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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from Minute Media.

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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, welcome back to the show You Can't Be

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Serious podcast. This is episode two of The Godfather Versus

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Godfather to Versus Goodfellas.

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Speaker 1: To start it off today, I've got a joke for you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what kind of drink does the Godfather drink in

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the morning?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. An al Pacino? Oh my god, that

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I know that. Our plan was to go into the

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year so funny, and then we do the Joe Fish

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a bit, but that's so not funny. I can't even

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honestly say that that was funny. That was terrible. First

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joke I've ever heard. And the al Pacino it's awful.

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So let's talk calf on Goodfellas.

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Speaker 2: Okay, when Martin Scorsese and Nicholas pledge you get together

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to do Goodfellas, Martin Scorsese goes to his main man,

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his ace and the whole Robert de.

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Speaker 1: Niro, you're talking to me, Well, I'm the only one here.

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Speaker 2: Right, And he says, I want to do this movie

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called Goodfellas. I want you to be involved with it.

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Which part do you want? Do you want Jimmy or

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do you want Tommy? And Robert de Niro says, I

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want Jimmy, okay, And that was the piece that fell

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into place for the studio to back it, and they said, okay,

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we're going to all in on this movie. Al Pacino

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and John Malkovich were actually contacted about being Jimmy Conway. Okay,

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can you see John Malkovich playing this part?

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Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about Tommy or talking about Jimmy Jimmy.

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I would see John Malkovich more as a Tommy character.

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Speaker 2: So here's the interesting thing to me. So al Pacino says, no,

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I don't really want to do this. I don't want

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to be typecast as a gangster.

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Speaker 1: So hold on, hold on, Francis, I'm on the phone

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with Marty. Could you could you just hide please? And

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trying to lie.

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Speaker 2: Here exactly, and and so he ends up doing as

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we said god Father Part three and Dick Tracy, I say.

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Speaker 3: You get behind me, we all profit, you challenge me,

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we all go.

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Speaker 1: There was one the poll, one What's Done? One me

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the most charactered mobster in the world, Big Boy Caprice

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and Dick Tracy. I'm not sure which of those movies

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is worse, Godfather three or Dick Tracy. Now that is

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a matchup. We may have to now we don't have

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to investigate that Madonna might carry Dick Tracy over the

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edge on that one. Yeah, I don't know. Okay, So

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how do we end up with Joe Pesci? Obviously, Joe

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Pesci and de Niro and Scorsese have done Raging Bull together,

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So how do we get to Joe Peschi?

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Speaker 2: Basically, once you get de Niro in place, the next

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guy you go after is Joe Pesci, right, and so

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as it calls me Bump and says, hey, we're getting

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the band back together, let's do this right.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting is at the beginning of the movie

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they have Tommy as basically the same age as Henry right,

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And that wasn't exactly right as far as reality goes.

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I mean, it was like, I think, I think there's

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a ten year age difference in him anyway, and Robert Niro,

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with no makeup at all, is supposed to be playing

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this twenty eight year old guy. I don't understand that, right.

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And then when they're adults, somehow Tommy is exceeded Jimmy

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in age and Henry Hill is still much younger. I mean,

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same as reality. But let's at least stay consistent within

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the movie. Jimmy appeared to have aged rather quickly. Yeah,

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by the end of the movie hard Apparently a sociopathic

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hard life will get you that kind of age. So

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Joe Pesh.

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Speaker 2: She had done Raging Bull and then later he does

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Casino with Scorsese. He's kind of like Scorsese's second speed

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dial ractor, right, and.

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Speaker 1: He hadn't He had kind of been absent from big

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movies from Raging Bowl up until Letho Weapon too. Let's

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talk about leth a weapon too. I got it. I

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know all those routine yes, sir, Yes, that's me. Leo

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gets whatever you need. Leo gets you get it.

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Speaker 2: I use that all the time to break the ice

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when I meet people.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's good.

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Speaker 2: Leo gets is exactly the opposite of Tommy DeVito. Yeah,

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he's kind of a wiener. Okay, okay, It's just a scatterbox.

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Speaker 1: And it's been both funny though, like funny like funny,

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how like why am I funny? I can make you

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laugh like I'm a clown, Like I amuse you? I mean,

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you said it, what did you mean, he's a big boy.

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He knows what he said. Leo gets is hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So imagine we get Leo gets in Lethal Weapon

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Part two, we get Tommy and Goodfellas, and then next

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week get Harry from Home Alone. Shot what you have

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incredibly tough gangster booke, ended by two comedic roles, and

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he lights out in both.

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Speaker 1: Of them, all of them, all of them, all of them.

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He nails it every single time it is. He is

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a great act.

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Speaker 2: Now we got to talk about Henry. Yeah, Raleiota was

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the guy that they hired.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but they didn't want it. Once again, the studio

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did not want it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Raleiota talks about how they wanted anybody but him,

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and he said, in fact, I think they would have

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taken Eddie Murphy over. So they looked at Sean Penn,

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Alec Baldwin, Dal Kilmer okay, and Tom Cruise. Okay, I

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think that that's an interesting movie if you have Tom Cruise.

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Speaker 1: In there, it's an interesting movie with any of those guys. Honestly, Yes,

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you know what movie caused Martin Scorsese to want to

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cast is it something wild? Yes, which we have talked

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about multiple times now. But Something Wild is the movie

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that they refer to in Dumb and Dumber about the

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guy who gets chased down and gets his throat slit,

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where Raleiota plays this kind of mobster esque psychopath. Yeah,

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he's awesome in that.

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Speaker 2: You know the movie right before Goodfellas, he played shoeless

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Joe Jackson Field of Dreams.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, that was before that. Oh I love

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that movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we talked last week Rayleiota. He had

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been discussed to be Batman, a joker yep and two

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face Harvey Dent right right, and he turned that down

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Tim Burton's Batman to do Good Fellas.

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Speaker 1: The part of Karen, Karen, Why would you do that?

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Karen unsung hero of this movie. I mean, she delivers

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a performance beyond comparison. She's awesome. Lorrene Brocco, oh my gosh,

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nobody does that to me.

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Speaker 3: Who the hell do you think you want?

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Speaker 1: Frankie family or some kind of big shot. And you

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get a lot of folks who from this movie go

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on to do the sopranos. If you, of course have

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Lorraine Bracco, then you've got Michael Imprioli, who played Spider

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really small part but very memorable. Yeah, definitely. And then

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who's beaten on the trunk at the beginning of the movie. Yeah,

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Billy Batts.

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Speaker 3: Billy Batts, Hey Tommy, if I'm gonna break your ball

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that days to go home and get you shineboughed Frank Vincent.

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Speaker 1: So listen to this.

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Speaker 2: So Karen ellen Barkin was looked at to play Karen.

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Speaker 1: I could see that she can play she can play

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disgruntled housewife for sure.

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Speaker 2: And then also Madonna, what are you looking at? Well, okay, listen, Madonna,

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the material girl was at the height of her powers

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Speaker 1: True.

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Speaker 2: She instead goes on to do Dick Tracy with al

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Pacino and Warren Baby and that movie sucked. Yep, it

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was like Batman without Batman. That's all in the casting

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I've got for Goodfellas.

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Speaker 1: Shall we talk about the movies. Let's talk about the movies. Okay,

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So The Godfather was shot in sixty two days. Okay,

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sixty two days. This is a three hour movie was

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shot in sixty two days. The entire time that they

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are filming this movie. Francis Ford Coppola thought he was

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going to be fired. Every day he lived in fear

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that they were going to come in and fire him.

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Speaker 2: In fact, he's got people on his crew working against him.

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The assistant director is talking behind his back to the

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studio and they're like, yeah, the pictures that he's taken

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are beautiful, but they don't go together. Well, they don't

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cobble together. And so that guy at the studio, he

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gets another guy, like an independent editor. They piece him

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together and he realizes.

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Speaker 1: This guy's sabotaging him, and so he.

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Speaker 2: Goes to Copola, and then Copola looks around. He's like,

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you're gone.

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Speaker 1: You're gone. You're gone, You're gone, You're gone.

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Speaker 2: He like preemptive strike, fires anybody who maybe even partially

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against him. Wow, So he just goes on a firing spree.

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Speaker 1: Well you mentioned it. I want to bring it up. Now.

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There's one scene that changed everybody's mind. Once they saw

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that scene, everybody relaxed and said, we got this. This

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is going to be a good movie. Okay, let's talk

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about it. It's the restaurant hit scene. Yes, it is

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the most pivotal scene in the storyline of the movie

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and it is one of the greatest scenes in cinematic history.

