't know
Speaker 9: anything about something, you know these tools can be a
Speaker 9: great way to learn about it quickly, understand you might
Speaker 9: not be getting correct information, use multiple sources at things.
Speaker 9: But if you're going to try to use this to
Speaker 9: produce content that you intend to repurpose for another thing,
Speaker 9: and you don't vet what it puts out, that's that's it's.
Speaker 5: Going to bite you.
Speaker 1: An answered yes it will.
Speaker 9: But I encourage people you should try these tools out,
Speaker 9: see what they can do. Understand what they're good at
Speaker 9: and what they're not good at, because when you do
Speaker 9: understand what they're good at, it can be an incredible
Speaker 9: productivity enhancer. But there was there was a lot of
Speaker 9: claims made. A couple for example, xai is claiming groc
Speaker 9: as the new top scoring model on Humanity's Last exam,
Speaker 9: a collection of very advanced problems, as well as other
Speaker 9: yardsticks of progress.
Speaker 5: There are two versions.
Speaker 9: There's the public version, then there's like I guess, an
Speaker 9: extra powerful version you can pay extra for. It's quite expensive,
Speaker 9: three hundred dollars a month. You know, it did do
Speaker 9: some like as we've discussed, these things are not perfect
Speaker 9: that they say in this particular article, it faltered when
Speaker 9: asked to whip up a quote opera about a diet coke,
Speaker 9: delivering what sounded more like a sing song Shakespeare monologue instead.
Speaker 9: But then some of the other quick claims here if
Speaker 9: we were out of time, GROC is smarter than all
Speaker 9: graduate students and all disciplines. Simultaneously, Musk first declared a
Speaker 9: few minutes later he said GROC is postgraduate PhD level
Speaker 9: and everything, and then later also said better than PhD level.
Speaker 9: So again, this just rolled out this week. I honestly
Speaker 9: have not done much with it. I like Rock personally
Speaker 9: compared to the other platforms that are out there. If
Speaker 9: I'm going to use one of these for something, I'll
Speaker 9: typically use Rock. I tend to like its answers better,
Speaker 9: and it also tends to add if you ask it
Speaker 9: to more humor to things, which isn't always appropriate obviously,
Speaker 9: but yeah, it's a lot of very major claims were made,
Speaker 9: you know, on the test too, and I forget what
Speaker 9: it's called. This is a different test than the touring test,
Speaker 9: which is trying to tell you if something is AI
Speaker 9: or not. There's this other test that you know is
Speaker 9: supposedly going to be able to determine if something as
Speaker 9: artificial general intelligence. So general artificial general intelligence is the
Speaker 9: idea that it is as capable as a human being
Speaker 9: in any task, which is essentially what he's claiming here, right,
Speaker 9: the HD level and everything. And then there's artificial superintelligence,
Speaker 9: the idea that this would eventually get to a point
Speaker 9: where it's more capable than all human beings put together,
Speaker 9: and at that point all bets are off. I know,
Speaker 9: Brian I mentioned before a book called super Intelligence by
Speaker 9: Nick Bostrom that it's about ten years old, but it
Speaker 9: kind of looks at all the different ways you might
Speaker 9: get there and the pros and cons of that. But
Speaker 9: you know, if this thing is really capable of everything
Speaker 9: that he's saying here, you know, it's a major major
Speaker 9: step forward in this direction, and you know, I'm not
Speaker 9: entirely certain that's good.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 2: Well that's a nice segue to our next topic of conversation.
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Speaker 2: to continue the topic of artificial intelligence real quick here
Speaker 2: before we get to why public trust may be declining
Speaker 2: in AI, and I certainly understand the reasons why are
Speaker 2: we in this shakeout period here with artificial intelligence, for
Speaker 2: each of these powerhouses is endeavoring to become the dominant
Speaker 2: AI player much of the same we went through all
Speaker 2: this with search engines, because there used to be a
Speaker 2: whole lot of search engines back in the day, and
Speaker 2: they've all followed by the wayside in favor of like
Speaker 2: Firefox and Google Chrome and some of the big players.
Speaker 2: So that that's what's going on right now, right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's there's definitely a race to the top, and
Speaker 9: there's also a race against China, you know, and that's
Speaker 9: one of the things that makes this a little concerning
Speaker 9: to me. I fully understand the argument that if this
Speaker 9: is going to bring the promise and possibly the utopia
Speaker 9: or the dystopia that we often hear about with this,
Speaker 9: right because there's people on both sides of this argument,
Speaker 9: predicting everything is going to be great and then predicting
Speaker 9: that you know, we're going to live in some dystopian
Speaker 9: hellscape because of all of this. Right, if you know,
Speaker 9: if we don't get there first to whatever this is,
Speaker 9: and China gets there first, I mean, have you seen
Speaker 9: the rolling.
Speaker 5: Ball robot thing they've got now, Brian, No, I'll send
Speaker 5: that if you haven't.
Speaker 9: Yeah, imagine what looks like a robot out of Star Wars.
Speaker 9: It's kind of like a rolling rubber ball that's armored
Speaker 9: and it's you know, rolling around like surveilling you.
Speaker 5: It's it's real.
Speaker 2: That's creepy. So you're a walk around the corner of
Speaker 2: the Kroger and see one of those robots walking down
Speaker 2: the sliding down the aisle. I have not, yeah they
Speaker 2: have it or or Kroger. It's creepy. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I think it's doing inventory, but it's just as
Speaker 2: it's a robot and it just slowly moves down with
Speaker 2: sensors and things, you know, through the foot traffic, and
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just it's it's a little unsettling
Speaker 2: from my perspective, but.
Speaker 9: I understand kind of like there's surveillance cameras everywhere. I
Speaker 9: think I told you I like to get Krouger and
Speaker 9: wear my make orwell fiction against shirt and as I
Speaker 9: walk under each one of those, seeing myself on the screen,
Speaker 9: I just point to the shirt.
Speaker 5: Anyhoy.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's there's definitely a race on not only between
Speaker 9: these companies to be the king of the hill, but
Speaker 9: between you know, the United States and China in this front.
Speaker 9: It's one of the things that concerns me a little
Speaker 9: bit about this is, you know, are we doing everything
Speaker 9: that we should to create systems that understand humanity's values
Speaker 9: and ethics and that sort of thing, or are we
Speaker 9: moving too fast because of this race against China or
Speaker 9: just too fast in general. And I think that's what
Speaker 9: this Defense won article, you know, they they had is
Speaker 9: declining public trust and as a national security problem. They
Speaker 9: say that, you know, based on various polling, trust in
Speaker 9: AI is going down despite.
Speaker 5: Advances like we just talked about with Rock four.
Speaker 9: And you know, it's an interesting, interesting conundrum because again
Speaker 9: I'm not saying it's the right argument, but I certainly
Speaker 9: understand and my gut tells me, yes, we don't want
Speaker 9: the prevailing model of this to come from our friends
Speaker 9: in the Communist Party of China, the way they treat
Speaker 9: their own citizens and the incredible dystopian Orwellian surveillance they have.
Speaker 2: They're folks under so well a propaganda machine too, like
Speaker 2: TikTok is.
Speaker 9: Yes, yeh. And you know I think part of it too, Bryant.
Speaker 9: So here's some additional stats. And March survey by Edelman
Speaker 9: showed trust and AI dropp from fifty percent thirty five
Speaker 9: percent since twenty n eighteen. Mistrust spans political lines. That
Speaker 9: follows other surveys that have should increasingly cent our public
Speaker 9: centiment towards AI, even as professionals who have incorporated AI
Speaker 9: into their work report higher levels of performance. Again, I
Speaker 9: want to be clear, I'm not suggesting that people don't
Speaker 9: go check this stuff out for themselves just to understand
Speaker 9: where it's at and how it can be useful, because
Speaker 9: it can absolutely be useful. My personal take on it is,
Speaker 9: you know, now, this rock thing, assuming it can really
Speaker 9: do everything they claim, you know, which would definitely make
Speaker 9: it the leader based on what I know about the
Speaker 9: other products. You know, if you can really do all that,
Speaker 9: that's that's pretty advanced, but a lot of this stuff
Speaker 9: still has a lot of problems. We talked about the
Speaker 9: hallucination and the last segment, but I encourage people go
Speaker 9: check it out for yourselves. I think, though, what is
Speaker 9: driving this is it's it's unpredictable where this is all
Speaker 9: potentially going in the long run. You know, if this
Speaker 9: does continue to advance at the same pace that it
Speaker 9: is and it really can do all the things they say,
Speaker 9: it's what you can do, and it eventually gets to
Speaker 9: artificial general intelligence, you know, if you couple that with robots,
Speaker 9: actual you know, aroid type robots, that would potentially well
Speaker 9: I don't I shouldn't say eventually get to the place
Speaker 9: where they have all the same capabilities as human Yeah,
Speaker 9: I'm not sure how that isn't going to impact jobs,
Speaker 9: and I'm not sure what that all means for the future.
Speaker 9: So I do have a lot of concerns about the
Speaker 9: longer term aspects of this, but we'll see.
Speaker 5: Again. People should go out and get that book. Super Intelligence.
Speaker 9: And there's another guy actually a PhD from the University
Speaker 9: of Louisville. I watched an interview with him on Joe Rogan.
Speaker 9: His name is Escaping it's something like, yeah, PULASKI, I'll
Speaker 9: see if I can look it up while we're talking here.
Speaker 9: He he has some very disturbing takes on where all
Speaker 9: of this is headed. I'm not saying he's right, but
Speaker 9: he's a guy that knows what you know. He he
Speaker 9: is much more steeped in this than I am, and
Speaker 9: it's it's worth giving him a listen about what could
Speaker 9: potentially happen. So it's no wonder to me that you
Speaker 9: know people's concerns are rising about.
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Speaker 9: Yes, But before we get too deep into that too
Speaker 9: quick things. If you have Windows updated critical updates came
Speaker 9: out this week and update ads. You know, Brian, We've
Speaker 9: talked about this a million times over the years. You
Speaker 9: should set your devices up. For consumers and a commercial enterprise.
Speaker 9: This is a little different and easy, a little easier
Speaker 9: to do, but set your devices up to update themselves.
Speaker 9: You've got to make sure you're getting these critical updates.
Speaker 9: Whether it's your web browser like Chrome or hopefully at
Speaker 9: more privacy friendly web browser, or your operating system, you
Speaker 9: got to get these updates. The guy I mentioned in
Speaker 9: the last segment, his name is doctor roman im Polsky.
Speaker 9: I hope I'm pronouncing that right again. He's a PhD
Speaker 9: level artificial intelligence researcher at the University of Louisville. He's
Speaker 9: fairly well known in this space. The Rogan interview, which
Speaker 9: I've posted all over.
Speaker 5: My social media.