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Wowback that he is talking in his in his bible

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that he's written. He makes notes in here that the

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audience has to be on edge about the fact that

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he's not following the instructions that he was given. When

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he walks out of that, every human being in the theater,

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every guy sitting and watching this on TV, is like,

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drop the gun, Drop the gun, drop the gun. Dang gun. Yeah,

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finally he gets rid of it, right, he's he's messing

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it up, but it's that tension. And then he's struggling

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to find the gun. Right when he goes into the bathroom,

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he's struggling to find the gun. Whenever they're in the

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car beforehand he's talking to these guys, he's still got

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the swollen jaw. I mean, it is tension, tension, tension

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building up to the moment. And then you got this

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scene where Salazso is talking and it's it's almost like

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background noise, like it's nothing that is of any importance. Absolutely,

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and you have the slow pan in to Michael Corleone's

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face as he just his eyes are all over the

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place as he is you just you're you're with him,

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going to do it? Is he really going to go

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through with it? Because this is the White Night that

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is about to do a double homicide in open public. Yeah.

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death I mean talk about point blank stands up, bullet

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to the face, boom, shoots Captain McCluskey, once starts to

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choke on his food, shoots him again in the head,

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and he comes down like a bag of bricks on

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that table and out the door. He goes, so great, man,

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Speaker 2: When he's reaching around in that old style toilet to

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try to find the gun. Yeah, it takes him a minute,

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and the whole time, I'm going, those guys are waiting

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for you. Let's go right, you know, and then he

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Speaker 1: He would have said some sort of tagline right here, like,

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you know, don't forget the parmesjan you know, yeah exactly,

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but you have that that cloud of red blood just

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Speaker 2: It's very violent.

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Speaker 1: He in the Bible needs to be a spray of

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blood everywhere. That's wonderful. Yeah, but you gotta get it

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up really close. It's like butter Bean, get all of

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your colored shirt. That scene is probably the second most

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important scene in the whole movie. Right, Okay, So Michael

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has just been beaten up, right, he's got the swollen jaw.

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He comes in, he is he has just had to

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save the life of his father. Right. He came to

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the hospital, nobody's there. He gets this poor guy who's

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coming with flowers to pretend like he's one of the

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mob members and look tough. Oh. There's so many great

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scenes in this but that moment where he walks in

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Sonny is in power. He's standing up, he's taller, he's

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above everybody else. He's talking about doing this big hit.

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Tom is trying to tell him this is not personal,

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this is just business, and we got to do this right,

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and Sonny does want anything to do with it. And

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Michael just sits down and he's given a hard time

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by Sonny. He gets up there and he gets in

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his face, and you gotta get him close to the guy. Yeah,

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blood all over your brand new college suit, right. Yeah.

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it's kind of like shoveling him off, and then everything

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switches and again we get this scene where Michael is

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sitting calmly in the chair and he says, no, here's

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what's gonna happen. We're gonna set it up where they

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give me a gun. I meet with them and I

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take them out and it's not personal, it's just business. Yeah,

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that's great. That is the moment that Sonny is not

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going to be the dawn. That is the moment that

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Michael takes charge. Great movie. Great movie, man, I love it. It

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transitions too.

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Speaker 2: Unlike Fredo, he's got the balls to pull the gun

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and blow those guys away. Kill a police captain in

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the middle of a restaurant with people standing around looking

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Speaker 1: It's crooked cop. Yep. We got people on the payroll

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that work for the newspapers, right, and then Michael goes

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to Italy.

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Speaker 2: That scene, the restaurant scene, Francis Foort Coppola like moved

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it up in the schedule because he was afraid he

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was going to get fired, and he needed to give

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them some action because everybody in the studio is like,

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when is this guy gonna do anything?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: So his job is on the line. Albacino's job is

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on the line. And so then he sends this movie back.

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It was like moved up to like day five or

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something like that, and so they shot that very early

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to get the studio to back off.

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Speaker 1: And let them do their thing. Por charm yep Okay.

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Speaker 2: After he shoots the Turk and the police captain.

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Speaker 1: He goes to Italy. So and he goes over to Italy.

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Speaker 2: He's got these two bodyguards, one of them s Fabrizio,

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which we'll talk about here in.

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Speaker 1: Just a second.

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Speaker 2: But he meets Apollonia. Yes, flash back to our Purple

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Rain episode, right, who's the most beautiful girl in the village.

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of the Godfather.

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Speaker 1: Also a throwback, the beginning scene of Purple Rain is

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inspired by the last scene of the godfok exactly.

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Speaker 2: So he goes to Italy, marries this girl she's killed.

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I mean, he's in love, falls in love, he's going

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to start a family. He's settled in Sicily. How much

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does his life change if Apolonia is not killed.

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Speaker 1: Substantially, Yeah, substantially, I would say. I mean, we know

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that he has a desire to go back because they

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have to tell him it's not safe for him to

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go back yet, right, right, And we know that there's

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going to be a callback for him because Sonny is

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ultimately going to get killed and Fredo has not got

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the chops to be the leader of the family, and

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so there's going to be that call. But if anybody

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else can step in, if if Tom could take over,

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think he retires making olive oil. And is there Italian

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connection for the remainder of his day. I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I think he lives happily ever after with Apolloni and

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they have eighteen children.

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Speaker 1: They live their life. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, then quick question, one little nitpicky thing I've got. Okay,

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he spends this however long in Italy? Yeah, long enough

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to meet court and marry a girl.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a quick turnaround.

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Speaker 2: She gets killed whatever, right, she gets blown up by Fabrizio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Which, there's a deleted scene where Michael gets his revenge. Yes,

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I wish we would have seen that because that would

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have been really cool. Yeah, he actually shot it for

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Godfather Part one.

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Speaker 1: It was cut.

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Speaker 2: They reshot it for Godfather Part two and it got

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cut there too. But all this time elapses. He goes

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back to the States. He's there for a year, and

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then he goes to see Kay and is like, hey,

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I'm back right boom, let's get married. He's a changed

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character at that point. I feel like that his marriage

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to Apollonia was because of love and desire. I feel

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like his marriage to Kay was because family is important,

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and so you are the one that I was with before.

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Speaker 1: We will go. We will have a family, we will

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have children, and things will be as they are supposed

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to be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I get that. But Kay's attractive woman. She's

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got no boyfriend or whatever. I mean, she's not doing anything.

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She's just hanging out for five years guess So okay, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't think it was that long. But yes, yeah, she

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loved him. She loved him, which makes the impact of

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the final scene, the final closing door, much more impactful.

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Let's talk about the it was an abortion, Michael, Oh

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my gosh, that's Godfather too. So that's the end of

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Godfather Part two, right, Kay is pregnant with Michael's boy. Yep.

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Speaker 2: He goes back because she's had a miscarriage quote unquote

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a miscarriage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And when he's talking to her, he's like, Okay, this

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is the way it's going to be, and she's like,

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you don't understand. It wasn't a miscarriage. It was an abortion. Right,

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I could not bring another son into this world.

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Speaker 1: He is attributing her attitude and unpleasantness to the fact

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that she had lost the baby, and he's thinking, it's okay,

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it'll get better, don't worry. That's when she drops that bomb.

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That's a huge bomb too. Oh my gosh. And you

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know who came up with that idea, Talia Shire.

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Speaker 3: It was an abortion, an abortion, Michael.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: She goes and she's like, you know what, miscarriage would hurt,

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but if she had an abortion, that would.

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Speaker 1: Be an affront to Michael of a boy. Yep. And

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she was exactly right. It was an abortion.

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Speaker 2: I know we're kind of dancing around here, but the

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end of Godfather Part one, yes, Michael goes after every

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head of the family. It was executed perfectly shoots mo

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Green in the eye. By the way, Moe Green, based

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on Buggsy c executes.

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Speaker 1: Another failed attempt by Warren Batty Bugsy. That's exactly right.

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I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The end of Godfather Part one is just awesome. The

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Christenine scene, Michael is at the church. They have all

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the heads of the families killed.

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Speaker 1: So at the beginning of the movie, we've got all

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kinds of Italian going on, right, I mean, it's just

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Italian wedding, and so there's all kinds of it there.

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By the way, I remember seeing this for the first time.

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I don't know how old I was. I just remember

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that it was like on the satellite, you know. And

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you get that scene where Sonny follows the bride's maid upstairs.

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I'm watching with my brother and he's got a friend

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with him. As the first time that I have heard

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the F word used as an action verb, where I

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was like, oh, so that's what that word means. Okay,

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I got it now. But anyway you've got you're you're

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establishing some characters, and Michael doesn't show up. I mean,

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this is he is the main guy. Despite the fact

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that he was nominated for Supporting Actor instead of actor

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he is. This is it's his story. It's the story

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of Michael Corleone and his rise to power in the family.

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But it starts off with him telling Kay, that's my family,

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not me. After he tells the made him an offer

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he couldn't refuse. Story either his signature would be honest

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on the contract or his brains would be. That's when

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he says, that's my family, not me. And what we

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see is he doesn't want to be that. He wants

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to be the white Knight that is untouchable, and they

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treat him that way. No, they know he's a civilian.

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They won't do anything to him. Those are lines in

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the movie. Sure, and so we see him move from

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that point, not just to becoming a part of the family,

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but becoming the new godfather. Let me ask you this.

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Go ahead, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: So we do see the rise of Michael. I feel

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like we are allowed to love the Vito Corleone character.

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He's wise, Yeah, he's controlled. Yeah, he's respected, he even

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seems kind he does Yeah, he's in control, unlike Sonny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now he does some things.

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Speaker 2: I mean he ordered that horse's head cut off and

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put in that guy's bed.

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Speaker 1: Real horse's head, by the way, real horses head, not

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a prop. They went to a dog food factory and

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got a horse's head, and they didn't tell the action

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that they were putting real horses in it. So the

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reaction that you get is genuine. Hey, one more thing

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about that scene. Yeah, that house that they filmed that

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scene in. Yeah, that house was the Fletch House. That's

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the Stanwick House in the movie Fletch. Okay, if you

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need a big, fancy looking house, here's the house that

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you can use.

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Speaker 2: Also used in the Jerk with Steve Martin.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna have a pool shaped like a heart rotating bed.

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I don't need let these pants real quick. I just

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got to say this. The Luca Brasi, yes character we

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talked about that was an actual probably hit man, but

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at least enforcer for the Columbo family. Yeah, so they

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had that scene where he interacts with Marlon Brandos. So

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you have arguably the best actor in the world at

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the time trying to do a scene with a guy

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who is a hit man for the mob, right, I mean,

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And so he's flubbing his lines and Brando doesn't even

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know how to react to this. Point right, So I

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know that at some point, Brando's like, okay, I need

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just a minute, and you told me a story about

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this go ahead.

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Speaker 2: So in order to crack him up, Brando had written

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a note on his tongue that said fu. And when

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he's trying to say his lines, he's stuck by his

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tongue and you know, he's just looking at Brando with

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his tongue.

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Speaker 1: Out, so the flub of the line becomes even more pronounced.

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So before all of this happens, Coppola catches this guy

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rehearsing his lines and he's just sitting there trying to

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say this one line that he's supposed to have, and

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he's like, this is true life right here, this is it.

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This guy is nervous, he wants to get what he's

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gonna say right, and so that's when he's like, turn

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on the cameras, let's get this in real life. So

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Luca Brazzi practicing him lines is actually the actor practicing

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his line. Don I am honored.

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Speaker 3: I'm grateful that you have invited me to your daughter's wedding.

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Speaker 1: On the day of your daughter's wedding. That's fantastic. And

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then he gets one of the most memorable references in

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all of movie history. It means Luca Brosi sleeps with

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the Fishes, right, and his death scene still, it's almost

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like he had seen some of those scenes in real

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life and knew how to bug out his eyes.

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Speaker 2: Prepy away, I'm gonna stick my tongue out and bulge

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my eyes. You know, the sleep with the Fishes thing

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where they get the fish that's actually wrapped in a

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bulletproof vest.

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Speaker 1: Every frame of this movie is like a piece of art.

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There's a tribute that you told me about it. He

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goes along with this.

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Speaker 2: George Lucas referenced the Luca Brossei strangulation scene in Return

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of the Jedi. Jab of the Hut is killed by

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Princess Leah, and it's made to look like the Luca

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Rasse scene in The Godfather.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. So you get a

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reboot of the strangulation scene in Godfather too. Right right,

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pintangially goes to have a sit down, He gets rid

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of his weapons at their request, and then he starts

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to get choked out. Right, you know who's choking him out.

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That's danny Ilo, danny I l O Papa don't preach.

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Madonna's dad and Papa don't preach, right, and so he's

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he is not a guy who is in any way

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famous at this point. He I mean, it was literally

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supposed to be. He was an extra. He ad libbed

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this line, Michael Hello. That's true, Michael Corleone says hello.

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Some people say he ad libbed the line because he

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knew you got paid more if you had a speaking part.

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00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,319
That's what I heard. But what the way he tells

468
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,240
the story is he goes in and they're doing rehearsals

469
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,359
and he's just into the moment and he just says

470
00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:10,640
Michael Corleone says, Hi. He's not supposed to say anything.

471
00:24:10,759 --> 00:24:12,519
He's just supposed to choke him out and that's the end.

472
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,079
And he said Francis Ford Copple was like, what did

473
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,480
you just say? He's like, I don't know, what did

474
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,039
I just say? He's like, did you say Michael Corleone

475
00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:27,880
says hello. He's like, he goes four, couple goes keep it.

476
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,279
I like it. Yeah, And that's how that line gets

477
00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:33,319
in there. It doesn't really make sense. Well, it's like

478
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,200
it's like they're trying to throw the fire off of them,

479
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,839
because obviously Michael Corleone is not the guy who's trying

480
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,400
to kill him. But it's like, hey, it's it's trying

481
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,720
to throw him off. I don't know why you'd try

482
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,279
to throw off the guy that is dying. I don't

483
00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:48,880
get it. I don't really know. It's confusing. Okay, it's

484
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,000
based on a true life event. This is like this

485
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,799
literally happened to a gangster called Joe Gallo. It's same time,

486
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,279
Crazy Joe Gallo, Crazy Joe Gallo. I've got some questions. Okay,

487
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,559
here's my question about Godfather Part two. Michael is in

488
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:05,240
his bedroom one night and he notices that the curtains

489
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,480
are where my wife sleeps, where my children playing with

490
00:25:09,519 --> 00:25:10,200
their toys.

491
00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 2: Actually, Kay is the one who says, Michael, why are

492
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,599
the curtains open? And he's like, h why are the

493
00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:19,799
curtains open? Boom hit the deck, boom machine guns. Okay,

494
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,839
so obviously there's been a hit put on Michael by

495
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,559
Hyman Roth.

496
00:25:24,759 --> 00:25:27,079
Speaker 1: I get that now, we know now. Yes, the first

497
00:25:27,079 --> 00:25:29,319
time I saw it, I was like, who did this?

498
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,839
Like what? I don't really get it.

499
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 2: And we find out that Fredo is the one who

500
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:35,039
betrayed him.

501
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: We know that Fredo is talking to Jimmy Ola because

502
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,519
he gets that phone call in the middle of the night.

503
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,039
Speaker 2: Yes, so he gave him some information, and Fredo thinks

504
00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:44,640
that they lied to him, so he's like, hey, you

505
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,400
guys lied to me. So I don't think that Fredo

506
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,359
knew it was a hit.

507
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: The question is what did he give them, right? Did

508
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,759
he open the curtains? I don't know. I don't know

509
00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:56,359
what he gave him. Maybe he just said he knows

510
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,119
he'll be home this evening because they've got this big

511
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,680
party planned and this is where his bedroom is. I

512
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,279
don't know. We don't get that information on what Fredo

513
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,759
told them that they used as information to put a

514
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:09,240
hit on him.

515
00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:12,079
Speaker 2: Okay, so we know that that Fredo gave some sort

516
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,640
of information that led to the execution this hit.

517
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: There are only two possibilities as far as Michael can tell, right,

518
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,480
it's either potentially or it's Hymen froth right, right, and

519
00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:25,240
so he's got to figure out which, and he puts

520
00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:28,559
both of them to the test. And whenever Potentially has

521
00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:32,240
not been drinking, he's respectful, and there's he can just

522
00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:34,319
tell this isn't the guy, This is not the guy

523
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,960
who would do this. This isn't it, And so then

524
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,519
he goes to he goes to viitymen Roth and his

525
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:45,759
little suburb home in Florida, and they're both talking to

526
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:49,240
each other in such complimentary ways, and they are both

527
00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:52,000
just full of crap. You seem like a nice, intelligent

528
00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:55,200
young boy. Oh, your wisdom is very appreciated. Yeah, I

529
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,920
mean it's they are talking away, which we as the

530
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,240
observer for the first time, you're just thinking, Okay, there's

531
00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:04,839
mutual respect. No, it is Michael keeping his enemies closer.

532
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't catch that the first time I saw it.