Speaker 9: You know, folks, I'm constantly sharing information about all this
Speaker 9: tech stuff and cybersecurity stuff in particular. If you want
Speaker 9: to follow me on ex, LinkedIn, Facebook, whatever. But I
Speaker 9: encourage people to go watch that video again. He makes
Speaker 9: some very bold claims. I'm not saying he's right, but
Speaker 9: he knows more about it than me. I'll just leave
Speaker 9: it at that. It's very interesting, a little disturbing. People
Speaker 9: should go watch that and get that book I mentioned,
Speaker 9: and I'll put all of these in my show notes
Speaker 9: and then to get back to the question at hand. So,
Speaker 9: you know, one of the things that Apple has going
Speaker 9: for it, and you know, Apple is way behind in
Speaker 9: the AI space when you talk about all these big
Speaker 9: companies like we've talked about before, they're in this space.
Speaker 9: You know, Microsoft is trying to be a leader. Google's
Speaker 9: trying to be a leader with their Gemini product. You know,
Speaker 9: open ai is still perceived by most as the leader,
Speaker 9: and I think has the most market share. You've got
Speaker 9: Xai out there, from our rock, from Xai slash x.
Speaker 9: So you know there's this battle going on and you
Speaker 9: don't really see Apple in this space much at all.
Speaker 9: But that said, what they're doing here, which I think
Speaker 9: is interesting. Apparently it's been leaked, I shouldn't say leaked.
Speaker 9: It was released in some beta testing software a feature
Speaker 9: that will essentially if you're using FaceTime, and it can
Speaker 9: detect that you are taking your clothes off, give you
Speaker 9: a warning and potentially tell you that you should in
Speaker 9: the call. Now you know some of the questions raised
Speaker 9: by this and one of the things they point out
Speaker 9: in the article, and it goes back to.
Speaker 5: Where I started. Apple generally tends to be more privacy friendly.
Speaker 9: One of the things they're doing, like all of this processing,
Speaker 9: according to the research I did on it only happens
Speaker 9: on your phone.
Speaker 5: Apple does not know this is happening.
Speaker 9: They're not sending your live stream of FaceTime back to
Speaker 9: their service to process. This processing is happening on your phone.
Speaker 9: That's typically how they do things. It's one of the
Speaker 9: reasons why they tend to be more privacy friendly. It's
Speaker 9: not sending everything back to the mothership. They're trying to
Speaker 9: process it locally. But yeah, you will potentially get this
Speaker 9: message and they show a screenshot of it audio and
Speaker 9: video or pause because.
Speaker 5: You may be showing something sensitive.
Speaker 9: If you feel uncomfortable, you should end the call and
Speaker 9: then you have the option to was new audio and
Speaker 9: video or in the call. And you know, I honestly
Speaker 9: Brian as a parent, as someone who is well aware
Speaker 9: of the sextortation problem that you and I have talked
Speaker 9: about on here many times, and that state police have
Speaker 9: warned about, local police have warned about, the FBI, I've
Speaker 9: warned about you know, there are many well documented cases
Speaker 9: where kids, typically young boys, teenage boys, have killed themselves
Speaker 9: because they get extorted through one of these sextortion scams.
Speaker 5: So personally, I think this is a great idea.
Speaker 9: They're not just cutting you off, They're giving you a
Speaker 9: warning and giving you the option to continue again.
Speaker 5: You know, for me as an adult that you and I.
Speaker 9: Both know because we've talked about it multiple times and
Speaker 9: told your listeners just don't do this sort of saying
Speaker 9: on a phone period, and you will have any of
Speaker 9: these problems. But if you're an adult and you're into
Speaker 9: this sort of thing, hey whatever. But I think the
Speaker 9: idea of making a kid at least take a pause
Speaker 9: and think about, wait a minute, is something? Is this?
Speaker 3: Is this good?
Speaker 5: Is this right?
Speaker 9: Should I keep this going as opposed to be essentially,
Speaker 9: you know, persuaded into something by a person that has
Speaker 9: ill intent at heart?
Speaker 5: I think it's a good thing.
Speaker 9: I'm all for this personally, you know, especially to the
Speaker 9: extent that it's not sending this to Apple and it's
Speaker 9: doing the process processing locally, so you know, we'll see
Speaker 9: this is supposed to come out in iOS twenty six.
Speaker 9: They're changing the numbering around to align the operating system
Speaker 9: across all Apple platforms, so you're going to see a
Speaker 9: weird leap in the numbering.
Speaker 5: But this is slated for September, so I guess we'll see.
Speaker 2: Yes, we will, and we'll have you to keep us
Speaker 2: updated on this, like some of the other topics, appreciated.
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Speaker 2: a Friday, extra special Friday, the return of Brigha McGowan
Speaker 2: from the Hudson Institute's also a professor of the University
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Speaker 2: say about energy policy. Brigha McGowan, It is fantastic seeing
Speaker 2: you in studio, my friend. I appreciate your willingness to
Speaker 2: come on in and talk to my listeners of me today.
Speaker 11: Good morning, Brian, thanks for having me in the studio.
Speaker 11: It's an honor to be back here and happy to
Speaker 11: be back in America too.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 2: And that's where I was going, because I understand he
Speaker 2: just came back from a conference in France. It wasn't
Speaker 2: on economics, you say, generally speaking.
Speaker 11: Yeah, generally speaking on economics, and of course we know
Speaker 11: that energy is a key component to economics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, learning about that in Germany where they apparently have
Speaker 2: fallen off the map in terms of production capabilities because
Speaker 2: of the unsteady reality of energy and how outrageously expensive
Speaker 2: they've made it. I don't necessarily want to dive onto
Speaker 2: them first, but we I mean, I said, I kind
Speaker 2: of figured that at the conclusion of this hour together,
Speaker 2: I was going to reach the boiled down proposition or
Speaker 2: conclusion that Europe, in the European Union is a cautionary
Speaker 2: tale for what a roadmap for what we should not
Speaker 2: do here in the United States.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, And you know, I think a lot of us
Speaker 11: think fondly on Europe and we're like, oh, wow, you know,
Speaker 11: they're so advanced in this or that, and you know
Speaker 11: when it comes to energy and frankly more and more
Speaker 11: on general policies. In general, Europe is not the leader,
Speaker 11: they're the laggard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we alway talk about how great our relationship is,
Speaker 2: and yes, they are our allies. We do have defense
Speaker 2: agreements with NATO aligned countries, and we did rebuild them
Speaker 2: in the aftermath of the World War Two. But you know,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like Vietnam. You know, we expected him
Speaker 2: to go full on commie and we lost, you know,
Speaker 2: fifty four plus thousand American men fighting that battle to
Speaker 2: stop the Red Scourge and we didn't. But it really
Speaker 2: is more of a kind of like European nation. We
Speaker 2: trade with them, we exchange with them, we have They
Speaker 2: are i would say more capitalists than communists. So the
Speaker 2: world's turned out to be an interesting thing. But as
Speaker 2: contrast to the Europe, Europe we expected to be this
Speaker 2: great capitalist bastion and free markets and everything like that,
Speaker 2: but they've drifted away from that into this full on socialism.
Speaker 2: They you know, the value add attacks all them edicts
Speaker 2: and mandates. I know you're I know UK is no
Speaker 2: longer in the European Union. But if you want a
Speaker 2: great illustration of how micromanaged people's lives are, watch Clarkson's farm.
Speaker 2: Have you seen that show?
Speaker 11: I have Jeremy Clarkson, And you know, it's, uh, it's funny,
Speaker 11: but it's sad exactly.
Speaker 2: You can't help but laughing. But you know, the the
Speaker 2: just the absolute micro management of literally anything he does
Speaker 2: on his own private property. It's they're just obsessed with it.
Speaker 2: But that's like the European Union. I mean, that's just
Speaker 2: the way they are.
Speaker 1: It is absolutely like the EU.
Speaker 11: And you know what's really sad about the UK is,
Speaker 11: you know, our laws founded on their law of generalities,
Speaker 11: not you know, the Napoleonic Code, very specific the Germans
Speaker 11: very specific you kind of get that, but this has
Speaker 11: even happened in the UK, which, by the way, they
Speaker 11: are very happy to say they have phased out coal,
Speaker 11: and they're less happy to say that they have the
Speaker 11: highest energy prices in all of Europe.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and they go hand in hand. I mean, you
Speaker 2: need inexpensive, reliable, emphasis on reliable energy production. If it
Speaker 2: ain't reliable, the lights are gonna go out, They're gonna
Speaker 2: be rolling blackouts. And that's you run into that when
Speaker 2: you don't have some efficient, affordable supply of energy. Clearly
Speaker 2: stated natural gas and coal are reasonably affordable and readily
Speaker 2: available and provide regular, unstoppable power production. Solar panels, windmills
Speaker 2: do not. And then they always want to exclude nuclear
Speaker 2: from the discussion. I mean, at least France has more
Speaker 2: nuclear plants and they can safely say that, look, we've
Speaker 2: got reliable energy production, but you can't say that in Germany.
Speaker 11: No, you can't say that in Germany. And you know,
Speaker 11: this is what happens when you know people's politics get
Speaker 11: into policy, and Germans have always had an adverse reaction
Speaker 11: to nuclear power. It's been part of the their their
Speaker 11: Green Party which was until recently part of the governing coalition,
Speaker 11: and so the Greens were given you know, the Economic Ministry,
Speaker 11: which includes their climate and energy ministries, and they're like,
Speaker 11: you know, no, we're phasing all this stuff out.
Speaker 1: We're shutting down our nuclear power plants.
Speaker 2: But their mindset is stuck in you know, Cherniobyl era
Speaker 2: or seventies era three Mile Island type mindset where yeah,
Speaker 2: there was some problems, but we don't have that technology anymore.
Speaker 2: We've got modern, safe, efficient, reliable, very little to no
Speaker 2: waste nuclear power production the form of these small modular
Speaker 2: reactors that can literally go anywhere and don't take up
Speaker 2: that much space.
Speaker 11: They don't, and you know, speaking of that, the Trump
Speaker 11: administration is working toward adding four hundred gigawatts of nuclear
Speaker 11: power onto our grid by by mid century. So nuclear power,
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Speaker 11: A convertible and I really thought the chassis was going
Speaker 11: to come off the frame.
Speaker 2: For reason compared to modern cars. Yeah, but that was
Speaker 2: the norm.
Speaker 11: Back then, right, So to your point, a nineteen sixties
Speaker 11: nuclear power plant is not the same thing as a
Speaker 11: brand new power plant.
Speaker 1: The fuel is different.
Speaker 11: You know, nuclear fuel today is only enriched by three
Speaker 11: maybe four percent. It's not like the old stuff, not
Speaker 11: like what the Uranians were producing. No, No sixty plus
Speaker 11: for a peaceful Yeah, yeah, whatever, it's not. And you
Speaker 11: know the way the reactors work today, they're just they're
Speaker 11: just far different. And you know, really America needs to
Speaker 11: build these SMRs. They even have microreactors, and frankly, we
Speaker 11: need to keep building the large ones too. And there's
Speaker 11: a good new advanced gen it's called a Westinghouse design
Speaker 11: reactor that can produce a lot of power.