533
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going on here? These guys like each other,

534
00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:13,000
you know they're gonna team up, and Fredo completely gives

535
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:15,720
himself away because when they do ultimately end up in Cuba,

536
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,880
Johnny Olo comes over and Fredo immediately gets awkward and

537
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,079
he's like, uh, yeah, we never met before, and then

538
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,279
he's not wanted to talk. But as Fredo has more

539
00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:26,799
and more to drink, they go to this club where

540
00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:29,000
we the only information we have is that there's something

541
00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:36,119
large and inappropriate and the Cuban sex show, and Fredo's

542
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,480
alcohol up mouth starts talking about how Johnny Olo knows

543
00:27:39,519 --> 00:27:41,400
the place, and then Hyman Roth would never go to

544
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,400
a place like this. And it's at that point that

545
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,920
Michael realizes it's Fredo who's betrayed him. So here's my

546
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:47,640
question to you.

547
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: Okay, Michael tells Tom Hagen, tell Fredo I know that

548
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,240
he was misled, tell him to come home.

549
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:55,519
Speaker 1: It's okay.

550
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: And me, as an observer, I'm like, Okay, Michael's bad,

551
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,559
Michael's evil. He's not gonna kill Fredo. I mean, Fredo

552
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,039
is a brother, He's a member of the family. And

553
00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:09,880
then he gives that look to his security guy and

554
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,880
all he does is just gonna glance at him. And

555
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,759
next thing you know, when they Fredo the fisherman out

556
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:16,319
on the boat gets a bullet in the back of

557
00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:16,839
the head.

558
00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: Who sayings, hal Mary. Well, here's my question. Okay.

559
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,279
Speaker 2: So I love the cinematic way that this happens. Michael

560
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,920
gives the death order with a glance.

561
00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:28,599
Speaker 1: Yep.

562
00:28:29,319 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: But I'm thinking practically to myself, if I'm the security guard,

563
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,559
I'm like, was that the like.

564
00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: A week week? Like are you blinking at me? Or

565
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,000
like should I really? You know, I just want to

566
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:43,119
be sure the girls in the audience get it better

567
00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:45,680
than the boys, because the difference between a girl glance

568
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,640
of hey, check this guy out and hey, this guy

569
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,279
is really creeping me out is so minuscule. But they

570
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:53,839
get it. Okay, Yeah, No, I don't know. I don't know.

571
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,079
It's it's it's cinema. I guess it's executed. So well,

572
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,759
here's the problem that I have. I don't have very

573
00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:02,559
many problems with either one of these movies, but they're

574
00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:05,359
down in Cuba and the guy who's supposed to be

575
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,839
this covert hit man is dressed in a black turtleneck

576
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,880
the entire time, like what it's standing out of a

577
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,279
sore thumb. Everyone else is wearing white. You got a

578
00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:21,119
black turtleneck sweater and a black hat on. I have

579
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,720
the perfect outfit for this job. So if you're not

580
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,160
wanting to look like a mafia hit man, good job.

581
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:33,319
Speaker 2: Yes, let's talk about Robert de Niro's performance Real Quick

582
00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:34,519
and Godfather Part two.

583
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,039
Speaker 1: Okay, So, Robert de Niro was one of the guys

584
00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:40,720
that they really seriously considered for Sony that actually offered

585
00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:44,480
him the part of Paulie. Paulie's the guy who was

586
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:48,279
sick the day that he was supposed to drive Vito

587
00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:51,440
Corleone around and video Corleone gets killed. Do you want

588
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,119
to touch in the oranges right now? Yeah, let's talk

589
00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:56,279
about the oranges real quick, okay. Go. So anytime you see.

590
00:29:56,119 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: An orange, or even the color orange in The Godfather,

591
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:02,960
it signifies death. Somebody is about to get it.

592
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: Okay.

593
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: So, like Vito is in that market and he's buying fruit,

594
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,480
He's like, hey, how much for the oranges, which he

595
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:12,279
gets shot about seventy five times. You know, the way

596
00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:14,119
bullets are used in both of these movies.

597
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,799
Speaker 1: I got a problem with. Okay, Okay, this is a

598
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:18,599
small nitpick. Vito Corleone gets.

599
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,319
Speaker 2: Shot a bunch twenty times, yeah, thirty times, and he

600
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,920
recovers Okay.

601
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he gets you know, this dog a little bit because.

602
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,039
Speaker 2: It got one in the throat, right, Sonny, when he's

603
00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:30,920
executed one hundred and fifty times.

604
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: I can actually give you the exact figure there. The

605
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:37,400
answer is it is a one hundred and forty seven

606
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,519
squibs on Sonny. James CON's telling his story and he's like,

607
00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:44,319
this guy is putting the squibs on me. He tells me,

608
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:48,920
I never put this many squibs on anybody. James CON's like,

609
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:51,799
I don't think it's necessary that you should tell me that. Now.

610
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that scene is ridiculous. Okay, so I'm gonna nitpick

611
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:02,680
that sec what. Yes, So Sonny's execution is total junk. Okay,

612
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:07,279
So here's the deal, all right, So this is the

613
00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:10,720
this is how Sonny's getting killed. Okay, here's the plan. Yeah,

614
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:14,160
I'm gonna have a woman called Connie's house. Connie's gonna answer,

615
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,799
She's gonna think her husband is cheating, so she's gonna

616
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,319
yell at her husband and throw dishes all over the place,

617
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,759
so her husband gets mad, beats her up.

618
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: That's it, breaking all your spoil guinea break.

619
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,079
Speaker 2: That causes Sonny to get mad. He goes over and

620
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,880
on the way he's unprotected, so they're.

621
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,039
Speaker 1: Gonna shoot him up a billion times. You think that's

622
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:40,960
the most complicated plan in all those movies? Really? Yeah,

623
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,839
So you don't have a problem with the scene itself.

624
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,599
You just have a problem with the plan and how

625
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:47,799
it gets executed. What about the fact that Polly's sick

626
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:50,640
on the day that Veto's supposed to get hit, Well,

627
00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:54,200
how do they know that Fredo is going to drop

628
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,920
his gun like a little pansy. That's a good question.

629
00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:00,440
Here's the other thing. When Sonny gets shot, he I

630
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,480
mean he gets like twenty through the windshield, gets out,

631
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:06,799
stands up, gets another forty yep. I mean it's hard

632
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:09,480
to kill. And the whole time he's like, ugh, have

633
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:11,640
you seen the scene in the Simpsons where Bart gets

634
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,759
those gets snowballed? No? Oh, it's great because they match

635
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:18,720
it shot for shot, like every twist and turn. Bart

636
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:21,960
is doing it as these getting Pummel's classic.

637
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:24,759
Speaker 2: Okay, I wanted to mention Robert de Niro and Godfather

638
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:28,400
Part two playing young Vito Coleone. Yes, almost his entire

639
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,799
performance is in a foreign language. He didn't speak Sicilian,

640
00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:34,079
he didn't speak Italian at all, and so he not

641
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,960
only had to learn a new language, but he had

642
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,720
to learn how Marlon Brando would deliver those lines.

643
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, he changed his voice a little bit, a little bit,

644
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,799
a little bit, so he actually spent several weeks in

645
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,359
Sicily just trying to pick up the dialect, trying to

646
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:52,759
pick up the language. But yeah, his entire performance is

647
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:55,799
in a language that he does not speak. He has

648
00:32:56,079 --> 00:33:00,039
I think maybe four lines in the whole movie that

649
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:03,519
are not in Italian and he still gets nominated for

650
00:33:03,559 --> 00:33:07,079
the Oscar. It's incredible. Yeah, I think that is my

651
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:11,119
favorite part of that movie, to see the old twenties

652
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,759
storyline of him coming to the New World, him becoming

653
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:20,920
the Dawn, that whole execution, it's a great story. Again.

654
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,319
Beautifully shot him on rooftops, watching him walk the stuff

655
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:28,359
with the turning the light so that there's like this

656
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,400
distraction and darkness, and then the towel wrapped around it.

657
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,759
That was something they actually did to make it like

658
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:37,480
a silencer so people wouldn't hear it and then it

659
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:41,559
catches on fire. This is all real life stuff. It's incredible, right,

660
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,359
Another fantastic movie. Man, I gotta say, ah, crap, I

661
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,119
can't leave The Godfather too yet. The scene with Freedo

662
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,519
where he's laying down in that chair while Michael's talking

663
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:56,000
to him, I mean, could you make and could you

664
00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:58,799
make somebody look any weaker than I'm stuck in a

665
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:04,119
chair that won't stop reclining. Yeah, it's fantastic anesthetic. Yeah,

666
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,159
performance is brilliant. I'm not dumb. I'm smart. I can

667
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,480
handle stuff. I'm don't like they say, no, I'm smart.

668
00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:13,440
You're my kid brother.

669
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 2: Before we get off Godfather, the botta being that James

670
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,039
Cohn says when he is acting like you're shooting Michael

671
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:21,400
in the head.

672
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you gonna do? Nice college boy? Eh?

673
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: They want to get mixed up in the family business.

674
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,000
And now you want to gun down a police captain

675
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,480
one because he slept in her face a little bit.

676
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: What do you think?

677
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 3: This is the army where you shoot him a mile away.

678
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:34,360
You gotta get him close like this. But I'm being

679
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,840
your blow their brains all over your nice side of

680
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,400
the league suit.

681
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,199
Speaker 2: That was a phrase that he heard from an acquaintance

682
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,599
who was a mafia guy. Okay, so James kind adopted it,

683
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,639
added it in and now it is widely accepted as

684
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,159
mafia language by being yep, one.

685
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: Of those ways that The Godfather affected the world. Let's

686
00:34:51,400 --> 00:35:02,320
talk about good Fellow. Let's talk about good Felas. There's

687
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,360
an actor that we didn't talk about when we talked

688
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,840
about casting. But there's one guy, so far as I

689
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,039
can tell, one guy that was in all three of

690
00:35:11,079 --> 00:35:14,679
these movies. His name is Frank Severa. He played the

691
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,519
part in Godfather iiO of the Friend of the Young

692
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:22,760
Veto who works in the grocery store, whose dad owns

693
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,960
the grocery store, who has the girlfriend who's the actress

694
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,199
that they see get threatened and he cowers away. Yeah, yeah,

695
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,519
about how beautiful a she is? Right, that's right, that's right.

696
00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:35,400
And so he had also been an extra. He had

697
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,960
been like in some of the street scenes and Godfather

698
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:41,280
one yes, gets the part in Godfather too. And then

699
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,880
he's also Carbone in Goodfellas. He's the guy who gets

700
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:49,679
frozen solid and takes three days to thaw out in

701
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,920
good film. It's so sad. When I saw it, I'm like, no,

702
00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:55,280
they cook Carbone. He was one of the guys. It's terrible.

703
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,679
So I looked him up. And interestingly, while he was

704
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:04,000
developing the Carbone character, he lived next to some writers

705
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:09,480
who were writing episodes of the Simpsons. You know that

706
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:12,880
in the Simpsons they have the fat Tony character that's

707
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,280
supposed to be like the Godfather character, and he's always

708
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,559
got two guys with them. One of those two guys

709
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:21,119
is named Louis. And if you look at Louis, he

710
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:26,480
looks just like Carbone in Goodfellas. And so when the

711
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:31,519
Simpsons episodes came out, Frank Severro was like, they stole

712
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:33,920
my identity. I worked this character because it's not a

713
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,199
real guy. He's not playing like an actual character. He

714
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,519
is playing a part that he kind of created that

715
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:43,480
was an amalgamation of several other guys, and so he

716
00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:47,039
sued him. Buddy lost. Oh okay, yeah, but if you

717
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:52,159
look at Louis looks exactly like Frank Saverro out of Goodfellas, who,

718
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:54,280
by the way, was born in Sicily, Italy, he could

719
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,920
be a made man if he needed to be. By

720
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,280
the way, I heard that they recently changed that rule

721
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,880
the Mafia did. Well, I can see that.

722
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: Because you don't have to be pure Sicilian. And it's like,

723
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:08,880
do they have a rule book, like an actual rule book.

724
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: Well, I mean there's a lot of there's. And this

725
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,119
is important to the idea of these movies. They they

726
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,480
made ceremonies that emphasized how important it was that you

727
00:37:18,559 --> 00:37:21,119
do follow their rules. They've got a I mean a

728
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:24,679
part of their ceremony is you prick your finger, get

729
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:26,599
the blood running in your finger, you wipe it on

730
00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:29,480
the picture of a saint, and then you burn the picture.

731
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,559
And the idea is this is what should happen to

732
00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:34,760
you if you ever are a trader to the family.

733
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,360
So it's important for goodfellas, right, the idea of goodfellows.

734
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,039
And then the other one is this code of silence.

735
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,400
You never talk about being a member of the mafia

736
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,440
with anybody else. Henry Hill violates both of those rules.

737
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,280
And always keep your mouth shut, never read on your friends.

738
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:52,800
There you go.

739
00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: You know, we briefly touched on the how my funny

740
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,719
thing with Joe Pesci. Yeah, that was an actual event

741
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,119
that happened to Joe pet She when he was a waiter.

742
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,360
He told a mobster that he was a funny guy,

743
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,440
and the guy did not take that well, Oh my gosh,

744
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:12,119
especially from a young Ish waiter, punk kid.

745
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, funny funny? How how am I funny?

746
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,559
Speaker 2: What a great scene that is it?

747
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,199
Speaker 1: It's probably the most memorable scene in the movie, definitely.

748
00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:25,079
It's just, you know, she's just funny. It's you know,

749
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:27,679
the way you tell the story at everything funny? How

750
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:30,840
I mean, what's funny about Tommy? Know?

751
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 3: You got Anthony, he's a big boy, he knows what

752
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:34,760
he said.

753
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: What'd you say? Funny? How?

754
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:39,199
Speaker 3: What?

755
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: Just you're funny? You mean, let me understand it because

756
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:47,400
I know maybe E smambled stuff. Maybe, but I'm funny

757
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,199
how I mean funny?

758
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 3: Like I'm a clown.

759
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,199
Speaker 1: I amuse you, I make you laugh. I'm here to

760
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:54,960
amuse you. What do you mean funny? Funny? How how

761
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,599
am I funny? And it builds the tension and Tommy

762
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:01,840
is kind of this driving worse of the danger that

763
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,400
is always lurking over the shoulder of members of the mob. Right,

764
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,199
you never know when your best friend is going to

765
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,320
put an ice pick in the back of your head.

766
00:39:11,679 --> 00:39:14,840
And and Henry Hill said, this is the way I lived.

767
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:17,960
I was constantly scared that Tommy was gonna do something

768
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,880
and gonna go off. He was legitimately this kind of

769
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,760
psychopathic character. And he wasn't a little guy, that's the thing. Yeah,

770
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,320
he was a big, freaking like bare fist fighter big guy.

771
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,000
So not only do you have the psycho killer, you've

772
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,480
got one that can do the job quickly. Yeah, Henry

773
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:40,840
Hill said, in watching Joe Pesci do the performance, he

774
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,719
nailed the character by ninety percent of how the real

775
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,199
guy was. Wow. Yeah.

776
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,079
Speaker 2: Do you know that this movie has three hundred and

777
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:51,840
twenty one f wards or fward variations?

778
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:55,199
Speaker 1: What do you want to tell me now, tough guy,

779
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,920
I said, I mean, what is doing?

780
00:39:57,039 --> 00:40:00,079
Speaker 2: I want to tell you to go five money.

781
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: There's so many wonderful ways to use the I mean, right.

782
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,320
You know, as of twenty twenty, it is number fifteen

783
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,360
on the list. Wow.

784
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,519
Speaker 2: Martin Squisese bested himself with the Wolf of Wall Street

785
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:17,280
and apparently it has more f words.

786
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,559
Speaker 1: So things that happened in the movie that happen in

787
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:23,800
real life. Yeah, you can. You can probably guess. I mean,

788
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:26,599
if you're watching it and you're going, oh my gosh, this,

789
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,840
the more crazy the scene is, the more likely that

790
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,480
it happened. For example, the scene with Spider this is

791
00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:38,360
true life. Like Tommy DeSimone really killed a guy for saying,

792
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,719
go f yourself, right, right, I mean it was, and

793
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,199
it was after doing the shooting at him, after Tommy

794
00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:45,119
had shot him in the foot, shot him in the foot.

795
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:48,679
Days later, comes back. He's a little upset because he's

796
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:52,280
in a cast, right, and so Tommy's busting his balls again,

797
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,679
and so he's like, you know what, go f yourself.

798
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,440
And the guys who are sitting around Tommy You're like, oh,

799
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:01,559
and they still to bust his balls. A little bit too,

800
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,119
and that's when he pulls out his gun and blows

801
00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:08,400
the guy away. Incredible. So when Michael Imperioli perform the scene,

802
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,079
you know when he gets shot on the chest, he's

803
00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:13,199
got these drinks on him and he goes flying back. Yeah,

804
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:16,159
well he actually sliced his hand open on the glass.

805
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,320
Continue to shoot the scene, finished it out lying there

806
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,719
in both fake blood and real blood, got all the

807
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,920
squibs gone, and his real bleeding hand. And so once

808
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,719
the scene is done, they're like, oh, crap, that's a

809
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,519
bad cut. We need to take you to the hospital.

810
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:31,280
They rush him over to the hospital. He's at the er.