Speaker 1: So we need all of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and why not. It doesn't produce carbon for those
Speaker 2: people who worried about carbon production, and I think Bringham
Speaker 2: this is illustrative of the reality that they the left,
Speaker 2: the Greens. They don't want inexpensive, abundant energy that creates comfort.
Speaker 2: It it bolsters the middle class, It makes living easier,
Speaker 2: more enjoyable, more comfortable, it creates wealth, and that's all
Speaker 2: the antithesis of what they want.
Speaker 11: It is they all want us to live in a
Speaker 11: communal society and be dependent upon the government and not drive,
Speaker 11: not have our own lifestyle because they are not free,
Speaker 11: open market society, wealth generation people. That's not their stick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because capitalism destroys the planet or whatever. And the
Speaker 2: key to capitalism and wealth and abundance is inexpensive abundant electricity.
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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas set was bringing mcgowal from the Hudson Institute
Speaker 2: Energy Policy expert.
Speaker 1: He is saying he has a.
Speaker 2: Charged Conversations podcast which I recommend you listen to, speaking
Speaker 2: about France. As we exited the segment, Brigham, you let
Speaker 2: me now, let's give France the props for getting sixty
Speaker 2: seven percent of their power from nuclear energy, and that
Speaker 2: is an example of you how you can have secure
Speaker 2: low carbon energy leadership. It's in the European Union. Germany's
Speaker 2: decided it's phasing out it's nuclear plants for reasons completely unknown,
Speaker 2: while it has one of the highest energy prices in
Speaker 2: the entire European Union. France I have gone the other way,
Speaker 2: relying on nuclear power a lots. That's great, use them
Speaker 2: as an example. Have you had any problems with nuclear
Speaker 2: power in France? The answer no, right, no.
Speaker 11: In fact, the only problem you've had is because the
Speaker 11: grids are starting to be interconnected. Is the French are
Speaker 11: complaining because Germans want more and more electricity from France.
Speaker 2: Save me from myself, France.
Speaker 11: So they had that, and then the French had to
Speaker 11: restart Spain after it's bread went down too.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, well, thank god they had the nuclear
Speaker 2: power provide enough that they have extra for everyone else.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to be a Vivek Ramaswami. When he
Speaker 2: was on the program, and I've talked to him several
Speaker 2: times about this, he wants to OHIW to be the
Speaker 2: leader in nuclear power so much so that we can
Speaker 2: actually have an abundance to sell to the idiots in
Speaker 2: the Northeast region who keep going the opposite direction facing
Speaker 2: power outages. So maybe some hopeful the state of Ohio
Speaker 2: here but pivoting over to France as a model while
Speaker 2: they do rely on nuclear power to their success. From
Speaker 2: an economic standpoint, I could not believe what you told
Speaker 2: me before the show started. Let my listeners know this
Speaker 2: fun fact. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I didn't realize
Speaker 2: this fact.
Speaker 11: In France, the media and household income is between twenty
Speaker 11: five and thirty thousand euro that's about twenty eight to
Speaker 11: thirty two thousand dollars after tax, with a poverty rate
Speaker 11: of fourteen percent. Basically that aligns with Mississippi, whose nominal
Speaker 11: GDP per capita is forty one thousand and median household
Speaker 11: incomes fifty four thousand, with a pretty similar poverty rate.
Speaker 2: Well, so the entire country of France and everything that
Speaker 2: they build and produce gives you that standard of living.
Speaker 11: They've they've made it up there. And I'm not knocking Mississippi.
Speaker 11: I've got a kid that goes and goes to Ole,
Speaker 11: miss And you know, it's a great state. But when
Speaker 11: you think of France, right, you think of one of
Speaker 11: the largest countries in Europe, I don't think you think, well, yeah,
Speaker 11: they're about as rich as.
Speaker 1: Mississippi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's it's really really hard to believe.
Speaker 2: So what else did you learn at this conference? What
Speaker 2: was some of the takeaways you got from being.
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, yeah, I mean, well it was a great
Speaker 11: Honestly it was. You know, it's really a thrilled to
Speaker 11: be invited to it. You know, almost nine thousand attendees
Speaker 11: on side one and a half million online views already.
Speaker 14: Wow.
Speaker 11: Yeah, So people do look at this, and the good
Speaker 11: takeaway is people are starting to say, hey, we have
Speaker 11: to sort of become more realistic. In fact, the theme
Speaker 11: was the shock of reality and the literal translation from
Speaker 11: Frenches it offends. It offends me, this this lack of reality.
Speaker 11: But then they immediately go down the rabbit hole of gosh,
Speaker 11: we need more regulations, and if we did more regulations,
Speaker 11: that would make us better and more competitive. And you know,
Speaker 11: I told them that they had it wrong. You need
Speaker 11: less regulation, you need to unleash innovation, and and that
Speaker 11: that never comes from the federal government trying to regulate something.
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. They're not they're not interested in in
Speaker 2: in improving lives or coming up with new ideas. And honestly,
Speaker 2: anytime anytime something new comes out that there's a demand for,
Speaker 2: that becomes popular, the federal government decides or the state
Speaker 2: government's decide, well, we're going to tax that. And why
Speaker 2: is that? Why are you treating that particular category or
Speaker 2: product as outside of the normal product. Well, because it's new,
Speaker 2: that's why.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean vapes come to mind, and I know people
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Speaker 2: But you know, it's an alternative tobacco. Nicotine is not illegal.
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Speaker 2: chewing gum manufacturing company and sell chewing gum. Do you
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Speaker 2: because it's chewing gum?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: But you see it's new.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 11: You have this in Europe And in fact, one of
Speaker 11: the complaints is all energy prices are too high, so
Speaker 11: we will just put a cap on how high energy
Speaker 11: prices can be. I'm like, you guys, are economists do
Speaker 11: you not understand the law of supply and demand.
Speaker 2: Guys, nine thousand economists at this and they come up
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 1: They get up with Yeah, they come a mom Donnie.
Speaker 2: Proposal.
Speaker 11: And then on the opening session there was a gentleman
Speaker 11: from Council of Economic Advisors on the White House who
Speaker 11: was probably a career person, not necessarily a politically appointed person.
Speaker 11: White House has more career people that work there than
Speaker 11: you know, politically appointed people. And a lady on stage
Speaker 11: who's a member of the EU Parliament from France, was
Speaker 11: just going after him for Trump and he's rude and
Speaker 11: obnoxious and this is not how you treat friends. And
Speaker 11: he said, oh, we don't treat friends by having disparate
Speaker 11: trade policies.
Speaker 1: You don't treat.
Speaker 11: Friends by singling out American companies, don't You're not friends
Speaker 11: by And the more he said in a logical fashion,
Speaker 11: the more she emotionally I thought she was going to
Speaker 11: helicopter off the stage back through the roof.
Speaker 2: That's what happens when they're confronted with logic and reason. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the name calling and the broadbrush painting falls apart under
Speaker 2: any thoughtful analysis, and they're left with literally nothing to
Speaker 2: defend their position with so they start screaming and calling names.
Speaker 11: And yes, and actually a couple other French panel members
Speaker 11: chastised her and said, look, you know, the game has changed.
Speaker 11: Trump has done positive things for Europe. We've not been
Speaker 11: paying for our defense for fifty years. And if you
Speaker 11: look at it from America's perspective, they've been guaranteeing European
Speaker 11: security for over one hundred years.
Speaker 2: So and what did it deliver us a whole block
Speaker 2: of basically socialist, micromanaged countries.
Speaker 11: Well, instead of spending money on defense, they've been spending
Speaker 11: it on all their social programs.
Speaker 2: Into the logical argument on that, why would they want
Speaker 2: to be beholden to the United States of America for
Speaker 2: their security?
Speaker 11: Well, I think you know the reality is they felt
Speaker 11: the end of the Soviet Union it was all good.
Speaker 2: I've always used that our moral barometer ended when the
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Speaker 1: It really did.
Speaker 11: But you've got Brian. You have other countries like Poland,
Speaker 11: who since the fall of communism, have seen their economy
Speaker 11: increase ninefold. They're now in the top twenty of all
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Speaker 2: We want to pick ABOUKIRCD talk station. Happy Friday. Brin
Speaker 2: Thomas here with Hudson Institute and Miami University professor Brigham
Speaker 2: McGowan talking energy policy on his return from the Economic
Speaker 2: Summit in Europe. Wildly popular. Nine thousand attendees that are
Speaker 2: economists and other noted notables like Briga McGowan, more than
Speaker 2: a million and a half online viewers so far, three
Speaker 2: hundred journalists showing up. Talk about economic policy, Energy policy included.
Speaker 2: And did the subject of the European Unions and NATO's
Speaker 2: security come up, Because you got this little pesky thing
Speaker 2: called Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and I know they're all
Speaker 2: incensed about it, and they keep looking to us to
Speaker 2: provide Ukraine with more weapons, even though there are a
Speaker 2: very few Ukrainian soldiers left to operate them. Russia continues
Speaker 2: to make advances. It's been a brutal bloodbath for both sides.
Speaker 2: It just looks awful. But since Ukraine is not a
Speaker 2: member of NATO, they're not a part of the European Union,
Speaker 2: they just happen to be sort of right there. Has
Speaker 2: it brought about it? Is there any concern awakening over security?
Speaker 2: Clearly there has been a move in the direction where
Speaker 2: they're going to start defending themselves or at least have
Speaker 2: the ability to defend themselves with this five percent GDP
Speaker 2: allocation for military reasons and security reasons. But what about
Speaker 2: how does this relate to energy policy? You'd think that
Speaker 2: the nord pipeline or nothing. Yeah, the was it? The
Speaker 2: Nord pipeline, Nordstream Nordstream pipeline got blown up at the
Speaker 2: outset of the conflict, Russian energy was shut off and
Speaker 2: depriving the European Union of But then they had to
Speaker 2: do workarounds to continue to get and support Russia's military
Speaker 2: by buying their fuel supply. I mean, it doesn't make
Speaker 2: any sense, you know.
Speaker 11: It really doesn't end for if you go back to
Speaker 11: the Soviet Union days, they were so cash strapped. They
Speaker 11: operated in two different worlds. They had their political military
Speaker 11: world and then they had the hey buy our energy
Speaker 11: and you know, we promise you will never use that
Speaker 11: as an instrument, and they didn't. Putin's not the same guy,
Speaker 11: and he's leveraging everything he can. And again, after the
Speaker 11: end of the Cold War, germany first policy was let's
Speaker 11: talk about renewables, but let's buy as much cheap oil
Speaker 11: and gas from Russia as we can possibly get in
Speaker 11: both Nordstream one and Nordstream two, where German projects, where
Speaker 11: the former Chancellor of Germany, Gearhart Schroeder was actually on
Speaker 11: the Russian board trumpeting all ways stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing to see here.
Speaker 1: Move along, you know.