811
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:33,559
The er is like ah, and they get him in

812
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:35,360
there and they start working on his hand, and then

813
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,920
they start to try to work on his chest and

814
00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:40,800
they're like no, no, no, no, that's these are squibs. This is

815
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,159
this isn't real where we're actors. This is a movie.

816
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:49,159
And they're like, oh, go back in the waiting room. Ah,

817
00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:50,039
that's funny. Yeah.

818
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:53,119
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the beginning of Goodfellas. Okay,

819
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:57,000
Mark Scsese does a couple of interesting creative choices, I think. Okay,

820
00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:00,360
so number one, you start off with the billy bats scene.

821
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: Middle of the movie. Well, like now, I'm saying, the

822
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,559
middle of the story starts the beginning of that. That's right.

823
00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 2: Yes, So they're just driving and you hear this banging around.

824
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,440
So they pull over, open the trunk and there's a

825
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,400
guy that's clearly been beaten, and they just stab him

826
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,519
with kitchen knives and shoot him, shoot him, stab him.

827
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:22,639
Speaker 1: You're thinking, holy shnikes, this is horrible right out of

828
00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:26,239
the gate. And then Raleoda slams the trunk shut and says,

829
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,880
all my life I wanted to be a gangster boom

830
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,360
into the back into nineteen fifty five.

831
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: Fascinating choice by Scorsese to pluck that out of the

832
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,199
middle of the story.

833
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: Start off the movie with that scene where he gets

834
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,840
beat by his dad from missing school. True to life

835
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,079
Really happened. Also followed by the scene where they threaten

836
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:47,440
the mailman stick his head in the oven. True to

837
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,039
life really happened. You don't deliver mail? You see this?

838
00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:56,360
No mail for a mail man. I really want to

839
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,679
get to the Liftanza story. It's interesting. This is Henry

840
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,239
Hill's story, and he's got a really small part of this.

841
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,239
But this could be an entire movie all to itself.

842
00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:10,519
It's incredible that Liftanza heist. So there's a podcast out there,

843
00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:14,440
it's called Infamous America, and they've got a series, what

844
00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:17,400
is it, six episodes. It's a six episode, six episode

845
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:21,119
series devoted just to the heist. That's it, not the

846
00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:23,639
whole Henry Hill story, although they do give you plenty

847
00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:27,360
of information there, But just about that heist.

848
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: Infamous America from friend of the show Chris Wimmer for

849
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:33,440
those of you who may not really remember, it's when

850
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,599
they rob the airlines, they were actually bringing cash.

851
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Gis had come and exchanged money. There were two

852
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,440
different two different heists. One was the Air France heist

853
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,400
and the other one was the Lafonsa heist, and two

854
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,719
separate things. Both of them really occurred, and both involved

855
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,400
the same guy that worked for the airport, right, the

856
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:56,239
only guy, by the way, that was prosecuted in the

857
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,000
case until like late two thousands. It was a mystery

858
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:03,559
until twenty fourteen. Yeah, I mean, well, because they killed everybody.

859
00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:06,320
That part is true as well. Jimmy got super paranoid

860
00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:09,360
and he started killing everyone who is involved.

861
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,079
Speaker 2: That's the reason why he's offing everybody at the end of.

862
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:15,119
Speaker 1: The movie, right, and so what are you buying this

863
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:16,960
for a crup for? I told you not to buy

864
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,280
anything right the point where take it off? Take it off?

865
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,039
Henry Hills asked to go do a hit down in

866
00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:25,679
Florida and says, at that point, I knew I was

867
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,719
never going to come back from Florida. It's at that

868
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,159
point he has to choose. He's like, do I keep

869
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:34,119
on living or do I obey the rules of the mob? Right,

870
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,519
I guess I'll have to choose keep on living. By

871
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:39,039
the way, when they're doing the interview scene talking to

872
00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:42,519
him about the witness Protection program with him and Karen, Yes,

873
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,800
the guy who's doing the interview is the actual prosecutor

874
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,880
investigator of the case. He's the real guy. He and

875
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,199
Henry Hill actually became friends after this, like they would

876
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,639
They tour and do talks together. It was It's crazy

877
00:44:55,679 --> 00:44:57,960
that is, but the guy, the real guy who did it.

878
00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:01,239
He's like, I'm sitting there with these cameras around, and

879
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,920
we having a conversation with these two actors that I've

880
00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:06,400
actually had with Henry Hill and Karen.

881
00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:09,559
Speaker 2: It's amazing. You know the movie My Blue Heaven with

882
00:45:09,639 --> 00:45:14,079
Steve Martin and Rick moranis That is based on the

883
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:18,199
Henry Hill going into the Witness Protection Program. That movie

884
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:21,440
was written by Nora Efron Yes, who is married to

885
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,719
Nicholas Polegi.

886
00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:26,039
Speaker 1: There you go a rut. I haven't had a rug

887
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:31,559
ala in six weeks. What's that? It's a vegetable. What's

888
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:34,760
the difference between a light bulb and a pregnant lady?

889
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:41,719
You can unscrew a light bulb? Should not be in

890
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,559
the frozen food sections. You could melt all this stuff.

891
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:52,199
My Blue Heaven and Goodfellas are same sorogers, same source material.

892
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:58,119
Married couple wrote both of them. That's fantastic. Okay, let's

893
00:45:58,119 --> 00:46:02,920
talk about the romance that occur between Karen and Karen. Okay,

894
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,559
before he gets to the crazy stature when he's just

895
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:08,920
ignoring her and then he stands her up. He doesn't

896
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,719
care about her, right, It's not until she comes in

897
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,480
confronts him in front of all of his friends and

898
00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:16,360
is screaming at me, who do you think you are?

899
00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:19,719
Henry Hill? You don't stand me up? You know what happens?

900
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,119
He gets turned on. He he does, and then he

901
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,079
starts and then he starts charming her, and then she

902
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:27,559
gets turned on, and then that's the moment you have

903
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:31,519
this awesome scene where it's a one shot right follows

904
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:34,920
them the whole time. As they bypass the line, they

905
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,079
go downstairs, they walk through the back hallway. He tips

906
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:40,400
the guy who opens the door for him twenty bucks.

907
00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:43,800
He walks through the kitchen, he walks through they are

908
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,000
bringing in a brand new table to this full restaurant

909
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:49,679
so that he has a place to sit, and Karen

910
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,320
is like, what do you do for a living? Exactly,

911
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,000
I'm in construction. Yeah, it's amazing. You don't have hands

912
00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:59,280
like you're in construction. And then the guy that they

913
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,480
talk to who who is managing the copa, which is

914
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,199
where they are, actual manager of the copa, and the

915
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,960
guy who's performing the comedy is actually Hinny Youngman. Oh yeah,

916
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,320
take my wife please. And then that's followed by the

917
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,000
scene where she gets she gets ruffed up by the

918
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:20,239
guy across the street tennis pro guy, yeah whatever he was, and.

919
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:22,199
Speaker 2: Then he goes over and just pistol whips the crap out.

920
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: Man, I love it. The guy's in the driveway, his

921
00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:27,480
own driver. He's like, you want some too, bam bam,

922
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,039
Oh my gosh, that was rough and what did it

923
00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:34,199
do turned her on? Yeah? Of note, Yes, Paulie never

924
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,840
takes phone calls, right, Yes, never takes phone calls because

925
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,480
he thinks the phones can get you in trouble. And

926
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,960
it seems silly because somebody's got to take a phone

927
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,639
call right down the message, Go over to Polly's house,

928
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,280
talk to Paulie, get Paully's information, go back to where

929
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,920
they were, call back on the phone to give the information, right,

930
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,199
because he won't talk on phones, which seems all silly

931
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,679
until the end of the movie, when talking on the

932
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,880
phone is exactly what gets him caught. Yeah, that's exactly right.

933
00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 2: Paulie played by Paul Sorvino, who for me growing up,

934
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,239
I used to watch the movie Oh God with George Burns.

935
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,320
He is the crazy Bible thump and pastor.

936
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,159
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Yeah, that's right.

937
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: And I personally have been chosen to render the benediction

938
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,079
at this year's Super.

939
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: Bowl, and he is actually Italian. But he just felt

940
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,400
like he wasn't right for this part himself. Yes, he

941
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,719
didn't know how to play the character, and he said

942
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,880
he was literally about to go out to a show.

943
00:48:26,159 --> 00:48:28,199
He glanced up at himself in the mirror, and he

944
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,599
caught a look, a look that he wasn't even trying

945
00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:33,079
to give, and he's like, ah, that's Pauli's look.

946
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: By the way, according to Rayleiota, Robert de Niro put

947
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,599
a fake severed horsehead in his trailer as an.