Speaker 11: So Yeah, and Merkle had this German first policy and
Speaker 11: it completely backfired him because it's the don't keep all
Speaker 11: your eggs in one basket. Diversification of supply is very
Speaker 11: definition of energy security plus affordability.
Speaker 2: Well, look, administration's change. The Trump administration taking a hard
Speaker 2: line on Europe and it's needed to defend itself. He
Speaker 2: didn't do that before. So you have a new president
Speaker 2: in Vladimir Putin, that's not the former Soviet Union's dictator.
Speaker 2: He is using energy as a weapon. You don't have
Speaker 2: to drop a bomb, just slip the energy switch off.
Speaker 7: Ah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know what has surprised me over all.
Speaker 1: This is the naivete in Europe.
Speaker 11: Yeah, these pieces and you know, but you know, Brian,
Speaker 11: their adults, they understand this because part of the joke
Speaker 11: in Europe is, well, a great crisis in the world happens,
Speaker 11: and we Europeans go to the cafe and have a
Speaker 11: latte and complain about it. Meanwhile, we expect you guys
Speaker 11: in Washington, DC to do something about it. It's learned helplessness.
Speaker 11: It's like you're an all kid living in your basement.
Speaker 11: Mom and dad are buying everything.
Speaker 2: For you, exactly. And again we're the ones providing them
Speaker 2: with security. Yeah, I mean, we're the armed forces. We
Speaker 2: are the police department in essence for the European Union,
Speaker 2: and we have been for years and years and years
Speaker 2: and again, I would be in a very I'd be
Speaker 2: extremely unsettled as a European to have that as my reality.
Speaker 2: WHOA what a second, like using energy as a weapon.
Speaker 2: What if the United States wants to flip the switch,
Speaker 2: which is kind of what Donald Trump is sort of
Speaker 2: doing in the sense that he's not providing Ukraine with weapons.
Speaker 2: Well now he is, but you know, and he could
Speaker 2: cut off the European Union in so far as defense
Speaker 2: is concerned.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, And just yesterday Secretary of State Mark or Rubio said, hey, look,
Speaker 11: we're we're trying to deliver more weapons to Ukraine, but
Speaker 11: the Europeans haven't responded by increasing production. And we're looking
Speaker 11: at giving them another patriot missile battery, but we can't
Speaker 11: get to Europeans to offer up their own patriot missile battery.
Speaker 11: Right so it's you know, it's talk but no action,
Speaker 11: no action, action more.
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Speaker 2: your podcast un Charged Conversations with my guests today Brigha
Speaker 2: McGowan and studio talking energy policy on the heels that
Speaker 2: was returned from the Economic Forum in Europe in France,
Speaker 2: where I understand the European Union addition to all these
Speaker 2: other crazy policies want to get rid of air conditioning.
Speaker 2: I understand this is just ninety some odd degrees. And
Speaker 2: they held this conference outside, yeah, out of doors as
Speaker 2: they would say doors.
Speaker 11: And well, you know, it was in the in the
Speaker 11: south of France, in Excellent Provence, which the Provence region
Speaker 11: is well known for its rose and lavender fields, and
Speaker 11: it's it's very French to throw up massive tents and
Speaker 11: in this park we had four different amphitheaters going. But yeah,
Speaker 11: it was it was warm, it was above average, and
Speaker 11: uh they blamed it on climate change, well a few
Speaker 11: people did, and then a couple of days later, the
Speaker 11: mister winds picked up, which was also a normal weather
Speaker 11: phenomenon when the high pressures moved off, and uh we
Speaker 11: got nice cold winds from the Alps sweep down.
Speaker 1: So that's climate change to change. It was really nice.
Speaker 11: But yeah, to your point, and to be fair, you know,
Speaker 11: in most European countries you don't have two parties. You
Speaker 11: have I don't know, six eight ten, and so a
Speaker 11: far left French politician on the green side called for
Speaker 11: the elimination of air conditioning because, uh, you can conserve
Speaker 11: your way to prosperity right by producing less. And that
Speaker 11: was one of the points I made is economic security,
Speaker 11: Uh depends on you having all the stuff you need.
Speaker 11: Energy is part of that. Energy abundance brings prosperity. They
Speaker 11: don't want prosperity, they don't and the energy scarcity equals poverty, folks, exactly,
Speaker 11: It's that straightforward.
Speaker 2: I mean, I suppose, by some twisted circuitous route, if
Speaker 2: you take air conditioning out of the equation and power
Speaker 2: was not being generated for air conditioning, that extra unused
Speaker 2: power that used to go to air conditioning could be
Speaker 2: used to serve the means of production. Unless you could
Speaker 2: become more abundant. Brigham, how about that?
Speaker 11: I guess so, I guess they're leaving aside the fact
Speaker 11: that thousands of elderly in UH in Europe die every year,
Speaker 11: or the lack of from heat, and you're not you're not, well,
Speaker 11: that's true too, So we'll.
Speaker 2: Probably next want to get rid of heat in the
Speaker 2: winter time.
Speaker 1: Possibly.
Speaker 11: But you know, the other thing I figured out is
Speaker 11: in Europe, air conditioning doesn't necessarily mean air cooling. I'm like,
Speaker 11: it's hot in here, and they're like, well, yes, we're
Speaker 11: conditioning the air. We're removing like a dehumidifire, not actually
Speaker 11: cooling anything.
Speaker 2: So the exacerbating factor of the extra moisture will be removed,
Speaker 2: but the temperature will remain the same. It's that's why
Speaker 2: one hundred and ten degrees doesn't feel hot when you're
Speaker 2: in Arizona, because it's it's a dry It's yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, it's a dry heat. And you know, this gets
Speaker 1: back to Brian.
Speaker 11: Look, if if I don't know, pick pick solar power,
Speaker 11: pick wind energy, if it were awesome, if it were inexpensive,
Speaker 11: if it yeah, yeah, you know, uh, no need for subsidies.
Speaker 11: People buy things that they want to buy, right if
Speaker 11: people made what folks want to buy. And I say, well,
Speaker 11: you know, but we just don't know what's good for us.
Speaker 5: So we have to.
Speaker 11: Introduce all of these levers and put your finger on
Speaker 11: the scale and move stuff around. By the way, the
Speaker 11: energy credit, if now's the time to get your solar
Speaker 11: power or your your tesla what do they call that
Speaker 11: the battery backup system? Because that thirty percent tax credit
Speaker 11: that Joe Biden put in is over at the end
Speaker 11: of this year. See your fingers on the scale, right, Yeah, Well,
Speaker 11: you know I had to shirt.
Speaker 2: I had to give to my daughter because it's to
Speaker 2: me the wrong side. Good ideas do not require force
Speaker 2: or coercion, and tax incentives and rebates and things of
Speaker 2: that nature caused people to do something that otherwise would
Speaker 2: not have done. Exactly, you're trying to do this electric
Speaker 2: vehicle in my family's best interest, considering what I need,
Speaker 2: the range and all that these logical things we walk
Speaker 2: through in terms of the selection of a vehicle, and
Speaker 2: then you got, well, it's going to cost me ex
Speaker 2: for this internal combustion engine car, but I can get
Speaker 2: seventy five hundred dollars off if I go that direction
Speaker 2: and get an electric vehicle. You end up buying one
Speaker 2: of those and then struggle with the downside realities of it.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, And you know, just just to be fair to
Speaker 11: you and the listeners, I own a Tesla.
Speaker 1: I've got one.
Speaker 5: I know you did.
Speaker 11: I've had one six years, right, early adopter. It's cool,
Speaker 11: it's fun, it's fast. But recent study just came out
Speaker 11: that said the same three issues that were plaguing people
Speaker 11: wondering whether they wanted to buy an electric car are
Speaker 11: still there. Range, how I'm charging it, and the fact
Speaker 11: that when it's too hot or too cold, you can
Speaker 11: take that battery and discount it by thirty to fifty percent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a huge limitation.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's great for around town. I love my car.
Speaker 11: I've actually driven it Brian across the country. I'll have
Speaker 11: to tell you about that another day.
Speaker 8: But it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't easy.
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Speaker 2: Coming up out of the top of the our news
Speaker 2: Congressman David Taylor, the return of Congressman Taylor to talk
Speaker 2: about the great, big, beautiful Bill and what things are
Speaker 2: good in there. And I know there's a lot of
Speaker 2: good in there, and of course maybe not, of course,
Speaker 2: but if you're just finding out. Jack Windsor, editor in
Speaker 2: chief of the Ohio Press Network, returns at the bottom
Speaker 2: of the hour eight thirty to talk about detail over
Speaker 2: rides in the budget, something we talked about with Donald
Speaker 2: and Neil from Americans for Prosperity earlier in the week.
Speaker 2: He can listen to the podcast fifty five KRC dot
Speaker 2: com plus small business owners in Ohio are struggling to
Speaker 2: fill jobs. Jack will be talking about that as well.
Speaker 2: In the meantime from the Hudson Institute Final Online at
Speaker 2: Hudson dot org. Doing some great work at the Hudson Institute,
Speaker 2: Briga McGowan and studio about his trip to Europe and
Speaker 2: the dysfunction that he witnessed in Europe in terms of
Speaker 2: energy policy, their pursuit of zero carbon emissions. And we
Speaker 2: didn't talk a whole lot about the auto industry, but
Speaker 2: the European Union really really really driving the insanity going
Speaker 2: on in the automobile world with regard to European manufacturers
Speaker 2: moving all the way over and embracing electric technology. I
Speaker 2: know Volkswagen has Audi of course, under the same umbrella,
Speaker 2: Porsches moved a lot over to electric and I even
Speaker 2: have read a bunch of articles they make several different
Speaker 2: electric versions of the cars over portsche But the cutoff
Speaker 2: date for the internal combustion engine, I think as respects
Speaker 2: the case and the Boxer was supposed to be. I
Speaker 2: think this was the last year of internal combustion production,
Speaker 2: going electric next year. But they're going like, well, hold on,
Speaker 2: hold on. The demand isn't there. Maybe this is not
Speaker 2: a road you want to go down. But the only
Speaker 2: reason they're going down that road is because the edicts
Speaker 2: and mandates from the European Union.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very true.
Speaker 11: And I think you know they also resume based on
Speaker 11: Biden policies that we were mirroring. Really he was adopting
Speaker 11: and mirroring what Europe was doing. And we had executives
Speaker 11: from Daimler there, from Volkswagen, as you point out, which
Speaker 11: owns a lot of different brands as well as BMW
Speaker 11: was there. And they're rethinking their strategy because they've admitted
Speaker 11: privately that the sales of evs have dropped. They got
Speaker 11: excited in the beginning, but what they failed to realize
Speaker 11: is this is this early adoption period where a lot
Speaker 11: of people want to try it out, and the age
Speaker 11: of early adoption ended about a year ago. So EV sales,
Speaker 11: even with these incentive has been following fairly flat. And
Speaker 11: you know, Ford Blue is losing their shirt on there
Speaker 11: on their EV side. So I expect to see a
Speaker 11: change of heart I suspect coming up because they're just
Speaker 11: not going to get the market penetration and saturation that
Speaker 11: they want. And again, if you want to drive an EV,
Speaker 11: you got an extra stall in the garage, one around
Speaker 11: town car fine. But these mandates have been overturned. The
Speaker 11: Trump administration has reversed its tailpipe emission rule, which we
Speaker 11: called the the FAV mandate mandate. So that's all been
Speaker 11: been reversed and we're getting back to you know, if
Speaker 11: you build something the consumer wants to purchase and have
Speaker 11: at it.