948
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:45,679
Speaker 1: Homage to the Godfather. That's fantastic. That's fantastic. So the

949
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:49,440
thing about these movies is that they make me hungry?

950
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,400
Am I wrong? They make me unger. I even texted

951
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,960
you while I was watching The Godfather. I'm like, I

952
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,559
want some spaghetti and you what I did? I push

953
00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:00,239
pause and I went and I made some spagh any

954
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:00,880
with meat balls.

955
00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:03,559
Speaker 2: Did you slice the garlic with the razor blade?

956
00:49:03,679 --> 00:49:06,199
Speaker 1: No? No, what I did, put the wine and the sugar,

957
00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:10,480
get out of the sausages and brown the sash because

958
00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:16,880
Italians don't brown. They fry, right, right. So you've got

959
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,760
this whole scene where Clemenza is talking about food and

960
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,960
how to cook. And then in The Goodfellows you've got

961
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,840
the scene where they're in prison. They're in prison and

962
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,400
they it's basically like a bachelor pad. Yeah, I forget.

963
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,719
I mean, it's like my college house growing up, right right,

964
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,880
and they get all the food that they want. They

965
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,960
get steaks, they get garlic that they can slice with

966
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,159
the razors, so it just melts in the butter and

967
00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:42,239
it makes me hungry. And then you've got the whole

968
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,800
scene where he's at his house, where Henry Hill's at

969
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,360
his house, and it's Hill. He keeps during the sauce,

970
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,119
he keeps hearting the sauce, he gets the meat sauce,

971
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:51,000
and he's talking about all these things, and it says,

972
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:54,440
though those things are just as important, if not more,

973
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,280
than selling the drugs and avoiding the cops.

974
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 2: I know, right, Let's talk about the helicopter at the

975
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,800
end of the movie, Okay, is that a paranoid delusion

976
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:06,119
or is that just a helicopter.

977
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,599
Speaker 1: I think he's really following him. I think it's definitely

978
00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:11,920
really following him, because you're not gonna have cops come

979
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,079
read the scene after a phone call without already having

980
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:17,960
some information and being ready with phones tapped and that

981
00:50:18,039 --> 00:50:20,400
kind of thing. So yeah, I definitely think that they

982
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,119
were tailing him.

983
00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: By the way, I just want to mention this. Mike

984
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,320
Star plays Frenchie and Goodfellas. Yeah, he also plays Frenchie

985
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,400
in another movie called The ten Million Dollar Getaway Okay,

986
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,440
which is a movie about the lift Tianza heist.

987
00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:36,119
Speaker 1: Oh okay, and he plays menthyl in dub and Dummer fellas.

988
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,880
I think we could listen to a radio lesson. Oh yes, okay, Yes,

989
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,199
I know what you're talking about. Yes, the same character.

990
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,599
He was the inside guy at the airport. Yes, yeah, okay,

991
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,719
love it, yes, love it. Ten million Dollar get Away.

992
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,800
How do you know? I had gas? Let me tell

993
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:03,000
you something. They never get an asked my pills. Okay.

994
00:51:03,559 --> 00:51:07,280
So Jimmy gets paranoid and he starts whacking everybody that's

995
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,719
involved in this ice. Yeah, true to life, True to life.

996
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,519
That's exactly what's happened. Carbone ends up in the freezer.

997
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,360
But they found a like an address book sewn into

998
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,480
his coat, and that's how they got That's how they

999
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,559
got their information. That's right, that's right. And so so

1000
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,159
the the hits that Jimmy put out, all of that's

1001
00:51:26,199 --> 00:51:29,320
true to life. And then while that's going on, Tommy's

1002
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,840
becoming a made man, right, and it's all just a

1003
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,719
setup just to lead him down the primrose path until

1004
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,840
they put a bullet in the back of his head.

1005
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,840
True to life, Jimmy gets the call, finds out that

1006
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,440
Tommy's been killed, and after he's been often one guy

1007
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:50,719
after another, it's at that point that he starts to cry. Yeah,

1008
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,639
the sociopath gets killed, and that leads you to cry.

1009
00:51:55,039 --> 00:51:57,599
But you've murdered all of your friends and your associates

1010
00:51:57,599 --> 00:52:01,119
and it's not a problem, right. Henry Hill says, It's

1011
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:02,840
the only time I ever saw Jimmy burke. Shit.

1012
00:52:03,039 --> 00:52:06,559
Speaker 2: Wow, let's talk about that. So the Luftanza thing is

1013
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:09,760
coming down. Jimmy is monitoring these people. They're spending money.

1014
00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:12,519
He gets mad at them for spending money. But in

1015
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:16,000
real life, there was one guy they call him Stacks.

1016
00:52:15,639 --> 00:52:16,119
Speaker 1: In the movie.

1017
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:19,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy was in charge of the getaway vehicle

1018
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:20,920
and he was supposed to take it to a nen

1019
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:21,519
pound yard.

1020
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: Two jobs. Replace the license tag, yes, crush the car. Yes,

1021
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,320
that's all he had to do. That's all he had

1022
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:27,599
to do.

1023
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: He went to his girlfriend's house and he fell asleep.

1024
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,559
Speaker 1: And they immediately found it.

1025
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:34,519
Speaker 2: They found the car with his prints all over the place.

1026
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:36,519
And so guess what they're hot on the trail of

1027
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:37,360
all these guys.

1028
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: Early appearance by Samuel L. Jackson. By the way of

1029
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,679
the movie, this is pre almost everything. I mean, he

1030
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,639
had been the guy, he had been the robber in

1031
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,519
coming to America, but he hadn't been in hardly anything.

1032
00:52:48,679 --> 00:52:53,159
It was just four years before pulp fiction. Wow, Samuel L.

1033
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,320
Jackson and Stacks. One quick thing I want to talk

1034
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,920
about before final judgment. Okay.

1035
00:52:57,039 --> 00:53:01,199
Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy four, The Godfather premiered on NBC over

1036
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,400
two nights. Both nights it ended at eleven PM, and

1037
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,920
in both nights, the New York City Municipal Water Authorities

1038
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,159
had some overflow problems from all the toilets flushing at

1039
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:16,440
the same time because you can't pull yourself away. That's

1040
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,800
why I'm so thankful that this movie had an intermission.

1041
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,000
Let's talk about the reception of these movies.

1042
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: Okay, all right. Obviously The Godfather was a nuclear bombs

1043
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:27,760
smashing success. Yep.

1044
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:30,079
Speaker 2: Not only that, I mean it made a ton of money,

1045
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:33,000
but it won Best Picture. Yeah, Brando won Best Actor.

1046
00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: Didn't show up. Let's talk about that, all right.

1047
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: So Marlon Brando won the Best Actor Oscar for The Godfather,

1048
00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:41,920
but instead of going to the Oscars, he set sashen

1049
00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:46,159
little feather. She went up Roger Moore. James Bond offers

1050
00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:49,719
her the statuette. She would not accept it and proceeded

1051
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,920
to have a speech about the film industry's mistreatment of

1052
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:54,840
Native Americans.

1053
00:53:55,039 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: Yep, I've watched the old reel of this, and I

1054
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,159
think she handled herself in a very diplomatic and for

1055
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,079
what she was doing, handled it very well.

1056
00:54:06,199 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: So Marlon Brando became the second actor to refuse a

1057
00:54:09,559 --> 00:54:10,920
Best Actor award.

1058
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,079
Speaker 1: Do you know the other one? No, George C. Scott.

1059
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,639
That's what I was gonna say for Patten, which was

1060
00:54:17,679 --> 00:54:19,159
also Francis Ford Coppola, right.

1061
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 2: Francis Ford Coppola wrote the screenplay, by the way, The

1062
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,320
Godfather Part two. Yeah one Best Picture, Yes, Goodfellows was

1063
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,320
nominated for Best Picture and lost to Dances with Wolves.

1064
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,519
Speaker 1: Mario Puzzo one for Best Writing, James Cohn was nominated.

1065
00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:37,239
Robert Devall was nominated. Al Pacino was nominated.

1066
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,679
Speaker 2: Al Pacino boycotted the Oscars because he was nominated for

1067
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,199
Best Supporting Actor and he felt like he should have

1068
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,039
been nominated for Best Actor because he was in he

1069
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:48,000
had more screen time than Brando.

1070
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 1: Francis Ford Coppola was nominated for Best Director. Oh my gosh,

1071
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,599
we can't not talk about the music. This is one

1072
00:54:54,599 --> 00:54:59,039
of my favorite soundtracks of all time. You got two

1073
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:02,480
key pieces of music here. One is a waltz which

1074
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:04,840
is three four time, and the other one is in

1075
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,639
four to four times. But it's got this beautiful Italian

1076
00:55:11,519 --> 00:55:14,639
I will walk around whistling these tunes at work. They

1077
00:55:14,679 --> 00:55:18,679
are beautiful and sad and sweet and take you right

1078
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,760
down to little Italy. It is. It's They're all by

1079
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,360
Nina Rota, who did ton of great movies. He composed

1080
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,920
the soundtrack for Romeo and Juliet, which is I mean,

1081
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,280
that's that's up there with like Beethoven and Bach. I mean,

1082
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,039
it's amazing stuff that he's done. And the piece of

1083
00:55:34,119 --> 00:55:36,440
music that he did in Godfather One, of course they

1084
00:55:36,519 --> 00:55:40,320
used again and Godfather Iwo. Nina Rota love it. Soundtrack

1085
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,519
for Goodfellas, it's all popular music. It's all pop music.

1086
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:47,519
Out of the head of Martin Scorsese' here's the song

1087
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:49,760
we need for this scene on the script, before we

1088
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,760
get an actor cast, before we before one photography piece

1089
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,840
is made, I am telling you these are the songs

1090
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,920
that we have, These songs that come out of Martin

1091
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,480
Scorsese's head. In the fifties, You've got rags to riches,

1092
00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:05,559
You've got life is but a dream. You've got Baby,

1093
00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:07,679
I Love You, and be on the sea. And then

1094
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,599
when they move up into the sixties and the seventies,

1095
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,480
you get Sunshine of Your Love and that awesome scene

1096
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,880
where they're panning in on Robert De Niro's face and

1097
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,760
Layla the piano music. Oh my gosh, you couldn't pick

1098
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:26,079
a more perfect song that where the switch happens in

1099
00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:29,840
Laila and it goes into that piano music. Perfect. Perfect.

1100
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,639
He knew when he was filming that scene.

1101
00:56:31,679 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 2: He's like, you know what'd be great here, Laila, except

1102
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,360
not that regular part of Leila, the piano part of Laila.

1103
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know.

1104
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:41,519
Speaker 2: He also used he wanted to use Frank Sinatra's version

1105
00:56:41,559 --> 00:56:43,400
of My Way at the end of the movie. Yeah,

1106
00:56:43,519 --> 00:56:46,000
but Sinatra wouldn't let him, so then he used Sid

1107
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:47,320
Vicious' version instead.

1108
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,599
Speaker 1: That's perfect. One quick thing.

1109
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,159
Speaker 2: So Godfather Part one one Best Picture, Godfather Part two

1110
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,679
one Best Picture. Yeah, there's only been two sequels that

1111
00:56:55,679 --> 00:57:00,400
received Best Picture, Godfather Part two and Return the King.

1112
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: I was about to say, Lord of the Rings. It's

1113
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:05,599
gotta be Yeah. Joe Peshi's acceptance speech at the Oscar

1114
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:10,039
for winning Best Actor, it's like the shortest in Oscar history. Okay,

1115
00:57:10,159 --> 00:57:15,079
he said, it's been my pleasure, thank you, and that's it. Nice.

1116
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,320
All right, on to final judgment. I thought he was

1117
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:25,400
gonna say, dances with I'm not ready yet. We've been

1118
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,119
rolling this around for weeks. This is driving me nuts.

1119
00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:31,039
This is like, this is worse than Major League versus

1120
00:57:31,039 --> 00:57:35,000
Boulder Eyes. This is this is like the hardest comparison

1121
00:57:35,079 --> 00:57:37,599
I think we have ever had. I don't really have

1122
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:41,119
a good read on you on this. Okay, you got

1123
00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:43,840
to go first. I'm still gonna I'm probably gonna change

1124
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,199
my answer free times, Okay, in the next thirty seconds.

1125
00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:46,559
All right.

1126
00:57:46,599 --> 00:57:48,639
Speaker 2: So these are some of the greatest movies of all time,

1127
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,960
reaching their fiftieth birthday. They have major cultural impact, and

1128
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:55,400
I have gone back and forth. I think I've had

1129
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,719
every movie at the number one spot at some point

1130
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,559
on my list. But here is where I come down.

1131
00:57:59,639 --> 00:58:01,239
Number one for me is.

1132
00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: The Godfather Part two.

1133
00:58:02,519 --> 00:58:05,599
Speaker 2: So many of the interesting characters from Godfather Part one

1134
00:58:05,639 --> 00:58:08,280
have been killed off. You know, we changed some people

1135
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,559
characters and the importance and stuff like that. I thought

1136
00:58:11,559 --> 00:58:15,639
the stuff in Cuba was beautiful and amazing. I felt

1137
00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:19,159
incredibly sad when Fredo got killed, but still number three

1138
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:19,519
for me.

1139
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: Number two is going to be Good Fellas. Now.

1140
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,039
Speaker 2: I love Peshi, I love de Niro, I love Leota,

1141
00:58:26,159 --> 00:58:27,079
I love Braco.

1142
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: I love what Scorsese has done with Goodfellas. I watch

1143
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:32,400
it over and over again.

1144
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,119
Speaker 2: I think the vignette nature of it makes it easier

1145
00:58:36,159 --> 00:58:37,719
to kind of jump in and jump out of.

1146
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: You've got the Luftonza stuff.

1147
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,639
Speaker 2: You've got the beatings and the Billy Batt's part and

1148
00:58:42,719 --> 00:58:44,440
all this stuff, the mafia life.

1149
00:58:44,599 --> 00:58:47,559
Speaker 1: Love Goodfellas. That brings me to number one. Overall. It's

1150
00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:49,559
the original, it's the oldest one.

1151
00:58:49,639 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: It's Marlon Brando as the godfather, the epics story of

1152
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,239
the family in crisis and the ascension of Michael to power.

1153
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: For me, that is number one. D Where are you? Okay?

1154
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,760
I can't fault you for anything that you've said, but

1155
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,440
I am completely like we don't agree on any one thing,

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not one thing, single thing. Okay. So this is where

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I fall, and this could be different tomorrow. It could

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be different in five minutes. But for right now, at

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this moment, I have to say in the number three

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spot for me is Goodfellas. It is fantastic. It is

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a unique animal like we talked about before the original Godfather.

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It made you want to be a gangster. It made

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you want it to be a part of the mafia.

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Goodfellas freaked me out, made me not want to be

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I mean, I'm Joe Peshy. Is terrifying in every respect,

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but action packed, fun filled even with all of its uncomfortableness.

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Great movie, great soundtrack, great direction by Martin Scorsese. I mean,

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talk about an icon. I'd be willing to spike the

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football on this one. This is the best Martin Scorsese

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movie that exists. Wow. I like The Departed, I like

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I like Raging Bowl, I like those movies, but this one,

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to me is his Koudi Graf. But for me, it's

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number three, which leaves us with the two Godfather movies,

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and they're both beautiful, Like every single frame is a

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piece of art. I mean, it's so beautifully photographed. And

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Coppola it is his masterpiece. Either he has done nothing

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before or since that has has amounted to what this

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thing is, but it's so so good, and it's hard

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to pick between these two because they are linked hand

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in hand. But when it comes down to it, the

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story that I find the most fascinating, the most engaging

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is the rise of Vito Corleone from immigrant in Italy

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to the Dawn. I think that movie or that storyline

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is fascinating, and the fact that it's almost all in Italian,

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it is beautifully done. And so for that reason, The

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Godfather has to finish at number two for me, and

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number one is The Godfather Part two.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm gonna put you on spot real quick. Okay,

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greatest sequel of all time is what Empire Strikes Back

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exactly exactly right? Okay, Well for once you and I agree,

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Football Empire Strength. Okay, come back next week. I'm so

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excited what we're going to talk about next week. We've

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got two albums that we're going to compare that are

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turning forty this year, and there is a song on

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this upcoming one that we're going to do.

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Speaker 1: It's Total four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been playing it for forty years and it

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hasn't got old.

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Speaker 1: It's been downloaded one point one billion times. It's incredible.

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We're going to talk about Africa.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about a song about Rosanna Arquette

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and some of the greatest session musicians of all time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're going to compare that to some guys

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who were very pretty but still managed to learn to

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play their instruments pretty well and became rock icons of

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01:01:58,159 --> 01:02:01,760
the eighties Duran Duran. Both of these albums came out

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in nineteen eighty two, and so it's only fitting that

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we match these guys up, pretty boys who just learned

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to play their instruments versus a bunch of well, for

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lack of better term, ugly guys who were the best

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musicians of the day. It's an interesting comparison Toto four

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versus Rio Duran Duran. Everybody be sure and hit the

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1214
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1215
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1216
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,599
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1218
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1219
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,039
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There you go, see you back here next week. All

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in my life, I wanted to be a podcaster. One

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love is a love, A love a love