Speaker 2: It's exactly right. And the other elephant in the room,
Speaker 2: you talk about the European Union, thinking we were going
Speaker 2: to go in that same you know, mindless direction towards
Speaker 2: the full adopt to our adoption of electric and the decarbonization,
Speaker 2: new new administration. Going back to the point, administration change,
Speaker 2: people's attitudes change. They reflect back on maybe this isn't
Speaker 2: a good idea. Look what happened in Europe. Let's not
Speaker 2: go down that road. So we've got rid of the
Speaker 2: EV mandates effectively. Good, they see that. But for me,
Speaker 2: this whole carbon output, climate change alarmism and the restrictions
Speaker 2: and the throat cutting that European and Westernized countries or
Speaker 2: developed countries were going, I guess because of guilt or something,
Speaker 2: they left China and India and the other major polluters
Speaker 2: out of the equation, massive massive polluters. While we struggle
Speaker 2: against this Sissophian challenge to get rid of carbon, they're
Speaker 2: meanwhile building all kinds of brand new coal power plants.
Speaker 11: Well, and this is what concerns me, and our research
Speaker 11: is indicated if you look at this from a purely
Speaker 11: power play right. China has a well documented history of
Speaker 11: entering to a market, dumping a product down a very
Speaker 11: cheap price to destroy the domestic industry, and then they
Speaker 11: take over and they raise their prices back up.
Speaker 1: We've seen it with coal.
Speaker 11: We've seen it with a lot of dipreneurs, which is
Speaker 11: a big concern even if you do want to go
Speaker 11: to this direction. China controls eighty plus percent of the
Speaker 11: entire supply chain for renewables. This is not by accident, folks.
Speaker 11: They were thinking ahead and thinking wheah, these guys want
Speaker 11: to do this.
Speaker 2: And guarantee you they are the biggest influence peddlers on
Speaker 2: the planet in terms of propaganda behind this global climate
Speaker 2: change craft.
Speaker 11: They are one hundred percent. And so if you take
Speaker 11: China and India and put them together and CO two
Speaker 11: is your thing, they're responsible for more than the United
Speaker 11: States and Europe combined. They're responsible for forty percent of
Speaker 11: CO two.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 11: And while we've been talking, they've probably put another coal
Speaker 11: power plant online exactly.
Speaker 2: And they're loving every minute of it. And they're the
Speaker 2: ones stirring the pot. Social media, it's easily accessible from
Speaker 2: the four corners of the world and they're going to
Speaker 2: do that to advance their own best interests, because they
Speaker 2: put their own best interests first, unlike us. Brigha mcawan,
Speaker 2: it has been a pleasure having you in. Next time
Speaker 2: we'll get this story of your cross country trip in
Speaker 2: your tesla. Apparently took a little bit longer than you thought, shocking.
Speaker 2: Absolutely no one Briga McCown will look like and you
Speaker 2: will find you with Charge Communication or Charge Conversations podcast.
Speaker 2: Find you at Hudson dot org. And of course your
Speaker 2: students said Miami University will find you in class when
Speaker 2: classes in session.
Speaker 11: Brian, thanks very much, and you can also find me
Speaker 11: on any of the major social media sites. And yeah,
Speaker 11: love to hear any ideas folks have for our research.
Speaker 2: Wonderful do that. Briga McCown has an open door, folks,
Speaker 2: stick around. Congressman David Taylor after the top of the
Speaker 2: ur news followed by Jack Windsor from the Ohio Press Network,
Speaker 2: It's going to be some good conversation coming up in
Speaker 2: the next hour. News happens fast, stay up to date
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Speaker 1: Not gonna be complicated, It's going to go very fast.
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Speaker 2: If you buy a krc DE talk station, Happy Friday,
Speaker 2: extra special welcome back. It's extra special because we get
Speaker 2: the return of probably representing Ohio's second district Congressman David
Speaker 2: tayl Or. Good to have you back, Dave. That's a
Speaker 2: giant chunk of land, that second district, and we thank
Speaker 2: everyone in the second district for putting you in office.
Speaker 2: It's good to have you back on the morning show.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Brian. It's a doubt the prettiest part of Ohio.
Speaker 8: We're glad to represent it.
Speaker 2: I know you're proud of it, and I will get
Speaker 2: I will let you know. Brig him account from the
Speaker 2: Hudson Ins Too, was just in the show for the
Speaker 2: last hour talking about energy policy and his economic meeting
Speaker 2: in Europe that he attended. On his way out, he said, oh,
Speaker 2: David Taylor is going to be on. He's a great guy.
Speaker 2: I really think the world of him. So if Brigha
Speaker 2: Mcowan's likes you, I think that's a rubber stamp of approval.
Speaker 8: I'm glad to hear that. I appreciate that I'm saying that,
Speaker 8: and the hard work they do.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: You voted in favor of the one, Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 2: I do not like the name of it, but I
Speaker 2: like a lot about what's in it.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of on the the Thomas Massy ran Paul
Speaker 2: side of the equation about the deficit hole we keep
Speaker 2: digging ourselves in. It looks like there's no end in sight.
Speaker 2: But despite that, there are some really good things in it.
Speaker 2: And the Democrats are screaming and yelling, mostly about the
Speaker 2: cuts to Medicaid, although they seem to want to overlook
Speaker 2: that this would have been the largest tax increase had
Speaker 2: it not passed that America has ever seen all these
Speaker 2: middle class homes. And they keep talking about billionaires getting
Speaker 2: a tax cut. They never quite mentioned the fact that
Speaker 2: the middle class also is getting a rather extraordinary tax
Speaker 2: cut considering the income brackets involved.
Speaker 8: No doubt, Brian, the actually middle and lower income folks
Speaker 8: are going to see the bigger percentage of tax break
Speaker 8: from the Big Beautiful Bill. There really are no custom Medicaid.
Speaker 8: You know, we sat through quite a bit of debate.
Speaker 8: You're probably following some of that. Oh yeah, our sort
Speaker 8: of all night session, and I listened to what I didn't.
Speaker 8: I might have lost count at some point, but I
Speaker 8: believe it was about one hundred and five Democrats stand
Speaker 8: up in demand that there'll be no cuts whatsoever, no
Speaker 8: looking whatsoever at Medicaid or SNAP for any kind of fraud, waste,
Speaker 8: or abuse. They wanted illegals to continue to benefit from it.
Speaker 8: They wanted absolutely nothing done to stop the massive overspent
Speaker 8: on those two programs, two vital programs. That you are
Speaker 8: not sustainable if we don't look at how the money
Speaker 8: is spent. So they lined up and all made the
Speaker 8: exact same motion. We demand illegals on these programs, We
Speaker 8: demand how other frausters that continue to get their money,
Speaker 8: and we demand that the bureaucracy itself continue to be wasteful.
Speaker 8: So it was something to see.
Speaker 1: It really is and was.
Speaker 2: And you know, one must look to the original purpose
Speaker 2: of medicaid, which to help those on life's margins, get
Speaker 2: them through the bad phase of their life they're going
Speaker 2: in so that they can then free themselves in the
Speaker 2: biblical court of government and hopefully go on and get
Speaker 2: a job. But by expanding Medicaid ranks, which is what Obamacare,
Speaker 2: what they did during the Obama administration and offering the
Speaker 2: the these welfare benefits to able bodied people who should
Speaker 2: be in the workforce, I think is revealing of the
Speaker 2: ultimate subterfuge that's going on here, which is their ultimate goal,
Speaker 2: the Democrats goal to really turn Medicaid into what they wanted,
Speaker 2: which was national healthcare coverage for all. They wanted to
Speaker 2: put everyone on Medicaid at some point, right.
Speaker 8: And you know another thing, it's kind of cynical in
Speaker 8: my mind that the the cbo UH says that millions
Speaker 8: of people are going to lose their Medicaid coverage because
Speaker 8: the work requirements come in the The idea that these
Speaker 8: people might instead comply with the work requirements, which factually
Speaker 8: are not work requirements to begin with, doesn't cross their mind.
Speaker 8: Like these work requirements come in, which you know, we
Speaker 8: haven't basically every other you know, federal safety in that program.
Speaker 8: These come in, and their their presumption is that they're
Speaker 8: just gonna refuse to meet these requirements, which include you
Speaker 8: you can you can volunteer, Yeah, you can get work
Speaker 8: training for the terrible cost of twenty hour or the week,
Speaker 8: which most Americans don't even consider a full time job.
Speaker 8: You can volunteer at your own child's school twenty hours
Speaker 8: a week and meet this requirement.
Speaker 2: And continue to get the benefits. Right, and continue to
Speaker 2: get the benefits. I mean, you're not losing your coverage.
Speaker 2: You just need to get off your butt for a
Speaker 2: couple of minutes a week, right, I mean, isn't that
Speaker 2: what this comes down to.
Speaker 8: Exactly? And you can, Brian, you can literally do it
Speaker 8: from your butt. You can do it on the computer.
Speaker 8: That all makes you want.
Speaker 2: That's an excellent point.
Speaker 8: And meet the requirements.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, you know. And I it's just well, anyway,
Speaker 2: they try to make a mountain of a molehill of
Speaker 2: a non issue effectively, is what this is. So you know,
Speaker 2: women with young children and disabled folks and everybody else
Speaker 2: is going to tinde to get their Medicaid benefits. But
Speaker 2: there is a heapload of fraud, wasting abuse, and there
Speaker 2: are a whole lot of illegal immigrants that sign up
Speaker 2: for these social welfare safety net programs. But the fundamental
Speaker 2: point that almost was glossed over in your initial comments,
Speaker 2: no snowfall of view, is these programs are on a
Speaker 2: downward slide to becoming bankrupt. I mean, we hear about
Speaker 2: it social Security all the time. They're going to be
Speaker 2: taking less money in then they pay out. That is
Speaker 2: a huge problem for folks who rely on Social Security.
Speaker 2: Medicare and Medicaid are kind of in the same boat.
Speaker 2: They're not sustainable in the current trajectory. So history will
Speaker 2: look back and perhaps say, you know what, the saviors
Speaker 2: of medicaid were the Republican.
Speaker 8: Party, Right, the people you just talked about in pregnant women, children, seniors,
Speaker 8: people with disabilities that rely on Medicaid are in the
Speaker 8: long run going to lose their benefits because we can't
Speaker 8: do it anymore because it's unsustainable. So if we don't
Speaker 8: weed out they illegals, the people who are the so
Speaker 8: called able bodied adults without dependence who just refuse to work.
Speaker 8: If we don't get these sort of folks that shouldn't
Speaker 8: be on there to begin with off, these programs will
Speaker 8: be sustainable for the people who truly need it. And
Speaker 8: as you said, these programs are supposed to be temporary
Speaker 8: help to get you back on your feet. As Chairman
Speaker 8: Thompson says, it is supposed to be a trampoline, not
Speaker 8: a spider web. When you hit it and it helps
Speaker 8: you back up the goal of all these programs has
Speaker 8: to be to get folks back on their feet well.
Speaker 2: And the other component of this is I would argue
Speaker 2: that this twenty hour a week, you know a training
Speaker 2: requirement if you want to call it for some or
Speaker 2: you know community service requirement if you want to go
Speaker 2: down that road to fulfill your twenty hours. But in
Speaker 2: so far as job training is concerned, it couldn't come
Speaker 2: at a better time. I got Jack Winsor going to
Speaker 2: join the program at bottom of they are. He's the
Speaker 2: editor in chief over the Isile Press Network talking about
Speaker 2: small business owners struggling to fill jobs. I mean, the
Speaker 2: trades are a wonderful career opportunity. It doesn't take a
Speaker 2: four year education to get a job in the trades,
Speaker 2: electric plumbing, HVACM, there's a multitude. Construction. Demand is high,
Speaker 2: and you got a bunch of small businesses clamoring for
Speaker 2: people willing to work. Boom. The answer to your prayer is, Okay,
Speaker 2: I got to do some job training. Why not go
Speaker 2: out there and earn while I learn in the trade
Speaker 2: the profession. Timing's perfect, right, yeah, oh absolutely. The primary
Speaker 2: complaint I hear from small business owners throughout the second
Speaker 2: District is we just can't get anybody to work. Well,
Speaker 2: you continue to make the finance their lifestyle from their home,
Speaker 2: then they're not going to work. So, uh, changes have
Speaker 2: to be made. These able bodied folks need to work. Look,
Speaker 2: they're all going to be happier in the long run because,
Speaker 2: as you and I know, they don't make the rules.
Speaker 2: But if you feel like you're contributing something at work,
Speaker 2: you come home at the end of the day generally
Speaker 2: are a happier person. You may not all love your
Speaker 2: job every every minute of every day, but at the
Speaker 2: end of the week you say, you know, I accomplished
Speaker 2: something this week. Somebody needed me and I was there.
Speaker 2: That that helps people. There's there's no way around it.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 2: We send a couple of minutes left in the segment
Speaker 2: Congressman Dave Taylor from the second District, what what's beyond
Speaker 2: the the enshrinement of the tax cuts permanent, which is great.
Speaker 2: I hate I go on a tear about all the
Speaker 2: times did do tax policy and it's limited to some
Speaker 2: short period of time or ten years. They kick the
Speaker 2: can down the road and they forced another Congress to
Speaker 2: have to address it. At least this is permanent. If
Speaker 2: you're gonna want to raise taxes, you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: run on it, right, I mean, and no one likes
Speaker 2: to hear about their taxes going up, So good luck
Speaker 2: with trying to raise taxes down the road. So that
Speaker 2: kind of bursts the bubble of that possibility. If we
Speaker 2: get a Democrat Congress, they may try, but I don't
Speaker 2: think it would be popular with American people. Considering Trump
Speaker 2: ran on this. I mean, he was elected by a
Speaker 2: majority of the population, He won the majority of states,
Speaker 2: he won the electoral college across the board. It was
Speaker 2: a win, and he did not pull any punches letting
Speaker 2: the American people know what his agenda would be. This
Speaker 2: was in there. It's what we wanted, absolutely right.
Speaker 8: Usually you get these big thousand page bills and there's
Speaker 8: a bunch of so called pork in there. Every aspect
Speaker 8: of the big beautiful bill. As a campaign promise President
Speaker 8: Trump made, it's the agenda that people voted for in
Speaker 8: November is being implemented. You know, it's being codified. And
Speaker 8: as you said, the tax policy is vital. And the
Speaker 8: fact that these tax changes are not sunset not sunsetting,
Speaker 8: it was part of the negotiating process. So the doubling
Speaker 8: of the tax, child tax credit, doubling of the standard deduction,
Speaker 8: the twenty percent deduction for small businesses, the death tax
Speaker 8: exemption is doubled and made permanent. It goes on and on,
Speaker 8: and it's going to be to the extreme benefit of
Speaker 8: you know, main Street America. So no bill is perfect,
Speaker 8: but it's a darn good one, and you know, don't
Speaker 8: throw out the good for the sake of the perfect.
Speaker 8: I understand that argument. Of course, it's been made over
Speaker 8: again and the lead up to it, because there was
Speaker 8: some concern whether you know, the likes of Thomas Massey
Speaker 8: and others wouldn't get the perfection they were looking for.
Speaker 8: But I understand their principal point. Let's continue with Congressman
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Speaker 2: Fifty five krc ohc bil Uh. What else is in
Speaker 2: it that you are particularly fond of or proud of
Speaker 2: of Dave Taylor? Beyond the tax cuts, which I think
Speaker 2: you and I charactery across the border great for everybody.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the very important for our district was the community
Speaker 8: in rural hospital funding. I think everybody that you looked
Speaker 8: into it much knows that the provider tax structure we
Speaker 8: use now to fund it. It's sort of sort of
Speaker 8: an inherently unfair to the taxpayer system. On the other hand,
Speaker 8: community hospitals have to can you continue to be funded fully?
Speaker 8: And you know, we have great community hospitals in the
Speaker 8: Second District. We just need more of them, so funding
Speaker 8: has to continue. So my hat's off to the Senate
Speaker 8: for the changes they made to how community hospitals are funded.
Speaker 8: We're in close contact with Senator Houston and Senator Marino
Speaker 8: and and community hospital leaders from from the Second District
Speaker 8: and around the state. Before the big beautiful bill got
Speaker 8: across the finish line. They came up with a great solution.
Speaker 8: The community hospitals are very pleased with it. And for
Speaker 8: those of you they in Ohioans and think, oh, we
Speaker 8: have two brand new senators, maybe we're not getting the
Speaker 8: best bang for a buck in the Senate. I promise
Speaker 8: those two guys are kicking the same thing we were
Speaker 8: talking about sitting on earlier. They're doing a great job
Speaker 8: over there in the Senate for Ohio in all kinds
Speaker 8: of ways. So very very proud to get to work
Speaker 8: with those guys.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: In terms of energy policy, I understand it's a large
Speaker 2: expansion of domestic oil and gas production capacity. I know
Speaker 2: it comes at a kind of an odd time globally
Speaker 2: with OPEC increasing output, and I think it's done with
Speaker 2: the specific design to keep us from opening more wells.
Speaker 2: But we'll deal with with the consequences of that as
Speaker 2: we move forward. But also, and this is something I
Speaker 2: talked with Brigham Gown about with energy policy, an opportunity
Speaker 2: to start building more nuclear power plants, which I think
Speaker 2: are the ultimate key and answer to our energy production
Speaker 2: issues here in America.
Speaker 8: I agree Brandon, you know the Second District is going
Speaker 8: to have a large part to play with that. As
Speaker 8: I think we might have talked about last time. We
Speaker 8: have the only urate enrichment facility that's American owned in
Speaker 8: the United States and Pike County. But yeah, I like
Speaker 8: hearing all forms of energy talked about. I'm for You're
Speaker 8: even people are even talking about coal. The President's talking
Speaker 8: about the coal again. But I do believe nuclear is
Speaker 8: the future, and you know that's it's gonna It could
Speaker 8: very well be the epicenter of it right here in
Speaker 8: southern Ohio. Uh, there are small modular nuclear reactor companies
Speaker 8: who are eyeing the site, and UH, we're hoping for
Speaker 8: big things out of there. You know, it's obviously it's clean,
Speaker 8: it's abund and it's cheap. It's it's a solution to
Speaker 8: every aspect of the energy concerns, whether it does be
Speaker 8: environmental or supply and uh, it's a road we have
Speaker 8: to travel in safely, responsibly and soon.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 2: And one of the criticisms from many, I think I
Speaker 2: will throw myself into the hat along that. Not that
Speaker 2: I'm against funding the military, but when you have an
Speaker 2: American military and a budget that they cannot even pass
Speaker 2: an audit five times in a row, I call that
Speaker 2: a giant red flag, most notably on the heels of
Speaker 2: what DOGE was able to figure out with even just
Speaker 2: one department of government that's usaid. No one is ever
Speaker 2: going to be able to convince me there isn't massive
Speaker 2: amounts of fraud, waste and abuse in American military, which
Speaker 2: has now has a budget of a trillion dollars. Is
Speaker 2: there any hope that I'm going to have my prayers
Speaker 2: answered that will unleash DOGE or some other entity like
Speaker 2: an Inspector General on the military spending budget to fire
Speaker 2: it out the fraud, waste and abuse, And maybe we
Speaker 2: don't have to spend that much mundy annually to keep
Speaker 2: our military ready and armed.
Speaker 8: Yeah, brand, I think you're even being extra kind. I
Speaker 8: think it's eight audits. They have been able to meet
Speaker 8: their number, so either way, one is too many. And
Speaker 8: the big beautiful Bill does have one hundred and fifty
Speaker 8: billion dollars for modernization of our military, which is vit
Speaker 8: all your getting out built in navy vessels by China
Speaker 8: at an alarming rate and a current we don't even
Speaker 8: have the capacity need to build at the rate their buildings. Right,
Speaker 8: money has to be spent, but it has to be
Speaker 8: spent wisely. And I think you know the dose activity
Speaker 8: is going to continue even without Elon Musk And obviously
Speaker 8: the Department of Defense is how long have we heard
Speaker 8: the joke about the five hundred dollars toilet seed? Oh yeah,
Speaker 8: So it just chugs on and on. So it has
Speaker 8: to be looked into our dollars. We worked hard for them,
Speaker 8: and we're happy to spend them to protect our country.
Speaker 8: But that's what they need to be spent on, not
Speaker 8: on a bloated waste.
Speaker 2: All right. And finally before we heard of ourt company,
Speaker 2: Congressman Taylor, we got money to secure border lots more
Speaker 2: ICE officers, money, more border patrol agents, all of which
Speaker 2: are apparently doing a very effective job. Right now. Do
Speaker 2: you think it's still necessary to build a wall? I mean,
Speaker 2: considering the last administration and the numbers just flowing over
Speaker 2: the border, that was because it was facilitated. I mean,
Speaker 2: we hung a dangling care of open borders and free
Speaker 2: benefits and stuff and things. The world showed up at
Speaker 2: the southern border and in the northern border as well,
Speaker 2: and we didn't do anything to stop it. As soon
Speaker 2: as Trump gets elected, it's almost it stopped completely. I
Speaker 2: mean there were very few interactions, and those who interacted
Speaker 2: with ICE agents were sent back home so they weren't
Speaker 2: admitted into the United States. We've almost shut down the
Speaker 2: illegal flow of immigration. Do we really need the wall
Speaker 2: if the agents themselves are doing an effective job of
Speaker 2: stopping to flow of humanity.
Speaker 8: It's a good question, Brian. I think on a cost
Speaker 8: to effectiveness basis, we should be going forward with the wall,
Speaker 8: and there are certain parts, so the bigger part of
Speaker 8: it is not wall. I think there's seven hundred miles
Speaker 8: left to cover, or seven hundred miles of wall and
Speaker 8: sixteen hundred total miles left to secure and for the
Speaker 8: dollars at that cost and the effectiveness that it has
Speaker 8: long term, especially in the event of a we go
Speaker 8: back to a Democrat controlled Congress and White House where
Speaker 8: you know, there what seemed to be their primary motivation
Speaker 8: was to get as many people as possible across the
Speaker 8: southern border. At least the wall would serve to slow
Speaker 8: it down in that circumstance. So yeah, I think, you know,
Speaker 8: you know, for value for a dollar, Yeah, I'm for
Speaker 8: the wall, for the for the barricade, because it's going
Speaker 8: to help our border patrol too. We went down to
Speaker 8: the New Gallas crossing point, and I mean that place
Speaker 8: is immaculate. They were showing us the intake and holding
Speaker 8: areas and there wasn't the sole in there that when
Speaker 8: while we were there, we didn't see anybody even attempt
Speaker 8: to cross. And those guys are happy as they can be,
Speaker 8: and they're working hard and been, you know, allowed to
Speaker 8: do their job, which is all they ever asked for.
Speaker 8: So I'm from making their job as easy as possible,
Speaker 8: for protecting America at the highest level we can for
Speaker 8: the most reasonable price we can, and I think the
Speaker 8: wall does that.
Speaker 2: Dave Taylor, and thanks to all those in the second
Speaker 2: District in Ohio for electing Dave's doing a great job
Speaker 2: up there, and keep up the great work, Dave, and
Speaker 2: we'll continue to as we move forward with the Trump
Speaker 2: administration see if he can't fulfill more of his promises
Speaker 2: that he and Dave keep doing the great work.
Speaker 5: My friend.
Speaker 2: I'll look forward to having it back in the morning
Speaker 2: show real soon. Thank you, Brian, looking my pleasure. Eight
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Speaker 2: in chief of the Hot Press Network, on overriding Governor
Speaker 2: de Wines vetos, what's he got against property tax relief anyway?
Speaker 2: Plus small business owners in Ohio struggling to fill job.
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Speaker 2: Hey twenty nine. If you've have CARCD talk station, hope
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Speaker 2: next conversation will be posted after the show. Welcome back
Speaker 2: to the fifty five Carse Morning Show. Editor in chief
Speaker 2: of the Ohio Press Network, Jack Windsor, Jack, it's a
Speaker 2: pleasure to have you on the program this morning. Hey,
Speaker 2: honored to be here at Thank you for choosing me.
Speaker 2: Oh please enjoy it. Happy looking forward to your insight
Speaker 2: on these important matters. Let's talk about the veto overrides.
Speaker 2: I was scratching my head. What does Governor de Wine
Speaker 2: have against some small steps in the right direction of
Speaker 2: providing the property owners here in the state of Ohio
Speaker 2: with some property retax relief. Of the sixty plus vetos,
Speaker 2: he singled out three of the ones that were related
Speaker 2: to a step in the right direction for property tax relief.
Speaker 2: Now we can talk about the specifics of them, but
Speaker 2: these were a consequence of a lot of study groups
Speaker 2: and efforts and work over the years to hopefully come
Speaker 2: up with a solution to get this onerous property tax
Speaker 2: bill off our back. So this has been widely discussed
Speaker 2: and these things were ferreted out and he vetos them
Speaker 2: and says, no, we need to talk about this more.
Speaker 2: What's your take on this, Jack, what's he got against
Speaker 2: property tax relief?
Speaker 14: Well, you know my take on it is he loves power,
Speaker 14: he loves control, and he loves things done his way.
Speaker 14: I guess what I scratched my head at was many
Speaker 14: of the property tax provisions that were placed in that
Speaker 14: biennial budget were actually the result of over a year
Speaker 14: of research and investigation by lawmakers and hundreds of hours.
Speaker 14: So what they put in the bill was already the
Speaker 14: product of a work group. And then Dwine comes out
Speaker 14: and says, well, you know, I think what we need
Speaker 14: to do is take a closer look at this.
Speaker 3: I'm going to create a work group. And he's done
Speaker 3: just that. So he has already started that process of
Speaker 3: creating a work group. You know, to me, it signals.
Speaker 14: And listen anyone who follows me on social media, anyone
Speaker 14: who's followed by reporting on Governor Mike Dwine, I call
Speaker 14: balls and strikes no matter who the person. But when
Speaker 14: it comes to Governor Mike Dwine, I usually I don't
Speaker 14: mince words. And this is just a guy that I
Speaker 14: think is out of touch. I've never seen property owners
Speaker 14: here in the Buckeye State as livid as they are
Speaker 14: right now, and rightfully so. I talked to a man
Speaker 14: yesterday who has seen a thirty nine percent increase in
Speaker 14: his latest property tax bill, and he explains to me
Speaker 14: with what many of us already understand, which is great.
Speaker 14: The value of my house went up almost forty percent,
Speaker 14: but I didn't sell it right, and now I have
Speaker 14: to pay the difference in cash.
Speaker 2: It's an unrealized gain. Your house is only worth what
Speaker 2: you can sell it for on the open market at
Speaker 2: the day of the sale close period, end of story.
Speaker 2: They could say you all day long, your house is
Speaker 2: worth eight hundred thousand dollars, but if no one out
Speaker 2: there is willing to spend more than six hundred, you're
Speaker 2: gonna sell it for six hundred A You're gonna stay.
Speaker 2: It's unrealized gains.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, it seems to me that we could be
Speaker 2: testing that in the courts. How can you tax me
Speaker 2: on an unrealized value?
Speaker 14: I mean, that is it certainly seems unfair, and I
Speaker 14: think that strikes at the heart of what lawmakers tried
Speaker 14: to do with property taxes. And by the way, I
Speaker 14: have to be the first to admit our tax structure
Speaker 14: in Ohio, particularly when you looking at property taxes, it's
Speaker 14: a it's a mass. I mean, it's really hard to understand.
Speaker 14: And I think the part of the effort, part of
Speaker 14: the victory that lawmakers tried to celebrate when getting this
Speaker 14: budget over the finish line, was they were going to
Speaker 14: simplify the property tax code all all the different types
Speaker 14: of levees that schools go out for. It can be
Speaker 14: very it can be very confusing. For example, there are
Speaker 14: districts that go out and they'll declare it an emergency levee,
Speaker 14: and as a voter, you go, oh, well, that sounds serious.
Speaker 3: We better we better approve that one or else, right.
Speaker 14: But unfortunately, what we found out through the vetting of
Speaker 14: this UH, these property tax provisions, there was one school
Speaker 14: district that was in an emergency levee position for twenty years.
Speaker 14: And the question is what kind of an emergency is
Speaker 14: it if for twenty years, it's you know, it's a
Speaker 14: persistent issue. And so part of what this UH, this
Speaker 14: language tried to do was really dumb down the tax code.
Speaker 3: And so if you're a school district.
Speaker 14: You know, they're saying, there are only two types of levees,
Speaker 14: and we're going to be very clear about what those are, right,
Speaker 14: and here they are, and I think it takes away
Speaker 14: a lot of confusion for voters. But I digress. I
Speaker 14: probably need to come back up and so far in
Speaker 14: the weeds there.
Speaker 2: No, that's okay, because what was it the forty percent cap?
Speaker 2: If you didn't spend over forty percent of the prior
Speaker 2: year's budget, you couldn't ask for a levey. I mean,
Speaker 2: is that kind of what it boiled down to into
Speaker 2: the provision that he vetoed.
Speaker 14: Yeah, So what we've seen is and I talked to
Speaker 14: State Senator Andrew Brenner on this earlier in the week,
Speaker 14: and I'm going to give you numbers that are not precise.
Speaker 3: So let's take this for what it is.
Speaker 14: But say a decade ago, schools carried over maybe ten
Speaker 14: to eleven percent. That number has ballooned in terms of percentage.
Speaker 14: It's it's well over forty percent. And schools were carrying
Speaker 14: about ten and a half billion dollars in extra cash
Speaker 14: in the past couple of years. And so lawmakers said, well, listen,
Speaker 14: if you're carrying that much cash and property owners are
Speaker 14: struggling to pay their property tax bills. What we might
Speaker 14: want to take a look at is giving these local authorities,
Speaker 14: these local commissions, the opportunity to say, Okay, if you
Speaker 14: have cash in excess of forty percent of your operating budget,
Speaker 14: we're going to return that to taxpayers who are struggling
Speaker 14: to pay the tax bills.
Speaker 3: And that that is what got shot down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it seems like a very logical and reasonable
Speaker 2: step in the right direction. So I understand they're bringing
Speaker 2: back the lawmakers to override the three specific property tax
Speaker 2: related provisions to wine vetoed jack your tea leaf. Prediction
Speaker 2: on the success of that effort.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, the one that they're not certain about
Speaker 14: is that forty percent cap, but I think the other
Speaker 14: three are are pretty significant. One of them is making
Speaker 14: sure that the twenty mili floor calculation is changed. And
Speaker 14: without getting too confusing there, what's happening now is schools
Speaker 14: are going outside of what they could get at the
Speaker 14: you know, the baseline two percent and creating these other
Speaker 14: operating levees, and so lawmakers are going, now, we're going
Speaker 14: to include all of that into calculation to eliminate this
Speaker 14: type of confusion. I think I think the three other
Speaker 14: than the forty percent cap on carryover money, I think
Speaker 14: they will pass. The twenty first is the target date
Speaker 14: for the House members to return. The Senate is still
Speaker 14: working on a date to return, but because it is
Speaker 14: a House bill, it has to originate the override vote
Speaker 14: and effort that is has to originate in the House,
Speaker 14: So that will happen on the twenty first, and I
Speaker 14: expect the Senate we'll see probably sometime later in July,
Speaker 14: if not early August. The challenge they're running into, I understand,
Speaker 14: is a lot of lawmakers, as you know, they have
Speaker 14: second jobs and or they have families, and this is
Speaker 14: the time of year that they schedule vacations, and because
Speaker 14: they need three fifths vote approval, you want to make
Speaker 14: sure you get all the lawmakers back, and I think
Speaker 14: in the Senate that equates to about twenty two votes.
Speaker 14: So they're going to make sure that they have all
Speaker 14: the lawmakers back that are going to vote in favor
Speaker 14: of overriding the Vedo.
Speaker 3: So it'll be just a little later for.
Speaker 2: The Senate, all right, fair enough, And they have a
Speaker 2: window of opportunity that goes beyond the summer break period,
Speaker 2: so if they can't get the cats herded before then,
Speaker 2: they could bring them back, maybe in September or something
Speaker 2: and address it at that point. Jack Windsor from the
Speaker 2: Ohio Press Network editor in chief, we'll bring you back.
Speaker 2: And I was mentioning earlier in the program. I've said
Speaker 2: it a couple of times. What a great ideal opportunity
Speaker 2: since you now have to if you're able body, you
Speaker 2: now have to work at least twenty hours or get
Speaker 2: education at least twenty hours a week to continue Medicaid benefits.
Speaker 2: What a perfect time to do that because there are
Speaker 2: an abundance of job opportunities available for folks out there.
Speaker 2: Let's continue with Jack after these brief words fifty five KRC.
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Speaker 2: Coming up at eighty forty one fifty five KRCD Talk
Speaker 2: Station Brian Thomas with the editor in chief of the
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Speaker 2: Ohio Press Network. It's Jack Windsor returning the fifty five
Speaker 2: KRC Morning Show talking about budget line item vetos from
Speaker 2: the governor in the last segment and pivoting over to
Speaker 2: Ohio and the amount of jobs that are available. Sadly, though,
Speaker 2: Hi according to the reporting from the High Press Network,
Speaker 2: Ohio's unemployment rate JACK is the ninth worst in the country.
Speaker 2: And that's a statement in an article talking about small
Speaker 2: business owners clamoring to find qualified employees and having a
Speaker 2: desperate search to find those employees to fill the jobs
Speaker 2: that are available. Our our labor participantation rate does not
Speaker 2: have to be this low, and if those jobs are
Speaker 2: out there, we can improve that number of people just
Speaker 2: got up and started applying for jobs, couldn't we.
Speaker 3: It sure seems that way.
Speaker 14: And so I'm on both sides of the aisle here,
Speaker 14: one as a reporter and two my wife and I
Speaker 14: have several small businesses that we operate, and so we're
Speaker 14: living this Four point nine percent was the stated unemployment
Speaker 14: rate in Ohio.
Speaker 3: The last iteration of numbers that we received.
Speaker 14: As you mentioned, it's not good compared to other states.
Speaker 14: But what's really interesting is that unemployment is high and
Speaker 14: businesses small businesses, and that's the distinction. Small businesses are
Speaker 14: concerned at about two percentage points higher than they were
Speaker 14: last survey cycle on this so and by the way.
Speaker 14: You know, there are a lot of businesses that operate
Speaker 14: and you can think of what they are during the summer,
Speaker 14: and so there's an increase.
Speaker 3: In need for employees.
Speaker 14: So it might not be that uncommon for smaller companies
Speaker 14: to try to hire more. But I think there's something
Speaker 14: going on in the workforce still. I always contend, and
Speaker 14: I hate to beat this drum to death, I always
Speaker 14: contend that there's a certain amount of people that became
Speaker 14: brain broken during COVID. Oh yeah, and we see that
Speaker 14: in the in the in the job market, and it's
Speaker 14: a lot more of a fickle job market than I've
Speaker 14: seen in a while. But it's it's certainly a struggle
Speaker 14: for small businesses to find employ and keep good employees well.
Speaker 14: And you know, I have a thirty two year old son,
Speaker 14: and I've heard this.
Speaker 2: Anecdotal stories and observations that he's passed along to me
Speaker 2: about the age group and their mentality toward workforce. They
Speaker 2: don't have any loyalty to know at all. And you know,
Speaker 2: they'll walk off a job without even giving notice if
Speaker 2: they find out what they perceive to be a better opportunity.
Speaker 2: They're just up and gone. They don't feel like they
Speaker 2: need gave you a two weeks notice. They won't even
Speaker 2: call back if you get an interview opportunity. It's just
Speaker 2: like the ghost the employer who's reaching out to them
Speaker 2: because they submitted a resume. It's a really weird You
Speaker 2: mentioned fickle, but it's just the concept of loyalty and
Speaker 2: desire to do hard work, even if for the sake
Speaker 2: of work, it just doesn't It doesn't exist anymore, at
Speaker 2: least it appears so well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a very interesting dynamic. And I'm probably
Speaker 3: gonna reveal how old I am here and you and
Speaker 3: I might be the same on this, Brian.
Speaker 14: When I was younger and I was looking for a job,
Speaker 14: I put on a dagum suit and yeah, I printed
Speaker 14: out resumes and I walked into places and said, Hi,
Speaker 14: I'm Jack Windsor here's what I've done. Do you have
Speaker 14: an opening? You know, you don't see that stuff anymore now.
Speaker 14: Part of it is technology has advanced, and I get that,
Speaker 14: but you know, there's there's two things that I think
Speaker 14: I've seen in the workforce that I haven't seen, you
Speaker 14: know before, now that I'm really starting to notice. And
Speaker 14: one of the things you just said is that there
Speaker 14: is no loyalty and you know, for a few dollars more.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 3: But here's the other thing that I'm seeing.
Speaker 14: And maybe it's because workers are more in charge now,
Speaker 14: maybe they have more choices, maybe they have more options.
Speaker 14: But what I see is we, you know, we have
Speaker 14: several employees who have multiple jobs. So instead of certainly
Speaker 14: there are people who are unemployed. And then and then
Speaker 14: you have people who work two or three jobs. And
Speaker 14: so if you're one of those employers, now you're competing
Speaker 14: not only for their off time, but you're competing for
Speaker 14: maybe they could work with that other job for fifty cents,
Speaker 14: you know, more an hour.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 14: Yeah, And so once in a while we'll call people
Speaker 14: and say, hey, so and so called off, can you
Speaker 14: show up? Ah, I've got my second job. Let me
Speaker 14: let me call and see if I can you know,
Speaker 14: go in later there or whatever. And so, you know,
Speaker 14: there are just there's just weirder dynamics in the job
Speaker 14: job market than I've seen in part of it.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to as I think.
Speaker 14: I think we became very accustomed to sitting on our
Speaker 14: smartphones and watching wine with the wine at two o'clock
Speaker 14: and a lot of people just like to stay on
Speaker 14: the couch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I certainly see that myself, and I can't let
Speaker 2: this go without saying I wanted to go back to
Speaker 2: the budget and get your reaction because I think I
Speaker 2: know where it's going to be, the money for the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns, and that's the subject of litigation. I talked
Speaker 2: to the lead attorney at the Dan Law firm who's
Speaker 2: launched this legal challenge, and I think he is going
Speaker 2: to be met with wild success and I see him
Speaker 2: getting summary judgment on it. Because this is a taking
Speaker 2: of private property for the use of going to another
Speaker 2: private entity, in this particular case, the owner of the
Speaker 2: Browns family. That's unconstitutional. I don't care how the budget reads.
Speaker 2: You can't trump the constitutional reality of the countless cases
Speaker 2: that have said you can't do that. So maybe it'll
Speaker 2: get overturned. But the simple concept of doing it, Jack,
Speaker 2: who is it that that family has pictures of that
Speaker 2: allowed them to get six hundred million dollars for a
Speaker 2: private sports stadium. I mean that just drives me out
Speaker 2: of my mind.
Speaker 3: Jack. Yeah, so.
Speaker 14: I could probably get out my soapbox for twenty minutes
Speaker 14: here they're sixty seven line item vetos. Some of them
Speaker 14: I scratch my head, like keeping library books that have
Speaker 14: pornographic material or gender transition stuff within the line of
Speaker 14: side of children and do wine over riding that veto.
Speaker 3: I don't get it either.
Speaker 14: I don't get keeping money for homeless shelters that socially
Speaker 14: transitioned kids.
Speaker 3: I don't get it.
Speaker 14: I don't support it. But the one that I think
Speaker 14: the optics are terrible on is you're skating. You're kicking
Speaker 14: the can down the road on property tax reform. When
Speaker 14: people are losing their homes, Brian, They're losing their homes,
Speaker 14: homes that they've paid for, but because you know they're
Speaker 14: on a fixed income or whatever, they can't They're going
Speaker 14: to lose a home. But we're gonna give six hundred
Speaker 14: million dollars to the Cleveland Browns. This is tone deafness
Speaker 14: at its peak in my opinion. And I joke and Brian,
Speaker 14: maybe you can join me in this. I would argue
Speaker 14: you and I provide much more of a public service
Speaker 14: than the Cleveland clowns.
Speaker 3: Where's our millions? And then where's the line in the sand?
Speaker 3: And when do you say no, we.
Speaker 14: Can't give it to that private business, that we can
Speaker 14: give it to this private business. I think it looks awful.
Speaker 2: It looks awful, and you're a small business owner. Was
Speaker 2: there a line forming around the block in the state
Speaker 2: House that said this is where you stand in line
Speaker 2: to put your hand in the cookie jar?
Speaker 3: No, well, and listen, Oh go ahead, Sorry.
Speaker 2: No, just making the point. I mean, that's clearly the
Speaker 2: brown said they're footing the door or had an inroad.
Speaker 2: They're obviously very politically well connected. They've got a lot
Speaker 2: of campaign money to throw around. They're going to get
Speaker 2: the money. Everybody else will suck on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just it. And and frankly, I think there's
Speaker 3: a common thread here.
Speaker 14: We just talked about unemployment and small businesses being concerned.
Speaker 14: You know who's not concerned, Intel anderill Right, The state
Speaker 14: is very happy to help those bigger companies, and if
Speaker 14: you're the Cleveland Browns and the Hasms, so that they're
Speaker 14: willing to help you. But there are a lot of
Speaker 14: mom and pop companies out there that could certainly use
Speaker 14: some help.
Speaker 3: And so that's all I'm going to say about that.
Speaker 14: But I just think, listen, I grew up a Browns fan,
Speaker 14: So obviously I'm patient and I know what heartache is.
Speaker 14: But I just you don't give money to a private
Speaker 14: enterprise to build a stadium. And by the way, it's
Speaker 14: not the first time we've seen this movie, Brian. We
Speaker 14: know that the promises that these families and these companies,
Speaker 14: these sports teams make at the front end, they're never
Speaker 14: fulfilled on the back end.
Speaker 3: Never.
Speaker 14: They always overestimate and underdeliver. I don't know we should
Speaker 14: not be shocked when this is the case here.
Speaker 2: I think there have been studies. There's no singles stadium
Speaker 2: out there that has generated the return on investment that's
Speaker 2: promised up front, and then after the project is built
Speaker 2: you realize that no, maybe not, but it's too late
Speaker 2: that by that point, Jack Winsor You're always welcome on
Speaker 2: the fifty five Carsy Morning Show. I appreciate your insights,
Speaker 2: your comments, your thoughts, and enjoy reading what you and
Speaker 2: the other folks at the Ohio Press Network right about.
Speaker 2: It's online. You can find it, folks. I will recommend
Speaker 2: it the ohiopressnetwork dot com. Jack, I look forward to
Speaker 2: having back on the program real soon. Hepe.
Speaker 3: You have a wonderful weekend, my friend, you, Sue Brian,
Speaker 3: thanks for having me.
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